the-water-cooler

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6O2DsXw8EdbDKmAfxHBCKs?si=_hDjpgsRQlinnJ6JPEq3zg&utm_source=copy-link

[cunning onyx]

At work the platform we've been building for managing our infrastructure, our guy who does the UI work, I insisted he add a dark theme cause it was unusable otherwise. Well he finally added it and in slack says "The mole people can rejoice, the dark theme has been added" and I just replied with:

[clear ferry]

I approve

[cunning onyx]

Hrmm... I should consider Opnsense when I upgrade my networking equipment.

Buying cheap home routers and flashing them to OpenWRT is a pretty good way to go when you don't want to spend a lot of money, but it's still "home level" hardware.

[clear ferry]

Yes

You can go a long way with a celeron passive system

Unless you need IDS/IPS

[cunning onyx]

IDS / IPS is a bit overkill for my home network

[clear ferry]

I did 600/600 with 5 internal networks and cross network firewalls, plus more with a j1900

[glacial knot]

hates the J1900

[cunning onyx]

OpnSense support wiregaurd? I assume so at this point.

[clear ferry]

Yes

Has for two years now

And is freebsd13 these days, snappy

[cunning onyx]

Sweet.

I'll have to remember that when it comes time to upgrade.

[clear ferry]

Doit

[cunning onyx]

I don't have the time nor the need right yet.

my dirt cheap consumer stuff will do just fine for a while longer.

[umbral cliff]

To annoy atx just go with unifi

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/connor-mc-gregor-gtfo-gtfoh-get-the-fuck-out-of-here-gif-10203692

[cunning onyx]

Ugh, and my most important scale is acting up. Guess I know what I'm doing this morning.

[glacial knot]

graph, or kitchen? 🤔

[cunning onyx]

Mixing tank.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-chemistry-experiment-scientific-walter-white-gif-17820266

[cunning onyx]

Oh, nevermind, it was perfectly fine the entire time, I took 20 pounds out of it last night to refill the tea bucket and forgot about it.

[glacial knot]

tea bucket? o.0

[cunning onyx]

You.. don't make tea by the bucket?

[clear ferry]

I only make tea when I'm sick

[glacial knot]

I have cans of 450ml, 750ml nad 1.5l

[cunning onyx]

haha, it's actually compost tea.

[glacial knot]

what?

[cunning onyx]

ugh, what happened to the theme with this update?

[shadow prawn]

Material Web Components (MWC) happened

[young sigil]

See https://community.home-assistant.io/t/2022-3-select-and-play-media/398201/191

[cunning onyx]

ohhh, Thank you!

Wait, did I put in a custom theme?.. I don't recall.. maybe I did..

[cunning onyx]

Well that's not working for me and I don't have time to keep playing with themes today. Oh well.

[chilly nymph]

Anyone use/recommend any specific open source project management software? There are a lot of them out there and I'm trying to whittle the list down a bit

[clear ferry]

You mean GitHub?

[chilly nymph]

no, I mean something more like trello/asana/clickup

It's for a non-dev team

I'm looking hard at openproject

[glacial knot]

ticket system?

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/ticket-gif-4770829

[orchid rose]

Oh btw @last cedar since you were nerding about this stuff as well, I'd recommend checking out a few videos from this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP6T1comENg

or anyone other nerds interested in Formula 1

[last cedar]

Tyvm

@orchid rose

But according to Mercedes, the car is shit

Going in reverse even 🤣

But they are excellent sand baggers

[clear ferry]

Not tea baggers?

[last cedar]

If Horner fell over, Wolff would tea bag, 99% sure

They are like 2 kids

[orchid rose]

Shit or not, the Ferrari is sexy af and that's all that matters in the end

Can't expect a Norwegian to understand racing though. The fastest train they've ever had was slower than your standard city speed limit

[shadow prawn]

What has a train with racing to do

[limber spoke]

Yes I thought anyone that has mention SA might find it useful.

[orchid rose]

The fastest speed they've experienced. Outside of that not much

[chilly nymph]

I'm not looking for a ticketing system, no...though one with a CRM integration would be nice

I'm talking just normal PM software, with kanban/scrum/agile/gantt/etc

[forest edge]

Listening to that will put you to sleep.

[robust glen]

Can’t see the group to message the admins… can you ask them to contact me?

[young sigil]

I have no idea who they are.

[neon hawk]

finally got mopidy and TTS working on two raspberry pi's

[shadow prawn]

Nice

Then its time for some snapcast action

[last cedar]

I have a soft spot for Mclaren as a team, always have, and I like the drivers. But yeah, there is so much sandbagging going on, it is a good thing they are testing in a desert, otherwise they would have made their own

[glacial knot]

still sounds like jira to me
though I dislike Jira itself as a product

[dusky plank]

my fav is pivotal tracker, but jira is whats used mostly. its also comfortable with confluence. they need to up their search game though

[clear ferry]

Elastisearch you say

[hushed basalt]

Why open source

Is this for a non profit with no real funding?

[clear ferry]

PrInCiPlES

[dawn prawn]

Can’t use the free version of Asana? Or is it a trial period only that they offer?

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/osqq6rjtv3n81.jpg

[last cedar]

Relatable

[last cedar]

https://i.redd.it/uwdee0ap81n81.jpg

It would appear I am your new leader

[forest edge]

Not till your face has been seen in a slice of toasted bread.

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-summer-higgins-piper-perabo-yellowstone-huh-gif-24367273

[earnest schooner]

ight

[umbral cliff]

From #hardware-archived

[earnest schooner]

ye

[umbral cliff]

Data used is always slightly out of date

[earnest schooner]

we get taught that after... well 10 years its too old

the thing i am struggling with s that the ammount of phones and phones usage in the last few years (between now and 3 years ago) skyrocketed even further

[umbral cliff]

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1877782121000783

You say you’re a university student. You should know very well that you should use academic references then

Not YouTube

[earnest schooner]

this is unrelated as it only covers the salivery glands, parts exposed when calling

well its related, but it doesnt show any concrete things im scared or worried about

im not making the argument rf is bad, im making the argument we dont know

[clear ferry]

We'd know by now

[umbral cliff]

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/bem.22375

Another set

[earnest schooner]

the thing is for this kind of research to work you would need to make research every year for at least then years to get a result every year

[umbral cliff]

You do realise we’re being bombarded by radio waves even before computers and phones

[umbral cliff]

So get yourself a systematic review going

I presume you know how to find references online?

As you’re a uni student

And it’s a key part

[earnest schooner]

yes, thats the idea.

[earnest schooner]

i dont, i have neve rhad classes in finding sources or references, i have only had classes in high school about critical thinking and evaluating the validity of a source

[umbral cliff]

Sounds like your uni is not doing well

And you never learnt in high school

[clear ferry]

Then you shouldn't cite YouTube

[umbral cliff]

A single YouTube video from a epidemiologist about mobile phones isn’t a great source

[earnest schooner]

im giving an example of someone saying so. again i dont know if its true

[umbral cliff]

It would get you flagged for academic misconduct

[earnest schooner]

i would never use it for a uni thing

[umbral cliff]

I can give examples of anything. You have to have knowledge about why they would say it’s true. By reading academic papers

Of which most say it’s fine

[earnest schooner]

also, im in what is referred to here as applied sciences uni, not theorethicla, so the level is not the same from what you may presume

[glacial knot]

We didn’t have specific classes about finding stuff either
Just full access to every journal and citing guides

[umbral cliff]

Remembering we do have radiation battering us for years

[umbral cliff]

We had parts of the intro courses helping find where the sources are

Library search or google scholar

[clear ferry]

Yeah, wife also had a class about sources recently

And all her papers have to have cited sources

[restive vapor]

Guess what I gonna do

[umbral cliff]

Partner is a few years behind me, just starting uni they’ve introduced an entire part about how to find references

[earnest schooner]

im not saying its bad, im saying i dont know

[umbral cliff]

Start sewing?

[restive vapor]

Ern no

[umbral cliff]

It’s okay to not know. But before you debate a topic, do some research using more than YouTube

[glacial knot]

Library has a search system 🙂
But it's also a bit easier when almost everything relevant ends up in ACM or IEEE

[glacial knot]

what the hell is RM?

[umbral cliff]

I preferred google scholar because easier button to cite into endnote lol

[restive vapor]

Currency

[umbral cliff]

Malaysian currency afaik

[glacial knot]

I think we had this before. Everyone offers easy citing with LaTeX 😛

[earnest schooner]

im not debating thats the magical thing. im teasting arguments of why something is true. the first thing i showed is simply to 'provoke' a counter argument.
i could also ask "why is it not bad" but that would be too direct and not to my taste

[umbral cliff]

Provoking a counter argument makes it a debate

But if you can’t see that then imma just block

He easier

*Be easier

[umbral cliff]

Yes. But lazy sync too

[earnest schooner]

like what i did searching "rf dangerous to health" to find something to start it with, probably the most not factual way of searching for something but it works

[umbral cliff]

Endnote syncs the attachments in one. Unlimited storage too lol

[glacial knot]

hm? Lazy sync?

[umbral cliff]

Add it to the library on every device

[restive vapor]

@umbral cliff the real thing
I am going to make a diy foot petal keyboard
And you gonna ask where I gonna use it
I gonna use it with Minecraft

[umbral cliff]

Without needing a sync program

[earnest schooner]

hmm yes in theory, but its more a like, lost cause since i dont intend on winning so kinda

[glacial knot]

that's a feature to point out? 😂

[umbral cliff]

No I wasn’t gonna ask where you were gonna use it tbh

[glacial knot]

man, your world does suck, huh?

[earnest schooner]

buy two and link the to the feet of a vr game and every time you press a pedal the linked foot moves forwards. and then play titanfall

[umbral cliff]

Of course 😂😂

Nah I did use bibtex, just it’s not as easy for word essays vs when I used it for comp sci reports

[restive vapor]

Nah gonna link it to shift key in Minecraft

[clear ferry]

Ew Minecraft

[restive vapor]

Why I can't play

[earnest schooner]

link shift to W for bigbrain no crouching grindset gameplay

[umbral cliff]

Minecraft is fun if you play games

And have friends

[restive vapor]

Nah it's for flying controls
Spacebar up
This pedal for down

[clear ferry]

I tried it, was as annoying as asmr

[earnest schooner]

"have friends" ight its off topic not dream talk xD

[restive vapor]

Mine aren't

[earnest schooner]

ohhh thats bigbrain did not think about it

[umbral cliff]

Pressing Shift that hard?

[restive vapor]

No it's not
But its for emergency usage where my hand can't press it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-alert-crazy-alert-alerta-alerta-loca-gif-15115104

[umbral cliff]

But you only need to use your pinky to press it

Not hard

[restive vapor]

I eat Infront my PC

So the only thing I can use is my foot

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/is-this-a-joke-poor-rich-dont-understand-horrible-histories-gif-16131375

[restive vapor]

No
I love to eat Infront my PC if possible

[umbral cliff]

Why not eat. Then game

[glacial knot]

what do you control with it? flight sim, or some kind of drone?

[restive vapor]

Yes lol

[restive vapor]

Minecraft

[clear ferry]

I've been eating and gaming at the same time since before most of you were born, never had issues

[restive vapor]

Yes tell me how to use ur keyboard without making ur keyboard oily

[clear ferry]

I don't care

[restive vapor]

I care

[clear ferry]

And I don't eat oily food either

[glacial knot]

in a land before computer mice

[umbral cliff]

Get a keyboard cover

[glacial knot]

it's called cutlery

[clear ferry]

Hey, i recorded my gaming on vcr @glacial knot

[umbral cliff]

Probably before computers had monitors and just used TVs instead

[restive vapor]

Eat burger with cutlery?????

[glacial knot]

not on the day I dropped in

[clear ferry]

I did that too, as third monitor @umbral cliff

Before you were born

[umbral cliff]

Just don’t eat a burger when gaming??

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

yes

[restive vapor]

The heck?????

[umbral cliff]

Unsure if you actually know my age

[umbral cliff]

It is doable

[clear ferry]

Aren't you 11.5 ?

[glacial knot]

I eat burgers with fork and knife more often than with my hands

[umbral cliff]

You wish I was working full time at 11.5

[clear ferry]

I only did part time at 9

[umbral cliff]

If I’m eating greasy food when on my computer I take a break then wash my hands

[earnest schooner]

xD

[restive vapor]

I can just assign multiple pattern and use it for any game

[glacial knot]

you don't have a good and a slob keyboard?

[umbral cliff]

I still don’t get why you can’t just not eat a burger and game at the same time

[clear ferry]

Because ADHD

[umbral cliff]

Imagine being rich enough for that

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/adhd-distracted-squirrel-gif-6080454

[glacial knot]

full time? 😛

slob keyboards are like 20€

[restive vapor]

Eat and game is a good thing

[glacial knot]

I need to get myself tested for that at some point
but eehhhhh

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but then im lazy. Gotta transfer between desktop or laptop then

[umbral cliff]

Why is it good?

[glacial knot]

just use a controller and game with your feet

[umbral cliff]

Why is it any better than gaming then break to eat. Then game again

[clear ferry]

If you suspect it, you surely have it

Best regards someone who hangs around a lot of adhd people

[restive vapor]

It's super good and I can keep up with what my friends are doing cz I am the server owner also

[glacial knot]

see, I shitpost in here while I eat

[umbral cliff]

10 minutes is too long a break?

[restive vapor]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

You can stretch your legs and get away from the screen then

Healthy

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/left-out-conan-no-oh-no-sad-gif-22021097

[umbral cliff]

Or get healthy snacks

[glacial knot]

only thing I have diagnosed is social anxiety and depression
which are both side effects of untreated ADHD^^

[clear ferry]

I'm not diagnosed with anything, I surely have a lot

[earnest schooner]

ight welcome to the disability family

[restive vapor]

Imagine leave ur pc for a while then ur friends just killing each other

[clear ferry]

Yes

[glacial knot]

log out 😂

[clear ferry]

It is fine

Get medicated

[restive vapor]

No it's not
I will either kick or ban one of them
It's against my will

[clear ferry]

Yeah, get diagnosed and medicated

[restive vapor]

I think ur the one needing it

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-help-you-mj-games-people-play-allow-me-to-help-you-let-me-give-you-a-hand-gif-24211132

To get medicine

[glacial knot]

helped, but not by enough for the depression
I dropped out of Uni (well, intended to. Finished because CS is piss easy when my mind actually functions), moved, got a job, started to do regular training with clubs again....
Essentially changed everything about my life. That helped

[umbral cliff]

Get better friends

[restive vapor]

Ok

[umbral cliff]

Yeah pretty sure I have something. But I have an aviation medical and don’t need to make it more complicated. I can function just fine otherwise

[clear ferry]

I should probably have gotten an education

Oh well too late now

[umbral cliff]

Never too late. Especially when uni is free for you guys

[restive vapor]

Maybe I should use it for AR then?

[clear ferry]

Can't be bothered, i already make 3x of what most people with education i know make, and it increases yearly, i just study my own interests in my free time and while at work instead

[glacial knot]

I know more people without formal education that are doing pretty well
Education is just the straight ahead way most of the time. Not the only, and often not even the best

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

don't confuse education with intelligence. Or skill 😂

[clear ferry]

Yeah

I was hired at the same time as a master in computer sciences

He... Was not very good at learning new stuff tbh

Lasted 6 months

Good at memorising text books

Not good at acquiring new skills

[umbral cliff]

Yeah I agree. Many dumb people with a uni degree. Many smart people without one. It’s just a very convenient way to get a job soon

And it pays more straight out of the gate

[umbral cliff]

Guessing the uni also didn’t help encourage skills

[clear ferry]

No idea

I did one year of prep uni

Then I found porn and warez

And I was outta there

[glacial knot]

CS is just simple logic most of the time either way

the most important part of uni was being pointed to topics

[clear ferry]

Had a friend do masters in CS, he got top grade in all computer classes, almost failed all the other ones

[umbral cliff]

I felt my criminology degree is helping more than comp sci. Comp sci got me a basic of computer theory and logic and a degree saying I know shit

Crim taught me how to write essays and reports and also how to find info and think for myself

[clear ferry]

He's worked as a Linux admin freelancer for.... 20 years now

[glacial knot]

I had to redo 0 CS classes, 1 Maths (because I never went.... never prepared) and most of the EE stuff^^

writing essays. The skill that roughly 0.01% of people will ever truely need

[umbral cliff]

I had to redo 2 CS classes, one was computer logic (eg hoare logic/ etc) which is terrible when you have 0 interest and concurrent programming because the lecturer was shit

[umbral cliff]

Writing essays really useful at giving skills to write reports/ documents to bosses though

[glacial knot]

hoare logic is fun

[umbral cliff]

Which is used

[glacial knot]

Why would you pair hoare with concurrent from the get go? o.0 That's just going to fuck your models, since you can't pretend it's von Neumann

[umbral cliff]

Nah two courses

Over 2 years

Just failed both because fuck that shit

[glacial knot]

not really. Maybe Emails 😂

[umbral cliff]

Lecturer for logic was also terrible too

[umbral cliff]

I’ve already seen one of my colleagues do some report writing, I intend to follow a similar field, I think I’ll need it

[glacial knot]

then you'll be one of those 0.01% people

good luck

the most report like thing I write is technical papers about internal structures

[chilly nymph]

Because I'd like it to be self hosted and something I can add functionality to if I need it

[chilly nymph]

The free version doesn't have everything that I need

[glacial knot]

then make sure it's not written in PHP 😉

[clear ferry]

@umbral cliff updating my backup documentation now

I know you were interested

[earnest schooner]

aight bois

i made my decision

im gonna use cheapo tuya plugs

and reflash everything to make it work locally

problem, i have no clue how

[umbral cliff]

Got a link?

Also flashing Tuya plugs. Probably gonna have to take them apart

Find the solder pads

Solder wire

Connect a serial to usb

And flash

[clear ferry]

If they even have esps

[earnest schooner]

"this plug is flashable using the latest tuya-convert with a compiled ESPHome binary"

[clear ferry]

Probably dont

[umbral cliff]

Yeah sounds like you’ll still need to take them apart

You can try the ota flash

[earnest schooner]

im not sure what this means, but does this make it easier or less easy

[umbral cliff]

Probably won’t work

No it’s standard

[clear ferry]

https://github.com/atxbyea/Network-setup/tree/main/Backups @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

What cloud providers do you use?

[clear ferry]

Google and jottacloud

[earnest schooner]

the ota flash? (i dont know what that i i never flashed a smart product)

oh yes they yeeted ESP module and changed hardware configuration without updating the model

so yeet my idea

[umbral cliff]

I hate to say it but…

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-okay-whatever-sure-told-you-so-gif-14129079

[umbral cliff]

How much does that cost you?

[earnest schooner]

your not wrong, its just me figuring out what is possible and isnt

[clear ferry]

Jottacloud is $7 per month

Unlimited

Data throttled at 5TB

Google drive is unlimited, no throttling

$10 per month

[neon hawk]

wee!!! it all works now 😉

[clear ferry]

Currently using roughly 12TB on Google and 2TB on jottacloud

[earnest schooner]

so now one thing im not getting with zigbee. its making a local network, but what is it using, rf waves ? bluetooth? how is it making that local networdk

[earnest schooner]

looks good!

[neon hawk]

was up til l4am trying to get mopidy to work!! but its all playing along fine now

[earnest schooner]

the last 4 am night you will spend on it now that it works

[neon hawk]

I am about to clone the raspberry pi's to image files and make a backup of them on my NAS

[earnest schooner]

to avoid loosing it all and having to redo everything

[clear ferry]

Just make 2h incremental backups instead

Using rsnapshot

[neon hawk]

yes! i have temp sensors - motion sensors - MOSFETS etc also running off the GPIO pins and then some python scripts that send via MQTT - so yeah there is a lot of config on each one and now mopidy and plex setups

[earnest schooner]

my man here using so many words i dont know i feel like im using a fourth language in this conversation

[neon hawk]

yes rsnapshot is the longterm solution - right now i just need quick and dirty - got other things to fix today

[clear ferry]

rsnapshot is literally 10 minutes to setup,including NFS shares

[neon hawk]

probably even faster cos i am using OMV

[clear ferry]

Ew

[earnest schooner]

you are too!

finally another person

[neon hawk]

yeah i know...next month I will build a new NAS

but OMV has lasted me over 7 years now i think

[umbral cliff]

In answer to your earlier question it uses the same frequency as 2.4Ghz wifi for zigbee

In its own protocol

[umbral cliff]

Thought they stopped the unlimited part?

[earnest schooner]

protocol, means its the same but encrypted?

[glacial knot]

is that an old contract? I don't think they offer that anymore

[snow hedge]

I was all happy about having a home assistant glow, then I got solar panels, now it's useless 😂 think I need to upgrade to CT clamps

[clear ferry]

Yes, old Contract

Still works fine

[umbral cliff]

Zigbee network protected by unique network key

[earnest schooner]

so zigbee making a local wireless network, but if internet dies network still alive?

[umbral cliff]

Yes

It’s not a network your devices can use for internet or whatever

It’s it’s own local 2.4Ghz mesh network

[earnest schooner]

so how does it connect to my pi and HA, does the pi just pick up and connect to the signal?

[umbral cliff]

You need a stick/ hub for it

[snow hedge]

You need some sort of zigbee receiver, usually a USB stick

[clever mortar]

See the pins in #zigbee-archived for advice on those

TL/DR: Don't buy a CC253x or ZBbridge

[earnest schooner]

ok zigbee

[snow hedge]

also just to add, zwave is very similar to zigbee, much the same deal, buy a usb stick, communicates over mesh network, etc. So if you see some device that uses zwave or zigbee, you can use either with HA, just need the relevant stick.

[shadow prawn]

But zwave operates in a different frequency

[neon hawk]

also another tip about these sticks is use a USB extender cable with them

[earnest schooner]

nani wut

[snow hedge]

we lost him 😂

[umbral cliff]

And varies based on country

With zwave also being more $$

[neon hawk]

u can get odd interference from the pi USB sockets - best to move the dongle away from the pi with an extender cable

[earnest schooner]

ok so mesh network requires a receiver for the pi in the form of an usb.
it can be either zwave or zigbee and they are the same almost.
and a usb extender cable something?

[umbral cliff]

zigbee is not compatible with z wave

[clever mortar]

Not just the Pi

[umbral cliff]

You chose the standard you want

Then stick with it or get another stick

[earnest schooner]

ok so lets say i choose zigbee cause less expensive

[shadow prawn]

On-Topic allert

😂

[umbral cliff]

#zigbee-archived then

[clever mortar]

Then the #zigbee-archived channel could help you 😉

[earnest schooner]

ok zigbee for zigbee

other question

i have these leds here that i bought with an LSC package, but the receiver thingi cannot be reflashed to work offline

[shadow prawn]

No one has the intention to build a wall

[earnest schooner]

but the led strips are great, is there a place where i can buy like, a zigbee thing to connect the leds strip to?

[clever mortar]

Yes, a Gledopto LED controller for instance

[earnest schooner]

is that compatible with zigbee?

[clever mortar]

Yes

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/GL-C-008P.html

(one of many)

#zigbee-archived has a pinned message with lists of known working hardware

[earnest schooner]

i will go there thank you

i wasnt sure it was an option at all

cause 27 euros for 10M of leds is very cheap

[glacial knot]

sounds like I need to upgrade away from my 2531 at some point...

[clear ferry]

Disgusting

[snow hedge]

https://imgflip.com/i/68hwjj

[glacial knot]

y'all need to chill

I only have 16 devices on my network either way

[last cedar]

That is good. If you add a 17th, the 2531 will explode

[clear ferry]

.5 you mean

[velvet horizon]

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/posts/5/

Command '.5' was invoked by: atxbyea

[clear ferry]

[shadow prawn]

😂

Tinkerer: you wanted #botspam

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-get-out-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20760343

So, gonna power down both of my systems now to move my coral to my big boi

Probably neither will come back up

[snow hedge]

It's always nice logging into home assistant during the day and seeing this 😄

[snow hedge]

Literally only just got my panels fitted, so still finding the fun stuff \o/

[clear ferry]

Per hour consumption today

[snow hedge]

nice 🙂

I still haven't figured a good way of measuring grid return, that is bugging me.

[clear ferry]

I still use 40% less power than the average Norwegian house

Per day consumption

[snow hedge]

Been working on a nice little energy tab, so I h ave a pretty good idea of what is going on 🙂

[restive vapor]

Wow
The ac is ur air-conditioner?

[snow hedge]

Solax X1 Boost AC Power is my solar panels 🙂

[restive vapor]

So some is using power some is providing power?

[snow hedge]

yea, only the top is providing, the rest are consuming

[restive vapor]

Why not separate into two list

[snow hedge]

because I suck at making my home assistant panels look good

[umbral cliff]

ACs usually use a lot more power. About 2-5kW per unit

[restive vapor]

It's a solar panel

[umbral cliff]

I meant as If It was an AC

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/fluke-meter-gif-10893422

[snow hedge]

assuming that's basically the same as a clamp, I asked in ESPHome, and to a couple of people I know, and basically got a perfect 50/50 split on whether a CT clamp can tell which direction power is flowing \o/

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/krach-boursier-calculate-monkey-silly-gif-14808948

Sounds like you will need a lot of clamps

[glacial knot]

just use 2 clamps and use the temporal shift between measurements to get the direction 🧠

[last cedar]

I was looking for some way to get modbus info into HASS

Because I will have a load balancer (3p) for car charger, can measure current passing through. And which direction

[umbral cliff]

Can a human do it? If so hire @clear ferry. He can shitpost on discord whilst you’re doing productive stuff

[clear ferry]

[last cedar]

Atx will be too busy eating raw meat to shitpost

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-lawrence-food-hungry-starving-stare-gif-5203847

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ramsay-raw-gif-13771788

[earnest schooner]

canayone help confiuring wifi on a pi?

yes i know its stupid but none of the tutorials i found to solve the rerors i have give me an answer to how i can solve them

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-14359850

[clever mortar]

#hardware-archived message

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/you-alive-hello-finding-nemo-poke-braces-gif-5257087

Nice, I just migrated from ext4 to btrfs

Now to create a mirror

No data loss so far

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-li-soon-real-soon-very-soon-gif-23841516

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/irretrievable-massive-irretrievable-data-loss-data-loss-the-thick-of-it-nhs-gif-18690681

I should replace my boot volume with ssd at some point

Btrfs should make that easy

[earnest schooner]

so i noticed multiple states

cloud and local

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2016/02/12/classifying-the-internet-of-things/#classifiers

am correct that a local thing is better then a cloud thing

[velvet horizon]

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No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

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Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

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[clever mortar]

Local > cloud, but that's a topic for #general-archived

[earnest schooner]

ah okay, cause last time i was here we had a whole conversation about it so thats why i came back

[last cedar]

Now we only have in depth conversations about the local raccoon shinanigans

[shadow prawn]

First thought raccoon shinigami

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-smack-anime-gif-9885041

[shadow prawn]

Sadly bleach started really good but continued not so well at least the anime

[clear ferry]

Eh it was ok

It was rushed at the end though

[shadow prawn]

Felt like it happened the same again and again like dragonball

[clear ferry]

Kamehameha

[cedar chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/yajirobe-dragon-ball-gif-22346272

Dragonball needed more Yajirobei

He should have just mysteriously kept up with everyone's power level, with no proof of any actual doing training on screen

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dororo-anime-anime2019-crying-alone-gif-14209757

Dororo is quite good

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hate-naruto-sharingan-gif-6062752

[clear ferry]

シャリンガン

[forest edge]

Gotta get in my daily put atx down comments. https://youtu.be/Q5I4tTEPLfs

[clear ferry]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0YRAqcDXP0TQc5WmUnHWqd?si=d87914fb2b9c4bf4

fookin discriminiating Pearson Vue

They only support Windows and macOS for remote exams

Need to dig out an old laptop for my cupboard and install windows on it

[restive vapor]

Why not windows in a vms

[shadow prawn]

My thought

[clever mortar]

A lot of the software for these things will refuse to run in a VM

[clear ferry]

Yes, VMs are a no go for proctored exams

The software locks the computer to one screen, watches you via webcam and audio

[clear ferry]

There we go, laptop installed with windows and ready to use for exams

[restive vapor]

So u need to show ur room before exams?

[forest edge]

wonder if they were using that during all this at home school learning stuff

[clear ferry]

Wonder what ? We have done remote learning here for 20+ years already

proctored exams are different though, it locks down the computer

that doesn't happen during regular school classes

nor are you required to have your cam and audio on for school

[restive vapor]

Even before covid????

[forest edge]

exactly what I am curious if they did do here. if the software was available I don't see why they wouldn't use it

not for everyday learning, for tests etc

[clear ferry]

Nothing surprises me with murica

For tests yes

they use the same software for tests here too

[clever mortar]

The UK has done remote learning since the 70's, if not longer

[clear ferry]

and exams

[forest edge]

how did the carrier pigeon monitor for cheating?

[clear ferry]

Yeah, we started fully digital in... 2001\2 I think, remote learning by mail was long before that

[clever mortar]

Learning != exam 😉

[clear ferry]

I could watch lectures over the internet in 2003 in college, and that had already been in place for a few years, so I could view the archive of previous recordings

[forest edge]

watching videos, taking website style forms as test is not really the same lol

not like the interactive aspect of it today

[clear ferry]

if it counts as attendance it is remote learning 🤷

[forest edge]

eh.. you guys really like to set that bar low lol

[clear ferry]

they could see who was logged in at any given stream

and we had chat channels

so it was definitivly interactive

[forest edge]

again, that's a really low bar

[clear ferry]

think the first time I saw the locked down remote exam was in 2011

but even the wifes recent 5 year master only had 3-4 of those locked down exams

most of them are fully free

you are only cheating yourself by cheating

[forest edge]

just curious how advanced and elaborate they went with public school remote learning here

[clear ferry]

public school was mostly teams and zoom here, with recordings done in the apps themselves

[forest edge]

I know they did video stuff where they watched the teachers just don't know what the inteteractive aspect part was exactly

[clear ferry]

which works perfectly fine, I do that for my presentations

had a 3h presentation last week

450MB

directly saved to my onedrive

and shared to the participants

[restive vapor]

Proctored exams aren't privacy preserving lol

[forest edge]

I couldn't stand a @midnight adder computer job full time. I know I spend more time gaming then any job would require but just something about "working" makes it dull. Hell when I did website frontend and backend stuff I did that for the fun, not the 9-5 paycheck

[restive vapor]

@clear ferry good luck on ur exams

[clear ferry]

I was in the office in March 2020, I will go in next week to see the new office

[forest edge]

I bet the years just fly by lol

[restive vapor]

My middle school exams is the easiest
Teacher just let's us copy
Don't need to cheat

This year exams

Next year idk

[clear ferry]

When you love you job the years really do

15 years already

would take a lot for me to change jobs

yet I still fish for new offers here and there

to taunt my manager

[umbral cliff]

At schools here they just made the exams harder to compensate for them not being proctored (eg questions that really test you not lazy questions) or they could hold them in person or they used a video call of the whole class.

Uni tried to introduce proctoring software for exams, got fought back to at most be record your screen or be on a teams/ Zoom call

[forest edge]

fought over privacy?

[umbral cliff]

Yep

[forest edge]

dosen't that seem silly

[umbral cliff]

Students didn’t want proctoring software (well browser extension)

[forest edge]

it's like one of those double edge swords

[umbral cliff]

And also the accessibility issues weren’t handled (eg people who need to get up during an exam)

So fair points made

[forest edge]

who need to get up? you mean bathroom breaks?

[umbral cliff]

No people have educational plans to allow them to get up for breaks during exams, or extra time, or other accessibility things

[forest edge]

when i went to school they had a separate class that dealt with that specifically for people who needed it. It was just a class to handle all the other classes stuff that would have been too difficult for the student to do during the same time along with all the other students

I would imagine they could have easil;y done something seperate for them through remote exams

[clear ferry]

we had special needs in our classes when I grew up

I spent three years in a smaller class with a deaf student

that was interesting

I've learned very little sign language come think of it

[umbral cliff]

I’m talking for uni, where everyone is in together

School would do separate exams

Uni doesn’t have the budget for that lol

[restive vapor]

Does it load for everyone
https://cdn.darrenmc.cf/dont_mind_me_just_mining_your_discord_channel_by_nonogamer9_de5eztt-fullview.png

[clear ferry]

zzzzzzzz

have to cancel my physical exam

to be able to book the same exam as home exam

now to find that hidden button somewhere

Actually had to open chat with Pearson Vue

😄

[umbral cliff]

Sounds like a wonderful company to deal with

Ngl gonna book an in person exam for me, can’t deal with proctoring

[clear ferry]

I hate sitting in those cramped booths with 6 other people who are trying not to cough

being watched anyway

[umbral cliff]

Guessing Canberra is small enough there won’t be too many

[clear ferry]

Well, CCNA booked, AZ900 booked

Now I need to wait for my DCV-VCP7 voucher

and find something else to do as well 🤔

maybe I should do some HPE ones

I have none of those

feck it, I ordered 3 HPE vouchers too

should be able to do those without studying, since I deliver training on the same material to our partners

😄

[finite atlas]

i dont see anythingy, maybe a torch will help

[clear ferry]

What is this

A german trying humour

I don't believe it

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-stare-serious-eating-gif-14309125

[finite atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-crying-tears-depressed-unhappy-gif-15679110

[shadow prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/bratwurst-imbiss-zwei-bratwurst-bitte-telekolleg-imbiss-deutsch-gif-18110145

Atxbyea fire up the grill, time for bratwurst

[clear ferry]

I do love bratwurst

I've only been to Essen and the surrounding area in germany

however, I was in a german resturant in Barcelona

it was fantastic, a gay german man and his american partner ran a german resturant in a small alley downtown

bratwursts and weissbiers all around

let me find it

[shadow prawn]

Yeah in the Ruhrpott

[shadow prawn]

Sounds bavarian

[clear ferry]

looking for it on maps now

http://www.teufelskueche.es

There we go

This was also great

https://www.carlotaakaneya.com

[shadow prawn]

You ate some schweinshaxe? 😂

[clear ferry]

Think I did one night

[glacial knot]

I feel like you linked that before as well atx

[clear ferry]

Interesting rules in Barcelona, you can close your bar anytime you want, so if you want your guests to sit longer you can pull the door shutter halfway down, that means there are guests still inside, but no new guests are allowed

which was interesting

I sat there until 4am one night

[clear ferry]

wonder if I can use one of my raspberry pi zeros as a NUT host for my upstairs UPS now that I retired the z2m pi

the one I usually smoke @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

Surprised you haven't water damaged it 😄

[earnest schooner]

yoyoyo. i just found out there is a way to make tuya products local !

[clear ferry]

I don't drool that much

mr dry mouth thank you

https://tenor.com/FpYW.gif

[earnest schooner]

dewut?

idk im coming to share good news but okay

[clever mortar]

You got lost on the way to the #integrations-archived channel

[proven spruce]

local you say!?!?

[clear ferry]

WHAT IS THIS LOCAL YOU SPEAK OF

Zigbee crew

[earnest schooner]

i dont need help or advice or anything...

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/Q1EQ.gif

[proven spruce]

what sorcery is that?

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/witchcraft-hunchback-of-notre-dame-frollo-claude-frollo-tony-jay-gif-4873960

[clear ferry]

Nothing Croatians are allowed to have

[earnest schooner]

yes xD there is a HACs addon thingie to localise the device

its a whole process to setup but it works xD

[proven spruce]

who knew that was possible...

[earnest schooner]

i dont know if your sarcastic or not

[proven spruce]

me neither

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcameter-sarcasm-meter-sarcastic-gif-14555952

[earnest schooner]

i am confusion

[clear ferry]

Curious if I get data line with this too, so I can power it off the UPS serial to usb port and talk to it at the same time 🤔

https://www.cytron.io/p-rpi-zero-w-usb-a-addon-board-v1.1

That would be awzm

Both USB data and power are connected, so Raspberry Pi Zero will become USB powered too, no additional cable or wires required for power.

apparently...

https://tenor.com/syJf.gif

now to find one of those syphilitic SD cards

[low harness]

@earnest schooner There's a reason this channel has been put in the basement nowadays, as you see...
Localtruya is nice. I haven't had much luck with it, but lots of people love it so I guess that's just because I didn't put enough time into it.

[clear ferry]

Basement you say, my favorite place

[proven spruce]

you should rename the group from lobby to basement 😉

[glacial knot]

says the guy with his office in the attic

[clear ferry]

But I have my server room and music studio and workshop in the basement

🤔

[proven spruce]

music studio?!?!

[earnest schooner]

havent had much luck, you mean it didnt work for you?

[low harness]

It worked for a while, then stopped. I didn't bother to try to find out why.

[clear ferry]

Well, 8 guitars, 2 bass guitars, 1 slide guitar, two pianos, a drumkit and more fun stuff

[earnest schooner]

strange

[clear ferry]

don't know what else to call it @proven spruce

[low harness]

I got better lights instead 😉

[proven spruce]

me neither, i don't music

[clear ferry]

tuya wifi is utter cancer anyway unless you have esp chips you can flash

[low harness]

I'm guessing somehow the lights got reset and lost their local key or whatever it's called. And since I don't have any android or windows devices that's a pain to get.

[earnest schooner]

ah yes... thats a thing xD

[umbral cliff]

I use it for the LED strip I have... until I can be bothered to resolder the chip and replace with a tasmota compatible one lol

[glacial knot]

I assume you are proficient with the triangle then.

[earnest schooner]

why not simply use it with every single tuya device since it makes them local anyways?

[clear ferry]

I haven't played the triangle in decades

thankfully

I should get a gong though

[earnest schooner]

cause from my understanding your taking the local key and adding it into HA

[clear ferry]

Wonder where I can get one of these bastards locally

https://www.kjell.com/no/produkter/data/datatilbehor/usb-tilbehor/usb-adaptere/adapter-usb-hunnkontakt-til-usb-b-hannkontakt-p38853

Perfect

[earnest schooner]

why would you need something like that?

[glacial knot]

this looks illegal

[umbral cliff]

Why? Because I still didn't want Tuya based running in my home, also because I want something thats guaranteed to be 100% local and not going to cause issues

[clear ferry]

Yes officer, this guy right here

[earnest schooner]

ah so because you dont like tuya as a brand (?). and that it doesnt flip over and stops working

[glacial knot]

@clear ferry didn't you say tp-link is cool? https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/tbthjj/psa_newer_tplink_routers_send_all_your_web/

[clear ferry]

tplink omada is supposedly good

I use the 108poe switches myself for media and office

this is for the consumer low grade routers I guess

[umbral cliff]

I don't like internet/ cloud based devices at all

[glacial knot]

probably the all in one combo boxes, ye

[clear ferry]

looks like it is just sending fingerprints of traffic, similar to suricata from that article

[umbral cliff]

At least that could foreseeably be a bug in the shitty router firmware

[clear ferry]

which is totally fine

[glacial knot]

still a booboo if disabled

[umbral cliff]

Router firmware is hot trash on a good day lol

[clear ferry]

I haven't run a consumer router since 1999

can't help you

😄

[umbral cliff]

Velop?

Thats consumer

[clear ferry]

it's not a router

[earnest schooner]

huh, but they are made to work locally with localtuya, does that not make them offline devices. or do you dislike ddevices that were built to work online/cloud?

[umbral cliff]

It can be one

[clear ferry]

it can

[umbral cliff]

And the TP link one includes their mesh devices too

[clear ferry]

no routing happens there anyway

[umbral cliff]

Because its not made to work with localtuya, they're hacked to work with it

[clear ferry]

I also have tried blocking / redirecting the DNS queries, but this results in the router getting stuck in retry loop (thousands of requests a minute), and a big spike in router CPU usage as a side effect. The fix really needs to come from TP-Link.

LOL

that is shitty behavior for sure

Similar to my daughter when I'm trying to take a shit then

"DADDY, DADDY, DADDY"

[earnest schooner]

ohh yeah i get what you mean. i have been talking with a guy that does home automation to figure out how to setup zigbee things but its taking some time

[clear ferry]

cpu load increases

[umbral cliff]

Why not just ask in #zigbee-archived

[earnest schooner]

i get the gist of the workings of zigbee, but i dont get how i am supposed to like roadmap things, what to buy and how to setup and if the things i buy even work together

[glacial knot]

just drop the requests on the outgoing firewall
oh wait 😂

[umbral cliff]

So #zigbee-archived or #hardware-archived

[earnest schooner]

ye

[clear ferry]

Americans saying /etc always makes me laugh

Yeah, go to itsi resolv dot conf

Imagine people running home assistant on a rpi0

I'm getting frustrated just installing nut

[scenic radish]

are you that weirdo that says "et cetera"?

[clear ferry]

No, I've grown up with e t c

we spell it out

[scenic radish]

ew

[clear ferry]

😦

It seems like a murican phenomenon, I have only heard americans say it

what do you germans say @glacial knot

or the brits @clever mortar

[clever mortar]

Say it in full, because Latin

[clear ferry]

you say etcetera ? 😄

[clever mortar]

It's two words 😉

[clear ferry]

oh my Dog

you are both mad

So blokes, go to SLASH ET CETERA SLASH RESOLV DOT CONF innit

[umbral cliff]

I say etcetera lol

[clear ferry]

now just wait for the germans to come around and say SLASH ETSEHN SETERANZEN SLASH RESOLV DOT CONF

[umbral cliff]

Though on linux i say e t c

[clever mortar]

Yeah, when talking about the file system it's /e t c

[last dirge]

I say it like that site where people make stuff

[umbral cliff]

etsy?

[last dirge]

yeah

[umbral cliff]

We've found the weirdest 😄

[clear ferry]

See

[scenic radish]

i'm firmly in the et cee camp

[clear ferry]

muricas

[scenic radish]

not etsy though

[clear ferry]

so far it is a murica thing then 😄

[last dirge]

I pronounce etsy et cee

[scenic radish]

with a slight pause between syllables?

that's what i was trying to get at

[last dirge]

insofar as multi-syllabic words have a pause between syllables

do you say go to / v a r?

[scenic radish]

🤢

[last dirge]

or / s y s

[umbral cliff]

var and sys are english words

[scenic radish]

tinkerer probably says vet artera

[last dirge]

or / m n t

[clear ferry]

I say mount var sys home opt

but I say e t c

[glacial knot]

to? et cetera? etc.

[last dirge]

INCONSISTENCY

[clear ferry]

@glacial knot /etc

[glacial knot]

e t c

[umbral cliff]

e t c not et cetera for linux

in spoken words then et cetera

[clear ferry]

The cat is gonna be furious when I tell her

Again

Norwegian birds just bounce, no flying btw

[scenic radish]

are they actually real in norway?

[finite atlas]

the camera is smart and knows, that the cat identifies itself as a dog, so there is nothing wrong

[clear ferry]

Not according to @forest edge @scenic radish

Ah, PC cameras @finite atlas

Good to know

[bitter pawn]

@clear ferry is that shinobi AI? or camera integrated?

[clear ferry]

Frigate

and Coral

[opaque girder]

at night it thinks cats are humans on mine

[clear ferry]

Maybe they are ?

[opaque girder]

they turn into cats when looked at

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/S6oa.gif

[opaque girder]

blink and you'll miss it

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bkDqQ.gif

[opaque girder]

The angels are coming

[clear ferry]

Imagine Thanasis walking up my stairs, Frigate goes "SEXY GREEK 101%"

You should see me play Zorba in Hangout @opaque girder

[orchid rose]

pain, https://twitter.com/YTVanced/status/1503052250268286980

Vanced Official (@YTVanced)

Vanced has been discontinued. In the coming days, the download links on the website will be taken down. We know this is not something you wanted to hear but it's something we need to do. Thank you all for supporting us over the years.

Likes

13459

Retweets

2800

Twitter · Mar 13, 2022, 4:55 PM

[finite atlas]

NewPipe > Vanced

[orchid rose]

Is it? Gimme the scoop

[clear ferry]

Lulz

YouTube Premium is fine

[orchid rose]

If you're not used to anything better I guess

[clear ferry]

As long as I don't have ads on 3+ accounts without having to change the software every 6 months I'm fine

[finite atlas]

no ads, no youtube account needed, fully customizable, downloading stuff directly in the app

[orchid rose]

but I want to use my YT account. Does it still support it?

[clear ferry]

Eh, the $15 a month for Up to 6 accounts is so affordable i couldn't bother circumvent it

[orchid rose]

But it's not just the YT ads that I'm annoyed by, but the content ads as well. YT doesn't let me skip those, nor silly "previews" etc that I don't care about. It's just a worse app that they offer

[finite atlas]

idk, its not like vanced wont work anymore either, they just arent allowed to work on it and distribute it anymore

[clear ferry]

There is absolutely no ads with premium, so never seen any since I purchased it

Only reason I bothered was because of kids

I don't notice any if I'm onsite at customers tbh

[orchid rose]

I don't know what channels you watch but 90% of what I follow have ads on them (again not YouTube ads but ones where the authors themselves shill for a product they've never tried)

[clear ferry]

Oh yeah I don't do YouTubers at all

But never see anything when my daughter is watching stuff either

Just the video itself, nothing more

[orchid rose]

okay boomer 🙂

[clear ferry]

[finite atlas]

i'm the opposite, i avoid channels putting extra ads into the video

[orchid rose]

Nothing wrong with either imo. Skipping them is the best of both worlds for me

[fallow karma]

That's YT Vanced ;)

[clear ferry]

I digress there is two YouTube content creators I bother following

Suitcase monkey

And vaatividya

[orchid rose]

not watching ASMR smh

[forest edge]

wtf it's too cold there for people to let their cats free roam outside.

[clear ferry]

Hey, we had +10c today

.c2f 10

[velvet horizon]

:thermometer:

Celsius To Fahrenheit

10 degrees celsius = 50 degrees fahrenheit!

[earnest schooner]

okay im gonna dip into the OTA word, sadly localtuya doesnt support led stripes and dimmers, bigsad

but im getting there xD

[restive vapor]

Mine

.c2f 30

[velvet horizon]

:thermometer:

Celsius To Fahrenheit

30 degrees celsius = 86 degrees fahrenheit!

[brisk glen]

No ads at all with my adblocker on YouTube as well… arrrrr

I even force the native os video player

[clear ferry]

Eh, doesn't work that well on tablets

And i get offline content for the kids when travelling by plane or summer holidays

[forest edge]

summer holidays huh? you must be refering to tending to your micro garden

[umbral cliff]

Might be because they tried to do an NFT https://reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/te33og/youtube_vanced_speculation_that_profiting_of_the/

[restive vapor]

What can I do with this type of cable

[young sigil]

Self flagellation.

[restive vapor]

Ok

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/ZFC0.gif

[restive vapor]

They are electric wires

[young sigil]

As opposed to... water wires?

[clear ferry]

angry plumber noises

[restive vapor]

I know it's a wire but what can it be used for

[clever mortar]

Connecting things that don't draw a lot of power, likely low voltage too

[restive vapor]

So I can use it just like any normal wire

[clever mortar]

Within the bounds of sanity, yes

It's wire, it doesn't really care what you use it for

[clear ferry]

It identifies as a high voltage line

[clever mortar]

Put enough power through it and you get a hot cutting wire though

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bpsHw.gif

[restive vapor]

Yes
It's a high voltage cable

[cedar chasm]

Your country/region may have specific meaning related to the colours.
For safety and compliance you should conform to those codes.
Disclaimer: this Discord or it's users are not responsible for anything that happens to you during your electronics tinkering

[clear ferry]

We are surely responsible for everything online

right

[cedar chasm]

Nah, keep on swatting

[clever mortar]

We may however laugh a lot if when you set fire to things

[cedar chasm]

Yes, nothing personal, it's just the internet

[clear ferry]

Oh, fire

[restive vapor]

What netrual conductor neans

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/wQ18.gif

Interesting that the Cisco CCNA exam gives you partial credit

I've never had exams do that before

[clever mortar]

You probably want to ask the folks on an electrical Discord/reddit/etc

There should be some good primers for your country's wiring codes too

Getting mains voltage electricity wrong is a memorable experience, if you survive it

[restive vapor]

It's another ground line

So this cable have
1 live wire
2 ground wire

[cedar chasm]

No, no, no

[clever mortar]

You have three wires

Depending on the type of wire, the colours may mean something - though it's still technically only a recommended something

Don't confuse mains voltage standards with low voltage standards, with HV standards

[restive vapor]

Don't plan to use those on mains power through

[shadow prawn]

Is something written on the isolation

[umbral cliff]

If you don’t want to use this on mains then the colours sometimes don’t mean anything

Even more so for your own stuff

[umbral cliff]

Don’t connect it to mains unless you know what you’re doing though

Mains being 120v AC or higher

[restive vapor]

I will not connect it to mains
If I am doing that I have electrocuted myself

[clear ferry]

Ah, got my OnePlus Buds Pro today

they are really good

And very affordable

[proven spruce]

how much in rubles?

[clear ferry]

I have a flight next week, so I'll get to test the noise cancelling then

@proven spruce roughly a whole nations

[umbral cliff]

Well no. Connecting it to mains doesn’t electrocute yourself. You can do it safely. I presume you do not have any clue about electrics so yes that probably would kill you

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/beaker-muppets-electricity-science-gonewrong-gif-7600414

[shadow prawn]

So its written on it what its usable for, as long as it complies to your local standards

[restive vapor]

For non mains connected items
U still have the red black colour rules

[clever mortar]

You should look inside a desktop/tower PC at some point

[restive vapor]

I do have a pc

[clever mortar]

Look inside, at the wiring

[clear ferry]

Just snip the SATA cable right away

you can see the colours inside

[restive vapor]

The pc is still usable

[clever mortar]

That's easily fixed

[restive vapor]

If manufacturer have to follow the red live black ground thing
Isn't the power switch wire a violation

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/bLPd1.gif

[clever mortar]

#the-water-cooler message

Also, I hate to break this to you, but the whole world doesn't follow your country's electrical code

[clear ferry]

americans mains wiring

https://tenor.com/47Gi.gif

those cables make me really shudder

don't remember the name anymore

rotaflex or whatever

and then there is @forest edge house

[low harness]

Oh. Is that KULO? The lead sheathed stuff?

[restive vapor]

Is this type of color accepted?

[clear ferry]

[low harness]

...probably not with those modern ducts... just a bad job

[restive vapor]

Yeah it's a cable from one of my project

Should I rewire it

Behind it is a another project of mine

@clear ferry

So what should I do

[restive vapor]

What should I do

[low harness]

That was not for you

[clear ferry]

ach, need to shave , I haven't had time in 4 weeks

I look like I'm playing in a swedish metal band of the 80s

4mm to much on my head

[restive vapor]

Is Lego a good case for electrics

[clear ferry]

After that I can fix the DX7 II power supply

and then book my ASE exams 🤔

[restive vapor]

@clever mortar yep I use Lego for my projects

Mini lamp

Mini pump

Hello??

Hello??

[clever mortar]

Are you three or something?

Normally after that point people grow up enough to stop repeating themselves to demand attention

https://tenor.com/view/please-stop-person-of-interest-gif-5626846

[forest edge]

silly norwat, your confusing me for vasiley

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/babRx.gif

Ah, freshly shaven

[forest edge]

so you look like what happens when you shave a dogs butt and teach it to walk backwards huh

[green inlet]

Just curious, personal knowledge or the internet?

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/_2vMXBLPC7E?t=12

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

i choose mist

[umbral cliff]

Technically wireless communications would use copper as the medium to the end user

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/AcU7.gif

[fossil verge]

Good morning! I have a Maoam dispenser at home that automatically issues a Maoam with a servo motor. Until now, I've always controlled it with an Arduino. Recently I have a Raspberry Pi with HAOS and wanted to ask if I can connect the servo motor to the pins of the Pi. Can I then display this donor as a device on the dashboard, i.e. that I make the donor smart? If so, how do I code the positions of the engine in Home Assistant?

#diy-archived

[clever mortar]

Well, you found the one channel in which your question is 100% off topic

You can't use the Pi, but you can use an ESP running ESPHome or Tasmota

#diy-archived would indeed be the channel you want for that

[forest edge]

I thought there was a library for the pi gpio for ha

man catalytic theft has gotten so bad there is a company that makes a steel wire strap with an alarm that gets attached along side the exhaust to help prevent catalytic theft

not sure what the alarm uses but when a human hand gets near it, it triggers

[fossil verge]

Nobody answered there :(

Okay thank you. No option with the Pi. Sad, because the Pi stands next to the dispenser

[velvet horizon]

@fossil verge Please DO NOT cross post. Read the channel description, post it and wait for folks to respond. Crossposting wastes people's time as they're unaware of the help you're getting elsewhere.

If you don't get any responses after an hour or more, and your message is no longer on screen, it is fine to re-post or post a link to it.

Command '~crosspost' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[umbral cliff]

Not a huge issue here, but why I’m happy my car has it’s cats embedded in the headers, a PITA to remove

[shadow prawn]

Sadly my car already has a catalyst

[clear ferry]

Catalyst IOS ?

[low harness]

I just learned India separates numbers in groups of TWO

Like 12,34,56,789 is 123 million 456 thousand 789.

[clear ferry]

Interesting

[low harness]

That's almost as messed up as the sick f**s indenting their code with three spaces.

[clear ferry]

There is a different in norwegians too, depending if you were born in oslo, or not

people who were born around oslo had two digits in their calling code

other parts of the country had three

so oslo people say xx xx xx xx xx for phone numbers

we say xxx xx xxx

[low harness]

In Sweden the area codes are two to four digits, then the local numbers are five or six digits (mostly). But everyone writes even the same phone number differently anyway.

This is sooo weird. I'm watching someone display their screen from India and I need to recalculate every single number mentally to understand it.

[shadow prawn]

Catalytic convertor, my bad, the car is still not old enough

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hoi4-hearts-of-iron4-stellaris-sakurasou-puds-gif-24119980

[shadow prawn]

Gladly it already has Procon Ten

[static schooner]

I have trouble wrapping my brain around the exchange rate that pays entry level engineers in millions of INR

I recently spent hundreds of millions of INR on lab equipment

I'm waiting for them to just drop the last three zeroes like many folks do for South Korean Won

[clever mortar]

I remember a trip to Italy when they used the Lira, and being shocked at things costing thousands of Lira... before my brain caught up with the exchange rate

It was in the region of €1:1500 Lira

[umbral cliff]

Funniest part about travelling, you get to feel like a millionaire

[hybrid obsidian]

@jagged knot Were you talking about MariaDB?

[jagged knot]

what was the problem with it?

was it too new/old or?

I had some random issues quite recent when tried to set up photoprism and nextcloud. Will go with postgres next time for sure.

[hybrid obsidian]

The default configuration at the time was not flexible in tuning. I wanted a larger InnoDB memory pool to see if it resolved the issues I was having with History.

(Was not? Is not? I don't know which.)

[umbral cliff]

All our numbers have 2 digit area codes, (02/03/04/etc) which all refer to states except 04 which is mobile and one or two other special use ones

[hybrid obsidian]

Ah, @jagged knot I see you're running other things on the machine you have HA on. I just have HA on it, or I'd spin up a VM for HASSIO somewhere.

[snow hedge]

You know, I'm looking at getting AC, and I was about to call someone with the intention of getting a nice Daikin setup, went back to the integration page and found that big ugly warning: https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/daikin/

Which immediately makes me hard no. It makes me wonder, those sort of things must be hurting companies wallets at this point. I get tempted to email them and just sorta query if they have a local API, then go oh, no API? Not for me. Thanks.

[hybrid obsidian]

Would you like my feedback on my Daikin 4-head system? It's trash 🙂 🙂 🙂

I did find modules for $60 on eBay that support the old API, and work with my system.

[snow hedge]

Don't suppose there's a nice non shit system I can buy. Got a 6 bedroom house and looking to spend some money 😉

[hybrid obsidian]

Mitsubishi

[snow hedge]

really? the integration says cloud polling?

[hybrid obsidian]

from a mechanical perspective, Mitsubishi is the way. You can also get 24VAC adapters, but unlike the Daikin system they actually work!

But if you want an A/C system that has the fan run 24x7x365 and blow all the humidity back into your home: go Daikin!

[snow hedge]

To be clear: I'd rather have nothing than something that depends on cloud functionality

[hybrid obsidian]

And the Daikin 24VAC adapter asks the AC system nicely to heat or cool, and the thermostat is RIGHT IN THE UNIT which means it reads the temperature wrong .. and the min setpoint is 18C