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lyric mortar
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Motion, temperature, and contact

sour shadow
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Zigbee routers... always Zigbee

lean echo
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I found with contact that sometimes they "don't like" a battery and after 1h or so they will disconnect

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another reason could be a low LQI

sour shadow
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Other than having your WiFi on the same channel (numbers differ!) as Zigbee, your WiFi is irrelevant

lyric mortar
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I thought that might be a dumb question but had to ask. Thanks for the clarification.

lean echo
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@austere patio you might not have the answer to this, but might find it interesting.... If no one has any idea I'll try to contact with Sonoff but I don't have any expectations with them

grim igloo
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Good excuse to move off conbee

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But as said above it’s prob just a mesh / router issue

lyric mortar
# grim igloo But as said above it’s prob just a mesh / router issue

I'll have to do some more research, it sounds like this should all be compatible. I bought the ConBee like a year ago and just got around to getting a ZigBee network setup. The aqara sensors just came this weekend so figured I could still return if there was a compatibility issue.

grim igloo
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I’m not saying they shouldn’t work on conbee. I’m saying conbee is an inferior setup to a cc2652 coordinator

lean echo
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I had a few aqara devices when I was using the conbee II

lyric mortar
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I'm using the ZHA integration. Is that not recommended?

lean echo
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I don't know I never tried to use ZHA, I went straight away with Z2M as I saw it has much better compatibility and features on devices

lyric mortar
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I'll give that a go tonight. Thank you all!

lean echo
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even funnier than this... I can also pair it on channel 19 and 21, so I guess I'll just switch to 21 as I live in a house with not much wifi interference and both 20 and 21 had similar results in terms of energy: https://dpaste.org/XNaU7

would it be too bad just to switch to 21?

sour shadow
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The ConBee really requires a USB extension cable

lyric mortar
sour shadow
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Less than ideal ... that's a pretty big understatement

grim igloo
lyric mortar
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Yes, yes. I have been waiting for inventory to grow on some new hardware. I had planned on using it until I could get my hands on a home Assistant Yellow and a CM4 but I'm growing impatient.

grim igloo
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cm4 isnt really a great setup whether in a yellow or anything else. get yourself a nuc or a decent used laptop or even a thin client. something that can ssd boot and has a bit of processing power and ram

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and spending an extra $20 or so to buy another coordinator to replace the conbee with something like the sonoff p dongle off the list i linked above would be something i'd do in your shoes as well

lyric mortar
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Thanks for all the recommendations! It's a surface so I am enjoying the SSD but the pain has been using a single USB port, no Ethernet, and keeping the screen on 24/7.

gaunt flume
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sometimes the interview process of battery powered devices fails - on some sensors like the aqara stuff you can keep pressing the reset button every 1sec (wakes up the device) to make it more consistent but I dont know if that works with your sensor.

thorn kelp
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Trying "reconfigure" on a zigbee device to see if that solves it. One of my motion sensors isn't displaying temp despite it being capable.

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The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs.

😦

fast sentinel
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what is the best wifi channel(s) to use if zigbee network is on 15?

lilac wharf
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wi-fi channel 11 would be ideal

fast sentinel
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thank you - so with three wifi APs, 11-1-11 is the way?

grim igloo
lilac wharf
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Zigbee channel 11 with WiFi channels 6 and 11 would be better, but if you don't want to switch from zigbee channel 15 then a two-channel reuse plan with WiFi channels 1 and 11 or 6 and 11 would work

fast sentinel
grim igloo
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condescending much lol

fast sentinel
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exactly

grim igloo
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if you looked at the chart you wouldn't have chosen 1 so..

lilac wharf
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1 and 6 are equal if zigbee channel 15 is used

fast sentinel
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exactly

grim igloo
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15 is smack dab inside the 1 spectrum

lilac wharf
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No, 11 is

fast sentinel
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@grim igloo did you look at the chart?

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let me link it for you

grim igloo
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sorry i misspoke, im seeing 15 between 1 and 6

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but only 40mhz width

lilac wharf
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The chart shows 20MHz channel width

grim igloo
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i dont see why you'd choose channel 1 and 11 over channel; 6 and 11 though

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which is what i was expecting as the best solution given no other interference from neighbors etc

lilac wharf
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WiFi channels 1 and 6 are the same as far as channel 15 for Zigbee is concerned

grim igloo
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i looked at this

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you saying channel 1 and 6 is the same assumes that both channels 1 and 6 have no interference from neighbors or anything else using 40mhz though

lilac wharf
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That's the same chart on the page I linked

grim igloo
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so in my eyes im seeing an obvious benefit to avoiding channel 1 on wifi for now and future (in his scenario)

lilac wharf
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I'm talking strictly within their setup

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And assuming 20 MHz channel width on 2.4GHz which is the sane choice

grim igloo
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he doesnt live in a bubble though

lilac wharf
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They could be in the boonies

grim igloo
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you can facepalm all you want dude

plush gazelle
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Hello im using a nodon relay to open my garage door, but i just added the relay to the zigbee2mqtt and I dont know how to use it.

Can somebody help me?

lilac wharf
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What do you mean you don't know how to use it?

plush gazelle
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the relay is always in ON

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and when i try to switch it to OFF, the relay automatically forces the ON mode

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I connected the button of mainboard of the garage, it should work as a one click switch from the garage, like a wall switch (im not sure if im making myself clear enough)

I should be able to click one time in the relay and act as a one time command to the garage door

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but is not doing it

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I could send a video but I dont have permissions i think

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you have over there the weird thing that is doing to me

smoky tapir
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I've been foiled by an outdoor wall, was droping a sonoff temp/humidity sensor outside, but detection is failing.... 🙂

fleet lodge
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Gents

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Help me, my mind is going to shit. Aqara Smart Plug vs Ebyte E72-based Zigbee Router. eByte E72 (i.e. TI CC2562P-2) will presumably have = or > performance because we can adjust to ~ +5 /+9 / +15/ +20 dBm vs with stock Aqara Smart Plug, it is listed as max transmit 10 dBm. Does this sound correct? Assume PCB antennae for both routers.

violet dagger
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In general that's correct

lime goblet
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I just bought 2 Aqara water leak sensors. One connected to ZHA fine. The other is not being seen at all when trying to connect. The blue light flashes and everything. I think it may just be a faulty device.

smoky tapir
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Humidity 54.1%
Temperature 53.1 °F
gleaming jay
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A week ago 4 stopped working after a power outage. I try repairing every few days and so far I’ve gotten 2 out of the 4 to repair but it’s taken many tries over days

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So keep trying 🤷🏾‍♂️

silent anchor
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Some of mine need an offset between 0.5 - 1 degree and between 1-3% for humidity.
I saw that workaround with a template sensor, however I don't really like it, because it does not show up in the Device, only as an entity and that makes the whole thing more complicated and cluttered.

I know Z2M can set offsets for them, but it might just do that internally and report another value.

half turtle
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I could use some help with my setup. Using HAOS with Conbee II. Connected my zigbee (mostly lamps) with zigbee2mqtt and using Homekit via (HASS Bridge).
Using scenes from Homekit to control the lightning.

My problem: The scenes randomly turns off/on the included lamps. It looks like lamp is turned of in Homekit but it's still on. So have to manually switch that lamp on and off again in order for it to turn off. This happens to random lamps, but it happends everytime. Using the HA app works better, but has same problem when turning off/on a room. Any ideas on where I could start debugging this issue?

Should I try a new Zigbee stick? Are there "extenders" for zigbee? Maybe try zha instead? Any suggestions would help a lot!

violet dagger
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yes, yes, yes

sour shadow
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  1. For controlling multiple lights at once a Zigbee group can help.
  2. Put the ConBee on a USB extension cable
  3. You can configure the lights to report their OnOff state periodically so that Z2M knows they're really on/off vs whatever it thinks
brave nacelle
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i wish there was a way to do some ESP hacking with addressable leds but with zigbee :/

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i'm such a wifi hater

half turtle
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Any more suggestions what to try? See above (using conbee 2 stick now updated with latest firmware).
Removed all integrations, added just three IKEA lightbulbs using ZHA (switched from z2m as a test) to a room. Using switch in UI (lovelace) for whole room (only three lamps), lamps randomly don't follow the command for on/off. Using just one lamp, it always works.
Is it a hardware problem?

raven jewel
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It's a Conbee problem

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As mentioned above, try putting the Conbee on an extension cable, but really your solution is to replace the device

half turtle
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It's already on a extension, so I'm investing in a new device then. What would be the best buy today?

raven jewel
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I have the Sonoff P (not E). Something CC2652 is best

rapid dawnBOT
raven jewel
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Whoops, wrong one

half turtle
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Thank you - will order right away!

plush gazelle
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hello I have a nodon Relay, but is not working properly

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is doing that weird thing, i cant switch it off!

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im using Zigbee2mqtt and HA

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zigbee2mqtt says that the device availavillity is disabled

sterile sleet
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then remove it and re-pair ?

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restart your z2m in between

plush gazelle
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i will try tx

fallow warren
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Does anyone know if Hue sync box can work with all my zigbee lights in HA? Or does it pair directly with Hue lights only? Or if this DIY solution using Hyperion may work with all lights? Or it might not even be feasible to include lights that arent directly behind the TV, IDK 🙂

sterile sleet
fallow warren
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I have 3 hue play bars, (2 behind the TV) and otherwise 4 RGB bulbs and a RGB light strip in the room

raven jewel
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I think from memory the Hue Bridge is the one that links up the gradient strip or play bars and the sync box, and I don't know if those will work without the bridge. I know my Ambilight TV (it has the gradient strip more or less built-in), has to talk to the Hue Bridge in order to communicate with the play bars

sterile sleet
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emulated hue and others also do entertainment but don't support led "zones" as hue calls it. hue-sync can talk these zones by utilizing the entertainment api v2

raven jewel
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Nice

fallow warren
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Oh I thought you meant my zigbee gear

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My TV is a samsung 55" 8000 series

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3-4 years old i guess

sterile sleet
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so I would say try emulated hue, you shouldn't even need a hue bridge for this to work

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if you have a android box or tv you might also get them to export the frames to hyperion

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its easy to then select a hue bridge in hyperion

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hyperion just doesn't support entertainment api v2 so in my case I just output to file and read it with hue-sync

fallow warren
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oh wow interesting, will test out a bit later

low rock
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Evening automaters. I have a weird case that I need to vent.
Today we had a power outage, not for more than 10mins but I wasnt home and had forgotten to make sure my HA box turned on again when the power returned. So the zigbee network was down for probably around 1,5-2h.
Somehow, two of my remotes (one Ikea on/off and one Ikea 5-button) managed to bind themselves to a wall plug (Aqara) close by in this time. I cant figure out how this happens, or how to revert it. Not without removing and re-pairing that is.

sour shadow
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ZHA? Zigbee2MQTT? deCONZ?

low rock
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oh yeah sorry, zigbee2mqtt

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this have happend once before a couple of months ago. Same thing then, paired itself with an Aqara plug that was connected to....my server....that was a bit of a drag.

smoky tapir
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your remotes bound to a wall plug that was close, isn't that what you want? 🙂

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i vaguely remember reading to turn off (or unplug) your coordinator for a couple hours to get your mesh to "re-mesh". I suspect this is very vendor dependent though.

half flame
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Hii,
question about zigbee, if i add a new device, will my older device re-route to a better route ?
i added a smart plug to try to improve my wireless sensor range, but they arn't connecting to it and one that would have a much better signal is not changing

sour shadow
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It depends entirely on the "older device"

half flame
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the devices chooses the route ? not the main router

sour shadow
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Yes, the devices are entirely in control of how they connect

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You can re-pair them with only your chosen router as an option - both ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT support that - but it won't stop them changing their connection later

half flame
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ah, how can i do that ?
i am using zigbee2MQTT

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one device has a signal of 12 and is offline for a while now

sour shadow
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In the UI, select the drop down

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See where it says Permit Join (All)?

half flame
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yes

sour shadow
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There's a drop down there

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Click it, and then select the router you want it to use

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Then click Permit Join and repeat the pairing process on the device

half flame
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ahh ok ok thanks !

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its 50 devices max ? or i can have more or do a need a new coordinator for more

sour shadow
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You can have a few hundreds

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The limit is how many connect directly to the coordinator, which is why you have routers

half flame
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ah perfect !
time to invest.. or is it worth waiting for the new threads / (forgot the name)

sour shadow
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Zigbee stuff isn't going to magically stop working just because Thread is finally on the horizon

half flame
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i mean future proofing

sour shadow
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You're using HA... who cares?

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It's not like that Zigbee stuff is going to stop working on you, or stop you from also using Thread

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Zigbee works today. Thread ... will work at some point in the future

sullen coral
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I'm looking for radiator valves. Anything I should look out for when choosing?

half flame
unborn orbit
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have a few devices in z2m stuck w/ ota at "remaining time N/A"

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any idea how i can restart or clear the ota?

fast sentinel
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ZHA question - i noticed for every zigbee group i created, example: light.silicon_labs_ezsp_kitchen_zha_group_0x0007

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now there is a corresponding "switch"
switch.silicon_labs_ezsp_kitchen_zha_group_0x0007

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is this normal?

waxen nimbus
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don't know about normal, but all of my light groups are without matching switches

fast sentinel
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so strange, they just came up out of nowhere - i want to delete them but not sure what function they have..

waxen nimbus
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I suppose your groups contain devices with switch controls

fast sentinel
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thank you

tropic depot
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Don’t delete them 🤦🏻‍♂️

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They are more efficient entities

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They communicate Via multicast

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Much better for the network and they give you device actions / triggers for the groups

raw lynx
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Hi all,
I want to submit a support request for a zigbee device that doesn't function within ZHA.

It's a funky AliExpress motion sensor and I was wondering what's the correct process to go about sending a support request for that device.

Reading in the blog for ZHA discusses sending logs and signatures of devices but I don't want to send that to the GitHub page and just to get shut down cuz I didn't fill it out correctly

austere patio
raw lynx
brave nacelle
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just as a "oh this might be worth mentioning", noticed lately i'm having to restart HA a bit or some my zigbee devices don't respond

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e.g.: i have a power strip for my indoor garden and an automation based on time to turn on/off the lights and twice now in 2 weeks i've had to restart HA and power it on or off manually because the automation didn't kick in

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and i couldn't control it via HA before a restart

austere patio
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What Zigbee integration are you using and with what coordinator?

sour shadow
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Bets on CC2531

brave nacelle
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sonoff 3.0 usb dongle

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as far as the integration, how would i find that out?

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i guess just the 'integrations' in settings

austere patio
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If you don't know, you're probably using ZHA

brave nacelle
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i didn't do anything fancy tbh, just out of the box

austere patio
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If you configure the Zigbee integration and look at the network settings, what is the "Radio type"?

brave nacelle
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znp

austere patio
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Hmm, I'm not aware of any known issues with it. Is your stick on a USB 2.0 extension cable and away from USB 3.0 ports?

brave nacelle
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no extension, but let me verify the port it's in

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trying to identify in terminal

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lsusb isn't showing any usb 3.0

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just the device ids, so i'm thinking it doesn't have usb 3.0

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not giving up just yet though

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ok so i've got this on an inspiron 15 3000

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has 2 usb 3.1 ports it says, 1 2

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watch i have it in the only usb 2.0 port 🙂

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LOL

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yep!

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i had it in the 2.0 port

austere patio
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Anything plugged into those 3.0 ports?

brave nacelle
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well the sonoff dongle now 🙂

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thanks a lot for mentioning that i would have never thought of it

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could explain a bit

austere patio
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Wait no, you want to keep it away from 3.0 ports 😆

brave nacelle
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oh

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shit

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LOL

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damnit

austere patio
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You can just hotplug it if you're not running a hypervisor that makes it complicated, ZHA will auto-reconnect in a few seconds

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And keep it away from active 3.0 ports in general, even if it's not using the port

brave nacelle
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seems the link quality improved since changing the port

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i could just upgrade the antenna on it too couldn't i?

austere patio
brave nacelle
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thanks a lot

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i'll do just that

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is there a setting in the config to enable debug without editing the yaml?

austere patio
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You should be able to take the logs: portion of the YAML config and instead send it via that logger.set_level service call in the second link

brave nacelle
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trying to locate it all in my HA now

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appreciate the help too thanks a lot

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there's 432 gigs free on that box

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so i'm just setting default log level to debug now

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i'll keep an eye on disk usage

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actually nevermind i'm seeing this go south fast based on just the stream queue size values lol

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i have one of these handy 🙂

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gonna compare the network visualization before/after

brave nacelle
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wow so the suggestion is to get this as far from the 3.0 port as possible

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interesting

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i have a 20 ft usb extension cable

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i could use that

austere patio
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I don't think 20 feet is a spec-compliant USB cable...

brave nacelle
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woops, 10ft

austere patio
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A couple of feet is more than enough, just as long as they aren't right next to one another

brave nacelle
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good to know

fallow warren
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Whats the best way to ensure that if a light is on it stays at 1% always?

tulip patrol
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you just need the formula to specify that 1% range

open pilot
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hi all, I have an existing aeotec zwave.. if I add a separate zigbee(sonoff) how difficult is say zwave devices talk to zigbee devices. or I should not even think of this at all? Thanks

brave nacelle
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they are 2 separate protocols

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they don't communicate the same

sour shadow
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However, you can absolutely use HA as the "bridge" - that's very much the point of HA

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I for long enough used a Z-Wave button to control a WiFi light, through an automation

brave nacelle
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that's awesome 🙂

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i'm having trouble finding many zigbee neutral-not-required devices :/

sour shadow
brave nacelle
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it's not so much the device/zigbee as ones that don't require a neutral wire

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i have old electric in here 😦

sour shadow
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Sure, but ... that list has loads

brave nacelle
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ohhhh!

open pilot
sour shadow
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The underlying technology is irrelevant to HA

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The only thing that matters is the domain of an entity, whether that switch is Zigbee, Z-Wave, WiFi, or something else .... it's all the same switch.turn_on service call

open pilot
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Can my zwavejs talk to the ZigBee counterpart. Considering I just upgraded to Js. Do I need mqtt js?

sour shadow
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However, you can absolutely use HA as the "bridge" - that's very much the point of HA

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No, Z-Wave JS can't talk to Zigbee

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Z-Wave JS talks with HA

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HA talks with Zigbee, or WiFi, or a cloud service, or ...

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HA is your hub, the central brains. HA can talk with anything you connect to it.

open pilot
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Ok got it HA is the broker

final pawn
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Can someone please tell me where to find (Youtube, Internet, etc) how to configure (Link, specific settings, notifications, etc) and what all these #zigbee-archived2MQTT settings are for, I can't find them anywhere. Thank you!!

sour shadow
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There's both a link there to all the docs (Guide) and also a search feature

final pawn
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I'm sorry but I don't see it, I have searched the entire page and in the search engine and I can't find it. I mean end point
cluster
Temperature
Attribute
measuredValue
minimum interval
maximum interval
minimum change

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etc

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Why i can not share images here?

rapid dawnBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

sour shadow
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Those are part of the Zigbee spec, and aren't something that the Z2M docs cover

fast sentinel
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good morning! silly question.. troubleshooting some warnings, trying to find a device with a specific NWK, ie: 0xCD37, or IEEE ie: 00:17:88:01:0b:e7:04:d3 - how can i find the device associated with this in HA/ZHA? other than opening each device manually..

sudden stratus
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Hi, I have a few tuya smart covers (ts0601_cover) that after updating seems to have stopped working. I can control them through zigbee2mqtt frontend but home assistant only shows linkquality when in the past they would show up as covers.

ivory trail
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What would people recommend for a Zigbee button array I could put on the wall to control on/off states through HA. I guess 3-4 buttons would be enough. Nothing fancy. I am using deConz.

molten linden
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then set up a new dashboard panel view with just that card. you'll get a table with all your devices can include NWK AND IEEE to make searching for them easy

lusty trench
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Hi how do I factory reset zigbee dongle ? I’m running zha but want to swap to mqtt

fast sentinel
fast sentinel
lusty trench
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It didn’t :/ not showing at all

restive tartan
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I need a temperature sensor to put outdoor (will be covered, so indoor sensors work too). The only requirement would be high accuracy. Any suggestions? US market

lilac wharf
lusty trench
lilac wharf
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Anything in the z2m log?

lusty trench
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its on port: /dev/ttyACM0
maybe if i change the port? But how do i do it?

log says:
gbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 17:40:48: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 17:40:48: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 17:40:48: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 17:40:48: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)

lilac wharf
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What adapter are you using?

lusty trench
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SONOFF Universal Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus

lilac wharf
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P or E?

lusty trench
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well how do i check that?

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found it

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its E

lilac wharf
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That's why then

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But also possibly the path you used which seems strange. Look for it at /dev/serial/by-id/

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Also, you'll need to add

serial:
  adapter: ezsp

in the z2m config. That stick only has experimental support with z2m though.

lusty trench
lilac wharf
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I assume you're running HA OS?

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I think there's a way to see it somewhere in the Supervisor menu, but I have no clue since I run HA Container

lusty trench
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so after /dev/serial/by-id i got usb-ITED_SONOFF zigbe etc all (full name _) and thats it

lilac wharf
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Yeah, use that path

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And also update your config accordingly with what I showed above

lusty trench
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i always have something different -_- that all the yt videos.. There is no path after that command just full name of device.

lusty trench
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is there any way i can factory reset that dongle? maybe will be easier

lilac wharf
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I'm saying use the /dev/serial/by-id path that you found instead of /dev/ttyACM0

lusty trench
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i did it now, exact same error

lilac wharf
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|| I know you didn't because that error wouldn't appear if you did ||

rapid dawnBOT
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@lusty trench I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
lusty trench
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sorry i am still learning ha

lilac wharf
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It needs to be the entire /dev/serial/by-id/SONOFF... path

austere patio
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"adapter ezsp" doesn't seem right either

lilac wharf
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And

"adapter ezsp"
``` should be

"adapter": "ezsp"

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I thought HA switched from JSON to YAML for add-on configs 🤔

lusty trench
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well it is same problem error

lilac wharf
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Share your current z2m config and the error

lusty trench
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i think it will be easeir to just buy new dongle ;D

rapid dawnBOT
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@lusty trench I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
lusty trench
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 18:07:36: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 18:07:36: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 18:07:36: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 18:07:36: Error: Error while opening serialport 'Error: Error: Is a directory, cannot open /dev/serial/by-id'

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i have changed it like you said

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but after reseting add-on it comes back

lilac wharf
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No, you haven't

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The adapter: ezsp part is missing and you're still not using the full /dev/serial/by-id path

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For example, the path for my adapter is

/dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_CP2102N_USB_to_UART_Bridge_Controller_080368199893eb118330214f3d98b6d1-if00-port0
lusty trench
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at least different error 😄

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npm ERR! code ELIFECYCLE
npm ERR! errno 1
npm ERR! zigbee2mqtt@1.18.1 start: node index.js
npm ERR! Exit status 1
npm ERR!
npm ERR! Failed at the zigbee2mqtt@1.18.1 start script.
npm ERR! This is probably not a problem with npm. There is likely additional logging output above.
npm ERR! A complete log of this run can be found in:
npm ERR! /root/.npm/_logs/2022-11-16T18_09_56_537Z-debug.log

lilac wharf
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Why are you using JSON in z2m's configuration.yaml? I mean, you can, but it's strange

lusty trench
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well i just installed it from the add-ons it was like that

lilac wharf
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Got it

lusty trench
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honestly there is another Zigbee2MQTT i installed Zigbe2mqtt

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difference in capital lettes

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weiord maybe i should try install the one with capital letters?

lilac wharf
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I have no idea. There's only one zigbee2mqtt add-on that's current

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Anyway, I've given you the answers that you need

lusty trench
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i really appreciate them

austere patio
#

Also, make sure to put a comma at the end of "port": "/dev/serial/by-id/...", like "port": "/dev/serial/by-id/...",

lilac wharf
#

Tbh though, you might as well just stick with ZHA. Like I said before, that adapter only has experimental support in z2m. The P version is well supported, not the E

lusty trench
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i wish to stay with ZHA but some devices functions are not supported on zha ;/

lusty trench
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ok managed to move forward but receive that now.:
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
READ THIS CAREFULLY
Refusing to start because configuration is not valid, found the following errors:

raven jewel
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Where did you get the add on version from?

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Because there's the old one and the new one, and the new one uses a YAML config with a nice entry form on top of it.

lusty trench
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okay something weird happened i removed old version installed 1.28 and here is the thing none of the addons actually working, but i am able to acces zigbe2mqtt interface 😄

tropic depot
lusty trench
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Yep

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I managed to run this now, but facing another issue 😦

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Cannot find entities from devices in m2qtt

smoky tapir
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zha and m2qtt appear to show those differently (as I discovered recently lookint at z2m vs zha blueprints for zigbee)

lusty trench
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That’s weird I paired all devices but I’m unable to add them anywhere as there is no entities

smoky tapir
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disabled? (make sure you turn off the filter)

lusty trench
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They it’s not appear anywhere.

#

I got it, had to log in mqtt mosquito with my host ip

clever geyser
austere patio
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It means you should switch to a better coordinator 😆

#

There is no concurrency limiting for the zigate because it does not appear to properly notify the application that a packet was sent

#

Do you get the warning when you turn a lot of devices on or off?

#

Have you tried updating its firmware to the most recent release?

clever geyser
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Yes it may happen in such scenario, but will have to verify. Firmware is relatively fresh as I upgraded it one month ago when zha stopped working due to upgrade need.

austere patio
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Then you must be using a ZiGate v1?

clever geyser
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Is there a v2 😅

austere patio
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https://github.com/fairecasoimeme/ZiGate

⚠️ The JN6518 coordinator firmware (ZiGate v1) is in maintenance mode. Pull-requests and occasional critical bug fixes may be released, but no ongoingactive development is currently being done.

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There is but if you're going to be buying a new coordinator, do not buy another ZiGate

clever geyser
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I switched from deconz, after fighting with blinking lights. I was mostly happy with it. Seems I was wrong

austere patio
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If you have a Conbee then it is a better solution

clever geyser
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Is there some comparisons of coordinators? Which are trash and which not?

austere patio
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ZiGate << Conbee < EFR32 <= CC2652

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There's unfortunately no auto migration from the ZiGate (unless you also buy a network sniffer like the nRF52840 to capture the network key when joining a new device) so you will have to re-join all of your devices

grim igloo
clever geyser
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I guess I'll try to return it, wonder how French law is going to handle it.

clever geyser
austere patio
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Not if you use a coordinator that isn't the ZiGate 😆

austere patio
grim igloo
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Specifically referring to zha and current device support?

austere patio
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No, there's a firmware bug that prevents battery-operated IKEA devices from being joined straight to the coordinator. Also a bug with Inovelli switches running old firmware. Neither affects the Silicon Labs radios.

grim igloo
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Not affecting the inovelli blue with latest stable fw then?

austere patio
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I think Inovelli fixed it in their latest firmware

clever geyser
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Thank you all.

hushed scroll
#

I've been trying to get zigbee2mqtt to work. At this point it spits out an error something to do with "zigbee herdsman" Anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this thing?

lilac wharf
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Possibly, if you share the error message

hushed scroll
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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 16:24:05: Error while starting zigbee-herdsman
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 16:24:05: Failed to start zigbee
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 16:24:05: Check https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/installation/20_zigbee2mqtt-fails-to-start.html for possible solutions
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 16:24:05: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-16 16:24:05: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)
at ZStackAdapter.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/adapter/z-stack/adapter/zStackAdapter.ts:103:27)
at Controller.start (/app/node_modules/zigbee-herdsman/src/controller/controller.ts:132:29)
at Zigbee.start (/app/lib/zigbee.ts:58:27)
at Controller.start (/app/lib/controller.ts:101:27)
at start (/app/index.js:109:5)

lilac wharf
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What adapter are you using?

hushed scroll
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That Nortek USB stick that has Z-wave and a Zigbee controller. But I also have a Sonoff USB 3.0 Zigbee Dongle Plus E put it is not plugged in at the moment.

lilac wharf
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you'll need this in your z2m config:

serial:
  adapter: ezsp
#

Regardless of which of those two adapters you use (both of which aren't great choices for z2m btw)

grim igloo
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Or zwave for the nortek lol

hushed scroll
#

What adapters to you recommend?

lilac wharf
#

Anything CC2652-based like the P version of the Sonoff adapter you have or many of @molten linden 's offerings

#

The P version of the Sonoff adapter is apparently prone to a rare NVRAM corruption issue though

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I haven't seen it happen though

#

Or keep your current adapter and use ZHA instead of z2m

hushed scroll
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I have a sonoff P version, and I heard the E version was supposed to be better so I bought one of those. I haven't trird to upgrade the firmware though

lilac wharf
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Well that changes things

#

The P is well-supported in z2m

#

The E is essentially the same as the P but with a different chipset family

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Not sure if the E version has the same NVRAM bug though...have you seen it on the E @austere patio ?

hushed scroll
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Ok, so help me understand. I was at one point using the ZHA integration. Worked well, but I have a couple of weird little "friends of Hue" devices like little dimmers you put over a regular light switch. I could never get them to pair with the ZHA. And I recently redid my network and put everything in a rack that I had to put in a back corner of my house. Because of that I wanted to try and get rid of the HUe Bridge controllers. And that is why I thought z2m would be a good choice cause it supports more devices. What say you? Is the effort to switch to z2m worth it?

lilac wharf
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z2m supporting more devices is a common misconception

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There's no official device support list for ZHA because anything that follows the zigbee spec will work with ZHA automatically. Anything that doesn't requires a quirk to be written for it. Zigbee2mqtt requires explicit support for every device even if it follows the zigbee spec, so it has a supported device list.

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Arguably z2m supports more non-spec-compliant devices because more people work on z2m than ZHA

#

Regardless, it's up to you. I prefer zigbee2mqtt, but others prefer ZHA

#

|| and some even prefer deconz ||

molten linden
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The E is the Same module that sonoff has used since the Wi-Fi bridge. Over usb it should be okay. But not as good as the efr chip I use or that are in the yellow/sky connect

hushed scroll
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Ok, thanks for helping me understand. Maybe the battle with z2m for me is not worth the fight. When ZHA worked well for most everything.

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Question, I had previously deleted ZHA when I was trying to setup the z2m. Now I reload or re-install the ZHA integration it is finding some sort of ghost configuration from previous. Now I'm not sure it is working correctly.

hushed scroll
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Does anyone know of how to clear out any "ghost" zigbee config from HA so I can start fresh?

molten linden
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are you able to delete the devices?

hushed scroll
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No apparently Im not able to delete old "ghost" devices. I was able to finally get the ZHA working agian I just started over adding devices. But I still show these "ghost" devices.

unborn orbit
#

Anyone have a solution for z2m when OTA gets stuck?

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i've had 4-5 of my devices stuck at Reamining time N/A and can't get them out

smoky tapir
hushed scroll
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Ok, thanks.

spring musk
#

Ive been digging in logs for maybe a week now my zigbee setup seems to have a 5 second delay when activating door sensors etc. I see this. Line 4190: 2022-11-16 09:40:15.775 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>), retry attempt 3 of 5
Line 4194: 2022-11-16 09:40:16.387 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>), retry attempt 4 of 5
Line 4198: 2022-11-16 09:40:16.998 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_znp.zigbee.application] Request failed (Unsuccessful request status code: <Status.MAC_NO_ACK: 233>), retry attempt 5 of 5

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Im having a hard time finding how to troubleshoot this, after the 5of 5 it does the action trigger

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I should also mention that on a fresh reboot the first action of a sensor its instant.

digital mauve
#

is it possible to manage z2m groups through HA?

sour shadow
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In the UI, or via automations?

lusty trench
#

Hey I swapped my ZHA to Zigbee2MQTTand it seems to be slower ? For some reason ? Not sure if it due to the signal or hardware aspect ? Same devices were perfect with ZHA

violet dagger
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or your coordinator is not the best for Z2M

lusty trench
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Which one do you recommend ? I am on zigbee dongle 3.0 E

sour shadow
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That's not the best with Z2M

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CC2652 based, as mentioned in the pins

lusty trench
sour shadow
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Pinned messages

tall tapir
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~pickyourstick

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dunno how that works 🙂

summer viper
#

Afternoon.

Currently setting up my friends HA. He had a ConBee II Stick which was absolutely useless at keeping connected to anything even after upgrading the firmware. He has now bought a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus.

This is running in a VM in Proxmox and setup the same way my VM is setup with the USB Device being passed through to the HomeAssistant, he is also running the exact same model of server as me and Proxmox version.

However when adding the Sonoff Zigbee USB it shows as there and you press "Configure" and it then spins and asks about "Erase network settings and form a new network"

You select that option and it just spins and then will just show a blank box.

zigpy.exceptions.FormationFailure: Network formation refused: there is too much RF interference. Make sure your coordinator is on a USB 2.0 extension cable and away from any sources of interference, like USB 3.0 ports, SSDs, 2.4GHz routers, motherboards, etc.

It's in the loft!

It is plugged into a powered USB Hub with the only extra thing plugged into that hub is a ext hard drive.

fast sentinel
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have you tried bypassing the USB hub and use a short (relatively) extension cable only?

tropic depot
#

the error message even mentions external drives...

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also check the wifi channels in use and use the pinned message to pick a Zigbee channel w/ less interference if it isn't an RF noise issue from where the stick is

broken hare
#

I just recieved the Aqara smart pet feeder c1 in the mail. It's not yet supported by ZHA. What would you guys recommend on doing to get the basics working, or figuring out what commands it needs zigbee wise to send that to zigpy?

tropic depot
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Mine gets here today

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i should have basic functionality all set by the end of the weekend

grim igloo
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Did they send you one to play with?

tropic depot
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no i bought it

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as a rule I generally don't accept devices

grim igloo
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As a YouTuber or something I think that makes sense but as a dev I think it’s fine to be donated devices for including support

tropic depot
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don't want expectations

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I do what I want when I want

austere patio
smoky tapir
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I'm not sure who has access to the pins, but the Sonoff -E or -P stick isn't clear in the pins when i looked.

sour shadow
#

Which of the many pins are you referring to?

smoky tapir
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the second pin about the usb stick cabling is good, and direct information

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If you find people using them, and not asking questions, assume i'm the outlier opinion

sour shadow
smoky tapir
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sonoff -e stick vs sonoff -p stick

sour shadow
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Right... what's the question?

#

Two pinned messages talk about choice of stick, which explain when you'd only want CC2652 vs when you could use either

#

Neither name the Sonoff sticks though

smoky tapir
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yah, though they are common and readily available, and for example the last comment was someone trying to figure out -e on z2m - #zigbee-archived message

#

maybe it's confirmation bias on my part, anyways maybe my suggestion is just to add a sonoff-stick sticky/pinned

waxen nimbus
# 
"Call-service error. Failed to deliver packet: <TXStatus.NWK_BT_TABLE_FULL: 210>"

Technically node-red, but probably more relevant here. I think I'm swamping the light.turn_on call-service, which should be delivering commands via ZHA over a ConBee II. I'm calling it (up to) ~70 times in ~3 seconds, which works fine sometimes, but usually throws up a couple of these TXStatus.NWK_BT_TABLE_FULL errors, usually after at least 10 commands if at all. The target entities are a mix of bulbs, dimmers, and light groups. I can mostly send all messages with ~50ms delay between them, but I have to rate limit them to 1Hz to consistently not get this error. Telling the node to queue messages changes nothing, and a cursory look at zigpy_deconz tells me it should be attempting to 'limit concurrency' as well. Google tells me preciously little too...

  • does this retry after an error? I'm not noticing any issues but that's likely because I can't even tell what issue I should notice.
  • which call even failed? I'm targeting entities dynamically and I don't trust node-red's debug/logs to represent reality with its async message handling
  • is this NWK_BT_TABLE diagnosable?
    how can I go about debugging this? 😂
sour shadow
smoky tapir
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nevermind, carry on

undone steppe
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Hi all, can anyone give me some tips with Zigbee? Basically, I have an external MariaDB server and i want to update the database at 10 minute intervals. The Zigbee sensors just update whenever a change in level is detected. (Temp, humidity, etc.) Ive tried scan_interval and commit_interval but can't seem to get the change to work. If anyone can point me in the right direction that would be great

sour shadow
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Why?

#

Why are you trying to force a state update at a fixed interval?

undone steppe
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performing discrete time simulations for uni

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without going into too much detail, we just want discrete, uniform time samples from these temperature sensors

sour shadow
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Some Zigbee sensors support having their reporting configured

#

Most don't

#

If you're really lucky, you've got ones that do... but the only way to find out is to try and configure them to report at a fixed interval. How you do that depends on whether you're using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT, or even deCONZ

undone steppe
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Im on ZHA. so even force_update on HA's end wouldn't really be a workaround ?

#

sorry im also quite new to HA, reading through as much documentation as I can

sour shadow
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The thing is, you can do what you want on the HA end, but it still needs the sensors to send data

#

If nothing changes, there's nothing to write to the database

molten linden
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most sensors will update periodically or when there is a change

sour shadow
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None of my Xiaomi Aqara sensors support having what they do changed. The Mijia light sensor does, as does my Develco/Frient multi-sensor

molten linden
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even if you can update how often, they will still report on any change of what they are sensing.

#

Maybe use node red or something the buffer the changes to only send every 10 minutes. 🤷🏼‍♂️

lyric mortar
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I received advice from here earlier this week on optimizing my ZigBee network and am looking for a little more. My aqara sensors disconnect daily despite adding a USB extender to my coordinator, changing from ZHA to Z2M, and changing channels. Any other suggestions?

undone steppe
sour shadow
#

Well, then there's nothing you can do about changing how they report

molten linden
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you can also use the filter component - you can create entities that only update based on a time pattern.

undone steppe
molten linden
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just black list the original zigbee entities from recorder - and log the filtered ones to the db

undone steppe
#

definitely need to look into that more then

molten linden
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I did this for a sensor that would spam the db every 2 seconds

waxen nimbus
austere patio
waxen nimbus
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Somewhere in there I say that I do. Just not all. I keep a central state object and push changes to all changed light( group)s when relevant, so for the most part their settings are not alike

#

All lights that react alike are in groups

austere patio
#

70 unicast/broadcast requests in three seconds is pretty much saturating the channel

waxen nimbus
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I am aware, I don't mind that it saturates or that there are delays, I just don't know what fails or how to rate-limit it reasonably so I can't really recover from it gracefully

austere patio
#

You can reduce the concurrency with a config option (it's currently set to 8) but that's about all you can do, the radio library asks the radio to send a packet, and if it fails that's the status code. There is some retrying built into portions of ZHA.

# 
zha:
  zigpy_config:
    max_concurrent_requests: 8
waxen nimbus
#

Assuming you're talking about zigpy, its concurrency seems to delay a message rather than throw an error. So this error is different from that, no?

austere patio
#

The default for zigpy-deconz is somewhat arbitrary, it's what I settled on after turning a bunch of lights on and off really fast. Anything much higher leads to errors but 8 for me seemed to get it to reliably send things.

#

That error specifically is one I've not encountered yet:

BT_TABLE_FULL:
Indicates that an attempt to send a broadcast frame or member mode multicast has failed due to the fact that there is no room in the BTT.

#

This is caused by the group commands you're sending

#

Perhaps more artificial limiting is needed for broadcast/multicast frames...

waxen nimbus
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I can try to rate limit the group messages specifically, I am willing to assume those are significantly less likely to be sent simultaneously. except on startup/reload, but then such delays are acceptable.

austere patio
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I meant within the radio library specifically, it's not something that you really should be handling in automation code. If you want to try to apply a patch to the radio library, it should be easy to implement.

waxen nimbus
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Agreed but I can easily filter them in my node-red pipeline, it's no hassle to test whether a dumb solution is acceptable short-term

austere patio
#

How many concurrent group commands are you sending?

waxen nimbus
#

9 on a fresh start

grim igloo
#

After reading up I’m super curious why you need to do a service call so often to so many bulbs.. are you trying to recreate the wheel with hass and zigbee instead of using like e1.31 / dmx for led lighting control?

austere patio
#

You could also switch to a different radio with firmware that better handles this stuff, like the Sonoff stick v2 or the SkyConnect

#

I'll have to test it though, I don't think any of the libraries are configured to deal with so many concurrent broadcasts

waxen nimbus
grim igloo
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Won’t this contribute to them failing early?

#

If you had Wi-Fi bulbs they could run wled and be controlled by xlights or dmx or lots of other ways

#

Artnet etc

waxen nimbus
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I'm not sure what you're imagining, but each burst of commands is triggered by a human action and acts on each bulb at most once, there's just a lot of activity happening on the network.

grim igloo
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Above I read 70 commands in 3 seconds iirc

waxen nimbus
#

so if I refresh my node-red and it tells all bulbs what color they should be, that's ~70 commands at once. but averaged over a day, it's not that much

austere patio
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I don't think the LEDs care that much if they're being controlled 😆. Maybe thermal stress over long periods of time if you keep them outside and continuously cycle them between freezing cold and too hot to touch but I'd imagine Hue bulbs will be fine.

waxen nimbus
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could've swore my parents told me to stop playing with the lights when I was young because that's hell on energy costs and bulb lifetime 🤣

waxen nimbus
strange ibex
#

Hue entertainment API does 25 updates per second

grim igloo
austere patio
strange ibex
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@grim igloo works fine for me

tulip patrol
#

I can vouch for the sonoff zbdongle-e with RCP firmware and the silabs-multiprotocol addon on ZHA, flawless

austere patio
tulip patrol
#

just don't try to flash the skyconnect firmware onto the zbdongle-e, the pinout is different, you will need to either compile your own or find someone who has

austere patio
tulip patrol
#

yeah, was previously using zbdongle-p, then zbdongle-e with NCP firmware

austere patio
#

Any stability issues with the RCP firmware so far?

tulip patrol
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none, completely stable

austere patio
#

Awesome

#

Are you also running the Thread half of the firmware with Matter, or just the Zigbee half?

grim igloo
tulip patrol
#

I'm running the openthread border router as well, but have yet to connect any devices to it

#

@grim igloo zigbee + thread on the same radio

#

same as skyconnect

grim igloo
#

Same thing the si labs chip is doing in the yellow?

#

I’m still curious what limitations that has. Isn’t it using like ‘downtime’ to sneak in between each other (thread and zigbee)?

lilac wharf
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It just passes the raw radio data for both protocols through to software

austere patio
#

Zigbee and Thread are both built on top of 802.15.4, which handles the hard part. It's no different from having two Zigbee networks nearby sharing the same channel (or even two devices from the same network on the same channel)

#

The RCP multi-PAN firmware moves the Zigbee half of the firmware to the computer, theoretically giving you much bigger table sizes and such, since you're not limited to a microcontroller in the same way

#

It's ARM-only though, so you'd either need a Yellow/Pi or run it via qemu

tulip patrol
#

or supervised on an arm sbc

grim igloo
#

And the compute or io for this is low enough to where a pi running hass and multiple addons doesn’t skip a beat?

tulip patrol
#

depends on your hardware I guess, I'm running supervised on an orange pi 4 lts, with emmc, it's lightning fast

lilac wharf
#

So HA OS really doesn't work on the orange pi?

tulip patrol
#

it might, if you don't want wifi at all

grim igloo
lilac wharf
#

WiFi for a server 🤢

tulip patrol
#

I use the wifi for an iot access point with external access on a toggle

#

please

lilac wharf
#

But nah, if it really doesn't work then you're the only HA Supervised user I've met that actually has a valid reason for running Supervised over HA OS 🤣

tulip patrol
#

as this has an external antenna

grim igloo
#

Isn’t a server with a wlan interface just as susceptible to penetration as if that’s how it connected to your lan though?

tulip patrol
#

by who? my neighbours?

grim igloo
#

Lol

waxen nimbus
#

I don't think the wifi comment was related to penetration?

lilac wharf
#

That, and also || hehe penetration ||

grim igloo
#

Are you all suggesting we should be ok with penetration?

#

network penetration

lilac wharf
#

Nobody mentioned anything about it

grim igloo
#

I did?

austere patio
#

Let's keep it Zigbee...

lilac wharf
#

Before that I mean

waxen nimbus
# austere patio I *think* this should work: https://dpaste.com/A6TWLYSHY

I may have seriously hurt my HA trying to update this live. ZHA got an error "Failed to set up" and after restarting the web ui doesn't seem to work anymore and core won't reload. /config/.storage/core.entity_registry got corrupted and rebuilding core fixed the rest. I'll try again tomorrow with a proper snapshot (and hopefully a fresher head) 😓

bold topaz
#

Hi, I have a Nortek GoControl passed through as /dev/ttyUSB1, I try to enable it and I keep getting "Failed to connect"

tropic depot
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Make sure you are connecting to the correct tty for it… meaning zigbee and not zwave

wide grotto
#

I cant get the "Blue print to work with Aqara vibration sensor for automation to trigger notification or other action when Dishwasher or washing Machine is done" to work. Can anyone help me what i am doing wrong?

last ruin
#

There's this power outlet Zigbee 3.0 from Connecte that requires a firmware upgrade to support 'turn on after power outage'. Connecte says that you can't do that from Z2M but you need to use any other Zigbee hub. Why would any other hub work and not Z2M?

gaunt flume
#

Quick question: Within Z2M is there a way to see which device runs what zigbee version?
I heard that when a zigbee device is introduced into the network that does not support version 3.0 the network defaults to an older zigbee standard - there a way to check if that is happening in my network?

sour shadow
#

I cant get the Blue print to work with

jaunty maple
sour shadow
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Yes

gaunt flume
jaunty maple
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I bought it and according to the spec it should be the P version

opal trail
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I’m having issues with my Centralite thermostats where after some time I am unable to change the set temperature, even though they are reporting back the current temperature. Does anyone have suggestions on how to troubleshoot this kind of issue? Leaving and rejoining the network fixes it temporarily, but then it continues to happen 2-3 days later. I’ve got Aqara temperature sensors and Aqara door sensors that continue to work just fine with my TubesZB CC2652P2 coordinator, and the thermostats continue to accurately report the current temperature. Today the thermostat closest to the coordinator (~144 LQI, same room) is unable to be set- I’m just struggling trying to figure out what logs or place to look in order to track this issue down- thanks for any help

fast sentinel
# opal trail I’m having issues with my Centralite thermostats where after some time I am unab...

oi! you can enable debug logging, but have you looked at the logs as is in system -> logs?
to enable debug logs you can add these to your configuration.yaml
alogger:
default: info
logs:
homeassistant.core: debug
homeassistant.components.zha: debug
bellows.zigbee.application: debug
bellows.ezsp: debug
zigpy: debug
zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application: debug
zigpy_deconz.api: debug
zigpy_xbee.zigbee.application: debug
zigpy_xbee.api: debug
zigpy_zigate: debug
zigpy_znp: debug
zhaquirks: debug

opal trail
austere patio
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That logging config is for ZHA

fast sentinel
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sorry i didnt see he was z2m 😮

fast sentinel
vernal bridge
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Hi everybody, i have question about zigbee2mqtt. I just switched from ZHA to Z2M and from Deconz to SonOff dongle. I want to install some sensor at the cottage and i read there that i can install a remote coordinator with an Sonoff Zigbee Bridge (it's already flashed with tasmota, and was operationnal when i switched to Deconz), i thought opening a port on the cottage router and using a duckdns adress to access it remotly, bu before doing it (idon't want to break my home zigbee network) is it something that would work?

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I don't have a HomneAssistant instance at the cottage, and don't plan to do it because the cottage is offgridd, i have fiberoptic internet, but i'm on solar panel with not that much power.

austere patio
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The Sonoff Zigbee Bridge already has issues communicating over a local network over WiFi, I don't expect it to work very well when you expose it to the public internet (!) and then add in the latency of routing it over the internet

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I think you'd have better luck running Z2M itself on a SBC in the cottage with a normal USB coordinator and then having it either connect to a remote MQTT broker, or run two MQTT brokers (one in each location) and bridge them with a site-to-site VPN

vernal bridge
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Thanks puddly for your advise, i don't need to have real time information from the sensors, i need only temperature reading like 3 or 4 time in a day, planning to set a rule to restart every hour the bridge to bypass the communication issue. I'm aware of the reliabilty issue of this bridge, i just want to know theroricly if that gone work, and if it's gone break my main zigbee network if i add this line in the configuration.yaml :

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serial:
port: >-
/dev/serial/by-id/usb-ITead_Sonoff_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_50c51a8a011aec11a00d77e5f01c6278-if00-port0
port: 'tcp://mycottage.duckdns.org:9999'
adapter: ezsp

austere patio
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Theoretically all the things connect, as will random port scanners who will stumble upon your bridge 😆. Z2M supports multiple installations. If you give them a different base MQTT topics, the two are entirely independent.

vernal bridge
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For energy saving purpose, my modem and router are set turn on every hour for 5 minutes when i'm not a the cottage, all automation equipment are shutdown when i'm a the cottage, that's why i'm not shy to opening a port.

austere patio
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Sensor readings come in from sensors somewhat randomly so I'm not sure if keeping the Zigbee coordinator online for only 8% of the time will be enough to receive reports reliably, and to also keep a sensor joined to the network (since its only parent router will be shut off 92% of the time)

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An alternative would be to use a powered USB hub with an always-on 5V supply. Coordinators draw like 50mA when they're not transmitting. If you keep your networking equipment and SBC shut down to conserve power, that should keep the Zigbee network operating. But you'll still run into the issue of receiving reports while the power is off.

vernal bridge
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I was planning to put the Bridge under power all the time when i'm not at the cottage, it's because of it's low consumption that i'm considerating this option. Instead of powering up my internt 5 minutes every hour, i can change that for 30 minutes every 2 or 3 hours. the 8% uptime, i can live with raising it up to 30%.

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All my automation hardware are under Tasmota and have integreted rule to work even when there's no internet, the internet is there for monitoring purpose only (keeping my water from freezing ), the main usage of the power is for the heater, and when there's not enought power, the propane heater kick off. All device are routed to my home SBC for monitoring via MQTT. Work fine. But i need more temperature sensor without adding more energy usage. It's complicate but i like that.

austere patio
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I dunno if I would trust Zigbee for something like remote temperature monitoring to prevent pipe freezing where you have to shut down equipment to keep it running 😅. Maybe with a hardwired backup thermostat...

waxen nimbus
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It's complicate but i like that.
ah yes, nothing quite like a healthy dose of Stockholm syndrome

opal trail
bold topaz
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I've had this working on hassos but when I switch to a container it does not work

tropic depot
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then you are outside of the scope of zigbee and it is something w/ your configuration

austere patio
bold topaz
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total 0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 18 02:41 usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_8130032E-if00-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Nov 18 02:41 usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_8130032E-if01-port0 -> ../../ttyUSB1
austere patio
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I'm pretty sure /dev/ttyUSB0 is the Zigbee half

bold topaz
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I can try 0 again but it doesn't seem to work either

austere patio
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If you use /dev/serial/by-id/usb-Silicon_Labs_HubZ_Smart_Home_Controller_8130032E-if00-port0 instead of /dev/ttyUSB0, the path won't change even if you plug in different devices or the kernel decides to reorder the ports

bold topaz
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and I dont need to map /dev/ttyUSB*?

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well either way it doesn't work :/

vernal bridge
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Thanks everybody for your advise

gaunt flume
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Anybody got experience with the "new" Aqara P1? I heard that some people have problems with the sensor not picking up motion and was wondering if thats just user error because they did not adjust the sensitivity setting or if its a real problem?!

sour shadow
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I've got one, and it's working fine

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Detection range is 5 meters... which is as far away as I can get from it while still being in line of sight

gaunt flume
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Are you using Z2M by any chance?

sour shadow
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Yes

gaunt flume
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Because the old motion sensors (and other aqara sensors for that matter) dont show up in the OTA section - can the new once receive firmware updates?

sour shadow
gaunt flume
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ahh ty I am an idiot

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Guess I will get one to see if it works well - I hope they do because on paper they do everything the hue one can do but at like half the price

vast yoke
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Can someone please remind me why it was a general consensus to avoid WiFi devices in favour of Zigbee/Z-Wave? I got the idea but I wanted to remind myself a summary.

gaunt flume
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The biggest gripe I had with the old one was that the cooldown was way to long and the new one fixes that.

sour shadow
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  1. Battery life for WiFi sensors is ... shocking
vast yoke
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What about Wifi but local? I'm just trying to find some light switches in the UK, and the Shelly brand gets recommended often. But everything they do is WiFi I think. Although someone told me it was WiFi but local.
(might be better to ask in #hardware-archived?)

sour shadow
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WiFi switches ... if they're local, they're ok

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Personally, if you're thinking of Zigbee sensors, get Zigbee switches too

gaunt flume
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Well a lot of people use the wifi router/modem/firewall that their ISP gives them. Those things cannot handle a lot of concurrent devices which has caused a lot of problems for a lot of people.

vast yoke
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yeah my plan was everything zigbee. Just confused about all the recommendations of Shelly. But ok, will keep looking.

sour shadow
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Some people love their cheap WiFi devices, but if you do that you're missing the opportunity to build a healthy Zigbee mesh

lilac wharf
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i do like the configurability of my tasmota switches/lights though

vast yoke
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yeah, exactly. I was planning to rely on switches as my routers tbh

lilac wharf
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i just use zigbee smart plugs to build out the mesh

vast yoke
waxen nimbus
gaunt flume
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If you are interested I use wifi devices (sonoff, shelly, etc) for like power metering outlets and suff like that and I use Zigbee for Lights and Sensors. I found that if you have a zigbee ceiling light in every room the mesh is strong enough to handle all the sensors.

lilac wharf
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i don't have a use for the plugs either. they're just sort of hidden away

lilac wharf
vast yoke
gaunt flume
lilac wharf
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they don't necessarily need to be centered in the room to be effective

vast yoke
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true. Will see once it's in place. But I prefer adding an extra plug here or there to complement, than adding 6 zigbee spotlights. I think that would be much more expensive and wouldn't give me extra functions for them.

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I have lots of spotlights in the house, and having to pay premium for each just seems dumb, when I don't need colours or fancy stuff on them.

lilac wharf
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i'm also not sure why it would matter that they're lower than the lights

sour shadow
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Helps the packets flow downhill

gaunt flume
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xD

lilac wharf
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if anything, centered on the wall is arguably better because of the donut effect

vast yoke
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for a sec I considered if it wasn't a joke

waxen nimbus
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tends to be more stuff in the way lower down, but that probably doesn't affect signal strength too much

gaunt flume
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its was more like - they are more likely to be obstructed by something when they are lower.

lilac wharf
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i suppose

gaunt flume
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And I did say he MAY need to add something.

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MAY

lilac wharf
gaunt flume
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And then you can dim them :)

waxen nimbus
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unless they're already on a dimmer

gaunt flume
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true

vast yoke
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fair enough. I guess both ways work. But I already got all my dimmable dumb spotlights anyway, so too late. 😅 Now I have to find the proper switches, which is my current mission.

gaunt flume
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I have not used the hue once but I have heard good things and I guess they work just like the sonoff minir2's

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nvm scratch that

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they very much do not work like the sonoff minir2s and are not for your use-case

waxen nimbus
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Dimmable switches? I have a handful of Klemko's D-PAF-ZG-250 and they're been the most stable thing in my network. is a bit specific though

vast yoke
gaunt flume
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As far as I am aware the aqara switches are just switches not dimmers.

fast sentinel
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anyone know a place to better understand ezsp_config parameters (ZHA)? i enabled source_routing, and was suggested the following parameters:
ezsp_config:
CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE: 165

CONFIG_APS_ACK_TIMEOUT: 1600

  CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE: 16
  CONFIG_APS_UNICAST_MESSAGE_COUNT: 12
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would love to know what they are doing before enabling..

austere patio
fast sentinel
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thank you for the link! understood - trying to figure out what i need to make this 120 device network stable. hoping that tweaking some of these parameters will do it

austere patio
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I would start with source routing alone and maybe set the source route table size to 120 while leaving everything else at the default value

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Which stick are you using?

fast sentinel
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great, will try that now. i am using the SONOFF zigbee 3.0 -E adapter

austere patio
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Ah, the one with all the firmware problems 😆

fast sentinel
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you guys generally don’t like this stick right? im happy to throw it in the garbage if there’s an optimal option

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oh hi 😄

austere patio
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The hardware is fine, Sonoff just doesn't publish what exactly they tweaked

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More than a few reports of the firmware crashing with an assertion failure in the Home Assistant issue tracker, which I've never seen with any other stick using the same chip

fast sentinel
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ahh i see - thankfully none of that yet here.. but i can also flash it with whatever is best, is there a version you feel is most stable now?

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(firmware)

austere patio
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This worked for another user, which enforces the firmware defaults for the Sonoff stick:

zha:
  zigpy_config:
    ezsp_config:
      CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE:              16  # FW:  32, ZHA:  16
      CONFIG_MULTICAST_TABLE_SIZE:             8  # FW:   8, ZHA:  16
      CONFIG_PACKET_BUFFER_COUNT:            250  # FW: 250, ZHA: 255
      CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE:         16  # FW: 200, ZHA:  16
      CONFIG_TRUST_CENTER_ADDRESS_CACHE_SIZE:  2  # FW:   0, ZHA:   2

See if that helps. If not, maybe try it with source routing.

waxen nimbus
# austere patio I *think* this should work: https://dpaste.com/A6TWLYSHY

Btw puddly, this doesn't really work in isolation. it seems the BT table only has 4 slots (for me?) so whatever delay I put here doesn't fix the errors. But if I set zha.zigpy_config.max_concurrent_requests = 4 in addition to the second delay per group message (0.5 doesn't work), it does work without errors. That does have the tendency to jam up, however.

grim igloo
austere patio
grim igloo
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that's not a fun answer -.-

austere patio
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If it works and you want it to not work, try random config you find online

grim igloo
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i'd rather know what to expect when planning out a network with 100+ devices costing anywhere from $15 to $70 each

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instead of running into hurdles as they come

waxen nimbus
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ez, just split up your network

grim igloo
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i thought splitting up network was bad because of the CTS (clear to send) or w/e where the radios wait for the channel to be clear before sending (please correct me with the proper term here)

waxen nimbus
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I'm joking, I haven't no idea

austere patio
waxen nimbus
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thanks 😁

austere patio
grim igloo
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yeah i get that

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i just like absorbing knowledge i might need in the future instead of trying to go looking for it whenever i need it

austere patio
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If you want to play around with the config, by all means give it a try. You (probably) won't break anything that won't be fixed by stick reboot.

grim igloo
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i'm on z2m i wouldnt know where to start :x

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around ~50 devices so far working well but will be replacing zwave switches with zigbee to bind to zigbee bulbs in the future along with a shitload more sensors

tropic depot
broken hare
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Imma cancel that right now. Thanks for taking the time to scroll back and mention me

tropic depot
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🙂 i replied almost immediately IIRC saying I was gonna do it 😄

broken hare
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Yeah i saw that, but i thought you were talking to the other guy about that dongle

tropic depot
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honestly the hub would not have helped... I have no clue how the dude in the z2m PR decoded this. They did some crazy shit

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at least i don't think it would have

grim igloo
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maybe they work at aqara and just know a lot of us dont use their hub lol

broken hare
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Do you have a link to that PR? Maybe i can force that in to my installation right now and maybe save my marriage

tropic depot
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it needs HA changes too

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why would a pet feeder save a marriage??

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lol

grim igloo
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he married a cat

broken hare
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hehe found it, nvm

tropic depot
broken hare
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My cat scratches the bedroom door, resulting in my wife going nuts. I kinda promised her i'd fix it by tonight

tropic depot
broken hare
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I bought the wrong hub on our version of ebay, so that won't work either

grim igloo
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im curious.. is this splitting feeding into multiple times a day for a diet or old cat or something?

tropic depot
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some over eat if you just keep food going

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they get bored just like us

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lol

grim igloo
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yeah i had to stop free feeding cuz one is a pig

broken hare
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My cat would eat itself to death without any hesitation. 'yolo'

grim igloo
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what are you guys planning to do with it with home assistant that you couldnt do with a non-IoT feeder?

broken hare
waxen nimbus
grim igloo
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ah yeah

quartz flume
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Hey, so I was wanting to make some components which I can't buy where I live, and was wondering where can I find the first steps on how to do it? Right now would be a pressure sensor, I could just modify a door sensor, which I did, but, would be cool to be able to code the chip and build from the scratch, if possible.

grim igloo
quartz flume
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No, I have done with esphone, but now I would like to try doing with ZigBee, is possible?

austere patio
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Zigbee isn't really suited for DIY projects due to its rigidity so there's no user-friendly SDK for it, but the manufacturer SDKs (like from Silicon Labs) aren't too bad

molten linden
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a few projects using the nordic chips have popped up recently.

grim igloo
molten linden
molten linden
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worst case I can use BT if I can't get the zigbee to work.

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but I was looking at the source and it also doesn't look super complicated with the nordic sdk zephyr stuff

grim igloo
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yeah i've been wanting to automate a garden for a long time and finally got a bluetooth mesh going with bt proxies but i still like the idea of anything else before going bt lol

quartz flume
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Too bad is that complicate, but I will take a look into silicon labs, smart homes are so much better with diy, and ZigBee is such a good protocol for it... Sad

waxen nimbus
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dunno, you might be looking for a problem most people don't have. in the case of sensors, dumb tends to be good enough and usually off-the-shelf is competitive in price with DIY and a lot less effort

quartz flume
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Right now, I want a sensor to detect when some one is on the sofa , presence sensors just are not enough, it lose the presense if you fall sleep. And such sensor is not possible to buy where I live. Also, is cool to build stuff

waxen nimbus
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well, as you said, it's possible to do that a lot easier but you want to do it the hard way because it's fun

grim igloo
quartz flume
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Yea a ultrasonic would work, prob would need at least 2, right now I'm building the sensor using door sensors and modding it, the proto worked, I prefer not depend of wifi

waxen nimbus
grim igloo
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saves that for later

quartz flume
broken hare
austere patio
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Did they ship it with the wrong firmware?

tropic depot
broken hare
tropic depot
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appreciate it but no need!

lilac wharf
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I'll take it

broken hare
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Did you do a firmware update with the bridge?

tropic depot
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I don’t have a Xiaomi hub at all

mellow geode
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FYI, @ Otnow on GitHub can fetch Aqara OTA updates (without having the product or a hub) in case there are any new versions available

flint sluice
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Do you have a suggestion for a zigbee compatible blinds wand?

snow tinsel
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Hi. Looking for recommendations for UK zigbee light switches please.
So many options, just on Amazon... MOES, MoesGo, Aqara, Xenon
I understand the Aqara ones only work with their hub.
I'm advised the others need a Tuya compatible zigbee hub.
And that I could not just use the zigbee hub in an Amazon Echo (not dot).

clever geyser
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I've migrated my setup to zigbee2mqtt and noticed that when light is powered and connects to the network it state is displayed as schrodinger light, neither on or off. Is it somehow possible to feth the status automatically? I failed to find this on the Internet.

fast sentinel
austere patio
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universal-silabs-flasher --device /dev/... flash --firmware firmware.gbl should work

fast sentinel
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worth backing up whatever is in there now?

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(thank you)

austere patio
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If you're using ZHA, backups are taken automatically

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I was testing this with the SkyConnect and I can't do anything to ever break a stick, even if you unplug it during flashing. The worst that will happen is that it'll be stuck in the bootloader, which the flashing tool handles.

fast sentinel
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nice - that is reassuring! i wont test it 😄

pale gorge
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Anyone ever faced issue installing Conbee 2 stick on HAOS? I connected it to the Rpi 4 which is running HAOS. ZHA integration is automatically prompted by integration discovery. I try to configure it, fails with below logs.

Couldn't start deCONZ = dresden elektronik deCONZ protocol: ConBee I/II, RaspBee I/II coordinator (attempt 3 of 3)
Error setting up entry ConBee II for zha

Exact same error as this thread: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-integration-not-starting-after-upgrade-firmware-of-conbee-2/490700/2

fast sentinel
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will the zigbee team announce whenever the 6.7 or 7 versions of the firmware will be recommended for ZHA use? just curious how that works, what announcements to look out for..

austere patio
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You can always downgrade if it doesn't

fast sentinel
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oooo so what do you think? go all the way (7)? or stick with 6.10?

austere patio
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Give 7 a try

fast sentinel
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7.0.2 or 7.1.1?

austere patio
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Biggest number 😆. I'm not really sure, I've yet to have any negative experiences with any of the firmwares.

fast sentinel
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you a lucky man! ok will go all the way, lets see 😮

austere patio
fast sentinel
austere patio
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A 3.0 cable turns into a 2.0 when it's plugged into a 2.0 port. It's specifically active USB 3.0 ports.

cobalt dew
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its the usb3 port itself from what I can read so a 500mm or 1000mm extension cable really does matter.

pale gorge
pale gorge
austere patio
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I usually use a three or five foot extender. Is it near any other 2.4GHz mesh networking equipment? Power supplies? Motherboard IO panels? Bluetooth? The Conbee is (sometimes annoyingly) sensitive so it just needs to be placed correctly.

pale gorge
spring smelt
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I’m trying to bind my inovelli blue switches to a zigbee group of hue bulbs

When I click the Bind Group button, ZHA just throws up a spinner on the button and hangs

I’m trying to tail the logfile but there’s so much noise in there that i’m not having any luck making sense of where things are hanging 😦

Any tips?

fast sentinel
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@austere patio getting some fun errors now after, trying to revert back to 6.10
2022-11-19 14:23:58 rktestbench bellows.ezsp.protocol[2217] WARNING Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY
2022-11-19 14:23:58 rktestbench bellows.ezsp.protocol[2217] WARNING Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_MULTICAST_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY
2022-11-19 14:23:59 rktestbench bellows.ezsp[2217] INFO NCP entered failed state. No application handler registered, ignoring...
Error: Failed to probe running application type
2022-11-19 14:24:03 rktestbench concurrent.futures[2217] ERROR exception calling callback for <Future at 0x7f6de52a2530 state=finished returned NoneType>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3.10/concurrent/futures/_base.py", line 342, in _invoke_callbacks
callback(self)
File "/usr/lib/python3.10/asyncio/futures.py", line 399, in _call_set_state
dest_loop.call_soon_threadsafe(_set_state, destination, source)
File "/usr/lib/python3.10/asyncio/base_events.py", line 795, in call_soon_threadsafe
self._check_closed()
File "/usr/lib/python3.10/asyncio/base_events.py", line 515, in _check_closed
raise RuntimeError('Event loop is closed')
RuntimeError: Event loop is closed

waxen nimbus
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what went wrong with 7? 😁

fast sentinel
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would not start

rapid dawnBOT
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@fast sentinel I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
fast sentinel
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should i be resetting the dongle when i do the firmware update?

pale gorge
austere patio
austere patio
fast sentinel
rapid dawnBOT
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@fast sentinel I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
austere patio
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Interesting. I'll have to pick up a Sonoff stick to try this out then, maybe they're using some chip with less memory.

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Install the unreleased version from the Git repo and try it once more: pip install --upgrade git+https://github.com/puddly/universal-silabs-flasher

fast sentinel
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wahoooooo that allowed me to flash. maybe 7.1.1 is too large for this SONOFF stick?

austere patio
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If you want to try it again, try with CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE set to 8 and try reducing other values that the firmware complains about when starting up 😆

fast sentinel
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i removed all those settings, should be whatever default.. only thing enabled now is source_routing: true

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but it wont start up anymore in ZHA. i tried to use 'migrate radio', then choose existing but: "Lost connection: SerialException('device reports readiness to read but returned no data (device disconnected or multiple access on port?)')"

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Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 1 of 3)

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Error setting up entry SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2 for zha

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/asyncio/tasks.py", line 456, in wait_for
return fut.result()
asyncio.exceptions.CancelledError

spring smelt
mellow geode
fast sentinel
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so under
ezsp_config:
CONFIG_SUPPORTED_NETWORKS: 2

?

mellow geode
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yeah, that should work

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bellows always tries to force that to 1 and that should normally work. However, the firmware is compiled with the options set to 2 and -- for whatever reason -- trying to set it to 1 on 7.x versions, crashes the dongle

fast sentinel
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so i am back on ncp-uart-sw_v6.10.3_115200.gbl

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all those errors are on 6.10.3_115200.. the param did not work.

to confirm.. i need to flash again the nvm_3initfile since i went back to 6.10 ?

mellow geode
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Setting CONFIG_SUPPORTED_NETWORKS to 2 is only required on 7.x firmware.

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not following though, what exact errors did you get on 6.x?

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If the dongle starts at all, you don't need the init file (and it won't help then). It's only needed if you flashed 7.x and downgrade back to 6.x

fast sentinel
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so i first flashed 7.x, which ZHA would not start.. before you mentioned the settings : CONFIG_SUPPORTED_NETWORKS: 2

i already had gone back to 6.10, and also ZHA would not start

mellow geode
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yeah, that's expected then. You'll need to open the dongle and hold the BL button. Then press the reset button briefly (still continue to hold the BL button). After a few seconds, you can also let go of the BL button.

The stick should stop "boot-looping" and now be in the bootloader mode where you can either flash 7.x firmware again or flash the "init file" (but make sure you have a network backup)

fast sentinel
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got it.. what do you suggest, 7x or 6.10?

hollow rover
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Hey, did anyone get the new Aqara c1 feeder to work? The Switch doesnt do anything but Identify works

mellow geode
fast sentinel
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ok will try 7 for kicks.. but when i boot up HA, what do I do? choose 'migrate' radio? or should it just start up?

mellow geode
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It should just start up if you flash back 7.x firmware, as the network info is still present
(make sure to set the supported networks parameter to 2 though)

fast sentinel
# mellow geode It should just start up if you flash back 7.x firmware, as the network info is s...

getting this when trying to go to 7x, or flash anything at all (6.10, or that init )
raph@rktestbench:~$ sudo universal-silabs-flasher --device /dev/ttyACM0 flash --firmware ncp-uart-sw_7.1.1.0_115200.gbl
2022-11-19 15:45:28 rktestbench universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[2940] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER
2022-11-19 15:45:31 rktestbench universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[2940] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC
2022-11-19 15:45:31 rktestbench universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[2940] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b':'): ValueError('Invalid flag')
2022-11-19 15:45:31 rktestbench universal_silabs_flasher.cpc[2940] WARNING Failed to parse buffer bytearray(b'\n'): ValueError('Invalid flag')

2022-11-19 15:45:35 rktestbench universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[2940] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP
Error: Failed to probe running application type
2022-11-19 15:45:40 rktestbench concurrent.futures[2940] ERROR exception calling callback for <Future at 0x7f8701881b10 state=finished returned NoneType>

mellow geode
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Is the stick currently in bootloader mode? (did you hold down the BL button + pressed the RESET button + waited 2 seconds + let go of the BL button)

fast sentinel
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yessir, the device comes up as "QinHeng USB Single Serial " instead of the full name (SONOFF BLABLA)

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i'll try again

mellow geode
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If puddly's doesn't work, one of the above should

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(also, what OS are you on?)

fast sentinel
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im using ubuntu desktop 22 (as a vm)

tropic depot
fast sentinel
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yikes:
sudo silabs-flasher --device /dev/ttyACM0 flash --firmware ncp-uart-sw_7.1.1.0_115200.gbl
Trying to connect using EZSP...
Failed communicating using EZSP, assuming we are in bootloader.
Failed to launch the bootloader. Bootloader banner did not appear.

mellow geode
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is there a delay between the last two lines? try holding the BL button + press reset once, so the bootloader message appears again (and the flasher hopefully recognizes it)

fast sentinel
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oh man my heart skipped lol
Firmware update [#######-----------------------------] 19%

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well that's just awesome, started right up

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thank you so much for your time

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i am seeing 328 occurrences of this:
[0x2663:11:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [ControllerException('duplicate 117 TSN'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]
[0xE06A:11:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]
[0xC4D6:11:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]
[0xC4D6:11:0x0300]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [TimeoutError(), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]
[0x2663:11:0x0008]: async_initialize: all attempts have failed: [ControllerException('duplicate 119 TSN'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>'), DeliveryError('Failed to deliver message: <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>')]

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but things are responding, i'll wait for the network to rebuild

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where's the tip jar? 😄

mellow geode
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the duplicate TSN stuff should be fixed soon-ish. The DELIVERY_FAILED just means the radio couldn't deliver the message properly.

fast sentinel
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oh great to know! safe to ignore for the time being then?

mellow geode
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how big is your network?

austere patio
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Those are a known issue and will only affect startup

fast sentinel
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i can ignore this? it's strange since i have not specified these parameters:
Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_MULTICAST_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY
Couldn't set EzspConfigId.CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE=16 configuration value: EzspStatus.ERROR_OUT_OF_MEMORY

austere patio
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There are defaults that are chosen. Try changing them to half in your config.

waxen cargo
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Hey puddly, can you help me to fix my yellow zigbee, I keep getting the error: ➜ silabs-firmware git:(main) universal-silabs-flasher --device /dev/ttyAMA1 --baudrate 115200 --bootloader-baudrate 115200 \

flash --allow-cross-flashing --firmware EmberZNet/NabuCasa_EZSP_v6.9.2.0_PA32_ncp-uart-hw_115200.gbl

2022-11-19 22:20:13 a0d7b954-ssh universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[803] INFO Probing ApplicationType.GECKO_BOOTLOADER
2022-11-19 22:20:15 a0d7b954-ssh universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[803] INFO Probing ApplicationType.CPC
2022-11-19 22:20:19 a0d7b954-ssh universal_silabs_flasher.flasher[803] INFO Probing ApplicationType.EZSP
Error: Failed to probe running application type

austere patio
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It seems the Yellow's Zigbee radio can sometimes lock up (when trying to flash) and needs a GPIO reset

mellow geode
waxen cargo
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ok, i try

molten linden
waxen cargo
austere patio
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Sent you a DM

molten linden
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bellows -d /dev/ttyAMA1 -b 115200 config -a

mellow geode
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https://dpaste.org/7WhH2/raw is likely the output you'll get with 7.1.1
of those parameters, you only need to set the following in your config:

  • CONFIG_MULTICAST_TABLE_SIZE to 8
  • CONFIG_ADDRESS_TABLE_SIZE to 8
  • CONFIG_SUPPORTED_NETWORKS to 2
  • CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE to 128 (you don't need to do this, as the default is lower, but you probably want to set this to 128)
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all others basically match the default (or bellows "doesn't set them/so uses what the firmware uses")

fast sentinel
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thank you so much, that removed any warnings

CONFIG_SOURCE_ROUTE_TABLE_SIZE - does this mean the max amount of devices?

violet magnet
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bizarre binding problem:
I run ZHA, I have a group with a Leviton light switch (on/off, no dimmer) and four Hue bulbs. I also have a Hue RWL020 remote. When I bind the remote to the group (whether I bind both the OnOff cluster or both OnOff and LevelControl), the bulbs turn on and off perfectly but the light switch will only turn on, not off.

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Not sure where to start poking at the problem? I've tried unbinding and rebinding a few times now.

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Or would life be better if I just gave up, rebound the remote to the coordinator, and stuck with automations?

molten linden
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My guess would be fw issue with the Leviton

violet magnet
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at least it makes me feel better about returning the two Leviton switches I hadn't installed yet and buying a bunch of Inovelli Blues...

molten linden
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they don't as far as I know, but the fact they are doing works with HA for z-wave lends some hope that it will come at somepoint

violet magnet
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bleah, yea, I just put it back over to triggered automations

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not great, but if it turns out to be a reliability problem I'll just shove an Inovelli switch in there instead

austere patio
violet magnet
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(and possibly swap out the remote since it seems like the first-gen Hue remotes are known for jank anyway)

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lol, tried a different brand remote from elsewhere in the house out of curiosity

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and it worked perfectly

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so it seems to be that first-gen Philips remote and not the Leviton switch

waxen nimbus
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Second-gen hue remotes are still jank via a hue hub, but fine over zha. Haven't bound them, tho

violet magnet
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they also have a single power button, brightness up/down, and a mystery button, though, right?

quick hare
quick hare
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I honestly prefer the new remotes, their quality is much better and the toggle is nicer than On / Off.

quick hare
mellow geode
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So sometimes, you have to press the on/off button twice

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It’s not an issue when using the Hue Bridge, as dimmers joined to those never do direct binding

quick hare
mellow geode
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Same issue on the Smart Button btw

quick hare
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Honestly they should have made the thing toggle. Is that a possible command?

mellow geode
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Yes

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I think there are some reasons why it’s like that though (edit: meh, I’m unsure)

quick hare
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haha

waxen nimbus
jade mirage
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anyone home? trying to pass conbee 2 to docker from a mac mini

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using this docker cmd:

docker run -d \
  --name HomeAssistant \
  -p 8123:8123 \
  --privileged \
  --restart=unless-stopped \
  -e TZ=America/Chicago \
  --device /dev/tty.usbmodemDE24332351 \
  -v /Users/efelton/config:/config \
  -v /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro \
  ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
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but ZHA does not see it

quick hare
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I wish you could bind like 30 lights to a remote to control them if HA goes down. 😄

molten linden
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Put all the lights in a group and bind the remote to the group

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Not that I would do it 😂

grim igloo
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but-you-could

quick hare
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Oh wait, but where does the group logic reside? You don’t need a coordinator for groups?

molten linden
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Groups are stored on the devices they know what groups they are in.

quick hare
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Got it. They then reply to their appropriate broadcast?

molten linden
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yep

austere patio
jade mirage
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guves failed to connect

austere patio
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What radio type do you select?

jade mirage
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deconz

austere patio
pulsar lake
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I have a couple of philips motion sensors; both the same model. one was added to ZHA a while ago, and one today. The one today has extra options on the device page (Hue Motion sensitivity and led trigger notification), and the battery % actually works! - is there a way to get the same options on the other sensor (both are SML002).

cerulean axle
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I have a few zigbee switches connected via Z2M, which have been working great. Suddenly they are not working, and the entity state is "Restored". In the Z2M log the button pushes are working fine, but in HA it's broken - nothing on "action" nor on MQTT. Anyone got an idea on how to remedy this?

jaunty maple
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Anyone know if I can move a zigbee network from a homey pro to zigbee2mqtt without having to rebuild it all?

sour shadow
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Does the Homey have a Zigbee stick you can remove?

soft sage
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is this an appropriate place to ask for help when a zigbee device is not pairing/joining properly? I'm a noob, so it's my first try and my first sensor.

sour shadow
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YEs

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Though answer the question in the channel topic

soft sage
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zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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How far from the coordinator is the sensor?

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Also, which coordinator are you using?

soft sage
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SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus-E

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right next to it when I tried the first time, and now in the next room

sour shadow
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That's ... not a great choice of coordinator for Zigbee2MQTT

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For ZHA, sure, but not Z2M

soft sage
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It's not?

sour shadow
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That's what I said

soft sage
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Hmmm, why is that?

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bad performance, or buggy?

sour shadow
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Because support is still experimental

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The adapters below are experimental, don't use these if you want a stable setup.

soft sage
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ok - that sucks. I'm not realistically able to get any new gear for quite some time

sour shadow
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Then consider switching to ZHA

near echo
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Anyway, when you try to pair the device, does the logs in z2m page show something with respect to that device?

sour shadow
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Also:

  1. Did you leave it at the default channel of 11, or pick one that's clear of WiFi?
  2. Did you put it on a USB extension cable?
soft sage
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  1. I was not aware I had the option of changing the channel
  2. yes
sour shadow
near echo
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In the z2m page, is the permit join enabled?

sour shadow
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The default channel of 11 is usually a bad choice

soft sage
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It does pair after a few attempt

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but no data is available, aside from signal quality

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no battery/humidity/temp

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and this line stands out in the log: > Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-11-20 13:01:40: Configure failed: Error: Bind 0x00124b00251d224b/1 msTemperatureMeasurement from '0x84b4dbfffecc16b2/1' failed (Route error)

sour shadow
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You've got an error in the middle of that, it's not good

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Also, those sensors have a track record of being ... not awesome. It's pretty common for them to stop reporting

soft sage
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What would switching to ZHA entail? is that a different option to Z2M ?

sour shadow
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It won't help with the sensors being crappy, but it will help with the coordinator

soft sage
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ok. So basically un-install the zigbee2mqtt add-on, and install a ZHA add-on?

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I'll give it a shot 🙂

sour shadow
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Well, ZHA isn't an add-on, but yes

soft sage
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oh?

sour shadow
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See the link

near echo
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Zha is integral part of HA

rapid dawnBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

soft sage
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I'll read up and give it a try

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but uninstalling the z2m add-on is the first step, right?

near echo
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Yep

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Although may not be required, but do restart HA, just to ensure device is not busy

soft sage
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ok. The first step show in the documentation says "From the Home Assistant front page go to Configuration and then select Integrations from the list."

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and I feel a bit dumb not seeing where "Configuration" is on the page 😐

rapid dawnBOT
soft sage
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If I google screenshots I can see "Configuration" as a left-side tab. But it's missing in my interface

near echo
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Settings -> Devices & Services . Click Add integration and type zigbee

sour shadow
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Click the link the bot posted

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configuration Configuration got renamed configuration Settings a while back

soft sage
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I'm not on the same network as the home setup with my discord browser tab. But I found the settings now I think. I'll see what happens 🙂

still swallow
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I have a lot of projects on hand, and I have a few hurdles googling i was hoping maybe someone can help me out with.
I already have a variety of Z-wave and Zigbee devices in my home with a Futurehome smarthub.
I want to transition completly to homeassistant due to local handling and wider device support, futurehome still isnt fully working properly with most of the devices. Thermostats show up 3 times etc.

I have HA in a VM on my server, and it is talking to the Futurehome hub via their API and an Add-on - but it's clunky and doesnt support all devices or commands.

What different categories of Z-wave/Zigbee adapters are there? I though i had to use USB-Adapter in my server, but.. Are there Z-wave/Zigbee "Hub"'s that you connect directly to the router, which my server/HA can access and fully access/manage as if it was a physically attatched like a USB adapter?

Hope my question makes sense.
I'm in Norway.

sour shadow
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You can use a CC2652 based coordinator with either Zigbee2MQTT or ZHA

still swallow
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Ah i see! So its called a coordinator. I'll read more on those devices, and Z2MQTT/ZHA now, thanks:)

sour shadow
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The pinned messages have some good information

mellow geode
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Reconfiguring might work but idk in this case

tight belfry
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Qnect SH-ZS01, anyone tried this temp sensor in HA?

fast sentinel
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happy sunday! looking for some insight.. i upgraded my coordinator (SONOFF ZPDongle-E) firmware to 7.1.1 yesterday, been working well so far but having a very weird issue . If i remove a bad device (ie: unresponsive motion sensor), then re-pair it, it does not create a new unique device; it seems to re-use whatever device/entity names it had before, and never updates data for the device even though check in time updates.. example - unresponsive motion sensor stuck motion "ON"; i remove it, then re-pair to network, the motion value is still stuck on "ON" and never goes off (tape covering sensor, def no motion). only time i was able to re-pair a motion sensor and it worked, the device was detected as 'unk unk vendor' - i added it this way just to test and it worked..

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something to do with unique ID's? should i be purging devices/entities data somewhere other than 'remove device' ?

tropic depot
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how are you removing the device?

tropic depot
fast sentinel
fast sentinel
tropic depot
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7.x is still kinda screwy

fast sentinel
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yeah i am thinking of flying back to 6.10

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i cant just go back by flashing directly right? i need to flash something to clear nvram first?

fast sentinel
tropic depot
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6.10 has been great

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I think I’m on 6.10.3

fast sentinel
tropic depot
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I have one from tube

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Compiled for a specific device

lapis gyro
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Any idea why my light(s) wont toggle on or off? They were working after initial setup then they just stopped working. Brightness still works, same with color. Just no toggle functionality

sour shadow
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Do they work in the Z2M dashboard?

lapis gyro
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Everything but the on/off toggle works

sour shadow
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And that's in the Z2M dashboard?

lapis gyro
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yes

sour shadow
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Check the log file for Z2M

lapis gyro
# 
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 17:57:40: Saving state to file /config/zigbee2mqtt/state.json
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:01:10: Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light/set' with data '{"state":"OFF"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:01:10: Publishing 'set' 'state' to 'Liams Room Light'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-20 18:01:10: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light', payload '{"brightness":61,"color":{"h":32,"hue":32,"s":82,"saturation":82,"x":0.4599,"y":0.4106},"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":370,"linkquality":134,"state":"OFF"}```
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Am I missing something? Looks like it's saying it's off when it isn't?

sour shadow
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Try turning it off, then turning it on

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See what you get in the log

lapis gyro
# 
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:04:17: Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light/set' with data '{"state":"OFF"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:04:17: Publishing 'set' 'state' to 'Liams Room Light'
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-20 18:04:17: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light', payload '{"brightness":61,"color":{"h":32,"hue":32,"s":82,"saturation":82,"x":0.4599,"y":0.4106},"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":370,"linkquality":138,"state":"OFF"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:04:18: Received MQTT message on 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light/set' with data '{"state":"ON"}'
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:04:18: Publishing 'set' 'state' to 'Liams Room Light'
Zigbee2MQTT:debug 2022-11-20 18:04:18: Received Zigbee message from 'Liams Room Light', type 'readResponse', cluster 'genLevelCtrl', data '{}' from endpoint 1 with groupID 0
Zigbee2MQTT:info  2022-11-20 18:04:18: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/Liams Room Light', payload '{"brightness":61,"color":{"h":32,"hue":32,"s":82,"saturation":82,"x":0.4599,"y":0.4106},"color_mode":"color_temp","color_temp":370,"linkquality":138,"state":"ON"}'```
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Seems its broken in some way

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Setting it to off returns on?

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Unless i'm understanding it wrong?

sour shadow
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Have you tried power cycling the bulb?

lapis gyro
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yeah

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i left it for a few mins off

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i can try longer?

sour shadow
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Won't make any difference

lapis gyro
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didnt think so

austere patio
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The light seems like it's turning on when you set its color

sour shadow
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Which would be typical

austere patio
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Since in the payload you're setting both the state, the brightness, and the color

lapis gyro
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I'm only pressing the on/off switch 🤷‍♂️

lapis gyro
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If you have any ideas please ping me

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Even creating a plugin to send only state off doesn't work so i'm not sure