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gray fog
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Tnx it's running now, but why not Zigbee2MQTT? 😮

lilac wharf
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EFR32-based adapters only have experimental support in z2m

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So while it might work, you're more likely to have issues than with a CC2652-based adapter

novel turtle
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not many devices this is why I am, particularly confused at how bad zigbee is performaing

gray fog
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oh bummer really like Zigbee2MQTT and sounds great with home assistant skyconnect updates directly in HA

any suggestions what to use instead with OTA etc

novel turtle
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14 devices , 1 cordinator, 1 hue router, 1 zigbee 3 bulb router, and 2 s26 routers

strange ibex
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what do you mean by OTA?

novel turtle
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and still thr feaking temp sensor for my son, avoids them all

gray fog
strange ibex
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oh, you're looking for suggestions for a zigbee coordinator to use with z2m?

gray fog
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just bought "Home Assistant SkyConnect" usb adapter seems like zigbee2mqtt is experimental for that because of EFR32-based

strange ibex
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yes, I was here. What are you looking for.

lilac wharf
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ZHA supports OTA updates

novel turtle
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@lilac wharf how do you tell it to do them ?

austere patio
strange ibex
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haha

lilac wharf
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I just know that it supports OTA updates

strange ibex
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yeah, if you're after SkyConnect, use ZHA for stability. If you're after z2m, we can suggest stuff for that, lol.

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OTA updates are on both unless I am confused

austere patio
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Z2M has buttons for them, ZHA just auto-updates every device from a few brands if you enable it in config (for now)

strange ibex
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the updates pop up in HA as a notification too, now

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(for z2m)

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I have never used zha so not sure

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wait, puddly just said it's auto if you want

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🙂

gray fog
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ZHA just as great as Zigbee2MQTT?

strange ibex
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we aren't trying to start any fights. /s

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just joking

gray fog
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😂🍿 😉

strange ibex
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I have 0 experience with ZHA

gray fog
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ok 🙂

small solar
strange ibex
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is your zigbee network not working currently? lol

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I just redid my entire zigbee network. everything has always worked with z2m so when I redid it, it wasn't really a thought.

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I'm not really after a new zigbee stick and matter hasn't tempted me with anything yet. 😛

austere patio
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If you're just after the Matter side of the SkyConnect, you don't necessarily have to migrate your Zigbee network over to it

gray fog
small solar
austere patio
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What coordinator are you using (CC2531?)?

small solar
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No, the bigger one,with a seperate antenna chip. 2531 had only like 30 devices before it was full, I'm currently at 53.

austere patio
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With the separate antenna chip? So a CC2538?

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Or the CC2652?

small solar
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Let me check, it's in a cupboard in the attic 😆

strange ibex
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I'm using a ZZH and never had any trouble.

small solar
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Cc2538+cc2593

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2

austere patio
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Yeah, switch to a CC2652 and you'll be fine

novel turtle
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@austere patio u see the image I poste d?

strange ibex
snow basin
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Hi, I need help please

I bought a sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle plus from amazon

I connected it to HA (raspberry pi 4), it’s discovered, when trying to configure zha with it, it say “failed to probe usb”

Can anyone help, please?

deft bane
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For some reason my hue motion sensors keep getting unavailable, they work for some time and then they just break

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All the other lights work fine except the hue motion sensors

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I thought it was my sonoff switch but i unplugged that now and now it's broken again

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It's a SML001

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and this time they worked for 2/3 weeks and then they broke

strange ibex
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zha/z2m? you're pairing it where it is being used?

deft bane
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zha and yes i'm pairing it where it's being used

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i also thought that it was the hue hub that was still plugged in but i'll try if it's that tommorow

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but it's so strange that's it's only the motion sensors

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I might just go back to the hue hub

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It just works and then suddenly it goes to unavailable and then the state will always be detected

strange ibex
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weird. I don't use zha but I use one with z2m for around 18 months now

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are you able to see what firmware is on it?

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"installed_version": "6.1.1.27575",

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I think that's mine

deft bane
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And i did try to update the firmware on the dongle when i got it, but didn't succeed in that either

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it might also be a faulty stick, i got it from aliexpress, it's the zigbee dongle 3 plus

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Is the conbee 2 stick better?

deft bane
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I feel like it's the stick, because getting into the boot loader is also impossible

shadow orchid
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I always hear recommendations towards the conbee

deft bane
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it's 2 euros more expensive than the official sonoff one so it's also an option

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idk if it would solve my issues tho

whole slate
sour shadow
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That's under the Tasmota heading, so nowhere

whole slate
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Thx!

hollow rover
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Is anyone using the Aqara thermostat and getting this warning Symbol on the display?

humble tinsel
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Has anyone been able to get an IR remote working in ZHA?

cerulean thorn
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Have anyone had issues with Z2M refuse to update battery / end devices? I have two hue remotes I put 30 cm from the Tube POE controller and they go about 50% before failing. I tried 10+ times now

near echo
humble tinsel
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Its the Moes UFO-R11

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It works great with Z2M but haven’t been able to get it working with ZHA

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I use it to control my ACs

bright pelican
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Heya all, slightly random question

I have a Philips Hue motion sensor (the first gen model, SML001) connected to a SkyConnect and ZHA. It’s controlling some lights via the occupancy sensor. It works great but the occupancy timeout is really short - but I can’t see where to adjust it! There’s no setting in the UI I can find. Is it somewhere obscure?

near echo
humble tinsel
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It also checks for lux first so that it avoids from turning on when there is enough daylight

bright pelican
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Looking at node-red now. Does it offer any additional capabilities over native-to-HA automations, or is the appeal mostly the easier UI?

humble tinsel
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You can install plugins to enhance features. For me it is easier to make the automations as you can lay them out. But thats personal preference.

bright pelican
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I'm a coder so the code-y tools in HA don't scare me... but I hear you 😄

humble tinsel
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I would like to do the same but i just lack to fully understand code. I get some of it but there hasn’t been a click in my brain to fully understand on how it is put together.

lusty trench
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Is anyone else having problem with setting schedule for a week in smart radiator thermostats? using format "
06:00/17 12:30/22 14:00/20 24:00/24" in 2mqtt?

lusty trench
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Also looks like my automations cannot control thermostat? I can control exact option in 2mqtt and then thermostat foir example heating boost, but once it is in automations i cannot start heating boost by that automation hmm, looks like a permision problem or something like that?

novel turtle
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@austere patio thanks for the help, everything is meshing correctly now

vast yoke
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risking to ask the dumbest question ever in here, here I go. When I got a zigbee coordinator that supports PoE, do I connect the eth cable from it to the HASS PC, or to my router? Asking because I tried option 1 but not even the eth LEDs switch on. So I'm clearly missing something... 😅

austere patio
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You need a PoE switch to use PoE devices

sour shadow
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Or a PoE injector

vast yoke
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Not clear. Does that mean the coordinator is plugged to my switch/router? NOT to my HASS PC. Correct>

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?

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🥲 thanks

sour shadow
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The coordinator, it gets power from a PoE switch

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You do have a PoE switch?

vast yoke
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no idea, checking rn

austere patio
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If you don't know, you probably don't

vast yoke
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I just thought the coordinator was connected to the PC, not to the switch/router

sour shadow
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No

lilac wharf
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No, that would be a USB one

vast yoke
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well, my coordinator has both options tbh

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I just thought using eth would be nicer

sour shadow
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Then use the USB option - on a USB extension cable - until you buy a PoE switch

vast yoke
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not planning to get a switch for that. Is it really better? I mean, what's the benefit?

sour shadow
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Moves it away from all the RF noise from the computer

vast yoke
austere patio
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Passive USB also maxes out at like 10-15 feet but you can run an Ethernet cable for much longer. If your house is already wired with Ethernet, you can stick the coordinator into another room and just plug it in. Can't do that easily with USB.

lilac wharf
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PoE is brilliant

winged granite
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What are the best zigbee radiators that are working perfectly with HA and zigbee2mqtt? Any experiences?

shy summit
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I’ve a Miele cooking field that has a connectivity module XKS 3000 Z which I think speaks ZigBee. Has anyone tried to connect this to a ZigBee network other than the one from Miele‘s gateway itself?

terse crystal
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just updated my Zigbee2MQTT in HA and now it isn't starting 😦

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damn

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TypeError: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'options')

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hmm, commented out the SPP02.js external converter

crimson dust
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Hm is it still necessary to downgrade the zha quirk version when using the Aqara Smartplugs in HA? It show up as 0W and 0 kWh

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I have done it to my first Aqara smartplug that I bought some months ago and got it working. My Second smartplug worked out in the box.. and now this 3rd not working

mighty river
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Hi, I have a dimmer "model": "TS0601" and want to set the attribute: On with transition false
Installed ZHA Toolkit but am overwhelmed to be honest 😄

viral ermine
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hi, i just attached a new SkyConnect (with a long USB cable) to my HA installation. It auto installed. I then went ahead and added an IKEA Tradfri shortcut button. It joined the network just fine.

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but now I want to validate if the button actually sends presses.

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previously I would use the z2mqtt logs for that, but now I cant really see 'it doing things' in HA

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is there an equivalent way to debug/look at logs with SkyConnect?

sour shadow
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You're using ZHA, SkyConnect is just the stick

rapid dawnBOT
viral ermine
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@sour shadow thank you for reading my question, can you now read the last line, which is actually my question?

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with z2mqtt i can at least attach realtime to the logs (as it runs in docker) and see what is going on. Is that possible with ZHA?

sterile sleet
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Can you read exactly what the people are trying to say to you? Before shouting out your current status again?

viral ermine
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@sterile sleet if that's directed towards me, i don't understand the agression.

sterile sleet
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Read the stuff people tell you

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No idea why you still ramble about z2m when you are using zha now

viral ermine
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Ah, thanks, I think we miscommunicated there. I'm saying I used to use zigbee2mqtt. There I had the logging of the docker container, allowing me to see exactly what each device was doing on the network, which was great for 'validating' if things where going right.
Now I switched to ZHA, and my button doesnt work (as a completely new entity, all fresh, so no i'm not relying on old entity id's) and I want to debug why.

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The button enrolled just fine, it just seems not to transmit any events into home assistant.

lilac wharf
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ZHA doesn't expose an entity for button presses like z2m does, so you'll want to listen for zha_event at developer tools > events

viral ermine
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thanks. zha_event is silent

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(to be clear i'm even subscribing to * and going through the list manually to make sure I don't miss it by searching for the wrong identifier. Nothing in the events that has anything to do with zigbee, but enough events to know that eventing is working fine :))

lilac wharf
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Subscribe to zha_event

viral ermine
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yes, i'm using that, and it is not sending any events.

lilac wharf
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In that case, enable debug logging for ZHA which is explained in the link tinkerer shared above

viral ermine
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is there a difference between that manual step and the 'right click menu' in the devices config 'enable debug logging' ?

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debuglog on, lets restart HA and see.

brave fossil
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i have a cheapo Qnect zigbee "limate sensor" that seems dead. I changed the battery etc but no idea how to restart the device since the button does not do anything.. Can i just reset the esp inside and hope it starts normally

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are these devices really so crappy or has somebody managed to fix a dead device

viral ermine
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@lilac wharf I cant find the button clicks in the logs. I see the device being inited by zigpy, it loads the quirks for it (the right ones even)

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but after that, just a whole lot of nothing 🙂

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(i'm assuming zigpy is the daemon that should handle all zigbee packets, if not, lemme know what I should query for)

lilac wharf
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Try re-pairing the device

viral ermine
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i did that three times already 😉

mellow geode
true girder
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found your old message, nevermind

lilac wharf
viral ermine
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A IKEA Tradfri 2022-12-11 15:03:11.543 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.appdb] [0xdc02:1:0x0000] Attribute id: 5 value: TRADFRI SHORTCUT Button

true girder
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How many Zigbee devices are connected to ZHA?

viral ermine
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this one 🙂 (plus the SkyConnect stick I guess?)

true girder
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You mentioned you were using z2m, so assuming you use ZHA

viral ermine
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I got a new, reset IKEA button and connected it to ZHA, because I dont want to break my z2m setup 🙂

true girder
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So you have 2 sticks?

viral ermine
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yes.

true girder
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Okay

viral ermine
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one is connected to a totally different system running z2m

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and that talks mqtt to HA

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(and is currently down)

true girder
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Unpair the button from ZHA, let's try somehting

humble tinsel
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Is it one of those on and off buttons

true girder
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Do you have access to your Z2M Web panel right now?

humble tinsel
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Quick press ones?

viral ermine
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yes @humble tinsel

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single press and long press

humble tinsel
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You need to listen to the events on zha as it is not exposing the presses

viral ermine
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@humble tinsel sure but no events are emitted

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thanks though! this was my first test too 🙂

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@true girder gimme a sec 😛

true girder
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no problem!

humble tinsel
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This was explained by someone yesterday. Let me quickly search. In z2m it works. In zha it is not exposed

viral ermine
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@humble tinsel well some signal should come into ZHA right

true girder
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ZHA has bad handling of buttons IMO. Personally, I use Z2M with 2 aquara buttons.

viral ermine
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i would expect to at least see the packet

true girder
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99% of the time it doesn't work right

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ZHA is great, but not for buttons

viral ermine
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this is also a good answer for me. also reason why i didnt destroy my Z2M setup yet

true girder
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What makes you want to switch to ZHA?

viral ermine
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well I thought a magic blue USB dongle with HA logo would make 'things easier'

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as things with Z2M are not specifically very easy always 😛

true girder
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oh you have one of those?

viral ermine
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yes 🙂

crimson dust
true girder
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If you're asking me - my advice is to nuke your Z2M and pair everything to ZHA - but keep a small Z2M instance for novelty items such as buttons and some weird sensors

viral ermine
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yeah i'll keep the ikea buttons in Z2M but move my water switches into ZHA

true girder
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If you have the SkyConnect ZHA should be stupid easy and straightforward for basic things (switches, plugs, lights, locks, sensors, etc.)

viral ermine
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I hoped too! and it was for everything up to the point where I wanted to use the button 😄

true girder
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  • when it's available, matter and thread support will be awesome!!
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If you do need another cheap dongle to run Z2M on, I recommend the Sonoff ZB dongle thing (i can send link if you'd like) as it works great with ZHA and it's super cheap

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I'd also stay very clear from deCONZ and ConBee sticks as i've never gotten one to work, and other people say they are very flakey

brave fossil
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i got 2x those SONOFF and it's pretty good

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metallic housing

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no hickups, and there are even instructions available on how to upgrade the firmware

true girder
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I especially like it because it plays well with ESXi, could never get conbee to pass through right

humble tinsel
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Z2M just exposes more. ZHA does not. The support for Z2M is also faster. New devices are added quicker with more features.

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That’s how i’ve been experiencing it.

true girder
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I'd like to say ZHA is the "apple" of zigbee . Less device support, but when there is, it works great.
Z2M supports basically everything, but you can't always guarantee it will work right.

brave fossil
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( got my Qnect zigbee "climate sensor" working. i just had to bend the battery contacts a bit)

viral ermine
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thanks for all the help guys. i'll revert back to z2m for my buttons. sorry for wasting peoples time that feel annoyed by my questions. i'll leave now.

true girder
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good luck with your zigbee adventures 🙂

humble tinsel
deft bane
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I can't seem to get my sonoff zigbee dongle 3.0 plus to update firmware. First of all, in device manager the dongle is seen as USB-Enhanced-SERlALCH9102 (COM5) and in the flasher software every time i try to flash the firmware it says failed. Could anyone help?

true girder
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sure! Is the stick connected somewhere? (zha, zigbee2mqtt)

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It should show up as Silicon Labs <blah>

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Do you have a serial programmer connected to it?

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Also, why are you updating the stick?

deft bane
humble tinsel
true girder
deft bane
deft bane
true girder
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Chances are if it's from aliexpress, it's been sitting in a warehouse for a while

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Do you have the ZBDongle-E or ZBDongle-P?

deft bane
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Ah, also I just remembered why i wanted to update it now. I was trying to setup zigbee2mqtt instead of zha but got an error

deft bane
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v1.0

true girder
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It should work fine with z2m. I personally use it.

lilac wharf
viral ermine
deft bane
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I got this error and most issues on github said to update it Error while starting zigbee-herdsman

deft bane
lilac wharf
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For the E version, yes

true girder
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yes, it is

deft bane
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oops

lilac wharf
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Keep in mind the E version only has experimental support in z2m

deft bane
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Will try that now

lilac wharf
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You're more likely to run into issues with that than with a CC2652-based adapter

true girder
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I've used both just fine. Don't do something crazy and you should be fine. Expect crashes and bugs as with any experimental software

viral ermine
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(i'll see if i can debug why the heck zha doesnt like these buttons and perhaps submit a PR)

humble tinsel
viral ermine
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i'll see what z2m did to make them fly and then port that over to zha 🙂

humble tinsel
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I’m kinda doing the same. I got the blue stick also and giving zha a full go

lilac wharf
viral ermine
deft bane
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getting a different error now Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-12-11 15:49:43: Error: Failure send setConfigurationValue:{"type":"Buffer","data":[7,0,1,83,0,12,2,0]} at /app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/ezsp/driver/ezsp.ts:516:23 at Queue.executeNext (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/utils/queue.ts:32:32)

true girder
deft bane
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Hmm still the same error after switching usb ports and setting the port to /dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20220816184613-if00

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oh the zha intergration was still on

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-12-11 16:11:35: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...``` new error yay
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it works :)

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What's the technique to put hue bulbs into pairing mode so they get the detected in zigbee2mqtt?

opal pivot
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Hi there, I'm using HA with Zigbee2MQTT and have gotten everything to work pretty well. I'm using IKEA tradfri smart bulbs, some RGB, some color temp only and some just brightness. I noticed that when trying to activate scenes sometimes it won't apply the scene all the way, for example if a bulb is supposed to be dimmed to say 50% it'll go down to like 65 until I activate the scene a second time. Similarly with colors, sometimes it will only transition to a color on the rgb bulbs about 90% of the way there.
Does anyone have an idea what could be going on here?

mellow geode
crimson dust
mellow geode
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You should update the firmware anyway probably. Otherwise, you can try downgrading the plug. I've posted a guide in some GitHub issue

odd mango
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(circuit breaker with power meter)

mellow geode
crimson dust
mellow geode
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Configure an otau_folder (https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/wiki/OTA-Device-Firmware-Updates#enabling-ota-updates), put the OTA file from my comment in that folder and then restart HA.
After restarting, enable debug logs (https://dpaste.org/VQoKz/raw) and then send an image_notify command to the plug. See the "Manually initiating OTA firmware update" section.
You can then watch at ZHA debug logs to see how far the plug is with updating. If it's finished, it'll restart (but you don't want that), so remove the OTA file, as soon as it's restarting and unplug the plug (then restart HA).

true girder
true girder
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@odd mango after further inspection, it looks that that is a wi-fi breaker, with Tuya. It might be compatible with Tasmota if you're willing to open it up.

crimson dust
mellow geode
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What HA version are you running?

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You can also use the service call that's listed there.

deft bane
crimson dust
# mellow geode What HA version are you running?

The zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command? Ok cool. But about the logging, the loggs is written down in the home-assistant.log-file righ? How do I follow it in real time in order to know when it restarts?

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I open/close the file and search for "OTA upgrade progress" seems to work 😄

mighty river
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attribute On with transition

crimson dust
mellow geode
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nice!

pine swan
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Have there been any breaking changes with sensors in the last few HA versions? Both of my door sensors have stopped working. The Sonoff one had nothing in the logs and wouldn't reconfigure. Doing an add-device and factory resetting it worked and it's reporting 100% battery after 6 months use (suspicious?) When I open the door, nothing shows up in the logs

deft bane
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I'm trying to bind a Hue Dimmer Switch to a lightbulb group, but i keep getting this error Failed to bind cluster 'genLevelCtrl' from '0x0017880104e54641' to 'bathroom_lights' (Error: Bind 0x0017880104e54641/1 genLevelCtrl from '1' failed ({"address":368,"clusterId":32801,"sequence":118} after 10000ms))

mellow geode
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did you press a button on the switch to wake it up?

deft bane
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Oops that was the problem, but it still doesn't control the lights unfortunately

mellow geode
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If it’s an older dimmer, you need to unbind it from the coordinator first, as it can only be bound to one device (or one group)

echo canopy
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hi guys
i have this problem and i don't know what to do
Error setting up entry ConBee II for zha
i'm running HA on Oracle VM on Windows PC and i'm using ConBee_II stick yesterday everything ware working fine
i already tried restarting HA and The Host PC and reloading the integration nothing seems to help
would be very grateful if you guys could help me with that or tell me how to search for fix
i found this but don't know how to fix it
https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/64724

deft bane
mellow geode
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Press unbind and directly after that a button on the remote

deft bane
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For the coordinator it says nothing to unbind

shy vale
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Anyone had any issues when writing out a command via Zigbee2mqtt ? - Ive got a situation where sometimes the command sticks and sometimes it doesn't ! - I'm setting a temperature on a TRV. Sometimes it changes to the temp I want to set - sometimes it leaves it as it was - but the mqtt log says it did it.

cerulean thorn
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Any suggestion for a zigbee (or zwave) outside device. Can be powered or battery, that is noe HUE. It require motion, lux, temperature and humidity. Hue doesnt have humidity by some reason

winged granite
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What are the best zigbee thermostats working home assistant and zigbee2mqtt? any experiences?

golden vapor
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Hey guys, looking for some guidance with an issue please..

The pro-longed power outages in South Africa is affecting my Zigbee network in the sense that the network isn't healing from a device that's lost power and connecting to the coordinator directly.

Any suggestions?

cerulean thorn
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a UPS?

golden vapor
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The Optiplex running my HA has backup battery, but I have end devices (door contacts) that connect to Aqara light switches between the coordinator and end device. When power goes out, the light switch goes off and my end devices aren't "trying" to connect directly to the coordinator (which is on backup power)

austere patio
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What coordinator are you using?

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There's no way to force routes with a Zigbee network, devices are free to connect and re-connect however they want once they've joined

golden vapor
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CC2652RB coordinator

austere patio
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Ah. Unlike many other sensors, older Aqara specifically won't reconnect to a new router if their parent goes offline

golden vapor
austere patio
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Are you also using Aqara sensors? Or just the light switches?

golden vapor
cerulean thorn
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That is the reason why I did throw out all Aqara. Pro, small and very easy to change battery. Con. disconnects too often

austere patio
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Hmm, that's a different scenario. And the door sensors are not trying to re-connect to the coordinator?

golden vapor
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That's correct yes.. The power be out for +3-4 hours at a time and still they don't try and connect to the coordinator.

austere patio
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How far away is the coordinator?

golden vapor
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You might think that the contacts are just too far to connect, but they're literally no further than the actual light switch

golden vapor
austere patio
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Is the power currently off? What happens if you pull the batteries out of a sensor and put them back in, to reboot it?

golden vapor
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I have 1 contact that is ~7m from coordinator and it's connected directly to the coordinator. Another one, +- the same distance to the coordinator, but there's a switch between the 2, and so that one connects to the switch instead of directly to coordinator

golden vapor
golden vapor
cerulean thorn
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I changed to sonoff. They work flawless with new batteries, but a bit bigger

austere patio
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That's the opposite of what most people experience when it comes to sensors 😆

golden vapor
cerulean thorn
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I really dont have any issues with them. I changed the batteries once in two years (to varta batteries), and never fell off once with Z2M

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The motion sensor sucks though

golden vapor
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I fear that this Zigbee solution might not be possible with all the power outages ☹️

austere patio
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Why not relocate the coordinator centrally and then connect all devices directly to it by selectively opening the network for joins?

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You won't be able to prevent sensors from re-connecting to other routers if they feel like it, but if they aren't to begin with, it seems like they'll similarly stick to the coordinator

cerulean thorn
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with power outages you can NOT have aquara. They just dont play nice with router changes

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I small UPS on HA would keep it alive for hours

golden vapor
golden vapor
austere patio
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Devices should be scanning for new routers if their parent goes offline, though I think this was only really standardized with Zigbee 3.0, and the multipurpose sensors appear to have been certified a few years before 3.0 was released

cerulean thorn
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But aquara with purpose didnt even follow the original standard by going into hibernation if they cant find their old parent after the first try

golden vapor
austere patio
golden vapor
cerulean thorn
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oh okay

golden vapor
austere patio
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The identical-looking Aeotec multipurpose sensor appears to be 3.0. I don't have experience with it though, since certification alone doesn't mean as much as it should, unfortunately.

golden vapor
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Yeah, indeed it doesn't always - but it might just solve the issue in this case..

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So I just want clarify: In a perfect scenario with latest zigbee certification, end device should immediately (or perhaps within 20 mins) try and heal itself?

austere patio
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In a perfect scenario, yeah. They'll eventually start scanning for new routers if theirs is offline when they wake up and try to talk to it.

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I don't know if the positioning of the coordinator relative to the sensor could be a problem, though. It could very well be seeing the coordinator but refusing to pick it as a router due to poor signal strength.

golden vapor
austere patio
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That should be easy if they're door sensors, though they should also be configured to send temperature reports a couple of times per hour, which will have the same effect.

golden vapor
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Aah, okay cool. I'm gonna dig a bit more into it tomorrow then. Thank you so much for the help @austere patio and @cerulean thorn. 🙌

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I'll report back here if I do or don't solve the issue anyways.. Maybe some other imaginative idea comes to light

austere patio
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Good luck. Hopefully the old ones magically start working

robust ice
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Hi guys, I am new to the Zigbee world and decided to go with Zigbee2MQTT, I got it working and good, now I want to add more devices.
Question: Browsing Aliexpress I found "Rain Seer Tuya Zigbee Garden Home Irrigation Zigbee" However this is not listed under supported device of Z2M page, is it safe to assume it i not supported then?
Thank you!

shadow orchid
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I’m pretty sure it supports basically anything zigbee

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But I haven’t used it that’s just what I hear…

mighty river
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Hello, does anyone have some experience with the Philips Hue lightbulbs? i bought a 3 pack of lights, 2 of them are immediately found by ZHA but 1 never shows up.

lilac wharf
proper stream
icy tusk
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If a zigbee device shows as "unavailable", is there anything I can do short of physically going to the device in question and pushing the pairing button?

glossy lintel
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thanks @sour shadow 🙂

rapid dawnBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

glossy lintel
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I'm reading the pinned posts and found a list of devices thanks to you

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cool

onyx cove
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I have encountered interesting bug/feature, HA keeps setting my dimmer to lowest brightness because it trims brightness to 0-254 while my dimmer appears to run in 0-65535 (16bit) range

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anyone heard about such stuff?

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I threw in recalculated_level = int(level/255*65535) in ZHA light.py and now it works, but then it will break for 8bit dimmers

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surprisingly it reads dimmer level correctly, when I molest knob manually

vast yoke
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I've just installed my 2 first aqara door sensors, the 1st one seems perfect, but the 2nd one has been recognised by z2m as a Binary sensor instead, and it's not reporting battery, temperature, or any of the other things. Does that mean it's faulty? Can I do something to fix it?

sour shadow
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ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT?

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(both sensors are binary_sensor entities)

vast yoke
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well, I just noticed the card in lovelace is different. The first one showed the power_outages entity, and it was called Front Door, but on the 2nd one only the switch state is shown, and it was called Binary sensor. Maybe that's not relevant.

But still, if I go into state, battery status is N/A, as well as voltage, temp... etc. And all those are reported in sensor 1.

sour shadow
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Probably related to the device_class, but ... are you using ZHA or are you using Zigbee2MQTT?

vast yoke
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I edited my original post and said z2m

sour shadow
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Then look in the Z2M UI at both devices and see whether they're the same model and both completed interview

vast yoke
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both identical. Both Interviewed "True", both exact same model, same Zigbee, same firm version.

sour shadow
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Look at the relevant Device page in HA then

vast yoke
#

anything I can paste to you that helps? Not sure what to look at.

sour shadow
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Check the device class of the binary sensor entities

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Check to see if the missing entities are disabled

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Also, are all the values N/A in Z2M as well as HA?

vast yoke
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the entities don't even appear in HA

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they report null in the debug info

sour shadow
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And in Z2M?

vast yoke
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in State, they don't appear. They show up when I check "Exposes", all in N/A

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let me know if a screenshot might help

sour shadow
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Time to re-interview them in Z2M

vast yoke
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ok

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Remove device?

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Yes! Forced removed it, reinterviewed, and now everything shows up. I guess it was one of these silly tech things. Thanks @sour shadow

idle ice
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Hey all, is there a possibility to extract my existing zigbee network from my hue bridge and transfer it to the home assistant skyconnect which just arrived? I guess this is not easily possible and I will have to move device after device but I thought it's worth to ask here first.

frosty harness
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More or less same question: Can I keep my network from my Raspbee II (using the ZHA extension) and use it with my SkyConnect? ZHA has a migrate functionality between radios, but SkyConnect isn't listed as compatible with ZHA, which extension is it using? The setup instructions link for the SkyConnect sadly isn't working.

molten linden
molten linden
frosty harness
sour shadow
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From the ZHA side it's just another coordinator, it's not special

molten linden
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I think they stuck it behind a Brand thing

frosty harness
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So I switched over to the new radio in HA and keep getting different "Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>" messages in my logs -- no Zigbee interaction is working. For example when trying to run the reconfiguration of a power outlet I get

WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0x9BB7:3:0x1000]: Couldn't get list of groups: Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>

and the process fails with "The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs." Not sure where to start debugging this.

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I just plugged in the SkyConnect (which got detected as /dev/ttyUSB0), added it to my devices in my docker config, restarted the container and used the ZHA radio migration. There was no issue during that process.

shadow valley
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anyone using the namron panel heaters over zigbee? i have a problem where the reported temperature in the room is above the set temperature, but still the heater kicks in and starts heating

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there's something called hysterersis, but that's set up to 5 C.. and i'm not able to lower it. but it seems like the unit is 0.1oC.. so i'm guessing that a setting of 5 actually means 0.5 C

frosty harness
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Well, seems like I have to re-pair all devices. Tried to reload a different backup from the previous radio, still not working, but manually re-pairing devices works

idle ice
sour shadow
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What are those devices?
What coordinator are you using?
Are you using Zigbee2MQTT, ZHA, or deCONZ?

radiant lichen
#

Is there a consensus of what might be the 'best' zigbee dongle/interface at the moment?

lilac wharf
radiant lichen
ocean dust
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Quick ask - If I run HA in Hyper-V VM (so no access to USB) is not using some bridge even possible? If it is possible I must have misread something, if not possible what is the best alternative route to follow then?

sour shadow
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Get a network connected Zigbee coordinator

strange bay
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I have a zigbee Kwikset lock. I'm using ZHA. It was discovered fine, and works, but I cannot set user codes via HA. When I had this attached using Hubitat (which I'm converting over from) I was able to set user codes. Is this just a limitation of ZHA, is there a better way to integrate my zigbee devices so I can set the user codes via HA?

tropic depot
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you should be able to issue the command directly

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go to the 3 dots on the device card

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go into manage zigbee device -> commands tab

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I think there is a service in HA for this too in the developer tools menu

strange bay
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Yes developer tools had a way to do it

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thanks

forest nova
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I'm using a Conbee II with Deconz/Phoscon integration. All works flawlessly except ONE thing. Everything that's been deleted in the past (and therefor not showing up in nor Deconz, nor Phoscon) still shows up in de deconz integration as a device.
Rebooting doesn't work, reloading doesn't work. Does anyone recognize this problem and maybe has a fix.

I found a thread in the forums that talks about editing a file in the .storage folder using File Editor, but i seem to only see the config folder?

jolly narwhal
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Interesting, suddenly my zigbee mesh has started behaving poorly, and I have a lot of (Data request failed with error: 'MAC channel access failure' (225) in the logs

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which would seem like interference

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but makes no sense for it to suddenly appear

sour shadow
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Have you tried turning off the neighbours houses?

jolly narwhal
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Oh shit

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let me try

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I have not introduced any new wireless devices nor access points in my house at least

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so curious if this is a firmware issue

austere patio
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Did your APs change channels?

jolly narwhal
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Not likely as they are Deco X60s that require me to actively do "wifi optimization"

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Let me check what channel they are on currently

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So, APs are on channel 9

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let me check what channel my zigbee uses

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Zigbee uses channel 20

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which apparently is pretty close 🤔

sour shadow
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Yeah... I was about to say

austere patio
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It's right in the middle 😄

jolly narwhal
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wonder how that happened

austere patio
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That's why you should ditch WiFi and just use Zigbee. 250 kbit/s is all you really need.

jolly narwhal
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Reminds me of surfiing porn in the 90s

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let me try to do "wifi optimization" in the deco app

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because it used to be on channel 6 I'm pretty sure

sour shadow
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Optimising screwing up Check_mark

jolly narwhal
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now it swapped to channel 2

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that is far off from zigbee 20

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so should be good Shrug

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HOLY SHIT

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that fixed it immediatly

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now it is more snappy than a 3 year old with ADHD

sour shadow
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I'm surprised you let it pick channels and didn't force it

jolly narwhal
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the deco doesn't let you select

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it did channel 6 on install and I found that to be fine

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heck, they were $100 for 3x Wifi6 mesh APs

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😄

austere patio
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Maybe move it next to a microwave, crack the door a little, and let it auto-select until it selects a normal WiFi channel?

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2 isn't that great either for nearby 2.4GHz APs

jolly narwhal
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I could just tell my MIL to send me her old microwave, we've bought her a new one for christmas, the one she had from 1993 killed the baby monitor when we visited last time KEK

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Maybe I should just buy some unifi acce PU_PepePuke

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can't even say it

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it's out of the picture

plain latch
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hi folks. I just got my home assistant SkyConnect dongle and was wondering if I could migrate my zigbee devices over to that (I'm using z2m) without having to re-pair all 80ish devices

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but I'm a bit unclear what kind of chip is in the skyconnect stick

shadow orchid
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The only thing I see related to SkyConnect is it being announced and not actually available yet, how did you get one?

tropic depot
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skyconnect is an SI chipset (ezsp)

shadow orchid
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ahhh

ocean dust
sour shadow
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The Ikea hub supports Ikea

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ZHA or Z2M supports ... everything

austere patio
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Ethernet coordinators superficially look like any other hub but they're really just like a USB adapter over Ethernet, they don't do anything on their own

ocean dust
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OK clear - at least not all the entries on the list are Chinese...

shadow orchid
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I just got a zigbee hub from @molten linden 's website. Ordered it Friday and it's almost here already, USPS is delayed but its not his fault.

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Its pretty freakin beefy

ocean dust
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@molten linden ships from US right?

molten linden
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yes East coast

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priority mail or ground ups if it's a better eta (basically 2-300 mile range around me)

plain latch
austere patio
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It does work with Z2M, support is just very new

nova crest
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Two different times now, I've restarted my VM w/ HAOS on it and Z2M in an add-on, and when it comes up, one of the devices is completely gone from Z2M, not just unavailable.... it doesn't appear at all in the Devices list anymore

ocean dust
molten linden
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west coast is almost always priority mail which is anywhere from 2-5+ days right now (holidays sigh) even if the label says 2 or 3.

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@ocean dust from me to Olympia, Washington only took 3 days last week - dropped off on the 6th, arrived on the 9th so..🤷🏼‍♂️ kind of dependent on your local USPS service in most instances.

rancid warren
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Using roughly 60 ikea zigbee bulbs atm…noticing issues with connectivity or something cause sometimes I can’t turn the lights on or off
Where would I start to faultfind? Like it works 99% of the time but that last percentage is really annoying.
Any tips or tricks would be appreciated 😅
Oh using a separate raspberry pi 3 with conbee 2 usb stick with an extension

true girder
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First, I'd probably step away from ConBee. Not only is it designed for smaller networks, it sometimes just doesn't work.

I'd look into some of the sonoff sticks, and use ZHA. Or, you could buy a Phillips Hue Hub, and a cheap iPhone/Android app to enable touch link. There's a script I made to do so, but the app is so much more elegant.

edit: app is named "Hue Essentials". I'm a huge fan of hue, just because it uses a local API and you're not forced to make an account, or connect it to the cloud. Plus, it comes with some pretty nice scenes if you have color lights.

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Also, try to "optimize" your network. This may take a couple hours, or even days, depending on the size of your network. If you're using ZHA, there's a setting in the coordinator control to do this. Z2M, (as far as I know) there isn't a way to do this practically. Ideally, you'd have everything close together with a direct connection to the coordinator. Z2M's "map" feature can help with this. I've never used deCONZ, so you might have to check the documentation for that.

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I've noticed personally, some Ikea TRADFRI lights play better than others. Some lights can be farther from the controller and work fine, some can't. The huge frosted globe ones (completely forgot the name) tend to play well with my coordinator, and the standard color bulb does too. The cheap white ones are the only ones I run into issues with. Some of them play better than others, so keep the ones that don't closer to your coordinator.

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To faultfind, the map and ZigBee logs are really what's going to help you. Find random dropouts, and find devices that aren't playing very well. Really, just walk around with your phone and laptop, and turn on and off, change the brightness, and if applicable color, and just see what happens. If it drops from the map, pull it out and set it aside. If it works, move to the next light.

For the ones that don't work, try to repair them. If they still don't work, try moving a desk lamp near your coordinator and plug it in there. If it still doesn't, it's most likely the light. This is usually my troubleshooting process for lights.

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I've always wanted to use their stuff, but it's just not practical enough for me to use 😅

shadow orchid
true girder
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For me, at least.

shadow orchid
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hmm

true girder
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My ZigBee network isn't very big

shadow orchid
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mines coming tomorrow lol

true girder
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neat!

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have fun!

shadow orchid
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ill have a whopping like...

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4 plugs, 2 bulbs (for now) and 2 motion sensors lmao

old kernel
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Ahoy folks! Being bad at searching, curious if anyone knows off hand... i have a half dozen new ikea blinds. I added them all to ZHA at the same time, but 3 of them keep falling off the network (showing "Zha Event was fired" and then immediately after that, "became unavailable", the rest seem to keep working
Is there some trick with these ikea things?

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using a sonoff 2652 stick with 20210708 firmware apparently

old kernel
#

upgraded my firmware to 20221102... will see if that fixes it

molten linden
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do the blinds still ship with the repeaters? I believe others have had to join them directly through the repeaters to get them to work reliably.

molten linden
austere patio
old kernel
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the blinds ship with repeaters yes, none would join the network at all until i added them through a repeater

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Thanks tube I had missed that crashing bug, guess I'll go back to the stable firmware from February tomorrow

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The other thing I notice is that the ones that are working post a 'checkin event was fired' every hour or so, the ones that eventually drop off don't do that.

silk gull
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Hey guys, looking for a little help, new to Zigbee. I purchased a new SonOff Zigbee usb stick plugged it in and added ZHA on my HA install. It looks to work and see the stick fine but trying to pair an Aquara motion sensor and it cant find it. I have the sensor a foot away and I know it has power but it just times out searching. Did I miss something.

austere patio
silk gull
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Maybe that’s the part I missed but I held the button for 3 seconds.

austere patio
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Hold it until after the third blink, should take like five seconds

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And refresh the "add device" page right before you begin resetting the sensor

silk gull
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Okay thanks I will try that.

plain latch
austere patio
# plain latch at least for how I read https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/issues/319 it ...

You need to install the multiprotocol addon, configure auto firmware flashing within the addon config, and then start it. It exposes a TCP port on tcp://core-silabs-multiprotocol:9999, to which Z2M can connect to like any other TCP coordinator. Z2M can't (and never will) natively connect to the stick because the stick offloads the Zigbee firmware to the host, which needs to run in an addon.

gloomy dirge
#

one quick question. How can I receive all events from zigbee2mqtt on nodered ? I want to switch from deconz. Now I have a events: all with deconz_event set up

sour shadow
gloomy dirge
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if I have node-red addon, I still need to add it on homeassistant at addons ?

plain latch
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because I don't really feel like re-pairing 80ish devices

austere patio
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If you have two coordinators, that's definitely the way to go. There's no Thread-only firmware yet but you can just flash the multiprotocol firmware and...not use the Zigbee half

plain latch
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I don't have any Thread devices yet, so I'm not in a hurry

austere patio
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Matter is only now (as in yesterday, for Eve) trickling in via beta firmware updates to some existing devices. The market is still catching up 😆

plain latch
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yeah, I mainly wanted to have a Thread radio so Thread was an option

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my existing Zigbee install works fine, and I doubt IKEA will roll out Thread firmware to the lights in a hurry

austere patio
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I don't think they will at all (at least for this generation of devices), they'll probably be rolling out firmware for their bridge to expose them to the Matter fabric via that

plain latch
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I think they launched a new bridge for that, I doubt they'll do anything to the old bridge

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to be honest, my main reason to start with HA was that the old bridge was struggling with the lights I had, at least for scenes and automations

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like I managed to lock the thing up to a level where I needed to do a factory reset when I tried to configure an automation that contained > 24 lights

foggy solar
#

What’s the verdict on Skyconnect for those that got one? Worth keeping an eye out and replacing Conbee 2 with one?

sour shadow
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If you're using ZHA, quite probably (though it's likely too early to be sure). If you're using Z2M, no.

south moth
#

Hi. What is the status on Ikea Fyrtur curtain support in ZHA? I can’t find a blueprint.

sour shadow
south moth
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My question is more : does this work stably. I’ve heard people had issues with the curtains integration

sour shadow
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Ah... well... working has nothing to do with blueprints

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Blueprints are just pre-canned automations for things

shrewd sundial
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Hello. I own a con bee stick II and use it with a raspi 4. Unsupported HASS installation, because it runs on a ssd. Since a few days / weeks i have the problem, that one particular lamp is switched on a few times a day. I have no idea, where it comes from. How to track that down? The log just says just "switched on" (okay it says "Lampe Haustür eingeschaltet", but thats german handgesture )

sour shadow
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If the logbook says that then it happens outside of HA

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So, what is that lamp? How is it integrated into HA?

shrewd sundial
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I am using the Zigbee Home Automation integration in HASS. Its a OSRAM Classic A60 W clear - LIGHTIFY lamp

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*bulb

sour shadow
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Then it's turning itself on... which is weird, but then Osram is pretty weird/junk

shrewd sundial
#

you mean osram bulbs generally are junk?

sour shadow
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Their non Zigbee 3.0 range is in general junk

shrewd sundial
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I own them for a long time and the osram devices often make problems

sour shadow
#

Their Zigbee 3.0 stuff is apparently ok

south moth
#

I notice that HA lost a device, suddenly, during the night. IKEA tradfri open close entrance became unavailable
05:49:49. What can be the reason. Using conbee 2 with ZHA.

south moth
sour shadow
shrewd sundial
last ruin
#

Can I disable the switch function of a Develco SPLZB-131 to only use the power metering? I intend to use it on the HA server so I don't want to accidentally hit the switch and turn off the server. Using Z2M.

old kernel
#

I recommend putting the malfunctioning ones in a place where they shine on your face in bed, it will cause you to more quickly buy new bulbs.

patent snow
#

Hello everyone

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Today I purchases zigbee v3.0 touch switch 2gang
added it to Zigbee2Mqtt and now both gang work as 1

violet dagger
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and?

patent snow
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when I power on 1 gang both power's on

#

Found Binding config

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I can see endpoint_l1 and endpoint_l2 which have state_l1 and state_l2

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when I power on state_l1 either from z2mqtt or hass entity state_l2 gets powered on too

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this does not happen when I power on from the touch button

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In binding source endpoint 2 is connected to coordinator destination_endpoint 1

quasi gate
#

For some of my Philips Hue Tap Dial devices I get "zigbee2mqtt/Switch name/action" events sent to MQTT, and for some I don't. Looking at the logs, some receive "manuSpecificPhilips" notification with "commandHueNotification" and some do not. Concretely, these lines are only visible when I press a button on some of the switches:

MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Olohuone Kytkin/action', payload 'button_1_press'
Debug 2022-12-13 16:03:21Received Zigbee message from 'Olohuone Kytkin', type 'commandHueNotification', cluster 'manuSpecificPhilips', data '{"button":1,"time":1,"type":2,"unknown1":3145728,"unknown2":0}' from endpoint 1 with groupID null
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Olohuone Kytkin', payload '{"action":"button_1_press_release","battery":100,"linkquality":255,"update":{"installed_version":"2.59.25","state":"idle"},"update_available":false}'
MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Olohuone Kytkin/action', payload 'button_1_press_release'

What am I missing in config to ensure that all the switches I have generate these action messages to MQTT?

quasi gate
shrewd sundial
#

Are there any Dongles for Raspberry Pi 4 outthere, which can handle Zigbee and Thread?

austere patio
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The SkyConnect can, but currently the firmware is a little unstable if you have a weak Zigbee network (i.e. no/few routers)

sour shadow
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IMO you're going to be better off with separate coordinators for some time

shrewd sundial
#

and what are good thread coordinators?

last ruin
#

I'm trying to bind an open/close IKEA switch with my IKEA blinds using Z2M. In the Bind tab of the switch I find the blinds in the drop down of destination, select LevelCtrl (?) and hit Bind button. It then just says 'Nothing to bind'. What am I doing wrong? EDIT: Suddenly not getting the error anymore. Seems to work.

sour shadow
shrewd sundial
#

Thx!

patent snow
novel turtle
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Seriously I hate zigbee

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how can a system be workign fine one day, and then nothing work the next

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looking at the visualisation it seems that every device takes the longest route to the cordinator

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I can even connect some devices unless near the cordinator

#

updated firmware, was solid for 2 days, now its dropping devices and wont route properly

#

there seriously needs to be a way to force it to rebuild a mesh

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anyone know of anyways to force a rebuild

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14 devices 5 of them routers and it cant mesh correctly

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if I change the panic times to 5 mins would tha force them to rebuild quicker

shadow orchid
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"I found out how to do this,

Basically power off the home assistant machine for 30 minutes. This will cause all of the zigbee devices to go into panic mode. Once the home assistant machine is re started the zigbee mesh network is rebuilt. This can take a while so I tend to just leave things for at least an hour.

Hope this helps"

novel turtle
#

can you also reduce the timings in the zha to cause a panic to happen sooner

#

I am getting awfully frustrated, I have literally two routers that are not even 15 ft apart and visulaisation shows they are connected and one works fine, but the fursthest away its intermittent ???????

#

its like the routing in ZHA is borked

shadow orchid
#

Idk anything about zigbee yet I just got my coordinator today

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cant even set it up till after work 😭

novel turtle
#

what bugs me is I have a power socket sonoff s26 that wont connect to the cordinator in place, I have to move it closer, but I have a sonoff temp battery powered that can.

#

seriously its like lick of the draw, and unstable as hell

shadow orchid
#

Is ur router interfering with it...?

patent snow
shadow orchid
#

Just had to update z2mqtt?

novel turtle
#

I am looking now at wifi, whats the best channel to have wifi on not to interfere with zigbee

shadow orchid
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1, 6, or 11

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20mhz

novel turtle
#

ok I am using 1

shadow orchid
patent snow
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updating to 1.24 from 1.22

shadow orchid
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🤔

#

isnt that a downgrade

#

Oh

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nvm im stupid as hell

patent snow
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you need rest 😄

shadow orchid
#

yes

novel turtle
#

ok so my zigbee is using channel 15, so I am assuming thats channel 3 on wifi ?????

#

according to that image @shadow orchid

shadow orchid
#

I believe zigbee 15, 20 and 25 are the ideal channels

#

pretty sure wherever the wifi channel dips is where u want the zigbee

#

sounds like u already have it setup that way

uncut dust
novel turtle
#

gonna check my other wifi router

austere patio
uncut dust
#

No devices at all

austere patio
#

Is your SkyConnect on the provided USB extension cable and away from active USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, etc?

uncut dust
#

Yes.

austere patio
#

What device are you trying to have join your network?

uncut dust
#

Innr light Strip and Ikea tradfri 10w driver

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I will try hue Lights later

austere patio
#

You click the "Add Device" button and perform the reset sequence on the device?

uncut dust
#

Yes.

austere patio
#

Devices join the Zigbee network, the coordinator doesn't search for them

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So if the device isn't popping up, either the network isn't open for joins (it times out after 60s), or the device isn't actually reset

novel turtle
#

@austere patio its annoying me

austere patio
#

Or there is interference preventing the coordinator from hearing the device trying to join. But if you're using the provided USB extension cable, that shouldn't be an issue

novel turtle
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my house aint big

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and so few devices

austere patio
#

At least for the Trådfri devices I have with physical reset buttons, I usually have to power them off completely from their power source and then reset them. Sometimes just holding down the button doesn't work.

novel turtle
#

command not found

uncut dust
novel turtle
#

haos not supported I guess

austere patio
uncut dust
novel turtle
#

I am in a docker already

#

its the HAOS image

peak jasper
#

How much trouble is it to move bulbs from the Hue controller to ZHA? Would I need to physically access the bulbs? They're in the soffit outside, and I would have to get on a ladder in the shrubbery

novel turtle
#

@peak jasper you need to diconnect them from the hue hub,

#

1 - have a hue dimmer switch
2- hold down top and bottom buttons on the dimmer about 1-4 inches away from the bulb
3 - Continue holding for 10 seconds until the green LED illuminates on the dimmer switch, the bulb will flash just before receiving the green LED. The bulb is now reset and can be re-included.
4 - on ZHA add device
5 - should appear within 10-15 seconds

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then you can sync the controller into ZHA

#

add some automations to turn on the bulb, another to turn off, and 2 more for dimmer up and dimmer down

peak jasper
#

I don't have a hue dimmer switch. And I don't want to climb a ladder. I guess I'll leave them as they are 🙂

novel turtle
quasi gate
peak jasper
#

Cool Imay tried that

quasi gate
#

If you end up getting the lights to a state where they can't be controlled by any bridge, then you need to do the factory reset by touchlink - or some other way to reset it.

austere patio
peak jasper
#

They're working fine with the Hue controller, so I might just leave them alone.

molten linden
#

@austere patio I told some one that the "fun way" was the hard way the other day, didn't know you had some magic there too. 😂

barren stratus
#

Hello, hope someone can help me here
Got my skyconnect today and try to use it in z2m
But i cant start it
Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)

molten linden
#

you need to be sure to tell z2m you are using a ezsp adaptor

#

that error mean's it is looking for a z-stack

barren stratus
#

Ok. and how?

sour shadow
#

Also, the stick is experimental in Z2M

barren stratus
#

Experimental is perfect for me 😄

sour shadow
# 
serial:
  adapter: ezsp
#

Experimental means some stuff may not work or fail on you...

sudden yarrow
#

Isn't cutting the power to the Hue bulb 5 times triggering the factory reset anymore? 🤔

austere patio
molten linden
quasi gate
#

One question about SkyConnect - and also about HA Yellow - what is the expected achievable bandwidth for Zigbee communication? It would seem that Zigbee network for the most part can approach 512kbit, but then sticks like ConBee II are using 38.4kbit communication which makes it super laggy when there's a lot of commands to handle. I'm hoping I can one day get a Zigbee network that is rock solid with >50 devices and snappy when 20 lights change state at the same time so they all report new values.

austere patio
#

The baudrate isn't the limiting factor (especially if you're using a Conbee). A single On/Off command sent over the air is like 75 bytes, which even for 20 bulbs at the same time doesn't come close to saturating the serial connection

quasi gate
#

Well, it's not about the commands - it's about every bulb reporting state with color temperature and asking of OTA updates and temperature sensors chattering and so. It may be that the baudrate is not the limiting factor, but I'm wondering if it might be given the amount of messages.

# 
Info 2022-12-13 19:17:42MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Portaikko Patteri', payload '{"adaptation_run_control":"none","adaptation_run_settings":true,"adaptation_run_status":"none","algorithm_scale_factor":1,"battery":99,"day_of_week":"thursday","external_measured_room_sensor":-8000,"heat_available":true,"heat_required":true,"keypad_lockout":"unlock","linkquality":255,"load_balancing_enable":true,"load_estimate":134,"load_room_mean":-8000,"local_temperature":19.46,"mounted_mode_active":false,"mounted_mode_control":false,"occupied_heating_setpoint":21,"occupied_heating_setpoint_scheduled":21,"pi_heating_demand":30,"preheat_status":false,"programming_operation_mode":"setpoint","radiator_covered":false,"regulation_setpoint_offset":0,"running_state":"heat","setpoint_change_source":null,"system_mode":"heat","thermostat_vertical_orientation":false,"trigger_time":660,"update":{"installed_version":"01.12.0008 01.12","progress":87.47,"remaining":491,"state":"updating"},"update_available":false,"viewing_direction":null,"window_open_external":false,"window_open_feature":true,"window_open_internal":"quarantine"}'
austere patio
#

I think you'd run into RF problems before the software/hardware side needs tweaking. Devices take turns transmitting so if too many are talking all at once, they have to wait until the channel is clear

#

State updates over the network are also really infrequent compared to normal router-to-router management traffic

quasi gate
#

Right, so then it's something else. For example if I turn a group of lights off that has 20+ lights - then at times some of the reports do not get through and the lights are still listed as being on.

austere patio
quasi gate
#

I'm using zigbee2mqtt and the switch is bound directly to the group. And like said, ConBee II with latest firmware.

austere patio
#

Z2M uses channel 11 by default, which overlaps WiFi 1. The tool I posted above works with the Conbee, as does the channel-change command.

novel turtle
#

zigbee still sucks LOL

#

it wont route properly

austere patio
#

Sorry you're still having problems with your install. Many people (myself included) have had zero issues in years 😆. Maybe try a brand other than Sonoff?

novel turtle
#

more likely wifi

#

I wanted zgbee for light switches and such dfoor sensors and temsp

#

they work fine

#

with battery

#

as soon as its plugged into a wall nahhhh wont work

austere patio
#

Are the Sonoff S26s the only routers you have?

novel turtle
#

s26 are routers, thats why I bought em

#

specifically to elongate the range

#

hue bulb and zigbee bulb

#

and devices connect to them just fine

#

the one in my dughters room, does have temp and light switch working with it

#

but the s26 about 10 feet away wont connect

#

I have to move closer to the s26 and then it connects to the cordinator, if I move it back away from the cordinator closer to the other s26 thats works fine, it times out and not avaialbel

#

seriously its like it ill not learn the nearest device

#

zha seems to outright fail unless you connect to the cordinator, its close enought to the cordinator until its realises it can use somethign else

#

major failing point of zha

austere patio
#

The integration has zero control over routing

#

Routing happens entirely within the firmware of the stick, ZHA just shows you what devices report

novel turtle
#

fine for ifg you are close enought to the cordinator

sour shadow
#

There's nothing that ZHA, or Zigbee2MQT, or anything else can do about devices being shit

#

If you're having issues it's because of either the hardware you bought being shit, or the RF environment being noisy

#

(or both)

austere patio
#

Speaking of Sonoff, apparently not a single device they list as "Zigbee 3.0 certified" appears in the CSA certification search

novel turtle
#

puddly helped me sort out the noise

#

its somethign else

sour shadow
#

Excellent, so ... devices not to buy: Tuya, Sonoff, older Osram

novel turtle
#

I would say its more to do with transport protocol

#

wifi had no isues at all with

quasi gate
#

my network works really well (if I don't join one problematic green power powertag to it) - but I'd like it to work even better, with no flakiness at all

molten linden
#

I had crap zigbee for years. dropped Osram bulbs and it's been great since. Lesson - there exist products that will cause your zigbee network to go to crap

sour shadow
#

I've got one problem device on my mesh, and that's largely because the location is well shielded

#

At some point I'll find a decent Zigbee 3.0 leak sensor and see if that works better there

novel turtle
#

were in the code of zha is it srtated to rebuild every X hours

austere patio
#

If you're looking at the visualization, it's rescanned every four hours (or when you click the button), but that's not actually doing anything to the network topology.

novel turtle
#

I know, but it would update if it has updated

#

so the only way to force it, would be to turn it off for 30 mins

uncut dust
#

Is there any Support site for the skyconnect? Still Not working. The link which was in the package doesnt work.

austere patio
sour shadow
#

Cheers, I'll see if I can find one over here

wild mason
#

I have a conbee today. Do i just do a switcharoo to the sky connect, or do i have to take some steps beforehand to keep my current network?

austere patio
#

Are you using ZHA?

#

If so, keep the Conbee plugged in, plug in the SkyConnect, and click the "Migrate" button in ZHA's configuration. I'll reset the old stick and move the network settings over to the SkyConnect. Make sure your Conbee is running a relatively recent firmware though, as older firmwares don't allow all network settings to be extracted and you may have problems with some devices until they're fully rebooted.

wild mason
#

Yes, im using ZHA.

#

Where can i check the FW version? 🤔

austere patio
#

How long ago did you buy the Conbee?

shadow orchid
#

then if I go back to my devices, it shows up just fine

#

Seems to be working fine

austere patio
#

Are you concurrently running Z2M or deCONZ?

shadow orchid
#

I had Z2M installed but not running, its all good now and working

#

very nice

shadow orchid
#

How does one add ZigBee devices to Alexa from HA?

mighty river
#

Hello, i am new to home assistant and very happy with it. May someone help to change update frequency of aqara temperature sensors? I use them to to control electronic temperatur valves for heaters. The problem is, because these WSDCGQ01LM sending updates very slowly, the whole control circuit swings. I have found some information about zigbee-herdsman filters, but i dont know how to use them if necessary. I use newest home assistant with a raspberry pi4. thx

austere patio
#

But they should be quite precise, since they report not on a fixed interval, but whenever the temperature changes by I believe 0.5C

mighty river
#

Ah okay, thank you. Thats, why i didnt find it anymore in fromZigbee.js file?

austere patio
#

I believe the PR was because Z2M wasn't parsing the ~hourly Aqara heartbeat that contained extra data

#

It's from 2018 and older Aqara devices have been fully supported for just as long

mighty river
#

For the problem is, 0.5 degrees is very high. The trv will consitantly open and close. It would be much bettter if i could set the update frequency to 0.2

austere patio
#

No way to do that, unfortunately. Get a Zigbee 3.0 certified temperature sensor. With those, you can configure reporting parameters, since they actually follow a specification.

mighty river
#

Ah okay. Thank you. I didnt know that. Time to check amazon 😄

sour shadow
ocean dust
#

Does someone have insights if the " SLZB-06 Zigbee Ethernet PoE USB LAN WIFI Adapter" does in fact come available end of year again?

jolly narwhal
#

Poe usb Lan wifi

#

Wow

#

That was a mouthful

stable dew
#

Hi. Are there any zigbee temperature sensors that could be attached to a pipe to monitor its temperature?

sour shadow
stable dew
#

perfect thanks

silk gull
#

Well so far Zigbee has kicked my ass. 🙂 I thought getting this little motion sensor would be the start of a beautiful friendship with me and Zigbee devices but I can’t get it to pair. It just blinks blue for a bit and nothing happens. I checked the ZHA logs but I don’t see it trying to load the device. Anyone have any helpful hints to add my first device.

hearty night
#

how much power do you think a zigbee smart bulb would draw at max brightness?

#

10W maybe?

lilac wharf
#

The protocol is irrelevant

#

Manufacturers typically include the max power draw on the box

hearty night
#

yeah looks like 9-10W

shadow orchid
#

How does one re-enter a Zigbee bulb into pairing mode? I had my bulbs paired to ZHA earlier then uninstalled it, now the lights arent going back into pairing mode

#

The first time I put them in, they flashed a few colors then went to white and stayed white, then flashed once they got picked up by ZHA

lilac wharf
#

It depends on the bulb

shadow orchid
#

Ok so, I deleted the devices from ZHA, but I think ZHA is picking them back up right away?

#

(I dont see a way to FULLY remove ZHA)

#

@lilac wharf you have the innr bulbs right...?

lilac wharf
#

Nope

shadow orchid
#

Oh

#

Someone else here does

#

Well, I figured out how to reset them and they show up in Z2MQTT, but they say "interview failed" 🤔

#

"Interview failed" but works 100% fine, cool

obtuse tapir
#

I've got an uncooperative neighbor, so am rebuiding my zigbee on channel 25 (and hoping all my devices support it). Is there a way to be certain the channel it's actually running on? I've got 25 set in the yaml, but want to be totally sure.

lilac wharf
#

ZHA or zigbee2mqtt?

obtuse tapir
#

ZHA, because as part of this I tried to do zigbee2mqtt and I couldn't get it to talk to my HUBZSB-1

austere patio
#

ZHA doesn't support changing the channel from the YAML config for existing networks

#

Instead, go to the ZHA configuration page and download the backup JSON. You can change the channel in there and then restore the backup by going through the migration flow (select re-configure and you can then upload the modified backup)

obtuse tapir
#

How do we define "existing"? I removed the integration, and rebooted, and when I readded I told it to install an empty network - and then it gives me the list of all my previously added devices.

#

But I see what you're saying on the download and modify

austere patio
obtuse tapir
#

This was in the json, so I assume that means at some point it took?

#

Guess I can't do a pic

#

So...

#

"nwk_update_id": 0,
"nwk_manager_id": "0000",
"channel": 25,
"channel_mask": [
11,

austere patio
#

Oh, I guess the "form a new network" does read the YAML config 😆. Yep, that's the current channel.

obtuse tapir
#

Awesome, thanks. Off to add 53 or so devices.

brave nacelle
#

oof

#

another day another random HA implosion 😦

#

randomly "Error setting up entry sonoff zigbee 3.0 usb dongle plus for zha"

#

restart, reseating the dongle, reboot - nothing fixes it and it just randomly happened

austere patio
verbal wren
#

Hey people,

Went ahead and got myself a Conbee II and some ikea trådfri devices and had success adding them to ZHA and controlling them from HA interface.

But i want to also control the devices with the remotes.
After searching for a bit it seems like people do this with automations and stuff, but the correct way seems to be binding and groups?

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha#binding-and-unbinding

When i try to bind my remote to a bulb it just loads with no indication of anything, and it seems to not work after a long time.
Does anybody have a word of advice here? Thanks in advance. 🙏

cerulean vale
#

Has anyone been able to make IKEA Fyrtur open/close remotes work with ZHA? I can add the remote but it does not fire any events at all.

shrewd sundial
visual surge
#

To get a solid answer on this - is higher or lower LQI better?

sour shadow
#

Higher

#

Though, every brand calculates and reports it differently, so it's not always that useful

#

Plus you'll often have devices with a low single digit LQI that work fine, and devices with a high three digit LQI that drop off the mesh

visual surge
#

Yeah, one of my highest scoring devices (around 140) has dropped off entirely despite being near a router 😦 It's driving me mad

#

It keeps happening and refuses to stay connected.

sour shadow
#

What is it, and is it actually connected through that router?

visual surge
#

It's a Sonoff SNZB-02 temp/humidity sensor. Originally it wasn't connected through the router and died after a few days. Z2M then showed it connected via the router the second time when I disabled pairing on everything except that router and re-paired (after deleting it). It lasted about a week that time then disappeared.

sour shadow
#

Oh... one of those

#

That behaviour seems to be pretty common

visual surge
#

Not sure why the contact sensors change to "Interview Failed" after a few days, they're fine for a bit then change to that, though they still work.

#

Is that an issue (or rather will it become an issue?) or is it safe to ignore?

tulip patrol
#

I've found that the sonoff battery powered end devices work reliably after replacing the battery, regardless of the percentage being reported on the factory battery

visual surge
#

Interesting. They do have dodgy battery compartments and I have a few spare batteries so I'll swap it out and make sure it's more firmly pinned. The downside is they are a nightmare to actually open.

tulip patrol
#

Make sure to replace it with a good quality battery that isn't expired or too old.

#

When reassembling them, make sure the arrows match direction on both the inner and outer cases. In case you weren't aware.

visual surge
#

Yeah, looking at the Panasonic ones right now as apparently those are good. And yeah, I was matching the lines. You can't close these the wrong way anyway as they have pointy internal bits that can't fit the other way.

old kernel
# cerulean vale Has anyone been able to make IKEA Fyrtur open/close remotes work with ZHA? I can...

I have a pile of those remotes since one comes with each of my blinds. Seems they have some weird bugs or the quirks need help. If I take one I've never used before, put in a brand new battery and pair it to ZHA (while not pairing anything else), I am able to see zha events. Within 1-4 days, they drop off the network, either with a dead battery or otherwise. If I pair them again, I can't get any events from them, not sure if there's a more complete reset procedure than the press button 4 times thing.

#

if i pair the remote at the same time as i'm pairing one of the blinds, it automatically binds itself with the blind being paired and won't send any events to ZHA/HA

rapid dawnBOT
#

@burnt grove I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
old kernel
#

in that situation, the blind works from both the remote and HA, until i reset the remote, then the blind stops working from both

cerulean vale
#

@old kernel well that explains a lot. They seem to work really poorly with HA. Maybe I just need to keep the Trådfri hub then and not use my Zigbee stick

#

I really wish I could get rid of it

mellow geode
#

What coordinator are you using? I’ve never had any issues with IKEA remotes. Some are also bound to devices

raven jewel
cerulean vale
mellow geode
#

The E or the P variant?

fallow citrus
#

Hey, I moved from a cc2531 to a Sonnoff cc2652. All the devices have re-paired correctly except one. Every time it enters pairing mode, zigbee2mqtt just crashes. Anyone knows what to do? The device type should be TS0011_switch_module or similar

supple plover
#

Also note the name is just an alphanumerical string

sour shadow
#

That's not a Z2M update, that's an OTA update for a device in Z2M

supple plover
#

Aaah, haven't seen one of those before!

#

Maybe one of the motion sensors i paired but havent used yet, and therefore not named

#

Thanks @sour shadow

silk vortex
sour shadow
#

Plug it in

#

Then pick ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT and configure that

silk vortex
#

will it offer to install specific integrations like it did with other devices?

sour shadow
#

It'll offer ZHA

silk vortex
#

the red logo one?

#

got it, thank you very much

#

i hope this cheap stick can do it xD

sour shadow
#

What is it?

#

Because there's some really bad options out there, that are just going to cause you pain

silk vortex
#

i wanted dirt cheap

sour shadow
#

That's usually a mistake since you end up buying twice

#

Ah yes, well... good news... you're going to be buying a replacement

hearty pulsar
#

helloo
I try to config my usb zigbee gateway. The device appears as "discovered" but when i click on config, the message is "Zigbee Home Automation
Fehler beim Testen des USB-Geräts" = Failed to test the usb device
Can someone help me?

rapid dawnBOT
#

The CC2531 and CC2530 sticks are cheap for a reason. They're fine for testing, but do yourself a favour and buy something better.

What something better? Anything CC2652 based (see here for some) or the current generation EZSP (see here for some).

The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi, and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

silk vortex
sour shadow
#

For just that... it'll probably work... mostly

#

Do expect that it's likely to lock up and stop working at random

silk vortex
#

hmm, wdym? the usb driver is locking up? if so i could automate "ejecting" the device once in a while

sour shadow
#

Nah, the stick crashes

#

You have to power cycle it to get it working again

silk vortex
silk vortex
sour shadow
#

In the scheme of how much money you're going to spend on smart devices, it's just a little more

raven jewel
#

It's 1/10th of the work 😉

#

Personally I value not needing to go and unplug and plug back in a dongle to get my lights working again

silk vortex
sour shadow
#

Then spend smart

#

Simply buying cheap is rarely smart, and you're going to have more problems, and spend more money, if you don't apply some thinking

raven jewel
sour shadow
#

There's also a range of CC2652 based sticks on Ali that are reasonably priced

silk vortex
raven jewel
#

The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet. This was the Captain Samuel Vimes "Boots" theory of socioeconomic unfairness.[1]

sour shadow
#

Heck, there's some CC2652 sticks on Ali that are cheaper than that CC2531

silk vortex
sour shadow
#

Anything CC2652 based

silk vortex
#

That one looks way worse tbh, im not confident in it's abilities

raven jewel
#

Though that is the E, but if you're using ZHA it should be fine

silk vortex
#

whats the difference between E and not E

raven jewel
#

This is the one I have.

#

Plus has much wider support, E is a different chip and only has experimental support in some places/systems

sour shadow
#

P works on ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT
E works on ZHA and is experimental on Z2M

raven jewel
#

The Sonoff store even has a warehouse in Germany it seems

silk vortex
#

Thanks

#

hmm

#

doesn't seem to work

#

device connected and shows up but can't be controlled or read

#

also can't be paired to tuya through the Pi as hub

#

zigbee seems like such a overcomplication for something that could just use some wifi

# 
"device_type": {
          "name": "SMART_PLUG",
          "id": 81
        },

why the f would it think that a thermostat is a smart plug

tropic depot
#

you bought Tuya

#

the device is telling us that's what it is

#

welcome to Tuya

silk vortex
#

im using a tuya lamp just fine

#

the lamp isn't zigbee tho

tropic depot
#

what is your point

silk vortex
#

can i force the device_type somewhere

tropic depot
#

just because 1 device works has 0 bearing on others

sour shadow
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You've managed to buy the worst option of coordinator, and the worst brand of device

silk vortex
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and the cheapest most affordable one

tropic depot
silk vortex
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when i see articles about "super discounts" on smart thermostats where even their discounted price is 80 bucks PER unit, then i have no choice

silk vortex
tropic depot
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you will notice nearly all requests / issues are Tuya devices

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I need to do an actual analysis but my rough guess is at least 80%

silk vortex
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Thank you

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seems like i can edit some .py file to add support

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do you think that works in HASS on a Pi?

latent rune
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I have an update of Zigbee2MQTT in HA, that wont install. The old version is "2.3.015" and the new version is "newer" (no version is shown)... What can I do?

nova crest
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Those updates can take a bit. If you go into Z2M, you should see a spinning icon on the device. If you hit OTA at the top in Z2M, it'll let you see progress

silk vortex
tropic depot
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nope

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after you applied the changes did you remove it and re-join it?

burnt grove
silk vortex
tropic depot
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someone really should PR this so that it isn't custom like this

visual locust
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is it possible to start the zigbee2mqtt add-on without a coordinator?

sour shadow
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No

earnest aspen
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Got punted over here by a certain someone. I've got HA running in a container on a large PC in my basement. I've got a pair of Raspberry Pi 3's sitting around doing nothing. I'd like to make the RPI's into a ZWave and Zigbee bridge accessible to my HA instance. My Zwave and Zigbee devices are all upstairs, far away from the PC so a USB bridge in the server wouldn't help me. What's the best way to do this from a software and hardware perspective?

sour shadow
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You can run Zigbee2MQTT remote from HA, with any CC2652 based coordinator

grizzled kettle
earnest aspen
sour shadow
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For Z2M always use a CC2652 based coordinator, everything else is either experimental or ... junk

grizzled kettle
tropic depot
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the hubz is better for zigbee (significantly) than the 2531 IMO

grizzled kettle
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Unfortunately it's not really supported for zigbee2mqtt. I think it's experimental, but you have to use a custom firmware...

tropic depot
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yep

earnest aspen
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I really appreciate it. Thanks. I'll try to figure it out from here.

thorn kelp
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Somehow with a coordinator and 7 devices that repeat every LQI i see is like 40-90. even things with 10ft line of sight to the router are getting terrible lqi.

tropic depot
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does everythign work

thorn kelp
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i'm having devices become unavailable and then reconnect later, or automations that don't run correctly because a light failed to turn on/off

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1% of the time kinda thing. enough that it's bothering me though haha.

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i have very busy airspace that i can't do much about, but i figured with 7 repeaters around the house i could make up for it.

austere patio
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What channel are you using?

thorn kelp
austere patio
thorn kelp
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I'd expect far poorer performance tbh. the LQI doesn't seem right, almost feels like those are -RSSI values

austere patio
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They are if you're using a CC2652

thorn kelp
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....oh

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well that was easy

austere patio
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Well, not quite -RSSI, but it's linearly scaled to 0-255 where the endpoints match min/max

thorn kelp
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"TI CC2652P+CP2102"

austere patio
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Yeah. Try out the energy scan and then the change-channel -c ... command in the above package, it should help migrate to channel 20 or 25

thorn kelp
hearty night
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what would yall recommend for a good zigbee and zwave usb stick ?

austere patio
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Get two separate sticks

hearty night
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why is that?

carmine hamlet
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because there are no good combos

hearty night
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I see

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ok, what would you recommend for just zigbee then?

carmine hamlet
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see the pinned messages for that

still fulcrum
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Hi all, I'm trying to work out the kinks with a zhaquirk for the Wyze lock, I know it's not officially supported and I can't expect great support for something without legit support for ZHA/Zigbee, but my main issue is this:

I've followed the thread on the Home Assistant forum for how to get this device working, and I do have the correct status for when I lock/unlock the lock manually or through the app through bluetooth, but I do not have status updates for when I lock/unlock from Home Assistant. The lock will do the action, but I never get any sort of verification or response in Home Assistant and it just sits on whatever the previous status was.

https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wyze-lock-zigbee-home-assistant-hassio-hassos-zha-integration-working-as-expected-remove-cloud-control/211884/124

Going through my logs, I've found lines like these:
2022-12-14 18:22:42.594 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.zha.core.channels.base] [0xB758:1:0x0101]: executed 'unlock_door' command with args: '()' kwargs: '{}' result: unlock_door_response(status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>)

My main question, as someone just diving into Zigbee, is the result: unlock_door_response(status=<Status.SUCCESS: 0>), is this Status.SUCCESS a response from the lock, confirming that the door was unlocked, or that it received the message, or is this simply a response from ZHA saying that the command was sent out?

It doesn't seem like the lock sends out anything when it's locked with this method, while the other methods to lock/unlock will send out a message that is handled by my zhaquirk.

Thanks all, I'm brand new to Zigbee so I've definitely got a lot to learn about this

fading ivy
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Brand new SkyConnect can't seem to see Aqara devices

austere patio
fading ivy
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What do I need to do to crank ZHA/SkyConnect debugging all the way up?

austere patio
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What Aqara device?

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And is the SkyConnect plugged into the USB extension cable?

fading ivy
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yes extension

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actually, no, the one I am testing matches the product photo there

austere patio
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The round one?

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Or the square one with rounded corners?

fading ivy
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I have both but I am currently testing the square one

austere patio
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Just joined a square one to a brand new SkyConnect, no issues here

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How long are you holding down the little button?

fading ivy
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5 seconds until 3 flashes

austere patio
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And you let go after the third flash?

fading ivy
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yes

austere patio
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How long has the "Searching for Zigbee devices…" screen been open?

#

Click the "+ Add Device" button and immediately reset the Aqara sensor

fading ivy
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started again after enabling debug logging

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I must have the timing wrong

#

thanks for confirming they're supported, anyway

austere patio
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Is the SkyConnect hanging near something that could be emitting 2.4GHz interference?

fading ivy
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my entire house is a 2.4ghz hellscape, but the device is pretty close to the dongle (<1m)

austere patio
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Because your timing is correct. Maybe pull the battery and try again? It joined on my first try after I clicked the "add device" button, held down the reset button on the sensor until just after the third blink, and then just waited for 10s without touching anything

fading ivy
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will attempt not to unstick the adhesive from my walls...

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I wonder if I can 3D print a holder instead next time

austere patio
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You may also want to make sure its battery is fresh. They're at this point more than a couple of years old, if you got old stock the battery could be dead. The blue LED should be blinking somewhat brightly each time without getting progressively dimmer.

fading ivy
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could I change the channel this is operating on?

austere patio
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You can download a backup from the ZHA configuration page, change it in the JSON, and restore the backup

fading ivy
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battery was replaced <6 months ago

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any way I can scan for noise on channels?

austere patio
fading ivy
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thanks, I got z2m working years ago and never touched it afterwards

austere patio
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Requires access to the Docker container (or for the package to be installed and run in any Python environment, it's cross-platform)

fading ivy
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I'm on my own core installation.

austere patio
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In that case you can just pip install from the repo and run the command directly after disabling ZHA/shutting down Core

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For the SkyConnect it would be zigpy radio --baudrate 115200 ezsp /dev/serial/by-id/*SkyConnect* energy-scan

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The change-channel -c ... command will change the channel directly

fading ivy
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ah, can't paste screenshots here

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every channel is at approximately 30%

austere patio
fading ivy
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erm, I don't have anything that can scan like that for wifi at the moment

austere patio
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Their frequencies overlap, you'd see clear "lumps" in the energy scan corresponding to the wider WiFi network's channel

fading ivy
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ah, 20 was down at 19%

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that's the only "lump"

austere patio
fading ivy
austere patio
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Ah. In that case, maybe give 20 a try.

fading ivy
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is there an updated firmware I should be using?

austere patio
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No, the firmware it ships with is stable

old kernel
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curious: is skyconnect just another ezsp stick, or is there more to it?

austere patio
molten linden
austere patio
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Oh, I guess we can get rid of QEMU for x86 😆 "Manufacturing Library (MfgLib) support for Concurrent Multiprotocol RCP" too?

molten linden
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Maybe they are doing it in the sdk now 🤣

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Maybe the emberznet release notes will work when I wake back up again 😂

fading ivy
rapid dawnBOT
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@hearty pulsar I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
hearty pulsar
sour shadow
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What coordinator (Zigbee stick) are you using?

hearty pulsar
sour shadow
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Is it on a USB extension cable?

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Is /dev/ttyACM0 the right path?

hearty pulsar
fading ivy
hearty pulsar