general-chat

[valid spoke]

How does the bolt hole spacing thing work here

[rapid geode]

ahh

[valid spoke]

They list 3 dimensions

[rapid geode]

well it should have 370 hole mounting.

i dont see it written

you can easily make an adapter plate

[valid spoke]

This is a great idea

[rapid geode]

so this one is 4800kv. so 1.2v for 6000rpm.

whihc will reduce power but it sound slike you dont need power anyway

just need a 2S (2 cell, 7.2v nominal) controller board

[valid spoke]

I don't need power it just needs some torque to move a cam that actuated a head block got a tape deck @rapid geode

It works for like

1 second at a tme

[rapid geode]

ahh

well there we have problem 2 maybe

hmm

maybe not if you say it runs 6krpm

[valid spoke]

Yeah but I am closer to my goal here nontheless

[rapid geode]

you tend to get poor low speed smoothing on these drivers/motors

because they are sensorless

[valid spoke]

I can an add an encoder

[late fulcrum]

Imagining a tape head thumping away at 6000 thumps per minute

[rapid geode]

but 6k shouldnt matter

[rapid geode]

hehe

[valid spoke]

Jts not the tape head hold on

[rapid geode]

i assume its some gear driven assembly

[valid spoke]

@rapid geode

I have tried to use 310 movies

*motors

But they can be too weak or too fastv

But the 310s do have a pattern that almost works

I just need to do some filing

[rapid geode]

proof the sun is made of magnetsa

so cool to see

(my friend took this pic in eastern canada)

[ebon dew]

Great day to listen to SoundGarden

interesting

dynobot hit me for a bad word or maybe it was just posting a youtube link? i have no idea.

[stuck moth]

bad word as part of the video id. want me to tweak it so you can post again?

[ebon dew]

nah that's ok

[burnt tendon]

It's all playing in our heads now, video or no.

[olive dome]

Not as great as others but

[ebon dew]

that is gorgeous

[orchid abyss]

looks like "the ring"

[rapid geode]

oooh pretty. that looks similar to here with a slight cloud cover

isnt it convenient the moon is the exact right size to block the sun and see the corona?

hehe

i like that your solar flare is clocked 30 degrees back from my friends. probably could work out the location from that (no idea how)

[slim shard]

Wads of trigonometry, and faith in well leveled cameras and accurate timings?

[olive dome]

haha glad you noticed that, that's caused by the camera mounting orientation actually

[rapid geode]

ah

[ebon dew]

Looks like the Halo

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-ring-halo-ship-gif-15782912

[ebon dew]

The size and distance...

[rapid geode]

its almost like its all a projection from a flat sky

:p

[valid spoke]

@rapid geode

I have been talking to some companies so I'm going to be buying 500 370s

And importing them

They will move the bolt pattern

And change the bolt size

[young vapor]

Hi I have a question, is it better to use the LTR390 sensor to measure uv+ambient light (exposure) or to use other sensors to measure uv + the other one to measure the ambient light

As far as I know, the LTR sensor allows you to measure these two "values "

[umbral phoenix]

since the corona has some large (but varying) diameter, I wonder what the range of distances would be where the sun could be fully eclipsed and still allow some view of corona

[rapid geode]

i know that the moon at its closest shows a solid ring of light in an eclipse, and yesterday was near the furthest

i think this was basically the "perfect" eclpse which is why people were more excited about it that other recent ones

[tardy badger]

Rip Peter Higgs

He helped pioneer modern physics and particle accelerator research into the unknowns of quantum.

[ebon dew]

The moon is on an ellipitical orbit. It has an apogee and perigee (the distance to Earth fluctuates). It would have to be just the right distance for that to happen. The same thing that happened yesterday, it was a perfect distance and was a real full solar eclipse. The real question for yesterday should be where was it in relative terms to its apogee/perigee. If the moon can get closer to Earth than yesterday then an even darker and longer eclipse is possible.

[tardy badger]

I have seen a total solar eclipse and an annular eclipse. Pretty neat.

Personally, I think lunar eclipses are cooler. The ominous red glow of the atmosphere on the moons surface. Superb

[blissful roost]

.....sorry

[ebon dew]

Don't be, that was funny.

[blissful roost]

It's ok, I'm English.. not Canadian. 😅

[tardy badger]

Don’t worry aboot it

[blissful roost]

It's all good, ehh.

[rapid geode]

i was wrong, its the reverse. closer moon blocks more sun

[tardy badger]

Yup

There will be an annular eclipse in Latin America in October

[rapid geode]

this one blocks most of the sun no?

ah yes. anular is when the moon is farhter

i keep mixing it up

hehe

cause i was wondering why this eclipse people seemed more interested in than others

cause it blocked more sun

[ebon dew]

yeah the moon actually reaches perigee (closest to Earth) tomorrow. That's why the eclipse was so full. Who knows if we'll ever see an eclipse this close to perigee again in our lifetimes.

[rapid geode]

2144

is the next on in my area

2031 in equador

[tardy badger]

2045 goes right through where I live now

[rapid geode]

yeah i guesws this one was more "special"

ooh

nice

[tardy badger]

2044 a polar eclipse

[ebon dew]

I'm going to make a guess and say yes, this is was a once in a lifetime experience then. We'll never see it that close to perigee in our lifetimes again.

[rapid geode]

aus is 2028 and 2030

last one here was 1925

i remember seeing one in the 90s, but it must have been annular

or partial

need to look it up

[tardy badger]

This was the annular eclipse in October for me

We got like 80 or 90% where I live

[ebon dew]

Ahh the 90's, so full of Halley's Comet, haven't heard about Halley in a while. Might see it again in 2061.

[rapid geode]

ha

i did a show on a comet

um

ison

the one that was gonna hit the sun

[ebon dew]

I don't remember that one. When you say was I supposed it did not? That doesn't give me confidence in our ability to correctly predict the trajectories of comets then. We need an orbital defense system. 😛

[rapid geode]

hehe

it didnt hit, but it basically vapourised as it came around

but they thought it might get pull in for an impact

its funny cause there was footage of the comet with earth which is an unusual angle

[ebon dew]

I think most things would vaporize before hitting the sun. It would have to be massive to survive long enough to touch the surface.

[rapid geode]

i dont remember where the probe was

NASA’s STEREO spacecraft

aha

ah. thats what i thought. its basically orbiting the sun roughly near earth

[dusty citrus]

Last time I saw an eclipse was like 2014. I looked directly at it for a couple of second involuntarily. It was painful.

[digital dagger]

This sounds silly, but how would you make a self advancing date stamp (Like those self inking rubber stamps that put the date on things.

And how small could it be made?

(or, which channel should I put it in.)

[patent hemlock]

parker space probe -- it's actually gonna "touch" the sun this year (it's also going faster than a 🦇 out of heck

[rapid geode]

didnt they crash something into the sun a few years ago?

[raw jasper]

hiya! I have acute open-plan office. Any noise-cancelling wireless (over-ear) headphone suggestions, preferably something that won't break the bank? Thanks!

[ebon dew]

they're crashing stuff into moons and planets all the time, some on purpose some not.

[burnt tendon]

I really wonder how long of an extended mission Parker is going to survive for.

[uncut trench]

This idea could well go in #help-with-projects

[patent hemlock]

well, this blocks out everything but what you're listening to Audio-Technica ATH-M40x, but it's not actually noise-cancelling

i do have a Jabra over-ear, but it ain't cheap

[digital dagger]

Thanks! realized a short while later that a fancy label maker that allows custom fonts would also do the trick!

[olive dome]

Here is/was my monitoring station

[azure kraken]

are there any adafruit modules that need soldering and they came unsoldered? i need something to rpactice

[tardy badger]

Most require soldering of header pins to use them with breadboards and other accessories

[azure kraken]

do u know any sensors/modules which are fun to use in a project and unsolderd?

cause i might be buying the hakko fx888d

[tardy badger]

I don’t think they sell many kits these days. They do occasionally sell solderable PCB art kits

[azure kraken]

i havent soldered in like 4 years

[azure kraken]

kk ill check some out

[uncut trench]

Just throwing in my 0.02 worth here, but if I were going to practice soldering, rather than using a potentially useful microcontroller / breakout, I'd start with a bunch of 0.1" header which you can get online for next to nothing, along with some through hole plated 0.1" breadboard, and just solder lengths of header to the breadboard.

[azure kraken]

ok

[uncut trench]

Not useful in the least, but it's a dirt cheap way of practicing to get the skill back.

That said, based on my own experience, if you have a steady hand and you've soldered before, it's like "riding a bike" - you should find it comes right back to you.

[urban arrow]

Howdy. As far as soldering, I'm good enough, but still hate it. Anyway, started many years ago with these cheapo Futurelec protoyping boards for Arduinos, and here's my latest I did for a Feather and EyeSpi connector, and 5V power. I know you can buy Ada doubles/triplers, of course I have several. But this board gives me a barrel plugin for Feather, and it's a "fun" challenging project for me to solder up, and if I mess it up, I'm out $1.50 😀 ha ha
It really takes concentration to route the wires correctly, but I can usually pull it off if I don't rush thru it...
https://www.futurlec.com/Protoboards.shtml

[whole jacinth]

perfboard with plated through holes is worth the extra cost, in my experience. i found soldering on the single-sided stuff very annoying

[urban arrow]

Agree, I've used both, and I just really don't have trouble with these.

[fathom flicker]

Is their any intrest in doing a project or hacknight meetup? I'm part of a makerspace (fatcat fablab) in NYC and could host it. Mostly just wanna chat with some irl about circuit python 😆

[late fulcrum]

This might help https://www.adafruit.com/product/73

[fair summit]

most of us aren't in NYC 🙂 . There is an #events channel if you advertise it at the makerspace and then want to spread the word.

[unkempt hearth]

The moon is also drifting away from Earth, so at some point there will be a "final" total eclipse. A couple million years from now presumably. Then annular from then on.

super old news at this point but our house was at 99.5% totality so we had to drive south a couple of minutes to see it... totally crazy sight

[ebon dew]

I suppose that's why people thousands or tens of thousands of years ago placed more importance on it because it was a much more significant event.

[rapid geode]

yeah this one was the most "total" we will see for some time

[night crescent]

ASK AN ENGINEER 4/10/2024 LIVE! https://youtu.be/s9wp4TvTmuc

[tardy badger]

What an interesting year of celebrity deaths, OJ died

[patent hemlock]

🧤

[glad ruin]

FREAKING FINALLY
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/04/starting-today-isps-must-display-labels-with-price-speeds-and-data-caps/

[rapid geode]

O_o they didnt have to tell you the cost before?

[glad ruin]

No

And an industry lobbyist group was fighting the introduction of this rule every step of the way.

[rapid geode]

how can you bu y a service without knowing what the price is

[patent hemlock]

if it's the only game you got (aka redlining)

[rapid geode]

up here we know exactly how much we are being ripped off up front

[glad ruin]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/08/fcc-says-too-bad-to-isps-complaining-that-listing-every-fee-is-too-hard/

[rapid geode]

if i go sign up for internet and it says $99/m... thats the price i pay (plus tax of course).

and you are saying in the usa this is not the case?

shudder

[glad ruin]

It isn't. You have to understand that most of these ISPs have regional monopolies.

[rapid geode]

we have 3 isps in the entire country that run everything

they charge $100 for 50 mbit

but they do still have to list the actual price

[patent hemlock]

they tack on all sorts of little "service fees" -- there are a couple of options in certain areas where it's almost like competition, but it's only in urban areas where there's a lot of density (read into that what you will 😈 )

[glad ruin]

The entire industry is kinda messed up.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/01/cable-firms-to-ftc-we-shouldnt-have-to-let-users-cancel-service-with-a-click/
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/02/cable-tv-companies-tell-fcc-early-termination-fees-are-good-actually/

[whole jacinth]

they have their sweet local monopolies and will milk all the $$$ out of it they legally can (which is a lot, given lobbying)

[tardy badger]

Sometimes you get lucky with a small local ISP who actually provides decent service

I pay $75/m for symmetrical gig service. Great uptime, support is local.

The network engineers are super cool too

[glad ruin]

Yep, I have symmetrical 300M for $40/month. I could get 1G, but it'd be another $20. I'd probably buy it if my apartment complex didn't force me to pay $25/month for "valet trash service".

[tardy badger]

Ew

[glad ruin]

They pick up garbage six days a week. I put garbage out maybe once a month.

[tardy badger]

My townhome community just sucked up electrical and gas service into the lease portal.. I’m not a fan

“It makes it easier” and what they mean is, they can charge an extra fee for including gas and electric

[patent hemlock]

my wife is a stupid good negotiator and we've basically got a flat rental rate for the next 1-1/2 years

[tardy badger]

I get that some tenants don’t end up changing over electric/gas service to their own name when they move in.

My rent isn’t going up for a second year in a row which is surprising

But they won’t lower it to be what they charge new tenants. 🙃

[patent hemlock]

fun thing about electrical service: there's a guy that used to live like about a mile away with the same name as my wife and SPL had it screwed up for about 4 months

[tardy badger]

💀

[glad ruin]

Electric is separate for me and I don't get gas. Water is charged through the rental company though.

Of course, PGE has been rapidly increasing their prices. Up 18% over the last year or something like that. I'm single, live in a single bedroom apartment, and am either at work or asleep most of the time. My electric bill a couple months ago was nearly $200. Now that my heater is off, it's about $80.

[dusty citrus]

Here if you got a tv or something that may serve as a tv, you need to pay a possession tax, which goes back to a ""national"" tv provider which is called RAI, which is collected when you need to pay for utilities bills, because people where obviously evading it

I Don't even see Tv, yet I need to pay some oligarch, because I may see their trashy services. Ridiculous

[dusty citrus]

Totally democratic

[blissful roost]

Very happy with that. ☺️

Next up.. I'll have to think about adding some lighting. 😎

[rapid geode]

is that some sort of lego?

[tardy badger]

Fresh PCBs from JLCPCB

[tardy badger]

Mostly assembled

Just don’t have the slide switch 😬

[dusty citrus]

hey guys, i'm new to this server. i want to ask about the wiring between raspberry pi and arduino. but i have the motor driver l293d that will take all of the pins of the arduino. how can i connect the raspberry with the arduino?

[thick wind]

What are you connecting to what, and how, exactly?

Which arduino? Which Pi?

[dusty citrus]

arduino uno, raspberry pi zero wireless

1. motor driver L293D is connected to arduino uno.
   there's no more digital pins available to connect the pi with arduino

[late fulcrum]

You can use the analog pins as additional digital pins

[thick wind]

What’s the connection for? Is it something you can use the usb serial for?

[dusty citrus]

i really don't know, there's an OLED display that works with I2C, is it okay if i worked with UART to connect arduino with pi ?

[tardy badger]

It works well 😎

Just one small change for the amp, more gain

[thick wind]

UART does work as well, if you have the pins available.

[dusty citrus]

yes i have available pins for it

it will be okay when i will use the display OLED on the pi?

[thick wind]

If it's an I2C display, it shouldn't use UART. I don't see a conflict, but that doesn't answer what your goal is here...

[dusty citrus]

it's just i read that if one of the components uses I2c then the pi should be connected with I"C to arduino. and i'm wondering what should i use, cause some components use I2C and some use UART

[jagged citrus]

Samsung is starting to put self promotions in my notifications 🌚

[late fulcrum]

If you're proposing to share a set of pins to do both asynchronous serial communication and I2C, that won't work. However, if you have an existing I2C port, you may be able to make one of the boards act as an additional I2C target in order to transfer information (Seesaw style)

[blissful roost]

It is indeed a Lego kit. ☺️

[rapid geode]

i googled it. its cool, but i dont see a spec of "lego" on it.

its pretty cool otherwise. seems huge

[late fulcrum]

There are a few main lines of Lego products these days. The original bricks, the Technics ones (which that is), as well as some special purpose ones like Bionicle

[blissful roost]

https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/2022-ford-gt-42154

[rapid geode]

yeah

looked it over

nice canadian car 😛

[late fulcrum]

My last Lego build was also Technic based. Now I'm working on controlling it with a Pi

[rapid geode]

ooh nice

[blissful roost]

That's ok.. the original GT40s were built in Slough, England.

[rapid geode]

ha.

the newest one is almost entirely canadian. developed, designed, made, almost every part. but it gets called american cause ford

:/

[late fulcrum]

A friend of mine has one, he took me for a ride in it, it was a blast

Canada is part of North America

[rapid geode]

shush

hehe

ive seen lots of the previous one. not many of the new one

[blissful roost]

I worked close to where the old Lola workshop was located.
The building has long since been demolished.

[rapid geode]

and of course originals and kits pop up

[late fulcrum]

I do brick builds as well

[blissful roost]

Ohh, I should have the Camaro arriving today. 😁

[rapid geode]

real one?

heheheh

[blissful roost]

Sadly not.

[late fulcrum]

Real, as in it has a physical existence

[rapid geode]

the lego camaro "feels" a lot more lego like

[late fulcrum]

Nice little fleet there. I have an Ecto and a Back to the Future DeLorean, they're fun builds

[rapid geode]

the names bond... stack bond

:x

[blissful roost]

I was tempted to get the DeLorean.

[late fulcrum]

And just let me say yay Sed and Awk. I'd suggest picking up Yacc and Lex, but they're not as much used these days

[rapid geode]

someone near me had a red delorean

[blissful roost]

Brooke Bond! 😅

[rapid geode]

bah. i screwed it up. "stack bond"

(bricks)

[late fulcrum]

Some of the parts choices are creative. The front grille of the newer Ecto is made of several dozen Lego skate pieces

[tardy badger]

It’s crazy to think that 12 years ago, downloading a 21GB game was not normal. It still isn’t super normal, it’s just flipped as to what side of not normal it’s on.

12 years ago, that was a huge game. Now that’s a pretty small game

[patent hemlock]

there's an actual mazeratti dealership < 1 mile from where i live -- that stuff is wild

[late fulcrum]

The Atari 2600 games normally fit in 4kB (but could be extended to 64kB with bankswitching). Even the mighty Atari 800 could fit big games onto an 88kB floppy.

[dusty citrus]

I really didn’t understand well. Can you clarify for me more please

[patent hemlock]

i don't have a size for it, but i played the heck out of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Strike_Eagle_(video_game)

[late fulcrum]

I was trying to clarify what you're actually trying to do. It seemed like you might be trying to do asynchronous serial communications using the same GPIO pins that were used for I2C.

[dusty citrus]

Oh no no, I was asking which communication is better, the I2C or the UART. Cause I have mixed components that some of them use I2C and others use UART

[late fulcrum]

"Better" depends on your parameters. Both are capable of similar speeds, but I2C has a defined protocol for data transfer. With asynchronous serial (AKA "UART"), you generally define your own protocol. You can do full duplex with asynchronous serial, but not with I2C.

[blissful roost]

I have a 24GB update in my queue.. lol

[tardy badger]

There’s probably a large Helldivers 2 update waiting for me

[blissful roost]

If you haven't played for a while, perhaps.

[tardy badger]

It’s been a few days

[blissful roost]

Shouldn't be too bad then.

Vermintide 2 update is 24GB

[dusty citrus]

It's too hot.
I'm thinking to make a space like suite, with an air conditioner backpack, powered by the nastiest type of fuel

[dusty citrus]

what do you think?

[spice moss]

any pipboy likers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O61dhnP7PtI

this could give you ideas for your projects

[ancient rivet]

🙂
https://learn.adafruit.com/raspberry-pi-pipboy-3000/overview
https://learn.adafruit.com/pip-boy-2040/overview

[solar kindle]

Turns out that a great way to get yourself to sweep the floor of your lab is to spill a dozen 3mm BBs. (I found 11 of them)

[glad ruin]

First of all, that looks like AI output. Second, it really depends on what you want to accomplish. Just keep in mind that the Uno R3 only has one UART, and that it is used by the bootloader and wired to the Atmega16u2 for USB communication.

[dusty citrus]

that's chatgpt saying and i have a free UART of course, the pins 0 and 1 are for TX and RX

[glad ruin]

Those are the pins I was referring to. They are connected to the 16u2.

[dusty citrus]

the 0 and 1 are free

[glad ruin]

Check the schematic.

They are not.

[dusty citrus]

i'm talking about those

[glad ruin]

https://www.arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/Arduino_Uno_Rev3-schematic.pdf

[glad ruin]

So am I.

[dusty citrus]

i didn't study to that extant to understand this. can you explain for me

[glad ruin]

Sort of difficult to show from my phone, but here are those pins in the schematic.

[dusty citrus]

they're connected to what?

[glad ruin]

The TX/RX pins on the Atmega16u2, via RN4A and RN4B

[dusty citrus]

but i'm not using any of those !

[glad ruin]

How are you programming it?

[dusty citrus]

sorry, what do you mean? i'm not using atmega16u2 or anything else. the pi is going to be connected to the arduino by those 2 pins. that's all i know

[glad ruin]

When you upload a sketch to the Uno over USB, it is actually received by the Atmega16u2 chip on the board. The 16u2 then resets the Atmega328P (the chip your code runs on) and transfers the program to it via that UART interface.

You can use those pins for other purposes, but you have to keep in mind that every time the board is reset that it will check for incoming data for programming.

Also, you can't connect an RP2040 to an Uno without level translation.

[dusty citrus]

this is just a prototype for a Uni project, not going to be defined perfectly. so what do you suggest to connect the arduino with the PI except the I2C ?

[thick wind]

USB serial?

[dusty citrus]

and how that will be?

[thick wind]

Raspberry pi has USB ports, just plug it into one of those

[dusty citrus]

just a usb canle from the pi to arduino?

[thick wind]

Works for most purposes.

Klipper 3d printers use it that way.

[dusty citrus]

aah ok thank you

[ember quest]

<@&327289013561982976> - https://www.adafruit.com/ - temporary downtime here? sorry if I'm the 132th person pinging you about it

Here is the request and response ("copy all as HAR", you can import it back to inspect it in Chrome/Firefox)

josuah@lap1:~$ curl -I https://www.adafruit.com/
HTTP/2 503
date: Sat, 13 Apr 2024 15:09:20 GMT
content-type: text/html
cache-control: no-cache
cf-cache-status: DYNAMIC
strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; preload
x-content-type-options: nosniff
server: cloudflare
cf-ray: 873c606afb18f8c9-CDG

josuah@lap1:~$

Probably maintenance 🤷‍♂️ 🙂

Ah, https://www.adafruit.com/favicon.ico works... maybe some cached content still living in CloudFlare's cache.

All back up and running!

[ebon dew]

Yes it was down with a 503 this morning for a short time. Learn and Blog were uninterrupted. The domain points at the store so it was mostly the store going down for a little.

I have a blog RSS feed and I usually get to the Adafruit site by reading one of the latest blog posts. I didn't notice the interruption because I wasn't shopping in the store or using the full domain name only. https://blog.adafruit.com/ was not affected. 😉

[glad ruin]

Finally! I think you are tge only other person I've encountered who uses RSS/Atom. It's an... underrated technology.

[ebon dew]

It's the most efficient way of consuming a lot of news. Some sites have 24/7 feeds with 20+ new blog posts a day. RSS lets me go through hundreds of potential blog post titles per day and read something that interests me. One of the reasons I love Adafruit so much is because almost every blog post is interesting, I read almost all of them.

[glad ruin]

Yes, and and it (mostly) eliminates The Algorithm™. When I read the news, I want to see the actual news, not a cherry-picked stream of "content" based on what Google or Microsoft thinks will generate the most engagement.

[tardy badger]

But the thing in that place you googled 4 months ago happened

[scarlet herald]

hi

I'm new user.

I have problem about neopixel on YD RP2040. is not working

[ebon dew]

What programming language are you using with it? If it's Arduino you can find help in #help-with-arduino If you're using Circuit Python then you can find help in #help-with-circuitpython or if you're using a Raspberry Pi or other Linux based small board computer you can find help in #help-with-linux-sbcs

[young vapor]

Hi, I'm looking for an idea to make a small glass for my uv sensor in the weather station. I'm looking for a material that allows as much uv rays as possible to pass through (280 - 430nm) What material will provide it? I've heard that quartz glass is good for this, but the prices are very high and they sell it mostly to labs

I wanted to do it with an acrylic but it falls off because it doesn't let the uv light spectrum through at all

[slender haven]

Aliexpress has many sizes and shapes of quartz glass for a couple dollars a piece.

[young vapor]

I think I've found a solution. The old EPROMs had a small quartz glass window, maybe I can open it and get it

[slender haven]

That's a good idea. Good luck.

[young vapor]

Thanks 👍

[night crescent]

Desk of Ladyada - 8051 Throwback Episode https://youtu.be/GDct_I-qTx0

Explore the CH552 QT Py board and CH55xduino support, we are testing its 8051 chip which supports native USB and multiple interfaces at low cost. The Great Search features a hunt for multi-voltage AC-DC power supplies to repair vintage electronics.

[tardy badger]

My life has been a little happier since I added Caramelldansen by Caramella Girls to my playlist

Swedish Technopop

[blissful roost]

Oh dear..

[tardy badger]

😁

It’s such a whimsical song

How could you not listen to it for hours on end?

[blissful roost]

It's not Queen or Genesis.

I'm thinking about getting a couple of ESP32 boards with LoRa, to test Meshtastic. 🙂

[languid oak]

I published a Gist of tests using a Raspberry Pi 5B-8GB with an Adafruit Gamepad QT and an Adafruit AHT20, using the Adafruit-Python-extended-Bus, Adafruit-Blinka and other modules. Also added logging info and data to two separate log files. See: https://gist.github.com/PaulskPt/ad9e39cdcb9aefc392f02be2fc83fd62

[waxen yoke]

This year on Embedded World 2024 we had our booth in the M2M area. It is clear that cellular IoT is really growing and the technology is maturing. It is also clear that the suppliers are focussing on large volume projects only. The reason is that certification of multi-radio modules is very expensive and you need a volume of at least 50k products a year to justify the expense.

At the same time I believe that there are lots of use cases where cellular is a perfect fit but the volume only reaches between a few hundred to a few thousands of devices a year. I'm thinking of remote weather stations, remote device monitoring, pump control, vessel monitoring, scientific settings, road management, ...

Therefore me and my team have created Walter. An open source, fully certified (CE, UKCA, FCC, IC, RCM), multi-radio (LTE-M, NB-IoT, GNSS, WiFi, BLE) module. The module can be programmed in ESP-IDF, Arduino, Micropython and Toit. Because the module contains all RF circuitry and has a modular approval anybody can now design cellular products. When you design a carrier board for Walter you only need to do basic EMC + spurious emissions testing on the final product. Even single person and SME companies can now create and launch cellular products.

To accelerate the launch of Walter and spread the word we have launched a campaign on Crowd Supply. We need your help to make multi-radio IoT products thrive by backing and sharing our campaign: https://www.crowdsupply.com/dptechnics/walter. I would love to hear what you will build with Walter!

[jagged citrus]

Got sum new toys

If i like the F103 enough ill jump straight into the H7

[blissful roost]

Might as well have a go.. 😅

[tranquil swallow]

So that's a Lora module + esp32 + display right?

[blissful roost]

Yarp. 👍🏻

I ordered two. ☺️

[tranquil swallow]

And you can power that all through the usb-c port

[blissful roost]

Seems so.

[slender haven]

It also has a battery plug and a lithium charge circuit on board.

You can increase the range substantially with a different antenna. The 915MHz ELRS / Crossfire antenna are relatively inexpensive, rugged and tuned to the right frequency.

[jagged citrus]

i got that same one but for 433MHz

should be arriving this week

[blissful roost]

I thought you could set the frequency, but.. ehh? Lol

[blissful roost]

Just don't use stubby antenna, right? 😅

[slender haven]

Which? The one that comes with it in the picture? It'll work, but be of limited range.. the little copper coil on the board is the wifi antenna.

[jagged citrus]

i think you can't do that

[blissful roost]

I'm sure I'll figure it out soon enough. ☺️
It might end up being my first shed project.

[blissful roost]

Well, I cancelled my first order for the 433~510 version.

[jagged citrus]

i was planning on getting a bigger antenna for it, something like this

[jagged citrus]

oh also, did you check the regulations in your country?

[blissful roost]

The 863~928 version seems more popular.

[blissful roost]

HA! No. 🤣

[jagged citrus]

ah

hmmmm

eh i dont think anything bad should happen

what could possibly go wrong

(i am not a professional and my advice should be taken with caution)

[blissful roost]

Lel

[jagged citrus]

https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/lorawan/frequencies-by-country/

check there 👆

in my case it was

huh i was sure it said 433 last time i checked

anyways with help of danh i found the documents for the regulations of these things and that also listed the available frequencies, in this case my country allows 433MHz and 915MHz

[blissful roost]

Makes sense.

[slender haven]

I can only speak to North America with assurance. 915 is definitely the right frequency here.

[tardy badger]

I’ve made it to CNX Software lol https://www.cnx-software.com/2024/04/16/icyblue-feather-v2-lattice-semi-ice5lp4k-fpga-adafruit-feather-form-factor/

Only issue because they used the Hackster.io article, I reduced the price from $74.95 to $61.95

[late fulcrum]

Ouch. It was probably slim margins to start with

[tardy badger]

$28 in parts when I can product a lot, trying to cover development of software, have enough overhead for replacements if bad boards. Right now, at the scale I can buy parts, maybe 40-45% margin not including labor

But if I can sell more, hopefully I can get the margins to a better level and I can actually order enough to get the steep discounts that tinyvision.ai gets

They sell similar hardware for $30, just not as a feather

But they had the $$$ to make the volume purchase necessary

[late fulcrum]

The Lattice Featherwing might be trickier in that respect

[stoic mesa]

They make it sound very official.
with the introduction of  V2, the company claims that all previous issues have been resolved

I can just imagine the PR department of your company putting out press releases like that

😉

[tardy badger]

I do make the claim that the bugs have been resolved 😉

[orchid abyss]

blue pill :D

i have one.. still need to figure out how to use it

[tardy badger]

Funny thing as I circle back to this, this morning. I had plans to issue an errata for IcyBlue because of the ambiguity of saying you fixed bugs without specifying which bugs lol..

[tardy badger]

Just some small bugs:

1. Missing 12k resistor to ground on the REF pin of the FT232H so you can actually use USB2.0 speeds and also properly use iceprog.

2. Stack up of the original had 2 layers which when operating above 12MHz in the pins could cause some weird sagging.

Changed to a 4 layer stack up

[late fulcrum]

I can understand wanting to stick with 2 layers but sometimes it just isn't going to work

Fortunately these days, the cost penalty for 4 layers isn't as large as it used to be

[tardy badger]

Yeah, 4L is just about the same cost as 2L

I’m moving a lot of my designs to 4L

Even 6L is becoming very affordable

[late fulcrum]

It does give some nice freedom

[tardy badger]

Yeah, not having to worry about a patchwork of ground connections is one big perk

[late fulcrum]

Do you have the specs handy for the clock crystal (or oscillator)?

I still may hot air off the existing one and upgrade to a higher precision one for one of my projects

[tardy badger]

So I don’t actually provide a global clock, though I’ve thought about adding one on the variant with the UP5K because it can go up to 100MHz

[late fulcrum]

Normally FPGAs have dedicated clock pins. But if one of those is routed to an I/O pad, then I'll just supply the clock that way.

[tardy badger]

Yeah, there are 3 global clock pins on the LP4K

I believe 2 of them are available on IcyBlue, all 3 are broken out on the feather wing

[late fulcrum]

It sure looks like there's an oscillator or crystal tucked underneath the LiPo connector

[tardy badger]

Ah, that’s for the ft232h usb bridge

[late fulcrum]

Ah, that makes sense. I'm also amused by the presence of a 0Ω resistor (normally you don't see a lot of those for routing purposes on 4L boards)

[tardy badger]

Some boards like the iCEStick use a TXCO and supply it to both the FT232H and the iCE40 fpga

[late fulcrum]

I also need to look up whether the SPI block can be used as a target

[tardy badger]

Once the FPGA is set up (cdone asserted), the SPI pins can be used as normal GPIO or for writing to the SPI Flash

[late fulcrum]

Ah. I'm hoping to use the FPGA as an SPI peripheral. But I may have to just build that out of generic logic (which isn't that hard, really)

[tardy badger]

There are two hardened spi IP blocks

[late fulcrum]

Right. I'm hoping I can use one of those as a peripheral (instead of host)

[tardy badger]

I don’t see why you couldn’t, there’s probably a good example out there for it

[late fulcrum]

I also need to learn how to use IP blocks like that in IceStorm

[tardy badger]

https://github.com/skerr92/ice5lp4k_examples/tree/main/spi

[late fulcrum]

I was thinking of using the heart and gift emoji then I found that one

[tardy badger]

I will probably update this example to have the SPI peripheral pins be on the edge (ones broken out)

But that’s super easy to change in the io.pcf file

[late fulcrum]

Yup, no worries there. It is going to be cool if I can use this to implement my Stroboconn project

[tardy badger]

😎

I’m also working on some softcores to run

I have a somewhat functional 16b pipelined CPU

https://github.com/skerr92/ice5lp4k_examples/tree/aes-encryption/pipeline_cpu

And I’m working on implementing an AES encryption example as well

[late fulcrum]

I was toying with the notion of implementing an MC14500B (realistically I could probably find some out there with a brief search)

[tardy badger]

People do some wild stuff on FPGA

[late fulcrum]

My other project is recreating the Atari Music Visualizer

[tardy badger]

Ohhh

[late fulcrum]

Also thinking about Floppotrons, LED matrices, etc

And the 3-chip computer project

[tardy badger]

I have the schematic for one of the Atari systems that was made in 74 series logic

Here’s the first page

TIA-1A

It’s the television adapter

Not the actual Atari itself

But still pretty cool

https://www.atariarchives.org/dev/tia/description.php

[whole jacinth]

you can do amazing stuff with 7400-series logic. just takes a whole lot of chips to do anything useful, though

[tardy badger]

Yeah, so true.

I work with a guy who worked for Evan’s and Sutherland back in the 80s and designed some of the first hardware shaders used for 3D graphics

Really cool guy

Before Evan’s and Sutherland got parted out to Cosm, Nvidia, et al.

[blissful roost]

Err, No! Evan's sell bicycles!!
😛

[tardy badger]

🤪

Anyway, this guy also went to Oregon state with the CEO of Nvidia. They were friends in the college days.

Pretty wild.

[burnt tendon]

The joke, for a while, was that all of the SGI'ers ended up at Google because they wanted their old desk back (the buildings in Mountain View that used to house SGI were leased to Google as SGI shrunk)

[patent hemlock]

i worked in a building many eons ago that had been part of the Datapoint (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datapoint) complex

[snow coyote]

how do i now (before) ordering that i have the correct bearing? (i want a bearing that spins rlly long but i got a few here on my desk but they stop spinning in like 3 seconds)

[tardy badger]

You’ll want what are called “frictionless bearings.” Obviously there’s still friction, but they’re supposed to be ultra low friction bearings

They’re usually used on things like skateboards and roller blades

[snow coyote]

Thanks!

imma search for them on ali

[burnt tendon]

Glad we could help you get your bearings.

[blissful roost]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bones-Super-Reds-Bearings-x8/dp/B002E2MYSI

[snow coyote]

This would work right

[snow coyote]

Screw Amazon here a lot of things are expensive

(Where I live)

[blissful roost]

lol

[snow coyote]

what is the difference between bearings that are yellow and red?

[blissful roost]

One is red, the other is yellow. 😛

Gawd knows.. maybe they just didn't want boring colours.. or it's some indicator of.. something(?)

[snow coyote]

maybe its the clearance ors

but they still rotate long

wich means

iam gonna buy the cheapest

[blissful roost]

I was actually being sarcastic with that link....

I didn't even read the messages before that. 😛

[snow coyote]

..

[blissful roost]

I wasn't taking wirehead's message literally.

[patent hemlock]

(deleted because that was a bit of a veer that only wirehead was gonna get)

[slender haven]

github must be slammed today.. trying to submit a PR to Circuitpython and the checks are still queued after 15 minutes..

[raw jasper]

Soo, bit of a weird question I figured people here could help me with: Does anyone remember the xneko/oneko program? The one with the cat avatar that followed around your mouse? (see attached)

I remember coming across some ASCII art of this exact cat sitting on top of a (CRT) computer monitor. Does anyone know where it was from, or even better happen to have it?

[tardy badger]

Sounds familiar but I’m unsure where I remember it from

[raw jasper]

Google only seems to return junk/spam results, or I just can't think of the correct query

[tardy badger]

I found this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VaV9giuY-UQ

[raw jasper]

To clarify, I am not looking for the xneko program itself; I am specifically looking for the ASCII art of this cat on top of a computer monitor

[tardy badger]

Oh I see

[raw jasper]

Though if you want a collection of its various implementations over the years, help yourself:

https://github.com/eliot-akira/neko/tree/main

[tardy badger]

Probably similar: https://github.com/GuidoFe/oneko-optional-cursor

They have bitmaps for the neko

[raw jasper]

I think the original source tree has them in xbm format too

[tardy badger]

I remember the days of cursor pets though, lots of fun

[raw jasper]

I think there was also a sheep....

[shadow siren]

       ^^         
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[livid sentinel]

Anyone see this linkedin post about adafruit request to make a lorawan network server.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jeremy-ellis-4237a9bb_adafruit-techeducation-stem-activity-7184956118496952320-eLyg?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

[tardy badger]

Welp, I’ve joined the society of dads who swore they wouldn’t buy a minivan

[burnt tendon]

I mean, minivans are a very well optimized design.

[late fulcrum]

Not in my opinion. They're basically built on a light truck chassis to dodge a variety of regulations allowing them to be built cheaply at the expense of safety.

[tardy badger]

I like my Subaru

I just couldn’t find a used one for the price I wanted 😒

[late fulcrum]

My car is 14 years old, and has developed a fault in the feedback circuits of the climate control actuators. I could replace the car, but I think I'll just build a climate control computer that doesn't care deeply about knowing exactly where the actuators are.

Or I'll just install a line of toggle switches and operate them myself

[tardy badger]

Hehe

I just needed a car to seat 6

My wife will mostly be driving it so it had to be something she wanted

[late fulcrum]

Hmm, blinked at the price of ₱570.60 then realized that's Philippine pesos, which is about US$10

[tardy badger]

It would be cool if there was a single global currency to make trade/overseas shopping more transparent

[late fulcrum]

In my opinion it would be even cooler if international shipping were reasonable (in speed, price, reliability, predictability, and ease of use)

[tardy badger]

Yeah, $26 for a small box of PCBs and a stencil just feels like a lot

[glad ruin]

In theory, it would be convenient. In practice, I wouldn't want a single global authority to have that kind of power.

[burnt tendon]

My vague idea from when Bitcoin hit the scene was that the whole mining thing was silly and you'd be better off converting a basket of different world currencies into a singular currency unit, but I can come up with a bunch of reasons why it doesn't work.

[tardy badger]

Could be governed by a board of elected representatives from each country, representative count determined by GDP.

[slender haven]

Sounds like the world economy would be dominated by China and the US... Good news, we're already there.

[blissful roost]

lol@false assertion

[glad ruin]

Yep, it'd be horribly broken as a result. And smaller/poorer countries would get absolutely screwed (even more than they are now).

[tardy badger]

Or just do 2 representatives per country regardless of GDP

Then small/poorer countries would have outsized control compared to their impact on global gdp

But I digress in order to stay away from political discussions.

[patent hemlock]

changing course, y'all might appreciate this: i was having some issues getting a servo connected to some lego gears to turn to the correct angle

there were two things here:

1. the servo in question has a pretty wide pulse-width and actually turns > 180 (easily settable, so just "data')
2. i was using the wrong gear in my gear ratio calculation, so my expectations were completely in error
   😆

[jagged citrus]

i bought new solder bits and they dont fit in my soldering iron

this dont werk

[thick wind]

Always double check your part compatibility, not all soldering irons are built the same way.

[tranquil swallow]

I bought a T12 iron which only takes T12 bits

[jagged citrus]

i only thought of that after buying the bits

lel

[ebon dew]

Anything that uses Hakko tips is the most widely used. Even if it's a different brand if it says it uses Hakko tips that's a plus. They're very easy to find and compatible with a lot of different soldering irons.

I never understood the hype around Hakko soldering irons until I bought one. They heat up and are ready to go in like 15 seconds. They stay the same temperature so there is no temp drop during soldering like other cheaper brands. I used a $20 soldering iron for a decade and was quite happy with it. Now that I've used a Hakko for a couple years I definitely prefer it.

Think I might have finally figured out why my irrigation pump is turning on and off. It took removing 8 wires and 12 screws to get to it which is why I put it off. I thought it was probably fine... it was not fine.

The relay contactors pads are almost gone and burned up. Then I figured out it's an 18 year old relay. Time for a replacement.

The high resistance contributed to frying the wires on the well pump. I've replaced the wiring and conduit but was still getting pump latching issues.

What I had to unwire and remove to get at the relay. I'm glad I found a problem with it because if it was fine I would have been even more confused what the issue would have been. It's a non-serviceable part. There's no way to clean the contacts and wouldn't even bother since they're almost gone and toast anyway.

[night crescent]

SHOW and TELL 4/17/2024 https://youtu.be/J7F0JHMFcaE

[night crescent]

ASK AN ENGINEER 4/17/2024 LIVE! https://youtu.be/q6VhxfeCcOM

[rapid geode]

stop breaking your house

😛

says the person that litterally shamshed their house yesterday 😛

[patent hemlock]

that does look like it's somewhat controlled

[ebon dew]

Is that solid concrete?

What in the heck is that? Ive never seen something like that before.

and those issues were not my fault. They came with the house… and plumbing issues.

[rapid geode]

hehehe

its concrete block but they are filles, so yes, solid. i cut it with a big concrete saw from both sides, but that remaing 0.24" REALLY held on. took many hits with sledge hammer to knock it out

the think in the space left behing is a toilet tank frame. for a wall hung toilet

[patent hemlock]

oh bleep - https://it.slashdot.org/story/24/04/17/1556242/a-spy-site-is-scraping-discord-and-selling-users-messages?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed

[rapid geode]

i happened to have a spare, but also it takes up liek 9" less floor space

[rapid geode]

I KNEW IT WAS REAL!

i kept being told no, discord doesnt do that

but i type is "new table saw" here and i get a firkin ad for on 10 mins later

so, who's the bot? hmmmm

[burnt tendon]

https://xkcd.com/905/

xkcd: Homeownership

New research shows over 60% of the financial collapse's toxic assets were created by power drills.

(One of my friends purchased her first house and I have been teasing her about this)

[rapid geode]

ha

given ive literally replaced every single stud and am about to replace the floor, joists and all... its pretty valid

thats why im turing the shed into a tiny hosue with that bathroom 😛 so i have a place to live for a few months

haha

something like this

its actually a really nice tiny house. nicer than the existing how is right now hahahah

foundation for the little bump out on the front "outdoor" kitchen

[burnt tendon]

When you are done, the main house will be a ... smashing success.

[rapid geode]

ha

well, a smarter... i mean richer person would knock the house down and make a new one

but how is that fun?

(actually ripping it down would cause many issues with code, it is too close to the fence and road)

[burnt tendon]

I mean there's that whole thing where the new house gets built using modern cheap disposable materials

[rapid geode]

id live to build the house like i did the shed, but it would cost way too much

the shed is all engineered steel

[burnt tendon]

I think it would be fun to build a house out of 2020 extrusion.

"fun"

I may have a weird idea of fun.

[rapid geode]

wiring be fun!

its wired except the lights and the new kitchen. so thats good.

the panel will connect to the main house with a 30A generator cord for now. $250 vs like $4000+ to do it underground 100A

also there are trees in the way

[rapid geode]

my friend makes oil field enclosures for equipment, which are basically steel sheet metal houses

[umbral phoenix]

House of Theseus

[rapid geode]

ha. pretty much. the foundation, and SOME of the outer wall will be left

[burnt tendon]

Well, when you get it back together, even you will be floored.

[rapid geode]

goran

😛

[umbral phoenix]

trying to come up with a construction pun, but I'm drawing a plank

[rapid geode]

i need mo money. was supposed to start stuff this month, but more things canceled, and everything pushed back to june/july

bah

[rapid geode]

your jokes make me wanna parge

[patent hemlock]

conduit, conduit, conduit --- that way you can replace your cat 12 with cat 20

[rapid geode]

ha

nah

[tardy badger]

The more cats to carry electrons the better

[smoky drift]

Hello people. Engineering student working on a final project. We are trying to create a switch for the baby einstein take along tunes toy. But we are finding it difficult trying to find where to solder the wires to the pcb in the toy. do we have to desolder the pcb from the plastic housing in order to solder it on the back or can we just surface solder from the front.

and if we can, where?

[thick wind]

The pcb shouldn’t be soldered into the plastic housing…? What do you want the switch to do, exactly? Is this a power switch?

Oh I see what you meant by soldered in.

That’s interesting.

[patent hemlock]

please do not cross-/multi-post -- if your question is not appropriate for a channel, you will be redirected

[smoky drift]

Ok. Sorry about that

[smoky drift]

I want our switch to change the song. We accidentally wired a switch to the power button on the toy. But we wanted to make it change songs. Basically do what the big colored button on the toy does when it is pushed

[thick wind]

Are you just adding a button to some other place on your toy? Follow the traces of the button contacts shown at ~6:30 in https://youtu.be/FT0PbVF_aeY?si=keHQhs3dwnfuYh9E&t=397 and I think I see two round pads you can solder your wires to. If that's not the right trace, you could also gently scrape the soldermask off the traces to expose some metal to solder your new button to.

The wording of "switch" however, makes me think you're not using a momentary contact like the PCB was designed for. Keep that in mind when you're connecting your switch.

[smoky drift]

We did that. And it works!! We are a little concerned bc we used a very small amount of solder on the little e shaped pads and the connections might not be as secure as we’d want. But we will go back over how to strengthen the connections next time we meet. Thank yall so much

[jagged citrus]

What does a board need to be considered "industrial", is it just adding the word industrial to the name of the board?

[fair summit]

I would think protection against power surges, better environmental protection somehow, maybe wider temperature range. If there are external connectors, industrial-type

as opposed to "pro", which has a lot less meaning'

[jagged citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/samuraichamploo-gif-20957870

I had ideas to make an industrial PLC-esque variant of my DX32

[fair summit]

i'd suggest reading the specs of "industrial" boards from real industrial suppliers

[rapid geode]

industrial usually have different bios types as well, allow custom splash screens, have lvds panel connectors, etc. its mostly about targeting the application.

also life cycles are 10+ years

[jagged citrus]

Life cycle was something i already thought of, you want a device like this to last for very long

And in the case it fails to be easy to repair or replace

In theory the DX32 should work for this since i made it with the intention of being as simple as possible

[rapid geode]

industrial buyers expect you to have replacement boards 10 years from now

[dusty citrus]

Mah I don't see that much of a difference from "professional" or consumer grade equipments.
They usually just cost a lot more, and have long lasting warranties... Which I haven't had a first hand experience yet

[rapid geode]

pro just means fancy high end features

industrial means what it says. it is for industry use

[jagged citrus]

I came up with the name: DX32I "industrial"* (i have no idea if this werks in an industrial use case)

[dusty citrus]

Fancy keywords to the same (mostly) product, with minimal differences to target """different""" markets

[patent hemlock]

warranty and such would also be required, methinks

[jagged citrus]

Slap a sticker on your boards that says PRO and charge more for it 🤑

[rapid geode]

sometimes it might seem like a worse board for 9x the cost. but it has some specific things industry needs. like 9 serial ports

[jagged citrus]

Looking at actual plc boards a lot of them feature large serial ports so thats going on my board as well

[rapid geode]

and support. if my atm flips out, you better be out in an hour to fix it

[dusty citrus]

In any case better getting the products sheets

[rapid geode]

right to repair also factors in. where apple will try to hide specs from you, industrial suppliers are often fully expected to supply schematics and bom

[rapid geode]

serial is still used a shocking amount

[jagged citrus]

Ik

[rapid geode]

but often it is done on an RJ45 connector

and not a db

my cnc spindle drive for example has rs485 and modbus abilities over an rj45 connector

[jagged citrus]

Whats the name of the big 9 pin connector

DB9 right?

[blissful roost]

Yarp.

[tardy badger]

Today I learned about Wigner Crystals

Something theorized and recently confirmed by scientists at Princeton University

Basically when electrons are exposed to an electromagnetic force stronger than their own repulsion force and energy level they space out as far as they can into a tight lattice

Creating essentially an electron crystal

Pretty neat

https://research.princeton.edu/news/quantum-crystal-frozen-electrons—-wigner-crystal—-visualized-first-time

[burnt tendon]

As opposed to Winger crystals which is what you get when you've got jewelry and a hair metal obsession.

[tardy badger]

California experiencing another milkshaker

(4.3 magnitude earthquake)

[patent hemlock]

i was going to continue this pun with old WW 1 german plane engines, but that's a banned word 🤣

[ebon dew]

That's a screenshot from the music video that I just photoshopped the word earthquake into. 😁

[dusty citrus]

Why do sick people need to go to work & force all the windows to be close.
Why do they also need to force me their ridiculous rules as no masks and no work at home so I can have a paycheck
Now I am sick. After like 5 years that I wasn't getting any flu like symptoms

[rapid geode]

id have thought your country would be all masks all the time at this point

[ebon dew]

Yeah I'll delete it, if I even have to question if it's inappropriate here its better to err on the side of caution.

[rapid geode]

milkshakes are inapropriate?

they are so yummy

[dusty citrus]

Quite the opposite, everyone is without one.
I started to stay without a mask for getting a job because people were looking at me like I came from the moon

[ebon dew]

I honestly thought you meant people who close all their windows on their PC before shutting it down bothered you. Couple hours later read it again in a completely different way.

[zenith jasper]

Hello. I am new on pi. My thesis is all about connecting arduino and rpi via nrf24l01. Arduino needs to send data to rpi5 and rpi5 must create a ui where it will show the data there. Before coming in here, i accomplished the data collection and transmission between 2 arduinos(uno and nano accordingly). Now because i am new with rpi, all the examples that i tried to use as a base before building on them are not working. I read that rpi.gpio library is not working. I discussed this with my teacher and he told me to check out circuitpython_nrf24l01. I tried using the simple example, modified it, wrote a simple code on the arduino to transmit just a hello world, but it still won't work. Is anyone familiar with using nrf24l01 on rpi with circuitpython? Also i am not familiar with python in general, so is there anyway i can write the same code as i do on my arduino(c++)? Btw i am not using ssh, i have it plugged in on a monitor and i write code on Thonny because i am not familiar with terminals.Idk where i should write so i wrote here and in #help-with-projects . Thank you in advance.

[tardy badger]

I love that even though now that most components and whatnot are generally very available, I still get emails from brokers who bought up huge supplies hoping to make a quick buck during the parts shortage

[jagged citrus]

Every time i want to send a message here i have to re-read it multiple times and check filenames and whatnot

Ive already been warned for some words that i didnt know were not allowed and im not risking it

I dont want to get the boot

[fair summit]

We check the rejected messages and sometimes adjust the banned words list. Don’t worry about being banned. It won’t happen automatically. If you’re having trouble pasting code upload it as a file

[jagged citrus]

Thanks

......

Is the D word still banned?

The one that starts with D and ends with AMN

Also, keep the T word banned

[fair summit]

in general, all vulgarities are banned

[jagged citrus]

Got it

[rapid geode]

sometimes the censorbot goes rogue and blocks weird stuff.

[fair summit]

it allows non-alphabetic characters: *badword* matches ba/dwor.d etc

that is mostly the source of all the annoyance

[rapid geode]

yeah

on the relative scale of problems in my life, it doesnt rank high 😛

[jagged citrus]

Hold on lemme try something

Works

[tardy badger]

Diving into the world of CrossLink-NX FPGA weeee

6L of PCB goodness for the 121 csfBGA part. 🙂

[rapid geode]

O_o

[tardy badger]

it's an FPGA board

[jagged citrus]

New board

[chrome oasis]

slugcat?

[jagged citrus]

yup

a friend asked me to add it

[chrome oasis]

the Rain World :)

[glad ruin]

PSA
In last terms update discord sneaked in forced arbitration clause, which is one of the things that no sane person should ever accept in any situation.
Everyone must opt-out ASAP:
**

Opt-out. You can decline this agreement to arbitrate by emailing an opt-out notice to [e-mail] within 30 days of April 15, 2024 or when you first register your Discord account, whichever is later; otherwise, you shall be bound to arbitrate disputes in accordance with the terms of these paragraphs. If you opt out of these arbitration provisions, Discord also will not be bound by them.

Here's template https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9p5uyp/comment/e7zbqzs/

Note: the reddit post is six years old, but the April 15, 2024 date still applies in the TOS.

[jagged citrus]

WHATHE- cant say that

[glad ruin]

Huh?

[jagged citrus]

nothing nothing

also the post is 6 years old, ill still opt out tho

[glad ruin]

Check the note at the bottom.

[jagged citrus]

ah

i didnt read it mb

[rapid geode]

forced arbitration is a big buzz lately. its largely illegal here luckily

[chrome oasis]

Uh Oh

Time to opt out

[rapid geode]

where do you opt out?

[jagged citrus]

done, sent it

[rapid geode]

i never opted in in the first place

[jagged citrus]

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/9p5uyp/comment/e7zbqzs/

read the comments

[chrome oasis]

You automatically opt in by being on discord it seems

[glad ruin]

Yeah, it's still legal in 🇺🇸 unfortunately.

[rapid geode]

yeah, so thats invalid

[rapid geode]

yes, so it seems

forced arbitration in general, but also "opting in" people on things like this is also illegal in canada

the telecoms used to try to opt peopel into lots of things

rossmann posted something on LG, and i went and got their canadian clause, and it was worded a bit different and had at the top "where applicable by law". so their lawyers are trying to wiggle around

what they seem to hope is (you) dont know the law yourself and just do what they say

[blissful roost]

Yay! 😁

[celest latch]

There s any one work with assembly programming in microcontrollers ?

M looking for semeone who is working with ASSEMBLY PROGRAMMING IN MICROCONTROLLERS EMBEDDED SYSTEMS ,

[umbral phoenix]

@celest latch you'll get better results with a specific question... with an open-ended request, folks aren't sure what they'd be' getting in to

[celest latch]

i want to Write an assembly program that simulates a single-digit counter (0-9) that:
increments on the rising edges of RB4 (by interrupt);
decrement on the rising edges of RB5 (by interrupt);
automatically initializes if its value reaches the maximum value of 9;
it can be initialized by the operator using an interrupt on RB0.

[umbral phoenix]

@celest latch can you tell more about: what board are you using? what programming environment?

[celest latch]

logiciel : MPLAB , PROTEUS

assembly coding

[celest latch]

any idea ?

[glad ruin]

That still doesn't provide the right information. MPLAB is just an IDE released by microchip, and it supports multiple architectures. For assembly, you need to specify the exact chip you are using.

And it would also help to know why you need it in assembly specifically.

[celest latch]

Guys i have mini project who is has 3 steps , write assembly program who work for segment countaing from 0 to 9 but using timers with interruptions : 1-increments on the rising edges of RB4 (by interrupt);
2-decrement on the rising edges of RB5 (by interrupt);
3-automatically initializes if its value reaches the maximum value of 9;
it can be initialized by the operator using an interrupt on RB0. This is my circuit on proteus so doing my efforts , any help ?

[jagged citrus]

Mine also just arrived

[celest latch]

@glad ruin

[glad ruin]

Sorry, I don't have an answer. I'm not familiar with PIC16 assembly.

[fair summit]

@celest latch why assembly?
is this a school project?

[celest latch]

no trust me university

we start with assembly

and we will go to C next week

[fair summit]

well, we don't want to do your homework fo you

[celest latch]

i dont want you to do my homework

i have the script its working on my circuit but i have some problems

so no one can help me

its not homework its mini project , i need to do manually after finish from proteus

[celest latch]

any help ?

i can send my script

[fair summit]

none of us know PIC assembly, sorry

[jagged citrus]

PIC is very unnapealing to me, specially because of the development software

[tranquil swallow]

Tried looking for something like that on aliexpress but I don't think I've found one, is there a specific name for that arrangement

I did get some Lora boards though

[blissful roost]

Which ones?
I've ordered the Lilygo T-Deck to go with my Heltec V3s. 🙂

[blissful roost]

Fair... Did you look up the frequencies and find out which one you need?

[blissful roost]

Mine is the Heltec V3, 868MHz (863-928 range).

There's another in the lower range; 433-510, but those don't seem to be as popular in the UK.

[thick wind]

Can't speak for the UK, but the FCC doesn't allow for unlicensed use of the 433MHz band in the US AFAIK.

[urban arrow]

General inquiry... I have a few wifi boards that are http servers delivering my formatted HTML to my PC. They all work fine, except for a Pico W - the issue is since the settings.toml had the standard CIRCUITPY_ settings, when I go to the specific IP address in the browser, it gives me WebWorkflow for the PicoW, NOT my html webpage. I've tried not using the CIRCUITPY in toml file, but then I get "unable to load" the page.
My other boards, such as Metro ESP32S2, come up with my html.
Not a huge deal... I've been experimenting for a while and not making progress. Don't really "need" to do this with the Pico W... it's pretty limited on memory anyway 🙂

[thick wind]

Are you perhaps using the same port for your server and your web workflow? Try changing the port number in your code or your settings.toml file. To access your different pages, 192.168.XXX.XXX:[port#]

[jagged citrus]

Theres a meshtastic node a couple blocks away from my house but sadly there are multiple buildings between them and me

[jagged citrus]

This is kind of a paradox, its more likely to find meshtastic users in a city because of its large population, but because its a city there are more buildings that block and interfere with the signals

Maybe i beed a bigger antenna

Yeah something like this

[urban arrow]

Thanks. I just found some of my confusion - still new at the httpserver stuff.
In the line of code server.start(str(wifi.radio.ipv4_address))
it prints a message to REPL that I'm not specifically doing myself in the code... and it says: Started development server on http://192.168.0.xxx:5000
I admit I didn't pay much attention to this before. Anyway, if I enter that complete IP, with the 5000, I get my html. If I change to port :80 like in my settings.toml I get web workflow! Amazing. You can flip back and forth.
Don't know where the 5000 comes from, but this is working for me Thanks!

[thick wind]

Glad to hear you figured it out! Port 80 is generally the default port used by browsers when you enter an ip without a port, so whichever page you prefer to be “front-facing” will generally be the one using port 80. You can define the port in your server.start() arguments; by default the port it uses is 5000.

[drifting sapphire]

High everyone. I’m trying to determine if I blew up my adafruit m4 metro airlift lite board. When plugged into usb to computer the bootloader mode seems to work but once in normal mode the RX and TX lights just stay solid and it won’t accepted code. I have tried flashing the bootloader and that seems to work. We started experiencing issues after we might have tapped 6 v into the SDA and SCL pin I’m not sure if it actually hit or not.

If I can flash the boot loader is the board likely fine?

[tardy badger]

Hard to say. Does it show up as a com port when you plug usb in?

[drifting sapphire]

Yes while in bootloader mode

I do also wonder if we accidentally killed the metro if it would be possible to kind of zombie it using another metro (non airlift) and just wiring to WiFi module pins

We unfortunately do not have time to wait for a new airlift to come in from shipping

[tardy badger]

Yeah, it’s possible you killed it. The m4 on there is only tolerant to like 3.6V

[drifting sapphire]

Dang. What about trying to access its airlift module from another metro?

[ebon dew]

Have you tried some simpletest examples to see if some of the physical pins work other than sda and scl?

[drifting sapphire]

I did try to load just the blink example but it failed to upload.

Do the RX and TX lights monitor USB traffic in addition to other traffic? If they are both solid that would mean it wouldn’t respond to an upload I guess? I don’t know it’s weird because the bootloader mode works perfect at first

[tardy badger]

I’m not sure, you could see how they’re hooked up in the schematic on the primary learn guide

[fair summit]

Sounds like you may have broken GPIO I general. For instance, blink might have loaded but the LED in is fried. Khoi could try loading CircuitPython on it and see if that comes up with a CIRCUITPY drive. But if GPIO is fried you won’t be able to talk to the coprocessor

[drifting sapphire]

The LED does turn on it’s just always on lol

[tranquil swallow]

Honestly I had no idea what I was looking for, the ones I got are 433mhz.

[blissful roost]

You might find 433 stuff, I don't know.. depends on your area.

It's worth trying both.. they are cheap.

[median viper]

hey hows it going nowadays? Rainy day here today

[rapid geode]

we got snow momentarily

[jagged citrus]

Uhhhh its still hot here in chile

We had rain some days ago

Idk climate change is wild

[median viper]

The Sahara used to be a grassland full of animals. I don't want to go too deep into scientific theory, but it's been said empirically that humans adapt to these events (the survivors) and Improve.

I still need to fix my car A/C and I don't have the tools

[jagged citrus]

Mann im starting to believe the avocado industry has developed technology to extract humidity from the atmosphere now to irrigate the plantations

[median viper]

They do that in tibet also

[jagged citrus]

Youre lucky, i dont even have an ac

[jagged citrus]

Theyve drained a whole lake for avocados

[tranquil swallow]

Isn't that the gist of cloud seeding, I know they do some humidity extraction in the wealthy gulf states

[median viper]

Greed of selling avocados is what drives them to decimate the environment, the fruit costs more than a dollar a piece retail it's a very high priced item

Same thing with lithium, and gold before that

Coal also

[jagged citrus]

Huh, so my wacky conspiracy may have some truth to it

[tranquil swallow]

They're already looking at annihilating the ocean floor to extract more rare earth metals

[median viper]

Yea well your country is mineral rich

[jagged citrus]

Chile again, same thing happened with saltpeter, same will happen with copper, and then lithium

[median viper]

Chile is mineral rich

[jagged citrus]

Super mineral rich even

[median viper]

Yeah exactly they will be plundered

All these iPhones, and Tesla's and all these yuppy toys come from remote country components often times with bad labor practice

[jagged citrus]

Dirty copper is how i like to call it

Dw made a documentary about this

[median viper]

Yeah I am all for documentaries

[jagged citrus]

Its only in spanish i think

[median viper]

Have you heard about Toyota 1:6:90 rule?

[jagged citrus]

No i havent

Whats it about

[median viper]

Let me get it right first and double check literature

1 fully electric car can make 6 plugin hybrids or 90 hybrids non plugin

Fully electric cars use so much materials that are scarce that it's more impact to phase out ICE with 90 hybrid engines such as their "Hybrid Synergy Drive" rather than full electrical which is wasting materials

So 1 Tesla used the rare materials of 90 hybrids

[jagged citrus]

The only word i can use for this is not allowed in here... but its crazy how inneficient fully electric cars are in their current state

[median viper]

My 1.8 L gets 38 mpg on the highway but a hybrid gets like 56 I think?

Atkinson cycle engine it's really smart

The entire hybrid synergy drive was invented in early 1980's by California engineers

[rapid geode]

unfortunately they adapt when most of the population dies off. we survive "barely". with our expectations of climate in the near future, it is mostly going to be about feeding everyone as our normal food sources get disrupted.

anyhow

"good luck with that kids"

runs

[rapid geode]

if i was in charge of the world (ha) id would make all cars electric, with modular fuel supplies. a gas generator could be one supply and as batteries, hydrogen, and everything evolve you can just swap them

the actual electric portion of the cars is very good and has been for a long time

[jagged citrus]

If i was in charge of the world..... i would make a giant mech and start stomping on the houses of people i dont like

https://tenor.com/view/obaripose-impulsegundam-sword-impulse-gundam-swordimpulse-sunrisepose-gif-2752296112271670110

But i would also put nuclear power plants everywhere

Start promoting the use of public transport instead of cars

Make cities greener and more walkable

Giant cool mechs

https://tenor.com/view/anime-robotech-ready-gif-12784137

[jagged citrus]

Vote me 4 president and if i get elected u get a free mech

[tardy badger]

The moon is looking nice as always

If you zoom in it looks like a cheeky face on it

Here it is circled if you didn’t initially see it

[jagged citrus]

Hmmm

Kinda looks like a face

Ive always thought that it looked like a rabbit

[rapid geode]

its just a block of cheese on a string

[patent hemlock]

https://www.techspot.com/news/102684-zilog-discontinuing-z80-microprocessor-after-almost-50-years.html

[whole jacinth]

8051 architecture still going strong, though slightly younger

[glad ruin]

It's also a microcontroller architecture, rather than a mivroprocessor like the z80 (itself originating from the Intel 8080, with a number of enhancements).

[slender iris]

Hello night owls

[valid spoke]

I am looking to buy a good quality AC millivolt meter for audio purposes

All the recommendations are for old audio equipment

Like the HP 400 series

Anyone got any ideas of where I can find something digital

[thick wind]

Depends on how you define "quality." When it comes to high precision sensing, the analog equipment is technically superior due to its lack of switching noise. Anything digital has to design around the fact that clocks and other fast switching signals can potentially induce noise and ripple at a millivolt level, which could be mistaken for a millivolt AC signal.

I know digital equipment for this does exist, but I don't have the experience to tell them apart from the cheaper noise-inducing ones.

[valid spoke]

Well my issue is

Sure the analogue ones do have less noise

But they will need me to

Go through the entire unit

Replace every capacitor

Sometimes even ICs

And recalibrate each unit

I have these guys here that I'm doing that to

I was looking at the HP ACMVs

Same era as those

They are from the late 60s early 70s

I love old gear but I wanted to see if it was possible to get something slightly newer

[thick wind]

Then the next question is how precise and accurate do you need your measurements to be? And what budget are you working with?

Do you need any additional functionality like PC-connected logging or automated measurements?

[valid spoke]

nope

this is to calibrate old audio equipment

im okay with older gear just not 60s old since

they have so many unobtanium ICs

[valid spoke]

at least 1% in the 40hz to 20khz range

within 2% would be more reasonable either works

[median viper]

This is really interesting

[jagged citrus]

Imma do a psa for all adafolk
There is a site known as spy.pet that has been scraping massive amounts of messages from discord servers
This tool helps find spy.pet bots: https://kickthespy.pet/

Ive already checked if this server had any bots and fortunately there are none

[valid spoke]

@thick wind i found ones that work and are like

20 years newer

just waiting for them to be posted for sale

Kikusui AVM23R
or
Kikusui AVM25R

KENWOOD vt-187 or 186 or 185

and
GW Instek GVT-427B

i ended up getting a Kikusui Model AVM15

which was made in 2001

got a really good deal

[round minnow]

Hey everyone! I'm new to the community, and I've been exploring CircuitPython's design guidelines. While reading the "Design for compatibility with CPython" section (https://docs.circuitpython.org/en/latest/docs/design_guide.html), I came across a recommendation stating that shared functionality should use the same API as CPython. Intrigued by this, I decided to develop an application that compares the APIs of two different Python modules.
The app offers various options for checking differences in implementation, identifying missing implementations, and spotting extensions. I'd love to engage with the community to discuss its potential use and gather feedback on any aspects I might have overlooked. Could someone guide me to the most appropriate channel for this discussion? Thank you!

[blissful roost]

Shut up and get out! 👉🏻

😢

[night crescent]

Desk of Ladyada - Two Terrific Trinkeys + Z80 Processors https://youtu.be/fglUueXSCxU

Two Trinkey prototypes: the TRRS Trinkey for easy AT projects and the Pixel Trinkey driving up to 10,000 pixels. Also, Zilog’s Z80 processors hit End-of-Life, but are still available for a final purchase.

[jagged citrus]

I have to wonder, how massive is miss ada's desk

[rapid geode]

its like the tardis

[patent hemlock]

dinna shoot the messenger!

[patent hemlock]

maybe more like a black-hole -- gobs and gobs of stuff goes in and you never know what ends up getting spit out via the poles

[ebon dew]

That sounds like something the developers might be interested in. Sounds like it could be used to highlight current differences that might want to be improved or implementations that need to be tweaked. Sounds like an interesting project. Recommend you post that in #circuitpython-dev

[solar halo]

why can i not swear?

[hard estuary]

Profanity isn't allowed. See #code-of-conduct

[solar halo]

oh

[orchid abyss]

https://www.espressif.com/en/news/Espressif_Acquires_M5Stack

repost from #circuitpython-dev

[jagged citrus]

You cant

[dense mirage]

I'm interested in learning the "right" way to write cpp for arduino, ie .cpp/.h

if anybody has good resources to learn how to do this, please post them :)

[whole jacinth]

a lot depends on the definition of “right way”! also, you’re more likely to get help in #help-with-arduino

[dense mirage]

👍

[median viper]

Hey if anyone is there, does anyone know how I can do GPIO or other BUS protocols from my new Windows 11 Intel NVIDIA desktop, I see Lady Ada working with a windows machine a few years ago, but I don't know how to hook up electronics up to it for prototyping

[umbral phoenix]

@median viper FT232H or MCP2221A would be one way: https://www.adafruit.com/search?q=General+Purpose+USB+to+GPIO

or use a connected microcontroller (USB, BLE, or wifi in some cases), where the software and hardware prototyping happens on the microcontroller (but is accessible from the PC)

[ebon dew]

Oak tree root got into an irrigation pipe then grew around it and constricted it. This caused the well pump to eventually overheat since the water couldn't go anywhere. The water starts to boil inside the pump, melting internal wiring. The water inside the entire pipe starts to boils which deforms the schedule 40 pvc. Temperature of the water was probably about 180F-250F when this happens. This is just one section of the pipe, the total pipe is about 50 feet long. :/ I'm going to be digging for the next couple of days. If irrigation is on city water it's not a problem the sprinkler heads just wont pop up. For a well pump setup it'll burn up the pump and boil all your pipes. :/ This is why burying irrigation pipes deeply is a bad idea if you have a well pump.

[rapid geode]

digging is fun!

[ebon dew]

playing in the dirt is fun. add electricity and water and digging can get spicy. 🙂

[rapid geode]

ha

thats not dirt. its rock

[ebon dew]

yeah a pickaxe doesn't sound that fun. do what you gotta do. jackhammers come in handy too.

[rapid geode]

pic is easier than the jackhammer on this stuff

anyhow. its basically ready now

i need 4 deck blocks, and a 4x4 pressure treated post

[ebon dew]

do you plan on adding a concrete patio?

ah wood patio

[rapid geode]

wood room.

well, steel walls. wood floor, wood roof

[ebon dew]

i mean outside the door

[ebon dew]

oh you haven't started with the beaming yet?

why not a concrete foundation?

[rapid geode]

couple reasons. the concrete on the main shed was a ton of work, and cost a lot.

[ebon dew]

this is true

[rapid geode]

i have lots of spare wood and the neighbour is giving me scraps from their new deck

i have steel for the walls. but none for the floor

the shed is all steel including the floor

roof i could do steel, but its easier to insulate with wood 2x4s

[ebon dew]

what's the horizontal wood piece for?

[rapid geode]

?

[ebon dew]

will that be a windows or just plywood to mount things to?

[rapid geode]

ooh

fold down bar. but i dont think im doing that now

[ebon dew]

a flip top table? that's flipping amazing.

i like it, neat idea.

will come in handy as a table to set things on as you're building the rest. that's a really cool idea.

[rapid geode]

there are 2 rules, and one need. the need is that this be warm and sealed for winter use (this is the kitchen). the rules are it is legally a "porch" and as such cant be heated or fully sealed up/insulated

so i need creative ideas. that flip table is one. it is an "open" porch and that table just happens to cover the hole

[ebon dew]

if it's for a winter condition then yeah i'd try to keep it sealed. that flip table would be a pain to keep sealed in winter even with some type of large gasket.

[rapid geode]

yeah the window is smaller now, with the bar permanent. the opening will be a screen, and i will make a dpuble pane glass greenhouse box to sit on the bar and "seal" it up. and i get a little spot to grow herbs in winter

bar is 20" deep. greenhouse can be 10-12"

needs to be light enough to lift and move

[ebon dew]

make sure it's not longer than the roof drip line 😉

[rapid geode]

ha

roof overhang is....... 26"

from left. door, fridge, sink, laundry, stove, dishwasher. and the circle is a propane tank for the stove and water heater. (im restricted to 30A power)

i have 1 issue. the fridge door will hit the entry foor handle.

doh

hehe

[ebon dew]

i spotted that immediately

and was thinking it might be good to swap the fridge and heater

[rapid geode]

thats the only spot the fridge fits

[ebon dew]

but it's doable

just can't open the door and fridge at the same time and who really needs to do that often anyway.

[rapid geode]

no. i mean if you open the fridge, it will hit the door handle

cause that sticks out 2.5"

i was looking for low profile and flush handles

or sliding doors

etc

(door cant open out for snow reasons)

[ebon dew]

how are you going to prevent frozen water lines to the house? is that a concern?

[rapid geode]

water line is laid on the rock, so yeah, they would freeze so i need a water line heater

and insulation wrapping

[ebon dew]

are you thinking of solar to augment some of your power needs?

[rapid geode]

waterline heaters are really cheap now

big tree coveres the shed, so not worth while

[ebon dew]

though i have no idea what the sun is like in your area. i have no shortage of it where i'm at and i also never have to worry about freezing conditions.

[rapid geode]

yeah solar is not viable in this case. (it is on my main house)

[ebon dew]

well i gotta get to digging the sun is getting low and i have hours of digging ahead. thanks for showing your plans and progress. looking forward to hearing more in the future.

[rapid geode]

ha

have fun

[blissful roost]

How deep are these "rabbit holes" that people talk about... ?

[rapid geode]

|---------------| that deep

what is that"

?

[blissful roost]

It should be an antenna.. 😅

[rapid geode]

ah

[blissful roost]

For this. ☺️

[rapid geode]

O_o

now im even more lost

ha

[blissful roost]

A bit of Meshtastic LoRa action. ☺️

[jagged citrus]

Aw yeah thats what i need for my heltec v3

[blissful roost]

That's what I got it for. 😄

If it's any good, I'll order another.

I need one of them thar analyser gizmos to test the antennas though.

[blissful roost]

Oh wow... That's made a massive difference!

[rapid geode]

loses patience while mother take literal 25 minutes to type in her email on a form

[tranquil swallow]

That's so cool, I'm getting the heltec v3 for 863-870mhz based on ur experience, would that make sense for a node

[blissful roost]

Yeah. 😄

I'm going to get a 433MHz anyway, just see how that goes.

[digital sphinx]

These folks just released a developer marketplace - really cool https://x.com/kodjima33/status/1782492783762399700?s=46
I wish Adafruit had smth simillar

Nik Shevchenko (@kodjima33) on X

FRIEND became the largest opensource AI wearable community in the world

To support the builders, we are launching an App Marketplace

You can now build your own app and it will work with the device

Submit the app, get promoted in our socials, and join a waitlist to get FRIEND

Twitter · Apr 22, 2024, 7:32 PM

[bright veldt]

are there non toxic spray paints?

[spice moss]

the meme if you want https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5923686

[tardy badger]

I hate that you have to work so much just to get by day to day in this world. I have so many ideas come to me while im working but I can’t do anything about them till the end of the day 😩

[patent hemlock]

having just retired, i can tell you that jotting that stuff down in journals or notebooks means all that good stuff will be right there for you when you do have time (I wish i had!)

[tardy badger]

It’s cataloged, I just need to get off work at 4:30 and do it 😏

But thats.. checks clock 7.5 hrs away

[patent hemlock]

it took me 30 years to learn patience, which made the last 10 years ok 😀

[tardy badger]

I have patience, probably too much.. because it often turns into procrastination

[patent hemlock]

well, that too...

[jagged citrus]

I need a bigger antenna

[blissful roost]

You don't always need bigger, when better will do the job. 😅

I'm planning to stick it up there. 😁

[patent hemlock]

hope you have lightning protection -- that's a "Hit me!" sign if i've ever seen one 😱

[tardy badger]

You know people rejecting modern philosophy might use enlightening rods to protect their homes

[pseudo halo]

does anyone know of a good online source for getting a custom transparent acrylic project enclosure built? I'm working on a midi controller and I don't really have time to learn a CAD program to design my own.

[tardy badger]

You could probably use fiverr or some other free lance app to hire someone to design it. You can then use companies like TAP who might allow you to upload custom shapes to me cut

[fair summit]

There is also this kind of aluminum rail stuff: https://www.adafruit.com/category/228. Then you can add plastic panels

it comes in larger than 20x20 also

[pseudo halo]

Good to know about the rails, I was kind of imagining just a completely clear box though