Turn off the lights 
#the-water-cooler
deft pewter
If you can't see it, it's not messy.
Or even just close the door.
Oh my. Just when you thought VS Code couldn't get any better: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_59#_drag-and-drop-terminals-across-windows
delicate silo
Here's a presentation I gave on how I trained my cats to use the toilet. Unfortunately, I did most of this process before discovering HA. I wonder how HA could have aided in the training...
last cedar
Turn off the lights <:smart:723251852761628792>
You are a god
deft pewter
Thank you, I love dogs.
last cedar
Also
The "I am moving in a week" computer corner
Don't spend too long looking
It gets worse the more you look
forest edge
did you 3d print you the mounts to make that rack attach to that shelf bracket?
jovial marten
is that an Optiplex?
lucid bison
is that a ups on top?
deft pewter
But you tidied that up so well before ๐ข
deft pewter
is that a ups on top?
The whole damned thing is an oops.
low harness
Oh! I was saved by my new UPS today! Lost power for like 30 seconds, but my teams meeting kept going because the router and modem were in the UPSed server cabinet.
neon hawk
i was about to goto bed then i saw that pick up there its haunting me
lucid bison
The whole damned thing is an oops.
lmao
neon hawk
racoons cannot do CAT5!
sterile fractal
Analytics show 400 more users since yesterday. This almost double each daily increase.
lucid bison
Oh! I was saved by my new UPS today! Lost power for like 30 seconds, but my team...
i make sure anything for the network is ups'd, the servers have their own, and so does the network
neon hawk
oh thats interesting @sterile fractal
lucid bison
i make sure anything for the network is ups'd, the servers have their own, and s...
ups power usage on servers
deft pewter
- You don't know how delayed the analytics are.
- You don't know how many existing users recently opted in to analytics
- There's never been a noticeable increase in the past.
If you want to see patterns, you'll find them. It's why people see animals in clouds and all that nonsense.
low harness
LTT videos have coincided with influx of forum users before, though.
deft pewter
Strange that they don't show up here or in the install figures.
neon hawk
thier forum is also huge right?
low harness
Either way, it's good publicity if they like it.
neon hawk
i dont see a downside to it
sterile fractal
If we see success in the clouds and believe, success will follow.
People know if you're faking it. We certainly are not
neon hawk
I am amazed at how far HA has come in the last few years
deft pewter
i dont see a downside to it
No-one's said there's any downside. There's just not the miracle upside some people pretend exists.
The Ars Technica articles got way more attention, tbh.
neon hawk
yes those were good
deft pewter
For anyone that missed the big one back in March: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2021/03/how-to-achieve-smart-home-nirvana-or-home-automation-without-subscription/
It's all intelligible too, which is more than I can say for Linus most of the time.
sterile fractal
lol I just googled the same article
neon hawk
Frenck has done some stuff in the NL national press also
not read it but heard him talk about it on a stream
sterile fractal
It all comes down to the community. My start with python was the book Automate the boring stuff with python. My goalzero yeti was not integrated so I set out to do it and appreciated all the patience from the members.
Now I'm working on config flows, the latest being nfandroidtv. DHCP PR is currently open.
neon hawk
nice one man
sterile fractal
Android and fire tvs are everywhere so I believe this to be a powerful addition.
neon hawk
i cant code for shit but i am a good flag waving promotor and very enthused about all things HA
sterile fractal
You can if you put the effort in ๐ What I still need is the possible host names from other fire tvs and android tvs. Anyone here who can provide some from DHCP is a major help.
neon hawk
dont have one sorry
subtle pasture
Those tend to appear with the name you gave the device during setup
My Nvidia Shield (Android TV) appears as "LivingRoomShield"
Also, any device with a MAC address that begins with 00:04:4b is an Nvidia device
Amazon uses all of the following prefixes: https://hwaddress.com/company/amazon-technologies-inc/
So your FireTV will have one of those
lucid bison
if you download the iso file, you should be able to make a bootable os like you would for an rpi
hushed basalt
lucid bison
lol
or
you go to your school bin
and pull out a bunch of ubiquiti aps
then u diy a cloudkey
lucid bison
kk
minor nexus
then run it as a VM? or a docker container? what else are you expecting?
sorry I missed your earlier rant
you want the homeassistant core install method
green inlet
Run docker or virtual environment. But docker is just easy. Itโs all HAss under the hood.
Docker and VEnv are virtually same except you donโt have to worry about keeping up with Python
static schooner
You donโt need addons
static schooner
Just that. Run your own utilities
Pick your poison. Yes, but you have quite a few requirements
last cedar
But you tidied that up so well before ๐ข
|| it has never been tidy ||
You are probably thinking of my diy built rack :)
That is actually tidy. And not done yet
last cedar
did you 3d print you the mounts to make that rack attach to that shelf bracket?
No, its wood
last cedar
is that an Optiplex?
Yes, opnsense and pihole running under esx
last cedar
is that a ups on top?
Yes. If it falls, I really want to learn my lesson, by it killing me
Everything in the pic is being replaced by a rack, with rackmount stuff, router is already done (more or less). New truenas box isn't done yet. More stuff to sort at home I guess hehe
bitter pawn
and considering that UPS weighs as much as a typical raccoon does,
you gonna have a tough time
last cedar
It weighs as much as a chonkmaster 3000 raccoon
bitter pawn
you finna be like this.
bitter pawn
you got this yo...
last cedar
Haha!!!
bitter pawn
last cedar
It was a little awkward to put up there, but it will be fine :D
But yeah, it has always been temporary, ans I never cared about that corner
bitter pawn
racks are stupid expensive
but im extremely happy with my navepoint rack
my tripplite was overprice imo
bitter pawn
lolz
i like my 26u rack on casters. its a decent size, not too big, not too small.
the 13u is nice for my gaming desktop. but i'd never buy another one. i paid $100 more for the tripplite vs. my navepoint, and both are solid.
i just wouldnt get a startech.
lawrence systems does them and he's like "yeah it sways a little bit, but it wont fail..."
both of my racks you could hit with a hammer, there is no swaying.
last cedar
Sounds solid :D
last cedar
bitter pawn
last cedar
That is the base of mine. 45x70 timbers, double screwed and glued.
16mm mdf on the outside, wheels etc
bitter pawn
i was thinking of building my own
last cedar
bitter pawn
but the price of rails is retarded
last cedar
Those were pretty cheap
bitter pawn
oh yeah?
bitter pawn
i remember it being like $100 a pair for a 26u
and i was like...shit...
navepoint is only $226
xD
last cedar
Ooof, I think I payed 80 for 2 pairs, cage nut screw tool, 200 screws, washers and cage nuts and the wheels
last cedar
But those times are gone
bitter pawn
aw ๐ฆ
last cedar
UK is not EU anymore
bitter pawn
no cheap chinese shit for you
now its just crap british built stuff ๐
with yorkshire tea scents
๐
last cedar
Yes, only the cheap British shit for me
last cedar
They were probaably made in China anyway ๐คฃ
bitter pawn
its sad to think that the cheap chinese knockoff car parts i got for my project car helped build that insanity over there.
last cedar
Mmmm
worldly sierra
New home auto server? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH9GwYZu_aE
hushed basalt
Anyone know of a good solvent to remove silicone caulking residue from a bathroom, before I recaulk it
forest edge
silicone shouldn't leave a residue, you mean removed small slivers?
plain trail
hushed basalt
The tiles are textured and bevelled
I've used silicone remover tools, knives, scrapers, brushes, power brushes, and methylated spirits
young sigil
Methyl-ethyl-ketone (MEK).
Or if you want to get really aggressive Dichloromethane (DCM).
last cedar
The clock is in reverse
young sigil
It is both day and night. There are brooms in the fridge. Using a mower (or maybe floor polisher) on a rug. One shoe, one slipper. Books under the sink?
Chair is missing a foot.
hushed basalt
Clock is anti-clockwise, entryway leads to outdoors, curtains are outside, night through window day through doorway, sink doesn't fit with stuff under draws, vaccum cleaner or whatever is cordless, probably something wrong with the calendar too but too many pixels,
low harness
It's 31 days, but it's possible it says JUNE. There's also carrots growing on that stalk.
static schooner
I feel like thereโs a social statement, but maybe overthinking
low harness
That too
dusky plank
nah, you hallucinate. itโs just material issues
lucid bison
young sigil
So it is. I'd better get in the car and drive round all night then.
plain trail
Clock is anti-clockwise, entryway leads to outdoors, curtains are outside, night...
Nice. Keep watch this picture. There so many spots.
Carrot grow like tree 
13 hours o'clock 
dusky plank
you are writing off-topic things in #the-water-cooler and you get no good answers
better use a hpe apollo 80 system or your addons will be slow
clever mortar
HA is HA, add-ons are other software
It's also technically a support question, which is off topic in #the-water-cooler
I've never had add-ons, never missed them
night zodiac
has there been an influx of Linusers
static schooner
I haven't seen an increase in silliness beyond typical levels
night zodiac
nice
deft pewter
Same answer every time he posts: nope.
The attention is cool but we don't really get more people in here. Someone said the forums get a little busier.
clever mortar
TBH another few hundred members would be a drop in the ocean
There's nearly 75K members, of which 8K are currently online. Even another thousand would be no big deal
deft pewter
And I doubt each HA-related video he posts generates 1k installs.
Maybe the installation process should ask how people heard about HA
- Recommended by a friend
- Who's Linus?
glacial knot
Torvalds?
night zodiac
I was mostly just wondering about more questions in discord, not sure how you would notice the installs but probably a way
what's a Torvalds
deft pewter
Analytics
night zodiac
well, thanks
deft pewter
Linus Torvald - creator of Linux
glacial knot
Or Linus Neumann? o.0
night zodiac
clever mortar
I was mostly just wondering about more questions in discord, not sure how you wo...
Most would likely arrive in #330990055533576204 first, and many of us have that one muted for the sake of what's left of our sanity ๐
glacial knot
heyhey, it's not #330944238910963714
glacial knot
has never been in either, but head things
deft pewter
heyhey, it's not <#330944238910963714>
Supervised is fine. At least that's where all the experts go.
clever mortar
brisk glen
my god, I need to move over to my own firmware managed thermostat
I just had to call ecobee to downgrade as they broke homekit with the occupancy sensors
glacial knot
oh right, I need to tasmota one device I got here
brisk glen
ecobee homekit = only LAN API
night zodiac
I am going to put a new hotend on my ender 5 pro this week and get wild.
shy comet
I am going to put a new hotend on my ender 5 pro this week and get wild.
whatd you get? microswiss?
night zodiac
going to order a Hemera
I don't know much about printers, it is just what I decided on after a tiny bit of reading
lucid bison
i like my 26u rack on casters. its a decent size, not too big, not too small.
i like my rack, 42U on casters, however ive added up all of the weight including rack, servers, network and the two ups's and it comes out to just over 1 tonne.
inner vault
home labโ
home labโ
bitter pawn
i like my rack, 42U on casters, however ive added up all of the weight including...
oof
lucid bison
1 tonne of server equipment for a *home* lab?
its deffo a home lab
clever mortar
Because some people just like to see their world burn?
deft pewter
Starting with their house when they overload the mains.
What's the appeal with these massive homelabs? I kinda get having some managed switches and a few servers if you're studying toward a role in that area (or keeping on top of your skills), but I see so many over the top setups when just paying for hosting would be cheaper and easier.
clever mortar
They who die with the most toys win
To paraphrase a previous boss of mine
Personally I need just enough at home, I don't need something like I'd want at work
deft pewter
I'm happy with my NUC and an unmanaged 4-port switch ๐
Will build a NAS one day, and maybe another basic home server for the missus to practise on. Can't see any need to go beyond that, even with both of us working in tech.
clever mortar
Eh, having a Xeon based home server (ok, a 25W Xeon) has been very handy for video transcoding
I don't need a space heater, I need something efficient
deft pewter
25W is reasonable. It's when people talk about having power draw in the kW regions that it gets nuts. In most countries, that's not cheap.
Just going to leave this here: https://youtu.be/i8qsZHMthxk?t=12
tame cove
hi everyone ๐
lucid bison
Starting with their house when they overload the mains.
1600 watts is the max, it runs of a standard british plug and has no issues
the only time the breaker trips is if i turn the switch off
i think its a grounding issue as it doesnt pop the breaker but the main mcb or whatever its called
if your wondering why so many, manly network storage, and i also do server hosting
deft pewter
So... around 1150kWh/month? Noice... 'only' ยฃ150/month.
lucid bison
around that lol, its about ยฃ120 a month
deft pewter
How much local storage do you need for yourself?
lucid bison
yeah but hardware raid over 12 drives
deft pewter
I'm not criticising. I'm genuinely interested why people do this.
lucid bison
its fun
deft pewter
To me, it seems way more efficient and resilient to have something up in AWS/GCP.
lucid bison
i also do server hosting
also this
deft pewter
What can you host locally that you can't set up a VPS for that costs less?
lucid bison
To me, it seems way more efficient and resilient to have something up in AWS/GCP...
while yes it may be more cost effective, wheres the fun in that? actually having the devices physically is more entertaining personally.
deft pewter
Seriously. Stop with the fucking tagging.
deft pewter
You're funny... but the next time I get a ping, you're going on the blocklist with all the other repeat offenders.
lucid bison
i genuinly forget about it, its to the side and is small so i dont notice
deft pewter
That's what she said.
lucid bison
:pepecry:
vague ginkgo
I wish people could just turn off recieving those pings, because you never know who wants to recieve reply pings and who doesn't. I know I prefer to get them and don't really know why anyone wouldn't want them
deft pewter
I'm not anti-ping. I'm anti-constant-pinging-from-all-the-strangers-on-the-server.
lucid bison
i will make it my mission to turn off the "@"
vague ginkgo
Well you only recieve the pings to the replies directly to you though, not from all the strangers on the server
deft pewter
๐ค
I think you're underestimating just how often the folk with roles get pinged.
Dozens of times would be a good day.
vague ginkgo
I'm anti-unnecessary ping, I hate role ping when they're not needed. 100% with ya there.
But reply pings? I feel like that's one of the few times it's necessary.
deft pewter
Nah.
vague ginkgo
I think you're underestimating just how often the folk with roles get pinged.
Yeah, you're probably right ๐
deft pewter
I'm slightly less bothered when it's a personal chat in here. It gets really annoying when it's for support and any of the other 7/8k people that were online at the time could've answered the question.
lucid bison
I don't like pings when it gets to this many unread... Oops
deft pewter
If I'm here and I see your message, I might choose to answer. If I'm not here, I'm not coming back because some random pinged me.
vague ginkgo
haha, yeah, I'm in way too many servers, so my backlog of pings is useless lol. If I don't see the ping as it comes in I never see it.
deft pewter
Not until you leave this one ๐
lucid bison
never!!!
vague ginkgo
If I'm here and I see your message, I might choose to answer. If I'm not here, I...
I used to totally fair, more reason I wish that it was a reciever side preference instead of a sender side one.
deft pewter
You all remember Lollipop by Aqua, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oogXPsnvgm8&list=RDMM&index=24
lucid bison
nope
vague ginkgo
I used to totally fair, more reason I wish that it was a reciever side preferenc...
I'm not even sure if I remembered to turn it off on that one lol
lucid bison
well ill listen in case i have
deft pewter
I used to totally fair, more reason I wish that it was a reciever side preferenc...
Even if it were, I still wouldn't turn it off. There are times when a ping is welcome. I just don't want everyone else to ping every time.
lucid bison
nope, never heard it
deft pewter
It's less important for me... but for mods? They sometimes need to respond to things quickly.
deft pewter
nope, never heard it
Lemme guess... you're around 18-20?
vague ginkgo
I've also never heard of it, I'm 27
deft pewter
๐ฎ
lucid bison
18, nearly 19
deft pewter
I thought late twenties would be old enough to recognise it. Aqua were huge for a couple of years.
vague ginkgo
I thought I recognized it at first, but after giving it a quick watch and scrub, it was entirely foriegn. No recognition at all lol ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
deft pewter
They had lots of terrible hits. Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_LPJllaogU
low harness
The "Barbie Girl" Aqua?
deft pewter
C'mon Barbie, let's go party!
vague ginkgo
ah, that song I do remember lol
low harness
Calling doctor Jones
lucid bison
IM A BARBIE GIRLLL, IN A BARBIE WORLLD
deft pewter
I don't think I've ever seen the Cartoon Heroes video. Didn't know it was a parody of Fifth Element ๐
deft pewter
IM A BARBIE GIRLLL, IN A BARBIE WORLLD
So you do know them ๐
deft pewter
Calling doctor Jones
Around the same time that released, a newly-qualified teacher had the misfortune of teaching at my school. Her name... Doctor Jones.
She was also rather attractive and taught at a boys-only school ๐คฃ
lucid bison
lmao
low harness
That sounds like a potentially terrible situation regardless of name, honestly.
deft pewter
Yeah, I think she got a lot of unwanted attention. The name was just the cherry on top.
Surprised she went into teaching, tbh. With a PhD in physics, teaching seemed like a waste.
low harness
But teaching is fun
deft pewter
๐คช
low harness
No really
deft pewter
Do you teach? ๐ฎ
deft pewter
Yeah, I think that's the big difference... you have a (fairly) willing audience.
low harness
True
deft pewter
I couldn't teach at a high school, and I don't think I'd want full-time, formal teaching. I love mentoring people on the job.
If I'd finished my first degree, I would probably be travelling the world teaching English. My experiences with teaching adults that actually want to be there were quite positive.
low harness
Before the current situation I used to tour some local high schools once a year and talk about being an engineer. That was really fun.
clever mortar
I've done talks for the school network here, really enjoyed those
low harness
Best one was a math class that wanted to know how complex numbers are used in real life...
deft pewter
I've done talks for the school network here, really enjoyed those
How do you manage to convey something as complicated as your job with just grunts? ๐ค
deft pewter
Best one was a math class that wanted to know how complex numbers are used in re...
They're not. Everyone knows they're fake.
deft pewter
(how are they used in real life?)
low harness
I do some 3-phase power calculations. Complex approximations are incredibly handy for sine waves.
And I had an example on how to calculate the temperature fields around a round cable under ground by scrounging the infinite ground plane into a circle with the cable in the middle through a complex Moebius transormation. I have a neat gif of it somewhere too
deft pewter
You lost me at infinite ground plane.
I didn't take physics past high school, and I've forgotten a lot of what I knew then ๐
low harness
Should have said surface. From the point of view of a power cable, the earth is pretty much flat and infinite.
And despite it actually being round, the cable is way near the edge. But all calculations would be much easier if it were in the dead center.
So with the flat earth approximation, you can actually transform the entire coordiate system to one that looks the way you want it, make your calculations there and then transform everything - including the results - back.
clever mortar
Ah... maths. Where you get to ignore things when they're inconvenient ๐
low harness
Alternatively, you can let someone else do all this and read the results from a table.
deft pewter
You can even throw away the calculator and just use log tables.
I think Tinkerer is old enough to remember those ๐
low harness
I'm sure I have a slide rule laying around here somewhere...
clever mortar
I like working with people who can solve problems for me ๐
deft pewter
I used to. Kinda sad I lost it, it was my grandparents' ๐ฆ
Only knew how to use half the scales on it.
low harness
deft pewter
Trust the engineer to carry a log table around.
clever mortar
But.... PDF....
deft pewter
About the only useful thing I remember about logs is that whole 2log(n) = log(n^2) thing. And I've only used it a handful of times to calculate compound interest stuff in reverse.
static schooner
There would be something charming about carrying around log tables on an iPad
last cedar
This is the only appropriate log for off topic
deft pewter
Man. All these Aqua songs the YouTube autoplay keeps queuing up are making me nostalgic.
I forgot how many hits they had.
deft pewter
You only recognise one. You weren't even alive when they were around ๐
Fine, something more recent that even bingles might appreciate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E
deft pewter
I love Bad Lip Reading. It's great that they can take something old and do something fun with it that even you kids enjoy.
deft pewter
Fun fact: Tinkerer saw The Empire Strikes Back for his 40th birthday.
deft pewter
Well it released in 1980.
deft pewter
That was 41 years ago.
lucid bison
hes 81?
deft pewter
They have really great broadband at his care home.
lucid bison
i thought he was like late 30's early 40's
deft pewter
Nice, the YouTube algorithms getting back on track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2SIzfZwLLo
lucid bison
i like this ^^
deft pewter
Wait until you hear about Diggy Diggy Hole.
lucid bison
gib
deft pewter
Afk, find it yourself. By Wind Rose
In case you were too lazy, I'm back at my desk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU
Dwarf metal โค๏ธ
lucid bison
yeah id found it lol
lucid bison
nah i found the one you sdent first
deft pewter
I prefer the original but the remix is still amazing.
When the beat drops at around 0:50 ๐ฅ
lucid bison
indeed
deft pewter
And one last guilty pleasure for the night, then I'll stop spamming music ๐ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmSbXsFE3l8
lucid bison
lmao
lucid bison
n?
patent crane
with?
patent crane
ok wait will the ios app work on mac?
lucid bison
i dont think so
deft pewter
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
There are dozens of support channels. This isn't one of them.
7k other people will see your messages in #general-archived, you don't need to ask us to 'join you'
deft pewter
๐คจ
If you're being serious... no. If you think you're being somehow funny, still no.
glacial knot
sometimes I'm just baffled
lucid bison
turns out, im not the only bingles in here
like, with wifi off? or just no external internet?
glacial knot
#zigbee-archived #zwave-archived tasmota, #diy-archived are probably the most interesting ones
Then also check #integrations-archived for local communication tag
deft pewter
Seems like a #diy-archived topic ๐คทโโ๏ธ
As you'll remember from earlier, this topic isn't for support.
velvet horizonBOT
glacial knot
if you need cookies, ask your local ad vendor please
glacial knot
go
<me is annoyed to be missing my ๐คฆโโ๏ธ emotes in here again>
static schooner
I have no idea?
forest edge
ban them!
static schooner
should I know?
forest edge
not how it works
deft pewter
Yet I'm the troll
brisk glen
I am never looking at #ios_and_mac-archived ever again
forest edge
but but apple is your thang @brisk glen
brisk glen
@forest edge theres .... people everywhere who are not adept as basic problem solving
deft pewter
The first thing I did was guide you to the relevant channel to get help. ๐คทโโ๏ธ
You have my deepest condolences if that upset you.
forest edge
mono is british, if he dosen't come across as rude he ain't healthy and will be in need of medical care
deft pewter
You know me too well โค๏ธ
Ping, ping, ping.
Yours isn't the only blocklist that'll be growing tonight if you keep pinging people.
If you want to get help on this server, you'd do well to not alienate the helpers.
wtf is 'concern trolling'?
๐
And yet you're reading my messages.
Get off your high horse.
lucid bison
lmao
brisk glen
concern trolling? that sounds like some new age we cant call that man white or black now in our descriptions. yes a person robbed me, no I cant say their skin color as it would be racist... but it was soo bright like starlight, I was blinded when he entered the store
lucid bison
ahh, this amuses me, if i do say so
deft pewter
There was no 'genuine discussion'. There was you pinging me and me asking you not to.
If you're going to act all sensitive, you don't get to ignore the thoughts and feelings of others.
brisk glen
@midnight adder plus your question was a #diy-archived
lucid bison
i was saying you amuse me
deft pewter
It's almost like my comments have thus far been justified ๐คทโโ๏ธ
glacial knot
@deft pewter if you want pings, give me your ip ๐
brisk glen
"there's hobbiest Qi systems for charging projects. Why not hack one into your door frame and door side so when your door closes your smart lock charges" __ DIY
lucid bison
"there's hobbiest Qi systems for charging projects. Why not hack one into your d...
exacttly 100,000 points to you
brisk glen
hacking imposes do it youreself
deft pewter
Again, not my first interaction with you ๐
brisk glen
@lucid bison by using door sensors and homekit ๐
lucid bison
๐คฃ
brisk glen
I already do this lol
lucid bison
must be
deft pewter
Am I the only one reacting to posts?
You seem way too upset by all of this and should probably take a break.
wet pilot
Ok, dumping some water on this
lucid bison
Am I the only one reacting to posts?
nope i am also lol
deft pewter
You realise the name calling isn't productive too? ๐
lucid bison
sorry i pinged
wet pilot
Chill it out everyone
brisk glen
and he needs to loose weight soon or will die relatively soon ๐ฆ
deft pewter
If that's the lifestyle someone chooses to live, that's on them.
opaque girder
you do you, he does him
brisk glen
being married to my wife.... has scared me about a lot of things medically related
lucid bison
just because hes a bit chunkier, doesnt mean hes gonna die instantly
brisk glen
2? more like 1
deft pewter
just because hes a bit chunkier, doesnt mean hes gonna die instantly
If that gif is anything to go by, he's morbidly obese and might not make it far past 40 ๐คทโโ๏ธ
People underestimate the impact that being so overweight has on other aspects of your health.
There's a reason so many overweight people died to Covid.
deft pewter
it just depends on his health mainly
Other way round... his health depends on his weight.
deft pewter
Obesity is one of the most common comorbidities for pretty much anything else.
forest edge
being married to my wife.... has scared me about a lot of things medically relat...
well stop wearing the ball gag all the time and you won't have much to fear medically lmao
brisk glen
with diabetes and covid, the MASSIVE issue is that they really cant give yourself asteroids
brisk glen
medical things that can reduce inflammation on lets say the lungs to prevent scarring
deft pewter
Steroids.
forest edge
is that steriods?
steriods suck so bad
I guess if you are sicker than what the steriods make you
brisk glen
steroids yah thats it
steroid shots for allergies is amazing
@midnight addernot really
you cant deliver nearly as much
forest edge
both are considered poison by doctors
deft pewter
both are considered poison by doctors
Ask your doctor if this poison is right for you.
forest edge
pretty much
brisk glen
for the covid protocol to be effective, they need to give a certain dosage and doing this to diabetic is... very high risk of killing you on the ventilator or table
it stops covid from fucking up your lungs
prevents them from becoming inflamed and thus damaged....... thats low
forest edge
your on chemo and caught covid?
brisk glen
chemo probably killed covid
forest edge
it probably did, steriods kills cancer to a degree
ah
couldn't imagine someone surviving having both
yea but again chemo is poison so it's toll on the body is massive
I was on steriods during covid and was scared to leave the house lol
lucid bison
lol how?
my desktop has 32
and one of my servers has 64
3 of the others have 72gb
thats still a lot
brisk glen
one of my server is 4 GB of ram, running object detection with live tracking and only pulling 8w of power... ha
welcome to nature
forest edge
one of my server is 4 GB of ram, running object detection with live tracking and...
we know you have a rpi4 sheesh
brisk glen
I have hundreds of these
lucid bison
aww the cats smiling
i also have a cat
i shall if :
A:i can find it,
B:it doesnt try to kill me
brisk glen
deft pewter
Can you rotate that 90 degrees?
brisk glen
I could if I decided to spend 10s
brisk glen
As long as slow as your internet is
deft pewter
It takes about that's a support question minutes to set up.
brisk glen
Haha
lucid bison
in my rack i have a total of 348gb ram and 122 cores
why can i react with emojis, the screen wiggles
deft pewter
why can i react with emojis, the screen wiggles
To whom?
lucid bison
this one
deft pewter
Haha. Okay.
Your Discord must be broken.
I'm sure they'll be overjoyed. That'll help feed them.
brisk glen
they're climbing the grass. what's wrong with that?
if only I had a lawn that I owned
lucid bison
same
i dont suppose this could be the issue
my gpu at 100%
i doubt it tbh
or it could be because of my pc uptime
static schooner
now control all the things
brisk glen
good luck
i hate the template syntax
yes
considering the cameras are h264 vbr with aac audio... fine
im running frigate with a google coral
unifi protect to pi4 with a google coral usb stick running frigate
4 cameras at 30% cpu usage
funky unifi medium
looks great really, and .... I can do 1080p if I was not processing for motion
buy an intel nuc
intel nuc
core i5 or i7
lucid bison
amd power hungry
brisk glen
ideally in 5 years, you will have some good arm boards
brisk glen
I would ask is the apple tv wifi or lan but ... THERE IS NO SUPPORT FOR HOME ASSISTANT HERE
subtle pasture
Strictly speaking some of those impacted AMD and ARM CPUs as well. It wasn't so much an intel design flaw as a industry-wide design flaw when it comes to Spectre... any CPU with branch prediction is potentially vulnerable to the same, or similar attack.
brisk glen
even apple has the same issues
subtle pasture
Also fun: The Raspberry Pi 3 (and older) aren't vulnerable to spectre or meltdown because they use ARM SoCs that lack branch prediction. The Raspberry Pi 4, which uses a newer SoC with branch prediction, is vulnerable to spectre.
All OS's compiled for the Pi4 should have spectre mitigation baked in, though. Shouldn't be much left to worry about unless you're rolling your own Linux distro, and neglect to include the necessary mitigations/patches.
subtle pasture
even apple has the same issues
Heh, you're right. Researches demonstrated spectre on the Apple M1 as well
brisk glen
M1, A12-A14
brisk glen
Not a bug
Not a UI issue
Because you never actually turn them off
They always run, and usually manage HomeKit
Any button on the remote powers it on
Most users will just start pressing things
My wife and I have zero issues
subtle pasture
Guess you better never run a web browser... the spectre demonstration for the Apple M1 was done with some Javascript inside of Google Chrome
That's why these attacks are so dangerous, they can be a complete drive-by from a malicious (or compromised) website.
M1 is used in desktops...
The Apple M1 is their new ARM based processor
brisk glen
Iโm sorry if people are too stupid to try to not even press a button to see if the device wakes up
subtle pasture
I never said server
subtle pasture
Also web browsers get run on servers all the time. VDI / remote desktop infrastructure...
brisk glen
This is soo true
brisk glen
We as in?
subtle pasture
Yeah, I already verified the same exploit fails from Firefox, so that's good
brisk glen
My wife does not know about this
Hahahahaโฆ iPad with RDP
I can do everything off of my tablet and I do
subtle pasture
The exploit also fails in unpatched browsers running in Windows 10's "Application Guard" sandbox
So that's also good
Yeah, basically runs the entire browser in Hyper-V
brisk glen
Probably
subtle pasture
I remember reading about a few for Server 2008 R2, but nothing recent
brisk glen
Oh azureโฆ
subtle pasture
Also pretty slick that you can run Firefox and Chrome in the same protected sandbox as Edge. They aren't limiting it to their own browser.
brisk glen
I give it a few years before we go back to on prem
subtle pasture
in before Microsoft just runs every app in a Hyper-V sandbox
brisk glen
in before Microsoft just runs every app in a Hyper-V sandbox
Have you seen the MSIX package format?
subtle pasture
Yeah, I'm still running it on a Pi 3 (with a USB attached SATA SSD as the boot drive)
Every time I consider upgrading to a Pi4, there's some performance improvement in the next version of HA that staves it off. lol
subtle pasture
Yeah, you just need to set a OTP bit to enable USB and network boot.
brisk glen
Jump to intel NUC
subtle pasture
So you'll need to boot a Pi3 once from MicroSD to set the bit, and then never again
subtle pasture
Jump to intel NUC
I have an entire vSphere cluster I could run it on if I wanted. lol
subtle pasture
I don't think you know what vSphere is >_>
brisk glen
I do
You can have a single VM that can live migrate across hosts
Itโs kinda cool
Lol no
Not even
subtle pasture
@brisk glen You can also run a single VM in lockstep across two or more hosts, enabling high availability
brisk glen
Really? Lockstep? Amazing
subtle pasture
Cool tech, for sure. You can walk up and yank the power cords out of a server, and any VM with HA enabled keeps running like nothing happened
subtle pasture
They are literally always in sync. VMWare recommends a dedicated 10gbps link between servers that will be used for HA.
subtle pasture
Failover HA is what most VMs get, but occasionally you get that one server...
Setting up HA at the hypervisor level also tends to be simpler than doing it at the app level on the server, though with the potential for more overhead
brisk glen
So in other words, you are just bad at it so far
subtle pasture
Assuming the app you're dealing with even supports its own form of HA
brisk glen
I just assume most apps do not support HA
subtle pasture
I wonder if it's possible to build a HA cluster for HomeAssistant across a couple Raspberry Pi's ๐ค
it's based on docker, so that bodes well
brisk glen
In theory yes with standby
Just sync the file system and only allow 1 instance at a time
subtle pasture
You'd also need shared storage or clustered storage
brisk glen
Yep
brisk glen
Ideally you use a block sync clustered storage
The issue is HA does not really support multiple instances
subtle pasture
I'm not asking for multiple instances of Home Assistant, I want to run a single container in a High Availability cluster
Strictly speaking, there would be only one instance of the container
brisk glen
@subtle pasture easy with docker swarm
You just need to do a little extra like use a hot router standby protocol
For routing ingress
Each host in the swarm can route to any container on any host
You can use something like traefik or nginx as a global on each host
Docker can use service names as a dns name
Easy to route via nginx for high availability home assistant
Using a hot router standby will let you use the same ip for all hosts
Just donโt do this on raspberry pies like I have
@subtle pasture https://geek-cookbook.funkypenguin.co.nz/ha-docker-swarm/design/
This will get you going
In theory you can run your own personal assistant locally
This is how you swarm
static schooner
subtle pasture
Each host in the swarm can route to any container on any host
That description worries me. It makes it sound like the container-host relationship is such that a single container is only ever running on a single compute node
What happens when a compute node fails? Do a subset of containers suddenly die and restart, or do all continue as if nothing happened?
subtle pasture
<@209492654067548160> https://geek-cookbook.funkypenguin.co.nz/ha-docker-swarm/d...
Yeah, I just got down to how it handles node failure. I'd call that Fault Tolorence, not High Availability...
Containers running on the failed node die, and are restarted elsewhere, which is classic FT
subtle pasture
I believe they were being rhetorical
You were the "they" in that sentence, @midnight adder . lol
young sigil
Probably because you are pissing people off.
And have been since you arrived.
No, you refused to understand the answers.
By not comprehending.
Look just keep it to "off topic" in here and we're all good.
Debateable.
tidal bronze
@forest edge is everything good in CA? Been away for few days
young sigil
That would be on github. Not here. And definitely not in Off Topic.
Worse probably. No punches are pulled on github.
Correct. Pictures of raccoons only here.
That's a bit extreme. If you are being threatened with violence notify a mod and include a screenshot.
#integrations-archived if you want advice on integrating Homebridge with Home Assistant
And this is not at all related to Home assistant? Sure go for it. Or find a Homebridge server.
subtle pasture
Could be worse, at least it's not a newer model Roborock
Still can't integrate mine with HomeAssistant without rooting it, which will require disassembling almost the entire robot. lol
Older models could be pair to the Mi Home app, which could be coaxed into giving up a static API key... my model refuses to connect to the Mi Home app, and only seems to want to talk to the official Roborock app, which uses a rotating key.
It gets weirder: The damn thing runs Android...
There's a USB port hidden under a panel on top of the vacuum that will respond to a few ADB commands, but nothing useful.
They locked it down tight
This is why Valetudo is a thing... https://valetudo.cloud/
Once rooted, you can install Valetudo and forget about connecting to the cloud
I just need to make some time to tear down and flash ๐คทโโ๏ธ
tidal bronze
So you have a s6 and you can't connect it to HA via integration?
subtle pasture
I have an S4 Max, but same issue
The vacuum refuses to connect to the Mi Home app, so I can't get a static API key
tidal bronze
Strange. I have 3 all connected and runs fine.
subtle pasture
It connects just fine to the Roborock app, but that uses a rotating key
subtle pasture
Been a thing since I picked up this vacuum. I've seen a few other people having the same issue, but I dunno how common it is
The API keys from the Roborock app do work, but only for about 12 hours at a time
Then it rotates and the connection dies
I figure I'll just root the damn thing and run valetudo
tidal bronze
I have 2 x s6 and 1 older s5 never had any issues. Leaves any roomba in the dust.
subtle pasture
Oh yeah, functionally the vacuum is great
Getting it connected to HomeAssistant has just been next to impossible
The ability to root it at all is a recent development
tidal bronze
Although after using for many years, unless you are integrating traffic based cleaning I see no use in integration for regular scheduling
subtle pasture
Deebot is good, I hear
tidal bronze
Not in my tests. Nothing comes close to Roborock
subtle pasture
Yeah, except the high-end Deebot vacuums have dual cameras and object recognition, and generally won't vacuum up cords or cat poop >_>
My Roborock has gone finger painting more than once
tidal bronze
Oh don't have untrained pets at my place.
Deebot I tested went back to Amazon same day. Was a joke on cleaning performance
subtle pasture
I have trained pets, the problem is one is prissy and will poop next to the litterbox if it's just the slightest bit too dirty
Or we bought the wrong litter
He hates that too >_>
Dunno, I'll let you know when I get MQTT working on my vacuum. lol
tidal bronze
Best not ask for suggestions here. @midnight adder
You are new to the community, try to understand how things function here. You unleashed that documentation was shit few days ago. Now you want to do stuff....just adhere to our general rules.
Keep it simple.
Thank you.
@subtle pasture let me know what you find just about to replace s5 with a s7 and don't want to tinker if rolling codes are a thing.
forest edge
<@104768700069990400> is everything good in CA? Been away for few days
yea most of the state is still on fire and covid is rampaging nicely through the cities. I say all in all a much better look for cali
tidal bronze
So can I go back on Thursday? ๐คฃ
forest edge
don't see why not.. even if they did ever quarantine the state you could just dress like a homeless to get back in without issue
tidal bronze
@forest edge like homeless?
forest edge
yea.. don't cali homeless dress like sous chefs and buisnessmen?
tidal bronze
@forest edge that's what I thought, ok then. ๐
forest edge
where you at now?
tidal bronze
Today in NY heading to MA tomorrow then back to CA on Thursday
forest edge
how is NY looking these days?
tidal bronze
Wonderful. Although 89 and damn humid. ๐
forest edge
i saw the govener is resigning cause he couldn't keep his hands off the female coworkers lol
tidal bronze
Yeah there's that. Doesn't effect my dinner plate so don't bother me.
forest edge
pretty sure only arthur of atlantis could effect your dinner plate
tidal bronze
Talking about dinner ate too much. This is torture.
forest edge
NY food? yea your as good as dead
tidal bronze
Nah some home cooked Moroccan food at a friend's place.
forest edge
ew you made friends in NY? whats wrong with you lol
tidal bronze
Have tons used to live here ages ago
@midnight adder that's for different roles
Just follow rules, help when you can, you will get there.
forest edge
you don't want one, trust me lol
tidal bronze
Another heatwave coming up in pacific NW. What a horrible summer
forest edge
we had a freak rainstorm here today but instead of cooling the air it just jumped the humidity to 70% with 90 degree temps
tidal bronze
Oh boy. Same here. Thunder storms and humidity skyrocketed
forest edge
welcome to what your damn state spews onto the rest of us
tidal bronze
Even roasted Kale ?
forest edge
thankfully your poor food choices don't spread much further than the state line
tidal bronze
Come on now, how can you hate roasted kale, some fleur de sel and dash of pepper ?
static schooner
Apple stuff
tidal bronze
Oh ok.
forest edge
with HA supporting homekit like it is, buying homekit enabled stuff should streamline into HA effortlessly
but none the less apple ๐คข
forest edge
i call bs on that.. don't care what provider you have you lost internet for atleast a few at some point lol
tidal bronze
@forest edge LTE failover at home. Never have lost connection
forest edge
thats still losing connection, you just have a secondary lol
what you using as your lte failover anyway?
tidal bronze
As long as I don't know, rather wife does not text me, that's all that matters.
forest edge
you got some fancy router with built in sim card?
tidal bronze
Sierra wireless modem going into edgerouter setup as fail over
Anything Apple never interested me and I don't think it ever will.
static schooner
well, if you have an Ecobee, you can use Homekit Controller in HA for a fully-local API without the need for any actual Apple stuff
forest edge
whioch is surprising cause between the connectivity and the speaker quality (use to be anyways) that is why alot of people went apple to begin with
like right up your ally quad lol
static schooner
it works around the crappy Ecobee servers, which truly suck
forest edge
it works around the crappy Ecobee servers, which truly suck
and they look so nice too then you get slapped lol
tidal bronze
I used to have ecobee and nest both and thought ecobee was better. But now strictly generic thermostat and all nest units as simple switches. Comfort level never been better. @static schooner
forest edge
thermostats are al;ready smart and have the ability to use external temp sensors to regulate individual room or zone temps.. really don't see a need to pipe it into HA at all
tidal bronze
I have to disagree there.
tidal bronze
Ecobee temp sensors are too slow. Nest does not have averaging. Just not as fast as 1 min temp sensors
forest edge
my stupid honeywell thermostat already self adjusts according to outside temp and humidity and handles pre-cool/pre-warm accordingly etc
thankfully you don't need to go with nest or ecobee to get cool features anymore so I would skip both of them regardless
tidal bronze
I agree. I can never go back to nest or ecobee now. Sadly local devices need a serious face lift.
tidal bronze
Oh nice.
forest edge
honeywell is cloud tho so i wouldn't go with them if you really wanted to tie it into your HA stuff
don't think any of the api is local but I am not sure since I didn't buy a gateway to even mess with it
tidal bronze
I am averaging 6 to 7 temp sensors per thermostat. When I have time going to integrate damper/register control for perfection. Just need to find the time.
tidal bronze
Well 3 dogs
forest edge
you walk into your house like that beverly hillbillies remake movie don't you
i have one thermostat, one sensor and one remote/sensor
if the woman gets too warm in a particular room i tell her to spritz herself with mist water
tidal bronze
I like your cooling algorithm
forest edge
works like a charm
reality is she takes the remote sensor and adjusts the whole house to her liking for that one damn room
wake up in a dead sweat cause she's fucking cold working in her office in the early am
tidal bronze
I honestly think the entire HVAC industry is nuts. None of the things they do makes sense to me.
forest edge
i mean it wasn't that long ago central air was a myth...
tidal bronze
And then power company gives a discount for a damn "smart" thermostat, yeah right
forest edge
people in NY still use broilers for christ sakes with window ac units lol
glacial knot
And then power company gives a discount for a damn "smart" thermostat, yeah righ...
.s/smart/spy/
tidal bronze
That won't go away but most new construction is split now
tidal bronze
wake up in a dead sweat cause she's fucking cold working in her office in the ea...
Add sensors and use generic
forest edge
the remote takes control regardless if she uses it
and have sensors, already said that
tidal bronze
Well is it averaging or follow me?
forest edge
the remote thing we have reads the temp/humidity from the handheld unit itself and then makes the hvac cool/heat that room it's in when you use it lol
like an override
but only when she actually activates it
tidal bronze
Ahhh not whole house averaging.
forest edge
it bypasses all that
I don't have dampers etc
all my sensors do is average the temp for the whole house rather than just read from one unit (when not using the remote to override that is)
which is dumb as i come to find out
tidal bronze
Is your ducting balanced ?
forest edge
without zone control the temp are always going to settle high vs low, but for a breif amount of time it "feels" like it works but that's an illusion
we don't close our doors
so that is worth mentioning
tidal bronze
Even with open doors is duct sizes from plenum sized per room ?
forest edge
if I was in a ranch style house i wouldn't have these issues but having multiple stories suck lol
oh i dunno, this shit was put in in the early 70's lol
tidal bronze
Oh boy.
forest edge
all square ducting with round branches
tidal bronze
Balance boxes too then ?
forest edge
no, my house is 4 stories but the duct system is split in two
one side has less ducting gets less flow
er gets more flow
tidal bronze
4 stories single unit ?
forest edge
and the other with more ducting gets less
yea single unit
it works fine, it's not overworked or anything
just no zone control
tidal bronze
Oh that's an uphill battle to balance
forest edge
no ability to add zone control either without ripping our cieling drywall lol
tidal bronze
Well if you don't have balance boxes in ceilings you can still zone control
forest edge
like i said, if this was a ranch style it wouldn't be an issue at all
infact with a ranch style house don't think you need multiple sensors lol
tidal bronze
Depends on sun exposure and if you want perfect comfort where ever you go.
forest edge
if one half of your house baked while the other was shaded all the time you got bigger issues
my neighbor has a firplace that she added to the house when it was built
and she has vents in the floor that lead from the downstairs to upstairs just so heat could rise lol
f that, i wouldn't want to wake up, look down to seeing someone stare at my balls looking up
tidal bronze
1 fireplace to heat entire house ?
tidal bronze
I love fireplaces
forest edge
gas firplaces sure but wood burning ones suck
tidal bronze
All mine are gas.
forest edge
anything built from the mid 80's onward is likely gas. everything before that is likely wood burning
gas was a huge thing back in the 80's. gas company actually gave away and installed for free outdoor grills that ran off the NG around here
this house still had a working one till i removed it when i renovated over 10 years ago
and the external lights were gas lights too
tidal bronze
NG is my favorite fuel
forest edge
crazy stuff
yard lights or whatever they called those damn worthless lights in your front yard lol
all it did was attract bugs, such a dumb idea
tidal bronze
Bugs? What's that ?
forest edge
build a huge wall up and down the coast line at least 200ft high and you'll find out
tidal bronze
๐คฃ
forest edge
I think the planet is trying to kill us
had the longest stretch of super cold weather in my lifetime, now we're about to go through the longest stretch of super heat. covid has mutated to the point that it's back to putting vaccinated people in the hospital
i blame euro's.. you bastards angered the Gods
worldly sierra
had the longest stretch of super cold weather in my lifetime, now we're about to...
got some sources on that?
deft pewter
Don't you read the news?
forest edge
lol
worldly sierra
not ever source on the plant, no
forest edge
this is kind of neat https://youtu.be/6RiYXI1Tfu4
think he was referring it to being euro's fault
deft pewter
Don't need to read every source to notice that there's some fucked up weather patterns now.
They're even worried the Gulf Stream could be halted.
worldly sierra
I'm specically asking about this claim:
covid has mutated to the point that it's back to putting vaccinated people in the hospital
I'm up to speed on the latest climate ๐ฉ
deft pewter
Breakthrough infections do seem to be on the rise with delta.
worldly sierra
Given that the vaccine is not 100% effective, that is to be expected. Still says nothing about hospitalisation. There is only something like 40% reduction in cases, but 95% reduction in serious / death.
forest edge
it's all over the news here
deft pewter
I don't think we were seeing as many before delta.
forest edge
it's enough hospitals can manage thankfully but it is on the rise
worldly sierra
it's all over the news here
where, and again source.
forest edge
got access to fox4? lmao kctv5? any american news? youtube?
worldly sierra
deft pewter
Fox? What about a real station? ๐
forest edge
i said kctv that isn't fox
worldly sierra
The guardian says on the 3rd of august:
The CDC said 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case that resulted in hospitalization or death
forest edge
yea that's wrong
worldly sierra
the CDC is wrong?
forest edge
my girl works HR and knows people who been hospitalized that were vacinated
so even if the news was bs, can't dismiss actually knowing someone lol
tall anchor
remember that literally millions of people have gotten the vacine now, that means that 0.01% is still a lot of people
forest edge
yea 32000 or so
tall anchor
anyways, I just discovered the discord/slack client ripcord, it's working really nice on my low-performance cheap laptop, uses less resources than the web client
forest edge
the CDC is wrong?
this surprises you? really?
worldly sierra
I'm sorry but that is not even something to discuss. you know someone who thinks they know something. Was your GF pressent when they got vaccinated? For example anti-vaxxers my say they have been vaccinated when they have not. Were they actually sick or an excuse to get off work etc. There is no basis in what you are saying.
I'll take the CDC over your mrs working in hr every day of the week
clever mortar
I will say this is at risk of straying into please don't territory (aka read the topic)
forest edge
since when is covid delicate territory?
tall anchor
wait I deleted my own message?
clever mortar
The back and fore here is showing signs of getting personal/political
forest edge
well can't help if someone is taking fact personal
tall anchor
wait I deleted my last message?
forest edge
no idea, all i hear is crickets now
tall anchor
I had to google what that meant lol :D
late gate
A job with fiddling with linux full home office for about 112k usd/yr sounds like a good deal?
clever mortar
Maybe, or maybe hell
deft pewter
$112/year equivalent in your own currency would be great. That much for a tech role in the States would be a bit low.
brisk glen
And before on call 24/7 at home
inner vault
I mean it depends where in the States
$112k bay area is basically poverty wages, $112k in rural TN you could be living in a 6br house with 3 cars and still have leftovers for two vacations a year
clever mortar
Well, it pulls whatever things expose to it... the #ios_and_mac-archived app is written for it ๐
And now you know what pretty much any app on your phone can read
clever mortar
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There's a few dozen things called Home - clarifying it as the iOS Home app would have been handy
And many other apps called Home or Home something or ...
opaque girder
glacial knot
I've never seen that app ๐
opaque girder
I'm just saying several apps call themselves HOME
They should really show it as Google Home
To some perhaps. Not to me that I know nothing about iOS ๐
clever mortar
Yea, iOS in the home app doesnโt support buttons
Didn't say it was Apples ๐
opaque girder
that IS stupid
clever mortar
Easy answer, ditch it ๐
clever mortar
Oddly my entire HA works just fine offline... but that's straying into not in this channel territory
Same with Zigbee, Z-Wave, and other protocols - it's not exactly magic
Well, they are WiFi
low harness
Yep. It's one of the main focus areas of all Home Assistant work https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2016/01/19/perfect-home-automation/#your-system-should-run-at-home-not-in-the-cloud
clever mortar
And many others have given that 100% offline solution from day 1
low harness
Speaking of which. Make sure to enable analytics: it lets us know how many are using certain integrations and gives leverage to convince manufacturers that local control is the way to go.
glacial knot
needs to update and actually do that
low harness
Hey. Time to back off mono.
clever mortar
Please go and re-read the #rules and code of conduct
Consider that a formal warning
low harness
I've talked to him too. Let's just leave it there.
really
And he stopped. Walk away
clever mortar
low harness
Yeah. It probably helped make the official tuya integration happen.
And that's a pretty big deal.
opaque girder
who's next? ๐
lucid bison
my sd card came ๐
opaque girder
what would you need a 500GB SD card for?
low harness
files you never want to see again?
clever mortar
To allow you to lose more data when it fails .... 
lucid bison
Fun fact: Tinkerer saw The Empire Strikes Back for his 40th birthday.
is this true? or was i being pranked lmao
lucid bison
what would you need a 500GB SD card for?
tbh, idk, i bought it cause it was cheap
glacial knot
what would you need a 500GB SD card for?
My Nintendo Switch game collection. Other than that? Nothing
lucid bison
or my homework folder
silence
has anyone used balena sound here?
lol
tvOS?
ahh
clever mortar
Yes ๐
lucid bison
i dont have any apple devices other than an old emac
clever mortar
Some do, but most posters in #integrations-archived are looking for help with a broken install
lucid bison
lol