the-water-cooler

[static schooner]

pics are fine here

[static schooner]

that offends my American eyes 🙂

[warped sage]

For the life of me I can’t replicate it on my keyboard

Sorry lol

I found ó and ø but never together

[static schooner]

Google image search doesn't know what to make of that

[frank anchor]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combining_character ?

[warped sage]

I know. I tried it too

I think you’re on to something

[frank anchor]

ǿ

https://onlineunicodetools.com/add-combining-characters

[warped sage]

Thank you so much!!!!!!

[frank anchor]

looks like I did it lol

ǿ

u︠n︠i︠c︠o︠d︠e︠ i︠s︠ w︠i︠l︠d︠

[warped sage]

It sure is

Which tool did you use?

Found it

Thanks again

[dull plaza]

Any tried by yourselves soft for finding and deleting of photo duplicates pls?

[last cedar]

I haven't actually showered for about 4 or 5 days

But I am a raccoon, after all

[late gate]

I can smell that

[last cedar]

Don't get smelly like I did before

https://tenor.com/view/the-doll-beauty-smells-good-yummy-gif-10255068

[late gate]

I wonder what covid have done to shower habits of people lol

[last cedar]

Mine are far worse

🤣

[late gate]

saving the world

[last cedar]

Nah, good anti persperant actually works

And I don't do as much heavy work anymore

Just got to keep naughty bits clean and fresh and I'm good

[late gate]

true

[last cedar]

I actually was working on installing stuff in a container today

Shipping container. Thick, hard metal sucks

[orchid rose]

I'll skip the shower here and there if there's no webcam involved

it's nasty

[green inlet]

Glad we are all virtual. A couple stinky people in here 🤣

And my hygiene habits are ….. most would say ….. below average

[finite atlas]

luckily i shower daily..

[wintry hazel]

Yeah I also either shower at night before bed or in the morning before work. Can't have the office ladies think I smell

Woke up this morning to find I am mentioned in the changelogs to something for a minor suggestion I had

[orchid rose]

Just use a shitton of cologne to cover the smell. Ladies love that

and by cologne I mean Axe

[wintry hazel]

I think Axe is your country's equivalent of Lynx, so you nailed that one

[orchid rose]

I think Lynx is your country's equivalent of what everyone else calls Axe 😉

[wintry hazel]

Same thing different wording

what is one thing there is another thing here

[shadow prawn]

We call it ekelhaf

[wintry hazel]

Suddenly not sure if serious

[wintry hazel]

Also I know Lynx must at least also exist in UK because it wqas in Big Shaq's Mans not hot

[orchid rose]

the what now

[shadow prawn]

Two plus two is four

[wintry hazel]

minus one that's three quick maths

https://tenor.com/view/big-shaq-mans-not-hot-michael-dapaah-ting-goes-skrrra-gif-10323716

[finite atlas]

agreed

[last cedar]

So nice not being smelly at all (normally)

Antiperspirant and a couple sprays perfume

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-mic-drop-wwe-raw-wrestling-gif-21301381

[shadow prawn]

Time to shower now

[clear ferry]

I'll do smellovision with you

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-alexix-rose-youre-like-a-big-dirty-raccoon-raccoon-annie-murphy-gif-23711157

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-disturb-naughty-dog-sniff-smell-gif-5217384

[green inlet]

😍

[green inlet]

This is a bit more than smellovision

[wintry hazel]

the fan on my Pi's PoE hat is getting noisy

Maybe my HA should get migrated soon

[clear ferry]

To a sensible system

I agree

[golden knot]

Is there a hacs channel in here ? Want to post my question in the right spot...

[clear ferry]

They have their own discord

[velvet horizon]

Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

Command '.hacs' was invoked by: atxbyea

[forest edge]

a stacked mudhut is still a mudhut

[umbral cliff]

@forest edge didn’t realise you had a cafe in australia. Thought you would’ve been afraid of the wildlife

[green inlet]

Or the outdoors

[static schooner]

that's what my cat thought about this thread 🙂

[dawn prawn]

They don’t have Sonoma in Melbourne?

[static schooner]

my cat managed to post a random tenor GIF, so I deleted it and left the cryptic comment

[forest edge]

it's a name of prestige and respect. not surprising companies copy off me

[hushed basalt]

@clear ferry why do people use RedHat

[strange crag]

cos it has enterprise support

[wintry hazel]

So I got given an old Clipsal C-Touch Colour screen that looks like it runs Windows XP Embedded... I wonder if I can change its OS and function to something useful to a modern smarthome

Or just see if its touchscreen ribbon connects to a pi :p

[forest edge]

ribbon connected to something proprietary most likely lol

[wintry hazel]

It's CBUS so literally anything goes

but honestly if I break it, I will be doing the world a favour. A network connected device running XP embedded is about as safe and secure as living in the caldera of a volcano\

[forest edge]

just need a usb port

[wintry hazel]

This little thang?

It would actually be cool. It’s got external monitor, serial/com port, ps/2 mouse or keyboard port, IR receiver, audio 3.5mm line in, the colour touchscreen, and about 3 RJ45s, although two are designated for cbus so who knows how they pin out

[glacial knot]

But is it the same amount of cool?

[wintry hazel]

no probably not

[static schooner]

Sounds on par with many ATMs

[wintry hazel]

I would make a HA connected ATM given the chance too

[forest edge]

so slap linux on it

or chromeos

[wintry hazel]

I think it only has a 256mb sandisk flashcard atm and both of those may be a bit much

it's probably going to be more like strip it and use it for a wall mount Pi case

[forest edge]

uh if it has xp on it, it can run linux

manjaro will fit on anything lol

[wintry hazel]

I’m actually pretty confident that screen ribbon is not proprietary and/or this board is based on something existing

[forest edge]

dunno, tons of screen controller boards out there

I wouldn't waste my time with that tho, i'd slap something basic and just use it as a dashboard for HA or something

[clear ferry]

Because it is one of two good Linux options with enterprise support, albeit the worst of the two

[hallow willow]

Hey everyone, my ordroid is arriving today, super excited to start using home assistant! I'll be needing this discord server a lot I'm afraid 😂

[clear ferry]

https://i.redd.it/7hkrwnqaepd81.png

[umbral cliff]

Welcome onboard! Enjoy spending hours of your life tinkering and looking up new devices

[umbral cliff]

Where’s the deploy direct to prod 😂

[clear ferry]

[last cedar]

This one?

https://tenor.com/view/cleaning-viralhog-cat-raccoon-cuddle-gif-18899168

[forest edge]

that gif cuts out a mere second before that cat loses it

[wooden egret]

Interesting, a zigbee IR blaster
https://aliexpress.com/item/1005003772831987.html

Does ZHA even support this class of devices

[clever mortar]

#zigbee-archived would know

It's Tuya though

[wooden egret]

oh I thought that channel is for support only

[clever mortar]

Z2M does support it

You're asking if ZHA supports it...

[wooden egret]

i mean, my original intention was to just share a cool thing and maybe discuss it, but fair enough

[proven spruce]

you broke another one!

[forest edge]

careful, i called a millennial a millennial once and got smacked down. you throwing the N word might cause some thunder

[clever mortar]

Too late, somebody got themselves a timeout

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/appurajosh-gif-21504421

[clever mortar]

again

[umbral cliff]

It will ****

[proven spruce]

don't post on discord before your morning coffee

[forest edge]

i blame atx really, he brings forth the hate

[proven spruce]

or anywhere for that matter

[clear ferry]

Did someone say HAOS?

[umbral cliff]

Yes. It’s good

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

I prefer HAOS because it’s just a VM image with no setup needed

I’m lazy

[clear ferry]

Pleb

[proven spruce]

just... 🤣

[green inlet]

Of after your sixth alcoholic beverage, which I guess is also before your morning coffee.

[forest edge]

I have spent entirely too much money on amazon in the past 8 months

[umbral cliff]

I have enough complicated stuff to bother with docker containers and add on containers. Lazy is great way of living

[clear ferry]

Disgusting

[umbral cliff]

Let’s take away your credit card

[clear ferry]

He probably pays by wire transfer

With his landline

[forest edge]

well most of it isn't exactly money out of pocket but yea no shit

I give them atx's cc

they decline and say they don't take mud tokens

[umbral cliff]

I’m young enough to have no real clue what the heck that is

[clear ferry]

Sorry, i blocked usage in the us, it's so full of criminals

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/micheal-jackson-dancing-smooth-criminal-lit-turnt-gif-9318199

[clear ferry]

You probably haven't even seen dialup before

No wait

You live in Australia

[green inlet]

On fire today huh 🤣

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/call-calling-dial-up-internet-modem-gif-8187684

[umbral cliff]

Funnily enough I saw it in Singapore not australia

[forest edge]

isn't dial up what other countries call "fiber"

[clear ferry]

No, starlink is what Americans call ftth

[forest edge]

I hear starlink is actually pretty good

[umbral cliff]

Australia we’ve had Cable internet since the late 90s

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-hill-jpg-blurred-pixelated-gif-5624624

[umbral cliff]

So faster than dialup

[forest edge]

you might need to invest when norway caves in on itself and your all floating out to the alantic

[clear ferry]

We got cable modems in 97, it's long since dead, but I hear docsis 4 is now rolling out over the pond, now you can get 1600/4Mbit

[forest edge]

we don't actually need to torrent for anything worth having tho atx.. like tv shows, movies.. software

[proven spruce]

i torrent all my linux distros

[umbral cliff]

Think docsis 4 can actually get a few hundred up to 1000 down. Which is good (not as good as fibre, but still good)

[clear ferry]

Oh shit

So 2004 tech

[forest edge]

hmm it's up 10gbs

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/linux-linus-linus-torvalds-middle-finger-fuck-off-gif-16334894

[umbral cliff]

In a lab

[forest edge]

and?

[umbral cliff]

Docsis 3 could do quite fast. But in the real world no

[umbral cliff]

I’m talking real world

[clear ferry]

Real world numbers of docsis are usually a lot lower

Just Bury 1200ft of cat5e

[umbral cliff]

Docsis 3.1 can do 10/1 (gigabit)

But in reality not gonna get that

[forest edge]

even if it's half it's still decent

was it like 10 down and 6 up or something

consumers don't need that much lol

[umbral cliff]

No it’s usually 50 megabit up max

And gigabit or two down

[forest edge]

we hit more than that now

[umbral cliff]

On HFC/ Cable?

What do you get

And what provider

[forest edge]

spectrum but they all offer it

trying to find what the upload speed is

ew 35

[clear ferry]

Exactly

[forest edge]

but then again that is plenty

[umbral cliff]

That’s my point. Upload is always terrible

[clear ferry]

Docsis is great for milking the consumers without upgrading the technology

[forest edge]

i am positive they can do more, they just don't

[clear ferry]

Just like 2.5G

🤢

[umbral cliff]

Still a good stop gap until they roll out something else

[clear ferry]

Not really

[umbral cliff]

50 maybe 100 if download is cut

But no

[clear ferry]

It's a horrible technology

[umbral cliff]

Cable is a single copper core. It’s impressive we get the speeds we do on singular cable

[forest edge]

point is doc 4 is still gonna be faster then what you stated above lol

[umbral cliff]

Okay? And fibre is a better investment overall

People could get 2 gig symmetrical

[clear ferry]

Best effort real life for docsis 4 will probably be 2000/100

Which is ridiculous

[forest edge]

they are not going to rewire an entire infrastructure to fiber if they can milk coax for longer

[clear ferry]

There we go

Milking

[umbral cliff]

It is decent enough for most consumers though

You have to admit that

People need download not upload

[forest edge]

truth is current speeds are fine for what we need

[clear ferry]

It has way to many pitfalls and variables to be decent enough

[forest edge]

if your doing buisness you get a buisness line which can do what you need

[umbral cliff]

In australia the HFC network was a good stop gap to save money at first. It was FTTN which was crap

Well is crap

Because the copper was never maintained so it’s shit from the node to you

[dusky plank]

it comes with a fairly high latency cost too, speed alone isn't all

[clear ferry]

https://www.ragnsells.com/what-we-do/inspired/telenors-copper-network/

[dusky plank]

0ms gang represent 🙌

[umbral cliff]

I’m from australia, sub 10ms to the rest of the world doesn’t exist 😂

[clear ferry]

Sub10

That is optimistic of you

[umbral cliff]

Lmao

[umbral cliff]

You do have the advantage of size there. Being able to focus so much

[forest edge]

if we're talking gaming latency I sit around 20's

[clear ferry]

Lol 20

[umbral cliff]

100-300 for me for us/ uk servers

[forest edge]

I can connect to china with 50

[clear ferry]

I remember having 100-150 to the US in 2002

Norwegian servers at the time was 5-10

[forest edge]

well local is way lower

but cross country is around 20's

only when i go outside of the states does it rise

[clear ferry]

Most servers were across the country

I have around 4ms to my father's house, 2500km away

Don't think I've ever had above 5 internally in Norway the last decade

[forest edge]

anything below 100 is barley noticable regardless

[umbral cliff]

Ping to Sydney is 8ms. Not bad when on wifi and streaming video (fibre from modem)

[forest edge]

those speeds

gross

[umbral cliff]

I pay for 100/20

Don’t need any more

[clear ferry]

My 300/300 connection on wireless

[umbral cliff]

It would be a waste of money

[umbral cliff]

Then my ping to Perth

@forest edge no point in paying for more than you need. You said that before about how docsis is perfectly fine for people

[forest edge]

remind me to never play on au servers

[clear ferry]

Give me the IP to that Perth server @umbral cliff

[umbral cliff]

No clue. It’s just the AARnet Perth server

[forest edge]

what are you paying for what you got?

[umbral cliff]

I pay for 100/20. I get 110/25 on Ethernet

So I get more

[forest edge]

and that is.. how much

[umbral cliff]

Oh you mean price?

$99/ month. Because australia there lol

Split between 3 not too bad

[forest edge]

$99 au bucks or us?

[glacial knot]

Do you have to rent part of the intercontinental lines with that price? 😄

[umbral cliff]

Dollarydoos

[orchid rose]

So four times the speed of light? mmhm

[clear ferry]

Selected Perth in speed test

[orchid rose]

no wait milliseconds, not micro

[umbral cliff]

Nah just stupid government who thought we should be making money on the nbn not writing it off as an investment

[clear ferry]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

Not bad

[orchid rose]

someone check my maffs, is it 8ms for 2500km

[forest edge]

so you pay around $138(us) for 100/20 and I pay about $60 for 350/30(us) so... at some point a consumer should atleast pay fair price for the speeds they get even if those speeds are enough for thier needs lol

[orchid rose]

we'd have much better pings to US if we could get cables from lapland to canada instead of going all the way south

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-flash-barry-allen-run-fast-gif-6144593

[umbral cliff]

2500/4 is 625

So… twice the speed of sound?

[orchid rose]

needs to go the 2500km twice

since it needs to come back too

[last cedar]

8 mins 12 seconds from the sun, iirc

[umbral cliff]

So 4 times then

[clear ferry]

To st Louis Missouri

[last cedar]

Sun is about as far away as Perth

[umbral cliff]

Yeah it’s fair price for australia. But not much can be done. Not until australia decides our internet infrastructure should be an investment for the country not something that needs a return on investment and to make profit

[forest edge]

eat it atx

[umbral cliff]

Wow you’re closer. Big surprise

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

AARnet has 100gig links to the USA

It’s the research network

[forest edge]

closer? he lives on the alantic cable lol

[clear ferry]

Let me check aarnet

[umbral cliff]

Which goes via Asia

You lot go straight to australia

He goes either via the USA (thus you’re closer to Perth) or he goes via Asia (which is slower)

[clear ferry]

13500km

[forest edge]

his distance to the node is much closer

[umbral cliff]

To Perth? No…?

[forest edge]

no

[umbral cliff]

You said eat it here, with a screenshot to Perth

What did you mean

[forest edge]

I don't even see norway in the list

give something close atx

[clear ferry]

Oslo

[umbral cliff]

I found it easily

You just need to look up town names

@clear ferry what’s the best Oslo server

[clear ferry]

They are all great

It's Norway remember

[clear ferry]

[dusky plank]

i got 30 ms to oslo

[umbral cliff]

Yeah but we’re talking milliseconds

290 here lol

[dusky plank]

203 to perth

[umbral cliff]

The only ping competition I’ll win is if it’s within australia

[forest edge]

the take away I see here with all the images is atx's connection outside of norway is not much better than coax lol

higher upload speed but not by a whole lot

[clear ferry]

Why would I ever connect outside of Norway, this is why we have CDNs

[umbral cliff]

To be honest though. Whatever internet hardware is used, as long as it does everything you want reliably then it doesn’t matter

My grandma could live on adsl and wait for buffering streams

[orchid rose]

This would be nice

[forest edge]

in gaming eye whatever allows you to play on other country servers without shit ping is end goal

[clear ferry]

Lol playing across continents

[forest edge]

people connect to US all the time

especially asia

[clear ferry]

Damn hackers

[forest edge]

thankfully they connect here, not the other way around

[clear ferry]

[umbral cliff]

A lot of the servers I play on are based in Europe (though I also game mostly with European friends) which makes things… fun

[orchid rose]

I used to play a game that had this one russian guy from Vladivostok playing on European servers. Apparently he got a better ping there than the Chinese servers

[forest edge]

plus au dosen't have much of shit lol

[umbral cliff]

We have some servers. But a close enough connection that Asia is good enough

[orchid rose]

Icelandic servers would be fine for both Americans and Europeans for most games if there was better cables. Right now the speed of light just screws us

[forest edge]

thankfully most everything is US based for us so we don't have to deal with any of that

[orchid rose]

Well it would be more fun to have Americans around

[forest edge]

east coast players do play on euro servers

alot

but pacific coast players do not lol

[orchid rose]

Sure but any competitive game and it sucks for both if you play across the pond

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-ping-pong-funny-animals-cats-gif-8766860

[forest edge]

dpends on the game, i play a game called rust on euro server from time to time and have no issues

[orchid rose]

UK gets sub 100ms, but I'm somewhere around 150ms already

[forest edge]

shit like call of duty would suck tho for me

[clear ferry]

Just play hearts

[forest edge]

too bad the original doom didn't have a huge online multiplayer thing.. atx might actually be bitching about his interwebs

[clear ferry]

Well

I played doom online

Over dialup

[forest edge]

lol

[clear ferry]

It was a thing

Albeit we started with LAN parties in 96

[forest edge]

yup, while everyone else went off to play more modren shit, you just stuck with the original doom all by your lonesome

[clear ferry]

And we had broadband from 97

So it really wasn't an issue

[forest edge]

sit at home bragging about your coax speeds with original doom lol

[clear ferry]

It's not our fault our network speeds in 97 is similar to your modern stuff

[forest edge]

but it your fault your network speed now is similar to our "modern stuff"

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

your download speed is pretty close to mine and your upload speed is pointless lol

[clear ferry]

So having 1000/1000 available since 2015 is similar to your 330/15 mbit is the same?

[forest edge]

i mean. google fibre is 1000/1000

just because I don't have it dosen't mean the speeds aren't available

I kind of wish I did just to see what my speed test would be to au and oslo etc lol

[forest edge]

have gf has been avail since 2010

[clear ferry]

So, my current 370/330 on a 300/300 is the same as your 330/15 then, is that what you are saying?

[forest edge]

is a load of crap is what i am saying

[clear ferry]

[glacial knot]

Save your sanity

[dusky plank]

windows best

[clear ferry]

Watch it, or I'll bring up beos

[forest edge]

you were still on dial-up with the rest of us in 97

the wiki for norway is not kind

wtf xfinity is offering 2Gb/s already

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

verizon.. they always been ahead of the curve

[umbral cliff]

From what I’ve heard they’re a shitty company

[forest edge]

but they are such a shitty company

too funny

[clear ferry]

That's capitalism

[umbral cliff]

Less so than Comcast though

Heard they be injecting stuff into your traffic

[forest edge]

like what?

not heard anything about that

comcast is a big supporter of data caps

[umbral cliff]

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/comcast-still-uses-mitm-javascript-injection-serve-unwanted-ads-messages/

[forest edge]

but they keep getting shot down

[umbral cliff]

Very safe activity

[forest edge]

weird I have a friend in jersy on comcast he never said anything about that

maybe thats only in some areas

[clear ferry]

Or most people don't know

They just get used as the product

[forest edge]

he would know lol and he would bitch

oh wow didn't know we had a consumer provider who actually offers 10g

usually that shit is for buisness class only

[clear ferry]

Think the Swedes have had 10g available for consumers since 2013 or something

[forest edge]

we probably wouldn't even have some of this shit avail if it weren't for those people in maine who created thier own fibre network just for thier small town lol

wtf you norwats were paying over 80 bucks for adsl?

I feel like the norway wiki is missing some vital information lol

that or you guys really did go from shoe string to fibre in just a few years

although if adsl was 80, the holy shit 1000/1000 fiber must have costs more than your house

[clear ferry]

We got 10/10 fiber in 2004 for $40 a month

The docsis stuff in 1997 was 768/96 or something

ADSL was 1mbit in 2000

1000/1000 is currently $150 a month if I remember

No caps and ad injection though

[forest edge]

your internet history is weird

not sure where the rankings come in but your wiki has you guys as complete shit

[orchid rose]

Sweden was ahead of us in the early 2000s. Not sure about Norway

[clear ferry]

Think we were similar

Sweden was way ahead

[forest edge]

I honestly don't remember 2000, pretty sure we were broadband by then but I myself may have still been on dial up

I don not remember

[orchid rose]

we had ISDN I think in 2000

[forest edge]

my girls dad had ISDN but pretty sure that was in the 90's

[clear ferry]

We had ISDN from 95

[forest edge]

comcast is the 4th largest isp in the world lol

[orchid rose]

ADSL connection prices from 2000 to 2004

[forest edge]

crazy adsl is still a wide spread thing

[orchid rose]

thankfully faster than 256kbps these days 😛

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/aol-internet-dialing-connecting-gif-4039466

[orchid rose]

haha, found a web page comparing prices from 1999 https://www.netlab.tkk.fi/opetus/s38118/s99/htyo/23/hinnat.shtml

The computer network laboratory is now part of the Department of Telecommunications and Computer Network Technology. The information on this page may be out of date.
orly

[forest edge]

that page was made back in the 90's

I see what the rankings on wiki is for

percentage of pop to having internet access

[orchid rose]

"single's day" 1999

[clear ferry]

Norway was actually the first country to be connected to ARPANET outside of the us

[forest edge]

first non english speaking country according to the wiki

[orchid rose]

I converted the ISDN price to today's value and was like that can't be right, 17€... But those were paid by the minute weren't they

[forest edge]

dosen't it make you feel all warm inside that the US is the reason the world has internet?

[orchid rose]

1999 ADSL would have cost 161-217€/mo, yikes

[clear ferry]

Well, if they didn't make ARPANET someone else would

[forest edge]

what is paid by the minute? internet usage via adsl?

[orchid rose]

via ISDN

[forest edge]

weird

[strange crag]

if they hadnt assasinated Tesla we might have had that a a few other things much earlier!

[forest edge]

we didn't get charged by the minute

[clear ferry]

We had a lot of fixed price dial up stuff in the 90s, think it was €170 per month for unlimited

[orchid rose]

I think you could get ISDN in both monthly pricing or by the minute, but my memory is hazy

[clear ferry]

Before we had fixed price i used €350 per month Mostly

[forest edge]

anyone here ever had a pager? remember those? those you would get charged by the text lol

[clear ferry]

Yes

My father had one

In 1993 or something

[strange crag]

I had a pager for a short time - shitty little devices

[forest edge]

I have my translucent neon green one still somewhere in a box

they were neat for the time

[strange crag]

one way traffic that was charged expensively

[clear ferry]

1984-2003 we had pagers it seems

[strange crag]

luckily I dodnt have to pay for it

[clear ferry]

Don't think I saw one after 1995 though

[orchid rose]

I've never seen a pager

[forest edge]

pagers are still a thing or was till recently

[orchid rose]

We got mobile phones pretty early on with Nokia and all that

[forest edge]

still used for buisness stuff I believe

[clear ferry]

I had my first mobile in 1996 or 7

[forest edge]

mobile, you mean brick?

I had a brick then I had a flip phone that was heavy as all hell lol

even had a craddle for it for my truck at the time, gave me hands free calling

[strange crag]

no point in still using pagers other than wont be hacked cos its so useless, since we all have mobile phones that do text meeages

[forest edge]

that cradle is sought after by museums now cause it was so rare for people to have lol

[forest edge]

pretty sure some buisness's still use them. they are reliable in coverage and only one way

hell mine worked in a cave

never had a cell phone do that

even tho they are pretty much the same cept pagers are all cdma or something

[strange crag]

pagers probably still work on analogue circuits - and they dont exist these days

cdma has mostly gone too

[clear ferry]

Nokia 1610 was my first one, so 1996 sounds right

[strange crag]

you missed the iconic cockroach? the nokia 101? tsk tsk tsk!

[forest edge]

https://www.spok.com/blog/throwback-thursday-history-pagers/

knew people still used them

i would see them every once in a blue moon on someone's table at a restraunt etc

[clear ferry]

Nothing surprise me with the us

[orchid rose]

I think I was the first one in our class to have my own phone. Nokia rinGo 😄

Either 1996 or 1997

[forest edge]

it's not just the us you hater

pager hater

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-boomer-the-office-old-man-michael-scott-gif-15530652

[forest edge]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stupid-younger-generation-young-old-pissed-gif-5068746

bored still banned?

curious if he just passed out

[strange crag]

what did he get a ban for? Or are you yanking chains?

[forest edge]

I don't know if he was banned or muted or what

[strange crag]

ahh - ok

[brisk glen]

life is good when you have at least 500 Mbit down in every corner

[nocturne aspen]

Im trying to integrated my car with Home Assistant. I dont know much about automotive engineering, so its all like a black magic for me. I have managed to dump CAN messages in the following format:
197#0E80000094800854 039#002A 3F8#0000000016242820 18E#00002F 136#000000000000003B
am i correct to assume that this means <message type>#<message value>?

[clear ferry]

There is already odbii to WiFi adapters

That should do that automatically afaik

This one does it via Bluetooth to a mobile device to ha

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/torque/

[nocturne aspen]

yeah, i have been planning to use Torque before, but quite important things like fuel level, autoalarm state, etc are not disclosed through standard OBD2 messages

and to be honest, having HA know about autoalarm set off seems much more useful than just logging vehicle speed/engine parameters

thats why i need to somehow find the relevant messages in can

[clever mortar]

There must (still) be automotive Discords/forums that discuss this kind of thing, though I've long since lost touch with them

[clear ferry]

This is why i have a smart car

Volvo integration is great tbh

[forest edge]

what do you get from it? reminders to change your oil?

think the only bit of information i would want in HA from a vehicle would be batt perc and maybe if the anti-theft was triggered

[clear ferry]

I can keep statistics based on how often and how much I fill the tank, how often i charge the battery, how much windscreen washer fluid I use, how long my average trips are

Should I keep going

Plus i can make the heater start automatically when i unplug my phone in the morning

[forest edge]

but for what purpose

[glacial knot]

don't scare people with how well your car is made 😂

[brisk glen]

Graphs

[proven spruce]

s.t.a.t.i.s.t.i.c.s.

the thing you don't like

[clear ferry]

How well Chinese cars are made you mean

[glacial knot]

your car. Not your people's cars

[forest edge]

lol yea, auto coloring books

[proven spruce]

you know when people ask you how much MPG you get in your car but then you do an entire presentation with graphs and slides. that's why!

[brisk glen]

Wana feel like a race car driver

[forest edge]

tracking certian data only tells you what you already know.. your car is aging

[glacial knot]

MPG 😂

[clever mortar]

It tells you how though 😉

[proven spruce]

i had to use fantasy units so sonoma understands

[clear ferry]

Moiles purr gawlown

[orchid rose]

data can tell you a lot of things and you can sometimes learn something useful from the weirdest things

[clever mortar]

Also, I'm sure you could use some of that to spot problems when they start, and are easy/cheap to fix

[clear ferry]

[forest edge]

but still mute

[brisk glen]

Problem… don’t forget oil change

[forest edge]

the onboard comp already does that for you

no need for graphs

[brisk glen]

Problem 2…. Don’t ever let your gas run out

Problem 3…. Change your tires when you are supposed to

Result? Your Toyota should last 300k

[forest edge]

yet only lasts 80k regardless

[brisk glen]

Ones at 150k, other is at 140k

Still going strong

[clear ferry]

I change tires twice a year already thank you

[forest edge]

just don't see a point at collecting data just for the fact of collecting data

[late gate]

Im concidering buying an apartment. Im so tired of renovation and yard maintainanace

[clear ferry]

I'm considering buying a house twice the size i have now

[forest edge]

now tracking batt perc on vehicle and mowers.. that be nice

[late gate]

maybe barcode in oslo or something

[strange crag]

yeah -eat plenty of beans!! that will keep your gas charged! lol

[forest edge]

well don't many of you run diesel.. just swing by a fast food place and dump used cooking oil in it

I need to refind that video where they had converted a diesel car to run off cooking oil

[late gate]

How big is the volume vs mount "volume" in docker (eg native volume in (/var/lib/docker) vs /mnt/to/files)

[errant path]

For Home Assistant, do u guys like Alexa or Google Home better? I have both to try out, will return one this week but we cant make a decision!

[forest edge]

rather than picking on based on how well it interacts with HA (which can always change) I would look up which one does what you would use it for the most (aside from HA control) because they both excel at diffrent things

[clear ferry]

Did you try looking?

[errant path]

hahahahahaaaa

thats hilarious

[hallow willow]

I prefer google home assistant because it has a switch to turn the microphone off, which actually cuts power to the microphone. With Alexa I believe the microphone is always powered

Also, Google speaks my language, while Alexa is just english

[clear ferry]

I prefer Google because Amazon isn't a thing here

[errant path]

which does integrate best with HA? I like things about both lol I need someone to be the decision maker.

Alexa has more 'conversations' with you, shes an ugly sphere though. She tries to 'learn you' and can pair with more devices. She hears even over the TV better and she does actually have a power off button (ontop). The notifications for every amazon thing gets a bit tiring though.

Google is more beautiful asthetically, it has better audio and pairs with the google search engine, but aside from looks and sound I think the brains behind it is kinda dumb, it also has a hard time hearing us over the tv.

[fallow karma]

There are rumors that some of Google speakers have spoken my language

[clear ferry]

I use voice for... Nothing but gimmicks anyway

[forest edge]

you gonna get the alilexpress one when it comes out?

[clear ferry]

My house automates around me without interaction

[clear ferry]

Gladly

かわいい

[errant path]

yeah but we like being able to ask google/alexa to set a certain like scene, blue lights for example

[forest edge]

tech speaking google is the smarter of the two

[clear ferry]

Why not set a scene based on a button or a specific time of day + button or if person X is home and person y is gone and time of day

[errant path]

really? how so?

I liked that alexa has like an AI built in, shes trying to understand I guess. or maybe it just gives off the appearance of such things?

BTW can Home Assistant somehow allow Google to notify you if your fire alarm goes off? I know Alexa has that built in, as well as baby crying

[clear ferry]

Sure, if you have smart fire alarms

[errant path]

the scene is more for like 'okay movie night!' or if we want to know how far something is we ask google, or if we want to know when something closes if we are running out of the house to do errands we have x y z

yeah im in an appartment, no smart fire alarms. was hoping there was something to say 'hey - I HEAR an alarm' and notify

alexa has that built in apparently

[forest edge]

or just buy a wyze cam and put tape over it. it has built in notifications for fire and co through sound

way cheaper alternative lol

[clear ferry]

Lol wyze

[forest edge]

it works great i tested it. it will pick up the alarm from 2 floors away

[clear ferry]

Wyze isn't even supported by HA anymore, because they were dicks last i checked

Unofficial API

Very promising

[hallow willow]

haha

we do have amazon and Alexa and stuff

[hallow willow]

I don't know how it is with Alexa, but with Google Home you have the issue that if you add multiple users to the house it creates duplicates for each device. This is easily solved by creating "Duplicate houses" in your google home app but it still annoys me

[forest edge]

apparently alexa can do the sound thing for fire alarms too

[errant path]

wowww thats impressive! yeah wyze is madd cheap!!

[forest edge]

thats neat

[errant path]

yeah alexa and google both are F'ed up with their users

[forest edge]

alexa guard is what they call it

[errant path]

right now it annoys me to no end that my husband set it up, and now I dont have access to the home assistant stuff we add, so he has to manually add it.

how do u do the duplicate house?

[hallow willow]

Just create a second house in your Google Home app and put all the duplicate devices in there

You can just assign devices to a different house in your app

[errant path]

interesting...

[hallow willow]

You could also just keep 1 user but that means google can't learn your voice for example, so you can't have routines per user.

[errant path]

idk, husband likes google, I like alexa now. I wish I could put alexa in the google looking pill shaped device

exactly yeah thats annoying too

[hallow willow]

Why not use them both 😄

[errant path]

cuz i already have homepod so I can have it track our iphone locations lol

so Im like maxed out with these things

[forest edge]

wtf both google and alexa want a subscription fee for that sound detection stuff.. f that

[errant path]

yeah exactly, wyze is a much better solution for that

[forest edge]

yea it's free aside from the cost of the camera.. just buy a v2 if all you use it for is the sound detect

[errant path]

right yeah i have aqara cameras i love very much

[hallow willow]

What do you mean with the sound detection stuff

[errant path]

but have had the worst time trying to get them integrated into home assistant

right now its integrated via homekit on HA but its VERY CHOPPYY

sound detection = tell me when the fire alarm is going off and im not home

[forest edge]

they detect when smoke alarms etc go off in your home

[clear ferry]

Wyze is great if you like a product that can stop working any moment

[forest edge]

I mean, that can be said about any product

[hallow willow]

Couldn't you just buy a zigbee smoke sensor and have an automation in Home Assistant to trigger a sound file through the house?

[clear ferry]

Well, "unofficial API" isn't a great selling point

[clear ferry]

Yes

[forest edge]

don't need to even intergrate it into HA for that

[errant path]

smoke sensor isnt a bad idea

[clear ferry]

How often do you have fires? I have 12 smoke detectors in my house, last time one was triggered was probably 2010, because I burned something in the oven while cooking dinner

[forest edge]

you know they go bad right?

maybe you hadn't one trigger cause none of yours is still able to work lol

[clear ferry]

Sure, we replace them every 10 years, and batteries once a year

We test them at least twice a year

[forest edge]

so every 10 years your buying expensive "smart" alarms that don't ever go off

when you could just replace one device

that makes cheap alarms smart

[clear ferry]

No, i don't use smart alarms

[forest edge]

oh

[clear ferry]

I have one, on my 3d printer though

But the ones I have now are wirelessly connected

Was an offer through the insurance Company

[forest edge]

to each other you mean?

[tidal bronze]

You don't have to print at full speed

[forest edge]

I have those, those are still dumb expensive compared to normal ones

I wanted them cause they speak and tell you which one was triggered

[clear ferry]

They cost $10 each with the deal

[forest edge]

mine are like 50 a pop

[clear ferry]

600mm2/s on an ender 3 brrrrrrrrr

[tidal bronze]

Print at brim speed so no need for smoke alarms.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-very-sloth-slow-gif-15401812

[forest edge]

did cali's just remove theirs all together? I would imagine with the state being on fire so much they would get annoying

[tidal bronze]

The most important sensor in the house. That stays.

[errant path]

well i had a time where my cats stupidly turned on the igniter on our gas stove and leaked propane out for a full day while we were away.
Another time my computer caught fire.. I was home when it happened, GPU had a random fire running just google chrome

[forest edge]

did the cats survive?

[errant path]

yeah lol cuz it was just leaking gas slowly into the air

we came back and smelled the hallway was filled, opened our door and had to open all of the windows dead of winter

[forest edge]

lol

I have a seperate NG detector in my basement just for the gas driven stuff but it's not linked to my smoke alarms

[errant path]

ng detector?

[forest edge]

natural gas

[fallow karma]

Natural. From your bowels?

[late gate]

ender @clear ferry you should join the prusa gang like the pros

[forest edge]

I don't know if it would detect methane or not lol

[fallow karma]

Nah , it's for people who can not tune REAL printer

[tidal bronze]

Some tune, some print.

[late gate]

ender is not a REAL printer, its creality noob

[hallow willow]

wtf 😮

[fallow karma]

What a fun is to buy a printer which works OOB

[hallow willow]

Next time you should be very very very careful opening or closing anything when there's gass in the house, as opening a door can cause a spark

[errant path]

holy crap

the door???? how??

[hallow willow]

metal on metal

[fallow karma]

Or static spark

[hallow willow]

gas needs just a very very tiny spark to ignite

[late gate]

@fallow karma I had a creatlity. Looking at upgrade costs I could buy a prusa. Though I bought the build kit prusa, so learned a lot by building it almost 100% from ground up

[errant path]

geesh

so bottom line though (back to the original q), u guys mostly prefer google over alexa - because its all u have available?

[late gate]

I prefer alexa, but using google

[tidal bronze]

Had Alexa back in the day. GA now, and all day.

[late gate]

I prefer the wake word alexa is easier to say, and I feel alexa understand better non us speakers (even if I speak english at home I notice a difference)

speed I feel alexa is also a bit faster on local control

but that could be some nabu casa issue as I get a lot of nabu casa issues (cant reach nabu casa errors)

[fallow karma]

I build kind-of-prusa from scratch. With steel frame

[hallow willow]

No, Alexa is available here aswell. I like the Google Interface more + works better with android devices and chromecasts and stuff + it speaks my language. Alexa is better with routines but I will be doing all that through home assistant anyway

but you should just go with whatever fits your needs the most. I like the fact you can give Alexa multiple names like echo or dot. With google it's just "hey google"

[errant path]

yeah why?

[late gate]

@fallow karma I have not even turned on my mk3s in a year so I might sell the whole thing

[fallow karma]

Same here

[errant path]

thanks guys!

[hallow willow]

So guys I was just wondering, I want to intergrate google with home assistant. Should I go the manual route or go the Nabu Casa route?

[clever mortar]

Yes

#integrations-archived can guide you further, but it depends on whether you want to pay for the easy button, or get it free for a little work

[late gate]

I dont know, but maybe a speed difference with manual route as you can do a server very close, but I have not tried it. I use Nabu Casa for supporting HA

[hallow willow]

ah great, thanks 😄

[tidal bronze]

For me GA much better at handling commands. Speed, both were equally fast. Mainly I like how GA integrates with android, don't have to unlock to issue a voice command. I rarely use it now but prefer GA. If you have to issue voice commands all day then you are not using HA as you are supposed to. 😀

[forest edge]

I want to see the injection mold for those 3M picture hanging velco strips. that's gotta be some black magic type shit right there

[late gate]

@tidal bronze I always have issues GA just think for 10-15 seconds after a command, then turn on the lights and say "could not talk to nabu casa for home assistant" or something

[tidal bronze]

I don't use NC. Direct integration, been like that from get go.

[static schooner]

there's a known performance/scalability issue with NC Alexa/GH integration that they're working on

[late gate]

@tidal bronze direct how?

[tidal bronze]

Even with cloudflare, GA ips white listed it's lighting fast.

Look at the docs for integration. It's been years since I looked at them.

[clear ferry]

The same people who run unifi? No thanks

[errant path]

noob Q but am I suppose to be able to view my HA via my https://example.duckdns.org:8123 port?

[clear ferry]

Well, depends on if you did everything you need to do

[clever mortar]

Only if you set up port forwarding, and SSL

[clear ferry]

But not here

[velvet horizon]

The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

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Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

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[clever mortar]

You want your install method channel, or #general-archived

[errant path]

oh sorry ok

[clear ferry]

Woohoo, my 100% paternity leave was approved in less than 10 days, a working state system @forest edge

[finite atlas]

how long is your leave?

[clear ferry]

40 weeks over 3 years

50% year 1, 80% year 2-3

[finite atlas]

neat

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-pam-diggstown-103-count-me-in-gif-23833418

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-she-said-laugh-gif-12908770

[fallow karma]

Motherf***ers turned off my HboGo

My tv is not supported anymore

[finite atlas]

stay nice

[static schooner]

The HBO apps are...not good. It tells me that my sub billed through YTTV is expired about once a week

Last I heard they acknowledged it and were rolling out new apps. Maybe you got screwed in the process

[scenic radish]

You need a router that supports VLANs and firewall rules

[clear ferry]

Did someone say networking

[orchid rose]

I thought your only trigger word was Cisco

[clear ferry]

Did you say unifi

🤢

[orchid rose]

Can't keep up with all the hate nausea

[shadow prawn]

Social networking 😟

[late gate]

uuuuunnnnniiiiffffffiiiiiiiii

[clear ferry]

🤢

Brits fully open now

[late gate]

I prescribe you https://www.felleskatalogen.no/medisin/afipran-orifarm-healthcare-545798

[clear ferry]

Guessing we will follow suit next week

[clever mortar]

English, yes. The rest of us dance to a different tune

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/wiggle-st-patricks-day-scottish-gif-13283392

[late gate]

@clear ferry at work

[clear ferry]

L O L

[shadow prawn]

What was the norwegian word for blowjobs before the translation

[late gate]

demolition work

[shadow prawn]

Du kan sa det på norsk hvis du vil

But thanks

[clear ferry]

Sprengningsarbeid, is literally exploding work

But blowjob isn't far off

[fallow karma]

Akershus . I read a book for children about it . Jø Nesbø

[fallow karma]

I got to call Lars 😆

[late gate]

Im sure he will be happy for that

[fallow karma]

Hi Lars. I've heard that you do blowjobs

[shadow prawn]

But not felt anyone, time to change this

[clear ferry]

If you want to read a good Norwegian book sophie's world or through a glass, darkly or the solitaire mystery is very good @fallow karma

[shadow prawn]

Is it something for beginner , probably not?

[clear ferry]

Well, they are translated to English i believe

But Norwegian overall is very simple

Compared to say, advanced level English

[orchid rose]

How is your autonomy in regards with this stuff? Complete?

[shadow prawn]

Seems there is a german version also but my intention would be to read something in norwegian

[clear ferry]

I read the silmarillion when I was 15, that was way too early

They should be easy to follow in Norwegian

[shadow prawn]

Okay

[clever mortar]

Varied... we've got as much autonomy as we're allowed if I'm cynical

[late gate]

The longest book I read is Atlas Shrugged

[shadow prawn]

Maybe i will try one of those

[clear ferry]

Kabalmysteriet is my favourite @shadow prawn

[orchid rose]

That's fair. But technically you could choose a completely different direction from London?

[clear ferry]

I should read some Ayn Rand, it'll be after the expanse and Neuromancer

[late gate]

Ayn Rand is a lot of babble

[clear ferry]

I can imagine

[late gate]

one monolouge of probably 200 pages

[shadow prawn]

The expanse i have only seen so far, i am reading «Influence, the psychology of persuasion» at the moment, really interessting

[clever mortar]

Yup, and we have through the pandemic

[clear ferry]

The Kevin mitnick books are very good

The art of deception is my favourite

[shadow prawn]

Too many good books, too little time

[clear ferry]

I read 1-2h every day now

The life with kids

And paternity leave

[late gate]

I was thinking to try the expanse in book version

[clear ferry]

Opnsense

Vyos

Untangle

In that order

Shitty company with shitty standards and ideals

The Apple of networking doesn't help

[clever mortar]

"Prosumer" is a wide range of stuff from neat, to junk

[late gate]

I use it, and it works, but not at enterprice

[clever mortar]

If you want cheap commercial and works then the Edgerouter range is fine, though I like the Mikrotik stuff more

[clear ferry]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/3/31/22360409/ubiquiti-networking-data-breach-response-whistleblower-cybersecurity-incident

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2021/12/ubiquiti-developer-charged-with-extortion-causing-2020-breach/

[sand agate]

Not only that, but ubiquiti's development within the past 2 years has been atrocious

[clear ferry]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/mg2aj7/ubiquiti_starts_serving_ads_in_their_management/

[sand agate]

pfsense or opnsense is miles ahead in terms of routing

Stuff like this is STILL happening... they blame everyone else but themselves https://community.ui.com/questions/strange-MAC-addresses-in-insight-report/321e6759-0af5-4ef2-a3b9-985a7e5b1457#answer/0d3f8860-cfca-41da-b855-2eb564e64e6d

[fallow karma]

I'll consider it

Today my training class was disbanded and our 4,5 day training ended up after one day. Freaking pandemic

[clear ferry]

Mechanics do training? I just though you applied more torque

[fallow karma]

I am not exactly mechanic

[orchid rose]

strength training

[fallow karma]

I am tech specialist , called in our company Cotech. And EV specialist also.

[clear ferry]

So apply more voltage then

[fallow karma]

How about 40?

[orchid rose]

Seems weak for a pole

[shadow prawn]

Which country are you coming from

[fallow karma]

@shadow prawn ^

[shadow prawn]

Well, at least the booze is afordable in contrast to norway 😂

[clear ferry]

Zubrowka

Is noice

[orchid rose]

It really is

[clear ferry]

Wife got us watching Yellowstone, she lured me in by saying it was Sons of Anarchy with horses

[fallow karma]

It isn't really vodka inside. It's homebrew 'moonshine' made of nuts by our mountaineers. It's about 70% alcohol

[clear ferry]

And it really is

[orchid rose]

There's a prequel for Yellowstone that someone here recommended, right? Weird to see that popping up now

[clear ferry]

Yes

1883

Watching that afterwards

[orchid rose]

Yeah that one

[fallow karma]

Anyone uses Xiaomi TV stick 4K ?

[shadow prawn]

Only firetvs 💁‍♂️

[scenic radish]

I like my edgerouter x, but you really need to have a decent knowledge of networking because it doesn't hold your hand much at all except for the basics

Or be good at googling. Or both

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/ya-basic-basic-sassy-kristen-bell-eleanor-shellstrop-gif-10568150

[low harness]

Oh, man. YABASIC! The thing Sony did to marked PS2 as a "home computer".

So many long night programming in freaking basic on a CRT at the foot of my bed with a damn playstation controller.

[clear ferry]

Not as fun as creating music on a snes with Mario paint and an actual computer mouse

[low harness]

Did that too. Never had the mouse, though.

[low harness]

Found it!

And yes, I printed the cover myself. Because I'm cool that way.

[raw oak]

gona install Home Ass on my StinkPad 420

[tidal bronze]

Does it matter. Just like HP right ?😆

[hollow glacier]

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/linux-system-service-bug-gives-root-on-all-major-distros-exploit-released/

[finite atlas]

luckily i use windows

[forest edge]

@tidal bronze Godamnit! Will you cali's stop spreading new variants already?! https://youtu.be/4XjB6UPq0Po

http://www.bestemailsoftheweek.com/califborderwall.jpg And we're gonna make california's pay for it!

[tidal bronze]

All for love

[forest edge]

that's the problem, maybe if you bastards would do a little less "lovin" the spread wouldn't be as bad

[tidal bronze]

Kale, coconut water and whole lotta lovin makes everything all so right 😆

@forest edge you should really go enjoy a sunset at the beach.

[forest edge]

and get sand in my ass? no thanks

[hollow glacier]

He didn’t say wear assless chaps

But do you

[forest edge]

the only real reason to go at all isn't it

[hollow glacier]

Maybe

[tidal bronze]

@forest edge little bit of sand is ok as long as it takes that neverending bitterness away, you deserve to be happy.

[forest edge]

you remember that bitterness remark when the first subvariant strain of covid causes your neighbors and mailman to want and eat your dogs

[tidal bronze]

We are very good at making movies in LA and making the world believe, you know that Walking Dead is not real right ?

[forest edge]

you know the lyrics to Don't worry, Be happy isn't
Here's a little song I wrote..
You might want to sing it note for note.
Don't worry, be happy.
In every life we have some STD's
But when you worry you make it HIV
Don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now.

[tidal bronze]

It's Tuesday and already long week.

[forest edge]

well your constantly running around from airport to airport.. i mean

i would just give up and wear rollerskates by now

[tidal bronze]

Lol. Been on a flight at least once a day since Friday.

[forest edge]

f that, tell whoever you are flying to to use zoom or something

[tidal bronze]

I wish. Drones are not that remote, yet. Lol.

I know click bait YT videos say otherwise.

[forest edge]

I wanna hang out with seth mcfairlane lol

[tidal bronze]

Anyway 3 more hours to hone. Finally.

[forest edge]

lol drones. friend got one last year and the first time he took it up the wind caught it and it blew off to never be seen from again.

"welp.. that was fun. Let's head back inside now"

[tidal bronze]

Just like drivers, not all pilots are equally skilled. 🤣

[forest edge]

never seen the wind carry a car away to never be seen from again tho

seen wind carry vehicles away in tornado's but they always find them wrapped around trees or something

[tidal bronze]

Usually the specs state, maximum cross wind handling capability of the flight controller. Perhaps your friend thought it was a one horse cart that you can just jump and go.

[forest edge]

no idea lol

just wish I had been there to see the look on his face when it poofed.. would have been priceless

[clear ferry]

Good thing I don't work for those bastards anymore

[glacial knot]

Are you not with HPE?

[clear ferry]

Yes I am

@opaque girder y'all got snow?

[spice prism]

Oh dang, that’s quite an exploit. Would it be safe to assume the exploit effects Raspberry Pi OS, hence it effects Home Assistant OS running on Pi’s?

[clear ferry]

Not much of an issue unless users are forwarding SSH to their server

Users don't do that

[clever mortar]

HAOS doesn't use Raspberry Pi OS

[clear ferry]

Right

Especially not with a very easy password

And no mfa

[dusky plank]

i only have 1 ssh terminal machine

its in DMZ

think im safe

[clear ferry]

Yeah, I have one jumpstation, only allowing yubikey logins and patched every Saturday

So if I die, someone needs to find my yubikeys

Hint, my daughter steals them

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-pc-meme-matrix-codes-gif-16730883

[spice prism]

Oops, I though it was. What is HAOS based off?

[clear ferry]

alpine

[dusky plank]

buildroot?

[clear ferry]

pootpoot

[shadow prawn]

How is it, that i learned about barrier so late

[clear ferry]

https://c.tenor.com/n5PzjGhvCtAAAAAM/one-piece-barrier-crash.gif

[dusky plank]

yeah i also used synergy until a few years ago

barrier is a great successor

[clear ferry]

I used synergy for a long time

I even have a license

Now I just add more screens instead, i have four, might add a fifth

[dusky plank]

wtf? max i can work with is 3.
the other 2 would just consume senseless energy for me

[shadow prawn]

Well have to work with multiple machines simultaneously

Have one big 40 inch 4K screen

• 4K Laptop

[clear ferry]

I currently do 2x28" 4k + 2x24" 1080p, might add one more 4k soon

[dusky plank]

go with 2x36“ UHD. plenty of space

1080p lol

[clear ferry]

It's fine for pure chat windows

I'm an old man with terminal glasses

The second one just plays my Plex videos

[dawn prawn]

CRT or GTFO

[clear ferry]

I used to have 5 CRTs back in 2005

Three of them were 24" and weighed 42kg each

[dawn prawn]

Sony made a great CRT

[clear ferry]

These were Sony Trinitons

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/1peiky/while_everyone_talks_about_4k_displays_lets/

Three of those

Got them for free too

[dusky plank]

triniTONs 😂 you did that on purpose

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/who-wants-to-be-a-millionaire-wwtbam-millionaire-jeremy-clarkson-reaction-gif-23677103

[shadow prawn]

Reminds me of one of my old sony tvs, weighed 50kg too

[clear ferry]

Good thing I had a station wagon

[dawn prawn]

I had a couple very similar to those

[shadow prawn]

Sounds like some high end shit in their time

[clear ferry]

Yes

They belonged to the x-ray department of the local hospital

They had had them for 2 years or so

And replacing them

So I picked them up

[shadow prawn]

How long is this ago

[clear ferry]

This was in 2005

I have a picture here somewhere

[shadow prawn]

Oh yeah sorry you already wrote that

Would be nice to see

[shadow prawn]

Yeah until it’s broken

[forest edge]

https://youtu.be/CYrunRy8hmw

[clear ferry]

Found my old rack pictures

From when I moved into the house

[shadow prawn]

You should consider this one:

https://youtu.be/gXKZAVEee74

[dusky plank]

is it cars again?

[shadow prawn]

You have all these things powered up at your home 😅

[dusky plank]

german autobahn ftw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7pg1hhW5qhM

[clear ferry]

Not anymore

[shadow prawn]

Well that was where i am living, have allready been sitting in a chiron, too

[clear ferry]

It doesn't look like that anymore

[shadow prawn]

What said your electricity bill to this. I wouldnt know why i would need all these things

[clear ferry]

The stuff that is on is only 10% or so of my electricity usage

[low harness]

There's like one hydro power plant per 100 Norwegians, so it's fine.

Is that a gen10 microserver?

[shadow prawn]

Well, we on the other hand have the maybe highest elevtricity costs in the world

[clear ferry]

Nope

It's a self built mini itx system

[shadow prawn]

Maybe i need a rack one time too

[clear ferry]

https://www.mini-itx.com/store/

These guys are great

The one on top of it is a Edgeline 1000

With a m710x cartridge

[low harness]

I'm thinking of the one with the green rectangle. But I suppose they put that on lots of things.

[clear ferry]

You mean the entire portfolio?

But yes that is the Edgeline 1000

[low harness]

What do I know? My microserver doesn't have it.

[clear ferry]

The gen8 was pre split

So that makes sense

[wintry hazel]

My rack's 6RU

Trying to find a 3U ATX case that'll mount neatly in a wall mount rack ain't easy.

[clear ferry]

Shallow racks 🤢

[wintry hazel]

modest sized houses

[clear ferry]

Minimum 600mm

Preferably 800mm

Or 1200mm

[wintry hazel]

I'm not a datacenter, I need a switch, firewall, HASS, and desktop PC in it

and I only had to run cat6 back from the TV and where the NBN comes in. House isn't that network heavy

Honestly I don't get what you get out of all your stuff for home usage unless you're running a company out of your home

[clear ferry]

It's my lab and playpen

[low harness]

Other people have motorcycles they wash twice a week and drive twice a year 🤷

[shadow prawn]

It’s a hobby 😂

[wintry hazel]

Oh I had one of those to myself at work when I was a network engineer, and am kinda still fine to have left that behind atm.

If I had won powerball to afford my $2.4m house I wanted, though...

(I'd have both the cars and the tech hobby)

[clear ferry]

When you get paid to know stuff, and it takes you 2h to get the gist of a new product, it helps to have a lab

[dusky plank]

apple does some weird mdns > unicast dns things with homepods

it makes me angry

[clear ferry]

🤢

[forest edge]

the kettle is the other 90% right?

[clear ferry]

Now you are thinking about the Brits

[clever mortar]

Who else designs military vehicles with a brew in mind?

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/shortage-angry-gif-23255016

https://i.redd.it/86c806zvazd81.jpg

Speaking of the British

[dawn prawn]

Ours didn’t have coffee cup holders 😦

[opaque girder]

Yeah quite a lot especially where I'm from. Hadn't really stopped for two days to the point it completely covered cars. But stopped since last night now

[forest edge]

man the bells and whistles on the new ev trucks are insane

[polar vine]

Where can I report people to mods?

[clever mortar]

See the channel topic

Also use the Report SPAM button right there