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night zodiac
unborn grail
Fish tank integration lol
clear ferry
You should 3d print an enclosure
unborn grail
You should 3d print an enclosure
Big time. Coming soon.
unborn grail
My old simple metal recently stopped working. Gonna have to replace it
unborn grail
or is that the room, lol
Yeah, Dht22 for the area. Ds18bidk in the water.
night zodiac
nice. dht are trash though
unborn grail
nice. dht are trash though
Old arduino leftovers. Honestly have no need for it lol. Just no other temp sensors in living room so figured why not
unborn grail
nice. dht are trash though
Any recommendations ? I’ve recently switched motion from 501s to am312s
night zodiac
fo sho. I used mine similarly and then bought lots of bme280s
unborn grail
Niiiice thank you. Seen and read about them
night zodiac
yup. esphome makes it all quick too
clear ferry
I2c 
unborn grail
Ok cool go to know. Lol
unborn grail
I gotta get going with the oled displays
Got a few and tried with arduino. While it worked i didn’t have much left for anything else.
night zodiac
I bought some more that I have never used yet
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0761LV1SD/ I have these in a box somewhere next to me
small as fuck
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072Q2X2LL/ this is normally what I get. top pixels are yellow, bot are blue
they have them single color too though
asb, if you are looking into adding temp/humidity to all of your rooms
the new hip thing to do is these screen/sensor things
so you need an esp32 or something that can forward BLE for all of your rooms
storm summit
if only they were zigbee.
night zodiac
cheap as hell for a screen though
night zodiac
cold country dollars or real dollars?
clear ferry
Murica dollars
wet pilot
dollariedoos
night zodiac
I love how phnx pops in to say a funny word
wet pilot
its that time of night
night zodiac
every time I try to focus on HA lately, my girl brings in a cooler of drinks and I get drunk and chat on discord
sorry y'all
clear ferry
One of the few mods that haven't blocked me you say
wet pilot
lol
night zodiac
I am pretty tame though
clear ferry
wet pilot
i don't think i've really blocked anyone
people leave me alone for some reason
knocks on wood
night zodiac
I have a hard time actually getting upset from people
storm summit
zigbee is the same freq as ble so why not?
wet pilot
eh, i don't tend to get upset. usually a "you're obnoxious" response
night zodiac
I have 12 on the way for $49.57
ahh, the "blocked message" thing annoys me more than people
clear ferry
I've blocked a single person in two years
night zodiac
Usually all of the discord I am in, people recognize me and harass me so I have escaped here successfully mostly.
clear ferry
wet pilot
i think i'm at like 2 in 5
night zodiac
not that I am famous or anything, I just get around
ohhh, those screens
I was talking about the BLE temp/hum sensors
clear ferry
Oh
night zodiac
man, I want to spend $100 on aliexpress with arduino parts and be loaded in parts
clear ferry
You mean like my garage?
wet pilot
anyway, time for me to pass out. gnight from America/New_York
night zodiac
Good night from America/Chicago
clear ferry
New-America/York
night zodiac
-6, repRESENT
wet pilot
lol
clear ferry
The screens ? No I got two
night zodiac
is your name a pronounceable word or just a bunch of asdfazxddffdf
only 2 and not flashed 'em all?
night zodiac
okay, so not a word
clear ferry
The first four years online my nick was haCker or something
night zodiac
https://share.busheezy.dev/7TTEdW.png I sent them to my old address. I have to snag them if they actually leave them
one of my early nicknames was sweettooth
also, Terminal
terrible google uniqueness
atxbyea is a banger for google hits
I haven't googled it, but I assume
I'm going to attach a few ws2812bs directly to a 8266 and make it like a notification light or something.
discord blinky blink
night zodiac
I guess I will use my bar light strip instead of the ceiling for a night light now
atx, did you see my bar
night zodiac
Scroll up
clear ferry
I've seen worse 
night zodiac
You can't see it unless you are on the floor so works for me. It isn't permanent either. Nice asb
You should try a setup with each side as a segment
Idk if you can do that with config only or not
unborn grail
You should try a setup with each side as a segment
I’ve been considering ripping each wall into segments actually!!! And sorry I keep getting distracted
I grabbed this FEIT cheap WiFi bulb at Menards today
Turns out super easy to add to HA with tuya app
last cedar
@clear ferry are there zigbee versions of those temp/ humidity sensors?
molten osprey
I'm going to give up on my $2 433MHz flood detectors
Doesnt Xiaomi have some cheap ones?
last cedar
I am thinking 1 in each room. Flood detection would be very useful, might go the door entry/alarm system route for that though
molten osprey
I've actually had a water pipe burst TWICE in my previous apartment. So I consider it a genuine danger 🙂
The cheap detectors I have now seem unreliable.
glossy inlet
I have the aqara (xiaomi) water leak detectors. I haven't tested them with water, but I did use a pair of scissors to short them and they worked as expected (using deconz + conbee ii)
molten osprey
Nice.
glossy inlet
i have one under my water heater tank. am going to put other ones at different corners of the house where water might leak in from outside.
molten osprey
For me it's under every sink.
glossy inlet
ooh... good call... might have to order a few more from ali
molten osprey
Got a link from where you ordered yours on ali?
glossy inlet
molten osprey
Oh I use rhum for that
molten osprey
relative humidity seems the most appropriate thing to measure
that is why you need the fan, after all ... to reduce the humidity
clear ferry
Makes sense in some countries
We don't have bathroom fans in Norway
Or, I've seen it... Twice in my life
molten osprey
in NL we do, here in TH too
last cedar
We don't even have bathrooms in Sweden
molten osprey
haha
I started watching a Norwegian show on Netflix last night
first time, I think
clear ferry
Which one?
molten osprey
it's about russians 'peacefully invading' your country or something? hang on.
"Occupied" is the title on Netflix
vast dove
We don't have bathroom fans in Norway
There is quite a lot of them.
molten osprey
"Okkupert" IMDb 7.7
clear ferry
Really, I've only seen it in two houses, and I usually take a shit in every house I visit 
last cedar
"kom fram ubåts jävel"
clear ferry
"Okkupert" IMDb 7.7
I see it, but I've never seen it
molten osprey
7.7 is not too bad
clear ferry
"kom fram ubåts jävel"
Don't bring Peter Madsen into this
last cedar
3.6 is not great, not terrible though
molten osprey
what is 3.6?
last cedar
Chernobyl
clear ferry
molten osprey
I think there are two about CHernobyl
last cedar
The meter that maxed at 3.6 (roentgens per hour????) measured 3.6
last cedar
It is 200IQ
clear ferry
last cedar
If you make the meter only go to like 25 volts, everything is max 25 volts
molten osprey
yeah yeah
clear ferry
Who needs high voltage, my entire house is 25v!
molten osprey
hehe
last cedar
Apparently it was closer to 15000, not 3.6 at the actual core, so meter was a bit off
clear ferry
Reminds me.... I need to get my esp+pir sensors running
molten osprey
433 ftw
clear ferry
🤢
molten osprey
hehe
molten osprey
i'm in the process of sorting out my wifi ... until that is proper done, 433 is the one technology where i dont need to worry "if the signal will make it to the base" ... it will 🙂
waiting for someone from europe to come visit thailand, and carry a unifi wifi 6 access point over
last cedar
I mean, everything has it use. Even 433. Even if that is only polluting the air with waves 😂
molten osprey
Oh we've got a lot of pollution of the air here anyway!
AQI 192 this morning
dont think i can send photos on here, can i?
last cedar
There are lots of standards, and so many different things using different standards. Not knocking 433 but a lot of old tech needs to die
Yes, share pics (sfw!)
last cedar
Thicc
molten osprey
and the worst thing is .... this is the time of year where temperatures are actually nice in this country
but i cant enjoy it because ... i'm not going out in that!
molten osprey
it is ... and entirely preventible
last cedar
We hear all the time here how air is better because of corona, but yours looked terrible
molten osprey
this is not a year-round thing
this is the result of farmers burning their fields all over the mehkong delta
(the cheapest way to get it ready for the next seeding round)
last cedar
Oh, very environmentally friendly
molten osprey
yeah
you'd think the government would do something about this. but then, they need the donations from the big agricultural companies. and those guys dont want to pay farmers enough so they can do this annual turnaround 'properly'.
money. as usual.
clear ferry
ZigBee 4 lyfe
molten osprey
What do you use as a receiver?
Or ... "controller" is what I think the official term is.
Found it for $12 on a local site (owned by Ali). I know. I'm a cheap bastard.
molten osprey
I have the $5 Sonoff stick
molten osprey
it is
clever mortar
ZZH 4lyfe 😛
clear ferry
molten osprey
whats a ZZH?
molten osprey
haha
clear ferry
clever mortar
If you're in the EU then Slaesh is worth a look at, but be aware that many people complain about his customer service (or lack of)
He often goes radio silent for extended periods
I experienced this myself, and thankfully I already had a ZZH so didn't mind waiting a couple of months for a stick to appear in the post
molten osprey
searching ali for CC2652 doesnt yield much
clever mortar
They're complaining on the Z2M Discord about him doing this again
molten osprey
nothing that resembles that picture anyway
Looks like something I'll have to add to my EU shopping list.
So far, I have one Zigbee device. A light sensor. It's ok, I guess.
clever mortar
The Xiaomi Mijia one rocks 😉
molten osprey
wait what
clever mortar
clever mortar
It's almost as good as my much more expensive Z-Wave ones, but at a fraction of the price
The only way to get better is to get a Aeotec Multi-sensor 6, and run it on USB power
molten osprey
I expected the low light measurements to be more granular to be honest
but i guess "less than 1 lux is zero lux"
clever mortar
Low light measurement sucks for all sensors
last cedar
Dark or light? :P
molten osprey
yeah true
When you mentioned the Xiaomi Mijia one, I thought Xiaomi had a CC2652-based controller you recommend
because that i could probably get locally
last cedar
I would like an outside light sensor, triggering outside lighting with time switches is painful
molten osprey
damnit .... i have someone coming from London to Bangkok carrying a bunch of stuff. if only we had this conversation a few days ago!
last cedar
Lux value would be a nice start, then use blue iris and aitool to determine if a person is there, and increase brightness of lights (thinking standard e27 lights that are dimmable)
molten osprey
nice
i was going to put mine out on the balcony
and turn lights on inside based on light values
but ... signal wont reach 🙂
last cedar
Also thinking of number plate recognition for my car/ cars to trigger a welcome home automation
molten osprey
(which is probably because of the shitty controller stick!? )
last cedar
Perhaps yes
molten osprey
plate recognition! NICE!
last cedar
Zigbee might work better there because it can/does mesh
last cedar
May also do a disarm from alarm system to trigger welcome home
hushed basalt
Just use mobile presence detection
last cedar
Yeah, mesh isn't so useful with 1 device 😂
molten osprey
i once had a conversation with an ISP sales person who said I would get a free "mesh router" with my plan. and tried to sell me this as a great thing. I asked to explain how a single mesh router would make ANY difference. they said "it just would".
hushed basalt
I use person state triggers then attach trackers to persons
clear ferry
i once had a conversation with an ISP sales person who said I would get a free "...
It won't
hushed basalt
So you can use ble, wifi, app geolocation together
molten osprey
a mesh of one is like a party of one!
last cedar
My alarm will be seperate though, keypad on door and garage.keypad between garage/house (4 total)
hushed basalt
I just have a virtual alarm in HA
clear ferry
But usually mesh routers are more powerful and have more transmission power
Like the Google WiFi one
last cedar
@molten osprey I was born 87, yes :)
clear ferry
The router covers more then the satellites
hushed basalt
molten osprey
@clear ferry I'm getting a UniFi access point for the wifi
last cedar
Those
clear ferry
🤢 🤢 🤢 🤢
molten osprey
@last cedar That explains that then 🙂
last cedar
The top is a coloured lcd, they look nice
molten osprey
I always forget which of the Scandinavian languages is half-understandable for me. It's not Norwegian. I concluded last night.
Might be Swedish.
hushed basalt
Going to Amsterdam was such a culture shock for me
last cedar
Oh, which is understandable for you
molten osprey
haha, how is that
hushed basalt
Paris was okay,
clear ferry
Most people I meet say my Norwegian accent is easier to understand then most other Scandinavian ones
hushed basalt
Those northerners just have a completely different language structure
molten osprey
@clear ferry you mean you speaking english with a norwegian accent?
molten osprey
@hushed basalt whats your reference? 🙂
clear ferry
No, my specific norwegian dialect
hushed basalt
Australian
last cedar
I have a weird accent, some say I have a slight Gotlands accent. Despite living my first 22 years in England 🦝
molten osprey
right
clear ferry
We have... A couple of hundred dialects
molten osprey
Really
hushed basalt
I just felt like the linguistics was completely different
clear ferry
And we don't do like the Belgians who speak dialect at home and general at work
molten osprey
I think English and Dutch have more in common than English and French
hushed basalt
In theory yes, but that wasn't my experience
molten osprey
We don't like Belgians. Full stop.
hushed basalt
They've just diverged so much. Like atxbyea and his healthy screen time new years resolution
molten osprey
haha
hushed basalt
clear ferry
cedar chasm
I experienced this myself, and thankfully I already had a ZZH so didn't mind wai...
I should balance this out by saying my stick arrived reasonably quickly, considering I ordered during the public holiday season, and it came with a small packet of gummi bears and a smiley in pen on the receipt.
clear ferry
cedar chasm
hot roost
Bought the Argon One case for my Pi. Previously had a 3d printed one with a fan and heatsinks on and it ran about 40c with the fan always on
Now it's running at 25c with no fan 😂
clear ferry
Pi 🤢
hot roost
What's wrong with a Pi
Small, cheap and powerful enough to run HA quickly with io expansion
clear ferry
They are great kids toys, but too fickle for most things
hot roost
🤨
clear ferry
Poor options for storage, fickle power subsystem, and no scalability over time
hot roost
Sounds like wrong hardware for the job tbh
I wouldn't run a media server from them, but for 3d printing, running HA etc they're perfect
clear ferry
I run a pi, but I don't trust the bastard, only running zigbee2mqtt so easy to move though
clear ferry
I work on systems that stay up for 10 years with full load, so I have different standards 
hot roost
Haha well yeah, I wouldn't trust them for that. Like I said, wrong tool for the job
deft pewter
Why don't you have Z2M on a dedicated HPE node? 🤔
clear ferry
Because I'm looking for a EL1000 to run it
Maybe I'll find one soon
An EL300 might suffice too
Vehicle ignition switch integrated in the power supply. This enables automotive development engineers to implement server compute without parasitic loads. Power down timing is customizable in iSM.
Supports a 2x CAN Bus Daughter Card and meets CAN Bus A/B/FD standards. It is ideal for automotive environments.
Noice
deft pewter
You going to make your 30 year old car smart?
deft pewter
deft pewter
I'm sure it was a nice car in its day... but why get something old that isn't even a classic?
clear ferry
That is a classic
deft pewter
It's so ugly 🤢
clear ferry
If i go older the Sport Quattro is interesting
deft pewter
XJ220 would be sweet.
clear ferry
Or the Audi 90
The Mazda Cosmo is quite interesting too, with CRT touch screen
Or the BMW 650csi
forest edge
They are great kids toys, but too fickle for most things
you work with HP products, you should be use to fickle equipment
hushed basalt
Thank goodness I haven't had to see a Norwegian since 2019
deft pewter
Does that mean 2020 was the best year?
clear ferry
hushed basalt
Started watching American Gods s3,
Just watched the first episode, didn't absolutely hate it, so that's a plus over last season.
But my goodness Ms. World's actress can not act
hearty depot
lol, random qoutes
There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don’t believe this to be a coincidence. Jeremy S. Anderson
peak swan
hello
cedar chasm
Cheers Nicholas_,
Are you getting on okay?
deft pewter
If anyone's interested, this week's free game on Epic is Star Wars Battlefront 2 (with DLC included).
Next week's gonna be Galactic Civilisations 3, if any of you are into 4X games.
deft pewter
Bad Lip Reading is the best: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9t-slLl30E
torpid fjord
scenic radish
Thanks @deft pewter
scenic radish
clear ferry
Thanks @deft pewter and @scenic radish
deft pewter
Thank you, @clear ferry for thanking me and @scenic radish
scenic radish
clear ferry
scenic radish
|| @deft pewter @clear ferry ||
blazing dune
oh well, one delete switch is better than none. couldnt figure out how to make the records in mongo into switches themselves 🙂 https://imgur.com/a/Ggwvl5T
night zodiac
🏓
scenic radish
What have I started lol
scenic radish
scenic radish
Nah
clever mortar
deft pewter
https://tenor.com/view/whatever-happens-dont-stop-continue-go-on-harris-dickinso...
Ok
clever mortar
night zodiac
Lol, I in bed. Pinging with phone is a hassle. @deft pewter @clear ferry @scenic radish
I'm having a good morning. Thanks.
My random devices on the wall are so cool and pretty
night zodiac
I just found 5 first gen Hue bulbs. yay, closet bulbs
night zodiac
deft pewter
I love how they call him a cyclist when really they mean child.
I'm gonna be the asshole here and say I'm glad he got hurt. Should teach him not to be a twat on public roads 🤷♂️
Only good part of the video is the car not getting totalled.
This shows how bad I am with CSS. I'm trying to make <figure>s look good and not be full width... only realised today that width: fit-content; is a thing.
wet pilot
heh
deft pewter
deft pewter
I did a couple of years of front-end dev before I got into a back-end role. I'd never go back... and I never want to be a 'full stack' developer.
wet pilot
1. Import Bootstrap
2. Use Bootstrap
3. ???
4. PROFIT
This is even worse... I'm trying out Hugo after seeing someone say it's really easy to get started with.
What they didn't say was that it's really easy to get started with if there's a theme that does exactly what you want already.
I'm already digging around in the templating files to change them... and having to learn their engine in the process.
tidal bronze
@night zodiac what are those wires all over the walls?
deft pewter
I'm gonna guess humidity sensors and stuff.
He's a peasant and didn't get enclosures for them.
tidal bronze
Is it possible to lock volume levels on certain speakers in Google speaker group ?
night zodiac
CO2 and a 7 segment
deft pewter
The 7 segment is to count occupancy, right? I thought you'd need a double panel for that.
night zodiac
:), I set it up to mqtt so I can send whatever I want but obviously showing co2 atm
dusty palm
Hi, hassio newb here, where is the best place to ask basic questions?
calm crow
where would be best place to view peoples layouts/lovelace etc?
calm crow
Hi, hassio newb here, where is the best place to ask basic questions?
in my experience its always best to pick a topic in relation to the help/support you need
deft pewter
Good advice, Jonopoly
deft pewter
where would be best place to view peoples layouts/lovelace etc?
Now take your own advice
velvet horizonBOT
calm crow
perfect thanks bot
velvet horizonBOT
You're welcome
calm crow
is bot alive!
wet pilot
sometimes
clever mortar
So close
last plaza
I’m sure when I actually work from office, the bot will start going down.
clever mortar
low harness
...and everything
last cedar
@clear ferry you had trådfri lights outside right?
Have they ever not worked because of the cold?
clear ferry
Nope
Never skips a beat
I don't do any automation with them though, I use them for coverage extension since I needed to replace all of them anyway
last cedar
I was thinking of sending an illuminate at x% command and maybe go full brightness during motion, nothing more
Thanks :)
clear ferry
Yeah, I did some lol automation for Halloween come think of it
Pulsing the lights up and down when the doorbell rang
last cedar
Sounds cool tbh!
night zodiac
My outside lights are all a single random color every night. I have my porch light on a motion sensor that makes it white and bright as fuck and then returns.
wled segments are neat
I think I can make a drinking game with them and automations
not much fun when there will only be 2 players
low harness
My Trådfri GU10 outside stop working randomly, but that's probably more because they are Trådfri GU10 than because of the cold.
clever mortar
I saw https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/kymklp/til_an_objective_test_found_that_there_was_no/ and was reminded of yesterday's chat 😄
clear ferry
You should see some of the audio stuff I do then@clever mortar
night zodiac
that looks like it is on a dimmer, lol
low harness
But all the bad ones are early ones. The ones I've bothered to replace work great
clever mortar
Oh, I've got a colleague who spends silly money on audio kit... where I'm happy with my basic Sonos Play:1 speakders 🤣
low harness
come to think of it
clear ferry
@low harness I've had that happen after a firmware upgrade, but then power cycled and it's fine, so... Once or twice
night zodiac
my outside ones are Hue colors
twilit flint
has anyone tried to use custom components after the latest update to address security issues?
I still need to use my Wyze sensors, and afraid of them not working after the update
low harness
If the update made any custom_component stop working, that's a sign you shouldn't have used it anyway.
clever mortar
See also #integrations-archived 😉
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Soon, hopefully
We found the offender, and took them out the back for a stern talking to. Their replacement has promised to do better.
low harness
Mynd you, moose bites kan be pretti nasti
twilit flint
my update finished, it looks like the wyze sense custom component still works
so all is well, (I think it's working?)
that's all i cared about
haha
calm crow
i bet its a real conversation starter
deft pewter
I can get the large collection and variety of shapes. I'm more interested in the sanitary processes involved after use.
night zodiac
I am pretty sure these bulbs are about 15 years old, other than the recessed shaped shit
clever mortar
CFLs like those are pretty old tech
Which is scary given that it wasn't that long ago they weren't
low harness
Scary because it sounds like someone we know?
deft pewter
Which is scary given that it wasn't that long ago they weren't
It's all relative, I guess. Us under-60's often struggle to see your perspective 😄
low harness
But really, the difference in time-of-relevance for CFL vs tungsten filament is crazy.
Remember when bulbs used to take like two minutes to reach full brightness, and that made it feel modern?
clever mortar
Hell, I grew up with bakelite light fittings
deft pewter
Liar. You told me that if you couldn't get a fire going, you had to sleep in the dark.
clever mortar
Well, yes, but they created bakelite before I turned 200
The transition from incandescent to crappy CFL to good CFL to crappy LED to good LED has been interesting
deft pewter
Yeah. I'm just old enough to have experienced all of those things. The big push to CFL was when I was young.
clever mortar
I remember the early ones, that'd blink before turning on and fading to full brightness
😬
deft pewter
It's amazing how it's a technology that saves us so much money (via reduced electricity usage) and waste (via fewer burned out bulbs) but mostly goes unnoticed.
clever mortar
It's the heat difference I (still) notice
deft pewter
I used to begrudge paying so much for LED bulbs but they save money in their lifetime.
You mean being able to pull out an LED bulb that's been on for hours without cursing? 🤣
clever mortar
We had some 50w downlighters when we moved in, and I replaced most with LEDs. The ones that I haven't you really noticed, because you get hotter under them 😄
static basalt
Oh man yeah, anyone remember these monstrosities? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFJO3emhOyY
deft pewter
Ah. I can't say I noticed the heat being radiated from them. Replacing incandescent bulbs was always fun if they'd been on recently.
clever mortar
Yes - I replaced one in an uplighter recently, and when I picked up the uplighter, I immediately put it back down 😄
Only trouble is finding high CRI GU10 bulbs with a wide angle and dimmable
night zodiac
i didn't realize these aqara motion sensors had temp o.O
clear ferry
Same here
low harness
They probably "do" in the same way the magnet sensors "do"...
Mine says 30 degrees in a room that's 23.
May be the SoC die temperature or something.
night zodiac
RTCGQ11LM
cedar chasm
I bought that one today.
It had "Occupancy" and 2x Illuminance
static basalt
Speaking of temps on multisensors, I'm quote proud of my Saturday morning project! Room temp in my menubar on my work machine
Sauce
static basalt
I'm using jq here but probably poorly lmao
Thanks @night zodiac, you're right, that was totally an extra step
static basalt
I usually build one liners a pipe at a time and json_pp was giving me pretty json output, instead of curl's one line output
Yeah thanks, saved me an extra cycle every 120s on my work machine
night zodiac
np, stdout solutions are always neat
static basalt
For sure. I've got work experience with bash but almost nothing with rest APIs so this was a fun put together
night zodiac
I have been using mostly httpie these days but adding a dep isn't always great
static basalt
Hmm yeah, I use httpie a lot for troubleshooting but wouldn't like to script with it either
night zodiac
I haven't script with it but it might be neat. they tell you how to do it in docs, 😛
static basalt
Neat. I honestly just like the simple syntax and pretty colors
night zodiac
I use it for the sessions
static basalt
Most of the time I'm on a server where I can't install stuff so I've gotten pretty fluent in wget and curl
night zodiac
I have been automating some things for servers with something called fabric if you haven't read into 'er
it is just a python library that lets you automate ssh command. you can write processing for it that runs on your pc but the needed ssh calls run on the server
and file transfers if needed
It saves me a ton of time for my specific use but not for everyone
static basalt
Nice, I've been using ansible for the same thing for a while
Unless I'm misunderstanding what this is
night zodiac
this doesn't do anything to the other machine while ansible loads some modules to get going
static basalt
Ansible only requires ssh on the remote hosts. It does like to use python on the remote host, which I've sometimes had to update on older OSes, but usually it's fine
I mean, I'm not saying there needs to be only one tool for the job or anything, I've just used ansible a lot in the past
night zodiac
yeah, I haven't made my own ansibles but fabric was ideal for me
I have used ansibles though
static basalt
I have no experience with python syntax either so I wouldn't have gravitated towards fabric
night zodiac
It isn't too different from anything else. 'just lots of googling for me since I don't normally python either. I just let up a linter and make it yell at me any time I get wild.
deft pewter
Just like yo girl
night zodiac
I just overwhelmed my girlfriend by saying I will make scenes for her. I exposed all of our kitchen lights and pulled up wled for her. I think she is about to give up.
deft pewter
You didn't wanna keep her anyway, right?
tidal bronze
Exposed huh 🤔
night zodiac
deft pewter
Those are rookie numbers.
hushed basalt
You should just replace your ceiling with a pixel grid
lunar spire
Where would I ask for help if my home assistant instance booted in Safe mode?
night zodiac
for some reason they decided to build this place with a bajillion lights and siwtches
and I am adding more 😛
just some strips under all of the cabbinets and I am done
deft pewter
Where would I ask for help if my home assistant instance booted in Safe mode?
Where does the topic say?
frozen fulcrum
oh well, one delete switch is better than none. couldnt figure out how to make t...
can you share the code?
night zodiac
@unborn grail did you ever do segments? I set some up and they are neat
unborn grail
Sadly no hadn’t had time. Wife’s got me working on new floors, a window etc etc. I did throw together a fish tank controller last night :p
night zodiac
yeah, haha. I saw it last night. I was playing with my wled setup today and did segments and it is neat
I imagine it'd be cool on your setup
viscid zinc
Hello all, im just started installing HA 🙂 im complety new to it
last cedar
Good luck! @viscid zinc
deft pewter
viscid zinc
Good luck! <@416657722709377055>
THNX
tawny orchid
a trash panda!
forest edge
survived the update! 🎉
deft pewter
All these raccoon gifs make me think there's a lot of crazy Americans out there keeping them as pets. 🤔
Noice. I love GitHub actions. Automated deploys for my blog now.
clever mortar
All these raccoon gifs make me think there's a lot of crazy Americans out there
keeping them as pets
FTFY
deft pewter
No more cleaning, building, uploading to S3 each time I make a change. The hamsters can do that for me instead.
forest edge
at least our tv commercials are sane
deft pewter
If by sane you mean they all end with a 30 seconds disclaimer telling you to check with your doctor before taking whatever it's selling 😄
clever mortar
Those are the adverts? From the length and frequency of them I thought they were the main feature 😛
deft pewter
🤣
20 minute episodes can be a fun format. They just needed something to fill the other 40 minutes of the hour.
It's been so long since I've watched regular TV that I don't know if it's still a thing in the UK... but I used to hate when you watch a late night movie and they interrupt it for the frigging 9pm news.
Schedule movies around things, don't air things in the middle.
clever mortar
Sometimes on the "main" channels, but it's not common any more
deft pewter
I wonder how long it'll be before streaming services make TV completely redundant.
We haven't bothered with 'real' TV for... 10+ years.
Used to just enjoy boxsets of DVDs, now it's all about Plex/Netflix/Disney+
clever mortar
Eh, I like watching random science/history programs
last cedar
@deft pewter that is one heck of a chonky trash panda
deft pewter
Don't be mean! It's on a calorie-controlled diet. It's trying its best.
normal saddle
ive no clue in what channel i should ask this>
Im thinking of going from a VM to a dedicated machine for HA
im thinking between the Hardkernal N2+ 4gb or just get a used intel Nuc,
any advice regarding this ?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️
deft pewter
Where does the topic here say you should ask if you're unsure? 🤔
clever mortar
As the #rules says, read the topics 😉
However, if you're thinking of #330990055533576204 you'd be best asking there
(NUC though, go NUC)
normal saddle
this works aswell it seems 😛
clever mortar
🤫
normal saddle
lemme post that in OS, for future readers ^^
cedar chasm
Maybe a #reception channel would be an idea, if only to try to divert a few more wayward souls from interrupting the #the-water-cooler ambiance of racoon-gifs and Norwegian-bashing
clever mortar
Doesn't matter what you call it, nobody reads 😉
deft pewter
#ignoresrules
Believe it or not, this is something that gets discussed fairly often in the top secret channels the plebeians non-coloured names can't see. There's no ideal solution.
cedar chasm
Secret tier of Illuminati/Freemason channels.
Where lizards rule
deft pewter
I think you're mistaking us with the British monarchy.
hearty depot
I think we have something like this here
cedar chasm
I think you're mistaking us with the British monarchy.
I believe it was established on Doctor Who that the British Monarchy is in fact descended from Werewolves
swift niche
Is there a way to add a spreadsheet on github that people can add information to? I am trying to help with issue 1119 and gather common ( and uncommon) hardware and software to see if I can point to the cause of the Pi4 freezing
clever mortar
Why not create a Google Sheets ?
scenic radish
Why not male models?
swift niche
I know how to create Google Sheets, I don't know how to create it an use it in a github issue.
clever mortar
You'd link it in the issue
deft pewter
You share a link to the Google sheets
swift niche
Is the sheet stored with the issue?
clever mortar
No
deft pewter
GitHub issues don't have embedded, interactive documents.
deft pewter
Is the sheet stored with the issue?
It doesn't need to be...
midnight adder
Ive used good sheets a few times for different issues; this was mainly for various people to collate information about various devices to help determine what is common and what is unique
then we just added a link to the sheet inside the issue
swift niche
That is what I am trying to do. So is the sheet on my drive and shared to all?
swift niche
Thanks. Now another thing to learn
midnight adder
Those links are 2 examples
swift niche
Looks like what I want thanks.
midnight adder
Can you link the issue you are trying to support?
clever mortar
See #330990055533576204 then 😉
clear ferry
Thank goodness a lot of us don't run os then
swift niche
Tinkerer, I don't understand your comment
clever mortar
I was being sarcastic 😛
deft pewter
A lot of people run it on a Pi. I wonder if there's a link.
clever mortar
Freezes and Pis
swift niche
How about OS updates and freezes
deft pewter
I have no idea. I'm sensible and moved off the OS 🤣
I'm just saying... a lot of people that start using HA tend to pick HA OS and run it on a Pi.
They're running server software (albeit fairly lightweight) on a kid's toy.
Why am I getting performance issues?
clever mortar
It is entirely possible the problem is elsewhere, but this is straying well into non-lounge territory 😉
swift niche
Again, I have no performance issues unless I update the os
My lounge question is answered
deft pewter
Yeah... move it along to #330990055533576204
clever mortar
We should get @clear ferry to post their stats just to wind everybody up
dull chasm
no shit 48 cores 1tb ram and 1ptb of storage
midnight adder
i think i am having preformance issues too
I am having performance issues relaxing in the lounge...haha
It reminds me when my wife starts the vacuum during a movie...
dull chasm
im ok just need to get my zigbee shit sorted ....guess i gotta buy this radio for zig2mqtt ....was hoping on the husbux stick with zha ....but no bono
leaden saffron
https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2021/01/14/security-bulletin/
sorry for stupid question, but which addons/integrations are custom?
tame sand
the ones not included in core @leaden saffron
the ones you cannot install without using Hacs or manually adding them as a file
clever mortar
As I said when you first asked, questions about integrations should be asked in the #integrations-archived channel, and add-ons in the #add-ons-archived channel
deft pewter
The hammer hasn't had much use lately, right?
Time to bust it out for people that can't follow simple instructions?
dull chasm
doesnt that take some bullshit soldering or something
deft pewter
You could sodder some bullshit to it if you want.
clear ferry
And supports external antenna if you want to solder, but the built in one covers my whole house and more
dull chasm
any problems having multi radios for sheds and barns
deft pewter
Mods. Tell the mod to take it to #zigbee-archived
dull chasm
nah a couple simple questions dont hurt
clever mortar
That GIF is ... quite disconcerting
dull chasm
i agree
leaden saffron
the ones not included in core <@!754810401803468963>
Thanks, so the add ons listed in supervisor /add-on-store are all not custom. f.e. ESPHOme?
clever mortar
Some are, some aren't
AFAIK the security bulletin has nothing to do with them though
clear ferry
That GIF is ... quite disconcerting
I'm quite interested in who made it, there apparently is some ZigBee fetish out there, and that guy gets off while thinking about meshing and lqi
Oh yeah, finish that interview you dirty little sensor
Report your status
I'm almost there, change routers
clever mortar
leaden saffron
Some are, some aren't
some are and some are not what? custom?
why does this, who are custom, have nothing to do with the security bulletin?
clever mortar
The security bulletin is about Custom Components
The #integrations-archived you add yourself, not the ones listed on the HA site
deft pewter
There's an #integrations-archived channel for all talk about #integrations-archived? Madness!
dull chasm
i have heard a cup of tea and biegnets can help with anger
clever mortar
Depends on whether the cup is big enough to drown the offender in...
dull chasm
gotta start somewhere
dont waste the tea .....drink your tea and have a gallon of water for the waterboarding ...duh
deft pewter
Only a gallon? That's a short session.
clever mortar
Haven't you heard of recycling?
scenic radish
That GIF is ... quite disconcerting
Dude's a fuckin clown
deft pewter
I made sure to get a raccoon emote on the reactions to that announcement for @last cedar. I don't want our raccoon friends to go unrepresented 🤣
And of course that'll kick off another round of people asking questions in here that we don't have the answers to.
inner lava
Still wonder what the reason for the security uproar is lately but I also know these things have to be handled delicately. So props to the HASS team and I hope to read up on more details in a few days or weeks once this is not a concern anymore 👍
deft pewter
Thank you for the most sensible post I've seen so far about it
inner lava
I simply know that revealing further infos now would do more damage than good.
scenic radish
Finally someone who gets it
clever mortar
Here's all you need to know to exploit 42% of the HA servers you find with Shodan
(number picked randomly)
frigid horizon
I mean, is there even anything no-auth-wise that allows you to identify which custom components are loaded...
clever mortar
If the behaviour is at all predictable, then you can just brute force test for the problem
That's how it typically works 😄
frigid horizon
unless you just brute force it on every hass install you find
that said - I'm slightly annoyed they didn't release which custom components were the offending parties.
clever mortar
Well, that'd be "not smart"
Then the bad actor know what to target, and can identify exactly how to target it
inner lava
_Here's all you need to know to exploit 42% of the HA servers you find with Shod...
Wonder, if the HASS instance isn’t directly made available to the internet via “dumb port fowarding” but through a proxy, is this still an issue?
clever mortar
I'd expect possibly so
frigid horizon
And someone just reading the new filtering rules doesn't provide enough info to work backwards and create an exploitable request? 😄
clever mortar
I'd expect _possibly_ so
Unless you do something sensible, like limit what can be done remotely 😉 Like, limit access to only, say, webhooks, in which case it's more likely that you've stopped it
But, we don't know exactly what the problem is
And won't until the blog post is updated
scenic radish
I just solve the problem by not using custom integrations lol
frigid horizon
:/ Custom integrations are far too useful to not be used.
inner lava
Hm, sounds like a very deep rooted thing then. Interesting.
Yep, definitely interested for that security blog post a time from now 👌
frigid horizon
But anyway, as I said - I'm fairly certain that the filtering rules in the code provide enough info to work backwords to create a request that could be used to exploit whichever integrations are offending
clever mortar
Well, we don't know the scope/scale
It may be widespread and deep, or it may be a thing with a very limited exposure, but earth shattering possibilities in those 4 cases
inner lava
Better to take the instance off the web and only make it available via VPN? 😅
clever mortar
Well, the question you should always ask is - do you need to access the UI in a browser when you're away from home
I limit access because I don't
inner lava
App 🤷♂️
clever mortar
clever mortar
I have one re-write, and then rules that allow access to the webhooks and Telegram's webhook, that's it
frigid horizon
my hass instance has loads of webhooks associated with it, but it says they're deleted 🤨
clear ferry
I should try to make a custom component for ipmitool
vagrant crest
good luck making my hass part of a botnet because its a pi zero
peak folio
Ain't nothing wrong with pis
hollow pawn
Anyone have an old pi3 they don't use and want to send over to me in Canada to use for octoprint? Lol
The Canada tax on even older raspberry pi is real!
hollow pawn
Doing great! Thanks for asking! I pop in all the time but don't have much time these days to chat
Home schooling a kindergarten boy is the real deal
clear ferry
We've only had my daughter home for two weeks so far since February 2020, thankfully 😂
dull chasm
@hollow pawn just say it Tink is scary and mean
deft pewter
The Canada tax on even older raspberry pi is real!
That's what you get for having a strong economy and real wages! How dare you!
dull chasm
you mean needing dollars for the medical system
clear ferry
Eh, a r510 cost me 2.5x a raspberry pi shipped from the US to Norway
mortal garden
Kinda reading for these custom components thing for 2 days and still cannot figure it out. Are ALL components are unsafe bc of some issue with the custom components mechanism or it is just some malicious components lurking in the wild? I mean, is it safe to use a component which code I know inside out and I'm sure it is doing anything bad?
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
☝️
mortal garden
Probability shutting off my hass instance know lol
clever mortar
Pfft, if you're not remotely accessible odds of being at risk are likely zero
mortal garden
Yeah, maybe cut off the internet for that machine
deft pewter
Maybe go to the forum thread 🤷♂️
velvet horizonBOT
hollow pawn
What about the 5g's!!
mortal garden
That's funny. First the devs say that the impact can be huge and don't share any details. When folks are worried and assume the worst, post foil hat gifs....
clever mortar
Well, the impact can be huge, but there's no word on the actual risk
If the probability is near zero, you don't need to panic
If the probability is near one, you do
From all that's been said, it's appears that if your HA isn't remotely accessible the risk is zero
If you have no custom components the risk is also zero
last cedar
@deft pewter I platonically love your considerations regarding raccoons ❤️
mortal garden
From all that's been said, it's appears that if your HA isn't remotely accessibl...
Thanks! This is very helpful.
deft pewter
There's also this: #the-water-cooler message
MITRE and CVE both say not to share info with attackers. People are getting awfully angry that the core HA devs are following security best practices 🤯
Actual security matters more than people's feelings.
last cedar
Yes, the whole concept of home assistant is a huge potential minefield for security, I am more than happy that the devs are taking it seriously
mortal garden
MITRE and CVE both say not to share info with attackers. People are getting awfu...
From the bot post: If the information isn't there we can't tell you, because we don't know either.
Also lack of ETA is worrisome at best.
last cedar
If past performance is anything to go by, it will be very soon
The devs have been on fire recently with new releases, and I have no reason to doubt they will sort this any slower than their usual pace
dense glen
I meant what is the context of the leak?
What info?
certain custom integrations
which?
night zodiac
the ones that give you a warning when you try to run them
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
Nobody here can answer the questions you have
dense glen
Besides the devs
night zodiac
these are not the droids you are looking for
clever mortar
And they won't answer here either 😉
dense glen
I get that you cannot tell people the exact nature for fear of people attacking stuff
but the info is not sufficient
clever mortar
Then say that on the forum thread
Where you may just find that others have said that, and that has been answered 😉
oak imp
@dense glen You can look at the commits
oak imp
It's most likely an issue with a specific component, probably SQLi related.
clever mortar
See also #the-water-cooler message
dense glen
Yeah so if it is in the commits why even bother not talking about it lol?
last cedar
I know one thing for sure
clever mortar
Because the bit in HA is to fix what HA can
oak imp
So people don't go searching for vulnerable components?
If it's not a serious issue with the underlying program then it doesn't really matter as long as you update.
last cedar
Custom components involving raccoons shouldn't be trusted, mischievous little hands 🦝
dense glen
The people who are going to exploit issues are not going to be confused by searching through commits lol
dense glen
Skiddies maybe
oak imp
I'd be more concerned if they did this with an issue directly linked with HA, not just a custom component.
clever mortar
What? Move quickly to fix the problem? 😛
oak imp
Skiddies maybe
Of course, how many people do you know actively search for SQL injections?
Most people will just use sqlmap on a publicly known vulnerability.
dense glen
Probably a biased answer given my job...
clever mortar
We will provide more details about impacted custom integrations in the future.
oak imp
Right well unless you're a black hat for a job then there's probably not many actively exploiting HA custom integrations.
clever mortar
Which I'm assuming will be after developers have released fixed versions, and people have had time to upgrade
oak imp
Definitely, and as HA doesn't have automatic updates it's probably going to take some time.
deft pewter
🔨
midnight adder
Greetings all! Can you install a media player on hass os? I’ve got a RPi 400 and I’d like to control playback with the integrated keyboard. Currently running the docker version on raspbian, but I’d fancy the easy access to addons
dense glen
media player as in audio or also video?
You can manually install hassio onto a Pi 4
after installing raspbian or w/e
e.g. installing xbmc / kodi on it alongside
midnight adder
Both
night zodiac
udder
dense glen
I would not attempt to do both on the same device.
But you can probably barely manage it on a Pi4
midnight adder
Is that the supervised install?
night zodiac
do y'all have topics or #general-archived
dense glen
secondary is the larger security worries
midnight adder
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/install-hassio-on-raspberry-pi-4-raspbian-...
Thank you, this should do it!
clever mortar
Please also read the channel topic in #330944238910963714
You should not blindly use that install method 😉
Finally, support is off topic in this channel 😉
dense glen
that method will work but you really do need to know what you are doing
midnight adder
Finally, support is off topic in this channel 😉
Thanks, I’ll ask further questions there!
ember grail
man, I had just installed custom components but hadn't even configured it.
mystic harbor
Greetings all,
I'm wondering if you can send me in the right direction here. I want to create an automation that will play a MP3 through the media player on all of my chromecast.
I am not really sure where I should start with this. Thanks in advance for any direction you can point me in.
Cheers,
Joe
deft pewter
If you're not sure where to start, start by reading topics
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived
velvet horizonBOT
deft pewter
There's info in the topic about that
Or rather, where you should be asking... (hint: not here)
clever mortar
You'd want to be asking elsewhere... like #integrations-archived 😉
deft pewter
Double teaming. Hell yeah.
full cave
biscuits! Apologies, I originally clicked on the integrations channel but made it back here somehow. Sorry 😦
median roost
I forgot my password for some reason - or I got locked out from new sessions (?) but I am still logged into on of my browses? I have tried to reset my password but it didn't work, and I have tried to create another administrator to log in with that, but it does not seems to actully be an administrator even though the frontend says so. Where should I ask to get help?
velvet horizonBOT
clever mortar
☝️ what does the channel topic say 😉
clever mortar
I'm just member number 42 😄
deft pewter
When will it be over...?!
wet pilot
deft pewter
I love/hate creating new AWS services. Got the blog going yesterday after some faffing around with Cloudfront to get HTTPS working with a static S3 website. Added a post today, didn't show up on the homepage 😮
Frigging Cloudfront cache needs invalidating on each deploy to force through changes...
At least that's one more thing I can just add to my GitHub Actions.
night zodiac
using Hugo or anything like that?
green inlet
Where did he go? ||where did Hugo||
night zodiac
Well if you are using Hugo, it has magic to invalidate cloudfront while doing the s3 magics
green inlet
night zodiac
you mudda trucka
deft pewter
Well if you are using Hugo, it has magic to invalidate cloudfront while doing th...
I didn't find anything like that in the container version. I'm happy with GitHub Actions though.
night zodiac
nice!
night zodiac
haha, no blog for me since about 2003-2005 when I was doing big things with image maps
deft pewter
How come all the Hugo knowledge then?
night zodiac
I study all types of things in case it is the right too for the future. I just dig into it a bit, I'm not really an expert on much
I haven't really used it yet
deft pewter
Well... your words, not mine 😉
I went all-in on it when someone said it was easy... they lied.
night zodiac
I have used Jekyll in the past and plan on using Hugo instead for future
deft pewter
I guess it's like any blogging platform... writing a post is easy. Getting the damned themes and templates right is a pain.
night zodiac
yeah, I don't do much UI these days, haha. I stress too much about stuff that doesn't function
deft pewter
Learning all the internal organisation stuff is quite a lot for a newbie, even though I'm comfortable with code. Like which files take priority when you have a theme version and a project version.
Ah, I gave up on some of the UI stuff already... my pictures are responsive but I can't remember how to make embedded YouTube stuff responsive 😄
Doesn't look great on mobile...
night zodiac
like force it 16:9?
my squirrel cam has a pretty barebone example of that
css hax
deft pewter
Nah, aspect ratio is fine. I mean being responsive to different screen sizes.
night zodiac
yeah, I mean you need magic to keep it the same res for when the width can be any size depending on the shit. youtube might handle that for you though
deft pewter
Desktop: http://prntscr.com/x2byyb
Mobile: http://prntscr.com/x2c2hr
Looks even worse on my actual mobile, that's just Chrome dev tools.
deft pewter
SCSS, no framework.
night zodiac
okay, you will want to set up some media queries probably
deft pewter
If I knew what the responsive CSS was from a framework, I'd copy it 😄
Eww. Media queries are nasty. I don't wanna have different rules for different breakpoints.
night zodiac
lol
deft pewter
I need to build an alternate header that's more compact - that's a job for media queries.
Media should just scale.
night zodiac
well to an extent. I size media differently a lot depending on the size
text and everything else is the same
deft pewter
Just found a good example, actually. This works on my browser: https://avexdesigns.com/blog/responsive-youtube-embed
But you shouldn't need to do anything fancy with media queries for text/images/video that's directly inserted on the page. It's the unknown size of YouTube embeds that messes this up.
night zodiac
yeah, I threw a % on my squirrel cam and left it. 😛
deft pewter
Ah... one good thing I've already been playing with in Hugo is shortcodes.
night zodiac
I use bulma for most things these days unless it is something super simple
deft pewter
I want to write everything in markdown without having to inject raw HTML... but markdown doesn't allow target="_blank". Custom shortcode, job done.
I hadn't heard of bulma either until I was already halfway through building this in Hugo.
Might give it a try but I quite like what I've got so far.
Took a theme and customised it to get started quickly.
night zodiac
If you like doing things yourself, look into tailwind
deft pewter
I wouldn't say I like it.
Did a couple of years of front-end work before and would never do it again.
night zodiac
I said that poorly tailwind does a bunch of stuff for you which is why it exists, but not as opinionated as others
why do I feel like I am thinking of the wrong name
tailwind doesn't sound right but does
hearty depot
lol
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/icewhaletech/zimaboard-single-board-server-for-creators?ref=backer_onboarding_series_backingbuying&utm_medium=email-mgb&utm_source=bdev&utm_campaign=bwelcomeseries&utm_content=link&bridge=9b106f2ab4f89ad1a645a0de35ac7e3061e0490eeba20792737676d8e6a37dcf
baked this thing a couple of days ago, 60 bucks bor a x86 with 2 nics isnt bad at all