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sour shadow
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If you tell people what you've tried it'll avoid them recommending those 😉

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I've been quite happy with my Aqara P1 and the Develco MOSZB-140

hybrid cloud
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Tuya motion sensor and sonoff ones both caused issues which is kind of unfortunate cuz I had heard fairly decent things about them and they're both very cheap.

Best to give the p1 a try as I've got the old version of the aqara motion sensor and it's definitely my most reliable sensor. Haven't heard of this develco one and a quick search doesn't seem to yield any purchase options. Is this one eu only or just hard to come by perhaps

sour shadow
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Well, Tuya are the brand most recommended to avoid

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Sonoff's end devices are also rarely well reviewed here

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I doubt the Develco is Euro only, but it's also known as Frient

hybrid cloud
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Checked under that name too, looks to be eu only or at least primarily eu. found a bunch of eu Amazon sites selling it but nothing this side of the atlantjc

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I love the aqara sensor but man that design just does not look good everywhere lol

sour shadow
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The Develco is ... not small

molten linden
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If you go through the migrate radio and reconfigure/change the port/ you will give the choice to leave network as is on radio.

fair mountain
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Yes sir. Looks like the blue LED failed.

So far, The good: Hue support responded right away. The bad: They want me to change channels on my Zigbee network, and then reset the network if that doesn't work.

lilac wharf
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does nothing
"Yep, tried both: didn't work unfortunately"

fair mountain
# lilac wharf *does nothing* "Yep, tried both: didn't work unfortunately"

As requested, I have:

  1. Changed the channel on my Zigbee network Did not resolve the issues
  2. Removed the affected Hue Calla bollards from the Zigbee network: Did not resolve the issues
  3. Re-added the Hue Calla bollards to the Zigee network: Did not resolve the issues

Additionally, I have a number of spare Hue V2 hub, which I setup and tried the two affected Bollards on: This did not resolve the issue with the blue LEDs not working.

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😉

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(made a coffee while writing the email.)

mellow geode
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Interesting, my only Hue failure was a Hue Calla too (from water inside dropping down on the LEDs). Sent their Twitter support an image and like three days later, I’ve had a new Hue Calla

mellow geode
fair mountain
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I also just pulled them from the ground, one has the gasket for the cable pulled in somehow (?)

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Also, they both seem to have water in them (idk how.. but .. I dont really want to check the other onesS)

fair mountain
north reef
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Does ZHA support grouping covers? I have a bunch of Ikea blinds that I'd like controlled as a single group. I've created the used the Group Helper, but that still requires sending a command to each blind and I find that often one blind doesn't receive the command.

open mica
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I recently ordered a ZigBee dongle and was seeing that USB extensions are a hit n miss, can you recommend me ones that work for you? Preferably Amazon links?

I have my HA installed on a VM on. Windows PC in my living room floor near the main router and apple tv and tv.

north reef
molten linden
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if they support groups

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you can still send group command manually to them

molten linden
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I've just looked into this a lot as I have a bunch of new smartwings shades, but they don't support groups.

north reef
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I got so far as creating the ZHA group, but I didn't see an entity created corresponding to that group so I kinda shrugged and came here.

molten linden
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I don't think you will get an entity for a cover group. the key is the 0x#### group ID you get.

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I'd assume ikea does groups correctly vs Smartwings who I found out is just using tuya components.

north reef
fair mountain
mellow geode
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Maybe the dirt blocked that

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Were some ants (or similar) in that dirt too?

fair mountain
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All of my lights have condensation in the upper part of the light, lol.

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I just bought 5 more last week, for the front of the house which is only gravel .. so im interested to see what happens with those.

mellow geode
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Although likely unrelated, what’s the manufacturer date on the lights? Should be something like 2150 IIRC (year + week of year)

fair mountain
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E496971
440400979021
90660

S/N: ..

mellow geode
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Bottom right, something like 21W45.4

fair mountain
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Bottom left 🙂

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21W24.3

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for both

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Wow, they were sitting on that inventory for awhile.

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Hard sell at $120, even harder sell at their new price.

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(Canuckistan dollars)

mellow geode
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I actually just found another broken Calla

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Full of water. Looks like it’s too much for condensation

mellow geode
fair mountain
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Probably not relevant to this channel 🙂 PM it is.

high turtle
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I have an Aqara smart plug that refuses to show as a router in z2m and only is shown as an end device. Any suggestions on how to get it to act as a router?

violet wave
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@mellow geode I finally made it and fixed those freaking PR, added bonus the attributes are now properly saved in the database 🙂

scarlet wharf
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hi all, i have a question, which channel is it related: i have an HPE Micro Gen10+ with unraid, VM-> HA.... and a conbee 2 stick.... on the deconz its: firmware: not connected.... is it okay ? in this state ? or do i have to do sth ? maybe firmware upgrade ? (website is down atm ?) or is there any special config needed ? its just a preperation for the productive one.... so i want to have it set up correctly .... which channel i post this question ?

mellow geode
mellow geode
grim igloo
rapid dawnBOT
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deCONZ by dresden elektronik is a software that communicates with ConBee/RaspBee Zigbee gateways and exposes Zigbee devices that are connected to the gateway. Our #zigbee-archived channel is a good place to ask about using it with Home Assistant, but they also have their own Discord server.

north reef
grim igloo
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maybe your mesh is actually the issue lol

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although reading up it's pretty disappointing you cant zigbee group them

north reef
molten linden
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shouldn't be a big deal

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as long as things work

grim igloo
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step 0 is confirm you're using a usb extension cable to get away from usb interference

grim igloo
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i'd say that falls under not working lol

molten linden
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I meant in relation to the map.

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the group stuff is trickier

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it seems both zha and z2m just assume when you add things with a group cluster to a group that it works

north reef
molten linden
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@north reef one thing you can try

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is try to remove one the shades from group

north reef
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I've got the coordinator and 3 routers placed "strategically" so they're not too far away from the stick

molten linden
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if it works, they do likely support groups

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if they don't remove then likely not

grim igloo
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ah it's a pretty small mesh?

molten linden
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my smartwings add to group in ZHA but I'm not able to remove them.

north reef
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Quite small I think, umm, a coordinator, 3 routers, 35 devices

molten linden
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only by sniffing did I see the shades were responding with cluster command not supported

north reef
north reef
molten linden
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let me dig something up

north reef
molten linden
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somewhere I have the command to just tell the group to move

north reef
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Let me simplify the issue by having a single blind in the grroup

molten linden
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try 2, groups of 1 is not much use

grim igloo
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i thought zha wouldnt even create a new entity for a single device in a group

molten linden
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I have a large supply of coordinators, and tend to buy a lot of zigbee stuff so I have a dedicate nordic stick I use for sniffing with wireshark

north reef
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Now that I think about it, you're right, when I tried to add all 6 to the group, in the first go only 4 got added. Said to myself, "eh, that was odd, maybe I misclicked". I added the other two afterwards and it was correct. So it seems like there might be some sorta acknowledgement from the group members that they belong

molten linden
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they are sleepy as they are battery powered end devices so you might need to wake them

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though they should be better than a sensor since they do have to listen for commands

north reef
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uggg, one's super asleep as it missed 4 calls to remove it from the group

grim igloo
molten linden
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here's the command that should open them

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north reef
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My wife unplugged one of the routers.........

north reef
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When I was looking at the mesh, I saw one was offline

molten linden
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group is your number for your group,

north reef
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do I need to represent it in hex 0x0002 or will decimal do fine?

molten linden
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command is 1 to go up and 2 to go down.

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you can you 2

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for the group

north reef
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Ok let me push that command

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What does cluster ID mean in the context of sending that group command?

molten linden
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cluster ID is the window covering cluster

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here is the yaml version

north reef
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Got it, I included it, were there any args, as the screenshot was a bit cut

molten linden
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sigh copy isn't working lol

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no args

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service: zha.issue_zigbee_group_command
date:
  cluster_type: in
  cluster_id: 258
  group: 2
  command: 1```
north reef
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Perfect, thanks

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Didn't seem to work, command id 1 will open, command id 2 closes correct?

molten linden
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yeah:

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just double checking

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north reef
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Ok final note before I throw in the towel: I have the HUB EZSP combo stick zwave and zigbee doodad

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It's an older model

molten linden
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shouldn't matter

north reef
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Ok, let me use command 0

grim igloo
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still an inferior coordinator to something like cc2652p tho...

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and as far as zwave that stick is a piece of shit

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i thought the general consensus was it was shit with zigbee as well

molten linden
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it works fine for a lot of people

sour shadow
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It's not as bad as the CC2531

molten linden
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I mean I'll happily sell a newer one 😂

north reef
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I mean I've been having some trouble with it, e.g. sending an open / close command to 6 blinds sometimes misses one of them, but it hasn't been so bad

grim igloo
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ya prob not a bad idea to give tube some money for one of his PoE coordinators

molten linden
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mine miss command too

north reef
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before I committed to Zigbee, I have a single ZWave reed switch to detect when someone rings my doorbell and that's been super solid so I mean

grim igloo
molten linden
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sending 5 or 6 commands is tough it's why groups exist sigh

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either work with zha

north reef
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That's why I'm here right, to group commands to avoid sending 6 individual ones 🙂

grim igloo
molten linden
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multipan is SiLabs specific

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theoretically could work with all

grim igloo
north reef
grim igloo
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is this an esp32 limitation or?

molten linden
molten linden
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some times all 5 open other times just 3, and I follow up again and they get it. so somewhere commends are dropping I think it's the mesh.

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and the nature of sending 5 unicast command sequentially

grim igloo
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where's puddly and julien when we need them -.-

north reef
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I didn't research Zigbee network best practices before I dove in. I've got wifi all over the place, no idea what channel my network is running on, so some blame on me for jumping in

grim igloo
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you'd have to re-pair all your shit if you changed channels tho

molten linden
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stepping away. been pasting a panel of pcbs and am now picking and placing them

north reef
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I'll migrate my 2.4 networks over and do it right some weekend

north reef
north reef
molten linden
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zigpy-cli

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can save you from re-paring everything

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still will need to do some.

grim igloo
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howso?

molten linden
grim igloo
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He said he only has 3 routers tho isn’t it common to not work on battery devices?

molten linden
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some might

grim igloo
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I don’t like those odds lol

molten linden
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Ah better than nothing

grim igloo
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Fancy

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Did you diy a pick and place?

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Does that mean prices go down since man hours per board are lower smile

molten linden
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Lumen PnP semi-assembled

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getting it working and keeping it working takes a good bit of time. once I get feeders for everything we'll see.

grim igloo
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sweet

molten linden
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been fighting with 2 feeders for a good part of the afternoon though so 🤷🏼‍♂️ lol.

grim igloo
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nature of the beast

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it's the simple stuff that takes the longest sometimes lol

molten linden
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Yup though feeders are far from simple.

grim igloo
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Not bad

molten linden
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the cc2652 modules are the hardest to dial in.

grim igloo
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Just due to constraints on the board?

molten linden
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Footprint center is based on the main parallel pads on either side. The 2 upper pads by the antenna connector can through off the vision

high turtle
mellow geode
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What firmware are they running?

high turtle
mellow geode
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Can you check the Zigbee model ID? (Should be something starting with lumi.)

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Should work fine with ZHA. Try to reconfigure the device through the UI. As soon as you start the reconfiguration, press some buttons on the dimmer, so it wakes up

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It didn’t wake up then. Try to put a fresh battery in it and just re-pair it (by pressing the button on the inside fast four times)

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Somewhat, that’s for binding it to other devices. The dialog is for binding to the coordinator (which needs to work fine)

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I‘m pretty sure I have some dimmers on that same firmware version that work just fine (with ZHA)

high turtle
tardy path
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Hi everyone, new to Zigbee, I have a Z-Wave controller working already in this same setup. Just picked up a Sonoff ZBDongle-E and a bunch of other Sonoff stuff (buttons, temp sensors, window sensors). I've hooked it all to to HA no problem, connected devices, no problem. Some of the devices won't stay connected for more than a few minutes. I have 2 different temp sensors (different models) connected them, put them in the same place, came back today and one is connected and one is not. Any idea why? Or even what I should look at?

grim igloo
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You’re using zha right?

tardy path
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No, just the controller. But it's only 5 feet away from where i left the temp sensors with nothing in between them. And yeah ZHA (I think)....

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Yeah just checked, ZHA

hybrid cloud
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I can say sonoff ZigBee devices aren't great in my experience but without seeing any error messages you're running into it's nigh impossible to know what your issue is

dire crag
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does a zigbee hub require a wifi connection

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and what options do I have if I want zigbee devices in mutiple different buildings that's sperate from the building with the home assistant computer in it but still on the same wired network

vivid sapphire
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I'm getting the following Warning in my HA Core logs:

Logger: zigpy_deconz.api
Source: runner.py:179
    No response to 'Command.aps_data_indication' command with seq id '0x50'

I had 50 or so before a reboot, and immediately got a couple more following an update to 2023.3.6. Does anyone have any idea what this might mean?

grim igloo
dire crag
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what is a condinator

grim igloo
dire crag
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do you have a link to a poe condinator

grim igloo
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it's in that list

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you no clicky?

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first you decide if you want to use ZHA or Z2M (zigbee2mqtt) then you pick a coordinator because some are based on a chipset that doesnt work well with z2m

vivid sapphire
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Looking at the diagnostics file it looks like ZHA is set up to use the by-id already. I don't see the /dev/ttyACM1, but do see the following:

      "data": {
        "radio_type": "deconz",
        "device": {
          "path": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_ConBee_II_DE2468765-if00"
        }
grim igloo
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yea zha has gotten pretty smart about all that stuff

slate storm
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heyo - a bit confused about the scope of "skyconnect". i have a sonoff zigbee dongle that i've already set-up with zigbee2mqtt.

will any zigbee hardware potentially be able to support thread?

if not i'll grab the skyconnect hardware itself. but if so that will prevent some landfill 🙂

sour shadow
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heyo a bit confused about the scope of

copper bloom
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hello, i have a problem with a sonoff usb 3.0 and zigbee2mqtt and motion sensors. After about 15 minutes (but I'm not sure about the time) the sensor no longer provides any information, while for the first 15 minutes all alerts are ok. I do not understand why?

placid zinc
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Is it normal behaviour that z2m crashes or otherwise stops running when the zigbee coordinator goes offline?

ashen bluff
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Yes

placid zinc
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Thanks! Is there any way to get it to restart when it gets back online, or alternatively keep trying for longer?

ashen bluff
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I don't think I've seen any options pertaining to that. Assuming you run this as addon, watchdog "should" restart it but I'd have to test it myself

placid zinc
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Yes, I'm running it as an addon. The option to restart the addon if it crashes is turned on, but apparently doesn't work (well enough) in this scenario

ashen bluff
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Hmm yeah I can reproduce this. It looks like this when the stick is unplugged

zigbee2mqtt  | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-03-24 16:09:04: Adapter disconnected, stopping
zigbee2mqtt  | Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-03-24 16:09:04: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload '{"state":"offline"}'
zigbee2mqtt  | Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-03-24 16:09:04: Disconnecting from MQTT server
zigbee2mqtt  | Zigbee2MQTT:info  2023-03-24 16:09:04: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...
zigbee2mqtt  | Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-03-24 16:09:04: Failed to stop Zigbee2MQTT
root-mqtt-1  | 1679670544: Client mqttjs_7a04d1e1 disconnected.
zigbee2mqtt exited with code 1

but the container is not restarted 🤷

placid zinc
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So is this a bug or a feature? 😅

ashen bluff
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It restarts if I SIGTERM the tini or node index.js process/thread. No idea what's going on

crisp pewter
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But I guess that's only Z2M right

austere patio
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No, it works with both ZHA and Z2M. Better with ZHA, since support for that stick is still experimental/beta in Z2M.

ashen bluff
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It works with both but the ezsp driver that Z2M uses for the E version of that stick is experimental

crisp pewter
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Ahh, is there one that you guys would recommend?

ashen bluff
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I'd use something CC2652 based which should be supported well for both, otherwise use what the software of your choice recommends
I use Z2M with the P version myself but it's best to make your own experiences

grim igloo
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or ask in the z2m discord and see what they say

ashen bluff
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I have to troubleshoot this a bit more first and get my facts straight. I'd rather not make a fool out of myself.
The main developer of Z2M isn't active there. You can do that as well though. It should be rather easy to reproduce for koen

grim igloo
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I’ve never actually joined cuz I just do basic stuff and Ive learned what I need to so far here

crisp pewter
ashen bluff
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No. They look very similar (I believe the E is shorter) but the insides are different

crisp pewter
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Ahh okay. Thanks a lot! I will try that one

ashen bluff
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Before buying, think about if you would benefit from a POE/ethernet based one. I don't know how this works with ZHA though due to lack of experience with it

grim igloo
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It works fine

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Tube himself uses zha with his coordinators

crisp pewter
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Sorry for the noob question but why would I need POE? Don't I just plug it into my NAS which already has an ethernet connection?

grim igloo
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Mostly to put it in a central location

crisp pewter
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Ah that makes sense..

grim igloo
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But also to escape interference such as usb 3.x, a metal rack, etc

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It’s what all the cool kids do

crisp pewter
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So instead of a dongle I'd get a hub and play it on the first floor so that it can reach maybe the ground floor and second floor?

grim igloo
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No hub

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PoE coordinator

ashen bluff
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When using USB you should use an extension cable to avoid the mentioned interference.
Here's a demo from HA's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHqZhNcFEvA
For multiple floors you'll most likely need a few routers. I'd recommend buying somethig useful that does more than just route like a plug

crisp pewter
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Wow that makes a lot of difference..

grim igloo
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Word

crisp pewter
ashen bluff
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Most but not all permanently (as in, not battery) powered devices do

grim igloo
molten linden
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just as a way to ID when they came out.

grim igloo
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Look at that customer service response time @crisp pewter ^ his PoE coordinators are popular here

crisp pewter
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Definitely nice

grim igloo
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Chyna

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I’m not an EE I can’t speak to that tbh

molten linden
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I'll answer your questions. lol

crisp pewter
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Thanks

molten linden
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those are knock off of zigstar

crisp pewter
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Thank you guys for the explanation. I'm actually thinking of still going for the dongle as it comes with an extension cable and I have an idea of where to place it

still portal
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Hey guys, I am trying to make an automation in my HASS to switch on a Blitzwolf zigbee plug which I have in my Zigbee2MQTT with a simple time trigger but nothing happens ??! I am new to Zigbee so am I doing something wrong or anything special needs to be considered ?

sour shadow
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Can you control the plug manually?

still portal
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Yes I can, but when the Scene get triggered nothing happens in reality 🙂

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My intentions are to start the plug which is connected to my humidor when the humidity is above 72% which is measured by a xiaomi temp&humidity sensor via ESPHome

sour shadow
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Then check the trace of your automation

still portal
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Thanks sorry for the spam in the wrong section 🙂

crisp pewter
fair mountain
crisp pewter
fair mountain
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(Personally I'd just use an RPi with ser2net, a regular USB coordinator and MicroUSB PoE.)

naive summit
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Question about the Ecobee 4. My understanding is that the sensors it uses are zigbee. Does anyone use these and/or the thermostat itself using Z2M, or do y’all just use it on wifi.

carmine hamlet
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that's not Zigbee

grim igloo
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Not to mention the ecobee itself is either Wi-Fi or HomeKit not zigbee

fair mountain
grim igloo
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As far as connecting to hass, it’s Wi-Fi OR HomeKit since it can be paired directly to hass with HomeKit controller integration

fair mountain
last rain
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Sorry if this is a really dumb question.. but in the Visualisation tab it shows the connection between my SkyConnect and my Yale Zigbee module is "254" is this good or bad? 🙂

deep zinc
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what color is the line?

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I don't remember the numbers but green is good, yellow is not as good, red is bad, white/gray is no connection

naive summit
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254 should be good I think.

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Iirc it’s a number between 0 and 255.

last ruin
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I added this to my z2m config and it worked fine for months. After latest release (I think) my cover buttons won't stop the cover on second press of 'open' button. It will however stop the cover on second press of 'close' button. Without this in the z2m config the automation for the open-close button works fine. Any ideas? homeassistant: cover: position_closed: 0 position_open: 85 payload_open: '{ "position": "85" }' set_position_template: '{ "position": {{ 85 if position > 85 else position }} }'
Automation for the buttons here: https://pastebin.com/Dx5qPZBY

empty vine
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I've recently switched from ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT. During the migration I had to remove and re-pair all the devices. It went fine. Z2M is working. The problem I have is that I've lost the historic data for the sensors during the migration. I think the values might still be somewhere in the database(?). How can I reassign the old sensor data to their new sensor data?

lilac wharf
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Rename the new entities to what they were before @empty vine

lunar lotus
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Good afternoon Automaters, I've got 3 Tuya mmWave presence sensors that all stopped reporting presence. They still report link quality and lux just fine. But no matter what I do, presence is false. Has anybody seen this issue? I'm not finding anything on the 'net...

mellow geode
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ZHA or Z2M?

glad plume
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What is the best Smoke & Gas sensor on the market? What I need is Home Assistant connection. It can be Z2M or WiFi. I want to disable sound alarm from HA when I want. Should detect smoke and gas leakage. Few year with 1 battery. Thanks guys. Would help me a lot.

finite canyon
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Aqara: better to have stand alone hub m1. Or sonoff dongle plugged into nas as hub?

sour shadow
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Sonoff dongle, on a USB extension cable

finite canyon
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Ty

finite canyon
sour shadow
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Sure, as long as the Z-Wave and Zigbee sticks are on extension cables

finite canyon
rapid dawnBOT
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@finite canyon When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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Using Reply to reply to the message immediately before yours is an odd behaviour I've never understood

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And yes, that's exactly what I'm saying

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Read the pins about USB interference

finite canyon
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I don't use discord a lot.. yeah kinda new

finite canyon
sour shadow
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Please @finite canyon

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Stop leaving the damn notification pings on @finite canyon

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It get bloody annoying

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Or don't, and I'll simply stop answer you ever again

finite canyon
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Alright, I will stop talking

sour shadow
finite canyon
sour shadow
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And remember to do it every time

finite canyon
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Oh... Ok sure will do

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Ty for help

gleaming jay
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@molten linden is it possible to add sensors like temperature or pir to your zigbee poe router?

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trying to cut down on battery powered stuff

lunar lotus
violet dagger
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@molten linden grrrr, why are you not giving SKU or model numbers to your devices

molten linden
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I’ve tried to standardize it with reorg of things on GitHub with pics of devices on main page.

molten linden
violet dagger
tardy kiln
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I'm looking to make some DIY zigbee environmental sensors (using some dev board or DIY PCB later down the road) to drive a grow tent ecosystem (pumps, soil moisture, humidity, and temp to name a few). I'm looking for some preliminary information to help me avoid pitfalls. Any known descent documentation on how the integration with zigbee - mqtt - home assistant is done? I do realize that my inquiry about integration may not be something to worry about as I'll be figuring this all out as I go, but I don't want to start building something only to find out a roadblock was waiting for me to collide with.

molten linden
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PTVO or look at some of the existing diy products based on Nordic sdk

near echo
neon orbit
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Goodday everybodoy, I was told to go into this chat so y'all can tell me that a phillips hue bridge for zigbee sucks and can advice me a better one? The only reason why I was going for the Hue as a Zigbee bridge is because I already had it for my philips hue bulbs. Right now I am still preparing my whole Home Assistant setup but I know I am going to use Zigbee over Z-Wave.

any recommendations on a better bridge? if need be a specific zigbee protocol?

sour shadow
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First pick between ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

rapid dawnBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

neon orbit
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Thanks for the reaction, ill look into the differences between zha and ZIgbee2MQTT 🙂 For now it seems Zha is more likely.

last ruin
neon orbit
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I take it back MQTT seems a lot more versatile with amount of device compatibility and multiple devices, functionality and update of air. Zha seems to be easier to setup than MQTT but after it's setup MQTT is better.

sour shadow
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Then buy a CC2652 based Zigbee stick/coordinator

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

neon orbit
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Will do boss 🫡

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Thanks for the help.

idle iris
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Hi there, I'm using the Ikea TRÅDFRI motionsensore with zigbee2mqtt in my HA. Is there a setting in Z2M that allows me to set the refresh? I notice that the sensor does not always trigger in real time.

sour shadow
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Short answer, no - not even Z2M can change that

idle iris
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Does anyone know the refresh timer of the sensor?

finite canyon
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Hi guys, I am having trouble setting up my ZigBee controller, I have sonoff USB dongle, model E I think.

Let me know how I can post logs here

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

finite canyon
finite canyon
finite canyon
left mist
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I have switched hardware and restore a full backup to the system. However IM having problems with my conbee2 stick. HA sees it but it wont seem to connect. I have verified the dev path but just refuses.

zealous compass
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Perhaps this is the better channel. I am trying to hide deconz behind a proxy but it keeps failing...

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Has anyone been able to use it correctly ..

sour shadow
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People can better help you if you give details, errors etc

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Alternatively try the deCONZ discord

finite canyon
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Hey guys, how do I add devices to my ZHA sonoff dongle 3.0? I have added integration but it's not finding my aqara motion sensor. What do I have to do?

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Ok NVM... It somehow added after I removed battery and plugged it back in

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Ty all

rose scroll
zealous compass
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Whats the favitorit? ZSH or Deconz?

sour shadow
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT, not deCONZ

rose scroll
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Zigbee2MQTT for me

finite canyon
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Hi everyone,
My Aqara motion sensor is not detecting anything.
I am not sure problem is on ZigBee or interference side or Aqara.

  1. When I try to add using ZHA, motion sensor, it would not detect. After some time it works.
  2. Once added to ZHA, I press identify button, nothing happens, it would not detect anything and light on MS would not turn on.
  3. I have set automation script that when motion is deducted, turn on light, but I don't see any log of any motion being detected.

So what could be there issue and where do I start

zealous compass
quartz cipher
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Does anyone know how long you can run battery powered devices until you need to change the battery? Can you literally drain it close to 1% or does it start to get unreliable because of voltage drop aroudn 15% or something? Not sure what the percentage actually is representing. Asking specifically for aquara devices if that matters.

near echo
last rain
sour shadow
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Why not deCONZ

stuck brook
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Hello everyone,
I can't install the drivers on my conbee2
the conbee key is not recognized as a "usb key"
I see the key in device managers on Win11 in other device
I tried to install the software by updating the conbee and selecting the directory ConBee_II_USB_Driver_V1_00
the result says it was able to find the drivers but there was an error.
GCFFlasher_V3_17 et GCFFlasher_V3_09 does not detect any key.
I plugged my conbee2 into an HP3001PR USB port extender into a USB2.0 PORT
in property of my conbee: No driver is installed for this device.
Device settings for USB(...) were not migrated from the previous OS installation due to partial or ambiguous device matching. Thank you for your help.

finite canyon
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Hi everyone,
My Aqara motion sensors are not working. I have added 2 motion sensor and both are acting same where the none of the sensors works. Also, after few hours both devices went offline and even after reloading Zha, I can't get them back online

austere patio
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What coordinator are you using?

sour shadow
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Also what Zigbee routers do you have, if any

finite canyon
finite canyon
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Why alert? Do I need ZigBee router?

carmine hamlet
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Zigbee is a mesh network

grim igloo
fervent briar
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Hi everyone! I have 8 Tradfri bulbs, connected to home assistant core with a conbee 2 zigbee usb stick. 6 are correctly recognized as white/warm white lamps. 2 however, are recognized as color bulbs (they show the color wheel etc). Can I change these to white/warm white?
All lamps report to HA as "TRADFRIbulbGU10WS345lm"

  • I use the ConBee II (Zigbee Home Automation) integration (the red ball with a "Z" in it)
  • all lamps have the same firmware
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I've tried looking around in configuration.yaml, but I can't find any device definitions in that file

finite canyon
grim igloo
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most people use light bulbs, light switches, smart plugs, etc to expand their mesh since those should be repeaters

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a coordinator is required regardless

sour shadow
grim igloo
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a lot of us use aqara sensors because they're cheap and work well, so it's not the fault of your sensors

sour shadow
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USB extension cable
Avoid WiFi channels (which are numbered differently)
Use enough (Zigbee) routers
Replace batteries in end devices
Pair in place

finite canyon
finite canyon
grim igloo
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then you're pairing wrong or something

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sometimes they ship with shit batteries

finite canyon
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I see, ok let me try replacing batteries and try.. if that doesn't work within 5-10 feet.. I am not sure

sour shadow
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You checked for WiFi interference?

hybrid cloud
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does anyone know any mmwave sensors other than the fp1 that are around its price point (or cheaper) and reliable

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i know tuya has an mmwave sensor, not sure if that one has a good trak record

finite canyon
last ruin
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Is this a z2m bug or HA bug? Repeating cover.open_cover doesn't stop cover movement if minimum position is set in Z2M config. If I repeat pressing Open in z2m UI it will stop the movement. But obviously opening the cover through that UI will ignore that min position in z2m config.

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Not sure where to report the issue 🙂

austere patio
last ruin
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Oh, just found the z2m discord server. I'll ask there.

fervent briar
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Sure @austere patio : which info do you need exactly?

austere patio
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Both JSON files

fervent briar
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Ok, where can I find those? Sorry, total beginner on this stuff

austere patio
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If you navigate to the device page, there's a "Download diagnostics" button right above the "Remove" button. It'll download a JSON file after you click it.

fervent briar
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Oh, I found it, thx

mellow geode
fervent briar
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Somehow the problem fixed itself!

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Yesterday I was seeing color wheels

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And now those 2 also report as white/warm white

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wtf 🙂

mellow geode
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I guess you restarted HA in the mean time?

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It’ll (re-)initialize the responsible attribute(s) and then create the entity properly

fervent briar
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20:19:09 up 16 days, 9:22, 1 user, load average: 0.42, 0.34, 0.29

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No... but I reloaded the yaml yesterday from the GUI

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That might be it?

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Would you guys recommend enabling OTA updates for tradfri through ZHA?

rugged quarry
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Anyone having the Aqara Roller Shade E1 here. Can't get them to work with a Skyconnect. They are getting recognized, but they don't do anything. Before I was running ZHA on Conbee II and was working fine. They also work on Z2M. Any ideas?

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When I try reconfiguring the OnOff is failing.

golden vessel
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Any recommendations on good in-wall (behind switch) zigbee relay modules? They must be small like shellys

granite aspen
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You know how you spend forever getting something figured out and think you'll never forget how to work something in your life? Then you forget totally how you can figured your zigbee network even though you have a bunch of devices working on it. My logs have errors about the hardware and I cannot figure out how to even configure it. Under system hardware, I see my Dresden adapter. I'm running on unraid and I'm wondering if showing up in a different port or something.

Under settings devices, I have Conbee II with errors, but nothing that lets me see the configuration of the device. What screen let's me set the USB port?

peak vapor
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do zigbee router devices like to dangle off the coordinator directly only or something

grim igloo
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There is a maximum number of next hops I believe

peak vapor
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ah, I was just curious since it seems like my map is showing that even though there seems to be paths that are higher in quality

grim igloo
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Zha or z2m and which coordinator?

peak vapor
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z2m and zbdongle-p

grim igloo
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You can re pair and see if devices get a bigger LQI but “if it works it works” is usually a popular phrase around here

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Iirc each device is different as far as when it gets new routes without touching it

granite aspen
grim igloo
peak vapor
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I guess I could leave the devices alone and unless I have issues just forget about it

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ah interesting

grim igloo
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Also

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With sonoff p dongle and z2m the Lqi from one device to the next isn’t taking into account the next hops

peak vapor
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oh I see

grim igloo
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So like if you have a bulb routing to another bulb routing to another bulb then to coordinator the bulbs with other bulbs as parents might show a really strong LQI

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But if there’s a long distance between the coordinator and the first router then you might get delays on those bulbs at the end of the chain

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I do wish we could do like a ‘full network heal’ like zwave has to force all devices to get the best routes

peak vapor
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I hear some of these aqara temp sensors I have are sticky too

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so they just stay with what ever you paired them with

grim igloo
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It’s suggested to build out your mesh with routers first then add your end devices (battery powered) last

peak vapor
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oh yup that's what I did

grim igloo
peak vapor
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I added my mains powered router stuff first

grim igloo
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And it’s not 100%

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I’m theory the aqara cheap sensors can get new routes.. they just usually don’t

peak vapor
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ah they're older temp sensors so dunno

grim igloo
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When you added them did you pair to a specific router?

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That’s the best way to do it

peak vapor
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doesn't really matter to me if they don't drop out I suppose

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ah okay

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though one of them seems to be draining in battery a lot faster than the others

grim igloo
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In z2m where you click permit join all

peak vapor
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yup the drop down

grim igloo
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There’s a drop-down to

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Ya ok

peak vapor
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I paired it to physically nearby routers

grim igloo
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And sometimes they lie about their battery

peak vapor
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ah yeah, I replaced em all with the same ones. could be lying

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we'll just see how long until it drops out entirely

grim igloo
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Yea

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Nothing really to worry about

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Now go buy an aqara cube to play with

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They’re fun

peak vapor
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More like I see numbers and charts and they make me curious lol

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I have a few Ikea styrbar and symfonisk gen 2 on my desk unopened

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No need to roll the dice yet lol

grim igloo
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Damn ikea and their naming schemes

peak vapor
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Uhh a couple remotes with plenty of buttons lol

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I think the symfonisk gen 2 is quite new though, haven't seen a blueprint for it yet.. well z2m support isn't in the rel branch yet either

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was waiting to set those up last. the styrbar is a bit of a headache already tbh

grim igloo
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i use a blueprint with my cubes

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and with my hue remotes

peak vapor
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I wanted to do binding but also there's the firmware thing

grim igloo
granite aspen
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hey where do you set your USB dongle device path for ZHA in home assistant? I dont have an addon and under devices I dont see any options. I know I set it at some point but now I can't see it anywhere?

grim igloo
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i printed these little holders for the cubes

peak vapor
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Nice holder

grim igloo
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i think that might be the only way austin

grim igloo
granite aspen
grim igloo
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ugh discord bug isnt zooming up all the way

granite aspen
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who posted or give me a keyword and i'll find it?

grim igloo
# 
[8:49 PM]tube: note this process does stop zha, closing out of it at any point without making changes will restart it as is.
[8:50 PM]tube: to just see what it is, you can download the diagnostics file and look in there.```
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tube

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it's on page 3 searching from:tube on my discord search

grim igloo
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settings -> system -> hardware -> all hardware -> scroll down til you see it

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well that's where you see what the disk/by-id is

granite aspen
# grim igloo well that's where you see what the disk/by-id is

Yes but can't figure out why it's not working. It shows up in hardware and it has correct path under migrate radio. Everything was fine and then one day it wasn't. I run on a VM unRAID and confirmed the device was connected to home assistant. I've rebooted the VM a few times and also HA but errors out when a reboot or reload the device integration.

grim igloo
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is it plugged into a usb port on the mobo or a pcie card passed thru to the vm?

granite aspen
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USB port on case. Not direct to mobo

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I should go check the hardware

grim igloo
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maybe it doesnt support hot swap

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you rebooted the unraid server and still no dice right?

granite aspen
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Yes, but tried that a few days ago. I think. Probably need to do it all over again

grim igloo
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sorry i use z2m not sure what else to suggest

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if you can see the stick in haos then zha should do the rest i think

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Your error is about it not seeing the stick but I’m still curious- is your conbee on a usb extension cable?

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I know zha or z2m won’t start if the stick has too much interference and the conbee are the most affected of any coordinator with interference

peak vapor
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anyone know if you're able to bind two ikea tradfri remotes to the same group of lights?

near echo
peak vapor
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I know but the binding part was more like "if HA is down"

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but then again maybe I have more problems if it's down

near echo
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But tradfri remote are so versatile and you might want to do more with those. Like use the central button to toggle between fan and light...just saying

peak vapor
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I don't suppose you can bind individual buttons

near echo
peak vapor
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what do you mean as an alternative? (but yes using z2m)

near echo
peak vapor
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I've managed to bind and unbind successfully on the one remote I was playing with

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but I agree in general that having more flexibility using the buttons is nice. I have a few remotes to play with though heh

near echo
peak vapor
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ah I see, just have it sit and wait in standby

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atm Z2M is on the same machine as HA (as an addon actually) so if HA is down likely the machine is in trouble

near echo
near echo
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But if MQTT is down, there is a big problem as nowadays MQTT is generally of information highway between apps (unless API is used for tight coupling). Hence, lot of people i know are shifting to EMQX which has cluster concept

peak vapor
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redundancy is good in concept. I think I tend to veer towards just having a simple back up plan. maybe I should just get a flash light lmao

near echo
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For lights and other essential devices always have a hard switch, use that. Automation is supposed to make it easier not leave you stranded when it fails

peak vapor
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agree

red ermine
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is there any way to see in detail what caused a device to turn on? in the log i just see it was turned on, but not what caused it to turn on...

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and it shouldnt, i only have one automation for it, to turn off at 6 in the morning, but no automation to turn on...

raven jewel
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If the logbook doesn't say what turned it on then HA doesn't know

inland agate
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that usually means it was turned on outside of HA. depending on the device, that means a button press or some other firmware instruction

red ermine
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it has no physical button, so it shouldnt... and it started about 2 days ago, had this lamp for about 1 and a half year now

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and if ZHA hasnt got an update which broke things, idk what else to look at

inland agate
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what device are we talking about? maybe its firmware was updated and the new version turns on the device (whatever that means) at a specific time or after the device is power-cycled

red ermine
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it does it pretty sporadic, sometimes after 20 minutes, sometimes after 2 hours... its a simple dimmable Bi-LED bulb. Since its only connected through ZHA idk why it should update its firmware. The only thing that changed in the last week was going from a Sonoff Bridge to a ConBee II as my coordinator

inland agate
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Is the bulb bound to another Zigbee device that's outside of ZHA? like a remote control or a motion sensor or anything like that?

red ermine
inland agate
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Actually, I don't even think they need to be outside of ZHA 🤔

red ermine
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i dont have the OTA updates enabled in my Config.yaml

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normally i should be able to see what is triggering a device. i can see when i manually turn it on or off, i can see when the automation triggers in the morning, but there - nothing

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the only change like i said is a coordinator swap... could that interfere with something?

inland agate
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wait, so you don't see THAT it was turned on or you don't see WHY/BY WHOM it was turned on?

red ermine
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i see THAT it turned on... but NOT what caused it

inland agate
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i can see when i manually turn it on or off
doesn't that look the same?

red ermine
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sent you a screenshot ^^

inland agate
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ok, so... judging by what you said and the screenshot you sent, you can see that you've manually turned it on or off from the HA interface, not using any physical interface

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in that case, like I said and like @raven jewel said, the event for turning the bulb on comes from outside HA. only the state change reaches HA, therefore it can't tell you anything else, as it lacks the info

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I don't know if the coordinator change is responsible for that, but it sounds like a likely culprit, since you said that it used to show what turned the light on and stopped doing so after the coordinator change

red ermine
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well thats weird... since HomeAssistant is the only way to controll it (except pulling the plug) there shouldnt be something outside ZHA turning it on

red ermine
inland agate
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if you've got tons of disk space and time, turn on the ZHA debug logs until the lamp turns on "by itself", then look in the logs for what's causing it

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but keep in mind that you don't know what's in the firmware. you don't know that it doesn't toggle the state for reasons neither you nor I understand

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it would be simpler to ask for help from owners of your exact device, but you haven't mentioned what that is

red ermine
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its a Classic B40 TW - LIGHTIFY by OSRAM

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but the allmighty lord google cant find any meaningful information

inland agate
red ermine
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seems like i need to search in simpler terms if you pulled this out in seconds...

hard swift
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I have successfully added a zigbee switch to Hass. But when I toggle any switch on Hass, it immediately toggles all switches. I toggle it directly on the switch with no problems like the toggle on Hass

dusk jungle
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Hi, does anyone know how i can add the network visualization map to my dashboard? im using zha

grim igloo
mighty river
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Is there any way I can figure out why ZigBee says it's turning my socket on & off but it doesn't actually fit power

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Cut power

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Or is that an issue with the device itself

sour shadow
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That's an issue with the communication with the device

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Could be interference, could be a weak connection (low signal strength)

dusk jungle
grim igloo
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I know

fallow tide
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afternoon all. Trying to get zigbee2mqtt to work with my new skyconnect. i know its not fully supported and i already have zigbee working with ZHA on another stick. i wanted to see if i could just get z2m working with the skyconnect along side my zha on my other stick. i have followed smarthomejunkie and mostlychris's video as they got it to work but my z2m will just not start

violet wave
mellow geode
high turtle
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Is there a way to use an Aqara U.S. based smart plug to dim a lamp? I am switching the smart plug from a zwave plug which was able to accomplish this to the Aqara plug and so far am not having luck figuring out how to accomplish this

molten linden
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there are very few dimming zigbee plugs

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the only one off the top of my head was a GE/Jasco or enbrighten one.

high turtle
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That is a huge bummer. I figured it would just work like the zwave I had. Thank you for the clarification

jolly geode
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Can I flash Dirigera Firmware to an Ikea Tradfri Device (Like Motion Sensor) and still use it with Z2M like before?

vivid sapphire
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I'm exploring moving HA to an SSD and understand that I can Restore from previous backup at onboarding, but this does not restore Zwave, which I know how to do also from a previous backup. My remaining question is about my ZHA instance. I know how to download a backup of my ZHA configuration, but what is the process for restoring that to a fresh install?

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Mine is your standard "easy" HAOS installation.

open mica
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Just wondering if it's possible to run 2 dongles ZigBee coordinator on a PC running HA... 1st dongle will be ZHA and 2nd dongle will Z2M.

Doing the homework it seems the Z2M is compatible with more products and that ZHA less products but I saw a device that on ZHA is limited with what you can do and the same device with Z2M has more capabilities

near echo
open mica
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@near echo appreciate the feedback. I went with the ZHA with the Sonoff coordinator and so far I have aqara devices on it and looking into getting rid of my hue hub and start putting the lights onto the ZHA coordinator

near echo
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yep - just have 1 co-ordinator. ZHA should do all zigbee devices. Z2M in that way has limitation that converters needs to be written for unsupported device, not difficult, just not everybody's cup of tea. Get rid of the hue hub fast 🙂

open mica
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Will be getting rid of my smartthings hub as well but now I don't know what to use for zwaze

near echo
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ah so you have multiple hubs ! well good riddance now. The Zwave has a sperate co-ord, you can run those in parallel

open mica
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Is there a z-qave dongle I can get

grim igloo
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Then add the motion sensors last (you have to factory reset these to pair)

grim igloo
fresh dawn
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Quick Question: hunting for water leak sensors, looks like there are some well-priced zigbee ones (seems most z-wave ones are fairly expensive). New to HA and z-wave, haven't incorporated any zigbee products yet... is there any reason to NOT grab some zigbee sensors? One thought I have is the network - having no zigbee devices at all yet (nor even a zigbee hub of any time yet), will these be able to reliably communicate?

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One I am potentially looking at is ThirdReality sensor, as it has a build-in 120dB alarm as well. I've had some fairly damaging water leaks... I just cannot have that shit happen again.

grim igloo
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if buying zigbee sensors it's best to steer clear from the sonoff ones

fresh dawn
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Ya! I was looking at those, but not sure I can get them in Canada and if I can, I doubt they will be reasonably prices. z-wave is my preferred approach... but... I don't know. I have govee right now (I have about 8 of their leak sensors), but I cannot seem to integrate them at all. I have the govee hub as well.

grim igloo
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frankly i wouldnt skimp out on leak sensors (like buying cheap ones off ali e) vs spending a bit more for trusted ones.. just cuz if they fail you're kinda fucked lol

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but if money was a concern i'm sure the aqara zigbee ones are fine - especially the newer zigbee 3.0 ones

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iirc govee recently opened up their stuff to be controllable on lan instead of cloud only

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maybe just their led strips idk

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govee is just another chinese company with a US storefront and name change that sells stuff overpriced so i dont really buy or suggest their stuff to anyone :/

fresh dawn
grim igloo
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word

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do you already have a zigbee mesh and a zwave mesh?

fresh dawn
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I am starting up a zwave mesh... witth a whopping (get ready for it) 2 x Leviton zwave switches (they were 50% off at Home Depot... I'm thinking people kept buying and returning thinking they were wifi) and the Zooz 700 series zwave stick

grim igloo
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ah shit

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you'd need to add a bunch more light switches or some repeaters to have those leak sensors be reliable

fresh dawn
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I have about 5 other switches I plan to install.

grim igloo
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idk what your house layout looks like but you cant go super far with either protocol.. but zwave is pretty short range

fresh dawn
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They are sitting in a box, I just haven't gotten to them. I've been installing locks (yale assure lock 2) and new handles on every... damn... door...

grim igloo
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are those zwave?

fresh dawn
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Ya, I can spread out some switches even if they don't serve any purpose other than to be a switch / extend the mesh.

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The locks? I could only get the wifi ones, but will be ordering zwave modules

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Hmm, I did find the Zooz zwave sensors (sorry, I know we're in a zigbee channel) from The Smartest House for $22.95 USD each, so probably about $35 Canadian Pesos

grim igloo
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best to buy direct from them. if you are willing to wait they have sales a few times a year such as black friday where almost everything goes down like 30-50%

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probably use wayback machine to see

fresh dawn
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Hmm, good suggestion actually.

grim igloo
fallow tide
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also it wont do z2m either but does zwave-js and zha just fine

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just wish i could figure out why i cant get my skyconnect to work with z2m

grim igloo
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for either protocol

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especially zwave

fallow tide
#

What issues should I be looking out for cause I don't seem to be having any issues

peak vapor
#

anyone try those tuya or aqara presence sensors?

vernal lotus
#

My ZHA stopped working after I updated to 2023.03.6

austere patio
austere patio
sour shadow
glossy narwhal
#

Hi has anyone has any success with the Tuya ts0601 siren with ZHA. I've seen https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/issues/1379 and from there it seems I have to set various cluster values to make the alarm sound, but, I'm not sure what cluster to set to what value. Any pointers please? Not sure yet if a cluster can be altered in an automation, I assume it can.

peak vapor
sour shadow
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The Aqara FP1 is fine

violet wave
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it looks like codecov was disabled somehow, it's not in the github actions anymore

floral osprey
#

Hello, i have a zha device that sends 3 zha_events when pressed a button. However it sends multiple in a row, so my automation for toggle a light initiates multiple times based on one click. How do i avoid this?

near echo
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By default the automation will run in single mode and unless that automtion has spent say 500ms the next one will not be trigged. This is assuming that the current multiple clicks you have are within that 500ms

empty vine
#

How can I rename the device so that the sensors are more meaningful than sensor.0x63536857A_humidity?

sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT?

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In Z2M you can rename things in the Z2M UI and have that flow through to HA

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Use the pencil icon

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empty vine
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Z2M, let me try

sour shadow
#

The pick the option to rename in HA too

empty vine
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friendly_name is already in use

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I guess leftover from ZHA?

sour shadow
#

Probably

#

Well, no

#

That means you have something called that in Z2M already

empty vine
#

Might have to remove entries manually from the database?

sour shadow
#

Yes

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With Z2M stopped

empty vine
#

The home_assistant.db or zigbee.db?

sour shadow
#

database.db

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In Z2M

empty vine
#

Oh, I see... So I would have to stop Z2M (and MQTT?), then download the database.db, update it on my PC and reupload the updated one to the RPi then start Z2M/

sour shadow
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Just Z2M

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Be careful editing it on Windows that you don't end up breaking it with Windows line endings

empty vine
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I was thinking opening it up in HeidiSQL on Windows

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I could try copying the database.db on my Debian server and edit it there somehow.

sour shadow
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It's a text file

empty vine
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Oh, so Notepad++ should work theoretically

sour shadow
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Yes

empty vine
#

So, I backed up that file, deleted everything except coordinator, reuploaded and started Z2M. I had to re-pair the device, but it ended up with "Interview failed" and trying to rename the device with the option to rename in HA still throws the error about friendly name in use

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Maybe a different file should be edited?

sour shadow
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Check devices.yaml

empty vine
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No such file

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Checked /config and /config/zigbee2mtqq

flint cedar
#

Hey there guys! I was thinking about getting a zigbee hub, so i could expand my zigbee network on another floor. I tried to move on of my devices downstairs but my network doesn't reach there. So the question is, since i already have a wifi router working as a repeater, does the Sonoff ZBBridge Smart Hub will do the trick? So far i was using the coinbee II to manage the devices of the main floor.

sour shadow
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The ZBbridge is crap, don't buy it

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Any WiFi bridge is likely to be painful to use

#

Why not just add some Zigbee routers to extend the mesh?

flint cedar
#

you mean devices to act as routers? like plugs etc?

sour shadow
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Yes

flint cedar
#

well, i tried to connect one device that wasn't a router, and i failed to get it connected. i assume such devices doesn't even have strong signal to run the mesh, right? but i'm also worried about the concrete between the two floors

sour shadow
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You may "just" have to lay things out so that the router on one floor is directly above/below the one on the next floor

vivid heart
#

Im looking for a battery operated humidity and temperature sensor (6M+)
I need fast update speed
Once a minute would be good ngl

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I basically wanna detect when im showering
Plus have the data so i can open window and stuff

sour shadow
#

Xiaomi Aqara

cedar crystal
#

Hello guys,
I have HA installed on a Synology via docker. Evrything working fine.

I now want to install my SONOFF USB Dongle. I saw that we need to install first a MQTT Broker like Mosquito MQTT.

I tried to install it by adding the synocommunity package center to my synology package center and it does not work. I have a "Connexion failed" error. ANy idea why ?

Tinkerer already told me that i don't need MQTT, i can use ZHA already. What's the difference ? What's better ?

sour shadow
#

Neither Z2M or ZHA are better, they're different

rapid dawnBOT
#

There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

cedar crystal
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Ok thanks ! a lot

sour shadow
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If you want the easy button then ZHA has no external dependencies

grim igloo
#

You can watch a YouTube video showing how people use and configure devices with both then decide

cedar crystal
#

Yes i understand, way clearer ! Thanks a lot

grim igloo
#

A lot of us here use z2m but zha has come a long way so many downsides that existed a year ago aren’t there anymore

cedar crystal
#

No i think i prefer to use ZHA i think

grim igloo
#

Cool

cedar crystal
#

The thing is, i tried to plug my SONOFF dongle and it doesn't appear in HA

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So i tried to see how to install it and then i found this tuto with MQTT

sour shadow
#

It may be that your NAS doesn't support USB passthrough

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DSM 7 broke that

cedar crystal
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Is there a fix ?

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yes i have DSM 7.1

sour shadow
#

Yeah... don't use DSM 7 ablobjoy

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You'll need a network connected (not WiFi connected!) coordinator

grim igloo
#

Yea might as well just buy a PoE coordinator for zigbee

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Or move home assistant to a better device

cedar crystal
#

PoE means ?

sour shadow
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Power over Ethernet

cedar crystal
#

Oh ok, i'm sad 😢

sour shadow
grim igloo
#

I don’t like the idea of running syno and not using the official docker container

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Although apparently it isn’t the worst thing ever

grim igloo
cedar crystal
grim igloo
cedar crystal
#

Oh ok, doesn't work btw so ... I only have the official package

grim igloo
#

I see

cedar crystal
#

So, i should buy a POE coordinator for Zigbee, and detect it with HA through local network right ?

grim igloo
#

It doesn’t have to be PoE they’re just nice cuz then you don’t need to run a separate power cord

grim igloo
cedar crystal
cedar crystal
grim igloo
#

Depends on the model I guess but no usb passthru support is kind of important for a lot of people

grim igloo
#

Maybe there’s a way it’s worth investigating

high atlas
#

HI all , I have a question about a zigbee / ZHA device.. is this the proper channel? It is about a smart bulb:
TS0505B
by _TZ3000_quqaeew6

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it's' a LIDL smart RGB bulb

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it only shows me these controls:

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Light and Start-up color temperature

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But it should have RGB etc. options

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I connectec it via sky-connect/ zha

grim igloo
#

re-pair it maybe it didnt join correctly

high atlas
#

Ah ok, will try that. I can see many more attributes in the 'manage zigbee device'

sour shadow
#

Are you looking at the device or the entity when using the light.turn_on serviice?

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Things like setting the colour are handled by the service call, not device options

high atlas
sour shadow
#

If you're trying to set the current colour/brightness/etc that's the wrong place

high atlas
#

Oh , sorry about that then.. But what is the proper place?

sour shadow
#

With service calls, in automations or scripts, or by selecting the light entity in the UI

high atlas
#

Oh I see, I previously added some 'smart wall plugs' that I also managed via the devices directly

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But know I see there is a much nicer UI for that 😄

#

Thanks, I see a color picker in the details now

fair owl
#

Planning to add more motion/contact sensors to my home. I have been running ZHA with SkyConnect. What is the budget option that will play nicely with the system? I have a bunch of aqara/xiaomi sensors but would like to get something that's zigbee 3.0 compliant.

sour shadow
#

They also do Zigbee 3.0 versions 😉

#

Look for the E1/T1/P1 ranges

fair owl
#

I can only find contact sensor E1 on aliexpress

#

cannot find the zigbee 3.0 version of motion sensor

sour shadow
#

The P1 motion sensor can be found in many places

#

I actually got mine from Amazon

fair owl
#

I also need the temp/humidity sensor T1 as well but cannot find it anywhere

#

Does it play nicely with the zigbee mesh?

sour shadow
#

Yes

fair owl
#

like hoping to the best router

grim igloo
hollow kraken
#

What is the impact on my network of using Zigbee (which I believe uses 2.4Ghz band?) versus Zwave? Is Zigbee just using the same band as my WiFi network but communicating with a hub so it doesn't show a bunch of devices on my router, or is it actually on it's own channel?

mellow geode
#

They can conflict though (as seen in the pictures)

peak vapor
#

there's probably interference problems to consider. I'd suggest doing a scan around you for finding appropriate channels

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especially before you put devices on it lol

hollow kraken
#

I'm already using Kasa light switches which are just straight WiFi 😛

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And I'm starting to wonder if they're having an effect on my WiFi APs.

peak vapor
#

2.4ghz wifi isn't going away any time soon but boy is it ever crowded

hollow kraken
#

I have higher dollar APs, but I've noticed intermittent issues with my network from time to time.

hollow kraken
#

And I believe the only Zigbee devices I have are my Hue bulbs.

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So I'm wondering if my Hue bridge and my APs will identify which channels are being utilized by the other and try to jump onto a different one.

lilac wharf
#

I'd recommend disabling the auto-channel selection on your APs

vernal lotus
#

So I've been using ZHA without issue since October. I was a few updates behind (I was on 2023.3.0) and now after running the update to 2023.3.6 ZHA can't connect to my Conbee II. I've been messing with it all morning. ls /dev/serial/by-id/* shows the device but ZHA throws errors whenever it tries to start.

molten linden
#

conbee is known to get into funky states some times, have tried unplugging it and then reconnecting?

vernal lotus
#

yes and restarting both the VM and host

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tried a different port as well

grim igloo
#

It’s on usb extender right

vernal lotus
#

It was to begin with, but I also tried without it and got the same results so I put it back on the extender

grim igloo
#

Time to buy a tube coordinator?

vernal lotus
#

thats a sentence I've not previously heard

grim igloo
#

Tube - guy who replied above sells PoE coordinators that are popular here

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Well and a few other things

vernal lotus
#

that's an interesting concept. I'm fulla PoE over here

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not looking forward to re-pairing 71 devices but I'm open to it

molten linden
#

you can migrate without having to repair

vernal lotus
#

oh thank god

molten linden
#

you just have to be sure your conbee is sort of up-to-date of fw I believe. ZHA takes periodic network backups and all the info isn't there if not more recent fw from what I know

grim igloo
grim igloo
vernal lotus
#

I think the last time I upgraded the FW was like maybe November

molten linden
#

there are a few saved in the zigbee.db file, you can also pass a config key to set how often. I think I have a test box doing it every few seconds lol

#

you are probably fine, I think it was much older fw.

#

are you just getting a timeout when it tries to access the conbee or is the error something else?

vernal lotus
#

enter the serial port settings:

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I enter /dev/serial/by-id/usb-dresden_elektronik_ingenieurtechnik_GmbH_Conbee_II_DE2650438-if00 which is what I get from ls /dev/serial/by-id/*

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just says Failed to connect

#

I also tried ttyACM0

molten linden
#

You said you are using a vm. Is the serial by id from the host of the vm? you are sure it’s passing through okay?

vernal lotus
#

when I run the command for the serial by id i'm running through SSH on home assistant not on the host machine

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the virtualbox software shows it checked off in my USB settings for passthrough

molten linden
#

it’s pretty common for conbee to be flakey after an update it happens with just about every release even when the underlying libraries don’t have any changes. Generally I think unplugging it for a bit and then reconnecting helps. Maybe let it sit disconnected for 5-10 minutes if you haven’t tried that yet. Maybe someone else will have some thoughts too.

vernal lotus
#

yeah the only change in the release notes that seems even remotely related since 2023.3.1 is "Clean ZHA radio path with trailing whitespace"

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I even upgraded the firmware on it

soft saddle
#

Hoping someone can help here. I recently picked up the one thing my home still needed, a motor to automate my window shutters (https://www.amazon.com/Blindsmart-Plantation-Shutters-Automatic-Rechargeable/dp/B0B74S4FVH). I got the Zigbee version, but now I'm realizing that it's actually an RF model, and the "Zigbee" is a bridge device. I've managed to pair that device into my ZHA, where it's listed as a Router.

The instructions are based on using a Tuya Zigbee gateway, and it says to pair the adapter device to Tuya, then pair to the motor by pressing up. This appears to be the same bridge used in their roller shades. The roller shades have a hubitat driver (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yBfsBpusYI1SKvMm4o0dnYRYMmD3LNiP/view) that shows "Tuya Window Shade" so I'm wondering if there's a way to just tell HA that this Zigbee device is a Zigbee Window Shade and if that will do it. I'd really rather not have to get a Tuya Zigbee bridge and have to talk to it via HA when I have ZHA already.

austere patio
woeful sentinel
#

here's a general question - i have several devices which have numerical values, but appear as strings in home assistant, so they can't be graphed on a line

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also, the Statistical Graph doesn't pick them up

#

how to i get these zigbee properties to show up like normal numbers in home assistant?

#

i'm using a hack with customize to give it a unit of measurement but it still won't let me graph it with Statistics

# 
sensor.washing_machine_x_axis:
  unit_of_measurement: '1'
sensor.washing_machine_y_axis:
  unit_of_measurement: '1'
sensor.washing_machine_z_axis:
  unit_of_measurement: '1'
sensor.dryer_vibration_strength:
  unit_of_measurement: '1'
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that at least shows it on a normal history graph, but it doesn't work with Statistics

#

guess i'm wondering if there is something on the z2m side of things that can be adjusted before it gets to HA

grizzled kettle
#

And all states are always strings in HA.

woeful sentinel
#

ah ok - well i meant without using the "customize hack", the data points above appears as horizontal bar graphs. like if they were binary sensors

iron musk
#

I'm passing my zigbee skyconnect in through a Unraid VM and it throws an error whenever I try to configure it. I'm connecting to my zwave stick the same way, but that working fine. Is there something special that needs to be done for the skyconnect?

# 
Source: components/zha/core/gateway.py:185
First occurred: March 28, 2023 at 10:00:20 PM (3 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:20:48 PM

Error setting up entry QEMU USB SERIAL, s/n: 1-0000:00:07.7-4 - QEMU for zha
Error setting up entry Skyconnect for zha
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/asyncio/tasks.py", line 456, in wait_for
    return fut.result()
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:```
rapid dawnBOT
#

@iron musk I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hybrid cloud
#

this isnt ha related at all, just issues with my aqara motion sensor, wonder if anyone knows whats going on. im getting lots of abnormal blinking trying to re-pair it. holding down the pair button is resulting in varrying behavior each time. zha can occasionally start interviewing but just times out every time. does anyone have any idea whats going on with my motion sensor here

#

starting to think maybe something got bashed up internally

grim igloo
#

Sometimes you have to keep pressing the button while pairing for some devices

#

There’s usually instructions on the z2m site but pressing button over and over while pairing is the only way for some stuff

hybrid cloud
#

i think therewas some internal issue, it felt like it wa losing power mid button press or something

#

anyways i broke the negative battery contact by bending it too far so its a non issue now lmao

grim igloo
#

Sometimes they ship with bad batteries too

hybrid cloud
#

nah ive had it for like almost 2 years now

#

tried new batteries and stuff, i think it just fell off the wall one too many times honestly

grim igloo
#

Might as well take it apart and see if something came undone lol

#

Prob easy to fix with a soldering iron or flux and a heat gun or something

hybrid cloud
#

honestly i l ooked at the board and i dont know much about circuitry but it looks undamaged

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id have my brother solder the contact if it worked, but i cant tell whats wrong with it, so no point going through the effort

toxic rampart
#

Hello! I'm trying to setup an event listener for zha , listening to zha_event but nothing is showing up. All devices do work as expected. Did the listener change?

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nevermind seems not al devices send out events

tardy plaza
#

Is someone using the ikea shortcut button(E1812) with the z2mqtt addon? After some time/days they loose connection and stop working. Has someone tipps to fix it?

vivid heart
sour shadow
#

You can't, but they update pretty fast by themselves

vivid heart
rapid dawnBOT
#

@vivid heart When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
#

Then you're probably into hardwired power territory

#

Which likely rules out most Zigbee options

vivid heart
sour shadow
#

@vivid heart ☝️

#

And there's no need to repeat yourself...

vivid heart
#

Ok

#

My internet is lagging

soft saddle
#

Quick question: I'm trying to update the firmware of a Zigbee stick, so I got SSH access working, was able to clone the repo of the update tool, but when I try and run commands I get a Can't execute python error. Is there a way to install python into HAOS, or is it a matter of it is installed but not in the path?

grim igloo
#

Assuming this is on a pi I’d suggest just putting a new sd card or ssd in it with raspberry pi os then updating the stick. I’ve never seen anyone do it inside haos

vivid heart
molten linden
grim igloo
#

Tinkerer that might be worth a pin. Idk how many people would actually use it but it’s useful

dusk python
#

I'm currently running z2m and when I reboot HA (not host) all of my battery-powered zigbee devices show as unavailable until I reboot the addon or the device updates on it's own

#

The only thing I've changed is switching my backend to EMQX

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The mains-powered zigbee devices have the state restored immediately after a reboot

soft saddle
molten linden
#

it treats them as separate. (assuming you are using the HUSZB)

soft saddle
#

I am, thanks.

dusk python
#

Anybody have any advice on how to make z2m restore state properly after HA reboots?

#

I'm wondering if EMQX behaves differently somehow from mosquitto

quick summit
#

Hello guys
Question: I can not control Aqara Roller Shade Driver E1 from HomeKit (device is visible, but nothing happened with commands from HomeKit)
In case of HomeAssistant I can control only via "Number" configuration
What I'm doing wrong?

as controller I'm using SONOFF ZigBee 3.0

dusk python
quick summit
sour shadow
dusk python
sour shadow
#

There may also be global settings, I didn't fully RTFM

dusk python
#

I didn't see one when I was looking in settings today

dusk python
sour shadow
dusk python
#

Shit sorry lol

quick summit
dusk python
#

I'm guessing the ZHA integration then?

sour shadow
#

There should be a cover entity... is there not?

quick summit
quick summit
grim igloo
#

Maybe it needs to be re paired or maybe it needs a quirk to work

quick summit
#

to be re paired
5 times
needs a quirk to work
what?

grim igloo
#

Custom config basically

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I use z2m I’m not sure how to actually add quirks to zha

#

What’s the exact model of the device

quick summit
#

okay, i've clicked on "reconfigure" and there is an issue with Analog Output binding

quick summit
grim igloo
#

That’s not a model number

#

Sorry thought I specified above

rapid dawnBOT
#

@quick summit I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
quick summit
grim igloo
#

I googled for a few mins and saw a couple forum posts with issues

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Seems maybe there are different revisions shipping with different firmware? Idk I’ll let someone else jump in

#

This might be @mystic copper or @mellow geode territory

mellow geode
#

The correct repo for tracking this is zha-device-handlers.
There are two E1 curtain drivers IIRC. One already has a quirk (which needs to be cleaned up), and the other one has a PR that also needs to be cleaned up

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I already started with cleaning up that PR a while ago, but never finished it, as the other quirk needs to be cleaned up first

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And I don’t have the devices to test with, so there’s always the risk of breaking stuff (since there are no tests for those quirks)

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I’ll try to look at both of those drivers again in the next few days. There might be custom quirks available in some issue already

grim igloo
#

thx for taking a look

dusk python
# sour shadow

Cant you just turn off @mention notifications for a whole server on discord?

grim igloo
#

no it's a useful feature built into discord for a reason. users have the option of changing notifications on their own to remove @mentions and other @ notifications which is fine for 99.99% of people

dusk python
#

I'm saying it's a per-user setting tho

#

If Tinkerer doesn't want those kinds of notifications they can be disabled so that no amount of @'ing will ping him haha

grim igloo
#

correct

quick summit
fathom rune
#

Hi I'm trying to disable battery reporting in a Tuya Zigbee remote I bought

#

As I suspect it may be draining my battery

#

Is it possible to do this by changing the Zigbee attributes of the device and which one should I go for please (is there documentation that I can refer to for this>)

#

Apaprently in zigbee2mqtt this is called the Powercfg report

mellow geode
#

I think that’s your model?

floral osprey
#

Does anyone know how to come around that some of IKEA trådfri not being able to be detected in home Assistant, while others do?

shadow valley
#

how do i solve when i have a node that hasn't connected to the mesh? what is the recommended way of doing that?

crisp pewter
#

Does anyone have experience with the Silvercrest Gateway from Lidl? Is it possible to use it with the Zigbee Home Automation integration?

shadow valley
#

it's an electrical heater

sour shadow
inland agate
#

The link was for the rooting tutorial, I'm not Paul Banks 😅

crisp pewter
#

Thanks!

crisp pewter
gentle torrent
#

Advice/suggestions on ZigBee smart controls

quick summit
vernal lotus
#

@grim igloo @molten linden fyi I figured it out. The USB filter on virtual box was the thing that was disconnecting intermittently. I changed it to a serial port to VM pipe and it started working.

grim igloo
#

virtualbox strikes again

vernal lotus
#

I don’t know why I did this to myself. I have plenty of NUC’s I could’ve just installed it on.

grim igloo
#

now is a good a time as any to backup and restore to a dedicated device

vernal lotus
#

True

grim igloo
#

otherwise you can send the extra nucs here.. cant let good processing power go to waste 😛

peak vapor
#

I was looking at pfsense to replace my ERL lol

inland agate
#

I followed the instructions i linked

vernal lotus
grim igloo
#

Lol

muted pelican
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Hi All! Yesterday, I power cycled my server and since then, My HA Skyconnect (and zigbee) does not work anymore. Under "Settings -> Integrations -> Skyconnect v1.0 I see "Failed to set up". The log say (in short, long one see attachment): Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)
March 30, 2023 at 10:22:12 PM – (WARNING) Zigbee Home Automation - message first occurred at March 30, 2023 at 10:21:55 PM and shows up 3 times

I already checked if the USB is still ttyUSB2 as in de core.config_entries is configured, but it is. I've checked this by disconnecting the USB and reconnect and viewing dmesg.

I'am running homeassistant in Proxmox, with the complete USB port assigned to HA in Proxmox. Did already a shutdown and start on Promox and HA itself, no luck.

homeassistant.components.zha.core.gateway log: https://pastebin.com/28XxTbf8 and homeassistant.config_entries log https://pastebin.com/w8u8mUBS

inland agate
muted pelican
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In you link, I see "Generic Hardware" With a "All hardware button" where the skyconnect shows up onder ttyUSB2 as "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_a872db5b1941ed1194a081a7ccf2b06c-if00-port0"

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and under "Home Assistant SkyConnect" with a "Configure" button

inland agate
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yup, that's good, that's what I was asking

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Could it be that the port assignment has changed since the first time you added the SkyConnect in ZHA and that's why the integration has failed?

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i.e., was it under ttyUSB_something_other_than_2 the last time?

muted pelican
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I did not change the settings or port, but i've checked (?) this by disconnecting the USB and reconnecting it, checked dmesg and its still ttyUSB2

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I can't say if it was ttyUSB2 before when it worked unfortantly. First time it was plugging in and go

inland agate
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try reconfiguring ZHA if the hardware looks to be available in HA

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let me see if there's any way of convincing Proxmox to assign the same port on VM reload

muted pelican
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You mean under "Migrate Radio"?

inland agate
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oh, right, you still have the old ZHA instance. I was thinking with the "configure" option you saw earlier, but I guess you do have to migrate

muted pelican
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"EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis" as radio type I asume?

inland agate
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yes

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but it should autodetect the SkyConnect upon migration

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if not, I don't know what the problem might be

muted pelican
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Serial device path: /dev/ttyUSB2 port speed 115200 data flow control software "failed to connect"

inland agate
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yeah, sorry, my knowledge ran out on this topic 🙂

muted pelican
muted pelican
inland agate
muted pelican
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Under Serial Device Path, I see a socket vore multiprotocol addon, and as far I remember, I've clicked true a firmware update. Don't know if the firmware is updated, but as I read it's experimental. Once I got back home, will try https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/firmware-update/ to revert to the original

inland agate
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multiprotocol means Zigbee + Thread, but I don't know if that affects the current Zigbee network setup. It might be the case, though

glossy lintel
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I'm the only guy here who got a nice fancy skyconnect, and did not even unbox it 😄

inland agate
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You did yourself a favor, my friend 😅

glossy lintel
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It took so long to get Z2M working with the sonoff zigbee stick....

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and still, I have all these damn unwired devices that keeps disconnecting all the time

inland agate
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The SkyConnect is not recommended with Z2M anyway

glossy lintel
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all these temp and humidity sensors....so unreliable

ashen bluff
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Are you using the E model?

normal plaza
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Not entirely sure where this belongs, but in the end, it's a problem relating to Zigbee:

I've just recovered my HA instance after my SD card died, and now I'm having trouble getting stuff connected again. I'm using a Raspberry Pi4 with a Zigbee stick (CC2652RB), and I've now changed from using an SD card to using a USB-powered SSD. Some Zigbee devices work fine, but for others the error message that pops up is "MAC channel access failure" which seems to be about interference. All Zigbee lights for example.

I've done some WiFi channel scans, and the one I already used (Zigbee 11 / 2.4 channel 1) seems to be the one that's used the least in vicinity (and by none of my own devices).

Seeing as the only change is the SSD using power, could it draw enough that the Zigbee stick can't transmit with the same amount of power as before?

Solved it: Somehow, putting a USB extender between the RPI4 and the Zigbee stick solved the interference problem.

honest relic
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Anyone else have to power cycle smart (repeater) power plugs after installing latest version of core and supervisor, to get zigbee network functional again?

sour shadow
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What plugs? What coordinator?

maiden cliff
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Okay, so I have z2mqtt on my ha, and I just bought a new zigbee lightbulb and an 8 button zigbee controller switch (ie, 4 sets of on/off). I have bound the lightbulb to buttons 4, works. I have made a zigbee group and put the lightbulb in, works (and I can toggle the group from HA). Now I want to bind the group to button 1 — and it fails. Am I missing something obvious?

peak vapor
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when you say "bind the group" what are you doing more specifically

maiden cliff
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I’m hoping for the on and off button on the controller to turn the group on and off.

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I don’t know if I’m doing it right, though.

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I’ve tried a couple different variants of various checkmarks on and off, but I super don’t know what those do.

foggy gyro
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Looking for airfilter recs that expose air quality reporting I was looking at the ikea starkvind table but the $270 usd seems a bit steep

peak vapor
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get an air quality sensor that's cheaper and a purifier you can control instead? lol. I'm kinda in an odd situation since I bought a dumb purifier so I can't control though. but the good ones aren't cheap imo

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I don't think the ikea one is HEPA actually

foggy gyro
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It isn't AFAIK which is crazy for the price

Any air monitor recs the ikea vindstyrka doesn't seem to be available state side (?)

peak vapor
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I think that's releasing april

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I'm waiting for it in Canada

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though from what I saw it's just PM2.5

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if you're hardware inclined you can hack the vindirtining from what I've read (or rather hijack it to get the data)

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minus the screen of the newer device of course

foggy gyro
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That's not a long wait

Still pm2.5 better off waiting imo

Are there any zigbee ones that are more sensitive?

peak vapor
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personally I'm using the SDS011 off my rpi

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it's a bit uhh bare board though and I haven't made an enclosure to pretty it up

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there's a repo to push it into MQTT but probably better discussed in #hardware-archived since it's not zigbee

foggy gyro
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Is it connected via USB on the pi?

peak vapor
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yeah

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usb to serial but still

foggy gyro
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$35 usd from Amazon I'll look into it

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Tyvm

peak vapor
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personally I'd like more data like TVOC and CO2

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but that's my own personal curiosity more than anything

foggy gyro
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Looks like same precision as the upcoming ikea one... Guess I'll wait till April

Yeah gaseous composition would be nice

peak vapor
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I'm using a sensibo elements but time will tell if it's any good (and also not zigbee)

foggy gyro
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Zigbee is just attractive cause I can move it around my home

maiden cliff
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Hm. I can no longer bind any of my existing equipment, it looks like. Maybe I need to do some updates.

peak vapor
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you could probably find some cheaper micro controllers for the sds011 fwiw. then you'd be able to move it lol

peak vapor
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I haven't tried with individual buttons before so not sure how that works. you could try the Z2M discord too

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interestingly:

VOC is not reported through Zigbee; the display also does not show any VOC value other than an arrow that indicates levels are increasing/decreasing/flat over time.

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by the time that releases maybe the ikea one will be out lol

foggy gyro
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That's reassuring

peak vapor
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I saw the product page on the US site

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it's listed at $50 so not bad

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cries in canadian dollars

foggy gyro
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Yeah $50 usd isn't break the bank

peak vapor
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you could also make the uppatvind smart yourself! lol. maybe some day I'll get into that kind of stuff but for now I've been buying zigbee enabled stuff mostly too

shadow valley
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what is the method of getting a zigbee device back online?

maiden cliff
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Got it working. Still not entirely sure if it was the updates that fixed it or me trying just that little extra permutation, but I have a group bound to action 1 and the single lamp bound to action 4 successfully. Now I just need to put zigbee lighting in for the other two floors of the house.

peak vapor
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@maiden cliff I'm curious does that mean your remote exposes multiple endpoints per button? (which model of remote do you have btw)

muted pelican
# muted pelican Hi All! Yesterday, I power cycled my server and since then, My HA Skyconnect (an...

Unfortunately, flashing/firmware updating the Skyconnect via de HA.io site, did not help. Got still the same error. Changed also usb-ports, but no change (other than it is ttyUSB1 now in stat of ttyUSB2)

When I try to Mirgrate the network settings, re-configure the current radio -> Serial Device Path ttyUSB1 SkyConnect v1.0, (etc etc) -> Radio type EZSP -> and port settings serial device path /dev/ttyUSB1 again, port speed 115200 and data flow control "software", I get in the gui ".

maiden cliff
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It’s sold as “EcoDim” brand but it’s actually a TuYa, as I should have expected really.