💬general-discussion

[runic aspen]

not necessarily

[visual thistle]

has graced us with his presence

[runic aspen]

dam

[fallen sail]

I dont agree that LTLs should be guaranteed surrenders, but them resisting at this point is so rare that i don't see the point

[runic aspen]

wtf is a ltl

[empty dove]

True would be too boring and repetitive

Less than lethal

[fallen sail]

On my S rank everyone hit by a taser or beanbag just gave up after the first hit

No mods, no commander mode bullshit

[novel patio]

Thats what void wants

[empty dove]

Yea same, apart from neon tomb, that's the only map where beanbag and taser was not working on the 1st shot especially on the boom boom guy xD

[somber prism]

I believe those who have supporter edition will get all DLCs for free

[empty dove]

It was supposed to be the first one only but they decided to give the second one aswell

[somber prism]

Bruh

[visual thistle]

god the payday soundtrack fits so well with this game

[empty dove]

But it might be the case with the next ones too who knows

[somber prism]

So future dlcs won't be free even for those with supporter edition

[empty dove]

We don't know for certain

[somber prism]

Hopefully that will be the case

[fallen sail]

Originally the Supporters were only supposed to get the first DLC for free, however since the first DLC wasn't an expansion (like they promised) and instead was a super tiny thing they're giving the second out free aswell

[waxen dome]

Are they doing anythging about the FPS drops with the latest update because my FPS got worse when 1.0 came out

Like a lot

[somber prism]

Damn

[empty dove]

I think that will come in the next update after the dlc 2

[somber prism]

Really hope those with the SE get at least several dlcs for free

[waxen dome]

Thank you Full Metal

[fallen sail]

I'd say SE support is about done

[somber prism]

Aw

We'll just have to see in the mere future ig

[fallen sail]

devs might do extra, they might not, but they've technically made the supporter deal whole

[somber prism]

Hopefully they do extra

The ost of the trailer for the new dlc lowkey goes hard

[novel patio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message - hmm yes gas seems to work perfectly.

She didnt die from that chest shot either

[visual thistle]

same thing happened to me earlier but instead of even getting the chance to shoot the guy the second he got out of the animation before his gun was even raised he summoned a bullet from the aether and i died

[novel patio]

Its gotten worse

its like the AI has managed to get even more stupid and broken

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

No body armour yet they dont die

[solid cape]

All suspects on sins have armor

[novel patio]

Sure be cool if their models reflected that.

Guess thats a bit much.

[mossy violet]

Hello, is there a chance the game will be 15 dollars in the steam winter sale?

[visual thistle]

prob closer to the 25-30 range

[mossy violet]

Wdym

[visual thistle]

dollars

[solid cape]

There sound and effect from hit. You can enable vest mesh on all armor types via mod if you want

but it's will looks odd on some models

[mossy violet]

The game is already 30 dollars

[visual thistle]

its 50?

[fallen sail]

No

[visual thistle]

idk where u live but its 50 dollars here in the us

[mossy violet]

No 29.99

[mossy violet]

İn Azerbaijan not

[visual thistle]

oh

uhh then idk

[novel patio]

2-3 buckshot rounds to the chest/neck plus one to the leg you are not standing up ever again

The player character certainly doesnt

[mossy violet]

Alr thx

[visual thistle]

its prob gonna be like 20ish percent off if i were to guess

[novel patio]

So why the fuck does the enemy get to

[mossy violet]

İf 30-35% off İn the New year sale I'll buy this game

There is have some RP servers?

[solid cape]

Played hold buckshot ammo just fine to the torso, unless you wear broken kevlar/steel

[solid cape]

Because of armor, buckshot wont pen any suspect's armor in game

[novel patio]

same for slugs

[solid cape]

if you take buckshot shoot to the limbs on maps like sins

[solid cape]

Slugs oneshot every suspect to the torso up to level 3 armor

[novel patio]

Right

[runic aspen]

what's the least armor peircing lethal bullet

other than buckshot

[novel patio]

slugs

[runic aspen]

least

slugs are built to peirce armor

[novel patio]

did void get the memo

[runic aspen]

he just said slugs peirce up to level three armor

[novel patio]

itd be the 9mm hollowpoint or whatever its called

[runic aspen]

i want something that cant wipe the dust off of level 1

[runic aspen]

hmm theres probably worse

[novel patio]

in game or irl

[runic aspen]

ingame

[novel patio]

Itd be the 9mm

[solid cape]

.45, 10mm or .357 JHP, none of them pen lowest tier level 2 armor

[runic aspen]

hmmm

time to .357 jhp magnum solo brisa cove or whatever

[empty dove]

We need more calibers not useless weapons ffs

[runic aspen]

what more do you need

subsonic?

military surplus?

[solid cape]

why do you need ammo that wont pen armor?

[novel patio]

shits and giggles be my guess

[runic aspen]

gits and shiggles

[empty dove]

.22 for the memes
.40 s&w
.380 auto
.357 sig

And actual 10mm not rebrand of the .45 acp

[runic aspen]

we need the .22 luger ong

[runic aspen]

isnt 10mm = .45 acp

same diameter atleast

[empty dove]

Yeah but slight difference like 10mm slightly stronger

[novel patio]

bleh

make no difference in game

[empty dove]

Due to velocity

[solid cape]

in game they have same damage stats, but different surface penetration and armor durability damage

[runic aspen]

all i need is a 50 beuowolf rifle thats all

and 50 ae deagle

[empty dove]

.22 and .380 auto would be funny though

[runic aspen]

Lowkey lowkey hear me out

.800 nitro express

[empty dove]

Bruh 50ae lmao

[runic aspen]

Goated round

[runic aspen]

yes i dont even want a deagle tbh i wanna make it like a 10 shot smg

[novel patio]

hmm

[runic aspen]

enough recoil to pull out a manhole that hasnt been moved in 10 years

[visual thistle]

can we have an option to like discard all other resources and just carry in like an rpg or a single brick of irl accurate c4

[marble spruce]

do you still have google sheets thing?

[empty dove]

Damn that's gonna hurt

[marble spruce]

cuz it really helpful

[solid cape]

Sure, here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

[marble spruce]

thank you man 👍

[runic aspen]

bruh the armor wont even do anything. its gonna be like a car slamming into you

[empty dove]

Yeah true lol

[runic aspen]

force dissapated or force contentrated doesnt matter when force approaches fucking infinity

Probably no armor would be better since less area of affect at that point

[empty dove]

You're gonna wish the bullet killed you so you would not die from trauma pain

[novel patio]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

The revolver puts someone on their ass more firmly than a fucking 12 gauge

[solid cape]

Just a fake death, can proc from all calibers

[novel patio]

yet 3 rounds of 12g to the chest don't do the same

[runic aspen]

all your organs just gonna get mushed together

[novel patio]

Do the women on carriers of the vine have armour?

[solid cape]

It's can, but chances of that is really low

[solid cape]

Yeap, level 2 and 3

[empty dove]

Yeah lmao

[novel patio]

Fuck LSPD should invest in this john wick bullshit bulletproof cloth

[empty dove]

🤣

[visual thistle]

pretty sure hacksmith actually did it and it worked suprisingly well and was accurate to the movies

[novel patio]

Seriously where the fuck is there armour

[visual thistle]

i think it stopped up to a 308.

[novel patio]

That is very interesting and i will have to look into that because it sounds awesome

but that is clearly not what the women on carriers of the vine are wearing

[visual thistle]

yeah idk, half the time the enemies are secretly wearing invisible bombsquad armor

[novel patio]

meanwhile me in my heavy armour - uwu pls dont shoot me with that pistol

[visual thistle]

to be fair though most the time im running full heavy with ceramics and a ballistic mask and i also can tank alot so eh

but theres def been some bs moments of me magdumping a guy just for him to shoot me twice and i die

[solid cape]

Steel users be like

[runic aspen]

bruh

0-10 KMPH in 12.9 seconds

[novel patio]

whats that

[runic aspen]

whats what

[novel patio]

0-10kmph

[visual thistle]

alr this is gonna sound real dumb but is there a way to check if enemies are gonna be armored or not before missions?

[novel patio]

Google

[fallen sail]

the briefing (lol no)

[novel patio]

Might be in the briefings

[fallen sail]

It's almost never in the briefing

[drowsy estuary]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=1721255639#gid=1721255639

[fallen sail]

Even though it absolutely SHOULD be

[novel patio]

of course not why would the briefing contain anything we need to know. give me their life stories instead

[visual thistle]

ty

[fallen sail]

literally

[runic aspen]

The time required to accelerate from a stationary speed up to 10 Kilometers per hour

i was referencing the 0-100 kmph times used for comparing cars

and drawing similarities to the time of a player with the Steel armor equipped, accelerating from 0 - 10, and an Average street car accelerating from 0-100

I was implying that users wearing steel heavy armor accelerate like underpowered street cars

[novel patio]

Just discovered the player can only survive 5 melee attacks with heavy armour equipped

5 shove attacks that is

you can only be gently nudged 5 times

[solid cape]

Armor does not protect from knife stabs or melee attacks

[novel patio]

Yea ive just noticed

[regal grotto]

Why is Rust Belt so fucked sometimes?

Bots had hard time coordinating to clear rooms

[novel patio]

broken ai and voids reluctance or inability to fix it

If i had to guess id pick the latter

[pulsar cape]

I have a problem with mods

i subscribed to all mods that i want on mod io inside the game and none of these is showing up wile playing

neither guns nor maps

[fallen sail]

mod.io doesnt work

[lilac vale]

at all and likley never will

[twin coral]

finally after 3 weeks I finished ideas of march with A

And I only lost 7 officers

[odd flicker]

Am still trying to complete

The most random tripwires kill me

And now my officer killed us all cuz he randomly opened a tripwires door

All officers dead

Restarting the missions takes so long too

[twin coral]

use mirrorgun

done

[pliant briar]

they will surely fix it in the next update! trust!

[odd flicker]

I cleared all suspects and was looking for the non existent music producer and a grenade spawned in a cleared doorway

I literally searched the whole place and the guy was nowhere

[crude lake]

Sounds like Kanyes daily routine

[pulsar cape]

so how can i install mods?

i installed from nexus and when i turn the game on then i have a info about corrupted files

[fallen sail]

Then you didn't read #❓modding-faq

[pulsar cape]

i didnt

[fallen sail]

You are running outdated mods from nexus, which don't work either

[pulsar cape]

so what mods can i run

[fallen sail]

Those updated after july 23rd

[lilac vale]

UMMM akshually it's 24th of JULY🤓

[crude lake]

Nah, its the 23rd.

[lilac vale]

NUH UH

[pulsar cape]

do you know any good pistol mod?

all nice guns from nexus are from 08 march 2024 so before july

[boreal ore]

There's the FN 509 Black mod.

And the Stacatto mod.

[fallen sail]

The pit viper was extremely fancy, however i'm unaware if it was updated

[lilac vale]

How'd you get this?

[fallen sail]

Keep in mind some gun mods have requirements that might stop you from playing online

[fallen sail]

What? The mod?

[lilac vale]

It's a quote from John Wick

[fallen sail]

💀 that's not a very specific quote

[lilac vale]

If you watched JW4 you would know it, besides the PIT Viper is from the movie

Not cultured Gratr.... smh

[fallen sail]

the viper doesn't only exist in the movie

[lilac vale]

but it was made famous from the movie

[fallen sail]

there's a reason the gun has legendary status in the movie

[lilac vale]

No one besides gun nuts would know about the Pit viper if it wasn't for JW silly

[fallen sail]

we need a prescottball emote

[lilac vale]

frr

[empty dove]

$7000 pistol, insane lol.

[fallen sail]

now give us a USP match or i'm gonna yell

[odd flicker]

Am getting so close to completing the task and it’s always a tripwire

I’ve been on the mission for like 2-3h

[odd flicker]

I have cleared every single room and the bring order to chaos won’t complete

And yet again I’ve been killed by grenade in an already cleared room

It’s been 4 hours

This game is broken

Another thing is I slightly opened the door and checked with the mirror gun and there was no nade

[heady crystal]

#🔎looking-for-players

[somber prism]

Will the new dlc make all our mods incompatible? Hopefully not

[fallen sail]

It shouldn't break mods like the UE5 switch did

[somber prism]

Aight

[fallen sail]

That being said it will 100% break some mods

It will probably make headgear mods non functional due to the entire system changing

[somber prism]

Yep

[odd flicker]

Mindjot mission so infuriating

The enemies just disappear and reappear

[lilac vale]

I’d say cosmetic,sound and Ai will have highest chance of getting broken

[odd flicker]

I died with one enemy left cuz he just spawned behind me

Great game

25 min wasted

[pliant briar]

enemies can't spawn behind you

[empty dove]

a couple wedges would help to avoid getting flanked on that map, last suspect tend to go full on aimbot rushing your location

[odd flicker]

He was outside

[empty dove]

and that's why i clear whole of outside first xd

[quasi sky]

Best Optimized settings?

For medium PCs?

?

[odd flicker]

I headshotted a guy in a hoodie and he survived

[lilac vale]

Nice

[odd flicker]

I got shot in the foot and died

[lilac vale]

Not so nice

[lament cove]

What "more flexibilities for players" enhancements are we expecting ?

[lilac vale]

Being able to have 2 different headgears at same time

Only confirmed thing to my knowledge

[empty dove]

and arrest canceling, quad nods and normal nods overlay

[lilac vale]

Only took like 3-4 years to add

......

[empty dove]

ikr and flashlight + laser still isn't worked upon...

[little burrow]

just realized this game had an official discord lol. I have a question since I'm a new player (19h) as I only completed 4 missions rank s and trying for the house of doll rank s. Anyone got tips to clean the low part of the house ? I always die after cleaning the first floor like the pics, around 5 6 suspects and like 3 randoms friendly, the computer of Amos Voll and sometimes Amos Voll. My issue is that every time I reach the ground floor (not the cave) I die no matter how I do I get beamed through a wall or a window before I can even do something. If someone got any tips for how to avoid getting destroyed every games in this map I'll take 'em. Thx

[empty dove]

Uh, the way I like doing for S rank is first go in main door clear all rooms on top floor including the gym, then wedge the door that leads to the staircase, then go all the way back to spawn and go downstairs via the side stairs and continue from there. Then clear kitchen and living room but don't get so close to the windows, instead make the suspects move towards you before you detain them. Then after you just have outside and the basement.

[little burrow]

ok thx I'll try it

[brazen yarrow]

chat if i got mods how do i play with online players from this server?

[tribal moss]

Nah, on mindjot there's a spot where they can barge through the wedged door. It's a bug since 1.0 I think, not sure if they fixed it, haven't played for months.

[brazen yarrow]

do i dissable them or ill only see them

[empty dove]

i dont think its fixed cos it happened to me on brisa cove a couple times too, but i guess it doesnt hurt to use them nevertheless

[brazen yarrow]

how do i play with real players if i have mods?

[cedar hollow]

either everyone has to have the mods or u have to remove them urself.

There are client side mods only though. Like the Gunfighter Flashlight mod and such

make sure to disable server side checksum

[empty dove]

make sure everyone has serverside checksum disabled but certain mods can still crash you or the others

[brazen yarrow]

serverside checksum?

whats that where do i find it

[empty dove]

settings -> gameplay

[brazen yarrow]

someone know how to increase my fps?

[brazen yarrow]

what does that do?

[empty dove]

be able to play with mods without everyone needing the mods (certain ones at least)

[empty dove]

lower everything to low, switch off decals, per object shadows etc...

[cedar hollow]

honestly, my FPS has been severily fucked since the home invasion update.

I had to use an external program called Lossless Scaling to fix it. You can find it on steam.

If not that, then just set textures to medium or low, shadows medium or low and so on and so forth. Also enable FSR or DLSS

[empty dove]

ye^ that can help aswell

also try out both dx11 and dx12 and use which ever works best for you

[cedar hollow]

I wish the game supported the vulkan API. It is really good

[brazen yarrow]

im stuck at first mission find the store manager

[empty dove]

🤦 😂

[tired solar]

he should be lying dead somewhere

[empty dove]

his head is blown up, it shouldn't be hard to miss

[empty dove]

true it's works rly well on many games

[brazen yarrow]

is he inside the store?

[empty dove]

ye in the office which is behind the cash register

[brazen yarrow]

found it does someone wanna play and chill 🙂 i love this game man

if i have custom weapon installed (pistol) can i still play online like what mods will deny me of playing online

[cedar hollow]

maybe later

[cedar hollow]

any server-side mods u have installed will give you problems if other people don't have them

[brazen yarrow]

what do u mean by that

[cedar hollow]

Server-side mods are mods that designed to have an effect for everyone in the lobby.
The gunfighter mod would be an example for example. It affects ballistics, movement speed, animation etc, so therefore it should be used by everyone as to not conflict with the vanilla game.

Client-side mods are mods that only affect the player who have it installed and they never (or at least should never) conflict with other people's mods and installation once u join an online lobby.
An example of that would be voice-line mods and graphical mods.

The people who made the mod will usually make it clear in the description if a mod is server or client-sidd

[brazen yarrow]

so voice line mods, better laser mods, ragdoll mods weapon mods wont affect the gameplay with online people but i have gunfighter mod

[cedar hollow]

and if they don't say it, play it safe and have everyone install it

[cedar hollow]

Yeah.

Though I'm not sure about the Ragdolls mod.

But yeah

[brazen yarrow]

dang man

i have so many mods and if smth affects the gameplay i have to delete all of em cuz idk which one is affecting the gameplay

do you know how to find which mod is affecting my gameplay

[regal grotto]

Fun fact, there is a planet nicknamed "Genesis Planet"

[mild scaffold]

genuine question is dark waters just the one mission or a collection of missions like home invasion?

[solid cape]

There will be 3 missions just like in home invasion

[harsh edge]

😔

[regal grotto]

3 missions

[little flower]

guys whats the best weapon in your opinion

[thin path]

F90

because this is as close to aug as we get in this game

real though, it has pretty nice recoil, kills things fast if need to, comfy to use

[little flower]

i tried it and its..

dissapointing

[regal grotto]

suspects friendly fired their own ruining my S rank

[sick saffron]

How can I get the new DLC (dark waters)?

[sick saffron]

Oh

Mb bro

So 2 days?

[sick saffron]

Will I be able to download it as a mod from nexus?

[green tusk]

You buy it on steam, it’s not a mod

[sick saffron]

How much will it cost?

[green tusk]

The same as the last dlc in your local currency

[sick saffron]

K

[haughty dragon]

im honestly surprised that void hasn't grasped the concept of other countries using other date formats

(when advertising to foreign countries, typically you use their date format, like in all the ig ads showing up for me)

ive personally had ron for a long time, but someone seeing it for the first time might not realise instantly you're using the wrong format

and especially paying for the adverts in foreign countries, not difficult to change the date format for such

[waxen latch]

i dont think it is that difficult to understand

[unreal shard]

Can u help me out😭

[karmic ermine]

[rigid bone]

It's consistency, for the most part

We're ostensibly an American game, so using North American date formats with everything is what we're gonna keep doing. Some of our artists actually, every once in a while, submit art in their regional date format and we need to get it tweaked

[tawny badger]

hey, is someone already had issues while launching the game ? Mine is just putting a black screen and crash without error message

[rigid bone]

What're your specs?

[tawny badger]

what is specs ?

[empty axle]

Computer specification

[rigid bone]

Like, what's your CPU, Graphics Card, and how much Memory do you have?

[harsh edge]

😔 decompiles your shaders

[tawny badger]

Intel Core I9 10900K, RTX 3060 Ti, 16G Ram

I was able to launch the game before, few month ago

[regal grotto]

caches your data

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/america-muricah-let-freedom-ring-gif-4996679

[regal grotto]

Whats your favourite gun?

[empty axle]

Have you reinstalled/verified? Updates sometimes break games

[rigid bone]

☝️

[tawny badger]

I reinstalled, update my drivers, update windows, relaunch my pc, now I don't know what to do...

[rigid bone]

You're well within runnable specs

[empty axle]

Have you tried safe mode

[rigid bone]

Did you ever mod the game?

[tawny badger]

no i'll try it

[tawny badger]

no, never

[regal grotto]

Whats your favourite gun?

[rigid bone]

GA51

[odd flicker]

SR-16 and Mk-18 prolly the nicest

[tawny badger]

It work in safe mode

[regal grotto]

Real guns

[tawny badger]

did it mean i can play online with my friend ?

[regal grotto]

Not science fiction

[empty axle]

Pretty sure

[regal grotto]

I am a GA51 denier

[tawny badger]

thanks mate, i'll try!

[regal grotto]

GA51 is a lie fed by the H&K kabal

[odd flicker]

Rhodesian FN FAL is the rightful heir to the throne.

[rigid bone]

Real? I don't really have a favorite gun, but I really like AKs. I also like my 10/22

[regal grotto]

Joke was GA51 doesn't exist

Can't Google it, doesn't exist

[rigid bone]

[harsh edge]

deletes your cookies

[odd flicker]

deletes your system32 file

[regal grotto]

Prove to me GA51 exists

[harsh edge]

deletes your drivers

[fallen sail]

it is a gun in the hyperrealistic tactical police shooter ready or not and therefore it is real life

[harsh edge]

you're a hyperrealistic tactical police shooter

smackonite

[regal grotto]

Show me a picture of it

I dare you

Show to me proof this GA51 exists

[fallen sail]

I'd get in trouble

[silent owl]

i hope you all get blown up

[crude lake]

There you go.

[unreal shard]

@rigid bone plz help brodie

[rigid bone]

What's up?

[regal grotto]

throws up

[crude lake]

Thats a Super Soaker clearly

[regal grotto]

What the fuck is that?

[fallen sail]

a ga51

[unreal shard]

Support channel🙏🏻

[odd flicker]

deletes your spinal cord

[regal grotto]

Why do we shorten an already short G3?

[silent owl]

holy glaze

[odd flicker]

a gay69

(am getting muted)

[plucky dirge]

ew

[crude lake]

I love when people use their phone to screenshot their computer screen

[odd flicker]

(or worse)

[plucky dirge]

also take those fuckin rails off the m14 PLEASE?

[empty axle]

all i want for christmas is a g36 carry handle

[rigid bone]

ask HK

[plucky dirge]

or else

[regal grotto]

Nuhuh

[fallen sail]

yuhuh

[rigid bone]

https://www.hkpro.com/attachments/364fb3f0-7bbb-43d2-8632-11f0d46d607f-jpeg.214128/

[regal grotto]

Put more rails on M14

[fallen sail]

i like how the magazine is half the gun

[regal grotto]

A rail on which you put more rail

[regal grotto]

Recoil: Yes

[rigid bone]

Yup

HK built a bullet dispencing flamethrower

[odd flicker]

Imagine the 30rnd in it

[empty axle]

the scar from fortnite is finally in this game

[plucky dirge]

eww

[regal grotto]

G3 fire 7.62 correct?

[plucky dirge]

yes

[odd flicker]

By 51 yes

[regal grotto]

Can devs also fix the abysmal Stress levels in Commander mode?

You kill 15 people and the squad gets all stressed like we didn't just follow RoE

[haughty dragon]

I do get that, and obviously for aspects publicly released, it makes sense. However, when doing advertising, you specify different regions that it goes out to, so it would make more sense (on advertising) to use their respective formats.

[waxen latch]

well thats the purpose, forces you to manage members and switch around

[empty axle]

RoE or not how would you feel shooting 15 people

[regal grotto]

What if by following RoE they don't lose stress?

[regal grotto]

Recoil

[harsh edge]

it's almost like even getting to the point where you're willing to take another life is stressful 🤔

[regal grotto]

So second best option is dying?

[harsh edge]

Doesn't matter how justified it is, when you cross that threshold of "if this dude doesn't stop what he's doing I'm going to shoot him" it changes you.

[regal grotto]

I literally lose Ironman runs because of stress mechanic

But I don't break RoE

[rigid bone]

You'd actually be surprised. A lot of market research, even research done by foreign studios in their home century, if a product is supposed to have an American feel they expect dates to be American.

Whereas full on multi-national projects will usually localize more aggressively

[harsh edge]

One of the SWAT officers who put down the Pulse shooter and was shot in the helmet never returned to work and had to fight Orlando to be medically retired. At least the way it works now the officers will end up eventually coming back to the squad 😛

[regal grotto]

So they still feel bad for a fucker who killed 30+ people?

[heavy flume]

is the game going on sale again

[regal grotto]

Put him in a body bag and be over with

[harsh edge]

Yeah that's almost like that's how being a normal human being works. You do what you have to do in the moment, doesn't change the fact you just killed someone.

[rigid bone]

Getting in a gunfight and killing someone is a traumatic experience. Stress doesn't mean they had empathy for the person they killed, it just means that it was a situation that frayed their nerves

[regal grotto]

We also made the mistake of taking Qamasada alive in Neon

Because of sparing him we got half of a hospital killed

[empty axle]

You watch too much television I think

[regal grotto]

Ending a life to save others is sometimes only option

[harsh edge]

There is a level of empathy involved, it's still a human being, deserved or not, monster or not, that's still a human life you just ended.

[modest fern]

Shocking that people killing people still get fucked up on some level

[harsh edge]

I've crossed that threshold of "if this doesn't stop I'm going to shoot this guy" twice in my career.

[odd flicker]

I keep dying to the most random shot

[harsh edge]

Once on a psych call and once on a domestic, obviously the psych call hit me harder, but both I was still shook.

[modest fern]

A lot of the body cam I see of police defending themselves deeply fuck up the officer

There's a reason police departments have mental health teams

[harsh edge]

No they don't.

[modest fern]

I know dispatchers do, so idk why police wouldn't

[harsh edge]

The overwhelming majority of departments don't have shit for mental health teams and will actively destroy you if you're open about mental health struggles.

Your only option is to quietly go to therapy and work through it.

[harsh edge]

No they don't either.

[modest fern]

Here they do, but we are a major city

[harsh edge]

The overwhelming majority of first responders work with absolutely no mental health assistance availability past what your health insurance covers as a matter of coverage.

[modest fern]

Was in our training manual

[harsh edge]

Like I said, SWAT officer at Pulse had to FIGHT to medically retire. Orlando PD's immediate reaction was return to duty or quit.

Put down a piece of shit terrorist who killed 50 people and was shot in the head in the process.

Return to duty or quit.

[regal grotto]

Can they shoot the suspect again after going down?

Maybe he was still moving

[harsh edge]

The officers at Pulse didn't have BWC but it's my understanding dude was thoroughly swiss cheesed.

[regal grotto]

Police should allow dead checks on mass shooters

During Iranian Embassy crisis in 1980's SAS had to mag dump a suspect because he was clutching a grenade

[waxen latch]

there are better examples even when the cops run to check on the people that were on the line of sight. Having to take the shot but your partner or an innocent person being right behind the suspect is a really bad scenario. Again not feeling bad right away for the attacker but for the potential risks towards those around who had nothing to do with the incident

That one dude that breaks down while talking to the lady through the suv window

need to find the video

[red jay]

"where did the terrorist get a standard issue SAS flashbang?"

'no idea sir'

[harsh edge]

I've wondered myself what fucks us up the most when we deal with critical incidents tbh, the suspect, the people we couldn't help, or the injuries we sustain in the process if any.

And having been on several critical incidents I'd say in order it's people we couldn't help->damage done to the suspect->our own injuries

[runic pulsar]

the one in colorado where the lady was driving on the wrong side of the road and pulled a gun?

[red jay]

there's a certain Target (the store) related police shooting that's quite hard to watch when you know the outcome

[regal grotto]

I am medically impaired from being a cop, but my personal belief is if someone decides to shoot up a place they deserve to die

[harsh edge]

They deserve to be stopped.

We're not executioners.

Yes, stopping them tends to mean putting them down.

[timber portal]

The goal is to end the threat, not extrajudicially execute them after they stop being threats

[harsh edge]

But when you get in the head space that people deserve things like that you end up in dark places.

[waxen latch]

dont think so. She was right behind the vehicle he shot at

[regal grotto]

They decided others' lives aren't worth it. Why would we preserve suspect's life?

[runic pulsar]

this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU0uvqeZzDo

[timber portal]

because swat officers arent executioners

[harsh edge]

Because it's my fucking job. Protect life, bring order to the chaos and bring criminals to answer for their crimes.

[waxen latch]

Yes

[harsh edge]

Does "protect and serve" specify only the law abiding?

And I'm not one of those new age millenial cops that is hesitant to use force or doesn't train. I'm a monster on the range and have gladly laid some ass whoopings on some assclowns who needed them, but that head space of the warrior mentality is killing us and we need to either seriously tune it or accept that the guardian mentality is just better for us.

When a warrior isn't at war he wars with himself.

uwu

[regal grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-13105127215766961484

[harsh edge]

The duwuality of man

Furries are crazy man on one end of the spectrum you've got lazy smelly NEETs that live in basements and on the other you've got fucking body stackers and cage fighters it is truly an all encompassing community

[timber portal]

thats also not mentioning the fact that the furry community is almost singlehandedly holding up the entirity of the IT industry

[harsh edge]

real

I wanna sneak a...Uh...Misbehaving Lizard (iykyk) magnet on my sgt's car.

[timber portal]

During the whole crowdstrike outage this past summer, a rather large portion of my classmates doing research had to go out for contracting doing IT work, and every single one of them where at least furry-adjacent

[analog yarrow]

what’s yall favorite guns and why?

tryna find a good main

[harsh edge]

There isn't a single purpose in existence a Glock 17 with a TLR light and a red dot and an AR-15 in 5.56 can't sufficiently provide for.

[timber portal]

Im a big believer of the AR platform, and my everyday carry is a Sig p365xl

love that little gun, its a fuckin trooper

[harsh edge]

P365 is also acceptable it's great for a tiny gun

My EDC is a Glock 26 with a 19's mag so 15 shots

[analog yarrow]

i got a smith& m&p shield

[harsh edge]

The new Shields with the big mags are decent

[analog yarrow]

yeah they ain’t bad

[harsh edge]

That grip safety on the EZ models is an affront to god.

[timber portal]

when I was testing guns before I got my carry license, i was put off by shield triggers

have they fixed those in recent years?

[regal grotto]

I can't fight

[harsh edge]

I know what you mean, I had a Shield for a while gifted it to my now ex when he turned 21. The trigger is a little stiff

Idk if the new models are better tho

[analog yarrow]

use a gun

[regal grotto]

Nature saw my genes and decided I need color blindness

Rather mild but enough to fail police academy

[analog yarrow]

mine feels stiff right before it actually shoots

like super stiff what can i do to fix that

[harsh edge]

Yeah the break on the Shield is a tad annoying

[timber portal]

I own an FN five-seven, but ill be fucked if i can afford to buy ammo for that motherfucker for training/carry

[analog yarrow]

i’ve tried cleaning it with multiple different cleaners

[harsh edge]

Tim Kennedy is a big fan of the five seven cause with the 30 shot extended in it you've basically got a pocket rifle.

[long wraith]

I played with a dude who had a zombies mod where there were like 140 zombies with knifes all running at you lol. Can I download that through the game or do I have to go somewhere like nexus mods

[timber portal]

And go broke shooting 2 mags, screw that lmao

[harsh edge]

I'm more of the opinion civilians shouldn't make it obvious they're carrying because 90% of them aren't as prepared to be the first person being shot at as they think they are.

[glass mulch]

Nexus

[harsh edge]

But obvs Tim Kennedy is a body stacker so doesn't apply

[glass mulch]

Modio is broken

[long wraith]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/2169

this it?

[harsh edge]

real

[timber portal]

Like, at that point, just fuckin take my wallet, theres less in there than in my handgun tbh

[harsh edge]

As a civilian you're gonna get yourself or others killed overestimating your shooting skills. The element of surprise and knowing the perp doesn't expect you to be armed and shooting back are critical cause if they engage you and as a civilian you lack the training to ambush the ambush and fire back you're gonna lose. That's the biggest reason I don't like civilians open carrying.

Not to say I don't think it should be allowed, it should be, I just don't think it's good practice.

[glass mulch]

Yes sir

[timber portal]

id say a good 50% of all people carrying, open or otherwise, dont do the requisite training to be ready for carrying

[harsh edge]

^^^^^^^

and 50% is generous

[timber portal]

im including those who carry as civilians after being LE/Military/etc

for the strictly civilian population, its probably closer to 80%

[harsh edge]

More and more shooters are wearing armor, and more and more have paramilitary training. If you can't make good headshots from 15 yards in you're not training enough

[rigid bone]

I have the license to carry, but I don't because I'm not confident in my shooting skills

[timber portal]

Only one way to fix that

[harsh edge]

Go take a training course 😮

[glass mulch]

Thats fair

[timber portal]

get your happy ass to the shooting range

[rigid bone]

I do, when I can

I practice a lot in the warm months, but still

[harsh edge]

Hop online and buy a stack of TQ-21 targets, that's what LE uses to qualify, and just practice putting shots in the milk jug from 25 in

From 15 in focus on those headshots

Work on getting the gun out and into a strong shooting platform, spend HOURS just drawing from the holster

The biggest fumble point for you as a civilian is going to be that "oh shit someone is SHOOTING AT US" and drawing from a concealed position

[timber portal]

I need to find a holster that will accomodate my nightstick light on my sig

My current kydex holster is just for the naked sig

[harsh edge]

My road partner is a combat vet and watches a lot of videos about how tier 1 guys train, he was telling me SFODD is such good marksmen because they spend weeks upon weeks mastering the fundementals before you even get live ammo

Drawing, establishing a good platform, giving the trigger enough meat, sight picture and allignment, punching out, etc

[timber portal]

thats how my dad taught me to shoot competition when i was young

[rigid bone]

any recs for a decent holster? I carry a shield rn

[harsh edge]

Anything Safariland you can't go wrong with.

Pricey but you get the quality you pay for.

[timber portal]

we spent probably 2 months on just practicing drawing and acquiring targets cleanly before I ever got live shots

[harsh edge]

https://www.amazon.com/Safariland-Flexible-Concealment-Holster-SafariSeven/dp/B073R6PS11/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3AGKAU5VX8G3T&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.ZGRQk5ivk3WKVzGJLNMpWeI7nAIpik3k3v0kDCavS3ivxCZ85Isnj0hWyE293xh5EFHL_66wqCi7QTKtoh9JmRqr4oXiWkRCCQhhKkVEvZgqQL8JPB-to35qwGzWKmUOz8iHaW_I9N_wGRz5w3IldpDSH8jiaPBnFy7OvPmuygJ1m2yeZj4uysVcXE6IOrsndG9MWLCVBAkAl5OhRyP2dYiUFUO0yM3NpPq1vSiW7PaOFGjW3JuULqD87IjaaCr6Ye3Vy6nnf6-sXgtIK7V7E2D4FuxqYl2ZyFl8FLCjp5c.JAMxERI0l8_ahr5roWKUceQN7--VeHggmdebvzhRlWQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=safariland+m%26p+shield+holster&qid=1733693785&sprefix=safariland+m%26p+shield+holste%2Caps%2C108&sr=8-1

oh jesus my b I didn't think the link was gonna be so long

But yeah there's a Safariland OWB for your Shield.

IMO owb is the way to go but I'm biased, it's all I've trained on, but I do believe OWB is legitimately easier to draw from

[rigid bone]

[empty axle]

let's host a cow tipping competition

[harsh edge]

And 57 bucks is a steal tbh you'll have that holster forever and if by some dumb chance it does go kapoot Safariland's customer service is great

[regal grotto]

grab a 4th negotiator or 2nd Armorer?

[timber portal]

OWB

[glass mulch]

Spectre with exp coming with the tge recs 🙂

[harsh edge]

I'm gonna say it.

Every single holster that isn't leather is trying and failing to be a Safariland killer at the same price point.

So just buy a damn Safariland

[rigid bone]

I'm not gonna lie

[timber portal]

I dont think safariland makes a holster that accomodates lights

[regal grotto]

4th negotiator or 2nd armorer?

[timber portal]

[harsh edge]

For off duty carry yeah they do.

It's gonna set you back more ofc

[rigid bone]

I wanna get a shoulder holster for my revolver and carry that but I don't wanna spend the money on a good one

[harsh edge]

Don't do that.

[rigid bone]

https://tenor.com/view/negotiator-negotiation-negotiate-negotiating-william-shatner-gif-20414542

[timber portal]

shoulder holsters look cool, but are awful

[rigid bone]

Oh I know

[harsh edge]

Drawing from a shoulder holster is much slower and harder to get into a good platform

[rigid bone]

Painfully impractical

but

R e v o l v e r

[timber portal]

genuinely just better duct-taping the gun to your chest tbh

[empty axle]

my nighthawk m1911 fits perfectly in my ralph lauren pantaloons, who needs holsters

[rigid bone]

It's a S&W 686

[harsh edge]

I also have a 686+

[regal grotto]

why?

[harsh edge]

7 shot competition sights rosewood grips stainless steel 6 inch barrel 😎

[timber portal]

rosewood sights

wait, nvm, misread that

[harsh edge]

rosewood deez nuts 😔

[waxen latch]

EDC, nothing better than this

[timber portal]

Buddy of mine is trying to get a hold of the Triple Action Thunder design papers so he can make 6 of them to carry on a bandolier pirate style

hes calling it the Crackbeard loadout

[harsh edge]

What if it was one guy with 6 guns?

[gaunt holly]

Shoulder holster prob the best option if you wear suits a lot tho

But then again. Why edc a big ass revolver lol

[silent owl]

game has no G17, not cag

[glass mulch]

Theres a mod that turns the g19 into a 17

[silent owl]

ik

but the attachment mod dosent see it as a mod so i cant use btter attachments

[glass mulch]

Ah

[silent owl]

also i need a G17 with raised iron sights

those look and feel nice

[regal grotto]

Fun fact, a heptic feedback suit can react in the ghost hunting game Phasmophobia

Usually designed to simulate getting hit, in that game it makes the vest "glitch" to simulate ghost presence

It would also suck to wear in RoN as we get shot 15 times

[silent owl]

how to fix tramatising my entire squad in one mission

[regal grotto]

Attempt to arrest suspects alive, but if they are fuckity fucked send them to therapy

[silent owl]

i just blow them up

easier and cheaper

i aint paying for no therapy

[timber portal]

"how fix scarring my officers for life"

send your officers to therapy or stop scarring them for life
"Thats wack, im not gonna do that"

I guess the better solution for you is just to take a bunch of officers in to the Lethal Obsession mission, put the anxious ones on a door with a grenade on it, tell them to breach it, then hire new officers to replace the old anxious ones

(this is NOT legal advice)

[silent owl]

and what

who says i cant nade my own sqaud

[timber portal]

right, mb, swat teams are NOTORIOUS for having oodles of live nades on missions where evacing civvies is at least tangentally important

But i suppose if you cant tell a civvie arm and giblets from a suspect arm and giblets you can at least make the claim that they where all suspects

[ionic mulch]

any comp shooters here know some good holsters for a canik rival

[twin coral]

Why cant I attach my grenade launcher to my rifle

[glass mulch]

Because its not an attachment

At least not one avaible in game

[haughty dragon]

Oh interesting. Not what I would have expected, fair enough then.

[novel patio]

nah fuck american dates

[uneven basin]

I am personally a fan of iso's yyyy.mm.dd for unambiguous ordering

[silent owl]

dd.mm.yyyy is the only way it makes sense

[novel patio]

Its the only logical one.

[modest fern]

Do not fuck the American dates

[novel patio]

Wouldnt fuck anything american dw

[silent owl]

american dates make no sense lmao

[modest fern]

Skill issue

Blame the British

[uneven basin]

The problem is everyone does mm.dd.yyyy or dd.mm.yyyy so by putting the year in front you establish up front what the order is gonna be

[silent owl]

the british have the better dates 😭

[rigid bone]

YMD is the superior date

[uneven basin]

Thank you 💪

[novel patio]

Most of the real world you mean

[silent owl]

yup. go check your gmail, go ahead and download the file. unzip it

[modest fern]

this sounds like a threat

[silent owl]

you too

[livid depot]

yup. go check your mailbox, grab the package, open it

[silent owl]

nope, sending back to orginal poster address

go ahead and check your wiri router

[livid depot]

your address is on it

:p

[silent owl]

you can find out who sent a package to you

[livid depot]

200 iq move

[livid depot]

not if i deliver it myself

checkmate

[silent owl]

ring door bell

no post box either

[livid depot]

im wearing a bandana crawling on the floor like the burger king ad then delivering it

checkmate

make one on your property

500 iq move

[silent owl]

what if i just take off the lable and threw it into my neighbours backyard

[livid depot]

as long as it kills someone

[silent owl]

not me so

[uneven basin]

Clearly industrial society and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[modest fern]

Silly human, wait until the fifth industrial revolution, that's the real fun one

[uneven basin]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[boreal ore]

Howdy.

[plucky dirge]

hey

[harsh edge]

😔

[raven pier]

the last update the game had was the one on the patch-notes channel?

[glass mulch]

No the last patch/hot fix was in Auguest

[sacred holly]

if only there was a time stamp 😔

[boreal ore]

Blep.

[glass mulch]

My guessitmation is... about the sametime 10am pst

[sacred holly]

1 pm est i think

right?

[glass mulch]

Correct, like i said this is a guess, i could be wrong

[sacred holly]

True

[rigid bone]

[sacred holly]

12 am on tuesday

[glass mulch]

Lol Kam

[sacred flame]

@rigid bone is there new maps or sum??? why did i just see naked women in containers on my tiktok

[rigid bone]

Uh

That's part of Port

[sacred flame]

if yes is it dlc ? or is it just a map i havent played

i forgot what that is is it the hide and seek mission?

[simple turret]

its been in the game since 1.0

[sacred flame]

hide and seek and the dlc i think is only missions i havent finished

[simple turret]

yes

[sacred flame]

ohhhh

makes sense, when j tried playing hide and seek it was after dlc update when i got the freeze glitch

getting a new pc soon so imma redo whole game rq

[pearl bramble]

idk where to post this,

but my game keeps crashing on missions,

i have a i7 7700k cpu / 64GB of RAM / 3060 GPU

i have verified files, i have even uninstalled/reinstalled and it keeps crashing,

Does anyone have any ideas how to solve this issue? it is happening on every mission in the game. I have played this game for well over a year and never had any issues, came back recently to play some more with a friend and i keep crashing.

[glass mulch]

Is your game freezing? Or just closing with a crash report

[pearl bramble]

complete freeze with the task manager saying, "unresponsive"

i have tried running it in both directx11 and directx12

it happens on both

[glass mulch]

Does audio keep playig?

[pearl bramble]

nope

[glass mulch]

Ok, atm theres a known issue with intel cpus freezing a fix is coming with the of the next dlc which is the 10th

[pearl bramble]

will this fix come even if i do not purchase the DLC?

[hardy canopy]

64gb of ram on a 7700k rig sounds so silly in 2024

[glass mulch]

Yes it is

[pearl bramble]

great, thank you

[glass mulch]

Your welcome!

[pearl bramble]

built it 8 years ago, and i build only once every 10 years -- upgraded my GPU for my sons PC and gave him my 1070 that was originally in this one.

[glass mulch]

Sounds like me. I build mine every 10 as well

[hardy canopy]

You'd do better to get a mid range rig every 5 years than a high end one every 10

Just saying

[glass mulch]

I built mine a few years ago, might look into a new one in a few years

[hardy canopy]

I'll buy when there is something new interesting on the market

But it's just cause i'm sort of a hobbyist

[glass mulch]

Thats fair

[hardy canopy]

Next cpu upgrade is probably coming once intel 18A hits the desktop market tho

Which isn't very soon as the node isn't even ready for mass production yet

[glass mulch]

Might look into a 12th gen intel

I heard 13th and 14th have had issues

[modest fern]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-real-true-fact-checked-fact-gif-6343207587503842551

[knotty forge]

how long after a GTAV Lester assasination mission do you wait to buy stocks

unrelated to current events

[simple turret]

if youre building in current year and not using a 7 or 9800x3d youre throwing simple as

[ripe olive]

1 day after

[hardy canopy]

Yes but they have been fixed by microcode updates, the only "physical" manufacturing defects were limited to a very early 13th gen batch. 12th gen is good tho as it's very cheap. 12600kf being below 140 bucks often times

[knotty forge]

IMBED FAILURE

[hardy canopy]

9800x3d simply isn't available anywhere and in the meantime 7800x3d is in the ballpark of $500

[ripe olive]

i won't discuss what i did with my build because i threw differently

[empty dove]

some undervoltage tweaking in the bios can make the issues go away, but still kind of run hot, so cooling needs to be prioritised aswell for those cpu's

[simple turret]

people happily drop well over $800 for le top spec intcel chips

[brazen wagon]

[glass mulch]

Yeah 12gens seem reasonbly priced, yeah rather not fuck around with microcode 🤣

[glass mulch]

Fair enough

[hardy canopy]

No consumer intel chip has ever been $800, the 900ks which are overclocking enthusiast SKU's being 700$

[empty dove]

but if you're just gonna game just get a 7800x3d or even a 5800x3d and avoid intel

[hardy canopy]

It's just simple bios update and you're golden. A toddler could do it

[simple turret]

☝️🤓

damn you got me there off by $100 i lose

[modest fern]

Same way I wouldn't buy a car with a serious defect (even if it was recalled,) I won't be fuckin with those chips

[simple turret]

real

[hardy canopy]

550-600$ is what the highest end has always been

[simple turret]

so what youre saying is your original point is irrelevant

[glass mulch]

Fair enough

[hardy canopy]

It's not a consumer sku

But even then, you can buy a 14900ks for less than 7950x3d

[glass mulch]

🤔 i could always predownload it before building the new pc

[simple turret]

why would you when 7800x3d shits on both in terms of game performance

intel had to slash their prices so hard because they cant compete on top of having a defective product

intel bros... we got too cocky

[modest fern]

That's what you get for not pumping Nvidia

[hardy canopy]

You simply update the bios of the board it will prevent it from shoving 1.6V into the chip when it's idle

[empty dove]

just dont get asus board if you're going intel route XD

[glass mulch]

Oh?

[hardy canopy]

Because there is a lot more the world of pc's than gaming

It's just one segment

[glass mulch]

I never had an issue with asus

Unless the later gen boards are bad

[empty dove]

they are putting some very risky values in their bios and pushing the limits to scary burning temps to the 13th/14th gens

[glass mulch]

Oh god

[empty dove]

old ones are fine

used to be best boards actually

[simple turret]

yeah but muh e-cores will never be real cores so amd stays winning on all fronts im afriade

[empty dove]

but new ehhh stay away imo

[simple turret]

i do enjoy the irony of having "efficiency cores" on a cpu that draws over 300w tho

[ripe olive]

haven't kept up with pc building since like august are they still iffy with their rma processes

[empty dove]

they're learning from their own mistakes (if you're referring to asus boards specifically) but still some tweaking from yourself is needed for the 13th/14th gens, bios updates alone just won't cut it

unless you spend like half your budget on cooling and don't give a rats ass about the rest it will work

[hardy canopy]

Yeah... People sure do like to make fun of the hybrid design until they realize that skymont cores are more powerful than Raphael, aka desktop zen 4 cores

[empty dove]

i get what you mean and i agree with you, but you're being a bit biased from just the gaming side, intel is still a considered option for editing and other stuff outside the gaming world

[hardy canopy]

You can always get a $40 thermalright dual tower which is enough to keep a 14900k cool because the new bioses use the 254W profile

[empty dove]

yeah just not asus xd

[hardy canopy]

I don't really get where you are getting that from if i'm honest

All their recent problems have been warranty related

Intel did change the stock profile policy from being oem defined to being strictly the one recommend by intel

And asus is no exception

Their latest bioses do use the microcode

[empty dove]

just look up asus overvolting, blowing cpu's, there are alot of sources
yeah yeah im not saying they didn't fix it, but they are still dodgy compared to the other board brands

they even had problems with amd at first not just intel

referring to asus ^

[hardy canopy]

Early zen 4 problem

Not even related to intel at all

[empty dove]

both actually

when even their own sponsors stopped supporting them

and they used to be die hard asus go to

[hardy canopy]

It happened once and every incident after was quickly reported on by without doing any kind of research into the matter. Then couple of days later the articles are silently pulled away or there is a correction article because it turned out to be user error

[empty dove]

not really, been on a steep decline for the past 4 generations

[hardy canopy]

Gee i wonder why the chip burned, is it perhaps because i forced it into the socket the wrong way

How could it be that 12V line isn't supposed to go into the memory pins

[hardy canopy]

It has to do with rushed and lackluster bios revisions, denying warranty claims and poor component selection while retaining their premium pricing. Not because they have been burning silicon left and right

[empty dove]

yeah they started to became anti-consumer and lack serious quality control

[rigid bone]

What's Y'alls opinion on a 7800/7900XT VS a 4070 Ti S

[novel patio]

i love it when the ai spots me through a pixel sized gap through 4 chain link fences, 2 bushes and a window and fatally wounds me

[empty dove]

lower to mid range go amd
mid to high range go nvidia
in that case i would go for 4070 ti super

[hardy canopy]

7800xt is not a 4070tis competitor

[empty dove]

and ye im comparing 7900xt with 4070 ti super not the 7800xt

[rigid bone]

More in the sense of price-performance than direct performance

[hardy canopy]

It does depend on what the pricing is for you locally

[empty dove]

yeah that aswell

[simple turret]

i mean i mostly do programming and tend to spin up a number of vms and such my 5900x is great, the argument for intel always used to be muh game performance which is why its funny to bring up now lol

[empty dove]

ye fair enough

[novel patio]

is shotguns only reloading one shell before cancelling the reload on its own half the time intentional or nah

[simple turret]

i would do the same if i were in the position of the ai

[hardy canopy]

For gamers the radeon cards offer better price to performance than nvidia cards pretty much across the board. However sacrificing premium features and power efficiency in the current gen. Premium features being dlss, dlaa, frame gen. All of them being higher quality than fsr. Also you lack cuda which, may or may not be important to you. Ray tracing performance is better on nvidia cards, especially when you scale the settings higher.

With some really light rt effects like ones you see in spiderman games the 7900xt isn't that far off the 4070tis

But if you run path tracing on cyberpunk, the radeon cards drop very hard

[sacred flame]

im going from a rx580 to a rtx 3060 Ti

[rigid bone]

about 800$ for a 16gb TiS, 650-750~ for a 20gb 7900

Hmm.

[hardy canopy]

Is it the 7900xt or gre

[rigid bone]

XT

[empty dove]

what about the 7900xtx (in terms of price)? then maybe i would consider the 7900xtx instead of 4070 ti super but not the 7900xt

[hardy canopy]

I'd get the 7900xt unless you use a cuda application

[sacred flame]

i like nvidia

more than other thing

[rigid bone]

I'm much more familiar with the Nvidia board partners, is it just about the same from Nvidia to AMD?

[sacred flame]

its more prefrence

[rough shuttle]

toc 1: watch it entry team !
toc 2: uhhhh

[rigid bone]

also no

[hardy canopy]

Nothing really changes. Although MSI never really had that great radeon cards because amd is rather difficult to work with on getting designs approved and whatnot

[rigid bone]

I can't say I've ever had my shotgun stop reloading

[sacred flame]

guys would i need to overclock my gpu and cpu in a build with rtx 3060 ti and a 7 7700X

[novel patio]

yk how double tapping reload with a magazine fed gun will dispose the mag

does that have any effect on shotguns that you are aware of

[empty dove]

check settings, it can either be press once for 1 shell or press once for full tube reload

[hardy canopy]

It is the reason why you see a lot more motherboard and graphics card variety on intel and nvidia stuff

[rigid bone]

☝️

I think that's what happening

You might be doing the single reload on accident

[sacred flame]

yes happened to me a bunch of times

[green tusk]

I can confirm I get that issue on the breach shotty but not regular ones

Despite having full reload enabled

And it only happens on the first shell reloaded

[sacred flame]

one time it pissed me off so i maybe shot my friend in the head

[modest fern]

RoN discussion in general chat? impossible

[empty dove]

i think i get that when i spam the reload button instead of pressing it once

[rigid bone]

nin

[empty dove]

which causes something weird i guess

[modest fern]

Shush, I am doing a paper about AI while also glancing chat

[green tusk]

AI bad, sometimes

Paper done

[sacred flame]

kaminsky how are u level 85 with 19 years of service in steam

[hardy canopy]

Yk you can buy xp

[rigid bone]

Naw

[sacred flame]

19 years still crazy

[rigid bone]

That's actually low

[hardy canopy]

Via store points

[sacred flame]

kaminsky what is ur age

[hardy canopy]

Or by crafting card sets

[green tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[sacred flame]

[rigid bone]

I'm 33

[crude lake]

[sacred flame]

wow

bro watched jurassic park irl

[hardy canopy]

Midlife crisis when

[rigid bone]

Silence young'n

[empty dove]

💀

[modest fern]

God damn

[crude lake]

Tell 'em, boah!

[modest fern]

that is actually brutal

[sacred flame]

[hardy canopy]

Intel stock really took a dive after their CEO resigned

[novel patio]

Why are LSPD SWAT raiding a homeless camp

[sacred flame]

los santos

[inner heath]

the new DLC if you have home invasion will you have to do one dlc first in the singlplayer or will you have 2 missions to choose from at once ??

[sacred flame]

vs

los suenos

[novel patio]

los santos safer

[hardy canopy]

Because the building is about to collapse

[sacred flame]

is the dlc worth buying

[novel patio]

And we end up killing half the people in it

[novel patio]

1 and a half good maps

[hardy canopy]

You are not supposed to kill anyone

Did you not read the roe

[sacred flame]

ill make my friend buy it

[novel patio]

its am american police force

*an

[supple hinge]

Check the context in the tablet

[sacred flame]

when i played the school shooting the first time i was maybe scared of ready or not so i was kinda slow and every student got shot

[rare imp]

The building was technically illegally taken over by them while it was abandoned, but an officer got shot during a call about a disturbance, which is why your team is sent in

[sacred flame]

why not just bomb it

[lilac vale]

This man knows lore

[hardy canopy]

Just because you were born with an ar on your hand and an eagle on your shoulder doesn't mean you are supposed to gun down everyone on sight...

[supple hinge]

Or just read the briefing

[rare imp]

its all in the briefing

[lilac vale]

It was a joke..

[rare imp]

and you can listen to the officer who got shot outside too

[sacred flame]

the f90 goes brrrr

[novel patio]

anyways omw to be a billionaires personal security

because thats what police are

[supple hinge]

I know and you break my joke

[hardy canopy]

Yk there is a game for that too

[sacred flame]

does anyone have any tips on sleeping

[novel patio]

yea its the lawmaker mission

[sacred flame]

how do i sleep bro

[hardy canopy]

Log off discord

[sacred flame]

its 3 am what do i do

[hardy canopy]

Turn off your phone

[sacred flame]

this is my last option

doesnt work

[hardy canopy]

I diagnose you with

Dumb

[sacred flame]

indigo

[hardy canopy]

Nah like a game

[sacred flame]

thats not very nice

how do i sleep bro is there a new meta or sum

[crude lake]

Open a "Walking through rainy Tokio by night" video" and put the phone beside your pillow.

[novel patio]

hold your breath till you black out

[sacred flame]

smart idea

[empty dove]

just don't easy, then your burning eyes will automatically make you sleep

[novel patio]

iphones have a white noise feature i cant speak for android havent had one since the s5

those were pocket warmers

[empty dove]

works everytime

[sacred flame]

what if i dont wanna dream something with rain

maybe i want to

[hardy canopy]

Spend $5000 on a sleep doctor who's just gonna tell you the exact same shit your parents told you when you were 4

[sacred flame]

but then no sleep and then no growing and then not 6 foot anymore

[woeful aurora]

Do you have to get an S on cherryessa farm for the fallen officers watch?

[crude lake]

"Walking through WW2 Berlin after combat by night" then

[hardy canopy]

Yes

[sacred flame]

laughs in free healthcare

[novel patio]

I miss the old carrier of the vine

actually no

[sacred flame]

bro when i played carrier of the vine i put on gas mask and went with my friend we kinda gassed everything up

[novel patio]

laughs in my country doing everything it can to gut healthcare before the next election

[hardy canopy]

Yeah well doctors specializing on sleep are a part of the private sector

[crude lake]

Bring it back for the mapping contest then

[sacred flame]

no , only if i want and if i do its abt 30 bucks a visit

[novel patio]

carrier of the vine taught me that a cotton dress is enough ballistic protection to stop a 357.

[sacred flame]

[sacred flame]

and that grandmas are to be shot on sight

cant relate i always use the strongest AR

[novel patio]

Yea i just shoot everyone on that map

[sacred flame]

kills more than the shotgun

[novel patio]

It does

pump action is satisfying though

[sacred flame]

i put on riot gear get gas mask gas dispenser and make a new gas chamber

ready or not a horror game ngl

[novel patio]

Usually i just go in with the swat99 kit and an mp5a2

[sacred flame]

the amount of mini heart attacks i get is crazy

[novel patio]

its nuts how immune some of these fuckers are to gas

[sacred flame]

mp5 is crazy i use a AR which if u shoot once and hit anything other than legs and arms they die

[hardy canopy]

Did you learn nothing from the fbi miami shootout

[sacred flame]

cant relate

how do i sleep yall

and i wanna dream i dont wanna skip forward

[novel patio]

Was that the one where the 2 dudes had a shootout that lasted hours because the police couldnt actually penetrate their armour

[sacred flame]

dreaming fun asf ngl especially when its a gokd one or a lucid dream

my eyes are red

[hardy canopy]

Yes it's the one where the fbi agents teeny tiny .357's turned out to be too weak to be affective against some basic body armor

[sacred flame]

mama that burns

am i the only one who straight up read every comment in streamer mission

@rigid bone why u go

i sorry for joke

[rigid bone]

I'm always here

[hardy canopy]

@sacred flame you got a problem dude

[sacred flame]

indigo have u ever had a dream

[hardy canopy]

It's called staying up for no good reason

[novel patio]

Fun

[sacred flame]

where u werent mean

[rigid bone]

You might like the Elysian map then

[green tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/fr-lie-gif-9063740662564569899

[novel patio]

Anyways off to go liberate a cult then

revolver only lets go

[sacred flame]

imma try and go to sleep

if i come back in 5 mins its indigos fault that i didnt sleep

[novel patio]

I swear to god go to sleep.

fuck sakes i clicked commander mode

[hardy canopy]

Hope they aren't called the branch davidians

[novel patio]

Nah its the carriers of the vine people

[sacred flame]

good night people

[novel patio]

Go to sleep.

[sacred flame]

ok ok

[empty dove]

waco 💀

[hardy canopy]

Just put down your phone and don't touch it till morning for fucks sake

[sacred flame]

erm im back

how

[novel patio]

Are you just after attention

[hardy canopy]

[sacred flame]

indigo its ur fault that i cant sleep

[novel patio]

You are

[sacred flame]

like 20 mins ago i was almost asleep

then i let my phone down

[novel patio]

block him and move on

[sacred flame]

and i was back energised

move on is crazy

[hardy canopy]

Pretty lame cult tbh

[sacred flame]

fym lame

[hardy canopy]

The people's temple is a much better story

[sacred flame]

they beat my ahh

[empty dove]

yeah idk how the people kept falling for it tbh...

[sacred flame]

one grandma strajght up exploded a wall and shot me with a shotgun

im not stepping foot near that yard without riot gear

[hardy canopy]

Well it's a lot easier to take advantage of someone who is vulnerable and lost

[sacred flame]

was there another update since the dlc

[empty dove]

yeah true no doubt about that but still.....

[novel patio]

Oh hey thats just religion