#the-water-cooler

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last cedar
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That is already fixed

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;)

night zodiac
last cedar
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But yeah, the latest miljö bil standards make it cheapest to go to work by moose

last cedar
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My moose

odd kindle
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I tend to go by polar bear

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they're much warmer

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Well the chat died 😦

subtle pasture
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Few of us have moose experience. lol

odd kindle
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mooses are interesting animals

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is reading the Code of Conduct to figure out if they did anything wrong

subtle pasture
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I was doing the same. lol

last cedar
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The plural of moose is mice smart

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I don't even have moose stickers on my Volvo

odd kindle
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At least you have a Volvo!

last cedar
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1999 V70

odd kindle
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Them be expensive

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oh 🙂 a classic

last cedar
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Yesh

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The one with the fancy italian throttle body that shits the bed

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It needs rebuilding at some point

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It still runs well, don't use it much. Got it in 2013 with 238k km, it now has about 290k on it

odd kindle
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But I think we must stop talking about cars, that's a highly controversial topic!

last cedar
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So it is lightly used at this point

odd kindle
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Honestly, old volvos tend to be great

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they don't have all the fancy but they're solid cars

last cedar
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It has been pretty good tbh. Need to adjust handbrake on it though before inspection. Quick and easy job though, and also gonna reinstall the towbar electrical outlet, also quick and easy job now that I have done all the preperation

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Will put a new socket on it at some point, not going to be towing with it anyway

odd kindle
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@subtle pasture what's your conclusion from your reading?

last cedar
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Just nice to have it working!

odd kindle
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Honestly, anything needs fixing I will have someone else do it with my car. I have zero knowledge how anything works

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got a new Kia just for that reason, 7 years guarantee!

last cedar
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Rear bumper needs rehanging and drivers electric window needs adjustment, perhaps a new scissor lift. It is a garage job though incase I don't get it working straight away

subtle pasture
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@odd kindle I think we're fine, especially because Being respectful of differing opinions, viewpoints, and experiences is in there 😛

last cedar
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I get that @odd kindle, everyone can't be an expert at everything

odd kindle
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@subtle pasture yeah, read the same and figured the same

subtle pasture
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Heh, I take my car to all of its scheduled service appointments, but I'm comfortable with doing a lot of the work myself. I installed my own supercharger 😄

odd kindle
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lol yeah, I consider myself fairly hand but cars... nope

subtle pasture
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Also upgraded the interior to the "premium" version (red stitched black leather panels, instead of faux carbon fiber panels)

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It's swanky 👌

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Need to defog the headlights at some point. Haven't really been driving enough (thanks pandemic) to make it a priority, though

odd kindle
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I don’t even change the tires in my own

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Worth every sek to have someone do it and keep the other tires until it’s time to change back

woeful rock
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Hi everyone!

odd kindle
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while talking about offenice topics. @last cedar do you follow swedish news? Halmstad wanting to ban masks in schools

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@woeful rock good morning

last cedar
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IMO The whole Swedish approach has been wrong from the start. Schools should have all moved to remote learning a long time ago, and we should have far tighter RULES, not recommendations on stuff. Banning masks is just like organising a big cuddle party.

I nearly always wear a mask when I work, only time I don't is where I need to use safety glasses, and I am always the only person who has a mask on when I do. I work a lot in schools, for all ages. The whole thing is a joke. It isn't hard to see why so many have died here.

They added recommendations that people should have masks on busses on 7th Jan, not been a recommendation before, but no one is enforcing it.

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And of course, no one is wearing a mask

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I would like to say we are worse than the USA at this point, but we have less dense population, so we would probably be in a similar situation if we had a higher population

clear ferry
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Anything north of Stockholm

odd kindle
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The problem is that we've not been able to add rules, could only add recommendations. The law wouldn't allow for rules @last cedar

clear ferry
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We haven't had rules either, just recommendations

odd kindle
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The debate around sweden is rather interesting, almost all swedes I know that I've discussed with is very pro the swedish line and defend it strongly. Almost everyone outside call it horrible. There's sadly a lot of misinformation in both camps :/

woeful rock
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I've installed hepa-filter on my snorkel. Also using tinfoil hat whenever i go outside. But would never go to Halmstad, to close to Skåne.

odd kindle
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@clear ferry one of the major differences between norway and sweden is how the healthcare / elder-care is organized

clear ferry
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You mean how most nurses in both are Swedish ?

odd kindle
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gov controlled vs regionally controlled

last cedar
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wutanc, that is the problem. Not being able to make laws when such a problem arises is also utterly stupid.

odd kindle
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oh yeah, it's stupid. It took them nearly 1 year to introduce law changes.

last cedar
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People value their freedom so much here that they are prepared to kill everyone else to keep doing what they do, thinking about the people skiing etc

odd kindle
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The main arguments against it is that it makes it easier for facist changes to also be introduced later on... but yeah

last cedar
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There are similar arguments to other very sensitive subjects, the rule makers are so scared of making too much of a change that could potentially be abused in 358 years

woeful rock
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That's good

last cedar
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I really like Sweden as a place, but the people running it are never going to be seen as smart, in my eyes

odd kindle
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yes, I don't agree. Just saying that it's the main reason I've heard. I understand the reason. But it's clear we should have done something else much much ealier

hushed basalt
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Is anyone elses google maps navigation not clearing the prompts automatically anymore

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Like you know when it goes "there's a mobile speed camera up ahead" and it disappears eventually

woeful rock
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Twats not listening to strong recommendations is the main problem. Why does it always have to be laws for this and that. Stupid people

hushed basalt
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Now mine just stay on perpetually

last cedar
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I use Waze only, can't help badtelcotech, sorry!

hushed basalt
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It's super annoying since it's like $1000 to touch your phone while driving here if you get spotted

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I think I just need to find an android auto head unit

forest edge
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The Argon One and DeskPi Pro are the two of the better. The Argon does M2 I believe and the DeskPi does sata

hushed basalt
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Need a high bright headunit in Perth though

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600 nits doesn't cut it by a long shot

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Ideally I'd want 1500 nits

last cedar
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I got a Sony unit, 2 din, that didn't have android auto. Not really that great tbh.

forest edge
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you got dud tunes

last cedar
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Should have got the pioneer one, I wanted to start with

forest edge
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been so long since I looked at headunits I don't even know what is out there and what they run for these days. seen a couple of the android/touch screen tablet looking replacement for the oem crap on youtube but that is about it

subtle pasture
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@forest edge I was looking at the DeskPi, but it doesn't look like it's being made anymore?

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Had trouble finding it in-stock anywhere

forest edge
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oh it's prorder

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wtf

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thing has been out awhile, not sure why it still shows as preorder

hushed basalt
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My requirements are: 2 din, interface with steering wheel controls and good brightness/low screen reflectance

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And just generic android auto, I don't want some random android rom

subtle pasture
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Strictly speaking, head units that support Android Auto don't have to actually run Android (but do need an Android phone connected via cable or bluetooth)

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You can totally run the Android Auto app on a head unit that runs Android, but that's not how it was originally intended to work

last cedar
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I can't recommend any Sony ones at least

subtle pasture
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I want a new head unit, but currently I just have a nice dashboard cradle (with integrated charger) for my phone

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Phone automatically starts the Android Auto app on itself when it connects to the car's bluetooth

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Works well enough, and you can do everything you'd need to do while driving hands-free

forest edge
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phablets are gross

clear ferry
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Eh, I use a Kenwood that was $200, has dab, Bluetooth steering wheel and screen mirroring

last cedar
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Gonna get a company car when I close on this house, Skoda Octavia IV. They seem to integrate quite well, but we use iphones at work. Also considering asking for a new phone with esim and just putting my own sim in that, I don't really need 2 phones

clever mortar
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The Octavia is a nice car

clear ferry
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It feels a bit cramped

clever mortar
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Says the person used to driving a boat 😛

clear ferry
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I'd go for the Superb if it ever went that way

clever mortar
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Well, yes

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But if you're after a "mid" sized car, the Octavia gives you awesome bang for buck

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Which is rather the case for all the Skoda range - VW quality, old Skoda prices 😛

clear ferry
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Atleast with a lot of extras, the defualt is... Cheap JodieScronch

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The scout comes with some good extras as a start

clever mortar
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There we go, same chassis as the Audi A3

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or VW Golf

clear ferry
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Now they have finally started selling the Seat here again, that makes a lot of sense

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Cheaper than the Skoda , same stuff

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They stopped selling it here for over a decade, because it was considered too cheap

clever mortar
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Yeah, I love my Seat, even if it's really just an Audi A4 😄

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A few tweaked body panels, and new badges, and they called it a Seat. As soon as you open anything there's Audi logos everywhere 😄

clear ferry
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Seat ateca is interesting

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Or the Skoda kodiaq

forest edge
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@clear ferry "Eh, I use a Kenwood that was $200, has dab"

clever mortar
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The stereo in my car is easily a 15+ year old unit. It's not exactly advanced...

clear ferry
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FM is dead here

clever mortar
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I have contemplated updating it, but really don't care - all the music is handled by the phone anyway

clear ferry
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So gotta need DAB+

forest edge
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my oem radio in my 2006 truck is the newest radio i own

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2004 sorry

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our honda is the 2006 lol

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but that radio is broke

clear ferry
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Hawndah

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As it is pronounced in MI

forest edge
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pretty sure most pronounce it that way

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any fool who ever played street fighter wouldn't pronouce it any other way

clear ferry
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In Norwegian it is Hånda

forest edge
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of course you rejects would mess it up lol

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@clear ferry where is your tumor @deft pewter ? ever since you graphed him on in replacement of @scenic radish I didn't think you could breathe for very long without them around lol

clear ferry
forest edge
hushed basalt
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As in you can't touch it

forest edge
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once connected to the car it's handsfree

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i mean even without it being connected it's handfree lol

clever mortar
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I have my phone in a "cradle" on the dash. Can't say I'm tempted to touch it once I'm driving. I can control everything via voice. About the only thing I can't do is add notifications for roadworks/accidents/etc

clear ferry
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It understands scoootish? That is some serious effort

last cedar
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It is fluent in Haggis

clever mortar
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Everything understands being yelled at by an angry Scotsman. You don't need to know the language to understand the intent 😛

clear ferry
clever mortar
subtle pasture
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@hushed basalt Why would I need to touch my phone while it's in the cradle? O.o

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It has Android Auto running, and accepts voice commands for everything

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"ok google, play my favorites on spotify"
"ok google, directions to starbucks"
"ok google, skip track"

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The fines for distracted driving are pretty high here in California, as well... but a hands-free car kit passes muster

hushed basalt
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I've never found android auto that useful on a handset

subtle pasture
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It's the same UI as Android Auto running on the car's dashboard...

hushed basalt
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I found the UI on a head unit way better

deft pewter
hushed basalt
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Plus you can actually touch it

subtle pasture
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Eh? it's the same UI, on a larger screen...

forest edge
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dosen't much matter if google pulls everything from roo land anyways lol

hushed basalt
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It's like the same ui the way a website is the same if it's responsive on tablet or mobile

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But it reality it can be quite different

subtle pasture
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... I've used them side-by-side, they were identical...

hushed basalt
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The android auto I've seen on a car was quite different

subtle pasture
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The only difference is there's slightly more room on the head unit's screen

forest edge
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you may have seen an earlier version

subtle pasture
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This is what it looks like on the cars I've seen with it built-in...

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Which is the same UI my phone has

forest edge
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android auto has had a couple of skin jobs but the manufactures don't always roll out updates on a timely matter or at all

hushed basalt
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Yeah so your experience has been different to mine

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Besides the ui is useless if you can't touch it

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I just use google maps on a handset

subtle pasture
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Again, I don't touch my phone while driving either. I just bark orders at it

hushed basalt
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Google voice never worked for me in a moving vehicle

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So that's out as well

forest edge
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wtf

subtle pasture
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That makes no sense... is your car THAT loud?

hushed basalt
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My bosses car would let you control the android auto with the steering wheel

forest edge
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he has to travel over vast desolate land and rock

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that was always an option, just the car company had to use it

hushed basalt
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This was on a holden 2018

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Worked really well

forest edge
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hell android auto didn't even come to many suburus till 2019 lol

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car companies are not the best at keeping up to date

hushed basalt
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I'm not sure what android auto offers you over google maps driving mode if you're just doing voice commands

forest edge
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it's everything

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hear your test message,s send them, take calls etc etc

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*text

subtle pasture
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Yeah, it's everything you need while driving

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Also, the simplified UI can be navigated with steering wheel controls

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And there are a million and one bluetooth steering wheel control pads you can stick on to cars that don't already have them

forest edge
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the only thing android auto has over most manufactures own software is the the google maps tho to be honest

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most can handle calls, text just fine

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just some you have to pay for map access, others the map stuff is poure trash

subtle pasture
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The one thing I wish Android Auto would do is give you the option to use the bluetooth voice channel for interaction, rather than the bluetooth media channel

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Android sends EVERYTHING, except calls, out over Bluetooth Media

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This means if, for example, you're listening to FM radio on your car's head unit... you won't hear anything

forest edge
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huh

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don't have that issue on the forrester we have

clear ferry
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FM no

subtle pasture
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My old Windows phones had the option to send voice assistant (Cortana) commands over Bluetooth Voice, which would cause them to "break through" even if I were listening to FM radio, or CD

forest edge
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it just turns down the radio sound real low while using the phone etc

subtle pasture
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It turns down FM radio / CD if your phone makes sound on a totally unrelated input? Wat?

forest edge
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@clear ferry do you even have that? or know what it is?

hushed basalt
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It's just digital mixing

clear ferry
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We sent all our FM antennas to Africa a few years ago

subtle pasture
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Yeah, but I've NEVER seen a head unit that allows bluetooth audio to be heard while playing a CD

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You always have to change inputs

forest edge
subtle pasture
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Sounds like it's using Bluetooth's voice channel, then

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You can usually tell, because the audio quality is significantly worse than bluetooth media (and mono).

forest edge
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oh i dunno, it all sounds mono to me cause frankly the google maps voice is mono lol

subtle pasture
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Google Maps can't use Bluetooth voice channel, unfortunately

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It used to be able to, but Google removed that functionality

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Only works over Bluetooth media now

forest edge
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can't plug your phone in?

subtle pasture
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Huh?

forest edge
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well like we have the option, hook using the charger cable or run over bluetooth

subtle pasture
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I'm not following

forest edge
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well your having issues with using blutooth, do you not have the option to use a cable instead?

subtle pasture
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my phone is plugged into a charging cradle, but that has no connection to the head unit

forest edge
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oh thats right

subtle pasture
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I could use a 3.5mm aux cable, but that's even LESS functional

forest edge
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your ghetto'ing it

subtle pasture
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If I connect using aux, then not even calls can break through...

forest edge
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I forgot you didn't have a head unit that has it and you were just using your phone for it lol

subtle pasture
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Yeah...

hushed basalt
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Yeah the holden I used was pretty tightly integrated

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Sms through the car software etc.

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And Android auto was a seperate app inside it

subtle pasture
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Anyway, old phone (Windows Phone) worked perfectly. Android, so far, hasn't be able to match the in-car experience of Windows Phone...

forest edge
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thats how most are

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if not all

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well aside from those aftermarket android units

clear ferry
forest edge
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@subtle pasture stop trying to get wine out of a beer can lol

subtle pasture
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Not sure what you mean... connecting a phone to a car stereo over bluetooth is pretty normal

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Like, I'm not asking it to do anything weird...

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I'm just asking Android to not suck so hard

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You know you're shit-tier when you're lacking features that Windows Phone had in 2009. lol

forest edge
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considering most cars made from the past 5+ years have had some form of phone intergration built in you are asking for some lol

subtle pasture
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Nothing weird about a phone sending speech out of the bluetooth voice channel... it's just that Android barely supports doing so...

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Like, the head unit literally HAS this feature built-in. Android doesn't support it

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I guess Android is the beer can, in this instance...

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gets her Lumia 920 out of mothballs

forest edge
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@clear ferry I wonder if that is like our satellite radio

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@subtle pasture when you have a vehicle that has android auto built in which now in days is pretty standard, you have none of those issues

subtle pasture
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Yeah, you get new fun issues 😛

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Also, I didn't have any of these issues prior to switching to Android

forest edge
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so asking google to support ghetto 4bangers that still roam the earth is not a good argument

subtle pasture
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A JBL head unit is "ghetto" now, apparently...

clear ferry
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It's... Similar in concept, but better quality afaik

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Since our stations are terrestrial

forest edge
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so do all vehicles sold there have FM/AM functionality removed?

clear ferry
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No, but there are only very local stations

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There are so few left in Norway that I pick up mostly Swedish stations

deft pewter
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Most things have gone digital here too. And once enough people adopt digital, FM will just be switched off.

clear ferry
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Actually there is 95% Christian radio stations left on FM

forest edge
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FM will always exsist here for as long as drive ins do lol

clear ferry
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I remember going to the cinema, in 2011

forest edge
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see charlie chaplin for the first time did ya?

clear ferry
deft pewter
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I think Chaplin was after atx's time.

clear ferry
forest edge
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last aftermarket stereo I bought

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still got the box, i put it back in the box lol

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look up that manfatured date lol

subtle pasture
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LOL @ VFD display

forest edge
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that thing was a boss back in it's day

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I still plan to put it on my deck

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just never got around to it

last cedar
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@deft pewter I did once. It was sat on its belly and it saw me and ran off with its 6 legs. On its back

deft pewter
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Sounds like my old cat

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Used to get under the sofa on her back, then drag herself around upside down 🤣

last cedar
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I would have paid to see that

forest edge
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6 legs huh

last cedar
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Was like a spide

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Without the r, because it only had 6 legs

subtle pasture
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Thaaat's some body horror

last cedar
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I got my towbar socket installed at least. Only been putting it off for about 4 months

forest edge
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the new version of The Thing dosen't hold a candle to the original

last cedar
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Help, I just accidentally bought a Nissan GTR

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Hoping they do a technic one later, a big one. Would buy

gusty wraith
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eyoooo

deft pewter
# last cedar

Is that going in one of your many cupboards with all the other unopened Lego?

warped cove
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new to discord, can someone point me in the direction to find help with openzwave and zwave to MQTT?

deft pewter
warped cove
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okay thanks sorry to interupt the conversation!

deft pewter
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I just finished up my Lego Star Wars advent calendar. The wife normally gets a posh advent calendar at Christmas so she has something to open in January. She did the same for me this year 😄

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Some of the micro-scale models are quite clever.

last cedar
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Yes Mono, for the moment!

deft pewter
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To be seen again in 2037.

odd kindle
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@last cedar no help needed. Everyone should have one of those

scenic radish
deft pewter
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Grafted onto him?

clever mortar
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I've just tried to parse that ... "sentence"

deft pewter
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It's okay. Sonoma only speaks American 'English'.

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Bone apple tea, Sonoma.

scenic radish
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Ahem

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I do too, and I don't appear to have these issues

clever mortar
forest edge
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funny thing is, it's actually accurate what I wrote 😉

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it's ok, EU engrish just isn't up to par

scenic radish
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"grafted him on"

hushed basalt
deft pewter
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Mrs Bucket knows what's up.

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What even is 'EU English'? 🤣

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There's British English and there's wrong English.

forest edge
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use to be

hushed basalt
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It's pronouced BuQuet dear

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Lady of the house speaking

clever mortar
deft pewter
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'use to'? More bone apple tea 😄

forest edge
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you must not deal with language packs much

deft pewter
hushed basalt
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Miss scuzie, see vou plates

scenic radish
dull chasm
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yea we are just bad people

deft pewter
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Eh. I just don't see why people abuse a language and then act like theirs is the official one.

hushed basalt
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Like Defense

deft pewter
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No acknowledgement that they in fact speak a variant of it.

forest edge
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official? 🤔

clever mortar
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“The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.”

deft pewter
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Yes, official. Like 'English' literally comes from 'England'.

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American English is a variant.

clever mortar
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Well, most of the words don't, but how we use them does 😛

hushed basalt
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did u hear dey spek our american in ingland.

forest edge
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yet it's still an "official" language

deft pewter
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Brazilians don't claim to speak Portuguese. It's Brazilian Portuguese.

forest edge
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somewhat recent, as in within your lifetime

deft pewter
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Americans, however, claim to speak English.

scenic radish
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Oh ffs

forest edge
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they speak American English

scenic radish
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S E M A N T I C S

hushed basalt
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I speak for the vegemite territories

deft pewter
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Anyway... there's English, American English and... whatever it is Sonoma speaks 🤣

forest edge
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I speak 8am no sleep

deft pewter
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Vegemite/marmite rocks.

hushed basalt
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But I've spread myself a bit thin lately. I mite need to take care of myself, yeast I burn myself out

deft pewter
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That's another area where people are split. Some people love marmite. The other people are wrong.

hushed basalt
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Just need to vege out for a bit

scenic radish
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Never had it, I've only have American vegemite

forest edge
hushed basalt
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Ah Jim Carey

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What happened to you

forest edge
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every someone says that word, that is what I hear lol

dull chasm
deft pewter
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Websters... the US dictionary? Hmm, I wonder if it could possibly be a little biased.

hushed basalt
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It's sad how many celebrities become rich, famous and powerful for too long and lose touch with reality

deft pewter
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It's okay. I only studied teaching English at university. I could be wrong about all this.

dull chasm
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it is mine ..no its mine ... i had it first .......

forest edge
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british english?

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atleast you studied half of it lol

hushed basalt
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Is that like saying American Texas

dull chasm
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no ...like New England ...

scenic radish
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American Georgia would actually probably clear up some confusion

forest edge
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i hear american texas often actually

hushed basalt
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Is there another Texas

forest edge
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oh wait, i think that's from a certian norwegian who appends "murica" to everything

hushed basalt
deft pewter
hushed basalt
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Like if I hop in a taxi and say, take me to the airport

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He doesn't drive to a differential city 3000 km away

scenic radish
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Hate when that happens

forest edge
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depends, this in america or the outback?

scenic radish
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Mmmm outback

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B L O O M I N O N I O N

forest edge
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is space x launching civilians into space today?

hushed basalt
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Maybe they can take atx

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Let's chip in for a 1 way ticket

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Although I'm sure they charge per kilo so it'll be steep

clear ferry
deft pewter
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Put him in the solid booster... he'll make good fuel.

hushed basalt
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Maybe they can just take his head

forest edge
last cedar
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His chest hair might get caught on the hatch

forest edge
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I think you meant nose hair

midnight adder
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Are there any alternatives to the Pi for IoT? Looking for something that doesn't consume much power, so I don't think x86 pc would be ideal tbh

clear ferry
scenic radish
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There are a number of x86 mini PCs that consume less than 10W

clear ferry
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A 2u server from 10 years ago with 128g mem, 24 cores and 14 drives pull less than 300w, or 5 traditional bulbs

forest edge
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in a nutshell, no there are no alternatives to the pi in the manor of which you are asking

clever mortar
#

The ODroid range is a step between the Pi and a low end PC, but you can likely get better results from a low power PC, and still not draw more power

clear ferry
#

Just don't atom

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Anything j3xxx or higher will be great

forest edge
#

lol blue

clear ferry
#

🤢

clever mortar
#

"Low power" is also often misleading. A nominally higher power system may draw less overall power, because it spends more time idle.

heavy ginkgo
#

Our outback closed

scenic radish
#

That sucks

heavy ginkgo
#

No more thunder from down under

forest edge
#

outback kind of went to shit anyways

scenic radish
clever mortar
#

I prefer sleep more

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Now if you'll excuse me ... 😴

midnight adder
#

Hmm, when I say low power, I mean not much more than the pi consumes

forest edge
#

the HA blue aka odroid as tinkerer mentioned

clever mortar
#

Or any low end PC

midnight adder
clever mortar
#

Seriously, don't confuse "max power draw" with long term power use

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I'd personally look at an old laptop - 5 to 10 years old at most

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That 40W maximum draw is exactly that, without the screen on draw drops, and the system can idle in a very low power state

#

Entirely possible to get a low power PC that idles at the low single digit watts

forest edge
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I would like to see that

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i guess laptops cause all your drawing is recharge right? lol

clever mortar
#

Well, yeah, that and the 40W PSU is for the peak draw

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Screen on max, CPU at max, fans spinning, etc etc

midnight adder
#

I got a laptop laying around not doing much, but only problem with it is overheating.
I'm thinking maybe of using a sff I have also, optiplex gx520, not sure how optimal it is tho

clear ferry
#

Anything is better then a pi

scenic radish
#

Is electricity expensive in your country?

clear ferry
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Or an odroid

midnight adder
#

Not really, I don't want to waste energy that is not needed to be

scenic radish
#

Gotcha

clever mortar
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So make sure it can idle low

forest edge
#

you won't get a laptop to use less power than a pi

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period

scenic radish
#

That's...not necessarily true

forest edge
#

i am sitting at under 3w

clear ferry
#

Oh no, this pi can't run everything I want, better run 5 pi's, that makes more sense

#

Each one has low power draw

#

Also reliability is a huge factor

forest edge
clear ferry
#

One?

midnight adder
#

What's with the Pi hate? lol, pi4 is more than sufficient to run most things

clear ferry
#

Oh mere mortal

forest edge
#

atx can't secondary heat his home off a mere pi running

clever mortar
#

Nothing to do with the fact that SD cards die with little warning...

clear ferry
#

Reliability, and scalability

forest edge
#

thats not an excuse anymore tho

midnight adder
#

I mean mine is hooked up to a SSD, so...

clear ferry
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Neither of which the pi can meet

clever mortar
#

Pi4+SSD is IMO an acceptable low end platform

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Not great, but acceptable

clear ferry
#

🤏

forest edge
#

|| it's great ||

midnight adder
#

Expandability I agree, but there is always a compromise somewhere

forest edge
#

just don't run plex off it and you will be fine

clear ferry
#

An unnecessary compromise mostly

forest edge
#

I mean you could, just limit it to one stream lol

clever mortar
#

It's actually fine if it doesn't transcode

forest edge
#

it can transcode 2 fine, but with HA on the same ticket i wouldn't push past 1 from what i been reading lol

midnight adder
#

I mean if you really wanted a home server, then a nuc or any mini pc will be ideal

clear ferry
#

Plex server with usb attached storage? I'll pass

clever mortar
#

I run HA, along with Zigbee2MQTT, and a few other things, on a 7 year old laptop

#

It has plenty of capacity to spare. I/O would be the biggest bottleneck

midnight adder
#

That's fine, but your use case is different to mine

clear ferry
#

My standards

forest edge
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your standards are, if it don't suck up enough juice to power a small town then it isn't HP enough

clear ferry
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If I can't trust it, I'll not use it

forest edge
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more like, you gotten so use to fixing it, you can't picture life without fixing it

clear ferry
#

Come back when your pi has 10 years uptime

forest edge
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my rpi2 has been running none stop on the same sd card since the rpi2 was released

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through power outages and everything, so there..

clever mortar
midnight adder
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Think that's impossible, since you'll need sudo apt upgrade

clear ferry
forest edge
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it's running kodi

clear ferry
grave granite
#

Hey guys, just to confirm can I really not use light groups in HA scenes? They don't seem to show up in the menu.

forest edge
#

waits for mono

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clever mortar
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He's too slow 😉

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Hint though:

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forest edge
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I need to mess with scenes one day

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but then I am not surrounded by led strips and rgb lights

clever mortar
#

They're like scripts, only less so

deft pewter
grave granite
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Ahh right thanks!

deft pewter
#

And sometimes I do things other than get annoyed at the plebes.

clever mortar
forest edge
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this new rpi pico looks interesting

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I wonder if it could be an alternative to the esp

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downside no onboard wifi

clever mortar
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There's chat about it in the channel history

midnight adder
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esp is much cheaper, and has wifi

forest edge
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i dunno 4 bucks is cheap if you don't need wifi

midnight adder
#

I think it was developed as a learning device tbh, and to add to the pi ecosystem

forest edge
#

with way more connections

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oh i'm sure, i think everything they make is "marketed" towards that

midnight adder
#

Thinking of getting one?

forest edge
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i have no use for one

deft pewter
#

A D1 mini is cheaper and has WiFi.

forest edge
#

I may pick one up just to keep my "collection" complete

deft pewter
#

I don't know who they're marketing the Pico at.

forest edge
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but prob won't use it for anything

#

is a di mini cheaper?

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I thought they were close to 10 bucks

midnight adder
deft pewter
#

NodeMCU are expensive. D1 mini are cheap.

#

Any ESP can run Arduino code, Integral. ESP's are 'educational' 😉

#

Cheaper and more capable.

forest edge
#

9 bucks for one di mini on amazon for me

deft pewter
#

Amazon for electronics? 🤢

forest edge
#

cheaper if you buy like a pack of them tho

clever mortar
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Or buy from AliExpress 😉

midnight adder
#

True, but rpi is better documented, no?

forest edge
#

not all of us can tolerate aliexpress

deft pewter
forest edge
#

if I order something I want it to come this year

midnight adder
#

I'd think it's more friendly for novices

deft pewter
#

My recent orders took less than 14 days. 🤷‍♂️

forest edge
#

yea well they probably sent a stork directly to your house

clever mortar
#

Delivery time depends on where it comes from and whether you don't want to pay for shipping

#

I've had quick deliveries, and ones that took 6 weeks

deft pewter
#

I paid something like £6 for 5x D1 mini on my recent order, including shipping.

forest edge
#

lol overnight from ali for me would probably be a few hundred

deft pewter
#

Try getting a Pico for £1.20 delivered.

clever mortar
#

If I'm not in a rush, I'll save money and wait. If I am in a rush, I probably screwed up

midnight adder
#

Quickest I had was 2 weeks to UK, from Sonoff store

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I was surprised tbh

forest edge
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i get stuff from amazon next day most times

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3 days max

deft pewter
#

And that's why you're overpaying.

forest edge
#

well aside from stuff that actually comes from china lol

deft pewter
#

I buy most stuff from Amazon but I'm not going to pay £10 for a £1 item.

forest edge
#

stuff that comes from that side of the world is slow as balls

clever mortar
#

I don't see the need for have it tomorrow 90% of the time

midnight adder
#

I mean sometimes you can't be asked, rather pay for the extra charges lol

clever mortar
#

If I need it that fast, I can likely go to a local store 😄

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(when they're open)

forest edge
#

me either but my choice is tomorrow or this time next year

#

I choose tomorrow

deft pewter
#

Paying for luxuries (which expedited shipping certainly is) and complaining about how they can't afford to save for a mortgage 😠

#

And don't get me started on avocado on toast.

midnight adder
#

What's more annoying is getting your 1 months delivery wait extended lol

forest edge
#

@deft pewter wtf you going on about? lol

last cedar
#

Mono is on about solving the worlds biggest issues

forest edge
#

world or local problem?

last cedar
#

World

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Universe

forest edge
#

ah

last cedar
#

Etc

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127.0.0.1

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Etc

forest edge
#

damn aliens jacking up prices

last cedar
#

Yeah

#

That is totally why houses are so hard to purchase

#

Bloody aliens

forest edge
#

do what the millennials do, live in converted vans lol

last cedar
#

I have thought about it

#

Cold in Sweden though

deft pewter
forest edge
#

yea well thats change for ya

deft pewter
#

The same generation that act like boomers are also single-handedly responsible for climate change, while having avos flown around the world.

forest edge
#

get use to it cause in about 20 more years there will be another drastic sshift

deft pewter
#

You mean there's going to be a generation that complains more than Milennials? I can't wait...

forest edge
#

always

midnight adder
#

Damn, this escalated quickly, from aliexpress to world issues lol

forest edge
#

all because you wanted to save on your electrical bill. the shame

last cedar
#

In 20 years the aeroplanes transporting avocados will actually be flying avocados

deft pewter
#

I just don't get it. They drive rentals, eat out all the time... and it's still someone else's fault they can't save money for a deposit on a house.

deft pewter
cedar chasm
#

I blame the media | takes cover behind some trees

clever mortar
#

I blame everybody

last cedar
#

It isn't my fault

#

I just eat all your trash

#

Leave me alone

#

Actually, serious question now

#

Do raccoons fart?

cedar chasm
#

Are they in the woods?

forest edge
#

every breathing lifeform farts

cedar chasm
#

Is anyone else around?

forest edge
#

even fish

last cedar
#

I bet raccoon farts are the true cause of global warming

cedar chasm
#

racoon burps actually

#

it's science

last cedar
#

Oof

forest edge
#

you should take a picture of your living room and show us @last cedar . dying to see the overwhelming amount of racoon related crap you have around everywhere you look lol

last cedar
forest edge
#

thats way too neat, a racoon dosen't live there

last cedar
#

I just tidied it

#

Dom-s-t-cated

#

I even use the toilet

#

Most of the time

clever mortar
#

Nobody reads the channel topics 🤔

scenic radish
#

wifi 🤢

clever mortar
#

The answer would be not here and specifically in your install method channel

clear ferry
tame sand
#

you can do so much more with esp32... would choose it most of times over esp8266

low harness
clear ferry
#

That looks like the connection for the dishwasher

smoky oxide
#

yeah, the mandated shutoff valve, reason for more water damage than the actual dish washer if I remember the stats correctly 😉

clear ferry
#

Kitchen water damage is pretty normal coverage though, my parents have had their floor replaced twice by insurance for next to nothing KEKW

#

If only I would get some water damage

scenic radish
#

some of my neighbors have had catastrophic water damage to their units from the ones above them, and as bad as it sounds, i've been thinking "hmm... paying $500 for all new drywall, paint, etc. isn't a bad deal"

#

calls unit owner from above

stable tangle
low harness
last cedar
#

It is a bosch that turns the water off, but of course that won't stop any leaks before. It is a shitty hired appartment that I don't give a shit about so no worries if anything else leaks

low harness
#

Actully... no it doesn't. It's 50/50.

stable tangle
#

Hi, I have projection screen with RF remote, can you help me with hardware for it?

clear ferry
stable tangle
#

cool

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;D

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low harness
stable tangle
#

I have some problems with channels here 😉

clear ferry
smoky oxide
#

dont worry, everyone has 🙂

low harness
#

There's a lot of them...

clear ferry
#

There should be more

last cedar
#

@clear ferry when I move I will have leak detectors everywhere and do stuff properly so very little water damage chance

clear ferry
stable tangle
#

So I came here ;D

last cedar
#

Draw it by hand

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With ascii characters

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clever mortar
#

Much easier than getting into trouble because you didn't think of that 😉

last cedar
#

Much more fun to draw with ascii characters

stable tangle
#

I will use figlet, I am not an artist

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or aalib

wet pilot
#

lol ascii art as long as its under 10ish lines

last cedar
#

Better do it clearly then 😂

stable tangle
#

will do

last cedar
#

I am going to do an ascii pencil now

|=|===========>

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Proper dope pencil

#

See the detail at the end?

clear ferry
#

<=3

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🤏

#

(~￣³￣)~

gusty wraith
#

just discovered my heating is dumb AF... like in the room sensor does jack shit and there's no temp sensor outside ... no wonder i got 35-38000 kWh a year ...

last cedar
#

38000kWh a year?

#

As much as 1 of Atxs servers?

#

Got an old optiplex in the cellar I forgot about. Will play with docker on it :D

gusty wraith
#

yup...

#

should be around 28-30k

#

but without weather-depending control and what to be appears a faulty room thermostat it's just a plain dumb water heater

harsh cosmos
#

What is a good channel to ask about logbook inner-workings?

scenic radish
dull chasm
#

hmm .... the talk ...maybe i should be listening to the great ones about america

“What an extraordinary people the Americans are! Their hospitality is a revelation to me and they make you feel at home and at ease in a way that I have never before experienced.” To his brother he wrote: “This is a very great country my dear Jack. Not pretty or romantic but great and utilitarian. There seems to be no such thing as reverence or tradition. Everything is eminently practical and things are judged from a matter of fact standpoint.”
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not the gibbeish of the locals

clever mortar
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Ah, the good old days...

#

Or at least the old days

dull chasm
#

This proves there where some good Englishmen huh

clever mortar
#

Oh, every country has good, and bad, but ...

#

The sun never set on the British empire, an Indian nationalist later sardonically commented, because even God couldn't trust the Englishman in the dark

dull chasm
#

damn thats not right to say of @deft pewter

fallen furnace
#

does anyone know how to update HACS in homeassistant? I can't even find tutorials online on this

clever mortar
#

Please read the channel topic

dull chasm
#

click click

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clever mortar
#

Of course, updating HACS doesn't need much of a tutorial... normally

dull chasm
#

and i run

clever mortar
night zodiac
hushed basalt
#

It's the thought that counts

night zodiac
#

I just wish they would leave it on the mat

clever mortar
#

They do here at least

#

Pizza places will even put an empty box on the bottom if it's raining

hushed basalt
#

I had a food delivery once left on my mat

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I didn't order it though

#

It was yum

#

Nothig like the taste of expensive gourmet fast food you didn't pay for

night zodiac
#

That sounds amazing

hushed basalt
#

It was two burgers and chips

#

Brioche buns, gourmet mince, bacon, caramelised onions, etc

#

The second burger was chicken schnitzel, fried egg, pineapple

#

Thanks chrome we don't need alttext on everything

clever mortar
#

Sadly, I don't think that Perth is close enough for me to get delivery

night zodiac
#

Did you eat both burgers

hushed basalt
#

No I shared with my wife

hushed basalt
#

... Ontario...

clever mortar
hushed basalt
#

There's this Wales down south I hear is new. Maybe they have something

karmic veldt
#

Hello, Hello

hushed basalt
#

I should probably learn SQL

#

Good morning!

karmic veldt
#

Night haha

#

atleast over here

#

I'm actually looking for inspiration with my Home assistant.
I've got it running for over a year but I don't have any creativity which makes it sad. I don't use it that much

hushed basalt
#

Youtube vids would be a good starting point

karmic veldt
#

however all my rooms have Phillips hue lighting and sensors
11 hue lights
9 hue motion/temp/light sensors
4 tado systtems
12 google speakers.

karmic veldt
#

That's why I tried to join this discord maybe somebody can give me some great inspiration

hushed basalt
karmic veldt
#

thanks i'll read those chats a bit.

#

What is your most usefull automation in home assistant if I may ask?

hushed basalt
#

You can also look at blueprints or HACS for integrations

#

Useful is relative

#

For me, garage door sensor and air conditioner control are the most essential

karmic veldt
#

Currently i'm checking HACS indeed I've found an awesome plugin that's shows me when I should put my containers outside

deft pewter
hushed basalt
#

Me too

#

Clicked for the plot

deft pewter
#

I think that's his stepsister.

clear ferry
last kiln
#

Are you people turning into Howard Hughes? Don't want to talk to a pretty girl because germs?

deft pewter
#

?

#

Do you only come to this server to ask stupid questions and troll people?

last kiln
#

Yes.

#

I come here to ask why an integration doesn't work and the first room is people being stupid every time.

deft pewter
#

It's the lounge. It's for shitposting.

#

If you don't like it, don't come in here.

last kiln
#

Don't talk about the incest post though

deft pewter
#

👋

last kiln
#

Incest is awesome guys.

night zodiac
#

well duh

tame sand
night zodiac
#

but it's best to keep it in the family

deft pewter
#

Gotta keep it in the family.

#

😄

last kiln
#

You have no right being offended then.

night zodiac
#

Nobody is offended, we just like to encourage shitposting rather than tell people what not to say

#

pee pee head

deft pewter
last kiln
#

Then why are you trying to imply I shouldn't compare people to Howard Hughes?

clear ferry
deft pewter
night zodiac
#

big ol

last kiln
#

Hm, OK thanks I guess.

deft pewter
clear ferry
deft pewter
#

Dick-holster 🤣

last kiln
#

If you're scared to talk to a sandwich girl, you deserve covid

#

But now I forgot why I came here

night zodiac
#

see, we knew you were a penis

last kiln
#

Trying to wrap my head around the culture here

deft pewter
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last kiln
#

"Deadly"

deft pewter
#

It kills, therefore it's deadly. 🤷‍♂️

#

Kinda what the word means.

last kiln
#

I hope you drive a nice sports car.

#

People die in those too.

night zodiac
#

what kind of mental gymnastics is that

clear ferry
#

Oh we have an anti vaxxer

last kiln
#

It kills, so it's deeadly

night zodiac
#

standing next to a sports car doesn't kill me, hotdog

last kiln
#

Don't you think penis as an insult is gender-shaming?

hushed basalt
#

Society goes into hard lockdown, deaths are low "SeE iT dOesN'T eXiSt"

#

It's like putting anti-aircraft guns up in WW2 and people saying "Well obviously it's a waste there have barely been any enemy planes"

last kiln
#

You just debunked your own argument

hushed basalt
#

"WhY arE yOu taKing MeaSuRes aGaiNst EneMy bOmbErs, I HopE yoU doN't RidE a bUs tHey kIll peOpLe tOo"

hushed basalt
last kiln
#

Do guns prevent planes from existing? Or do they shoot them down after the fact?

night zodiac
#

lolwut

hushed basalt
#

you're not going to do well here

night zodiac
#

next level shitposting

last kiln
#

You need to work on your metaphors, that's all.

hushed basalt
#

I'm not going to continue this, there's no point.

night zodiac
#

or maybe if the first path of your brain doesn't make sense, try thinking further

last kiln
#

In your scenario, nobody would build planes so as long as the guns exist.

#

Yes, I'm autistic enough to argue this point.

night zodiac
#

why are you talking in absolutes? Are you a sith?

hushed basalt
#

Only the Sith deal in absolutes

last kiln
#

Anyway I'm the bad guy because I'm not posting pictures of people on the internet to shame them.

hushed basalt
#

Just give up @night zodiac this is a no-win scenario

last kiln
#

Which is really shitty to do

clear ferry
#

Is this Liam's other account?

last kiln
#

It's like I'm talking to a bunch of seventh-grade girls or something.

night zodiac
#

It's in a chat room, they wore a mask to where you can't identify them, and I tipped them assuming them were able to follow basic instructions

#

we shame people for that every day

last kiln
#

I think maybe you should feel shame.

night zodiac
#

well obviously, I am still talking to you

last kiln
#

For having that thought process.

night zodiac
#

that they can't follow their own contactless delivery options?

clear ferry
#

Poor maskers should always be shamed

last kiln
#

Anyway, sorry for disrupting the hen's nest.

hushed basalt
#

Laughs in covid free state... for now....

last kiln
#

Continue living life in a plastic bubble

night zodiac
#

I am trying, that is the point

deft pewter
last kiln
#

Hope no-one breathes on you the wrong way

night zodiac
#

same

#

luckily not many people fail to do contactless delivery

#

or we shame the dirty fuckers

#

in a random chat

clear ferry
deft pewter
night zodiac
#

jeeze, atx

#

how do I get rid of that from the internet

clear ferry
hushed basalt
#

@night zodiac do this, but a billion times

night zodiac
#

I have seen much worse things, but for some reason this- I can't look away

hushed basalt
#

Or be mastercard and visa and cut off Tenor's payment options

#

then they'll delete 2/3rds of their content

clear ferry
#

@night zodiac better?

night zodiac
#

"oh no" outloud

clear ferry
deft pewter
clear ferry
brittle plaza
#

Momentary frustration vent: I'm trying like hell to give home assistant a fair go. Every corner I turn seems to have 5 more corners hidden behind it... It's very disheartening. /vent over

deft pewter
deft pewter
clear ferry
brittle plaza
night zodiac
#

yeah, best to avoid guides and stick to official docs

#

the guides are outdated every 2 weeks

brittle plaza
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I feel like I'm configuring APACHE for the first time back in the 90's 😆

deft pewter
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The first hours are the worst. Once you're a few hundred (or thousand) hours in, it all seems a lot easier.

last kiln
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There is no support on Discord. Give up now before you waste more time.

clear ferry
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Ignore the troll

last kiln
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Forums have more info

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The discord is like a girl's bathroom. IT's for gossip and telling you you're in the wrong room.

brittle plaza
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Seems like there's no "out of the box" bulb that one can buy for under $40 that's supported consistently. I've tried Kasa, Lumiman, Sylvania Smart, and Merkury...

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yeah, I hear you. Just needed to vent somewhere before I run into one of the bathrooms to yell at the top of my lungs 😆

last kiln
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I don't know if you're renting or something, but I've had better luck with Zwave switches. I returned all the smart bulbs I've tried.

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Inovelli makes 'em cheap

brittle plaza
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Thought about switches/outlets.. But I really want to do coloring with scenes

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kinda the whole reason I decided to try all this out!

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Thought to myself "I'm an engineer, I can figure this out! " and I find myself looking over at the bottle of tequila pretty often today haha

last kiln
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Hm, I've never tried Zigbee but maybe you can try it for me and report back. There are zigbee remotes that are better than the available zwave remotes.

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And you can buy a cheap RGB LED strip, and a zigbee controller for it

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For example, there's a kitchen hardware company called Tresco

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They sell this made-in-China junk for hundreds of dollars, for kitchen cabinet lighting

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But I realized you can buy the made-in-china junk for like $10, and it's literally the same thing.

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Of course you don't get the return policy or phone support or any of that stuff.

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Oh, that's why I came here; to ask about remotes

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I have no idea if something like that can integrate with HA

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But the LED controller it usually pairs with ought to be able to.

deft pewter
last kiln
deft pewter
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I think that last one's dead. Both shoes came off.

last kiln
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I've seen enough Liveleak to confirm

deft pewter
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@clear ferry What are the advantages of swag over nginx proxy manager?

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Oh... it looks limited to a single domain 😐

night zodiac
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swag is a super fast reverse proxy that does SSL for you

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way less config

deft pewter
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This is lame:

      - URL=yourdomain.url
      - SUBDOMAINS=www,```
night zodiac
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I've used nothing but nginx for a long time though

deft pewter
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I dunno. I don't mind the config for NPM. Plus it can handle multiple domains and SSL.

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I just added a wildcard cert for my personal domain to NPM, only took a moment. Can still have other certs for stuff that's under services like DuckDNS.

cedar glacier
deft pewter
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I think I'll magic up some other pointless projects over the next week to keep myself busy. Now that I have Route53 and ddclient set up properly, I can fire up new services quickly on my home server.

night zodiac
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how are you going to solder route53

amber bramble
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ive been trying to get a mopidy system setup for like 2 months so there's a project if you want something to keep you busy

last kiln
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Just use MPD, it's like better

deft pewter
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The point of mopidy is to output to various soundsystems around a home, right? I don't have enough of those to bother.

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Got a couple of Google Home devices for the rare occasion I listen to something other than my PC.

last plaza
amber bramble
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documentation is like the wild west over there

last plaza
last kiln
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Only thing I can't figure out is that apparently HA doesn't support building up a play queue, so there's like a 4 second delay between TTS and music.

deft pewter
last kiln
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Believe me, they don't.

proud ore
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Hmm anyone got any tips for parents friendly apps for IoT stuff?

cedar glacier
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lol

proud ore
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I'm making a small MQTT based IR remote for their aircon, so they can control it remotely

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and just something on their phone where they can hit a button or two

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I'm leaning towards HA, but I just don't feel like spending 50 bucks on an RPi for them

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and they'd also be mondo confused with most of HA

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they're used to the hue app basically

last kiln
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Duckle, the AC is IR and you want a remote? You could just buy a universal remote.

proud ore
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@last kiln A wifi-connected remote? 🙂

dull chasm
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@last kiln they def would or at least answer your question as it is on TOPIC

proud ore
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they want to remotely control it

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it's for a heat-pump in a vacation home, and they want to be able to turn on the heating in advance, so it's not freezing when they get there.

last kiln
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Well you may end up spending more than 50 dollars

proud ore
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@last kiln on what?

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the 50 Pi dollars would be on top of the hardware (that I already have)

deft pewter
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You could build an ESPHome device easily enough. Ask that part in #diy-archived

dull chasm
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guys yall are getting off .topic

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deft pewter
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And yes, they are... but the mods have been lax 🤣

dull chasm
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🔨

proud ore
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@dull chasm Oh sorry. I was reading that and didn't see a specific topic, just "not this"

forest edge
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there is actually stuff showcased at ces that is suppose to do crap like turn on a heater from across the country

proud ore
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@dull chasm What is on topic in here? Because the topic of the channel just lists what isn't.

forest edge
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mono's bad engrish

deft pewter
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Yes, I am bad engrish.

tidal bronze
deft pewter
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He's fighting off a trouser snake.

dull chasm
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@tidal bronze an addition to @forest edge 's barn

forest edge
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i didn't know you were amish

dull chasm
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only on fridays

forest edge
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well it only takes the amish a day, so that is fine with me

dull chasm
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cathloic on the weekend ...redneck monday thru thursday

scenic radish
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Is Friday not a weekday? thunking

forest edge
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only for people who live near chicago

white nexus
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My alert for trouser snake went off

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What did I miss

night zodiac
subtle pasture
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They got me on adulting, but not the other two. 😂

scenic radish
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Something something avocado toast

subtle pasture
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Also that... I don't go out of my way to make avocado toast, but if I happen to have some avocado and nothing else to use it for...

forest edge
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funny thing is, you grow up blaming others and as you get old you continue to blame the generation behind you.

night zodiac
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terrible comedian

hushed basalt
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Avacado toast is about people buying $18 avacado toast breakfasts and saying they can't afford a house

night zodiac
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avocados are cheap here

subtle pasture
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Yeah, they're cheap here too... nobody in their right mind would pay $18 to eat them at a restaurant

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That's shit you make at home because it's what's handy

hushed basalt
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Usually from boomers who built up their "wealth" on favourable government policy property schemes

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$18.50. plus $2 for gluten free

subtle pasture
forest edge
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saying in general

night zodiac
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avacados here are like 70 cents and toast is pretty cheap

hushed basalt
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Avacados are cheap here too if in season

forest edge
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I have older millennial in my other discord who blamed the generation before him as he got older and now that he has kids and a job where he manages all he does is blame the generation behind him lol

subtle pasture
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Yeah, avocado on toast is practically a struggle meal. I suppose there is some comedy in places that turn it into a hyper-pretentious affair.

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@forest edge What the heck are they blaming Gen X for? O.o

forest edge
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being lazy..

hushed basalt
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Probably tiktok or something

subtle pasture
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Being lazy? That's a Millennial stereotype...

forest edge
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not genx

hushed basalt
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It's almost as if every generation is a bad as the other

forest edge
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they blame x for ruining the world

night zodiac
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x gonna give it to ya

subtle pasture
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Nah, baby boomers are struggling with latent lead poisoning right about now ⏲️

forest edge
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they blame z or whatever it is for being lazy

subtle pasture
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Thanks leaded gasoline!

hushed basalt
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they should bring back the cane

forest edge
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leaded has ben gone for a very long time

hushed basalt
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back in my day we had one cornflake for breakfast if we were lucky

forest edge
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where di you see people are just now feeling it's effects?

night zodiac
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It is so annoying having to add my own lead

subtle pasture
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@forest edge Lead replaces calcium in bones. Later in life, when bone mineral density starts to decline, that lead is released back into circulation, causing chronic lead poisoning and progressive cognitive decline.

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Boomers grew up when leaded gasoline was common, and everyone was huffing lead every morning on the way to school

forest edge
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ok, but I had not heard of it being an issue

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which is why I asked, where di you hear this from

hushed basalt
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Countries that don't aggressively adopt electric cars will have far worse lung disease problems in aging population. Mark my words

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!remindme 40 years

subtle pasture
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Studies on early onset Alzheimer's/dementia patients. It was found that supplementing calcium in their diets caused a marked reduction in the progression of their illness... which lead the researchers to discover the lead problem

forest edge
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not common practice to get lead gasoline on your skin. so this must be for a very small percentage of people

subtle pasture
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Thanks to when regulations went into effect on leaded gasoline, we're likely to see an uptick in early onset Alzheimer's/dementia in a large chunk of baby boomers. It's actually rather worrying...

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Oh, it has nothing to do with skin contact... it was inhaled

dull chasm
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damn @forest edge i may as well bend over and kiss it ......lead gas ...cow farts ....I am doomed

forest edge
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lol

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the inhaling part confuses me alittle

dull chasm
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and we drank directly from the water hose outside

forest edge
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lol

subtle pasture
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetraethyllead

Tetraethyllead

Tetraethyllead (commonly styled tetraethyl lead), abbreviated TEL, is an organolead compound with the formula (CH3CH2)4Pb. It is a petro-fuel additive, first being mixed with gasoline beginning in the 1920s as a patented octane rating booster that allowed engine compression to be raised substantially. This in turn caused increased vehicle perfor...

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To the point that ice cores from the arctic, dated to the period when leaded gasoline was in wide use, show lead contamination

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We put a worrying amount of lead into the atmosphere

forest edge
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to be honest, this is like the same percentage of people impacted by asbestos

subtle pasture
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Except you can get away from asbestos...

forest edge
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you don't have to snort the fuel pump either

subtle pasture
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You didn't for this. Just walking to school was have you inhaling it

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It was on every surface, it was contaminating food

forest edge
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know alot of "boomers" none of which had any issues

subtle pasture
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There's a very good reason lead was banned as a fuel additive

forest edge
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but then i guess diffrent parts of the country shit is diffrent

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just hard to picture

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hell i remember lead at the pumps lol

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not primary, was both unleaded and lead

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before all this octane rating stuff came out

hushed basalt
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Aliens looking at Earth like, wtf

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They're poisoning themselves to make line go up

subtle pasture
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Pretty much. Oil companies lobbied hard to keep lead as a fuel additive...

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They straight-up paid off experts to lie in court about the dangers of Tetraethyllead

forest edge
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everything bad is because of greed

subtle pasture
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Look up Clair Patterson some time, he's the guy who busted the whole lead conspiracy wide open

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Dude was trying to determine the precise age of the Earth, but lead contamination was screwing up all of his experiments... so he went to figure out where all the lead in the environment was coming from

last kiln
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Airplanes still use leaded fuel

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Helps lubricate the whatsits

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Inb4 chemtrails

wet pilot
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piston planes use 100 Low Lead

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though some of the newer ones can use MoGas

last kiln
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Yes

wet pilot
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DiamondStar makes a twin that can use Jet-A though

last kiln
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Usually it's the light sport ones that use autogas though

wet pilot
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Rotax engines can use mogas

last kiln
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Or experimental

wet pilot
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but that is a certified engine

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i think UL can also use it

last kiln
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Some turbines can burn anything you put in them, but you have to have it cleaned professionally after so many hours

wet pilot
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or Titan. i don't remember

last kiln
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They're trying to use Corvette engines in experimentals now

wet pilot
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eh, mainly individuals trying it

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but you can do whatever you want

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some are putting snowmobile engines in experimentals

last kiln
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They're still Rotax engines, though?

wet pilot
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not always