the-water-cooler

[night zodiac]

sad, my gas meter only transmits data once a day

[clear ferry]

Hwat

That is redonculous

[night zodiac]

my gas meter collects data in 15 minute intervals and then once a day it broadcasts it to my power meter and then the power meter zigbee meshes it away

https://tenor.com/byUuE.gif

[clear ferry]

LOL

What strange nonsense

I get updates every 1-2s

[night zodiac]

yeah, I have been reading way too much into this, lol

https://www.landisgyr.com/webfoo/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/PS_GridstreamM120ResGasModule.pdf

it's a retrofit solution

[forest edge]

might be better to look to an api from the company

[night zodiac]

I tried to find one. They have an internal API I can scrape. I had the same thought, once I realized it's daily

[static schooner]

Lol, I dare you to trace this wire!

[keen bridge]

This is why my nerds nest are rainbows, at least then I know it's the red/blue/purple cable I'm following 😛

[umbral cliff]

Fancy gas meter being smart. One at my parents isn't

[warm yarrow]

Yup, each tagged VLAN gets a color here (and trunks are purple) 🙂 Makes it less insane

[scenic radish]

Seriously. It has no right to go as hard as it does

[tidal bronze]

Anyone running proxmox on Intel nuc 10,11,12 with multiple coral USB pass through?

[dusky plank]

TPU shuffling every time you reboot? 🥳

[tidal bronze]

Not there yet. Run esxi and pass through never worked so running bare metal. Thought of giving proxmox a try.

[dusky plank]

its Austrian, whole world knows we are the best at hypervisors

[tidal bronze]

Yikes proxmox does not support synology active backup 😬 should've checked that to boot. Lol.

That was short lived.

[dusky plank]

it comes with its own backup solution

lets you save those sweet qcow2 on your synology via smb or nfs

[tidal bronze]

Yep was reading NFS data mounts. I handle all snapshots via synology across all esxi host. Thought it would be pnp. Guess not.

[umbral cliff]

They all look like twins

[night zodiac]

they get that all of the time

rtl_433 is pretty neat. it's able to see what dipswitches are set on peoples remote. https://share.busheezy.dev/i/BQ7cmm

[tidal bronze]

Rtl=fun stuff!

[hollow glacier]

You don’t get it?

It’s all the pic of that officer in the news the past few days

[umbral cliff]

I don't get american news, so no

[hollow glacier]

Fuckin funny

[umbral cliff]

Its not been in the news lol

[hollow glacier]

The one who banged the whole squad

[umbral cliff]

Not newsworthy over here

[hollow glacier]

On duty in government offices

Lies

[umbral cliff]

But lmao that sounds funny

[clear ferry]

Nothing wrong with banging the entire squad, but don't do it in work hours

[finite atlas]

its been a great team building event

[low harness]

So if there's a leak your gas company may know in two days?

They'd probably notice upstream earlier, but still

[last cedar]

Doesn't sound like it would be a problem by that time...

Or at least be someone elses problem

[tropic dew]

https://sometechy.website/smart-home/updating-home-assistant-in-docker-from-lovelace-ui-just-like-in-home-assistant-os/

cool concept

[clear ferry]

I think I've actually aquired a tennis elbow by playing too much GoW Ragnarök

[forest edge]

The meter is not what would detect the leak in that regard.

[clear ferry]

Gotta say, the KodeCloud courses on kubernetes are really really good

Just the hands on labs are well worth it

Hmm, need to clean my upstairs desk soon so I can start doing certifications again

[hollow glacier]

Free?

[clear ferry]

For me, yes

[last cedar]

Raccoons and under 18s study for free

https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/10e7dry/my_new_server_rack/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

@clear ferry don't get any ideas

[night zodiac]

lol

[last cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693583922717523988/1064741630655070298/FB_IMG_1673824628602.jpg

[stray lichen]

Ability to send messages test

[clever mortar]

Confirmed messages can be sent

[stray lichen]

@lavish gate Apologies for the channel change. Getting an error in #zigbee-archived when I try to send any additional messages. Not sure why

https://dpaste.org/qsZao That's a lovely little site. Thanks

[clever mortar]

What error are you getting?

I've seen a few new members report problems sending messages, so details would help us work out if Discord are doing stuff again

[stray lichen]

Discord's classic upload failed. Which I'm guessing is some sort of panicked hangover from when I tried to have it convert a lot of JSON to a text file.

[clever mortar]

Ah,so ... upload failed is because you don't have the rights

It's blocked in most channels by default

[stray lichen]

Nope. Discord reboot fixed it

No idea what file it wanted to upload. But it was failing

[clever mortar]

Awesome ... f*ing Discord

[stray lichen]

My guess is: Big JSON text tried to "send as file", that then failed. But due to permissions, didn't display that it wanted to upload it. Which meant a reboot was needed to fix it thinking there's a file to upload

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/awful-idea-grinch-i-have-an-idea-a-wonderful-idea-gif-15543357

[serene gust]

It does look like it may have been pulled. I, too, wish there were release notes that I could get to include in this

[static schooner]

yeah, it's been trying to update to a PIC version ending in .80 for a while now and always fails, both in HA and in their official app

now it looks like they gave up on it 🙂

The only mention of firmware on their site that I could find are for specific issues, which just have "update to the latest firmware version" for the resolution

[clear ferry]

Love stuff without proper release history

[static schooner]

especially when they update as often as they do

and there are as many complaints as there are

[warm yarrow]

I submitted a support request with Whisker (extremely detailed) asking if it was pulled... Today they got back to me with a simple response "you're already on the latest firmware" 🤦

Pissed me off more than it probably should

[clear ferry]

Lol

Fucking hate bullshit like that

[warm yarrow]

Got half a mind to replace the ESP32 and try to get it working in ESPHome

[clear ferry]

If it has an esp it should be very easy

[warm yarrow]

Yep! It sure does 🎉

Done it before with tuya crap. I got dis

[static schooner]

it has an ESP, TOF (time of flight, I guess, for the lasers that detect cats/measure levels), and PIC (interrupt controller, I guess)

[clear ferry]

I am almost done cleaning my office

Jesus Christ

I have so many esps

[static schooner]

I thought I had extras, but had to buy some for my garage door opener project

[clear ferry]

I knew I had some

[static schooner]

wasn't hard to get them

[clear ferry]

But i have found like 30 so far

In all shapes and sizes

[static schooner]

I wanted to use one of the bases that I already have, but of course the ESP board width was too small for the base. Drives me nuts - same thing happened to me last time

[clear ferry]

The niceties of having a 3d printer

Just print a new base

[static schooner]

I don't think you'll be printing one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XHGYPLY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

from a comment there:

These boards are designed specifically for the LoLin NodeMCU boards ONLY. There is a problem with Amazon recommendations (Frequently bought together) that recommends this board and the HiLetgo NodeMCU which does NOT fit this board (too narrow).

pfft

[warm yarrow]

There's never enough ESPs

[clear ferry]

Oh the dev breakout boards

I have a bunch of those

And fitting modules

Great for testing stuff

[warm yarrow]

https://www.reddit.com/r/litterrobot/comments/10cv93j/unable_to_update_lr4/j4qpd9p/

Whisker Software Engineering is working to resolve an issue with the OTA updated server. The update button should be gone now. Please stay tuned for future updates and if you have any questions/issues in the meantime, please visit https://support.litter-robot.com/s/?language=en_US for resources! 

[hollow glacier]

I was told a raccoon 🦝 lived here

[warm yarrow]

Raccoons are under appreciated af

[static schooner]

They're like carp of the land

[mellow parcel]

it's all good till they attack you

kicked my partner a few times sleeping when coons attacked me in my dreams

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-well-hi-cute-gif-15474141

[hollow glacier]

https://sunny1063.com/2023/01/09/the-army-corps-of-engineers-has-released-a-2023-calendar-of-giant-cats-attacking-infrastructure/

[dusky plank]

neat

[clear ferry]

Ermergerd

[night zodiac]

https://hackaday.com/2023/01/13/arduino-library-brings-rtl_433-to-the-esp32/

neat

[clear ferry]

But, we already have openmqttgateway

[night zodiac]

"We were tipped off to this project by [1technophile], who tells us he’s integrated the rtl_433_ESP library into his OpenMQTTGateway project."

https://tenor.com/bUNCn.gif

[clear ferry]

There we go

https://tenor.com/view/beavis-and-butthead-can-you-like-shut-up-silence-gif-11157129

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/xsaK.gif

I tried to avoid stepping on my dog and smashed my toe so hard that I just walked around the house cussing for 2 minutes. I only stopped because my dog was worried so I gave pets.

I did the same thing like 6 months ago and it broke my toe nail in half and it's just now better.

I am doing something wrong.

https://tenor.com/bTLEv.gif

[clear ferry]

LOL

[last cedar]

You are my new best friend

[clear ferry]

That gif

[last cedar]

I need to know who that is

[warm yarrow]

When I was a kid, we went camping every month. Only ever ate sandwiches... Hated those sandwiches.
One day the raccoons came by, opened the cooler latches, and ate all the sandwiches. We had to get McDonald's.
Raccoons and I have been bros ever since.

[night zodiac]

lmao

[hollow glacier]

R/tinder post lol

It’s from today maybe it’s actually the op

[clear ferry]

I've seen it years ago

On reddit

But it always cracks me up

[rapid tendon]

awww yea receipt printer get, now to figure out how to make things happen with it thru hass :3

[low harness]

I broke my pinky toe in the beginning of December. Had to work from home for a week so I could go lie down frequently.

[midnight adder]

I was able to turn my Raspberry Pi into a touch sensor using the built-in CPU temperature sensor. By writing some code to detect when the CPU temperature increased – such as by pressing my finger against the CPU – I was able to trigger an LED to turn on or turn off. Check out the video below for more detail:

hmmmm....

[night zodiac]

o.O

[last cedar]

I would have loved to see that

[night zodiac]

when gpio pins are too much work

[low harness]

https://xkcd.com/1172/

xkcd: Workflow

There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN.

[night zodiac]

My water meter is about to hit 420420. https://share.busheezy.dev/i/Bp3gng

legalize water

[last cedar]

Why not "model: raccoon-ORION" 😦

[rapid tendon]

We get signal!

i have a ugly printout, but it's still a printout!

[bitter pecan]

alright, which one of you guys leaked intel on the f-16 in the warthunder chats

didn't we have a rule specifically on this

[night zodiac]

| sed -E "s/Badger/Raccoon/g" https://share.busheezy.dev/i/w4MTTm

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-love-gif-22198381

[last cedar]

Notice how much betterr the SNR is now?

Raccoons are clearly superior to badgers

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/bVjp7.gif

[clear ferry]

Clean desk, who dis?

[night zodiac]

https://share.busheezy.dev/i/rxwhLA

[dusky plank]

says he runs arch

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-dumb-and-dumber-jim-carrey-g-day-mate-good-day-mate-gif-5609921

[dusky plank]

has a red hat on the desk

runs pop os

[clear ferry]

Hey, i love my booth merch from VMworld

[finite atlas]

:O
you and cleaning?

[night zodiac]

I don't trust it

[clear ferry]

Yaas

I've been throwing out a lot of old stuff

And organizing

[night zodiac]

if you do a 180 you will find a pile that may or may not contain forgotten children

[static schooner]

is that some Matrix-like alternate universe?

[night zodiac]

you ever make any footpedals?

[warm yarrow]

They changed it to "VMWare Explore" now 🙄 bad change

[clear ferry]

Lots

[clear ferry]

Yaaas

[clear ferry]

Eh, it was fine, I missed just as many presentations virtually as in person! And I didn't have to run

[warm yarrow]

DefCon is the real alternate universe. People don't even use their real names (at least I don't)

[dusky plank]

Do people use real names on furry cons?

[clear ferry]

Only in the jiff piles

I learned this word on CSI

In.. 2004?

[night zodiac]

@clear ferry I don't play any instruments but I've wanted to make some pedals as gifts for some reason for a few people I know but I don't know what to do 😛

[clear ferry]

This one is very good

https://www.musikding.de/DSOTM-Fuzz-kit

And this one

https://www.musikding.de/The-Factory-germanium-fuzz-kit

[night zodiac]

thanks!

[finite atlas]

ah ja

musikding

[dusky plank]

https://tailscale.com/security-bulletins/#ts-2023-001/
Tailscale bad. Never tailscale

[golden wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/474362975281610773/1065122571454005340/IMG_0159.mov

only place i could post from what i can tell, but it is stupid how fast these new bulbs are

[forest edge]

sorry was watching the fact you were using a wireless mice as a remote light switch to notice anything else in the video

[golden wing]

lol i couldn't think of a better way to demonstrate than to just hover over the toggle in home assistant and walk out there

[dusky plank]

Just look at hue entertainment for example, they steer multi-segment led strips like its nothing or hardwired

[forest edge]

what's the node id? it's not the name you asign it

[golden wing]

their entertainment stuff must be different to their bulbs because i was using Hue bulbs before, a bunch of latency

i don't think the latency is inherent to any of the protocols hue uses, i think they just "sleep" the devices or something so the initial wakeup takes more time

[dusky plank]

Some id they keep in their backend? Its presented somewhere to you..

[forest edge]

yea some off the wall integer. even if they didn't state the issue was never once used I still wouldn't worry about it lol

[dusky plank]

Hue has some proprietary stuff; while it can‘t control latency much like anyone else they can do separate channels simultaneously for updates and channel switching. Its way better than normal hue as you said

[dusky plank]

Single point of failure, thats what i see when I look at these centralised technologies

[golden wing]

i don't think i'd ever be able to get a hue bulb responding to clicks before they're even released like the Shelly's do

[forest edge]

did you read that whole issues page? I think they did pretty good

[dusky plank]

Zigbee is zigbee, the bulbs all react the same for me 🤷‍♂️

[golden wing]

well i mean that's why i said this

[dusky plank]

Yes, my point is the same though and has nothing to do with this incident

[mellow parcel]

worth it to get zigbee bulbs rather then wifi ones with custom firmware?

[dusky plank]

Any day

[golden wing]

this video was with wifi bulbs

[dusky plank]

Yuck

Wifi bulbs

[golden wing]

what's yuck about it

[mellow parcel]

high energy use; bad pf on th bulbs i have

[dusky plank]

They occupy transmit time. Long live zigbee!

[forest edge]

ignore them lol

[golden wing]

i haven't measured the energy usage of hue bulbs but the Shelly bulbs i'm using are 7-8 watts at full brightness

actually closer to 9 watts

[dusky plank]

I just like to keep my wifi clean and strong 😜 none of that bulbs-calling home stuff

[mellow parcel]

and off?

[golden wing]

obviously they aren't operating on 0

i don't have any rigorous testing devices though

[dusky plank]

So its LIES

[golden wing]

i mean i trust the values that Shelly reports, i take it as "this is how much energy it takes to run the LEDs themselves" rather than "the total usage of the LEDs and controller"

pretty sure the internals are basically just another Shelly relay crammed into a slightly smaller form factor

[dusky plank]

Think about how well your wifi runs with 100 bulbs

[golden wing]

my house doesn't have 100 sockets

barely even cracks 20

[dusky plank]

Pretty sure not as good as having only real network participants in it

It starts with 1

[mellow parcel]

if you want wifi speed use 5g

[dusky plank]

And is another reason people use zigbee

[mellow parcel]

hows zigbee work in highly growded places?

[umbral cliff]

ZigBee my bae

[umbral cliff]

I live in an apartment block and have no issues

[golden wing]

sorry but wireless access points don't care about "real network participants" vs iot connections, at least not for the wireless access point on my network. the thing that matters to a (or my) wireless access point is bandwidth saturation, not the total number of connected devices

[dusky plank]

Oh boy

[umbral cliff]

Well except for a single tuya blind controller, but that's tuya

[dusky plank]

They do care about airtime

Every client depends on it

[forest edge]

you act like the zigbee protocol adds 0 interference to your wifi lol

[dusky plank]

You can set it up to have minimal interference or none at all yes

[mellow parcel]

same as bluetooth; and many other hogs

[golden wing]

i just think that you are heavily overestimating the impact that a few devices sending minimal MQTT traffic has on a wifi network

[dusky plank]

Its Fax

[golden wing]

granted i'm a sysadmin and not a network admin

[golden wing]

i mean if it was as impactful as you say it is, my wifi should be unusable any time i have guests over

they're overloading the wifi!!!!

[shrewd veldt]

Zigbee devices, especially battery powered ones, spend most of their time sleeping. Wifi devices need to constantly send keepalives. If you have a ton of devices, that will add up since the AP can only talk to a few devices at a time

[dusky plank]

See

Facts

[mellow parcel]

just add another access point double up on the noise

[golden wing]

i mean this would be an issue if a handshake took 5 seconds to complete

but keep alive packets are almost instantaneously processed

[forest edge]

those handshakes don't mean anything as long as your network is decent to start with

I couldn't even tell you the amount of diffrent wifi crap I got going and never have any issues

[golden wing]

i just upgraded to the latest unifi hardware

access point was actually an early access purchase

[dusky plank]

It works is different than it works at full speed for everything i have.
And if i go out of my way to get a good AP i want its speed for me and not my bulbs

[forest edge]

if I was to have 300 iot devices and 150 computers with smart tv's phones etc.. i could see the issue lol

[mellow parcel]

i use routers as waps

[golden wing]

i mean if you're trying to do 450 devices on a single access point you're already fucked

[dusky plank]

Lol unify

[golden wing]

lol

[mellow parcel]

and disable all the route satuff

[dusky plank]

You wont get the max speed anyway, i see 😅

[golden wing]

i mean i've done a couple dozen speedtests to verify that i've set everything up the way i want it and it's all working perfectly

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mellow parcel]

nope; never far as i know

i can do gigabit over wifi; but it's slow verses my 10g network

[golden wing]

i've only got a gigabit uplink right now, nothing better available here

[mellow parcel]

sane; but i likr having my server on a fast network; max out inet; and not slow down my local traffic

[golden wing]

i'll report back if i decide to make the switch completely from Hue to Shelly though, see if all that crazy air time usage really does add up!

[mellow parcel]

7 ethernet ports in my system.

[golden wing]

My current setup until I get around to buying enough hardware to justify rack mounting it all

[mellow parcel]

may i recconend a lack rack?

[umbral cliff]

Was about to say that

Lol

[golden wing]

lol i've considered it, but when i decide to rack mount it'll be in an actual rack

[umbral cliff]

Also wow paid for the unifi cables too

Yuck

[golden wing]

usually there are some decent deals on fb marketplace i've just gotta find the will to drive

[mellow parcel]

lack rack blends in with my wooden desk

metal rack not so much

[golden wing]

they're like $2?

at least make fun of me for spending stupid money on something that actually costs stupid money

lmfao

[umbral cliff]

For 0.1m, which is $20 per metre
For $30 you could buy like 50m of ethernet cabling and do it yourself

[dusky plank]

money not stupid

[golden wing]

or i could just add some cables to the order i was already making

[umbral cliff]

I have a unifi WiFi6 AP, and one of their 16port switches with POE
Works well enough for me, about 600mbps over wifi

(From client to local server, not trying to get it perfect)

[mellow parcel]

i've pushes more then a gigabit on my belkin rt3200

[umbral cliff]

I'm not in a perfect location, nor having perfect conditions (eg other network activity also going on)

[mellow parcel]

1.25ish has been my max

[umbral cliff]

For average use case, 600mbps is great

[dusky plank]

rt3200 is 👑

[umbral cliff]

But its belkin 🤮

[dusky plank]

is also available from linksys yuck

just put openwrt on both, they are the same

[mellow parcel]

yeah

openwrt or bust

never oem firmware if possible

[mellow parcel]

on ocassiob rt3200 can be had cheaply

which is why it wins

[golden wing]

fair enough

[mellow parcel]

I've seen it for $50ish

[golden wing]

regardless i don't really see wifi bulbs bottlenecking my network any time soon

lol

[mellow parcel]

add more of them

and then a few more

[golden wing]

i mean yeah that is the plan, and like i said before i'm not really gonna be able to add more than 20 bulbs to my home

[mellow parcel]

i have like 10, 5 camers. numorios other devices

and just as many vm's

[golden wing]

i've just got a few vms right now, i'll definitely start spinning up some more once i can bum some decomissioned hardware from work lol

[mellow parcel]

i want a job i could do that at

decomissioned gear can be good stuff

[golden wing]

well unfortunately right now our decomissioning procedure is kind of vague and i think it basically ends up at "it's all in some room somewhere" but i'm not sure

[mellow parcel]

it's the only affordable way to get 10g network gear

most of my gear is second hand

[golden wing]

right now my vms live on my old laptop

[mellow parcel]

Dell r620 for my vm's

[golden wing]

and when i get around to upgrading the mainboard of my current laptop i'll do something with the current one to host some more

[golden wing]

damn that's some big boy hardware iirc, at least if i'm not getting it mixed up with something else

i think we've got some in prod

[mellow parcel]

and a R720 too

both 64+gb/ram

and yeah I've got both sockets loaded

[golden wing]

I was planning on ordering a brand new R250 in the future, i'd like to get new hardware for power efficiency and longevity

wish they made an R150

i don't really need much, i'm not doing anything crazy

[mellow parcel]

dual psu's have saved me multiple times

but a proper battery backup would have done too

is the power savings worth the extra cost of new hardware though?

[golden wing]

over time probably, along with it lasting longer by virtue of just being new

[mellow parcel]

maybe

[shrewd veldt]

I have a 48 port switch that I got for free, noticed it drew 60W at idle, and bought a used 12 port switch from eBay that paid for itself in about a year

[mellow parcel]

sure; but switches are cheaper then $1k servers

[shrewd veldt]

But you can do a lot with a $100-200 thin client

[mellow parcel]

or buy a server for the same price

[shrewd veldt]

And pay the much higher power costs for the life of it, thereby paying way more over time

[mellow parcel]

depends on power costs

last 5+ years of my life or more powers been included in my rent

[golden wing]

life hack, rent a house with utilities included and move a mining operation in

[mellow parcel]

double life hack rent an office with power included and get a gym membership

and mine crypto for heat

could always be an ahole; and just do dual 40mhz channles on wifi and max them out blocking nmost networks

2.4ghz

can't say it's much better with 320mhz wifi channels they are pushing now; rather then more streams

[upbeat star]

has anyone experienced issues with tuya/xiaomi devices just disconnecting from the wifi for no reason?

All of my tuya devices just did this and I can't figure out why

[clear ferry]

Lol fucking tailscale bullshit

[dusky plank]

That nugget still beats

[clear ferry]

Y'all need any esp?

[glacial knot]

Yes
But first I need my other components

Ohh, they might actually arrive today

[glacial knot]

Please ship 5 without a devboard
Thx

[clear ferry]

Anybody want zwave switches?

I don't need them

[midnight adder]

Do questions regarding HACS belong into this dicsord server? There is a HACS server, but the boards are limited to HACS development and HACS publishing.

[umbral cliff]

Whats your question then

[finite atlas]

i got a i7-6700 desktop pc for free, after adding 32gb ram and 5x 2,5" 1TB HDD's and some power optimizing in linux, it uses only 25W on average

[clear ferry]

sounds about right

and is much more usable than a pi

[clever mortar]

Using things in HACS are here, though not in this channel

[umbral cliff]

I've got a free i7-3770 desktop running as my nas now, 2 8tb drives and a single 500gb ssd cache

Works wonders

[dusky plank]

Mine uses 40W 😢 and i have ssds… but thats OK, its not on my circuit 😅

[clear ferry]

my dual E5-2620 v3 with 128G RAM, 8 internal drives and 4 PCIe cards pulls 95 average

so that is fine

also 6 nics connected

[umbral cliff]

Eyy you've got the same CPU as me

With double the ram lol

[clear ferry]

I need double the memory, waiting for customer to retire some old servers

[dusky plank]

I was thinking of upgrading but energy prices still can go up by a lot to justify that upgrade… and I found out again that the socket and future proofing stuff makes my brain go brrrrrrr

[umbral cliff]

Imagine energy prices going up

[clear ferry]

ours have gone way down so far

like 1\4th

[dusky plank]

That pc actually makes me money

I should upgrade to a threadripper

[umbral cliff]

Mine dropped 30% this year, chose a better plan

Plus no price hikes on the way

[clear ferry]

just wait till the Koalas catch fire in febuary

[umbral cliff]

As long as the solar panels and wind farms powering my state stay alive then I'm fine

[clear ferry]

DJ atx spinning up his servers

and playing synth

and cleaning office

while doing meetings

[finite atlas]

changing the cpu governor to powersave and running powertop helps out a lot, trust me

[umbral cliff]

But then you lose power

[finite atlas]

jokes on you, i'm using it for stuff a pi could do too
but its been cheaper than a brand new pi4

[clear ferry]

BRB pay shitty top dollar for a kids toy

[finite atlas]

oh no how terrible, i loose 5% of performance for a massive >50% power saving, i dont know if home assistant and grafana can even still run on it ):

[umbral cliff]

Eh I prefer performance, especially for $35 extra a year 😛

[finite atlas]

Eh i prefer my 15kWh battery not to drain in 300h but in 600h

[umbral cliff]

Ew battery

[finite atlas]

ew high energy prices

[umbral cliff]

I don't have them, and batteries make no sense with ROI

[dusky plank]

you don't use the W values from powertop, do you? because that says 5W for me 😂

[umbral cliff]

Powertop is normally accurate on a laptop for that

If desktop says that, then lol

[dusky plank]

anyway, it transcodes and serves tv to 20 people, I believe its fine at 40w

desktop powertop says 5W

[umbral cliff]

Lower usage than my laptop then lol

My server estimates this, but is actually pulling 95w

[dusky plank]

ye, a lot of BS

[midnight adder]

My question regarding HACS. I post it here, as long as I think it is OT for other channels:

The HACS GUI displayes two types, integrations and frontend. According to the docs, you can also ship python scripts with HACS. Where do they go?

[dusky plank]

@midnight adder tinkerer already told you that there is no support in this channel

you better go to #integrations-archived

[clever mortar]

Please read the channel topics @midnight adder

[silent dove]

The topic of this channel is:

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived.

If it's a question about the HA Yellow see #yellow-archived, and #330990055533576204 for the Blue. Install related problems go to your Installation Method channel.

No politics, religion, or any other obviously contentious topics! Please ensure you've read the Code of Conduct (https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/), and #rules.

If you found this server and want to know what it's about, start with the web site: https://www.home-assistant.io/

Remember when reporting spam to include a screenshot of the spam and the user's handle (eg @spammer#123)

[umbral cliff]

HACS is an integration in the end

This is the channel for racoons and laughing at @clear ferry

[dusky plank]

@atxbae

[clear ferry]

[midnight adder]

I on purpose use the off-topic channel not to miss the topic of other channnels and I get told OT does not belong into OT. Isn't there something wrong with this kind of culture?

[umbral cliff]

Except HACS isn't off topic, HACS is an integration, thus it goes in #integrations-archived

[clever mortar]

There's no support for Home Assistant here - please look at the other channels for that. If you can't work out which is relevant, start in #general-archived

[umbral cliff]

Troubles getting a Home Assistant integration set up (other than those with their own channel: energy, cameras, voice-assistants, zigbee, zwave, and analytics for InfluxDB/Grafana)? This is the place to be - whether built in or custom
From the #integrations-archived channel topic

[clear ferry]

I bet you are a powertop @umbral cliff

[clever mortar]

Anything HA related is on topic for this server, and so off topic for this channel

[umbral cliff]

Okay that made me giggle

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/qfTP.gif

I'm holding on to three customer elevations to engineering now, while planning an upgrade of a customer environment with 450 switches

if I can make you giggle

that keeps me sane

[umbral cliff]

what did you break

[midnight adder]

Lets see the reations there ...

[clear ferry]

Nothing

customers break stuff, I help them get engineering to fix firmware

[umbral cliff]

Just post in #integrations-archived and someone will be able to help

[umbral cliff]

Ah ID10T errors

[clear ferry]

I love my job, and I just can't fathom people who would work with anything they don't enjoy

like one american guy I'm talking to that wants to retire at age 45, he asked me how much money I would want to retire, fuck I will work till I'm 80 if I love my job

[umbral cliff]

I would retire, if only to have more time to myself to do the same shit but at home

And do some private contracting

[clear ferry]

my job is my hobby and my hobby is my job

I just get paid to do what I love

[umbral cliff]

Thats what I want to end up doing

[clear ferry]

Oh, I found another box of ESPs

Need any @last cedar

[last cedar]

Will any work with cameras for ocr or 7 segment?

[clear ferry]

ESP32cam would probably, but you have to decode it remotely

[low harness]

Sounds like a pai... wait https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/seven_segments/

[dusky plank]

Homepod OG: slow start, production issues, software problems, gets pulled 2 years after release

of course I'm going to buy the Homepod 2, Apple! lol

[clear ferry]

Sheeple

[umbral cliff]

Wish google made a smart speaker that looked as good and worked as well as the homepods

[night zodiac]

I am excited to see what HA does.

I would love low latency voice stuff

FAST

[clear ferry]

The google home medium kinda looks like they took notes and made a halfway recreation

[night zodiac]

I like how cleanly the google minis mount on walls and outlets

[young sigil]

They mount in walls if you throw them hard enough.

[mellow parcel]

LOL

[dusky plank]

My yubikeys did not get sent yet 😢 they wrote end of december

[clever mortar]

They were left under the door mat, so Michelle has them now

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/vỗtay-raccoon-planning-scheming-gif-17259019

[clear ferry]

Seychelles

[night zodiac]

lol

I think here that data would be used to send warnings about usage instead

[forest edge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RbkT7j_X2_8?feature=share

[night zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0csHZveVvY

[forest edge]

way too many smoke

[night zodiac]

lol

[low harness]

The fact it's pretty much useless doesn't make it any less quite cool

Ah. I thought I recognized the accent. That's the jumping pcb guy isn't it?

[night zodiac]

yes

smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack smack

[static schooner]

That is really cool!

[forest edge]

if it was standard and added no additional cost it would be cool

[low harness]

I retract my previous comment. It actually may make sense for very small production runs.

[forest edge]

till you realize it added cost to the product

with no beneficial use to the end user

[low harness]

Yes. But if you have a free unused layer from pcbway and no hot air station and you want to make like five things

It may make sense.

[golden wing]

anyone know of any local control pet feeders?

[forest edge]

sure for personal use.. i mean it's your money

[golden wing]

i've got a PetSafe Smart Feed right now but the integration in HACS is cloud based

[clear ferry]

That is pretty cool

[low harness]

For real production stuff - no way

[clear ferry]

But what a weird accent

Like Italian with Swedish undertones

[night zodiac]

https://www.amazon.com/Aqara-Automatic-Dispenser-Programmable-Controlled/dp/B0B9XZ96PH/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=zigbee+pet+feeder&link_code=qs&qid=1674074545&sourceid=Mozilla-search&sr=8-5&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.006c50ae-5d4c-4777-9bc0-4513d670b6bc

[low harness]

Maltese, apparently.

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/bo2CK.gif

[clear ferry]

That explains why I couldn't recognise it

[low harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uan1b8l3Zjc

[clear ferry]

Never talked to Maltese people

[night zodiac]

I used to do some contract work for a guy from Malta but he sounded very bruv-like

[clear ferry]

That guy was probably from Maltlanta

https://tenor.com/view/howdy-cowboy-vector-gif-5544146

[forest edge]

I paid someone to run cat 6 lines for poe cameras at my moms. 250 a line wasn't bad for that cause they were pretty close to maxing out the range max but that same company wanted 250 to run a short line that was less than 10ft long

something fooked up with that logic

[mint pike]

Custom home assistant App running on the ns Panel pro

[forest edge]

did sonoff finally release the HA compatibility aspect with that?

I watched a video a few months ago where they stated like more than half the stuff that panel was suppose to work with wasn't available yet

[clear ferry]

fired up my lab for the first time in almost 2 months

I have a lot more VMs than I thought

80

And now I'm deploying another one

[night zodiac]

😐

they must be super important

2 months downtime

[clear ferry]

it's my lab

so not at all

[night zodiac]

https://tenor.com/bsbjL.gif

how you remember what the 32nd vm does

[low harness]

Nice

[glacial knot]

Pfft, that's what 20% gets you

[clear ferry]

yas

now I'm 80 though

[glacial knot]

Old fart

[clear ferry]

Y'all missing out here

old man sitting here singing Toto - Africa

[night zodiac]

🧓

[keen bridge]

Does it rain down there?

[clear ferry]

yes

currently changing strings on my guitar

asked an old man for the way

he just said hurry boy

you are gonna love my new strings @keen bridge

[keen bridge]

I strictly play classical guitar 😛

[clear ferry]

I play electric, 12, classical, slide and bass

so far

[night zodiac]

I play Spotify

not even well

[keen bridge]

I need to get a guitar again. I liked classical for the extra spacing, but electric is fun once the calluses have built up

I also want to get a piano again, but I need a bigger house for that

[clear ferry]

Midi keyboard with weighted keys + the ipad you already have

[mint pike]

No but you can easily put your own stuff on it 😄 just need to activate adb and then you can install any android app

[last cedar]

At the same time?

[forest edge]

so the same way the other model had to be done

[glacial knot]

#hangout

[mint pike]

Lot easier if you ask me - you dont even need to open it.. 😄

[clear ferry]

I once played bass, piano and guitar at the same time @last cedar

two hands and one set of feet

[forest edge]

it's not a bad buy, considering the hardware

[clear ferry]

@keen bridge

[last cedar]

NICE

[last cedar]

Centipede?

[glacial knot]

Could have done a triangle as well 😉

[last cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/905530832448524318/1060297497479749792/f95.jpg

[glacial knot]

No raccoon though

[last cedar]

Goodnight everyone, enjoy your doormats last night in its normal place, for tommorow begins the heist of a lifetime

[glacial knot]

Just another 70 minutes, then it's tomorrow

And this train is being slow D:

[keen bridge]

Pretty

[keen bridge]

I'm fussy, I need the right weights in those keys 😛

[clear ferry]

ah, so you are not adaptive

https://tenor.com/R5vQ.gif

[keen bridge]

Not when it comes to pianos apparently 😛

I failed my Grade 5 exam the first time around because the keys were too bouncy and combined with nerves I forgot how to play the piano 😂

[static schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/schroeder-lucy-van-pelt-peanuts-piano-watch-gif-8390140

Looks like instant carpal tunnel

[clear ferry]

how would you rate your musical experience @glacial knot ?

3\5 ?

[glacial knot]

5/7

I was promised singing

[glacial knot]

What's a fithed grade piano player?

[clear ferry]

better ?

[glacial knot]

Indeed

But I'm also almost home :0

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/tVjX.gif

[forest edge]

@static schooner wonder just how many people have done some form of this lol https://youtu.be/77fLeksKe-M

the rice dispenser is not a bad idea tho. kind of like that

[keen bridge]

"Can actually play the piano"

5 is an actual qualification, 8 is "is a really good piano player"

1 is "I can poke at the keyboard and probably hit the right notes"

😛

[clear ferry]

I'm probably a 3

ask @glacial knot

[keen bridge]

https://gb.abrsm.org/en/our-exams/piano-exams/

This is the sort of thing I did, though I mixed between our two major exam boards depending on which pieces appealed better

[glacial knot]

huh, them I'm actually first grade. Assuming I get to count from C 😄

[clear ferry]

Then comes norway

where we have C-D-E-F-G-A-H

[keen bridge]

We do too 😛

Well, sometimes it's H, sometimes it's B

[glacial knot]

B is A#

[clear ferry]

Really

I thought we were the only ones

[glacial knot]

nah, it's standard

[keen bridge]

Maybe it was just my teachers, but I learnt both, and didn't fail any exams for using H instead of B as my answers 😄

But, B is not A#, B# is C, and Cb is B 😛

[low harness]

New students in Sweden learn B. I learned H. So I call them H and Bb to avoid confusion.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/5NLC.gif

[keen bridge]

CDFGA/H are the ones that have sharps to the upper right on a keyboard 😛

[clear ferry]

I should learn the circle of fifths

I've been a musician for 30 years, I know very little theory

30 years guitar, 22 years bass, 10 years piano, 5 years drums

[keen bridge]

You only need 4 chords anyway

[low harness]

I, IV, V and VI7?

[keen bridge]

https://youtu.be/5pidokakU4I

Warning, they're Australian and the video contains words which may not be family friendly 😛

[clear ferry]

Old but good

[keen bridge]

Yup, them and Pachabel Rant are my "introduction to music theory" videos I share with folks 😛

[keen bridge]

https://youtu.be/uxC1fPE1QEE < For anyone who needs the link to the Pachelbel rant

[keen bridge]

My boss would love you. He has a piano behind him and 3 guitars on his wall. And another colleague has 2 guitars, a banjo and a ukulele

[clear ferry]

I have a ballaika here somewhere

[finite atlas]

my triangle is probably somewhere in the attic

[keen bridge]

That's the guitar that looks like a triangle?

[clear ferry]

yes

[keen bridge]

Cool

[clear ferry]

Similar to this

Also, norwegian girl band Katzenjammer play on a huge ballalaika bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcLHIwJzgiw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRuy1rdo4Ws

They are quite good

All multiinstrumentalists

[keen bridge]

I'm not sure you'll fit into those outfits though

[clear ferry]

I can try, but it will be awkward

[low harness]

Go to Hell, Pachelbel?

[keen bridge]

Hehe, he's a cellist. The poor guy got 8 notes.

Playing that piece on an organ is pretty good fun though

[clear ferry]

Norwegian ska is quite good btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2-AM34l9FQ

[low harness]

Another classic music theory analysis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcaPABgew_k

[clear ferry]

Ah, Bill

I want his horn contraption

Also, for those who hasn't seen this one, one of the best videos I've watched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I845O57ZSy4&t=3s

[low harness]

Oh great... now you guys got me into The Newfangled Four black hole again...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BH2CqE5mNQ

I was supposed to sleep tonight 😦

[keen bridge]

What is sleep?

[clear ferry]

Baby don't wake me

[keen bridge]

Thanks for the rabbit hole 😄

[low harness]

Oh God, they sing Avenue Q. I have to stop before this turns really bad.

Good night!

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/trashpandas/comments/10flhow/panda_in_public/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

Doormat heist postponed, I need to get down from here, first

[dusky plank]

how did you get up there in the first place?

[last cedar]

Yes

[static schooner]

Let's focus on the future rather than the past...

[umbral cliff]

"How will I avoid getting up there again"

There we go, thinking of the future

[clear ferry]

That seems like some mindfullness bullshit

[umbral cliff]

Someone has been to a corporate training session

[clear ferry]

You mean three times a year

"standards of business conduct"

[glacial knot]

let's make sure we are laser focused

we. are. a. family.

[clear ferry]

you see Laura handing a business partner 9000 dollar bills, you know we are currently doing business with this partner, what do you do?

A - ask for a 50% cut
B - bonk Laura on the head
C - tell a manager

We have three whole trainings with stuff like this every year

Jesus fucking Christ

[umbral cliff]

We have 4, at least they're online and just easy to click through

Code of Business Ethics

[glacial knot]

B, then A, then A again

[umbral cliff]

Reminds me, I have one of them to do soon, going to do it next week when I can't be bothered doing actual work "Sorry on training"

[clear ferry]

LOL

Yeah ours are online too

I even have to do some ridiculous tax training

Because I might be involved in business deals

Fucking Americans

[glacial knot]

I have to do them twice :/

once on the Alphabet level, once on ours

I like the "please make sure we don't get sued" courses though

[clear ferry]

I love that the level of the trainings suggest I work with a lot of corrupt people who have an iq equal to pi

No wait, i work for Americans

Carry on

[umbral cliff]

We also have phishing, etc training as well (how to avoid phishing). Its pretty easy

Managed to avoid phish tests since they all come with a header that says they're a sample phishing email. So I just filter by that and put them in my deleted email folder

[clear ferry]

hides in 353892 unread mails

Good luck phishing me

[umbral cliff]

Yuck

I have 0

I cannot deal with more than 10 unread

[clear ferry]

Ah, Mr OCD over here

[glacial knot]

I used to have thousands. I have 0 so far at the new job

we have an amazing amount of noise, but still more manageable for some reason

[clear ferry]

When we still did email lists for all internal support teams I could easily get 3-400 emails per day

That's excluding promotional mails and partner mails

[umbral cliff]

Yes

[umbral cliff]

I get about 4-10 a day

And another 5 or so on client side email

[glacial knot]

I get around 100 from our systems doing weird stuff with code changes

[clear ferry]

we moved most discussions off to yammer \ teams \ slack these days

So, yesterday was 31 mails total

[umbral cliff]

Yammer is shite

[clear ferry]

or, 31 discussions

[umbral cliff]

Teams is actually not too bad if its set up correctly

[clear ferry]

so might be 60 mails

I prefer slack

hate yammer

[umbral cliff]

I never liked slack

Yammer is just a corporate social media

Baked onto sharepoint

[clear ferry]

teams is fine, but not for collab, but great for meetings and planning upgrades where internal \ external can share a single sharepoint with files

[umbral cliff]

All of those are better than skype though

Have seen my mum use that, yuck

[clear ferry]

Let me tell you about Jabber

[umbral cliff]

Skype for Business is shite, can't even store message history

[clear ferry]

skype for business is retired now, so hopefully she doesn't

[umbral cliff]

They only just migrated 6 months ago

[clear ferry]

yes you can, SFB stores it in outlook

[umbral cliff]

Its still installed on her computer

And I know at least one other place that still uses SfB constantly

Why do you think microsoft is re-re-supporting it

[glacial knot]

SFB is supposed to be superseded by teams. But 😂 as if MS ever actually deprecated stuff

[umbral cliff]

Oh MS did deprecate it

The companies didn't

And complained

Loudly

[clear ferry]

they shut down the global servers afaik

but customers can run internal ones

[umbral cliff]

They now run support for those clients (like government) who are still using it

Lol 2025 support for SfB

Oh also @clear ferry this is the same organisation (my mums) that upgraded from win 2000 to vista then to 8 then finally to 10

[clear ferry]

L O L

I have one customer still stuck at W7

and I go like

what

at least I haven't seen an NT3.5 server in the last 10 years

[glacial knot]

How much of that happened in the last 3 years?

[umbral cliff]

Only the 10 part

They upgraded to vista about 1-2 years after 7 came out

[umbral cliff]

Airgapped or internet connected?

Since there would be plenty airgapped gov related stuff on 7 lol

Gov upgrade 3 years after something is EOL after all

[clear ferry]

internet connected

dark sites are very good at upgrading stuff

government, not so much

[glacial knot]

I'm sure there's some govt systems running XP with a sepcific version of IE6 for some archaic internal site

[clear ferry]

The same people who buy IBM z10s then

[umbral cliff]

IE compatibility in edge works pretty well

[glacial knot]

is that IE6 or 9? ( I think that was the last before edge?)

[umbral cliff]

It works with 6 i think

[clear ferry]

that doesn't sound right

best regards someone who is old enough to have upgraded to IE6

👶

every time I spin up a windows vm I go like what the fuck, this is like a kids computer

Also, this is probably one of my favorite electronic albums ever, Germs do very good electronica

https://open.spotify.com/album/1BAmE3bdBnxej0umzyHQ5x?si=VHGw29ROTNGuSXSHkRaRjA

[last cedar]

No, how did I get down last time, if I forget that it was difficult, because there might be food there this time

Got 3 jobs at substations today, so hold of posting the stuff @clear ferry it might be a waste 🤣

[clear ferry]

I'll send it today and include condolance letters pre-emptively

[last cedar]

Address:

Pile of ash
Somewhere in Sweden
Sweden

YEAH, I like that

When you hear the buzz outside the room you know you are in for a treat

[strange nebula]

Not completely off topic, but what is one integrations / extension you didn´t know you needed but now cant live without?

[dusky plank]

in #general-archived I'd say the radio browser integration changed my life to the better

[clear ferry]

Hmmmm, I need to get my new drives soon

have to migrate my VMware lab to some other storage

so I can move the SSDs

[last cedar]

NVME?

[clear ferry]

No, SATA SSDs

[last cedar]

No, I was meaning, are you moving the lab to nvmes?

[clear ferry]

No

To rust

[finite atlas]

the good ol' unreliable

[clear ferry]

My Airconsole 2.0 finally died after like a decade

so I ordered an Airconsole LE

bitch has 6-9 months battery life

👀

[finite atlas]

cant it leech its power from the connection?

[clear ferry]

nope

[last cedar]

I got some 80GB IDE drives you can have if you want 🤣

[clear ferry]

[last cedar]

I do have some 600GB 3.5 disks

10k rpm, or maybe 15

Draw about 17 mega watts and heat the entite muinicipality, but you are more than welcome to take them off my paws

[clear ferry]

Wuhu yubikeys shipped

[glacial knot]

Nice

[last cedar]

@clear ferry 1 left, still a chance you can come by and sweep what is left of me up

[clear ferry]

I'll bring a vacuum

[last cedar]

Long hoze, for safety

[clear ferry]

no metal hose that is for sure

[last cedar]

Imagine sending in a poor roomba and it getting zapped

https://tenor.com/view/sad-r2d2-robot-beep-star-wars-gif-5812746

[static schooner]

How am I supposed to work with this?

[clear ferry]

Harder

Faster

Also, why do you have two keyboards?

[static schooner]

I was using the other wired one during my migration of my Linux box to a new SSD and don't need it anymore. It's just taking space now

I needed it + an old monitor to get into the BIOS of my old box

[last cedar]

Give it to me

Would have 5 friends and 1 enemy at our house

[clear ferry]

Baiows

[mellow parcel]

nothing wrong with two keyboard's it's only problematic when you have 4 of em

[static schooner]

I removed the extra one, so now there's more desk real estate for her to sprawl into. But I think pushing stuff out of the way is half the fun...

[mellow parcel]

my sister's cat's would agree

that pushing stuff out of the way and off of things is fun

i have two keyboards in my desk :/

one hidden behind the other

[keen bridge]

Only half? You need to exchange that feline, pushing things off of desks and so on should be at least 90% of the fun!

[mellow parcel]

the lets make my human pick this up is part of the fun too

so they can just knock it back off again

[keen bridge]

Along with "look like I want belly rubs", wait, "too many belly rubs, not allowed!" 😛

[mellow parcel]

some cats like to get gently spanked too

[static schooner]

It can be a fine line, but not really with this one. My other one will gently nibble on my hand after a while.

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-what-gif-21870111

[static schooner]

You can keep doing that, but I'm going to eat your hand. Your choice!

[keen bridge]

Wait, yours doesn't start by just removing all the skin? 😄

[mellow parcel]

I have fish that attack my algee scrapper..

fish isn't happy with the scrapper

swims around watching for it just to attack it

[finite atlas]

not at all, give cuddles now

[last cedar]

What is everyones opinion on the beaver emoji?

🦫

Looks like a squirrel IMO

[clever mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/squirrel-gif-25096048

[glacial knot]

🍑 🦫

[clear ferry]

https://www.theregister.com/2023/01/17/unix_is_dead/

[dusky plank]

I have to scroll again to get to this channel 🤬

[clear ferry]

just hide all the bullshit channels

or tell the @møds to place this on top again

😉

[last cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-raised-eyebrows-smile-smiling-excited-gif-14134261

[low harness]

#the-water-cooler message

[glacial knot]

You just want to yell at people for being in the wrong channel again

[clear ferry]

Enjoy some Norwegian 80s pop

https://youtu.be/b3OUUl9ttTM

[clear ferry]

I don't kink shame you, no need to be mean

[last cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/10g9hxr/introducing_the_new_razer_rgbled_adult_pc_gaming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=share_button

@clear ferry I found your christmas present

[clear ferry]

Yaaas queeeeeen

[dusky plank]

heard you guys like printers
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51fBkGFvaiL._AC_SY580_.jpg

[last cedar]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/693583922717523988/1058070157093777498/FB_IMG_1672333904157.jpg

I am sorry, I couldn't resist

[clear ferry]

I giggled

[glacial knot]

Why giggle?

The Tesla in it's natural environment? (The ditch)

[clear ferry]

Lål

EVs can drive in the bus lane still

In rush hour they have to have passengers though

[umbral cliff]

Why don't you stick your kid in the car and drive in the bus lane then

[clear ferry]

Because the xc90s is a hybrid

And they are in kindergarten

[umbral cliff]

Still a passenger

But ah, makes sense

[bitter pecan]

so i got a chance to
A. test my home assistant / elk m1 fire alarm system setup yesterday
B. use a fire extinguisher

[dusky plank]

How is the robot involved in this fiasco?

[clear ferry]

A fire inside a dryer? What were you doing? Roasting a chicken?

Also, first top loaded washer I've seen in a few decades

[night zodiac]

well....

is your vacuum going to get to work or not

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-you-pass-butter-welcome-to-the-club-gif-9281996

[night zodiac]

gas dryer?

[clear ferry]

Yikes, gas dryer, what a nightmare

[bitter pecan]

innocent bystander unfortunately 😦

[bitter pecan]

according the firefighters, the belt probably slipped off and the thermal fuse didn't blow....fast enough anyways. dryer is 2006 so like not SUPER old but you'd think it'd have a sensor that could say "hey it's getting pretty fucking hot in here"

[bitter pecan]

don't sleep on them top loaders, they put in WORK 🦾

[bitter pecan]

electric

[clear ferry]

Yeah, that sounds horrible, then again, I've replaced my dryers usually every 10 years it seems

[bitter pecan]

they came with the house and were analog which I loved, the less brains the better.

unfortunately in this case, that analog fuse failing to trip was its downfall

[clear ferry]

Based on the design i would have said mid 90s though

[night zodiac]

I keep trying to remember what I wanted to order...

fire extinguishers

[bitter pecan]

YES

[night zodiac]

thanks for the reminder

🙂

[bitter pecan]

fire extingisher on every level of the house

and don't get the 5 pounder

get a 10 or 20lb

that 5 pound didn't do SHIT

gone in 5 seconds

if that

i cannot stress enough how clutch it was i had multiple fire extinguishers in my house

and the nice thing about the big ones is they're refillable....buy once cry once but you'll be glad you have the big boi

[night zodiac]

did you google your dryer to see if other people had the same experience?

[bitter pecan]

not yet but it's a ge dclr333etoww if anyone wants more info on it

[night zodiac]

maybe a bit before thanksgiving

[clear ferry]

I have yet have a fire anywhere I've ever lived, but I have one fire extinguisher per floor and replace them every 5 years

Damn big fire extinguisher is taking advantage of me

[bitter pecan]

the carnage on my front lawn XD

luckily it was raining outside

[night zodiac]

they broke up with you too?

throwing your stuff outside D:

pillows?

[bitter pecan]

pillows and a comfortor

scary part is, i've been drying those for like....years

[night zodiac]

AND a comforter? how big is the inside of that thing

[bitter pecan]

i have....sensitive skin. so i wash pillows like once a month

i think it's like 7 cu ft or something

it's not small i don't think

[forest edge]

you ever clean out the lint and exhaust?

[night zodiac]

I have like 10 pillow cases that I just constantly switch

[bitter pecan]

every time

always clean the lint trap

and the pipe yearly

it's rather short so very easy to clean

[night zodiac]

apparently there is a front intake by the door that can clog?

Idk, I googled a bit

[bitter pecan]

fire started on the inside of the heating coil

air moves weird through it, but you think a thermal fuse would be in there to find it

idk how hot dryers get normally though

but i guess start a fire hot is an option

[night zodiac]

I feel like air quit moving over the coil and it got super hot

[bitter pecan]

could very well be

[night zodiac]

I have never had a dryer able to hold a comforter AND pillows, lol

[forest edge]

he said the belt broke. the belt drives the fan that moves the air

[bitter pecan]

don't the fans attach to the drum? so like if the drum stops spinning, so does the fan?

[night zodiac]

"probably"

[bitter pecan]

i can't confirm 100% the belt is dead, just what the firefighters said

haven't done an autopsy yet cuz it honestly smells like hell in the laundry room rn

[forest edge]

what was in the drum that caught fire?

pillows?

[bitter pecan]

pillows caught fire

[night zodiac]

3 pillows and a comforter?

or 2 pillows

[clear ferry]

It's a TARDIS

[night zodiac]

that's what I am saying

THAT IS SO MUCH STUFF

I have to take my blanket out and fluff it half way

[bitter pecan]

it was full, but not anymore full than i normally pack it.

and not nearly as full as it HAS been before lol

[night zodiac]

3 PILLOWS AND A CONFORTER?

[clear ferry]

I have never washed a pillow, so idk, I have washed duvets due to kids wetting the bed though

But never more than a single duvet alone

[bitter pecan]

yeah, bought a new dryer afterwards.

9 cubic feet

ain't fucking around now

[night zodiac]

D:

[bitter pecan]

my progression throughout the evening XD

fire > new dryer > fire extinguishers

[clear ferry]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-o-hai-did-someone-call-me-gif-12423373

[forest edge]

well be glad you were home when it happened.

[bitter pecan]

very much so

[forest edge]

about the only use the smart ones have. being able to be remotely turned off lol

[night zodiac]

I've had taco bell, water, fedex, and usps all here within an hour. busy morning.

dog is on high alert

[forest edge]

you have taco bell door dashed?

[night zodiac]

as opposed to driving there myself?

yes, almost ordered mcdonalds but got tacobell breakfast instead

[forest edge]

sounds like playing russian roulette to me

[night zodiac]

like being messed up or what?

[forest edge]

yea. taco bell is one of the few more frequent one that screw up an order. not to mention I don't think they seal the bag?

[night zodiac]

your taco bell screws up orders

[forest edge]

ALL fast food screws up orders

[night zodiac]

I should have said "more frequently"

the bag was not sealed but my food was in the bag

[forest edge]

another aspect to russian roulette lol

putting a lot of faith in your delivery drivers

[night zodiac]

not really. you're making it sound hard to be a decent person

[forest edge]

just don't go listening to the news

[night zodiac]

my food goes through many hands I never see. I'm not going to be worried about the few hands I do see.

[forest edge]

brave man

[night zodiac]

scared man

[forest edge]

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-news-now/delivery-drivers-admit-bad-behavior-in-poll/

damn right lol

[night zodiac]

"The poll was contracted by Circuit Route Planner, an app that helps find the shortest and fastest routes for delivery drivers who make multiple stops."

[forest edge]

there are clips about the same thing all over the country

that was just the first thing that popped up

[shrewd veldt]

If you're worried about what a delivery driver might do, don't ever eat at a restaurant either because most kitchens are filthy

[forest edge]

filthy from use and what a driver may do to your food is two diffrent things

[dusky plank]

just happened to see my robot vacuum on a camera, lidar has some pretty cool effects 😎

[clear ferry]

Was it pink Floyd?

https://tenor.com/view/laser-cat-gif-20542672

[night zodiac]

https://v.redd.it/dsm79naymuf81/DASH_720.mp4?source=fallback

[static schooner]

umm, how do you know that isn't the cat's eyes?

[forest edge]

what you talking about? that cat is blind from all the exposure, it just uses that thing to find it's way to the litterbox

[forest edge]

this made me chuckle a little https://youtu.be/Jl0-Yu3KZDI

[tidal bronze]

@static schooner what did I get myself into 🤣 automating recirc became a rabbit hole.

[static schooner]

Yep! I spent a long time tweaking and rewriting all the pieces multiple times

[forest edge]

what other simplistic parts of life are you going to overcomplicate next?

[clear ferry]

hmmm

wanted to use stream in nginx

with ssl_preread

so I could do both ssh and https over 443

but that was not as easy as I thought

[silent dove]

@clear ferry I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

[clear ferry]

screw you bøtt

[forest edge]

@static schooner you ever get that LR update thing to complete?

[static schooner]

Today, yes

[forest edge]

did you initiate it from HA or the app?

[wet mulch]

1

[static schooner]

I did it from their app. It still keeps spinning forever, but eventually I went back and it was updated

[forest edge]

yea I had done it from the app as well. HA still shows an update for it, but maybe that takes time to update. not sure