💬general-discussion

[harsh edge]

Although I wasn't there 😔

[hoary eagle]

I think it would benefit more from a remake like 3. Even on the fox engine. And funny enough it has more weapons. Most of which are real.

Unlike 5's tumu guns

[fallen sail]

mang

[harsh edge]

God I hate mgs5s guns

PWs arsenal was so awesome

[fallen sail]

wanted to say mgs4 also had a ton of guns (of which you used none)

[harsh edge]

I had an S soldier with sneaking suit faster speed and the wrestler trait with a fully upgraded Mosin dude was a machine

[hoary eagle]

Why did kojima waste so much money on licensing music instead of guns?

[harsh edge]

70 guns and you'll never use anything besides the M4, MK2, M14 and rail gun

Mfers don't even remember mgs4 had 70 guns 😂

[deft idol]

People pick a favourite gun pretty quickly I think

[fallen sail]

i only ever used the hushpuppy and the barett

the mk2 literally one tapped every enemy in the game

including the fucking gekkos

[hoary eagle]

Huh?

[harsh edge]

Because the man who sold the world isn't cheap 😂

[hoary eagle]

Don't care my gun autism must be satisfied

[harsh edge]

Neither is Rebel Yell

[hoary eagle]

And all the other 80s hits?

[harsh edge]

That's one thing I'll never take from mgs5 man that is such a good song choice to use as a theme framing device

[deft idol]

Like, it doesn't matter how many guns there are, people usually pick whatever one works for them

[hoary eagle]

Why the fuck was kids in america even here when it came out in 1986 and not 84?!

[fallen sail]

I'd rather take the songs tbh, hearing that shit randomly while exploring afghanistan is so unforgettable

[hoary eagle]

Man who sold the world yes. But the others. No.

[harsh edge]

Yeag

[hoary eagle]

That and it guts the codec completely

[harsh edge]

The voice acting in mgs5 was turbo bad

Ruined Troy baker for me

[deft idol]

Ump is the worst gun on siege but its still my favourite

[harsh edge]

I was a Troy baker fan boy until mgs5, now he's just aight

[hoary eagle]

Either was literally the only good one. And also huey

[fallen sail]

untill zero comes in and fucking smacks your ass in the tapes

[harsh edge]

He took Patrick Zimmermans legendary performance of Ocelot and shitted on it

[hoary eagle]

It's not over not yet snake

Also isn't he supposed to be from the soviet union? Wouldn't he have a russian accent?

[fallen sail]

he's higgs bro

[hoary eagle]

That's something that bothered me in 3.

[harsh edge]

This, is the greatest handgun ever made. The Colt Single Action Army. 6 bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves.

[hoary eagle]

Fuck higgs.

[fallen sail]

He's a double agent, he blends

[harsh edge]

His mother is American

[hoary eagle]

Worst part is it's not even in mgs 5.

[harsh edge]

Ocelot was the child of The Sorrow and the Boss

[hoary eagle]

And where did he grow up?

Not around the boss that's for sure

[harsh edge]

IIRC it's said Ocelot wasn't raised in the ussr

[fallen sail]

honey you aint nothing but damaged goods

[hoary eagle]

An american who was raised by soviets isn't gonna sound like a southerner.

[hoary eagle]

I can hear him in my brain

[harsh edge]

Ocelot does a Russian accent a few times in MGS2

[hoary eagle]

Aghhhhhg

[hoary eagle]

I was refering to 5.

[fallen sail]

i'm fragile but i'm not that frajil

[harsh edge]

Oh yeah for sure Troy baker just butchers it

[hoary eagle]

Troy just does a sothern accent cause cowboy shit

[harsh edge]

100% awful phoned in performance for such an important character

[fallen sail]

troy baker always plays troy baker instead of any character he is supposed to play

[harsh edge]

They could've gotten the va from 3 to come play him or paid Patrick Zimmerman to do it for Christ's sake no one wanted to be replaced on the voice crew in mgs5 it was Konami being stupid

[hoary eagle]

Keither. While he did a good job was probably a terrible choice too.

Kojima forgot he had an anime movie game series. Not a movie game series

[harsh edge]

Facts

[hoary eagle]

Mgs is niche. Even if it had a massive fan base.

[fallen sail]

keifer coulda been good if he actually talked lmao

[harsh edge]

I'm just glad David Hayter is back 🥺

[fallen sail]

And it made sense for venom i suppose

[harsh edge]

When he did the reveal trailer and I heard "kept you waiting huh" I would've went right out to pre-order

[hoary eagle]

He manage to do an okay impersonation of harrison ford. But he's too happy to be there. Harrison never wants to be around lol.

[fallen sail]

are you talkinf about the remake?

[harsh edge]

Yeag

[fallen sail]

wont the remake just reuse the dialogue?

[hoary eagle]

Mostly in the tapes and optional scenes.

[fallen sail]

even in the tapes he sounds detached

[harsh edge]

David Hayter did a ton of hyping up before the release date was announced. Talking about the FOX Engine, interviewing developer staff, he's finally getting acknowledged as the face of MGS and it's nice.

[fallen sail]

the tapes are such fanservice though

[fallen sail]

The FOX engine? isn't delta being made on unreal?

[hoary eagle]

Yeah. The most we ever get into his character is in the low moral cutscene.

[hoary eagle]

Yeah

[harsh edge]

Is it? I thought it was on the fox engine

[fallen sail]

the game does just look like mgsv to be fair

the gameplay that is

the graphics look nice, maybe a little overdone

[harsh edge]

Either way, he was all over the place talking about the game. Dudes so happy to be back in the role and it shows

[hoary eagle]

Seen some gameplay and movement is a little more fluid. Inbetween 3 and 5. But a little smoother and turn leaning when moving fast

[harsh edge]

Fun fact, he was supposed to be the only returning VA for MGS Twin Snakes. He took a 50% pay cut to give Konami funds to pay the rest of the cast

[fallen sail]

everything down to the UI is straight outta 5

[hoary eagle]

Lol. And then THEY phoned the fuck in.

David is such a cool guy tho.

[harsh edge]

He's also the only VA whose played every game in the series. Most of them haven't played any of the games, and Christopher Randolph (Otacon/Huey) played the 1st one

[fallen sail]

dont get me started on twin snakes 😭

[hoary eagle]

Mei ling, naomi and the russian chick all lost their accents.

[fallen sail]

the fucking scene with the armstech president

[harsh edge]

Kojima said TS is closer to his vision of how mgs1 would've been

Hardware limitations kept mgs1 from being more like ts

[fallen sail]

that is terrifying

[hoary eagle]

So mgs 1 was trying to be maxrix and anime

Of course...

[fallen sail]

i'm so glad the ps1 sucked ass

thank you sony, very cool

[harsh edge]

Tbh my only issue with ts is mgs2 features ruined the ocelot fight

I don't mind the anime moments

[hoary eagle]

Kojima toned it a little with 2

[fallen sail]

I think it also sucks that the tranq gun just fucks the entire game up

[harsh edge]

Also ts is just otacon retelling the events of mgs1 that's why there's all the anime moments

[hoary eagle]

Liquid ocelot.

[harsh edge]

😂

[hoary eagle]

Kinda wish meryl stuck with snake tbh.

He, meryl and otacon could have made a fine team.

[fallen sail]

yeah but snake doesn't shit

his suit is too skintight for that

[hoary eagle]

I fucking hate johnny.

[harsh edge]

Toned it you mean the dude possessing a guy's arm

The vampire

The chick who defects missiles with her mind

Vampire running on water

A fat dude on roller skates in an eod suit drinking wine from a crazy straw

RAIDEN

😏

[fallen sail]

you know meryl likes him for that ass, that man can FART

[hoary eagle]

I said toned it. I didn't say down.

[harsh edge]

LOL

[hoary eagle]

Also the president grabbing raiden.

[fallen sail]

LMAO

[harsh edge]

You're...a man!?

Lmaooooooooooo

[fallen sail]

why'd you go and remind me of that

[hoary eagle]

It's funny

[harsh edge]

You think Quinton Flynn knew what he was signing up for when he agreed to play Raiden

[hoary eagle]

And stuck in my head

[hoary eagle]

No.

He played silver in sonic.

[harsh edge]

I like to think he thought it was just gonna be an easy 20 minute adventure cash a paycheck

[fallen sail]

raiden really got taken for a fucking ride alright

[hoary eagle]

So I like to imagine raiden yelling it's no use take this.

[hoary eagle]

At least 3 times

Don't forget 4 and mgr

[harsh edge]

Raiden is proof any blond haired twink with enough training can take on an entire army

[hoary eagle]

We really should have had mgr2.

[harsh edge]

I mean-

[fallen sail]

wish we got to see the OG mgr story

[hoary eagle]

Instead of survive

[harsh edge]

Nah, I stand by that. I said what I said.

[hoary eagle]

Fuck mgr1 was gonna be on the fox engine.

[fallen sail]

yeah crazy to think that was originally the first fox game

[hoary eagle]

Actually on that

[harsh edge]

UwU

Nanomachines son

[fallen sail]

[hoary eagle]

Imagine if Ground zeroes was longer, between that kojima releases The original mgr and in mgs 5 with the unlockable raiden suit we can have a total change in gameplay where it's just open world mgr

[fallen sail]

jetstream dlc fucks no bias

[hoary eagle]

Jetstream sam fucks. I am biased

And it's a fact

[fallen sail]

still wishing someone uses demon magic to make an HF sword mod for mgsv

[hoary eagle]

If only.

[fallen sail]

the mission with raiden in ground zeroes was also fucking awesome

[hoary eagle]

It'd have to completely change the player controller

[hoary eagle]

If only he didn't leave his sword behind that bitch

[fallen sail]

his dash is already strong enough lmao

[hoary eagle]

I want to cut people in half

[fallen sail]

😔

[hoary eagle]

Which is another thing in my project

[fallen sail]

It's fucking tragic that no new games have mgr's cutting

[hoary eagle]

Indeed

Hell I'd settle for just dynamic limb slicing

[fallen sail]

start a new game and you just cut a giant fucking tree into a million pieces

[hoary eagle]

Lol

[hoary eagle]

I don't intend to include blade mode in my game but when melee weapons are equiped (and cyberised) it'll feel like a character action game lol

Best anology I can make is mgs 5 meets just cause 3, crysis and mgr (depending on what you unlock)

And if I can get any of this to work

At least I'm mostly done with the player face model.

Kinda hope for some good luck on that tbh

[fallen sail]

That sounds super overambitious either way

[hoary eagle]

Well. Better to shoot for the stars and see how high I can fly. Right?

Besides. I'm not aiming for hd realism.

Modelling and art are the easy part to me tbh

[fallen sail]

Trust me, that is NOT the way to go for solo indie dev

I know a guy who redid his dream project about 3 times and he's doing another restart right now

[hoary eagle]

Well. At the very least I'll take my time to get the base line working.

[hoary eagle]

Oh...

[fallen sail]

Super ambitious, with tons of cool features that he just can't polish to the level he wants in this lifetime

But his work did catch some eyes so now he's working with a team on a separate project of his

[hoary eagle]

Even so.

[fallen sail]

So it's not all bad

[hoary eagle]

I can make the infrastructure I need to get the stuff I want to work.

Only problem is I lack a programmer.

[hoary eagle]

That's good at least.

And I do have a methood to attact interest despite my inability to program.

[fallen sail]

My suggestion is try starting off with a small project, which you KNOW you will finish easily and then look into your actual dream stuff

[hoary eagle]

Well.

[fallen sail]

Go ahead and do a bunch of projects, enter a gamejam

[hoary eagle]

Milestones are a form of a project.

And the character model is probably the most important one since it's the centre of attention at all times.

[fallen sail]

Getting through phases of a game and actually putting a game out there are different things, it's good to have experience with all of them before you actually make something super complicated

[hoary eagle]

The model I also intend to be multipurpose. Futureproofed in a way. So once it is done. I can make additives and accessories so the model itself will never need to be remade. I will also probably make some shape key stuff for wider uses and stuff

[waxen latch]

THE FUCK you mean

Im adding 200 features at once

and im gonna throw 200 bible assets

gonna sprinkle 1 million crosses the level

[hoary eagle]

You're the proverbial friend?

[fallen sail]

My game just containd the entirety of the bible (as side content)

[fallen sail]

[waxen latch]

Im just gonna add features and content that vaguely paints a story

[fallen sail]

no lol

[hoary eagle]

No?

[waxen latch]

and then never explain it

[hoary eagle]

Good

[waxen latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUWg905fGTA

[hoary eagle]

Mine isn't even gonna have a story.

[fallen sail]

(2014)

[hoary eagle]

You and your friends that you somehow convicned to play are gonna do shit all over the warzone and prolly win.

[fallen sail]

warzone caldera

[hoary eagle]

Welcome to the War speedrun: skip everything and sneak into the final area to take the main base hostage and win the war. Record 37 hours 20minutes and 12.222 seconds.

[hoary eagle]

?

[faint wigeon]

i just started kingdom come 2 i hope its as good as its been hyped to be

[fallen sail]

going through kcd 1 right now and that game is super fuckin janky

pretty fun though i love robbing people

[hoary eagle]

Lol

[green tusk]

If you intend to play the second, it has a lot more qol

[hoary eagle]

Largely from 3rd person animation stuff

[hoary eagle]

How so?

[green tusk]

Much better tutorialization and you don’t start out being unable to wipe your own ass

And the ui is more understandable imo

[fallen sail]

is the combat not just a mess of animation driven nonsense?

and is your player controller not constantly getting stuck on the weird terrain?

[green tusk]

And game systems are just more fleshed out in general

Been a while since I played the first, but the second doesn’t have those problems no

Well, some stairs are bit bad on collision but that’s my only complaint about that

[faint wigeon]

I havent even played the first, im just bored an decided to play it cuz ive heard alot abt it

[sharp tapir]

guys i got a question what does it mean if a windows defender icon is beside something

[hoary eagle]

Ngl that's something I hate about helldivers.

[tired oxide]

Hell Divers got oversold by YouTube reviewers. It was underwhelming after a half hour for me

[fallen sail]

hd2 movement looks pretty smooth to me

[hoary eagle]

I love it most of the time but the auto mantling and geometry get me killed too often.

[fallen sail]

kcd movement is super twitchy and unnatural, it has no momentum or interlaced animations

[hoary eagle]

This is why I prefer jump buttons.

[orchid pulsar]

i just spend 25 minutes looking for a missing civilian on twisted nerve

black dude in all black in a dark corner

😢

[hoary eagle]

Kinda wish there were more games where dismemberment simply disabled an enemy or at least hindedered them instead of outright killing them instantly.

[errant wyvern]

Quick LE question. What's the policy on tasers vs pepper spray vs batons?

Like, is there an escalating scale of force that's valid?

Or isn't just treated as 6 of one and half a dozen of the other?

[hoary eagle]

I kinda just shoot em if they point their gun at me. This is a raid. Not a negotiation. Your criminal life is of little value to me.

[errant wyvern]

Having been hit with all 3 in my lifetime, I think I prefer being hit with batons over being zapped and peppered

[hoary eagle]

Have you been shot?

[hoary eagle]

Also how the fuck did you end up in situations where you're peppered and zapped?

[waxen latch]

Mgsv type shit

[hoary eagle]

Similar but not the same.

Mgs5 is a lot smoother

[fallen sail]

legit except it has physics and shit

[hoary eagle]

A lot more fine

[hoary eagle]

And the physics are glitchy as fuck

[fallen sail]

still physics, while MGSVs controls are more fine they're also a lot more stilted

dont even get me started on the driving in that game too

[waxen latch]

It felt like driving a soapbox

[fallen sail]

kojima really played the driving in mgsv and thought "lets make a game about that"

[waxen latch]

Iykyk

[hoary eagle]

At least you can drive smoothly in 5 most of the time. Hd2 is always in bum rush mode

The frv handles like the most top heavy thing in the world.

Like the top of the roof is more attracted to the ground than the wheels are

At least in 5 if you flip your car you can save it by faulton or using rocket punch

Also ngl. In ron. The stramer guy. I'd kill him.

Outside of arresting him for the achivement. I'm gonna kill him every time I replay it.

[prime dagger]

id if id say that tbh

snake in mgs5 is a lot more planted to the ground but hd2s movement flows better

the transition between the different movement states is a lot faster but youre much more prone to being knocked around

[errant wyvern]

Does a 22 count?

Also, my buddy was in law enforcement for a while and I may or may not have gotten drunk and convinced him to zap me so I could see what it's like. The pepper spray was an unrelated incident where my ex sprayed me. We won't discuss why but it involves her taking a sample tour of the orange county hotdog fair.

I think he does deskwork now. Something about nerve damage in his leg?

[hoary eagle]

Yes a 22 counts

[errant wyvern]

Yeah. Grazed thigh teaching my nephew how to shoot. It was a 22 short out of an old revolver so it probably wouldn't have done much if it was dead on anyways but meh.

I think it was 22 short anyways

It's been a while

[runic aspen]

why do i get punish for shooting runners

i think ROE states you can shoot running people

[hoary eagle]

Dude. Don't matter if it was a 22. Or a broken pos gun. If it can go off and hit you. It can kill you.

[errant wyvern]

It's complicated. Technically most law enforcement insists you stop the threat. Someone actively running isn't technically a threat if they're not armed or going for a weapon. Usually anyways.

Although that's just a guideline. There's always circumstances that can alter the rules to fit the specific nuances of the situation in question.

[hoary eagle]

Geneva also says civvies are free game if they get in the way of the fighting and hide enemies in their crowds

[runic aspen]

yeah

i was just basicly in a sniper position, and this person was running with a weapon so i shot her

[rare imp]

US police are not bound by the geneva convention

[runic aspen]

yeah

they have diffrent ROE

[rare imp]

they follow federal and local law

[errant wyvern]

The Geneva convention technically doesn't allow gas

[rare imp]

alongside department policies

[errant wyvern]

But gas is one of the most common pacification tools in the US

[hoary eagle]

Damn.

[errant wyvern]

Granted it's not highly poisonous corrosive gas, it's an irritant.

[hoary eagle]

Germany also thought shotguns violated human rights

[quiet fulcrum]

"bUt tHe gEnEVa COnVenTiOn☝️🤓"
shut the fuck up

[errant wyvern]

Sure, just ignore the gas chambers and flamethrowers.

The literal real world example of the guy who uses the overpowered character throwing a tantrum when someone else uses an equally overpowered character.

[runic aspen]

non leathal gas

[errant wyvern]

Technically "less lethal."

[runic aspen]

yeah

[errant wyvern]

Some people with a fragile constitution or certain disabilities can still suffer adverse effects.

It wouldn't be advisable to use it on someone's grandma for example.

[runic aspen]

true

but there is a diffrence from gassing people agaisnt their will and killing them than law inforcement.

[errant wyvern]

Well obviously

But there really is no such thing as an effective and still completely nonlethal deterrent

[glacial tulip]

I love to gas everything, its so easy to get S

[hoary eagle]

I literally used geneva convention to promote death

[runic aspen]

the geneva convention is some bs

worse is the us special forces ROE

[glacial tulip]

while they used flamethrower 💀

[runic aspen]

shotguns caused unessary pain and suffering, especially when they were loaded with birdshot.

[hoary eagle]

America used that too to be fair.

[hoary eagle]

Explain

[runic aspen]

one sec lemme find the story.

it was a shitshow just beacuase of their ROE.

so

for more context read lone surivor

[tired oxide]

They violate your life force as well. in a most violent manner. Dont need no rights when your head has been made into a canoe.

[tired oxide]

Nobody loads a shotgun with “birdshot” in a war zone.

[runic aspen]

but these opertives are called to this remote village on a mission to kill a high ranking officer of Al-Qiadia, they incounter some sheep herders on their way down the mountain to the village. They are faced with a challenge to either, kill them, realease them, or keep them tied up, they deiced to realease them, and they almost instnaly go to snitch to the 400 terriosts in the village, effectilvy fucking them over.

[hoary eagle]

If there was something heavier than buck I'd load that. People shot ig lol

[tired oxide]

Shotguns are designed for close engagements, so you don’t want to wound someone with a gun in a close proximity battle environment. Why? Well bc he’s gonna shoot back and probably kill you.

[hoary eagle]

This sounds similar to a situation in generation kill.

[runic aspen]

close to it

[tired oxide]

There is. Tungsten and Bismuth are heavier than lead

[hoary eagle]

No wait it's almost word for word with another one

[hoary eagle]

I mean bigger pellets

[runic aspen]

theres also a movie

great book great movie

[hoary eagle]

Exactly.

[tired oxide]

Well u can use a slug.

[hoary eagle]

Ik what you're talking about

[runic aspen]

too expensive

[hoary eagle]

Can't remember the movie tho. Didn't it have mark walburg or something

[runic aspen]

yeah

[tired oxide]

Wait for what?

[hoary eagle]

Inbetween slug and pelet

[runic aspen]

slugs, just use cut shells

[tired oxide]

We are talking about a life or death situation right?

[hoary eagle]

I wanna put bigger holes in someone

[tired oxide]

There’s something called a Flechette round

[runic aspen]

yeah

[tired oxide]

That’s basically a bunch of sharp asf darts

[runic aspen]

expensive too but effective

more so than slugs

[hoary eagle]

Works

[faint wigeon]

Why isnt it just a ball of metal or smth

[hoary eagle]

Than why does flechett suck so bad in helldivers?

[tired oxide]

Nobody’s gonna be worried about the price when there’s a life or death scenario in process that should be the very least of your concerned

[runic aspen]

a ball of metal is hard to machine in llarge numbers

[tired oxide]

lol

[hoary eagle]

Honestly it's so ehhhhh. It made me want to make a real power fantasy game.

[faint wigeon]

Bcus ur shooting aliens and terminators

[runic aspen]

exactly

[hoary eagle]

But the terminators have weak heads and seemingly don't know what bullet proof glass is

[runic aspen]

just like bomb the hell out of these planets

thats one thing i dont understand

[faint wigeon]

Yeah probably for the aliens but the robots probably got some crazy air defense

[runic aspen]

...

multirole fighters

what the hell happened in the early days of the middle east wars?

we knocked out all of their SAMS and AAA, meaning we could bomb the hell out of them

[hoary eagle]

This is another thing. I dislike the in and out nature of helldivers 2. Especially the short mission timer

I'd legit love it if it was really on a planetary scale with moving battle lines and shit

[runic aspen]

helldivers 3😎

[hoary eagle]

My project is in a way helldivers 3 on a small scale. As small as a continent can be.

Too many ideas ig but I'm gonna at least blow people away with animations

[runic aspen]

yeah

[hoary eagle]

Animations i can do. If I somehow get funding and interest than yk

[waxen dome]

Ready or Not

[runic aspen]

the question is, are you ready?

[hoary eagle]

Never not ready

[runic aspen]

ready to go to bed

its 3 am 😭

[hoary eagle]

Bro you are not a cop sleep properly

[glacial tulip]

Dw its not that bad

[harsh edge]

Sleep is for nerds

[hoary eagle]

I is nerd

[harsh edge]

Tf you doin awake then kekw

It'd 2307

[harsh edge]

I wanna make a game that's like reverse MGS where you gotta control an attack team sent after 1+ intruders once attack starts, setting up traps/security before hand to make the attack teams job easier once fighting starts

Highest difficulty American Extreme

[hoary eagle]

Euro extreme

[harsh edge]

Bro you ever play mgs2 on euro extreme

The differences are insanity

[hoary eagle]

I like the idea. So is it like an rts. Or tac shooter? Or you swap between dudes on the fly as you see fit?

[hoary eagle]

Haven't even installed it yet

Going through 1. And 3.

I'm weird.

[harsh edge]

RTS to set up traps and security before the attack phase. Attack phase is a tac shooter unless the threat becomes barricaded or takes hostages then it's back to RTS to make the decision of how to proceed. Like an evolving scenario simulator.

Move direct to threat and deal with threat, it ends there. If the attack phase lasts too long he may hunker down in a protected position or take hostages.

Call in more backup and starve him out, gas him out, try to breach or negotiate, back to tac shooter once action phase resumes

[hoary eagle]

Also why did rockstar use off brand names for guns that are over a century old? The copyright would have expired decades ago lol

[harsh edge]

It's INSANITY. I've never beaten mgs2 on EE

[hoary eagle]

Gee. How much harder is it?

[harsh edge]

You have 30 HP. Enemy detection range is like 30% further than on extreme. No rations spawn naturally. Every boss except Fatman has attacks that can one shot. TWENTY FIVE MG RAYS in the ray rush at the end game

[hoary eagle]

25!?

What the fuck

[harsh edge]

https://www.metalgearspeedrunners.com/wiki/doku.php?id=mgs2_difficulty_differences

Look at that shit bro

[hoary eagle]

Why didn't we get euro extreme in mgs5?

The game could have been so much more fun

And challenging

[harsh edge]

Agreed

Part of the trend of making games easier. Being difficult isn't fun anymore sadly

Like you play the new splinter cell games? They're a joke compared to the trilogy

[hoary eagle]

Chaos theory is a must for me.

[hoary eagle]

Wdym by the second bit?

[harsh edge]

Like a lot of people complain when games are hard

The audience for gaming anymore doesn't take pride in overcoming a challenge by mastering the game anymore.

[hoary eagle]

At least ron doesn't compromise on being tough

[harsh edge]

Difficulty in gaming was an interesting thing conceptually

Originally it was arcade games to eat your quarters. Difficulty was profitable

Then Difficulty spikes usually in the middle of games was necessary so games couldn't beaten over a rental period

[hoary eagle]

Even the early levels twist my balls

[harsh edge]

Then difficulty became more fair in the name of challenging players

Now it's fading away in the brain rot generation

[hoary eagle]

Yeah. Kinda started around 2005 to be fair

Probably earlier

We need to make games hard again

[harsh edge]

Remember ps1 games having that unnaturally hard (especially compared to what came before it) section right in the middle? Didn't realize until recently it was an anti rental strat

[hoary eagle]

Makes sense now. Though in from soft games that's just from soft being from soft. Even back then.

[harsh edge]

Syphon Filter 1 rhoemers base my beloved

Syphon Filter needs love it's such a shame it fizzled so hard

They never got back to that peak they reached with SF2

[hoary eagle]

I'm refering to specifically armoured core to be fair

[harsh edge]

To be fair it also made it a lot farther than the creators of Bubzy 3d ever should've

[hoary eagle]

The first game is a filter to the whole franchise lol

[harsh edge]

Sony saw how impressive Bubzy was at the technical specs level and said "...let's give them an honest chance"

[hoary eagle]

What is that btw?

[harsh edge]

!?!?!?

It was MGS1s biggest competitor!

[hoary eagle]

Oh

Never heard of it tbh

I'm more farmilar with thief the dark project

[harsh edge]

A stealth action shooter involving a virus that targets specific group of people falls into the hands of terrorists and it turns out the government is involved and you're just the pawn they sent in to clean it up

[hoary eagle]

Why did they even bother tho? Ps1 wasn't even half as powerful as the n64.

You literally could never have anything approaching star fox on ps1

Donkey kong country. Mario 64

Ps1 had some killer 2d games tho

Also on that note I think a lot of ps 1 games would have benefited from the n64's power

Imagine if from soft did proto demon's souls on the n64. Shit would be crazy

[faint wigeon]

Man i love nerding out abt video games but you guys are old as hell😭 my first console was the xbox 360

[hoary eagle]

Oh bro bro. I didn't even play n64 or ps1 when I was little. I was a ps2 kid. I was born in 2002. I don't even have sentience until 2006

[faint wigeon]

Sentience 😭

I feel like everyone should be sentient by like 3

i think 3 is when you form a thought for the first time

[glacial void]

you can still get s rank killing someone as long as it isnt unauthorized, right?

[faint wigeon]

Nope

Cant kill anyone

use beanbag shotgun

[glacial void]

I could have sworn you can still get the s, ah well

Also feel like beanbag is more lethal than gas lol

[faint wigeon]

Gas works too

[hoary eagle]

I was 4 at the end of 06

[faint wigeon]

i was still swimmin around in 06

with my trillions of friends

[hoary eagle]

Child

[faint wigeon]

not a child :(

[hoary eagle]

Adult who I am senior to

[faint wigeon]

Ur like what 22-23? Time to start planning retirement old man

ur golden days are over 😔

How many gray hairs u got

[harsh edge]

Bubzy was made in a shoestring budget, that's why it's specs were so impressive. It was pushing ps1 to it's limits and they did it with not a lot of cash

One of the worst games of all time

But it showed Sony 989 Studios had the potential

Imo one of the best examples of "see the potential in people and give them a chance" as Syphon Filter was a juggernaut on the PS1

Often considered one of its most underrated titles, sadly overshadowed by MGS1

Unfortunately it fizzles after the 2nd game. SF3 releases on the ps1 despite the ps2 already being out. Omega Strain is more appreciated now than it was on release, but being a mostly online title in 2003 wasn't a good look on the ps2

Dark Mirror is considered one of the PSPs better titles, but once again lives in the shadow of MGS (PO/PW), and Logans Shadow was the last title, also on the PSP, and is considered good, but failed to reach a broad audience

UwU

[gaunt holly]

PSP was too ahead of its time

[harsh edge]

I still have my psp I love that little brick

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/yapping-yapping-level-today-catastrophic-yapanese-gif-13513208407930173397

[harsh edge]

Just picked a dude up on a DUI warrant

He was DUI

Stay in school kids

[gaunt holly]

Smh

[harsh edge]

Ask him to step out of the car, smell hits me right away and he almost trips over himself

"Dude no way. Have you been drinking tonight?

Suspect: 😔👍

[gaunt holly]

Smh!

[harsh edge]

UwU

[jolly trench]

question

[harsh edge]

Answer

[jolly trench]

why do police call them "suspects" when its obvious they did it

there is nothing to suspect

[harsh edge]

Because until they're convicted they're suspects :P. They're perps once they're convicted

I usually just call them all assholes tbh

[jolly trench]

is that like, part of the teaching? i cant imagine it matters that much what you call them

[harsh edge]

Were taught the difference yeah but it doesn't really matter

[dim peak]

that’s honestly one of my issues with the game - i feel like the distinction between suspect and civilian is too explicit

i know swat 4 did it but that game is old

it’d be neat if you didn’t know if they were a suspect or civ till you arrested them

rn suspects and civs have completely different and distinguishable VA behaviour etc and you immediately know which is which

[hoary eagle]

At least 1

[jolly trench]

not always

really the only exception is the homeless maps like dorms

where the suspects and civs use the same models and have similar lines

[dim peak]

yeah which is why imo it doesnt always make sense for LSPD to be able to immediately tell who's who

leviathan has suspects with no weapons at all but we still treat them like suspects

it's just a little offputting

[hollow herald]

kind of sucks almost all of these mods are broken

[twin panther]

where are you getting the mods from?

[jolly trench]

theres plenty of mods

i have like 30 installed rn

[hoary eagle]

I'm on the spider. Wish me luck on my sanity

[dense python]

Easy map
Be careful on the roof tho

[hoary eagle]

Roof got me lol

[dense python]

🐟

[hoary eagle]

Do I loose points for incapacitating them or nah?

[dense python]

Incapacitated and dead suspects give you 5 points
Alive suspects give 35 points

[hoary eagle]

I lost my first friendly officer...

Man.....

[dense python]

rip

[hoary eagle]

Died again

From the guy bellow the stair well

[hoary eagle]

Is there a way to just, not bring other officers?

They get int he way more than they help tbh

[solid cape]

Hold them on spawn

[dense python]

You can give them the "move to" command
Until you tell them to do something else they won't move from wherever you told them to go
If thats what you're asking

[hoary eagle]

Ngl. One suspect's groaning was annoying me so much I had legit considered crashing out.

[gaunt holly]

😲

[harsh edge]

UwU

8 DUI arrests in just under 4 months

[pure cairn]

suspect aaaaaaaaaaa for 9 minutes

[harsh edge]

Goin for mothafuckin top gun 😎

Fuckin street sweeper babyyyyyt

[hoary eagle]

How the fuck do I tell which door is and isn't trapped lol?

[pure cairn]

peeking it, there's a wire near the floor if its trapped

or you can get your AI SWAT to check it

[waxen latch]

@fallen sail this you but chad version

or am i tripping

[prime trout]

New to the discord just saying hi

[dense python]

meow

[livid palm]

Does this game have a steep learning curve?, just going through the training of this game I feel like I’m going to be awful

[hoary eagle]

Okay so a trap went off even tho there was literally no wire there wtf

[dim peak]

if you have previous fps experience and play carefully i wouldn't say it's too bad

[livid palm]

Just did the first mission, definitely still getting used to it

[twin panther]

No just learn the basics for those that wanna play that way if your gonna play with people often. if your doing solo there is no right way it is just do as you go and use common sense

[livid palm]

Definitely want to play with people but don’t want to burden anyone so running solos to get a hang of it… was torn between this and six days but this player base seemed more developed

[twin panther]

Im down to help ya out whenever if ya wanted to run some DUO or 4 man lol

[livid palm]

Hell yeah I appreciate that, I’m icepack_jack on steam

[coarse terrace]

Gratr is the Chad version

[twin panther]

#🔎looking-for-players @livid palm

[coarse terrace]

The one you sent is the chud version

[waxen latch]

lmao

[tulip reef]

Anyone ever had their whole ai team have blue glowsticks before? Even my judge has a blue glowstick

[dense python]

Yes
We ran out of other colors
So

[tulip reef]

Hahaha

But Fr is this a common bug or something? Cause the game keeps putting on heavy armour on my team when I didn't ask for it

[dense python]

Well
I've never experienced these
Dont know if they are common or not

[coarse terrace]

What

[harsh edge]

[halcyon ocean]

If you're referring to @dense python message, I'll answer for you:

Yeah, they actually are pretty common.

I've encountered enough to know.

[pliant briar]

you're wrong. i never encountered such issue (i only use heavy armor)

[pure cairn]

What does the user even mean

Im curious but too lazy to find out

[plain wedge]

hello everyone heart for you ❤️

[pure cairn]

Oh

[fallen sail]

this me irl feel free to screenshot

[lilac vale]

No

[fallen sail]

why

[lilac vale]

cause I have other stuff to screenshot

[fallen sail]

like what

[lilac vale]

A lot

[fallen sail]

nuh uh

[lilac vale]

Yuh uh

You are the least priority when it comes to screenshots

[fallen sail]

no im not :(

[lilac vale]

For me yes

For other people I can’t know

[austere oracle]

Every time gratr graces my screen I mash prt scn

[fallen sail]

fr

patrick wouldnt know

[runic aspen]

I haven’t played this game in months

[wraith dune]

dont

games horrible without mods and 90% of the mods dont even work

[lilac vale]

Don’t know about that last part but sure

[faint wigeon]

Me when i lie

[wraith dune]

game is so bland

3 of the mods i downloaded make my game corrujpt

2 of which r on the first 2

Mayube not 90% i was exaggerating but Good Lord

[lilac vale]

And that is 90% of the mods? Damn

[covert rampart]

I'm trynna help them with it rn

If mod creators didnt just give up on their mods and any outdated/discontinued mods got removed then we wouldnt have this issue

[faint wigeon]

Yeah so usually your supposed to check if its outdated or not, also 3 mods are 90%??

[raven stream]

mate don't bother with that specimen, he's clearly a troll

[covert rampart]

Y'all chill, I would be pissed too honestly, I'm helping them with it in #🔧modding-chat and DM's

[raven stream]

good for u

[covert rampart]

Not a troll though?

[raven stream]

I wasn't even referring to you but to saken

[covert rampart]

I know, but thats what I'm saying, they're not trying to troll just pissed

[wraith dune]

'clearly' a troll

you're very illiterate and have horrible judging skills

[wanton musk]

hey no mean >:(

[lilac vale]

Uhmmmm mean

[wanton musk]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-ban-banned-papers-please-glory-to-discord-mods-gif-27431340

[harsh edge]

They don't work because mods need updates after major game updates

That's the fault of mod makers not the game

If the code of a mod relies on "x=1" and a major title updates changes that relevant code to "x=1.1" the mod won't work until it's updated

[wraith dune]

R there any mods to remove the swat AI

[lilac vale]

‘ No police’ on nexus mods

[wraith dune]

not showing up

[lilac vale]

Remove police

[raven stream]

oh no, how am I going to live with myself knowing your opinion now

[covert rampart]

Guys guys guys

let's calm down

Eat a moonpie

Drink a 7-UP

[hollow compass]

the stress system is gonna make me crash out

[covert rampart]

Eat a snickers bar

[rigid bone]

[covert rampart]

You're not you when you're hungry

[hollow compass]

dont have any 😔

[covert rampart]

Time to fix that

[harsh edge]

@rigid bone

Kami senpai

Big dawg

[gusty stump]

🦈

[dense python]

🦈🦈

[plucky dirge]

shark

[dense python]

sharrrr

[gusty stump]

rawr

[quiet fulcrum]

y'all should be locked up in the container

[vale shell]

deep in my solitude
where hopes and dreams gets parted
goes to the toilet to shit but only farted
trusted a fart but only shitted

[normal sinew]

oh my god how can a games servers be so bad

[calm sorrel]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[spiral sonnet]

Does anyone play Squad? Im looking for people to play

[real umbra]

Been learning more about the RoN lore and i must say this game keeps impressing me how well written everything is

[lilac vale]

But why

[runic aspen]

Cuz I dont have the game and wanna get it

[lilac vale]

If you can get from Steam then shouldn't that be the ovbs answer?

[covert rampart]

its on sale right now along with the DLC's I would take advantage

[runic aspen]

I can spend maximum 30$

[lilac vale]

Perfect enough for base game

[covert rampart]

I would just get the base game on steam, better that way

home invasions only $6 right now with base game being $30

[dense python]

🐟

[gusty stump]

🦈

[dense python]

🦈🦈rawr

[plucky dirge]

sharks dont rawr

[dense python]

lies

[gusty stump]

rawrr

[dusk gull]

tell that to sharkbite victims and their rawr related PTSD

[stable bloom]

rawr xd

(i hate myself)

[normal sinew]

they do from now on

[plucky dirge]

no

[alpine moat]

Proof to support your claim

[plucky dirge]

they do sounds like

blub

[lilac vale]

Anyone know where the dead body is on Yacht map?

[coarse terrace]

Kitchen or maintenance

[lilac vale]

It wasnt in either freezers

Was in the engine room

[normal sinew]

dude what are these dogass servers

are they made out of straws or something?

[night oxide]

No this is a skill issue

[slender depot]

wsg

[normal sinew]

fix these servers i am BEGGING you holy shit

[slender depot]

any1 wanna run up sum ron im kinda new to it still tho lol

[lilac vale]

#🔎looking-for-players

[slender depot]

oh mb

i js joined

[lilac vale]

no worries

[plucky dirge]

2:30 more hours at work

today felt like a fucking eternity

[dense python]

🦐

[rugged plank]

Yp

[dense python]

‎

[finite elk]

Is game still getting update? Like the bi weekly Friday briefing an stuff? Cause game still needs update

[quiet ocean]

toc, we have a container full of mods

[gaunt holly]

Yes, iirc they're working on big stuff

[quiet ocean]

we need pay here asap

[calm swift]

what does "unoffical score" mean?

am i able to get unlocks iwth that?

[dense python]

Yes

[calm swift]

okay thank you

[fierce crane]

How do you go from A+ to S rating on missions, less-lethal and no maiming?

[quiet fulcrum]

nah the devs are done

[obtuse raptor]

Hello, can somebody help me?

I just bought Ready or Not on Steam for my PC

I open the game, click singleplayer, and I got to a black loading screen. The screen gets to 100% and then freezes. I can't move my mouse, and it stays like that and nothing loads.

Is this a common issue? I only just bought it and I haven't even been able to try playing it

Please may someone assist me

[covert rampart]

Does it eventually load in or does it not load in at all

[obtuse raptor]

Nope

Max I've left it is like 4 minutes and nothing happens at all

I haven't even got a chance to play this damn game

[covert rampart]

So your first time is gonna take quite some time to load in due to the assets of the game and graphic shaders, are you still loading or did you quit it?

[pliant briar]

it means the score is unofficial. which means absolutely nothing outside of comparing these scores with other people

[covert rampart]

I've had this game for over 3 years yet I still take time to load in sometimes

[pliant briar]

gpu driver update tends to do that (it clears all shader cache)

[covert rampart]

Dang nvidia

"Hey we're gonna release a new driver update and not tell you at all"

[pliant briar]

they don't update automatically

[calm swift]

oh right, got it, thank you

[obtuse raptor]

How long should it be stuck on 100% for? The reason I close it after 2 minutes is because my mouse also gets stuck in one position so I can tell the game is freezing

[covert rampart]

It can get stuck for 5-6 minutes you just gotta give it time, if it doesnt continue to load it and it crashes then you should load it in Direct 11

[dense python]

If you want to get an S rank
You have to use non lethal
None of the suspects or civilians should die or get incapacitated
You have to secure every evidence
Complete every soft objective
bla bla

[pliant briar]

is your game on a hdd?

[obtuse raptor]

That's another point - how should I load it? I've just been opening ready or not, but when I open it from steam, it gives me a whole list of options on how to load it...

[obtuse raptor]

How do I check? what does that mean

It allows me to either Direct 12, Direct 11, Safe Mode (No Mods) or Clean Mods (Save Data)

[covert rampart]

Your first step is to load it in Direct 12 through steam launch options, and direct 11 is for if you have issues with the performance in direct 11

[obtuse raptor]

So I should just use Direct 12

[covert rampart]

yes start with that

Wait, have you been loading it through the .exe?

[obtuse raptor]

What is direct 11? Is it just a lower performing version

yeah before I've just been opening the app on my pc but ill do it through steam now

[covert rampart]

Thats probably why, try steam it should work better

[obtuse raptor]

Ok it's loading up the app now

Should I choose singleplayer?

[pliant briar]

no, it's an older graphics api that makes the game show pixels on your monitor

[covert rampart]

^

[pliant briar]

neither is better or worse, they serve different purposes

[covert rampart]

Singleplayers what a lot of people start on

I recommend Singleplayer and then "Quick Play" so you can get used to the game

[pliant briar]

if devs are competent and you have modern components dx12 should almost always be better though

[covert rampart]

Commander Mode is just RONS "story mode"

[pliant briar]

it's not story mode

[covert rampart]

Thats why I said quote, "story mode"

[pliant briar]

it's team management mode

half assed and absolutely not worth it unless you want certain achievements

[obtuse raptor]

I've opened quick play, and I'm now on a black screen which says 'Commander' at the top left and '100%' on the top right but my mouse is completley frozen

and i cant switch from chrome discord to the app because its evidently struggling

[covert rampart]

Yeah thats normal

[obtuse raptor]

Oh fr?

[pliant briar]

chrome user spotted. evacuation necessary

[obtuse raptor]

So how long before I give up

[covert rampart]

Let it load in, its all the assets of the game loading in properly

[pliant briar]

that's not normal wdym

[mental aspen]

whaddya use?

[obtuse raptor]

I'm in a lot of roleplay communites that require lots of flicking back and forth from google docs and google sheets pages and stuff

HOLY COW IT LOADED

[covert rampart]

You're telling me getting stuck at 100% in ready or not is not normal?

[obtuse raptor]

BYE BYE YALL THANK YOU

[covert rampart]

You're welcome enjoy

[tepid geyser]

thats crazy

[pliant briar]

you can use these sites on any modern browser

[covert rampart]

I use chrome for windows whats wrong with that

[pliant briar]

it's chrome. pretty self explanatory

[tepid geyser]

[covert rampart]

Not if you have a good PC

[pliant briar]

second worst browser, the first one being opera gx

[covert rampart]

It does the job for me, no loading either, now chrome is shitty on my apple computer which is why for that I use Firefox

[pliant briar]

and you can't even block ads properly on chrome now

absolutely disgusting

[covert rampart]

Lol I have an ad blocker on chrome that blocks every ad I ever come into contact with

It even skips the ads on spotify

[pliant briar]

doubt

it doesn't have manifest v2 anymore

[covert rampart]

Oh yeah? I'll happily record a video of it skipping through the 4-5 ads when I listen to music

I use "uBlock Origin"

[mental aspen]

what browser do you recommend?

[pliant briar]

brave or firefox, whatever suits you better

[pliant briar]

well, it looks like you can make it work on chrome until june of this year

after that no more proper ad blocking for you

[runic aspen]

wonder if my friends stolen motorcycle is here

[hallow idol]

i have a love hate relationship with this game

[viscid heart]

I use Brave to block ads. Bye bye YouTube ads

dont even need Ublock on Brave

[lean vapor]

why is opera bad

opera and ublock

no ads not even on youtube

[glacial tulip]

My reels are weird, they gave me content I didnt expect to see

[gaunt holly]

Mine is full of spuds

Spuds and pizzas

[coarse terrace]

Firefox best browser

[pliant briar]

you don't, but ublock origin is still superior

[pliant briar]

unfortunately not the best for your average joe

[pliant briar]

read operagx's privacy policy

[viscid heart]

perhaps. but for my needs Brave does just fine currently

[simple turret]

its chinese and doesnt remove any of the default google tracking or information harvesting on top of adding chinese tracking and information harvesting

[pliant briar]

better have any adblock than none

[viscid heart]

idk about that. Brave does pretty good

[pliant briar]

as long as it's trusted (the ones under adblock brand aren't btw)

[viscid heart]

and idk if ublock is compatible with brave

[pliant briar]

yes it is

it runs on chromium

[viscid heart]

yeah. looks like it was not available on the older versions of Brave tho according to Brave Support

[pliant briar]

the only major browsers that don't work with it are safari and chrome(soon)

also any chromium based browser that doesn't support manifest v2

but they aren't major so who cares

[simple turret]

qutebrowser my beloved

[obtuse raptor]

Will I get bored of Ready or Not? I don't know how many singleplayer missions there are or if there's anything to do other than singleplayer missions, but surely theres only a limited amount of maps they can make?

[pliant briar]

not sure what you mean

you can get bored in any game

[obtuse raptor]

I know but this is mission based

[pliant briar]

and ready or not is no exception

[obtuse raptor]

Surely they can only make like 20 maps and after that theres nothing to doo

[pliant briar]

18 missions in base game

[obtuse raptor]

wdym bse game

do u need to pay for more

so i paid 36 bucks just to play 18 minigames and then theres nothing else to do??

[pliant briar]

yesn't, you can play dlc maps with other people as long as the host owns them

[obtuse raptor]

i see

thats a shame

[pliant briar]

tbf ready or not gave me more hours of "fun" than kcd2

but i also hate replaying story games so there's that

[simple turret]

if youre the kind of person to just run the maps once and thats it you can beat the game in like 2-4 hours easily and never touch it again, at which point no its really not worth it

but if you like replaying levels and enjoy the mechanics of the game you can get hundreds of hours out of it

[pliant briar]

excuse me but what mechanics

[simple turret]

the mechanics where i run through crack house with a shotgun and explode people at will

[pliant briar]

oh these ones

i recently started playing helldivers 2 and it's amazing how satisfying blowing things up is

not so much in ready or not when you know every ai reaction

[simple turret]

helldivers gets kind of bland when you can run super helldives without dying

still fun with frens though, as is ron

[pliant briar]

sometimes i can't die at all and sometimes i die like 5 times a mission

[simple turret]

theres a lot of variation at each difficulty tbh, sometimes 7 can feel like 10 and 10 can feel like 4 lol

[mental aspen]

sounds like someone needs a harder loadout, every so often i spice it up with random stratagems and weapons id normally never use, usually ends up with me getting my shit rocked but it gets some variety and fun back

[simple turret]

yeah tbh i need to play around more

[pliant briar]

iirc the individual enemy stats doesn't scale with the difficulty so it's weird

[mental aspen]

yeah i was grinding super credits earlier today, in trivial missions, so 1, and i had a trooper john wick me more than once, felt so embarrassing

[pliant briar]

unless planet defense has stronger enemies i guess

[simple turret]

humble credit farmer reminds me i need to farm for the new bond i want the suicide backpack

[mental aspen]

i think they do to some degree, like in 4 missions, most rocket devastators spawn with only two rockets in their shoulders, while in helldives and such theyre fully loaded with 6 or 7

[pliant briar]

the recent global event fori prime enemies weren't even that bad

[mental aspen]

one of my friends just got it, i cannot wait to run up behind him and set it off

[pliant briar]

and from what i've seen they are a lot harder(?)

[mental aspen]

predator enemies?

i havent been paying attention to major order fori prime might not even be bugs

[pliant briar]

you mean the ones with cloak?

oh wait, i think the mutation was called predator something

[mental aspen]

sorta, the gloom infused some more bugs with more abilities, which are predator variants, stalkers have cloak by standard, but now you can find predators that have cloak, armor, bile spew all at once

i am not a bug fighter

[pliant briar]

no clue really, not that deep into that game yet. pretty sure they have the same health no matter the difficulty though

so the extra difficulty is mostly about stronger units + more of enemies in general

[lean vapor]

i don’t care abt my data really as long as its not outright hacking me

[pliant briar]

bro willingly chose to be spied on

[pliant briar]

definitely in the minority

[simple turret]

well because its an adversarial nation state if we were to ever actually go to war against them you have given them direct access to your system for use against you and your country (a browser isnt as bad as say a chinese game with a kernel level anticheat, but still)

[gaunt holly]

Cheat to win

[harsh edge]

UwU

[pliant briar]

but i feel like automatrons would be a lot more enjoyable to deal with, a bit more tactics than just spamming with a shotgun i suppose?

[mental aspen]

ik, when i was newer to the game, i thought bugs were easier and better so i stayed with them, but once i unlocked helldive and started playing with friends, automatons all the way every single time, maybe its my preferred playstyle, i dont want 100 bugs in my face constantly

[pliant briar]

at least you have the choice, unless you're forced to by a global event i think?

[mental aspen]

actually getting to use long range weapons is great, same with explosives, i love the purifier so much, but its useless against bugs, as ill just blow myself up

[mental aspen]

well you always have the option to do either, but youre sorta pressured to do the order

the illuminates on the other hand sometimes go away with other major orders

[rigid bone]

[glacial tulip]

[rigid bone]

Remember, if you're on the internet at all, anyone who wants it already has your data

[pliant briar]

why do you have my data you creep

[glacial tulip]

I actually dont mind...got nothing much to hide

[pliant briar]

:-(

[rigid bone]

'Anyone who wants it'

I want nothing about you, Niv

[glacial tulip]

That is mean

[mental aspen]

i think the idea of being spied on hurt less than that

[pliant briar]

bro is anything but nice with me

[glacial tulip]

I am sorry niv 😦

[ivory python]

[mental aspen]

:

[runic aspen]

Love ya niv 🙂

[pliant briar]

but he's always here when i say anything inappropriate because of my social cluelessness

[pliant briar]

from what i've seen they feel very unfinished

too bad they seem to be the most powerful enemy in the lore

[mental aspen]

im sure theyll develop them more, i mean, the factory strider and that tentacle bug werent initially in the game, and the predators

[pliant briar]

initially i thought they were recently introduced

but they are here since hd1

[runic aspen]

Is it worth it

[crude lake]

That was cold blooded murder

[waxen latch]

El gato

[gaunt holly]

$26 cheeseburger or RoN? Tough choice

[runic aspen]

Ready or not

[iron urchin]

Guys should i get ready or not?

[runic aspen]

YES

[hallow idol]

YES

[iron urchin]

My friend says no because "The npc's have aimbot"

[runic aspen]

So techinically we have aimbot in reality

[iron urchin]

I say it's a skill issue

[runic aspen]

It is if you cant shoot an NPC

I texted you in private

Go there

[iron urchin]

I know and i'm not doing that

[runic aspen]

Oh

Okey

[hallow idol]

npcs can be really annoying but you will learn

youshould get it

[wide lava]

SO when new update ?

[hallow idol]

lmao

[dense python]

Tomorrow

[hallow idol]

whats coming with the new update

[lean vapor]

🗣️

[little chasm]

GUYS Chould i buy Ready or Not

[hallow idol]

YES

ive had it since beta, its so good

besides the heart attacks

[little chasm]

oK OK the only thing i need is money

damn

[hallow idol]

yeah

[tepid olive]

yeah just got it for the first time too

waiting for it to download

[hallow idol]

i love it

[tepid olive]

been playing Six days in fallujah and BHD

[little chasm]

damn

[little chasm]

i tried six days in falluja but the colors didnt work

so i refound it

[tepid olive]

bhd is really good and free

[little chasm]

whats bjd

[tepid olive]

blawk hawk down from delta force

[little chasm]

is it good?

[tepid olive]

until you get the $ for ready or not

I liked it

[little chasm]

yeah i amworking this week to get paid so i can buy it

but the problem is...

i dont know if i may even get paid

[tepid olive]

hell yeah we can get some games in, I'll be fresh too.

[little chasm]

lets goo

add me

[tepid olive]

download some Black hawk down its free we can run some together.

[little chasm]

i will tell u if i got paid, if not i may ask my stepdad

[little chasm]

doing it

[viscid roost]

[tepid olive]

[dense python]

ready

[tepid olive]

or

[dense python]

not

[little chasm]

guys

[mental aspen]

that hurt

[little chasm]

wait for me

[sleek turret]

cubano?

[little chasm]

yes?

[sleek turret]

u speak spanish too

[little chasm]

ofc

[sleek turret]

que bola

[dense python]

hello

[little chasm]

que ola we

[unique moon]

are there any more dlc's planned?

[sweet idol]

muñanyo

[gaunt holly]

Rumour has it that the next one is free

[unique moon]

fr?

[gaunt holly]

Maybe 🤔

[unique moon]

🔥

[rigid bone]

I wouldn't really call it a rumor when I said it straight up so

[drowsy warren]

please i beg no more achievments im trying to keep my 100 percent

[dense python]

Complete the mission by using nothing but breach shotgun
no vest
no helmet
In 2 minutes

[rigid bone]

Prepare to suffer in || ... zero to ten months.||

[raven stream]

there can never be enough achievements

[sleek turret]

lol

[sleek turret]

nesecito jugar con gente que hable español

[dense python]

Color variations for bdrtac vest when

[wanton musk]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-oh-brother-this-guy-stinks-this-guy-stinks-spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-meme-gif-19365861

[kind matrix]

Not liking the achievement based on having friends...15 suspects in 15 seconds is impossible solo.

[mental aspen]

Bold to out yourself like that

[kind matrix]

Not having friends? It's a badge of honor.

I'm a very likable guy...had to work hard at it.

[dense python]

You can play with randoms
Its so fun
Trust me

[kind matrix]

I've heard it's great. /s

[dense python]

Of course it is

[rigid bone]

It's not

It's perfectly doable solo

[deft idol]

I've only had good interactions with randoms, even when they have no mic

[kind matrix]

Some secret sauce? I mean, I'm no pro but no slouch and I can't get it.

[rigid bone]

Mainly baiting and area control

[hoary eagle]

Sorry to burst the bubble but reasearching into it the whole thing was a hoax. The guy didn't even shoot any rounds, get hurt much less participate in any fighting. Big flake. Plus the whole operation was a clusterfuck cause they didn't plan it out properly

[kind matrix]

Well, I'll keep at it.

[hoary eagle]

Anyways.

What is everyone's most hated map. Base, and dlc seperate

[deft idol]

The dark ass houses at the start

[kind matrix]

I don't hate any maps, just prefer certain ones.

Neon Tomb gave me the most trouble, but I don't hate the map

[mental aspen]

Valley of the dolls for base game, good lord that gave me a lot of early trouble, not the hardest ever, but the outside area hurt me so much, and the windows, so many areas that the ai can see through but you can’t
Home invasion, probably Dorms, nothing really wrong with it it’s just not as good as the other two
Dark Waters, definitely 3 letter triad, even with lethals that mission took me several attempts to beat, so much on your screen and it’s so dark it’s very difficult to get a good view on the suspects before you’re hit or killed

[kind matrix]

Yeah, 3 letter is brutal

[hoary eagle]

Cult shit?

[gusty stump]

Fellow BDRTAC user??

[kind matrix]

Funny...VotD is the map I replay the most

[deft idol]

Idk what it's called, but it's the one with the meth labs and the tunnels at the back, I haven't finished it in under 15 mins yet

[dense python]

🐟

[raven stream]

Twisted Nerve

[deft idol]

Yea that one

[kind matrix]

I enjoy the big maps: post office, used car dealership, port Hoken. Small, tight maps don't do much for me. The traps...ugh.

[gusty stump]

🦈

[dense python]

🦈🦈

[hoary eagle]

Yeah I know it are mission orders randomised ler saves?

[hoary eagle]

Lethal obsession

[mental otter]

is there a channel to find people to play with

[dense python]

#🔎looking-for-players

[mental otter]

thx

[kind matrix]

Indeed. At least there are a limited number of doors on that map. Brisa Cove though...wow.

[hoary eagle]

The door traps in LO are bullshit. Sometimes they don't even render

[kind matrix]

checks with wand "All clear" ting POW. Game over.

[deft idol]

Is brisa cove the one where it's a family in a house n the sons are making full auto switches? I like that one

[hoary eagle]

Does void have another game in the works or are they just gonna make more content for RON? No RON 2 at all?

[kind matrix]

No, BC is the map with all of the apt. suites...doors upon doors

[deft idol]

Ohh, yea fuck that one lmao

[mental aspen]

That’s kawayu beach I think

[kind matrix]

I find Kawayu kind of boring? Hate to say uninspired, but...

[mental aspen]

Ides of March, hurt my feelings in the first playthrough

[kind matrix]

Neon Tomb did that to me.