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azure meadow
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i haven't factory resetted any of them. i'll do that next

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but my door sensors just came online

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seems to slowly fix itself ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

austere patio
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Then the settings restore worked. I'd just wait an hour.

azure meadow
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i feel like today is my lucky day

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didn't the new software update come out today?

austere patio
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Yes, 2022.9.0 was released a few hours ago

azure meadow
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๐Ÿฅณ

grim igloo
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so what is the best solution for moving a controller? rejoin all devices that arent able to choose new routes on the fly?

austere patio
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Routers should periodically check for better routes but end devices joined directly to the coordinator would have to find a new parent, if one exists

azure meadow
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Okay so now I'm back to step 0 - my original problem. Me finding a solution to that one caused all the other so maybe I can ask you guys here:

I own this device https://zigbee.blakadder.com/OSRAM_AC0251x00NJ.html

When I click on buttons, it fires random events controlling all Zigbee devices in my house. How can I disable those events?

One solution was to get the developer version of Zigbee2mqtt but i'd rather stick with ZHA if possible.

tall pike
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Mmm the issue isn't really that after moving the coordinator, I can't see a few distant devices at all. I can connect to all devices at time X, but by X+1 some devices have dropped off.

azure meadow
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@austere patio you should be given a medal for helping all of us btw

grim igloo
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he's a dev that works on zigpy lol

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i'm sure he has a donation link somewhere :x

grim igloo
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what did the scan he linked end up showing?

tall pike
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Yep about 40+ routers out of about 100 devices.

grim igloo
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whoa

tall pike
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I'll try the scan later. At work ATM. But I do hope it isn't due to network congestion from neighbours.

grim igloo
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60 end devices sounds high for only 40 routers but what do i know lol

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curious what he says

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everyone with mesh networks are killing the 2.4ghz band

azure meadow
tall pike
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Hypothetically, if the issue is bandwidth congestion, what are my options? I'm already using a tubeszb coordinator so in terms of raw coordinator power, there is no further option?

grim igloo
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placing one or more dedicated routers is probably your best bet in that case

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you can use 1 coordinator then multiple routers (like a sonoff usb stick or a tube device) as just routers

spring musk
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Hi Puddly, Trying to add some sonoff door sensors. Its directly connected to raspberry pie usb port, I tried usb 3.0 port and usb 2 port. I ordered some USB extention cables to try to put distance , its near an ssd however this was working a few release back. Im not sure what changed.

grim igloo
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but i would think your 40 routers would have you covered if they were spread out

azure meadow
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if i wanna run ZHA and Zigbee2mqtt at the same time, do i need 2 dongles?

grim igloo
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yea

meager abyss
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hi everyone

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ฤฑ ฤฑpdate ha os

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ฤฑ cant use the mqtt device

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onyone helpy about it

violet dagger
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Can you elaborate more on that?

meager abyss
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ฤฑ can show my device and control it in zigbee2mqtt page

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but i cant control it HA page

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and sensor stop sending data on ha

prisma bluff
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so i'm trying out zha but can' figure out on what channel the coordinator is actually running, i did try to make it run on channel 25 in the config but i'de like to verify if it's on that channel. it might not be as i'm also running a conbee (1) on the same channel ๐Ÿ™‚

sour shadow
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Well, you don't want to run two meshes on the same channel at the same time

prisma bluff
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no, but i'de still like to see where i can check the channel the coordinator is running at

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i'm gonna change the channel now to avoid dumb sh*t (tm) anyhow..

prisma bluff
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this test cc2531 that i've flashed with z-stack fw seems to be beyond flimsy, maybe conbee will work better... might test that later

sour shadow
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The CC2531 is a terrible choice

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The ConBee isn't necessarily a great one - it's at least less bad

tall pike
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That feature alone has been v illuminating for me this month.

wind shore
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Hi there! I recently added a Danfoss Ally TRV to ZHA, and it worked fine. Other circumstances forced me to do a complete reinstall (HAOS on RPi 3 with Sonoff 3 dongle), and now this TRV is behaving strangely. I've added other TRVs just like it, and they work just fine. But this one doesn't report battery, it doesn't have a Thermostathvacaction sensor, and while all the new ones show "Heating", this one shows "Heat"...?

prisma bluff
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oh that's nice, but i'll wait until .3 or .4 before i update my ha, i mean.. i'm not insane ๐Ÿ˜‰

tall pike
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Yes, I feel you. I usually wait till the last version before the next x.0 release. But the improvements to zha this month are must have for me. And the upgrade today didn't brick my instance!

thorn gulch
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Quick question, I was looking for the "download backup" service for zha to automate away the backups. Does anyone know the name of this service? ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

molten linden
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Since 2022.8 backups have been running automatically in the background. The backup is saved in a field in the zigbee.db 2022.9 added the download/upload and migration flow.

crimson tinsel
meager abyss
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ฤฑ am just using zigbee2mqtt

sour shadow
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Worth checking

thorn gulch
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Just checked as well, it is there, thanks for the quick reply

last parrot
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Does anyone have a recommendation for a ZB device to automate a ceiling fan? Mainly looking to make the light kit smart.

sterile sleet
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z2m craps out if mqtt broker is not running. (Does not recover when broker gets back online) Is this just me?

crimson tinsel
sour shadow
hasty prairie
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I put an aqara sensor in my basement yesterday and it's gone ๐Ÿ˜

I think a mouse stole it.

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I'm so bitter. it said unavailable so I went to go check on it and it's not there or anywhere in the vicinity. my wife remembers seeing it there last night too.

ashen coral
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Does it still report?

hasty prairie
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nope

prisma bluff
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Any kids playing with it? ๐Ÿ™‚

spiral cypress
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Is it possible to migrate from ZHA to zigbee2mqtt without having to repair every device? i.e. just filling in the pan id and network key and having everything be there right away?

sour shadow
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I'm pretty sure there's no way of doing that, in theory it should be possible to write a converter to allow it (either way), but I doubt it's trivial

ripe wigeon
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fixed itself I guess ๐Ÿ˜›

zenith fiber
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This is a pretty old message. but did you find anything on this? I just picked up one of these devices myself and while I see a C/F setting on Z2M, it doesn't seem to have any effect.

violet magnet
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blech, looks like I can't put a screenshot in here

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in ZHA, you go to the device, hit the three dots for advanced stuff, hit Manage Clusters -> Clusters drop down -> UserInterface -> Attributes drop down -> temperature_display_mode

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display mode 0 is metric, 1 is imperial

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and the thermostats persist that value internally so you only need to set it again if you do a full factory reset

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I believe all the Zigbee messages are still celsius even if the display is Fahrenheit, but ZHA/Z2M probably already know that

violet magnet
zenith fiber
strong loom
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Is there a recommended guide for someone just starting and looking to integrate zigbee2mqtt with HA?
I have HA, zigbee2mqtt and Mqtt docker containers up and running. I'm just curious on what is the suggested method of configuring and setting them up and also any suggestions on common issues or how to avoid/troubleshoot them.

sour shadow
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Is there a recommended guide for someone

shy summit
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Can someone recommend me a door/window sensor using Zigbee? I would like to replace my HMIP (optical) sensors. I would like to use recharable AA / AAA batteries.

sour shadow
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Using CR1632 for a 2 to 5 year battery life, buy Xiaomi Aqara

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The Terncy ones use the same battery and are slightly smaller, not sure what the battery life on those is, but years seems likely so far

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I have both the original and E1 versions of the Aqara, been pretty happy with them and the Terncy. Not been happy with the Konke ones, they're all getting removed.

shy summit
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Thanks

jolly narwhal
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My most trafficked door gave me 2.5 years of battery life

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With aqara round sensor

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And since those came without a battery blocking plastic, who knows how long it would have lasted

last parrot
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They have a ton of options depending on your needs

dusty canopy
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General question: Is zigbee2mqtt so much slower than zha ?

glad plume
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Hello! I would like to get some help with Zigbee WiFI interfering.

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I have WiFi on channel 1 and Zigbee on channel 15 by deafult. I tried to disable 40mhz on router, also tried to change to WiFi channel 2 or 6.

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I tried to change Zigbee channel change from 15 to 20 but this is not working, I wrote in yaml as the documentation says, and I tried to reset a few times my Zigbee Coordinator what is a Xiaomi multimode gateway3 with AlexxIT firmware.

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here im stucked and cannot find any other chance to solve it, the interference is so big, I cannot add new WiFI devices and connecting with phone takes a lifetime and the area of the WiFi became 10 times smaller.

young dew
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anyone have tips on the ikea tradfri E1810 remote? i can reset it and get it to pair, but i cant get it to ota update, bind, or anything else. I've tried hitting a button before all of these to no success, tried close and far from my adapter. it was working for quite a while, the only change is i upgraded the firmware in my zzh for touchlink device bugfixes.

silver sierra
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I was looking at the ZHA documentation for OTA updates, and it says that it does it automatically for enabled configurations, but I donโ€™t see information on how often it checks / updates. Does anyone here know that information?

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Or do you need to add an automation?

mighty river
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Hello. I have some issues with a zigbee plug (several devices) that has changed model number at some point. (old devices work fine new ones have some issues). Where can I repport this issue? Was thinking of creating one at https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues

austere patio
restive tartan
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Someone uses a kwikset convert lock, and experiences terrible battery drain? I've burned down 12 AA in 14 days

warm finch
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I'm trying out the new restore feature of ZHA to migrate from a cheap cc2531 stick to a sonoff with EFR32MG21 chip. I'm getting an unknown error when trying to restore. Is this a known problem or some undocumented limitation?

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... self.async_step_maybe_confirm_ezsp_restore()
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/config_flow.py", line 495, in async_step_maybe_confirm_ezsp_restore
    await self._restore_backup(temp_backup, create_new=False)
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/zha/config_flow.py", line 173, in _restore_backup
    await app.backups.restore_backup(backup, **kwargs)
TypeError: BackupManager.restore_backup() got an unexpected keyword argument 'create_new'
austere patio
fair hatch
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hello, I have issue re-pairing my aqara d1 wired with neutral wire switches with ZHA. everything was working well before a power outrage. Only 2 switches can't be re-paired, the rest were re-paired and functioning well. Whenever I tried to pair them, they will be stuck with Starting Interview forever. I noticed the switch will just turn off while pairing. I tried to pressing the switch repeatedly to keep it turn on but it did not seem to respond.

I have tried:
USB Extension Cable
Upgrade to the latest version
Downgrading HA
Clean HA installation

I m not sure if i am missing something. Someone with any ideas, please share it with me as i am out of idea how to resolve the issue

worldly apex
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Hello all. I have an issue I cant seem to figure out in trying to install zigbee2mqtt on a synology nas using SSH. I am trying to install via SSH and I am getting a docker error "Bad mode specified: 6638"

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The command for the setup I am using is as follows:
sudo docker run -itd --name="Zigbee2MQTT" --net=host -e TZ=America/new_york --device=tcp://10.0.0.101:6638 --restart=always -v /volume1/docker/zigbee2mqtt/data:/app/data koenkk/zigbee2mqtt:latest

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Does anyone have experience with this and have a clue what that error could be? Googled it and could not get a clear description

austere patio
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What is --device=tcp://10.0.0.101:6638? Are you using a TCP coordinator? If so, you probably don't need to specify it in the docker command line.

worldly apex
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Ahh maybe that is the issue

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Yea, it is a device from Tube

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It works with with ZHA but I am looking to try Z2M

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So, just leave the device open and try it? I can do that a bit later. At a baseball game right now. Appreciate the advice puddly!

austere patio
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Yeah, just remove --device=...

worldly apex
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Sounds good. I will try this when I get home. Truly appreciate the support.

molten linden
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yup, no need to pass a device through if not serial. just device the tcp:// in the z2m config.

worldly apex
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Just a FYI... to all. Looks like that worked Puddly & Tube, thanks for the support! Its installing now.

remote burrow
dense pilot
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Hi,
I have troubles with Sonoff Motion Sensor SNZB-03. I can connect it to ZHA, but it does not detect any motion. I tried a second one but with same results. I have changed the battery but with no effect. 99% of the existing 47 Zigbee devices run normally.
Does anybody can give me a hint how to debug that.

sour shadow
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Ditch it, buy something that's not Sonoff?

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Others have also complained about it

dense pilot
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I already have a Aqara motion sensor, it detect but only 2 cm's away

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3 new sensors, non of them are working correct

sour shadow
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My OG Aqara motion sensors are good for a few meters, and the P1 seems similar. For range though it's hard to beat the Linkind

dense pilot
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I have 9 Aqara motion sensors since 1 year, never had a problem

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Are sonoff devices known to make problems with ZHA?

sour shadow
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Sonoff devices are known to be pretty jank regardless

dense pilot
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@sour shadow What coordinator would you recommend. I have a conbee 2 and I heard that this stick also often cause issues.

sour shadow
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Anything CC2652 based

royal houndBOT
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Buy something CC2652 based. This list is a good one, both Tube and Electrolama have been proven to have excellent customer service. The current generation of EZSP sticks (see here for some) are also a good choice for ZHA.

Anything CC2530 or CC2531 based should be avoided - they're old, slow, and only suitable for a dozen or so devices. The Sonoff ZBbridge isn't advised since it uses WiFi (built in interference causing stability/reliability issues), and the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset so should be avoided.

Finally, the ConBee range are fine with deCONZ, but experience with ZHA and Zigbee2MQTT appears to be mixed.

Command '~pickyourstick' was invoked by: Tinkerer
dense pilot
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@sour shadow Did you ever had a Aqara motion with only 2 cm detection range? Would you consider the device as broken or are there some settings for that in the cluster?

sour shadow
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That sounds broken, like broken hardware

royal houndBOT
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@dense pilot Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.

When using Discord's new Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

Command '~irc' was invoked by: Tinkerer
sour shadow
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All of mine have a working range of over 2m

dense pilot
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Thanks for the info. I will send the sonoff devices back a get some new aqara sensors.

sour shadow
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The FP1 is awesome, being mmWave it will keep detecting you after a standard PIR reports no motion, but they are a bit slower than a PIR to detect you entering its view

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It also costs more

royal houndBOT
tawdry crown
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hey all! I'm running on a Raspbee, switched over from deconz to zha about two months ago. I just added my 34th device- mostly mains connected wall switches from Zemismart. I'm worried I hit some max device limit because it's not really managing to pair and stay working.

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I tried setting source_routing: true and adding via device but I'm not sure if this is really supported with a deconz radio. Does anyone know? Do I need to switch to a better supported coordinator?

tawdry crown
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Some additional info- I say 34 devices b/c that's what HA is showing me in the integration for device count but it's probably the 33rd with the coordinator being counted as one so 32 working and the 33rd not. I've tried different hardware of the same chipset and of a different chipset. It doesn't seem to make a difference :/

barren moat
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I have a Tuya Zigbee 2 gang relay (QS-Zigbee-CP02). Its connected over ZHA. It reports 2 light entities. I have connected 1 light and 1 fan on it. The light operates fine. But once the fan is turned off, it becomes unresponsive. It can be turned back on using the physical switch.

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reconfiguration fails: TuyaZBOnOffAttributeCluster with cross in "binding". Attribute on_off [x] and min/max/change: 0/900/1

tawdry crown
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@barren moat If you remove the device and repair it, the same behavior is repeatable? Does it only happen when you've turned off the fan, or does it become unresponsive if you just give it some time as well?

silver stump
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Hey there,
I am having a really hard time with zhh, zha, and tradfri switches.
I can pair them without a problem, but after pairing there is no event related to them in nodered (event node, filtered down to zha_event with debug node)

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also switches don't respond to identify button.

barren moat
tawdry crown
tawdry crown
barren moat
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But the nearest router (sonoff relay) is in the next room.

tawdry crown
# barren moat But the nearest router (sonoff relay) is in the next room.

I would think that the next room (depending on the separating wall) would be fine for the closest router. Under the zigbee info section for the device you should see a value for LQI and RSSI. If those are good, LQI > 150 and RSSI > -67, you should be fine rangewise.

I have one switch working inside a literal bomb shelter and it gets 167 LQI and -70 RSSI.

barren moat
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LQI and RSSI are reported as unknown

austere patio
glad plume
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Anyone ever changed sucessfully zigbee channel with ZHA + Xiaomi Gateway3? Thanks!

austere patio
glad plume
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Hmm interesting

tawdry crown
tawdry crown
raw lynx
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anyone here running Z2m with zwave as well as zigbee?

anyone experienced issues where loading z2m causes HA to slow down an eventually crash and become unresponsive

sour shadow
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By Z2M you mean Zigbee2MQTT, and not Zwave2MQTT?

raw lynx
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correct

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zb2m

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is that the correct shorthand? ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
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There shouldn't be a problem, as long as you're not running on something like a Pi3 or below

raw lynx
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weird, i can't get mine to run without HA crashing

sour shadow
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What are you running on?

raw lynx
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i have to uninstall the addon / sotp it so i can get back into my dashboard

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ESXI host

8 cpus's 8Gb ram, 150Gb SSD

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overkill

sour shadow
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I'd not say overkill, but it shouldn't be a problem

raw lynx
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you can run Zigbee2MQTT and Zwave2MQTT a the same time right?

sour shadow
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Sure

raw lynx
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is that a sure as in yess or a sure as in, i don't know lol

sour shadow
raw lynx
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is there any considerations to be taken when utilizing them both?

sour shadow
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The only problem is, as far as I know, on the #zwave-archived side - since you really want to avoid using MQTT for Z-Wave JS

raw lynx
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wait what, i was told to ONLY use mqtt for z-wave JS when did we roll back?

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or i should at least say the gui

sour shadow
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Ah, yes, the GUI isn't MQTT though

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You want to use the socket for ZWaveJS

raw lynx
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ah gotcha i was paniced for a second there lol

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yeah i'm using it for gui only and not actually mqtt

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which is what i'd want to do the same with for zigbee2mqtt but idk if it has similar layouts

sour shadow
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Well, Zigbee2MQTT only uses MQTT for communicating

dry lichen
sour shadow
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The part where I said not overkill, or the part where I said not overkill?

dry lichen
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Yes.

raw lynx
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so if i'm just looking for a better gui it's not worth going to mqtt?

sour shadow
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Here we can tell you about Zigbee2MQTT

raw lynx
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right, is there an advantage of going to zigbee2mqtt? like what's the main draw

sour shadow
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Over?

raw lynx
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cuz for zwave it was the gui which everyone said

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over the exsisting zigbee integration

sour shadow
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That's like asking whether tea or coffee is the better drink... the answer is personal

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Some people like putting all their eggs in one basket, some like separation

royal houndBOT
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There are three Zigbee options with Home Assistant (regardless of how you install it). These are:

zha is actively developed as part of Home Assistant Core, using the zigpy stack, the UI also being part of Home Assistant. The EmberZNet based sticks are recommended (though the HUSBZB-1 uses an older chipset), but there are other options including the CC2652 based sticks. There is no list of supported devices, as any standards compliant device should work. Devices that require extra support are listed, and adding unsupported devices is documented.

Zigbee2MQTT is very actively developed and can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, and natively. As of 1.15 has a native UI, and it also uses MQTT for control and configuration. It supports mostly TI based sticks, with the recommended option being the [CC2652 based sticks](#zigbee-archived message). If you want to use an EmberZNet stick see this issue. The known working devices are well documented (which usually includes how to pair them so you don't have to find the manual), and adding unsupported devices is also documented.

deCONZ is relatively stable and mature with its own UI (and Discord server). It can run in an add-on, in a Docker container, or natively. Only the ConBee range of sticks and RaspBee GPIO boards are supported. Known working devices are documented, and how to request support for a new device is documented too (you can't add unsupported devices yourself).

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sour shadow
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That kind a summarises it โ˜๏ธ

quartz cipher
raw lynx
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thanks

quartz cipher
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Besides being able to do more devices then one, does it amplify a signal drastically further?

sour shadow
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Some smart plugs are shitty routers, with a weak signal

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Some are great routers, with a great signal

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It really depends on which plugs you're comparing against

quartz cipher
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And you have that secret list in your pocket to share? ๐Ÿ˜„

sour shadow
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I have a great list of UK products

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There's more countries in this world...

quartz cipher
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I only have two plugs, Sonoff and sengled

sour shadow
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Sonoff nauseated

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Innr plugs are pretty solid routers, I don't know if they exist in your style, since you haven't said which country you're in

quartz cipher
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USA - all i care about is zigbee+15A@120V

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Sooooo ~1600W

raw lynx
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you can also do your own antenna, just find the wavelength, half it, cut it out of some copper wire, and then tape it to the side of the device, won't do A LOT but it will help some

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for zigbee 2.4ghz it should be about 2.5cm

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sorry 1/4 the wavelength

dry lichen
raw lynx
dry lichen
raw lynx
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oh yeah do what you gotta do, that's how i justify buying more zigbee / zwave shit ๐Ÿ˜„ i'm "strengthening" my network"!

unkempt cove
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I seem to have broken Zigbee with a move from a Sonoff USB stick to a TubesZB CC2652 PoE coordinator. I did the migration but none of my devices have reconnected. (Wanted to do this to allow me to move HA to a docker container and relocate the coordinator to somewhere more central in the house). Looks like a channel change (11 to 15 I think). I've waited almost 24hrs, but any tips? I don't have many devices in my yet (4 as I'm just figuring out the reach/rf side).

(the TubesZB shows a serial connection as being "on" with its web page, it's currently similar place to the Sonoff so I could check most devices connect. I realise I need something as a router as well to solve some RF challenges).

violet dagger
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Repair them

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Router is needed if they're far away from the stick and the signal is borderline

unkempt cove
# violet dagger Router is needed if they're far away from the stick and the signal is borderline

yeah - I've got 3 that were fine with Sonoff and they're not connected and I've initially put the TubesZB device pretty much next to where that was to ensure its fine.

With Repair - specifically what do you mean? I've tried "Reconfigure" but that fails "The device reconfiguration failed. Additional information may be available in the logs."

The device I'm testing to make work is <3m from the coordinator and has no WIFI access point nearby.

molten linden
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if the channel changed, it didn't migrate the settings, and you will need to repair the devices. repair means permit joining/add a device and then put then reset the device and put it in pairing mode

unkempt cove
austere patio
unkempt cove
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ZHA - I did the manual config of it as per TubesZB github

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if the devices are there, do I delete and start again or just get them to rejoin?

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(don't really want to lose the data)

molten linden
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you may still have a valid backup in your zigbee.db that could be used to restore. Are you on 2022.9 of HA? puddly will know if this is possible as he made all that migration stuff ๐Ÿ˜‰

austere patio
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If not, can you PM me your /config/zigbee.db file?

graceful elm
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I'm a little rusty here, what logging do I need to enable to see all incoming and outgoing traffic?

austere patio
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What integration are you using?

graceful elm
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zha, Currently have logs: homeassistant.components.zha: debug zhaquirks.xbee: debug zigpy: debug zigpy_znp: debug

austere patio
graceful elm
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No difference, still seems to be dropping unrecognized traffic silently

austere patio
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What radio are you using?

graceful elm
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TI, it's a Tube POE model, using the znp library

austere patio
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Hmm. What gives you the impression traffic is being dropped silently? I'm not aware of any limitations unless possibly a device is sending data to unregistered endpoints.

graceful elm
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I'm looking at moving away from a xbee coordinator, testing with the TI coordinator and an xbee3, it recognizes it, but states aren't updated nor do the switches update the pin state

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get a no response error when attempting to set a pin state and the xbee is configured to send updates on pin states once a second

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nothing in the logs though

austere patio
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That's an interesting combination. You're the first person I've encountered using an XBee either as an end device or as a coordinator ๐Ÿ˜†

graceful elm
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Yeah, I have ton of xbees that are built into custom devices, but the xbee coordinator is really starting to be an issue

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I don't have them handy, but wouldn't be hard to put the production system into debug logging

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I did join this specific xbee to the production system that uses an xbee coordinator and everything worked, so the firmware and settings are correct

unkempt cove
austere patio
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The only difference is the endpoints, from what I can tell. ZNP does not receive traffic if it's not on a registered endpoint. Zigpy's current endpoint list is here: https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/blob/6162503b5e642e1ffa1cbcacf51c3215ee4a22aa/zigpy/application.py#L503-L540. The debug logs from the XBee coordinator communicating with your device will contain the endpoint the device is sending traffic to. It should be 1 or 2 if the device is normal, but it could be the device is ignoring the source endpoint and erroneously sending traffic "elsewhere".

austere patio
unkempt cove
austere patio
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TI -> TI migration is well tested, should work fine. But send the DB over, maybe there's a bug.

graceful elm
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Yeah, Remote AT commands are always going to be 0xE6, so that would make sense

austere patio
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So even if the coordinator sends it from endpoint 1, the XBee sends its reply back to 0xE6?

graceful elm
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I think so, digging through logs now, looking at zigpy_znp.uart, looks like they log the raw data as a NOTSET level

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going to try that real quick and see if I can see it come in

austere patio
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There's nothing at DEBUG - 5 that won't show up at DEBUG

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It just logs raw UART traffic and request/response matching. All UART traffic is parsed into Z-Stack requests/responses, which will always be in the debug log.

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It's hidden in HA because there's no way to specify numeric or nonstandard debug levels: zigpy_znp.logger: DEBUG. But it won't contain anything new.

graceful elm
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Yeah, that didn't work, lol

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Let me add some logging directly to the module

austere patio
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Depending on how you're running HA, try adding a new endpoint by editing the file I linked to above. It may be enough: https://dpaste.org/dFA3G

graceful elm
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I'll give that a shot, good thought, haos doesn't make it super easy to make changes, but will work for testing

austere patio
graceful elm
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Thanks, I've got ssh access going now, so should be good

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What do you know, that fixed reading the pin state

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Commands still aren't working, but that's huge progress

shrewd laurel
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Hey folks, I've bashed my head against this for over a week and I'm still no closer to solving this.

I have HAOS running virtualized on proxmox. I installed a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 stick and passed it through as a USB 2.0 device (not 3). I bought an Aqara Temperature & Humidity Sensor.

I tried to setup Z2M and tried to pair it to the sensor. Absolutely no luck. At some point it detected a device and tried to interview it but interview failed. I have to constantly press the pair button for it to even get to that state.

So I switched to ZHA. It finally paired it but it detected it as a LUMI temp and pressure sensor. But after the initial sensor report, it never updates! Which is pretty useless for a temperature sensor.

What am I doing wrong? This was pretty highly reviewed sensor so I'm kind of stumped.

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Ps: I switched to usb2 because with a usb3 passthrough even the init pairing with ZHA didn't work

austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB 2.0 extension cable?

shrewd laurel
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No it's usb3. But proxmox passes it through as a usb2 device

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It's weird that I would need to be usb2 when the Sonoff is advertised as a usb3 device though

grim igloo
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We use 2 and extension cable to minimize interference from USB 3 ports

austere patio
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It can be decades-old USB 1.0 and still work fine, the amount of data passing through the coordinator is minuscule. Try it with a USB 2.0 extension cable.

shrewd laurel
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Would that also be the cause of it not auto-updating?

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Unfortunately it's pretty late here and I seem to not have any spare usb2 extensions. Anything else I can try until then? Or is it just this?

austere patio
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Nope, just the 2.0 extension cable. Sensors send updates to your coordinator so if you're not seeing them, your coordinator is likely experiencing interference from whatever else is around.

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Or the Aqara device shipped with a very old battery

shrewd laurel
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The battery shows as 84% and the interesting thing is that when I press the pair button (but not hold it down to pair), it actually gets an update

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Almost feels like a push instead of poll model. Which is dumb for a temp sensor

austere patio
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The percentage for Aqara devices is inaccurate and will probably never change. All Zigbee sensors operate on a "push" model, it's what lets them run for years off of a single coin cell.

shrewd laurel
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Wait! I take that back, it worked!

I put the sensor in the freezer for a couple of minutes and it updated

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I think it never sends an update if the temp differential is really low

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I dropped it from 83degF to 38F and it reported

austere patio
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Yeah, if the temperature doesn't change it will only send an update every ~40 minutes

shrewd laurel
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Now if only I can figure out why it setup real easy with ZHA but not Z2Mqtt

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I deleted the integration from ZHA before switching. So it shouldn't be a problem with interference right?

austere patio
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If you first tried Z2M and did not erase the Zigbee network on the stick when setting up ZHA, there will be no difference between the two, so it's probably interference

shrewd laurel
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Definitely a possibility. How would I delete the network and just reset to 0 before trying Z2M again?

austere patio
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Z2M does that on its own

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ZHA requires you to click things to erase the network settings and form a new network

shrewd laurel
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So I I just delete the integration, start the Z2M add-on, it should be reset?

austere patio
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I believe so

shrewd laurel
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Ok let me try that. Otherwise I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get a USB 2 hub

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Btw is the same issue with a usb2 exist with zwave? Ie do I need to buy two extensions?

austere patio
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Z-Wave I believe operates on 900-something MHz, not 2.4GHz. But it won't hurt to put it on a USB extension cable, the worst that will happen is that your network range improves.

shrewd laurel
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Gotcha. Thanks for all your help!

steady shale
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Ugh, ordered a ZBDongle-P but received an -E ๐Ÿ˜ข

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Gave it a run anyway, itโ€™s mostly okay except one switch keeps needing to re-pair to do anything after an hour or so

austere patio
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Which switch is this?

steady shale
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My Nue and Gledopto devices seem to be behaving

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That's pretty funny, I also changed from a CC2531 like that user

grim igloo
barren moat
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The network visualisation in ZHA says that this (Non-functional tuya relay) is connected to the functional sonoff relay. The line connecting them has 45 on it. The Sonoff is connected to the coordinator with 55 on the line.

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The tuya relay is now completely unresponsive. But it registers state change when the physical switch is flicked.

tawdry crown
low rock
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Anyone in here using the single button from SilverCrest/Lidl with zigbee2mqtt?
Do you get any values other than on/off?

barren moat
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I am not sure how to Quirk๐Ÿ˜ฌ! Will work it next weekend.

royal houndBOT
misty jay
torn rune
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Hey guys, i'm trying to get my head around everything here

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can ANY Zigbee device sync to any Zigbee hub/gateway

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and ANY zigbee device can be Zigbee2MQTT?

sour shadow
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Pretty much

torn rune
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I tthink i found one thats suitable for Australia

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yepeeee

sour shadow
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As long as it's not Tuya

torn rune
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Haha

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Nah its Stichy by M-Elec

sour shadow
torn rune
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I'll buy a Zigbee gateway thingo for my NUC asap and i can pick up one of these from a local wholesaler and start having a play

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Now i need somthign that can do a dry contactor input into HA

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Also whats the issue with Tuya?

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they trash?

sour shadow
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Yes

torn rune
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dang. i THINK this is a rebranded Tuya

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so much cheper

sour shadow
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Tuya is a brand name slapped on devices from a huge range of manufacturers, some are good, some are shitty, all tend to play pretty loose with the Zigbee spec. Oh, and you'll find the same model number re-used for 8 completely unrelated things.

torn rune
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not the brand i mentioned beofre

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oh wow thats no good

sour shadow
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As long as you do your research up front you should be ok

torn rune
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soo much research. got a few product lines ready to rokc which say 'zigbee' certified

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from major australian companies

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ill buy some and try em out

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One thing i'm struggling with is a binary sensory, similiar to 'fibaro smart implant' but in the Zigbee world

crimson dust
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Ok will try make a shorter message ๐Ÿ˜…

Anyway, is there any known bugs with Conbee2 and ZHA making the built in light group not working properly?
This happens each day when my lights goes off:
https://paste.debian.net/1253583/
One light (diffrent each day) turns of several minutes after the rest of the lights!

formal olive
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Hi guys..

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recently add more zigbee in single room..

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however during this pass 3 days.. my IKEA Bulb become unavailable with red link on ZHA

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any ideas?

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I add 1 additional zigbee plugs by tuya if I'm not mistaken

tall pike
tropic depot
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some of the Tuya stuff has routing issues

crimson dust
tall pike
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Are these lights outside your house?

crimson dust
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yepp!

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But they are 7 so I guess the mesh network should be good enough?

tall pike
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So the ZigBee signal may not be penetrating your walls well.

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Or there could be something outside your house that is also transmitting radio waves at the ZigBee frequency.

crimson dust
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Oh ok well that would explain it

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I have a few smartplugs inside as well so the mesh network should be good?

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Some say all problems they has was gone when they went over to SonOff 3.0 + zigbee2mqtt so maybe go try that setup? ๐Ÿ˜›

tall pike
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Interference is one possible reason. But it may not be the correct reason.

#

Do you control these lights only via HA and the conbee?

crimson dust
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only ha

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I guess I just make the automation to wait 5 sec and then fire LIGHT ON again? ๐Ÿ˜›

tall pike
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Ok. I'd suggest you try to target some interior lights with the same automation. That can give some indication of whether your automation logic is correct at least.

dry shadow
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FYI - I purchased a number of Seedan smartplugs from Amazon. For the most part they are great... however out of 12 of them, one was dead out of the box, and 3 were returned due to them dropping of the network at odd times. None of the other Zigbee devices drop off so I cannot blame interference. Out of the 4 that drop off, three of them would not reconnect when "rebooted".

tall pike
crimson dust
formal olive
formal olive
tall pike
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Hmm...did you add a wifi ap or something near that bulb?

tropic depot
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with the plug completely removed?

tall pike
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Is it just that specific bulb that keeps dropping off?

tropic depot
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no other changes?

formal olive
formal olive
tropic depot
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are you keeping the plug out

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or removing it and putting it back?

formal olive
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can it be that my bulb zigbee broken? or dying?

tropic depot
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unlikely

formal olive
tropic depot
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right the entire time right?

formal olive
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even restart my HA for the good sake

tall pike
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One way to troubleshoot to make sure it's not a hardware issue with the bulb, is to swap that bulb with another one that you know is working properly. See if the problematic bulb behaves properly in its new position, and if the ok bulb starts dropping off.

formal olive
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btw just wondering how could I build a good mesh out of zigbee? I mean which device should connect or it will do it automatically?

tall pike
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I had similar issues before with very far bulbs in my mesh. In the end the issue was interference from wifi (from an AP I added and from neighbours). Changing the ZigBee channel has solved the issues so far.

formal olive
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how do you change the channel on ZHA?

tall pike
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But changing channels is a big move, so best to rule out less drastic options first.

formal olive
tall pike
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Are you on 2022.9? What I did was download a backup of the coordinator in ZHA, then open up that JSON file, edit the channel listed there, then use the new Migrate Radio function to upload the modified JSON to the coordinator.

formal olive
tall pike
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After that I had to re-pair all the devices.

formal olive
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heem.. repair all?

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ouch.. hahahahahahahah

tall pike
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Before you do that, do an energy scan to find a quiet channel.

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Yup...like I said, it's drastic. Not worth it to fix one bulb.

formal olive
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but again.. the interference is not from the wifi since nothing being changes for a long time.. accept replacing my wifi plug with zigbee plug which should be creating a better environment for it right?

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replacing 4 wifi plugs with 4 zigbee plugs

tall pike
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Yup. But on the other hand...maybe a neighbour's wifi is interfering. If you live in an apartment.

formal olive
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one plug which is actually on the same room getting a strong signal so its very strange that the bulb is actually losing signal

icy pollen
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Can I connect multiple ZigBee coordinators( I use sonoff ZigBee bridge tasmota) to zha or zigbee2mqtt?

austere patio
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ZHA, no. Z2M requires multiple independent instances.

sour shadow
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Generally speaking multiple overlapping meshes is a bad idea, not so bad if one's in a remote building

whole thunder
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Using ZHA on a supervised installation, adding a Hue Remote and can see the events in the logbook but the zha_event is not shown. What aim i missing?

wooden delta
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Hey, I'm using ZHA with HAOS. I've recently got BlitzWolf SHP-15 Plugs. Those Plugs have a physical button which when pressed turns the plug on or off.
This switching action isn't shown in the corresponsing switch entity. Has anybody a idea why and how to fix this?

austere patio
wooden delta
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HOw do I do that? Sorry, I'm not very advanced in Zigbee/ZHA things

austere patio
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In the device page, there is a dropdown that will have a "Reconfigure Device" option

wooden delta
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sadly, this didn't fix the problem

austere patio
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What does the dialog show for the device's reporting configuration?

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It's possible the plug just doesn't report changes

wooden delta
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also, wattage measurement updates, which according to the should be coming in one second intervalls (according to the manufacturer and a good friend of mine who also has some of those) only show up every like 90 seconds

austere patio
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If it's a standards-compliant device, there is usually no fixed reporting interval, the integration sets up reporting with a minimum/maximum time between reports, and then a minimum change value.

wooden delta
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is there a way to change this interval?

austere patio
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Not really but it's not a fixed interval. If watts changes by more than 1 watt, the device will report a change, but no more than once every 5 seconds (or at least once every 15 minutes).

wooden delta
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I see

wooden delta
bleak spruce
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ehh, some zigbee devices are no longer working (zigbee2mqtt). They're still shown as available in HA + z2m. What to do?

midnight forum
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Anyone know of a good zigbee or zwave coordinator that can connect to HA via Ethernet? Found the Tubezb which looks great but has a 1-4 week shipping time and $50 shipping fee

sour shadow
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The Z2M adapters page lists a few good Zigbee options

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AFAIK there's no Z-Wave options like that

molten linden
dry lichen
grim igloo
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if would be nice if we could make our own with open source firmware and an esp32, 3d printed case, and w/e else needed

austere patio
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You can make one easily with a Pi

grim igloo
austere patio
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I think Z2M has instructions for setting up ser2net or socat.

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You just plug in a USB stick and expose it over LAN

grim igloo
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and assuming the network is fast then there's no noticeable latency increase vs a usb controller directly on the pi/vm/etc running hass?

austere patio
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Maybe a millisecond but you won't notice it

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Only downside is that you have to make sure ser2net starts on startup and that your pi will always boot up properly. ESP32 is less stateful and boots up more quickly.

grim igloo
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Yea that makes sense

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It would work fine even on an older pi zero with a usb to eth dongle right?

molten linden
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I also have the source files for my stuff up on github, no real secrets.

grim igloo
molten linden
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yes

grim igloo
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Nice

molten linden
grim igloo
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Thanks

molten linden
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I might be missing a BOM here or there, but the components are pretty much the same across all the boards so can be pieced together. hence no secrets ๐Ÿ˜‰

grim igloo
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Iโ€™m not quite ready to start building my own boards yet. Iโ€™ve watched a few videos and it doesnโ€™t seem too scary though. I suggest hardware to folks so itโ€™s nice to know there is a couple diy options along with what I already knew ๐Ÿ™‚

bronze rivet
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Flashed a Sonoff 3 stick with the router firmware using cc2538-bsl.py. Flash seems to go OK, verification at the end of the process passes. However, I can't seem to pair it after that. Is there any way to determine which firmware is on the stick? The -v CRC verification method comes back with a different CRC each time I plug it in, so I'm guessing something is getting incremented or is otherwise changing with each insertion that makes those CRC useful for validation while it is inserted. Any ideas?

cobalt dew
icy pollen
austere patio
tawdry crown
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Is it possible to change the manufacturer name in a quirk? I have a device which has " " as the manufacturer and it plays havoc with my OCD ๐Ÿ˜‰
I tried changing the MODELS_INFO but it doesn't seem to have worked.

violet dagger
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manufacturer name is supplied by the device firmware, no changing

sour shadow
calm falcon
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HI Guys apologies if i am in the wrong area but if so would appreciate if you could direct me to a better area. I have Zigbee ZHA on a Sonoff flashed with Tasmota.
Having an issue with the IKEA 5 button remote eating batteries i thought it was my unit but having researched i see endless forums with same issue but cannot see any definitive explanation or if it has been fixed. I have no doubt it has been mentioned on this server

errant quail
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Hi! Iโ€™m trying to add a few zigbee groups in ZHA, and Iโ€™m seeing something strange. If I only assign one member in a group, that group isnโ€™t exposed as an entity. Adding at least two, exposes the entity of the group as expected. Is this behavior expected, or is it a bug?

mellow geode
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Itโ€™s currently expected/intentional, although Iโ€˜d also prefer it to create the entity when at least one member is in the group (and this "issue" has come up before here)
(Mostly due to testing lol)

pine swan
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My ZHA install seems to be developing a new behaviour now it's growing big. If I add a new device now, it interviews and configures then stops working shortly afterwards. The new end device shows up in the visualisation as not being connected to anything else in the mesh. If I leave it alone, it generally starts working a day or so later and then shows up in the visualisation as having a parent. Is this a common behaviour or am I doing something wrong?

tropic depot
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there is no point in having an entity for a group w/ a single member

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the advantage to groups is the multicast messaging.... artificially increasing the amt of this is not good

tropic depot
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we do not want this

violet dagger
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but they do ๐Ÿ˜

errant quail
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sounds good, although the behavior is a bit unexpected from a user perspective. My personal reason for wanting this is that i essentially have two sets of lights per room, one that is alway on and one set that turns on when there is motion/occupancy. In some rooms, one of those sets only contain one light. Having one zigbee group for each of those per room would make things simpler.

mellow geode
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Perhaps HA (light) groups could work for that use-case?

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Or maybe even the area stuff

tropic depot
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how would a group make it simpler

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what is the difference between using the group entity or the regular entity from the user perspective?

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If I am reading this part correctly: "In some rooms, one of those sets only contain one light. Having one zigbee group for each of those per room would make things simpler. " what you are saying is having 2 entities that represent the same light is simpler? I don't understand how that can be the case?

grim igloo
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I came to the same conclusion you did

mellow geode
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I guess being able to add more lights later on without modifying automations/scripts

grim igloo
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you can already do that with lightgroups inside of home assistant

mellow geode
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Yeah, that's why I suggested using those

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However, I'd probably just use the single light entities in scripts/automations and modify those if necessary

errant quail
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Then I could have one automation to serve all rooms, and just use part of the name of the trigger to call the correct light group. It can of course be solved using HA light groups, but I would prefer using zigbee groups since that is usually more reliable when controlling a large set of lights.

grim igloo
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above you said for some groups they would only have one light

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i dont see how it would make a difference in that case

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i use zigbee groups then create lightgroups in hass from those zigbee groups

errant quail
grim igloo
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so for example in my kitchen: i have 7 cans, 3 chandelier candellabras, and a single bulb above the sink. so i have a zigbee group for the chandelier, a zigbee group for the cans, and then i take those and make lightgroups for what i need such as lightgroup for chand, for cans, and for all of the above including wifi led strips

errant quail
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Yes, I can use light groups, and thatโ€™s probably the way I will go after this discussion. It would have bee nice to use zigbee groups since almost all lights are zigbee

grim igloo
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you can declare variables inside automations

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that might be an option for you

# 
variables:
  lights:
    - light.upstairs_bathroom_lights_group
    - light.upstairs_bathroom_led
  led_strip: light.upstairs_bathroom_led
  motion: binary_sensor.upstairs_bathroom_sensor_motion
  door_sensor: sensor.upstairs_bathroom_door_sensor_access_control_door_state```
errant quail
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Iโ€™ll use light groups to solve the issue, no worries. ๐Ÿ™‚ I was just a bit surprised about the one light in group behavior in zha

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And thanks for the help and input!

tropic depot
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i mean you can still use the zigbee group (i wouldn't for this) there is a service to issue group commands that could be used

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not as easy as the entity but it would work

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just keep in mind that excessive multicast traffic can flood the network

bronze rivet
#

Still having problems flashing a Sonoff stick to the router firmware using cc2538-bsl.py. I tried macOS and a Pi with Raspian. On both hosts the CRC verification passed after the flash. One additional note is that setting the IEEE address doesn't appear to work, though there are no errors. Is there any special magic sauce I'm missing aside from the Sonoff boot arg? ./cc2538-bsl.py --ieee-address 00:12:34:56:78:90:AB:CD --bootloader-sonoff-usb -evw -p /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/CC1352P2_CC2652P_launchpad_router_20220125.hex

restive tartan
#

With the addition of the new Bluetooth features, did Someone started adding more Bluetooth devices to HA and noticed link quality ascillating in their mesh?

violet jolt
#

Hey guys - I've unfortunately had to restore zigbee2mqtt from a backup, and it's set up now. However I cant get Homeassistant to discover the devices as the same entities as before? They are all discovered as new devices which obviously breaks my automations and scripts and such. Any suggestions?

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The zigbee2mqtt installation has the same topic-names for MQTT and same settings for HA-integration

spring hatch
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Hi, out of the blue, all my ZP stuff like plugs started working very unreliable. it rarely works in the first try, it often takes three tries in home assistant to change a plug. Has anyone an idea? Other devices like Wi-Fi bulbs didnโ€™t changed, i think itโ€™s only zigbee. Iโ€™m using ZHA

mellow geode
#

Is your Zigbee dongle on an extension? Are Bluetooth devices/sticks nearby? Put a WiFi access point near your Zigbee dongle? Plugged in an SSD or other USB 3 devices near your dongle?

spring hatch
spring hatch
tawdry crown
spring hatch
mellow geode
#

Just means that the messages arenโ€™t sent correctly, so the devices canโ€™t be initialized on startup

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Did you try rebooting the NUC and possibly also replugging the Conbee (in a different USB port and/or put it somewhere else using an USB extension)?

spring hatch
#

I also activated debug logging, I'm a bit overwhelmed by the mass of logging. I think this might be some relevant lines:

2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Bus:Handling <Event call_service[L]: domain=switch, service=turn_on, service_data=entity_id=switch.schreibtischlampe>
2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x3091:1:0x0006] Sending request header: ZCLHeader(frame_control=FrameControl(frame_type=<FrameType.CLUSTER_COMMAND: 1>, is_manufacturer_specific=False, is_reply=0, disable_default_response=0, reserved=0, *is_cluster=True, *is_general=False), tsn=14, command_id=1, *is_reply=False)
2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy.zcl] [0x3091:1:0x0006] Sending request: on()
2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.zigbee.application] Sending Zigbee request with tsn 14 under 15 request id, data: b'010e01'
2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] Command Command.aps_data_request (18, 15, <DeconzSendDataFlags.NONE: 0>, <DeconzAddressEndpoint address_mode=2 address=0x3091 endpoint=1>, 260, 6, 1, b'\x01\x0e\x01', <DeconzTransmitOptions.USE_NWK_KEY_SECURITY: 2>, 0)
2022-09-14 08:57:08 DEBUG (MainThread) [zigpy_deconz.api] APS data request response: [2, <DeviceState.APSDE_DATA_REQUEST_SLOTS_AVAILABLE|2: 34>, 15]
storm crown
#

Aqara recently released the zigbee based Aqara Smart Radiator Thermostat E1. Is it possible it is a generic Chinese smart Thermostat that is also being sold under different brandnames for a few less dollars/euros/shekels? A brand name that popped up is Nedis.

violet dagger
#

it's possible, it's also possible the shell used is a typical one while the internal hardware is better/worse

mighty river
#

Hello everybody, i have problem with Roller "Aqura Roller Shade" "lumi.curtain.acn002", at now i have registered via ZHA working but showing incorect Temperature and no Battery status, i can change ZHA to Zigbee2MQTT and there is Battery status and correct Temperature, but i have other zigbee device and this is Incompatible....way is ZHA. my Roller has firmware 1419, there is newest but i cannot update FW via OTA from ZHA ๐Ÿ™‚ can somebody help me? probably OTA update will work or change some template to ZHA and Roller? Tom

silver stump
#

Hello there,
My setup: zhh stick (firmware is uptodate), zha integration, and some ikea tradfi devices.
I am having really hard time with tradfi devices in general mostly with remotes, lags, nonresponses etc etc. Wired ikea zigbee is okay the blitzwolf zigbee plug works perfect.
Can you gave me a tip how can I improve?
Distence is not an issue I have one zigbee switch across the house, that works okay (80%) but what is next to the HA pi, is not. I live 36sqm so my place is not that big.

pine swan
# silver stump Hello there, My setup: zhh stick (firmware is uptodate), zha integration, and so...

I had terrible trouble with the two Tradfri dimmer remotes I got (https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/tradfri-wireless-dimmer-white-00468432/) with ZHA and a Sonoff v3 stick. They are unreliable, one particularly so (can't guarantee it's not faulty). Had trouble with non-responsiveness and one dropping off the system. I gave up and changed to Aqara D1 wireless remotes in the end. They've been flawless https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001084210410.html

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Quick thing to check with the Ikea ones. Try changing the batteries. One of mine came with a flat battery in the pack

silver stump
pine swan
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Has anyone else had trouble adding end-devices after their system got above 30-off devices? Mine keep dropping off the system after adding them. Sometimes they then come back

violet dagger
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Do you have a coordinator that can support more devices?

pine swan
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If I've understood correctly, it's the one they call the "P-dongle"

violet dagger
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you can update the firmware to a more recent one

pine swan
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How do I check it's really a P dongle and I haven't mis-identified it please? I don't want to brick it by flashing it with the wrong firmware

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Do I want to enable hardware flow control?

violet dagger
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there is usually a label on those things, or look at your invoice

pine swan
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Is it possible to identify it in software from HA? Physically pulling the dongle will be a pain

violet dagger
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how do you intend to flash it if you cannot pull it out?

molten linden
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20210708 is a known cc2652 fw build version.๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™‚๏ธ

pine swan
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Yeah. I'm almost positive it's a Dongle-P

sour shadow
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It says if it's a P on the case

silver stump
molten linden
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yes, I didn't say it was the latest

pine swan
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What's the difference between the R and RB firmware?

sour shadow
snow apex
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looks like i might have to finally add zigbee to my system as i really want to add some inexpensive door/window sensors to all my windows and thats a bunch lol

so im curious to know what is the preferred zigbee network to use as i see theres a couple like zigbee2mqtt, deconz, zigbee home automation

sour shadow
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Not deCONZ

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ZHA vs Zigbee2MQTT is much more a personal choice, both have advantages and there's a pinned message that summarises them. Neither is a bad choice.

snow apex
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i see that now!! maybe ill go zigbee2mqtt since they have that nice compatibilty list and the aqara door sensors are on there too so shouldnt have issues.

pine swan
snow apex
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ive used all z wave forever so nothing zigbee lol

pine swan
snow apex
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i dont think ill have very good house coverage. my server is upstairs in my office so worried downstairs sensors wont connect with out something to repeat off of

pine swan
snow apex
pine swan
snow apex
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i might just snag a couple door sensors and see how they work with out the repeater then decide

pine swan
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Only having one repeater is introducing a SPoF. The strength of a good mesh comes from having multiple paths for messages to make any trip so the failure of one device doesn't drop the whole setup

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The first rule of redundancy, "Two is one. One is none"

finite star
pine swan
finite star
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They ssem to be 4โ‚ฌ instead of 12

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Is it worth the difference?

pine swan
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That sounds too cheap

finite star
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Well on a Shop here in germany its 8.50โ‚ฌ vs 16.90โ‚ฌ

pine swan
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I just got a shipment from them. Delivery was 10 days

finite star
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Yeah bute they ask 16.18โ‚ฌ to germany

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amazon asks 16.90

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and they come with prime next day

restive tartan
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I think those are the old models tho. They should have released a zigbee 3.0 version too

finite star
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Ok

pine swan
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Be careful with very cheap deals that you're not buying the "Company's old crap" they're clearing because of the new model or counterfeits without realising it

restive tartan
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I mean, they work just fine. Maybe only issue would be if the router they are connected drop off the mesh, and the old ones are going to rarely rejoin the network under a different router

fair mountain
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I'd like some clarification regarding device limits on a CC2652P. Is there really a 200 device limit (according to Z-Stack, I also see it says 400 routes.) Is "routes" referring to every path to a particular device? Reason I ask is I'm at ~135 devices and keep adding them. I know that "direct children" can route for other devices.

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Or does it mean 600 devices in total?

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I also see a comment in https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/discussions/1568 that I shouldn't use more than 150 devices on a single coordinator. If that's the case, and I'm using ZHA, what is the best way to have a second coordinator? I can't run multiple instances oF ZHA ...

austere patio
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Are all 200 of your devices routers? I don't believe end devices joined to non-coordinator routers contribute at all.

fair mountain
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I think about 35 battery powered devices, the rest, 100, are mains powered routers.

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primarily Hue bulbs and Leviton zigbee switches

austere patio
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I also don't know what happens when you run out of space for routes. If it's not a hard crash, you may just end up with slower outgoing requests to devices with non-cached routes.

fair mountain
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Any guides on EmberZNet + zigbeed + HA? Not seeing anything with Google. Unless that's just a subtle nudge to use Tube's ZB coordinator ..

austere patio
pine swan
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If I update the firmware on my Coordinator stick is it likely to be seemless or will I stand a chance of losing my mesh and having to do it over?

solid basin
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i updated firmware on my sonoff stick a few days ago, mesh stayed the same

austere patio
pine swan
austere patio
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You're fine then, it'll restore from a backup. Assuming you're running 2022.9.0 or newer.

pine swan
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I think I'll leave this until Saturday. It's a hard week at work and Murphy's Law says that if I do it after dark, I'll end up with none of the lights in my home working

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Is this update likely to improve the situation with my end devices falling off the mesh now I got to 40?

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Thanks for your help

austere patio
pine swan
austere patio
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How many routers and end devices do you have?

pine swan
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1 ZC, 12 ZRs, 26 ZEDs

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The ZED count is about to rise to 36 but I stopped because nothing I'm adding seems to stay connected for more than an afternoon any more

austere patio
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What end devices? What kinds of routers?

pine swan
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Routers are all Ikea Tradfri Bulbs. Some Tradfri STYRBAR remotes, 6 Sonoff motion detectors, 2 Sonoff door contacts, 2 Ikea dimmer remotes (things started to go bad after I added those), 1 Aqara door sensor, 2 Aqara D1 2-key wireless remotes, 2 Sonoff press buttons, 1 Aqara press button, 2 Yagusmart Tuya scene remotes and a Moes Wireless handheld scene remote

austere patio
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Which devices don't stay connected? Aqara + IKEA works just fine for me.

pine swan
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I missed the 2 Sonoff thermometers and 1 Aqara thermometer

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Currently fallen off the network are: the Aqara temperature sensor, Whatever TZ3000_abci1hui TS0044 is (possibly the Moes remote), Aqara door sensor, Aqara button, 1 Styrbar. I deleted the 2 Ikea dimmer remotes. They were the first two devices I perceived as misbehaving. Everything had been good before I added them. There's also 2 Ikea bulbs I deleted a while ago because I changed them for ones with a different cap

austere patio
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Aqara needs to be joined to specific routers, otherwise they can pick a bad parent and then lose connectivity if network conditions change

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What channel is your network on?

pine swan
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15

austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB 2.0 extension cable?

pine swan
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Straight in the back of the host

austere patio
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That'd likely be the problem

pine swan
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It's also about 1m away from a MiMo router

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Should I put it on an extension?

austere patio
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Definitely

pine swan
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Thanks. I'll steal the extension cable off the Bluetooth dongle

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Should I delete and re-add all the fallen-off things via their nearest repeater?

austere patio
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They may re-join on their own if you click a button on them

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You don't have to delete them, just permit joins again and reset the device

pine swan
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Thank you

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Permit joins? I'm not familiar with that

austere patio
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The "add device" button

pine swan
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Everything seems to have rejoined OK except one device

verbal orchid
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Hello there, I hope you are well.
So I have this exact problem https://bytemeta.vip/repo/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/13322 except I am running ZHA, not zigbee2mqtt. The problem seems resolved in zigbee2mqtt using an "external converter"? I don't know how to interpret this.
I used to have zigbee2mqtt but switched to ZHA after my devices simply would not repair with zigbee2mqtt (repeatedly said corruption during interview) even after a Hass reinstall + Conbee II firware update. So essentially returning to zigbee2mqtt is a last resort.
What hope is there for a ZHA "external converter" equivalent?

still terrace
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Can anyone recommend a zigbee stick? For the second time now with my sonoff stick every device has become unavailable and I donโ€™t know of a way to fix it other than readding all devices

grim igloo
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Why are you blaming the stick instead of the mesh?

still terrace
grim igloo
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If the sonoff sticks were sub par myself and tons of others would be having the same issues lol

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Iโ€™m not ruling out you having hardware failure with your stick tho

still terrace
grim igloo
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I havenโ€™t had to debug zigbee yet, just asking questions for others to jump in and help

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Is it connected to a usb 2.0 extender?

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Also does hass show any errors in the logs like saying it lost the stick?

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Btw z2m or zha?

still terrace
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yes it's on a USB extender (and about 5ft away from my BT dongle), only thing I see in logs are delivery errors like sync_initialize: all attempts have failed: [DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>'), DeliveryError('Request failed after 5 attempts: <Status.NWK_NO_ROUTE: 205>')] and this is zha

grim igloo
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@austere patio to the rescue maybe?

still terrace
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I'm definitely more of a zwave guy so I'd appreciate any zigbee help anyone can offer

grim igloo
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Do you have another usb extender to swap with to rule that out?

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How often does this happen?

still terrace
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I could swap it with another, this is the 2nd time it's happened in about 3 months so not super common but frustrating

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also if it's a mesh issue, shouldn't it self heal over time? Apparently it went dead hours ago

grim igloo
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I brought up mesh issue before you said the whole thing drops at once

still terrace
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for the record though I only have 2 mains powered zigbee devices, the rest are battery. So a couple device issues would kill my "mesh" since it's more of a line than a mesh ๐Ÿ™‚ that said all devices are within a 25ft radius of each other so not like I need a super strong mesh, everything should be able to talk directly to the stick

grim igloo
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Oh

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How many end devices?

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Non powered

still terrace
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I lied 4 not 2 powered, 10 battery

grim igloo
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Not ideal but I think at worst they should just have high latency with bad rssi

still terrace
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almost everything I have is zwave, I mainly use zigbee for leak sensors

austere patio
still terrace
austere patio
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Is the extender 2.0 or 3.0 though? If it's 3.0 and plugged into a 3.0 port, that may cause problems

still terrace
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also I tried using the new zigbee backup/restore feature since I had a backup, no help.

still terrace
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what's weird is the visualization says my 2 mains powered Innr plugs are Online, but they're not functional either

austere patio
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Have you tried unplugging those two plugs for a few seconds and plugging them back in?

still terrace
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yeah but I'll gladly do it again

austere patio
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When you open the ZHA radio migration tool and select the automatic backups, how many are shown?

still terrace
austere patio
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What do you see?

still terrace
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keep radio, upload manual, erase network settings

austere patio
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Ah, right. That means that your network state is identical to what is in the backup so restoring it will do nothing

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You can, however, manually download a backup and then restore by uploading the file

still terrace
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I yanked the power to all mains devices simultaneously. They seem to have come back online. I guess I'll wait and see if the battery devices spring to life when they next wake up

austere patio
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Which battery-operated devices are they?

grim igloo
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Puddly is there a way to overload the stick or routers and make it just.. fall over?

still terrace
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Samsung and Centralite leak sensors

austere patio
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Hmm, those should be "normal" and should reconnect if their parent (possibly a plug) goes offline

still terrace
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I have 2 Innr plugs, 2 Heiman gas leak sensors, and 10 leak sensors

grim igloo
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Btw off topic but just curious why you went with zigbee leak sensors instead of zwave since you already have a good mesh?

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Specific features not available?

still terrace
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the gas leak sensors are because I haven't found a zwave equivalent

grim igloo
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Havenโ€™t looked myself

still terrace
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2 sensors (both Samsungs) have reported in. The rest haven't come back, not sure how quickly they should

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funnily enough, they're the two furthest ones from any mains device

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also, at the time I was using Hubitat and was having MASSIVE zwave problems (a big reason why I switched to HA). So I was experimenting with zigbee. After switching to HA zwave has been nearly rock solid

still terrace
grim igloo
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Still makes me think itโ€™s signal related since nothing changed yet worked second time

still terrace
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kinda hard to prove you wrong. But the reconfigs were done back to back. First didn't resolve it, second did. For what it's worth though it said it failed both times ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

austere patio
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Reconfiguration usually does nothing for sensors, since they're sleeping 99.9% of the time

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But if it worked then it worked ๐Ÿ˜†

still terrace
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yeah reconfigure was a "what do I have to lose?" type thing\

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but I guess to my original question, is a sonoff recommended? Are there better sticks out there? I know it's some what of an opinion question

austere patio
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The chipset is well-supported so if it works then it works

still terrace
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Do I dare ask if thereโ€™s a benefit to switching to z2m vs ZHA? I havenโ€™t found much good info online

verbal orchid
grim igloo
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Seems new devices are supported by z2m quicker and possibly additional functionality in the webui config

still terrace
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Got it. Z2m for zwave was kind of night and day difference

austere patio
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New devices nowadays are like 99% Tuya and white-label Tuya. Otherwise, device support is comparable for both.

verbal orchid
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z2m seems to unlock full functionality of lots of Tuya devices but for the ones I got, they were corrupted on interview

grim igloo
grim igloo
austere patio
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That's the remaining 1% ๐Ÿ˜†

grim igloo
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Also wasnโ€™t power on behavior with hue bulbs etc recently added to zha

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And existed in z2m for a while?

austere patio
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I believe Hue has had it for a while but it was added to the Zigbee spec (or existed in the spec the whole time) so it was globally enabled for all newer bulbs.

grim igloo
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Ah

mellow geode
terse crystal
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but even when the switch is off....it is still providing a little bit of power to the lights that are attached

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just enough for them to flicker !?!?

sour shadow
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That's normal for two-wire devices

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You can buy a dimmer bypass (resistor) that can help with that

terse crystal
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ah ok

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there is no dimmer on this though

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it is just on/off

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but yes, no neutral

sour shadow
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It's not a dimmer, but it's effectively one

terse crystal
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right

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good point

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looks like I'll need to do some digging

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so these have no ability to connect to neutral...as I have that avaialble

pine swan
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I saw people saying that Zigbee sticks should be kept away from SSDs yesterday. I'd not heard that before. What is it about SSDs that cause problems?

sour shadow
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USB 3.0 is the problem

pine swan
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Thanks

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Is there some magic trick to making Aqara mini buttons pair with ZHA? I've tried two of them and I'm vaving terrible trouble getting them to work. Tried free pairing and pairing via a device. They mostly get stuck at "Starting Interview" or come up as "unk_manufacturer unk_device". I've tried both long and short button presses

sour shadow
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Just keep activating the pairing button every 5 seconds or so until the interview completes

pine swan
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Thank you

sour shadow
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That approach works for every battery powered sensor I've encountered, it stops it going to sleep before the interview completes

hollow sierra
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Zigbee or Thread?

I am buying a large set of new blinds and I can choose between the Zigbee or Thread version; they do not have a definite date for Matter support.

I am leaning towards getting the Thread version, but the question in my mind:

  1. Is will the thread version work with HA?
  2. What is its potential for getting Matter support?
sour shadow
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Matter support is being worked on. Zigbee support exists and is mature.

hollow sierra
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But what about Thread? (yes, I understand it is one of the protocols within Matter)

sour shadow
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Falls under the Matter category

hollow sierra
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The house is still under construction, I need to order now but will not actually use them until Dec

sour shadow
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If you want stuff that you know will work, buy Zigbee

hollow sierra
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I am ok living on the edge ๐Ÿ˜‰

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I daily drive HA beta

sour shadow
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Then embrace the unknown... and let us know how it works out for you ๐Ÿ˜‰

hollow sierra
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haha

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I guess my uncertainty revolved around; even if the manufacturer does not support Matter, but they are providing a Thread radio. Is that a structure that we expect to work in HA

sour shadow
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Thread is coming, but it's still early days

hollow sierra
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I have been tracking it, but maybe I missed it

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do you mean a pinned message?

sour shadow
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Yes

hollow sierra
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hopefully!!!

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thanks for the help

worthy wedge
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any zigbee like nanoleaf products out there ?

pine swan
worthy wedge
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I actually do in fact ! ; mind just linking the zigbee product to add to the 3d printed object ?

grim igloo
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Geoleaf on thingiverse running wled on an esp32 is a decent knock off

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You could add zigbee instead

worthy wedge
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so when you say I could add zigbee instead ... its like a product ? receiver... and I'm in Canada ; if anything you can link or whatever you know of so I can search for equivalencies

grim igloo
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A little board yea

pine swan
worthy wedge
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perfect thank you man

grim igloo
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Wled over Wi-Fi works pretty well for my diy strips tho

worthy wedge
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ya sorry I just needed a link ; because without wasting your guys time I have to do more research down the rabbit hole because I'm not familiar with terms like ESP32 etc.. but I have received good direction. thanks team

blissful whale
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Morning all, I've got a huszusb that i want to replace with a sonoff 3.0 zigbee device, and was curious if there was a guide to migrate so I don't break automations/etc?

pine swan
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An ESP8266 can easily drive a string of Neopixels

pine swan
grim igloo
worthy wedge
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Thank you guys

fair mountain
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seems pretty straight forward to compile a new Z-Stack? And looks like I need to fork zigpy?

molten linden
austere patio
blissful whale
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Thanks! i'll give that a whirl, whats the button say?

austere patio
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Migrate radio

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Are you using the Z-Wave side of the HUSBZB-1?

blissful whale
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negative. upgraded that a few months back to a zooz stick

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Hmm, I didn't see the migrate option, but I also don't see the new stick being passed to my vm either

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I'll play around a bit.

austere patio
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What version of HA are you running? It's available only in 2022.9

blissful whale
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ahhhh ok

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dang

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I was having a zwave memory leak in my newer 2022.9 version (core 8.5?) so i've reverted to an old snapshot

blissful whale
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@austere patio that appeared to do the trick. I've only upgraded the HA to 9.4 and hope that the mem leak doesn't exist there... but the migration seemed easy enough and appeared to do the trick.

strong matrix
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A very quick question: I have been using ZigBee2MQTT for almost three years now and I have decided to give ZHA a try. I want to create the mesh by adding the devices step by step. However, once the coordinator is initialized some kind of autodiscovery process starts and the mesh gets populated (even some enddevices). Does this mean that pairing is autoenabled in ZHA (such that even potentially harmful devices get autoadded)?

frank hull
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Is anyone using an xfinity k9-85sma motion sensor with ZHA or Zigbee2Mqtt. I got an unsupported error in Zigbee2mqtt. It would try to add, then say it left the network. I know they are older, but wonder if there is a trick to make them work, or if they just aren't supported.

grim igloo
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Xfinity?! Are these packaged with a cable and internet plan or something?

frank hull
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I think they have a smart home platform in some markets. I bought a box of these that has a few of these motion sensors and door/window sensors from someone switching to a different system at a yard sale. I saw that it was zigbee and took a chance with how cheap they are. The door sensors work great and even report temperature. There is a different style motion sensor that paired quickly. These k9-85 SMAs just won't pair. The motion sensor that worked is a mp-841 (came up as universal for the manufacturer) and
XHS2-UE for the door sensor that reports temp. I'm just checking them out now, haven't placed them permanently.

mellow geode
# strong matrix A very quick question: I have been using ZigBee2MQTT for almost three years now ...

ZHA only allows joins for 60 seconds after you click the "Add Device" button. Other devices will then join if they're in pairing mode.
However, if you've used the same stick with Z2M without wiping it, ZHA will try to "move over" as many devices as it can. (They're still in the network, but ZHA doesn't really know what they are until they're re-interviewed. For mains powered devices, this can be done by power-cycling them)

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So no, pairing is not auto-enabled in ZHA. I don't think that's even possible. You can use the zha.permit service if you want to permit "fresh joins" for a longer period though.

pine goblet
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Anyone have any luck pairing one of the new Philips hue tap dial switches with HA and retaining use of the buttons/dial?

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On Z2M specifically

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Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask

soft plover
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Hello, how can I overwrite a value in a zigbee radiator thermostat. It is about the max_temp value. I want to change this from 300 to 30
max_temp: 300

royal houndBOT
molten linden
# pine goblet On Z2M specifically

not sure on z2m, but paired one to ZHA, it did nothing it pulled in a FW update, and then it worked out of the box, with events for each button and the dial.

pine goblet
molten linden
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may not be in the current z2m release then

pine goblet
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I probably should ask in the z2m discord

wind trout
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Hi Guys and Gals. Bought some additional TS011F zigbee smart plugs. added them into HA via ZHA and the Amp value is showing incorrectly. A laptop is plugged in apparently using 350A!!. How can i change this? Charger says output is 2.31A. Also the Polled smart energy summation is displaying a value in the trillions, can i reset this to 0?

strong matrix
split palm
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Anyone have the Aqara P1 motion sensors? Am I missing something or are the batteries just borderline impossible to take out?

twin gazelle
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anyone else having an issue running z2m after updating to os9?

grim igloo
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working for me on haos on pi4

twin gazelle
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looks lke its a mosquito broker issue "Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-09-15 21:53:19: MQTT failed to connect: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND core-mosquitto"

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for some reason the start on boot was disabled

raw lynx
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howdy all,
Trying to add some Zigbee blinds to my HA instance but i'm having issues with it picking it up.

I've already got about 5 devices on the unit that are zigbee and about 32 others that are z-wave

Trying to put the controller into discovery mode yields these logs

https://pastebin.com/nRbJtQNY

trying to put the controller into discovery mode and trying to add the blinds yields these logs
https://pastebin.com/SKyf3yy5

Looks like it literally doesn't even see the blinds (ironic)

anyways, i tried checking other devices that are zigbee and they're still reporting fine it just seems none of these blinds are being picked up

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is it possible that the blinds are holding previous connections set at the factory? and if so is it similar to z-wave in which you can put the controller in un-pairing mode to "free it up" perse?

molten linden
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In zigbee when you permit joins, the coordinator listens for a device to announce itself. You can trigger this by resetting the device typically. Are any of your existing devices routers/repeaters?

raw lynx
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I don't actually know or if there's a way to tell I have one other pair of blines on there that are a pair of yoolax, other than that I have a water shut-off valve and rgbw controller and a flood sensor

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But I got them off AliExpress so I don't know if their repeaters or not

sage plume
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Hm, one of my Hue switch remots seems to have fallen off the Zigbee network (Z2M), pressing the buttons generates no messages in the logs.. but not sure how to force a rebind or.. figure out what happened..

clear spoke
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Halp. I stupidly deleted all the groups under the ZHA integration in the UI, thinking I didn't need them. Each of them contained only the ezsp device and nothing else

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Now none of my zigbee stuff responds to commands

austere patio
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SiLabs coordinators unfortunately need to be a part of a group to receive commands destined for that group

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Try clicking the "reconfigure device" button once for each type of affected device, it should start working again after that

clear spoke
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I'll try that, thanks!

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Oh, interesting.. everything is working now after simply creating an empty group (I wasn't able to add the ezsp to it).

austere patio
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What kind of devices do you have? IKEA?

clear spoke
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A mix of IKEA and Sengled bulbs as well as IKEA, ERIA, and Xiaomi buttons. I haven't tested every single thing to know if they really all work yet but so far so good

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hmm yeah the IKEA remote I just tried doesn't work.. I'll try reconfiguring it

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No dice

austere patio
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The reconfiguration doesn't need to succeed, even if it fails the button should start working after that

clear spoke
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Sadly it's not
Should there be a new/recreated group after reconfig?

austere patio
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Perhaps it needs to actually go through the configuration to work. Can you keep a button awake (i.e. click it repeatedly) before/during the reconfiguration?

graceful elm
austere patio
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It overrides the source endpoint when sending a request

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Zigpy was written with SiLabs EZSP coordinators in mind, which allow you to send commands from any endpoint and receive on any endpoint. Z-Stack doesn't (well, didn't), and requires the source endpoint to be chosen more intelligently.

graceful elm
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Thanks, I managed to get the xbee to work with it, but the command has to come from the correct endpoint

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So was trying to determine how to best implement that

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Of course the zigpy issue is another problem, it seems like adding the endpoints has to happen at startup to be able to listen on them

austere patio
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It will likely have to be added as a custom config option for zigpy, right now we can't add more endpoints due to firmware limitations with Conbees

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The correct endpoint is matched based on the cluster ID and profile. What do the XBee endpoints use?

graceful elm
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endpoint=0xE6,
profile=0xC105,

austere patio
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Are there multiple?

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Or is it just a single one? Do they all have the same profile? What about the destination cluster ID?

graceful elm
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The quirk implements an endpoint for serial at 0xE8, but I haven't tested that, they all have the same profile id

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There are several cluster ID, depending on the command

austere patio
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Looking at the quirk, I'm seeing the device has endpoints 0xD0 - 0xDE registered

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Do you have to send from endpoint 0xD5, for example, for the device to accept it on 0xD5?

graceful elm
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No, everything to 0xE6, we set the endpoint on the xbee in the payload

raw lynx
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Can anyone confirm if the am25-1/30-es-e is in fact a ZigBee enabled roller blind motor

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I think my blinds manufacturer might have sent me the wrong motor

austere patio
graceful elm
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OK, so that's pretty similar to what I have that's working

austere patio
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But something will have to be done to allow zigpy-znp to use the old endpoint matching logic

graceful elm
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But if I PR that to zigpy, sounds like it could cause tons of issues

austere patio
graceful elm
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I'd be good with that, anyone crazy enough to use an xbee should be good with some yaml config

austere patio
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Add the new option to zigpy.config, use zdo_types.SimpleDescriptor as a vol validator, and then add some code at the end of ControllerApplication.register_endpoints to register them

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Should be simple to do if you want to make a pull request

clear spoke
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Okay adding the remote again without first removing it seems to have worked. And I see a Zigbee group called Default Lightlink Group now. The old groups that I deleted had less helpful names (just numbers I think)

hybrid cloud
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my sonoff dongle straight up just stopped working with zha, when i try to readd it to ha i get an error when trying to erase, or use a backup. i tried reinstalling the firmware but still same stuff

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initially i had an issue with some zigbee devices not working so i deleted and readded it at which point i started ruinning into this issue

delicate knoll
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I have Sinope Thermostat that I'm supposed to be able to publish the current time and also outside temperature. I was using z2m before I decided to redo all my setup and to do that I was publishing an mqtt message and the thermostat was always at the right time and the outside temp was showing on the screen. I really want to remove as much moving parts as possible, this is why I'm giving zha a try, but I can't find anywhere where I can replicate this. I tried to do in developer events and listen to zha_event and I not getting any. Please help!

clear spoke
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I have a separate issue now where I try to add a new Sengled bulb but when I do, either the new one or another one seems to become unresponsive. Like I've reached a limit or like there's a duplicate ID somewhere or something.

raw lynx
grim igloo
austere patio
drifting bronze
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Hello all , I am looking for a Zigbee led strip controler (ww) , I have tried some equipmentes but not fully satisfied . The one with best results is the miboxer but doesn't have power on behaver ... What are you using and what do you suggest ? ( I only need ww color). Thanks

odd quartz
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Hi everyone. I've been searching through this discord and the forums but I can't quite find an answer. I paired a Danfoss Ally TRV through ZHA. The existence of a quirk for it tells me that it should be supported and indeed I can set the temperature. The climate entity has a state that exposes many more attributes but many options are missing (external temp reading, window open etc). Those things are visible in ZHA cluster UI though. But how do I use those attributes in automations to wire up a window sensor? How do I create a sensor for those that aren't already exposed through the state?

fair mountain
molten linden
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no, the dev kits are the big red boards.

wind trout
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Im currently using ZHA, when adding a smart plug device, the numbers pulled from the device are clearly wrong ( 300Amp reading from a laptop charger) i spun up another HA instance with Zigbee2MQTT and the readings were normal Any thoughts on why or how i can resolve it without having to migrate to zigbee2MQTT?

graceful elm
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So, this is a long shot, but do we know if the ZHA migration will work from an xbee

austere patio
graceful elm
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I'm wrapping up the PR that will allow me to move to a TI coordinator, wondering if I'll be crawling under the house and through the attic

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I've got mine set to unsecured, if it does have a key, it should be the default, have to look

austere patio
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ZigBee has quite a few overlapping security concepts. It could be that unsecured for the XBee just means that it will permit joins and send the network key in the clear, as opposed to requiring it to be encrypted with an out of band secret

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The only fool-proof way to grab it would be to sniff it, which requires you to just join a device and make sure you have a sniffer in range to capture the key. I believe there is sniffing firmware for your coordinator, though I'm not sure if you can switch back from it easily

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If you have the $12 budget for it, pick up an nRF52840. There's a Wireshark plugin and it has good range

graceful elm
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If $12 will keep me out of the crawlspace, I'm in

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Alright, got one on the way, thanks

mellow geode
hybrid cloud
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this might include some of a restart, im not sure

unreal plover
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Hi everyone! I bought a Sonoff ZBDongle-E in hopes of replacing my Conbee II, but I'm having trouble communicating with (mostly Aqara) devices after initial pairing; i.e. motions sensor pair (not necessarily as smooth as expected) and work for a moment, then they become unavailable. It's connected to USB 2.0 port (nothing on USB 3.0) with an extension cable far enough from wifi. I'm reading that some people are having the same problems and also that there could be some issues with the CTUNE parameter being set to the wrong value from the factory. Does anyone have an idea whether there's something to it or it's just my setup ...?

nocturne willow
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Hi! Decided to migrate my 2 Zigbee networks in to one today. Moving everything over that was in Hue to the deconz hub. Most of it seems to be working fine. But I have a big problem with my Hue Dimmer switches. I had one of them already in there that have been working fine for the most prat except for some long time ago.

Anyway, the dimmer switches are found, I can set them up with a Light group in Deconz etc. And it seems to be working, but once I leave the settings page in Deconz, after a short while. It just stops working. If I check the log I can see the "No button map for: RWL021" there, and I see that the dimmers are communicating, but they don't seem to issue any actions. HA doesn't recognize any buttons being pressed either. They are Gen1 switches.

Any advice?

last ruin
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Can I set minimum position of my IKEA blinds in zigbee2mqtt?

austere patio
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Is your coordinator on a USB extension cable? I've seen Z-Stack ones take forever to start or freeze if their formation scan fails, which happens when there's too much noise.

hybrid cloud
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yes plugged into an extension

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dming now

lucid stirrup
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Anyone know of a Zigbee LED monitor sensor like the HomeSeer HS-FS100-L ? I am down to one senor and one device consolidating my some setup on zigbee instead of zwave (why? cost).

sour shadow
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You can probably DIY that with something like ESPHome/Tasmota

pine swan
lucid stirrup
# pine swan What appliance are you trying to make smart?

Currently monitoring if a Dryer is running as I do not want to re-wire the 240V outlet with an expensive power meter. However I have other devices where this LED monitor is a nice (non invasive) way to get clean status from a device. I have been considering it for some other things like my hot water heater that has an indicator LED.

It is a very universal option vs purchasing a smart device or when power monitoring isn't really the objective.

pine swan
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I've done similar things using my smart plugs. They have power monitoring. Like one watches my 3D printer and if the current draw goes below 20 Watts, it knows it's finished, waits 20 minutes for the hot end to cool then pulls the plug. Another one uses a smart plug and a humidity sensor to give my dehumidifier smarts. It even pings my phone with a notification if the dehumidifier is on but the power draw is under 10W as it knows the tank full sensor must have tripped

lucid stirrup
# sour shadow You can probably DIY that with something like ESPHome/Tasmota

If I wanted to do that I would not post in the zigbee channel.. I did that before 1. Looks ugly poor wife approval factor. 2. not that reliable as it is based on network / WiFi. I like that zigbee and Zwave are independent of me rebooting the Wifi or DNS / DHCP issues and do not add to IOT security issues on my network.

lucid stirrup
pine swan
lucid stirrup
lucid stirrup
# pine swan European smart plugs will run at 240V with a couple of adaptors

Interesting, but really overly specific to the dryer.. I really want the LED monitor.. as it already works, is mostly affordable but I don't want to expand my Zwave use, I wanted to know if there was a Zigbee equivalent. To be clear I already have 1 of these on my dryer, works great I don't need to solve the dryer again.. In fact it works better than power monitoring does on my washer as it is very clear on and off.. power use bounces a fair bit on my HE washer and it has idle states.

hardy crane
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It's not possible for HA to know whether you've plugged in a freshly bought coordinator or one that has been previously set up?

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this seems to show up on a Sonoff Dongle that was auto discovered but since it was new I'd expect not to say the "Erase network" part

unknown.png
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It could be just be me being too picky ๐Ÿ˜… ๐Ÿ™ˆ

austere patio
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I guess the "erase" part could be hidden if there isn't a formed network

jovial aspen
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I'm considering picking up one of Tube's PoE zigbee coordinators

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What's the deal with Matter when it comes in? Are all these pre-existing coordinators defunct?

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Or do you just flash them with new 'Matter' firmware?

molten linden
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Cc2652 can be flashed with a RCP fw that works with openthread

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Efr32 can get a silabs rcp and can do zigbee and thread concurrently

jovial aspen
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oh hi tube ๐Ÿ‘‹

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thank you

livid harbor
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after days of troubleshooting when upgrading booting from sd card to ssd i bought an extension coord for my conbee ii, now everything is working again ๐Ÿ˜…

proper depot
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Just installed HA on a SSD and everything is working. Then i added a ConbeeII stick and installed deConz but when i try to add my Aqara smart plug or Hue smart plug in phoscon/lights it wont find anything. Any advise?

wind trout
livid harbor
proper depot
shy summit
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Does someone know a 220v zigbee based motion sensor that I can use to replace existing old school oneโ€™s?

pine swan
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I'm just updating my Sonoff v3 P-dongle for the first time. I've opened it, scraped the paint off the chip and it says:

CC2652
P1F
TI 138 E
AFH1 G4

How to I work out if I need the C2652R or C2652RB firmware please?

molten linden
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Sonoff p uses the launchpad variant

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There is a chart in the fw repo that listed devices and the fw they should use

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(I have no clue when I got the power to post images ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ’ช Iโ€™ll use it wisely ๐Ÿ˜‚)

pine swan
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It just told me to buy a $150 xmodem client

molten linden
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It is

pine swan
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That is for the dongle-e though

grim igloo
pine swan
pine swan
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Dongle is working but I still seem to have my original problem. My Aqara temperature sensor joins the network when I pair it and reports in once but it shows in the visualization as having no connections then goes unavailable a short time later

mellow geode
pine swan
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Thanks. I just tried pressing the button and it updates every time I do that but doesn't seem to poll

wind trout
unreal plover
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does/did anyone have problems with the new Sonoff ZBDongle-E? after the devices are paired, they don't stay available for long. I've made sure there is as little interference as possible (usb 2.0, long cable, far from wifi ...)

ember wharf
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Hi. I need some help, please. I have a RF zigbee connected to my HA via the Hacs Sonoff integration. All working fine with motion sensors etc. I recently purchased some RF remotes and paired them with the zigbee bridge in the EWeLink app. I restarted my HA and can see the new buttons but when I press the remote button, nothing shows in HA. The button just says unavailable. I canโ€™t for the life of me get this to work.

pine swan
ember wharf
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Ok wait, I can see last triggered activity in HA but the device doesnโ€™t have a state (unknown)

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All sorted

warm sonnet
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Hello everyone, I have a 4 socket power strip that ive added to ZHA, HA displays individual sliders but has called them all "switch" and if I toggle one of them, they all turn on/off rather than having individual control over the sockets. The zigbee sig/clusters show 5 separate endpoints each with an on/off attribute but settings these attributes manually doesnt seem to do anything... bit stuck

azure meadow
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Hello. I have TS0013 switch. Every day it will become "unavailable" and I would have to delete the device and re-add it. Why does this happen? Is there a long-term solution to this?

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It is not the specific unit as I have tried changing it with a new one

unreal plover
pine swan
unreal plover
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@pine swan yes, sounds the same. Which coordinator do you have?

azure meadow
pine swan
torn rune
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Is it normal for a RGBW Fibaro puck to have a slight delay in the HA UI when i change states

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my dimmer is near instant

austere patio
# pine swan I'm havung exactly the same problem with two Ikea dimmer remotes and a populatio...

Aqara temp sensors operate completely unidirectionally. They join your network and then send updates in their proprietary format. If you're not able to receive them, either their batteries are low, they chose a poor parent router and can't reach it after they join, or the parent router is incompatible with their long sleep durations and kicks them from the network in like an hour.

brave nacelle
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any recommendations for zigbee thermostats?

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i'm loving zigbee so far, i'll never go back to wifi unless necessary

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wish i had found it sooner before buying all of this wifi garbage

slate kestrel
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hey friends , just for information propose, found the interference problem in my zigbee network.

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it was a simple LED driver that made noise between 10khz - 200ghz

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it was a pain to find this piece of.... and i want to share my experiences with you all

grim igloo
west marten
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@gloomy pawn and @tall prairieeRealPorfavor#5914 any suggestions?

upper shoal
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I just noticed ZHA can create groups of devices. I've already configured some light bulbs in groups using Home Assistant's "helper" feature. It seems like these are 2 methods of doing the same thing. Are there any pros and cons?

grim igloo
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Not the same

grim igloo
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err binding is a way to bind like a switch to a bulb so it works even if hass is down

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groups are a way to "group" multiple devices into one and then send one multicast instead of sending a command to each bulb

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which in turn means less chatter on your zigbee network and benefit being you see your devices all turn on/off at the same time

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i use zigbee2mqtt not zha and use groups there - i have groups for like kitchen chandelier 1,2,3 all in one, groups for kitchen cans 1,2,3, etc. Then I even have a group for all kitchen lights. then i use those groups in home assistant light groups (like you found in helpers)

upper shoal
grim igloo
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ya

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i pretty much exclusively use zigbee groups -> home assistant groups -> whatever (such as passing through to homekit)

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it sucks to have to "group a group" but it works lol

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i chose those naming conventions which are given to hass via mqtt with z2m

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so each group ending in _Group is just the group for a specific device with multiple bulbs, and _All is for multiple groups combined for a single room

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if that makes sense..

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lol

upper shoal
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Nice. I'm trying it out now. I see that even after grouping in Zigbee, I can still control each light individually if I want to

grim igloo
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yeah

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it's just a way to be able to tell home assistant via zha/z2m to send a multicast instead of per device for an automation or w/e

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i might not be phrasing that correctly but i believe that's right

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switching an automation over from targeting multiple devices or using multiple devices via a home assistant helper light group to using a zigbee group is very noticeable when you are in the room and watch the lights change

upper shoal
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I do a lot of IP networking at work so I'm familiar with the efficiency benefits of multicast. Zigbee is tiny amounts of data but it all adds up

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The default name of a Zigbee group is a mouhtfull! light.dresden_elektronik_conbee_ii_living_room_floor_lamp_zha_group_0x0002

grim igloo
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ah you're using conbee?

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lots of folks have issues with that here.. good luck lol

upper shoal
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I've used it for years with Homebridge and it's been great. Just now switching over to Home Assistant for more customization. What sort of issues?

grim igloo
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you can search here or forums and see

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might only be certain controllers, i've never used them myself

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just seems when people have issues with zigbee (aside from interference / shit mesh) it's about conbee/deconz/etc

upper shoal
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good to know

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I've always disliked deconz software, it feels clumsy to configure and requires VNC. But once it's all set up I was happy with it

grim igloo
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vnc lol

upper shoal
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The 3 bulbs in my ZHA group are still not perfectly in sync. Sometimes it is, sometimes one is 0.5 second slower

grim igloo
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does it have a similar LQI to the other two bulbs?

upper shoal
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I can't see LQI, I guess I have to enable it

grim igloo
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it shows up on zigbee2mqtt

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should be in zha somewhere on each device's page or something..

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maybe some hints to where to find it there?

upper shoal
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I think ZHA disables it by default, but I got it ow. The 3 bulbs are 223, 215, 239.

grim igloo
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i think that's pretty bad

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err maybe i'm thinking backwards

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ya i'm wrong

upper shoal
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I think 255 is the maximum. Not sure what is considered "good"

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I found the visualization view in ZHA, very interesting! I have several red lines, and some connections that don't make sense geographically. I'll have to investigate and see if some devices need to be reconfigured

grim igloo
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i'm not expert but i've read that most devices should update routes, at least powered ones, but expecting them all to is not a good idea

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in z2m you can "reconfigure" and i'm sure there is a similar option in zha

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i found this on the forums "Aqara sensors pick a route when paired then they never change. So if you add new routers to the network, you have to re-pair the aqara sensors in-situ to take advantage of a new better possible route. Just enable adding devices in zigbee2mqtt and hold the button on the sensor. "

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so fully re-pair for some devices.. fun lol

upper shoal
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That sucks. I'm hoping most devices can be reconfigured without re-adding. I have mostly Tradfri, Gledopto, Hue, and Ecosmart

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I'm trying to bind a Tradfri switch with Gledopto bulb group and it's not working. From looking at the log, it seems like Tradfri is not capable of binding

austere patio
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Red lines in the visualization are normal: it's showing you every possible path between routers, so it's normal to see two far away routers "see" one another. They likely will never use that route.

upper shoal
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But then it's weird that HA shows binding as an option

grim igloo
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does reconfigure in z2m update routes @austere patio ?

austere patio
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I don't think that's possible from software

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You can ask the device to re-join the network but routing for the most part is automatic

grim igloo
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i see some of my bulbs have an lqi of like.. 50

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yet they seem to respond pretty fast and they're very close to the usb stick

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i never looked before cuz i just assumed they were good to go :x

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usb on extender and away from rack etc

austere patio
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LQI doesn't mean much. It's just how strong the last-received signal is from a packet sent by that device, through its last-hop router.

grim igloo
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and when i created my mesh a few months ago i started with closest to stick first and moved outwards

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i see

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that's my mesh

upper shoal
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What is the second number? Some devices have only 1

austere patio
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Communication is usually in both directions, so it's the LQI from the perspective of each device making up a link

upper shoal
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Ah ok, that's why my Tradfri switches only have 1 because they can't receive feedback

austere patio
upper shoal