mess-hall

[modest panther]

Yes

[prisma bramble]

Did they mention any update

I would expect it to be like mid summer for a new content update

Make another year from now even

[proven island]

So is hll crossplay or nah? Theres kinda different kind of information xd

^ between new gen consoles and pc

[worthy charm]

nope

and they arent doing it

[past veldt]

It's @heady hornet's birthday?

[crude heron]

I wish 😔

[covert elbow]

The hell happened here?

[worthy charm]

I sold drugs to minors

[red stump]

i didn't think they made pervitin anymore

[covert elbow]

Can I have some?

[slate canopy]

Is it NEEDED? no, since there are pings you can do (although the squad lead/officer has more ping options than infantry) but it's VERY beneficial and helpful.

[naive lake]

got it

ty

[serene jackal]

Any word of a sequel to HLL? Or nah?

[thorny acorn]

no?

[slate canopy]

They just teased the map in November, and usually it's about 5-6 months from initial tease pictures (although this was a video, which is usually 3-4 months out from release). No PTE yet, that I know of, but that'd be the next step before full release. Gotta make sure no major bugs with people playing it 🧐

I hope PTE soon 🙏

[covert elbow]

No???

[charred seal]

Why would they make a sequel?

[thorny acorn]

what map

[slate canopy]

Tobruk. #telegrams message

[next wing]

is FPS drops while zoomed in on scopes/turrets etc normal?

[slate canopy]

Turn down foliage and shadow quality. Sometimes that effects it. This may help: https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1271341876569575505

[serene jackal]

Why not? Would be cool to see their take in a different era

[azure quail]

is crossplay unavailable between xbox and epic games

[slate canopy]

No cross platform. PC plays with PC (Epic, Steam, PC Gamepass), Console plays with Console (Xbox and Playstation)

[azure quail]

oh

[worthy charm]

Only if you are a minor and im surr you arent.

xD

[covert elbow]

You don’t know that

I could be

[worthy charm]

I could say so much but i rather dont

[spring eagle]

need to see there take on suicide bombers, as if this game doesn't give me ptsd

💀

[tall kettle]

❕** STEAM MAINTENANCE NOW ENDING** ❕
Tuesdays 3PM-6PM PDT
Tuesdays 6PM-9PM EST
Tuesdays 10PM-3AM GMT
Wednesdays 8AM-11AM AEST

Steam maintenance has now ended but some issues may still remain until a game restart

• EAC Notifications
• False Bans
• No Servers Showing
• Player Level Resets

[azure sky]

Cadê os brasileiros?

[civic dune]

Heaven Held Tight 🤪

[visual niche]

That's a good one

[tidal zenith]

Hello

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THE I CANT HEAR ANYBODY AT ALL WITHIN THE GAME????? VOICE CHAT DOES NOT WORK AT ALL WHATSOEVER ON UNIT OR PROXIMITY CHANNEL. UES I AM HOLDING LB. I TRIED PLAYING THIS A YEAR AGO AND HAD THE EXACT SAME ISSUE

[slate canopy]

No need to yell. 😦 My ears hurt now.

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1281049689751552051 You can read through this to find possible solutions.

[tidal zenith]

I’ve already tried everything that can possibly be done. This game is hopeless.

[slate canopy]

Are you sure you did?

If you tried everything, you would have been able to get it to work. Read the last comment in that link.

[tidal zenith]

Ok but theres nothing on this list I havent tried, including the whitelisting

Ok i hadnt tried that last thing

wish me luck, thank you

trying now

[tidal zenith]

well i can hear ppl now but they cant hear me

[slate canopy]

That's a start. Maybe a simple disconnect/connect in VOIP or your headset?

[dark agate]

You know…

I’m the president so I might never vote

[wind shore]

I have seen Donald Trump , lol, in real

[spring tulip]

Is there a channel dedicated to possible things the devs may want to add from the community?

[visual niche]

https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1098158460463480842?

[storm stratus]

Why doesn’t the arty turn enough to hit positions on the side of the map. Time and time again tanks and POI are to far left or right to even reach. This is most POI’s that spawn on the edges of the map.

[midnight nacelle]

You can rotate further in the loading position.

[umbral latch]

In the Gunner's seat you are limited by a rough approximation of the gun's maximum traverse.

In the loader's seat you can rotate the whole thing.

[storm stratus]

What. The. I’m learning more and more.

Another thing. I noticed 1 of the factions the Half track turret can do a full 360. Some other one i tried you couldn’t i think it only was about 90 degrees

[visual niche]

Sometimes if you are stuck on terrain when turning it, moving the gun up or down in elevation can "unstuck it"

For AT guns mainly

[glossy sand]

Don’t really understand why in offense if you cap 3 points and not get the rest it’s defeat? Like that doesn’t even make sense

[storm stratus]

Because defence Won. They were able to hold you off. You get 5 battle grounds to sort it out. Defence can only hold. Which they did. So they win.

Warefare is 5 zones. The one with the most zones at the end of the timer wins.

[glossy sand]

Well regardless, won’t be playing that mode again

Waste of time compared to warfare

[storm stratus]

Sorry thats pretty laughable. Its not Harder for either. Both defence and attack are pretty fair. It will come down to Map and Players skill balance. Makes for an epic experience. But each to there own 😂

[glossy sand]

How is it laughable? And not gonna argue with ya haha

[analog apex]

Both defence and attack are pretty fair.
Depends on the selected objectives.

many 1st ones are even impossible to get to, to defend in the 1st palce at all

because the attackers are spawning right at their doorstep, while the defenders are spawning a minute+ away

[storm stratus]

First one doesn’t really matter. But i have seen and been on defence wins on the first sector.

[analog apex]

oh it very well does matter. In ones where the defenders are able to get to it, they get much more time to prepare defenses on the other objectives for instance.

haven't you noticed that it removes 1/5th of the match away right away?

[storm stratus]

Buys time for sector 2 to build up defence. Defenders tanks are still an entire map away aswell. Its just how it is. But later. The attackers tanks are a whole map away.

[glossy sand]

Just not fun to push like 3 points and sweep them all then like flicking a switch they magically defend the 4th?

[storm stratus]

Yeh. Engineers and good commanders will run supplies to defence 4 and 5 building it up before you arrive. Happens all the time

[glossy sand]

Exactly, I’ll play warfare. More tactics

[storm stratus]

Actually same thing as warefare. You attack and defend a point. Others are locked except the defending team can still attack aswell.

[analog apex]

anyway, OFFENSIVE is very badly designed gamemode because of those 1st points - if the defenders get there 1st (where they spawn closer), they usually hold the attackers for the rest of the 1st 30 minutes.

The defenders should spawn right in that 1st circle, but there should be some logical mechanics to make sure the defenders won't be able to be there indefinitely. (the initial garrisons should self-destruct after the 1st 2 minutes or so, for example to start with)

[storm stratus]

They only spawn closer if they set up garrys. They can do that in Offence attack on any point and Warefare defence and attack all over the map.

Maybe a default garry for defenders in the first circle. Would fix your issue. But won’t fix the other guys issue because he can’t break a defence. So one is wanting a better defence the other wants a weaker defence.

[analog apex]

or we can have both - add tickets for the defenders so apart of the time, they also need to avoid dying too much
losing the tickets would make the defenders to lose garrisons in that objective's sector line and be forced to fall back

...for example.

because currently in HLL, the defenders in OFFENSIVE once they dug in, often they hold the point despite they may be dying a lot - and that's both bad and illogical. It's especially a problem at the 1st points to which the defenders can get before the attackers do.

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-chat-cat-fall-hello-chat-cat-gif-24961178

Who we fighting with today

[covert elbow]

Oho you are the one to approach me max?

[storm stratus]

That sounds like total aids. Sounds like you lost 1 attacking game and now can’t see past that. If you want attackers to have a handy cap. Then attackers will win more then they should. At the moment i see defence and attacks both happen. And it all comes down to skill and team work.

[analog apex]

you are talking to me? 😄

I have won countless attacks and defences

and I see what's wrong in there, you obviously don't

[visual niche]

Big if true 🤔

[covert elbow]

Ah it’s you I see

They should absolutely make it so defenders have a ticket cap per sector for spawns to make attacking actually achievable

[visual niche]

Sometimes people enjoy game modes differently than others

[storm stratus]

Its achievable. Thats what i don’t understand. Some maps tho are stupid where you got no cover to push. But most are just fine.

[analog apex]

you have to admit that usually at the points where the defenders get to first, the attackers get rekt without any chance as they get being spawncamped on their 1st (and only) HQ.

**The ticket system could be there just for the 1st point **for the defenders - the defenders would be able to spawn right in it, and the 1st point would get uniformly same chances across all the maps/objective layouts for the attackers.

Any gamemode in any game in general should play the same. But with the initial def garrisons far from the 1st objective or too close to it, this varies a lot in HLL. Therefore, it is objectively a bad gamemode design no matter what anybody else says.

[covert elbow]

They also need to make objectives match the terrain and get rid of the circle’s they currently have

[visual niche]

Sam would you rather a) attack West Bend as US, or b) attack North Pass as US?

[analog apex]

hmmm, good question

[visual niche]

Both not the most desirable 😅

[analog apex]

I guess the North pass

[visual niche]

Yeah that's what I would choose too

[analog apex]

because there is cover at least

ah, right as US ok nvm... there's cover in both cases

[visual niche]

Just not a lot of room to work with

[analog apex]

but since Westbend circle is further, then the answer still remains the same

that's a bad game design also btw. xD

a circle should be in the middle of a sector, or there should be more circles or there should be sectors of shapes that would follow the cover/topography

HLL shape-squared sector is the worst possible solution - put the strongpoint anywhere to one or other side of it, and then it automatically favours one or the other side, just because the game says so, and not decided by the cover or topography

[visual niche]

Yeah if you see West Bend pop up as the next objective for Offensive as US... sorry 😅

[covert elbow]

Which west bend?

[analog apex]

yep, especially the problem amplifies with the garrison placement rules in relation to forcing to have only redzone garrisons, to attack such circle

[glossy sand]

You sound like aids

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-out-relax-be-calm-easy-take-it-easy-gif-11523088357011122683

[analog apex]

I have always considered the square-shaped sectors just as a temporary system that was to be overhauled. But sadly, we got stuck with it for good.

[covert elbow]

So like the rest of the game

[analog apex]

yep - the same like the loadout and progression system for another examples

[covert elbow]

This game just feels like it’s early access still

[visual niche]

Think foy

[covert elbow]

Ah

Yea that’s pain

[visual niche]

Western side

[glossy sand]

He got all bent out of shape because I made an opinion

[covert elbow]

And gunplay, tanks, vehicles, movement, spawn systems, nodes…

I could go on

[analog apex]

and the devs could easily have put the circle into the middle of that (Westbend) sector (to the road between the enterable barn and the ruined house)

[covert elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/jar-jar-binks-how-rude-rude-star-wars-pissed-gif-17565387

[glossy sand]

I have won and lost several offense bro…relax, you’re taking it way farther than it is has to be

[visual niche]

If you need a mod, give us a shout. Just be civil and 😎 is all

😎 = cool

[glossy sand]

Yeah let me delete that message I apologize

[visual niche]

You're good!

[glossy sand]

Yes you’re correct🫡

[analog apex]

not the same either

since in WARFARE the whole sector is capturable

so in OFFENSIVE, it usually very well depends on where the circle is

[storm stratus]

Might be just a skill issue then.

[storm stratus]

I was going to mention this. But didn’t see a point.

[glossy sand]

You need to chill bro

[storm stratus]

I’m chill as. I don’t have an issue with the game mode. I’d rather there be no handy caps or additional rules.

[glossy sand]

Ok you made your point? If you’re chill, great

[analog apex]

Also, if one needs skill to accommodate for a badly designed gamemode, then it's a stupid skill that shouldn't be even necessary. If the gamemode doesn't play the same (I mean in gamemode-tech terms). The only thing that should influence the difficulty of the objective for def/off should be the terrain and cover, not something done by the game (like the positions of initial garrisons).

Bottom line: I am not saying it's easy or hard, I am saying it's just bad/wrong.

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/tropic-thunder-gif-27658010

So chill in here

[stiff crystal]

#pc-divisions-recruitment

[storm stratus]

Attackers would just go for kills and not the objective. The objective would just be given to them once they hit that ticket count. And so on.

[real parrot]

Offensive in Omaha as attacker gave me PTSD

[visual niche]

This is the way

[storm stratus]

Imagine how the real soldier felt. Gotta have them feels

[analog apex]

I wouldn't have any problem with it if the ticket system would work like that for the 1st point only. Because it would be definitely better than the current system. Also ,ever heard of medics?

[real parrot]

Solution would be letting respawn the defendants right away and making the attackers wait the 90 seconds, thats it

[storm stratus]

I think first point needs a default garry. But attackers would just get stuck in HQ for 30 minutes. 🙃

[storm stratus]

Infact you know what. I have heard of medics. I think i seen one the other day. 30 metres away touching himself.

[analog apex]

It's just the 1st point that is most stupid, so that's why having the ticket system just for the 1st point for the defenders, would unify the difficulty and make it the same fair across all the maps/layouts.

[glossy sand]

Judging by your comments, he probably didn’t wanna revive you 🤣

[visual niche]

Sam, when referencing the smaller grid squares, do you use the left or right one? (Ive always used left myself, but now I'm paranoid lol) #new-recruit-barracks message

[storm stratus]

Bit rare to find a good medic in this game. But if you think that. Thats even funnier.

[analog apex]

huh? what do you mean by left or right?

[real parrot]

Usually I use the first one, but we rarely use it anyway

[visual niche]

The Console one or the PC one in the picture

[analog apex]

aah right I see

[analog apex]

yes I see, doesn't matter there, does it?

same square

[glossy sand]

You’re probably a menace in blueberry chat 😜

[visual niche]

But to narrow down a specific square inside of the 200m grid square

For verbal callouts

[real parrot]

It does matter, A3-7 is not the same in diferents codes

[analog apex]

I usually say soemthing in a way "bottom left of B4" or whatever

I don't use nor keypads nor numpads, because it is confusing - it's not guaranteed that everybody perceives it the same

[visual niche]

Alright sweet, making sure I wasn't giving bad callouts for the past 4 years lol

[real parrot]

Most precise system I use is "I'm on top of it"

[visual niche]

Ride an enemy tank and become a live marker 😉

[real parrot]

or get under a Tiger with a Stuart

[visual niche]

Is that how halftracks are born?

Don't answer that

[real parrot]

Maybe

[analog apex]

Back to the OFF topic - in the OFFENSIVE today, in most cases we have just 2 options right now:

• keeping the 1st point because the defenders get there 1st and ensure 30m of pain for the attackers
  or
• losing the 1st objective when the attackers get there 1st and there is no fight for it whatsoever as the defenders are still far away by the time it gets capped

Then ofc, I would be down for all these:

• defenders spawning right in the 1st def-point
• defensive initial garrison to self-destruct after the first 2 minutes
• ticket system for the defenders for the 1st point only

Idk about you, but I find both of the current options terrible. Because they are objectively worse. Almost anything would be better than that. About the medics - they have much better chance to revive the defenders in cover (and save some tickets), than the attackers who can die in the open while trying to get there.

[storm stratus]

I guess you’ll never know. Probably wouldn’t even reach the POI on PC 😂

[visual niche]

Ya'll should just 1v1 with flare guns, first to 3 kills and then become best friends after

[glossy sand]

Guess not because I play on PS5🤣

[storm stratus]

Sounds glorious.

[storm stratus]

I know 😂

[visual niche]

Ahh, maybe one day 🥺 👉 👈

[glossy sand]

I ain’t spending 3k on a computer to play a game that looks like 2012 haha

Now maybe other games? Yes because PC has some of the best graphics ever

[visual niche]

That's fair

[storm stratus]

So glad ive been on PC for 16 years. Never had to worry about $3000 for 1 game. It was an investment to play every game i own forever the better option.

[glossy sand]

Did yall see that black myth Wukong at CES? Life like wasn’t that word for that graphics card

[visual niche]

I left it alone for a reason 😅

Tbf, I thought games 20 years ago was the best that graphics are gonna get

[analog apex]

Far Cry 1

the graphical revolution xD

[visual niche]

so realistic!

[glossy sand]

Medal of Honor on PS1?

We was like wowwwwww

[visual niche]

I had it on PSP, and I thought I was literally in WW2

[analog apex]

and now they look like crap in comparison

[visual niche]

Aged like milk haha

[analog apex]

thang God for the remasters or remakes

looking forward to Gothic 1 Remake

[visual niche]

Yeah, most have great stories, and writing regardless

[analog apex]

exactly, the old games felt much more original and better written than the current modern games

[real parrot]

First time I played a game with "good graphics" I jumped from PS2 to PS4 with Killzone Shadow fall and I was like "this is real and we live in a simulation"

[glossy sand]

PC ain’t inferior bruh 🤣 Don’t even go there, most of the games has to be ported to even be played

[visual niche]

The $3k part

But honestly I wouldn't be surprised by how the PC market is heading

[real parrot]

I spent 1k for a medium-high end PC 4 years ago and was worth

[glossy sand]

Oh yeah I’ve seen some rigs, 3k is like a starting point haha

[visual niche]

Yeah that's not good

[glossy sand]

I mean if you want that extra performance and got the cash

[visual niche]

After covid, everything got super expensive and never went back down

[analog apex]

about that... RTX 5090 incoming

[visual niche]

No SLI

[glossy sand]

Price?

[real parrot]

your soul

[analog apex]

around 2500€

[glossy sand]

Whewwwww

Is that the one at CES?

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/nvidia-graphics-card-gif-15030686106937744416

You can tell ray tracing was [ON] in that gif

[glossy sand]

Haha will need an extra desk just for card!

[visual niche]

My next build is just gonna be the Steamdeck 2 at this point lol

[analog apex]

yes

I wonder how much the RTX 6090 will cost... may get even more expensive.

Which is why I have been thinking about upgrading now rather than later. I expect it to go even worse in that regard, in the upcoming years.

[visual niche]

At least EU has 220V wall outlets 😅

[visual niche]

I think competition from ARM & APU's will help with pricing in the future, but we shall see

[analog apex]

maybe for the mid-range, but the top Nvidia cards will likely keep its #1 rank by far

[visual niche]

Definitely

Regardless, more competition = good for us

[analog apex]

definitely

[real parrot]

Anyways the price will go up for sure due to inflation

[analog apex]

yeah exactly what I am afraid of

+the complexity of the manufacture

but I would love to test HLL on RTX 5090 and see the impact... although I am quite sure the micro stutters will be there regardless

[visual niche]

An open source GPU came out last year that can run Quake at 720p @ 60FPS 😱

[analog apex]

FuryGPU?

[visual niche]

Doubt dx11 would even know how to utilize any of it's benefits, and UE 4.25 doesn't support DLSS so rip

[analog apex]

but at least allows to play in 4K and record as well

[visual niche]

That's fair

[analog apex]

better suited for 4K than the predecessors

[visual niche]

VRAM for days

[analog apex]

or for years heh

there hasn't been any gaming GPU that had 32GB of VRAM ever so far

[visual niche]

Nvidia was stuck on 8GB for a while there, it was kind of concerning haha

[analog apex]

3090 and 4090 had 24, now we got to 32... seems like a good run. 40GB next time maybe xD

but for the gamers 32 is far more than enough

[visual niche]

Clown probably already has 2 5090's and 256GB of RAM 😒

[analog apex]

2... omg

that PC gotta be a monster beast

HLL still stuttering? xD

[visual niche]

I wouldn't be surprised if you see a screenshot in tech solutions for some nvidia setting and you see a 5090 listed 😄

[visual niche]

According to him, he's perfectly fine on a 4090 and 128GB of RAM

(for his main system)

The backup one is just as impressive lol

[analog apex]

I wish we had known the reason of those stutterings... because no matter if I tried at clean installation or another 2 PCs, it was all the same.

[visual niche]

I envy console sometimes because it's very black and white for troubleshooting

There isn't a million other possible variables

[analog apex]

my tests had in common that they used Intel CPUs and NVidia GPUs, but both had enough of RAM and HLL installed on SSDs

[visual niche]

Somethings are just not optimized as well as they should be in general so, that is out of the user's control

[analog apex]

sadly

[visual niche]

CPU's with higher single core performance is key

[analog apex]

I wish the devs seen it the same way and did something about it.

[visual niche]

Or the x3D's

I think a lot of that is having to process the network data from the server, and not make the GPU wait around for instructions on how to render it's next frame

(but I'm not an expert, so I'm probably wrong)

[analog apex]

I have i9-10900K on my PC currently, the other 2 PCs I tested HLL with, one of them was i7 either 11700K or 12700K (I can't remember honestly anymore) and the other was i5-10500K.

I believe it's due to CPU as it is the most probable way imo.

[visual niche]

Well the CPU pretty much tells everything else what to do and takes in/helps transmit the network data

[analog apex]

yeah but anyway, it's up to the devs and it should have worked on any one of them

[visual niche]

I have long dreamed of a 4.25>4.27 engine update 🥺

[analog apex]

yeah an engine upgrade is always beneficial

but I wouldn't use DLSS... I want no fake resolutions or details

at least not in a multiplayer game

[visual niche]

Fair enough I can see that

Maybe for the 🥔 out there it might be a welcome boost

[analog apex]

yep, I can't disagree about that

it's a matter of preference... in a MP game I would rather endure lower FPS than seeing a fake stuff

but surely there are peeps that use it out of principle

[visual niche]

I built a PC yesterday in between the min and rec system specs (on an HDD), and besides the load times, Hill 400 was playable (on medium settings) lol

Then I got annoyed at windows, so I turned it off

(technically the CPU didn't even fall into the minimum specs because it was an older gen i7 than the i5 listed)

[storm stratus]

You wanna SLI a 5090? Thedafq

I’ll just stick to my RTX3080. Plenty good enough for every game out to date.

[visual niche]

Probably a safety hazard you're right

[storm stratus]

Gunna need 3phase to run it

[analog reef]

hello!

[foggy rover]

hihi

[mortal anchor]

is there a universal fix for the cant get past press any button screen?

searched it up but fixes did not work

[arctic rampart]

T17 support ticket

[visual niche]

Issues with a "universal fix" will usually get patched and fixed, so not really other than https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1324513094055231569 & a support ticket as Solid mentioned https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1242767547321942036

[analog apex]

About that... do we have any ETA on the patch? It's been quite some time ever since U16 and the game still keeps picking our mic on voice activation at the match start. And we have kept seeing the EPIC people complaining about not being able to get into the main menu for quite some time too...

It's about to be a full month, in case of U16 even more, with (not just) these problems while the devs haven't seemed to move a finger or at least haven't let us know in any way.

[arctic rampart]

Xbox players voice is dropping out cause of devices suuper frequently as well

[past veldt]

It's supposed to come this afternoon

Not a joke for once

[analog apex]

yeah man, I "believe" you 😄

[visual niche]

Good one 😂

[past veldt]

GUYS

Greg said it 😞

[analog apex]

no, more like you said that Greg said it

[past veldt]

When I'm proved right 😠

[visual niche]

Who's Greg..?

[past veldt]

Our lord and Saviour

[arctic rampart]

You know it's bad when even dev words can't be trusted

[visual niche]

@ Greg

[past veldt]

If the patch comes today can I get gif privileges

[visual niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-star-succession-gif-27712928

[past veldt]

[cyan saddle]

You're a funny guy crit

There obviously isn't any patch this afternoon

[past veldt]

[novel geyser]

Patch in 0.0005 seconds

[past veldt]

Only Greg can save me from this embarrassment

[thin scarab]

Pacific when?

[midnight nacelle]

🦘

[wind shore]

Roadmap will drop tomorrow

[pine ember]

We will see

[analog apex]

roadmap will drop yesterday

[pine ember]

If there is one US vs Germany map on it I will quit

[arctic rampart]

No you won't

[analog apex]

none of us will 😄

[past veldt]

Sam has quit 14 times already

He's the expert on this matter

[analog apex]

nah, not more than 4

and actually it can be just 2, the rest was just trying to get the devs' attention to start a discussion about problems and acknowledge them but I didn't rly leave

[smoky prism]

holy crap, getting a kill in this game feels so satisfying ngl

[wind shore]

No no no, 12 or 13 US vs GER maps, 1 more will be duplicate of existed maps

3 Soviet maps , and 3 British maps ( including Tobruk )

they can do 1 Brit ( Tobruk and 1 Eastern front map ) maybe

[silent marten]

New ish player here, do the guns have bullet drop and travel time?

[wind shore]

different ballistic as i know exactly

[silent marten]

But like do I have to lead my shot if someone is running at like 200m

Or just aim straight at them

[shy roost]

Dude get in a game and you’ll answer that instantly

[silent marten]

Was playing last night and couldn't tell

[shy roost]

Lead the shot

[silent marten]

I play dayz and arma so I'm used to it but I just couldn't tell it felt so hit scan

Alright cool thanks

[pine ember]

Thats what I said...

[cyan saddle]

Unless you're shooting at 100+ meters it's practically unnoticeable

[silent marten]

Thanks

[robust bear]

You'll have to lead a little...sure.

[raw sequoia]

why does this game keep resetting my goddam settings

[robust bear]

How are you leaving the game/ switching off your computer ?

[raw sequoia]

alt f4

cus it crashed so had no choice

[robust bear]

If you just switch your rig off, without shutting down the game first....you'll loose all saved configs ....uniform stuff.....not your rank

[robust bear]

Well thats why.

[solar crow]

How do I run the game through dx12 with epic games?

The game is so laggy now

[lucid estuary]

Whats a good class/role to start out with when learning the game?

[solar crow]

Support is pretty good, you'll be of great help to your SL and ur whole team cause u can drop down supplies for ur SL to build garrisons

[lucid estuary]

Any other one? Engineer I think someone said too. Is that useful?

[wind shore]

Anti tank is really useful

I like getting behind enemy lines and blowing up tanks

Don’t get much ammo tho

[lucid estuary]

I know snipers get scopes and such but other classes/roles dont, right? I do find the iron sights make it a bit hard to see enemies

[solar crow]

very useful, you get a lot of XP for building nodes for your team. Just ask the commander for a supply truck and drop ur supplies just when it reaches the second sector (u can't drop at first sector). Then build ur nodes at first sector

[wind shore]

Sniper is the only class with scopes but some class do get binoculars

[lucid estuary]

Alright, ill test for support this round and see how it goes. Cheers for the info

[robust bear]

Support...all the time, learn 80% just sticking to support 👌

[dull lily]

Patch in 8 mins?

[robust bear]

I dont think so....what makes you say that ?

[dull lily]

https://i.imgur.com/GoTVzab.png

Was in our clan discord

[robust bear]

Theres nothing here in discord, usually in telegram.

[dull lily]

I did think that

[past veldt]

There is a new server build live

Server build is always released a little earlier than the client build

[analog apex]

I'll be damned, you were telling the truth xD

[past veldt]

It actually wasn't a joke 😂

I just declined to tell you that it was in the server owner discord

Probably a post coming in one minute

Could be a nice time to announce a new Community manager too

Ah boring patch

[thorn falcon]

where's tobruk??? early 2025 was promised

[chrome sluice]

Yo, any optimization update soon? 🤣

[lost pulsar]

In the works

[fossil igloo]

Yo

Hi greg

[thorn falcon]

that should probably be one of the highest priorities. some dlss or something

[wild wedge]

Skirmish maps on official servers cause huge player count drop, could you please give it less common or eradicate it completely?

[past veldt]

(don't play official servers)

[night lark]

Cant wait to see the roadmap for 2025

[wind shore]

Are we going to have something involving the Japanese?

[neat urchin]

@lost pulsar we in territory?

[wind shore]

Soviet vs Japanese in Mongolia?

[lethal moss]

Untested update 16???? I forsee an untested Shizz Show.

[wild wedge]

[tardy thicket]

Add the ability to fly planes

[orchid vault]

It’s still January…

[night lark]

Webbing matched to weapons when?

[lost pulsar]

Public Testing for Tobruk should hopefully kick off next month

[wind shore]

Battle of Berlin?

[thorn falcon]

woohoo, thats good. left in the dark way too long 😂

[stone mica]

Why doesn’t pc have a member recruitment page but console does

[gusty lichen]

ew no, glad this won't happen

[cerulean kite]

yes please

[brisk hill]

Why are there so few offical lobbys with battle of remagen?

[cerulean kite]

and please steam version optimisation when?

[night lark]

Tobruk is going to be cool. Bit of the.war that barely gets attention in the americansphere

[stone mica]

Never gonna happen

[thorny acorn]

there is lots of the war that doesn't get that much attention

[wind shore]

Anything with Berlin, Seelow Heights

Italy too

Italy especially

[night lark]

Quite a shame. Id love an early war dunkirk or anything italy a well. Or Crete. When S44 brought out a crete map and greek faction is was so fun

[robust bear]

Most communities dont run the map so often due to the limitations of the map.

[gusty lichen]

Tobruk will expose how terrible the unnecessary desert german faction is lol

[thorny acorn]

or go little north to Balkans, there were lots of fighting on that soil

[lost pulsar]

He's still settling in but will be introduced shortly 🙂

[night lark]

Yeah Greeks vs Italians in the mountains would be fun

[thorny acorn]

greeks 😭

[night lark]

Nah man i like the Africa Corps and dont see them are unnecessary

[thorny acorn]

i was thinking of Yougoslavia but sure

[wind shore]

glad to hear xbox servers are cooked

[worthy charm]

Now its getting to wyld

[cosmic pilot]

He's amongus? 👀

[cerulean kite]

Really wished the dev team would focus on polishing existing maps and features and perhaps quality of life details, and we really badly need an optimisation patch for Steam when it comes down to server browser session searching

[past veldt]

Good news 🙂 Look forward to it!

[tardy thicket]

Your tweaking it would be great

[night lark]

Meh, you could do.it but i begruge the actual yugos for capping themselves trying to defend the borders and not the mountains

[past veldt]

@visual niche I'll take my gif perms now

[lucid tusk]

Wombat2.0 coming in hot (no one can ever replace you wombat)

[lost pulsar]

His current task is to play Hell Let Loose

[wind shore]

anyone else on xbox facing problems with game chat? only person i can hear is the commander and i cant speak to him neither can other officers

[worthy charm]

Oha

[wind shore]

now its giving error trying to load into a match

[past veldt]

Want to get him into a comp event or match?

[night lark]

Do they have a mic 😂

[tardy thicket]

💔🤧😡

[gusty lichen]

The brits have far better weapon diversity in comparison. The afrika corps are the only faction in the game with the stupid weapon restrictions, no other faction is held to the same standards 😂

[tardy thicket]

You’re a good boy right

[little mesa]

where can i see the update patches? steam?? or here

[worthy charm]

Both

[lost pulsar]

I've shared them in #telegrams as it's a small patch

[gusty lichen]

yes im a good boy:3

[little mesa]

what's the channeel here

[little mesa]

ahh ya thanks greg

[lost pulsar]

Please keep an eye on that channel for any updates

[night lark]

British weapons reallly didn have that much variety though. 99% of the time it was 8 SMLEs, 1 Bren, and 1 Sten per rifle section.

By contract late war germany could have An STG company, MG34/42, several.flavours of mauser rifle etc.

They didnt have that.variety in North Africa though. The limitations make sense concidering the history.

[dull sage]

hey guys \o ~newbie here (~45lvl or so) , i've pretty much understood the pace/flow/point of the game, trying to get into enginner/node thingie since its the only thing i dont get (watched a video now i got it ).

My question is, how do u coordinate with other engineeers at the start of the match where u gonna build nodes (which hq) and who is gonna drop the resources for it ?

[lucid tusk]

The DAK could definitely use some more weapon diversity, ZB vz 26, italian weapons, the gewehr 41

[night lark]

Dont need coordination at the start of a public game. First thrre engineers to build nodes win i guess. Just dont build.your nodes ontop of another set

[little mesa]

HLL should add a paratrooper animation for the airhead ability :p idk just sayin

[worthy charm]

#1256996893045821632

[narrow river]

6 months internal roadmap discussion now. I sure do hope there are some bangers to be announced.

[fringe plume]

Aww yes getting mowed by a mg in the air 😂

[gusty lichen]

I'm talking about in the game, not reality. Brits have plenty of options while the korps are held to a historical standard no other faction is held to, and it makes the game unbalanced and unfair

[little mesa]

Absolute poggers!

[arctic rampart]

Like the pacific

[candid oxide]

So you're poaching devs now?

[civic dune]

anyone else love that theres fun games that aren't skill intensive like Hell Let Loose? i wouldnt be playing high skill shooters at this point but Hell Let Loose lets me feel useful even if im not th e best shot or havent got the best reaction time 😌

[past veldt]

Need that inside knowledge of the game updates yknow?

[narrow river]

Maybe, more likely then mechanic reworks. (Probably, all my guesses were wrong)

[worthy charm]

🎌

[woven quest]

ROAD MAP WHEN

[gusty lichen]

Hopefully we get new guns for various factions soon, it would be nice

[night lark]

The brits have like two different Bolt actions that function more or less the same and some hi capacity thompsons i think? Where as germany gets better machine guns and the MG42 which they shouldnt have.

[worthy charm]

So you got the roadmap as well?

[past veldt]

Every time someone asks for the roadmap, Greg pushes back the release day by 1

[lost pulsar]

There's a lot of presenting/approval rounds to go through. Takes time.

[past veldt]

Oh yeah, Greg leaked it to me over a pint recently

[worthy charm]

Are you the new CM?

[past veldt]

(legally, he didn't)

[worthy charm]

xD

[wintry thistle]

Greg please save me

[fringe plume]

Damn NDAs and all that 🙄

[woven quest]

Greg ban this guy

[wind shore]

@lost pulsar any plans for a Vietnam HLL?

[gentle lintel]

if greg doesn't respond, it's a yes

[lucid tusk]

God no, keep it ww2

[wintry thistle]

^

[wind shore]

Like a separate game with the same mechanics

[gusty lichen]

sten mkv is incredibly good too. Taking away the single good thing the Germans have is an absurdly bad opinion, just proving my point that they are held to a stupid standard no other faction is held to

[worthy charm]

So they are doing everything in the suggestion channel?😂

[night lark]

Could do australians in borneo for this instead

[wintry thistle]

Pacific…

[lucid tusk]

That does nothing but take away assets from hell let loose 2: WW2: 2

[worthy charm]

That they should never do

[night lark]

You mean the standard "if it wasnt in service in 1942 is shouldnt be there?"

[wind shore]

Team 17 should expand imo

[worthy charm]

Just because Solid spams it

[past veldt]

My sources tell me that it's actually Hell Let Loose 2: Let Looser

[wind shore]

There’s a lot of potential for these kinds of games

[candid prairie]

Is there a new update for the game?

[gusty lichen]

no other factions are held to this standard, so yes it's a stupid opinion. Sacrifices have to be made for gameplay and budget reasons

[wind shore]

Iraq War game?

[past veldt]

That's Hell Let Loose 7

[fringe plume]

I thought it was Locking Hell Up 2???

[wind shore]

Fingers crossed

[steady vessel]

On the server side this morning yeah. Doesn't look like the update broke anything.... yet

[nocturne sky]

i havent gotten a steam update yet

[thorny acorn]

balkan wars in hell let loose 8.5??

and can u do war crimes in it?

[past veldt]

War Crimes will be a DLC

[candid prairie]

He took me out of the game for an update

[night lark]

Most faction are though? I dont think there are No.4 MKI* in the north african british loadout and PPS43s dont show up in soviet service either so idk what youre crying about unless you just want the STG44

[wind shore]

WW1 hell let loose style game?

[thorny acorn]

that would be cool, but bf1 is the king of ww1

[gusty lichen]

Oh wow the brits lose a bolt action weapon, definitely a catastrophic loss

[wind shore]

True but not very realistic

[thorny acorn]

😔

[sly flicker]

Hii

[night lark]

And the germans lose a weapon system that didnt even exist? Big whoop

[candid prairie]

I am looking for an Arab team. Can someone help me?

[sly flicker]

ASSALAM ALAIKUM

[lucid tusk]

Ww1 games that aren't overly arcadey don't survive

[candid prairie]

alekum slam

[thorny acorn]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[main cloak]

Are servers down or...?

[sly flicker]

Dm me

[thorny acorn]

yea but its hella fun

[wind shore]

Alaikum Salam

[wind shore]

Indeed

[candid prairie]

you arabc?

[sly flicker]

Your on console? 😔

[sly flicker]

La. But I am upon the Aqeedah of Islam Alhumdulilah. We have Muslims from all over the world in our unit.

[candid prairie]

I actually learned English well while playing this game because there was no Arab team

[wind shore]

No

[sly flicker]

Akhi we can help you InshAllah

[candid prairie]

welcome

[wind shore]

Spent some time in that part of the world though

[wind shore]

I’m on console

[cerulean kite]

Why do I have to reinstall 44gb just because of an epic games store update bruh

[sly flicker]

Two brothers seperated by division 💔

[wind shore]

Sadly

[thorny acorn]

steam peak updating

[candid prairie]

I hate epic store

[wind shore]

Looking for people to play with

[gusty lichen]

big whoop because it unbalances it in favor of the Brits. They gained good options while the Germans lost good and necessary options with no replacements. Surely you shouldn't have to do much thinking to understand why that's a problem from a gameplay balance standpoint

[solar anvil]

why is voip only for the same team, would be pretty cool if the other team could hear me

[thorny acorn]

true

trash talking the enemies while fighting

[gusty lichen]

don't need more toxicity during gameplay lol

[night lark]

Concidering germany won nearly all matches pre weapona rebalance and now its pretty balanced and closer to reality, no i dont see the problem with not having STG44s in 1942 and having the factions pretty evenly matched. Means the teams actually need try and play the game to win which is more enjoyable that a 15 minute kerb stomp

Cross team VOIP is in Squad and honestly its just not super relevant to gameplay

[thorny acorn]

it has its moments

[night lark]

For the memes its funny but i find it hard to make it useful because mic inputs and voice register arent consistent to gauging distance is hard

[topaz yarrow]

Anyone from team17 knows why the new update is missing from game pass? or are we waiting for MS to push the update?

[halcyon cosmos]

is it normal for all the servers to entirely disappear if i disable crossplay?

[halcyon cosmos]

goes from 116 servers to none

i dont wanna play with console players 😭

[silent marten]

I like that in insurgency because it means you need to refrain from giving your teammates info over comma in close quarters where enemies can hear

[gusty lichen]

Think what you want about El Alamein, but it ain't gonna play the same on the new map with the amount of good full autos available to the brits.

[past vortex]

its not console crossplay

[thorny acorn]

you cant on pc

[lucid tusk]

PC doesn't have console crossplay

[past vortex]

its steam,epic,ms

[grave coyote]

salam

[halcyon cosmos]

oh? crossplay has never meant that in any game ive played before

[wind shore]

You can play with people on console through ps5

[halcyon cosmos]

well ps5 is a console, so

[wind shore]

HLL has cross platform play

[past vortex]

:D

[arctic rampart]

Are the servers down?

[lucid tusk]

Not between pc and console though

[wind shore]

Nein!!!!!

[sturdy quarry]

yep T17 use the word "crossplay" different to most

and use the controller symbol to mean epic / gamepass / ms store, and not that you are using a controller....

its genius really

[halcyon cosmos]

this makes my brain hurt immensely

i dond like

[past vortex]

its technically not wrong

but yea, stupid

[gusty lichen]

u cannot play with console if u play on pc, simple as

[halcyon cosmos]

game is fun but why not just follow the industry standards regarding that, to avoid confusion lol

[past vortex]

the controller icon is ust lazyness, its wahat was available in unreal

[sturdy quarry]

hmm most people think of it as "across" systems i.e. pc and consoles

not "across" stores on the same system

[gusty lichen]

because people do not want pc and console crossplay, it would be terrible

[halcyon cosmos]

?? what you talking about, im not talking about crossplay

[arctic rampart]

It's very, very hard to add symbols representing from which store they are playing.

[halcyon cosmos]

im talking about the ingame symbols and such lmfao

[sturdy quarry]

if all the same system, why have the "enable crossplay" option

[gusty lichen]

i see

[sturdy quarry]

just to filter out epic / gamepass free noobs for a short while is the only use case

[halcyon cosmos]

im an epic noob 😭

[sturdy quarry]

whereas console crossplay its an option to say " i dont want aim assist in my pc game"

[lunar remnant]

Is there a way to bring my purchases and account i made on my Xbox hll to my epic hll

[halcyon cosmos]

but if i turn off crossplay there is no servers at all to join

[sand badge]

is it the sea sever in vc

[halcyon cosmos]

😩

[sturdy quarry]

yeh cos no server admin would run epic only

[lunar remnant]

Cuz im not giving up my level 80 acc

[past vortex]

yea almost no server has it disabled

[halcyon cosmos]

i dont play community servers

only official

[zenith sigil]

nope, two completely separate environments

[past vortex]

lol

[sturdy quarry]

why would official be epic only?

[halcyon cosmos]

theres not even official servers if i disable crossplay

which was my point

[sturdy quarry]

they would want any store to join the official seerve

[zenith sigil]

i think disabling crossplay will show servers available only to epic games players, which probably don't exist so that's why

[halcyon cosmos]

why even have the disable option available if i functionally cannot use it due to that

makes 0 sense

[sturdy quarry]

exactly

[past vortex]

you dont say :D

[sturdy quarry]

crossplay makes no sense on the pc version of the game

the only use was to keep out gamepass players when they noobed around too much

but that has all settled down

[strong sigil]

Is the console dlc cosmetic glitch ever going to be patched??

[lunar remnant]

That's big gae now i gotta be bullied for no reason

[fleet jacinth]

Updated game. Started game. Game crashes. Everything reset. Again.

[zenith sigil]

the hll profiles are bound to the xbox/epic/steam/psn account, it's a questionable choice yes i know

[past vortex]

you deserve to be bullied for using that as a slur

[lunar remnant]

Ok huk lmao

[zenith sigil]

naahhhhh the presets got reset? oh curse you team17

[fleet jacinth]

Everything.

[zenith sigil]

annoying

[fleet jacinth]

Very. Especially as it happened 2 weeks agao too 😄

[arctic rampart]

Are servers down?

[prisma locust]

dont htink so

[halcyon cosmos]

nope

theyre up, im in a match by myself rn capturing points lmao

[karmic scroll]

it sounds so dumb but it fr pisses me off when the game updates and suddenly every role is just a default albert lol

I NEED my drip

[zenith sigil]

well, at least they give me a reason to revise my drip lmao

[solemn marten]

why is it that I see no servers?

[orchid phoenix]

i dont see the servers

[arctic rampart]

Are they down?

[orchid phoenix]

there are servers but the ones i want arent showing up

[solemn marten]

history tab is completely empty, and my favorites show up as "serevr unavaliable?

[orchid phoenix]

same

I reinstalled the game just in case

[solemn marten]

wasn't there a patch just know? some of them might have not updated yet

[orchid phoenix]

but still none .

[solemn marten]

which makes sense

but I don't see anything

[solemn marten]

so do you see none or some?

[fringe plume]

All my main servers are down pretty sure the server owners have to update their ends

[solemn marten]

which again, makes complete sense

[fringe plume]

Mhm

[solemn marten]

but I see zero servers

list completely empty, as well as history

[analog apex]

I see all of them. A bug once again likely.

[fringe plume]

Relaunch yet?

[solemn marten]

the favorites are the only ones which show up, but as unavailable

[solemn marten]

I've tried restarting, verifying, reinstalling
nothing works

[orchid phoenix]

zero server

[fringe plume]

When mine did that i just came back like an hour or so later prob bugged on ya hardcore

[compact jetty]

I’m on brick mode

Game was super clunky last night crashed twice. Anyone else?

[wind shore]

Yep

[earnest path]

Does anyone know how to fix vc on Xbox?

[arctic rampart]

You dont

[earnest path]

Dayum

[arctic rampart]

There's some fixes in #1270189497719586908, but they're all essentially duct-tape fixes

[earnest path]

Ah okay

[arctic rampart]

As in complete RNG whether or not it works and then chances are it'll break again

[earnest path]

Ah okay

[solemn marten]

f uck meeee
I just accidently disabled crossplay
so stupuid

thats all it was

[earnest path]

Loool

[analog apex]

good for you, because there are peeps for whom the problem is somewhere else 👍

[solemn marten]

why is there a "turn off multiplayer" button disguised as something else without a proper warning, in the very least

[solemn marten]

sure sure
although suffering from your own stupidity hurts more

[river wadi]

Anybody have any clue why my Epic isnt detecting hell let loose out of nowhere? I 100% have the game installed and played it last night.

[inland jungle]

Good afternoon Greg, is it SOON season yet?

Must be soon season, i can feel it ☀️

[shadow bronze]

Day 5 of requesting Steam Workshop for HLL

[mystic coral]

.

[analog apex]

just 5? 😄

I have seen such request the first time a looong time ago.

[last nexus]

WHEN NEXT UPDATE COMING GUYSv

[past vortex]

what would you upload there?

[normal fjord]

why still so many official servers? Shut 90% of them so people play on community servers

better retention and experience

[wind shore]

xbox is so dead its actually unreal

[minor lava]

anyone know someone with IGN Oracle Ming or something of that sorts?

[shadow bronze]

Experiment with enablement of custom game modes at first - simple things like removing commander spawn limits & modify resource generation from nodes ( or just base resource generation ).

While there are obviously some definite things within this game that are obviously hard-coded in - there are still mechanisms that likely have variable factors that can be amended to expirement around new ways to play. Won't every really know though until the community has the access to play around with it

Not to mention I have a whole team of actual good developers that make entire mod packs for Arma3 that would love to get their hands dirty on this - they'd have a field day

[past vortex]

they cant even fix a menu, no way they can make a mod sdk

[shadow bronze]

then i'll keep reminding them, takes me 5 seconds to type out a message every day. I'm patient

[pseudo heath]

19gb for nothing -_-

[tough briar]

33gb update is mad

[dusty bolt]

Have you tried resetting your search filters?

Also are you sure your game is updated?

[civic dune]

can i stir fry leeks the same way i would with onion ?

[spring tulip]

Mine is 44.6 gb

[tough briar]

yeah big update

should i switch from pc gamepass to steam?

[wind shore]

id think so

[civic dune]

last time i tried they came out super oily and disgusting

i plan to do porkchops in mushroom sauce tonight

gonna invite 1 or 2 relatives

[wind shore]

well google says it should be good for it

[civic dune]

alri

[wind shore]

and plus im pretty sure leeks and onions are the same sort of family of vegetable but i might be wrong

[civic dune]

yeaaa i think leeks are like softer taste onions or something

[wind shore]

no wait its leeks and celery i think

[civic dune]

oh

[wind shore]

idk i js googled it and got some result, i put it in #off-topic-mess-hall

[spring tulip]

I dont think it will do much of anything if you switch

[slow fox]

My game just finished downloading and it looks amazing, just in the practise range

COD WAW memories right here …

Can’t wait

[upbeat fern]

yo

[civic dune]

how do i get rid of ghosting without disabling antialiasing entirely? i had antialiasing on high and people would leave sorta ghosting as they moved on my screen which looked awful, i guess its TAA

[steady vessel]

Waw hardcore mode on a much much larger scale.

[blazing cedar]

what is the update about?

[cyan saddle]

Probably TAA yes

[robust bear]

Use the community TAA none of the others...you'll notice a massive difference 🙏

[umbral venture]

Hi. Are there any channels dedicated to finding other players to play with?

[analog apex]

#pc-looking-for-unit

[analog apex]

and in case you are looking for a longer-term group, #pc-divisions-recruitment

😉

[umbral venture]

Thank you very much.

[restive imp]

anyone know why im only getting empty servers when i go to look for one to join, i already checked my filters they are set to default

[slate canopy]

Are you on PTE or actually Hell Let Loose? Do you have cross play on?

[raw sequoia]

Pacific theatre when?

[analog apex]

hopefully not any time soon

[restive imp]

im on the actual HLL there are real servers on there but when i look it says only like 180 found when usually there is abt 900 or so

nvm needed an update ig gonna retry when its done

[raw sequoia]

Why hopefully not?

U good?

Always one guy who gotta be unique smh

[analog apex]

No Pacific before adding at least ~8 maps for the British and at least another ~8 for the Soviets to get their theatres on par with the US maps count first.
👎

In the very worst case scenario, 5 new for each (so 10 in total), before we can even think about the Pacific. Or do we want another empty theatre/faction with 1-2 maps, which will make 3 empty theatres/factions in total**?**

[raw sequoia]

Ok that’s fairs I take back what I said

[restive imp]

great point I'd love to see a pacific theatre but we need to see more out of the european theatre first

[raw sequoia]

When are they gonna do allat then?

Squad 44 is cooking with the updates rn HLL is lackin

[analog apex]

no idea... maybe in 5 years at the very least xD (so far we were getting 2 new maps a year ever since Team17 took over the development)

[raw sequoia]

Erm 🫤

[restive imp]

prob a few years but ig with the scale of the game it takes a while

[raw sequoia]

Why do they not give a shhi about this game what other games do they own?

[analog apex]

Worms

no idea what else

[thorny tendon]

Yes, thats why I ask. Are those pc players with a controler?
And, what about consoles, is it cross plataforms?

[raw sequoia]

Blud they got that much money from epic games they’ve got money coming out their ahhh they can spare a bit to re invest trust me

[analog apex]

but you have said it right... they rly haven't seemed to give a sh?? about HLL so far

[raw sequoia]

What the utter fu is that shi

Worms??

Lazy developers

[analog apex]

https://www.team17.com/games/worms

[raw sequoia]

Good game

Lazy devs… what a shi combo. Or you have bad game but productive devs

Why can’t just get good game and productive devs smh

[analog apex]

either that or not competent... or both

[raw sequoia]

That is the absolute worst thing I’ve seen all day

[visual niche]

Greg in the console chat channel

[analog apex]

so I would highly doubt they could deliver the Pacific even if they decided to

[restive imp]

they should its just the development takes a while so even if they started now we might not see anything for a while

[raw sequoia]

Probabaly not competent if worms is the only game they’ve done.

[raw sequoia]

Perhaps

[cyan saddle]

They're just PC players on non-Steam platforms, so either Epic or Gamepass.

You wouldn't know if someone has plugged in and is using their controller or not

And there's no cross-platform play between PC and consoles.

[raw sequoia]

Yarnhub is making their own game if anyone knows what that is 😮‍💨

[opaque parcel]

typical T17 update, change around stuff on maps and provide no changelog

[analog apex]

what did they do this time?

something they probably didn't notice themselves... again?

EDIT: it was a false alarm, upon a 1st hand examination I verified that there is nothing missing

[proud cobalt]

why is this update like 30 gigs for some voip shieeet

[opaque parcel]

you'll notice a large gap in the hedges going towards pizza slice at Pierre's Farm on SMDM

[raw sequoia]

Update????

[opaque parcel]

that was not there before

[analog apex]

no, no no no
not again
They have already removed hedgerows in one of the previous upodates of theirs, without them knowing.

EDIT: it was a false alarm, upon a 1st hand examination I verified that there is nothing missing

[visual niche]

Greg doing some gardening work on SMDM again?

[opaque parcel]

No Quality Assurance team = consistent error prone updates

[cyan saddle]

Because the Xbox client does not have smart downloads and instead opts to redownload the entire game (which is compressed down to a single file) even though only a tiny part of it was changed.

[proud cobalt]

are you being fr

[analog apex]

I haven't played HLL today, but I am launching because I rly want to see this.

like... Jesus

[opaque parcel]

bro its like they didnt even mention changing any part of any map like c'mon

[analog apex]

it's a bug then, just like before when there were missing assets, hedgerows and other map related asset problems

[visual niche]

They should've at least mentioned they were adding a bug beforehand 🙄

[opaque parcel]

I dont think its a bug and I think it is intentional but probably not supposed to be on the main update

[analog apex]

And Greg was ensuring us when it happened the first time(s) that they will pay attention more or some sh??. Empty words again.
But I need to see it 1st with my own eyes.

EDIT: it was indeed a false alarm, upon a 1st hand examination I verified that there is nothing missing

[opaque parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/smoke-duck-gif-13236181837901593958

happens every time

[proud cobalt]

Is there any way to transfer my progress from xbox game pass on pc to my epic games account?

[opaque parcel]

no the files are installed differently

[proud cobalt]

i mean like my account, my different classes levels and account level

[visual niche]

Probably a bug caused by an error in packaging the clean build updated version for distribution to platforms.

[visual niche]

No just to Xbox console provided you are using the same MS account, but no

[analog apex]

great, just when I was driving around Piere's farm I got "fatal error" with "OK" button... crash
great job

but I haven't noticed anything before I crashed, where is the missing hedgerow supposed to be exactly? @opaque parcel

[opaque parcel]

heading east towards pizza slice from Pierr'es farm, if you go on the glider in the open field it is even more noticeable

[analog apex]

what is pizza slice there?

never heard that term in relation to the Piere's farm before

[opaque parcel]

area in i5 map edge, looks like a tiny pizza slice

[analog apex]

but OK I will climb the glider and try to see

[opaque parcel]

if i could post images in here would be 1000x easier

[analog apex]

post it in the #new-recruit-barracks

or #hll-artwork

I checked the area now, but there isn't missing anythign there I think @opaque parcel

yep, everything that's supposed to be there, is there

[opaque parcel]

idk just looks like the gap is way bigger than it was

[analog apex]

I will have to compare with some pre-patch footage

[opaque parcel]

not like it is a massive change as I believe the hedge that was there, you could shoot through

[charred seal]

oops wrong server mb

[analog apex]

just found some footage, will post picture in the #new-recruit-barracks
it seems the same as before

false alarm, thank God

otherwise I would be pissed

[opaque parcel]

same

[opaque solstice]

how do i get in a game

[river rover]

First, be sure you are playing the actual game and NOT the PTE=Public Testing. Then once in set up your configurations\settings and Enlist and join any of the hundreds of serves available.

[wanton sparrow]

Oh no, GFN is patching :/

[vagrant mountain]

what’s in the new update

[river rover]

#telegrams - a few recent pressing issues.

[civic dune]

will there ever be a party system on the PC build? 🥹

[gentle lintel]

a party is not given to you, rather, a party is what you make of it - ancient chinese proverb

[eager crypt]

A party system would be a godsend. Wonder if that’s another thing BM prevented implementation of due to their awful codebase…

That’s why I’m also pretty lenient with this dev team just because I don’t doubt they have a ton of unfucking to do from the previous tenants…

[noble aurora]

yeahh

id honestly even be fine if they jsut remade the code from scratch, i would wait a year or two as long as a LOT of stuff got fixed/upgraded

[noble aurora]

party system tho would be firre

[sly flicker]

Assalam alaikum gang! Whats up!

Gonna be playing in around 45 minutes

[arctic rampart]

Bro what are these takes

Updates?
HLL 2?
UE5?

Y'all legit out of this world

We'll be lucky if they maybe fix the server list searching and then freezing the game for like 15 seconds. And y'all want them to rewrite the game from scratch 🤣

[pine vector]

its unfortunate the game isnt doing that well technical wise, also holy the freeze thing is so real lmao

[swift burrow]

@candid topaz we need console/pc crossplay pls 😭

[arctic rampart]

What are you, new around here?

[worthy charm]

Very reasonable things

They forgot pacific tho

[arctic rampart]

That's already 100% gonna be in the roadmap. Based off the suggestions, literally everyone wants it w/o a doubt

[gentle verge]

yeah but why cant they just rebuild the whole game

also gib Pacific

[arctic rampart]

Go ask chatgpt

[gentle verge]

i was going to make a joke about the name similarity of deepseek (the new AI thingy) and the pseudonym of the Nixon informant but wordlist says no

[ancient wren]

hi

[gentle verge]

so your going to have to do the heavy lifting on that one yourself

hello mr frodo

[bronze hound]

going in to battle soon, coffee first

[slate canopy]

Good luck soldier!

[wind shore]

Hey

[acoustic rapids]

Read patch notes, no lewis gun fix. 😥

[wind shore]

Who wants to bet that the roadmap sor 2025 has nothing from the community suggestion on it?

[pine ember]

I bet two crates of water

[wind shore]

I wager you’re right

[novel girder]

It has been ages since I've played HLL. I play on PS5, and I see there is a server browser now? Is PS5/Xbox now crossplay with PC? :D

[oak current]

no

[novel girder]

Then why--

[oak current]

then why what? 👀

[novel girder]

Why is there a server browser for a console game

[oak current]

cause console has private servers now

[river rover]

It's what the community asked for. 😉

[novel girder]

Oh I'm not complaining about server browser one bit!

It's just that usually that is associated with PC gaming lol

[oak current]

is it? 👀

[novel girder]

So I was expecting that also meant it was crossplay with PC now

[oak current]

nah, pc only plays with pc and consoles play with consoles, also no plans of that changing any time soon

[river rover]

PC and console should really never be crossplay together.

[novel girder]

I mean I don't see server browsers for console games usually, but it's regular for PC

[novel girder]

I mean... I simultaneously agree and disagree with that

Aiming is a billion times easier on M&K

Especially when needing to be so precise

[river rover]

PC is larger now too. It's now Epic, Steam, and PC Gamepass.

[edgy violet]

Just hit a 472M headshot with a M1… is that a record?

[novel girder]

Oh yeahhhh I heard there's recently been an influx of free-to-play players from Epic

[river rover]

Console being across 2 different platforms as well. Xbox X\S vs PS5.

[novel girder]

Console was crossplay with itself for a while

Pretty much as long as I can remember

[river rover]

Right, that hasn't changed and probably won't.

[oak current]

aye

[novel girder]

Wait

[oak current]

waits

[novel girder]

I heard Xbox can play with PC though?

[river rover]

Nope, confusion of PC Gamepass. It uses the built in OS Xbox app.

[oak current]

No, PC is EpicGamesStore, Steam and Xbox Game Pass (PC).

[novel girder]

I have been lied to :P

[oak current]

cause Xbox cant be bothered to name it something NOT Confusing

[novel girder]

Or wait-- maybe it's cross progression?

[oak current]

no

[novel girder]

Gotcha

[visual niche]

Wait

[novel girder]

I'm VERY glad there is a server browser now though

[visual niche]

Cross progression

[novel girder]

waits

[oak current]

waits²

[autumn lichen]

is ur name maxim without an e at the back

[visual niche]

If you use the same MS account for the gamepass on PC & xbox console, it'll carry over

[novel girder]

What about it?

[novel girder]

Gotcha. Maybe that's why people thought that [there was Xbox/PC crossplay]

Can you even play HLL on PC with a controller?

[river rover]

Yes, I think many do.

[oak current]

yes

I wouldnt go as far as calling them "many"

theres only so many insane people on pc

[novel girder]

I feel like if I were to play HLL on PC, I'd do everything in my power to not play with a controller

[river rover]

Yep, it's pretty terrible. I guess though for those that only know controllers it's not that bad.

[novel girder]

I play with a controller because I'm too cheap and Mac-pilled to play on PC lol

I only use my Windows computer for what I have to and nothing more

[visual niche]

Idk, probably need a diagram at some point tbh

[warm girder]

All battlefield games have a server browser too

[novel girder]

But PC gaming is getting more tempting over the years

[novel girder]

Oh wait you're right-- I played Battlefield 5 a few months ago, I should know this

[warm girder]

But I can't think of many others

Arma on console or Day Z

I'd never touch this game if there was PC cross play though. They'd have such an upperhand on console

[novel girder]

Wait, since when the heck was Arma on console

[novel girder]

Personally, I'd want there to be servers with the options to have console/PC crossplay, but also have servers that disable it

I think that option should be there

[warm girder]

That'll kill the playerbase fast

[novel girder]

Because of the advantage?

[visual niche]

I was thinking input based crossplay would be cool, but then I remembered console probably doesn't want to always question whether or not they were killed by a cheater on PC

[warm girder]

Yup

[oak current]

the big ol problem

[novel girder]

Wait nvm, I like the idea that PC isn't crossplay with console, I take this back lol

[warm girder]

FOV, monitors, adjusting graphic settings, higher FPS, mouse, and yeah mods...

[novel girder]

I mean

I'm already squinting at my game display

I don't want a wider FOV

But in regards to everything else-- yeah...

I play on a 50" TV and the other day, some people were sniping me across a huge gap on El Alamein, and I was going 2 feet away from my TV to try to hit ~375m shots with a Kar-98 because people kept blasting me from across there

And we had no tanks or recon 😭

[visual niche]

I like the radial wheels on console, and how it tells you that "Personal Stats" is a clickable button lol

[gentle verge]

like setting aside all the cheating stuff how on earth do you make it fair for controller/mouse in terms of aiming when in hll its a lot of fine mirco adjustments as you shoot at fairly small hard to hit targets at range?

[novel girder]

Radial wheels?

Like for pings and stuff?

[visual niche]

Inventory mainly I was thinking

Instead of fumbling around the 1-8 keys

[novel girder]

I mean, you don't. Which is why it's probably better that they're separate

[visual niche]

Or scrolling

[novel girder]

I only recently realized I could do that, and it's life changing lol

(Instead of scrolling)

[visual niche]

Oh and there's a party system in-game too lol

[novel girder]

Does PC not have a party system?

[visual niche]

No 😔

[novel girder]

Wowwwww

I feel like that could be useful if you're intentionally in a different squad as one of your buddies

Like maybe you're both AT or Support or Engineer or something

[oak current]

was not needed while steam was the main system

since you just join your buddy via steam friends

but now with the EPS-influx, there might be a need for such a system

[visual niche]

Yeah, but especially for joining a server as a party with friends instead of coordinating joining the same server, then the same side, then the same unit

[novel girder]

EPS?

[oak current]

Epic Game Store

[novel girder]

Ah

Yeah maybe tbh

[gentle verge]

freeloaders (i say as i am one of them)

[novel girder]

Hey, I'm a PS+ freeloader

I mean it's not free anymore, but it was a free game of the month like 3-4 years ago

Isn't HLL only like $20

It's kind of a steal

[oak current]

👀

its on sale with -40% for 29.99

[novel girder]

why did I think it was $20

well shoot, I got a deal. I like free-- free is a good price

[oak current]

great price

[novel girder]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-damn-good-deal-good-deal-id-make-that-deal-gif-27676387

Dawww no GIFs

[past vortex]

20 isnt an unusual price

[novel girder]

I mean yeah

[rustic lily]

hello guyd

[compact jetty]

I think I have pinkeye

[novel girder]

Wait I have another question about the servers thing:

Some servers on console will have a pop-up, then say that I can type stuff in... but how the heck do I do that if I'm on console lol

Unless I can hookup a keyboard to my console...?

[novel girder]

rip dude :/

[compact jetty]

Got too close to the mrs brown balloon knot apparently

[snow rain]

Anybody know why the Kickstarter backers are not listed in the credits like they were supposed to be?

[azure heath]

Why would we? Might want to ask Greg about that.

[snow rain]

Well I don't expect you to know. You didn't back the game.

[uneven coyote]

Does building nodes go towards your class XP? Like say I build up 3 nodes, then switch to machine gunner, will that give me class XP or just level XP?

[orchid ledge]

Comms still broken after the update, huh.

[azure heath]

If you don't know, how would the others? I mean use common sense here. It's obviously the developers, or whoever is responsible for making the credits, not living up to their promise.

Is there not a private channel with other kickstarters?

[visual niche]

Definitely not a question any of us common folk can answer, so you're best bet is to:

a) tag Greg
b) DM Greg
c) https://team17.helpshift.com/hc/en/5-hell-let-loose/section/30-contact-us/

[snow rain]

Right. That's clearly what I'm asking the other backers, and or devs that are part of this Discord. I'm having trouble understanding how you can't see that, and how you're going to tell me to use common sense.

Yeah. You're right. I should just find myself out of the peasant chat.

[visual niche]

And potentially https://discord.com/channels/316459644476456962/1211680595143426108

[azure heath]

What I'm saying is why are you asking us, instead of DMing the guys with the actual power.

I get your concern. No doubt about that.

But there is no reason to be asking in here. Sorry about sounding rude.

[wind shore]

January 29th

Where is the roadmap

[azure heath]

Read the #telegrams.

[wind shore]

I've already read them all

[azure heath]

"We're still finalising the 2025 roadmap, with news to follow as soon as it's ready to share!"

-Greg today

[olive widget]

44gb for an three line update...holy crap

[wind shore]

Someone told me that last week

[gentle verge]

nah thats just epic games being trash i think

[wind shore]

Greg himself

[visual niche]

37MB download for me

[azure heath]

That's probably Steam being Steam, mine was only a few MB

[olive widget]

yaeh, gotta be steam, good lord

[hollow hare]

When will the mosin nagant m91 ever be addressed in the Soviet team. M91 in Stalingrad is like putting ww1 Gewher 98 in the German team in ww2 🙃

[azure heath]

I'm just quoting

[olive widget]

'here's a a whole new copy of your game'

[gentle verge]

yeah epic never really got the whole xdelta thing where you can copy only what you need

i had to delete hll and reinstall it bc it wanted double the space the game takes to do a tiny update whereas just getting rid of it and reinstalling from fresh takes the normal install size

[visual niche]

I mean that one is party how UE packages the game, and party because they probably want a single build for all the platforms. Steam also sends the entire game into cache to be patched despite the patch size

Here's a part of that process with memory: 1st is during HLL patching on Steam, 2nd is after a reboot when it's done

[topaz bison]

Is there any way to make your own server on localhost?

[misty belfry]

Cue soon™ spam

[fleet agate]

I forgot that i had deleted the movies folder and the update was 700mb 💀

[azure heath]

soon™

[covert elbow]

Nah we still got 2 months for soon apparently