#the-water-cooler

midnight adder Dec 29, 2021, 1:28 PM

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Hi, I face problem connecting to navy casa cloud, is server down?

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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What the.... No, I've never seen, and it makes no sense

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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even fiber channel?

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it makes a lot of sense!

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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glacial knot even fiber channel?

Since it can use dacs, sure

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 1:29 PM

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glacial knot even fiber channel?

Maybe!

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 1:30 PM

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fiber isn't DAC though is it? But that's the type of SFP that would make sense with PoE

clever mortar Dec 29, 2021, 1:30 PM

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midnight adder Hi, I face problem connecting to navy casa cloud, is server down?

Do please read the channel topics

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There's even a channel for the cloud service, conveniently named

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 1:31 PM

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What is it named? Rain?

clever mortar Dec 29, 2021, 1:32 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/guitar-silly-live-concert-shorts-gif-6149345

Tenor

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 1:33 PM

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Otto!

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 1:35 PM

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glacial knot fiber isn't DAC though is it? But that's the type of SFP that would make sense w...

Don't confuse fibre with fiber

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 1:36 PM

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What does fibre mean? Fibre is the same word as fiber. The only difference between them is in their spellings. Fiber is preferred in American spelling; fibre is the preferred spelling in British English.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 1:37 PM

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Fibre channel has both proprietary DAC and optics

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As they run on 1/2/4/8/16/32/64 gbit

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And some internal fc-al is even stranger

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:25 PM

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I hate altibox just offering IPV6RD

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:34 PM

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Lulz

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Poor man's ipv6

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:36 PM

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yeah

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unfi doesnt support it

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well it does, but then I need to use cli

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Lol unifi

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🤢

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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yeah yeah yeah

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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No, the general type of interface (SFP, SFP+, QSFP, QSFP-DD) is having trouble delivering enough power to drive the transceivers themselves as technology advances (100g, 400g, etc.), trying to push PoE over it would go way beyond what those types of sockets are capable of

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:40 PM

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Just implement 2.5g

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No wait

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🤢

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What a shitty thing to introduce in the late 10s, it was fine in 2008, but... As a big thing in 2021

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 2:41 PM

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2.5g...ugh...a solution in search of a problem

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<-- does computer networking professionally, so....has opinions.

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:43 PM

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you guys complaining 2.5g, when I was downloading on kazaa on 56k

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Honestly to me whatever network is cheapest is what I’ll take lol

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:44 PM

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I complain about 2.5g cause it's a marketing split between the 5g it maxes out at

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:45 PM

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when will you ever hit 2,5g?

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 2:46 PM

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2.5 might be useful for storage. About it

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 2:46 PM

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late gate you guys complaining 2.5g, when I was downloading on kazaa on 56k

Oh I was there in those days. I go back to 1200baud on a Commodore 64.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:50 PM

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2.5 is a shitty solution

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It was great when we did it in 2008

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:50 PM

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late gate when will you ever hit 2,5g?

? we already have 2 gb internet

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:51 PM

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To make servers with 1g cards usable for a few more years

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The Americans have 1800/2 internet you know @late gate

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With 20gb quota per month

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:51 PM

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sounds nice

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:51 PM

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my house is using cat 5.. I couldn't use that crap if I wanted lol

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Im happy with my 1/1gb

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 2:54 PM

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I’m content on my 100/20 😛

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:54 PM

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lol dialup

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 2:55 PM

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2.5g was mostly created because newer wifi standards, when adding the throughput available on 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands totaled to around 2.5gbps. Nevermind that those numbers were purely theoretical and would never get hit in real life, so a bog standard 1gbps feed to an AP would be absolutely sufficient. Also, 2.5gbps was about the top at what could be done on 100Mhz rated cat 5e.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Yeah we did 2.5 directly in the midplane

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 2:55 PM

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forest edge lol dialup

It’s shit but honestly works fine for a small household, no need to go faster

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:55 PM

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Which was easy enough

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:55 PM

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I thought 5g was the top that could be done on 5e?

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 2:56 PM

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nope, 5gbps requires 250Mhz rated cable, which is cat 6

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well..."requires"...it's one of those things that'll probably work on cat 5e, but it's not in spec

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 2:56 PM

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yea. i get 1g out of my cat 5 and it's not rated for it

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5 not 5e to make it clear lol

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 2:58 PM

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5G is also an abomination

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Just do 10

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Consumers don't need more than 1 anyway, the prosumers can piss off and people who have a real interest will just run 10/25

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beardmogi

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I work more in the service provider world, so I'm going from 10 to 100. 🤷

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Yeah, I did 100 three years ago already

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200 is rolling out now

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 3:01 PM

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clear ferry Consumers don't need more than 1 anyway, the prosumers can piss off and people w...

Hey 2.5 is great for storage. Let me have my prosumer world

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:01 PM

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umbral cliff Hey 2.5 is great for storage. Let me have my prosumer world

pepe_nopers

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:01 PM

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yeah, I was doing some 100, then changed jobs and just getting the new gig to start moving to 100.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Did a 100g spine with 40g leafs in 2018

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It was never put into production

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Because the project got scrapped

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 3:02 PM

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@clear ferry you are just spoiled by enterprise equipment

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Well yes

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Prosumers are just shitkids

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 3:03 PM

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clear ferry Consumers don't need more than 1 anyway, the prosumers can piss off and people w...

what they use to say about 10/100

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:03 PM

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my previous gig was doing 100g down to active-active 25 to end hosts, so an effection 50g for each host

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:04 PM

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Yeah, most end is 25 these days, 40 is dying since we started doing it a decade ago

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:05 PM

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meanwhile, my current gig is internally using 40g exclusively instead of 25g. 🤷

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 3:05 PM

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clear ferry Prosumers are just shitkids

Salty

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:06 PM

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You should see me in customer meetings @umbral cliff

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https://tenor.com/view/get-to-work-work-simpsons-smithers-trendizisst-gif-15496843

Tenor

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I've got some prosumer gear at home...the annoyance is that most prosumer folks just don't have a real clue what their needs actually are.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Bigger is better right?

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Right?

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DogeWink

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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gold plated hdmi cables make the video better

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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clear ferry Bigger is better right?

older which is bigger does not mean better lol

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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smoky vector I've got some prosumer gear at home...the annoyance is that most prosumer folks ...

Something that works that doesn’t break the bank yet let’s me have control on what I want to do 😛

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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clear ferry Bigger is better right?

Size does matter 😉

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:07 PM

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Did you say unifi?

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🤢

umbral cliff Dec 29, 2021, 3:08 PM

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clear ferry Did you say unifi?

Haven’t purchased anything. Just had strong recommendations

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 3:08 PM

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don't mind atx, he's gotta go attend his tape drive

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:08 PM

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I've got unifi APs...I've used worse.

late gate Dec 29, 2021, 3:12 PM

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what is wrong with your ap?

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:15 PM

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my biggest gripe with them is the management tool is a bit flakey...the APs themselves seem to pretty much keep chugging along with no problems

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 3:15 PM

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with the exception of those wall wart ap's I never seen an ap that didn't work well

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looking at tp link

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I've found ones that are easy to overload. But that's about it
60ish devices on a 20€ AP was a bit much

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 3:33 PM

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My biggest issues with unifi is their shitty handling of customers, with forced advertising, telling customers they will brick their hardware if they upgrade and their downplay of data leaks that turned out to be even more ridiculous than first thought

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Doesn't help that their userbase think they are network security experts since they can click on a ui

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:37 PM

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glacial knot I've found ones that are easy to overload. But that's about it 60ish devices on ...

The datasheet for the U6-LRs that I have say 300+ connected clients supported. Using standard datasheet math, I wouldn't run more than 150.

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I think the one I had there said 32^^

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actual capability in terms of some tables might have been 64

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I assume that the 300+ is 512 clients for everything that has static entries. But don't want to make any guarantees upward of 300 because MAC starts getting iffy

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:48 PM

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You know, I've never really dug into what the limiting factor on APs typically really is. My guess is cpu to track and manage active associations.

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:49 PM

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I know that at least the cheap ones have static table sizes. Which sets a hard limit
And I'd have to look into my old slides, but there's also just simple maths around probabilities and exponential backoff

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but that's less of a specific AP issue and more a general one.

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:53 PM

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I don't do wifi for $dayjob, so I've never dug that deep to learn.

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:54 PM

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I've dug way to deep into wifi (at)university. So I have a good theoretical understand of the standards and how it works
I also know that almost every major vendor tries to kinda not follow the actual standards to get ahead in the game...

smoky vector Dec 29, 2021, 3:55 PM

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I mean, that's not just wifi

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:58 PM

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what?

static schooner Dec 29, 2021, 3:59 PM

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I also know that almost every major vendor tries to kinda not follow the actual standards to get ahead in the game...

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:59 PM

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ah, yes. That^^

static schooner Dec 29, 2021, 3:59 PM

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standards are often made by companies implementing what they want and then pushing it in standards bodies

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 3:59 PM

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on that note, don't buy broadcom 🙂

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wifi actually has a bunch of optimum coordination algorithms that aren't stable wrt. game theory. So the skirting of standards improves a single device while it actively hurts full network throughput
Other stuff like extensions to the RTS/CTS are totally improvements on the standard ways

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 4:02 PM

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static schooner standards are often made by companies implementing what they want and then pushi...

Did you say Cisco

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🤢

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:28 PM

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Would $1250 be a decent price to buy this, including shipping?

static schooner Dec 29, 2021, 4:29 PM

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a little overpowered for HA 🙂

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:29 PM

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static schooner a little overpowered for HA 🙂

Haha yes of course

last dirge Dec 29, 2021, 4:29 PM

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it'll cost you half of that in a year in power

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so 🤷‍♂️

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:30 PM

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Well I don't pay for power in my house 😆

last dirge Dec 29, 2021, 4:30 PM

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freeloader

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it'll be better if you can feed it 220V

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Build a whitebox ryzen vs old server gear these days imo

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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hollow glacier Build a whitebox ryzen vs old server gear these days imo

Think I could do that for less than 1k?

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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No idea what crazy hardware prices are right now in your area

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If msrp, absolutely

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:31 PM

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I mainly want to run FFMPEG, then maybe a discord bot, NAS

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 4:32 PM

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X570 mobo, best cpu you can afford, ddr4 3600 ram, quadro gpu if needed

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Maybe ddr5 now idk

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Haven’t kept up

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Might be worth going that route. I already got a case

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Word

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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Or wait for a government surplus deal selling one for $35

last dirge Dec 29, 2021, 4:34 PM

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they don't do that

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you'd have to buy a pallet of them 🙂

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Haha true, depends on the listing

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I actually bought a little tikes PC from a government auction for $1

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$1 for the whole setup 😆

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 4:36 PM

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Do your parents show that to guests when they come over?

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 4:38 PM

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I have nieces and nephews that play the games on it

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Runs Vista lol

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 4:43 PM

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That is a stiff price for a 5 year old tower server

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$200 in CPUs, $100 in memory, and spinning rust is basically free used

hot hearth Dec 29, 2021, 5:11 PM

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when i change the brightness of my lights they go to full before changing to what i set it to 😭

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dims lights late at night
gets fucking blinded before they dim

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 5:12 PM

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clear ferry That is a stiff price for a 5 year old tower server

True, but once you find a mobo that supports those CPUs, a case, PSU(s). It really starts adding up for server stuff. I might look at other options.

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The case alone, no mobo is going for $300 on eBay. A bit much lol

subtle pasture Dec 29, 2021, 5:15 PM

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mortal pendant True, but once you find a mobo that supports those CPUs, a case, PSU(s). It real...

Specifically looking for a dual-socket motherboard?

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Because any X99 motherboard will run one of those CPUs

mortal pendant Dec 29, 2021, 5:15 PM

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subtle pasture Specifically looking for a dual-socket motherboard?

Yeah I want them cores

subtle pasture Dec 29, 2021, 5:16 PM

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It has a lot of cores, but they're old Broadwell-E cores...

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A single 12900k can actually outpace those older dual xeons.

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It's also worth mentioning that the dual Xeon system will be comprised of two NUMA nodes, so any software that isn't NUMA aware won't be able to see half of those cores.

weary wind Dec 29, 2021, 5:43 PM

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hello all, is there someone who knows a lot about unifi and can help me with a big problem? in a voice channel preferably?

forest edge Dec 29, 2021, 5:44 PM

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holy cow zigbee issues are complicated lol

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 6:06 PM

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i wish i could magicly tunnel my work's DL speed so i can get this game at 2.5gbps

glacial knot Dec 29, 2021, 6:09 PM

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I have better download at home than work =.=

grave knot Dec 29, 2021, 6:12 PM

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work and home are the same place, and the download is fine at both lol

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 6:13 PM

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Lulz

hollow glacier Dec 29, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Gig e ftth here

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No complaints other than price

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$93 with tax

hot hearth Dec 29, 2021, 6:35 PM

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How accurate are these bmp280s?

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 6:47 PM

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so is there an AXIS camera discord anyone knows of?

orchid rose Dec 29, 2021, 7:05 PM

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You'd probably have to calibrate the bmp to make sure it's accurate Ash.

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:06 PM

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jade tartan so is there an AXIS camera discord anyone knows of?

What do you want to know?

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Or were you the person who got those p5532s for a good price?

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:29 PM

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i got a q6034 for free

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@last cedar

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but it wount boot

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i have it's OG was working at one point injector, and the fluke says it was putting out 30 w still

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but when i watch it, it does same thing on my switch and the injector

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it power cycles seemingly without flashing it status light at all

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almost as if it's short boot power cycling or something

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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It is High PoE that a provided injector supplies

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:33 PM

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According to the spec, unsure exactly how many watts it takes

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:34 PM

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both my switch and the injector thats OG to it, power it

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or i should say are within spec

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this was a working camera and it stoped

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with the injector i have for it

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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https://www.axis.com/files/manuals/ig_q60_series_49503_en_1212.pdf

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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if anyone can ID that clip standard, and i can order one, you can power it through that clip

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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What do leds say? There are two

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:35 PM

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they dont turn on

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as if the unit isnt powering

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but it deff has poe

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that is enough

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its making me think the poe side of it might be dead

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https://ipvm.com/forums/video-surveillance/topics/anyone-know-fix-for-axis-ptzs-that-work-fine-with-ac-dc-24v-power-but-poe-rj45

IPVM

Fix For Axis PTZ That Work With AC/DC 24V Power But Not PoE

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cause i found this thread

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:38 PM

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It should only need 21W

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Via poe

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I have one of those ac sockets, I think

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I save all sorts of crap

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:41 PM

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i need that clip end

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so i can pin it myself

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im thinking the POE power side died

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and that if i do what that dude is doing

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maybe i can power it through a 24v transformer

low harness Dec 29, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Looks kind of proprietary, but also pretty much dupont-compatible?

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Or is it a row of stuff in the middle too?

clever mortar Dec 29, 2021, 7:46 PM

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I've seen similar connectors on things before

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:46 PM

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no, just the pins

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2nd pic is misleading

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but your right

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a dupont connector might slip onto the pins

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i just realized this is an indoor only ptz

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if i get this working my wife will hate me

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lol

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:50 PM

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There should be a seperate 3 pin connector for ac/ dc power

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:50 PM

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it connects to this multi connector

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they make you buy this cord

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thats like 100

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to use the multi connector

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which has the break out for audio and sich and also external power

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newer versions prolly just are built in

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this camera is old appearently

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720p

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:52 PM

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Yes

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Have you tried the power button

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It says it is used if the dome cover is not on

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:53 PM

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primarily assume that anything standard, ive tried, and that it's completely torn apart at this point and the poe base board still by itself does the same blinking

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(the blinking being on the poe injector or my switch indicating it's starting up, but turns right back off)

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Ok, fair enough :)

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I will let you handle it then

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 7:55 PM

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oh i dont mind ideas, just ive tried all the standard stuff

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and my next stop was to power it externally once i could figure out which pins go to power

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no idea tho and no docs

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unless i knew someone with a multi cable

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 8:06 PM

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https://www.axis.com/files/manuals/ig_q60_series_49503_en_1212.pdf

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The docs are there

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Full manual

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Their ptz stuff has always been a little special.

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 8:07 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/special-important-necessary-quote-on-quote-quotation-gif-15177708

Tenor

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Mmm, their normal cameras are sweeeeeeeet.

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 8:11 PM

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no like, the connector they have, i need the pin out, so i dont have to buy it, i highly doubt they are going to publish that so i dont buy their 100 cable

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 8:12 PM

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I'm gonna bet POS neg is on either side

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Then sync / Sig on middle ones, and audio on other side

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DogeWink

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Should be able to find someone who has looked for the same before

jade tartan Dec 29, 2021, 8:13 PM

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you'd think?

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i cant find a whole lot on the pin out for it

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i posted pics

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id be fine duponting just the right pins

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i wonder if it would be safe to assume that it's one of those 4 pins

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as they are the only ones with those beefy components after them

grand glade Dec 29, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Hey, everybody. Can you please advise me on the best way to contact Paulus Schoutsen? I have an offer to work with him. Thanks

clear ferry Dec 29, 2021, 8:42 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/gekko-cantrefuse-refuse-offer-makehimanoffer-gif-4994865

Tenor

I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse

▶ Play video

clever mortar Dec 29, 2021, 8:44 PM

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grand glade Hey, everybody. Can you please advise me on the best way to contact Paulus Schou...

I'll let him know

shy notch Dec 29, 2021, 8:45 PM

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grand glade Hey, everybody. Can you please advise me on the best way to contact Paulus Schou...

That’s me

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Best to just email to hello@home-assistant.Io

grand glade Dec 29, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Thank you, I'll email you. Have a nice holiday.

hot hearth Dec 29, 2021, 8:51 PM

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orchid rose You'd probably have to calibrate the bmp to make sure it's accurate Ash.

how would one do this?

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wait, realise that would need to get something more accurate than it to base off of

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which i dont have lmao, the bmp is the most accurate thermometer i own

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mostly because its the only thermometer i own

orchid rose Dec 29, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Iirc you only need salt and water for humidity. For temperature I'm not sure

midnight adder Dec 29, 2021, 9:35 PM

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J'y, is it possible to create a topic "MQTT" or "Mosquitto", please ?

scenic radish Dec 29, 2021, 9:38 PM

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A channel you mean? As much as I like MQTT, a channel dedicated to it is probably excessive

midnight adder Dec 29, 2021, 9:38 PM

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Ok sorry

clever mortar Dec 29, 2021, 9:40 PM

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Most people use MQTT either for #integrations-archived with Home Assistant, or as part of some #diy-archived project

native quarry Dec 29, 2021, 10:21 PM

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Hi

last cedar Dec 29, 2021, 10:29 PM

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shy notch Best to just email to hello@home-assistant.Io

Can I email you raccoon pics? 🦝

slim rampartBOT Dec 29, 2021, 10:47 PM

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hoary canyon Dec 30, 2021, 12:12 AM

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Grandma got this in the mail 🙃

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25mbps DSL or Comcast is what is offered there currently

last dirge Dec 30, 2021, 12:24 AM

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FTTH granny

velvet horizonBOT Dec 30, 2021, 1:43 AM

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The topic of this channel is:

@slim rampart There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Amber see #yellow-archived, and #330990055533576204 for the Blue. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

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Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

last dirge Dec 30, 2021, 1:47 AM

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BOT FIGHT

terse stag Dec 30, 2021, 1:54 AM

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7 updates to HA in december -- frenck must have found some strong coffee

signal osprey Dec 30, 2021, 3:33 AM

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i just wondered whats wrong with nodered? Do we have other better options? i really wanted to know. i found NR very customizable...instead of spending hours fixing yaml indentation

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 5:05 AM

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signal osprey i just wondered whats wrong with nodered? Do we have other better options? i rea...

It’s ok, @clear ferry 🤢 everything

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At some point tho, you will 🤢 node red as well… it may take you 5 years

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 5:14 AM

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what even is nodered? out of band #automations-archived ?

young sigil Dec 30, 2021, 5:20 AM

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It's alternative to writing automations in Home Assistant. It has a visual interface that still requires a lot of messing about with json in the actual guts of your automation. Which is weird. Never understood people calling it 'easier'. There's very little that you can do in Node Red that you can't do in Home Assistant. I think I've seen one example in three years. So it's just another layer of unneeded abstraction.

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 5:21 AM

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I'll just write a python script that listens to MQTT =.= (I might have done that already)

peak mountain Dec 30, 2021, 6:09 AM

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scenic radish Dec 30, 2021, 6:16 AM

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pls

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 6:17 AM

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I used to have alias pls = sudo !! (I think it's !!? Last command)

finite atlas Dec 30, 2021, 6:21 AM

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peak mountain

every linux should do that out of the box, to teach IT people a better way to communicate with other people

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 6:27 AM

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oh right, I love my robo vacuum. how do the robo wet wipers compare? 🤔

snow hedge Dec 30, 2021, 8:45 AM

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glacial knot oh right, I love my robo vacuum. how do the robo wet wipers compare? 🤔

There seem to be two types, the most common is akin to dragging a wet wipe across the floor. It'll get some stuff, but if its dried on, it won't get it. Some models seem to introduce some kind of scrubbing/vibration action which might work better.

wind sparrow Dec 30, 2021, 8:53 AM

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I have the Ecovacs T8 AIVI, and while I don't have their vibration / scrubbing upgrade, the "wet wipe" works decently. Honestly, my only complaint about the thing is that the auto-empty part creates equal vacuum down both emptying ports, and my gf has longer hair, and it will kind of tie the dirt together and prevent the bot from emptying automatically.

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 9:08 AM

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signal osprey i just wondered whats wrong with nodered? Do we have other better options? i rea...

Just learn yaml, problem solved DogeWink

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 9:08 AM

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#itworks

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 9:28 AM

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even better
learn python
add more stuff to gui configuration
forget yaml

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 9:30 AM

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🤢

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 9:33 AM

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step 5: ignore atx

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 9:58 AM

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Damnit just pinged mod in #330944238910963714. Not gonna annoy them again

Go away spammer/ scammer lol

clever mortar Dec 30, 2021, 9:59 AM

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It's ok, once we get notified about them once we don't need repeat notifications of the same person

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 9:59 AM

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for just $19.99 a month you too can be a spammer/scammer

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:04 AM

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Japan HP accidentally deleted 77TB data in Kyoto U. supercomputing system | Hacker News

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29734021

Sounds like atx’s colleagues might do some overtime

rguiscard

Japan HP accidentally deleted 77TB data in Kyoto U. supercomputing system

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:15 AM

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They will more likely do　せっぷく

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:15 AM

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i don't know japanese but i guess that means seppuku

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:16 AM

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はい

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:17 AM

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umbral cliff Damnit just pinged mod in <#330944238910963714>. Not gonna annoy them again Go ...

You should just report every frequent user in that channel to mods to get them flagged as running the most moronic install

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 10:18 AM

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clear ferry You should just report every frequent user in that channel to mods to get them f...

I agree

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Too many people who come in saying it’s their first install/ first time playing with Linux

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:19 AM

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because "docker is too hard"

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:19 AM

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There should have been a riddle in the #330944238910963714 install script, that you had to answer 10 questions correctly before it would install

clever mortar Dec 30, 2021, 10:19 AM

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And one of them should have no answer

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:20 AM

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Or just let it die, the users running it are no loss

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:20 AM

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spin them off to their own server

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:21 AM

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docker is confusing me. But I also dont' feel like actually learning anything about it^^

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:21 AM

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yeah so after those bastards killed off #330944238910963714 we made our own #awayassistantunsupervised

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You can learn anything you need to know about docker to run ha and "add-ons" in less than a week

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 AM

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way too much time

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 AM

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You'll have it up and running in less than 2h regardless

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 AM

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I found a command to copy+paste to run z2m. that's all I need for now /shrug

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 AM

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DogeWink

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docker run 🤢

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 AM

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until you break something 👿

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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Then we can mock you all day

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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when you choose the wrong channel to ask the question

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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🙂 I know I run core. Easy to find that channel

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 AM

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clear ferry You'll have it up and running in less than 2h regardless

Atx said this to me. I have been trying for 47 weeks now

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:24 AM

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In #551864459891703809 "hai gais, mai supervised install is saying unsupported, but it is running on a raspberry pi zero running templeos, I don't understand"

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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nah, I'm running it on a beagle bone black wifi edition

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the worst part, that's probably possible

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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bunch of haters up in here

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Yes, we all hate you

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 AM

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Atx always hates everything

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Especially raspberry pis. With sd cards

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:26 AM

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there is no love without hate

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without atx we'd just be emotionless drones

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 10:27 AM

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without atx pollution declines

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 10:30 AM

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so much love in here ❤️

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:32 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/where-is-the-love-black-eyed-peas-gif-20783201

Tenor

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 10:33 AM

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fits the rabbit hole i went down the last days researching the most hated german youtuber
it's fascinating

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:34 AM

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You came full circle you say?

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 10:37 AM

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he's propably the most hated world wide, Chrischan is comparable but his case is much worse

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:39 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/avasarala-the-expanse-drinking-perfect-excuse-gif-21162761

Tenor

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

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Lol managed to kill a Tuya based device trying to flash it today. Doesn’t turn on and the esp chip just warms up. Proud of myself 😂

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:45 AM

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good!

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 10:46 AM

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Not many other decent IR transceivers that aren’t expensive though

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As much as I do hate Tuya devices, when flashed they’re fine

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:47 AM

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Broadlink?

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 10:48 AM

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in immortal words of atxbyea: 🤢

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 10:50 AM

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whats wrong with broadlink? mine has worked flawlessly

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 10:50 AM

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clear ferry Broadlink?

Also don’t want to wait for shipping

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:52 AM

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Tsk tsk

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 11:00 AM

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Hey I’m impatient 😂

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 11:00 AM

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clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 11:02 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/tomb-raider-tomb-raider-gifs-lara-croft-alicia-vikander-gif-9854458

Tenor

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 11:41 AM

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anybody keen to explain "windows containers" to me?
I need to build .net (>4.7) projects in containers...

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 11:42 AM

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the way containers on windows work: launch a linux VM and have that handle containers 😉

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 11:42 AM

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as I see it, only .net >=5 can run on a linux kernel

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 12:01 PM

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Ach bought a device I hoped was esp

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It was not

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Now I can get pissed at tuya while playing with it

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 12:01 PM

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clear ferry Ach bought a device I hoped was esp

TI?

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Also what device is it

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 12:01 PM

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I already am because their cloud portal sucks

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Deltaco sh-p02

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 12:02 PM

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Ooh nice

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 12:49 PM

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But seriously, I've had less connection issues upgrading systems on the south pole than the tuya cloud portal

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 12:49 PM

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less EM interference on South Pole

young sigil Dec 30, 2021, 1:34 PM

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Lots of ionospheric disturbance near the south (magnetic) pole. HF is barely useable most times.

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Also cowboy elechickens that don't know how to ground VFDs properly stuffing up the entire VHF band 🤬

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 1:42 PM

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Well… my nearby movie theater just shut down

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 1:42 PM

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what is movie theater?

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is that like a landline?

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 1:44 PM

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Might be an American thing where new movies are only shown at these places for months before you can buy/rent them

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 1:44 PM

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I was at a movie theater in 2012

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So roughly the same time I last used a landline

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 1:45 PM

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To be honest, we started only watching at home since COVID and now that I have a proper sound system

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 1:46 PM

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i don't really need to watch the movie immediately, they don't expire

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 1:46 PM

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And why pay

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DogeWink

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 1:46 PM

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and endure other people

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 1:46 PM

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🤢

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 1:47 PM

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That’s also why I stopped going, when people bring infants

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 1:47 PM

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or just themselves

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 1:47 PM

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They can go f themselves with a hot fire poker for that

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 1:47 PM

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pausing a movie to go pee is a big plus for home watching

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or rewinding an awesome scene

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 1:58 PM

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And you can watch together with other people with Plex

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When they pause you pause

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 2:29 PM

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Movie theatres are good for making an outing with friends

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Otherwise yeah home is nicer

proven spruce Dec 30, 2021, 2:39 PM

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Friends lol

glacial knot Dec 30, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Just ~~🏴‍☠️~~ buy the movie and raid the friend with the best Tv

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 2:49 PM

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no need to raid me, eh

fallow karma Dec 30, 2021, 3:02 PM

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I have to repair my tv .

dusky plank Dec 30, 2021, 3:06 PM

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what did you do?

fallow karma Dec 30, 2021, 3:07 PM

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It's kind of old, and white spots apeared. Got to glue up reflectors, or change led bars.

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I'm not in the habit of replacing things, until they stop working completely.

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 3:09 PM

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TVs are rarely properly repairable unfortunately, though usually when they fail it’s time for an upgrade

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4K calls

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 3:14 PM

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Yah.. the sound on my old plasma went out

fallow karma Dec 30, 2021, 3:15 PM

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Mine is wrong path of TV's evolution : 3D one :)

brisk glen Dec 30, 2021, 3:15 PM

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2012 😦 might be time to replace it soon.

fallow karma Dec 30, 2021, 3:17 PM

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Last one was tube type, i liked it, so did repair it again, and again, untill tube was worn, it lost colour and contrast, and there was no more way to tune it up on the converter

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I mean, it didn't lost colours completely, but everything looked kind of greenish

tawny pebble Dec 30, 2021, 3:23 PM

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Hello! yday i wrote in the support-integration that i had lots of issues with Hue lights even after some people on the HA community said that the update of 2021.12.3 fixed plenty of them.
I got no reply but that's okay. I rolled back to 2021.11 for the night. Today I saw the 2021.12.7 and thought of upgrading. All the Hue issues are fixed (for real) and some minor changes fixed some frontend bugs i had.
Wonderful! Love you guys. Devs here are just awesome.
Wish there were more devs like you (:

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 3:26 PM

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brisk glen Yah.. the sound on my old plasma went out

Lulz plasma, i bought one in 2008, it is now in my second living room having a great time being used once every three months

mortal pendant Dec 30, 2021, 3:32 PM

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umbral cliff TVs are rarely properly repairable unfortunately, though usually when they fail ...

My dad buys broken flat screens online and just replaces their motherboard. Usually works.

umbral cliff Dec 30, 2021, 3:33 PM

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mortal pendant My dad buys broken flat screens online and just replaces their motherboard. Usua...

Lucky to find parts though. I damaged one and a new display panel cost more than a newer and better tv

mortal pendant Dec 30, 2021, 3:34 PM

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umbral cliff Lucky to find parts though. I damaged one and a new display panel cost more than...

Yeah I think if you get to choose to what broken tv you buy, it's easier. Like a really common Samsung. But if it's just your random tv, will probably be a lot harder

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I've repaired a few monitors over the years

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But hey, it's my education

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 5:37 PM

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Capacitors are very common failure points on all sort of electronics

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 5:38 PM

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Yes

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The older the more likely

dapper bolt Dec 30, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Hello fellow tinkerers!
I created an interactive plotting card and thought it may be useful for others.
Is there any channel where I can show it and ask for feedback without becoming a spammer? I'm new here 👋

Thanks!

clever mortar Dec 30, 2021, 8:11 PM

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The forum is likely a better place, but otherwise the #frontend-archived channel is the channel for cards

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Assuming you're talking about Home Assistant

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 9:17 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-evil-smile-fight-me-evil-raccoon-gif-13886764

Tenor

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Plot you say? @dapper bolt

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There is a raccoon gif for almost every occasion

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https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-love-bubble-cute-pop-it-gif-16903437

Tenor

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 9:33 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/chopper-dance-happy-onepiece-one-gif-18596539

Tenor

orchid rose Dec 30, 2021, 10:13 PM

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There was a sad raccoon pic posted on Reddit yesterday, but I didn't want to sadden Michelle by posting it. Raccoon protecting another hurt one. It made me have feels

clear ferry Dec 30, 2021, 10:21 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-reaction-feels-gif-4938402

Tenor

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:22 PM

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orchid rose There was a sad raccoon pic posted on Reddit yesterday, but I didn't want to sad...

Awww, I mean it is nature. But still sad

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Anyone seen "My octopus teacher"

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Can recommend

orchid rose Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 PM

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Fantastic movie

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I didn't expect all them feels for a movie where a grown man cuddles with an octopus, but I did

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:25 PM

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Yup

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Tbh octopus scare me a little, I find them a little freaky, partially the intelligence partially the idea of the liquidity I think

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But omg the feels

orchid rose Dec 30, 2021, 10:28 PM

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I find the emotional intelligence in some animals just so endearing that it was right up my alley

last cedar Dec 30, 2021, 10:31 PM

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I saw them in a different light after that documentary

orchid rose Dec 30, 2021, 10:39 PM

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I learned about it in the Filmspotting podcast that I regularly listen to. Definitely worth a watch though

last dirge Dec 30, 2021, 11:16 PM

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anybody using that newfangled electric tint?

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 11:17 PM

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https://youtu.be/Wof0xPUmW38

YouTube

Tiikuri

How to open a door - Finnish instructional video from 1979

This video has subtitles. Be sure to enable them if you don't know Finnish. If you want to contribute by translating the subtitles to your language, shoot me a message, and i'll give you the info on how to do it.

Thanks go to the following people:

Roy Mackenzie for the French translation
Emmanuel Froissart for also submitting a French trans...

▶ Play video

static schooner Dec 30, 2021, 11:22 PM

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I was looking forward to the instructions for how to open a door that comes toward you, but they just punted on that

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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better off with smart glass over smart tint even if the tint is cheaper.. dealing with imperfections of installation and the wires look like ass

last dirge Dec 30, 2021, 11:24 PM

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"better off"

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$$$$$$

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could get the film for about $400 for this window

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it'd easily be 4x that for a double-glazed panel

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 11:29 PM

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but it would be seamless

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not to mention with tint you can't cover the whole window.. there has to be a gap on all 4 sides

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get you one of those double pane windows with the blinds built in

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those are neat

mortal pendant Dec 30, 2021, 11:41 PM

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I gave my mom my 1080ti about a year ago, do you think if I swapped it for a $50 quadro she would if notice if she only uses chrome? lol

forest edge Dec 30, 2021, 11:56 PM

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wtf

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:40 AM

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ugh networking can be so boring!

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your thinking is boring too!

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 12:52 AM

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Thinking what to think

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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do me a favor. go pay some homeless to hold protest signs down at the sony studio to release spider man no way home to streaming service so I can watch it

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 12:54 AM

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so if you region swap on steam they will not allow that right?

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like the game is so much cheaper if you swap to other currency's

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 12:55 AM

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@forest edge go watch it at a dolby cinema.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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tidal bronze <@104768700069990400> go watch it at a dolby cinema.

no way I heard covid lurks there

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 12:56 AM

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If you have your booster, nothing to worry.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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@jade tartannever tried that but seriously doubt it would work. but you can go on other sites and buy steam game keys for cheaper

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:57 AM

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tidal bronze If you have your booster, nothing to worry.

https://tenor.com/view/car-seat-side-eye-funny-baby-gif-13275052

Tenor

car seat side eye

▶ Play video

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 12:58 AM

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Yep just like that.

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 12:58 AM

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forest edge <@!266758008409817088>never tried that but seriously doubt it would work. but yo...

na, it's on sale atm, for cheapest price on steam itself

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i checked

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satisfactory

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i played an old pirated version

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was fun

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they added coop

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:59 AM

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lol pirated games

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:00 AM

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AND?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 1:03 AM

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Goes back to June 23rd 1998

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:09 AM

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the only bethesda game ive bought was fo4

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all the rest were "obtained"

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:11 AM

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jade tartan so if you region swap on steam they will not allow that right?

Pretty sure it does check CC/ DC address and requires one in that locale

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 AM

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yeah ill just get it normal

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should do away with region locks all togethor

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 AM

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This isn’t region lock, more like pricing so people can afford it

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:14 AM

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not to mention it's tax invasion

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:14 AM

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tax invasion?

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IN?

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not E

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?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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wut?

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 AM

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also idgaf about tax evasion, clear the government doesnt eather, otherwise they'd go collect from all the rich pieces of shit gaming the system

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but yes, region lock, otherwise i could just switch to w/e region has the best conversion rate and pay $7 usd for the game but in like turkish lira or w/e

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:16 AM

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jade tartan but yes, region lock, otherwise i could just switch to w/e region has the best c...

Except the point of the locks is to allow people who earn equivalently a lot less than you to still buy games, yet it’s still the same proportion to their incomes

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The developers don’t want to be earning less

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Also not exactly tax evasion, still pay local tax of where they’re based (eg I pay GST on steam games I order)

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 AM

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so what your saying is, they can accept that small of an ammount from people in 3rd world country's for a license, but not the US? seems discriminatory that they would just charge us x10 the price because of currency

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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umbral cliff Also not exactly tax evasion, still pay local tax of where they’re based (eg I p...

no idea, i was just responding to this?

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:18 AM

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The USA earns more money, people there can afford $20 whilst in some countries $20 is a daily or weekly salary

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It’s no different than any other good or service

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 AM

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im making a commentary on the fact that they can accept the small equivilant US dollar ammount

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like that one i posted us is 20 bucks

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or like 2 dollars US

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in turkish lira

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 AM

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umbral cliff Also not exactly tax evasion, still pay local tax of where they’re based (eg I p...

it is tax invasion, when you region swap there there no means of paying local taxes

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 AM

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INVASION?

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whos invading which country?

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wheres my mp44 so i can shoot people with this INVASION

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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jade tartan im making a commentary on the fact that they can accept the small equivilant US ...

Yes because people playing the game is better than no one. It’s allowing games to be accessible for people who don’t have huge incomes

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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forest edge it is tax invasion, when you region swap there there no means of paying local ta...

No? Local taxes get included into the price at sale

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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im betting if i was EVADING taxes you might have a point

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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umbral cliff No? Local taxes get included into the price at sale

how do you figure?

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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forest edge how do you figure?

Swap your region to australia, you’ll pay GST on the purchase

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 AM

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it's not diffrent then when you use to pay stuff on amazon that didn't include taxes

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:22 AM

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but conceptually i dont know if one could "INVADE" taxes

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seems like 2 thinks that arnt on the same plane, like mixing units of measurements

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:22 AM

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evasion, auto fill

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:22 AM

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umbral cliff Yes because people playing the game is better than no one. It’s allowing games t...

so what im saying is, they could accept that much less, they CHOOSE to try to get more out of the better markets

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:23 AM

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forest edge evasion, auto fill

EVASION

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no N

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note my spelling might be off, but the concept is there

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:23 AM

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jade tartan *note my spelling might be off, but the concept is there*

Your spelling is right. Evasion is the correct word (aka dodging taxes)

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 1:24 AM

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evading taxes is doing something to avoid having to paying them, INvasion is where you get some guns and tell people you own their shit now

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which the government also does

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unjustly

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:26 AM

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umbral cliff Swap your region to australia, you’ll pay GST on the purchase

to my knowledge there is no gst for the us or no means of it collecting. maybe there is a system setup for other countries

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:27 AM

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forest edge to my knowledge there is no gst for the us or no means of it collecting. maybe t...

Sales tax is gst for you guys

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Or vat in Europe

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:27 AM

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we have federal and local

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:28 AM

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Weird. But if places like Amazon can tax correctly then surely steam can

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:28 AM

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it took them like 2+ years just to figure how to apply taxes to amazon orders

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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I remember the before-times when Amazon didn't charge tax, and the furious ordering that happened before it kicked in

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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it was great

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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seems silly now that there was a gigantic loophole like that

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:30 AM

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US and online weren't really.. caught up

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hell friend makes good money just geofencing states

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 1:31 AM

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it was that way forever, but much less of a thing before you could buy literally anything online and have it tomorrow

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:32 AM

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tax invasion

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crazy

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 AM

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Does Amazon charge a surcharge to visa credit cards in the USA now too

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 AM

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wonder how long epoxy tabletops actually last

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not to just visa

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 AM

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So they charge a surcharge to all cards?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:52 AM

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not 100% sure, all that is part of the tax

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you see articles about them adding this and that to tax's all the time but they have shelf life so it always changes

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 AM

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All I know is Amazon has had a huge falling out with visa. Visa credit cards in australia have a surcharge now and visa credit in the uk is outright banned

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Giving $10 credit just to add a MasterCard to your account

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:57 AM

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as far as I know there is nothing like that going on here

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although with that said, this last year every amazon purchase has been made with cash back gift cards soooo

strange crag Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 AM

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jade tartan so what your saying is, they can accept that small of an ammount from people in ...

for a game that costs you roughly US$40, we in australia will pay AUD$90 and the exchange rate isnt that bad - so we get penalised for buying here.
I wonder if we could buy it in the US via a vpn terminating in the US?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:09 AM

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using a vpn to create a us account and purchasing the game for said us account?

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https://www.pcgamer.com/steam-is-making-it-harder-to-get-cheap-games-from-other-regions/

pcgamer

Steam is making it harder to get cheap games from other regions

It seems its previous measures still weren't enough.

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:13 AM

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strange crag for a game that costs you roughly US$40, we in australia will pay AUD$90 and the...

Probably address verification that’ll stop you doing that

strange crag Dec 31, 2021, 2:14 AM

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bugger! lol

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 AM

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https://youtu.be/G_kIcGxgG3A

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jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 AM

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strange crag for a game that costs you roughly US$40, we in australia will pay AUD$90 and the...

i support this

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 AM

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surprised this isn't already a thing. https://youtu.be/kIAbswx3D20

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like people renting an apartment that has jack shit really in it but comes with a vr headset and you get all your interactions through vr lol

jade tartan Dec 31, 2021, 2:25 AM

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@strange crag i mean i support you using a vpn to get it cheaper bud

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not that it cost you more

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:09 AM

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umbral cliff Does Amazon charge a surcharge to visa credit cards in the USA now too

Surcharge for credit cards ? That's against CC TOS I think.

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 3:14 AM

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tidal bronze Surcharge for credit cards ? That's against CC TOS I think.

Nope. Perfectly allowed

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:16 AM

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That's news. Merchant agrees to treat same as cash, at least it used to be. Guess giving the rate reduction and onboarding Costco was not easy for Visa. 😆

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 3:19 AM

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tidal bronze That's news. Merchant agrees to treat same as cash, at least it used to be. Gues...

So they allow it in australia, NZ, and Mexico and some places in the USA

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:22 AM

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Yep not in California for sure.

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:23 AM

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I thought they could get around it by offering a cash discount

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But I’ve seen gas stations advertising cash prices, which I didn’t think was allowed

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:24 AM

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I think there is a class action against cash/credit price for gas now in Cali.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:25 AM

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lol cali

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drama club

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:25 AM

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static schooner But I’ve seen gas stations advertising cash prices, which I didn’t think was all...

Cash discount violates "same as cash"

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:26 AM

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forest edge drama club

Be thankful to all the drama we create, or else the rest will be still in 1883. 😆

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:27 AM

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I dunno, hotdogs still come in packages of 10 while buns in packages of 8.. pretty sure that just drives you all up the wall

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:28 AM

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Hmmm not the Grass Fed finished non GMO stuff

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:28 AM

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oh typical.. cali sued and got thier way for thier state lol

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sounds about right

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:32 AM

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Costco made me get a Visa, such an old concept

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:33 AM

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made you? how does that work

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:33 AM

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Better than Amex

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:34 AM

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Better than Amex. Hmm not for me.

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:34 AM

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forest edge made you? how does that work

Costco used to be Amex only then Visa only. Sucks now.

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:35 AM

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Lots of places don’t take Amex. Every place takes Visa

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:35 AM

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tidal bronze Costco used to be Amex only then Visa only. Sucks now.

vista only? what kind of caveman shit is that

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sam's club

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live a better life

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:36 AM

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static schooner Lots of places don’t take Amex. Every place takes Visa

I agree on international travel. But I rarely come across places that's no amex. Usually No Amex means bad return policy or crap customer service.

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Smaller businesses often don’t. Costs more

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:37 AM

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Yes I know about .75 more than Visa.

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:38 AM

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My Costco Amex was almost like a store card, while I use the visa everywhere

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:38 AM

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Totally opposite for me. No amex I don't shop unless costco.

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:38 AM

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I also have a company Amex and it’s also been a pain in the ass

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:39 AM

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american express is popular now?

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:39 AM

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They used to be interesting with the ‘no limit’ policy, but that hasn’t been a big deal for years

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:39 AM

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I thought discover crushed everything under visa and mc lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:40 AM

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Discover crushed it with 0 apr but that's long gone. Amex unlimited is still well and live 😆

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:41 AM

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discovers cash back more than makes up for it

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:42 AM

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Places like car dealerships don’t accept a credit card for a down payment or purchase, and if I want more credit, I can just ask

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:42 AM

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purchasing a car via cc is crazy tho..

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:42 AM

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It would be awesome

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Charge it and pay it off

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:43 AM

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friend done it when he was younger.. ended up having to file for bankruptcy

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they garnished his wages and everything.. he use to bitch how they haunted his dreams lol

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 3:43 AM

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It’s not a way to finance a car

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Points/miles/whatever for $$$ and pay it off

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:45 AM

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I am all about points too.

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But charge and pay for a car doesn't sound wise unless you have a pay down plan with CC. Which amex offeres for busines purchases.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:46 AM

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ah american express had all those flyer point thing.. now it makes sense why you went that direction

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:47 AM

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Lol.

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Miles + points with single swipe. Can't beat that.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:48 AM

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is citi part of amex? athink that's the one who does those commercials talking about frequent flyer miles

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Citi nopes.

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You mean cap one

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:48 AM

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yea thats it

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:49 AM

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They are good for travel as well.

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 3:49 AM

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im port forwarding obs websocket so I can change my obs scenes from a computer at a different house. Have I gone too far?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:50 AM

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not sure I understand the logic

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 3:50 AM

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forest edge not sure I understand the logic

I use obs to display my security camera RTSP streams and I'm working on a script that will fullscreen whichever one is detecting motion

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:52 AM

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ah

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:54 AM

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Live video from security cameras ? It's been awhile

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 3:54 AM

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tidal bronze Live video from security cameras ? It's been awhile

yep

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:55 AM

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tidal bronze Live video from security cameras ? It's been awhile

while? your shit so delayed you can only view yesterdays footage?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:56 AM

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Been ages since I watched any of my cameras live. Frigate snapshots only. Who has time for live streams ?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:56 AM

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lol

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 3:56 AM

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tidal bronze Been ages since I watched any of my cameras live. Frigate snapshots only. Who ha...

I just like having it up on a side monitor

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omg it works. I changed my obs scene from a computer 12 miles away

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:57 AM

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I dunno even know why you have cameras in the first place.. you live in a gated community behind a wall and you got so much audio equipment strung around the yard noone could make it to your house without breaking a leg anyways

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 3:58 AM

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I like to see them FedEx and USPS people, actually it's mainly for dogs.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 3:59 AM

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yea right. you don't see fedex people, you only see your package being thrown your direction

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:00 AM

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Never happened

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:00 AM

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they probably fly too quick for frigate snapshot

static schooner Dec 31, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Ye olde package canon

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Never seen when I glance at telegram now and then. Even the snapshots are auto delete in 3 days.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Honey were is all of our stuff? I dunno been missing for 3 days... FUCK!

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:03 AM

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Hmm easier to call Amex than checking cameras 😆

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:04 AM

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you call the credit card company when you get robbed?

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thats cali for you lmao

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:04 AM

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Getting robbed is not a thought for me.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:04 AM

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yes we know

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you live such a pampered life lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:05 AM

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Unless no bodily harm is done why bother. There's insurance and CC for that.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:06 AM

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screw that. in the midwest we seek revenge

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:06 AM

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Only love here.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:10 AM

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after my cousin moved out of my farm house someone had broken in and took a microwave or something, so i boarded up all the windows and removed the floor supports.. like to see them go back

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:11 AM

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Oh boy.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:11 AM

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this was a very long time ago

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either noone has been back or there is a corpse in the basement rotting away

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don't ever go in the house so would really never know lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:13 AM

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Time to say goodbye to 2021

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:14 AM

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you know it's thursday right?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:15 AM

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Last hour of last flight of the year....🤞

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:16 AM

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I dunno how people can fly so much, shit would drive me nuts

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:17 AM

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Me too, not flying but people that fly in them.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:18 AM

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the dude sitting next to you is driving you nuts?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:19 AM

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No issues with frequent flyers, ever.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:20 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/bus-travel-birdthongchai-crowded-gif-13225311

Tenor

silver skiff Dec 31, 2021, 4:21 AM

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Double hung windows are the bane of my sensor placement existence. That is all.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:22 AM

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how is that

silver skiff Dec 31, 2021, 4:24 AM

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Using one sensor for one window is a pain to do in my case

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:24 AM

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door/window sensors come in two parts.. stick one to each piece of the window

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presto.. done

silver skiff Dec 31, 2021, 4:25 AM

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The sensors are a pain to get lined up so the window can open in both directions without clipping

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:26 AM

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I see tediore keeps trying to talk but has so far failed to accomplish this task. I wonder if maybe his typing attempts are a cry for help

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:26 AM

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guess i have to get two more cameras now Shrug

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:26 AM

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wow that took awhile

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:26 AM

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stepped away

silver skiff Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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I also have a triple hung window that I have to redo the sensors on because opening one side is enough to knock the other out of magnetic alignment

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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triple hung? do you live in a mansion

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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is that obs as well or what you using to display the mosaic?

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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frigate birdseye

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:27 AM

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oh

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wait I thought birdeye only showed stuff when there is something moving

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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you can set it to show all cameras

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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is there a setting i missed?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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Birdseye is cool.

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It's in config

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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unless birdeye can stream all those cameras into a single stream then I wouldn't use it

silver skiff Dec 31, 2021, 4:28 AM

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scenic radish triple hung? do you live in a mansion

My front window is three panes that can slide independently

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:29 AM

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forest edge unless birdeye can stream all those cameras into a single stream then I wouldn't...

why's that?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:29 AM

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tidal bronze Birdseye is cool.

wait what? didn't you just say all you ever see is snapshots? how would you know what birdeye is? lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:30 AM

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I test the damn options

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:30 AM

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scenic radish why's that?

I view all my camera streams throughout the house on tv's etc

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:30 AM

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makes sense

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:31 AM

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but if it could stream a single mosaic stream.. that would be sick

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:31 AM

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3 x 3 re stream to a single is a cool idea

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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should see my poor roku sticks try and handle 4 streams at once lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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Shield

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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they do it.. but you know that little stick gets warm

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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does it now

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:32 AM

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yes it does.. it's like grand sauce

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:33 AM

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Sauce after the warm up ?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:34 AM

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tidal bronze Shield

yea no thanks.. not scrooge mcduck, don't have a vault of gold coins to swim in

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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Even on shield I use snapshots lol

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:35 AM

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lol you would

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roku is pretty nice. the cameras are set as the screensaver so it auto switches to them when it goes idle

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or if we pause a show or something

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:40 AM

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Nice.

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I use small corner pop up snapshots

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 4:42 AM

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how does that work? aren't you limited to whatever apps you can use?

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 4:44 AM

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Notifications for android TV. I think Netflix does not like background apps.

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I rarely get pop ups so haven't tested lately

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 5:05 AM

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weird, just saw a post where it talked about pulling in the birdseye view as a camera name into HA

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I don't see no entity for that but the picture clearly showed like 6 mosaic cameras in one card on the dashboard

shy comet Dec 31, 2021, 5:12 AM

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tidal bronze Notifications for android TV. I think Netflix does not like background apps.

The problem with doing it on the shield directly is that if you change the input you won't see the notification. What I did was run notifications for Android TV on my Sony TV itself so it works on everything in watching/playing

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 5:14 AM

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my automatic fullscreen motion thingy works

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 5:18 AM

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shy comet The problem with doing it on the shield directly is that if you change the input...

Input ? As in change tv input ?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 5:20 AM

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mortal pendant my automatic fullscreen motion thingy works

nice but you seem to be missing the toilet cam

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now I wanna pester @velvet monolith about that birdeye. way to go @scenic radish !

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oh wait. i see others have already pestered lol

mortal pendant Dec 31, 2021, 5:26 AM

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forest edge nice but you seem to be missing the toilet cam

got it set up for ya

shy comet Dec 31, 2021, 5:33 AM

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tidal bronze Input ? As in change tv input ?

yup lol

tidal bronze Dec 31, 2021, 5:39 AM

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Got it makes sense. I Don't change TV inputs, all video done using shield > AVR > TV, if not it's just audio and no TV.

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 6:10 AM

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shield addict

lost pine Dec 31, 2021, 10:02 AM

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Truly off-topic; I always wondered - what does it actually mean when developers write "bump" in the list of changes for a new version?

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 10:06 AM

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update

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e.g. when a dependency pinning is moved from 3.4.1 to 3.4.4, that version is bumped
Honestly not sure why now that I think about it

lost pine Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 AM

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What is a "dependency pinning" ? And what is the actual meaning of the word "bumped" ? Normally, a "bump" is like a hole or a hump ( as an obstacle) in the road or on some other surface.....

proven spruce Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 AM

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bump like bumping someone up. giving it a push

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 AM

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For dependencies it's common to lock them into specific versions. to prevent unnecessary breakage when the dependency updates and has some incompatibility in the newer version. That's pinning

proven spruce Dec 31, 2021, 10:12 AM

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like in forums when you bump a topic by posting in it "bump"

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 10:13 AM

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yea, and bump here is like bumping into it so it's pushed further

clever mortar Dec 31, 2021, 10:17 AM

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Pinning is basically stopping something from changing

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You can bump things along too

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It's a pretty standard English (UK English at least) term

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"Bump up" or "Bump over" to move up or move over

dusky plank Dec 31, 2021, 11:21 AM

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some people are already in 2022

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they say its still shite

proven spruce Dec 31, 2021, 11:21 AM

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it's 2020.2

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 11:28 AM

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2020 part tres

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The covidding

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 11:29 AM

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are they? I thought it's another half hour? or is there an essentially +13 zone?

proven spruce Dec 31, 2021, 11:29 AM

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there's a pocket dimension in the middle of pacific

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 11:31 AM

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Feelsdeadman

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 11:40 AM

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glacial knot are they? I thought it's another half hour? or is there an essentially +13 zone?

NZ is +13 atm

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 11:40 AM

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oh right, because they got summer time at the wrong time of the year

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 11:40 AM

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You mean the right time 😉

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 11:41 AM

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must suck to see the apocalypse before everyone else

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 11:41 AM

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gone first. sounds good

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 11:44 AM

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what glue do people use to join 3d printed parts together?

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 11:48 AM

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depends on your print material

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 11:53 AM

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these are pretty slick https://youtu.be/SqyqlfPZ9wE

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Drill Vise:https://youtu.be/bZFZ87klfpY
Height Marker...

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the router parts

strange crag Dec 31, 2021, 12:11 PM

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forest edge what glue do people use to join 3d printed parts together?

Not that I have a 3d printer, but if you are designing it then why not make it clip or screw together instead of glueing?

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Covid has been like a Sci Fi trilogy
book 1 was titled " Invasion 2020"
book 2 was titled "Immune 2021"
Book 3 is titled "Invasion 2 - Armageddon".
Happy New Year - Enjoy while you can. 🤣

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:34 PM

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I don't have a printer but figured if i got one it would be small thus forcing me to have to glue pieces together to make something bigger lol

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 12:41 PM

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Good Morning! Its just 13:41 - nobody judge

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 12:42 PM

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I will always judge

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Unifi

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🤢

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 12:44 PM

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I got wet dreams about Unifi

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 12:44 PM

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One can only hope, it would kill the hardware

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 12:45 PM

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heheheeh. I just had one hardware failure

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the firmware is more a shitshow. its alpha in public release

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If you want me to change, then give me a full pro setup. Norwegians should help Norwegians!

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:53 PM

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you three should go at it with bats and have someone film it for the rest of us.

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https://tenor.com/view/mad-funny-bat-ready-to-fight-gif-12585540

Tenor

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 12:57 PM

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Three?

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Where is the last one?

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https://tenor.com/view/maes-b-lost-in-a-field-pulp-fiction-john-travolta-gif-14829328

Tenor

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 12:59 PM

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look in the mirror

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:02 PM

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"Da har du fast ip adresse. Ikke statisk. " <- reply from alitbox if I could get a static ip

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:08 PM

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Happy new year!

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:09 PM

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Happy new year for those who are on that side of the globe

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:11 PM

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Lol static IP for wan

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What a useless concept

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Except if you are hosting a Mx, but even then you should be incarcerated at the mental asylum

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 PM

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Altibox now got native ipv6

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but refuse to say what options to set

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 1:12 PM

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yea, don't host your own MX anymore these days

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 PM

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I dont host anything anymore

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Don't tell the proxmox users running #330944238910963714 with unifi that @glacial knot

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 PM

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But I heard I needed static to get ipv6 to work

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 PM

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proxmox is ok

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what?

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that sounds wrong

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:13 PM

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Yes

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That is wrong

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:14 PM

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whats wrong with proxmox?

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:15 PM

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Mostly the userbase

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:16 PM

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Im a bit meh on proxmox. Its good with free, and work well for basic things with passthrough etc

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:17 PM

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It's just KVM with a gui

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And for some reason it's users use lxc over docker

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And try to run HA with two nodes and fail horribly

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beardmogi

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:19 PM

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I like both lxc and docker. lxc provide a bit easier method for network isolation. Yes, you can setup network on docker too, but easier with lxc

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and of course you can run docker directly on the proxmox machine

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 PM

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Just do kube

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DogeWink

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:20 PM

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Im trying to not keeping it too complicated. The WAF is at minus 10 billion

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 1:21 PM

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I've used lxc since before docker was a thing o.0

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never warmed up to docker. Though it's the better runtime for application containers

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and sadly got the better tooling for integration by now =.=

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:24 PM

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I use both. I use an LXC for frigate cause since I can easily pass 3 vlans and isolate software to non public vlan

compact jay Dec 31, 2021, 1:25 PM

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hi Where can I find user recovery help?

velvet horizonBOT Dec 31, 2021, 1:25 PM

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The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Amber see #yellow-archived, and #330990055533576204 for the Blue. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

If you found this server and want to know what it's about, start with the web site: https://www.home-assistant.io/

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

glacial knot Dec 31, 2021, 1:26 PM

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I'd assume it's either the installation method, or #general-archived

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though I'm not sure what you mean by user recovery. Is it #cloud-archived ? You should know better than me 🙂

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:28 PM

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we should find some user recovery help for atx as well

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:29 PM

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atx just give you a puke face

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:32 PM

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it was modeled after his real face

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:33 PM

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🤢

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:38 PM

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Selfie

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@clear ferry pretend to be so cool, but have a secret passion for rupaul drag race and ex on the beach

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yey got native IPV6 to work

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:41 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/surprised-rpdr-rupauls-drag-race-girl-cant-believe-gif-15438257

Tenor

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 1:42 PM

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late gate Selfie

He actually has an emoji selfie of himself

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:42 PM

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I know

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:45 PM

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atx

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:45 PM

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Im planning to lay cables CAT6 visible. I have no choice, but I really notice plex running slower on wifi. Was thinking white cat cable on top of the footboard with white cable staples should be the most invisible.

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:47 PM

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Just do powerline like a proper newb

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late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:47 PM

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I dont have grounded plugs so never going to get a good output with power

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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plex should not be running so slow on wifi that you actually notice buffering. you got wifi issues

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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this

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For once I agree with Sonoma

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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cause i am always right

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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KEKW

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:48 PM

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Well, I am picky

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one second vs two seconds buffering

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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apparently not if your going to string cat lines all over the floor lol

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:49 PM

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I notice difference in browsing using eth vs wlan

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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you got alot of neighbors close around you?

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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yeah

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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you might be having some serious interference

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try changing your channel

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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but I have 3 floors, so hard to cover all

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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or run 5ghz if you have the option

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:50 PM

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I am also planning to use stadia, nvidia now and those services, so plugged is better

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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my ancient old roku sticks can use 5ghz so that's what I use

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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I had less lag on my apple tv than my nvidia shield

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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5ghz can handle all that

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:51 PM

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but apple refuse atmos on plex

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only of paid streaming

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:52 PM

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do you have coax wired in the house?

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 PM

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no, I pulled out all coax for eth points in all rooms (except office)

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the old owner had sattelite

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:53 PM

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so this one spot dosen't have a lan point?

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:54 PM

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yeah, so I have to pull a cable to the office, garage and the tv/media center

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the rest I can connect

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A bit of the theory is that I can keep things running with POE via one UPS in the cellar

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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still think you should fix your wifi, your going to have to fix it eventually anyways

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with wifi6 being over a gig it's silly not to utilize it

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:55 PM

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I think the WIFI is optimal

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that might be cause of the appletv was faster as it got ax

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so it had 1200/1200 on the wifi

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shield get 600/600 ish

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but im not running 160mhz

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:57 PM

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plex only needs 1.5Mb/s

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soo...

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:58 PM

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I hate people running omnis that take SO many channels

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Plex is not a BIG issue. we are talking about a second more buffering

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 1:58 PM

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thats why you should invest in 5ghz

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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I have, but cannot use DFS cause close to airport

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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WhiteGuyBlinking

strange crag Dec 31, 2021, 1:59 PM

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but RPi wont run on 5ghz! lol

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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strange crag but RPi wont run on 5ghz! lol

sure it does, as long as you get the right one

strange crag Dec 31, 2021, 2:00 PM

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Neither will most of the HA devices like esp8266 etc

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:01 PM

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Dunno know it going to be with the 6ghz band

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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esp8266 is going bye bye so natural selection will fix that lol

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:02 PM

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late gate I have, but cannot use DFS cause close to airport

What?

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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strange crag Neither will most of the HA devices like esp8266 etc

And that’s why you use zigbee think

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:03 PM

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No, you use zigbee because bees are magnificent creatures

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https://tenor.com/view/bee-gif-23793608

Tenor

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So elegant

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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Zigraccoon soon? lul

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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I am working on it. Patent pending

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All the data packets are 100% trash

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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ZigBee lyfe

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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I wish they used a lower frequency on zigbee

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:04 PM

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So it won't interfere with other data on the 2.4 band

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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No need for other frequencies

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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It would make sense, but because of how they decided stuff will be, we are stuck

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:05 PM

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120 ZigBee devices,no WiFi devices have issues

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DogeWink

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Only 120? Is that some kind of peasant installation?

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/peasant-joke-rich-understand-funny-horrible-histories-gif-15537482

Tenor

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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lol 120

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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But seriously, it is amazing how much stuff you caan zigbee if you want

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:06 PM

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Im only worried the rumors of zb ch25 is also limited

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lots of rumors floating around

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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really I don't see a whole lot of stuff you can zigbee lol

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Just don't run zb25

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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My outside lights are 7 devices, alone. Ouch

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Problem solved

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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mostly just your run of the mill basic sensors lol

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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last cedar My outside lights are 7 devices, alone. Ouch

Mine are 16

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Not everyone lives in a palace 🤣

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:07 PM

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Ikea tradfri work fine outdoors

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In -30c

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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I need more. At least 2 more on the short sides

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I haven't had issues with mine either Atx

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Took the new dimable colour spectrum ones gu10

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Same ones I've used outdoors for two years

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:08 PM

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Colour spectrum isn't needed, looks silly on anything but standard

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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why not run zb25?

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Dimming is nice though

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I change the colour every few weeks to make neighbours confused

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:09 PM

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late gate why not run zb25?

You are the one that is worried, so you should know atx

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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If its just a rumor its no point repair everything

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:10 PM

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Repairing is fast

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Probably 1.5h for 120 devices

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But just do proper interference scans first

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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I plan moving to ch20

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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Is it less congested then 25? Then do it

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:11 PM

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clear ferry I change the colour every few weeks to make neighbours confused

Haha

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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Seriously

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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wtf is zb25?

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:12 PM

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My neighbor came up and thought the lights were broken @last cedar

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beardmogi

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I should change them all for RGB at some point, for Halloween and Christmas

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:13 PM

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thats what I do

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every holiday my outside lights change colors or do cycles

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and just automate it for that super lazy effect

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"see i didn't forget st patricks day"

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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You don't even have neighbours

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https://tenor.com/view/tumbleweed-desert-road-dry-hot-gif-21341693

Tenor

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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sure i do, they just don't live up my ass like yours

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:14 PM

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You are mistaking me for @late gate

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I can't even see my neighbours WiFi ssids

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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thats because they don't know what wifi is

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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lucky

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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you guys are still catching up remember

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Said the guy with a landline

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DogeWink

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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don't knock landline

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shit is stable and reliable

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:15 PM

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Until landline is literally a glorified VOIP line

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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we have both options

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Shit is currently being torn out of the ground and telephone lines here right now

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Decommissioning time

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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what for tho

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it hurts nothing

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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forest edge really I don't see a whole lot of stuff you can zigbee lol

Lights, switches, plugs, locks, etc. covers a lot

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:16 PM

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It's not being used, probably gonna recycle it

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Giant lightning conductor @forest edge

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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some day some norwat stranded won't have a means to call for help.. not that you all help each other anyways but still

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Copper in the ground requires maintenance, cheaper to not keep it

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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forest edge some day some norwat stranded won't have a means to call for help.. not that you...

Mobile phones

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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umbral cliff Lights, switches, plugs, locks, etc. covers a lot

not really

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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We have 4g coverage 2km out into the sea, we'll be fine

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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covers basic home automation..

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:17 PM

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forest edge not really

What stuff do you want as zigbee that isn’t

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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everything else that isn't?

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Like what? What do you have apart from that

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Well except cameras

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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never seen a zigbee tv or appliance

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or a camera

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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WhiteGuyBlinking

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Lolwut

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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Shakesperes zigbee, to bee or not zigbee

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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is there a zigbee tv?

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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You see now why we make fun of your nation @scenic radish

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goaFeelsLoveMan

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:18 PM

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hue is on ch 20 right now

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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forest edge is there a zigbee tv?

What exactly would be the point of that?

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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So 20 is perfect @late gate

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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No Zigbee camera exists because zigbee doesn't have enough bandwidth for that

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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scenic radish What exactly would be the point of that?

Add congestion to the wifi transmitter right next to it

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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scenic radish What exactly would be the point of that?

he asked, i answered. no point needed

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:19 PM

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The simple solution to your problem is a giant emp Aleks. Wipe out all competition

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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forest edge he asked, i answered. no point needed

So you specifically don’t like the fact that zigbee doesn’t exist on tvs?

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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just touching base on your zigbee covers everything

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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It covers everything that the average home user wants to do that doesn’t already have a need for wifi

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Or Ethernet

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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ZigBee life

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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so does bt

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:20 PM

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yeah I will change it since I got the pure POE tube

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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and more

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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forest edge so does bt

No mesh

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Gtfo

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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but not today ofc. I cant wait for the family thing being over

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Im so sick of christmas

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Lol family

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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not all zigbee is mesh

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as i found out..

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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late gate Im so sick of christmas

MOOD

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It starts in October

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Not a suprise people hate it

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:21 PM

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Because you buy poop or end devices yes @forest edge

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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but it's better quality than ikea..

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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saying the one who buy aquara

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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IKEA is great quality

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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ikea is the dollar store

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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Cheap doesn’t mean shit

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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late gate saying the one who buy aquara

Aqara is the shizzle

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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forest edge but it's better quality than ikea..

As someone living in Sweden I am deeply offended

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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aqura was pricey

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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None of that sonoff battery drain

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/svenska-muckar-du-swedish-swe-sweden-gif-15134254

Tenor

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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forest edge aqura was pricey

L o L

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:22 PM

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last cedar As someone living in Sweden I am deeply offended

sorry but truth hurts..

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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sonoff door and temperature is fine - keeping connected

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the PIR sensor sucks

umbral cliff Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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forest edge sorry but truth hurts..

Why do you think ikea is crap? Had stuff fail?

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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philips PIR is very good

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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sonoff is trash lol

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godamn hub still pisses me off

scenic radish Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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forest edge just touching base on your zigbee covers everything

TIL "covers a lot" means "covers everything"

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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Lol hub

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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I dont use sonoff hub

forest edge Dec 31, 2021, 2:23 PM

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scenic radish TIL "covers a lot" means "covers everything"

wanna fight?

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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forest edge sorry but truth hurts..

The trådfri gateway is crap, software is pretty crap. But the rest is actually pretty good IMO, just limited product line (that Hue has)

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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I just modded the tradfri led drivers to use my own LEDs

late gate Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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Though sonoff I dont believe is zb3 as advertised

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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DogeWink

last cedar Dec 31, 2021, 2:24 PM

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clear ferry I just modded the tradfri led drivers to use my own LEDs

Do you have any info on that?

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Not looked into it

clear ferry Dec 31, 2021, 2:25 PM

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Open, solder on the connector you want

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DogeWink

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