mess-hall

[wind shore]

@molten basin

Hello

[harsh tinsel]

Wait nooo, If you dc and reconnect, do you lose all your engi node points?

My nodes are worthless for xp now so I can't level my support in what's about to be a super long match.. bleh, hate the engi leveling switch being the only xp method

[arctic rampart]

Or just like... play the game?

[bitter cipher]

What is DDOS?

[empty steppe]

Sending lots of spam traffic to a server until it crashes

Quite a effective way to crash stuff I may add 😉

[bitter cipher]

That makes sense

[harsh tinsel]

Commanded for the first time

Really enjoyed it actually. The first time sucked but the second match people followed my orders and commed well

We managed to sequential half the map off one take since we had squads on the further points waiting with predropped supplies for garries

[foggy lance]

Creepy penis

[storm stratus]

Wow. Its not the only method. Its just the most affective way. You need to perform better if you think that

[analog apex]

Actually - if one medic revival gives 75 XP/score, a Support's supply box being spent on a garrison (or whatever else) should be giving at least a double of that amount as unlike revives, it can be deployed only every 5 minutes (every 2,5 if in manpower node's range)... but even if spammed it needs be be used too by someone to get max XPs from it.

It's not just about performing better - the math just doesn't allow the Support to get as much XPs as Medic, CMD, AT or good SL, not even if the Support class player is doing his best at the class's stuff.

Placing down a supply box gives us 25 XPs(/support score). If I remember correctly, when somebody uses our box, we get XPs worth of the supply box content (50XPs for 50 used supplies) - this number should be doubled (so we would get 100XP if somebody would have used 50 of our supplies).

The same in case of using the ammo boxes - reward for other players using our ammo box should be higher than 10XPs... would set it to maybe 30-40 per usage. (not that ammo boxes matter in any way, but hopefully one day they will)

This kind of stuff has been in big contrast with both the old (and even more with the new) Medic's XPs - there is no apparent logical balance of the XP gains for certain classes. I would say very roughly... Officer, Engineer, AT and **MG **are pretty much on the same level of XP gain potential. **CMD **and **Medic **are visibly higher, **Support **visibly lower even if it does its job (unless we want Support to hunt for enemy spawnpoints to be able to earn for itself). While... all the classes use the same XP thresholds for reaching the class LVLs - which makes it a problem even there if the XP gains are unbalanced.

[foggy lance]

Hi

[analog apex]

Hello 🙂

[analog apex]

And for XPs for **dismantling **the stuff - it would be much better if **instead **of one-time XP reward in the moment of the dismantling thing disappearance, we would be getting xy of XP per each 5 seconds of dismantling (the amount would be different for each kind of dismantled thing ofc.).

And the same goes for building/hammering the stuff - instead of getting one-time XP reward at the moment of the built-structure's appearance, we should better be getting xy of XPs per every 5 seconds of hammering (or per every piece of "loading" UI of the hammering UI).

[silk igloo]

Support can ping the map after recon planes though, that should work

[analog apex]

yep but still not enough to get on par with the other classes by far

And then we get to the no XPs for hits of enemy vehicles - instead of just 1-time XP reward given in the moment of the enemy vehicle's destruction, every hit that causes damage should be instantly rewarded to the player who caused it. Among the AT capable infantry (and tanks) there is usually a competition instead of cooperation because everybody knows, that only the final blow matters, otherwise no points, no recognition - despite the player who finishes the vehicle off, may have made much less effort that somebody who hit the vehicle x times before but got nothing for it in terms of XP. AT mines "hits" included.

Also, even a bounce of a rocket or a shell should give some (although low) amount of points - it helps the team as it distracts the tank/vehicle or makes them panic or pull back.

Actually I will probably make this a thread in #1098158460463480842 eventually.

[silk igloo]

Imo the points should be divided only after a vehicle has been destroyed, and only a cap per vehicle. Rather than doling out infinite points for shooting an enemy truck next to a base repair station

[analog apex]

I disagree because even if an AT doesn't kill the vehicle - if he damages it and makes it to fall back (and repair), he efectively made sure such enemy tank/vehicle got temporarily off the team's back.

Hence should be recognized imo, bounces included.

Destroying an enemy vehicle in many cases does the crew the same amount of problems/lost time as needing to pull back and repair it.

[silk igloo]

Well, pay it out after the match has ended. Might get a bit too convoluted to calculate though, if a vehicle stayed alive and lots of players dealt damage to it and left the match before it exploded. Idk, maybe it would cost too much for the server.

[analog apex]

if cost of networking would be too high, yes I would agree. If not, realTime would be ofc better.

gtg now

[green stag]

Thanks for the quick fixes Devs. So glad you fixed the dodgy buildings in Kharkov too

[fluid pawn]

No worries at all We know how annoying those buildings were 😅

[storm stratus]

mm, but i was responding to the remark Engineers nodes are the only way to get good exp. which is a very incorrect remark. with the update17. EXP even easier to get then ever. Support was my first level 10 FYI. Its not as bad as you may think played correctly. Choose the ammo and explosive ammo kit and drop as often as possible in key locations. Engineer nodes EXP is just cheese. its the easiest passive exp. 30exp per minute. engineer in general can score the highest for supporting score of all classes. it can be unmatched. if done right. that means its the most effective. but not the only method to getting good EXP. thus i don't like the statement. and you don't have to agree with me.

[warped grove]

Is there a change log of what exactly was done to the flares and server side issues?

[zinc ore]

Will Panther spawn on north Africa maps? 🫣

Did I understand that correctly?

[fluid pawn]

No, the panther was spawning on North Africa maps since 17.1. This has now been rectified 😄

[ruby pebble]

xbox not getting the update

[zinc ore]

Oh, thankfully. Scared me there for a bit lmao

Panzer III 50mm when?!

[fluid pawn]

Just checking this now for you all

[ruby pebble]

Cheers, as usual update is at prime time for australia and we are trying to do a 35v35 😂

[fluid pawn]

Apologies Gus Wanted to get it out ASAP before the weekend hence the early drop

[ruby pebble]

Nah understandable, we're used to it in OCE- most game updates are at 6-8pm lol. Appreciate the work you guys are doing!

just released @fluid pawn but a massive update size differences.
PC- 281mb
PS - 450mb
XB - 24gb

[fluid pawn]

Hmm that is odd. Let me chase the team quickly

[nova pivot]

Ben Have the flares changed only during the day or also at night?

[fluid pawn]

Just for the day time I believe

[nova pivot]

I've been testing it and I notice the light is less bright at night too.

Maybe it's my hallucinations.

[fluid pawn]

There may have been a slight re-tuning, however to my knowledge the day time flares was the change that was tackled

[green stag]

Flares were lighting up way too much. They would light up the area even if you were 400 metres away

[night lark]

Hopefully going to be on HLL tonight to see the last couple updates

[fluid pawn]

Okay, so just had clarification on this

Essentially how certain platforms handles installs is different, some platforms basically install the new files along with everything else, it is very annoying but nothing we can do about it. If you look at the actual file size, it doesn't grow that much extra.

[analog apex]

do you seriously think I don't know how to play Support correctly in my 8000+ hours (at least that's how you sound like 😏 )? Support is one of my most played classes (in case of disbelief, check my class stats online https://www.hllstats.dev/?steam64id=76561198809348696).

I was talking about the general XP gain imbalance between the classes. Every class is obviously possible to get to LVL 10, given time and dedication.

I got (not only) Support to LVL X before the nodes were even implemented btw. but still... the imbalance with other classes is there, which was my point. And with imbalance and holes in the system, building nodes is sadly the fastest way to LVL-up any class these days, Support included.

[wind shore]

Hello

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn its your birthday?

[analog apex]

no, he's just on hold 😄

[nova pivot]

aaa ok

[analog apex]

that was just a joke attempt on my part btw. ... no idea

[cyan saddle]

Almost. The game contents are packaged into one big file. Most platforms are capable of accounting for this and only download chunks of the file that were changed. Xbox has no such system in place and therefore it essentially reinstalls a huge portion of the game regardless of how small or large the update is.

The game could be packaged into multiple smaller files to mitigate some of the frustration, but in return the final file size will be larger. I'm also not sure how difficult it is to change this for an existing game.

[past veldt]

Nerd

[fluid pawn]

It was my birthday yesterday ☺️

[cyan saddle]

That's my second name

[fluid pawn]

This is true. Ben do B on hold

[wintry thistle]

Wait no way
Same lol

[fluid pawn]

Let's go! HBD Paul!

[burnt tree]

are all servers empty?

[analog apex]

eeeh... no?

[analog apex]

I thought "Usually" is your second name 😜

[burnt tree]

oh it's because i didnt update yet

i thought it was so weird

[gloomy crown]

Do we know if the addition of new weapons is planned as well? especially for the axis side it can get a little stale imo and there lots of potential german or captured by germans weapons left.

[cosmic pilot]

WRONG

[analog apex]

no that one's the 3rd

[cosmic pilot]

I disagree

[analog apex]

me too 😄

this video is cool, a nice sample of vast majority of the pub HLL players 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okehl1pY-D0

[wintry acorn]

24GB is actually wild, I don't think its fault to the Devs though

I got my update done super quick thankfully

[nova pivot]

Happy birthday (a little late) 🎉🎉🎂🎁🎉

[fluid pawn]

#mess-hall message

^ I posted clarification on this here Sarin 🙂

[wintry acorn]

Good to know, I'm on PS anyway but RIP to my buddy on Xbox when he finds out

[wind shore]

Happy birthday

[dapper sparrow]

Ok, cool ... so let's see what they broke this time ...

[proper grove]

i decided to play the game again, last time i was playing was 6 month ago. are there no official servers anymore (i find 2 with decent online in the browser)

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt play on the official servers, if I were you.

[hollow musk]

Official servers are a wee bit... rough, mostly filled with wee berries and such. Community servers are better as you have a higher chance of having a depressed Commander to lead the team to Victory or Sovngarde.

[wind shore]

How looks flares now

On night maps

[sudden moss]

I havent played this game since the africa update, is there any roadmap anywhere or is it known what is next for this game? Im interested to play again

[fluid pawn]

#telegrams message
^ Roadmap can be found here

Next update will include the rework to Stalingrad, followed up by the new Eastern Front map in the following update

[sudden moss]

Awesome thankyou!

Im wondering, has the performance gotten better at all? The entire like 5-6 years ive had this game I dont think ive ever gotten above 40 fps

[analog apex]

wtf - bumbing runs don't destroy garrisons anymore?

[wind shore]

Sorry

It would include news?

Ah

[cosmic pilot]

Unmaterializes your wood planks

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-movie-minecraft-steve-jack-black-gif-2020937100544272347

[wind shore]

Steeeve

https://youtu.be/LYgFBwUiEXo?si=dfiRYa0xX7CRVKg5

[proper grove]

are stutters and fatal error crashes a new thing that started happening after a recent patch?

cuz I have both, and Ive been looking at the chat history and seems people started having them around 26.06

[past vortex]

that happened before but it seems to be much more common now
remember that they changed the default to dx12, maybe try going back to dx11
but some who always had dx12 have problems so that doesnt have to be it

[storm stratus]

You just like to argue. I swear. I was just telling a player that its not the end of the world if you don’t get engie nodes down. Geez.

Give me a lecture.

[past vortex]

heresy

[analog apex]

whatever you say pal 😄

[storm stratus]

legit.

all the time.

are you ok ?

[analog apex]

you are the one right now... what do you expect to get after such comments?

[storm stratus]

this player is upset they have to play all game without nodes giving them EXP as if thats a game changing difference. you agree with them or being quiet ?

[analog apex]

it's not game changing difference, it is XP changing difference (XP was the topic after all - not the game in general) and a big one

it's a big difference on the personal level only

[storm stratus]

indeed its more affective. thats been established already.

[analog apex]

btw., server I was playing on right now, crashed after changing the map... the patch may not have been successful in getting rid of that problem 😦

[past vortex]

while you are still leveling your roles it does make a difference

[storm stratus]

most kits are done by level 5-6

[analog apex]

pretty much - the 1st I - IV class levels are pretty fast to get, like a handful of matches

but it gets visibly slower afterwards

[nova pivot]

I'm very excited about the rework.

[analog apex]

@fluid pawn just so you won't miss this - you may possibly get more of such reports even after the patch - seems the problem still persists

on the other hand I haven't crashed yet 😄

[storm stratus]

1-5 is like 28-29,000 exp.
5-10 is like 124-125,000exp.

[fluid pawn]

Same here. Cannot wait for it to go live

[nova pivot]

@fluid pawn I'm going to take advantage of the fact that Sam called you and I'll call you too, when can we expect another DEV brief?

[cosmic pilot]

No.
He been too many nights without s44

[fluid pawn]

Looking to get one out soon 🫡 Hopeuflly next one in the next few weeks

[analog apex]

here I gotta say then that we probably don't need one for another week or two at the very least - all is pretty fresh yet

[nova pivot]

That's why I ask, to be sure.

[analog apex]

sounds good

[fluid pawn]

I believe that the next one will likely be related to upcomming content so got to ensure that it's all ready to announce before we release the brief

And as you know, they do take a long time to write up both from myself and the dev team, especially as we're wanting to share more stuff with you where we can 🙂

[analog apex]

do you have any say in development btw.? it's just... ever since you became the CM we not only got nicely regular and relevant info but the devs seem to be working well too 😄

no matter the case - the difference between the current state and the state from a year+ ago is like comparing a day and night so... nice work there 😉

[fluid pawn]

I personally do not get a say in the development, especially with everything coming in the current roadmap (as I joined after a lot of it was finalised). In terms of future roadmaps, although I don't get a say in what is actually brough to the game I do help the team with their decisions and share feedback from the community on what they regularly talk about, requesting, etc.

[visual niche]

But you and Greg are besties

[analog apex]

do I smell the comment about the shovel and impenetrable coat again? 😄 or wait... was it Ben?

[fluid pawn]

The main thing that I do get to do is impact the communications though. That's pretty much my main purpose of being here, so I'm glad to hear that you are all approving of the increase in comms!

[analog apex]

definitely, you deserve a raise in my eyes man

your efforts are visible all the time

[fluid pawn]

SCREENSHOTTED AND TAKEN TO HR

📸 📸 📸

[analog apex]

seriously though 💯

[fluid pawn]

Appreciate that! Just glad that I'm making a positive impact

[analog apex]

any way to upvote/endoorse you anywhere on any Team17 pages btw.?

[fluid pawn]

I'm afraid not however appreciate the sentiment nonetheless!

Planning content for the rest of the year currently and am super excited to get a few more things off the ground in terms of community stuff.
The live Dev Q&As and the Best of the Community series have been a great start though!

[analog apex]

I can't wait and... yep - will have more questions for more possible Q&As ready too 🙂 .

[fluid pawn]

As always, any other community related ideas to please let me know folks. Especially now that we have the new website, I can start doing much more with blogs, as well as videos, etc.

[analog apex]

sounds like a good stuff. Thanks and appreciate you taking the time to chat! 😉

[eager crypt]

Echoing Sam’s sentiment: you’ve been a blessing to have around in terms of comms and development insights! ❤️

[grizzled kiln]

Tonks need some love ❤️ and soon. They've been neglected for too long.

[fluid pawn]

Armour update later this year too

[bitter cipher]

Maybe more customization options including ways to make our character avatar look characters from band of brothers for more cinematic experience

[finite berry]

BoB is so overrated

[thin lotus]

Looking forward to the ambient sounds and updated fire fx.
Truly incredible, 2025 big year, huge even.

😂

[fluid pawn]

As I mentioned earlier, I am not a part of the actual development of the game itself. That being said, I know the team are aware that people wish to customise their characters and it is something that's on their radar. Although it's something that may possibly coming the future, I don't believe it's something that will be coming to the game soon I'm afraid. If that changes though I'll be sure to let you all know 🙂

[bitter cipher]

Sounds good

[bitter cipher]

Its still my favorite show

[dusty bolt]

Looool

Crashing is still happening

@fluid pawn check bunker please. this is getting old

[runic veldt]

Definitely some more community guides would be quality - it’s a major hard wall for new players when trying the game.

Maybe some monthly community art competitions could be cool too? Would be a great way to get more engagement, there’s a big community as well that love collecting WW2 items could have some cool posts related to them and the history of them in relation to the maps on the games.

[fluid pawn]

Heading over now Glow

[fluid pawn]

Love these suggestions Nyko. Would 110% love to do some memorabilia/art competitions or blogs shouting out creators. Will add to the list!

[split hamlet]

Interview people who are known being great player in their role 🔥 Like interview with an MG player and ask all the questions about how to play the mg role and why they enjoy it and of course some secret tips and trix 😁
Then do like a series in the blog with every role in the game. Do not need to be a WC but to bring the community in as well as fun take to a sort of new player guide 😁

[dusty bolt]

People like @devout pivot of course

[gray garden]

Like this? https://youtu.be/jQnzdpc8nlI?si=xlrzVxCzommaIcpZ

[dusty bolt]

Can you make an announcement saying the hotfix didnt resolve the issue please

So everyone can know

[thin lotus]

they'll need to run at least two PTEs before they put out a hotfix again

🙈

[silk igloo]

Could ask people to submit their own "doctrines" on how games are won and how everyone should play. Although we debate that here every day...

[fluid pawn]

Interesting idea this I like this concept

[silk igloo]

my wide battle doctrine is the superior one of course

[thin lotus]

#hll-memes message

[cosmic pilot]

That's classified info

[cosmic pilot]

Eeewwww

Wide looses to defeat in detail

Might as well say, "Hell, let's lose".

[silk igloo]

bullets fly for 500 meters, you cant defeat something in front of you if you're getting crossfired from left and right

[cosmic pilot]

Sight lines are often shorter than that.
Wide also implied you're covering a 1.6km front.
If you attack only one flank, the people protecting the other flank aren't doing anything, giving the Attacker a bodies advantage

[sudden moss]

Guys idk if this is a known issue but I can't load into a game. Im just stuck on the menu with nothing happening after I get to the front of the queue

[cosmic pilot]

Hence, wide defence has a weakness to defeat in detail

[broken shoal]

Finally the patch. The game was unplayable

[silk igloo]

They can always push forward from an empty flank and crossfire/flank the nearest enemy. That's defeat in detail too. And a squad that knows to just hold ground can keep even three enemy squads at bay, especially if tanks are supporting the straight way. Of course it all depends heavily on terrain, maps like hurtgen and hill 400 are quite impossible to cover. But even in that case you only have to cover the 400m long softcap sides, often only one. As long as you go wider than the enemy you're targeting, even by just 100 meters, you have the upper hand.

Like an L-shaped ambush, your slightly longer line wraps around the enemy

[cosmic pilot]

You're ignoring the function of time, but you are grasping at my defensive doctrine. For HLL, the best defence is through counter attack, which is sorta like what you're describing but not quite.
As you mentioned, a wide defence can be heavily impacted by the terrain, and nothing changes troops being 200, 400, 800m out of position takes time to fix.

Meaning, wide's weakness to defeat in detail cannot be fully negated by the wide strategy.

[silk igloo]

On dense maps the only thing you can do is have a constant defense and counter-attack since you cant keep the map clear. But if you can, to the point where enemy recon cant get through, then only one guy has to stay behind in case of airheads. Everyone else can attack and wipe the map. Your arty would be unmolested while your recon would be hitting both their spawns and arty. And the enemy would have to defend against harassing spawns built in their rear, which should make the line even easier to hold as they cannot put all their troops on the attack.

[sudden moss]

also why tf does this game keep resetting my cosmetics every time I quite the game. I cant even load into a server. Im about to give up on this again this is probably why I quit before

Resetting all my settings as well, graphics and keybinds and all

[cosmic pilot]

That assumes you're winning straight on gunfights in a dominant manner. Which is fine, wide works when you can shoot better.
But wide doesn't work if you have poor shooters, because it essentially creates an even playing field for attackers and defenders.

[vivid temple]

We need a Diogo Jota DLC in Hell Let Loose

[sudden moss]

I keep getting "fatal error" when loading into a match

[steep mantle]

whats going on with the servers, some arent visible, some visible in serverbrowser of steam but connect fails later ingame

[thin lotus]

“X doesn’t work when you can’t hit your targets”
Profound, inspiring even.

[supple ferry]

You can set your settings file to be read only, that will prevent it from being re-written

Or you need to set read only off, and then change settings

[cosmic pilot]

A chumism 🫶

[sudden moss]

Where do I do that?

[silk igloo]

Well the line doesnt have to be equally thick. Four squads for 3 grids, two squads for the last 3 would work. On Kursk a single squad can hold the last 400 meters by themselves if the SP is on the other side. If you really got to it, most maps have lots of open areas and chokepoints that can be observed with minimal amount of people. That's another thing - if every player does his best to keep the largest area or longest line possible killed, like a road, the enemy has nowhere to go without getting shot and having their tanks at least spotted far in advance. And their red garris will always be locked.

[thin lotus]

Hlls shooting is so easy and bullets hit so hard so much that if a player can’t do something as simple as hitting targets,theyre a dud member of team

[supple ferry]

Few videos out there that describe how to do it!

I’ll see if I can find one later for ya, but YouTube has some good stuff

[sudden moss]

Thankyou. Ill give it a google

Not sure if theres much point though because this game seems unplayable unstable. Its crashed like 6 times in the past hour and I cant even load into a match

[cosmic pilot]

Manning the line as thin as possible means you are sacrificing staying power, which is essentially the number of bodies you need to still effectively accomplish your mission.
Which is why I've developed the theory of breakthrough.

[dapper sparrow]

JUST FIX THE ISSUES! And stop messing with things noone cares about - who came up with the idea of using the flares to light everything up like it's a bordello anyway!?

[cosmic pilot]

British detected

[sudden moss]

Bruh this game just blue screened my pc

How is this less stable than it was 4 years ago, and 4 years ago it was terribly optimised

Just gonna uninstall again, what’s the point. I racked up 250+ hours when I used to play but when I can only sit in the main menu this is just 50gb of wasted space on my ssd

[silk igloo]

more like your drive is corrupted or something. run chkdsk /f /r in cmd prompt for starters

[sudden moss]

This game won’t work regardless. It’s crashed 7+ times in the main menu in the last hour. I can’t load into a match, either just stays in the menu or the game crashes. Keeps resetting my settings and cosmetics every time the game closes too

[harsh tinsel]

If I drop 50+ kills, half a dozen dismantles, help create about ten structures, My class goes up under half a level. I played commander for the first time and got nearly three levels... Support just takes a really, really long time to level, as do the 'kill focused' classes. I kinda just think the roles outside of medic need some xp boosts. I have hobbies and games outside of HLL, and realistically don't want to be spending weeks to unlock the flamethrower class or whatever have you just because the accrual is quite slow.

I just think it's a bit of an unrealistically slow progression speed for a match based fps. If I do sub objectives and whatever my class is supposed to do, I should progress well and not feel like I'm doing little to nothing is all.

[wind shore]

Yo

[harsh tinsel]

Most likely won't unlock the level 8 class for support by the time I leave for the army in 2 months and just really wanna try out the flamethrower and such

its hard to level things especially when you switch by needs of the squad/team. But it does seem they are switching up xp ^^

Just got a screen on startup, a bunch of soldiers among ruined field artillery and tanks staring on. Can't enter main menu. What is this?

[bitter cipher]

Maybe I will join the game when the servers are more stable

[night lark]

Bob the builder exists

[harsh tinsel]

Still takes quite a while and isn't always applicable

But yeah, I've been doing it. Some servers have no supplies

[spring surge]

4th OF JULY TMMRW RAHHHHHH

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/germany-flag-flag-waver-gif-15292710

-# I know hyrum is gonna ruin this...

[spring surge]

@cosmic pilot ^

[worthy charm]

Noooo

[cosmic pilot]

why would you bait me like this

[spring surge]

LOLL

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-5787005613059506418

[cosmic pilot]

why do i all of a sudden feel the desire to buy combat mission cold war

[spring surge]

are u german

just a question

https://tenor.com/view/lion-lions-sigma-sigma-male-quotes-gif-16343707733892664706

[worthy charm]

Noooooooo, why would you even think such a grotesk thing?

[spring surge]

LOL sorryyy

[worthy charm]

Im joking

Yes im german

[spring surge]

what is ptenda

[worthy charm]

:}

[spring surge]

a smile?

[worthy charm]

runs away and hides

[spring surge]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-boy-nice-guy-turn-from-nice-guy-to-slightly-bad-boy-slightly-bad-boy-tik-tok-gif-25518244

[wind shore]

PTEnda it’s

Guys who played beta test

[finite berry]

:(

You know the first and foremost rule :)

[wind shore]

In Germany you can buy electric bike

Or 🛴

[spring surge]

what does that mean

[wind shore]

And mostly it’s the best vehicle

[spring surge]

what u said

[finite berry]

Should've thought about the Kommentarsektion becoming Eigentum of the Bundesrepublik Deutschland before posting that gif :D

[wind shore]

🛴

[spring surge]

it got deleted

[finite berry]

German national anthem in caps lock

[spring surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/923755846717026314/1131673397445800097/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

[wind shore]

🇩🇪 ❤️

[cosmic pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-gif-gif-13236175684798649698

[spring surge]

LOL

[wind shore]

Somebody can eat

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-sure-gif-4925069175594677370

[spring surge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1145615801081139210/1152368089829228664/attachment.gif

teaching em young

[finite berry]

You know the truth >:)

[wind shore]

Hey what do you think about new vehicles

What did Ben said I couldn’t understand

Armour rework its new tank also?

It would be goat

KV-1

[river jackal]

only thing is i feel like the maps are too small for more tanks, they'd definitely need to be enlarged significantly

[spring surge]

mr kedo why did u delete ur message

[wind shore]

New types of tanks

It’s not enough and IS-1 is not accurate

Needs normal and iconic tank KV-1

And BT-6

More Soviets vehicles

And Germans

It had a lot of vehicles which could be balanced and would be new

[river jackal]

IS-1 was not even used, it was rapidly replaced by the IS-2

[wind shore]

IS-1 it’s 1944

Please don’t use tank which is for 1944

[river jackal]

IS-2 is '44 too lol

[wind shore]

For 1942, if it has KV-2

[river jackal]

both actually entered production in '43

[finite berry]

he should do that more often

[river jackal]

KV-2 and IS-2 were in production at the same and both used as heavy tanks

[wind shore]

KV-2

[river jackal]

the Germans in terms of heavies only had Tiger 1 and Tiger 2 late war

[wind shore]

I’m not only about heavies

[river jackal]

Panther is historically classified as a MEDIUM tank

[wind shore]

About variations which game can get

And it would be interesting to drive different tanks

And to see it on the battlefield

Different and not unexpected vehicles

[river jackal]

yeah there needs to be more tank variety

[wind shore]

Why it’s so limited

Oh IM already know that it’s will be new tank

IS-1! ITS NEW TANK

but nothing more I can expect to see on the battlefield

It’s not big variety to choose from

Oh, that’s a tank!

[river jackal]

why are you so insistent on the IS-1 lol

[wind shore]

And you already know which tank could be

If it would be above 50+ vehicles and tanks

You will always suprised to see

New tank

[river jackal]

it would be the IS-2, the IS-1 was not really produced by the soviets

[wind shore]

If we had 50+ or 100+ vehicles

And tanks

Different models

It would be more interesting to play tank

Cause you always will expect any tank

Marder or StuG

Flak or Nevelwerfer

[river jackal]

yes we do indeed need more tanks, i think we also need maps to be expanded by 2x or 3x

[wind shore]

And it should be new types of planes also

Like more Messerschmitt

New types of any vehicles

It’s boring that we have very limited edition

[river jackal]

motorcycles? horses?

[wind shore]

Motorcycles

Horses could be also but it’s not interesting

[river jackal]

over 11 million horses just counting Germany and the Soviets served in WW2

[wind shore]

For transporting resources

[river jackal]

yes, but i wanna do a cavalry charge in WW2 and get massacred by an MG

[wind shore]

Steel vehicles

[storm stratus]

Lmao. Played commander for the first time… yeh you will go up levels fast. The further you go up the further apart the levels are. Dismantles now are 150 pts per garry. Fyi.

[broken shoal]

is it only me or voice chat not working on community servers?

[spring surge]

yeah this game is full of bugs rn

[south lion]

Are the servers down for yall?

I’m gonna try to reboot the game

[broken shoal]

yeah they are down. guess ill go to squad

[spring surge]

yep same for me..

nothing is showing up.

[wind shore]

Yo

[molten lintel]

I thought severs would just crash every now and then not whole servers being offline 😭

[lost orbit]

yep

[spring surge]

@lost pulsar all servers are down, why?

[slate canopy]

Don't ping Greg 😦

[worthy charm]

Or he will get the shovel

[spring surge]

either way why are servers down

[lost orbit]

it says "search failed" for me

[spring surge]

yep

[dapper sparrow]

This is just ridiculous ... how can a company completely mess this up? At this point in time, I am pretty sure not one of the people working at T17 actually play this game at all. This is just basic quality control ...

[slate canopy]

Greg isn't even the (temp) Community Manager anymore, that's Ben 😛

[spring surge]

yeah i think i might quit

[river jackal]

what happened?

[spring surge]

all servers are down

[slate canopy]

Y'all impatient lmao

[river jackal]

server reset or system maintenance maybe?

[spring surge]

no, where not?

[broken shoal]

Love this game and i support every dlc they release but is getting ridiculous

[spring surge]

this game just needs to fix its stuff

[spring surge]

ong

[slate canopy]

I see servers are active via battlenetrics

Clear your Steam cache?

[spring surge]

im not on steam

im on consle

[river jackal]

ewww

poor 🤢

[spring surge]

ur a furry?

[river jackal]

nah

[spring surge]

grow tf up

[lost orbit]

😭😭 lmao

[spring surge]

who cares if im on consle

mind ur damn business

and nobody is adding ur alt

[river jackal]

quiet down poor

[spring surge]

ur a furry bro i dont wanna hear it fr

[river jackal]

im not a tech nerd so i literally cannot be a furry, all furries are tech nerds

[spring surge]

stop pretending your a animal

[lost orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-gif-27136442

[worthy charm]

Guys 👀

Dont make me smite thee

[river jackal]

tell that poor to get off my meat then pls

9070xt, 9800x3d, 64gb ram oh yeah

[spring surge]

you started talking sh first

[spring surge]

^

see? @worthy charm

this thing started it first whatever creature it is.

[dark burrow]

Are there currently known issues with servers not displaying on xbox game pass for PC?

[pearl pond]

How do I report cheating?

[spring surge]

dm @scarlet linden

[worthy charm]

Noooo

dont dm the bot

[spring surge]

is it down too

[worthy charm]

he is inncocent

[spring surge]

LOL

[wind shore]

If I’ve seen cheater

In GTA online

What should I do

[spring surge]

leave the session

[wind shore]

He dropped bag and I got 99999999$

[worthy charm]

#player-support message You can report people on this website, but be cautious that it requires evidence.

[spring surge]

oh nvm stay in

[wind shore]

How can I delete this money

I’m billionaire

[worthy charm]

And you dont boost this server?

scandalous

[slate canopy]

You deal with these folks, I gotta work out

[spring surge]

💪

wow ur first message

[vapid stream]

console issue for sure, nobody joined our console server for 17 mins…

[wind shore]

Payment doesn’t work

If I could

[worthy charm]

Thats not my first message

[spring surge]

bruh

[wind shore]

I’ve already been nitro

[drowsy sierra]

Anyone struggling to see servers. I’ve got 6 and 4 are empty

[spring surge]

it says it is for me

[drowsy sierra]

Normally got like 10-15-20

[spring surge]

yuh

[worthy charm]

Only cool people got admin view though 😎

and my first message is in an very old suggestion post.

[finite berry]

Did it happen on an official server?

[pearl pond]

Yes

[finite berry]

No point in reporting it

Official servers are unmoderated

Just don't play on them

[spring surge]

whats the point of mods then

[finite berry]

Only play on community-hosted servers, those have actual moderation

[finite berry]

Like I said, they don't have moderators

[pearl pond]

Well, when I want to play and there aren't any other servers I'll play official ones.

[finite berry]

Okay, but be aware that there might be cheaters that won't be dealt with

[pearl pond]

Bear anti cheat working a treat then

The player has been doing it for about a month

[worthy charm]

Its still a better experience to seed a community server for 30 minutes than to play only one minute on an official one.

[pearl pond]

Lol

[pulsar phoenix]

Cant even play community servers on console right now anyway🤣

Won't show any servers, the ones they do show are offline

[finite berry]

He is right, tho

[slate canopy]

Did console servers not do update maybe?

[pulsar phoenix]

I got an update from 2 hours ago, was working fine last night, ever since that update from today went through the servers won't work

[lost orbit]

What's seeding

[slate canopy]

The servers have to update too, not just the user.

[worthy charm]

The process of filling a server.

We got Server owners in #console-seeding-help and #pc-seeding-help advertising their servers for that.

[pearl pond]

I do find it annoyingly amusing that a team won't vote to kick a hacker though and would rather win unfairly.

[bitter cipher]

I will be lurking around

[slate canopy]

If this is on a community server, go report it to them.

[spring surge]

can smb spam ping my dms when servers are up or js spam ping me in general

[lost orbit]

how do you know if someone is even hacking in this game 😭

[pearl pond]

It wasn't, they've been banned from at least one community server I know of, the player has been on official ones the last month hacking constantly

[pearl pond]

Insta spawning tanks where they died, removing enemy garries and OPs in an instant

[lost orbit]

damn

[slate canopy]

The two I experienced, it was an obvious. We wouldn't even get to mid point, seeing NO ONE on the enemy team (one example was Careten with Town Center midpoint) and all died. We spawn at a garrison behind a building with 4 wall fence, all die on it.

[slate canopy]

Then you have to report them to their respective communities (Steam, Xbox, PS, Epic). You can find out more on the support on HLL website (on phone so cannot easily link it)

Also don't play official lol

[south lion]

Welp hopefully the servers aren’t down for long

[sly ore]

Hi, I have a problem with not showing servers on epic after uploading

[silent bramble]

Hotfix update broke the servers?

[past vortex]

wdym uploading

[silent bramble]

He probably means updating

[past vortex]

i had to refresh a few times on epic to get a normal amount of servers

[silent bramble]

Refresh on epic? Just press the refresh button at the bottom of the enlist/server selection page?

[past vortex]

yea

[silent bramble]

Copy thx

[slate canopy]

I saw similar suggestion on Reddit.

[sly ore]

Does he know when they solve the problem?

[tall kindle]

Same what’s happening

Enlist servers are fcked

[sly ore]

They say they will fix it tomorrow.

[keen lagoon]

Great update T17.

[maiden iron]

Hi everyone, I came looking for help about the servers not appearing, I thought it was just me haha ​​I saw that it's happening to some people too

[keen lagoon]

It’s everyone dude.

[dire coral]

shame

[sly ore]

they messed something up

[dire coral]

got a scrim today

[sly ore]

tomorrow they said they will fix it

[maiden iron]

That's a problem, some are able to play, others are not, today we would have a scrim

[maiden iron]

yeah

[slate canopy]

See if refresh the list a couple times help? Some have said that.

[maiden iron]

I did this, a server only appeared in Asia haha

[sly ore]

don't try to go, I've been trying for 3 hours

[maiden iron]

I played earlier today with a lot of fighting, I had a lot of lag

[sly ore]

I do that but nothing

[ruby river]

hey is anyone elses audio echoey

[spring surge]

https://tenor.com/view/бан-gif-1220664386163639405

[solemn spear]

If this is what it takes to fix the recon flares we can just live with it guys we promise

[empty steppe]

But prwety

[spring surge]

bro my teamates litteraly ran infront of my machine gun fire

then punished me

for killing him

[round mesa]

You automatically get punished for teamkills. Regardless of whether someone clicks the punish button.

[past vortex]

https://status.epicgames.com/

[cyan saddle]

Good ol' uncle Epic at it again

[past vortex]

:{

i just had my bockwurst and was so ready for another game :{

[spring surge]

are servers down again..

[slate canopy]

It's because of Epic.

Console uses the same API as epic soooo

[empty steppe]

Sometimes I like to pretend I’m a Soviet penal unit and just mow anyone who retreats

[timber tartan]

Epic servers down for HLL or smth

[slate canopy]

yup

https://status.epicgames.com/ Look in here 👀

[timber tartan]

perfect
cheers

totally didnt want to play lmao

[past vortex]

epic is back on

[spring surge]

finnaly

[wind shore]

Is anyone else still finding empty lobbies?

[past vortex]

depends on my filter settings :}

[wind shore]

Hmmmm, my hll has a single player in a single server.

Restarting and checking my driver's, maybe something is wonky on my end

[spring surge]

no

the game just sucks right now

[cyan saddle]

Sounds like you might still be on an outdated version. Check for updates in Steam.

[spring surge]

hi

are servers back up, to busy playing gta

[humble swallow]

Is this crossplay now?

[analog apex]

nope, nor are any plans for that at this time, according to the devs when they last mentioned it some longer time ago

[humble swallow]

Ahhhhh okay

I saw an option when my buddy was showing me on PC

Guess I will not be buying this yet

[analog apex]

crossplay is only among different consoles among themselves and different PC clients among themselves, but no consoles <> PC

[humble swallow]

Thank you Sam!

[spring surge]

for consle

xbox can play with ps

but xbox and ps cant play w pc

[humble swallow]

That is the type of game I am looking for unfortunately. Thank you so much!

[spring surge]

oh alright.

and your welcome !

[spring surge]

4TH OF JULYYYY

[analog apex]

The aliens are coming 🥶 😃

[worthy charm]

New gamemode confirmed?

[dusty timber]

My friends! Is there somewhere we can find out what maps are in development? Or things like that? I have access to the Steam DEV BRIEF, but there's little talk about new maps in development, new weapons... or things like that.

[nova pivot]

You can raid their offices and see what you find on the computers, or hack them, I can't think of anything else.

[worthy charm]

You can watch their dev stream on YouTube. #telegrams message

Or you go into #1369174494631166042 and read.

The new maps this year are tobruk and one currently unknown soviet map.

Also they are working on a Stalingrad rework

[wind shore]

As I understand it

Stalingrad rework

Next

And next is map

[azure heath]

as a little fourth of July present we should get a sneak peak at a new Soviet Map

because that makes sense.. right?

[worthy charm]

Very smart indeed

[azure heath]

Just a pixel or two is all.

[dense jewel]

BEST OF TANKFEST 2025 - The Tank Museum, Bovington UK
https://youtu.be/kb0FONYG_LQ

[pine ember]

Hopefully its a second Kursk map

[azure heath]

I hope we get an underwater map

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[wind shore]

I hope it’s Poltava

[azure heath]

I like church

[wind shore]

🐟

[pine ember]

Hah

[night lark]

If they add the Japanese as a faction id hope we get the battle Imphal and Kohima as maps

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sus-sponge-sus-spongebob-sus-suspicious-gif-16291095943088527850

[broken shoal]

Never gonna happen

[pine ember]

Just fix the game first before adding new content

Class, loadout and armor rework, bux fixing and quality of life. And please give us subfactions rather than inaccurate DLC

[wind shore]

What

We need new content also

Leave us with out it it’s bad

[silk igloo]

My biggest priority is tweaking the game so it's way more intuitive, so that one person cannot capture a point by themselves or create stealthy spawns by himself. It just hurts everyone's enjoyment and teaches people to play very badly when they learn to win against opponents who aren't aware of the risks, and then always lose against people who do watch out for airheads and "sneaky" spawns.

[pine ember]

New content wont help the game if its mechanics are bad

[wind shore]

It would

Needs parachuting mechanics

🪂

[pine ember]

No

[wind shore]

Why not

[pine ember]

It isnt possible and doesnt fit into the game

[silk igloo]

None of the maps are historical drop zones, right?

[pine ember]

Only SMDM and SME somewhat

Imo Paratroopers alongside Inf, Armor and Recon is too much

[wind shore]

SME

[silk igloo]

Yeah, it'd have to be a new mode where paras drop scattered around the map at night, and they have no squad or leadership comms or map before they find their officer. After that they'd get a random objective like holding a crossroad, blowing up something etc, while germans would have random stuff like driving something from X to Y, using AA guns, patrolling against paras after they've been sighted, stuff like that. It'd be completely different from HLL and nobody would play it. And they would have to make a para subfaction so that they have proper para uniforms only.

[bitter cipher]

I do agree that fixing the game should be top priority

[worthy charm]

Thats something people have agreed on for the past like 4 years.😅

Or even longer if your name is Sam.

[bitter cipher]

That’s understandable

[wind shore]

Hello

[bitter cipher]

Hi

[wind shore]

I’m new

[pine ember]

Almost a year on the Server isn’t new

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-of-lies-angry-pissed-gif-14324293

[bitter cipher]

I only been here almost a month

[wind shore]

I’m new player! And wants to know how to play

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-a-joke-just-a-joke-penguin-cute-im-not-joking-gif-17171068

[worthy charm]

Alt + F4, then go into Steam and delete the game.

[wind shore]

😂😅

[worthy charm]

Thats the best way

[wind shore]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-villager-staring-phoenixsc-gif-25945930

[bitter cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/band-of-brothers-band-of-brothers-show-band-of-brothers-hbo-where-the-fuck-is-everybody-band-of-brothers-where-is-everybody-gif-16970691641036800207

[wind shore]

Band of brothers

[wraith thistle]

Can we get some love against a hacker on Europe #01 Haaappyyyy ? He was cheating last week and hes back doing it again

[wind shore]

I confirm that, seems familiar nickname

Of cheater

[wraith thistle]

Yeah he was cheating when I was playing on Tuesday too. Dunno how he's allowed to get to level 131 and not get caught

[silk igloo]

have you politely asked him to stop cheating because it makes many people sad? im pretty sure it's the only thing people havent tried yet

im sure it would work on at least some cheaters, or any people that behave badly. seems like a very rare thing, people's reaction generally is to censor, ban, cancel, insult back, and it doesnt seem like any of these have quite positive effects

[past vortex]

lol

[silk igloo]

maybe im just projecting. i know those things dont work on me when im angry, but appealing to empathy would

[past vortex]

someone who is cheating for an extended time does that consciously tho

[empty steppe]

Just shoot him

That ez

[past vortex]

i saw a really bad case of non-existent self-controll yesterday
someone asked commander for a tank shouting and finishing with b*tch
commander totally lost it immeadiatly :D

i simply left the game, didnt want to play under that commander :}

[silk igloo]

what, like he got very insulted over it instead of insulting him back and then continuing the game?

[past vortex]

he went totally off rails

[silk igloo]

i wonder why that happens to some people. maybe it's inexperience and you just need to get insulted until you cease to take damage from it

[past vortex]

it wasnt even a real insult
the tanker was just doing gangsta talk

thats why it was so out of proportion

[silk igloo]

maybe he was under stress from your team playing badly and that was the last straw

[past vortex]

yea some commanders are really on edge

[silk igloo]

well i've ragequit out of a squad twice the last two weeks so i cant blame them

[wraith thistle]

We got him kicked but he just came back with another account 'give me 1m' same clan tag [TP]

[silk igloo]

either he's an idiot or he wants to defame that clan, which is a lead. 🔍 👒

[fluid shale]

Yo anyone know why my voice isn't being recorded from the game?

https://medal.tv/games/hell-let-loose/clips/kCKFSIUJYto8kaVu7?invite=cr-MSxRN3csMjA0NjE0NDQ2

video slightly relevant just my name goes green but no sound is in the end recording idk if anyone can help

[silk igloo]

You're recording the game, but since the game does not play back your voice to yourself, it picks up nothing.

[harsh tinsel]

Place satchel... Teammate rushes in, throws down spawn..

Entire unit spawns... 💀

First time getting kicked

"Satchel down church 1f" isn't a good enough callout apparently

[wind shore]

No cheats

The game should be honest

With out exploits

[harsh tinsel]

?

[silk igloo]

too many people either dont have working comms, cant understand english, or have to be shot in the leg to get their attention. i'd rather not satchel buildings because of this. with tanks any friendly fire is acceptable

[harsh tinsel]

Nothing of value was lost

[bitter cipher]

At this point I don’t know much much longer the game will last with all these exploit users

[past vortex]

you will have to include the mic in the recording software

idk, it doesnt even work for me (and others) :}

they will let you know, no worries :}

[past vortex]

dont play on offical servers

[bitter cipher]

I nearly had my ears destroyed by the static of other people’s mic yesterday

[split hamlet]

When I play officer I often ask "mic check mic check?" in both unit and command radio just making sure everything is working, people are often friendly and helping out

[finite berry]

Only one way to find out

[finite berry]

As if anything could genuinely end this game lol

[fluid shale]

ohh yeah lol

[past vortex]

a working alternative could

and fast

[fluid shale]

seems obvious now

[finite berry]

nah

Even then HLL would still continue on

It would lose a lot of players, but it would live on

[twin abyss]

But satcheling buildings is FUN

[vagrant ingot]

is there a possibility to see the winter war or the continuation war in the game

[grizzled marten]

Server list down on console?

@fluid pawn

[river jackal]

If they die...they die

[past vortex]

and if they punish you get kicked :}

[south storm]

Epic Games down too? I don't have all the servers listed

[past vortex]

yea epic too, this time without anything on their status page

[harsh tinsel]

I instantly got kicked since around 8-10 people died

They kinda deserved to lose that match lmao

[grizzled marten]

Did a nuke hit one of the server farms?

[harsh tinsel]

No one dropping supplies, no engis building, recons in our own backline doing nothing

[dark burrow]

Servers down again?

[past vortex]

now with status
https://status.epicgames.com/

[dark burrow]

Probably out shooting fireworks instead of doing their job.

[past vortex]

was yesterday already so thats prob not it

[broken shoal]

all my homies hate epic

[rare island]

real

is HLL the only game affected by this tomfoolery?

[bitter cipher]

Does this also go for the steam version?

[empty steppe]

I’m one of your homies too 🙋‍♂️

[rare island]

nah my friend on steam can still play

W Epic

[bitter cipher]

I play the game on steam as well

Not an epic games fan either

[finite berry]

Epic Games Store is shite

No one would use it if it weren't for the free games

Aside from that, Steam is superior in EVERY way

[finite berry]

(Well, and SDK)

[amber knoll]

why cant i get the winter warfare free dlc? why is it hidden?

[rare island]

server is back W

[sullen viper]

Is it a question or are they actually back ?

[broken shoal]

epic games without fornite would dissappear

[empty steppe]

Steam is the most based platform for gaming on the face of the planet

[finite berry]

F u ck Fortnite, Epic Games literally made Unreal Tournament '99 🥹

[finite berry]

Facts

[empty steppe]

If earth was run by steam support we’d be in the helldivers universe already

[past vortex]

only available in rl winter and vv for summer dlc

[worthy charm]

They still have unreal engine, which shouldnt be underestimated.

[amber knoll]

vv? and thats annoying given that i still have winter maps lol but oh well

[sick blade]

Can't play from PC Xbox.

[worthy charm]

gog is slowly building up do be a great platform as well, especially because they give games away forever unlike steam or epic.

[sick blade]

Nevermind, servers are back up on Xbox app

[sullen viper]

Servers are up for Epic

[broken shoal]

stop lying

60% of the people on the server i play left lol

[wind shore]

How

[river jackal]

Counterpoint; if i ran earth we'd be beyond that in half the time

[empty steppe]

Hmmmmmm

[harsh tinsel]

Any way to keep game volume running when alt tabbed?

[lost orbit]

are the servers back up and working yet?

[sullen viper]

Im playing right now

[bronze onyx]

Theres no better feeling than getting a bunch of recommendations at the end of a match from randoms

[harsh tinsel]

Wish servers didn't kick for no officer

I barely ever get to play the classes I want

Because I need to go the "Can I get supplies for garry here" 'no' class

[worthy charm]

The official servers dont. 😅

[harsh tinsel]

I might switch to playing them since the server rules are frustrating.

NO you can't play recon! No you can't play without an officer! Etc... Just gets a bit overwhelmingly restrictive lol

[worthy charm]

I wouldnt recommend it, but do as you please.

[harsh tinsel]

Any servers you'd recommend?

[worthy charm]

I only play on german community servers...

Im sure the names woulndt help you at all.

[tired ingot]

Look for servers with beginner friendly in the name. They at least shouldn't have level restrictions on roles. They may or may not have the leaderless squad disbanding

Otherwise trying out different servers.

I would recommend community servers over official

As you find servers you like add to favourites

[wind shore]

Guys we need Gewehr 98

And old weapons and rare which was in use

It could be nice addition

[wind shore]

Hello

I think battle of Bulge another map could be nice also

Or map with cross area

Like by river

[wet furnace]

Hey where can we see our current server at now?

[empty steppe]

St vith pls

A good old urban snow map would go hard

[night lark]

I british Normandy map would be cool. Maybe around Caen or Tilly Sur Suelles

[lean basin]

Never gonna happen

[swift oxide]

How i use the skins? I purchased them but I never got a screen to download them. Using ps5

[pine ember]

No

Only gun really missing in the German arsenal is the G41

G98 was barely in use in WW2 since the German army used newer guns since 1923

[pine ember]

We have it

[arctic rampart]

Holy shamoly! I bought a rice cooker

[teal cove]

guys why i get copletely ignored on half servers? i use text chat and people seem to absolutely ignore me, i ask stuff and they dont answer, unless you are speaking with people on voicechat. idk its not drama, but it feels not right.

[finite berry]

Use your mic?

[craggy steppe]

I never even have text chat open.

[oak current]

text chat hidden automatically

[real parrot]

Usually no one reads text chat, we all use vc

[worthy charm]

Text chat isnt really useful... I may used it like a handful of times, but if you want to ask anything about the game do it in #new-recruit-barracks or look into #1273828697941606450 there could arealdy be an answer.

[teal cove]

too bad im really shy

[finite berry]

No offence, but that's a you problem then

Like Shadow and Willes already said, text chat is inefficient, basically no one uses it

Just talk, that's easier

[teal cove]

your basically saying i cant play this gamee. i mean, probably tahst why i quitted it on the xbox 1 year ago. i couldnt even chat

[finite berry]

All I'm saying is that text chat is practically useless and that your best way of interacting with the rest of your team is using a microphone

If that would result in you being unable to play this game depends solely on you

[real parrot]

Also many people will Kick you off their Squad/server if not vc

I would

[lost narwhal]

do grenades damage tanks?

[pine ember]

No

[real parrot]

No they don't

[warm kindle]

Which are the best servers for new players because some say 75+ or something like that

[arctic rampart]

That's good then. So either start using your mic or piss off to The Sims. Ain't no one reading chat nor' will they start.

[real parrot]

Whatever server that you can stay in without a pop out in german telling you that you need to cook kartofel to play

[tired ingot]

the text chat has a game setting where it can be hidden and only visible on toggle. Many players may have text chat hidden. Voice comms are more efficient, the Hell Let Loose community is great, much less toxic than many other games, perhaps because of community run servers. If you do stick to text comms until you build up more confidence to use voice, try and find a squad where someone is responsive and can relay your comms, although not as efficient.

[tired ingot]

Most other servers that don't have level restriction should be good for new players, some servers have new player friendly in their name

[dapper sparrow]

Team 17 has been adamantly pushing for a more casual game play in order to compete against BF and MWF and maybe recoup a bit of money from their "investment". They have done this by messing with the run speed, the tanks and introducing non-historic maps (i.e. maps that align "better" for this run and gun mentality). This has resulted in long term fans (I started in 2019) to either minimize or completely stop playing the game, and new players casually jumping on. This has led to everyone just doing their own thing, i.e. not communicate or care.

[pine ember]

Yes, sadly you are right

This, and its getting more and more inaccurate

[dapper sparrow]

inaccurate?

[wind shore]

Which maps

Are in accurate

@dapper sparrow

[dapper sparrow]

Driehl, Tarkov, El Alemein off the top of my head

[wind shore]

Kharkov?

[dapper sparrow]

no idea

[wind shore]

Why are El Alamein is in accurate

[pine ember]

More and more guns, uniforms and vehicles that simply do not fit the setting nor with the games original philosophy

[dapper sparrow]

completely agree ...

[pine ember]

Kharkov and Driel are alright, El Al is completely made up though

[wind shore]

It should be flat desert in El Alamein mostly you meant this

And what’s with Driel

[dapper sparrow]

So the Germans built a huge bridge across a river that you can walk and drive through? Sure ...

[pine ember]

Just give us the 2021 version of HLL back as a veterans version

[dapper sparrow]

This is El Alemein: https://www.google.co.za/maps/place/El-Alamein ....

[wind shore]

And?

….

[pine ember]

It isnt accurate

[wind shore]

Whats wrong with El Alamein

It should be urban?

[dapper sparrow]

it on the coast ...

[pine ember]

Real El Alamein was different

[pine ember]

No...

Back then nothing was there, except a small railway station

[dapper sparrow]

The whole idea behind the game when Black Matter was building it is to consult real maps from that time ...

[pine ember]

And that is getting lost, as do other ideas the original devs had

Accurate uniforms? Sure, lets introduce 50 DLC so everyone wears a different one

Accurate guns? Sure, lets add the FG42, P14 Rifle, Lanchester and M97 Trench gun that all barely saw action on the front and werent needed either

[nova pivot]

They have to make money somehow.

[pine ember]

There are better ways

They could search other ways to make money or atleast make proper DLC

[wind shore]

Lanchester was removed

What do you meant by that proper DLC

[nova pivot]

Better for the historical part of the game but to make money it's best to make uniforms that look good and unique.

Because if not, nobody would buy them.

I agree with you, it's not the right way, but I can understand it.

[pine ember]

That "they need money" Argument is a weak one, DLC do not make 90% of their income, and other, smaller games manage to develop better content faster without DLC for a game that costs 50 bucks in its base variant

[pine ember]

Still it was in the game...

[wind shore]

…

Bruh

It was removed and corrected

[pine ember]

Accurate ones is the key. This isnt Fortnite

[nova pivot]

But the developers of those games probably loved the games they were making.

[pine ember]

So should other things

[wind shore]

Uniforms are historically accurate

[pine ember]

So most likely do the HLL devs

[wind shore]

What’s with problem with it then

[pine ember]

Not all of them

[wind shore]

Watch Frosty 1 channel on YT

[pine ember]

We talked too much about that already, you know it

[nova pivot]

Loving a game does more than having money or a great team, look at Stardew Valley

[wind shore]

And he will show the same uniforms which is in the game for Normandy

He fixing historically accuracies

Yes, and it would be the same

[pine ember]

I dont see what you are hinting too... There are smaller games that dont have such a DLC policy, cost way less but they still manage to pump out more and better content

[wind shore]

Except new weapons and French tanks for Normandy

[pine ember]

I know that guy

[pine ember]

No, it wouldnt

[wind shore]

So he shows the uniforms for Medal of Honor

Which is in the game

[pine ember]

There were no French tanks in Normandy

[wind shore]

And correct ones

[nova pivot]

Because they love the game they are making and the project they are working on without their main objective being to make money.

[pine ember]

Medal of Honor isnt HLL

[nova pivot]

However, T17's goal is clearly to make money.

[pine ember]

HLL devs also say they love their game

[nova pivot]

People say many things

[pine ember]

No one can blame them, but then, they should do it better

[wind shore]

But anyways what’s game missing its weapons and tanks

[pine ember]

Right now the DLC are a complete mess and its inaccurate

[pine ember]

Tanks yes, weapons, no...

[wind shore]

If you talking about new uniforms and more more , cause it’s in accurate. It is accurate

[pine ember]

The guns that were used are in the game

[pine ember]

Thats false

[wind shore]

You are against DLC at all

[dapper sparrow]

I call ..... on that - they haven't played a full round in about 3 years.

[pine ember]

No...

[wind shore]

So what do you suggest

[pine ember]

Stop making assumptions...

[wind shore]

Make 10 Feldgrau DLC?

[pine ember]

Just look at the suggestions

[wind shore]

Which would be 1 uniform in different forms

[pine ember]

No dude...

[nova pivot]

But they are attractive to the casual public, who do not understand much about history or do not give it much importance.

[pine ember]

Yep, and thats the problem

[nova pivot]

Can we make cool, historically accurate cosmetics? Yes, but the cosmetics and their system would need to be reworked.

[pine ember]

HLL wasnt designed to be casual or for people that dont care

[nova pivot]

But that's what T17 wants.

[pine ember]

Yep, thats what I have been saying the whole time

[pine ember]

Sadly yes, thats why many veterans quit

[nova pivot]

They want a game that makes money, not one that makes its players or themselves happy.

[pine ember]

And thats the whole problem

[dapper sparrow]

It's like Disney catering to non-Star Wars fans. It's just not conducive to revenue.

[wind shore]

So add Spanish it would be accurate

They were on the eastern front

[pine ember]

No

Better add something that actually has an impact for gameplay

[real parrot]

I can cope with the Panther going 22km/h and the uniforms not being a 1 to 1 copy of the exact same uniform used IRL, but at least make it so tank bullets can go through bushes and infantry don't magically dissapear after 500 meters

[wind shore]

I don't do it selectively like you

I’m all down for adding Polish, Spanish, etc

[pine ember]

Yep, if its believable its ok, but it shouldnt look out of place, and thats what the game sadly does

[pine ember]

🤦

[wind shore]

You say as subfaction

[nova pivot]

The white uniforms 💀

[wind shore]

But they simply could be added to current factions

Some of them, some of them not

[pine ember]

You havent even understood what I meant

[wind shore]

• it will not break any historical accuracy

If they still keep done it correct like now

Look at Polish driel uniforms, it’s 100% correct

[pine ember]

They dont do it correctly right now

[nova pivot]

Of course not, Spaniards in Normandy

[wind shore]

Why does this in correct

So we have eastern front

Wear it on the eastern front maps

[pine ember]

Yep, but if they add a British Normandy or Italy map, then it looks odd...

[real parrot]

I remember they try to implement map only uniforms and the community exploded

[pine ember]

No

[pine ember]

Because the approach was wrong

[nova pivot]

Because the system is wrong and it's too late to change.

[pine ember]

Paid uniforms should be wearable on all maps, but still be accurate

[nova pivot]

But most of the ones out there now are not correct on many maps.

They would have to make refunds

[wind shore]

We have Panzer Lehr uniform available on Eastern front map

[wind shore]

Yes why not

They served there

[dapper sparrow]

Just start with small patches that actually fix things. Move the "leave server" button AWAY from the "leave squad" (or whatever it is). Move the "XYZ joined your squad" message away from the "ZYX wants to join your sqaud". It's not rocket science ...

[wind shore]

Doesn’t matter on which location , simply it’s enough the front

[pine ember]

Because we dont need even more inaccurate uniforms

[wind shore]

It could be a lot of troops added which were on current maps why not

[pine ember]

No

[wind shore]

What do you suggest to add?

[pine ember]

Its inaccurate

[wind shore]

another uniform which looks the same

[pine ember]

Its simple, faction, loadout and uniform rework, bug fixes, QoL improvements and a new armor system

[dapper sparrow]

Remove the ability to everyone have a machine pistol. Make the anti tank a two man job. One has the bazooka, the other has the ordinance.

[pine ember]

The uniforms you suggest will also look the same...

[dapper sparrow]

... and for the love of God, taking a garrison down should NOT give you 150xp ...

[worthy charm]

True

It should give way more

[dapper sparrow]

nope, not without updating all scoring. for reference a heavy tank gets you 100 ...

... which means, as a recon tank, all you do is drive around taking down garrisons (in that case it's 100 points).

[worthy charm]

A heavy isnt close to as important as a garrision tho

[dapper sparrow]

you can rebuild a garry inside 10 seconds ...

[worthy charm]

Its a coin clip if youre unlucky you die there. Even if you wait out the spawn wave, you may still get sniped

[nova pivot]

Would you rather have a garry close defense or a heavy tank?

[wind shore]

Add captured PPSH for Normandy units

[dapper sparrow]

that's not the point.

[wind shore]

And old Gewehr

In COD WW2 it was like this captured PPSh

[dapper sparrow]

And HLL should differentiate itself from COD ...

[pine ember]

Why for Normandy though???

[pine ember]

No…

These things won’t make the Game better

[pine ember]

Yep

[teal cove]

That never happened, in my 50 hours of gameplay. I

[real parrot]

Thats bad

[teal cove]

Yes good community but why people here are encouraging me to forever quit the game?

[teal cove]

Thank you I'm just quitting.

[real parrot]

Youre welcome, be Happy

[teal cove]

Indeed. Also your are showing to be pretty toxic, using not friendly language, but really, i have soo much stuff to do, like enjoying my 3ds and code in c#

[slate canopy]

I have because I require it for a sniper... But in an infantry? Nah.

[real parrot]

Idk what friendly language is, I'm Spanish and we tend to be quit direct

[teal cove]

Well too late I already Uninstalled the game. Bye until... idk XXX months until I comeback to find the same s issue

[real parrot]

Maybe try other games that not require effective vc and extensive teammwork to be enjoyable

[teal cove]

Like r6? I I'm very good at it and yet I don't use vc

Well bye

[worthy charm]

Rainbow has vc?

god that has to be horrible

[teal cove]

Why? For toxic problems?

I never had any

[worthy charm]

Count youreself lucky

Its worse then lol in my experience when it comes to toxicity

[teal cove]

Bye! I probably chill at off topic mess hall

Bye guys

[slate canopy]

Most of the time R6 VC is fine... Occasionally sexist I deal with but not horrible.

[real parrot]

God I hate modern Rainbow six, and I loved the ps2 games

[slate canopy]

I also haven't played R6 in a while lol

[real parrot]

We are at least at 43 degrees here I'm dying rn

[worthy charm]

Understandable, we got it quite nice today

[harsh tinsel]

"I want to play the communication game but don't want to communicate"

"Hey guys, can I have a MOBA without objectives or enemies?"

[nova pivot]

Better give me a glass of water but don't put water in it

[harsh tinsel]

actually tilted sideways in my current match

getting camped and recons are in the middle of nowhere instead of clearing spawn

[steep mantle]

hi, is it possible to change fps on the fly?

[past vortex]

not sure what you mean by this

[cosmic pilot]

zoom in with optics

[empty steppe]

Get out 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[wind shore]

It was(

Maybe update reticles

[finite berry]

People are encouraging you to play the game correctly. If you refuse to play the game correctly, then you having to quit is your fault, not ours.

[desert owl]

There’s a command

[steep mantle]

-console doesn‘t work at me also to open console with ^ or ~

[desert owl]

My bad, I was thinking of another game.

Might be able to change refresh rate or fps in settings

Nvidia control panel and config files can manually change it

[finite berry]

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[cyan saddle]

one for the pot

[gentle lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/bath-honey-winnie-the-pooh-pooh-honey-bath-gif-17530539

[amber knoll]

have the devs ever said why they havent made the AT sights work properly? eg with zeroing, the panzershrek for example has no range marking, no zero, nothing, even though such a thing did exist and was used in thje war

they also seemed to be zeroed to immediately iun front of you? which is not the case irl

[wind shore]

Where did you get my photo

[empty steppe]

Would be nice

A pain to code though

[nova pivot]

I know I shouldn't say it because bfV isn't a good role model but... In bfV it could be done

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/exorcism-father-mulvehill-evil-z-is-for-zombies-get-out-evil-spirit-gif-16456440622392781314

But its better than anther S44 discussion. 😅

[wind shore]

S44 has maps

😅

[finite berry]

We can change that

[wind shore]

What do you think guys to balance it

Give tanks and weapons as DLC

Also captured weapons and tanks

[amber knoll]

Zeroing is literally as simple as having the rocket begin with an upward trajectory it’s very simple

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-mod-discord-hammer-gif-1643613714186266058

[finite berry]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-shut-up-costume-gif-12848670

[worthy charm]

That may look simple but im sure it isnt. The game is well known for its spaghetti code.

[worthy charm]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-why-you-little-gif-17376912

[amber knoll]

Dude they already have the projectile coded correctly, all they need to do is change the sight texture or have it fire slightly up, it’s not that hard

If the code they’d be adding it to is bad, that’s their problem

[pine ember]

Hard no

It wouldn’t balance anything and would make the game even worse

[wind shore]

Why not

[nova pivot]

I only see one solution to the game's situation: raid the T17 offices. I won't tire of saying it: we go in, check everything on the computers, and put whatever we want into the game. It's that easy

[wind shore]

If it could be new tanks it would be faster

[pine ember]

Because you don’t lock gameplay behind a paywall

And no things that give you an advantage

[wind shore]

It wouldn’t give an advantage simply cause it’s not a plane

[pine ember]

It would

[wintry thistle]

Lock Kingtiger behind 60$ DLC

[nova pivot]

I find no flaws in your logic.

[wind shore]

And lock it to accurate maps

If it would sells planes for example it would change much

[pine ember]

Dude… if they paid it should be usable everywhere

[wind shore]

If it’s tank it wouldn’t