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oak pike
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Is there an easy way to adopt a new coordinator? Last I looked it seemed like the community was all "lol just gotta re-pair everything, have fun"

grim igloo
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it doesnt do well on zigbee or zwave

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that's not accurate

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although maybe true with zwave

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i'm not sure if that stick supports nvm backup/restore for zwave

oak pike
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I have very little zwave devices, and they work fine. Wonder if I can just keep the nortek for zwave and lean on a new zigbee coordinator.

grim igloo
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i wouldnt but w/e

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a new zwave controller is like $30

oak pike
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what's your go-to for zigbee?

grim igloo
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for zha i'd probably suggest the new skyconnect

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or a PoE coordinator if you would do better using one of those in a more central location

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idk about your layout of your house yet

oak pike
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is this the magic button? "Migrate Radio"

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can't paste screenshot in here for some reason

mellow geode
grim igloo
oak pike
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@mellow geode I guess I wasn't sure if the backup/restore was meant to be on the same hardware/coordinator or not, or if it would play nice if I backed up when on nortek then restored on skyconnect and expect it to be happy

grim igloo
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in theory it works perfectly, in practice it depends on the devices

mellow geode
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Nortek (Silabs) to SkyConnect (newer Silabs) should work best

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But you can also migrate to TI

oak pike
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I have the skyconnect tab up for USA store. I guess I should consider a new zwave coordinator as well and see what that looks like as far as available options.

mellow geode
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But your current coordinator should still handle multiple unicast calls just fine

grim igloo
mellow geode
oak pike
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Let me check...

grim igloo
oak pike
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It is not.

grim igloo
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i say kill them with fire

grim igloo
oak pike
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stick is right in the back of that mamma jamma

grim igloo
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is this on a pi or server in a rack or?

mellow geode
# oak pike It is not.

If you have an extension, try putting it on one and then get it away from the server, SSDs, USB 3.0 ports, APs, metal, …

oak pike
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It's on a Dell micro tower. It's standing upright and attached to an inch thick sheet of plywood acting as my small-device-rack.

grim igloo
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cute

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ya my point was escape a rack with the extension if needed

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etc etc as stated above^

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i still stand by my "kill the nortek with fire" comment

oak pike
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is it against rules to paste imgur link here?

grim igloo
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imgur is fine

oak pike
grim igloo
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rip

oak pike
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I'm sure you'll enjoy the number 1 which is holding the tower against the wall

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spare number from our house number kit, lol

grim igloo
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i've never seen someone mount a modem with such care

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usually they put baby in the corner

oak pike
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hahaha, truth

grim igloo
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also yuck modem

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but we cant all choose our parents or our ISP

oak pike
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yeah - she's an oldie

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but still works for the service I get soooo pickin battles elsewhere

grim igloo
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the only coax cable in the entire house here is the one going from a hd antenna to a hd homerun for OTA

oak pike
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would a 3 inch extension be enough? I'm not sure I follow how long would be advised based on the convo so far

grim igloo
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there might be one holding together some crystalized rat shit in the attic under some insulation

oak pike
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figured I could at least add an ext since I have like 12 extensions here of various lengths

grim igloo
oak pike
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bruh

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that's nuts

grim igloo
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brah

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so you have interference from usb 3.x ports mixed with a shit coordinator in a probably poor location in the house

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the trifecta of suck

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if you plan on sticking with zha and want a PoE coordinator that might be a better option than the skyconnect

oak pike
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my network closet is in the basement, but I do have enough zigbee smart plugs nearby that I figured/hoped it would relay through the zigbee routers across the house without issue

grim igloo
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it's using the same chipset

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you can use a PoE injector or PoE switchport to power it and actually put it in a central location

oak pike
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POE coordinator... I do have a POE switch and ethernet ran throughout the house... I could centralize that mamma jamma easily

grim igloo
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yepperz

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that is what i would do in your situation

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instead of everything needing 5 hops minimum or some shit

oak pike
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silly question but in that video, it showed an active device on usb3 (the hdd)

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I have nothing USB'd into the HA micro tower except the nortek

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would that still impact it?

grim igloo
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it's a mixture of things like julian said above

oak pike
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how much would it piss off HA to unplug the nortek, add ext, and plug back in while running?

grim igloo
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If you have an extension, try putting it on one and then get it away from the server, SSDs, USB 3.0 ports, APs, metal,

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it's fine for zwave but idk about zha

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actually i think it's fine for zha too just not z2m

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worst case you reboot i guess

oak pike
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score - 18 inch extension right here in my drawer, brb

mellow geode
molten linden
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Zha can handle the disconnection

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😂

grim igloo
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yeah

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we had this chat like yesterday apparently z2m will freak out

molten linden
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@mellow geode do you sleep?

grim igloo
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i woke him up with a ping i think

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corey, trevor, smokes

molten linden
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It’s like 4am no?

grim igloo
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ah he's in euroland?

carmine hamlet
mellow geode
grim igloo
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what does that workflow look like

molten linden
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Ah I saw your question to the xiaomi OTA guy

mellow geode
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having bricked two E1 door sensors before getting a Xiaomi hub to find out how it changes the update 😄

grim igloo
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soft bricked or boat anchored?

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a tiny tiny boat...

mellow geode
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well. no real way to flash them back that I know of

molten linden
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The e1 use telink?

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Tuya moving to them too (as you know)

mellow geode
# molten linden Ah I saw your question to the xiaomi OTA guy

yeah (https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-OTA/pull/138), I'm somewhat able to fetch OTA updates myself now (the app grabs the updates) but it only gets all updates for what's on the hub.
... and I don't know what the endpoint for adding devices to the "Xiaomi cloud" is, as the hub calls that: https://cdn.aqara.com/cdn/luoshu/mainland/static/image/add-device-en.png ("report subdevice information")
But I can't modify my Aqara hub, as I only have it temporarily

I suspect the endpoint for adding subdevices to the Aqara account is something along the lines of https://aiot-rpc.aqara.cn/app/v1.0/lumi/dev/bind/query (don't think it's that one though)

mellow geode
oak pike
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lol. now when I run my automation to turn off zha group (two switches) it turns off... then back on 3 seconds later.

grim igloo
grim igloo
mellow geode
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If it's just in the UI, it might be that your Zigbee stick hasn't reconnected yet (and the UI just bounces back)

molten linden
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Of course need the file in right format too

oak pike
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@grim igloo yeah - it literally says lighting group turned on by automation - upstairs bathroom turn lights off, lol

mellow geode
oak pike
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the only service call under action is light.turn_off, so I have no idea where it's deciding "whoops nm need to turn back on"

mellow geode
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And if you turn them on/off through the UI, what happens?

oak pike
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that part is fine if I do it manually

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they go off and stay off

woven musk
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Does the skyconnect need to be mounted facing a certain direction? Could I mount it upside down and still get the necessary range?

oak pike
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the entity is missing <_<

Cancel - it went from switch to light domain. Still same thing though.

grim igloo
dull bramble
mellow geode
oak pike
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screw it - back to unicast for this. It's only two devices. I'll keep groups for bigger stuff, like my basement with 5 separate zigbee devices for lighting. Unicast at least works with this bathroom... groups just flat out fails for some reason.

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also realized my basement AP (got 3 in total) is the only one broadcasting 2.4, but it's also the closest to where the HA rig/coordinator are. Might move that 2.4 role to another AP... like the rear deck outdoor AP or something lol.

grim igloo
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I have 2 device groups for light + lamp in multiple rooms

oak pike
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I'll def look at a new coordinator. I just fail to see how the coordinator was the weird issue I just ran into as far as the bathroom light grouping. It's like HA got confused because the UI didn't always match physical behavior.

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like I think that might have been an off-chute, but who knows

grim igloo
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Idk I use z2m no comment there

oak pike
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dumb question but is there a graceful way to go from zha to z2m or are you just having to re-join all devices to migrate to z2m?

grim igloo
grim igloo
oak pike
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I did put the wifi AP on a different channel. I remember looking at a chart and trying to avoid 15

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as I couldn't see a way to easily move zigbee from 15 to something else

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but that was trivial to do with the wifi AP

mellow geode
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ZHA is likely using Zigbee channel 15

oak pike
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yep! that was the guide I read

mellow geode
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WiFi channel 11 would be best

grim igloo
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I have three APs and my 2.4ghz channel 11 is farthest away physically from my zigbee channel 25 coordinator

oak pike
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I'd love to shut off 2.4. Stupid robovac and a single tasmota plug are 2.4 only though

grim igloo
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You need 2.4 coverage for IoT man

oak pike
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those two devices are literally the only two on the 2.4 band. It's annoying.

grim igloo
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Crazy

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I have like 40

oak pike
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all of our phones, laptops, etc is on 5. Anything I can I hard wire. So 2.4 remains pretty bare. I don't really have wifi smart devices as I always kind of preferred the zigbee approach (or zwave if I was stuck -- smoke detectors are all zwave as I couldn't find a good zigbee option at the time, etc etc etc)

grim igloo
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I throw wled At all the things

oak pike
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wish the unifi UI would be less annoying af to use. Can't remember where these channel settings even are.

grim igloo
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Use the search function lol

mellow geode
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they're done for each radio (UniFi Deviecs -> select your AP -> Settings/Radios tab)

grim igloo
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He might have set them up in groups too

oak pike
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I see that, but I set things up based on groups. Like I have 5ghz SSID, 2.4ghz SSID, and add/remove the APs to those groups accordingly for the radio assignments

grim igloo
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For three APs?

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Tryhard

oak pike
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It was a bit of a trial as I was surveying new wifi hardware at work and considering unifi, so I was trying to replicate some work stuff at home.

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Got lazy and never undid it.

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also didn't go with Unifi at work so that's a plus

grim igloo
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In your defense it was forced upon everyone a couple years ago with an update

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Broke a lot of configs and pissed us all off

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A ui tradition

oak pike
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oooo found it, huzzah

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yeah

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I work for a school district. Last thing I wanted is to uproot 350 APs and go to a comp where their support/response time was... not great.

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we get e-rate so, hell with it, higher end we go!

grim igloo
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keeps his opinions on isds to himself

oak pike
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channel 11, low power, 20mhz width is now set on my outdoor AP only. Let's see if this sucks less with this + USB extension that was added.

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ty all for the discussion. your insight was massively appreciated. ❤️

grim igloo
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Next time bring cookies 🍪

mellow geode
oak pike
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right now my only two 2.4ghz devices are reporting good signal to that radio despite being on low power, so I'm not sure I'll have much advantage to bumping it in this case

grim igloo
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Auto power is fine for UniFi APs in my experience

oak pike
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I've since decided to put 2.4 duties on the AP located in the up-upstairs, polar opposite from coordinator location. We shall see...

mellow geode
oak pike
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Checked from the unifi network side.

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robovac and tasmota plug both respond in a timely manner, so, that's something if nothing else

young onyx
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Anyone know why ZHA goes into debug mode in the logs when adding devices? I don't have any defined logger lines and ONLY ZHA does this by default from what I can see in the logs. I've confirmed in the web UI it isn't turned on for debugging but whenever I add/remove a device it goes into debug mode.

molten linden
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It's by design, so the pairing can be debugged if needed.

inland agate
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Let me rephrase: how would one go about adding some Aqara motion sensors (aq2) to ZHA?

lilac wharf
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There are 250 other open issues, so it's not terribly surprising that you haven't received a response yet

mellow geode
inland agate
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I've listed the routers in the issue. In the meantime I got a Skyconnect and moved it as far as i could from the wifi router (~2.5m and a drywall apart) and have the exact same behavior. I tried adding the sensors both through specific routers and without specifying a parent. Still, nothing.

I can provide as much detail as necessary to help debug and i'm totally willing to learn how to do it myself (this would be the third i try to help myself and not find any relevant docs apart from reading through all the code).

soft relic
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Did you try changing the batteries? The Aqara devices behave strangely with low battery levels. And sometimes the batteries they ship with aren't great for some reason.

mellow geode
soft relic
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I had an Aqara open/close sensor just the other day that was doing strange things, the battery levels were reported as like 74% in Home Assistant, changed the battery anyway and now it works perfectly.

inland agate
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I tried pairing with new batteries. I've also measured the battery voltages and they are within 0.05V of 3V

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Usually above, between 3-3.05V

cedar patrol
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I need help with ConBee 2. Install failed.

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No connection with HA, Phoscon-GW is running...

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it ask for a host and portnumber

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don't know what that is...

sharp birch
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If I bind a Sengled Smart "Remote" to the Zigbee Controller (not even sure if thats possible) can I still make the remote control something else via Automations?

I have a few of these "Remotes" and their batteries keep dying insanely fast. I found an article that someone mentions that after they bound the remote to a device (in their case a lamp) the battery no longer died after just a few weeks...

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From what I read about binding, it sorta ties that device to the other one. I'm just assuming if I bind the remote to lets say the Livingroom overhead light, that when I press on/off on the remote it will only control that one light.. Which I don't want.

We have a large open floor plan in the front of the house, where the livingroom flows into the kitche, with far to many recessed lights (I think the contractor was on crack that day and went nuts with the lights 🤷🏼‍♂️) .. I want to be able to keep one remove in the livingroom, have the single clicks control the livingroom lights, but then have the double clicks control the kitchen, when we are being overly lazy and don't want to go back to the kitchen to turn the lights off..

But I'm concerned if I bind the remote to something, using the Zigbee Controller as an example, I won't be able to do what I would like with it any longer.

sour shadow
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Are you trying to use deCONZ? Because I'd probably recommend ZHA (or Z2M) instead

cedar patrol
warped pebble
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so if anyone has experience with zigbee binding i'd love to get a better handle on it

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I use zigbee2mqtt, and right now 100% of my device automations flow through home assistant

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i'm curious if there's a way to utilize zigbee binding and automations

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like, if HA is available let the automation do its thing, but if not utilize the binding

sour shadow
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No

warped pebble
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or is it the sort of thing where if you want to use bindings, you don't use automations

sour shadow
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If you've configured a binding then the binding works all the time

warped pebble
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is it theoretically possible to have a motion sensor bound to some lights, but then have a timeout-based automation run on home assistant to turn them off?

sour shadow
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The binding is between the two Zigbee devices, they have zero concept of anything outside of Zigbee

warped pebble
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right ok

sour shadow
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You can certainly add automations, but they can't stop the binding from doing whatever it's going to do

warped pebble
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so if i was somehow able to bind a motion sensor to lights the sensor would probably tell the lights to turn off as soon as motion stopped

sour shadow
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Probably

warped pebble
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k

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thanks for the explanation @sour shadow

cerulean raven
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Hi all! I am using HASS docker version. The most recent version. My Zigbee2MQTT stopped working out of the blue. It just simply does not start. Logs says:

[18:10:31] INFO: Preparing to start...
[18:10:32] INFO: Socat not enabled
[18:10:33] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Error relocating /usr/bin/node: unsupported relocation type 8820

So I tried to google the error but it is all refers to nodejs and thing around it. The thing is i have not touch anything for the past 2-3 weeks.

I will appreciate any help or direction. Thank you!

cerulean thorn
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Is it any real option than using zha with a yellow? I know its under development in zha, but i guess its far off

mellow geode
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Huh, what do you mean exactly?

dull bramble
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I use mosquitto and zigbee2mqtt

grim igloo
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@mellow geode what's this new hue bulb update for? it's not on their site again -.-

mellow geode
grim igloo
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didnt realize that was on github thanks

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is there a downside to starting like 10 updates at a time? the mesh will just be a little bogged down right?

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i've been doing like 3 at a time it just gets old going back and forth every so often

mellow geode
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I also updated like 6 bulbs at once yesterday. Took like 1 to 2 hours or so

grim igloo
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i have 16 left

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i think more just havent forced update check on the others yet

carmine hamlet
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The docs suggest against starting a bunch at once, but I've been known to do 10-15 at a time

radiant lichen
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I am currently looking for my 1st zigbee dongle thingy - migrating from philips hue bridge. I am seeing 2 possibilities: ethernet or usb. How do you choose between the two. Is it simply: I like this over that, or is there some pros and cons to either?

grim igloo
radiant lichen
grim igloo
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figure out of you want zha or z2m then pick your coordinator

radiant lichen
grim igloo
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6 months ago if you googled you'd see overwhelming suggestions for z2m

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i am a z2m user so i'm biased. i still havent tried zha but things i thought were issues with zha either werent or they were issues and are no longer issues

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it's more personal preference than anything else at this point

radiant lichen
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How do you make the choice then? flip a coin?

grim igloo
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but z2m works best with the cc2652p coordinators at this time so that's why you need to decide on z2m/zha then choose a coordinator

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you can look up videos of configuration of each and see

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or you can try one and migrate over (at least it's easy to migrate from z2m to zha cuz they put work into that)

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idk about going zha to z2m though

radiant lichen
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Btw.. is the HA skyconnect worth getting? I saw it was available again

grim igloo
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it's pretty well suggested here as far as using zha

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if using z2m then no

radiant lichen
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Would it be possible to run 2 HA instances (one for testing purposes) and use the same zigbee coordinator if it were an ethernet version, or would it still be a single host device?

grim igloo
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i dont think you could run them both at the same time.. one needs to be controlling it

radiant lichen
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Thanks for answering my questions, and your advice!

grim igloo
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you can have a dev testbed to test #beta and switch between them of course

radiant lichen
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That's interesting

grim igloo
radiant lichen
grim igloo
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ya it's not obvious

radiant lichen
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Good to remember. I do not yet.. This is my first attempt to manually do this stuff. So far I have a HA setup with a hue bridge... 🙂

grim igloo
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ya dude moving off the hue bridge is amazing

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the damn hue bridge falls on its face with around 40 devices and you arent able to just add any zigbee devices you want to the mesh with their closed system

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make sure to add devices closest to the coordinator first and branch out then add end devices like motion sensors and other battery powered stuff last

radiant lichen
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Yeah, the limit on devices is one of the reasons I'm looking beyond it. We are nearing 40 devices, and I don't always need the expensive hue devices.

vale surge
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hey peeps.......
does anyone know a way of blocking a particular message (not a device) in z2m??? I just bought a bunch of ZY-M100 presense sensors and the distance (from all of them) are SPAMMING the log regardless off the detection delay.

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just need to know how to block a particular topic

grim igloo
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but i cant justify $40+ for rgbw i just get their regular or ambient white/color temp bulbs

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the new ones are like $70+ for the 1600lumen lmao

radiant lichen
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Ok.. ikea works with bridge.. hush 😛

grim igloo
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ikea bulbs can be joined to z2m/zha too man

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send the bridge back to grandma

radiant lichen
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lol, now there is an idea

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perhaps a dump question, but if you link hue bulbs to my own zigbee coordinator.. can you still update the firmware?

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*of the bulbs

grim igloo
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i'm doing that now

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it's built into z2m

radiant lichen
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Oh that's nice!

grim igloo
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i actually dont think it's built into zha

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but i'm not 100% sure

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or rather you need to diy it i think

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like download the fw and point it instead of just clicking update

radiant lichen
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z2m it is.. 🙂

grim igloo
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i'd confirm that with google or wait til someone corrects me :x

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z2m lets home assistant start the upgrade

radiant lichen
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Awesome!

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Which coordinator do you use, btw? If you don't mind me asking

grim igloo
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oh i mind

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that's what it looks like in z2m

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i use the sonoff p dongle cc2652p

radiant lichen
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Sorry for asking, but thanks for answering anyway. 🙂 looks awesome!

grim igloo
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i was kidding dude

radiant lichen
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Oh duh 🙂

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Yeah, the sonoff was one I had my eye on.. like the price too for 30 euro

mellow geode
grim igloo
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yeah couldnt remember exactly what it was

radiant lichen
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Well that solves 1 question: i'm going for z2m with the sonoff dongle-p. Now to get a domain working so I can use google assistant support.. thanks for the help!

grim igloo
radiant lichen
grim igloo
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yuck

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if you say godaddy i'm gonna cry

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i assume you're moving nameservers to cf?

radiant lichen
# grim igloo yuck

No.. I actually like my registrar.. in the netherlands we have an ISP freedom.nl they also setup a free .nl domain if you want, and integrates mail.. Which we use a lot in my household.. only thingy was I cannot change my NS servers

radiant lichen
grim igloo
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do the porkbun free one

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i tested it it sets up fast

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propagates to cloudflare nameservers fast too

radiant lichen
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Excellent!

grim igloo
radiant lichen
grim igloo
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sometimes the mods are asleep and we get away with it

radiant lichen
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I won't tell if you won't 🙂

carmine hamlet
grim igloo
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runs

sinful nova
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hi, I want to check here if anyone has ideas, and assuming no, to maybe get some direction about what might be best to post in the forums. (or maybe I've just haven't found the right terms for my google searches.)

I've got an Aqara button. Everything seems to work fine except...when creating an automation for the hold function. The logbook for the button looks as I would expect it to - properly registering single, double, hold and release events.

My problem shows up when I try to create a dimming function with the long press (hold) and release functions. Here's what I noticed. When I long press the button - BOTH of my triggers fire (blue bar across the top of the triggers when I'm on the edit automation page. In the traces, the same thing is shown, both hold and release show an step at the same exact time.

Clicking on the blue "triggered" bar you can see more info (I don't know what this would be referred to and this is part of my problem in finding more info and whether this is as expected or where the issue lies). Both the hold and release (long press and release after long press) triggers show in line 15 command: hold. Should the release one register the other event?

If I start an event listener for zha_events, there is registered a separate and distinct hold and release command as I would expect. presumably this is what the logbook on the device page is digesting.

So is where is the information that goes into the triggers for a device stored? Is it even editable? And if it isn't, and I can't test that myself, where/how should I flag this in a forum post or elsewhere for someone who might be able to check that?

Thanks! (and if i'm in the wrong place here, help a guy out, where do I go next)

grim igloo
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zha or z2m or?

sinful nova
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zha

grim igloo
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derp just saw listener

mellow geode
sinful nova
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It's the b1acn01

Edit: full label is lumi.remote.b1acn01

mellow geode
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In the HA Dev Tools, you can listen for zha_event and see all the events the button fires (ah, you already did)

sinful nova
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That's the source i think! Could imagine someone just copy pasting and see two things i have a question about.

Up top with the packages imported there are hold and release commands in that first set lined 9-29, same in lines 38-48

Then in the two devices, the automation triggers in lines 128 and 173 both say

(LONG_PRESS, LONG_PRESS): {COMMAND: COMMAND_HOLD},
(LONG_RELEASE, LONG_RELEASE): {COMMAND: COMMAND_HOLD},

That second COMMAND_HOLD in the long release looks suspicious to me.

I'll see if can read up more on how to use this to try and make that change and see if it makes a difference.

mellow geode
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Then you can play around with the triggers (might need to important more constants from zigpy.const)

ebon pivot
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Hi there , I have a sky connect and ever since turning on Multiprotocol I can not get zigbee to work. I tried re setting up ZHA but get stuck at select radio type?

sinful nova
mellow geode
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Awesome, thanks for the PR! I’ll have a look soon (and see if I can figure out why it was different in the first place)

mellow geode
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If you want to keep MultiPan, you need to enter a custom path (addon IP + port) in the ZHA dialog when reconfiguring

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That should be in the docs of the MultiPan addon

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(and make sure the addon is running)

ebon pivot
mellow geode
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Do you want to keep or remove MultiPAN?

ebon pivot
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I want to keep both matter and Zigbee

mellow geode
ebon pivot
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Ok thank you I’ll give that a shot

mellow geode
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(You need the hostname of the container (:9999 as a port) for using it with ZHA instead of selecting SkyConnect from the menu)

ebon pivot
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When you say port is that different then the baudrate settings?

mellow geode
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Leave baudrate as is (likely 115200). Shouldn’t matter when using MultiPAN

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IP is hostname:9999

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(hostname being the hostname of your MultiPan addon that needs to be running)

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(This should have all been set up automatically when selecting the experimental option though)

ebon pivot
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How do you find hostname for a addon

mellow geode
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Go to Addons -> Multiprotocol addon -> copy hostname

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It’s above the start/stop buttons

ebon pivot
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I think I have to be close

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Am I supposed to do hostname in device path in zha? I am still getting failed to connect

mellow geode
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Yes, socket://hostname-from-addon:9999

ebon pivot
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Umm still not taking it I might have to sleep on it and try again in morning

mellow geode
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Did you check that the addon is running? (Any errors in those logs?)

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If you can’t get it to work, you can always go back to just Zigbee for now (SkyConnect link I sent above to flash back EZSP firmware + disable addon, as that flashes MultiPAN firmware when running)

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MultiPan is still considered experimental at the moment

ebon pivot
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Yes that is it when I try to connect that addon errors out

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2023-02-22 22:01:10 core-silabs-multiprotocol universal_silabs_flasher.flash[238] INFO Extracted GBL metadata: NabuCasaMetadata(metadata_version=1, sdk_version=<AwesomeVersion SemVer '4.2.1'>, ezsp_version=None, fw_type=<FirmwareImageType.RCP_UART_802154: 'rcp-uart-802154'>)
2023-02-22 22:01:10 core-silabs-multiprotocol universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[238] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER
2023-02-22 22:01:12 core-silabs-multiprotocol universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[238] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC
2023-02-22 22:01:16 core-silabs-multiprotocol universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[238] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP
Error: Failed to probe running application type
2023-02-22 22:01:21 core-silabs-multiprotocol concurrent.futures[238] ERROR exception calling callback for <Future at 0x7fa711f940 state=finished returned NoneType>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.9/concurrent/futures/_base.py", line 329, in _invoke_callbacks

ebon pivot
dusty musk
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Hello , i wanted to ask about firmware updates on the Zigbee2Mqtt for Aqara devices and sensors , is there a way to do these in home assistant , the only things that i see in OTA page are hue lights , how would one go about updating firmware on Aqara devices (i have the new Sonoff zigbee dongle , if that matters )

sour shadow
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Is there an update showing in Z2M for them?

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(keep in mind too that updating a battery device often requires that you keep poking the wake/pair button to keep the device awake)

dusty musk
sour shadow
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Ah... so .... reality be damned?

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If there's nothing showing in Z2M then there's clearly nothing that Z2M can pass to HA for it to show in HA

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And sure, they're providing firmware updates in their own apps and hubs

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That doesn't mean they make the firmware accessible so that Z2M can update it

dusty musk
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ohh ok i understand

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so i would have to buy one of their hubs to get updates

sour shadow
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Or wait for somebody in the community to reverse engineer it

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Of course, firmware updates are for their ecosystem, so updating devices can introduce new bugs in Z2M/HA

dusty musk
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yes i suppose so, that did cross my mind also i heard that device start acting up if u try and pair them to a different platform

grave flax
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How well is the SkyConnect working with Z2M now? I read that the support is experimental and I also saw people having trouble setting the adapter up. I don't mind getting messy with the setup, my concern is whether everything will be stable once running. I do not want to switch to ZHA (and I even can't as Z2M is running on a different machine than HA).

wet socket
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@grave flax i am not aware about any report saying that they managed to make EFR32 based coordinator stable on Z2M. 🙂

sour shadow
grave flax
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Ok, I'll stay with CC2531 for now. Thx.

sour shadow
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Buy something CC2652 based

grave flax
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Nah, that does not make sense for a network of less than 15 devices in a two room apartment. I already have that CC2531 laying around (the one with an external antenna) from upgrading my parent's house to a CC2652. I'd just reach free shipping from my local Pi reseller if I'd buy the SkyConnect so I was wondering.

sour shadow
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As long as you're comfortable with the fact that it'll just lock up without warning

grave flax
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That honestly never happened within two years when my parents had it. Do you have any link describing those issues? I did have a problem once the network was larger than ~25 devices which corresponds with what I read online. It just did not receive some events from time to time.

sour shadow
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The history of this channel, the Z2M repo issues, the ZHA repo issues, the HA forum, and lots more

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It can happen with a dozen devices, or less

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Don't think anybody has identified definitively what the trigger points are. I'd guess it's volume of messages it has to handle since it tends to happen sooner with many router devices than many end devices, but... it's not that predictable

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Sometimes just restarting the software fixes it, sometimes you have to power cycle the stick

grave flax
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Oh wow, ok, thx for the info. I guess I'll get the Sonoff P eventually

sour shadow
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Well... any CC2652 will do, and there's a bad batch of Sonoff P out there with NVRAM corruption issues

grave flax
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Lol, the issues never end, do they. 😅

sour shadow
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Sonoff.... not known for the quality of their Zigbee stuff

lilac wharf
sour shadow
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To be fair, mine has been fine

grave flax
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The one from Slaesh works perfectly I have to say. But it's on the expensive side, especially with the shipping.

lilac wharf
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I'm pretty sure I was hit with it once 🙄

tropic willow
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Hey everyone, I just got my skyconnect in the mail and I'm following these instructions: https://skyconnect.home-assistant.io/migrate-zigbee-backup/ to move from Zigbee2MQTT but when I get to step 7 the integration is not auto-discovered. I know the system sees it because I see it with the other USB devices as usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_36a624c6588dec66d-if00-port0. What should I do?

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Could it have something to do with the fact that I used to have ZHA setup a while back?

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I tried to hit the "Add integration" button but I don't see sky connect as an option

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btw I'm on 2023.2.5

cedar carbon
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Just installed my new SkyConnect - ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

sour shadow
tropic willow
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Moving away from Zigbee2MQTT and trying to do it using the SkyConnect integration I see pictured in the instructions linked above, however it does have the same logo as ZHA

sour shadow
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That's because it is ZHA 😉

tropic willow
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So I should just add as the ZHA integration?

sour shadow
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Yes

tropic willow
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ah perfect so I was just expecting a different label, good to know, thank you

sour shadow
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Yeah, for some reason with ZHA it shows the name of the stick as the integration name, and Zigbee Home Automation as the subtext

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I've no idea why they make it so hard

tropic willow
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ha, it now calls itself skyconnect after adding zha

grim igloo
young granite
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hey guys i got a ledvance smart+ e27 bulb and on their site and on zigbee2mqtt it s advertised as compatible

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the bulb is in pairing mode however it doesn t appear in the dashboard of zibbee2mqtt at all

#

the box says nothing about zigbee

sour shadow
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What model?

young granite
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E27 multicolor

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LEDVANCE 4058075208391 appears like this on the site

sour shadow
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That's the magic... the number

young granite
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where i check for compatibility

sour shadow
young granite
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yep that s the site i was on

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if it s there i m guessing it should be compatible right?

sour shadow
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To reset a SMART+ Zigbee 3.0 RGBW lamp to factory setting, switch it ON for five seconds then OFF for five seconds five times in succession. When switched on again, the lamp flashes blue, green and red as confirmation and can now be added to a smart home system again.

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You've done that?

young granite
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i ll try again but i didn t get any rgb flashing only white

nova crest
grim igloo
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Rip

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Brutal, savage, Rekt

young granite
grim igloo
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Maybe it can be flashed with wled

sour shadow
young granite
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yeah deffinetly not the box i had. i assumed it just didn t say zigbee on the box

sour shadow
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I'd expect the box to mention what tech it uses

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WiFi, Zigbee, Bluetooth

stone musk
#

Hi , I've just moved my Ikea devices from Ikea Hub to SkyConnect/ZHA and my blinds batteries reports 255% ... any ideas ?

young granite
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well at least it wasn t expensive

young granite
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and say it works with wifi cause it would connect to a hub

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or sth

grim igloo
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Good learning experience lol

young granite
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yea

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also very wierdly the bulb doesn t get light in 2 of my outlets but it lights up in any other one i plug it in

glossy marten
#

Are there any smart thermostats that work over zigbee, but instead of connecting to the heater(s) with wires like usual it controls an entity in HA?

sour shadow
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I mean... no, but ... no

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You could use any smart thermostat and wrap it with automations

pulsar skiff
#

Hey everyone! I'm having some annoyance getting my IKEA Tradfri devices to connect to my Zigbee SONOFF device

stone musk
lament warren
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Is there a way to set hidden info for a given device? I have a bunch of temp sensors which have serial numbers on the side (that don't seem to be in the zigbee info), and I want to store that somewhere in the device info so if I forget which sensor is which I don't have to go through the identify process. Can I do that without just putting it in the title? (using ZHA)

unkempt trellis
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Has anyone tried lidl product with the cobbee2 usb stick?

sour shadow
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With ZHA or Z2M, or even deCONZ?

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those things matter more than the stick you use

glossy narwhal
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Just got a sonoff snzb-01 to try but I only see battery and identify entities. Am I being stupid and missing something - how do I know when it has been pressed?

mellow geode
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So you're using ZHA. That's expected. It'll produce a zha_event when you press something (the device is stateless).

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There might be device automation triggers available for your device. Create a new automation and choose "device" as a trigger. If someone added them, you'll find the actions the button can produce.

glossy narwhal
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Aha, found a blueprint, tyvm

soft stag
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Hi, I am migrating my zigbee radio in HA with ZHA to the SONOFF dongle P V2. Now it is asking if SW flow control or HW flow control. WHoch should i choose?

wet socket
soft stag
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yes that is

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should I leave the default?

wet socket
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i mean SW flow control.

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if you want to enable hardware, you should disassemble it and change the switch position.

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but there is no real reason for this.

grim igloo
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P dongle user here with z2m I’ve never seen this discussed lol

wet socket
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😄

grim igloo
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What’s the difference or reason to use one vs the other?

wet socket
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actually, you will need special firmware to enable it as well. 🙂

soft stag
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ok then, I will leave SW

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thanks

fading briar
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Can someone help me interpret the results of a zha_event so I can trigger an automation based on it happening?

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I'm listening to the event and I've caught it in devtools , but I'm not 100% sure what to do with it now. I have started an automation with a trigger on the event, and specified the device_id as the trigger, but there's other info in the even that I would like to take into consideration as a condition, but I'm not sure how to go about it.

tardy onyx
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Any way to force Z2M to recalibrate the Zigbee mesh?

grizzled kettle
fading briar
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thanks, I'll take a look

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I've got it triggering off of an event and I'm specifying the device_id: of the event I captured. For the condition, I want to look at Data: -> parms -> move_mode. I presume that my trigger condition would look at {{ tringger.event.data}}, but how do I specify all the way down to get to look at move_mode?

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would {{trigger.event.event_data.parms.move_mode}} do the trick or just error out on me?

grim igloo
fading briar
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argh! Too many channels to get one thing figured out. 😦

grim igloo
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Server rules I just live here

haughty burrow
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Anyone has a zbdongle-b connected to a device running HA in a proxmox VM?

carmine hamlet
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'B'?

wet socket
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i guess you mean P or E

haughty burrow
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Something is off, I get the same USB port address when I connect to a diff port.

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P

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Sorry

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Doing P because E kicked my butt

violet wave
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I got a CC2531 on a vm running qemu if that counts

wet socket
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@haughty burrow select USB port, not a USB Vendor/Device ID...

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USB Vendor/Device ID is acting strange in Proxmox

haughty burrow
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..and should I use the ID address

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Or /dev/ttyUSB0

wet socket
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i use regular /dev/ttyUSBx

sour shadow
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/dev/serial/by-id/ is the smarter choice

haughty burrow
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Can't get zigbee2mqtt to run for jack

sour shadow
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What's the error?

haughty burrow
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Thought it was going to be straightforward with the P

sour shadow
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Should be

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But without knowing the problem...

fading briar
grim igloo
haughty burrow
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So far I have the donglep working standalone, no zigbee2mqtt, I have an aqara motion switch paired with sensors Iaszone, illuminance and Ocuppancy (stuck on detected).

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will zigbee2mqtt make it better.

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in addition, tried to pair a linkind window/door sensors and stuck in closed.

sour shadow
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If you're using ZHA just now it's unlikely that Z2M will solve those problems

haughty burrow
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I read somewhere one might get the wrong dongle version.

haughty burrow
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So, If I'm just using zha, do I need the devices apps?

cerulean thorn
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What is the known problems with the yellow zigbee and Z2M? Im preparing to plan to move to the yellow, but currently using Z2M with about 80 devices. From what I understand the best bet is to move everything to ZHA unless Z2M can handle it?

wet socket
grim igloo
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Or just don’t use the yellow coordinator

cerulean thorn
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Well that is kinda the point of me using the yellow, all in one, less point of failure

mortal sail
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I just purchased a sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle, and I am attempting to set up zigbee2mqtt, but when I attempt to put the the information for the device in the serial section of the configuration, I am getting an error. The path to the device is showing up as:
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0 and the error is: Failed to save add-on configuration, Invalid dict for option 'serial' in Zigbee2MQTT (45df7312_zigbee2mqtt). Got {'data_path': '/config/zigbee2mqtt', 'socat': {'enabled': False, 'master': 'pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777', 'slave': 'tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5', 'options': '-d -d', 'log': False}, 'mqtt': {}, 'serial': '/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0001-if00-port0'}

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Can someone tell me if I am missing something?

lilac wharf
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Share your config

mortal sail
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I think I might have just figured out the issue. Tried restarting the proxmox server and the frontend appears to be working. Probably should have considered doing that.

haughty burrow
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Is the "Occupancy" sensor on the Aqara supposed to clear itself when there is not presence or it's a manual process?

mellow geode
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For motion sensors, it's just a 20 min timeout after last motion (ZHA)

haughty burrow
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so what's the difference between the Iazone and the occupancy one?

mellow geode
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Depending on the motion sensor, IasZone times out after like at max. 70 seconds after last motion.

haughty burrow
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Yay!!!!!

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I think I got dongle-e to work.

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and of course z2m still giving me issues.

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[22:25:43] INFO: Preparing to start...
[22:25:44] INFO: Socat not enabled
[22:25:47] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-02-23 22:25:54: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2023-02-23.22-25-54' filename: log.txt
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-02-23 22:25:54: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.30.1 (commit #unknown)
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2023-02-23 22:25:54: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.89)
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-23 22:27:16: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-23 22:27:16: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-23 22:27:16: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-23 22:27:16: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-23 22:27:17: Error: Failure send version:{"type":"Buffer","data":[0,0,1,0,0,8]}
at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:529:23
at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

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any leads?

lilac wharf
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EmberZNet adapters only have experimental support in z2m, so that's probably why

haughty burrow
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worked for this guy

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but def zha is working better on the dongleE than the P

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let me restart proxmox

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reboot worked, sucess

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thank you team for all the help

cerulean raven
#

Hi all! I am using HASS docker Virtual box version. The most recent version. My Zigbee2MQTT stopped working out of the blue. It just simply does not start. Logs says:

[18:10:31] INFO: Preparing to start...
[18:10:32] INFO: Socat not enabled
[18:10:33] INFO: Starting Zigbee2MQTT...
Error relocating /usr/bin/node: unsupported relocation type 8820

So I tried to google the error but it is all refers to nodejs and thing around it. The thing is i have not touch anything for the past 2-3 weeks.

I will appreciate any help or direction. Thank you!

sour shadow
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It's possible the problem is a corrupt Docker image, stop and delete the container, then prune the images before pulling it fresh

cerulean raven
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I can try to uninstall Zigbee2mqtt but I am afraid that I will have to add all my zigbee devices again

sour shadow
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Ah, well, my advice was based on what you said, not what you have 😛

cerulean raven
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I also have daily backups that are done via Home Assistant Add-on: Google Drive Backup

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Yeah, I know and I am really appreciate it

sour shadow
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I have no idea how to purge add-on images

cerulean raven
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Purge means delete?

sour shadow
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Yeah

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If it's a corrupt image you want them purged, deleted and gone

cerulean raven
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out of my curiosity, why would it be corrupted? I have not touched my system(hass+server) for 2 weeks. It cant be done by itself. My guess is some kind of software update installed

sour shadow
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Many possible causes for files to be corrupted, SD card failure isn't your problem, but ... it can just happen

cerulean raven
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Okay, just tried to use 2 weeks old backup. It did not help. Thank you! I will dig more

haughty burrow
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so, paired an aqara motion sensor to z2m, then I removed it.

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now the dang thing won't pair again.

inland agate
#

what motion sensor?

haughty burrow
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the aqara little cylindrical one

inland agate
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aq2?

loud bobcat
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this is weird. 2 identical pi4's woth hassio with both conbee sticks... and my 2nd one z2m can't start - always fails to start zigbee "Zigbee2MQTT:error 2023-02-24 15:48:05: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)"

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i disabled zha... deconz not running ... what am i missing?

sour shadow
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Both ConBee units are on extension cables?

loud bobcat
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yup

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identical. i bought the same cable...

haughty burrow
loud bobcat
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deconz sees the stick.

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i've put the port in explicitly (/dev/...) and that doesnt help

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my other box doesnt need it as there is only one stick anyway

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plugged into the same usb port too (usb2) same power supply (official rpi usb wall-wart one). both boot off a usb3 ssd

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both has same device (/dev/ttyACM0) with same owenrship, permission flags.

haughty burrow
loud bobcat
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settings -> devices & services -> integrations -> ... -> disable

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a big "enable" button is there...

sour shadow
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You've explicitly set the adapter type to deconz?

loud bobcat
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i haven5t explicitly set anything

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i have literally copy & pasteed the raw yaml config from one box to the other as they are identical...

sour shadow
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If Zigbee2MQTT fails to start, try adding the following...

loud bobcat
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but why does one work and the other not?

sour shadow
loud bobcat
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wth? it works... but... why? .... the other box and conbee stick i bought a few months back works fine... :/

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aaaah

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it has newer fw...

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0x26720700

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my other stick has 0x26580700

sour shadow
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Conbee 2 firmware versions newer than 0x26580700 will result in an unstable network

grim igloo
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slaps conbee around a bit with a large trout

sour shadow
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Hey... what did the trout do to deserve that?

grim igloo
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it did unspeakable things with its mouth

sour shadow
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Ah... well... in that case ... carry on

grim igloo
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giggle

loud bobcat
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and here i thought the conbee stick was the way to go... 😦

carmine hamlet
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I don't know where that impression comes from. Many people come here with that incorrect assumption

loud bobcat
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what zigbee stick would be the way to go for the most solid stable etc. network?

carmine hamlet
loud bobcat
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i have the sonoff one ... i have had little luck with that

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the dongle-p one... or so the back says

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not the dongle-e

carmine hamlet
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I and lots of other folks are using that with no problems

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So start with what 'had little luck' means

loud bobcat
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oh hooray 0- i flashed older fw on my conbee and its now dead

carmine hamlet
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It's in a better place

loud bobcat
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oh reflashed and it starts now

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well does more than the sonoff does 🙂

grim igloo
grim igloo
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what firmware is the p dongle on?

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what issues have you had with it?

#

what have you tried?

loud bobcat
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i haven't changed the fw - so whatever it came with.

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i plug in - it's the only serial device. z2m fails to start - dont have the logs on me right now

haughty burrow
mellow geode
haughty burrow
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oh

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I didn't even that that

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I plugged the dongle and was detected by HA.

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then hit configure

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that's it

#

was that wrong?

#

so, how do I install ZHA?

mellow geode
haughty burrow
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no

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still there, not detecting one aqara motion sensor, and half detecting another not sensing anything.

mellow geode
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so what do you want to do exactly? Are you running both ZHA and Z2M?

haughty burrow
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I don't see z2m is not working for me

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for aqara

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which one is best.

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?

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ok, it looks like I have ZHA

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The SONOFF zigbee 3.0 USB dongle plus V2 icon says "Zigbee Home Automation"

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but don't have a ZHA icon

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and I have Z2M installed as well.

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I was aiming for z2m but it's giving me issues.

mellow geode
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Upload a screenshot of what you're seeing to https://imgur.com/ (or some other image hoster) and send the link here.

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Both ZHA and Z2M work well with Aqara products.

haughty burrow
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unless it's because I'm running HA in Proxmox

mellow geode
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If you have a SkyConnect (or another EZSP dongle), newer Aqara products (P1 sensor, E1) and are you using Z2M, you might have issues with those devices, as Z2M doesn't send the proper manufacturer codes when using EZSP dongles.

wet socket
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Zigbee Home Automation = ZHA

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🙂

haughty burrow
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Yes, but don't see the specific on that's in the image.

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I'm try the dongle P again

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instead of the E

mellow geode
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(and the "SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2" is the "E" dongle)

haughty burrow
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yes

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I also have the P

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at least I was able to install z2m, I was getting a bunch of errors before today.

soft relic
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It's a known thing that if you bind switches to older Hue bulbs and switch the lights on or off with them, it can take a couple of minutes for the HA front end to update the status right? Something to do with older Hue bulbs not being able to push attribute updates to the coordinator, right?

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with ZHA

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Is there some way I can force ZHA to read the attributes from the bulbs if it sees a command from a switch? Like with an automation I mean.

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Maybe with zha_toolkit.attr_read ?

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I care most about having the on/off state correct in HA as quickly as possible

mellow geode
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That just reads the on_off attribute and might update the entity. Newer Hue bulbs do proper attribute reporting, although ZHA only parses on/off and brightness attribute reports. (It does not parse color + color temp, as the color_mode attribute isn't reportable)

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(All Hue bulbs are also polled in an interval that's between 3 and 5 minutes long)

soft relic
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Yeah, basically what I want do is use bound switches then have an automation set the lights to brightness / temperatures depending on the time of day. Without the groups updating instantly it feels a bit awkward, the colour changing a few minutes after the lights come on. I just really need ZHA to realise the bulbs have switched on quickly.

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I suppose I could just use the zha_event to trigger the automation rather than the group transition from off to on, means I would need separate automations for the motion sensors, open/close sensors, etc as well though

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Meh, I'm going to need that anyway though

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I'll have a play with that attr_read and see it if works, thanks.

mellow geode
haughty burrow
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am I missing anything here, I have the dongleP hooked up.

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data_path: /config/zigbee2mqtt
socat:
enabled: false
master: pty,raw,echo=0,link=/tmp/ttyZ2M,mode=777
slave: tcp-listen:8485,keepalive,nodelay,reuseaddr,keepidle=1,keepintvl=1,keepcnt=5
options: "-d -d"
log: false
mqtt:
server: mqtt://192.168.1.10:1883
user: mqtt_user
password: Pass123!
serial:
port: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_0cb1281d9619ec11952d37cc47486eb0-if00-port0

soft relic
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not used trigger IDs so far, I'll have a read up on them and see if I can do this generally

mellow geode
grim igloo
mellow geode
soft relic
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I just did this:

#
  • alias: Office Dimmer Button Press
    trigger:
    platform: event
    event_type: zha_event
    event_data:
    device_ieee: SNIP
    action:
    • service: zha_toolkit.attr_read
      data:
      ieee: light.office_1
      endpoint: 11
      cluster: 6
      attribute: 0
mellow geode
soft relic
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HA now appears to see this state updating in real time rather than with the delay

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I used to use Deconz and I think that just guessed the state and updated HA to watch the command should do

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sometimes with offlight lights they would appear to switch on in HA then go back to off once it realise it couldn't really change the state

mellow geode
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hmm, it would need to keep track of the bindings for that (but possible ofc)

soft relic
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this helps a lot though with making the front end feel snappier, perhaps it's something that HA could do in the background for lights light that don't report themselves?

mellow geode
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well, ZHA doesn't keep track of bindings at the moment
it would need that (so know which lights are bound to what dimmer) and then assume/poll state of the affected lights

soft relic
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maybe I'll put in a feature request 🙂

mellow geode
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it's not trivial to implement in HA itself though

soft relic
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I'm going to try and think of a way of doing this cleanly, maybe maintaining a manual binding of switch ieee so a light it needs to poll

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maybe that trigger ID you mentioned is the way to go, I'll have a proper read of that now

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I need to somehow map <this ieee> -> <list of lights to query>

mellow geode
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unrelated to the trigger ID, but just a reminder that you can also use device automation triggers (instead of needing to do the zha_event) stuff for most dimmers/remotes: https://i.imgur.com/Zk1cPDl.png (you select "Device" as trigger -> then your dimmer)
It needs to have those events added in zha-quirks though. Most Hue dimmers should have those events defined though

soft relic
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I've never actually used the front end for doing automations, I got used to doing them in yaml....

mellow geode
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The frontend is amazing these days. (Also in regards to trigger IDs + "choose" and so on)
i'd definitely try it. (You can also jump to YAML for the some (or all) parts of the automation directly from the frontend)

soft relic
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I guess I could do this with a blueprint

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I'll have a play, I've been sleeping on the newer automation features really, most of mine are probably how you had to do it 3 years ago

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one last question, do you have to use the ieee MAC address(??) format for zha_event? There's no way of just using the entity name?

haughty burrow
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adapter: ezsp is used for the dongle-E correct?

mellow geode
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yes

haughty burrow
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I set z2m to start in debug mode, and I think it's crashing on me..

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11],"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"networkKey":"HIDDEN","panID":6754},"serialPort":{"adapter":"ezsp","path":"/dev/ttyUSB0"}}'
2023-02-24T18:32:42.310Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter Failed to validate path: 'Error: spawn udevadm ENOENT'
2023-02-24T18:32:42.313Z zigbee-herdsman:controller:log Starting with options '{"network":{"networkKeyDistribute":false,"networkKey":[1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,0,2,4,6,8,10,12,13],"panID":6754,"extendedPanID":[221,221,221,221,221,221,221,221],"channelList":[11]},"serialPort":{"path":"/dev/ttyUSB0","adapter":"ezsp"},"databasePath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db","databaseBackupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/database.db.backup","backupPath":"/config/zigbee2mqtt/coordinator_backup.json","adapter":{"disableLED":false,"concurrent":null,"delay":null}}'
2023-02-24T18:32:42.319Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Opening SerialPort with {"path":"/dev/ttyUSB0","baudRate":115200,"rtscts":false,"autoOpen":false}
2023-02-24T18:32:42.385Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Serialport opened
2023-02-24T18:32:42.387Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart Uart reseting
2023-02-24T18:32:42.388Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> Write reset
2023-02-24T18:32:42.390Z zigbee-herdsman:adapter:ezsp:uart --> [1ac038bc7e]

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I don't have the adapter line in the yaml file.

mellow geode
soft relic
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Yeah, I guess this makes a lot more sense with the front end, not very readable in raw yaml

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ok, any way to export all your automations from the front end into a yaml file so you can version control them?

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I have a habit of randomly breaking things....

mellow geode
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well, the frontend uses the automations.yaml file, so you'd need to sync/backup that

soft relic
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hmm, I don't have one of those at the moment, I guess that's because I haven't created anything in the front end yet

mellow geode
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You might have to change your configuration.yaml a bit, so it properly works with the frontend automations editor. There was some tutorial/migration somewhere, but this is probably no longer #zigbee-archived related (maybe #automations-archived is better)

haughty burrow
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I found an conflict in configuration.yaml

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freaking adapter was specified

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deleted the whole content

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yeah baby!!!!! I 'm getting a lot more stuff now

soft relic
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So you were saying something like this for trigger IDs:

rapid dawnBOT
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@soft relic I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
loud bobcat
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dang... so things wored.. then they stopped... so trying the sonoff dongle-p - adapter: ezsp right?

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but z2m just atops and i ned up with 502's

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nothing in log?

wet socket
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zbdongle-p is not an ezsp coordinator. remove it from the config.

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it's a TI CC2652P

loud bobcat
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so no need to specify it?

haughty burrow
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make sure there is nothing in configuration.yaml and just configure it from z2m

loud bobcat
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no port?

haughty burrow
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yes

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settings --> system--> hardware

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click on the 3 dots upper right --> all hardware

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scrolldown to one of the tty...s

loud bobcat
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ok.. this is odd

wet socket
loud bobcat
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its not using the confg.yaml i wrote/edited?

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This add-on does not expose configuration for you to mess with…

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i cant edit from ui ?

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what is going on...

haughty burrow
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I mean, not in the configuration .yaml

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just use the configuration tab

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look at me, pretending I'm an exper

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t

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..and barely running z2m

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lol

loud bobcat
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it seems if i store an old config as configuration.yaml.bak bad things happen... ?

haughty burrow
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yes

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and even in configuration.yaml

loud bobcat
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it's back

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this is ... picky...

haughty burrow
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just configure it in the app

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dude I was about to throw the towel

loud bobcat
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man so i was editing the yaml expecting it to use it

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it didnt... 502's - weird stuff... very fragile :/

haughty burrow
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that's how I started, then everything went south

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look at all my comments

loud bobcat
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it seems i finally have the sonoff being seen...

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\o/

haughty burrow
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nice!!!

loud bobcat
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let me try get my living room paired...

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or should i just move everything to the sonoff?

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and re-pair all my exisitng devices?

haughty burrow
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I have everything next to it

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don't know the final destination yet

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but everything is pairing

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sometimes you have to pair more than once

loud bobcat
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i have 80 devices attached to my other ha node + conbee... i am loathe to re-pair them alll...

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trying remote home assistant to glue these 2 rtogether

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eh? i change channel...

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oh i have to remove the backup manually?

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argh

wet socket
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always pair devices in their final location.

loud bobcat
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what i have been doing. 🙂

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kind of hit the limit of my conbee with about 80 or so devices

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damn my bulbs paired so much faster with the sonoff...

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is this normal?

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(vs conbee)

soft relic
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I found ZHA with SonOff or SkyConnect much faster than Conbee/Deconz too

loud bobcat
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like the appeared all pretty fast and interview as much faster than i rememeberr an initial room pair on a conbee

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interesting.

soft relic
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the interface for pairing on ZHA is a million times nicer as well

loud bobcat
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maybe i should move my network over to the sonoff? i will need about 150-180 devices or so

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i have some odd things that zha's support is not so goof for - at lerast when i did earlier testing

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z2m seems to have by far more support

wet socket
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@loud bobcat with ZBDongle-P try Z2M first.

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which firmware version you running on coordinator?

loud bobcat
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i'm using z2m with it on a 2nd rpi4 i was tyring remote home assisant to extend my network

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but it seems nothing is propagating...

soft relic
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I've got the -P dongle running ZHA with almost 100 devices, 50% routers. it's been running very nicely for a week or so now

loud bobcat
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hmmm

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i'll try move across one room right now. i hope i dont have to open up my lamps on the ceilings again...

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there isn't a way to just wholesale migrate devices from a conbee to a sonoff ? my reading so far says no...

soft relic
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using deconz?

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I think there was a way published somewhere before

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I guess that assumed you had an empty ZHA beforehand though

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I think that would work for any stick even though it's written for SC

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Maybe wait for confirmation from someone who knows better than me before you go breaking everything though 🙂

grim igloo
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hands over his hammer

loud bobcat
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well i need to confirm ... when i switched channel i had to start unscrwwing lamps from ceilings because my candeo dimmers are behind the lamp in the ceiling and i had to press reset 5 times

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that was not fun

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i still have to do it to more lamps but i'm avoiding it until i settle things

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they dont go into pairing mode if u flick power on/off 5 times i they still think they are on the previous network

wet socket
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@loud bobcat if you changing channel, you will need to re-pair everything.

loud bobcat
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yeah - repairing i can do... but the physical removal of my lighting is the real issue 🙂

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i am not sure if i remove non-forcibly if they will do this right yet...

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i'm about to find out...

wet socket
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when you are lucky enough and you remove the powered device from one system (ZHA for example) and at the same time permit join on another system (Z2M for example), devices may rejoin automatically to the new system. But it's not working for all powered devices, my Ikea bulbs for example need physical intervention. 🙂

loud bobcat
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well well they do handle the 5 times power flick ... if you NICELY unpair them first

wet socket
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exactly. 🙂

loud bobcat
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but thehy wont go into re-pair mode if i dont do it nicely...

wet socket
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if allow pairing at the same time on z2m, they will join there. 🙂

loud bobcat
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ok - so re-pairing will not be as painful as i thought...

wet socket
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well, all battery powered devices is a pain. 🙂

loud bobcat
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these are powered ones

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i have kept my switches to a minimum for now

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they are more painful...

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so i have a plan of attack... i might just migrater everything to the sonoff - i hope it'll be more stable than the conbee as i think i hit its device limit

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and since i have a plethora of routers (90% of my devices are bulbs/dimmers) ... i have zero issues for mesh coverage

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or should...

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and the coordinator itself can direct get to most thnigs i think

polar belfry
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i can not configure zha i need set the path of the skyconnect and then the port speed and alwas says cannot connect

haughty burrow
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usb:

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?

polar belfry
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yes usb

haughty burrow
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need the port address?

molten linden
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VM or physical machine?

polar belfry
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physical machine

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lenovo thinkcentre

haughty burrow
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settings --> system --> hardware, click 3 dots in upper right, all hardware

polar belfry
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/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Nabu_Casa_SkyConnect_v1.0_e653be424743ed118d0d43ab2a61ed69-if00-port0

haughty burrow
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cool

polar belfry
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and what now

molten linden
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posted to text share site.

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also did you enable the multi-protocol addon? if so it would have flashed it with fw incompatible with zha.

deep zinc
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anyone know how/if it's possible to send a command to a zigbee group instead of individual device with zha_toolkit?

molten linden
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there's an in built service with zha for group commands

deep zinc
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I need to send args, can't do that with zha

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or at least it doesn't seem to work

molten linden
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looks like args are an option to the zha send group command service

deep zinc
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they don't work

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maybe I'll try again. but I found posts online saying they're not ready in ZHA from a couple of years ago and nothing seems to have changed

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args in ZHA seems like it's been broken for a while

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(which is why I looked at zha_toolkit in the first place)

molten linden
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that's talking about event triggers

wet socket
deep zinc
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I'll try again but it hasn't worked.

# 
  - service: zha_toolkit.execute
    data:
      command: zcl_cmd
      ieee: 00:17:88:01:00:f8:0a:73
      cmd: 6
      cluster: 8
      args:
      - 0
      - 0
      - 0```
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this works in zha_toolkit

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but adding those args in just ZHA group command does not seem to

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and I can't see a way to do it to a group from zha_toolkit

molten linden
deep zinc
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lol

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nevermind I just did it again and it worked, wth

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fighting with it for two hours before switching to zha_toolkit

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thanks I guess 😂

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finally, soon I'll get smooth dimming of hue bulbs connected directly to HA not the hue bridge

molten linden
#

there is a really good blueprint/script I used with has awesome dimming

deep zinc
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a lot I've seen do repeated messages to lower/raise

polar belfry
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i just put the skyconnect into another usb port and now all works thank you

deep zinc
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i'm gonna have to put a blueprint together myself but this basically will tell it "dim to 0 over x time" and then "stop" when the button is released

polar belfry
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🙈😂

deep zinc
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very zigbee/hue specific

molten linden
#

yeah. lookin the BT exchange in the forums

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there's one that does exactly this

deep zinc
#

nice

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I'll take a look. I looked around there but didn't find any quite what I wanted

molten linden
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I actually had it book marked

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lol

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I set it up with an inovelli switch and innr bulb and it's def the smoothest dimming solution I've ever used.

deep zinc
#

seems like (at least with my bulbs) the calculation part isn't necessary and it just grabs the level from the bulb when it's stopped

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right now I'd need version B (using pico remotes) but am getting some other switches to try out

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pretty satisfying to get it working on my own, too, though

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oh I see what it does

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it sets the brightness at the dimming stop with the calculation

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what I'm doing instead is sending a zigbee command to "increase the brightness 0 steps" which stops the dimming

deep zinc
#

thinking about it more, to really do it right, you'd have to do what that blueprint does but also change the transition time based on the current brightness

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if 100 -> 0 is 6 seconds then you'd want 50 -> 0 to be 3 seconds

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so if you start dimming when it's already at 50...

grim igloo
#

@plucky bolt the PoE coordinators are great because you can put them in a more centralized location

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and the tube coordinators are suggested here because he's great a customer service, the products themselves seem solid with the hardware, and he even open sources the BOM etc all on github if you want to make your own to save some $

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with that being said i personally think putting all your eggs in one basket (such as home assistant on your server) is a bad idea

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server down + smart home down at one time = no fun

plucky bolt
#

I always disliked passing through thr usb and was interested in the WiFi options but connectivity issues made me avoid.
I will look into sourcing parts for one.

grim igloo
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you're used to smd components?

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if not then you should just buy one premade

plucky bolt
#

The single server is a downsize to save power costs at the moment, all lights and seitches are on a separate hue hub so at least I can see in thr downtime!

grim igloo
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i hate to hear that

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if you ever decide to shoot the hue puck in the face please record it and send it to me

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i will put it in my spank bank

plucky bolt
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Yes, ish, I am in the UK so postage costs might be too much

grim igloo
#

he ships around the world but i am not sure about a eu/uk distributor. @molten linden any ballpark estimate on cost to ship to uk?

plucky bolt
#

Haha, it works well enough for me to still use it, I would hate to lose the dynamic themes

grim igloo
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dynamic themes?

molten linden
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$16 + ddu

plucky bolt
#

Thanks, decent price

molten linden
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Yo is fairly fast 5-10 days on average

grim igloo
#

curious if you've thought about shipping like 100 of them to someone in eu to redistribute

molten linden
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I don’t ever have a 100 made at one time 😂

plucky bolt
#

The hue dynamic scenes can auto shift the colours of the lights within a palette but you can only configure within the app

molten linden
grim igloo
grim igloo
plucky bolt
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Cannot find any example videos! Basically if you set the palette to be red and blue then the lights will slowly shift hues between the two colours. Make ambient lighting a little more interesting.
Only easy way I found in HA to do this is with an automation to randomised colours and use a long transition.

grim igloo
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i see

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i have 40+ hue devices all added to zigbee2mqtt but i have zero rgb(w) bulbs from hue

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i do all of my rgb goodness with WLED-powered led strips

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i think you could easily recreate what you're saying though

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my hue bridge was falling on its face and I was having multi second delay with 40+ hue devices on it because it just cant handle them all. Hue's answer is to get a second fucking bridge which is a joke...

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much better to move all of their devices to a zigbee mesh you control especially when you consider the fact you now have a giant zigbee mesh for end devices like sensors

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something to consider

deep zinc
#

wow those coordinators do look nice

grim igloo
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you look nice

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real nice

haughty burrow
deep zinc
#

having the zigbee coordinator not depend on the HA server definitely a plus

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will have to look into this more some other time

naive summit
#

Recommendations for a motion tracker that doesn’t suck? I have the Xiaomi RTCGQ11LM, and both of them keep falling off the network, even the one right next to the coordinator. I’m hesitant to try another Aqara/Xiaomi one after these.

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*Motion Sensor

grim igloo
#

hue motion sensors duh

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ideally the new version since they exist

#

@mellow geode you havent seen any issues with the updated hardware hue motion sensors right?

mellow geode
#

They’re pretty good for me

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The newer ones have a newer chip and better firmware (I think they’re Silicon Labs based now)

grim igloo
#

arent they brand new?

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couple months or so?

mellow geode
#

SML003 and SML004 are the new models. I think they’re out for a year or so?

grim igloo
#

btw i'm curious of your thoughts on the new 1600 lumen stuff

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do you think they're worth $80 a piece?

haughty burrow
#

no

mellow geode
haughty burrow
#

no light is worth $80 bucks

grim igloo
#

I havent been able to justify any hue rgbw bulbs only color temp

#

just curious on your thoughts of the hardware (such as CRI and how bright they are)

haughty burrow
#

they are a rip-off because of the cool factor.

grim igloo
haughty burrow
#

anyone recommend a cheap high quality wled strip?

mellow geode
grim igloo
naive summit
grim igloo
#

no

mellow geode
#

They could but I doubt they will

grim igloo
#

reposts link julian posts

grim igloo
#

but if i had fuck you money i'd prob have all hue rgbw bulbs

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right now i dont even have fuck me money 😦

haughty burrow
#

Dang!! no money for vaseline?

grim igloo
#

my disco kitchen with no rgbw bulbs^

haughty burrow
mellow geode
haughty burrow
#

225 bought 4 bulbs for 165, wtf..

grim igloo
mellow geode
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Nice haha

grim igloo
#

mostly diy esp32 flashed with wled in 3d printed cases

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one for each 3d printer (5), two in kitchen, etc etc

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i dont even use fuses for most of them

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part of it was a test to how much it mattered

haughty burrow
#

so for the p hue fans, how strong is the color saturation in these bulbs?

deep zinc
#

new ones are pretty good

#

mine are terrible 😭

#

if you're US-based you can probably go check out for yourself at home depot or best buy

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not sure elsewhere

haughty burrow
#

cool, I'll check them out. Just want to know why the huge difference in price.

#

does it have photonic viagra?

deep zinc
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oh, that I don't really know. the wiz bulbs have just as good color (though they don't quite line up with the palette the exact same way) and are a ton cheaper. wifi instead of zigbee

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I bought a bunch of those on clearance at home depot (like 30 bulbs for $200) but they're all going back because of other problems

haughty burrow
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I'm wondering if costco sells them.

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haven't really paid attention to these bulbs.

deep zinc
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can't recall seeing them there, and I go a lot

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oh actually I specifically look at the lights there a lot, definitely not

haughty burrow
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yeah, I go at least once every two weeks, but don't pay attention to the high price lights.

molten linden
#

I just expense my bulbs 😂

grim igloo
deep zinc
#

I need to get over having color bulbs everywhere 😂

#

there's no need

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but I want it

haughty burrow
#

need some receipts??

molten linden
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😂

deep zinc
#

the kitchen cabinets with the glass doors and color lightstrips inside are the best though

grim igloo
#

My disco kitchen works fine

haughty burrow
deep zinc
#

I have hue color bulbs in the regular kitchen lights too they're just bad at a bunch of the colors cause they're first gen bulbs

grim igloo
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That’ll fuck up your mesh too

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First gen bulbs are bad at that

deep zinc
#

damn

haughty burrow
#

guys, dumb question, can I setup another zbdongle as a repeater?

grim igloo
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Yes but there’s no point

haughty burrow
#

I'm listening

grim igloo
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No you aren’t

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I gave up teaching you a month ago lol

haughty burrow
#

when I say repeater, I mean extender.

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..and I told you I was going to come back...

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talking your lingo

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🙂

grim igloo
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I give away my time for free til I feel like either the person proves they don’t deserve it or if they refuse to listen and learn

uncut cloud
#

i have ten aqara D1 2 gang smart wall switch (with neutral wire) QBKG24LM,after i change channel zigbee,after removing and re-pairing, interview fails and the device shows up as "unsupported". only 2 device success to interview.
.Interview fails after deleting and re-pairing the same Zigbee device.
Zigbee2MQTT version
Current version: 1.30.1-1
Adapter firmware version
CC2652R_coordinator_20221226
Adapter
Electrolama zig-a-zig-ah! (zzh!)

any suggest to fix it?.thanks

grim igloo
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You checked off a box :/

haughty burrow
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dongle-e, dongle-p, zha, z2m, been there done that...

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z2m kicked my butt

lilac wharf
haughty burrow
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how do I pair it with the coordinator?

lilac wharf
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Put your Zigbee software in pairing mode and plug in the stick to a power source

haughty burrow
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cool

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thank you

mellow geode
deep zinc
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thanks. I wouldn't mind replacing them all except for the cost

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the annoying part is it kinda has to be done a whole room at a time or there are inconsistencies in the light. can't just do a bulb here and there

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most of them are still on the hue bridge right now, just four transferred over. so hopefully they're updated? I don't remember if I have to do it from the app

mellow geode
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ah, they can be updated using ZHA or Z2M too. Not sure what you're running, but you could check the sw_build_id on the Basic cluster. It should be be something containing 101. (then they're up-to-date)

deep zinc
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running ZHA, looks like it's annoying there

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67.101.2

mellow geode
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Yep, that's the latest for those bulbs

deep zinc
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great

grim igloo
mellow geode
deep zinc
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oh that doesn't sound that bad

mellow geode
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(But I'd probably replace them at some point or if you see some weird behavior on your network)

deep zinc
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I've definitely had a few go bad/unreachable but those have been replaced

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probably wait for some good prices and just replace them all.

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or find an adequate replacement

grim igloo
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I don’t love the ‘if it works it works’ answer tbh

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Good ain’t great yo

mellow geode
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I've seen Tuya repeaters that are worse at "repeating" than those 1st gen Hue bulbs, heh

grim igloo
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I ignore tuya’s existence

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In all forms lol