That's what you get for being Norwegian
#the-water-cooler
clear ferry
Pssh, we have had a few outbrakes lately
but nothing too serious
oslo as usual
still only 600 dead 
installed one of my spare laptops for my office for now
beats the chromebook by far
chromebook is 2g\2c@1.1ghz + emmc storage, this one is 4g\4c@1.7ghz+ssd
still only one monitor though 
I could spin up my rpizero on one screen, chromebook on one screen and this one on one screen and do mouse and keyboard sharing though 🤔
wooden egret
despite its horrible marketing by our insane government that made it political it's actually a pretty good vaccine with high effectiveness according to a peer reviewed study, similar to pfizer and moderna
hushed basalt
tawny orchid
good article, food for thought
clear ferry
what a horrible key combination vscode has for pulling up the command pallette tbh
quite reminicent of anything in macos
CMD + SHIFT + DEL + 4 + LEFT MOUSEBUTTON + UNPLUG SPEAKER
wet pilot
lol that reminds me of the "screenshot select area to clipboard" sequence
cmd+ctrl+shift+4
clear ferry
wtf
wet pilot
leave off the shift and it saves a file to your desktop
clear ferry
the Ctrl + Shift + P by default is horrible tbh
I never use right ctrl or shift anyway
so then it becomes even worse
wet pilot
i always use win+shift+s on windows
clear ferry
that is almost usable
wet pilot
but yeah the pallet is a bit annoying
wet pilot
i use cmd+shift+a for pycharm
pure vine
Oh, i just remembered something, not really support, but just a derp moment:
One day all of the smart speakers couldnt control home assistant, thinking it was offline, but i could still access home assistant.
Turns out that i had broken DHCP on the server that was running home assistant so it didnt have a IPv4 address to access nabucasa, but home assistant was still being served through v6, so i didnt realise that it was broken.
wet pilot
lol
clear ferry
interesting corner case
but since I don't use ipv6 internally yet and I don't use nabucasa, I will never notice it 😄
pure vine
It actually made it pretty easy to debug, mainly as the device was incharge of its own address assignment, so while DCHP was refusing to give a v4, SLAAC just allowed the device to grab a address without having to communicate with annother server that might not give it to it
clear ferry
yup, IPv6 can be handy, I've played with it for 21 years, but it is still.. obscure and seldom I actually see it
pure vine
I'm spotting it more now i have a IPv6 WAN from my ISP
Mainly as i wasnt looking before
Games need to start using it, I've seen a lot of people getting kicked out of games because someone behind the same CG-NAT has been banned from the game, kicking a bunch of peopel off
clear ferry
I touch.. a couple of hundred datacenters every year, and only universities even bother dabbling with ipv6
pure vine
big consumer ISPs are starting to deploy it here in the UK, mainly Sky and BT, IIRC its because they are burning through their address space, or small new(ish, some are old, but grew quickly recently) ones(Hyperoptic), because they cant get any.
its weird, its like a candle being burnt from 2 ends. Big ISP's need it because they are running out, old small ISPs dont need it yet because they got addresses in the past and dont have the large customer base to need it, and new small ISP's couldnt get many v4 address spaces so are deploying it sooner
Google having it at ~35% deployed globally* isnt exactly obscure globally
*They are not in china, so its a bit lower that reality given china has internal goverment policy to have IPv6
last cedar
@clear ferry 🦝 ❤️
gusty wraith
me numpty sent empty can messages to the heating.... no wonder it didn't follow my orders
noble pivot
You ask for nothing it did nothing, seems like it followed exactly 🙂
gusty wraith
gusty wraith
You ask for nothing it did nothing, seems like it followed exactly 🙂
exactly: expected behavior so to speak 😄
funny thing though it doesn't care about data....if you just send empty messages it won't complain but as soon as you send nothing it will throw "A8" which means: can bus error....
noble pivot
Nice Dashboard, lots of details, make me want to instrument mine in more detail. Seems like quite a lot of temp variation though.
Maybee I am misreading it.
gusty wraith
yeah it bounces between min/max to achieve an average target feed temperature
otherwise it would burn the whole day trying to hold the feed temperature
noble pivot
Guess green is water temp then ?
gusty wraith
exactly....
it could do DHW as well and this is why it bounces
it allows DHW to heat up if needed between the feed heatups
noble pivot
Right, A while since I had a wet system 🙂
gusty wraith
but there's no DHW connected so it just does what it does ...
now the interesting part comes into play: connecting indoor and outdoor temperatures together with forecasts to steer the feed temp 🙂
noble pivot
Just started with a new company today. New laptop turned up by courier as expected but I just got this unexpected delivery as a welcome gift. That never happened with a new job before !!
clever mortar
That's more than a little awesome
subtle pasture
That feel when you help a friend move their boot drive from SATA HDD to NVMe SSD...
Had to convert the drive from MBR to GPT, and then manually replace the original System/Boot partition with the equivalent UEFI partitions... but managed to do it all non-destructively.
"So, if that all worked, when I reboot, it should start from NVMe"
reboots, almost immediately hits the desktop
"...Good luck getting into safe mode now. Damn..."
storm canyon
Searched around a bit but can't find how to attach an image to a post. I took a screenshot of something and it resides on my PC can it be attached to a post?
noble pivot
Click the "+"
subtle pasture
He had the best reaction, though:
"You mean it's not going to make all those whirring and clunking noises anymore?"
storm canyon
Click the "+"
Brilliant
So if a channel does not offer a plus sign is there an alternate way? I am in the #zigbee-archived channel
subtle pasture
Upload the image to imgur and post a link
noble pivot
Ha, never noticed some channels dont have that.
clever mortar
Too many idiots who'd post code as an image 😉
storm canyon
Thanks all, just created account and will work through that
static schooner
<misses the bot>
clever mortar
It'll return, eventually, hopefully
static schooner
I think not having it adds back a personal touch that’s been missing, but it makes replying on mobile so much easier
lapis cipher
I concur with RobC, its been quiet while the spambot has been on vacation 🙂
clear ferry
dusky plank
alibaba fast AF, didn't even take a day at customs
opaque girder
what did you get?
dusky plank
smol box for opnsense 🙂
opaque girder
I'm waiting on some of mine since November 💔
bitter zinc
Is this a stupid product?
I’m thinking of getting one because they look cool but other than that I have no idea what I would use one for lol
opaque girder
I can think of one person in particular
Oh sorry we are talking about things
Eh still applies
leaden adder
The cube is awesome! I've got one as a remote for my nanoleafs and one for my desk, controling spotify, my desk lamp etc
bitter zinc
Lol I have a useless box too
opaque girder
I have one. Just because 😂 Not found a use for it yet
bitter zinc
They look cool at least
Can they connect to HA over zigbee tho or does that make it less functional
Without a hub
last cedar
That looks like something a raccon would do
static schooner
dinner
clear ferry
subtle pasture
Problem? Lol
subtle pasture
...this is literally designed to be a toy, so calling it a toy isn't an insult...
And it's a full 6-core Ryzen CPU + 16GB of RAM + Radeon graphics + NVMe drive in a handheld... which is one hell of a thing
leaden adder
how many entities do you guys have? I think I should clean up
clear ferry
Ha says 873
leaden adder
Are you counting states or is there a fancy display somewhere?
dusky plank
Ha says 743
clear ferry
I'm checking the entity registry
static schooner
you can do it with a template
clear ferry
Just click "select all" and it gives you a number
static schooner
ah.. or {{ states|count }}
static schooner
know thyself, I always say
clear ferry
leaden adder
{{ states|count }} displays a lot more than "select all" on the integrations page
dusky plank
true
leaden adder
{{ states|count }}: 471- "select all" on the integrations page: 405
- Rows in the states table: 3423
But all right, if you all have twice as many I'll keep adding every unnecessary SNMP sensor I'll never need 😄
dusky plank
have I told you how much I hate snmp?
static schooner
The only issue with having too many entities is that it can make it more difficult to find the one you care about
leaden adder
have I told you how much I hate snmp?
Why? 😦 I get pretty neat stats from my printer, never used that for anything else
leaden adder
The only issue with having too many entities is that it can make it more difficu...
haha I already feel that way 🥲
dusky plank
ah, you only scratch the surface of OID land, that is fine
lapis cipher
huoh, yet another outage
cedar chasm
Texas, or something online?
leaden adder
It took my hours to understand the groups and schmemes and base oids... I seem to forgot how I got "1.3.6.1.2.1.43.10.2.1.4.1.1" for pages lol
lapis cipher
my shitty LTE internet shit crap, i am fed up
cedar chasm
Hypetrain would have us believe that 5G will lead to salvation.
lapis cipher
i'm on a cellmapper channel, those guys are crazy, the sites are like pokemons, they might drive there during the night to take download speed graphs..
leaden adder
Texas, or something online?
Do you have a hybrid router? Or is your mobile network gone?
sorry @cedar chasm that was not for you 😅
lapis cipher
solely on mobile network, no options (counting out all satellite stuff..)
That i got Jan 18th, this Jan 10th
so i'm trying to squeeze some 4G for the inttternets here
cedar chasm
Would be a lot of fun to run a proper failover setup with mobile network as the backup but I can't really justify it with the lack of importance of anything happening at my place
leaden adder
I always thought UTMS was 3G? Like LTE and 4G
Or are you just referring to the poor reception?
lapis cipher
Yeah, its to show how bad it is here, our phones drop to 3G at worst, especially inside
i long forgot the whole UMTS until it read on my screen..
dusky plank
4G/LTE is capable of much faster speeds than carriers give out, 5g is good and all but LTE is not maxed out by far. so same story happens with 5g - artificially kept bandwidth low
leaden adder
Yeah, its to show how bad it is here, our phones drop to 3G at worst, especially...
Where do you live, if I may ask? In Germany, the 3G networks will be switched off at the end of 2021... There is supposed to be sufficient 4G coverage everywhere
cedar chasm
So the customer experience drops off as carriers lose interest in expanding the networks
ain't it always the way
lapis cipher
Yeah LTE can provide somewhat excellent speeds, i have a bit of poor luck that the main operator has only one band available and its all saturated, second one has two bands and the speeds are crap also even with carrier aggregation. There is a third one with four bands and good speeds but not sure how reliable they are atmo, testing as soon as i got another device set up
lapis cipher
Where do you live, if I may ask? In Germany, the 3G networks will be switched of...
It happens all around, here in Finland we're running it down as well by the end of 2023. Anyways, our village is small despite its 25km from the capital, we're not an interesting nor profitable enough to justify much improvements
and i didn't see 5G antennas on the mast last time i looked.. But i'd be good even with reliable and slower
leaden adder
Really? I was in Finland a few years ago, I got 4G on the middle of a frozen lake... I was amazed by the coverage
But I guess there are still some white spots left :/
clear ferry
Norway has 4g coverage in 96% of the country or something, including 15km out to sea
lapis cipher
Yeah, its pretty good all around, we're nicely in that spot of poor coverage and everybody is nowadays streaming and whatnot
99% of households are covered here with 4G
clear ferry
I'm guessing if you count households we are probably 99. Something
lapis cipher
i didn't find any numbers stating the covered land, i bet you're the same yeah
leaden adder
In Germany, we recently had a campaign by a large provider where villages with no to poor reception could register and be switched directly from 2G to 5G with a lot of media coverage... Suggest this to your provider 😄
dusky plank
coverage in ger is still abysmal... I am blessed by mountains and good coverage 🗻
leaden adder
In fact, the two largest competitors in Germany are joining forces for this action
lapis cipher
that's really nice
on business i work on its rather common to work with competitors and it provides better end results for customers of both and neither really is losing anything, quite the opposite
clear ferry
Don't tell that to the Americans
leaden adder
You'd think so, but in Germany, the big providers are really competing for the title of who has "the best network". This cooperation with the white spots in 2020 is afaik unique and probably one of the many positive effects of Covid-19.
lapis cipher
seeing our operators, yeah i didn't think that would be much more than a PR trick 😄 Here they are all trying to steal others customers as fast as they can but that is also benefit for us since prices are kept low and one can change operator just with a click of a button and nothing changes except who sends the bill
dusky plank
I laughed so hard @ people with "mobile internet boxes" while lockdowns crippled their internet because phone's still get better priority anyway... those things never leave the house in 99% so why not get a proper line 😄
lapis cipher
its funny only as long as you find yourself having that as the only option 😄 I admit i'd probably be very much laughing as well
leaden adder
I laughed so hard @ people with "mobile internet boxes" while lockdowns crippled...
In Germany, it is not uncommon that the stationary line at your house is so bad that you can only get a reasonable speed with a hybrid router.
lapis cipher
its a shame i don't have metrics from the pre-corona time to see the change
clear ferry
Y'all and your inferior interwebs
Here I was at the 69th parallel North, in 2004 with FTTH and 10/10 Mbit
lapis cipher
In Lapland they have fiber like 20-40 km from the nearest city, in the middle of absolutely nowhere.. go figure..
leaden adder
FTTH is also available in Germany, if you build a house for just a low six-figure amount, I've been told...
clear ferry
Got it installed here for $170 in 2014
lapis cipher
there's a bloody hetzner datacenter near us but all these tiny kilometers make the difference
clear ferry
Didn't even have to dig the trench myself
leaden adder
I knew it
leaden adder
there's a bloody hetzner datacenter near us but all these tiny kilometers make t...
get some shovels and some friends and let's go 😄
I have gigabit over the COAX fibre.... But that is really a rarity
Does COAX exist outside Germany at all? Since we still have copper in the ground everywhere, the telephone network is completely overloaded in most places.
dusky plank
they do FTTB here and use existing coax lines for the last 100m
i have ftth though, wouldn't accept coax anymore mmmhmmmmmmm
clear ferry
We stopped accepting orders for landlines in the late 00s
And TV has been mostly ip based for the last 10-12 years
leaden adder
COAX is really the only way to get anything in the direction of gigabit in private... The normal DSL providers manage, if at all, something in the direction of 400 Mbps with super vectoring and whatnot.
clear ferry
I haven't seen anyone with DSL in over 5 years
leaden adder
lol, I always get funny looks when I tell people that I don't have my TV connected to the normal terrestrial TV.
I haven't seen anyone with FTTH in my life
lapis cipher
they are not sold here anymore but some hold on to those still as its more reliable even thought slow. i was stupid to let it go but it didn't work when i tested (could have been my device but didn't really care and it costs money still)
dusky plank
It's right here, come visit Tirol
leaden adder
Well, let's just say I haven't been to anyone who has.
clear ferry
We cancelled our TV subscription last year, didn't really use it much, just use an apple TV and three apps
dusky plank
are you near nurenberg or falkenstein?
leaden adder
Nope, above Cologne 🙂
lapis cipher
wife likes to watch news from the terrestrial and some random stuff that happens to air, mostly over ip (when the fucker works, its very nice to get that spinning ring or hourglass in the middle of the movie...)
leaden adder
How about Starlink? 😛
winter wren
https://nomadnotmad.com/here-are-the-countries-with-the-fastest-internet-speed-in-europe-and-slowest-internet-too/ 11 for norway..bad bad bad @clear ferry
lapis cipher
wish i lived in turkey, they've got 22 megs!!
dusky plank
yeah we also put billions into infra for fiber but the money just vanishes into manager pockets and mexican cartels, so we land on 20th place 😄 I still have delicious 500/50 fiber for 40€/month
romania is first but nobody can afford it in first place 😄
clear ferry
Average internet speed in Norway was 87mbit in 2019 atleast
winter wren
afford what?
leaden adder
I highly doubt "15. Germany: 100.11 Mbps"... most of my friends are at half of that speed
lost yarrow
Switzerland 😄
leaden adder
wife likes to watch news from the terrestrial and some random stuff that happens...
This was a joke about Starlink btw. They are starting in Germany this year and I know already one person that ordered
not sure about Finland though
winter wren
atx...seems you get revenged in mobile area
lost yarrow
i have reached peak laziness, i took a nodemcu with ESPHome and conected that to my PC, and now my pc is starting as soon as i walk into the door. xD
leaden adder
I'm not sure I want my PC to stare at me when I walk by
lost yarrow
oops xD starting*
winter wren
@lost yarrow how u achieved turning on/off?
dusky plank
WOL to wake and ssh to hibernate
lost yarrow
that would work too.
winter wren
i have wol for wired pc...but want to wakeup another wifi laptop
dusky plank
it is possible, highly dependant on wifi nic integration though
lapis cipher
This was a joke about Starlink btw. They are starting in Germany this year and I...
heh, got it, no worries 😄 Its an interesting one thought, discussed it elsewhere, should work nicely on the snow, too, as it gets rather hot
winter wren
need to find out what can do my network card
dusky plank
it's only possible in standby / S3 or whatever of course, else the nic has no power
leaden adder
heh, got it, no worries 😄 Its an interesting one thought, discussed it elsewher...
haha yeah if there's one thing you don't have to worry about in Finland it's cooling 😄
winter wren
@dusky plank sleep always...my wife doesn't close windows, only lid
lapis cipher
hmm been a while but wol and pxe is/was a nice combo for various things, diskless "servers" (or nodes maybe more appropriate term) and what not
lost yarrow
hmm been a while but wol and pxe is/was a nice combo for various things, diskles...
Clusters!
dusky plank
lol, package went from china to cologne, then to vienna, clears austrian customs, goes back to nuremberg and then back to austria
lost yarrow
"Emission Controll"
I love the fact that you can do everything with home assistant. Even build a self destruct for your home.
C4 NOT INCLUDED
lapis cipher
One company just advertised they are starting to build fiber to our municipal, 60 months, 27 eur/month + isp for example 100M 38 eur/month.. plus 490 eur installation fee. At least its under 50000+ eur but not available to our area anyways
hushed basalt
Have been watching that Only Human show about hoarding on YouTube
Jeez it's frustrating
30 year old piece of moldy rotten plywood
No can't throw that away, that's perfectly good for making shelves
It's because my house is too small, that's why my collection of 40000 doll heads is filling up 6 cubic rooms.
subtle pasture
When you've been on the internet for over 20 years...
tidal bronze
@subtle pasture thoughts on doge?
ancient anchor
Anyone have a recommended supplier for WS2815 strips?
@ me if responding please ❤️
static schooner
#hardware-archived @ancient anchor
last dirge
@tidal bronze did you get out before it dumped again?
tidal bronze
Few times over. 😆
last dirge
attaboy
tidal bronze
Lost track last few days. Trying to catch up.
midnight adder
clear ferry
https://open.spotify.com/track/5nDeyvN0Bywz7GRLDK194X?si=UJo3JSOMT-uKJhnQ4YAsqg&utm_source=copy-link
hearty depot
time for coffe
lapis cipher
atx's points just took a major step up with the above link 🤘
lapis cipher
Oh my, noticed i got support responding me with an information i didn't request. Reading and understanding are separate skills it seems, however i'm mildly pleased they are seeing the effort of providing me rather detailed and to the command instructions and actually trying to understand an issue that might arise (not the one i reported, almost dead device).
Nice sunny day calls for some roof activity, better get that thing down for easier debugging and take another up
hushed basalt
Bob Venero, CEO of Holbrook, N.Y.-based solution provider Future Tech Enterprise, No. 96 on the 2020 CRN Solution Provider 500, called AWS’ refusal to directly address how its infrastructure was used in the SolarWinds attack a “slap in the face” to the company’s partners and customers.
“With all of the security challenges we face as an industry now is the time -more than ever - for AWS to show up and speak about how they can prevent this from ever happening again on their watch,” said Venero.
It's like saying Ford should have to answer to police when someone uses their car in a bank robbery
lapis cipher
not sure about Finland though
Next year, i'm actually on the queue but need to wait for them to fire up some more birds to the space to get coverage.
pure vine
yup, IPv6 can be handy, I've played with it for 21 years, but it is still.. obsc...
Sorry for bringing this back up, its annoying me in the back of my head, this statement just seems different to the reality measurements are seeing. Within your area maybe. A lot of countries(US, India, Belgium, Ect) have close to 50% deployment, the UK floats arround 36%. Scandinavian has some of the lowest deployment in Europe(apart from the icemans home Finland) according to APNIC and Google.
Having a Global average of ~32% deployment doesnt exactly feel obscure to me
clear ferry
I can only speak for the countries I work in, which would be Norway, Sweden and Denmark mostly, but I work with us customers and EU customers, and I can count on a single hand the customers who use IPv6 the last 15 years
That home users have it available, and that isps offer it is something else
And that web exposed sites offer it is also outside of my day to day area
clever mortar
I technically have IPv6, though it stopped working a few months back and I haven't chased it up since everything works still
clear ferry
Deployment != Actual use
subtle pasture
I'm running IPv6 here, as well. Comcast currently assigns me a /60, which I have split out into a few /64's
Guest wifi has its own /64. lol
pure vine
Deployment != Actual use
googles numbers are based on site visits, that is pretty much active use from consumers
pure vine
As it should be the users shouldnt be aware that anything has changed, however consumers having it(whether they know it or not), gives reasons for content producers to deploy it, especilly in some cases where IPv4 has a latency hit for many reasons.
most of my browsing is over IPv6 now, mainly because of CDN's
pure vine
I technically have IPv6, though it stopped working a few months back and I haven...
Zen still?
pure vine
I wish they would just have it on by default, BT and Sky have had it done for ages now
subtle pasture
Honestly, the biggest issue I've had with IPv6 is the fact that Comcast doesn't issue static addresses
So I had to deploy IPv6 with mulitple scopes
clever mortar
I wish they would just have it on by default, BT and Sky have had it done for ag...
It supposedly is, but .... I'm guessing there's a glitch in the matrix
pure vine
I'm getting annother Zen connection to annother site, so i'll test it there. I had to email them, although that may have just given me a static assignment
subtle pasture
All devices get an IPv6 address assigned by Comcast, AND an IPv6 address assigned by my pfSense firewall/router. Problem solved, basically
Now Comcast can change my IPv6 prefix all they like, but Active Directory keeps on trucking because it's using the IPv6 prefix assigned by my router, which will never change
pure vine
Yeah, thats what ive done, although my prefix is static anyway, i had setup a ULA to test before getting a IPv6 connection, its useful for connecting to other devices when everything falls over
subtle pasture
The one "gotcha" is setting up IPv6 port forwarding. If you forward to a Comcast assigned address, it works until the prefix changes. You also can't forward directly to one of the internal-only addresses, because it's not a routable prefix.
The solution there is, unfortunately, IPv6 NAT
NAT the private address to a routable address so your firewall rules don't need to be updated every time Comcast changes the prefix
Now, on the up side, that means you're only NATing a few individual IP addresses, rather than an entire subnet
pure vine
Does pfsense has something like iptables suffix based rules?
subtle pasture
Not directly, no. There's no alias for "current WAN prefix" that you can use in rules
They did add a Python scripting interface that you can use to automatically update an alias based on your current WAN prefix, which can then be used in firewall rules... so there is a solution if you don't want to use IPv6 NAT
I might switch to that myself, since it would simplify things
This setting also seems to help a ton:
Prevents your IPv6 lease from being released, which tends to make it significantly more static
I haven't had my prefix change since enabling the above, but it still could due to an extended outage or some such
Oh hey, this is finally getting some traction. There was a merge request for dynamic prefixes in firewall rules 17 days ago
clever mortar
Only took 4 years...
pure vine
on openwrt they have dynamic prefix forwarding https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/firewall/fw3_configurations/fw3_ipv6_examples#dynamic_prefix_forwarding so iptables only looks at the end
Edit: Ah, it seems like its the same thing as what PF sense has implemented
subtle pasture
Yeah, looks like that's about to get fixed in pfSense as well (without needing to script it)
PR has been merged. Thanks!
Aight, so it's already in CE-Next
low harness
3D printing. Good stuff.
forest edge
wouldn't know wtf to do if our plugs were that big lol
clear ferry
At first I was like... Why does he have speakon cables going into the wall
Then I went like... DEFA
lapis cipher
i went first for xlr but i'm blind, still resulted the same wtf
nice idea, i hate those cables laying around and even more if they don't have cover on
bitter pawn
i hate skim milk
its like its trying to lie to you about being actual milk.
it should be relabled "water with white food coloring"
clear ferry
I miss my Webasto, but I park in the garage now since the wife has an eberspächer
low harness
One Defa and one Calix.
Speakon would be so expensive when you forget it in as you back out.
lapis cipher
heh, yeah i'm sure the bumper and car-side cables will get lose before speakon gives up 😄
clever mortar
I have a friend that'd be perfect for...
clever mortar
Not in this case
A friend of old who describes themselves as a high functioning sociopath 🤣
clear ferry
Stop talking about yourself in the third person
clever mortar
I'm mostly functioning... just not sure what
hushed basalt
Lol
Definitely for atx
I had to explain to someone yesterday why they had to take their food out of the aluminium foil first before they microwaved it
dusky plank
can't see it anymore
hushed basalt
The microwave looked like a rave
dusky plank
image off line
hearty depot
someone was probably pissed and banned it from reddit... i hate this time, everyone is offended by everything
hushed basalt
It's okay we just need to wait for the pendelum to swing and then we'll be at mad max style
A couple of trillionaires hoard the worlds water while we use people like atxbyea as blood banks
hearty depot
aah blast from the past
the first distro I ever used
bourght a CD with a bigass book. Internet existed back then, but was'nt really a thing for me because I got in trouble when using it to much. who else remembers ISDN
clear ferry
I used to have phone bills of $400 per month in the mid 90s
Because I used both lines on ISDN
🤣
Also, opensuse leap 15 is from 2015 isn't it 
hearty depot
just downloaded the netinstaller 🤣 looked legit
Nov 04, 2020 Start of Development phase
15.3
dusky plank
wait there is php running in opnsense?
clear ferry
Yes
subtle pasture
I had to explain to someone yesterday why they had to take their food out of the...
The... the lightshow didn't tip them off??
fiery geyser
static schooner
the arcs are what heat the food
candid crow
Does anyone have suggestions for wake word models? I'm building a personal home device and looking to configure a local/offline custom wake word & speech to intent on it, but I'm struggling to find an easy solution to set those up. I've done a bit of work with Picovoice Porcupine/Rhino but couldn't get through their hello worlds without hitting several bugs along the way. Would appreciate any advice!
hushed basalt
I think I might redo HA from scratch in the new house
forest edge
if you have to start over from scratch you did something horribly wrong
hushed basalt
Eh it's a good refresher
Half my automations would be invalid in the new house
Plus there's like 40 versions of upgraded state spewed in there
tidal onyx
I used to have phone bills of $400 per month in the mid 90s
Just the other day I found my old Blue Box from the 90s together with some other old stuff (Zyxel modem, ...).
Worked like a charm with the Amiga and helped a lot to cut down the bill.
👴
tidal onyx
Yeah, that's how I feel now... 😁
clear ferry
I just mentioned in another discord
You know you are old when you think I've been online since 1993
clever mortar
Kids today 
clear ferry
You are mummy dust
clever mortar
🙇
clear ferry
clever mortar
That said, I've only been online since about '88
tidal onyx
Probably the same time for me...
I started with a 1200 Baud modem, but a friend had a 300 Baud "Dataphon", the thing where you plug the receiver of the phone after manually dialing.
tidal onyx
And all that stuff was illegal in Germany. You were only allowed to connect officially certified hardware for a lot of 💵
clever mortar
UK suffered from that too
But, given how many other less than legal things folks did, what's one more...
tidal onyx
We started on a regular 9600 us robotics I believe
The high-end stuff. Couldn't afford that at the time.
clear ferry
Think we upgraded to 14400 same year come think of it
And 28800 shortly followed
We barely had 56700 before we got ISDN
And ISDN lasted two years or so before we got cable
tidal onyx
What peering mailbox network was used at your place before internet?
For us, I remember Z-Netz (rather German thing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Netz) and Fido.
forest edge
That said, I've only been online since about '88
doing what? there wasn't much of an "online" around that time lol
forest edge
uh huh, those old forum boards or whatever you call it were a complete mess
clever mortar
Lots of chat, games (yes, multi-user games), file sharing, and more
clear ferry
BBS bitches
clever mortar
Don't forget NNTP either
clear ferry
The good stuff
forest edge
wait, maybe I am thinking of pre late 80's
noble pivot
Loads of stuff, just not so much prety graphics.
forest edge
cause there was no opnline multi user games in the period i got on the brain
clever mortar
Multi-user dungeons existed for sure, I played a few
forest edge
unless you were refering to telling someone where to move a chess piece lmao
clear ferry
Lotrd 
clever mortar
MUD dates back to '75
forest edge
wasn't mud like a chat thing? not a game program?
forest edge
yea that was a chat thing lol
forest edge
Back to when <@104768700069990400> was 45?
before you were even sperm
clever mortar
I remember play testing one, and discovering that the HP-UX port ran a lot faster than the mainframe version. It was possible for L1 character on HP-UX to slaughter a L99 character on mainframe because the devs didn't account for clock rates...
Give the dev their due, it was fixed that day 😄
clear ferry
Pa RISC
forest edge
I don't recall playing any game with others till AOL, everything prior to that was all single player shit, from text games to 8 bit
er 16 bit i guess they were
forest edge
your shit was probably whack like that
clear ferry
You mean the greatest computers to come from the US?
forest edge
i'm talking graphics
forest edge
noone cares about architecture aside from graphics when gaming
graphics and a decent sound card that didn't make the game want to cut off your ears
my aunt always had the latest greatest shit to play games on
forest edge
probably the same shit you are just getting in stores now atx
pony express i think it was called
er maybe not cause google isn't turning shit up for that name lol
pony something
was the very first public internet isp around
back when the message boards were a nightmare cause it was a single thing that contained everything. no catagories or anything lol
no email, no private messaging
alpine spear
Anyone currently here know a lot about 3D printers?
crude acorn
atxbyea funny you mentioned lotrd, i threw my 3.5 floppies out about 12 months ago for that. I bought that game and hosted it on my WWIV BBS I ran for many years
dusky plank
Anyone currently here know a lot about 3D printers?
that one norwat propably
short mango
👋
Does anyone know what is the name of the blue plastic adaptor used in this picture to screw cables into the Pin Screw Terminal Block Connector?
I think they are going to be super useful to cleanly wire my shelly 1.
wise needle
@alpine spear Yeah. They are a terrible addition. I got a Prusa MK3S for christmas, and have spent months modding it to the point it doesn't work anymore.
short mango
👋
Does anyone know what is the name of the blue plastic adaptor used in this p...
Sorry, forgot to send the picture:
wise needle
Crimped Bootlace Ferrule ?
short mango
Ah! That's it. Thank you jlooney.
let me know if you have a concrete product that get.
This one seems ok:
https://www.amazon.com/Ferrule-Crimping-Tool-Plier-Set/dp/B07H2K89DV/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=Crimped+Bootlace+Ferrule+for+Pin+Screw+Terminal+Block+Connector&qid=1614775074&sr=8-1
wise needle
They are very standard
dusky plank
opnsense is really decent, I like! thx
I just have to complain about the behaviour of the browser back button, which breaks most of the time 😛
clear ferry
dusky plank
*in the UI
clear ferry
https://open.spotify.com/track/3LqmUE2egq9F4zzh4FoUrD?si=yLaZRJ5HSLOcgf45yZbUaA&utm_source=copy-link
haughty whale
will there be a release party on youtube today? if so, when?
low harness
There was one of those preview thumbnail thingies on youtube yesterday, but I can't find it now.
hearty depot
funny old angry man
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYVU6rModlGxvJbszCclGGw
bitter pawn
i blame @clear ferry for the downfall of humanity
hearty depot
good choice
low harness
Ah, there is it @haughty whale https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sXYdUMn3hE
haughty whale
Thanks!
subtle pasture
36bit still lives today in modern Intel's
Talking about PAE mode?
clear ferry
Yaaaaaaas Queen
subtle pasture
Usually gets used for extended memory addressing by 32bit operating systems
Increases the maximum addressable RAM from 4GB ot 64GB
clear ferry
Yup, I don't think it is used for anything much still, but lives in the architecture still
I just wanted to yank Mr Sonoma who only belives in x² architectures
subtle pasture
Fun fact: Microsoft supported PAE mode very briefly on Windows XP, prior to SP1. It was discovered that a large number of 32bit drivers would crash with a 36bit address space, so SP1 disabled PAE mode, re-instating the 4GB limit.
PAE mode was never re-enabled for desktop SKUs. Even Windows 10 32bit won't let you enable it.
clear ferry
But that pae mode was heavily used on 2003
clever mortar
Shame, I need another way to BSOD my Windows boxes
subtle pasture
Yup, though 2003 had its own separate drivers (and was an entirely different build/branch of Windows from XP 32bit)
subtle pasture
So Microsoft could require Server 2003 drivers support PAE mode
clear ferry
I ran 2003 as my desktop os for years, it was ridiculously stable
And I got 5-10 FPS more than on xp
subtle pasture
e'yup... and modern Windows is still based on 2003
2003's branch was used to build Vista
XP's branch was abandoned
subtle pasture
Most Longhorn builds were based on XP's branch. They reset development somewhere around build 4093 and re-based on Server 2003's branch.
clear ferry
I remember running Windows 98 RC, that was probably the most unstable shit I ever ran
Except for millennium with all patches, that is even worse
subtle pasture
I keep a Longhorn 4074 VM around for shits and giggles
It's unstable as hell, but has the most pre-reset features still in it
silent canyon
Hey guys I have a question about hardwiring a usb camera. Is this the right place?
clever mortar
"hard wiring" a USB camera?
clear ferry
clever mortar
I mean, last I checked, USB devices kinda require a wire 😛
clever mortar
Of course, if you don't ask the question, we'll not know if you need to go elsewhere
clear ferry
subtle pasture
silent canyon
I am trying to install a front porch camera and unfortunately I have no power in the area that I am able to place the camera. I would like to be able to adapt a usb to cable to a AC outlet that is 20 ft from the door. It has to be hard wired otherwise anyone would be able to just unplug the camera at will. I would then hide the cable in metal raceways.
clever mortar
I'm very happy with my £50 Hik
silent canyon
But even POE needs power which is the issue I am trying to solve.
silent canyon
I can not just run the cat6 cable to the outlet, can I?
clever mortar
Well, if you drop a PoE injector there, sure
clever mortar
The point of PoE is that it's power and data
clear ferry
Or any switch, with a Poe injectior
clever mortar
You don't want to run cameras over WiFi if you can run them over cable instead
clear ferry
WiFi cams 🤢
subtle pasture
I can not just run the cat6 cable to the outlet, can I?
How are you planning on getting data through the electrical outlet? Powerline adapter?
subtle pasture
@clever mortar Not really, powerline ethernet adapters are a thing, they're just crappy
clever mortar
<@!332579266623438848> Not really, powerline ethernet adapters are a thing, they...
Oh, I know, I've used them
subtle pasture
Wireless USB is also a thing, and also crappy...
night zodiac
carrier pigeon
clever mortar
More a reference to some people's expectations of how things "work" 😉
clear ferry
RFC 1492?
clever mortar
silent canyon
Ok agree with the reasoning here, but the challenge still remains. If the POE injector is mounted next to the outlet, well what was the point for the camera. To place the POE inject in a spot where it can not be tampered with I need to get power there.
subtle pasture
Honestly, if you have a 120v outlet, and no data... a wifi camera is probably your best bet
silent canyon
So let me change my question
clear ferry
You don't put it next to the camera
clever mortar
You can run a network cable for 100 meters... there's no problem there
clear ferry
subtle pasture
I mean, there is the problem of running ethernet outdoors... need to beware of lightning strikes
silent canyon
How to I get power to an outdoor camera were the outlet is 30 feet away?
subtle pasture
Seen that happen before. Lightning hit a PoE camera and killed tens of thousands of dollars of network equipment
subtle pasture
@silent canyon A 30ft extension cord?
clever mortar
My PoE powered camera is about 50 feet from my PoE switch. No problem there
subtle pasture
Yeah, but it sounds like they don't have ethernet run?
clever mortar
Neither did I until I ran it
clear ferry
Mine must be 25-30 meters atleast
clever mortar
I mean, if you can run a USB cable, you can run a network cable
subtle pasture
It sounds like they literally just have an electrical outlet, and no way of getting data to the camera aside from wifi. lol
clever mortar
Well, it sounds like USB was the chosen solution 😉
subtle pasture
Yeah, still not clear on how THAT would work in this instance. lol
clever mortar
silent canyon
no visible cables inside the house/ not able to open up walls. Network switch is in the center of the house. Extension cord outdoors is not a great idea because anyone could just unplug them.
subtle pasture
Battery-backed camera, then?
There are plenty of cameras that will continue recording while unplugged for an hour or two
silent canyon
Yes Tinkerer you are right, but I was trying to hard wire the USB cable
clear ferry
Typical knobheads, going around unplugging people's cameras
silent canyon
I can not do that with the POE injector
subtle pasture
...what, exactly, does hard-wiring a USB cable resolve here?
clever mortar
You can "hard wire" any cable
clear ferry
Just add epoxy
subtle pasture
I guarantee you can can yank on a USB cable hard enough to rip the solder pads clean off
Or just, you know, use the knife I keep in my purse to slice the cable
clever mortar
Also, many PoE cameras are designed to be installed in "high risk" environments and have fittings to make them hard to steal
clear ferry
Or just tear the wire
subtle pasture
If you're worried, the only real solution is to run the cable inside the wall so that that camera has to be physically removed from the building to access the wiring
silent canyon
Okay some additional information is needed to understand the restrictions. House is 2 stories, exterior wall is cinder block.
pure vine
just pulled the homeassistant source on my faster connection and my gooness is it nice for it to take 10 seconds rather than 30-60
VDSL SUUUCKED
clever mortar
Yes
I remember the "joy" when I moved from Cable to DSL, and got 4 Mb/s download if I was lucky, and usually closer to 2 Mb/s
opaque girder
cries over vdsl modem 🥲
clear ferry
VDSL? What is this? 2012?
static schooner
I've luckily always managed to move to higher speed. can't/won't go back!
dusky plank
server has a page full of mods, who dares to tag?
clear ferry
Mødz
clear ferry
But you come from Elbonia
dusky plank
hey atx do you visualize opnsense metrics? in case, what do you use?
clear ferry
https://github.com/atxbyea/HA-Config/blob/34ac8042d501ada666a1bfccd8db296f3dcf0a24/sensors.yaml#L192
Sent that to influx
hushed basalt
How do you have time to do home stuff
I haven't touched HA or opnsense in like 4 months
dusky plank
I do double nat 🤮 already have up/down in ha (and thus in influx)
clear ferry
Easy, I work from home
hushed basalt
So do I
clear ferry
You work shitty
hushed basalt
But I'm obviously more honest than you norwatians
dusky plank
I am efficient
clear ferry
I can do stuff in ha while waiting for 350 servers to boot
dusky plank
what is this? servers booting on raspberry pi 1?
clear ferry
hushed basalt
hushed basalt
clear ferry
dusky plank
norway is not a member of the EU, nice try though
maybe next year, I will call you back
hushed basalt
Maybe try aws
clear ferry
Doesn't mean I can't get paid Norway money while working in shitty EU
hushed basalt
I hear they have a healthy work environment
dusky plank
lays back
hushed basalt
Will you work on those secure multithreaded hybrid clouds
clear ferry
Yes
hushed basalt
My life right now is dealing with a shitty aws managed product
clear ferry
hushed basalt
We really should abandon it I've already spent like 100 hours on it
hushed basalt
Everything else is fine
hushed basalt
It's just this one shitty product which is just some scripts with a wonky gui
Hot garbage that's what it is
Aws sucks at containers overall though
burnt cave
it's hot garbage and industry standard :^)
hushed basalt
They're king for serverless though
burnt cave
i still can't get employed so I have no pro experience
but my gut tells me that tying your services to a 3rd party that's difficult to swap out is not a great idea
burnt cave
I mean I just use my own tooling that'll run on any service that sells VMs or containers
clear ferry
It's easy to move from cloud to cloud, and from on premise to off premise at will
If you know what you are doing
burnt cave
it allows you to use multiple providers at once too though
so I can run instances on AWS, Gcloud, Azure at the same time and have em play nice
dusky plank
a free account with 8593457 cpu cycles each ofc
burnt cave
🤷 I've only done it for educational purposes
burnt cave
and I wanted to reap the free tiers of each provider at the same time for running compute stuff
nothing like building a computer cluster for $0
clear ferry
Cluster.... Cross vendor....
hushed basalt
Or so cheap it doesn't matter
burnt cave
depends on workload but it works for what I need
clear ferry
hushed basalt
If you're a big company that does or will Aquire other companies
dusky plank
our newsmedia reports on amazon changing some app icon instead of our corrupt politicians,
maybe they change their icons fewer times than our politicians do corrupt things
hushed basalt
Then you can have benefit from being multicloud ready
burnt cave
if only I could get someone to hire me so I can get """professional experience"""
hushed basalt
What role do you want
burnt cave
computers
jk I'm casting a wide net, looking into robotics, healthcare and finance mostly
developer jobs at least to start off
working at a national lab would be pretty ballin
hushed basalt
What sort of developer
hushed basalt
What do job postings for junior developers in your area ask for
Do you go to meetups
hushed basalt
Have you reached out to any companies who don't post jobs
hushed basalt
I'd focus everything on those .net skills
burnt cave
economy is in the shitter in my city
hushed basalt
Don't touch anything to do with ops,
Like vms, it's just a distraction for you right now
burnt cave
we have a lot of healthcare research around here but they don't have entry level positions often
hushed basalt
Don't touch anything that isn't requested in those entry level roles
hushed basalt
And contribute meaningfully to an open source project if you can.
burnt cave
I do
hushed basalt
Ignore fun. Do what they want from you
burnt cave
main problem isn't that I don't know the skills
burnt cave
a couple
burnt cave
good idea
hushed basalt
I didn't get my job from a job posting
burnt cave
the companies that I've interviewed for were mostly concerned that I "wasn't going to like the job"
or something along those lines
technical stuff is ezpz
people stuff is beyond me
being isolated for a whole year definitely doesn't help either
hushed basalt
I got hired more for people skills than my technical skills
burnt cave
I'm good with people, bad at interviews
kindred night
SN10 in 2 mins..
burnt cave
probably need to just suck it up and figure out how to ham my way through interviews
burnt cave
like in the workplace I'm fine and well liked by my coworkers but in interviews I can't fake enthusiasm and optimism
SN10?
low harness
yes
burnt cave
what's that?
low harness
SpaceX latest starship prototype
burnt cave
oh cool
burnt cave
np
low harness
Watch the last 7 minutes
Holy crap! They actually did it this time!
This is Science Fiction stuff!
low harness
It's a huge rocket that they send to 10 km height. And then land back down standing upright.
It's worth the watch
low harness
SN9 blew up in the landing
burnt cave
didn't they land some on barges?
low harness
This is much larger than those. More Apollo size. I heard it's a Mars rocket prototype.
burnt cave
yeah it looks t h i c c
looks like a scaled up version of something you'd buy at a sex shop lol
- fins ofc
low harness
Unless that's your thing.
burnt cave
true, there's some wild people out there
kindred night
Yeah, pity. But perhaps easier to clean up
instant demolition
and 3 engines toast 😉
So probably not intentional 😉
dusky plank
F
kindred night
a replay would be nice
pure vine
2021 and counting
Fibre Broadband deployment has been like IPv6 deployment with how long its taking 😛
hushed basalt
Government said spending 60 billion and 8 years laying fibre was a waste of money
burnt cave
are you referring to the handouts to ISPs?
hushed basalt
So they spent 70 billion and 100 billion in infrastructure rental to install VDSL and hybrid coaxial
pure vine
Their initial plan looked quite good
The hybrid stuff they introduced kind of gave a copout I feel
formal sluice
offtopic grafana question
I have a sensor that updates every 10 seconds with the current power consumption in watts
how do I get grafana to display a daily kwh consumption?
dusky plank
grafana is just display, use other systems to calculate stuff
formal sluice
doesnt grafana have a math function?
formal sluice
I have the data
what I have is
InfuxDB and the entity gets updated every 10 seconds
with the current power consumption in watts
looks like this
right now
but I want it to display kwh
per day
I know that I would need to configure a time interval and then do some calculating
but I do not know how
burnt cave
you would want the integral of the graph
formal sluice
so just for reference - I installed grafana 20mins ago
I have no idea what I am doing xD
hushed basalt
Learn influxql
burnt cave
^
hushed basalt
The grafana gui is more trouble than it's worth for making queries
Just go to manual mode early and it'll pay off quickly
This sort of thing is exactly what query languages are for and is why they've held strong for decades
formal sluice
maybe but I have time constraints right now so I do not have a lot of time to fiddle with stuff
burnt cave
grafana and influx are very fiddly by nature
hushed basalt
Then just copy paste those queries from the link and tweak them
formal sluice
I know I am a bit of a pain in the ass here but where do I put those?
hushed basalt
You change the grafana query to manual
dusky plank
go to #add-ons-archived I'd suggest. many people use grafana there
formal sluice
@hushed basalt ahhh there it is - thanks
dusky plank
subtle pasture
One of those isn't even Linux...
formal sluice
@hushed basalt ok I took the time and I think I got it now
SELECT integral("value",1h) / 1000 FROM "W" WHERE ("entity_id" = 'sonoff_powr2_energy_power') GROUP BY time(24h)
and I did it by myself - I now know what you mean by learn influxql
wet pilot
Lol so many stupid QLs these days
last dirge
JPQL FTW
inner plover
This was fun...
last dirge
it's fine
inner plover
Totally fine
inner plover
Hard to say... I just got it used. Sure looks like it
inner plover
oh, yes lol. Clearly they're skimping, didn't fill up the die 😉
last dirge
looks like it got dropped
inner plover
could be. though the pad closest the damage is partly lifted, and there's a slight bulge on the reverse along the edge that looks like a trace got hot...
maybe got dropped and then powered on
either way, glad it came with a 6 month guarantee 😄
wow, guy already refunded me. that was easy.
clear ferry
That just looks like someone dropped it
clever mortar
The souls of the damned idiots, what else? There's no shortage of those.
winter wren
peace to everybody
winter wren
taco...nonono
clear ferry
Taco is always yes yes
winter wren
cord less...uh..how u did it ?
winter wren
and u run ?
clear ferry
that runs on my debian jumpstation
winter wren
oh...ok...linux...
clear ferry
currently accessing it via ssh from my ubuntu desktop
winter wren
u locked too ?
had a conference...france, spain, portugal...locked
here we are free :))
clear ferry
we are not in lockdown, but I work a lot from home
winter wren
i am home...not working :))))
clear ferry
I should setup internal PKI stuff today...
winter wren
pki..some sort of pokemon?
clear ferry
I used to have PKI internally on everything, but I've been lazy in later yestar
velvet horizonBOT
clear ferry
It helps to refresh on the procedures these days
a lot of stuff will be tightened in the next few years
and all enterprise stuff comes with self signed certificates by default
clever mortar
After yet another round of breaches you mean
clear ferry
clear ferry
interesting that you spell "yupeeee" the same way my daughter yells "jippiiiiii" 🤣
proper gorge
Hey guys where should i ask mqtt related questions?
winter wren
proper gorge
thanks
winter wren
clear ferry
I should buy a second symfonisk for stereo
the audio quality is quite good
but I miss directional audio
lapis cipher
you're not afraid to be banned? 😮
clear ferry
not yet 🤣
I've seen people mention it
but I use the client so seldom still
I just wish discord would make their own CLI client
lapis cipher
Agree, things should be moving towards open instead of closed.. Publish API's, let people get fancy and productive, its not away from in this case Discord
Same as with this off-topic related vendors doing closed cloud shit mostly and then those few brilliant vendors offering well-polished apis
(or is it on-topic.. anways)
magic basin
Totally legitimate question for a robot.
lapis cipher
Hmm i wonder if i should see into changing that console controller icon of mine.. Besides it looks more of a xbox than playstation controller and i'm on the latter..
dusky plank
off to finally replace my old friend apache with swag 🎉
clear ferry
DOIT
I missed apache for a few weeks
but then I realized I was better off
I just deployed zwavetomqttjs
because I have the stick and some plugs 🤷
dusky plank
have to use lxc though
merry marlin
I just deployed zwavetomqttjs
That's a nice catchy name
dusky plank
you need to go to a doctor with all this puking atx
hydration is important, it's serious
oh well maybe its appropriate in this case
lxc is really... lagging a bit
maybe i do debian lxc and docker on that
clear ferry
docker docker docker
lapis cipher
while at the doctor, do talk about that stick and plugs addiction
magic basin
I taught my son to hack his e-learning HTML page.
last cedar
lapis cipher
heck, snow storm, i was just digging shorts out of the closet, we're all gonna die now!
gray niche
Hello, I am building a wall mounted monitor + rpi to display homeassistant. Does anyone have any recommendations for what OS to install on the pi? I need it to bootup and open home assistant in a browser.
tame sand
take a look at #diy-archived you should find some people which can help you more then here
gray niche
alright thanks
dusky plank
it's finished! I 👏 AM 👏 SWAG
low harness
https://tenor.com/view/how-linux-users-install-a-web-browser-linux-linux-users-g...
That's me back in -04 or so. Installing topologi-linux on my familys only computer. Rebooting to XP every 15 minutes to look up the next step of getting PPP dialup modem to work. Things sped up significantly after that.
olive nebula
a question to the python GUI devs 🙂
did you ever checked out dearpygui ? 🙂
lapis cipher
So umm, since so many are going crazy on SWAG, can somebody summarize what's the beef of it or the fancy part? Yes, i am reading the website but i just see its LAMP made differently into docker and i'm like a famous giphy..?
I suppose its the easiness of enabling things by just uncommenting lines or sections?
and not guessing how to configure say HTTPS, its not necessarily straight-forward for everybody
dusky plank
fail2ban is a big + compared to other Lamp stacks,
also it's nginx (used apache up until now)
lapis cipher
Yeah but both are like one command away to install to any linux and IMO its good to understand a bit about the applications one installs to any system to learn how to configure those? Or is this supposed to be more of a wizard-driven easy fire and forget? And what's the PHP for?
lapis cipher
That IS a nice thing indeed yes
dusky plank
it's all 👏 in 👏 one 👏 container
not a "install linux" thing
clear ferry
Containers
dusky plank
opinions about EU going strong?
lapis cipher
i guess its like integrations and add-ons, you click and you get something just about ready to rock
dusky plank
kind of, you can even deploy this in a swarm fashion
sslh and stunnel consumed the biggest part of this transition though 😄
lapis cipher
cool, thanks, might consider if one day need arises, i was even getting paid at one point writing code in php (with the missing M of course, too)
(only reason i found so far for that PHP part still 😄 )
dusky plank
yeah in 1999... when it was full of exploits
lapis cipher
early 2000 with that shit. Then i wrote some java for mobile phones (they were shit too back then)
clear ferry
And wasn't fat
dusky plank
up until 2013, when stefan esser stopped reporting vulnerabilities
now it's just undisclosed exploits
java is still shit
lapis cipher
and yet its the heart of many entttterprise shit still today.. Been forced to look into few cases lately..
btw @clear ferry if you one day feel like discussing about the greenhouse stuff i'd be interested in your findings. I am thinking of revamping my setup.. I've got few ebb&flood hydroponics and few others aside the regular peat boxes. Need to investigate if i could make nutrient mixes automated somehow (more of a problem of "how to measure" i suppose), mix changes over the season, needs to be pumped around and what not
clear ferry
No hydroponics here, I've wanted to try some