plugins-dev-chat

[soft depot]

jeez michio what'd you do

[restive turret]

🤣

[true quest]

yo gng can someone globally banned still issue bans and do sl server related stuff

idk where to ask that

😭

[frank mica]

[2026-04-20 20:45:36.151 -04:00] [ERROR] [LabApi] System.TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 0100000d from typeref (expected class 'System.Runtime.CompilerServices.NullableContextAttribute' in assembly 'System.Runtime, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a')
                                   at (wrapper managed-to-native) System.MonoCustomAttrs.GetCustomAttributesDataInternal(System.Reflection.ICustomAttributeProvider)

System.TypeLoadException: Could not resolve type with token 0100000d from typeref (expected class 'System.Runtime.CompilerServices.NullableContextAttribute' in assembly 'System.Runtime, Version=10.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a')

any idea what this means?

i thought it could be because my .dlls were old from the update(s)

but doesnt seem to be the case

fairly cryptic because the plugin compiles fine

[potent ridge]

💀

[somber dagger]

I guess you could use one of the support channels?
Ion know if that's really the main topic here

[true quest]

they removed the tickets

I think

idk who cares

[true quest]

for csg

[somber dagger]

Might fall under "Requests related to the in-game server list (Server Verification/Reporting/Geolocation)" or #discord-support

If it falls under that first one, they provide a direct link presumably to an email in #technical-support (but not #discord-support ??? weird)

[frank mica]

related to ICommand somehow

removing all references to ICommand makes the plugin load fine

[static meteor]

Dont use .Net10

[frank mica]

have to use .net10

cant use 4.8 because 4.8 isnt supported on linux

i doubt .net10 is even part of the problem

well

[soft depot]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wtf-bruh-he-doesnt-know-RXtD0Rt2xrUxIvJYkP

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-kick-son-loaf-gif-12981317445950641633

[versed wadi]

Is it possible to allow 079 to listen and talk on the radio?

[cosmic echo]

It is though

I lowkey forgot how I set it up tho

You got dat twin

[frank mica]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-damage-cat-hammer-bonk-kitten-gif-17025947340241767034

bruuuhhhh

[static meteor]

I just installed .net10 and i had net48

[frank mica]

i straight up dont have it 😭

using rider

[cosmic echo]

What distro

[frank mica]

endeavoros (arch)

[cosmic echo]

Peak

Ask like

Gemini

Or some shit

I ain’t remember how I set it up on arch

[frank mica]

ai slop

i want human slop instead

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-hentschel-kick-son-loaf-gif-12981317445950641633

[frank mica]

bruh like every source i've seen so far straight up says 4.8 on linux doesnt exist

because it requires bumass windows libraries

or like

idk other stuff

:3

[cosmic echo]

It absolutely does

Alternatively just use the dedicated server’s mscorlib.dll

[frank mica]

wharg

[tranquil river]

Solution 2: Virtual machine hell

[static meteor]

Yeah i installed .net10 on mint and it came with net48

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041063282435428433/1370222627687235646/togif.gif

[frank mica]

what does the package look like on mint 😭

[static meteor]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/linux?WT.mc_id=dotnet-35129-website

[frank mica]

the dotnet packages i have installed

dotnet 4.8 is noticably missing :(

[frank mica]

isnt this building with dotnet 10.0?

[static meteor]

no its using net48

afaik it is

[frank mica]

i dont see anything about net48 in the build?

[static meteor]

ThaumielMapEditor -> /home/baguetter/RiderProjects/ThaumielMapEditor/ThaumielMapEditor/bin/Debug/net48/ThaumielMapEditor.dll

[frank mica]

nvm

just saw it

interesting

so what net48 is just like a hidden part of net10?

confusing

[upper vapor]

Very realistic quadsuit

[upper vapor]

It is supported

[upper vapor]

Basically

It's bundled with .net 8 sdk and up

[pulsar locust]

You can also just use mono msbuild

Although mono is currently a bad place because development jumped ship to the wine organisation instead of being Microsoft backed now

[upper vapor]

Why would you do that to yourself

[pulsar locust]

So it can build 4.8 projects, run 4.8.1 (because it's the same runtime version) but not build 4.8.1 projects

[halcyon kite]

Use mono

sudo pacman -S mono

[frank mica]

why cant scp sl update to like
a version people actually use 😭

[halcyon kite]

<PropertyGroup>
<TargetFrameworkVersion>v4.8</TargetFrameworkVersion>
</PropertyGroup>

[halcyon kite]

Unity uses mono not dotnet

As from what I know

[static meteor]

You can also use dotnet

[static meteor]

^

[halcyon kite]

Then msbuild in console

[upper vapor]

https://discussions.unity.com/t/path-to-coreclr-2026-upgrade-guide/1714279

[unique crane]

Oh right, it's our fault that Unity uses it after 20 years

Sorry man, we will update it right away

[upper vapor]

i thought your display name was homophobia

[upper vapor]

what the dog doin

[upper vapor]

alternative solution: kill unity

(RELOAD THE SCENE ALREADY)

[halcyon kite]

Port Scpsl to unreal engine

[royal mica]

real, switch to godot

[halcyon kite]

Or cocos2d

[upper vapor]

❌

s&box

[royal mica]

i can get behind that, if you leave bhop in

[upper vapor]

what's up with their licensing thing

i think s&box has released on steam already

[unique crane]

Yeah uhm

It's paid

[royal mica]

Releases on 28th

[upper vapor]

right

just in a week

[unique crane]

Or at least the game is

[royal mica]

yes the game is paid

[unique crane]

The engine is still open sors

So I guess you can build stuff for free

[royal mica]

but I think there is no additional license to publish a game with s&box

[upper vapor]

i really hope so

[unique crane]

Yeah they did that

[upper vapor]

on steam a least you will be able to publish games

[unique crane]

Cause paid engine would be ass^2

[upper vapor]

dunno about other standalone builds

[upper vapor]

indeed

[royal mica]

https://github.com/Facepunch/sbox-public/
They kind of have an MIT license

[upper vapor]

buuuuuuuuuuut

that doesn't include source 2

[royal mica]

it just the layer on top of S2 yeah

[upper vapor]

(for redistribution at least)

also i hate how

bootstrap.bat

is a btach file

[frank mica]

just lock in teehee :3

[upper vapor]

what the fucky

[unique crane]

No comment

[frank mica]

lol

[upper vapor]

have you got it to to work

[royal mica]

I understand why, you can do ps, sh or any atp

[upper vapor]

yeah but like

ugh

[frank mica]

i havent been working on it for a bit but i'll update when i do ^^

[upper vapor]

they should totally switch to dotnet run build.cs

[upper vapor]

and whoever decided that there should be spaces between parentheses

they are worse than all humans combined

[frank mica]

it works now yeey #1495965876749598881 message

[hearty shard]

im the best

thanks besties

ok now what do i add to secretapi

do i source gen brainrot into all secretapi plugins

[icy knoll]

waiting for extension methods for classes that use the Create method over constructors

[hearty shard]

guh

[icy knoll]

mentioned this ages ago

instead of

Pickup pickup = Pickup.Create(...);
pickup.Foo = Bar```

you can do

```cs
Pickup pickup = Pickup.Create(...).WithFoo(Bar);```

[upper vapor]

WithAmogus(true)

[restive turret]

OMW to add another useless stuff into LabApiExt

[warped prairie]

IsImposter(true)

[celest thorn]

Ok i'm incredible but have so many issues rn, i wanted a pipeline to connect the proxy (for sl) to all of the SL servers, which i found with the sending mirror packets with a specific id, but now i find the other side of the medal how tf do i send packets from THE proxy to the server and vice versa as a sort of exchange the only problem is i cannot do that nor if players are online nor if other stuff happens, so it becomes a crucial situation where if i wanna know i can connect a player without spamming preauth of the server i cannot

[celest thorn]

because as of rn, the server tries

[upper vapor]

use websockets

[celest thorn]

ig i could

[fathom charm]

Hi. Does anyone know what might be causing the issue where the number of players is displayed as /0 and it is impossible to track players while in spectator mode? (Second screenshot in spectator)

Restarting sometimes helps, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes reconnecting to the server will help.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper vapor]

if this is client-side, ask #technical-support

[fathom charm]

Hm... I think it's not just me who has this problem, but some other players as well, but I'll ask the question. Thanks.

[upper vapor]

uhhh

might be a bug report then

[fathom charm]

If that were the case, I think there would already be reports. I suspect its a local technical issue with the plugins, i'll need to look into it. thx

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[upper vapor]

probably

the player log should have some exceptions that help us (client-side)

any LocalAdmin logs?

[fathom charm]

Unfortunately, they're not here it would be so easy, yeah..

[upper vapor]

huh

[fathom charm]

Hm

[restive turret]

check LA and Player log file

[teal junco]

I had a fire idea for a plugin

Gotta make it

[icy knoll]

Motivation = gone

[teal junco]

Nah Ill get it trust

Havent touched plugins in a hot minute is there anything massive I need to know

[upper vapor]

double and give it to the next person

[upper vapor]

DisplayKit is on the way

that's

kinda it

[hearty shard]

15.0 will break all plugins*

[teal junco]

I regret not asking them about facial diversity for humans that day

[hearty shard]

theyre releasing secretapi as the new modding framework

[teal junco]

Display kit is gonna be fire

[hearty shard]

labapi is obsolete

[teal junco]

Wow awesom!!

[upper vapor]

eveil

[teal junco]

Interesting news

Okay I wil just program in basegame then :)

[upper vapor]

back to nwapi 😭

[teal junco]

NwApi 👎

[upper vapor]

yeah that's

that's basegame programming

i should revive NWAPI ngl

[unique crane]

Looking for new a LabAPI maintainer

[upper vapor]

xdd

LabApi.NorthwoodAPI project added

[hearty shard]

its fine we'll just make david maintain it

[languid temple]

No clue if someone have answered this or not but the answer is no. Globally banned person cannot hold any staff position at a verified server

[unique crane]

Ill use you to maintain it

[hearty shard]

nuh uh

get away

[unique crane]

no

[true quest]

if its a plugin that bans ppl?

so

[hearty shard]

if a global ban has access to that plugin and can ban via it, then thats just trying to bypass

😭

[unique crane]

?

Global banned != server banned

[hearty shard]

i assume its like when you ban through cedmod

which

[upper vapor]

they wanna use ai to ban ppl

[hearty shard]

still counts as acting as staff

[true quest]

it's something like cedmod

[upper vapor]

the person issuing the ban is responsible for that, yeah

[unique crane]

Yeah that sounds like staff role

[hearty shard]

[celest thorn]

guys how do i get global banned and beat the allegation?

[upper vapor]

Don't you dare hurt allegation

[celest thorn]

i'm beating you

[upper vapor]

❌

[celest thorn]

nah too much violence

i'm not eve

[upper vapor]

You're getting taken out of context

[celest thorn]

what

i need to 1v1 context?

[somber dagger]

I must ask - why does LabAPI not throw when a plugin is out of date?

Recently had a situation where a user installed the incorrect version of EXILED - and LabAPI silently ignored Exiled.Loader.dll instead of throwing or logging any errors.

Also, can this be fixed? Users should be informed, at minimum with a warning - that their plugins failed to load

[mild ice]

It should throw an error to console if a plugin doesn't load

[somber dagger]

Weird - it's possible this version of EXILED used a different version of LabAPI, but even so shouldn't it warn if there's a DLL in there that won't load since it's from a previous iteration?

[hearty shard]

they throw an exception

unless you make it silent somehow

[somber dagger]

Looking back, I do believe the user mentioned the folder extracting to a "pluginapi" -- not familiar with this, but I assume that was the previous framework. Regardless, this has happened to multiple users at this point

[hearty shard]

yeah uh PluginAPI is outdated by like

50 years

[somber dagger]

I can send the logs, one second

[mild ice]

It's possible it failed silently (without an exception), or wasn't installed correctly in the first place

[hearty shard]

well the thing is

it wouldnt load

if it wasnt installed

[somber dagger]

Yeahh, I get it - but the old EXILED repo is still up with all its files 😭

[static meteor]

NorthwoodApi

[mild ice]

Ok it sounds like they're putting the dll in the wrong directory

[hearty shard]

^^

[somber dagger]

Nah, they moved it to the new directory and it didn't throw any errors

Lemme get permission from the user real quick, hold on

[hearty shard]

thats run by a completely different team

also

LOL

@mild ice https://github.com/Exiled-Team/EXILED/commit/a111bf4fd1658711868abe32784a421f22a49784

xd

[somber dagger]

It's actually archived -- LabAPI should probably throw if it tries to load a plugin it can't, no?

[hearty shard]

idk

i dont think its archived

[hearty shard]

i mean

if the plugin

isnt a plugin

then it wont load

[somber dagger]

Did not see that, weird

[hearty shard]

because theres no plugin to load

😭

i dont think labapi does anything if a file has no plugin

which in that case... well thats a user error

[somber dagger]

True, but you've gotta be checking the directory somewhere - and if there's a file in there that doesn't fit, maybe warn?

[hearty shard]

it doesnt do anything if the file has no plugin

thats it

if you install smth that isnt a plugin, thats not on NW

Lel

[upper vapor]

SECURITY ALERT

Somebody is trying to execute malicious code while attempting to stay hidden!!1!1!1

[somber dagger]

I understand the current functionality, I'm recommending further functionality to prevent users from silently failing

[somber dagger]

This is perfect, precisely up to spec

[upper vapor]

We don't warn for older minor version differences.cuz it doesn't really make sense
There.would be a lot of log spam

[hearty shard]

nono

thats not the issue

[upper vapor]

Ik

[hearty shard]

the issue is that there is no plugin

😭

[upper vapor]

But like

Originally it was about why doesn't it warn if the plugin is old

[somber dagger]

In that case, maybe a verbose option to identify errors easier - assuming you're trying to keep it minimal generally

[restive turret]

huh

[somber dagger]

^

[somber dagger]

^

[hearty shard]

tldr:
why does labapi not throw exception when a file has no plugin

[restive turret]

if the plugin works and access informations that can work with older version it still works

for example a simple hello word plugin in 1.0 should work in 1.1.6.1

[hearty shard]

aka you throw a .dll in and it has no Plugin

[restive turret]

thats a dependency then

it will be loaded as deps I guess

[hearty shard]

yes

[hearty shard]

i mean

not actually

it should be

[somber dagger]

Not the issue - the plugin itself failed to load silently despite being in the directory, and a user of it had to go to a support server to figure out their plugin was outdated

I do definitely agree that minor version changes shouldn't require a warning, but if the plugin is from, say, a different framework or a different time period (pluginapi or wtv) a warning would be nice

[restive turret]

then it wont load any further than be inside the unity loaded assemblies

[hearty shard]

actually yeah it does do that

[restive turret]

how the hell would LabApi check if something made with PluginApi or exiled ? and WHY would it check that?

[royal mica]

I frequently use the fact that it only searches for *.dll and only if contains the approprate class. I just rename something to .dll.DISABLED I want it to be disabled

[restive turret]

it also check sub directories now too

so

[hearty shard]

slime

[restive turret]

yes

[hearty shard]

why does InitializeWrappers get called from

PluginLoader

[restive turret]

what

[hearty shard]

that feels weird

[restive turret]

refrashe

[hearty shard]

static partial void InitializeWrappers(); // The contents of this method will be generated by Source Generators

this is in PluginLoader

[restive turret]

ye? and

[hearty shard]

and is called by PluginLoader.Initialize

[restive turret]

ye?

[hearty shard]

which feels weird cuz its not loading a plugin

[somber dagger]

There's gotta be override differences - it'd just be for user convenience, to hint users onto the correct path if they try to install the unmaintained EXILED that depends on pluginapi

[hearty shard]

anyway

idk

[restive turret]

PluginLoader.Initialize called when Server started

silly

[royal mica]

What about omni-plugins, that has both EXILED and LabAPI endpoints?

[languid temple]

Why does a non-staff person has permission to ban people?

[hearty shard]

grrr

[hearty shard]

WHAT

ok who does that

😭

[restive turret]

not my issue that people using another framework and or outdated one

[somber dagger]

True actually, this was mainly intended for PluginAPI based plugins - but yeah checking for EXILED may be complicated. I assume there's an error being thrown somewhere when they try to load it, they're just not using it - right? Given your previous solution worked

[restive turret]

thats like saying why SMOD still not supported

[royal mica]

I feel like this is a PEBKAC issue tbh

[restive turret]

Since it doesnt find the actual content there it will just skip doing any loading

[somber dagger]

Again, it's just a matter of user convenience - it's preferable that the main plugin API, run by NW has checks for extremely old versions of their own API and informs the users that they'd need to update, if possible

[restive turret]

https://github.com/northwood-studios/LabAPI/blob/3f2705fda20a412109272c033b90b9c7d13204d6/LabApi/Loader/PluginLoader.cs#L456

NWApi no longer pushed along the game since 14.0

[somber dagger]

If it's already there, then adding a warning would help a lot with issues such as these

[unique crane]

No, we will not support warning/error messages if you try to load NWAPI plugin now

[upper vapor]

"Succesfully loaded XYZ.dll"
Observe no "Loaded plugin XYZ"
Boom

[unique crane]

^

If plugin did not load, you wont have them in loaded plugins

And enabled

In console

[upper vapor]

They should be nuked

[upper vapor]

1 in 1000000000 edge case

[restive turret]

In here it even support having multiple plugin endpoint, OR none at all.
It does not really concerned if not found any good types in your plugin

someone who do modular plugins would go crazy when it will say "Assembly 'balls v1.0.0.0' does not have LabApi plugin class" like 10 or more times

[true quest]

so the guy was creating an alternative to cedmod, then he allegedly got globally banned for doxxing

but he still have access to his panel and still does bans through that

as eve said it, evading ban

I think he got a 1 year ban

and idk If I should report the server that it's allowing that or the person that got banned

[hearty shard]

server

ig

its the server allowing it, breaking the CSG

[languid temple]

If he has any permission regarding the server even if it's remotely he is seen as a server staff

3.2. No globally banned user can act as a Server Owner or Server Staff.

[hearty shard]

yo can we ban eve

save her from this game

[grand flower]

Just quit, trust me EVE it's the best thing you'll ever do

the freedom you get is amazing

[restive turret]

you have to do everything yourself from near to zero so

[hearty shard]

tbf i already quit, excluding secretapi

im only here cuz i enjoy some of the people

and cuz im too nice to abandon secretapi

[grand flower]

I don't think EVE wants to make an SCP game lol

[grand flower]

that's fair

[hearty shard]

yea

[restive turret]

well even if not a game nor an SCP game

[hearty shard]

im doing other things

or well

[grand flower]

based

[hearty shard]

id like to

shits not going to plans

cuz life is getting in the way

[grand flower]

Besides me going a little crazy by rewriting a Steam plugin from scratch is also because I needed it and it'll be nice to have in my portfolio when I look for additional clients

[hearty shard]

me wanting to rewrite harmony

and then giving up

I will in the future maybe idk

[grand flower]

I feel like Harmony's a little useless to rewrite considering how good it is and used by everyone, no?

[hearty shard]

but

but

how else do i show my lack of self respect

:(

[grand flower]

I mean hey if you wanna rewrite it for fun or training

Don't let anyone stop you

[hearty shard]

one day

when i can be arsed

and know how tf C# works

[grand flower]

sounds fun

[restive turret]

eev

[hearty shard]

never

[grand flower]

I'm rewriting mine because the base stuff is shit

[hearty shard]

slime

when r u giving me ur organs

or or

working for free

trust

[restive turret]

you should tortorute youreslf with src gens

[grand flower]

are you having a stroke

[hearty shard]

um

[restive turret]

no

[hearty shard]

you can do it for me

thanks budd

[restive turret]

just fat fingering buttons

nuh uh

[hearty shard]

i lowk still need toinstall linux on laptopn

but

[restive turret]

you should start doing learning Source gens

[hearty shard]

i got distracted

and now i cba

[grand flower]

learn C++

[restive turret]

hell no

[hearty shard]

you gave me reasons not to

[grand flower]

One of my fiancée's nephews turns 9 this month and wants to become a game dev, so I've got him a nice "coding with Scratch" book to get him started

[restive turret]

even as still doing my some stuff with C++ I still consider myself as I didnt learned c++

[restive turret]

I stared wtich Scratch 2 too

or 1 i dont remember

[grand flower]

If he goes through with it and shows a real desire to become a game developer I'll probably offer to mentor him

[royal sinew]

Anyone know which protocol is used for the preauth handshake? I'm trying to debug a strange networking issue on the SCPSL client running under Proton and I only have a packet capture of the behavior to go off of. I looked on the list of transports for Mirror, and I don't think it's KCP, Ignorance, or LiteNetLib.

[restive turret]

It's lnl but the preauth is different

[royal sinew]

is it a proprietary protocol?

i see the steam user string in the packet along with a lot of other data

[royal sinew]

Nevermind, it's a double NAT issue. Totally unrelated to Proton, but still weird that this one specific server's proxy is the only one that can't tolerate double NAT

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/guh-gif-25116077

[restive turret]

Lmao

What kind of plugin or whatever you did lol

Never seen such a thing

[static meteor]

I havnt messed with auth at all

Oh my

[restive turret]

Lol

[static meteor]

This is the largest log ive seen that wasnt a ddos

It was MeowDebugger breaking one of my patches

[plain gazelle]

How would i get the LightSourceToy (Wrapper or AdminToys) referance from a gameobject?

[static meteor]

Its a component

[plain gazelle]

Just the AdminToys one or also the Wrapper?

[static meteor]

AdminToys

[plain gazelle]

thankies

[thick bobcat]

trygetcomponent

[barren pasture]

I have a peculiar problem. People are randomly being kicked from a server I develop for, and I believe I found the plugin. The biggest issue with this issue, is that it doesn't give me any insight whatsoever as to the cause of kicking the player. AKA the server says nothing, local admin logs say nothing, the player doesn't get given a reason, and there is no reason provided in the client console. This is the plugin I believe is causing issues, can anyone help?
https://github.com/ProjectNetworkDevelopment/CustomFramework-SCPSL

[turbid spoke]

does anyone here know where I can go to do some paid plugin work or where i could like post about it (i dont believe this server has something for that)

i dont wanna use the exiled server since i have basically no experience with it

[upper vapor]

One minute of silence for this :((

[upper vapor]

🗣️

[upper vapor]

Another L to false advertisers

[upper vapor]

Just un-nat yourself

[upper vapor]

Check the Player.log (run log.bat in the client's game dir)

There should be some exception

[teal junco]

do you guys think that exploding humans would be fun

with custom gibs and blood bits using rigidbody

[upper vapor]

[barren pasture]

NetworkClient: received Message was too short (messages should start with message id)
PollingLoop stopped
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at Mirror.LiteNetLib4Mirror.LiteNetLib4MirrorClient+<>c__DisplayClass9_0.<OnNetworkReceive>b__0 () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0
at Mirror.LiteNetLib4Mirror.LiteNetLib4MirrorTransport.LateUpdate () [0x00000] in <00000000000000000000000000000000>:0

What the fuck

[upper vapor]

Crazy

[barren pasture]

I don't mess with packets tho? Why would it be doing this to me?

My best guess is that Player::SendHint is doing something, but idk what

[upper vapor]

Is there any other send call?

[barren pasture]

Not that I can think of, but I'll look

There is only one in my entire solution.

[celest thorn]

I had the same exact issue

couldn't find why

[barren pasture]

Did you ever get it fixed?

[celest thorn]

no

because it happens

[barren pasture]

Well, shit

[celest thorn]

and it happens even on the server

proxy

no matter what i do

so

and even if the packets aren't malformed

[barren pasture]

Well, I kinda need to fix this because it's causing issues on Silly Site

[celest thorn]

can you send me code?

or something

[barren pasture]

Code for?

[celest thorn]

i could try and looking into it

[celest thorn]

wahtever you are doing?

[barren pasture]

Oh the stuff causing issues

[barren pasture]

Code is at this link

[celest thorn]

class?

i'm helping here while waiting for tomodachi life :3

[barren pasture]

Somewhere in the CustomHintSystem I think (might have the name wrong but idk)

CustomFramework folder

[celest thorn]

this system is really

simple

you use player.SendHint

you don't even use mirror anywhere

lol

FpcServerPositionDistributor_RoleSyncEvent

[barren pasture]

No, and that's what is making me confused

[celest thorn]

only here

[barren pasture]

Well, yea

[celest thorn]

Is it a client issue?

[barren pasture]

Yes

[celest thorn]

because i have the same exact problem

which i didn't have

and it randomly happens

[barren pasture]

Could the role sync be the issue? I ain't disguised when the issue happens.

[celest thorn]

i know its not me or the server

[celest thorn]

If i give you a patch

could you try and replicate it

let me make a patch to extract stuff before they get sent

[barren pasture]

Replicate the issue?

ALr

[celest thorn]

so you know what is being sent

🧠

[barren pasture]

Thanks

[celest thorn]

nw :3

[barren pasture]

Stuff that I'm not big brain enough to do lol

[celest thorn]

namespace Lala.Patches;

using System.Reflection;
using HarmonyLib;
using LabApi.Features.Console;
using Mirror;

[HarmonyPatch]
public static class SendingMirrorPatch
{
    private static readonly string[] IgnoredMessages =
    {
        "CommandMessage",
        "RpcMessage"
    };

    public static IEnumerable<MethodBase> TargetMethods()
    {
        var packMethod = typeof(NetworkMessages)
            .GetMethods(BindingFlags.Public | BindingFlags.NonPublic | BindingFlags.Static | BindingFlags.Instance)
            .FirstOrDefault(m => m.Name == nameof(NetworkMessages.Pack) && m.IsGenericMethod);

        if (packMethod == null)
            yield break;

        foreach (var method in GetPackMethodsFromAssembly(typeof(ServerConsole).Assembly, packMethod))
            yield return method;

        foreach (var method in GetPackMethodsFromAssembly(typeof(NetworkServer).Assembly, packMethod))
            yield return method;
    }

    private static IEnumerable<MethodBase> GetPackMethodsFromAssembly(Assembly assembly, MethodInfo openGenericPack)
    {
        foreach (var type in assembly.GetTypes())
        {
            if (!type.IsValueType)
                continue;

            if (!typeof(NetworkMessage).IsAssignableFrom(type))
                continue;

            yield return openGenericPack.MakeGenericMethod(type);
        }
    }

    public static void Prefix(MethodBase __originalMethod)
    {
        var parameter = __originalMethod.GetParameters().FirstOrDefault();
        if (parameter == null)
            return;

        var messageTypeName = parameter.ParameterType.Name;

        if (IgnoredMessages.Contains(messageTypeName))
            return;

        Logger.Debug($"[  Sending: {messageTypeName}]");
    }
}

here

it should log everything except CommandMessage and RpcMessage

which are probably the worst thing to log because they fucking get used so much and abused i would say

you can remove by that name some of them

like distributor one

and so on

[barren pasture]

My log file is about to be the biggest on my computer

lmao

[celest thorn]

lol

my miis are broken ;(

fucking hell

[barren pasture]

lmao

now the "coroutine" is throwing errors because I'm not in a list. This did not happen before.

Had to close my server because I couldn't use visual studios lol

[barren pasture]

-# It's because I'm stupid. Absolutely nothing new.

What I find interesting is that the server starts sending messages before players can join.

[celest thorn]

btw

i think it is client side

i'm having again the same issue

and got brought back to the menu

[upper vapor]

Just remove that shit from your computer

[celest thorn]

^^^^^

i agree

jetsbrain supremacy

[upper vapor]

Is there an NRE in Player.log for you or just the malformed packet thing

[celest thorn]

nope

[celest thorn]

and same as this

[barren pasture]

Nah, I've been using visual studios too long

[upper vapor]

[celest thorn]

this time it crashed as soon as it set the health

[upper vapor]

Lamest excuse

[celest thorn]

[celest thorn]

When you setup rider there's an option to import from visual

so no excuses

btw WHY IMPORTING MIIS is SO HARDDDD

i wanna play tomodachi life with peter griffin

[barren pasture]

BTW, the sizes of my last 4 local admin logs. The last two are with the patch lmao

[celest thorn]

the patch sends EVERYTHING

so

[barren pasture]

ik lol

[celest thorn]

I could add so much shit

i saw someone even importing 096 from miitopia

but it DOESN'T WORK

[barren pasture]

tbf, I knew going in that the files were gonna be pretty damn big compared to normal.

[languid temple]

I'm curious though like what's the genuine problem with visual studio?

I've been using that for like 5+ years atp, never really had/noticed any problems

[upper vapor]

1. It's shit
2. Slopilot
3. IntelliShit
4. The UI is straight up just ass
5. Not enough refactorings
6. No smart inspections

[celest thorn]

it consumes rams, its full of bloatware none needs, its fucking slow asf, intellisense sucks ass, no help, no better shit for configuring it, and no way to debug threads and so on

[upper vapor]

Also the fact that it gaslights you into not being able to change the C# version in some projects

The inline completion is buried in settings, no obvious way to turn it off

[languid temple]

Oh yeah I had to like redo entire backend project because of that

[celest thorn]

oh and the coolest of them all

creating templates is easy asf and really well done

[languid temple]

couldn't update packages because it killed itself

[upper vapor]

Just use Rider
It's free for non-commercial use

[celest thorn]

just switch

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[celest thorn]

when you setup rider

it shows even to import changes

[languid temple]

ráadásul ágazati vizsgára volt

XDDD

[upper vapor]

Oh that's so cooked

[celest thorn]

translate :3

https://tenor.com/view/joey-swoll-bath-playing-dinosaur-buff-gif-974433150749411319

[languid temple]

elment vele kb 2 honap

szarakodas

utána feladtam

[upper vapor]

It was for the final exam of the "profession" subject

[languid temple]

uh

yeah

[upper vapor]

Like the big project for the final year of CS

[unique crane]

Your too spoiled by jetbrains

[languid temple]

rider is done by jetbrains ye?

[unique crane]

True programmers use text editor and command line

[upper vapor]

Yep

[celest thorn]

yes

[languid temple]

😭

reminds me too much of python

[upper vapor]

You're just jealous cuz it has good features that you refuse to use

[languid temple]

and pycharm

[celest thorn]

it reminds me of java

dw

[unique crane]

You will never take me alive!!!!!

[languid temple]

I'll try it I guess when I get home

[celest thorn]

that's why i chose it because their intellisense for java was amazing

ngl

[unique crane]

Eclipse ❤️

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274617943258566726/1494817963210051635/ezgif-493fbcd92850590c.gif

[celest thorn]

compared to eclipse being ass

[upper vapor]

Eclipse -> IDEA was one of the best decisions in my life

[celest thorn]

auto save

[upper vapor]

YES

[celest thorn]

i cannot go back

[unique crane]

Boooo

Lazy

[celest thorn]

java projects auto save

[languid temple]

too bad vs only has intellisense for c# and nothing else

[celest thorn]

is a savior

[celest thorn]

another good reason to switch

auto save of the files

omg

like how much it saves you

[languid temple]

I constantly press shift s

[celest thorn]

i still do

[languid temple]

so not really a problem for me

[celest thorn]

but its amazing

[languid temple]

yeah guess I'll try when I get home

[celest thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324517539853897738/1490262114743353486/togif.gif

vs is like this old man

[languid temple]

I have to update the token validator anyway

[upper vapor]

Sorry that I wanna save time on refactorings
Sorry that I'm warned where <inheritdoc /> doesn't apply
Sorry that I can spot obvious nullability problems with the help of the IDE
Sorry that the IDE renames members properly instead of half-assing replace all

[unique crane]

@languid temple KILL

[languid temple]

eha

wha

[celest thorn]

what are you on?

kill tung tung?

[upper vapor]

SSSS

[upper vapor]

Yes

[unique crane]

Preferably

And delete

There will be no brainrot in this channel

[upper vapor]

@languid temple can I post the uh
It's orbver tung picture

[celest thorn]

They asked people this question: if triple t gives you a house, would you accept it?

[languid temple]

david might murder you

[upper vapor]

Yeah xd

[upper vapor]

No

[celest thorn]

wtf you mean

orban?

[upper vapor]

Yes

Xdd

[celest thorn]

can you send it in dms

[languid temple]

őt ne

[celest thorn]

or is it orbover

[upper vapor]

Viktover

[celest thorn]

best shit i've ever seen

AI is probably the greatest invention for memes

it gives idiots abilities to do shit

and its just perfect

its like a balance

[languid temple]

narancsos bukta xdd

[upper vapor]

Ew orange (the fruit)

Mandarin is better

[celest thorn]

why you needed to specify the fruit

[upper vapor]

(Not the language)

[celest thorn]

lol

[languid temple]

True

[upper vapor]

[languid temple]

mandarin is goated

[upper vapor]

YES

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1416464650199105679/1493929521571823666/RDT_20260415_1302203926174718678146119.gif

[celest thorn]

i have a production of those lol

next to my house

they give it to us for free

both orange and mandarin

[languid temple]

mandarins?

[upper vapor]

They produce Chinese?

[celest thorn]

yea

its common here

[languid temple]

mandarin tastes best in the winter

[upper vapor]

Except when its mags are still there

[celest thorn]

idk i don't like them that much

[upper vapor]

Wtf is mag

Seed

[languid temple]

seed 😭

[celest thorn]

i use oranges to do my loving orange juice

[languid temple]

XDD

[upper vapor]

Reloading the seeds

[languid temple]

reloading the mag

[celest thorn]

i'm sorry but i don't drink coffee i drink orange juice

i'm still a kid (im 19)

[languid temple]

wait

that means something else

[upper vapor]

Yeah

[languid temple]

homemade?

[celest thorn]

yes

[celest thorn]

.

[upper vapor]

What the hell is wrong with you
Why do you drink oranj

[languid temple]

you wanna mail some to me?

[celest thorn]

yea coffee makes me sleepy

[celest thorn]

if you want i think they would get spoiled tho

[upper vapor]

That's not uncommon

But oj sucks

[celest thorn]

https://www.visitsicily.info/en/sapore/sicilian-blood-oranges/

[languid temple]

I just finished my monster and I'm already eepy

[celest thorn]

we produce both the blood ones and normal one

[languid temple]

and I still have a programming class

[upper vapor]

Location leak

[celest thorn]

White monster doesn't make me sleepy

[celest thorn]

i live in the mountains, none can find me

its not even in the maps my city

so

[languid temple]

I'm drinking mango loco atm

[celest thorn]

I love pink and white ngl

[upper vapor]

That's an important clue

[celest thorn]

its not

[languid temple]

I have 3 diff pinks at home

[celest thorn]

strawberry

omg

[upper vapor]

P, panic, I, I'm scared, N, nauseous, K, death!

[celest thorn]

i love strawberries

[celest thorn]

lol

its about to be the season for strawberries here

i'm gonna eat so many of them

I need to make a gif "Scream if you love strawberries"

[unique crane]

Facts

[celest thorn]

Strawberries unite the world

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/stolbewwy-strawberry-cat-lick-cat-eating-strawberry-gif-11822407654675278206

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-eating-monkey-eating-strawberries-kardie-gif-gif-22488578

[celest thorn]

ngl i wanna share my recipe here

[upper vapor]

Can't tell if this is real ngl

[celest thorn]

for like something so good

a sandwich with Emmental, Honey, toasted bread and strawberry

this shit is fire

[restive turret]

If it's like mixing 3 coke 2 hell and 2 shot of vodka i decline

[unique crane]

What

Mobile typing..

[celest thorn]

Honey and cheese togheter are perfect

[restive turret]

I eat strawberries alone with sugar

[celest thorn]

strawberries just are perfect with the taste of both

[celest thorn]

i do that too

or with nutella

[restive turret]

My lactose intolerant ass don't like cheese

[restive turret]

[celest thorn]

i'm so sorry for you

i don't think i could live with being lactose intolerant

[upper vapor]

Real
Diabetes

[celest thorn]

i prefer shitting myself

[upper vapor]

We have to rebel against the lack toes and toddler ants

[upper vapor]

😭

Nah

[celest thorn]

than not eating fucking burrata and so on

[unique crane]

What

[upper vapor]

Burrata

[celest thorn]

yes

[upper vapor]

@languid temple a búrám ta

[celest thorn]

this

[upper vapor]

Wtf

[restive turret]

Wtf

[celest thorn]

its so good

[upper vapor]

That's like

[celest thorn]

a mozzarella

[upper vapor]

Cheese wrapped in cheese

[celest thorn]

type

[upper vapor]

Cheese²

No

[unique crane]

Cheese wrapper

[celest thorn]

this is how it looks like when opens up

[upper vapor]

4/3cheese³*PI

[restive turret]

I would say túró wrapped in cheese

[upper vapor]

Right

Still cheese

Cottage cheese

[restive turret]

Yes

[celest thorn]

its

like

[upper vapor]

Turbo rudi >>>>

[celest thorn]

butter inside

that's why its called burrata

[upper vapor]

What

[celest thorn]

burro is butter in italian

[upper vapor]

That's not butter

That really doesn't look like butter

[celest thorn]

yea no its like butter

[upper vapor]

Are you comparing cottage cheese to butter? 😭
I mean they're both from milk but like

[unique crane]

That does not look like butter

[celest thorn]

no

its like butter

because of how it spreads and so on

its called like that

because of this

[upper vapor]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ha76gkXt5vo

Figure it out

[restive turret]

What kind of butters do you have man

[upper vapor]

Gross, probably 😭😭

[celest thorn]

when butter gets melted it becomes liquid

[upper vapor]

Groß

[celest thorn]

and that's how it is the burrata

[restive turret]

I know that but

[celest thorn]

like its really good

[restive turret]

Why

[celest thorn]

I didn't make the name

[upper vapor]

Xd

[celest thorn]

they explained it

they called it like that because of that

idk

[restive turret]

Bruh ig

I still wouldn't eat it

[celest thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burrata

here

i would kill for one of this

[restive turret]

Also

Why every Italian food pic has tomatoes and leaf next to it

[celest thorn]

because usually we just eat it with that

this is the original recipe

lol

[restive turret]

Eat that with a tomato

Wtf that more bizzare

[celest thorn]

i'm just asking here

horse meat

on god

so amazing

i've heard so many people saying i'm a monster

idc i love that shit

[upper vapor]

At this point just eat túrógombóc

Cottage cheese ball

[celest thorn]

i remember i ate something in hungary

[unique crane]

😐

[celest thorn]

that was sooo goood

it was like a soup

with a rice ball

[upper vapor]

This is goated

[celest thorn]

YESSS

this are so good

[unique crane]

What is that

[celest thorn]

i'm not joking lol

[static meteor]

The american mind cannot comprehend what this is

[unique crane]

I guess you are that hungry

[celest thorn]

its tradition here

[upper vapor]

"I'm so hungry I could eat a jorse"

[celest thorn]

it cost cheaper than alot of meats

[celest thorn]

WE ACTUALLY EAT THEM

[upper vapor]

Muh burger

[celest thorn]

Only in sicily

other part of italy don't have them

or they are super expensive to eat

horse meat balls

[upper vapor]

Cottage cheese wrapped in fried(?) dough
You can add powdered sugar as topping or eat it with cinnamon mixed with sugar and something
Liquid sugary cinnamon

[celest thorn]

had them like this sunday

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-so-hungry-i-could-eat-a-horse-gif-14846126166432336122

[upper vapor]

XDDD

[static meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-vent-horse-flipping-off-horse-middle-finger-middle-finger-gif-3042883306930952990

[celest thorn]

i said to my friend who is a big fan of the umamusume, and he is from sicily

[upper vapor]

"-dog"

https://tenor.com/view/white-dog-shaking-scared-nervous-dog-scared-and-shaking-gif-22874221

[celest thorn]

bro would you like taste the umamusume

[upper vapor]

(China reference)

[celest thorn]

i think they would be like crazy good

[upper vapor]

Umamusume

Ts is like

[restive turret]

Yes

[upper vapor]

Caveman word

[celest thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umamusume:_Pretty_Derby

its horse girls

[rustic pecan]

Great cheese

[celest thorn]

nah burrata is amazing

but

like

mozzarella

[upper vapor]

I thought it was a food

[celest thorn]

i mean i can ask my dad if humanoid horse girls

are good to taste

idk

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/afraid-scared-spongebob-nightmare-anxious-gif-17742018

[celest thorn]

he would probably think i'm going insane

[upper vapor]

He might already know that

[celest thorn]

true

[celest thorn]

btw wanna share something with you

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352310355300454551/1495450824292302878/togif.gif

by atsomeone

[upper vapor]

Trueing

[upper vapor]

What the

[unique crane]

Why am I not surprised

[celest thorn]

lol

[upper vapor]

Petition to rebrand "only in Ohio" to "only in Sicily"

[sweet flax]

https://tenor.com/view/komik-gif-14211273463614358620

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-swoll-bath-playing-dinosaur-buff-gif-974433150749411319

[languid temple]

huh

[upper vapor]

Scroll up

[languid temple]

ugh

message link? 🥺

[upper vapor]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[vestal oracle]

@cosmic frigate sos

[upper vapor]

What

[royal mica]

wha

[upper vapor]

salty

(sos)

[worn gull]

wh

[upper vapor]

w

​

[inner citrus]

Lmao

[upper vapor]

that checks out

[snow ruin]

@celest thorn You got anything out of your researches if you did any

[celest thorn]

for what?

[snow ruin]

The game freaking out when a round time is very long

Basically the game set everyone to 0hp and set the round state back to lobby

and everyone is frozen

idk if theres a way around

restart is needed every X period of time id say

[restive turret]

ye dont let the round very long

[snow ruin]

Is there no way around to fix this ?

[unique crane]

I would say this is more of mirror limit

It just wasnt designed to run endlessly

its not that big of a deal to make Cron restart server at 3am

[snow ruin]

yeah we are doing that already

it has been running the round since 6am

so id say 14 hours round time is the max

[static meteor]

Have the server restart the round if theres no one online ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[teal junco]

Do you mean round time?

Bro

We do not need SCP SL mega events

It should be easy enough to program a system that saves the entire game state and recreates it with a round restart

[upper vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1175455327957831811/1272272872840106046/media-iv-text.gif

[green remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/protogen-we-cannot-recover-from-this-veroxide-ragdoll-physics-gif-15195213965263297230

[upper vapor]

why do they reset

[unique crane]

https://tenor.com/view/toaster-arena-toaster-arena-chees-cheese-gif-8078124899665074608

[green remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/jenga-bricks-kid-crash-rozpierdol-gif-21433393

[unique crane]

I have 14 hours on toaster arena

XD

Silly proot TDM

or FFA

[upper vapor]

i've yet to play that gayme

[upper vapor]

jenga max

[celest thorn]

on what?

[restive turret]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1142810/Toasterball/

Steam

Toasterball

A ball, two goals, and... toasters! Welcome to Toasterball.Toasterball is a multiplayer physics-based sports game, quick to learn and perfect for good old game nights on a couch with friends (1-4 players local multiplayer). Because you are playing as toasters, you can naturally expect some chaotic physics, random situations, electrical ha…

Price

$2.99

Recommendations

309

[unique crane]

no

toaster arena

[restive turret]

thats a

nvm

[celest thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/pyra-tea-estrogen-xenoblade-gif-26256251

[upper vapor]

a

[sinful bronze]

b

[worn gull]

c

[tulip kiln]

d

[terse bone]

e

[soft depot]

f

[dull timber]

g

[plain gazelle]

How do the drawable line system work?

Does this draw lines for everyone?

[restive turret]

Use server

[sharp hedge]

whats the event for finishing interacting with an interactabletoy?? these dont work

public void OnSearchedToy(PlayerSearchedToyEventArgs ev)
{
    Log.Info("SEARCHED");
    Log.Info(ev);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable.GameObject);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable.GameObject.name);
}

public void OnInteractedToy(PlayerInteractedToyEventArgs ev)
{
    Log.Info("INTERACTING");
    Log.Info(ev);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable.GameObject);
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable.GameObject.name);
}

this does work though but it isnt what i want

public void OnSearchingToy(PlayerSearchingToyEventArgs ev)
{
    Log.Info("SEARCHING!!");
    Log.Info(ev.Interactable.GameObject.name);
}

[static meteor]

If the InteractionDuration is 0 it will trigger OnInteracted otherwise it triggers OnSearched

Works fine for me

[sharp hedge]

oh

this does not work for me

i changed it to OnSearched and the duration is 1

the toy is in a schematic from project mer and tracks the player using sl wardrobe but i dont think that helps

[frank mica]

Unable to register command 'SubcommandChangePDAFrequency' from 'SCPDA'. CommandHandler 'SCPDA.Commands.CommandSCPDA' not found.
prevents a subcommand from being registered, despite CommandSCPDA being registered earlier

whats strange is that i wrote very similar code in another plugin and it has no issues with parent-child commands

relevant code

seems like the issue was {"pda","PDA"}

removing the duplicate caps pda seems to have worked?

[unique crane]

Why do you have the subcommand as inner class..?

Don't do that

[frank mica]

is that a bad thing ^^;

[frank mica]

(it did fix it)

[unique crane]

Weird

[frank mica]

the subcommand as inner class is for code clarity
but i can see how it would cause issues

[median sage]

is there a way to have server info not use pastebin?

[restive turret]

No

[median sage]

ew

[sinful bronze]

@serene vine free money

[serene vine]

!softban 294946845040312332 compromised account, change your password

[regal lake]

Done. Enough chaos.

[serene vine]

$3168 claimed 🤑🤑🤑

[sinful bronze]

[serene vine]

Also new pfp

👀

[serene vine]

Impeccable timing btw. Just parked the car lmao

[sinful bronze]

Haha

[frank mica]

what's the difference between LabApi.Features.Wrappers.Item and InventorySystem.Items?

[sinful bronze]

First is labapi second is assembly i guess

[frank mica]

which one should i use 😭
they look pretty identical

[sinful bronze]

@restive turret

[hearty shard]

whats the use case

[frank mica]

trying to keep track of individual radio items (both in inventory and dropped) to track information about them
like owner and "pda channel"

[restive turret]

Hi

[sinful bronze]

Im on phone rn i cant show you

[hearty shard]

use serials then

when you drop an item the Item is destroyed and it becomes a Pickup

[sinful bronze]

Slejmur

Say a base funny thing

[restive turret]

Tbh i would use the wrapper one since has easy access and stuff for you

[frank mica]

oof

[hearty shard]

wait slime