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sour shadow
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Well, it does... you can (try to) pick a channel with the least interference

half valley
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try zha, with deconz i also had the same problems

sour shadow
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the ConBee is also one of the most sensitive to interference

vernal knoll
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OK gotcha. I also changed the Zigbee channel to 25, hopefully that'll help.

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I'll look into zha

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Hm. The internets suggested my devices should all show back up on the new channel but it's been 10 minutes and nothing yet... sigh

tropic depot
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cycle mains powered devices… if that doesn’t help repairing them will 😬

vernal knoll
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They're all on batteries.

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Aqara door & motion sensors, Ikea switches, Ikea bulbs.

twin gazelle
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Anyone know how to solve "Error: Permission denied, cannot open /dev/ttyACM0" when running z2m in docker? I'm passing in -u $(id -u <username>):$(getent group docker | cut -d: -f3) --group-add dialout in the docker run command to no avail and the username i'm passing in the id of on the host has the dialout group added

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For those in future looking for solution do this on the host KERNEL=="ttyUSB[0-9]*", TAG+="udev-acl", TAG+="uaccess" >> /etc/udev/rules.d/60-extra-acl.rules and so you can get it working without a reboot sudo chmod a+rw /dev/ttyUSB0

half valley
silent flower
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I flashed z-stack-firmware version RB instead of R to my ZZH, now it doesn't work. Can it be fixed somehow?

lilac wharf
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some (most?) devices scan for the same panID on other zigbee channels if it can't connect on the previous channel anymore

vernal knoll
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Yeah the Ikea buttons repaired on their own. The bulbs and Aqara motion sensors I manually repaired. Have not checked the door sensors yet.

vernal knoll
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Door sensors I also just manually re-paired.

molten linden
silent flower
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Can't connect at all for flashing

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Connecting to target...
ERROR: Timeout waiting for ACK/NACK after 'Synch (0x55 0x55)'

molten linden
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are you hold DIO 13 low at boot? that's the BSL pin on the RB FW. it may not be trivial as you may need to find the pin on the radio chip and the contact may be very small.

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actually luckily the zzh! uses 13 too, so it should go into BSL. At least with the modules I use if wrong FW is flashed we've been able to reflash

snow trellis
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Is it possible to add 1 zigbee coordinator to ha AND another app at the same time?

molten linden
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no, only one app can talk to a coordinator over serial at a time

snow trellis
whole thunder
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Should this be reported as an error?

mellow geode
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"Its pairing but not included into the network"
Does ZHA not create a device in HA at all?

whole thunder
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Device is created but wo any controls and no connection to network.

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royal houndBOT
restive thunder
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is anyone using the xfinity door sensors with ZHA? I have them connected and working except that battery percentage shows unknown. any ideas?

atomic notch
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Hi there, currently try to use Zigbee devices (Philips Hue and IKEA Tradfri) with HA. After pairing the devices with HA, the remote does not longer work with the paired devices. Am I correct there is no way to link both HA and remote with each device (bulb)?

restive thunder
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can you pair the remote to HA?

atomic notch
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I assume so

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currently triing

grim igloo
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you pair the remote to hass

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then you program the remote with hass via automations

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you cant just tell it to pair to a bulb and it work like it did with hue bridge out of the box

atomic notch
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so the approach would be linking remot to HASS and create automation there?! Means if HASS is not working, I will not be able to control device with remote, correct?

tropic depot
grim igloo
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are you using zha or zigbee2mqtt

atomic notch
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zigbee2mqtt

grim igloo
atomic notch
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brilliant! Appears like it es exactly what I was looking for... any downside for this approach?

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Sorry stubid question... will first check the docs

grim igloo
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idk never done it

atomic notch
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Thanks alot!

grim igloo
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my zigbee network doesnt go down lol

atomic notch
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😄

grim igloo
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that's why we're all here using zha or z2m

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cuz hue bridge and other hubs failed us in some way and we want local control and a strong mesh

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that blueprint might be of use to you

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i imported it yesterday but havent played with it yet

restive thunder
plucky badger
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What is a good thermostat, to use with home automation?

grim igloo
grim igloo
plucky badger
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I don't have one at all.
well I have the google nest

plucky badger
twin gazelle
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Has anyone used unix sockets to connect z2m to mosquitto?

grim igloo
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I have an ecobee and like it. I think it uses proprietary zwave firmware to talk to its sensors but uses cloud to integrate with home assistant. It can also pair locally to hass via HomeKit protocol

plucky badger
grim igloo
mellow geode
raw lynx
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In the ZigbeeHA integration, anyone know how to adjust settings on devices? like on motion sensors - senitivity. or like wake times etc

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or does ZHA not support settings on devices

molten linden
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For some you will see them on the device config page. If not and the device supports them you will need to use the manage clusters.

raw lynx
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looks like none of my devices support them weeew

molten linden
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Here’s the newer aqara motion sensor’s for example

raw lynx
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weird that none of my devices have any configuration

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like you'd think a vibration sensor, or a motion sensor

molten linden
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It all do.

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They will generally need code to work. Otherwise you use the cluster management.

raw lynx
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would this be something where zb2mqtt would help due to it's larger database?

molten linden
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I can’t answer that.

ripe wigeon
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I guess I can ask it here, since I don't see any other topics for it, but what do your hue lights use when they're off (so powered and connected to zha/z2m/etc, but not turned on)?

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I'm getting like 3W for a hue ambiance 1100lm light when it's off

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Only tested 2 lights so far though, but both have the same issue, philips their site claims max 0.5W, I'm reading 6x more

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When I first tested I read almost 8x more (3.75W, instead of max 0.5W they advertise)

mellow geode
ripe wigeon
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A multimeter

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2 actually, one for voltage one for mA

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multimeter is 60Eur so not a cheap one

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Oh I forgot no images lol

mellow geode
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Links are fine

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I measure multiple Hue bulbs in the past. Also the new 1100lm (White Ambiance and) Color bulbs and they consumed well under a watt

ripe wigeon
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it's weird, I mean if they all do it I'll have to get them fixed somehow

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or just throw all hue out xD

mellow geode
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I don’t think the bulbs are broken

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Or that they are actually consuming 3W when off

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They’d get noticeable hot

Try with a different meter or a wall plug that’s accurate.

ripe wigeon
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I mean when I turn it on to 1% brightness only 1mA gets added

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2*

mellow geode
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And 100%?

ripe wigeon
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that goes up to 9W

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they're rated for max 8W according to philips

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but that doesn't matter for me, really it's the standby usage

mellow geode
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Yeah that’s somewhat normal. I’ve also measured standby usage on many of my smart bulbs and Hues have basically always had the lowest

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I‘m pretty certain your measuring equipment can’t properly measure these low currents

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Or maybe it has something to do with capacitive load (?) but no idea about that

ripe wigeon
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it should be able to go down to µA even

mellow geode
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I‘d only trust expensive/Fluke multimeters for accurately measuring very low currents

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If I were you, I’d just pick up a cheap wall power meter plug that’s known to be somewhat accurate and test again (or buy another (expensive) multimeter)

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But I‘m certain that the Hue bulbs don’t use 3W when idle

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(Also make sure they’re not doing a firmware update or whatever I guess)

ripe wigeon
mellow geode
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Well, I‘m not saying that. But either your test setup or multi meter is faulty

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And wall plugs could measure the actual energy consumed over multiple hours in standby (and not only the current power)

ripe wigeon
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test setup is just like how you'd measure amps, and multimeter, don't think is faulty it used to measure my ikea led strip just fine

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2W I think it was

ripe wigeon
mellow geode
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That’s why I mentioned to try a different test setup (wall plug instead of multimeter)

ripe wigeon
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I have one laying around, somewhere but I doubt it's accurate at all xD

mellow geode
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Yeah, just try to see what it gives you as a reading

ripe wigeon
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I'll have to find it first too 😛

mellow geode
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You’ve tried 2 bulbs and measured 3W consumption, the internet (manufacturer + tests) (and I) are saying they consume less than one watt. But you’ve only tried to measure it with one multimeter/test setup.
So the chance of both your bulbs being faulty and consuming the same high wattage in standby is very low compared to the one that something with your test setup (e.g. multi meter) is wrong.

So testing it with a wall plug is at least a second data source

ripe wigeon
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I mean standby was a bit different for the 800lm one

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2.11W

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instead of 3

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but still well over what they say is the max rating

mellow geode
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Yeah. The actual difference between the bulbs is likely smaller too

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Are the 800lm bulbs also latest gen bulbs? (Updated packaging +. Bluetooth/Zigbee)

ripe wigeon
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yes

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both are bt/zigbee

mellow geode
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Yeah, those consume under 0.5W when idle. IIRC only the first and second gen bulbs (the glass + metal ones) had a slightly higher consumption (a bit more than 0.5W) but don’t quote me on this

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Just did some research and it seems like your test setup is indeed inaccurate at least because you’re not taking the power factor into account. It’s apparently only 0.10 on Hue bulbs

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So a "cheap" power meter plug should actually give you better results

ripe wigeon
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I only know my smart plugs that have the function just return 0 on this low wattage

mellow geode
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Yeah likely because the consumption is under one watt then

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Above 20% to 30%, the consumption should jump to roughly 1W (2700K/366/warm white)

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(The brightness/power scale is non-linear)

ripe wigeon
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it was 2W, but it's not meant to measure power I guess

ancient hound
ripe wigeon
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I'll look around tomorrow and see if I find it somewhere, if I don't it might take longer to return with a result until I come across it by accident xD

mellow geode
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One last thing, the power consumption of your IKEA strip and the Hue bulb at higher brightness levels is likely more accurate because the power factor is way better then.
If it’s about 0.10 and your measurements don’t take that into account (only measure apparent power), perhaps you could calculate the active power consumption by just dividing your results by ten. So 3.45W ≈ 0.345W but idk if this is how the calculations work. (a power plug will know how they work though lol)

ripe wigeon
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ikea strip is just on and off 😛

mellow geode
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Yeah but the power supply is likely using a different design than the Hue bulb. (Perhaps the Hue bulb is just a simple capacitive dropper hence the low power factor at standby but idk. I guess also re-meassure your IKEA strip when you have a power meter heh)

ripe wigeon
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Will do that :D, but let's find the meter first xD it might be difficult to find

lean belfry
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@livid harbori found a meanwell hlg-120h

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24v

livid harbor
lean belfry
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it actually looks nice

livid harbor
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We sell them at my workplace for led lightings and we usually never have problems with hlg series

lean belfry
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i ordered the 120w one

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it should be way beyond my need

livid harbor
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Is it hlg-120h-24a?

lean belfry
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HLG-120H-24B

livid harbor
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Ohh you probably dont need the 1-10v connection

lean belfry
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yeah

livid harbor
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The A version has potentiometers instead of 1-10v

lean belfry
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will be fun to install for sure

livid harbor
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Just put wago clamps on the 1-10v

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If those wires touch themself your stripe will dim down 😂

lean belfry
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i need to do some electricial work

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need to put in some

livid harbor
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Good luck 🤞

lean belfry
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yeah might not be able to do it 😄

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its a weird switch setup

livid harbor
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Well if you dont feel comfortable better hire a professional 😅😅

lean belfry
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might do that

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i have 2 light fixtures that are not smart

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i just need the on off function

livid harbor
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I did not touch my wall switches yet aswell using ikea and sunricher remotes mostly to control my lights

lean belfry
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90% of my lights is smart

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the hallway has g9 bulbs

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hence why i cant make them smart

twin gazelle
lean belfry
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that could work

livid harbor
lean belfry
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oh? will do that

livid harbor
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Not that you would need to check that but i think its cool that its possible

lean belfry
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waiting for the controller to arrive

ivory trail
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Are there any LED strip controllers which would allow me to physically connect a capacitative button to dim/toggle the LEDs? Ideally they would support tunable white.

twin gazelle
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Has anyone got z2m and mosquitto talking via unix sockets?

sour shadow
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I don't see any sign in the docs that it's supported

twin gazelle
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Yeah i've not found any reference to it

final wasp
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Hello guys,
Today I had a power outage and HASS is now not able to communicate with my lights. It says Paulmann Licht 500.47 (1) became unavailable (for each light). Where am I able to retrieve more information to debug? I also see

[zigpy.device] [0xf7ad] Delivery error for seq # 0x71, on endpoint id 1 cluster 0x0000: message send failure

in my logs

austere patio
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What Zigbee stick are you using?

final wasp
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conbee2

austere patio
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Yep, the dreaded "Conbee doesn't work after rebooting" issue. How long after the reboot has it been?

final wasp
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Outage occurred about 3,5 hours ago. I did several restarts to ensure that it's not some weird one-time startup issue after a forceful shutdown.

austere patio
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Are you able to receive sensor updates?

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Is your Conbee on a USB extension cable?

violet dagger
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Did you try unplugging the stick?

final wasp
austere patio
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Go for it

final wasp
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I re-plugged it. HASS still shows the same information. What else can I do?

austere patio
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Are you able to receive sensor updates, even though your lights don't work?

final wasp
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Originally, I planned to move it to another Rasperry Pi anways, which is much closer to the ZigBee devices. Should I do that now?

final wasp
austere patio
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I mean over Zigbee. Do you have any door sensors, temp/humidity sensors, etc. on your Zigbee network?

final wasp
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No, sadly not

austere patio
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Can you try toggling one of your lights at the switch?

final wasp
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Switches on the auto-generated Overview page are greyed out and not clickable

austere patio
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The power switch

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Like physically reboot the light

final wasp
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Oh yea

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That just fixed it 🤦‍♂️

austere patio
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What kind of light is it?

final wasp
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For some reason, Shelly decided to go to the "off" state after the outage

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Light is Paulmann ZigBee Coin LED and Switches are Shelly 1 & 2's. I feel very stupid now 😂 . Thank you for your help

tepid gorge
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Hi! New Zigbee setup, ZHA. Paired a lightbulb and a motion sensor. What steps do I need to take in order for the the light to turn on for 5 minutes if a motion is detected?

sour shadow
odd mango
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hi. We had a blackout, and after boot up my zigbee network became unusable. It kinda works, sometimes it responds, but mostly is unresponsive. Any idea what happened or how to diagnose?

austere patio
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What Zigbee integration and USB stick are you using?

odd mango
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zha, sonoff stick

tepid gorge
austere patio
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ZHA exposes lights the same way every other integration does, you generally don't need to touch clusters directly

austere patio
odd mango
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there was a second blackout, nothing changed after second boot

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other devices fail to receive commands as well, like relays

austere patio
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If they all rebooted at the same time, perhaps that caused routing problems

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There's not much else you can do, routing is handled by devices and firmware

odd mango
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or they receive the command after 10 seconds sometimes

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any way to debug routing?

austere patio
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Not really. You ask the radio to send a packet, it responds with "no route found". There is a lot of retrying with various re-routing techniques in the library that communicates with your stick, the last of which is a manual route using the last-known packet path. If that fails, something is not routing properly on your network.

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I would suggest rebooting your routers one by one, it may help

vocal cradle
austere patio
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Don't buy the CC2531

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But yes, if you're just going to be sticking some sensors in a room, you'd need just a Zigbee coordinator. Zigbee routers are usually any device that's always powered, like a light bulb. You generally don't need to buy dedicated router devices.

vocal cradle
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Is the CC2531 unreliable? if so, what would you recommend?

royal houndBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
odd mango
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those idiots are just playing at distribution station

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anyway I have re-powered every router and there is no change 😦

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is there any way to rebuild the network?

austere patio
tropic depot
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maybe wait a bit to see if the power situation stabalizes

peak solstice
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Not listed actions in zogbeetoMQTT

tropic depot
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otherwise you will be chasing this for a while

sour shadow
peak solstice
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good idea i will check it

tropic depot
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@odd mango another thing you can try is go to the visualization and refresh topology... then wait ~10 mins

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that should attempt to hit every router on the network

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it may help recover routes to devices faster

odd mango
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hm, will try

peak solstice
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i'm new with Zigbee2MQTT... are these actions listed in the programm by itselve?

sour shadow
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I'm not sure what you mean

peak solstice
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when i check more informations from the device

sour shadow
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You could find it in the source, probably

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But the docs are more useful in that regard

peak solstice
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in Z2M Dashboard is nothing like that.

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u mean yaml docs

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?

sour shadow
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Yes

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The source would be the source code, not the UI

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You can use that in a state trigger in your automation

peak solstice
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nope they are not listed. or not there where i searched

sour shadow
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Stop looking at the device trigger

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That's not what I'm talking about

peak solstice
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but all actions are listed in automations in device trigger

sour shadow
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You said some were missing

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Which is where this started

peak solstice
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yeah. now it's solved

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but i search for an listing of all triggers from a device. but its only shown in automations>triggers

sour shadow
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Ok?

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That's exactly where I'd expect to find them listed

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That's the only place they're relevant at the end of the day

oak lark
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recommendations for zigbee window coverings?

peak solstice
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cheepest on amazon + Aqara blind roller

peak solstice
oak lark
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I have zigbee support thanks

hollow sierra
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Good quality, zigbee support (matter coming in 2022), custom fit

hollow sierra
vocal cradle
sour shadow
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Sonoff's sensors seem to be generally "not awesome"

vocal cradle
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Ah thats a shame

sour shadow
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I've seen a lot of reports of them falling off the mesh, or stopping responding

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Buy Aqara

raw lynx
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on zigbeeHA, does anyone know how to get the additional sensors in an air quality sensor to show up?

i bought a smart air house keeper but i'm only seeing the sensor for the VOC sensor.

it's using the zhaquirks.tuya.air.ts0601_air_quality.TuyaCO2SensorGPP which appears to have the ( TuyaAirQualityCO2,
TuyaAirQualityFormaldehyde,
TuyaAirQualityHumidity,
TuyaAirQualityTemperature,
TuyaAirQualityVOC,
TuyaCO2ManufCluster,)

but they don't seem to be appearing, only the VOC

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god i hope the code bot doesn't kill me

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it appears when i go under manage clusters > tuya airquality CO2 that the CO2 sesnor is showing a measured value too

tropic depot
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restart HA

raw lynx
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rog

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wish i could post photos here, i remember the good ole times

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oh shit that brought the sensors up! thankyou!

royal houndBOT
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Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
raw lynx
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....interesting take...not sure i agree with it but okay

grim igloo
raw lynx
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i forgot this is a reddit discord XD we deal in ABSOLUTES

molten linden
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heads up that that sensor sends updates for each sensor like once a second or 2. it creates a lot of traffic.

raw lynx
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oh sheesh, it hasn't seemed to cause too much issue so far but i'll keep an eye on it.

another question, is it possible to invert the indication state of a zigbee device?

i have zigbee curtain movers and they display open when closed / closed when open etc.

tropic depot
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Yes, I’m working on that for the Aqara motors

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It’s a standard attribute write

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Manage clusters -> pick window covering

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In the attribute field pick mode

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In the value field put a 1 (not the manufacturer override field)

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write attribute

raw lynx
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Is this like zwave where you have to wake the battery device for it to write? Cuz I switched it 1 and hit write but it still seems to be displaying the wrong state

odd mango
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g'day. I'm back with yesterday's problem. My zigbee network crashed after a blackout. Nothing works, or very barely works, with delays of 10 seconds and more.

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I have tried to "reset" the network by switching off the coordinator for an hour.

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Tried to wait for it to heal overnight

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tried to poweroff all routers

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tried to "refresh topology" in visualization map

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the map still shows all the connections

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I use zha with sonoff stick.

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what else can I do?

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my whole house is crippled, no lights and no heating!

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I guess there should not be so mush of red??

lean echo
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Hi everyone!
I've been using 2 Frient motion sensors (https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MOSZB-140.html#develco-moszb-140) successfully with Z2M for about 6 months now, but suddenly yesterday I started yo see both get stuck on detected motion.
After looking around I decided to remove one of them and pair it again. Now motion, battery and tamper works, but it reports lux and temperature as null.
I didn't try with the other one as it still reports successfully lux and I'm heavily using that in my automations.
Does anyone know what can I do to fix this?

sour shadow
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Did you upgrade Z2M?

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1.28 changed the handler for that device, adding some new features which require a re-interview

lean echo
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Yes, I have the 1.28-01. Actually I found interesting that now it reports battery % so probably that's why

sour shadow
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Yeah, 1.28 changed things for it

lean echo
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After re interview it is when it stopped reporting lux and temp, everything else looks fine

sour shadow
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I've seen a few issues open about it, and I've got some odd behaviour myself

lean echo
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So I guess my best option is to try to find something about this in Z2M and if nothing report it, right?

sour shadow
lean echo
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Yep, looks like that's the issue I have too

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How can I downgrade it? I have Z2M installed as an addon

sour shadow
lean echo
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ok, I'll give it a try... looks like after restarting the addon, the other sensor is working fine now 🤔

pine swan
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Does anyone know of a company that sells Zigbee corn bulbs please? I have a few fittings with restricted space. They will only take candle bulbs and the Ikea candles just aren't bright enough to get the job done

raw lynx
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check ali express they always got some weird zigbee shit

lilac wharf
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That message in combination with your avatar made me laugh

soft plover
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I currently have zigbee MOES radiator thermostats integrated into the Home Assistant and would like to control them with weekly profiles in HA. Currently, I do not have a TUYA zigbee Bridge and I am not using the TUYA Smart App. How can I create weekly profiles for the radiator thermostats in HA?

fleet lodge
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Anyone have a good resource on how MATTER and Zigbee coexist?

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I just read a HackerNews post and my brain turned into scrambled eggs

graceful elm
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I was wondering the same thing, was going to go look for details tonight, not really excited about everything being ip based going forward

austere patio
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Protocol-wise, they don't. Matter supports bridges that can re-expose Zigbee devices as Matter devices, which is what IKEA, Aqara, etc. are going to be pushing to either their current or to newer hubs.

molten linden
brave nacelle
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anyone else experience with a zigbee thermostat that you can adjust the temp, but can't change the mode from HA?

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e.g.: going from cold, to heat

raw lynx
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pro tip - Zigbee temp sensors in your fridge / freezer are MINNNNNNTTTT

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never trusted that front panel display and this helped confirm it

tropic depot
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Word of advice. Pay attention when you place warm food in the fridge near the sensor

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You may give yourself unnecessary panic attacks

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😂

grim igloo
wicked sparrow
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Excuse me, I'm a noob in HA.
I wanna flash sonoff zigbee 3.0 dongle plus. (I follow this link step:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jqQCxjlRDU&t=842s)

I'm facing a problem:
I use VMware fusion to install Windows 11. dongle has connected to VMWare. but can't loaded to SmartRF Programmer2.

molten linden
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on your mac

wicked sparrow
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thanks for your reply. let me try it

wicked sparrow
molten linden
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to flash the sonoff

wicked sparrow
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replaces SmartRF Flash Programmer 2?

molten linden
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yes

wicked sparrow
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I see. Thank you very much.

empty tusk
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Does anyone use a Candeo zigbee dimmer (C101 or C201) with HA? They work fine for the most part, but I just can't work out how to set the brightness while the light is off, e.g. at night time I want the light to come on low when the physical switch is pressed, but the best I can do at the moment is an automation that triggers when the light comes on which means a second or two of full brightness

green hazel
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Hey.
What Zigbee hardware (hub or usb stick or whatever) should I buy, which is compatible with HA and will get an update to support Matter? Any suggestions?

violet dagger
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see pinned items in this channel

green hazel
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Thanks, I will browse through it. But not every Zigbee stick or hub will get an update to support matter, or?

wanton plume
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Hi guys, trying to install the ZHA integration and I'm getting a 'Failed to connect' error. I'm using a ConBee II stick on one of the USB2 ports, the device patch show in the connection box is /dev/ttyACM0. Any suggestions? DeConz add-on is installed and working.

tropic depot
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you can't use both

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remove the addon or use deconz in core

wanton plume
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Ah damn, I'm an idiot... Thank you!

tropic depot
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when I say remove the addon... i mean remove it too 🙂 if you stop it and it restarts it will screw things up. I mention this because lots of folks want to try multiple integrations to see which they like the most

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that is great... but you need to do it in isolation

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can't have parts of each potentially on at the same time

sour shadow
tropic depot
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running multi protocol still isn't working too well yet

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meaning zigbee + thread

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to support both at the same time

sour shadow
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Thankfully I've got a few spare CC2652 based sticks ablobjoy

tropic depot
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😄

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it will get there... but the 1.0 "release" of matter isn't 1.0 IMO

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stuff just isn't in the state it should be in

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🤷‍♂️

sour shadow
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Yeah, I have no expectation that running multi-protocol will be a sane choice for a long time

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Hell, I have no expectation that Matter will be a viable choice this side of Christmas

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(whether that's this year, or next... that's the question)

tropic depot
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I think it will be at least a year or 2 personally

royal houndBOT
soft plover
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@sour shadow What 🤣

royal houndBOT
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sour shadow
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That ☝️

soft plover
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I currently have zigbee MOES radiator thermostats integrated into the Home Assistant and would like to control them with weekly profiles in HA. Currently, I do not have a TUYA zigbee Bridge and I am not using the TUYA Smart App. How can I create weekly profiles for the radiator thermostats in HA?

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I have also installed a zigbee wall/room thermostat, which is to be used as the actual temperature for the radiator thermostat. This is not the internal radiator temperature sensor.

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And finally, the whole is to be coupled with a window sensor so that, for example, the set temperature is lowered after the window has been open for 2 minutes and the heating plan is resumed after the window is closed.

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What have I already tried:
I have already tried with the scheduler-card . That works as far as it goes, but I'm not completely satisfied yet. Because entering the set temperature and time is not really easy on an iPhone.
With 'automations' it becomes very extensive and confusing. With 2-5 switching times per day, on weekends even differently, and for 10 rooms.With 'automations' it becomes very extensive and confusing. With 2-5 switching times per day, on weekends even differently, and for 10 rooms.

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I still have a problem with the max_temp that is returned by the radiator thermostat. This has a value of 300-100 instead of 30-10. This makes the temperature input via slider even more difficult because the scale (max_value) is not correct.

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sour shadow
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Once more ... pay attention @soft plover

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Stop posting text/codewalls

soft plover
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Why are you not allowed to post yaml codes?

sour shadow
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Use a code share site, it's not hard

soft plover
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not hard but cumbersome... but no problem i use this

lean belfry
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the switches works

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but it does not do anything

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i have one without neutral and that works

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not this one?

austere patio
fleet lodge
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@austere patio have you seen any development from TI for support of multiprotocol for CC2562, etc...?

austere patio
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Not something I'm following at the moment

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I think they are but if you want to deploy, just use two sticks

fleet lodge
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Makes sense

molten linden
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I've only seen ble+zigbee concurrent stuff from TI

glossy pulsar
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is it possible to move the zigbee database with the stick to a new system?

austere patio
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What integration are you using?

glossy pulsar
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hmm, forgot the name and it does not show it...

austere patio
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Then probably ZHA

glossy pulsar
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Zigbee Home Automation

austere patio
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In that case, yes, just move your HA backup and the stick to the new system

glossy pulsar
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Wanna move it from a x86 system to ARM

sour shadow
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That's fine

novel crown
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Does a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 Dongle offer any improvements over zzh? Is an upgrade worth it?

austere patio
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I would say no, they use practically the same chip. The only difference is a power amplifier for TX on the Sonoff stick, but it's arguable whether or not that has any positive impact.

novel crown
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So basically: only if you have bad connections it may be worth it

austere patio
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Not really. When you send something over a Zigbee network, most of the time something else has to get sent back

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It will only possibly help with the coordinator-sending-something portion. It won't make your coordinator any better at hearing other devices on the network, and connection problems are usually there.

lilac wharf
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Yeah but the Sonoff stick can yell louder and louder == better /s

novel crown
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that's why I said may be worth it. But so got it. I should just maybe update the firmware on my zzh

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another question: Zigbee network is supposed to be self repairing, but I read that some devices, especially aqara, behave a bit sticky, i.e. they tend to stick to the router they know even tho there is a better router nearby. Can I use the reconfigure functionality in ZHA to force them to look for a better router or is the only way to basically remove the device from the network and add it again?

austere patio
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Routing is out of ZHA's control. Reconfiguration only re-binds clusters and sets up reporting again, it can't ask a device to find new routes.

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You will have to permit joins through a specific router and re-join the device to your network (no need to remove)

novel crown
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okay, got it. Thanks for your replies!

spring smelt
austere patio
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You can restore a Z2M backup to ZHA, but not the other way around

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The backup is also only for the network settings and information stored on the coordinator, it won't let you seamlessly migrate an existing network to Z2M or vice versa (unless you have mostly routers, which will be picked up as they check in)

spring smelt
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Ah darn, ok thanks

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I’m not 100% sure which route i wanna go between z2m/zha so i was hoping there was some magic way to try both without having to start over 😭

polar helm
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Does anybody here have a good blog/feed etc. for new ZigBee devices on the market?

graceful elm
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Does zigpy or the base radio library handle device availability? I'm noticing that offline devices are periodically marked available.

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I have a osram lightify bulb I removed because something in the led driver has gone out, randomly changes color, and if you look at the logs, every 2hrs it's availability changes. It's been setting on my desk for about a week while I decide if I want to disassemble it.

tropic depot
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zha based on the last_seen on the device object from Zigpy

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if you enable debug logging it is all logged out

mellow geode
graceful elm
tropic depot
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i almost wonder if this is from a device changing nwk or nwk conflicts...

graceful elm
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I didn't notice until I moved from the xbee coordinator

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Seems to be just mains powered devices

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I looked for nwk duplicates and didn't seen any, but it could certainly be a conflict

molten linden
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I never had a stable zigbee network until i removed all the osram lightify bulbs I had.

graceful elm
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Hah, I haven't had too many issues, but they are slowly removing themselves all but one have died

molten linden
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they would fall off line continuously and or just blackhole other traffic. Smartthings used to have a note on their support page for them, that they were known to have routing bugs

graceful elm
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I called osram to see if they would warranty them, they told me they sold that portion of their business, probably decided they were junk

mellow geode
graceful elm
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Yep, I'm starting to suspect it's related to the TI coordinator

mellow geode
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I also tried to reproduce the issue once with debug logs and lowering the "offline time" in ZHA settings but then it didn’t appear, so if you could get debug logs while the device is marked back as online (when it’s off), that would be helpful

graceful elm
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Yeah, I just need to take some time to look for it, I have two devices that it's happening to right now, one is the lightify bulb and the other is an xbee that got kicked off the network for some reason and I haven't crawled under the crawlspace to reset it.

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Also have some sengled bulbs coming in to replace the last osram, so will be interesting to see if we see the same behavior with it once I remove it

toxic herald
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I'm using z2mqtt and have a Conbee2 stick and now want to change to a sonoff. I run z2mqtt in docker so I change device from ttyACM0 to ttyUSB0, update config file for z2mqtt and then recreate the container. But now I have issue with z2m to start. Getting

Error: network commissioning timed out - most likely network with the same panId or extendedPanId already exists nearby

Found on internet to unplug all my zigbee routers, but that is a few and some are hard wired so nu plugs. Another was to change zigbee channel, but I want to use the channel I 'm on since far from interferance from other 2.4ghz channels. Any idea how to solve this ?

kindred arrow
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Hello everyone 🖐️ I'm happy to find this channel 🕺
Short update on why I joined this channel.
I'm constructing my new house and planning to make it a smart home. So this is going to be a risky, exciting, and challenging one ❤️
Will start sharing my thoughts here soon to get help and tips 🙂
Also, I'm from India and if anyone is part of this awesome channel from India, please let me know. It would really help when choosing products 💯

sour seal
left juniper
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My net meter says it has ZigBee support but I couldn't find anything through Google. Anyone have any idea if I can get this working?

austere patio
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Zigbee Smart Energy isn't compatible with other devices. The meter acts as a coordinator and expects end devices like energy displays and "bridges" to connect to it.

vague kestrel
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Hello all, Anyone know of a good guide or video for setting up Zigbee2Mqtt in Docker?
i've tried following several including the info found on the Zigbee2MQTT but have been unable to get it working.

sour shadow
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Hello all Anyone know of a good guide or

sharp shell
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Hi Guys

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Looking to automate my blinds. Saw a video by thehookup, but this uses power cord and I’m looking for a battery solution. So I thought maybe zigbee is the was to go. Anyone knows how to diy blinds thehookup style, but then with batteries?

silver stump
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Hey there,
As I wrote it earlier I am having a hard time with few ikea zigbee devices. (using zha and zhh! stick) Some of them works without an issue, but some of them just refuse to. Tried repairing it, everything.
But I just read that there is going to be a HA zigbee dongle, with an incuded usb cable because rpi usb port can cause an interference. Can someone ellabore me on this subject? Is this accurate? Could this be the issue in my case?

molten linden
sterile sleet
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It depends in my experience, I have multiple pi4's with no problems whatsoever with usb3,
a different one creates a full 2.4ghz black hole for about a full m³ or even more around the ports. whats interesting is that the pis own wifi works there but anything else fails

vague kestrel
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@silver stump Maybe a networked Zigbee device instead of a dongle would be a solution, I'm considering adding one in a central location. Then use a dongle set up as a router on my Pi's and Odroid devices in areas where my signal is weak.

vague kestrel
drifting vortex
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Hi, I am currently in the process of changing my set up from ZHA to zigbee2mqtt, I have been able to get my SONOS switches to pair, however I am unable to get my Philips Hue bulbs to work.

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I have tried a power cycle, and I have also tried to connect to them via bluetooth using the app on my phone to initiate a reset but that also doesn't seem to be able to connect to the bulbs

silver stump
lilac wharf
vital ermine
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a pretty general question i know.... but is there a way to find 'bad actors' on the zigbee network? occasionally i have a light go offline etc. Not very often, but its annoying

sour shadow
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Remove anything by Osram

vital ermine
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my network is very dense, so its not distance related

silver stump
vital ermine
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and sonoff sensors i have to re add once a while....

sour shadow
lilac wharf
sour shadow
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Routers just need power ... coordinators need a connection to the device running the Zigbee stack. Something in a central location would be best done with a (wired) network connected coordinator

vital ermine
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is there a limit a stick can handle when you have loads of routers?(lights)

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CC2652P2 i have

sour shadow
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Then don't worry about it until you pass about 80 devices

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At that point, consider updating the firmware to the most recent dev release

vital ermine
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61 now. But thats with door/window sensors etc

sour shadow
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I've got about that many, zero issues here

vital ermine
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can CC2652P2 communicate with 61 directly? or only via proxy(routers)

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any benefit of flashing anyway?

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i attached a elongated wifi antenna as well. Instead of the little one.

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had it laying around. OR is that a bad idea

sour shadow
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You want/need routers

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There's a limit of 50 direct children

vital ermine
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got a lot so that cant be the issue

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I have it in a room on first floor so in order to get to next floor its bounces via hallways etc. So no 50 directly

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i pasted the ikea OTA in the config a while ago and removed it after a couple of days. i 'think' that has updated all ikea stuff

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but i didnt check logs or anything....

sour shadow
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It won't auto-update anything unless you pushed the button

vital ermine
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mmmm. ill read about that some more then 😉

# 
  zigpy_config:
    ota:
      ikea_provider: true                        # Auto update Trådfri devices```
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then reboot.

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no 'button' to press (?)

mellow geode
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IKEA devices will ask the coordinator for updates every so often

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You can also force a request by sending this service call: https://dpaste.org/bFga0
Replace the IEEE with the one of the bulb

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If you enabled debug logs, you'll see if a device is updating

silver stump
mellow geode
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The router will join your network wirelessly. Like, there's no data going over ethernet/WiFi anywhere

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Ideally, you have your coordinator (main Zigbee stick) in a central location.
All routers (light bulbs, smart plugs, Zigbee sticks with router firmware) then act as "repeaters" but only relay data via your Zigbee network.

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If your machine running HA isn't in a central location, either properly place some more routers near it or get an Ethernet-based coordinator (e.g. https://www.tubeszb.com/product/cc2652_coordinator/39). ZHA or Z2M can then communicate with the coordinator over Ethernet. (You can also use another Pi with ser2net for example)

silver stump
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Okay, I have an other zhh! stick I will set it up as a router and try that out maybe that will improve.

undone anchor
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Hey everyone, I'm pretty new to all this ZigBee magic, A couple months ago i bought a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus. plugged it in and it worked fine. After updating home assistant to 2022.9 my ZigBee integration has stopped working. I've tried to reset the sick and a few other debugging techniques but none are working for me. I don't really understand the below error log, if anyone could point me in the correct direction i would be greatly appreciative

2022-09-22 09:35:30 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, s/n: 32e38ea49245ec11a57b98fd6f14af06 - ITead for zha
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/__init__.py", line 102, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 172, in async_initialize
2022-10-07 16:56:55 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.config_entries] Error setting up entry Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, s/n: 32e38ea49245ec11a57b98fd6f14af06 - ITead for zha
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/__init__.py", line 102, in async_setup_entry
await zha_gateway.async_initialize()
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/core/gateway.py", line 172, in async_initialize
austere patio
undone anchor
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when i click see full log that's all i get

austere patio
winter sorrel
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If you don't have a dimmer, there seems to be a different route by directly connecting via Bluetooth, then resetting the zigbee connection in the hue app. I don't know how that specifically works, though.

austere patio
whole hollow
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Hey all, new here. I've been tinkering with HA for a few days and as I read through the HA 2022.10 release info page, I came across the SkyConnect USB dongle it seems to have the same chip as the SONOFF Dongle Plus-E (EFR32MG21). Any idea how they are going to be different in operation? Thanks

sour shadow
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For Zigbee, both will be much the same

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The Sonoff has an external antenna, so likely better range

whole hollow
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Thanks for the info! I pre-ordered the SkyConnect but since I don't have a zigbee dongle yet I think I'll just get the SONOFF one.

sour shadow
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It's a good dongle if you're planning on using ZHA

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If you're planning on using Zigbee2MQTT then ... not a good dongle

lilac wharf
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|| hehe dongle ||

whole hollow
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Yes I was planning Z2M. I've read both good and bad. Any advantage to get the EFR32MG21 over CC2652P? Doesn't EFR32MG21 shipping in HA yellow and SkyConnect mean it'll get supported?

sour shadow
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For Z2M buy something CC2652 based

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Support for the EFR32M is still pretty experimental and unstable

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It's pretty normal to see people report weird problems with the Sonoff-E

whole hollow
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Got it. Thanks but then, why release EFR32M devices in the first place? SONOFF even calls it v2...

pearl jackal
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Are they easily flashable? like down the line when Matter+Zigbee firmware comes

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or just matter

whole hollow
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No idea. I read both chips could support it.

lilac wharf
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it works well with ZHA

sour shadow
whole hollow
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Makes sense

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Shame because the EFR32M was quite a lot cheaper haha

sour shadow
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Eventually it's quite possible Z2M will have solid support for them, but I'd not hold your breath

sour shadow
whole hollow
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Let's hope sooner than later with all the HA yellow finally being delivered

sour shadow
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Eh... if you want to use the stuff onboard the Yellow, use ZHA

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Using an external stick is good for reducing interference anyway 😛

whole hollow
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True

pearl jackal
patent moss
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Hi everyone, after I updated to HA core 2022.10.1 my zigbee stick was unable to initialize (something about 3 failed attempts because of a time out)
I have now reverted back to 2022.9.7 (partial backup restore) where it is able to initialize but whenever I start the pairing process it can't find my old zigbee devices and the logs show
[bellows.zigbee.application] Received messageSentHandler frame with [<EmberOutgoingMessageType.OUTGOING_BROADCAST: 6>, 65532, EmberApsFrame(profileId=0, clusterId=54, sourceEndpoint=0, destinationEndpoint=0, options=<EmberApsOption.APS_OPTION_NONE: 0>, groupId=0, sequence=215), 20, <EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102>, b'']

does anyone know what causes
EmberStatus.DELIVERY_FAILED: 102
or what the issue may be?

I tried placing the zigbee device right next to the zigbee coordinator but no success in that regard :(

austere patio
austere patio
patent moss
austere patio
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The new Sonoff-E dongle (or whatever they call it)?

patent moss
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yeah the one with the EFR chip instead of the CP something chips or whatever

austere patio
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Does it consistently fail to start up with 2022.10.1 and works with 2022.9.x?

patent moss
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it 100% fails on 2022.10.0 and 2022.10.1 even when reconfiguring

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on 2022.9.x it was finicky where it didn't work at first on usb 3.0 but after I put it on a usb 2.0 port it worked. but now it doesn't again

austere patio
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Do you have the failure log from 2022.10.1?

patent moss
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Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 2 of 3)
Couldn't start EZSP = Silicon Labs EmberZNet protocol: Elelabs, HUSBZB-1, Telegesis coordinator (attempt 3 of 3)```
royal houndBOT
austere patio
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Thanks

drifting sparrow
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Is this any good? Zigbee USB stick cc2531 Zigbee2MQTT

royal houndBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

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mellow geode
patent moss
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Not sure if it’s an outdated one never checked

twin gazelle
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Anyone know how to get hass mosquitto integration to auto subscribe to the zigbee2mqtt topic on startup with docker? i have to manually keep setting it on startup

twin gazelle
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apparently it's

sensor:
  - platform: mqtt
    name: 'zigbee2mqtt'
    state_topic: 'zigbee2mqtt'
warm totem
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Trying to add my Aquara door/window sensors but i'm getting these errors in Z2mqtt: Device '0x54ef44100025c243' with Zigbee model 'lumi.magnet.acn001' and manufacturer name 'LUMI' is NOT supported, please follow https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/how_tos/how_to_support_new_devices.html

Can't figure out how to fix it. Also getting the same error with my new Ikea lightbulbs etc. How do I fix this?

lilac wharf
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what version of z2m are you running?

warm totem
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Newest version

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Current version: 1.18.1-1

lilac wharf
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that's a very old version. i'm guessing you're using the addon which changed repos a while ago. i'll try to find the reference

silent anchor
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Hello, I am trying to enable the Status LED on my Hue Motion Sensor using ZHA.

I try it like this using the service, because apparently HASS itself does not show this Cluster Attribute (Zigbee2MQTT and Deconz do though, so my code is correct)

service: zha.set_zigbee_cluster_attribute
data:
  ieee: 00:17:88:01:XXXXXXX
  cluster_id: 0x0000
  endpoint_id: 2
  attribute: 0x0033
  value: false
  manufacturer: 0x100b

However i am getting 51 is not a valid attribute id . Is there any way to force set the attribute if HASS by default does not scan for it?

tropic depot
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You sure the cluster id is correct?

mellow geode
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The existing quirk could be modified to add that attribute

tropic depot
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Also if you aren't doing this in an automation the manage device dialog in ZHA is much easier to use than this is

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but the attribute needs to be defined as TheJulianJES said

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and once it's in the quirk... we can make it even easier for everyone w/ a switch configuration entity on the device

silent anchor
tropic depot
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The config entity?

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But the quirk would need to be updated first to add the attribute to the correct cluster

turbid drum
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ok... so... I shut down and unplugged my pi with usb sticks... moved it closer, paired a z-wave device, and now have put it back in it's home... however... now, zigbee2MQTT doesn't want to launch, and I have no idea what I did (other than unplugging it)... anybody have any help? 🤞 😬 😟

astral token
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Anyone with the Sengled E21-N1EA bulbs? I have a couple and they work great but I’m confused on how to automate a color change. I can turn them on and off and select color in the color picker but I don’t see an entity or service to call to set the color. What am I missing here?

astral token
lilac wharf
turbid drum
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is 4 lines too much to paste here?

lilac wharf
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nope

turbid drum
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Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-10-08 17:37:23: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://10.0.1.98:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-08 17:37:23: MQTT error: Connection refused: Not authorized
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-08 17:37:23: MQTT failed to connect, exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-10-08 17:37:23: Stopping zigbee-herdsman...

lilac wharf
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MQTT error: Connection refused: Not authorized

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MQTT username/password is incorrect

turbid drum
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I have a feeling, I mapped the stick with usb port... and when I unplugged it, I plugged it into a different port, and therefore, it's not able to connect?

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maybe?

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How could the username/password be wrong if it was working, turned off, unplugged, plugged back in, turned on...

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it was never changed

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or modified

lilac wharf
turbid drum
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if I want to change the z2m to use the stick ID rather than USB port... would I change the port under serial in the config from /dev/ttyUSB0 to the id?

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ok... I've changed the serial port to the ID, I've changed the password in the config, and my mqtt user...

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not sure what else to try... it's still being denied

lilac wharf
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what does your MQTT broker log say?

turbid drum
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still says connection refused...

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I'm wondering if it got a different IP from DHCP

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(the pi)

lilac wharf
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i asked what your MQTT broker log says

turbid drum
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Maybe I don't know what that is?

lilac wharf
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your MQTT server at 10.0.1.98

turbid drum
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2022-10-08 18:05:35: New connection from 172.30.32.2:51434 on port 1883.
2022-10-08 18:05:35: Client <unknown> closed its connection.

lilac wharf
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any other devices/software having issues connecting to the broker?

mellow geode
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Config entity could then be done separately in HA

turbid drum
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All of my zigbee devices are not responsive.

lilac wharf
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i mean do you have any other devices or software other than zigbee2mqtt that communicate via MQTT?

turbid drum
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I have zwave2mqtt

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is that what you mean?

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Sorry... I am not very good at the technical stuff for HA. :\

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this is frustrating for me because all my lights are zigbee, and... it's getting dark... and I can't see anything - or turn on lights...

rough quest
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can you try to connect to your mqtt server with a client like mqtt explorer using your zigbee username password

turbid drum
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I am open to trying. is that a stand alone software, or... ?

rough quest
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yes it is

turbid drum
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this?

rough quest
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yes

turbid drum
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found it. installed it... I get same error

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so... now I wonder... what setting determines what the username/password is supposed to be?

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like... where in the config is that setup?

rough quest
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so your password is not the good one

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which version of mqtt are you using ? standalone ? docker ?

lilac wharf
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you would have set up the username/password

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unless you're using the MQTT broker addon in which case HA usernames/passwords are valid

silent anchor
turbid drum
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I think (not very good with the technicals) I am using Mosquitto Broker (integrations), with zigbee2MQTT (add-on)

lilac wharf
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the integration is just for connecting HA to your MQTT broker

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you have to have an MQTT broker running somewhere too

turbid drum
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oh... I had some mild success

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in mqtt explorer I connected using the MQTT password from broker settings

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seems this is the homeassistant user

mellow geode
# silent anchor perfect, hit me up if i can test it

PR is up now: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/1812 (and follow-up: https://github.com/zigpy/zha-device-handlers/pull/1813)
I'll also look at adding config entities in HA itself. With the quirk, you can at least use the Manage clusters option (or a service call).
You should be able to download the change file, configure a custom quirk directory and put the file in there (or wait for the next HA release).
If you need help with testing the quirk, let me know

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uhm, forgot to push a second change, so the clusters are used in the replacement (oops) (fixed now)

turbid drum
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so... this is probably a dumb question... but:
What determines what is a good/bad username/password for zigbee2mqtt?

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I want to try setting up new auth, but... can't seem to figure it out

rough quest
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there is not difference between a good and bad password for other application. A good password is a password that only you know it, at least 12 signs (at least 20 is of course better). For the password, you could you create username that speak to you z2m for exemple

turbid drum
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ok... when I ask good/bad, I mean... what part of the system do I configure what usernames/passwords are valid to use to authenticate

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woah

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lights just came on...

rough quest
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^^

turbid drum
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apparently... something I did worked

rough quest
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so don't touch anything till tomorrow 🙂

turbid drum
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lol

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no kidding

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Well, thanks for the suggestions. 😄

rough quest
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but for tomorrow, think of creating a specific username password for your z2m and set it in the configuration of z2m. In future, if you add new software which use mqtt, do the same. One account for one application. it's more easy after if you need to do some debuging

turbid drum
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the thing is... I did create a user for z2m... it was working... until I unplugged and shut down

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it is using a user now, I think it may have been the server address? not really sure

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but, I am glad it's working

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as I get more familiar with the technical side of HA, I'm sure I'll get better and know more what I'm doing and how to troubleshoot... but for now, I'm still new.

rough quest
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no problem, we all start a day with no knowledge !

turbid drum
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🙂

mellow geode
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regarding ZHA: if an attribute read returns "unsupported" initially and later works successfully, should the attribute be removed from the "unsupported attributes"?
See this as an example: https://dpaste.org/nSs9f#L327,335,336,337 (<- Lines 327 and 335-337)

tropic depot
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like how can the device change its response

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it’s definitely something we should adjust

mellow geode
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I’ll have to take a look at it later. I was working on adding the reset delay on the Occupancy cluster to the UI. Added the attribute to the ZCL_INIT_ARGS and then saw that the attribute came back as unsupported. Reading it manually worked (or after initially pairing at all).
And somehow adding it to ZCL_INIT_ARGS with False (no cache(?)) seems to have worked (some of the time). Didn’t test much yet. Was just a bit weird that a manual read afterwards didn’t remove it from the unsupported list

royal houndBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

Command '~zigbee' was invoked by: eaeaea
odd mango
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hi. So I have a google coral USB accelerator. When it's working, my zigbee network is hugely unresponsive. I am guessing this is due to USB3 interference. Anyone attacked this issues yet?

lilac wharf
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what zigbee adapter do you have?

odd mango
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sonoff stick

lilac wharf
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are you using a USB 2.0 extension cable with it, and is it plugged into a USB 2.0 port?

odd mango
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plugged directly to usb3

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next to coral

lilac wharf
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generally a bad idea even without a coral

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do you have any USB 2.0 ports?

odd mango
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will look for one

lilac wharf
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if so, plug the zigbee adapter into that (ideally with a usb 2.0 extension cable)

odd mango
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I have observed USB3 drives causing issues for WiFi, so my guess is this is the same

odd mango
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yes, so zigbee stick works on usb2 port so far

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by the way, are there any zigbee+bt hubs available?

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preferably running on PoE

lilac wharf
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i don't know of any combo zigbee/bluetooth hubs. there are multiple zigbee Ethernet coordinators such as the ones here though (and one supports PoE): https://www.tubeszb.com/shop/coordinators/2 if you're outside the US, that might not be an option though

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it might be cheaper to get a zigbee Ethernet coordinator that doesn't have PoE and get a separate PoE splitter (but then naturally the splitter is a point of failure)

silent anchor
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If so, where would that file be located inside the core container?

lean echo
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does anyone know what's the minimum refresh rate for ikea motion sensors?

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I saw I can reduce up to 1s the timeout, but it looks like the sensor won't detect me

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I think I can answer myself after some testing... 90s

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what's the point to reduce the occupancy timeout beyond what the sensor can do?

mellow geode
# silent anchor Thank you for your work. I am using HassOS. Is it possible to just replace the ....

For a quick test, that would work. It's not recommended at all of course.
The file you'd wanna replace is this one: /usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/zhaquirks/philips/motion.py
(Take a backup before doing so)
When upgrading to another HA version, the container gets rebuilt and the file should get replaced with the original one for that version.

Also, what motion sensor do you have? (SML001, SML002, SML003, SML004)
(I tested it on a SML003/SML004 and it works there. I hope not but it's possibly a slight modification needs to be made if it initially doesn't work for the older SML001/SML002 sensors) (I get a SML002 for further testing soon)

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In the future, it should be possible to have an easily accessible config entity in HA

crystal oak
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Hello - I can not manage to change Cluster Attributes from the SHA UI for my TS011F _TZ3000_ew3ldmgx : i want to change the "power_on_state" from Off to LastState (i think i got Manuf code 4098 form the log, but no "value" works : i tried everything i could think of - what am i missing ?

mellow geode
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You can read the attribute fine, right?

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In the text field where it says PowerOnState.Off after you’ve read the attribute, replace it with 2 and write the attribute (leave the other text field empty)

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If you read it again, it should say LastState

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For Tuya plugs:
0 = Off
1 = On
2 = LastState

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I guess a config entity in HA should also be added for this

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@crystal oak

violet magnet
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Anyone have Sinope's line voltage thermostats and know what the story is with firmware updates?

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I emailed them about an issue where temperature readings go up ~10F when a fan is running in the same room with the thermostat and was told that it would be fixed in a firmware update this fall

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I'm poking them again (and a bit skeptical because it seems like a hardware issue to me) but in the meantime I don't see any sort of firmware available from them...

mellow geode
silent anchor
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Ill try replacing the file directly later or tomoroww and report back

mellow geode
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Nice, thanks!

violet magnet
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crystal oak
# mellow geode For Tuya plugs: 0 = Off 1 = On 2 = LastState

i tried typing 2, also 0x02 ans also otherthings then write, i got green chack and no errors but but read attribute now broken returns None for every attribute of any cluster)" - and after reloading the page (you never know) read attribute now reworks but still return to "PowerOnState.Off"

mellow geode
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So the second manufacturer code text field always need to be left empty. Attribute reads shouldn’t return None for every cluster/attribute of course.

austere patio
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Possibly because the manufacturer code is populated?

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Or is that a Tuya feature?

tropic depot
mellow geode
lean echo
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I installed today 2 sonoff zbmini-l and I'm loving their performance!

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is there any version to be able to use more than 1 rocket?

crystal oak
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IT WORKED (with writing "2" an with No Manuf Code -- 10000 Thanks !!!!! i look, Sooooo stupid !!!!! so happy that there is a HA community so helpfull - HA is Great - Devs are Wizards

royal houndBOT
silent anchor
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@mellow geode while were at it:

there's a sorta related issue but no progress. The Aqara T1 Module (SSM-U01) has an option to change switch type from on/off to toggle.

The Z2M Code for that is this:
https://hastebin.com/vutuyajihi

any chance of implementing this quickly?

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no problem if not, but it's really annoying because I'd have to swap my Switches since HASS lacks the option to set it to momentary

mellow geode
silent anchor
mellow geode
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Same can be done for the Aqara thing probably

silent anchor
mellow geode
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The custom quirk there looks like it should do the job. Regarding the "configuration.yaml" part, the "enable_quirks: true" part can be ignored, as it’s true by default.
But that’s how you’d define a custom quirks folder

silent anchor
mellow geode
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I’ll try to look at it soon. It seems like there’s still the "enum issue" with the custom quirk but that should be fixable of course

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The best outcome would be if that quirk gets merged (+ slightly fixed) and a config entity is exposed in HA itself, so that you don’t even need to search for the attribute

crystal oak
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As long as i see people that seem to know their way in ZHA, no big deal, But THIS plug TS011F by _TZ3000_ew3ldmgx (and some others plugs, maybe from the same suplier - i would have to check) seem to "Not report" to ZHA their status change when activated by the manual button on the plug, is it something to do with my setup ? by this model / manufactuer ? Other some plugs are reporting OK

mellow geode
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Yeah, those plugs no longer send attribute reports. Tuya added this "feature" in some new firmware version. I don’t think ZHA actually polls plugs for OnOff(?)

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So yeah, it’s not ideal

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ZHA should probably poll the plug every so often (but I don’t think it does atm). Lights get polled in a 45-75 minute interval for example

Edit: only poll that weird TS011F Tuya plug lol

crystal oak
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ah - that is not me - not so "smart" as a plug !

silent anchor
# mellow geode The best outcome would be if that quirk gets merged (+ slightly fixed) and a con...

I believe (tm) Z2M also sets a number. I couldn't find the deconz code for it.

Yes, an exposing of the entity would be ideal, just like with the hue motion sensor. But it may be enough for now if there's the option to write it in the manage section and it's documented somewhere. I dunno how much more work for you guys exposing such an entity would be though. I'd love to contribute more to HASS myself in the future, but for now I am lacking the time and python knowledge sadly.

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Thanks again for all the work you already did for me, really appreciate it!

mellow geode
tropic depot
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we do lights because lightlink was around for a long while and there are many lights that don't report as a result (mainly original Hue) with large install bases

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nearly all plugs just work

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adding polling to that globally wouldn't be good IMO. We can add targeted entity classes in ZHA that are selective to model / manufacturer... that way we don't burden the network unnecessarily for a few misbehaving devices.

lilac wharf
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lol tuya

fast fractal
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All I can say is WOW. I got the ConBee II and a Xiaomi Aqara Contact sensor, and it works so easily! I just plugged in my ConBee, restarted my Pi, it discovered instantly! I pair my contact sensor, and it just pops up instantly. When I open the contact sensor, it pops up instantly. It's so nice and fast, it's great!

lilac wharf
fast fractal
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I can't stop playing with opening and closing the door 😂

lilac wharf
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zigbee and zwave are nice

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|| unfortunate choice of zigbee adapter though ||

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jk the conbee is fine. there are just newer options out there

fast fractal
austere patio
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Just make sure you have it plugged into a USB 2.0 extension cable

fast fractal
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It is 👍

austere patio
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And be aware it may sometimes randomly stop working for a bit if you restart HA

fast fractal
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Oh well

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We'll see what happens :)

lofty kindle
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Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me pointers. I’m looking to replace this 2 way UK dimmer switch, to something that supports zigbee, and led dimming. Are there any good alternatives? Thanks

patent moss
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does anyone know how you would approach the issue where zigbee devices are not pairing to the coordinator? After the patch my zigbee sticks sets up fine but I can't pair my sensors.
I tried looking at the logs (https://pastebin.com/mETTgk8b) but I do not see anything screaming 'issue'.

austere patio
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Is it on a USB 2.0 extension cable?

soft plover
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I have the zigbee Conbee II stick in use via ZHA.
What is it like when I add a Tuya Bridge for my zigbee radiators thermostats?
Which would normally be managed by the TUYA App.
I have only integrated the zigbee radiator thermostats (MOES china) via ZHA.
Can I operate them via the additional TUYA Bridge and
integrate them into HA at the same time?
And that would be a completely new Zigbee network again, wouldn't it?
and therefore my very well developed zigbee network (conbee) would not be usable for this.
But only the new TUYA zigbee for the radiators, which do not form a mesh.
And so I will only have a bad
Tuya Bridge and the radiator thermostats will I have a bad zigbee network?

sour shadow
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Can I operate them via the additional TUYA Bridge and integrate them into HA at the same time?
With the Tuya integration, if it supports it, yes
And that would be a completely new Zigbee network again, wouldn't it?
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Tuya Bridge and the radiator thermostats will I have a bad zigbee network?
Yes, or more accurately it wouldn't be a mesh, and probably won't reach them all

pine swan
# lofty kindle Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me pointers. I’m looking to replace th...

I replaced the dimmer with a dumb switch, put Ikea smart bulbs in the fittings then 3D printed covers for the switches and stuck Aqara D1 wireless switches to the covers. I had a special application because I needed to control 2 lights but there was only 1 set of wires and I wanted to use the Zigbee bulbs as repeaters. Since you have 2 sets of wires, Aqara make a D1 with integrated switching but I'm not sure if they make one with dimmers. You will also probably need to install their bypass module in the fittings if you're keeping your dumb bulbs

pearl jackal
pine swan
patent moss
silent anchor
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@mellow geode so with the modified quirk version, if I query the Hue Trigger Indicator Attribute, I get Bool.false.

With the unmodified version it said none.

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I changed the value then to Bool.true and pressed write, and it didnt error out but after writing when i read it again it was still Bool.false

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The logs said the write failed because of this:

[0x5D5D:2:0x0000] Failed to convert attribute 0x0033 from Bool.true (<class 'str'>) to type <enum 'Bool'>: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'Bool.true'

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ah, just writing it to true worked and now returns bool.true. maybe it'll be better to just show true/false when reading the attribute?

mellow geode
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That’s currently an issue with how the cluster UI worked. Numbers (0, 1) should mostly work fine too

patent moss
tropic depot
snow plinth
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Hey everybody. I am an absolute noob in zigbee-land. A question I have is in the situation: If I would take a zigbee device (for example a switch) out of reach I would assume it would become unavailable. Would it become available again when it is in reach? What would the effects be on the battery of the device while it is out of reach?

pine swan
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Zigbee forms a mesh. For most devices, they won't go unavailable as long as some mains powered device can see them

snow plinth
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this would be in the scenario that I would take a zigbee button away from my house and come back later with it.

pine swan
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Mains powered devices usually function as Zigbee Repeaters (ZR) and relay messages for Zigbee End Devices (ZED). Battery powered devices or those for which the power source isn't known may not be repeaters

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My experience has been that that depends on the device but usually, if the device is away for less than 24 hours, it will come back

snow plinth
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ok so longer than that would make it MIA of some sort even if it comes back

pine swan
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I think that depends on the device

snow plinth
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and do you know what it would do to the battery of the button in this case?

pine swan
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I don't think it will kill the device battery. They don't check in frequently

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Others here are far more expert than I am

snow plinth
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and do you have an idea of how long it would take to connect again when it is in reach?

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you are 100% more knowledgeable than I am already

pine swan
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It may well reconnect as soon as you press the button. Making a burglar alarm?

snow plinth
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If it would connect again by itself in about a minute or so, it could be used for person detection.

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as in I'm not going to give my kids smartphones just yet (to young) but if tossing a zigbee button in their backpack would help in person detection (provided that I write a template sensor based on the state) plus they don't need keys because the gate and front door can be opened with an encrypted button.

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the theory is there, I'm just trying to figure out how realistic this is.

sour shadow
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It's unlikely to magically reconnect upon coming back into range

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There were some arrival sensors that SmartThing made that would do that, but they're hard to get

raven jewel
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iBeacon in the backpack?

snow plinth
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Oh hard is not impossible... something to look into.

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ibeacons would be the other horse i would bet on indeed

raven jewel
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They're the first horse I would bet on personally.

snow plinth
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Not many multi-button ibeacon things out there... hence the interest in zigbee.

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plus I want to dip my toes in zigbee land anyway.

pine swan
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What is it you want to happen when they come home?

raven jewel
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Why do you want a "kid is home" tracker to have a button?

snow plinth
raven jewel
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I'm still not seeing the need for a button

snow plinth
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thats 2 buttons.

raven jewel
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I would not integrate those with a tracker, but look at a different solution

snow plinth
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I don't want that automaticly happening when they come home but I want them to be able to do that

raven jewel
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E.g. NFC tag for the gate and lock.

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My locks have NFC readers built in which I can use as keys. One of them also has a keypad

snow plinth
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I'd prefer it to be kid friendly.

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which in the case of my kids means buttons.

raven jewel
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Waving a card at a reader seems like something a kid would enjoy doing based on the number of NFC juke box things I've seen for kids in here

snow plinth
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Many is not the same as every kid.

raven jewel
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It still seems like it's worth uncoupling the devices. But taking a zigbee button away and bringing it back seems problematic to me. I'm not sure I'd be willing to wait for it to rejoin the network, and troubleshooting when it does not seems difficult to me

pearl jackal
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Currently in the process of moving from a venv installation of homeassistant to homeassistant OS running in a VM, is there a way to migrate the zigbee devices to the Home Assistant OS install?(the zigbee radio im using is a conbee II)

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Specificly not using the backup feature as im taking this as a opportunity to tidy things up and will mainly move things by hand

austere patio
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Copy the contents of your .homeassistant folder (including zigbee.db and .storage/*) and it will either start up without any issues, or you will need to re-configure the serial port, which ZHA has a button to do.

bright helm
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Good afternoon. I have a server running zigbee2mqtt, and then I have my ha server receiving those devices. I inadvertently deleted a device from ha that is still active. I can still see it in z2m. How do I get it back into ha?

sour shadow
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Have you tried restarting Z2M?

bright helm
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Oh hey.. 🙂 I restarted ha (had to update)... let me try restarting z2m..

sour shadow
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I'm not sure it'll help, but it won't hurt

static ginkgo
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So, trying to set up HA with a sonoff zigbee usb-stick P. When I try to do ZHA it asks for a coordinator_backup.json but it is all fresh and new. Haven't been able to find anything that matches it

bright helm
mellow geode
static ginkgo
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under what?

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very new to this

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ah, now it came

sour shadow
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You can't

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You asked that before, and got an answer to it

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Asking again won't change the answer

left juniper
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Oh. I honestly don't remember asking. My mistake.

dapper jay
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Hi - I'm wondering if there's anything I can do to improve the responsiveness of zigbee devices. I'm currently running phoscon on a pi4 and hass on a server. I guess my options are to move phoscon to the server, or move to zigbee2mqtt or ZHA but I'd only want to do any of these unless I could be sure there would be improvements. Does anyone have experience of switching between these options ?

austere patio
dapper jay
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yeah the conbee is on a cable dangling in mid air atm - I've got 55 devices and things are sometimes painful - for example turning on a light group it can be up to 5 seconds before all lamps are lit

tropic depot
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interference or bad zigbee routers on the network

dapper jay
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I'm just updating all the firmware on as many lamps as I can - what can I do to determine "bad routers" ?

lofty kindle
south moth
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Hi. Using deconz in Conbee. Several Aqara motion sensors keep becoming unavailable. The last time one sensor became unavailable and I disabled its device in HA. Now, I readded it in phoscon and can see it reporting in deconz. But it won’t appear in HA. I tried to enable the ’old’ device but it’s unavailable. The new does not show. Any ideas?

crude otter
sour shadow
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Aqara... better odds than if it was Tuya

lean echo
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I'm checking about binding options for the first time as I have some wall switches that take too long to turn on after detecting movement for my taste

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If I add a binding from the motion sensor, I'll lose any ability to control stuff with automatons, right?

sour shadow
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Well, you won't lose the ability to control the switches, but you'll lose the ability to decide when to turn them on/off

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It's also unlikely to help with delays

lean echo
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Oh, so it'll bind to both on and off?

sour shadow
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AFAIK yes

lean echo
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both devices are end devices, but would it improve anything if a try to connect them both to the closest router possible?

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right now both have a LQI of 43 and 98

sour shadow
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It's unlikely to make much difference

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You need to find out where the delays are, and then you can track down what's causing them

azure tinsel
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i was wondering if more people are experiencing that all zigbee devices disconnect once a day for a short amount of time after updating to z2mqtt 1.28.0-1 / core 2022.10 at the exact same moment in time everyday

sour shadow
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No issues with 1.28 here

lean echo
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I had to rollback that version 2 times as 2 of my motion sensor will start acting funny

sour shadow
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That version of HA, or Zigbee2MQTT?

lean echo
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z2m

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I think I spoke with you about it a few days ago... my 2 frient motion sensors will eventually either get stuck in occupied/not occupied or won't report temp/lux

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tried to upgrade again on the weekend as I had more time to tinker with them, but no luck

sour shadow
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Mine are working fine, though I need to go and generate debug logs for the interview so that Koenkk can investigate further

lean echo
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I think it fails with one of the new entities, don't remember its name, but the one of the led reporting, movement, failure and such

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in that github thread you shared it was saying the same

sour shadow
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Yeah, I could manually configure the reporting/binding after pairing, and it worked then

lean echo
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I installed last weekend 2 sonoff mini R3 and super happy with them... are there other alternatives with no neutral? I was checking amazon prime offers but it's still a bit expensive for a single rocker

royal houndBOT
tulip summit
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This was not a code wall... 😄

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Anyway, I am about to order the TRVs for my radiators and I can't decide between 2 options.

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4x Bosch + Zigbee USB for 350 € or 4x Homematic + Homematic USB for 230 €...

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Any ideas or opinions?

sour shadow
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The bot only line counts, so you posted over 15 lines of text and it moved it

tulip summit
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Fair, my bad 🙂

crude otter
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well, that depends if you want cheaper devices, or zigbee devices

tulip summit
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What do I lose/gain with each?

left juniper
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I have a Wyze motion sensor. It's awesome. Tiny (case is the size of the battery), great battery life, great reaction time, looks good, cheeeeap. But it's not Zigbee. Suggestions on a Zigbee replacement motion sensor that's just as good?

sour shadow
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Linkind's sensor is pretty good

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If you don't mind a bit chunky then Develco/Frient do a mult-sensor that does motion, light, and temperature, and takes a pair of AA batteries

left juniper
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Even the Linkind looks huge compared to Wyze

sour shadow
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Konke do some pretty small ones, but they only work on channels 15, 20, and 25, and they're not great sensors

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(they go through batteries pretty fast)

left juniper
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How fast is fast?

sour shadow
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Months, vs the Aqara (and other) ones that last years

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They also have a habit of still reporting 100% battery at the time

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I replaced them with either Linkind or more Aqara sensors and haven't looked back

molten linden
sour shadow
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Yeah, I've heard that... given the "quality" of their stuff, I'm not sure I'd miss them

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Tuya do some very similar looking models...

left juniper
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Thoughts on Aqara vs Linkind? The Aqara have an odd shape.

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And it's really too bad the Linkind has to be so big. The Wyze ones being millimeters bigger than the PIR dome is handgesture

sour shadow
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Swings and roundabouts

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The Linkind is designed to sit on a wall, providing coverage for the area in front of it. Mounting for Aqara is more flexible, but it is a bit bigger

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Of course, Aqara lifespan is years

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I've got a few spots where Linkind makes more sense, and some where Aqara makes more sense

left juniper
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I think my Wyze is 1.5yrs but I could be mistaken.

I just need two cheap motion sensors in my workspace to turn on lights. One is not enough. So I'm trying to avoid paying $30 just to turn a single light fixture on and off, but that looks like that's what I have to do.

sour shadow
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Aqara FP1 is good if you want is still there, not cheap, but really good (as long as you have no fans for it to detect)

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I have one of those along with a PIR in my home office, and I use it to know if I'm still in the room. When I walk out of the room the lights get dimmed and the music, if playing, gets paused. When I walk back in the lights come back on and the music continues.

left juniper
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Whoa the FP1 costs as much as my Zwave 4-1 sensor

sour shadow
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Yeah, but it's worth it IMO

left juniper
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Very interesting articulating base

sour shadow
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Magnetic too, so you can stick it with the sticker, screw the mounting plate in, or just let it grab on

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The only downside is that the cable is fixed

left juniper
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Yeah that's unfortunate. My Zwave one has the option for USB or batt. Micro though... USB C, please kill micro already.

uncut sorrel
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Any cheaper than aqara fp1 mmwave zigbee sensors available?

lean echo
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when you say aqara motion are you referring to the new P1? If so how do you set their sensitivity? I have a few of them on high sensitivity but doesn't feel a big difference with low

lean echo
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I'm hoping he's willing to sell me 2 of those without the mmwave sensor as I have two of them around

uncut sorrel
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Full kit is similar price to FP1, with expensive shipping

lean echo
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didn't check the shipping yet, but it includes a nice PIR plus humidity, temp and lux sensors

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plus the code for controlling the mmwave sensor is being done by the HA community (crlogic is the one driving it) and it's becoming better and better

uncut sorrel
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That's a good point. I would support it, but the price is too much as I would need multiple ones.

left juniper
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IKEA Fyrtur open/close remote: What's the proper way to make this work? I can control the blinds through HA, and the remote is paired to my Zigbee controller but the clicks don't do anything.

molten linden
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check events or see if there are device automations

left juniper
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When I click "BIND GROUP" in the Zigbee config "BINDINGS" setting for a device, it gets stuck. Spinning icon on the button forever. Am I doing something wrong?

mellow geode
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Did you press a button on the remote to wake it up?

left juniper
silent anchor
left juniper
austere patio
left juniper
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For the binding?

austere patio
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Yes

left juniper
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Hm. No luck with that either. Though I also couldn't bind the repeater or the blinds themselves.

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Never mind that worked even though the UI still says it's trying to bind. Weeeeeird

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Yes, I disabled my automation before trying.

bitter flame
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Hi! Recived my Yellow today installed a complet backup from my Rp13 with TI CC2531 dongle the Yellow works perfect but I can not get my Zigbee intergrations to work they work if I put the dongle in Yellow but I do something wrong when I try to migrate the radio.

austere patio
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Or are you trying to move the CC2531 itself to the Yellow?

bitter flame
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I want to migrate from CC2531 to the built in radio in Yellow

austere patio
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After you restored the HA backup to the Yellow, the ZHA integration probably failed to start, right? What happens when you configure the integration and click on the "Migrate" button?

bitter flame
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It ask if I want to migrating to a new radio or re-confiuring the current

austere patio
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Do you have the CC2531 plugged in (or will you be using it in the same house in the future)?

bitter flame
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its not plugged in now not gonna use it more

austere patio
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In that case, re-configure the current radio

bitter flame
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its ttyAMA1 ?

austere patio
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Yes

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It should detect the radio type and then prompt you to either restore a backup or to start from scratch

bitter flame
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yes it does

austere patio
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Restore an automatic backup

bitter flame
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ok then?

austere patio
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Make sure you overwrite the IEEE address, as that's required for the network to work

bitter flame
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no question for that

austere patio
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You must have done it earlier then

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In that case, the migration should be complete. Does it start back up correctly?

bitter flame
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yes i have done it one time earlier today the back up seems to start ok

austere patio
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Are you able to control devices on your network?

bitter flame
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I only can controll ESP devices no Zigbee

austere patio
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Can you PM me? It'll be easier to send screenshots and files this way.

bitter flame
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ok

lusty forge
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My Yellow is up and running perfectly. Had some issue rolling back the z2m database. Did it again. Now I see all devices. Migrated from TI to yellow internal zigbee interface. Nice to see Yellow hardware playing so nicely with zigbee

pine swan
tranquil tartan
lofty kindle
pine swan
# lofty kindle GU10 5W

You can buy GU10 smart bulbs. I'd just replace the dimmers with dumb switches, leave them permanently on and let HA turn the light on and off. You'll have individual bulb control too so better than dimming the whole lot and each bulb is a repeater to build a good Zigbee mesh. Ikea have them for £7-8 a bulb. I control them with these on HA. They're excellent and give two buttons, one for each group of lights https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4001309168310.html

fringe wolf
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Okay, I swear I did my due diligence and searched previous posts on this topic, but somehow none of the solutions provided are working for me.

I bought a SONOFF Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus Gateway. I flashed it via

docker run --rm --device /dev/ttyUSB0:/dev/ttyUSB0 -e FIRMWARE_URL='https://github.com/Koenkk/Z-Stack-firmware/blob/master/coordinator/Z-Stack_3.x.0/bin/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_coordinator_20220219.zip?raw=true' ckware/ti-cc-t
ool -ewv -p /dev/ttyUSB0 --bootloader-sonoff-usb

I'm trying to set it up with ZHA. My home assistant instance is the docker container homeassistant/home-assistant. I'm mapping over all of /dev (just in case) via -v /dev:/dev.

When I go to add the ZHA, The device is found at "/dev/ttyUSB0 - Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus, s/n: 54cfa984a812ec11b28823c7bd930c07 - ITead", I then pick "ZNP" and it takes me to Serial Port Settings. It has a radio box checked (with no value after it?) for "data flow control"

At this step, no matter which option I pick, I get "Failed to connect"

(apologies for the wall of text)

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After searching some more, realized it may have been the -v flag I was using with docker run. Just yolo-ed and now using --privledged and it seems to have fixed it.

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When I'm feeling braver, maybe I'll figure out what the less yolo way to get this correctly mapped via docker

empty tusk
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I'm using a ZZH USB stick with ZHA. Pairing and basic controls work great, just the interoperation between the smart and physical switching seems a bit clunky, although reading a bit more it seems like this might be the norm

tranquil tartan
tropic depot
naive ruin
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Hello HA community.
I'm trying to OTA update my device connected to ZHA. I'm following instructions from HA site (https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha/) but got error. Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
command in Developer Tools:
service: zha.issue_zigbee_cluster_command
data:
ieee: f4:ce:36:1f:4f:64:e7:64
endpoint_id: 1
cluster_id: 25
cluster_type: out
command: 0
command_type: client
manufacturer: 123
args:
-0
-100

tropic depot
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What’s the problem?

naive ruin
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HA said "Failed to run command.unknown error"

tropic depot
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You need to check the full log for the error

naive ruin
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Thanks for pointing me in log direction. I watched logs firstly but didn't found anything useful. Now I looked it again and found what caused this error. It's two in one. First it was missing "space" in arguments (wrong -0 -100 correct - 0 - 100). Second was that my device somehow lost connection to the network and HA cannot send command to device that is not on the network. In Development tools first and second is the same "unknown error".

hardy notch
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I'm running Z2M, and a Sonoff ZBDongle-P. And I have a bit of a problem with some IKEA devices. They go "Offline", and must be triggered from Z2M to wake up again. From HA it seems to not work to wake them up again. One device (E1524/E1810) I even have to re-pair to get it running again. This did not happen when I ran Deconz/Conbee II before migrating to my current setup. Anyone have experienced something similar, and might have a solution to this?

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(Everything is upgraded to the latest firmware)

sage plume
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Anyone here using Salus Sp600 smart plugs? Ihad them for a few weeks but got one that seems to be just.. power-cycling itself at random? Just turns everything attached off, then straight back on again?

mellow geode
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Could it be that a remote controls it?

sage plume
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Nope, there are no commands hitting Zigbee2MQTT to say that it recieved a poweroff command, the only thing thats standing out to me as being usuual about this one is its LQI is quite low, in the 20's

fervent robin
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Good evening. I bought the Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus V2. The dongle is recognized automatically by HA and when I click Configure I get the following question:

Network Formation
Choose the network settings for your radio.

  1. Upload a manual backup >
  2. Erase network settings and form a new network >

I was expecting to have a different configuration wizard, looking at some YT videos. Who can help me? What should I do?

sage plume
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It a new controller/network? Sounds like you want option 2

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YT videos can be .. quite poor for setting this stuff up as things change/menus get redesigned and the videos do not get updated to reflect the new appraoch. Your best going for a written guide based on what controller/addon you are using wiht HA

fervent robin
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Ok thank you @sage plume ... just wanted to be sure. Looks like it's configured correctly.

sage plume
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quite okay, this stuff cna be quite a lot

austere patio
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ZHA receives improvements all the time so YouTube videos will be out of date

fervent robin
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Thank you @austere patio ... I have it installed now and just connected my first zigbee temperature sensor

quartz cipher
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Do zigbee devices automatically change routes if better \ stronger signals are avaialble?

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Or do they stay paired and talking to ONLY the original hub\repeater it was paired to the first time\originally?

sour shadow
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Depends entirely on the device

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Routers almost certainly will change route if they decide there's a better route

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End devices may, or may not. Xiaomi's Zigbee 1.2 range mostly won't (but still may). Other brands vary

nova flint
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Some endpoint devices are super sticky. My Aqara water leak sensors come to mind 😄

quartz cipher
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Hrm. IS there a proper way with ZHA to see what devices are actually communicating to what coordinator\repeater? The network diagram thing and the view child devices menu seems hypocritical/wrong/innaccurate

austere patio
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It's built from what devices report

coarse fog
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I'm having a difficult time with Z2M and I'm hoping for some expertise. Everything was working fine until yesterday when it suddenly stopped and now I can't get Z2M to start.

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This is what my log file shows:
info 2022-10-12 14:31:47: Logging to console and directory: '/config/zigbee2mqtt/log/2022-10-12.14-31-47' filename: log.txt
info 2022-10-12 14:31:47: Starting Zigbee2MQTT version 1.28.0 (commit #unknown)
info 2022-10-12 14:31:47: Starting zigbee-herdsman (0.14.62)
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: zigbee-herdsman started (resumed)
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: Coordinator firmware version: '{"meta":{"maintrel":1,"majorrel":2,"minorrel":7,"product":1,"revision":20220219,"transportrev":2},"type":"zStack3x0"}'
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: Set transmit power to '9'
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: Currently 0 devices are joined:
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: Zigbee: disabling joining new devices.
info 2022-10-12 14:31:48: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
info 2022-10-12 14:31:49: Connected to MQTT server
info 2022-10-12 14:31:49: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload '{"state":"online"}'
info 2022-10-12 14:31:49: Started frontend on port 0.0.0.0:8099
info 2022-10-12 14:31:49: MQTT publish: topic 'zigbee2mqtt/bridge/state', payload '{"state":"online"}'

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And it never progresses past that. Any thoughts?

austere patio
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It looks like it starts

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But Currently 0 devices are joined is odd

coarse fog
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The interface for the web UI isn't available and if I click on it in the sidebar, it tells me it has to be started.

silent thicket
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Hello experts! I have an HA Blue and an HA Yellow. I don't have any zigbee stuff on the Blue and want to start pulling in my Aqara devices directly to HA using zigbee and not the Aqara hub. Is there a way to get my zigbee data over to the Blue from the Yellow? I have tried running Z2M on the Yellow but no matter what I do it won't start. ZHA runs fine and see the Aqara stuff.

lilac wharf
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We're experts?

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Anyway, there wouldn't be a way to migrate from the Aqara hub to the zigbee adapter in the yellow. You'd need to re-pair everything

silent thicket
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That's fine. I just need to get z2m to start. That would suffice if it would work.

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Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-12 16:58:49: Exiting...
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-10-12 16:58:49: Error: Failed to connect to the adapter (Error: SRSP - SYS - ping after 6000ms)```

I get this no matter what configs I try.
lilac wharf
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You'll want to set the adapter type to ezsp if you're using the built-in zigbee adapter in the yellow

silent thicket
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Tried that too

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lilac wharf
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adpater

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Needs to be adapter

silent thicket
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dang it

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stupid spell checker

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well that was a waste of my afternoon!

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Thanks for helping me spell