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random lily
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wheew... again learned somethign

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Have a nice day and thanks for your help

mortal sail
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morning. I'm having an issue with a few hue switches. I recently removed my hue hub and moved everything over to ZHA. Everything seems fine except for a few hue switches that wont seem to trigger anything, but are showing firing in the zigbee device screen. Prior to moving them over to ZHA they worked fine. The automations they are tagged to seem to work after testing them without the button press trigger. Is there anything that would have changed moving over to ZHA that would have caused some to work and some to not work?

shrewd pewter
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Which one do you think is the best Zigbee router -

  • Sonoff E version with a router firmware
  • Sonoff P version with a router firmware
  • Ikea zigbee repeater (TRÅDFRI)
    or something else?
sour shadow
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Define "best"

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The Sonoff P can support 50 clients, the Tradfri I believe is less than 10

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Of course, a standard power plug or light bulb is likely to be enough

shrewd pewter
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Is there one to prefer if I need to add a router only for the usage of a router?

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like their range or stability

sour shadow
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I'd go with the P personally

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Or any dedicated CC2652 based router device

brittle kindle
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Hi,

I have an issue with the built in device…

I added then removed a device… when I tried to re add… than I face with that…

“Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter”

I don’t know how to fix this…

Tried to remove Zigbee radio… and add again, but it wasn’t helping… can You give me any advice?

sour shadow
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What "device" are you talking about?

brittle kindle
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HA Yellow Zigbee with a Zigbee power plug…

mellow geode
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“Device seen - marking the device available and resetting counter” is a debug message and not an error

fierce lion
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Hello,
I am in a phase of planning my new houses smart system and i would like to use zigbee for the sensors and such.
For the light switches i would like to use regular light switches and i would like to add the switch modules behind them. Most likely they would be the only routers in the system that would make it stable, so i want to make sure they are routers. Some people say if it has neutural it is a router, but under some of them i found comments that its not a router even tho it has a neutural connection. I wrote to the sellers, but is there any way to make sure?
One of the products i was looking at:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_m0fm2Hu

solemn root
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Does anyone know if the Yale Assure Lock 2 can accept a Zigbee module? I would buy the base version and put in the module (which says it’s for Assure locks), but the Lock 2 page and appearance of the wifi module make me skeptical. Thanks!

azure ruin
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Is there a recommendation for a Zigbee router/repeater? I have a usb stick attached to HA but I’m having range issues

sour shadow
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Country?

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The Innr plugs are good, but they're UK/EU only AFAIK

deep zinc
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I just ordered an innr plug in the US (Amazon US site), will try. Ordered the 15A one not the 10A because those don't have power monitoring

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But innr is what was recommended to me too.

azure ruin
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I am in the US

deep zinc
brittle kindle
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I got this message and the device not detected…

azure ruin
deep zinc
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And (new generation) hue bulbs work well too but they're expensive if you don't need them and have to always be powered, etc.

azure ruin
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I have some but they are in a different area and connected to a hue hub so probably part of a different mesh?

deep zinc
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Yeah. I'm slowly moving all mine away from the hue bridge to HA. But the first gen ones are terrible routers.

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I see no reason for me to leave them on the bridge. I never use the scenes.

azure ruin
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I also have a $5 Zigbee stick from AliExpress with a PCB antenna on HA. It’s what was available at the time. Any better stuff out there now?

deep zinc
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I don't know what's recommend these days but I have a sonoff and it works well for me

azure ruin
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The scenes and color wheel in the hue app are popular with the kids.

deep zinc
azure ruin
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That looks very cool but I feel like I could build that for $20. Is the software OSS?

deep zinc
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it is, and I think the hardware is too. other items up there have BOM and case STLs and stuff but I don't see it for that one

azure ruin
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Is the son off S31 a router? It’s only $14

molten linden
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Just for the record costs me more than $20 and I buy parts in bulk

azure ruin
mellow geode
mighty river
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Ok so I just bought a conbee stick but I’m struggling to set it up.

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I’m on the serial port settings and I’m not sure what to put

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/dev/ttyAMA0 here is what auto went into it

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But it says “failed to connect” when I click submit

solemn root
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What's your HA setup like?

mighty river
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Already figured it out, thanks!!

tiny timber
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Managed to massage my FP1s into working order. Either they needed a day or two for the sensors to settle, or I've finally found a place where they trigger correctly. Damn those things are sensitive!

uncut quartz
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I have some Ikea Tradfri 5-button remotes. 1 of which works quite well. The other 2 are visible to HA, but don't seem to actually connect after initial pairing. If I press the pairing buttons 4 times while the "add device" screen is up, it goes through the process for the device, but then I immediately (in event listener) get device_offline event.

deep zinc
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Just ordered the PoE zigbee coordinator as well 😂

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will migrate all my devices to it before migrating from RPi4 -> VM in proxmox

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Just messed around with that and getting my sonoff USB stick to work was annoying. Did get it to though, but my mesh was all messed up due to different location.

deep zinc
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Crap, wonder if I should have gotten the one upgradable to thread later instead.

uncut quartz
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If you wait for "the next thing" you'll never upgrade at all. 🙂

deep zinc
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well it's already there

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so I could have just ordered it now

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don't know if there are any downsides other than the extra $1 which is fine

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and experimental with z2m but I use zha anyway

mortal sail
deep zinc
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yeah so did I, not sure it was the right move. but eh, it's fine, I don't care about thread much right now anyway

mortal sail
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I just moved everything over from ZHA to Z2M earlier today. When I was using ZHA, I had different triggers for my hue dimmer switches, which allowed me to create automations to turn bulbs on and off with a button press. those same options seem to have disappeared when I moved over to Z2M. Is there any reason why, or is there something else I need to change for the hue dimmer switches?

grizzled kettle
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You can certainly still make all the same automations, but they might be formatted slightly differently. Were you using device triggers with ZHA? You may need to use state triggers on the relevant entities with z2m instead. If you share a specific automation that you had for ZHA, I'm sure someone can give you ideas about what you might need to do to make an equivalent.

mortal sail
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I'm not sure if I deleted them, or they deleted when I switched over. I may have deleted them because the information wasn't there. 2 of them were just simple on/off with on/off button presses.

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the 3rd I'm not even sure is possible with a dimmer switch. I was attempting to call a service with it, and turn on a device (neither bulb/hue related)

grizzled kettle
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Why wouldn't that be possible? Sounds reasonable to me.

mortal sail
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I tried prior to the z2m move and i couldnt get it to work.

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the service call wouldnt work with the button press, but would work fine with run or a time action

grizzled kettle
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Well you should probably just focus on one question at a time. If you need help figuring out how to do something, just go ahead and ask.

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For starters, you should have one or more entities created by z2m for your dimmer. When you press the dimmer, one of those entities will likely change state very briefly, and then change back to "none" or an empty string. You use those state changes to trigger your automation.

mortal sail
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Weird, most of my hue devices are not offline

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now*

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So now, I am getting errors on my switches: 2023-03-05 20:44:33Failed to configure 'Random.Switch', attempt 1 (Error: Bind 0x001788010874db66/1 genOnOff from '0x00124b0029e8d10f/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms) at Timeout._onTimeout (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/waitress.ts:64:35) at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:559:17) at processTimers (node:internal/timers:502:7))

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I've tried restarting HA, tried reconfiguring the switches and it still won't configure correctly.

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Well, I guess when it first came into Z2m, it didn't join correctly. I've removed it and readded it, and it seems to have the correct triggers now. "on_press" is what I was looking for. Tested it and it works fine now.

deep zinc
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plugged wine fridge into just delivered innr plug, seems good so far. disabled the on/off entity so I don't turn it off, just using for power monitoring and extending mesh

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looks like it costs me ~$15/yr to run the wine fridge 😂

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assuming power stays constant

mortal sail
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Seems worth it.

deep zinc
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will cost nothing soon, hoping to get solar in next couple months

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but the innr heavy duty plug seems great.

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I wanna plug everything into power monitoring plugs now

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so nice

mortal sail
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So, I am now back to my automation for my tv to turn on with button press from hue dimmer switch, here is my automation: https://pastebin.pl/view/cdc09035 device does trigger, but TV doesn't do anything at all. Trace shows both the trigger and action working, so I don't know if it is an issue with the switch, or an issue with the action.

molten linden
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👋 I just packed your orders 😎

deep zinc
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Yeah I got the tracking number! Fast! 👍

mortal sail
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That was quick. Thanks!

gusty barn
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Hi everyone, Im having some trouble starting zigbee2mqtt on my Home assistant Skyconnect. This is the error Im having: https://pastebin.com/ES7pJfG6, I have set up the addon and the config is this: https://imgur.com/a/yFvDye8. Im not sure on how to move on. I am running thread on it too which I understand it can do both at the same time? Does anyone have a suggestion on how I get zigbee2mqtt started?

sour shadow
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The Skyconnect is marked experimental for a reason...

gusty barn
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But I should be able to install zigbee2mqtt and run with it? I know other people doing it. This is just me not getting it to start because some fault in configuration 😄

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I've had my deconz running for years and I want to transition to zigbee2mqtt because of the support for more devices (specifically some philips hue floodlights that run a separate mesh with hue hub today)

sour shadow
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In theory, if you got your config right, yes

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I'm not sure how it works if you're using Thread too

lost stump
sour shadow
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If the /dev/serial/by-id/ path doesn't work, switching to /dev/ttyUSBx isn't likely to help

lost stump
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Fair enough.

gusty barn
molten linden
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@gusty barn if you have the multi protocol addon installed and running you need to point z2m at the tcp:// of the addon. The serial port is now used by the addon and the device has been flashed with rcp firmware for multi protocol use.

gusty barn
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Ok, so like tcp://localhost:XXXX ?

molten linden
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Search around I don’t know it off the top of my head.

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Addon config should show the port. I think it’s 9999

gusty barn
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Ok, thanks

molten linden
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And I think you can use the addon name as the host

cinder phoenix
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I'm in discussion with the vendor to try to buy some of it (seen nowhere online), but I haven't see any report of it on HA / zigbee community

violet wave
naive summit
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Airgradient is also an option if you’re fine with wifi. It’s just a ESP32 in there, so you can reflash it to your hearts desire.

gusty barn
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So after reading up on skyconnect/zigbee2mqtt it seems it works on 1.30.1 but I just started and I have 1.30.2 and it does not work with MultiPan (both Thread and zigbee). How can I downgrade the z2m addon to something I never had? 😄

austere patio
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The Zigbee integration should have no knowledge of multi-PAN, all it does is connect to a TCP server and treat it like it any other network-connected coordinator

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You should be able to use the following config with Z2M: port: 'tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999'

gusty barn
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Thats exacly what I had set

gusty barn
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disconnected the skyconnect hardware and put in a usb-hub (still using the extension cord. connected again. reboot. now it starts (WTF) but now I get 502: Bad Gateway (no devices paired yet) if I go through nabu-casa remote login, but If I go to http://192.168.XXX.XXX:8123 I get Error 401: Unauthorized access (no https) when clicking the Ingress Web UI

brittle kindle
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Do You have any idea why a Zigbee plug not detected? It was detected before.. I removed and can not add again…

late imp
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I have a zigbee Elko dimmer that just refuses to pair. Anyone experienced something like this?

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can add, that im using yellow and zha. Should I try deconz?

sour shadow
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Only if you have a Conbee/Raspbee

mellow geode
lime goblet
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Hello I have been having errors with automations lately that are tied to my zigbee devices. This started occurring in the 2023.3. It will state that it is unable to get my device ID but my devices are connected and stable? It only occurs on reboot. If I redo the automations and set them up again they work fine.

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2023-03-06 15:33:21.429 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation.bathroom_motion_detected] Got error 'Unable to get zha device edbb9723801d5d64202496722e8bdbbc' when setting up triggers for BATHROOM - Motion Detected
2023-03-06 15:33:21.436 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation.bedroom_motion_detected] Got error 'Unable to get zha device b68bd644402dacb67dd5c1582750fcab' when setting up triggers for BEDROOM - Motion Detected
2023-03-06 15:33:21.440 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation.entrance_lock_door] Got error 'Unable to get zha device a442b148487c4b00c861b00d33400748' when setting up triggers for ENTRANCE - Lock Door
2023-03-06 15:33:21.442 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation.living_room_motion_detected] Got error 'Unable to get zha device b770fd5691d3b3163d58a3ce2e1a4e61' when setting up triggers for LIVING ROOM - Motion Detected
2023-03-06 15:33:21.444 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.automation.entrance_door_knocked] Got error 'Unable to get zha device a442b148487c4b00c861b00d33400748' when setting up triggers for ENTRANCE - Door Knocked

mellow geode
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Can you find other ZHA related errors before those in the logs? (Upload to https://dpaste.org/ + send the link here)

cinder phoenix
mighty river
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I’m having issues with scenes and my zigbee devices. The lights rarely change to the correct color temperate and the majority of the time just turn off

jade mirage
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when i try to start z2m... using a Sonoff ZB-E

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2023-03-06T23:11:08.280Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Serialport opened
2023-03-06T23:11:08.280Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Uart reseting
2023-03-06T23:11:08.280Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> Write reset
2023-03-06T23:11:08.281Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> [1ac038bc7e]```
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shouldn't there be more after the reset?

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there is nothing happening

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wtf. its working now.

short condor
ashen bluff
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Probably. Can't find anything about ZS-B-EU3-GY-MG they name it as but they're likely the same as these. Might just need to add their manufacturer code to the list:

ember raven
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I have a Zigbee light switch (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MS-104BZ.html) that has now randomly turned on a few times in the last 48 hours. Any tips on how to find the reason? I am 100% sure I don't have an automation that includes that light. Running z2m

ashen bluff
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I'd start with debug logging and checking the log file

deep swift
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Hello, I'm looking for recommendations for zigbee downlights (3.5"). I run zha on a conbee stick on a home assistant blue. Currently all of my hue bulbs work great but dont fit well in the ceiling cans. I am looking at these https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Tuya_TS0505B.html

ember raven
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So as far as I can tell in HA history, this is the moment my light turned on. No automation or anything telling it to:

debug 2023-03-07 05:09:43: Received Zigbee message from 'Bathroom Light Switches', type 'attributeReport', cluster 'genOnOff', data '{"onOff":1}' from endpoint 1 with groupID null
info  2023-03-07 05:09:43: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Bathroom Light Switches', payload '{"linkquality":231,"power_on_behavior":"off","state_l1":"ON","state_l2":"OFF"}'
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How can I find out where that payload came from?

ashen bluff
ashen bluff
ember raven
clever cedar
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Any 220v zigbee power strip recommendations?

ashen bluff
clever cedar
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Guys I have just replaced my Sonoff ZB Dongle-P for the SLZB-06

Now I want to use the old Sonoff as a router (successfully flashed the firwmare) and paired the dongle, but after a while I realize that the dongle that I have paired (and renamed) was the cordinator itself... And there is no new devices on my zigbee list

How can I reset the Sonoff to try again?

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Yes It's weird, the old sonoff appeared as the actual cordinator as a new device

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It seems that both my new and old coordinators have the same IEEE

austere patio
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What integration are you using?

clever cedar
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zha

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yeah... just re flashed the router firmware and my zigbee coordinator is like finding itself because that IEEE conflict

austere patio
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So if you migrate, the IEEE of the old coordinator is written to the new coordinator

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The router firmware probably always uses the hardware IEEE

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It won't be possible to run both in the same network

clever cedar
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no way to change either cordinator's IEEE or routers IEEE ?

austere patio
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You can't change the coordinator's IEEE, that would cause the network to start breaking

clever cedar
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i did a backup and "migrate radio" on ZHA

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how did I managed to migrate the IEEE?

austere patio
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That's what the ZHA radio migration does 😄

clever cedar
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from the sonoff to the SLZB

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well f**... i really needed the old one as a coordinator

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the only thing i can do is repair everything rom scrathc?

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scratch?

austere patio
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i really needed the old one as a coordinator
What specifically are you trying to do?

clever cedar
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just want to use my old sonoff coordinator as router

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i got the SLZB-6 and is working better but even so my signal is weak in a part of the apartment

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I did the migration in ZHA and then re flashed the old cordinator as a router

austere patio
clever cedar
austere patio
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Doesn't matter, just as long as it's not identical

clever cedar
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so after installing the repo all i have to do is run:

python cc2538-bsl.py --ieee-address xx:xx:xx: ?

clever cedar
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no luck... I don't quite understand this :/

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now i can't even "ls" on my machine i get

-bash: /usr/bin/python3: Input/output error

austere patio
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That sounds very broken. What exactly did you run?

jaunty maple
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Anyone know of a good remote with lots of buttons that uses ZigBee? Using the Ikea remote today but looking for something with a couple of more buttons.

clever cedar
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then i tried

python3 cc2538-bsl.py --bootloader-sonoff-usb -evw --ieee-address 00:12:4b:00:01:4d:12:34

austere patio
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Looks fine to me. Did you just install Python or was it previously running?

clever cedar
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just installed

somber haven
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Hello! I too am fairly new to Home Assistant, but already have quite a few devices / automations.
My question is about the Aqara double switch "WRS-R02". I would like to be able to trigger automations with the switch via ZHA with Skyconnect. I was able to add the switch, but everything is displayed as unknown and nothing happens when I press a button. All quirks and blueprints I found in the last hours need a ZHA_event, but the switch isn't sending an event. Can someone help me please? I really don't know what to do anymore.

knotty saffron
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Hello . Anyone know why ZigBee2mqtt user interface stopped appear in my HA? I can still controll my devices

graceful venture
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new to this home automation stuff. looking for zigbee or z wave plugs here in the UK. when looking and stating that the plugs require a “hub” is this referring to the manufacturers own hub or can something like a conbee II be used?

sour shadow
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Not a ConBee, but yes

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The ConBee is ... rather sensitive to RF noise

dusk python
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Conbee is like ancient for what you can get for 15 bux

sour shadow
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You can use either Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA

rapid dawnBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

graceful venture
sour shadow
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Yup, that's the good one

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That'll work with either Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA

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Do put it on a USB extension cable, 0.5m to 2m long

graceful venture
thorn cobalt
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I started slowly to migrate to my new network z2m on the sonoff dongle P but i still got some questions
Network map now shows routers and end devices https://imgur.com/a/tlqHRKQ
Although I added routers (hue bulbs) trough routers they still connect directly to the sonoff coordinator I am a bit worried because of the devices directly connected to the coordinator like this. From what I understand 50 routers directly connected is MAX but still have to add another 100 bulbs, plugs and sensors. Will this going to work?

Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.2 commit: cdf62ea Coordinator type zStack3x0 Coordinator revision 20221226

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Coming from 2 conbees btw

mellow geode
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Yes, it'll work. Don't worry

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They won't all connect directly to the coordinator

sour shadow
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Also Xiaomi's older (Zigbee 1.2) devices pair to the first thing they hear if you don't force the use of a given router

thorn cobalt
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Nice

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Thx guys

cinder storm
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What do I need to use zigbee on a raspberry 4?

sour shadow
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A coordinator, on a USB extension cable

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You may also need a powered USB hub

worldly scarab
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Hello all! So.. I posted a few days ago - could not get my Sonoff stick to load without errors after (ages) of no issues. In an odd leap of faith, I deleted ZHA and the three DB files. Waited a few hours (actually forgot to check in on the system) and then re-added ZHA. For whatever reason, the stick was recognized and came up. I added back my (several handfuls) of devices. All is well now. Just thought I would share that 'patience' still plays a (sizable) role in this HA world. Thanks for your support!

shrewd lava
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Hi
Has anyone had trouble with Tradfri bulbs connected via ZHA (conbee2) - I seem to be unable to change colour from warm to cold

short sandal
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@shrewd lava TRADFRIbulbE27WSglobeopal1055lm on ZHA on a Conbee2 running HA 2023.03. No issues changing warm/cold.

shrewd lava
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Thank you... but there must be something I'm doing wrong than

short sandal
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@shrewd lava What’s the exact model info? And firmware?

maiden axle
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I'm looking out for Zigbee door/window sensors and also for Zigbee smoke detectors than are capable of using Zigbee routers instead of having to bind them directly to the coordinator. Any suggestions?

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Using Z2M

sour shadow
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For sensors, Xiaomi Aqara

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If you can get the E1 sensors they're better than the original, but both work

maiden axle
sour shadow
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Well... end devices don't route

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Battery powered devices are only ever end devices

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They will connect to routers though

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Most of mine are

maiden axle
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No, I did not mean the devices itself do not route, sorry, my mistake.

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They don't get routed.

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By my Philips Hue bulbs which act as routers.

sour shadow
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They'll work fine if you don't have broken routers

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Just pick the option to pair via the device in question

maiden axle
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Is there a special option?

rapid dawnBOT
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@maiden axle When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

sour shadow
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You'll notice that there's a downwards arrow there...

maiden axle
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Holy crap, I was not aware of this since so long now 😂

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Lemme try that!

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Thanks a lot mate!

sour shadow
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It got added a long time ago, but you're not alone in not noticing the obvious option...

ashen coral
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Whoa!

wintry spruce
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Hi there, I'm looking to write a custom quirk for a device (remote control) that's not supported on zha yet and could use some help. Specifically translating button presses to device automation triggers. I was able to write a custom quirk that gets applied to the device but I am not sure how to define the device automation triggers. I've had a look at other quirks and tried to copy how they do it, however I'm not getting any events triggered. zha etc are all set to debug logging, but I don't see anything in the logs when I press buttons on the remote

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log message from a working device: 2023-03-07 18:10:50.417 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Received incomingMessageHandler frame with [<EmberIncomingMessageType.INCOMING_UNICAST: 0>, EmberApsFrame( profileId=260, clusterId=6, sourceEndpoint=1, destinationEndpoint=1, options=<EmberApsOption.APS_OPTION_ENABLE_ROUTE_DISCOVERY: 256>, groupId=0, sequence=180), 172, -57, 0x35bc, 255, 255, b'\x01N\x02']

log message from my device I'm trying to add: #2023-03-07 18:11:48.281 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] Received messageSentHandler frame with [<EmberOutgoingMessageType.OUTGOING_MULTICAST: 3>, 65533, EmberApsFrame(profileId=260, clusterId=6, sourceEndpoint=1, destinationEndpoint=255, options=<EmberApsOption.APS_OPTION_NONE: 0>, groupId=16388, sequence=126), 255, <EmberStatus.SUCCESS: 0>, b'']

molten linden
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I'd advise opening an issue on the ZHA_Device_Handlers repo, with the information in in the issue template with quirk not applied, and also include your quirk as well. there are some helpful folks there who are not active on discord.

wintry spruce
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there's an open issue with no activity for a while that's why I wanted to try myself

molten linden
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still maybe useful to post the quirk attempt there, it might trigger some more eyes on it

wintry spruce
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device_automation_triggers = {
        (SHORT_PRESS, BUTTON): {
            COMMAND: COMMAND_TOGGLE,
            CLUSTER_ID: 6,
            ENDPOINT_ID: 1,
            ARGS: []
        },
    }
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that's what I have for the triggers but no idea what I have to define there

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I cant upload the entire file

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also subscribing in the Homeassistant UI to zha_event does bring up nothing so far

molten linden
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if you aren't seeing events, that's what you need to focus on. the device_automation_triggers work off the same data, so if no events they won't work either.

final kestrel
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wait till they find out they can Easly reset hue bulbs with zigbee2mqtt

wintry spruce
molten linden
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quirk most likely

wintry spruce
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okay thank you

wintry spruce
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how would I go about debugging the device? like log anything that comes in...

maiden axle
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I saw a couple of videos showing it running with ZHA and Alarmo. But not with Zigbee2MQTT and Alarmo.

jade cliff
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Hi, I have downgraded my Conbee II to Firmware 0x26580700 and started using Z2M

Do I need to do anything to prevent Conbee from updating to a newer firmware?

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I'd like to stay with that firmware, as it's the most stable one for Z2M

ashen bluff
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Z2M will (can) not update it

jade cliff
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Ah perfect!

ashen bluff
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OTA updates can be very slow but 40m is the longest I had yet. Please use a direct link next time

jade cliff
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I don't know how to do that. Hope it doesn't end up with an error

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I think the remaining time is not accurate though, it seems to proceed faster

mellow geode
wintry spruce
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there are multiple versions of the remote, the top one does appear to have a working quirk but I have a newer model (see latest comment)

pliant osprey
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Hi guys, question:
Since today I notice that my home assist is not always available.
How can I achieve this, restarting Pi does not always have the desired effect

ashen bluff
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Don't cross-post

fossil loom
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hi, I have added aqara vibration sensor to my door to detect if my dog scratches the door, however the sensitivity of the sensor is not high, when attempting to change it I get this error
https://imgur.com/HhbAAwy

What should I do to change the sensitivity to high in this case?

Using Z2M

ashen bluff
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Make sure the device is awake

fossil loom
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He is.

# 
Error 2023-03-08 18:44:44Publish 'set' 'sensitivity' to 'Bedroom Door Vibration Sensor' failed: 'Error: Write 0x00158d0008d0bf86/1 genBasic({"65293":{"value":1,"type":32}}, {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":35000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":4447,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'MAC transaction expired' (240))'
austere patio
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MAC transaction expired means the device wasn't awake when you tried to send a message to it. Click a button, move it around, etc. before sending data to it

fossil loom
austere patio
snow compass
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I am a bit tired of Deconz software and it does not pick up the latest IKEA light I just bought. So I am now thinking about going for ZHA instead, it has been confirmed to work there. I run my zigbee network from a remote raspberry pi with linux and docker. I can´t seem to find a zha container to install. Are there no support for having my conbee ii stick in a remote rpi when using zha?

austere patio
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If a light isn't joining your network, switching integrations will not help

snow compass
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My server is in the basement with concrete between it and the main floor where most of my devices are..

austere patio
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If everything is still on the same local network, you can install ser2net on the Pi to expose the Conbee and then have ZHA connect to the serial port socket://server.ip.address:port

snow compass
austere patio
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Even if a device isn't supported, it will still at least join the network

snow compass
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so how come I am not able to add the new light to my deconz instance? 😦 I have it really close by the stick. And others have reported to add the same light to their zha ..

jade cliff
austere patio
snow compass
drowsy goblet
#

Is there an easy way to tell z2m that my item with model number X is really the same thing as the item with model number Y in zigbee herdsman philips.js?

ashen bluff
drowsy goblet
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Specifically Hue Enrave Medium White, in philips.js shows zigbeeModel: ['915005996601'], but my light reports zigbeeModel 929003531502

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yes, is there a way to tell z2m to "try it" without editing the files or anything else?

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like hey z2m, I know you think this model isn't supported, just pretend it's this other model instead...

ashen bluff
dull bramble
drowsy goblet
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is that something I can edit inline in HA or would I need to edit files elsewhere, reinstall stuff, etc

ashen bluff
drowsy goblet
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hmm I might be able to do this

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right now I have it paired with the hue hub, but the thing buzzes like crazy over 50% brightness. I'm trying to switch it to z2m and swap the switch for an inovelli blue to see if that fixes it

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otherwise it's going back

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(and of course eventually if it does work I want it in z2m and inovelli blue anyways, so that would be a bonus that it already solves that)

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thanks, going to try the docker edit

paper umbra
#

Hi all,
I've got a Sonoff Zigbee stick attached to my Pi with HAOS. It works fine, finds all my devices like a motion sensor, temperature sensor and water leakage sensor.

Now I tried to add a door sensor (Tuya device). It is added instantly when I start the learning in Z2M, but LQI is 0 and there are no updates when I open/close the door 😦 How's that possible? I'm living in a not-so-big flat; its like 10-15m from Pi to sensor with 1 wall and 1 door in between. Should I consider buying a zigbee extender / any zigbee power plug to extend the range and test that? 😦

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Pairing worked instantly, though 😕

ashen bluff
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Effective Zigbee range indoors can be in the single digits. Some routers are definitely recommended. I wouldn't buy just routers. Buy something useful that acts as router.
Try if it works when it's closer to the coordinator or next router

paper umbra
#

anything that comes to your mind immediately?

ashen bluff
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Power plugs, LED controllers, light switches, bulbs. Permanently powered stuff like that

drowsy goblet
#

it's $$$ but inovelli blue switches (in smart mode) + hue bulbs gives you routers everywhere and forms a proper mesh

paper umbra
ashen bluff
paper umbra
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15€ is fine for me and I dont like aliexpress 😕 I'll give it a shot then!
Thanks for the help 👍

ashen bluff
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Very low risk with amazon in case you don't like it. I'd still try if it works near the coordinator first and if it does at which range/location it stops

paper umbra
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it's already "glued"/stuck to the door frame 😉

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super-beginners-mistake

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and I can barely move the Pi because its using ethernet

ashen bluff
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Okay then. Take note that it can take 24h or so to find a new route. Also try to re-pair it when the router (plug) is online

paper umbra
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Ok, will do!

thick crag
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Is it possible to bind a zigbee dimmer to multiple lights, and switch between which light is being controlled based on conditions?

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Or would that just require software control via automations

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Trying to keep the responsiveness of the bound dimmer controls but I think the only way I can achieve this dual functionality is via software

short sandal
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I’ve never really seen any delays with automations on dimmers. Curious to play with bindings at some point, but when I briefly looked at it I couldn’t have a light bound to a dimmer whilst still being able to control the light from HA, so it seemed mostly pointless. I might be doing the bibs wrong though.

upper canyon
#

I having trouble with my zigbee devices since the 2023.3 update. Some device update erratically and some command fails to pass. Any idea how to debug this?

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I get an error in the log on boot that I don't know what to do about :

Logger: bellows.uart
Source: /usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/bellows/uart.py:86
First occurred: 21:39:15 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 21:39:15

CRC error in frame b'de6f8f7fa37e' (b'7fa3' != b'c97a')
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And some warning.

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(using zha)

austere patio
upper canyon
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Sonoff

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(can get the exact model if needed)

sudden yarrow
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Posted this issue in #automations-archived - they sent me here. I'm having some trouble with ZHA based devices (IKEA shortcut buttons and Styrbar) in automations on my HA Yellow lately. After HA restart IKEA buttons don't trigger automations anymore (IKEA motion sensors do). zha_events are detected and in the automation editior it shows the triggers as - well - triggered on button press. A host reboot fixes it until the next HA restart. Anyone else with the same problem or a fix?

grizzled kettle
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I can't visualize what this means: "it shows the triggers as - well - triggered on button press".

sudden yarrow
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If you trigger the trigger condition in the automation editor it visually confirms it would have fired the automation.

mighty river
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

austere patio
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One of your devices (0xE29F) is likely offline. ZHA should still load though, it may just take a minute.

mighty river
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One message removed from a suspended account.

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One message removed from a suspended account.

opaque helm
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Do I need to buy extra zigbee hub like aqara besides having USB hub?

sour shadow
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No

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(though the USB stick is a coordinator, not a hub)

opaque helm
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so it's mainly just a repeater

sour shadow
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Well, you'll need some Zigbee router devices, yes

opaque helm
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i will have other hard wired zigbee switches that act like a repeaters

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ok, then I'm good without it

sour shadow
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Also, any Zigbee hub would be a coordinator, and set up a new mesh

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They wouldn't help expand your current mesh

opaque helm
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so zigbee hub (not-usb one) just acts like usb one that u plug into HA harware

sour shadow
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Well,except for the fact that HA can't use them and you can only add things the manufacturer supports... yes

opaque helm
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so multiple coordinators aint good for mesh, which then u basically creating another mesh network not connected to each other?

sour shadow
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Yes

opaque helm
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so it's like creating another wifi hotspot with different router and different IP network (192.168.2.1 and 192.168.3.1)... gotcha

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then I'll only get USB dogle

sour shadow
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And not a CC253x based one hopefully 😉

opaque helm
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I'll go with Aqara Hub E1, which supports zigbee 3.0 protocols

sour shadow
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What?

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Didn't we just discuss no hubs?

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Didn't you just say you'd get a USB dongle?

opaque helm
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it's a usb dongle/hub

sour shadow
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No

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No it's not

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A USB dongle (coordinator) would be something like the Sonoff P, or the SkyConnect

opaque helm
#

oh...

sour shadow
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I mean, if you want to be locked in to whatever a vendor supports, and possibly be reliant on their cloud service, go for a hub

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If you want to be smart... don't

rapid dawnBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

opaque helm
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i thought aqara got it's own usb dogle for HA

sour shadow
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No

opaque helm
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good to know

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sponsors shop only got cc2531 one...

sour shadow
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Don't...

opaque helm
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is it that bad or it locks u into their environment?

sour shadow
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Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices

opaque helm
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i see

sour shadow
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If you buy one you can expect it to lock up when things get "busy"

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Doesn't take much to cause that

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Buy something CC2652 based

opaque helm
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they got sonoff zigbee hub bridge but I assume this aint an option, cause I need dongle for HA

sour shadow
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The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues)

opaque helm
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yeah, I assumed that

sour shadow
opaque helm
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I'll try to get that sonoff dongle, since shop only got aqara and sonoff stuff

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Plus-P one

agile gorge
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Hello all,

#

Using ZHA for the first time and I've added a on/off ikea remote
My issue is the long press off each button, reports the same event on node-red

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unfortunately, can't check the events in the HA because the logbook is always reloading

grizzled kettle
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How about developer_tools->events? Don't think events even show up in the logbook.

opaque helm
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which one should I get sonoff zigbee dongle P vs E? Most of reddit recommends P version

drowsy goblet
#

Base on TI CC2652P + CP2102N

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I guess it's the P version, I had to flash the firmware to get it working right but after that it's been fine

sudden yarrow
agile gorge
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With a long press in 1 and a long press in the 0, I got the same event, everything is the same

agile gorge
upper canyon
sudden yarrow
agile gorge
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The long press doesn't have events, only when I release them

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And yes the event is the same

sudden yarrow
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In ZHA is an event for holding the button and one for release.

on short = command: on
on hold = command: move_with_on_off
on release after hold = command: stop_with_on_off
off short = command: off
off hold = command: move
off release after hold = command: stop_with_on_off
agile gorge
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ok so I was only cheking the release

austere patio
agile gorge
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because I thougth the first event was the on

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whivh is not true

drowsy goblet
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looking at https://github.com/zigbee2mqtt/hassio-zigbee2mqtt#testing-changes-locally to try adding a zigbeeModel locally, first step is "gain root access to Home Assistant installation" and I'm failing horribly lol. Can I use the terminal inside HA, or via the proxmox node console which gives me the HA console, but all the commands like docker ps dont work because it's "HA" console, can I escape that or do I need to ssh or something?

agile gorge
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so it tells, I can configure long press without the turn on / off

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its greate

upper canyon
agile gorge
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I think the only remote with that issue is the 5 buttons remote

sudden yarrow
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But still... Long left and right is borked by IKEAs firmware behavior

agile gorge
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im testing the on/off remote, for sure I will have that issue with the 5 button remote :/

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I will come back for that :p
thanks for the help

sudden yarrow
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The automations with IKEA remotes are causing trouble for me and stop working after a HA restart. Cannot pinpoint it to a specific issue - might be a ZHA (I have some doubts about that) or a core issue with automations (but why only ZHA IKEA remotes?). Or something completely different 🤷‍♂️

deep zinc
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hmm just getting an error (with no details) trying to set up the PoE zigbee coordinator

agile gorge
mellow geode
sudden yarrow
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I'm using those. After a restart I get zha_events and those "device automation triggers" fire. But they don't start the automation until I reboot the host or change something in the automation and save it. But this only happens to the IKEA automations. Shelly button automations still work. 🤷‍♂️

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I think it started with HA 2023.3.0

mellow geode
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Is there anything in the logs?

sudden yarrow
# 
Logger: homeassistant.components.automation.kuche_buttons_pods
Source: components/automation/__init__.py:603
Integration: Automatisierung (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 8. März 2023 um 22:16:46 (4 occurrences)
Last logged: 8. März 2023 um 22:16:46

Got error 'Unable to get zha device d00831a27cbb1f6ed5d76c15b7a0d49e' when setting up triggers for Küche: Buttons Pods
Got error 'Unable to get zha device 031ef70a99c820575c71636c8b04e449' when setting up triggers for Küche: Buttons Pods
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For other buttons similar log entries

rapid dawnBOT
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@sudden yarrow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
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@sudden yarrow I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.yaml
mellow geode
#

What coordinator are you using? Wireless Sonoff Bridge or something?

(Also, use something like https://dpaste.org/ for sharing logs in the future)

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And what HA version are you running?

sudden yarrow
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Silicon Labs EZSP in the HA Yellow with Multiprotocol Add-on

mellow geode
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And do you know what Silicon Labs based coordinator exactly?

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Ah, nvm

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The one in the Yellow?

sudden yarrow
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Yes. HA Core 2023.3.2

mellow geode
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Looks like it doesn't properly connect to the addon on startup. It should connect after a while and not break any automations though

molten linden
deep zinc
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zha. it kept saying too much interference, can't create network. I rebooted the pi, working now but gotta move all my devices over

mellow geode
sudden yarrow
mellow geode
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Yeah, it can't find the devices when first setting up automations. At that time, the devices are "offline", as ZHA (temporarily) gave up trying to connect to the coordinator

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This might be a bug in ZHA (either that device automation triggers aren't available when ZHA is still trying to connect or that ZHA is not "re-setting up" automations when it finally connected).

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@austere patio (above might be interesting to you -- "device automation triggers aren't set up when ZHA can't connect to socket/multiprotocol at the beginning")

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Does this happen every time you reboot HA Yellow and/or just HA Core?

sudden yarrow
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Only on HA restart. A host reboot "fixes" it.

mellow geode
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That's weird

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Multiprotocol add-on is up-to-date? (version 1.0.0)

sudden yarrow
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Yes (1.0.0). But changelog and documentation are unable to load at moment.

sudden yarrow
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No Zigpy, ZHA or trigger errors in the log after host reboot.

mellow geode
thorn nebula
#

So I've migrated from a HUSBZB-1 to a Sonoff ZBDongle-P via the ZHA migrate radio button. While it seems that I have control over all of the stuff that I had paired, I cant pair anything else to the new radio. Also on restart ZHA will fail to start and I will have to migrate the radio each time I reboot. Anyone have any suggestions?

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I do still have the HUSBZB-1 plugged in as I am still using the zwave side of it until tomorrow when I should swap to a Zooz 800 series USB hub.

deep zinc
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I had issues today switching zigbee modules while the old one was still attached. Not sure it was related, but finally removing it and rebooting my pi fixed it. Can't wait to get migrated away from the pi.

lucid coyote
#

guys, just got a zigbee device (using ZS3L) and they included tuya docs, that mentions Tuya smart app. Does that mean that an HA setup with SkyConnect wont work unless there is some pairing method option on device to connect to my HA? Is it possible some devices with ZS3L only work with tuya hub and their app and not HA?

sour shadow
#

No, it means that they want you to buy into their ecosystem

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All manufacturers do that

lucid coyote
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so that means I need to find a way to get it into pairing mode or how you suggest i get HA connected to it? btw: this device has no ecosystem, as its a plumbing device with a ZS3L module to it.

sour shadow
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Yup, the docs should tell you how to put it into pairing mode, since that's needed for their own hub

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Ecosystem in this case means Tuya 😉

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Pretty much every Zigbee device will work with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT - at worst you need to put a little work in creating a Quirk or Converter

shrewd lava
twin pond
#

Hello
After I SSD crash on my YELLOW I have problems to re-recognize my ZHA-Integration (using the built in radio).
On the #yellow-archived channel we had not found a solution yet.
When I reconfigure the Settings to "socket://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999" I get a "connection failed"

delicate gale
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Hello guys. Im having trouble with my new skyconnect. I read that its just plugnplay. But it doesnt show up in the integrations tab. Anyone got any ideas why?

sour shadow
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What is it plugged into?

delicate gale
#

Ubuntu Linux. With 3.0usb with extension cord

plucky badger
#

Is there a good zigbee speaker? I just got a unifi doorbell and their chime is out

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I was going to use the speaker as a doorbell

sour shadow
sour shadow
bright nebula
#

hi! just checking, a skyconnect connected to a usb2 port using a usb3 extension cable, would work fine right?

bright nebula
#

any recommendation for a USB2 hub that could host skyconnect, aoetec zwave, and bluetooth usb keys?

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preferably non-powered

lucid coyote
#

whats the best way to see a list of features or entities or X a zigbee device is capable of, from within HA? Tips appreciated.

delicate gale
plucky badger
#

If so what would be recommended?

sour shadow
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DIY?

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Sure, if you have the skills

olive flume
#

just migrated to a yellow and trying to repair my zigbee devices into z2mqtt - they almost never show up during permit join, and if they do i'm getting "interview failed"

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not really sure what to try next

sour shadow
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Are you starting with the router devices nearest the Yellow?

olive flume
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the one i'm trying to pair at the moment is plugged into a power strip literally 1 foot away from the yellow

sour shadow
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That should be fine then...

olive flume
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holy crap i think i found the issue

sour shadow
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Oh?

olive flume
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i think my older sonoff dongle was causing interference - despite being attached to a machine with a disabled VM

sour shadow
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If it was powered on, it was working

olive flume
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yeah - i'm surprised that was an issue after disabling VM and factory resetting the device

plucky badger
paper comet
#

Hi all, I'm new to HA and zigbee and have some devices that need quirks and I'm not able to figure out how to add custom quirks and add the zha quirks from pypi, can anyone help by pointing out any clear guide to do so?

tropic depot
#

the ones from pypi are already there by default

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nothing for you to do

valid crane
#

Hello Someone conect Aqara A100 Zigbee with HA ?

dull bramble
#

Is someone aware of a zigbee lock that is able to turn an EXISTING apartment door handle?

opaque helm
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i just realized that my potential sponsor got only zigbee end-devices and no routers.... Sadge

dull bramble
opaque helm
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I got a meeting with a company tomorrow for my "smart house" project...

dull bramble
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What's the project?

opaque helm
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im youtuber, so I try to get sponsors for my projects

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smart house... transforming normal dumb house into smart one

sour shadow
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Zigbee plugs are cheap enough

opaque helm
#

smart switches, sensors...

dull bramble
opaque helm
opaque helm
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i wanted to have switches as repeaters

dull bramble
opaque helm
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the whole project kinda falls apart if I talk to them and get only end-devices for the house

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the other potential sponsor that asked over email "we are interested, what u need and how many" got literally everything I need aka all Aqara devices... i replied them info for a "perfect house" with a few sentences... and im hoping to get a green light

sour shadow
opaque helm
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true... let me just go from 10 bucks to -100 on my bank account LUL

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We will see, if I get something I will def buy a few

dull bramble
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Yeah, I refuse to help someone infest youtube with more ads for profit.

fair mountain
#

Are the Sonoff Door and Window sensors "sticky" like the Xiaomi ones? I'm fed up with Xiaomi and want to find something that doesn't constantly drop off the network.

mellow geode
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Xiaomi devices shouldn't drop off the network though. Are you turning the power for the routers/parents off?

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Or do you have some incompatible router devices on your network maybe?

rustic citrus
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Anyone know zigbee light switch that does 3 way with traditional switch?

lucid coyote
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is there some way to get a list of all features from a zigbee device somehow via HA, even via CLI maybe?

sick ridge
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Hi, I want to get rid of my automations just for light control with smart switches and lights and use the onoff binding instead. Now I have two problems with my switches: I use in some cases the ikea shortcut button to toggle the light. Is there a way to use some binding? At the moment the binding turn the light on, but not off

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the other issue concerns my hue wall switch modules. I use them as a two push button config. I see no possibility to bind a light to one specific button and there I will face the same issue that I need to toggle the lights

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background is, that I'm hoping to harden my zigbee setup to issues in home assistant (like a long boot up time after a powerloss and not be able to turn on the lights)

drowsy goblet
naive summit
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Finally got my Tuya mmWave presence sensor (went with the wall version). It’s really nice!

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Great having short fade times and more consistent presence detection when I’m sitting still. Lux sensor is useless though.

fair mountain
rustic citrus
naive summit
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My understanding is that some of the Xiaomi edge devices have standards breaking timeouts, which causes some routers to drop them.

naive summit
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Literally never had an issue.

fair mountain
naive summit
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I've decided to stop using them too

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Although the door sensors I have are pretty good?

glossy narwhal
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I have a bunch of Aqara door and climate sensors, admittedly I've only had them a month or so but I've not had any drop off yet. ZHA with SkyConnect

drowsy goblet
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How would you guys debug this... z2m addon, sonoff P dongle, ~45 devices with nearly all of them being Inovelli Blue (not from bad batch) and Hue bulbs of various types. Everything was working perfectly. I've added a few more bulbs and Hue dimmers (migrating from Hue hub to z2m) and at around 48-50 devices it got difficult to pair, and now at 52 devices I really can't get anything to pair at all.

If I eject and re-pair a devices a few times it will eventually show up as paired, but as Unavailable in z2m, and although the buttons work perfectly, nothing is able to bind

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so my Hue dimmer which was paired a moment ago is now failing to pair, showing as Unsupported, red triangle. If I eject and try again maybe it will pair maybe not.

sour shadow
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What version of the coordinator firmware?

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What version of Z2M?

drowsy goblet
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Let me check, it's currently loading z2m topology map

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Zigbee2MQTT version -> 1.30.2 commit: unknown
Coordinator type -> zStack3x0
Coordinator revision -> 20220219
Frontend version -> 0.6.125

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functionality wise, from HA I can turn on and off pretty much anything without delay

#

everything seems to be working, I just can't seem to pair or bind new devices

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I got it to pair, and if I use an HA automation to turn on and off the lights it will work, but if I try to bind to a light group in z2m I get errors like 2023-03-10 13:07:53Failed to setup reporting for 'Light_LivingRoom/11' cluster 'genOnOff'

midnight forum
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Anyone know of a zigbee led controller that can dim very low?

pseudo gazelle
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My zigbee aquara motion sensor pairs with my home assistant but doesnt do anything else. I have tested with both ZHA and zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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What (Zigbee) router is it connected to?

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Indeed, do you have any Zigbee routers?

pseudo gazelle
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I have the Sonoff CC2652P

sour shadow
#

And any Zigbee routers, or just that coordinator and the sensor?

pseudo gazelle
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just that coordinator and the sensor

sour shadow
#

And how far away is the sensor?

pseudo gazelle
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1 meter

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no, 50 cm

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It isn't a range issue

sour shadow
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Did you pick a Zigbee channel, and if so did you check for WiFi interference?

pseudo gazelle
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I havent messed around with channels that much as I'm quite new, the wifi interference I would say is "the actual worst it could possibly be"

sour shadow
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Did you at least put the coordinator on a USB extension cable?

pseudo gazelle
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it is 20cm from a mesh ap and HA itself is its own ap

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no

sour shadow
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Well... you've gone and make a bunch of the worst possible choices then

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I'm not surprised it's not working

pseudo gazelle
#

yup

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Is zigbee that sensitive?

sour shadow
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Yes

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Zigbee is low power

pseudo gazelle
#

I've used zigbee fine with another device though

sour shadow
#
  1. Extension cable
  2. Move it all away from WiFi/Bluetooth
  3. Pick a channel once you know your environment
pseudo gazelle
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what usb revision does most zigbee dongles require?

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is it 2.0?

sour shadow
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1.0 or higher

pseudo gazelle
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Okay i extended it to like 30 cm away from the pi. that may be at least somewhat better?

sour shadow
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Should be, assuming you've moved it away from your WiFi and you've picked a sane channel

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If you're using the same frequencies as WiFi then it's still gonna be fucked

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Channels matter... a lot

pseudo gazelle
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How would I know what channels to use? wifi checker app?

sour shadow
#

Yup

carmine hamlet
sour shadow
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(and all the pinned messages)

carmine hamlet
#

the environment in that energy scan link is truly frightening

pseudo gazelle
#

oh thanks to both

carmine hamlet
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Abandon all hope...

sour shadow
austere patio
pseudo gazelle
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And how do i get pip on ha?

austere patio
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You should enter the Docker container (after disabling ZHA or Z2M): docker exec -it /bin/bash

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Hmm, no, that's the wrong command. This one: docker exec -it homeassistant bash

pseudo gazelle
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Well I'm kind of a newbeginner here btw

austere patio
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It's a hack, you shouldn't be doing it to begin with, it's just convenient since you don't need a second computer

pseudo gazelle
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Okay how long am I supposed to wait for inSSIDer?

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aight channel 4-11 is quite occupied, so I should switch to channel 15 for my zigbee?

sour shadow
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WiFi channel numbers and Zigbee channel numbers are different

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If you're seeing WiFi on 4 then Zigbee 15 is likely to be a terrible choice

pseudo gazelle
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Im seeing wifi on 1-12

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Well 4-12 are seeing like peak usage

sour shadow
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Then Zigbee 11 may be your least bad option

pseudo gazelle
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those are the channels at least

#

should I just bump up the transmission power on the zigbee dongle to 20db?

sour shadow
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That's unlikely to really help

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Making it easier for devices to hear it doesn't help the devices respond

pseudo gazelle
#

Alright but anyway I don't think thats the problem with my zigbee device

austere patio
#

Did you try changing its battery?

pseudo gazelle
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yup

austere patio
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The WiFI analyzers aren't all that useful when compared to what the radio itself sees, since your noise could be caused by something other than WiFi. I suggest you try the zigpy-cli tool (follow basic Python installation instructions here, they're for any platform: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy-znp/blob/dev/TOOLS.md#installation). If you have an older generation Aqara motion sensor, it has zero software configuration: it just connects and sends data. If that doesn't work, either the sensor's battery is dead, it's in a place where it can't send, or the coordinator is in a place where it can't hear the weak signal.

pseudo gazelle
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well i bought the sensor new yesterday so i dont think its the old version. the sensor is also 50cm away from the coordinator

loud bobcat
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need some advice. i added some more devices to my zigbee network tonight. home qassistant. z2m. sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle-p... and now it's basically pooped its pants into oblivion. i'm getting reams of things like

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warn 2023-03-10 22:15:11: Failed to ping '0_utility_2' (attempt 1/1, Read 0x9035eafffe245039/1 genBasic(["zclVersion"], {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":true,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (Data request failed with error: 'No network route' (205)))

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I can't go into pairing mode... oh wait.... now i can

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aaah ok - got into permit join mode and now... im back to my favorite error

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error 2023-03-10 22:23:45: Failed to read state of '0_kitchen_back_wall_1' after reconnect (Read 0x9035eafffe641a85/1 genOnOff(["onOff"], {"sendWhen":"immediate","timeout":10000,"disableResponse":false,"disableRecovery":false,"disableDefaultResponse":true,"direction":0,"srcEndpoint":null,"reservedBits":0,"manufacturerCode":null,"transactionSequenceNumber":null,"writeUndiv":false}) failed (SRSP - AF - dataRequest after 6000ms))

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what can be causing this and... how on earth do i fix it?

austere patio
pseudo gazelle
bronze abyss
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How would I find the path to a sonoff 3.0 usb dongle plus? It is not automatically detected in HA and when I try to install the device it asks for a path to the device but I can't find it.

austere patio
austere patio
bronze abyss
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It runs under windows 11 hyper-v.

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Side not. Skyconnect has same issue

austere patio
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I don't believe Hyper-V supports USB passthrough for arbitrary devices

bronze abyss
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What do you recommend then?

austere patio
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Use some other VM software, or use network-connected Zigbee coordinator (e.g. ser2net with a pi, something similar for Windows, or buy a pre-made one), or use some remote USB redirection program to pass it through. Not sure how the last option would work with HA OS, if at all.

bronze abyss
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Ok Thanks

pseudo gazelle
#

what can I do about it then?

austere patio
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Try new batteries and use a longer extension cable to move the coordinator further away from interference. Run an energy scan from the coordinator to find the best channel.

regal pumice
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Heya my Tubes Conductor arrived 🎉😊

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Very well made, excited to play around with it and such... once I figure out why my server kicked the bucket that is. 💀

hybrid cloud
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hi, i just switched over from the sonoff zigbee stick to the skyconnect, i used the build in zha migration, and the new skyconnect detects all my devices and read attributes just fine but it seems unable to issue commands to any zigbee devices successfully, same thing when i removed and readded a device, anyone have any tips or suggestions on what i can do

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getting a lot of this Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>

mellow geode
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Is it on a USB extension?

hybrid cloud
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yep, setup is the same as my old one, just swapped it out on the same extension after the migration

drowsy goblet
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Is there a trick to binding hue dimmer switches to a z2m group of lights? I could have sworn I had it working on/off/dimmer before, but after messing with some things, I have it bound to the group but it does nothing. I have to use an HA automation to detect on/off and control the group which works but doesn't do dimming

hybrid cloud
# hybrid cloud yep, setup is the same as my old one, just swapped it out on the same extension ...

not sure if this has anything to do with it but i get this error when i reload the integratoni

2023-03-10 21:52:28.221 DEBUG (MainThread) [bellows.zigbee.application] ezsp_counters: [MAC_RX_BROADCAST = 0, MAC_TX_BROADCAST = 55, MAC_RX_UNICAST = 0, MAC_TX_UNICAST_SUCCESS = 0, MAC_TX_UNICAST_RETRY = 0, MAC_TX_UNICAST_FAILED = 0, APS_DATA_RX_BROADCAST = 1, APS_DATA_TX_BROADCAST = 1, APS_DATA_RX_UNICAST = 4, APS_DATA_TX_UNICAST_SUCCESS = 2, APS_DATA_TX_UNICAST_RETRY = 0, APS_DATA_TX_UNICAST_FAILED = 61, ROUTE_DISCOVERY_INITIATED = 12, NEIGHBOR_ADDED = 0, NEIGHBOR_REMOVED = 0, NEIGHBOR_STALE = 0, JOIN_INDICATION = 0, CHILD_REMOVED = 0, ASH_OVERFLOW_ERROR = 0, ASH_FRAMING_ERROR = 0, ASH_OVERRUN_ERROR = 0, NWK_FRAME_COUNTER_FAILURE = 0, APS_FRAME_COUNTER_FAILURE = 0, UTILITY = 0, APS_LINK_KEY_NOT_AUTHORIZED = 0, NWK_DECRYPTION_FAILURE = 0, APS_DECRYPTION_FAILURE = 0, ALLOCATE_PACKET_BUFFER_FAILURE = 0, RELAYED_UNICAST = 0, PHY_TO_MAC_QUEUE_LIMIT_REACHED = 0, PACKET_VALIDATE_LIBRARY_DROPPED_COUNT = 0, TYPE_NWK_RETRY_OVERFLOW = 0, PHY_CCA_FAIL_COUNT = 55, BROADCAST_TABLE_FULL = 0, PTA_LO_PRI_REQUESTED = 0, PTA_HI_PRI_REQUESTED = 0, PTA_LO_PRI_DENIED = 0, PTA_HI_PRI_DENIED = 0, PTA_LO_PRI_TX_ABORTED = 0, PTA_HI_PRI_TX_ABORTED = 0, ADDRESS_CONFLICT_SENT = 0, EZSP_FREE_BUFFERS = 251]```
mellow geode
hybrid cloud
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yeah so i guess my brand new skyconnect just isnt worki ng

molten linden
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PHY_CCA_FAIL_COUNT = 55,

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that's interference

naive summit
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Time to pick a new channel.

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That is one of the more annoying aspects of homelab; everything is on 2.4ghz it seems.

regal bluff
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Having received the Skyconnect, I moved from my Deconz Network running on the Conbee II Stick to ZHA with the Skyconnect. All devices paired correctly. However I am having issues with the IKEA Shortcut buttons. They can be paired, but I do not get the zha_events. I wasn't able to find a solution regarding this issue unitl now ... :/
Reconfiguration of the button after pairing fails.

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I have this as part of my configatuion.yaml

  zigpy_config:
    ota:
      otau_directory: /config/zigpy_ota
      ikea_provider: true
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Oh surprise the reconfiguration worked, after leaving the button alone for some time o.O
Now I am getting too many events 😄
One short button press gives me 5 "on" events o.O

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Long press gives me 2 pressed (move_with_on_off) and 5 release (stop_with_on_off) events ...

hybrid cloud
# molten linden that's interference

how can i fix this? i have the device plugged into ane xtension cable in the same conditions as my old one, yet this one refuses to issue commands 100% of the time

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switching back to the old zigbee coordinator it works perfectly fine

molten linden
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What is the old one? Maybe try a different cable. I was just reporting what I saw in the counter as I don’t think it is obvious.

hybrid cloud
#

old one was a sonoff zigbee coordinator. i tried switching the extension cable to the one provided with the skyconnect and i still get the same error

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after doing some messing around i guess the antenna in this one is just significantly weaker than the sonoff one. moving it just 3 or so feet away completely cleared up all of my issues

drowsy goblet
oak pike
#

my beautiful new skyconnect stick is here. Super excited to see if this improves on things beyond the old nortek combo stick I was using with delayed responses...

white aurora
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I'm running HAOS in a VM on a Windows 10 system using VirtualBox, and every time the host system restarts, I need to uninstall the Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB dongle from the host system in Device Manager, then I have to go into the VM settings and delete the previous entried for the dongle and add it back, then start the VM up. Then HA sees it no problem. Does anyone have a solution where I don't have to go through this every time?

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It's set up for Zigbee2mqtt

hearty night
#

is there anything I would need to do if I were to swap out a USB zigbee stick for another of the same kind?

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it's connecting on the same port, /dev/ttyUSB0, but I'm not able to control devices through it

naive summit
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The wall one uses USB.

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Are the mains powered ones certified by anyone?

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Honestly, just more familiar with 120v wiring than in wall DC.

naive summit
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I’ll have to do more research.

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The other thing that’s holding me back is pets. Top down seems like it’ll go off a lot for non humans.

steady zodiac
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i'm having an issue with Z2M. I just migrated from a RPi4 to a Mini PC, cutover went fine but when I go to Z2M I get an error that reads "Add-on is not running. Please start it first". Thing is, my Zigbee devices are functioning. Log is showing events from devices.

naive summit
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The USB model is identical electrically.

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They’re actually the same modules inside. The main difference is how they’re mounted.

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The advantage of a wall mount is it’s easier to physically exclude pets from the field of view.

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Good to know that that’s easy to do.

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Neat!

carmine hamlet
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Good thing that cats only ever walk on the floor 🙂

naive summit
#

I see your point about distribution boxes. Those little 12V boxes for CCTV look way safer to use.

naive summit
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I’m sure they have rated ones.

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Also, my attic has a solar fan. So the temps don’t get as obscene up there.

topaz seal
#

Especially the one with the

2023-03-12 10:14:17.807 ERROR (MainThread) [zigpy.device] Failed to parse message (b'03840250') on cluster 32799, because Data is too short to contain 1 bytes
hearty night
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I'm trying to get a virtual machine setup working where HA can migrate between machines with different zigbee USB dongles. Configuring ZHA for /dev/ttyUSB0, HA is able to communicate with each USB coordinator after migrating between machines but I am only able to control devices on the physical machine with the original USB dongle that the zigbee network was setup on

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this seems like a scenario similar to if I were to replace a zigbee dongle with another dongle of the same type, so not sure how that typically works

quartz flume
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Hey, so i have a cc2652 zigbee usb stick, and had several problems with my network, idk if its the router, the points, the network overwhelmed with data, well, idk what is the problem.

Right now, i have improved moving to a more robust host, but its not how its suposed to be.

Im using zigbee2mqtt.

Regardless, my question is, what is the options you guys are using to run zigbee with HA right now? Maybe the new homeassistant thread/zigbee addon?

hearty night
#

only difference I can see is that original USB dongle is still powered

naive summit
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Devices cannot switch between coordinators without going through a pairing cycle.

hearty night
#

so the result of that pairing is not software only, there are hardware depencencies?

naive summit
naive summit
quartz flume
# naive summit Z2M is the slight favorite.

With that in mind, is there any way to see what could be making the devices in my network stop comunicating or responding? I have + - 30 and everyday at least one has to be reconnected

hearty night
naive summit
quartz flume
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No, i have nothing certain

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I just know that everyday at least a device has problems and reconnect it solves it

naive summit
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Same devices each time?

quartz flume
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No, it changes

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it can be any of the 30

naive summit
#

Check your wifi frequencies. Zigbee and wifi overlap.

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You might have an interference issue, which can be solved by adjusting both so they’re far apart.

quartz flume
#

Can i change the zigbee channel easy?

naive summit
#

No.

quartz flume
#

f...

naive summit
#

It requires repairing iirc.

#

Start with the wifi.

quartz flume
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Yea, if its the wifi, its the neighbours

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Just 999999 wifi networks visible right now

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and i have changed the network

naive summit
#

Do you have enough router devices?

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Even the nicer coordinators can’t handle more than like, 20 or so direct connections.

quartz flume
#

I think so, more than half of the devices are routers

naive summit
#

That should be fine.

naive summit
#

You just can’t set up two coordinators and expect the devices to migrate. You have to shut down Z2M or whatever on device A, move the dongle and config to device B, turn it on, and wait for the network to heal.

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(In theory that works for Thread though)

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“Please note that there are routers of mediocre quality that might not harmonize well with your network (for example, some versions of the SONOFF Smart Plug S26R2ZBopen in new window are known to be limitedopen in new window). This may yield in message routing errors. In case you have such devices in your network, it might help to add additional routers of better quality and bind your devices to these routers (re-pairing devices with “Permit join” restricted to the new/better router) to improve the overall network performance.”

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I would also try a USB extension cable for the adapté @quartz flume. That’s a really common solution. Because know what also shares a frequency with Zigbee? USB 3

quartz flume
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Yes, i have one alread

naive summit
#

Damn. There goes an easy fix.

quartz flume
#

Is just strange, some time the nodejs of the z2m just breaks and the docker has to restart

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And i know everytime that happens becose my lights turnoff

naive summit
#

Okay, that’s unusual.

quartz flume
#

But when i came to look into the logs theres nothing strange there, or the problem is not there anymore

naive summit
#

That points towards a software issue and not a network one.

#

Memory exhaustion?

quartz flume
#

That was happening more as a HA addon, but still hasppens as a docker container in my home server

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Yes, that is my guess, memory limitations

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almost buyng a kit in aliexpress with 64 gb memory, my servers are at its limits

naive summit
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Turn the log up to debug levels?

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Z2M doesn’t use that much memory.

mellow geode
quartz flume
#

Yes, i have, but nothing appears, some time a message gets a timeout

naive summit
#

That’s fairly normal.

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Shouldn’t crash Z2M.

quartz flume
#

and after that i have to repair the devices to the network

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Because after that the device wont respond anymore

#

usually i just wait a couple days to see if it repairs it self

naive summit
#

Seems like you have two issues. They might not be related.

quartz flume
#

I think i have more than just one problem here. I

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One may be the lack of memory

naive summit
#

Gimme a minute, I’ll check how much memory Z2M is asking.

quartz flume
#

The other may be a device which is a router with problem

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For example, theres this motion sensor (which is not a router) he is strange behaiving, he perceives we, and after a minute he reports as no motion, even if someone is waving in front of the sensor, then we have to stop the motion, give a sec, and wave again.

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No ideia why, have been testing, one theory was a mirror in front of it, but isnt that, i gues its just a fault device.

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But that made me think, maybe i have others with problems messing with my network

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i have like 6 or more

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its the sonoff one those cheap ones

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Yep hahah its just this one

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if detect motion he stays as on for 1 min after the last dettection.

But this one just reports off after 1 min is REALY strange

naive summit
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That’d be my guess.

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Some of these cheap zigbee devices are just bad.

#

I’ve given up on all my Xiaomi motion sensors. They all suck.

#

Got a Tuya USB powered one instead. Way better.

quartz flume
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I would love to day, but those things are just tooooooo expensive for where i live. I have to import them and still is expensive

naive summit
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I’d focus on the software side first. If Z2M is hitting resource constraints that might cause god knows what kinda weirdness.

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Update it to the latest, etc.

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That being said I used to run HA, Z2M, frigate, and a few other things on like 16gb. It’s not that memory hungry.

quartz flume
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The import is 0, but the product price is still right

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But i have to say. Its way cheap than anything i have seen so far, is like 2 of the sonoff

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Well, 4 when the price is updated

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its 134 BRL instead of 30 - 39

naive summit
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Slightly different version, same cost.

quartz flume
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Yea, the gateway is cheaper, but this sensor seems lit, have been looking for a solution for the bed

naive summit
quartz flume
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Its like 4 times a price of a sonoff sensor

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maybe more

#

Yea agree, its time to start using better devices, but after i upgrade my home server, its claming for more ram

naive summit
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Z2M is using 80mb at the moment and 0.001vcpu.

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It's not a resource hungry service.

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I have 33 devices

quartz flume
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16gb, but frigate is using a lot of it

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also have a mongodb (nothing serious) and plex in this server

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for the VM using the services i have alocated 6gb the rest is in the truenas

naive summit
#

How much is currently free?

quartz flume
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0

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Most is in system cash (frigate) but 0

naive summit
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Lol, yeah. That’s probably your issue.

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Oh, system cache? Hmm.

#

Try turning off plex for a while and see if it works better?

quartz flume
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Yea, the yellow bar in the htop

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let me docker stats to see what is using what

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plex uses the least of my resources

#

is just 360p videos

naive summit
#

It also feels like the one you could leave off for a week.

quartz flume
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nop

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is the more used one haha

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besides zigbee

#

Here is the docker stats

a98ffcbb0dea   zigbee2mqtt             0.76%     82.51MiB / 5.802GiB   1.39%     641kB / 1.72MB    58.3MB / 0B       12
1bdfed3e4f2c   transmission            15.44%    237.7MiB / 5.802GiB   4.00%     11.5GB / 73.8GB   143MB / 20.9MB    27
727ffeb2891a   nginx                   0.04%     72.57MiB / 5.802GiB   1.22%     73.4GB / 73.7GB   8.33GB / 144MB    22
ee1fca726f2b   cloudflared             0.43%     34.48MiB / 5.802GiB   0.58%     73.7GB / 77.6GB   139MB / 3.88MB    11
9c198a56f58e   tools-api               0.00%     46.45MiB / 5.802GiB   0.78%     280MB / 68.5MB    171MB / 16.7MB    11
05d78e4a0f40   frigate                 33.95%    467.6MiB / 5.802GiB   7.87%     419GB / 79.5GB    9.57GB / 80.3GB   293
0a184b784c08   arcode-api              0.00%     73.32MiB / 5.802GiB   1.23%     468MB / 260MB     125MB / 32.9MB    11
0449abfbc0c8   web-ide                 0.25%     140.3MiB / 5.802GiB   2.36%     103MB / 89.7MB    491MB / 48.5MB    47
e1ffc14ff4e8   plex                    9.13%     73.88MiB / 1.953GiB   3.69%     0B / 0B           24.3GB / 29.8GB   52
2647f7d15685   pihole                  0.04%     21.48MiB / 5.802GiB   0.36%     135MB / 6.03MB    24GB / 343MB      31
1780a31d5ce2   mongo-mongo-express-1   0.05%     21.67MiB / 5.802GiB   0.36%     297MB / 144MB     95MB / 36.4MB     12
924e482f3f48   minidlna                0.00%     9.828MiB / 5.802GiB   0.17%     0B / 0B           4.23GB / 29.6MB   3
ec536e3b2658   mongo                   0.38%     78.34MiB / 5.802GiB   1.32%     324MB / 564MB     161MB / 76.7MB    56```
naive summit
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System cache in theory shouldn’t be an issue. It can get evicted if any tenant asks for more.

quartz flume
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My torrent client is always a problem, it just uses as much ram as i allow, no ideia why, and should not be like that

naive summit
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I think Z2M is getting enough memory.

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Try updating.

quartz flume
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It was in the last version haha

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Cant post the htop because of images limitations of the server,

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but my swap is almost 100% used

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Im using a 2060 super for GPU

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also have a 700w 80plus for power supply

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Im reasearching that right now, but couldnt find the iddle usage

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I just do not want to rescale it in the next 5 years

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My current serve has like 8 months and i reached its limitations and not even put all the services i want, even my frigate isnt using AI yet because of memory limitations

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Thats not a lot

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Well, is more than a rpi 3

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but i pretend it to be a router, a ha host, and much more which i will not spend in cloud server

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its about 50 BRL monthly

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That would be a small house billing with almost no eletronics in it, just the basic, but i spend more than that because of air conditionign and working from home, so, i think is fair

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Well i would love another input, what do you think?

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I hgave plans to expand on the services i have, but any input of someone which understand this kinda stuff is appreciated

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We pay 4x to 8x times what it costs in brazil, so that has to come from aliexpress, and consumer hardware in ali is not confiable

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Thats the real reason to go x99+old server hardware

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That hardware you said would cost like 12.000 brl to more here

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Always has been like that here :/

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I see, i will think about that, and how to explain to wife why i HAVE to spend more 2000 brls in server

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hahah yea

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hey thanks for the insights, always good to share ideias!

weak oak
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Hi, i'm using zigbee2mqtt with a Sonoff "E" now, but I have bought a Sonoff "P" also (and i have a SkyConnect)
Should I switch from "E" to "P"?
Continiue to use E, and use P as a extender?
I think my E is working fine with z2m, but I don't know if the P is more stable or faster?
I'm sorry for alle the questions but I am just really insecure about this

lilac wharf
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Since support for the E in zigbee2mqtt is experimental and the P is well-supported, it's probably a good idea to switch to the P, but you would need to re-pair all devices

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If you aren't experiencing issues though, you could keep things as is

weak oak
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yeah, that is a big job

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yeah,the thing is that I don't know if it should be faster or better in some way. Big FOMO here

lilac wharf
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Faster, no. More stable, probably. Again though, if you're not having issues then I'd say keep things as is

naive summit
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Generally not much is going to make Zigbee "faster"

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It's a very low throughput protocol by design, and a lot of the limitations are on the device end on how ofter they check in.

molten linden
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could use zigpy-cli to migrate the radio settings from E to the P, update z2m config and remove ezsp line and would think it should start okay.

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and no need to re-pair devices

naive summit
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Huh. Til.

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Still, I think the general advice with these things is “if it’s working, don’t mess with it”

lilac wharf
molten linden
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It’s same thing HA uses for inbuilt radio migrations

lilac wharf
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Makes sense

weak oak
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oh no!

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restore won't work

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any ideas guys?

molten linden
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looks like it can't talk to the port

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Be sure the port is correct, and maybe reflash it.

quartz flume
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So, this error is normal? Failed to configure 'presença banheiro 2', attempt 2 (Error: Bind 0x00124b0023420f5d/1 genPowerCfg from '0x00124b00238d84bd/1' failed (AREQ - ZDO - bindRsp after 10000ms) at Timeout._onTimeout

heavy mist
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Okay all you HA gurus:
I have a SkyConnect. Something's not working quite right. Devices connect, and immediately can't connect anymore. Just ordered a Sonoff Zigbee bridge - gunna flash with Tasmota. The instructions I've read so far say to use that with Z2M, but I already have ZHA installed due to my Skyconnect.

sour shadow
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The ZBbridge is ... crap

heavy mist
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Is it a bad idea to run both ZHA and Z2M?

sour shadow
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Running two meshes is often a source of pain

heavy mist
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Well, I can't get the SkyConnect to work.

sour shadow
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For Z2M buy something CC2652 based

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The ZBBridge has major issues

heavy mist
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Does ZHA support ZBBridge?

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Like what?

sour shadow
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ZHA does

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The problem is that WiFi + Zigbee is pain

heavy mist
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I'm out of USB ports on my HA device, so I need a WiFi to Zigbee adapter.

sour shadow
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Plus EZSP, which that is, has stability issues when the bridge is WiFi connected

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You'll be a lot better off with an ethernet connected one

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Unless you want more problems

heavy mist
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Well, my router and my HA machine are less than 3 feet from each other, which I think is the issue I'm having with the SkyConnect.

#

My home isn't wired for ethernet.

sour shadow
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If you've got the SkyConnect on a USB extension cable you can move it away from the router

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Your router... it has ethernet ports?

heavy mist
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Landlord won't let me run ethernet through the walls.

sour shadow
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If not, buy a switch. Just don't use a WiFi connected Zigbee bridge and expect it to be stable

heavy mist
sour shadow
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So... stick it to the wall?

heavy mist
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I don't want to put stuff in cabinets.

sour shadow
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Well... then you can expect stability problems... have fun

heavy mist
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No tape, nails or screws in the walls allowed.

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I know. Thanks for the vote of confidence.

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I figure, I have nowhere to go but up at this point.

naive summit
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Just use one of those removable 3m strips.

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They dont mark the walls.

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Also every single lease I’ve ever signed said no holes and I have never, ever followed that.

heavy mist
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It's a bit different here though. Landlord is my Dad...

naive summit
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Oh, come on. No pictures on the wall for their kid?

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That’s a little much. Is it drywall or plaster and lath?

heavy mist
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I don't like pictures.

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I believe drywall. not really sure

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I can and have asked hime to make modifications. He's fine with it as long as they aren't major, and he doesn't have to spend much time with it.

naive summit
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Drywall is easier to patch. No holes on plaster and lath is much more reasonable.

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Ask if you can use command strips.

heavy mist
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He does the mods himself though.

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Not sure what are command strips.

sour shadow
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Google has the answer 😉

heavy mist
sour shadow
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Well, sometimes it has more questions

heavy mist
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Google asks questions now?? I thought that was just my Alexa when it wants to be nosey.

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For the record: Alexa has been unplugged for the last year for that very reason...

heavy mist
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Photos of my messy setup.

hearty night
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if I have a separate raspberry pi with a zigbee device, what is the recommended way of connecting that to HA over the local network ?

young onyx
naive summit
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I mean, is it a wonder why your dad doesn’t want you doing any modifications of any type ever? He’s seen your work.

deep zinc
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I am currently in the process of getting all of this cleaned up but it's a slow process.

round elbow
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Hello All, forgive me if this is in the incorrect area, it's to do with zigbee2mqtt and default entities exposed to home assistant
voltage: {
device_class: 'voltage',
enabled_by_default: false,
entity_category: 'diagnostic',
state_class: 'measurement',
}
how can I update zigbee2mqtt to automatically expose the above entity i.e. override the default as above?
I've several power monitoring devices and I'd like the voltage & current automatically exposed, I know I can go into home assistant and enable them but this crashes the system for some reason

tulip patrol
strong mason
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I think I'm about ready to give up on the E1744 symfonisk remotes. There's no amount of debouncing and processing in nodered that can get them to work reliably without being unbearably laggy if you look at them wrong.

loud bobcat
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so zigbee2mqtt doesn't start ... bujt it also produces no logs... it appears to start - like the web ui shows some cpu % then .. it doesnt update anymore... i reload and its not running... i see no logs in the log dir at all.. how can i figure out why?

ashen bluff
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You could check the addon/docker logs

loud bobcat
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wierd.. log didnt appear in files but eventually ui shows invalid config

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because i enbled retention

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then disabled .. needed version 5 of protocol

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but it wouldnt write any log..

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by luck that showed up after a while

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i gave up... once i hit about 110-120 devices on my zigbee network it falls part. conbee stick died at about 70-80. sonoff dies at about 110-120. it certainly gets drastically more laggy as i get closet to 100. zigbee just doesn't scale (on one coordinator) even though like 80-90% of my devices are routers...

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time to emply my 2nd ha + zigbee stick to try survive

austere patio
loud bobcat
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it's the plus - so dongle-p. and i'm using z2m - zha is pretty useless unfortunately

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zha if i try and pair like 10 ikea bulbs at once will fail to properly interview 50% of them

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(so missing properties like color temp etc. on some - some missing brightness and so on)

balmy fossil
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Anyone has any experience with Tuya presence detector (mmWave) placed outside? Im just testing mine, and while it works fairly ok indoor, then it goes completely crazy outdoors

sand wedge
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Hi, I am looking to finally make the switch today from ZHA to Z2M (ZHA has been fine, but so many people talk positively on Z2M I feel I should try it).
I am running HASS inside of Docker and looking at these steps: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/02_docker.html

My question - do I need to install this and also another MQTT server such as Mosquitto? Or is installing what I have linked here all I should need?

carmine hamlet
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that link is just for Z2M, you need an actual MQTT broker

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so, yes, you need an MQTT broker such as Mosquitto

sand wedge
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ok perfect thanks

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IS that recommended (It's the one I know by name most) or should I look at others?

carmine hamlet
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it's fine, no need to look further

sand wedge
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🙂

queen galleon
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hello! I’m trying to get Ikea blinds working with HA. It worked, then I tried to sync my blind with the remote, and now it’s in some kind of funky state. Attempting to sync the blind with HA won’t work now; it seems to not be able to find the blind at all. I have another Ikea blind working with HA just fine, so I am wondering if I need to do something to make HA forget this device or something like that. Any thoughts?

short sandal
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I assume you have attempted to reset both? I’ve given up with binding lights (etc) to controls and just use automations…

queen galleon
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if by reset you mean “hold both buttons on the blinds for 10s”, then yes

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I’m not sure how to do the equivalent on the HA side

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in retrospect, it seems that people are using the Ikea buttons as devices to run automations, which seems round about but I can get on board with. Unfortunately I can’t get the blind connected to HA anymore lol

naive summit
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Make sure that you have pairing enabled on the HA side.

loud bobcat
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very odd... z2m has 8 devices... but ha's mqtt integration says 1 device only....

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oooh

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sec

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there. 11 devices

queen galleon
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@naive summit how do you mean? I went to “Add Zigbee Device” and it searches forever

loud bobcat
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ha .. now remote homeassistant works.. for whatevr reason z2m on 2nd ha instant couldnt public to its mosquitto...

naive summit
loud bobcat
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hmmm ok -i see the update enetites but not light. ... is this intended with remote ha?

naive summit
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I’d try two things:

  1. Take the batteries out of the remote, so that the blinds won’t pair with it first.

  2. Pair the USB extender first, then pair the blinds.

queen galleon
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hmm ok. I haven’t even attempted pairing the extender

naive summit
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The extender seems to help a lot.

queen galleon
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ok

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poke extender with a paperclip for 10s?

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seems so. it’s pairing the extender now

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oh wow, now it can find the blind. what the crap

sour shadow
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hmmm ok i see the update enetites but

queen galleon
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so I even tried to take the blind to where HA is to see if it was a range issue, that didn’t help. Getting the extender connected to HA seems to have done it

naive summit
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IKEA blinds are weird. 🤷‍♂️

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I don’t think they’re fully standards compliant, but I think the extenders are.

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That’s my guess.

queen galleon
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ahhhh a reasonable guess

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it has the ZigBee sticker on the box, but it doesn’t say which device is compliant, maybe just the extender haha

naive summit
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Zigbee compliance in general is actually quite poor.

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I think the HA 3.0 compliance sticker means something, but there’s a reason they’re starting over with Thread and Matter.

queen galleon
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there needs to be one unified standard. comes out with new standard

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now there are n+1 standards 😄

loud bobcat
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ok... let's assume i messed up zigbee2mqtt <-> ha integration. z2m itself can see all my zigbee devices.... home assistant now finds all the entities disabled or something...

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how can i just get them glued back together again cleanly?

naive summit
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My understanding, and I’m not an expert here, is that zigbee was designed for developers first, it was never designed to provide a consistent application level for cross manufacturer support.

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They’ve tried to add that after the fact, but everything is kind of a mess because you have decades worth of “we built our own non-complaint system on top of the previous spec” devices around. Thread and Matter seemed designed with cross manufacturer support in mind from the jump, so it might work out better. Or not. Time will tell.

queen galleon
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yeah I’m with ya

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interesting history re: zigbee

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hopefully more iterations will make it better. Does get annoying to have so many competing standards though

naive summit
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I think reconfiguring a device in Z2M will publish a discovery message?

loud bobcat
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i get no error logs in z2m (rep for error doesnt show anything involving mqtt)

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so i assume then #1 is fine

naive summit
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Definitely start with a MQTT explorer.

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Take a look and make sure you see messages there.

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Make sure that HA and Z2M agree on the same MQTT prefix.

loud bobcat
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reconfiguring did nothing

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so my example is one of my lights (entity) is restored - the red ! with a circle around it with an arrow in the circle

naive summit
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Are you sure HA can access MQTT?

loud bobcat
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i don't know actually

naive summit
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The add on auto security thing never worked for me. I manually configured a password.

loud bobcat
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i was messing with auth and user/password trying to bridge mqtt's ...

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(failing it seemed)

naive summit
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That’s probably your issue.

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The actual interface between the two is fairly solid if they have access to the same broker. If they don’t ….

loud bobcat
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but i set up mosquitto addon with a basic mqtt/mqtt user/passwd

naive summit
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Check the HA logs

loud bobcat
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mosquitto?

naive summit
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Restarting HA might be wise, some of these integrations log at the beginning and then give up.

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HA.

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Well, how many brokers do you have?

loud bobcat
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ha core?

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ha! well i wou;ld like my main ha instance to just glue in all the devices z2m publishes on my 2nd ha instance

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(2 physical machines - 2 pi4's)

naive summit
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… wut?

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You have two instances of home assistant?

loud bobcat
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ok. oi have too many zigbee devices for 1 coordinator. i have to split

naive summit
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… that seems unlikely.

loud bobcat
#

every time i get to about 110-120 devices everything falls apart.

naive summit
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What coordinator do you have?

loud bobcat
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the network is getting quite sluggish... and devices vanish offline never to come back.

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right noe sonoff dongle p

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err now

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90% of my devices are routers.

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(bulbs). essentially a whole hows with every downlight is a smart bulb as well as smart themrostats, other smrt dimmers for lamps and so on.

naive summit
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200 seems low for “network overloaded”

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And multiple networks is notorious for causing issues.

#

Can’t speak to the sonoff, but you should absolutely be able to handle 200 devices.

queen galleon
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I thought the whole idea was more devices the merrier; makes better mesh coverage

loud bobcat
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i hit this problem with the conbee stick and it died at about 70-80 devices. i moved to the sonoff and got fruther, now it is kicking the bucket at about 115 or so. i got up to 125 and everything fell apart and i spent an entire day twice now in the past few days fixing it up again only for the same thing to happen again

naive summit
loud bobcat
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well empirically - i'm seeing the same problem repeat every time i try and get my whole home set up. i get to a room where i start adding devices and i'm at about 110-115 then, i get to 120 or so and i then see evices go offline. i see the coordinator get 600ms timeouts and fall over. i see z2m needing to be restarted multiple times.

naive summit
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@molten linden seems to be the zigbee SME here, maybe they can chime in when they’re online.

loud bobcat
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i suspect i just have too many routers - they are like 70% those ikea tradfri gu10's

naive summit
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I’m running a CC2650R with 113 devices no issue.

loud bobcat
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i read that they suck at routing and lose routes. it seems the network collapses at some critical mass as a result

naive summit
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Aside from some Xiaomi devices which are just not good.

sour shadow
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There's a known issue with the (Ikea) firmware in them that causes them to stop routing ISTR

loud bobcat
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that's what i'm seeing - it seems to kick in at some critical mass.

molten linden
#

I only no anecdotally of folks using near 200 devices. without issues.

loud bobcat
#

so i'm basically having to work around this. split into 2 zb nets on different channels - like one on 25 one on 11.

naive summit
#

Can you tell some devices to just pretend to be an end device?

molten linden
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no

loud bobcat
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so i got a 2nd pi4 with another sonoff stick and am trying to glue them together again so i have the master ha instance essentially remote control the 2nd ha instance so i can merge it all into the same lovelace - or that's the plan

#

the ikdea devices have no settings to tell them not to route

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i'd be happy enouhg if they all acted as end devices. i have plenty of others to route with.

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anyway - i was trying remote_homeassistant integration from hacs to try this with

naive summit
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I think that’s probably going about it wrong.