#plugins-dev-chat | SCP: Secret Laboratory | Page 45

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 7:55 AM

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I can open them by code not really care about it, the thing is.
Cant really detect if its a door, or dont know how to detect

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 7:56 AM

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Just raycast

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 7:56 AM

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How i never used it

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:03 AM

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Check what mask player interactions use

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Raycast from the player's camera position, in the direction they're facing

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(add like, 10/20cm away from the camera position to avoid hitting the head)

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Raycast using the interaction distance

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If you hit something, check the components for a door variant

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:04 AM

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Oh components i totally forgot that

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:05 AM

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Is there any event where I can get the User Id of the player when he leaves the server?
When LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.Left is called the UserId of the player is already null

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:06 AM

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It shouldn't be

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If it is, check when the player changes roles to Destroyed

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 8:06 AM

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soft turtle Is there any event where I can get the User Id of the player when he leaves the ...

ig use leaving instead

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if that exists

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:07 AM

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It doesn't because you cant stop a user from leaving

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:07 AM

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That would be funny

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Ngl

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:07 AM

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alt f4 be like

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:07 AM

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soft turtle Is there any event where I can get the User Id of the player when he leaves the ...

i dont think its null, something else must be going on

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:08 AM

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Not null for us

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:08 AM

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worthy rune i dont think its null, something else must be going on

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:08 AM

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yeah i would have alot of problems if thats true

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:08 AM

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soft turtle

are you using exiled?

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:08 AM

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soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:09 AM

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worthy rune are you using exiled?

-_-

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LabApi.Events

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Not Exiled

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:09 AM

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Is PlayedTime null

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:09 AM

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soft turtle -_-

no i mean, do you have exiled installed. not if your using it here

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:10 AM

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grand flower Is PlayedTime null

PlayedTime cannot be null because the error says the argument is null and not the list.

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:10 AM

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Fair

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:10 AM

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worthy rune no i mean, do you have exiled installed. not if your using it here

Yes it is installed

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:10 AM

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try without it installed

soft turtle Jun 16, 2025, 8:10 AM

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worthy rune try without it installed

Hmm

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Ok thx

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:11 AM

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Wait do devs really try to use both at the same time

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Sounds like a recipe for disaster

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:11 AM

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grand flower Sounds like a recipe for disaster

It is

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:11 AM

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well, exiled is a labapi plugin so there isnt away to avoid it

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thats just how it is

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:11 AM

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Exiled slowly begin to be much headache for me

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:12 AM

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Idk we just use labapi and then patch whatever we need that it doesn't give us

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Using both would be suicide imo

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:12 AM

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grand flower Using both would be suicide imo

It is

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I had to make my own "ExiledFixer" plugin

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:12 AM

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also this goes for any plugin with alot of patches, im not singling exiled out its just the most popular and has the most patches

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next would be cedmod

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 AM

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All of our plugins are handmade for that reason

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If something breaks we know it's on us

pine parcel Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 AM

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are there any good docs anywhere for LabAPI, or is it a case of look into other projects to figure out people have solved certain issues?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 AM

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Or well, Northwood

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LULLLLLL

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 AM

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grand flower Or well, Northwood

Well yeah

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 AM

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something something 079

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inb4 "not a priority"

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Our scale broke bc i tried to use the Player:Scale and then respawning the player

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Oh we're currently missing a few features because of player scaling

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:14 AM

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Was funny

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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worthy rune next would be cedmod

C*dm*d

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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Happened while I was sleeping

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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I fixed it, and then a few days later it broke again

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Servers just instant dying

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No logs

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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pine parcel are there any good docs anywhere for LabAPI, or is it a case of look into other ...

LabApi wiki

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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So now we're at a point where 14.1.1's scaling is actually worse than manual scaling in 14.1 and older

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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Ye even if I set my scale in midgame somehow it gives me +30 ms

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Older isn't

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:15 AM

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I wish we could revert it but nope

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Idk I only started working on SL stuff during the 14.1 beta

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:16 AM

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yeah thats unfortunate

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Plz riptide fix

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:16 AM

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Sucks because we used it for a good amount of things

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But the instant crashes that take down 2 servers are a no no

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:17 AM

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Ye and the 1 -1 1 scale just crashed the s3rv3r

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:17 AM

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I'm probably gonna try to tinker with it into working but I really hope we get a permanent fix soon

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:18 AM

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Also is the deforming the player still works?

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Either was in Dr.B or CT

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:19 AM

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I actually forgot to disable it

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but it hasn't broken anything so

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Main source was pets, if you changed their role a few times they'd explode

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Wtf

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:20 AM

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yeah someone found that out and decided it'd be funny to do it a few times in a row

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machine just completely became unresponsive after the like, 3rd crash

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Wow

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:20 AM

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so I just disabled them for now

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:21 AM

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Add a time limit

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:21 AM

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I think I can probably get them stable again but I have bigger fish to fry

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nah, that'd be a bandaid

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i'm guessing even if you do it with a minute apart it breaks

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it wasn't like, multiple role changes a second

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Scaling should've just been a sync var on a component in the reference hub, not role based

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😭

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:46 AM

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Good news is that I have branch with fix

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for the role changed set

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:54 AM

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sweet

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:54 AM

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grand flower Scaling should've just been a sync var on a component in the reference hub, not ...

Once again, resetting values is what I would expect from role set

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Every other value resets

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and this one wont

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Think about it

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:55 AM

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unique crane Once again, resetting values is what I would expect from role set

Could still be done when initializing the role on the server

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and it would run before OnPlayerChangedRole

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meaning it really wouldn't affect developers at all

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But

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If you fixed setting the scale in OnPlayerRoleChanged, at the very least it'll be less of a pain

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We can just modify our fake role sync to send a scale update message after the role sync one

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:56 AM

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changing this behavior now will break other plugins

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But yes the scale msg OnRoleChanged will be fixed

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hopefully

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:56 AM

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fingers crossed

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:57 AM

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I dont want to promise you anything as

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well yea.. sometimes things are not merged instantly

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:57 AM

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Even something as nasty as this?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:57 AM

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Well bug fixes usually are

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Especially without any LabAPI change

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purely base game PR is merged fast

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:57 AM

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But then the question would be

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How long til 14.1.2

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:58 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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I dont decide these things

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or dont know about them until I see them on gitlab

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or beryl tells me

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:58 AM

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Well hopefully sooner than later hah

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Not only does the server crash but it made our machines completely unresponsive

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RAM usage spiked for some reason

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:58 AM

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When I did the same thing on Host

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is caused infinite loop of 2 scale messages being sent again and again

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As they were different

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:59 AM

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that might explain the RAM usage

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:59 AM

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unique crane or beryl tells me

Berly could make a nuget package :33

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:59 AM

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But idk what happens on the dedicated

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Maybe the role isnt marked as client's?

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and it sends the message back to dedicated,

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?

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Causing the infinite loop

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:00 AM

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maybe

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actually

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is the fix fully serverside?

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because if so I could just patch it in temporarily while waiting for 14.1.2

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:00 AM

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I can show you what I did

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:00 AM

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that would be awesome ^-^

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:00 AM

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Oh also

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Scale property is being set in constructor

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bad idea

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:01 AM

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uh oh

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not ideal yeah

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:02 AM

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Just copied the role sync to a seperate method, removed it from Update

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Actually removed whole Update() method

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And put it there

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Seems to be working fine

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Still waiting for QA

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 9:03 AM

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unique crane Actually removed whole Update() method

Yippee

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:03 AM

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But this sends the role message and whatever you set in the RoleChanged at the end of the frame

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 9:04 AM

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unique crane But this sends the role message and whatever you set in the RoleChanged at the e...

Wait so the RoleSyncInfoPack will still be used, right?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:04 AM

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alright so patch FpcScaleController's ctor to set the backing field, and send the role data immediately instead of on next frame?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:04 AM

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Yeah just like on screenshot

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:04 AM

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sec

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:05 AM

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Sync code remains the same

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as it was in the Update()

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:14 AM

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harmony's giving me trouble patching the ctor

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which is weird

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[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcScaleController), [typeof(FpcMotor)])]
public static class NWFpcScaleControllerFixes
{
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    [HarmonyDebug]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .MatchEndForward(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Call),
                new(OpCodes.Call)
            )
            .Set(OpCodes.Stfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(FpcScaleController), nameof(FpcScaleController._scale)));

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

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this should work

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[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcScaleController), MethodType.Constructor, typeof(FpcMotor))] did it

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weird

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IL_000D: ldarg.0
IL_000E: call       static UnityEngine.Vector3 UnityEngine.Vector3::get_one()
IL_0013: stfld      UnityEngine.Vector3 PlayerRoles.FirstPersonControl.FpcScaleController::_scale

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kk this should be good

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onto the rest

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:20 AM

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grand flower `[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcScaleController), MethodType.Constructor, typeof(FpcMot...

yea u need to specify constructor

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same for enumerators

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and uhh Getters and Setters (but those can technically be done by replacing nameof() with set_Method

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enumerator can too technically using get targetting method thingy prob

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:22 AM

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unique crane But this sends the role message and whatever you set in the RoleChanged at the e...

Wait in that scenario isn't OnRoleChanged supposed to be called before SendNewRoleInfo()?

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or am I missing something

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:22 AM

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No its called after you call the send method

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:23 AM

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alrighty, i'll check if it works once the patches are written

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 10:09 AM

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unique crane

Oh my part of the client now its time to start decomp of sl and rewrite thanks to this piece of code trollfancy

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:25 AM

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IL_008B: call       System.Void PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager::InitializeNewRole(PlayerRoles.RoleTypeId targetId, PlayerRoles.RoleChangeReason reason, PlayerRoles.RoleSpawnFlags spawnFlags, Mirror.NetworkReader data)
IL_0090: ldarg.0
IL_0091: call       static System.Void BrightPlugin.Patches.Fixes.Scale.NWRoleManagerSetRolePatch::SendNewRoleInfo(PlayerRoles.PlayerRoleManager roleManager)

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time to test

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well

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gotta remove all the hacky scaling stuff i did

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Wait a second

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@unique crane just to be certain, with your changes, that means I don't have to wait at all to send fake role sync right

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I can do it in PlayerChangedRole and it'll be received after the real role sync message?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:37 AM

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celest thorn Oh my part of the client now its time to start decomp of sl and rewrite thanks t...

??

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:37 AM

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grand flower I can do it in PlayerChangedRole and it'll be received after the real role sync ...

Should be

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also found out that setting the scale within one frame still crashes the server

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bruh

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 10:37 AM

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unique crane ??

im just joking what i meant by that piece of code we can now fully recreate the client

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:37 AM

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Gotta fix that

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:37 AM

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wut

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so like

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have i been implementing it for no reason

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DogKek

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:38 AM

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What no

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it works

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:38 AM

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grand flower have i been implementing it for no reason

Why do you do transpliers the first time you implement something?

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Just do prefix with return false for checking if it works in the first place

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:39 AM

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takes 3 minutes and I don't have to worry about porting them to transpilers later

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Faster to write

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ookay

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:39 AM

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but fair

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I did do it for Update

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i'm gonna make the delay for fake role sync one frame out of precaution

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if that works i'll try none

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@unique crane can confirm scale works now, kudos

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testing fake role sync on same frame

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it works

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thank you so much

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i'm gonna be able to get rid of so many delays

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:58 AM

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unique crane Still waiting for QA

Cant wait to be in 14.1.2.1

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:58 AM

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grand flower thank you *so much*

Yeah just dont do like

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player.Scale = new Vector3(0.5, 0.5, 0.5);
player.Scale = new Vector3(0.51, 0.51, 0.51);

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this will still crash the server

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:58 AM

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Lmao

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Why

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 10:58 AM

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idk

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I made debug build right now to find out

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:59 AM

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that's spooky

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:59 AM

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Spooky Scary Scale

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 10:59 AM

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spooky scare scale message
that shivers down my spine
-# idk the lyrics

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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can't see how that would like

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break

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just from the decompiled code

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so good luck

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Another day thanking God for "Attach unity debugger"

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:02 AM

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I guess tried to foreach the loop while insufe it?

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:03 AM

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unique crane Another day thanking God for "Attach unity debugger"

Another day of putting debug.log everywhere

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:03 AM

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wouldn't crash like this

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the only thing I could see maybe is this being ran on the host player

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and if you set it twice in the same frame, the first message and the second message play infinite ping pong

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Ye

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:04 AM

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yeah uh

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this also sends to dedicated server

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:04 AM

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Lmao

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:04 AM

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who decided to do that in the constructor

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:05 AM

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david pressed the "attach plugin devs to problem" button

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:05 AM

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*attract

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:06 AM

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079 is fighting back

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it doesn't wanna be fixed

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:06 AM

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Lmao

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:06 AM

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😭

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what if crimson secretly hates you

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Many stuff doesn't wanna be fixed i guess

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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"you and your bright's bullshit"

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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upper vapor what if crimson secretly hates you

for providing a very detailed and 100% reproduceable issue

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😭

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it's a vanilla server too

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like this ain't modded at all

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and can happen in regular gameplay

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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grand flower 079 is fighting back

Can you check the utc date on those

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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they're like

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7 minutes apart

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:08 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275388866207023137/1299798313821929583/wut.gif

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:08 AM

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20 minutes

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2:46 am pdt

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:10 AM

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grand flower and if you set it twice in the same frame, the first message and the second mess...

Thats what happened on Host game, but I dont think it should happen on dedicated?

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I guess it does

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:10 AM

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it's the only thing I could see happening

worn gull Jun 16, 2025, 11:11 AM

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Hi! How can I check from the DamageHandler if the player died in PocketDimension?

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:11 AM

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is UniversalDamageHandler

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.TranslationId == (translation id of pocket dimension)

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(ev.DamageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universal && universal.TranslationId == DeathTranslations.PocketDecay.Id)

worn gull Jun 16, 2025, 11:12 AM

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Thanks

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:12 AM

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hearty shard (ev.DamageHandler is UniversalDamageHandler universal && universal.TranslationId...

d

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:29 AM

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D

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:30 AM

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eez

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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@grand flower Yep

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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no

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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I was right?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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Infinite loop

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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at least it wasn't some esoteric bug

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:31 AM

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But why tf does server receive it again??

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:32 AM

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Interesting fact: you don't have to run the coroutine every round

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:32 AM

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dedi player is also the server right

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so NetworkServer.active would return true

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so when it does .Scale = when receiving the messages

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it sends another

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:32 AM

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Yeah

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well

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SendToHubsConditionally it is

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:33 AM

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i'll apply that to my patches

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:33 AM

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unique crane well

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839367089801527306/1066317864279232522/attachment.gif

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 AM

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unique crane SendToHubsConditionally it is

Exclude server SteamHappy or idk

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 AM

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Yeah

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 AM

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David

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When more events for 3114 and 079

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:36 AM

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unique crane But why tf does server receive it again??

#plugins-dev-chat message

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me when the server is authenticated

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:37 AM

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what's the check again

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to see if a hub is the host

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:38 AM

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isLocalPlayer

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or instancemode dedicated

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:38 AM

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I did I just did hub.authManager.InstanceMode is ReadyClient

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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what if it breaks something niche that the server is supposed to receive toomuchtrolling

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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Hmmm no

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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the whole game has to be tested now

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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upper vapor the whole game has to be tested now

Glad that is not my job

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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im guessing he's only doing it for Scale

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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upper vapor the whole game has to be tested now

No I mean

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I changed just the scale code

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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oh

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phew

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okay

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:39 AM

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from SendToAuth

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to SendToCondtionally

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:40 AM

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gonna test that locally

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:41 AM

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grand flower gonna test that locally

And prob do the same for gravity

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:41 AM

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we don't touch it atm so it's fine

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:41 AM

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grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:42 AM

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[HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcScaleController), nameof(FpcScaleController.Scale), MethodType.Setter)]
public static class NWFpcScaleSetterFixes
{
    [HarmonyPrefix]
    public static bool Prefix(FpcScaleController __instance, Vector3 value)
    {
        if (value == __instance._scale)
        {
            return false;
        }
        
        __instance._scale = value;
        __instance.Hub.transform.localScale = new Vector3(__instance._scale.x, __instance._scale.y, __instance._scale.z);
        if (!NetworkServer.active || __instance.Motor.Hub == null)
        {
            return false;
        }
        
        new SyncedScaleMessages.ScaleMessage(__instance._scale, __instance.Hub)
            .SendToHubsConditionally(hub => hub.authManager && hub.authManager.InstanceMode == ClientInstanceMode.ReadyClient);
        return false;
    }
}

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:42 AM

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wait what I was smoking with the localScale set

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:42 AM

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uh

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oh yeah you can just assign

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LOL

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yep that works

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can assign the scale a billion times now

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awesome

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:44 AM

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unique crane

static n?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:44 AM

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Mini micro nano optimalization of not creating a new delegate object every call

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:44 AM

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i didnt even know that was possible

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:45 AM

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grand flower ```cs [HarmonyPatch(typeof(FpcScaleController), nameof(FpcScaleController.Scale)...

me when [HarmonyPrefix]

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(extra line)

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:45 AM

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I do that too

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You never know

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 11:45 AM

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shock

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:45 AM

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guh

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:45 AM

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It may revolt

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:46 AM

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I'm an Unreal Engine developer

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lines don't scare me

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the coding standards forbid abbreviations

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:47 AM

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grand flower lines don't scare me

Blueprint

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trolling

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 11:47 AM

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guh

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:47 AM

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I very much like Blueprints if you don't use them for gameplay code

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:47 AM

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ofc

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Good for modding (I dont know c++ that good)

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:47 AM

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The worst thing about working for clients is when they do their gameplay in C++, then Blueprints, which calls C++, which calls 3 different Blueprints

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something breaks, I have to hop back and forth between the two and is it exhausting

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They're still good for gameplay, but like

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UI, stuff that designers wanna do, prototyping

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:48 AM

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Yeah prototyping

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:48 AM

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anything that's really the core gameplay you wanna do in C++ otherwise it makes maintenance hell

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:48 AM

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Lets not open my PD3 mod

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project

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spaghetti code got a new meaning

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:49 AM

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DogKek

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Alright it's 5 am

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I opened the PR for Brights, I sleep

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actually fuck forgot something for work bwahaha

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fml

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

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Imagine not having afternoon right now

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

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guess i'm sleeping at 6 am

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

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unique crane Imagine not having afternoon right now

with the way this night's going I'll be there before I sleep

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

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rip

harsh thorn Jun 16, 2025, 11:50 AM

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imagine only just now waking up at 1:50pm

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😎

royal mica Jun 16, 2025, 12:02 PM

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waking up at 8am for meeting pepeW

harsh thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:03 PM

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truly the life

royal mica Jun 16, 2025, 12:09 PM

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i love the endless perpetual morning standup meetings

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 12:24 PM

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unique crane Lets not open my PD3 mod

PD3 is a spagetti

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:45 PM

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random scaffold https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839367089801527306/1066317864279232522/...

Pov developers

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:45 PM

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harsh thorn imagine only just now waking up at 1:50pm

i wake up at 4 am trollfancy

harsh thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:48 PM

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i dont

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:48 PM

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Idk

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i just wake up at 4 am

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my normal routine

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go to sleep at 1 am wake up at 4

harsh thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:50 PM

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that is not enough 😭

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:50 PM

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yea that is

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trollfancy

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i pretty much did it for 5 years

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and hey im still here

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 12:58 PM

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celest thorn go to sleep at 1 am wake up at 4

💀

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:58 PM

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unique crane 💀

yea i know

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when you develop for american servers

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thats what you gonna do

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 12:59 PM

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How are you still alive

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:59 PM

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unique crane How are you still alive

idk im alive

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and + this is useful for exams

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trollfancy

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 12:59 PM

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Ah yes 3 hour sleep is useful for exams right

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I would die if I went to my maturita with 3 hours of sleep

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 12:59 PM

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unique crane Ah yes 3 hour sleep is useful for exams right

nah i mean its useful because i don't feel anything

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:00 PM

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unique crane I would die if I went to my maturita with 3 hours of sleep

Wait is it called like that everywhere?

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i thought it was called like that only in italy

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trollfancy

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 1:00 PM

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matura

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maturita

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:00 PM

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yea? that comes from latin / italian

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 1:00 PM

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Its called maturita in czech republic

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:00 PM

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unique crane Its called maturita in czech republic

fr crazy

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:17 PM

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érettségi

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dead

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:32 PM

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upper vapor érettségi

yea idk what that mean

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but probably exams

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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matura

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yea

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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ah

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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it's uh

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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ok

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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"érett" = mature
plus a bunch of suffixes

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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crazy

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:34 PM

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matureness-an

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that sounds so wrong

celest thorn Jun 16, 2025, 1:35 PM

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upper vapor that sounds so wrong

maturiˈta

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thats how it sounds in italian

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https://forvo.com/word/maturità/

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 1:36 PM

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RockApproves

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 1:49 PM

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unique crane I would die if I went to my maturita with 3 hours of sleep

Well yeah can confirm would die too

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After finished my maturita can't really woke up at 8 am

royal mica Jun 16, 2025, 2:09 PM

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upper vapor érettségi

despair Zh

icy wraith Jun 16, 2025, 2:16 PM

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Is it me, or changing the scale with the new scalefpccontroller when the role is chznged crashes the server?

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 2:17 PM

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Yes known

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David and Cyn fixed it

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Scroll up you see cyns patch

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Or wait till 14.1.2 (or 14.1.1.1 ClassDTroll1 )

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 2:33 PM

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icy wraith Is it me, or changing the scale with the new scalefpccontroller when the role is...

0.1 delay

icy wraith Jun 16, 2025, 2:34 PM

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Thanks!

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 3:33 PM

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royal mica <:despair:1088679725075005482> Zh

Vizsga Fear

ionic prawn Jun 16, 2025, 3:34 PM

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how should i add text to the screen like who is spectating you, what effects you have

royal mica Jun 16, 2025, 3:35 PM

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ionic prawn how should i add text to the screen like who is spectating you, what effects you...

player.ShowHint

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 3:35 PM

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create a hint framework

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or use ruei

royal mica Jun 16, 2025, 3:35 PM

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yYeah was about to suggest https://canary.discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1375005422624313364 😄

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 4:43 PM

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some plugins show the hint their player is experiencing to the spectator which is cook

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it may be proprietary

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 4:49 PM

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it takes one extension method shrug

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 4:52 PM

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With the new scale module in the fpc thingy, what would be the intended way of getting the fpc thing and then setting a players height?
Im not that well-versed with the things

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 4:55 PM

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plain gazelle With the new scale module in the fpc thingy, what would be the intended way of g...

layer.Scale.y += 0.5; i think

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If not works just.
Var lsc = Player.scale;
lsc.y += 0.5;
Player.scale = lsc;

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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plain gazelle With the new scale module in the fpc thingy, what would be the intended way of g...

also, be aware of this #plugins-dev-chat message

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add a bit of delay if you do it on role change

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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restive turret If not works just. Var lsc = Player.scale; lsc.y += 0.5; Player.scale = lsc;

Oh, that easy? Alright then

The height script for our server was made by someone else and still uses Exiled, but since 14.1.1 we have the issue of players feet being in the ground.....
I hope LabAPIs Player doesnt do that

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Yeah happened on our end too

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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With Exiled or LabAPI?

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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Might need to tp up after applying high

true cedar Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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teal junco some plugins show the hint their player is experiencing to the spectator which i...

maybe i add that to ruei :3

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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restive turret Might need to tp up after applying high

atm jumping or falling or anything doesnt fix it. They still have their feet in the ground

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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plain gazelle With Exiled or LabAPI?

Server has both, using the old then new stuff idk which one was broken

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I certainly think it was the new .Scale

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 5:06 PM

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hmm ill see, thank you

true cedar Jun 16, 2025, 5:07 PM

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i need to figure out how to support animated hint parameters

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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true cedar i need to figure out how to support animated hint parameters

wait til hint effects TrollDespair

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wait why wasnt the animation stuff a hint effect 😭

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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icy knoll wait why wasnt the animation stuff a hint effect 😭

what

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:13 PM

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there is hint params and hint effects

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why wasnt the animation a hint effect? or does it only affect {0} {1} stuff or?

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:13 PM

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#nullable disable
namespace Hints
{
  public class AnimationCurveHintParameter : HintParameter
  {
    [OriginalAttributes(FieldAttributes.Private)]
    public double _offset;
    [OriginalAttributes(FieldAttributes.Private)]
    public string _format;
    [OriginalAttributes(FieldAttributes.Private)]
    public bool _integral;
    [OriginalAttributes(FieldAttributes.Private)]
    public AnimationCurve _curve;

    public static AnimationCurveHintParameter FromNetwork(NetworkReader reader)
    {
      AnimationCurveHintParameter curveHintParameter = new AnimationCurveHintParameter();
      curveHintParameter.Deserialize(reader);
      return curveHintParameter;
    }

    public AnimationCurveHintParameter(
      double offset,
      AnimationCurve curve,
      string format,
      bool integral)
    {
      this._offset = offset;
      this._curve = curve;
      this._format = format;
      this._integral = integral;
    }

    public override void Serialize(NetworkWriter writer)
    {
      writer.WriteDouble(this._offset);
      writer.WriteString(this._format);
      writer.WriteBool(this._integral);
      writer.WriteAnimationCurve(this._curve);
    }

    public override void Deserialize(NetworkReader reader)
    {
      this._offset = reader.ReadDouble();
      this._format = reader.ReadString();
      this._integral = reader.ReadBool();
      this._curve = reader.ReadAnimationCurve();
    }

    [OriginalAttributes(MethodAttributes.Family)]
    public override string UpdateState(float progress)
    {
      float f = this._curve.Evaluate((float) (NetworkTime.time - this._offset));
      return this._integral ? Mathf.RoundToInt(f).ToString(this._format, (IFormatProvider) CultureInfo.InvariantCulture) : f.ToString(this._format, (IFormatProvider) CultureInfo.InvariantCulture);
    }
  }
}

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 5:15 PM

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icy knoll wait why wasnt the animation stuff a hint effect 😭

hint effects are just predefined client sided animation curves

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effects also apply to the entire hint which isnt very usefull if you use a hint combiner

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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so how do animation curve hint providers work?

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only replace stuff in string.Format() or?

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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same as any other param

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:19 PM

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worthy rune effects also apply to the entire hint which isnt very usefull if you use a hint ...

northwood should pull a sigma and make UI elements networkable

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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teal junco northwood should pull a sigma and make UI elements networkable

Me putting a 4K Advertisement onto death people screen to buy a "2nd life" pack on patrooon

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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worthy rune same as any other param

yeah ok so it replaces {0} and stuff then ok

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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true cedar i need to figure out how to support animated hint parameters

legit just do the same as any normal param lol

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:23 PM

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icy knoll legit just do the same as any normal param lol

u have to track the progress tho :)

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:23 PM

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hearty shard u have to track the progress tho :)

huh

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can you show how it works or smth 😭

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:23 PM

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most things you do new()

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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icy knoll can you show how it works or smth 😭

what

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i did

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public override string UpdateState(float progress)
    {
      float f = this._curve.Evaluate((float) (NetworkTime.time - this._offset));
      return this._integral ? Mathf.RoundToInt(f).ToString(this._format, (IFormatProvider) CultureInfo.InvariantCulture) : f.ToString(this._format, (IFormatProvider) CultureInfo.InvariantCulture);
    }

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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no like

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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it updates state

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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how to set it up

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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hearty shard ```cs public override string UpdateState(float progress) { float f = t...

i assumed this was called on the client

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i didnt know you update the state 😭

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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client does update it

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yeah

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but if you send a new one

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to a player

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i highly doubt itll save the old one

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cuz what if you want to change it

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what if you are sending a completely different one

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 5:26 PM

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you should use NetworkTime.time somewhere in the offset if you dont want discontinuities

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:26 PM

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ah

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alright

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 5:28 PM

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you can see in the UpdateState that it uses NetworkTime.time as the way to keep everything in sync

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:31 PM

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restive turret Me putting a 4K Advertisement onto death people screen to buy a "2nd life" pack ...

Holy Team Fortress 2

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imagine the Unity HTML embeds

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Uh @unique crane question

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The changes you gave me apparently break the black screen

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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teal junco imagine the Unity HTML embeds

unity rich text isn't html smh

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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huh

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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If you get killed

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Your screen turns to black

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After a while

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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icy knoll unity rich text isn't html smh

Well Im not referring to rich text, im pretty sure UI has a html embed but idk

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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And apparently what you gave me breaks that feature

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I wonder if I can just like, only make it happen if your new role is spectator

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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Oookay

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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networked UI elements would be fire though

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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teal junco networked UI elements would be fire though

me when people start putting ads on their server

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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so i can spawn a text element using a specific font in a specific spot on a players screen

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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gonna eat my dinner and then look at it

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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icy knoll me when people start putting ads on their server

can already happen trolling

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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icy knoll me when people start putting ads on their server

Theyre too pussy to do it with HSM or Ruei

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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Nvm its worse

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Just getting shot does it

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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AFoxy_HUH

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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I would have sold out already and added 5000 Hint ads

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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what?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

#

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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wtf XDDDDDDD

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Bro blackout from being shot

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 PM

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🔥

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 PM

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david why r u breaking everything

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 PM

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david as a LabAPI broker ClassDTroll1

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:36 PM

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Let me see if it happens in the branch build

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:41 PM

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@unique crane it only happens after dying and respawning once

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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grand flower

typical nw moment

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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it was too good to be true

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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but how you blackout

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im wanna too

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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😭

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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@unique crane say me how i can blackout the player

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if you find it

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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grand flower <@282125275930820608> it only happens after dying and respawning once

Actually I found much bigger issue

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The blackout doesnt go away when you die

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:44 PM

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Fun

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The camera also goes wonky

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So yeah we're just reverting

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:45 PM

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grand flower The camera also goes wonky

?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:45 PM

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Spectating a player

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Looks weird

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Ignore QA spamming explosions

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 5:46 PM

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david what has thy done

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:47 PM

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Sabotaged Bright's /s

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I hope there's a solution because your changes are great

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 5:49 PM

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grand flower Spectating a player

Whats wrong with that uh?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Player is shown at 0 0 0

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For the spectator

#

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:03 PM

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@grand flower new idea: Instead of removing the 1 frame delay we move the event to the 1 frame delay

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And keep the scale fix ofc

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 6:04 PM

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Uh

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Hm

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Maybe

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I'd check if you're still able to get the event to run for when the player disconnects

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(Destroyed role)

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But that could work

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The only downside to this is that changing/changed will now run on different frames

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Dunno if that'll break anyone's code

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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why does giving items in PlayerSpawnedEventArgs not work? I have a log that says that an item should be given to a player but it's not, when it's directly before it

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do I need to do Timing.CallDelayed() on this or? 😭

foggy stirrup Jun 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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use exiled

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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foggy stirrup use exiled

no?

foggy stirrup Jun 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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yes

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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i just migrated off of exiled because i dont like it anymore

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all my future plugins arent going to use exiled either

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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there should be a receiving loadout event, use that instead

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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so lets not say "use exiled instead" whenever someone asks a labapi question, ok?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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worthy rune there should be a receiving loadout event, use that instead

does that work for class ds even if they dont have a loadout?

foggy stirrup Jun 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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icy knoll so lets not say "use exiled instead" whenever someone asks a labapi question, ok...

ragebait

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 6:20 PM

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icy knoll does that work for class ds even if they dont have a loadout?

i would hope so

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:21 PM

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foggy stirrup ragebait

let's not do that either then, because it's super annoying

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:21 PM

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worthy rune i would hope so

lets try and see then

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 6:21 PM

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Programmers are getting younger and younger by the day, impressive

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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lets hope and pray

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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icy knoll does that work for class ds even if they dont have a loadout?

i would assume they have the empty loadout, since its gets cleared if you do assign loadout through RA

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if that makes sense

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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hmm

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yeah

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also, is it possible to change the volume of a message via PlayerReceivingVoiceMessageEventArgs?

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like only on that specific players side

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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decode, amplify, encode

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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well

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it gives the data

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so dont need to decode do I?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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do you have the samples?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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just the byte[]

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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you gotta decode that

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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is there in-game methods for that?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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use an OpusDecoder and OpusEncoder

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:31 PM

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me when OpusDecoder requires the samples to decode

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husk

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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no

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it needs a buffer to decode to

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

#

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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also you're probably gonna have horrible performance by doing so

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:33 PM

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upper vapor also you're probably gonna have horrible performance by doing so

wdym

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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he means opus decoder and encoder every frame i think

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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i managed to crash the server (and sometimes clients) with like 10 encoders in parallel

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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hmm

teal junco Jun 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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is there a more direct way to amplify

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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no

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it's opus

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highly compressed audio

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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maybe i need to save the decoded message once it's being sent, and then grab it in the recieve

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idk what would be the best method for that tho...

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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yeah that's better

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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how would you guys recommend that be done?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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Or put them into seperate queue for processing

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and sent when they are ready

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on seperate thread

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ofc

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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wait

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ig i could use Opus stuff on a seperate thread

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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also, can you do this with speaker toys?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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wouldnt tank performance then no?

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:36 PM

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ofc

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Why not

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:37 PM

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upper vapor also, can you do this with speaker toys?

I guess?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:37 PM

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upper vapor also, can you do this with speaker toys?

scp proximity chat does this

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:37 PM

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icy knoll wouldnt tank performance then no?

No but there is gonna be slight audio delay

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But like

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Try it and seeeee

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:37 PM

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then you should switch to speaker toys and sync vars

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:37 PM

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nevermind then id rather it be as quick as possible then 😭

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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upper vapor then you should switch to speaker toys and sync vars

me when im legit adding a volume slider for intercom husk

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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Well like I would try it and see

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If its just one decode and encode

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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i'll have something for that soon™️ :3

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they made the tm bigger?????

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:39 PM

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ig

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but like

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:39 PM

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?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:39 PM

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what would you guys recommend for this fr 😭

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different thread for each reciever

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decode during sending

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or

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a different method

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i just dont know how id handle decode during sending and then grabbing on recieving

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seems quite hard 😭

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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@unique crane Watcha think about a "PlayerRoleSent" event

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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considering the data is coming in like that quickly

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Called in that Update function after sending the data to the players

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That way you don't break the changed event

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Although it can be a bit more confusing for devs

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Yeah..

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 6:40 PM

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Yeah nvm

#

Well hopefully the changed event being there doesn't break anything

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:42 PM

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icy knoll different thread for each reciever

maybe...?

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hopefully opus supports multiple threads

#

you also gotta initialize and dispose of the decoder in that thread

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:43 PM

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simple

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:43 PM

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how about Awaitables instead

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:43 PM

#

show

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idk what those are

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i know what await is

#

promise ofc

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:45 PM

#

public static Awaitable SendAmplified(VoiceMessage message, List<Player> targets)
{
    await Awaitable.BackgroundThreadAsync();
    // decode, amplify, encode
    await Awaitable.MainThreadAsync();
    // send
}

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personalizing this is not nice with voice messages

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:46 PM

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wdym as send? like send to client? isn't that bad on another thread?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:46 PM

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await Awaitable.MainThreadAsync();

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:49 PM

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yeah but you did // send after that

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what do i send 😭

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ohhhh

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you send it back to the main thread

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gotcha

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:52 PM

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yeea

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Smart

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:53 PM

#

upper vapor ```csharp public static Awaitable SendAmplified(VoiceMessage message, List<Playe...

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public static Awaitable ModifyVolume

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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make it async

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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async Awaitable

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ah

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gotcha

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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i forgor

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 6:59 PM

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upper vapor i forgor

smth like this?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 6:59 PM

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do NOT reallocate the buffers 😭

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also using OpusEncoder

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and decoder

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otherwise it looks good :3

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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upper vapor do NOT reallocate the buffers 😭

so set msg to be a new instance or smth?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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well... you still have to send the message

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can't send the same thing to everyone

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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it's a ref, no?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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you can group by volume

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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so it wont update on everyone's client right?

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or nah

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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wait so you wanna personalize it?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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every client will have a different volume set

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

#

yeah

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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so i want everyone to kind of have a different voice message come out lol

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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you can't have ref params in async methods
voicemessage is a struct anway

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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with different volumes

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so how would you say I do this?

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because im stuck here now 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:02 PM

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speakertoys and fake sync vars

#

side effect: local muting doesn't work

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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upper vapor speakertoys and fake sync vars

i am not putting a speaker toy in replace of every 079 speaker there is already for intercom 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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oh

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you wanna control the volume of each player

#

per client

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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i just wanna control the volume of intercom via server specific settings

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that's it

#

rn ive got a two button setting that lets you mute

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works fine

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but i wanna make it a volume instead

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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intercom is not spatial though

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or you wanted to send it through 079 speakers?

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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well intercom does go through 079 speakers right?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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no

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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damn

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so like is this even possible then? 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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just make a non-spatial speaker toy

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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on each player?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:05 PM

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no

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fake sync vars :3

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but then you won't have the intercom reverb

#

ugh

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:06 PM

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this is starting to sound a bit more impossible now 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:06 PM

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okay

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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icy knoll smth like this?

back to this

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group the receivers by volume setting (linq has groupby)

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decode once for each packet

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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upper vapor group the receivers by volume setting (linq has groupby)

me when most people will probably have a diffent volume setting 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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amplify per group

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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icy knoll me when most people will probably have a diffent volume setting 😭

i'd assume some keep it on 1

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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fair

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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make it a dropdown with like 5 options toomuchtrolling

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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upper vapor group the receivers by volume setting (linq has groupby)

yes but how would I store this? wont there be like some sort of conflict tryna get from a list or smth?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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in the sending event

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:09 PM

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imagine if it gets the wrong value or smth

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idk

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:10 PM

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how

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:10 PM

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icy knoll imagine if it gets the wrong value or smth

what

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:10 PM

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like

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OnSending => List.Add(msg)

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OnRecieving => List????

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:10 PM

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uh

#

no

#

cancel the event

#

send the original message to those who have it on 100%

#

group the rest

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:11 PM

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upper vapor send the original message to those who have it on 100%

now ur confusing me

#

this sounds like smth for recieving not sending 😭

pine parcel Jun 16, 2025, 7:12 PM

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upper vapor LabApi wiki

Is it just the github in #labapi-information ? The docs don't seem to cover all the classes, methods, and datatypes that I imagine we have access to

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:14 PM

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icy knoll this sounds like smth for recieving not sending 😭

you have the voice message in sending

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cancel the sending event

#

send the message yourself

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:18 PM

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ohhh so modify on sending

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*does sending tell you who the msg is being sent to? 😭 *

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:27 PM

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it's the intercom message

#

you don't need to know the receivers, everyone is

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:29 PM

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what about in proximity chat msgs tho and stuff

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:29 PM

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you want proximity chat volume too?

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kind of a death wish

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:29 PM

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scp proximity chat

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:30 PM

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have you tried

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telling the players to stop crying

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that would be more ideal with speakers tbf

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:34 PM

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upper vapor telling the players to stop crying

like

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so many have said

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"it's too loud"

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i disagree

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😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:35 PM

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have they paid for your patreon

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on your server

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if not, silence peasants toomuchtrolling

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oh i get why it's too loud

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cuz it isn't spatial

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honestly

#

make proximity chat with speakers

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and see if thedy're happy

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:39 PM

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the plugin i use does use speakers

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lol

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https://github.com/BoltonDev/ScpProximityChat/tree/master

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sadly it is exiled

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as idk a labapi version and im too lazy to code it 😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:40 PM

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me when a player leaving doesn't remove the opush handler

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:41 PM

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😭

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:41 PM

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i love memory leaks

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:41 PM

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wait

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this means that this constantly will use more and more memory 😭

#

wait nvm

#

wait nvm again

#

mb

#

lol

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 7:44 PM

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icy knoll this means that this constantly will use more and more memory 😭

Its not shutting down

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https://tenor.com/view/paintnet-gif-3988273812756336542

Tenor

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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well

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hopefully someone makes scp prox chat in labapi soon

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Do it

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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and it isn't chatgpt code

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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unique crane https://tenor.com/view/paintnet-gif-3988273812756336542

lmao

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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unique crane Do it

im too lazy david!

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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do i speedrun it

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Then just say no to laziness

#

lol

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:46 PM

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and id probably require secretapi for it or smth so that i could make player specific volume ssss stuff

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:46 PM

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i can stream the speedrun in vc :3

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:46 PM

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icy knoll and id probably require secretapi for it or smth so that i could make player spe...

this would be really cool

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because idk ssss stuff without secretapi or exiled

#

and exiled is pretty crap for that stuff 😭

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:47 PM

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upper vapor i can stream the speedrun in vc :3

dont speedrun too hard that you forget to patch memory leaks TrollDespair

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:47 PM

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i won't mem leak

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:49 PM

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upper vapor i won't mem leak

mhmmmmm

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 7:49 PM

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upper vapor i won't mem leak

No fun

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 7:50 PM

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upper vapor i won't mem leak

when stream then TrollDespair

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:50 PM

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im hypixleing so

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in sopme minutes

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 7:57 PM

#

Player.Inventory.ServerRemoveItem requires a ItemPickupBase, but i only have an Item. How can i use this function if i dont have a Pickup, since it is in their Inventory?

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:58 PM

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set it to null

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if you just wanna remove it

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 7:58 PM

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Ohhh, that is what it would "become"
Alright, thank you

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 7:59 PM

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also if you have the player i'm pretty sure you could just player.RemoveItem(item)

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 8:00 PM

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I tried that but for some reason it leaves a ghost item in my inventory until i update it

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:00 PM

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icy knoll when stream then <:TrollDespair:1198744721598722208>

what timezone are you in

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:00 PM

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plain gazelle I tried that but for some reason it leaves a ghost item in my inventory until i ...

wha

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 8:00 PM

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upper vapor what timezone are you in

BST

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 8:01 PM

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upper vapor wha

Give revolver
Hold revolver
player.RemoveItem(revolver.Base)
Ingame the Revolver gets 'holstered'
Cant take it back out by clicking it
Cant drop it by clicking it
If i pick up a new item like a medkit, the revolver disappears out of my inventory

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So like, it gets deleted server side, but not client side, idk

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 8:04 PM

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player.RemoveItem and Player.Inventory.ServerRemoveItem are the same, could we see the code you wrote?

plain gazelle Jun 16, 2025, 8:06 PM

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Oh i think i accidentally did
player.Inventory.UserInventory.Items.Remove
wups :x

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:06 PM

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oops

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 PM

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@unique crane about to patch the PlayerRoleChanged event to be in Update() after sendNextFrame

#

Did you try it yet? If not I'll just let you know how that goes

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 8:13 PM

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No I didnt yet

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:14 PM

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Fingers crossed nothing breaks

#

sl modding moment

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 8:25 PM

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nw moment

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:27 PM

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having a second monitor with dotpeek is sweet

#

can just copy il over

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 8:27 PM

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@icy knoll you up?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 8:31 PM

#

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager.Update))]
public static class NWRoleManagerDisableUpdate
{
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    [HarmonyDebug]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Update_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .End()
            .MatchEndBackwards(new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ret))
            .Advance(-1) // Go behind the ret
            .Insert(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager._hub))),
                new(OpCodes.Ldloc_1),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Call, AccessTools.PropertyGetter(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager.CurrentRole))),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_2),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_3),
                new(OpCodes.Newobj, AccessTools.Constructor(typeof(PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs),
                    [typeof(ReferenceHub), typeof(RoleTypeId), typeof(PlayerRoleBase), typeof(RoleChangeReason), typeof(RoleSpawnFlags)])),
                new(OpCodes.Call, AccessTools.Method(typeof(PlayerEvents), nameof(PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole)))
            );

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

// Removes the call to PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole() to move it to Update.
[HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager.ServerSetRole))]
public static class NWRoleManagerSetRolePatch
{
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    [HarmonyDebug]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> ServerSetRole_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .MatchEndForward(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldc_I4_1),
                new(OpCodes.Stfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager._sendNextFrame)))
            )
            .Advance(1);

        // Removes LabApi.Events.Handlers.PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole(new PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs(this._hub, roleTypeId, this.CurrentRole, reason, spawnFlags));
        return matcher
            .RemoveInstructions(matcher.Remaining)
            .InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

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should hopefully work

#

let's see

#

ah fuck

#

can't access the reason

#

from Update()

#

fuck it no more transpilers

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 8:53 PM

#

@rare hinge yo how did u fix the

                                   at Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeGenerator.FromFileBatch (System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters options, System.String[] fileNames) [0x00186] in <fba24a13802445559d6435422e829b75>:0
                                   at Microsoft.CSharp.CSharpCodeGenerator.System.CodeDom.Compiler.ICodeCompiler.CompileAssemblyFromFileBatch (System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters options, System.String[] fileNames) [0x0003a] in <fba24a13802445559d6435422e829b75>:0
                                   at System.CodeDom.Compiler.CodeDomProvider.CompileAssemblyFromFile (System.CodeDom.Compiler.CompilerParameters options, System.String[] fileNames) [0x00006] in <fba24a13802445559d6435422e829b75>:0``` 
error?

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 9:09 PM

#

how i can get path to .config\SCP Secret Laboratory\LabAPI\configs?

#

from configuration loader or something

upper vapor Jun 16, 2025, 9:09 PM

#

PathManager

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 9:09 PM

#

magic

true cedar Jun 16, 2025, 9:13 PM

#

grand flower ```cs [HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager.Update))...

my evil plan to get people to start using codematchers is working

unique crane Jun 16, 2025, 9:14 PM

#

true cedar my evil plan to get people to start using codematchers is working

That is very evil plan

icy knoll Jun 16, 2025, 9:15 PM

#

true cedar my evil plan to get people to start using codematchers is working

code matcher is peak

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:43 PM

#


[HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerRoleManager))]
public static class NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches
{
    private static readonly Dictionary<uint, PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs> _pendingEvents = new();
    
    public static void OnChangedRole(PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs args)
    {
        _pendingEvents.Remove(args.Player.NetworkId);
        
        // Role is destroyed/none, fire immediately.
        if (args.NewRole.RoleTypeId is (RoleTypeId.Destroyed or RoleTypeId.None))
        {
            PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole(args);
            return;
        }
        
        // Add the event to the player's pending events, which will be used on the next frame.
        _pendingEvents[args.Player.NetworkId] = args;
    }

    public static void FirePendingEvents(ReferenceHub hub)
    {
        var player = Player.Get(hub);

        if (!player.IsValid())
        {
            return;
        }

        if (_pendingEvents.TryGetValue(player.NetworkId, out var args))
        {
            PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole(args);
            _pendingEvents.Remove(player.NetworkId);
        }
    }
    
    [HarmonyPatch(nameof(PlayerRoleManager.Update))]
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    [HarmonyDebug]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Update_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .End()
            .MatchEndBackwards(new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ret))
            .SetOpcodeAndAdvance(OpCodes.Nop)
            .InsertAndAdvance(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager._hub))),
                new(OpCodes.Call, AccessTools.Method(typeof(NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches), nameof(FirePendingEvents)))
            );

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
    
    [HarmonyPatch(nameof(PlayerRoleManager.ServerSetRole))]
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    [HarmonyDebug]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> ServerSetRole_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .MatchEndForward(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld),
                new(OpCodes.Ldloc_1),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Call),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_2),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_3),
                new(OpCodes.Newobj),
                new(OpCodes.Call)
            )
            .SetOperandAndAdvance(AccessTools.Method(typeof(NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches), nameof(OnChangedRole)));

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

#

trying this

#

@unique crane so it works

#

however the first time the player spawns it seems to work differently?

#

like

#

hmmm

#

Everything seems to work fine

#

the bugs are gone

#

i'll debug why the scale isn't correct on first spawn

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 9:54 PM

#

Cyn, is harmony's UnpatchAll removes every patch and not just patches that made with only that assembly?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:55 PM

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unsure

#

we don't remove em because memory leaks

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

#

oh it does?

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

#

restive turret Cyn, is harmony's UnpatchAll removes every patch and not just patches that made ...

It removes all

#

Yes

#

i think

#

i might be schizo

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

#

how much roughly

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

#

I remember that being a bug

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

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worthy rune how much roughly

I haven't tested personally

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

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Idk tho
I always unregister with the id

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 9:56 PM

#

I just saw it as a comment in our codebase and decided not to ask questions

#

DogKek

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:57 PM

#

restive turret Idk tho I always unregister with the id

idk

#

oh i think

#

its cuz harmony.UnPatchAll()

#

Without supplying an id

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 9:57 PM

#

you can do this harmony.UnpatchAll(harmony.Id);

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:57 PM

#

Yeah

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 9:57 PM

#

if you only want to unpatch the ones you applied to that instance

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:57 PM

#

The issue is that when you dont specify id despite it being part of the instance method.. it does all

#

Idk why

#

Harmony moment

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 9:58 PM

#

yeah xD

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 9:58 PM

#

Nice, ye just wastn sure,
Time to suggest into https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/1384288396637110434

#

HmmNoted

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 9:58 PM

#

shouldve been static method but oh well

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 9:59 PM

#

Anyway, sad that SL doesn't ship mono.exe on server

#

Fear

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:02 PM

#

now I have a weird bug

#

ServerSetRole fires PlayerChangedRole

#

But Update never calls

#

hmmm

#

it's if you call Server Set Role inside PlayerRoleChanged

#

oops

#

@unique crane Looks like this would solve it, excellent idea

#

we're gonna put it on our test server and get players to hang out on it a little to make sure it doesn't implode

#

But tldr what I did was:

In ServerSetRole, only call PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole immediately if the new role is Destroyed or None (unsure None is needed but w/e)
If it isn't, hold the changed role args.
In Update(), after sending the role sync data, if there's a pending event, execute it.

#

Bonus is you can set the player's position/rotation in PlayerChangedRole now and it works with no delays

#

Pog

#

[HarmonyPatch(typeof(PlayerRoleManager))]
public static class NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches
{
    private static readonly Dictionary<uint, PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs> _pendingEvents = new();
    
    public static void OnChangedRole(PlayerChangedRoleEventArgs args)
    {
        _pendingEvents.Remove(args.Player.NetworkId);
        
        // Role is destroyed/none, fire immediately.
        if (args.NewRole.RoleTypeId is (RoleTypeId.Destroyed or RoleTypeId.None))
        {
            PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole(args);
            return;
        }
        
        // Add the event to the player's pending events, which will be used on the next frame.
        _pendingEvents[args.Player.NetworkId] = args;
    }

    public static void FirePendingEvents(ReferenceHub hub)
    {
        var player = Player.Get(hub);

        if (!player.IsValid())
        {
            return;
        }

        if (_pendingEvents.TryGetValue(player.NetworkId, out var args))
        {
            _pendingEvents.Remove(player.NetworkId);
            PlayerEvents.OnChangedRole(args);
        }
    }
    
    [HarmonyPatch(nameof(PlayerRoleManager.Update))]
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Update_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .End()
            .MatchEndBackwards(new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ret))
            .SetOpcodeAndAdvance(OpCodes.Nop)
            .InsertAndAdvance(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld, AccessTools.Field(typeof(PlayerRoleManager), nameof(PlayerRoleManager._hub))),
                new(OpCodes.Call, AccessTools.Method(typeof(NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches), nameof(FirePendingEvents)))
            );

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
    
    [HarmonyPatch(nameof(PlayerRoleManager.ServerSetRole))]
    [HarmonyTranspiler]
    public static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> ServerSetRole_Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> instructions, MethodBase method, ILGenerator generator)
    {
        var matcher = new CodeMatcher(instructions, generator)
            .MatchEndForward(
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Ldfld),
                new(OpCodes.Ldloc_1),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0),
                new(OpCodes.Call),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_2),
                new(OpCodes.Ldarg_3),
                new(OpCodes.Newobj),
                new(OpCodes.Call)
            )
            .SetOperandAndAdvance(AccessTools.Method(typeof(NWPlayerRoleManagerPatches), nameof(OnChangedRole)));

        return matcher.InstructionEnumeration();
    }
}

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 10:22 PM

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Can someone explain where is the rule that prohibits the use of AI generated images ?

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:23 PM

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I'd contact moderation directly

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#discord-support message

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 10:24 PM

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It is not really nice to delete 2 posts with plugins without explanation (I could have just deleted the attachment from the topic)

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:24 PM

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I love discord forums breaking my phone

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:27 PM

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flat vine Can someone explain where is the rule that prohibits the use of AI generated ima...

We don't have an explicit rule against using AI generated art in #server-rules however we generally don't really allow any AI generated art on this server, so for the sake of consistency we've removed your 2 posts, feel free to post them again without the pictures.

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 10:28 PM

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languid temple We don't have an explicit rule against using AI generated art in <#5075157038641...

What was the problem with asking me to delete the attachment ? And can I use an image not generated by the AI ?

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:31 PM

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languid temple We don't have an explicit rule against using AI generated art in <#5075157038641...

Am I blind or I don't see any mention of AI there Fear

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 10:32 PM

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restive turret Am I blind or I don't see any mention of AI there<:Fear:1172595228193067138>

That's what he's saying, there's no such rule

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:32 PM

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restive turret Am I blind or I don't see any mention of AI there<:Fear:1172595228193067138>

Ah its in the #art-showcase 's Metadata

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Or whatever dc calls that

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 10:33 PM

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restive turret Ah its in the <#472407174501629972> 's Metadata

Except that they deleted 2 of my topics from the #1336031121699377213 🫠

restive turret Jun 16, 2025, 10:34 PM

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Not my issue, I dont use AI for these stuff ClassDTroll1

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:42 PM

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flat vine What was the problem with asking me to delete the attachment ? And can I use an ...

I'm sorry for the inconvenience this may cause (since you have to repost them) but we've decided this way. Feel free to use any images that was not generated by AI, additionally I'd mention that since this is just a 0 warning this just served as notice instead an actual warn.

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 10:42 PM

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languid temple I'm sorry for the inconvenience this may cause (since you have to repost them) b...

Wtf is a 0 warning

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whys there points

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pls explain thanks

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:43 PM

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hearty shard Wtf is a 0 warning

#server-rules message

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 10:45 PM

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languid temple https://discord.com/channels/330432627649544202/507515703864197141/1375545632156...

yea but whats the points for

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well

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not what do they do but how are they used

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the rules specify amount of warns = punishment, unless im blind i dont see anything related to how the warning points are used

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:49 PM

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hearty shard the rules specify amount of warns = punishment, unless im blind i dont see anyth...

First point just a warning nothing happens, expires after 4 weeks, when you already have a warning and you receive another you are softbanned (kicked and iirc the last day's messages are removed), this expires in 8 weeks, 3rd warning point immediate perma mute by cassie which you need to appeal

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 10:50 PM

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languid temple First point just a warning nothing happens, expires after 4 weeks, when you alre...

Oh

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Point as in

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oh

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😭

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Why what did you think?

hearty shard Jun 16, 2025, 10:50 PM

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Like youd give different punishments different amount of points

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But instead its literally just a counter of the amount

languid temple Jun 16, 2025, 10:51 PM

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ye

slender lynx Jun 16, 2025, 10:54 PM

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@flat vine make them in ms paint

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ClassDTroll

grand flower Jun 16, 2025, 10:54 PM

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pog

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 11:04 PM

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slender lynx <@957385212071936041> make them in ms paint

done 🐟

slender lynx Jun 16, 2025, 11:05 PM

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flat vine done 🐟

this is the best plugin of all time

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knowyourcoroutines is crazy useful

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 11:06 PM

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give me some time to do some Photoshop

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:32 PM

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how i can disable limit to view?

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 11:32 PM

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random scaffold how i can disable limit to view?

FogControl

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 PM

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flat vine FogControl

how much?

worthy rune Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 PM

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1

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 PM

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☝️

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:34 PM

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HmmNoted

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MAGIC

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how much render distance?

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for primitives

flat vine Jun 16, 2025, 11:36 PM

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random scaffold how much render distance?

> 70 meters/units

random scaffold Jun 16, 2025, 11:57 PM

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how much need intensity?

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intensity 50 now

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and range 120

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Whenever teleporting a player to another player that's in an elevator, is there a way to force the teleported player's waypoint to be the elevator's?

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that way it doesn't fall through it?

random scaffold Jun 17, 2025, 2:46 AM

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0, 0.25

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 3:49 AM

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also, is there a way to increase the jump height of SCP-096

carmine prawn Jun 17, 2025, 4:14 AM

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Player.Gravity

unique crane Jun 17, 2025, 4:46 AM

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grand flower Whenever teleporting a player to another player that's in an elevator, is there ...

This doesn't normally happens

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When you teleport to someone while in the elevator

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:01 AM

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restive turret Idk tho I always unregister with the id

yeah that's good
i've managed to call unpatched one time and i was wondering where all the features went Kek

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@icy knoll btw, the SSSS keybind doesn't work whatsoever, no log

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-# with secretapi

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 5:10 AM

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unique crane This doesn't normally happens

yeah turns out there was a delay

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all good

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 5:10 AM

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carmine prawn `Player.Gravity`

that feels meh, nvm

carmine prawn Jun 17, 2025, 5:12 AM

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I tried patch some, but

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not sync

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:26 AM

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upper vapor <@618689346828238848> btw, the SSSS keybind doesn't work whatsoever, no log

this works

icy knoll Jun 17, 2025, 5:31 AM

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upper vapor this works

wtf 😭

slate flume Jun 17, 2025, 5:38 AM

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Is there a way I can uh make primitives not shiny

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It has this weird stippling effect from reflections that are gross and icky

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:39 AM

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slate flume Is there a way I can uh make primitives not shiny

i think you have z-fighting there
make sure two objects don't exactly overlap

slate flume Jun 17, 2025, 5:39 AM

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Oh

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Interesting

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You probably right

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:40 AM

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also you can't set the material's metallic or smoothness props

slate flume Jun 17, 2025, 5:40 AM

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That's lame

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Okay yeah you werer right

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That's much better

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:49 AM

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@hearty shard how did you get around this

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you never set DefinedSettings

restive turret Jun 17, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Create a new empty array

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 5:51 AM

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right

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oh

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i'm dumb

restive turret Jun 17, 2025, 5:51 AM

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Hi dumb

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 6:05 AM

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Need to find a way to detect a player being stuck in geometry while their scale is being increased

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thonkangry

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:05 AM

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boxcast

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@icy knoll

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i installed secretapi as a dependency

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😭😭😭😭

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it works now

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 6:09 AM

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upper vapor boxcast

player collisions are boxes?

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:09 AM

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there are multiple sphere colliders

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but a box would probably suffice

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if you wanna make sure, use the player model's hitboxidentities

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what do you need

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i don't think that's supported atm

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you can work around it by creating a symlink

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 6:14 AM

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hmmm

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guessing I have to use BoxcastAll?

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Or is there a layer I can use that only hits the map

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:14 AM

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i think simply boxcasting will work as it hits anything

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:14 AM

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grand flower Or is there a layer I can use that only hits the map

ideally you'd only ignore players and items

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 6:14 AM

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yeah

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but Boxcast will return the first hit

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which'll probably be the player

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:15 AM

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layermask

grand flower Jun 17, 2025, 6:15 AM

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are there constants I can use somewhere

upper vapor Jun 17, 2025, 6:16 AM

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HitscanHitregModuleBase.HitregMask maybe

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wait no