plugins-dev-chat

[barren pasture]

Also doesn't change the fact that Raycast was hitting Outside without a layer. The coords were behind the target.

[upper vapor]

This is inconceivable

[barren pasture]

That's what my target is lol, is a dummy

[upper vapor]

I doubt that it would be disabling hitboxes, but who knows

Can you send a screenshot of drawable lines from the origin to each hit?

[barren pasture]

If I can get lines

Never knew that was a thing lol

[upper vapor]

Yes

DrawableLines.sometjingidk(origin, hit)

@thin shuttle could tell you all about them

[barren pasture]

That's what I did, none showed up that I could see

[upper vapor]

[barren pasture]

Although for some reason, one of the hits of the RaycastAll is called Collision Box (In Escape Room)

[upper vapor]

Um

Is this the camera at the very end of the escape tunnel?

[barren pasture]

Only the two closest

If I'm on the cam over at the gate, one of the colliders is called Arm

[upper vapor]

Not sure if you're raycasting from an 079 camera or from something else

[barren pasture]

CurrentCamera::Position

        scp.CurrentCamera.Position,
        new Vector3(scp.CurrentCamera.HorizontalRotation, 0f, scp.CurrentCamera.VerticalRotation));```

[upper vapor]

Yeah uh

Try using the Hitbox layer

If you're looking for players specifically

Though it might be better to cast a ray from the ping's hit point and using its normal

[barren pasture]

How do you mean?

[upper vapor]

Make the origin the ping's point, and the direction -normal

[barren pasture]

Hitbox layer gave me just Chest colliders when I pinged the chest, and nothing when I tried the Player layer

[thin shuttle]

https://github.com/ExMod-Team/EXILED/blob/master/EXILED%2FExiled.API%2FFeatures%2FDraw.cs

[thin shuttle]

That normal

You need to HitBox collider

Player collider is for invisible collision with player

[barren pasture]

Would probably be more helpful if I were using Exiled

[barren pasture]

Also, I don't have any colliders named HitBox, just Chest

[thin shuttle]

https://github.com/ExMod-Team/EXILED/blob/master/EXILED%2FExiled.API%2FFeatures%2FPlayer.cs#L4081-L4116

[thin shuttle]

Hitbox is the layer

Some scp have only one hitbox aka 049 and 096

Some scp have all it's hitbox name the same things "Capsule" Scp106

And other are better done even if some part of them have wrong naming

Like duplicate name

[barren pasture]

What are you linking me this for?

[thin shuttle]

To get player from raycast

Idk if that exactly what you wanted

Since you wanted to get player

[barren pasture]

I can try it

[thin shuttle]

But yeah if you want player you need to have Hitbox layer

https://github.com/ExMod-Team/EXILED/blob/master/EXILED%2FExiled.API%2FEnums%2FLayerMasks.cs

@upper vapor do you guyss have some docs for layer i would be curious if we can get a copy ?

I know you guys have an internal documentation

Since hubert made a video about that

If there nothing problematic or censored part of it that would need to i would love doing the documentation for it

[barren pasture]

Why is it that the console sometimes takes 5 "sr" commands to actually work? Is that just me?

[thin shuttle]

No everyone

That perfectly normal

[barren pasture]

Quite weird tho

[thin shuttle]

Idlemode increase these bug happening

[barren pasture]

Interesting

[thin shuttle]

So you can disable it if you want

[barren pasture]

Eh, it'll be fine

[upper vapor]

Not sure what the correlation is, I have the same Linux distribution both on my PC and laptop
My PC sometimes takes 30 tries for LA to even register the command
On my laptop it's instant

[upper vapor]

We've published the layer collision matrix

Is there something else you're looking for?

[thin shuttle]

Yeah if you guys have any documentation for each of them like what they are all for

[thin shuttle]

I have no idea on my computer sometime it's even crash

When i spam the command

[icy knoll]

it's very random, but atleast it eventually works

[royal mica]

Can confirm, this actually happens:

• Docker
• Ptero (same as docker, but different)
• cli

afaik Takail looked into it and it is related to the io being an ass

[icy knoll]

adds up

TUI is a pain

[royal mica]

this.. is not not even TUI ?

this is just a simple cli

what

TUI is mc, lazygit, nano, htop

if it were a tui it would instantly crash when it hangs 💀

[icy knoll]

maybe i got my definitions messed up between tui and cli

[royal mica]

TUI is where you have UI elements, like buttons or panels like if it were a GUI

cli is the simple input + output terminal

[icy knoll]

ah

right

[pale horizon]

unironically seems fine at the moment 🤣

[upper vapor]

Well well well

[pale horizon]

if it fucks up i blame you

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-food-gif-484172901802823874

[pale horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1221975302138499143/1318647722546565222/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

You're one step ahead

(I don't think)

[pale horizon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1356061197052674178/1359297273149915146/caption-16.gif

[upper vapor]

Crazy quote

[restive turret]

Chicken joekay?

[sinful bronze]

Lol

[icy knoll]

@subtle ravine

[subtle ravine]

Ping

Where free money

Lucid already stole it....

[mild ice]

Sorry

[subtle ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400559911519129671/1506011747352580136/togif.gif

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/458030107324579841/1474079626694361322/caption.gif

[inner citrus]

@inner pollen look you're famous

[inner pollen]

wow

DA Leaks

[inner citrus]

literally

[inner pollen]

and why it is on this chat

like...

[inner citrus]

no idea, also it's weird that @mild ice didn't join Discord Admins yet

he should be able to join through Server Settings iirc.?

[inner pollen]

Idk if this server pass reqs

[sinful bronze]

cuz i saw you

discord widget grabber!!!

[icy knoll]

more discord widgets coming lol

thought it would only be marvel rivals for like 100 years

[sinful bronze]

we can make custom widgets

this screenshot was in context what "no no no only we allow you to do that"

[inner pollen]

Ah

[sinful bronze]

we with some dudes alr doing some things

[inner pollen]

I was worried that Advaith was going to completely nuke all custom widgets

[sinful bronze]

yea

[icy knoll]

crazy to think how advaith went from a avid discord user to intern to actual ddev in the timespan of a couple years

[sinful bronze]

thats at first looks like that

[inner pollen]

He isn't an intern

Right now

[icy knoll]

he was

[inner citrus]

they also work on spatial audio

[inner pollen]

Yeah, was

[inner citrus]

real

[icy knoll]

is he a full time ddev now?

[inner pollen]

He is working when he has time iirc

[inner citrus]

@inner pollen nice badge, how much for your discord account

[sinful bronze]

discord loves him when he optimized discord app on phones

[inner pollen]

10m for AI to create this widget

[inner pollen]

$10 + kebab

[inner citrus]

one taj mod key

[inner pollen]

My statsfm widget is fully vibe coded

[icy knoll]

wait the statsfm widget is yours?

[inner pollen]

Yep

Mine

[icy knoll]

i can access it and connect here lol

damn

wish there was smth like stats.fm but for downloaded music

[sinful bronze]

btw custom widget things was showed funny

like see and test

[inner pollen]

I know about them

[sinful bronze]

are u in discord testers

or no

[inner pollen]

Idk

[inner citrus]

he's not, he got banned

[restive turret]

skull

[inner citrus]

I am obviously joking

[sinful bronze]

bad joke

send me taj mod key as apologize

[inner citrus]

it's a good joke since you can clearly see his GOLD BUG HUNTER GLOBAL BADGE

[sinful bronze]

well

[restive turret]

dQw4w9WgXcQ

[inner citrus]

T8BB4-3V6CC-5K2FT

[sinful bronze]

u can send ma a GOLD TAJ MOD KEY

[inner citrus]

actually that's the wrong one

X8DZZ-FR2II-98NXM

here you go

[sinful bronze]

thank you

it was joke

[inner citrus]

a bad one

[hearty shard]

guh

[sinful bronze]

im sending you a taj mod key as apologize

[restive turret]

aint no way a steam key is that short

[sinful bronze]

1234-ILOVE-TAJUO

[sinful bronze]

🔥

[inner citrus]

let me know when you claim it

[sinful bronze]

im claimed

[inner citrus]

alright then have fun

you should also have access to the OST

but idk if it works

[sinful bronze]

i will check

[inner citrus]

maybe I also need to give a key for that

@inner pollen how does it work

[sinful bronze]

as i see yes

[inner citrus]

time to request more keys ig

[inner pollen]

You need to send OST key

Not game

[inner citrus]

request them im lazy

[inner pollen]

I'm going to dormitory

[inner citrus]

meow meow meow meow meow

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1242328252744208425/1292554229403226193/consider.gif

[sinful bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-food-eat-lick-cute-gif-9906705

[restive turret]

I checked the key and its legit

Wtf

[inner citrus]

well yeah

what did you think it was

[restive turret]

A fake key?

[inner citrus]

im lazy to type random characters

[restive turret]

Real

Sending tajmod to steamdb

[inner citrus]

already done

[inner pollen]

it is on steamdb

[restive turret]

Lol

[inner pollen]

someone made dump while we was waiting for Community Mod

[inner citrus]

yeah lmao

[restive turret]

!leak

[regal lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/422385982235475968/707658562910027806/source.gif

[inner citrus]

ngl miner leaks everything

taj mod dataminer

[inner pollen]

@inner citrus

[hearty shard]

@restive turret becme a sheep

[restive turret]

Huh

[hearty shard]

you heard me

[inner citrus]

do it

[restive turret]

How would i even do that

[tulip kiln]

Take a load of testosterone and don't shave

[sinful bronze]

and recolor ur hair to white

[icy knoll]

you tryna be dante from DMC?

[tulip kiln]

I had a blonde friend who had blonde body hair

so sheep material

[sinful bronze]

are dante was a sheep

[mild ice]

This server is nowhere near 60% retention lol
We get a lot of visitors from Server Discovery who quickly leave basically immediately

[inner citrus]

oof, small communities win again

[restive turret]

I already dont shave my beard

[inner citrus]

I'll give you admin when one of my servers will meet all requirements for you to join

[sinful bronze]

it's ur 1 step

[mild ice]

Just how the cookie crumbles

[restive turret]

I kindly decline eves request

[pale horizon]

@upper vapor i blame you

[2026-05-27 13:30:28.519 +01:00] Player from endpoint X [routed via 172.18.0.1:57355] sent expired preauthentication token.
[2026-05-27 13:30:28.530 +01:00] Make sure that time and timezone set on server is correct. We recommend synchronizing the time.

[inner pollen]

Taj Mod...

[tulip kiln]

You need to take testosterone to induce faster body hair growth

[upper vapor]

[pale horizon]

its fine i can fix

just make the backend servers ignore preauth more or less

[icy knoll]

enterprise private IP address........

[pale horizon]

docker

[icy knoll]

valid

[pale horizon]

😂

[sweet flax]

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/fxqfp1nnfx

TL;DR sending mesh is

(33(x-2))/(6x+17) faster where x >= 3 and is the polygon sides count

not to stream full asset data such as vertices, triangles, normals, UVs, tangents, etc.
its only needed to stream verticies and triangles

[hearty shard]

such as

[obtuse spruce]

I do agree that from a purely geometric/network payload perspective, custom meshes can absolutely become more efficient than stacking primitives together. I dont really disagree with that point.

My point is not that custom meshes are impossible or a bad idea. Its more that if Northwood ever implements something like this, it should probably be done in a clean and future-proof way from the start.

Even if sending vertices and triangles works technically, I think relying on Mirror as the delivery mechanism could become a limitation later. A proper asset pipeline with caching/versioning would make the system much safer and more scalable long-term.

And honestly, if they ever go in that direction, they should probably go all the way and support proper asset distribution overall, including textures/materials, instead of partially reinventing an asset system through network replication alone ^^'

One thing I will absolutely defend is that Northwood should expand the current primitive system with more shapes. Adding things like triangles, wedges, cones, etc... would cost them very little (30 minutes of their time) compared to full custom assets while already allowing map makers to significantly reduce primitive stacking and make some builds much cleaner

[obtuse spruce]

(As a temporary solution)

[sweet flax]

However adding triangles over custom meshes even temporary would be just less efficent since they are ~0.94 of the cost and have much more limitation than meshes

and when serialized using vector2 instead of vector3 would be ~82% cheaper than mesh

[obtuse spruce]

The issue is not really whether meshes are lighter or more efficient geometrically. My point is that you cannot just throw a Mesh into a SyncVar and call it a day

From an infrastructure standpoint, if Northwood ever implements something like this, it needs to be secure, scalable and performant long-term. We're talking about a live game ecosystem here, not a small portfolio project or a prototype ^^'

[sweet flax]

The mesh syncing only requiers 2 arrays one of vector3 and the other one of a number (int ushort doesn't matter) which i don't thing is something miror would die trying and making UGC downloadadble would as said before (i thing game director or smth like that) kill the game identity and make it more gmod-like

[restive turret]

SL project loading with no library cache is more than 30m

[obtuse spruce]

Lmao

[restive turret]

And downloading blender+ learning it minimally to produce something also takes time

[restive turret]

No joke, i imported SL yesterday 5 times and still got fucking unity error and couldn't continue doing anything

[obtuse spruce]

NW have some 3D Artist i think that not a big deal for them

[obtuse spruce]

...

[sweet flax]

yet another unity classic

[obtuse spruce]

I understand your point, and technically yes, Mirror probably would not instantly collapse just because two arrays are synchronized

What I was trying to explain is more that once you officially support user-generated meshes in a live multiplayer game, the problem stops being only “can Mirror transfer the data” and becomes an actual long-term infrastructure and ecosystem problem

At that point you have to think about scalability, caching, bandwidth usage, asset validation, future extensibility, client side performance, persistence, versioning, etc... Especially for a game that already has a large hosting ecosystem behind it

And honestly, regarding the "GMod-like" concern, I partially agree with you there too. That exactly why I think if Northwood ever does this, it needs to be done carefully and with a clear direction instead of just attaching mesh arrays to SyncVars and hoping it scales properly long-term

[restive turret]

The joke is, importing with other unity version magically solved it

[obtuse spruce]

Please NW. When Unity 6.8 drop. Bump the game to it in the hour after the release 🙏

[restive turret]

Haha that would require rewriting a lot of things

[obtuse spruce]

i know

But its a good investment of time i swear

[restive turret]

But i can play with 6.8 when it drops

[sweet flax]

I am aware that making downloadable UCG would be better but as said by Assistant Game Director

There's also the idea that the future of SL will look like— sitting on the main menu to download each server's unique asset collections a la GMod. This isn't really something we are desiring to go for.

So unfortunately or not the custom meshes synced via mirorr are the best we can get when it comes to primitive expansion

[obtuse spruce]

Honestly, I understand that point of view. As a player, what particularly annoys me about modding is having to wait forever to download 10 to 15 GB of resources before I can join a server that I probably wont even like

Thats also why I think Northwood is careful not to push SCP:SL too far into a UGC/GMod model. Its about finding a balance between giving creators more freedom and preserving a smooth, accessible, and stable experience for players

[obtuse spruce]

Im waiting for that I really want to be able to update my RabbitMQ.Client and have a good JIT and GC

[restive turret]

That's it, deleting all primitives and keeping capybara only

[obtuse spruce]

Create a house with a capybara

[restive turret]

I hope they use 10 or 11 or even 12 when it comes out

6.5 has net8

Or is it 6.4 idk

[obtuse spruce]

6.8 will use .NET 10 iirc

[restive turret]

Source gen all the way

[obtuse spruce]

Im looking on the forum but wtf

[restive turret]

So sad they still haven't updated that

[unique crane]

Unity's Mono probably older than average SL player

it doesnt have any "modern" optimalizations

[obtuse spruce]

The CPU cache will be able to breathe 🙏

Less cache miss

[restive turret]

David, can you fix my unity

[obtuse spruce]

David, can you hire me ?

[wary gust]

@sweet flax does Color32 support colors with values larger than 255? (Or does it support intensity?) Because if not, you suggestion would take away what is a great feature imo - glow on primitives. (It would require a float Color intensity property to keep this feature probably)

[obtuse spruce]

That why having only meshes is not interesting

So now he wants meshes, but when meshes are released he'll want the textures and materials

[unique crane]

No, Color32 is 0-255 values

[sweet flax]

How does glow work on primitives?

[unique crane]

You put it above 1f

[glad pagoda]

meanwhile MS killing mono in dotnet 12

[obtuse spruce]

Color x Intensity x Intensity

[wary gust]

If you go above 1 in anything it glows

[sweet flax]

Oh

Then nvm

[wary gust]

So like Color(10,10,10) is white glow

[unique crane]

There is no reason to change it to Color32 except it being downgrade

• Unity doesnt have overload for Color32 for material color set

[restive turret]

I'm fine downgrading stuff

[restive turret]

Huh what

[unique crane]

And with that bombshell

I think its time to end Unity

[obtuse spruce]

SL on Godot

[restive turret]

No

I tried godot, still waiting for something usable in c# side that not sucks

And I'm not gonna compile my own

[obtuse spruce]

It would be cast 🤡

[restive turret]

I cast

[obtuse spruce]

I never tried Godot I think I might take a look

[unique crane]

So we would use Color32 just for it to get implicitly casted to Color afterwards

great

[restive turret]

You can try i guess, nothing stops you

[obtuse spruce]

CPU for nothing :

[unique crane]

No reason to change it

[obtuse spruce]

I dont like game development. I just dont have choice with SL

ASP.NET my love

[restive turret]

Fuck aspnet

[obtuse spruce]

Fuck unity

[restive turret]

I like it, funny

[restive turret]

I can get behind that too

The amount of times it breaks

[obtuse spruce]

[sinful bronze]

@inner pollen

[upper vapor]

Would you be interested in sharing your recent findings?

[upper vapor]

I meann...
online_mode: false

[pale horizon]

i just harmony patched it 😭

[restive turret]

What you mean

That running latest unity version in GitHub ci on Linux can't build Linux binaries?

[upper vapor]

Ye

[wary gust]

online_mode: false breaks most plugins and features iirc

Due to encrypted channels not being a thing if turned off

(most features not directly tied to gameplay)

[upper vapor]

There is an implicit conversion between Color32 and Color

[unique crane]

#plugins-dev-chat message

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[restive turret]

Building Linux binaries from windows works

[upper vapor]

[restive turret]

Don't check the total duration

[static meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1223052984213180478/1505821338491949087/attachment.gif

God damn

[restive turret]

It is sequnced but will change into paralell 2 so will be faster

It was
WC => IL => WS => LC => LS

[upper vapor]

WC => ILlness => WebSocket => LunarClient => LiSt

[restive turret]

I'm banning you

[upper vapor]

nuh uh

[restive turret]

Then forcing you to implement suggestions

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/spittin-bars-bunny-bnuuy-rabbit-bunny-spittin-bars-gif-9157936881030366542

[remote cosmos]

Be mindful with CD keys. Steam gives you a limited supply for a reason. Use and therefore burn too many of them and it becomes a problem. Ask me how I know.

Smaller and new project obviously has different needs and will be treated as such. But it’s never too fun, always is a risk.

[inner citrus]

D:

[unique crane]

If your giving keys for the game

Isn't there like early access program on Steam

Where you can request access?

And Devs can give it to you?

[marble cobalt]

you're*

argument destroyed

good luck next time

[unique crane]

):

[inner citrus]

Beryl appears like a knight in shining armor

[unique crane]

I'm deleting master branch

[marble cobalt]

Honestly fair

[inner citrus]

@marble cobalt he says hello

[marble cobalt]

Pog crouching

[inner citrus]

thank you

I stole it from him

[marble cobalt]

Steal his beanie while at it

[unique crane]

The crouching is real

[marble cobalt]

hardcode it that he's bald ingame

[inner citrus]

I'll try my best

[unique crane]

Skull

[halcyon folio]

The more I know about you

And; I never looked into how steam keys worked like that. Cool to know

[inner citrus]

iirc. I remember this being an issue during Patreon betas, how did you guys solve it?

[mild ice]

We've moved to account based authentication at start up, rather than using individual keys to unlock a DLC

[cyan crown]

I think new human models have some crouch animations as well but no transition in or out

[unique crane]

No

That's just when you land after falling

If you can count that

[cyan crown]

weird i saw some crouch movement animations in blender port server it was like crouch_moveforward...etc

[inner citrus]

iirc. There is even some crouch code left

[restive turret]

yes, but it is disabled

[bright vine]

would it be possible to edit a player's role to be any custom string (e.g: "SCP-001") from the POV of spectators specifically?

[restive turret]

no and no

[bright vine]

figured, thank you!

all clientsided i assume

[restive turret]

you can send broadcast or hint to the spectators

thats what i use too

[soft turtle]

Can someone explain how text centering works in Hint?
I'm trying to solve the centering issue and create my own API so that multiple plugins can send Hints simultaneously, but I've run into a problem where the Hint behaves very strangely

[upper vapor]

create my own API

[thin shuttle]

a new api

[upper vapor]

just wait for displaykit 😭🙏

[thin shuttle]

it's will be release for 15.0 ? right ?

not in 5 year ?

[upper vapor]

that is what we're aiming for, yeah

[thin shuttle]

ok

do you guys have an idea for badge rework or that not even on the table

[spare zodiac]

isn't that in works for like year and something now?

[marble cobalt]

It's something we are actively working on, it's not abandoned. In retrospective, we made the mistake of announcing it too soon, but there is good reasons for its delay, though I can't really speak on it much until it is ready.

This is not a promise that it will be in 15.0 as it is very hard to say at the moment.

We are prioritizing the new playable SCP & Surface Zone, as you can imagine, so we can't give it our full undivided attention and guarantee it for 15.0.

[spare zodiac]

no clue if anyone talked about this, but will there be developer/labapi version before full 15.0 release, so frameworks like Exiled could fix issues?

[marble cobalt]

As always, there will be a period of public beta after a private beta of this size

Considering we'll be releasing DisplayKit alongside 15.0, we do want people to have fun with it during this time.

[halcyon folio]

Is there any news or info around DisplayKit?

This is my first time hearing of it

[hearty shard]

youd have to search for it

[halcyon folio]

I just did that now

[hearty shard]

theres some hints towards it

but

[halcyon folio]

I have an idea

on that it is now

[hearty shard]

you cant rly find out more than that, since its not even done yet lel

[halcyon folio]

I get the gist 🙂

It helps with designing the player UI

And has additional functionality

[restive turret]

iirc it is basicly built top on unitys ui

[halcyon folio]

Yeah

I know of Unity’s UI

[restive turret]

you are better than me in this state

cus i know nothing in unity ui

[halcyon folio]

I have heard of it and looked at some samples

[unique crane]

We will be likely posting an update on it in near future. But you can watch our LabAPI stage here
https://youtu.be/-4pmeZiKpwM?is=z68iJ-quXp7y3bov

[halcyon folio]

Thanks 🙂

[unique crane]

Holy it even has timestamps

peak

[obtuse spruce]

Can we have the code of the notification popup ?

[halcyon folio]

I don’t recall Ender’s voice sounding like that

Unless it’s been so long lol

I’ll check this out more later

[marble cobalt]

As David said, we will be sharing some things very soon :)

[halcyon folio]

Oh wait I do remember briefly seeing that function

Exciting stuff

[unique crane]

It is pretty fire stuff. If you want, you can take a look at Unity's UI toolkit meanwhile as it is built on top of that

[obtuse spruce]

Im so excited about this new feature for real 🙏

[restive turret]

ye I did extra work on it not just uploaded :)

[warped prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892932656457715773/1485821966136115230/attachment.gif

[remote cosmos]

I never received either of the two above pings. I don’t know why. Lucid captured the majority of the nuances. Effectively moving authentication into the build itself. It’s not pretty. But there are multiple solutions. Moving away from CD keys has made my life significantly more difficult. But you can implement an alternative system, alongside accepting that it won’t be perfect. “If a player can only play solo, there’s really not much they can do in create game.”

Steam CD key is nice, but with a community project it really isn’t stable. Doing something like Steamification is ideal. Shift beta authentications to being a Steam purchase. Valve will allow you to actually do things like that relatively easily. Means less compromises. Bypasses country restrictions. Etc.

Even the staff CD keys are starting to run low. So I’ve asked folks to shift systems internally as well. Not just a community thing anymore.

[harsh thorn]

^
Due to that we're now doing in house beta management via the Patreon portal for any kind of private build
With some extra protections in those private builds to be expanded later, that being patreon or staff

Not the most ideal but the closest we can get to an ideal solution using possible means

[upper vapor]

Blud is packing for winter 😭

[warped prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-jefferson-thomas-jefferson-cat-thomas-jefferson-cat-gif-2740952836925614145

[upper vapor]

What did I just witness

[warped prairie]

This gif has an outro I guess

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/864205117178773606/1478480480864305285/hube.gif

[warped prairie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1457973238025031864/1473668541248049254/8DFE1021E1646ED48F552930C47A6568.gif

[upper vapor]

Try not to ai slop challenge

[wary gust]

Will DisplayKit include ways of displaying item models? (Like they are visible in inventory, maybe also roles as visible in RA / spectator list)

(either planned or in initial release, but I am assuming this isn't planned for initial release)

[snow pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388939946911465645/1497680357804474448/INTRIGUING_1.gif

[restive turret]

You mean item icons?

[wary gust]

Yeah

[restive turret]

I don't think it is initial in there

[wary gust]

Is it planned like clickable UI? And if not, should I make a GitHub suggestion?

[restive turret]

I would wait for displaykit to be released to y'all then make suggestions

Because there will be a place or feedback on it what wish to be added on it

[wary gust]

Hopefully I won't forget

[restive turret]

Set a reminder

!remindme

[regal lake]

🚫 I couldn't understand the format of your reminder time and text.

[restive turret]

The time idk how long but if you set 1 month then you can always ask for another month or something

[wary gust]

15.0 release announced in 1 month??/j

[restive turret]

I said 1 month because if you forget in that time you can be reminded to set the time again

Or even can set weekly lol but thats too much

[wary gust]

!remindme 3months pickup and role models in displaykit

[regal lake]

I will remind you of that in 3 months (<t:1787907815:f>).

[wary gust]

This is low-key fire. Idk who is working on that bot but I love it

[restive turret]

Images!!!

Not models

Model is a 3d representation

[wary gust]

Renders of models. I will know what I meant and that's what's important

[restive turret]

[wary gust]

I will phrase it better but image is a bit too general and I could forget what exactly I had in mind

@restive turret one more thing. If my bug got denied a bit ago in the regular bug tracker for requiring RA, should I make a labapi bug?

[restive turret]

Depends on what bug

But I take RA bugs too

[wary gust]

Scp173 and maybe others can't have their footsteps muted

Or well movement sound

I can't remember, I can probably find the bug report tho

[restive turret]

I think maybe bc most are client sided and inside their movement code

You can try test it and create a bug report on labapu

[wary gust]

I will just take stuff from my old report and repost it in the labapi bug report format

I doubt it changed

Well ig I could check when I get home

[restive turret]

Make sure actually is a bug and not old stuff

[wary gust]

It was maybe 1 minor update ago

[restive turret]

So can be reprod

[wary gust]

Maybe 14.2.2

I'll check it but if true I'll just use the old recording

this is it btw: https://git.scpslgame.com/northwood-qa/scpsl-bug-reporting/-/work_items/2752

[restive turret]

@wary gust it is in the Scp173CharacterModel.UpdateFootsteps

will see how others work with the silent walk and footsteps

[thin shuttle]

have you did fix the walk on Tantrum / Sinkhole effect ?

idk if that still bugged tho

i remind one of these not working before

[wary gust]

Tantrum was fixed

I remember it being in patch notes somewhere

[thin shuttle]

Oh ok

[wary gust]

Idk about sinkhole

[soft turtle]

How soon will it be released?

[royal mica]

it'll come with 15.0 iirc

[restive turret]

yes, buindled with 14.2.5

thank whoever made VS git integration i can see clearly which tag version its included

also such a funny thing seeing SL branches

[inner citrus]

Thanks for your answer! Also, If you don't mind, I sent a friend request in case I'll have more questions about this in the future (since I am not sure if this chat is a perfect place for that)

[restive turret]

hey i am interested in this conv

[inner citrus]

away with you, api maintainer

https://tenor.com/jIW6Yv1FwOl.gif

[restive turret]

hey, I working on my own game too :((

[thin shuttle]

Can you give a picture of it ?

[inner citrus]

https://youtu.be/FlhtUA0stvw

[restive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/stewly-blume-orange-cat-stare-gif-17752913172072782188

[restive turret]

I can draw but cant really share

[spare zodiac]

never

[cyan crown]

[pale horizon]

"hey gemini remake this image in paint"

[thin shuttle]

Lol

Curious how that would render

[pale horizon]

fuck knows

[restive turret]

here a not accurate representation

[pale horizon]

💀

[restive turret]

expected to look like that when some stuff is WIP and many people working on the project

you can watch exiled too

but iirc most stuff is stashed

*squased

[pale horizon]

probs

im tryna figure out how i can fuck up scenes to be funny

[restive turret]

huh

[pale horizon]

i want to not have to load a scene because its already loaded, just being sent across a proxy

not fun

[restive turret]

ah

[pale horizon]

not seeming very possible either 😭

[restive turret]

but most project i work on looks like this

[pale horizon]

checks out

[restive turret]

no squashing

[upper vapor]

Just destroy the objects of the first server and spawn the objects of the other

[restive turret]

or just

[upper vapor]

[inner citrus]

I like squashing

[pale horizon]

nah i want to prevent it loading to prevent the 2-3 second lag it causes

kekw

[upper vapor]

Well uh

[upper vapor]

Github-style squash

[restive turret]

seems fair

sadly it doesnt show PRS that never get merged

[pale horizon]

yeah not very fun

[cyan crown]

[pale horizon]

[restive turret]

well you trying to not use the system as it designed to so ofc it gonna behave wierd

[upper vapor]

Why is the emoji shaded

[restive turret]

shadered

[pale horizon]

why not

[pale horizon]

if theres a will theres a way

[worn gull]

RTX emodzsi

[pale horizon]

there doesnt appear to be a way

[restive turret]

Could have guessed

[pale horizon]

🤣

[upper vapor]

DLSS6

[bright vine]

whats the easy way to find a specific candy (for 914 processing/processed item) event or do i have to use that complex way

[restive turret]

can you describe with more details

[bright vine]

i want to process 330 candies in 914, thats it

turns out 330 does not have its processor LOL so i need to implement it manually 💔

[bright vine]

at least for very fine anyway, i havent checked the other knobs but its prob the same

[restive turret]

ye 330 and other items doesnt have 914 processor

there is an issue created by me i believe

[bright vine]

an issue by you? what issue?

[restive turret]

oh only internally nvm

ye i am aware of not every item has 914 processor

even an "empty" processor

which i think many people would like to have and can upgrade those things

ie:
No upgrade for the custom keycards

[bright vine]

i fixed it, for anyone curious about the solution, i had to implement a "processor" for 330, which made it upgradable in 914 and therefore the 914 events can fire properly for that item accordingly

[upper vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1165984826487226420/1492112854588067840/togif.gif

[wary gust]

Could netIDs going over 32767 cause issues? I know it's an uint which has a limit of like 4 000 000 000, I have just been running into issues around the time it hits that

[restive turret]

Don't think why would mirror limit at that

[royal mica]

Data type

check what it serializes into that is transmitted

maybe it is lost during serialization

[unique crane]

Are you sure the netid is the issue?

[wary gust]

Nope. I debugged a bunch and it seems fine.

I'll try to do a few more tests but it seems unrelated

just a very wierd coincidance

[icy knoll]

@tacit granite

or @thorn escarp (as you just came online)

[trim shale]

thank you mr bust

free money!

[icy knoll]

patreon manager spotted in the wild

[trim shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/422385982235475968/1509273752830087399/SL_tier_5_real_glitch.gif

[royal mica]

no way that is real

@thorn escarp We have another one?

[icy knoll]

when we get 2 in quick succession i feel like we need a honeypot

[hearty shard]

im so cool

[tulip kiln]

BepInEx discord has a channel that autobans anyone who types into it, and the mod team said "the channel is working effectively" and they kept it.

Though on SLCord's scale I can imagine a lot of idiots falling victim to this

[icy knoll]

do autokick instead

banning is brutal as it's normally normal people getting compromised and not a spam account made purely for the scam

[tulip kiln]

I assume they used bans so they can use te built in message removal

Though implementing that should be trivial

[sweet flax]

Well if its said that if you text there you will get banned

And someone fucks around

[restive turret]

Common sense being legendary

[tulip kiln]

Like how can someone send a message here BY ACCIDENT right??

Unless they're a new user

[wary gust]

Only reason that comes to mind is them not speaking English ig

[tulip kiln]

Or discord "helping" you out 😭 😭

[restive turret]

iirc many dc server are English only

[wary gust]

Couldn't a bot just track of someone sends 1 message / channel in like 10+ channels?

And then kick?

[icy knoll]

i think there is a discord method for pruning messages from a specific user now

[icy knoll]

in theory, yes, but it's painful

there is a bot out there that i know of, but i think discord management are working on some stuff

[wary gust]

I got bad news. They are getting smarter. Just got a bot / stole account which didn't @ everyone but pinged the role they had the perms to ping and had the highest amount of users with said role

idk if I can send the image, lemme censor it

[wary gust]

meh good enough

[warped prairie]

prolly scrapes to see what the highest number of people it can ping

getting smarter though

[wary gust]

yeah what I said

[warped prairie]

yuh

🗣️

[wary gust]

idk maybe they can see which roles have how many users

cos if you ping a role you get the role indicator now

with the count

[warped prairie]

the "this is going to ping x users be careful" or something

[wary gust]

click on this and you will see what I mean: <@&1274619602927747115>

[warped prairie]

ohh i s ee

[halcyon folio]

mr best

[restive turret]

mr lowest

[upper vapor]

they don't have time for that

[fickle bison]

@upper vapor check dm pls

[bright vine]

its not possible to get the color of SCPs and set it that for custom roles, correct?

is this still accurate

[snow pulsar]

Last I remember the role colors can only be used that are listed there, i'm pretty sure SCP text is either Red, Crimson, or Carmine

[bright vine]

red is the closest color, and its a little bit noticeable to tell apart 💔

[mild ice]

Correct, and yes that image is still accurate

[shut sandal]

Seem works well on net standard 2.1
Thanks mono

[upper vapor]

Yeah, most (if not all) features should work, but if you disable implicit framework references, there really won't be any difference

Like you're only changing metadata here

[thin shuttle]

nope you can't

[flint creek]

Can I change the brightness in the room? The room color setting looks a bit off

[tribal dagger]

does anyone know why setting a role after spawning causes this error?

its just running SetRole for scientist

[upper vapor]

Is this on release or early build?

[solar shuttle]

release

the latest on steam

[upper vapor]

Um

[upper vapor]

Well, if you're doing this in the spawning event (which is in the middle of role initialization) then it would explain stuff

[tribal dagger]

@solar shuttle ^

use IsAllowed false method and event Spawning

[upper vapor]

Yeah so

Don't change the role while the role is changing

[solar shuttle]

Maybe I can wait a second after the onspawned event?

[upper vapor]

Would be nice to have some sort of way to prevent this (exception as a bandaid?)

[upper vapor]

Wait a frame

Or just

Subscribe to the role change event instead

[solar shuttle]

Yeah a moment of waiting did the trick

[tribal dagger]

doesnt that show the initial role for a split second?

[tribal dagger]

yeah could be good

i was suspecting the spawned event being the issue

[solar shuttle]

yeah but that's fine, it's for a friend of mine that is a doctor in real life, hes guaranteed to be a scientist when he plays with us lol

[tribal dagger]

but didnt think it would explode labapi

[solar shuttle]

It's funny because it worked just fine in the previous version of SER

[upper vapor]

Erm

[tribal dagger]

it could be because SER got significantly faster

[solar shuttle]

Oh, I didn't know that, that's great and would actually explain why

[solar shuttle]

How can I subscribe to the role change event? just to know the proper way

[upper vapor]

At elek

[tribal dagger]

the proper way is using C#

[upper vapor]

I don't use SER

[upper vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/fact-check-dog-cute-american-patriots-cotton-gif-9590438272537618028

[solar shuttle]

yeah, figured that would be your answer

lol

[tribal dagger]

serhelp events

and find something regarding role

[solar shuttle]

changedrole

yeah

[tribal dagger]

[solar shuttle]

just tried it with changed role and it works, thanks both!

[tribal dagger]

all good

[upper vapor]

Np

[flint creek]

When was room.LightIntensity removed?

[hearty shard]

idk 50 years ago

r u referring to Room from labapi

or from basegame

[thin shuttle]

basegame

LabAPI didn't existed

when there was LightIntensity on Room

[hearty shard]

yeah thats why i said 50 years ago

i kinda had the idea

but uh

theres always just the color of it

[thin shuttle]

yeah but bro wanted to keep the color of room

and not force all light to have the same color

[foggy ruin]

how would you completely hide a players infoarea so when you look at them nothing comes up

[flint creek]

Since the black displayed by ccolor is not pure blac

[hearty shard]

player.InfoArea or smth

[foggy ruin]

i fogired it out

[spare zodiac]

you would be better off to work with custominfo rather then infoarea, because it wokrs half of the time

[foggy ruin]

i just use custominfo playerinfoarea flag and set custominfo to ""

[hearty shard]

that doesnt hide it all tho

[spare zodiac]

or just write into custominfo multiple \n

[hearty shard]

what

[foggy ruin]

what i have seems to work

[spare zodiac]

you can use breaks in custominfo

[foggy ruin]

not with dummy's tho

[hearty shard]

thats not what they are going for it seems

like yes you could spawn a bunch of \n to make it so someones name and role is gone etc

but why not just...

disable those from showing up in the first place

instead of just spamming \n

[spare zodiac]

It's valid option, it didn't work for me before, so I don't have best experience with info area

[hearty shard]

i mean they said it works for players, but not dummies

[main zenith]

#labapi-announcements message
does now Var.SetRole() is supposed to set the Var to be null?

[main zenith]

from now on?

[hearty shard]

what

[main zenith]

like i have

Log.Info("Started");
InvalidPlayer(Player_);
Player_.SetRole( Role );
InvalidPlayer(Player_);
Player_.Scale = scale_;
``` and after that set role Player_ is null somehow

[hearty shard]

thats probably a you issue

you havent showed anything else

[main zenith]

ok nv im just stupid

[vast wharf]

quick quick question is there any way to make max players go up without restart

like the players cap

[restive turret]

well via plugin you can increase

[vast wharf]

ok

[restive turret]

SteamServerInfo.MaxPlayers = 1000;

CustomNetworkManager.MaxPlayers

[sharp hedge]

what does this mean

server side ragdolls??

[teal junco]

no its a demo for gibbing

[restive turret]

Oh lol

[sharp hedge]

oh

[restive turret]

Looks cool

[teal junco]

thanks

my biggest trouble right now is figuring out how to make good looking gibs

i decided not to do body parts because primitives will never look like body parts so im making cartoon bones and making a few select organs

[grand flower]

good luck