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[gritty coyote]

on Narcos this is every suspect

these sidestrafing Quake gods actually have more accuracy the further they are away from you

one must master the map, wedge and force angles

[calm carbon]

I got sniped by a cultist woman holding an ak

[gritty coyote]

I have noticed that if you stand in their breaching direction you most likely will lose in the quickdraw, but if you stand to the side even a little bit you get the first shot

[wide scaffold]

She got too much of pure aura you didn't stand a chance

[calm carbon]

Seriously what is it with ready or not enemies loving the AK so much

[wide scaffold]

Take a wild fucking guess

[gritty coyote]

you mean the most popular and produced gun in the world ?

[wide scaffold]

Its with every terrorist group basically

It's cheap it's reliable it's accessible

[gritty coyote]

geez I wonder why they don't prefer HK416

[wide scaffold]

3 in one

[wide scaffold]

Or the SA-58 OSW

[calm carbon]

Lemme get some JHP and aura check her

[calm carbon]

Never thought the AK is that accessible in the US
Thought such cults would go for pistols mix of SMGs hunting rifles shotguns and some AR platforms in the mix
Not saying I didn't expect AKs

Just didn't expect them to rely on it that much

[wide scaffold]

Son

[calm carbon]

But jeez is it a pain in the ass to deal with

[wide scaffold]

Any gun is THAT accessible in US

Its US what did you expect

[icy walrus]

Ready Or Not

[wide scaffold]

You just need to pretend like you won't shoot up a place and you're going to get a gun

[gritty coyote]

If you are referring to carriers of the vine, the AK is a very popular icon against the US government. It's the symbol for resistance.

I would not be surprised that there is an ideological commitment behind that preference

[wide scaffold]

AK has done irreversible damage to our society

[calm carbon]

Especially when the suspects are a coin toss between your average civilian and ex Delta force

[calm carbon]

That explains a lot

[gritty coyote]

the suspects on hard mode have higher accuracy than your SWAT team. let that sink in

[calm carbon]

Thanks
wasn't familiar with US laws (I live an ocean away lol)

[wide scaffold]

They are on super fent that gives them +100% more accuracy +100% more damage and +100% more headshot damage

[gritty coyote]

it's silly as hell we are worse than crackheads

[calm carbon]

Understandable

[pure spindle]

dawg how do i s rank hunger strike i litterally cannot

[wide scaffold]

Well it's not exactly that but that's the gist of it

[pure spindle]

ive done almost all the missions but hunger strike seems the hardest

[gritty coyote]

rotary bang. breach both front and backdoor at the same time. Rush upstairs. You are on a 60-second timer. Good luck

[wide scaffold]

Some states allow open carry so you can get a M16 and put it on your back and just walk around like it's an average tuesday

[pure spindle]

you mean like, sending both teams on different doors?

[icy walrus]

this is not true, by the way

[gritty coyote]

hunger strike is such an RNG-dependent and unfair mod but it's so short that you can keep trying again and again

[gritty coyote]

Yes. To cut off their running.

[pure spindle]

ok

ill try, thank you

[wide scaffold]

Over 30 states do

[gritty coyote]

Stay with the backdoor team. The stairs is AIDS

use rotary bang launcher

[calm carbon]

Here (Iraq) there's a ton of different weapons but the AK is the most common among civilians due to reasons you have already pointed out
Different with military tho

[pure spindle]

uhhh do i have to run flashes or is gas fine

[gritty coyote]

gas is useless

[pure spindle]

js on this mission or all of them? 💔

[gritty coyote]

the new dlc enemies are even immune to gas

it just keeps getting nerfed

[pure spindle]

ugh

[wide scaffold]

AK is cheaper than the guns military use

[gritty coyote]

just get used to flashbanging everyone

[icy walrus]

there are no states where you can open carry an M16, because it is a select fire weapon and thus federally banned (with certain exceptions for LE, museums, etc)

[gritty coyote]

use the rotary launcher. most op thing in the game

[pure spindle]

lmao then do i use the shit pepper pistol?

[calm carbon]

True but we have got so many different variants of the Ak that the quality varies
With military your more likely to find it in checkpoints and overall support or militia units
Not that much frontline use these days
The police have tons of Aks tho
The federal police are different by having a mix of Ak's and VHS-2s

[pure spindle]

or js using the launcher will work

[wide scaffold]

There are 38 states that allow it

You just need a ton of documents

You need stamps and shi

[calm carbon]

Our top units all use 5.56 guns

[icy walrus]

if you're talking about an AR that looks like an M16
sure yeah probably
if it was registered pre- ban, you could technically pay the stamp and keep it automatic, but you aren't allowed to open carry a pre-85 transferable machine gun per NFA

[wide scaffold]

Egyptians AK's are probably the only ones that you have, russian AK's are much more rare

[wide scaffold]

M16 wasn't banned the supply for civilians was just frozen

[wide scaffold]

And of course, better

I wish we had AK-74 in the game

[calm carbon]

Nah a lot of AKs we got back when we were a soviet style military were A mix of Yogslav polish Chinese Soviet Hungarian etc
They are definitely still present today

[calm carbon]

Unfortunately the AK-74 is the most forgotten AK by any game dev

[wide scaffold]

Any game dev you say

[calm carbon]

Sorry meant to say many

[wide scaffold]

Yeah r6 got ak 74

It's funny how game developers make ak 47 which is basically impossible to find in a working state

Yet civilians or terrorist groups use AKM

And military actually use AK-74

😭

[calm carbon]

Yeah
My grandfather's AKM which is much younger than those AK47s
Was rusty asf

[gritty coyote]

ak-47 just has wider market share due to economy and logistics. ak-74 came a bit too late

[wide scaffold]

Im pretty sure AKM is used much more than actual ak 47 no?

[calm carbon]

Not to mention the AK-74 coming meant that the AKM was found in larger Quantities

[stable kernel]

Wrong channel for this

“Wrong channel for this” does not mean continue talking about it

[wide scaffold]

Sooo the leaviathan mission sucks

It really does

Yeaahhh

Right

[gritty coyote]

there are many things worse than that mission

[coarse oak]

Did anyone manage to do the "My eyes it burns" achievement. i try this for ages now -_ - very annoying. Is this doable in multiplayer?

[prisma adder]

whats the difference between shotgun breach and ram

ig ram can stun if someone is right behind?

if anyone dies you dont get s rank iirc

[rocky plover]

yea but still seems to be bugged to unlock - try near vault area in all gods burn map, best place for it to work it seems

if you manage to arrest him before he gets shot and killed by his team, you still get S, but if he dies before you arrest him, sadly you don't get S

[coarse oak]

i tried in this bloody map. but somehow i cannot manage to do. i flash enemies. i make them go to the gas cannister. i shoot, but i think i am just too slow or somethin

i read that it can be bugged in this map and that you need to do in that map with the clowns

[rocky plover]

i had tried over 30 attempts in the pier map and it wasnt working, then i did another couple tries in the lobby of the bank and it didnt work either, then i did a few tries in the vault area, and as soon as i restarted the achievement popped up

but ye it is super buggy

[coarse oak]

do you think that you need to actually play through the mession? cause i read that it will pop instant

also do you know if maybe its easier to to in multiplayer with friends?

[rocky plover]

dont think so as for me it unlocked after i restarted, as soon as map started again it unlocked

some other guy also got it after he quit to main menu

[coarse oak]

wierd

such an annoying design -_-

[rocky plover]

yeah it's kinda bugged

#❗known-issues-and-fixes it's listed here, so should get fixed soon

[coarse oak]

me and my friends worked hard for 100% 😄 i hope they will fix it soon. I guess I will wait than

thx so much for your help

[rocky plover]

probably not as they would just steal your kills tbh

[sudden thorn]

honestly cs gas is really fun to use it’s honestly quite underrated too

[coarse oak]

do you need to use gas grenade?

not the tank in the lobby?

[sudden thorn]

Only play multiplayer with friends or you’ll be put with randoms who rush through doors on a lethal obsession

[rocky plover]

you need to take damage from toxic gas, not from cs gas, so dont use gas mask either

[coarse oak]

wait. what gas does actually work? I only used the silver tanks in the mission, cause people in videos used that

[rocky plover]

also make sure before you start killing the suspects, they are not stunned, wait until the stun is over

they need to be 'active'

[coarse oak]

can i kill them?

[restive cloak]

beanbag launcher or pepperball gun for s rank?

[rocky plover]

ye that is the toxic gas canisters

[rocky plover]

yes

[coarse oak]

well than it was bugged for me i think

[rocky plover]

m32a1 flash launcher if you have it, if not then beanbag, pepperballs kinda suck

[coarse oak]

thx full metal. I played mission in quick play. does that work?

[rocky plover]

yeah or multiplayer friends only and go solo

[rocky plover]

try this way, bypass the lobby area of bank - get to vault asap
throw flashbang just where the stairs end - there's a gas canister on a chair in the middle, should be able to have more than 3 suspects there. quickly go to the gas canister while suspects are stunned. wait a bit for the suspects to become active again, shoot gas canister, start taking gas damage (lung icon starts flashing on UI), and quickly kill the suspects

[wide scaffold]

Ram is bigger and has unlimited ammo but shotgun is smaller with limited ammo but can also kill suspects

[gritty coyote]

shotgun can open doors from far away. ram makes you very vulnerable to bumrush

[rocky plover]

plus the switch speed is slow with ram, so if you're solo a breach shotgun would be more ideal

plus a ram leaves a hole in a wooden door which i really hate tbh

[gritty coyote]

the annoying thing is that breach would be perfect with a mirror gun to know which room is worth breaching

but you can't take both

[rocky plover]

ye true

[prisma adder]

im talking in context with bots

bots are my human shields

[gritty coyote]

then you mirror. let them breach

[ocean steeple]

i S ranked new america finally on standard

its time for me to go into retirement

[prisma adder]

yeah but my question is if its worth bring both and what does each even do thats different

[gritty coyote]

just don't breach booby trapped doors

[rocky plover]

not that much of a difference then, breach shotgun has slightly better morale drain, but is ofc louder than a ram which increases stress

also with breach shotgun they still need to kick the door to open it further

[restive cloak]

since im doing it with an npc team should i have them use the launcher too?

[rocky plover]

yes ofc

[winter sphinx]

Noob tube lol

Just gas everything . Works better .

[gritty coyote]

enemies immune to gas

[molten vine]

@limpid wren tryna play group again?

[winter sphinx]

Taser work. Jk

[coarse oak]

i guess i will give this a try again. so annoying

[rocky plover]

ye i feel your frustration, i had like over 50 attempts in total before it unlocked for me

and im pretty sure i was meeting criteria each time

[gritty coyote]

the lengths people go to for a virtual achievement

[rocky plover]

especially when it's the last ach for 100% XD

wait till you do P.P xD

ANA on hard, completely solo without AI

why you doing ironman in non lethal, making it harder for yourself

i did them together, but i didnt do it non lethal

just lethal, way easier and safer

and probably faster

[distant rose]

Do suppressors reduce enemy detection when shooting?

[rocky plover]

no same range as unsuppressed - 20m (50m on ANA)

[timber jolt]

Hey just asking a quick question why are there like no female characters to play as my wife was a little disappointed about that but she still plays

[distant rose]

Mods exist

I saw a few that added female characters i think, dunno if they work

[timber jolt]

Thank you

[distant rose]

Damn. So they exist only to look cool then ig

[rocky plover]

and for making use of stress mechanics, because suppressors reduce stress by half per gunshot

[distant rose]

Np (they may not work, i dont know if theyre updated for BP or not but i just remember seeing some)

[distant rose]

Ah ok

[coarse oak]

where can you see the bug report?

[distant rose]

Didnt know that

[rocky plover]

#1050535723087958156

[prisma adder]

is there a resource to find more information about stress and moral?

[rocky plover]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143

[prisma adder]

thanks

[rocky plover]

you're welcome

[coarse oak]

thx mate. i sowhow cannot find the report for that achievement

[rocky plover]

there's 3, just type my eyes it burns and they should pop up

[coarse oak]

k thx

[rocky plover]

👍

[storm belfry]

Run Thank you Come again Non-Lethal

[rocky plover]

just swap officers around and send them to therapy to avoid that

[storm belfry]

Therapy?

Never heard of er!

[rocky plover]

[coarse oak]

did the achievement pop up for you after several tries?

[rocky plover]

ye, as soon as i restarted it popped up

[storm belfry]

7 runs, 7 runs is all I can spare you

[coarse oak]

but it took you like 50 attempt? -_-

[rocky plover]

yea, that's why it's definitely buggy

[coarse oak]

i see. thx mate

[rocky plover]

you're welcome

[storm belfry]

@rocky plover whats your favorite mission to do Metal

[rocky plover]

hmm that's a hard question ngl, can't choose just 1 lol

[prisma adder]

do ai teammates get affected by recoil

[rocky plover]

no

[storm belfry]

give me like a top 5

Also the kit #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message how shit is this @rocky plover?

CS gas and 9 bangs

With the CS gas Launcher cause I ain't no flash user

[rocky plover]

good but no gas mask ? xD

[rocky plover]

also idk i have to think about the top 5 thing, im so sleepy rn xd

[storm belfry]

Aura farm walk through gas

[rocky plover]

i see lol

[scarlet flax]

Sinuous Trail for me!

Have many memories from OG meat grinder mod before 1.0 release.

[frail lark]

You shall see red and the suspects shall know no mercy

[gritty coyote]

my favorite mission is hunger strike
because it's quick, chaotic, violent

takes just 3 minutes before you either win or retry for better outcomes

much better than how long Elephant or Mirage at sea is

[queen bridge]

Hello everyone! Although I’ve been on this server for a few years now, this is the first time I’ve posted here, so I apologise if this isn’t the right place to ask this :))

Yesterday I started a new game and when I completed Hide and Seek, the headquarters switched straight to the one from the Boiling Point DLC, and I wanted to know if anyone knows of a way to make the change happen gradually (in order). This morning I managed to do it by deleting some files and posted it on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1s7evwn/comment/ojkdqdj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button), but I don’t know if there’s another ‘official’ way and I haven’t heard of it

[gritty coyote]

it is a commonly requested feature. If there was an official way people wouldn't bother doing manual files

[queen bridge]

Ight then, thanks!

[earnest kiln]

Just a rant but damn I tried playing online for the first time after beating commander mode. I was expecting at least communication but everyone just run and gun on hard mode and die.

[warm talon]

Yep that's random public lobbies for ya

[frail lark]

I swear there is one guy on valley of the dolls that is just built different, two times in a row I died because some guy ate 3-5 beanbags in a row and still shot me through the beanbag spam

[warm talon]

Yep. I had a guy on literally the second mission eat 4 flash grenades and didn't get down till I I tazed him 3x . 2 like darts and one melee

[rough flume]

is there a mod where u can switch shoulders with ur weapon so u can check left and right corners without exposing to much of ur body ? i hope u guys know what i mean

[warm talon]

Honestly idk as I'm on console but I would use free lean or free look

Better than getting a mod that could ruin your game.

[earnest kiln]

How i find people that want to play tactical? I don't ever see anyone asking that in the looking for player group.

[earnest kiln]

If I know it's only one guy ( hard) I sometimes hit with bean bag and get close to melee at least once. Usually works better than shooting a lot.

[rough flume]

i mean its basic cqb tho to use right shoulder for left corners and left shoulder for right corners no ?

[frail lark]

I also tried that but he immeditaly recovered and insta killed me point blank chest shot through steel armour...

[rough flume]

like switching hands for holding weapon i mean

[warm talon]

Well I try to be tactical with my mates.

[earnest kiln]

Pray you get a lucky run also works brother.

[obtuse sequoia]

Yeah it’s impossible to play multiplayer with randoms

[earnest kiln]

Yeah I've come to be disappointed by it now. Was expecting constant communication like on pubg.

[balmy patio]

it depends on how you want to approach the game

theres the usual which is semi RP and slow tactical lobbies even on pubs

then theres the metagaming players

they have put alot of hours so they can deal with it without doing it the tactical way

so it just depends if you care about score and doing good or playing the tactical part

if you are fine with metagaming or not

[earnest kiln]

The first one. I don't intend for meta or caring if we get an s rank or not i already got s on everything. Just want to play for a tactical vibe

[balmy patio]

yeah like

im sort of in the middle, i take the tactical approach and not just speedrun run and gun the whole mission but

i will not be just communicating every single step that i do or do a 50 step plan or whatever it is not that deep

[warm talon]

I tend to find the mission that controls the way I take missions. If it is a big map, most of it I'll do tactical till I know there is only one or 2 suspects. If the map is like lethal obsession size I tend to go guns blazing

[obtuse sequoia]

I’m down to play

[loud dagger]

I can't surrender this guy and he won't shoot at me as I'm trying to s-rank the level "sell cheap, buy twice" and I didn't bring a beanbag, so I can't kill him either.
what do I do?

[quasi coral]

Flash em flash em

Hit em with your gun, beat em

[gritty coyote]

Use the melee button

What was your s rank plan anyway

[unkempt granite]

i got all achievements now, EXCEPT Big Shell Specialist, My Eyes, It Burns! and Programmed Psychosis, any tips for those?

[hollow nova]

hey me too son

best way to get big shell specialist 2026 may 2nd 10:37pm est

[balmy patio]

thats why u bring the taser dawg

always have one slot, the taser will un soft lock most scenarios

only one it doesnt is the FISA agent in that one spot on greased palms, u just gotta kill him and reset if that happens

[loud dagger]

thanks for the information

[coral dagger]

Dev team plays too much airsoft

[lost inlet]

Lul.

[woeful dove]

ever taken damage but ur armor didint do shit

straight up died with no limb damage even

[lost inlet]

Triple tap headshot.

[gritty coyote]

Freak chance. But enemies in this game fire full auto

Full auto headshots = over

[tacit gull]

if you get unlucky enough for the ai to target your head they will two tap you on both standard and hard

[bronze sequoia]

Is A New America a little bugged or something? The suspects should NOT be tanking 2 to 3 slugs from point blank, or 4-5 from a distance. I get some of them have good armor, but to take a full mag of 7.62x51 and still be walking away unscathed is insane

[gritty coyote]

They die from 2 5.56 nato rounds to the chest

Consult the spreadsheet

#👮ron-discussion message

[bronze sequoia]

Something has to be messed up, there's no way a guy tanks 2 slugs point blank and is fine but 5.56 puts them down in the same amount of shots

[lost inlet]

Lvl4 lets them tanks up to 4 shots of slug if i remember correctly.

[gritty coyote]

Slug is no good against lv4

As in the sheet

You will have better luck using buckshots and aiming at legs

[bronze sequoia]

And that 7.62x51 gun does less damage than 2 5.56 shots?

[tacit gull]

the slug doesnt penetrate

[gritty coyote]

If you hit limbs they won't die

[lost inlet]

1 shot of 7.62x51mm does less damage than 2 shots of 5.56, yes.

[gritty coyote]

The arms for instance

[bronze sequoia]

It was a full mag though, to the chest
Idk much about bullets but that doesn't sound right

[lost inlet]

Respectfully, you missed your entire magazine.

[gritty coyote]

Check replay

[bronze sequoia]

No way did I miss the entire 30 rounds when he was point blank

[gritty coyote]

You could if recoil is bad

[lost inlet]

Full auto battle rifle is a bad idea in every case.

Especially if you’re using the ones with higher recoil.

[gritty coyote]

I generally recommend g36c if you want to play full auto

[tacit gull]

why even bother lmao

[gritty coyote]

Literally laser beam

[lost inlet]

That’s what i’m saying.

[bronze sequoia]

Maybe it's just our aim but we've had better luck with shotguns than rifles

[bronze sequoia]

I mean what choice do I have when I have 1 guy to my left who charges through the door mid-heal and 1 guy to my right who i have to watch

[gritty coyote]

I alternate between shotgun and rifle myself

[lost inlet]

Use your swat bots to covers the threshold.

[gritty coyote]

Get a good rifle that can do full auto without missing

G36C or MCX

[bronze sequoia]

Not AI, we did it with a full team once and got decimated. I honestly don't think I could do this myself with AI

[gritty coyote]

Get vertical recoil attachments. Practice in range with spraying

And most importantly, do not panic in real game

[lost inlet]

Don’t overextend yourself and let your team covers i guess.

[gritty coyote]

We all panic but keep cool and center your aim

I can now catch sudden sidestrafing john wicks with my horizontal spray

[bronze sequoia]

I mean if we're being honest I don't care what kind of armor you have, being hit with a slug that basically has the barrel a foot away, you aren't just running away like you got tickled, that's going to hurt

[gritty coyote]

Adrenaline and gameplay. Just think of it like that

[lost inlet]

Yeah but this is ready or not, not real life.

[bronze sequoia]

And Ready or Not has had the same issues since early access, some things shouldn't be a problem if you're going for "realistic tactical gameplay"

And the game has been out this long

[lost inlet]

EA slugs was a lot worse than what it is now so be grateful i guess.

[tacit gull]

you are not "adrenaline" ing a shot that can blast you on your ass from force alone

its blunt force damage is just not a thing in ron

[lost inlet]

I like how majority of people using adrenaline as a excuse to just nuh uh a shot is fucking hilarious and moronic as hell.

[bronze sequoia]

it's not just the ammo, the AI has always been inconsistently insane or bad. They're either shit and miss every shot or will 180 2-tap you from across the room with a wall in the way

[gritty coyote]

I'm already dealing with john wick with 360 awareness noscope

[tacit gull]

like that slug might not penetrate but its sure gonna feel like you're getting penetrated alright

[lost inlet]

Ayo.

Pause.

[tacit gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1366137767507263609/1423033506514210927/punch.gif

[gritty coyote]

Anyway is there a clip of an enemy eating a slug and not being stunned?

[tacit gull]

considering its based on chance its very likely

[gritty coyote]

If that can happen, I'll just rather use rifles

[lost inlet]

If hitting in the limb, yeah. If hitting in lvl4 plate then it’s a guarantee stun.

[tacit gull]

is it guaranteed on plate even on hard?

[bronze sequoia]

I just recorded an entire session that has that happen but I'll have to scrounge through it because it was about 3 or so hours

[gritty coyote]

Another reason that buckshot is superior
Buck kills on limb and stuns on chest

[lost inlet]

Should be.

I don’t think stagger chance is changed based on difficulty.

[tacit gull]

considering the game cuts stun timers in half with no animation changes you'd kind of expect it

[rocky plover]

It is, the chance is halved on hard

[lost inlet]

oh damm.

let me console the bible of RoN.

[rocky plover]

[lost inlet]

funny how .50 JHP has 12.5% chances of staggering but AP variant is a guarantee.

[rocky plover]

Yeah lol .50AE AP is good on limbs as well lol

I guess .50AE JHP is only good for being 1 shot instead of 2 shots on limbs

[lost inlet]

okay, the bible said staggering chances on bare flesh bit got halved but nothing is said about staggering chance on armor hit.

[rocky plover]

Oh I see I thought it's for both since it said it got halved

Didn't see the part where it specified on which part

Makes sense though cos I pretty much was always staggering with buckshot on L4 plates on hard

[storm belfry]

Lets take a look👀

[tacit gull]

👀

[deft gyro]

why is this game only using 30% of my gpu so now i have like only 30 fps

[vale plume]

This game needs a new upgrade

[obtuse sequoia]

Does anyone have any tips for trying to S rank relapse?

[robust dove]

use the flash launcher

[vale plume]

Didn’t this discord got a new upgrade

[obtuse sequoia]

I don’t know if imma have enough flashes

[robust dove]

flash launcher 7 flashes and one taser is my to go

and it went pretty good

[vale plume]

This discord has a restriction of cussing 🤬

[obtuse sequoia]

Isn’t there like 15 suspects tho

[robust dove]

thought there was more

as long as you play slow is pretty chill the only hard places ill say are the hallway full of glasses that connect the 2 buildings and the bomb rooms

[obtuse sequoia]

okay

[robust dove]

wich gun are u using

i always go with the shotgun

[glass heart]

you get 6 for free and each additional grenade takes one slot

this means you can take up to 19 of them while being sufficiently armored (this is just one player, your swat ai have an infinite amount of them)

[dense coral]

just took me 38 mins to complete Relapse because I had to backtrack all the way towards nearly where i started to find a civvie i had missed

[cedar prairie]

yo whats the side objectives in greased palms

doing a rank because its as realistic i can lowk get

does the fisa agent even surrender or do i just shoot him

[dense coral]

Flash launcher is goated for it so you can get him to surrender

in the back of the map in a truck theres a gun stash you can report as side obj

i cant remember if theres another

[sudden thorn]

what’s everyone’s favourite primaries ive been changing them around a lot and I want to see what weapon could be labelled the definitively best primary obviously not counting rotary flash launcher
Already tried the arn, sa58 and 6.5, id say as of now it’s either the arn or 6.5

[fallen osprey]

full auto mp7 with the suppressor
i like how it sounds and its really effective

[sudden thorn]

I’ll try that out

[sudden thorn]

What attachments specifically would you say are the most optimal, I usually just go for vertical recoil reduction

[fallen osprey]

i like the vertical grip and suppressor, then i use the laser, m600v flashlight and SRO dot (though mostly i point aim)

pretty much a laser if you fire in bursts

[sudden thorn]

alright I’ll try that out in a minute

[fallen osprey]

best of luck

[sudden thorn]

I usually run full ap with every gun so I’ll run ap with that

[sudden thorn]

I’ve really begun to like the 4X sight not just because of the recoil reduction but I do think it’s just handy to have

Slightly zooms in at x1 zoom and has a 4x zoom for those maps with long distance fights it’s good

[fallen osprey]

it does take a few shots to kill a guy though which is why i like using full auto, fair warning

[sudden thorn]

Also has iron sights on top if you don’t fancy that

[sudden thorn]

will do that

I will try it out single fire though i want to see how both modes run

ive been using 9 bang grenades those are definitely the best grenades with cs gas close behind

best sidearm is obviously the mkv but that feels like cheating so I settled with the five seven

[cedar prairie]

shot him in the stomach

dude i hate my own ai teammates accidentally killing a civi

[dense coral]

i always just full non lethal tbh

flash launcher + .357 (only if i need it) and 4 beanbag shotguns on the AI

[fallen osprey]

They seem pretty good against targets when you can see them, but their really small radius doesn't help AI teammates or when you're blindly flashing rooms

[vale plume]

👍

[dense coral]

SR16 Ive always liked

[fallen osprey]

I take 'em but I've never really used them, too long to get them out, pull the pin, throw em, especially because the G keybind just picks out a normal flash

[sudden thorn]

Ill try that out after the mp7

I’ll just use the same attachments if possible aiming for vertical recoil reduction

[vale plume]

MCX is better

[sudden thorn]

It has really little recoil

Mp7 is looking good I’ll go into a mission to test it

Against armoured people and non armoured people

[vale plume]

I like mp7 but it’s better in cqb

[fallen osprey]

yeah against armored people, one burst and they'll either surrender or keel over

oh note for the mp7: i like it also because if you shoot a civilian with it they won't instantly die

so no unauthorized use of force :D

[vale plume]

Even like that it’s still unsafe

[sudden thorn]

Right now id say the best loadout to use is 4 primary ap mags, 2 secondary ap mags, 4 nine bangs and one c2, wedge and lockpick gun with a mirror gun

maybe I could swap out the lockpick gun for another primary mag

[vale plume]

Go JHP OTM

[sudden thorn]

but I like it being silent

jhp sucks half the time no thanks

[vale plume]

How about try it to do more flesh penetration

It won’t blow through cover

Even if won’t penetrate armor doesn’t mean it’s worthless

[gritty coyote]

The best weapon overall is g36c

Compact. Low recoil. Two hit kills everything on hard

[sudden thorn]

I’ll try that and the mcx too

mp7 is good though so far tried it on 23 megabytes it’s good

Will test against armoured people now

[gritty coyote]

Mcx has a bit higher recoil. In 2nd or 3rd place

[sudden thorn]

I don’t play hard but that’s nice

[vale plume]

I guess that 300

MCX also has 556

[sudden thorn]

best gun right now is either the arn-180 or 6.5 creedmore

[gritty coyote]

You can read the spreadsheet to know how many hits to kill

[sudden thorn]

6.5’s negatives are that while it does one shot knockout it has ten less bullets in a mag and is quite long

[gritty coyote]

#👮ron-discussion message

[sudden thorn]

Nice

[vale plume]

What is that message ?

[gritty coyote]

Spreadsheet

[vale plume]

Ok

DMR sucks

[gritty coyote]

G36c is the most optimal gun.
But we all larp anyway so

[vale plume]

MCX is reliable

[gritty coyote]

Some just pick hk416 despite no advantages

[vale plume]

I like 416

[cedar prairie]

dont hab mic @dull egret

[sudden thorn]

mp7 is an alright gun im done testing that out

Will try the sr16 now

[cedar prairie]

lets run some s ranks then? @dull egret

[sudden thorn]

It’s got quite low recoil I like this already

Will try it out on twisted nerve for the unarmoured people

[cedar prairie]

you on steam @uneven stone ?

[rocky plover]

2nd lowest recoil AR quite good, but a bit long compared to g36C, f90, MCX

All great AR's btw ^

[cedar prairie]

yall how do you genuinely fix accuracy mines on 8 HAHAHAHAHAHHA

i cannot be that bad when i literally hit or kill ever suspect

😭

[sudden thorn]

It’s okay so far I’ll try it against armoured people now

If anybody else has any primaries they think are really good tell me here so I can try them out later

I’ll do the mcx next and then the g3

[hoary fox]

bruh my acc is so low because i do suppressive fire XD

literally 0

[sudden thorn]

sr16 is alright trying out the mcx now

[silk topaz]

am i going crazy, or MLO (new america) are immune to flashes?
almost all flashes i throw are almost instantly recovered from

for reference, iam trying programmed psychosis Dx

[sudden thorn]

recoil is a bit high compared to the other guns but it isn’t much

[sudden thorn]

Stun time is put in half on hard I believe

[silk topaz]

so it doesnt matter if flashes or stingers, the stun is cut by half?

[sudden thorn]

I believe so yes

[silk topaz]

well good to know iam screwed regardless
thanks

[sudden thorn]

Also what scope would you all say is the best to use, I like using the 4x sight and then sro scope

I do like the 510c though and the srs

[silk topaz]

i usually stick to SRO dot
if its not available, SRS
if its too big and blocking too much, 510C

[sudden thorn]

I use the 4x scope for the vertical recoil reduction

ive come to like the optic for it regardless

[hoary fox]

brother, i may ask. why so focused on low recoil?

[sudden thorn]

most of the other attachments giving boosts like faster ads and accuracy don’t really matter

May as well just go low recoil that’s definitely the best

[dawn mountain]

Just finished S ranking all base game missions. It was tough, but flash launchers and tasers got me through it

[hoary fox]

i would use the 4x scope but... the optics don't blur like irl
sope's housing then tends to obstruct a lot

[hoary fox]

aaaaaaay, nice

[dawn mountain]

Now it's time for the DLC missions

[hoary fox]

i pray fro your sanity in BP missions, same for Three Letter Triad

[dawn mountain]

I'm least excited for Mirage at Sea

[sudden thorn]

mcx is alright I’ll try the g3 now

[sudden thorn]

ANA is pretty easy with the flash launcher

[dawn mountain]

Thank you lol

[dawn mountain]

Primarily because they execute hostages

[cedar prairie]

can anyone help me why wont my steam launch the game

[sudden thorn]

One of the spawn points has you already near the main target so you can quickly arrest him and stop the order to kill civilians

They also kill civies on no good deed

[cedar prairie]

it crashed then when i click play it says synchronizing cloud launching executable then just doesnt launch

[hoary fox]

any mods?

[cedar prairie]

none

[dawn mountain]

Alright

[sudden thorn]

I believe it’s the upper deck

[coarse osprey]

yes, i am a mod

oh you meant game mods probably

[hoary fox]

no, not asking for mod's presence XD

[sudden thorn]

Although ive forgotten i dont play that level much the layout annoys me

[cedar prairie]

yo it wont open

help

[coarse osprey]

[hoary fox]

check gpu drivers, sometimes it may be some bullshit issue

if that don't work then reinstall

[sudden thorn]

after this I’ll try both the arn and 6.5 and see which is truly better

might be the 6.5 im liking that gun a lot

[hoary fox]

sexy design, good balance between 300 BLK and 7,62x51

[cedar prairie]

gpu is good so its either i have to reinstall or steam gone to shit

[sudden thorn]

I love the one shot kos with ap

Low recoil too

[cedar prairie]

ill try my other games then ill check it out if it works or not

[hoary fox]

verify the files also

[sudden thorn]

what level has the highest armoured suspects I’ll test them on that

Isn’t it carrier of the vine

[hoary fox]

three letter triad i do believe

[sudden thorn]

I’ll test it on that then

[hoary fox]

but if you're asking for standard.... relapse or hide and seek

[sudden thorn]

Or those

[cedar prairie]

oh right i havent done this 😭

[hoary fox]

on a completely unrelated note: 75% jack 25% coca cola at 10am was not a good idea

[dawn mountain]

The flash launcher based build gives me far more confidence than any other loadout with a gun lol

Probably the AoE

[hoary fox]

i'm the orange shotgun purist

[dawn mountain]

Fair

I'll probably switch to that when I get to BP

[hoary fox]

i beg for MSBS Grot and FB Beryl... please

[sudden thorn]

g3 actually does pretty good against unarmoured people

will test it on relapse for armoured people

[hoary fox]

7,62x51 - it fucks everything up

[sudden thorn]

I’m also running full ap I don’t run jhp id rather have better armour penning then tissue damage

[gritty coyote]

They actually bypass half the game

No need for gunplay. Just rotary bang bang

[dawn mountain]

More than half lol

Went through all of base game with them

[dawn mountain]

The MK-V with JHP is peak though

[sudden thorn]

Feels like cheating with that gun I use five seven

[dawn mountain]

Fair

I like the 2011 personally

[hoary fox]

switch glock, also 9mm but faaaast

[dawn mountain]

Yeah lol

[gritty coyote]

Any pistol is ok as long as it doesn't have the awful racking animation upon first use

That is just BS

we are in life or death situation when we need the pistol. Rack before mission starts

[dawn mountain]

I just bring my secondary out when I spawn in to turn the laser on

[hoary fox]

gonna go raider p320, pray for me

[sudden thorn]

That should just be put in the sidearm category tbh

[gritty coyote]

Less than pointless

[hoary fox]

ON IDES OF MARCH

[gritty coyote]

What's that thing even for

[sudden thorn]

To make you look stupid

Honestly the g36c is really good I didnt expect it to be so

Will use the arn on carrier of the vine and 6.5 on 3 letter triad now to compare them both

[gritty coyote]

G36C is just broken

No real downsides

[sudden thorn]

One shot ko without armour is nutty

It’s a good gun

[hoary fox]

raider p320... low recoil... against suspects with no armor it's a beast, has the sro dot

also, mobile and agile as fuck

[glass heart]

it looks cool thats it

[glass heart]

yeah but literally any rifle does better ballistically and also they have full auto

the p320 is a gimmick

even submachine guns outperform it handily

[hoary fox]

a silly, cursed primary

[glass heart]

yeah thats its purpose xd

[glass heart]

5.56 cant do that except for headshots lol

7.62 nato however can (on standard)

[chilly thorn]

Ump45 deals more damage then 5.56 cuz its so goated

[gritty coyote]

Not a fan of red dot. Hard to see on light background

[glass heart]

common mk18 W (front sight post can be used under flashlights just fine)

[gritty coyote]

I wonder why sr16 can not have front sight along with optic

[sudden thorn]

arn’s good I’ll test out the 6.5 on three letter triad now

[sudden thorn]

To be fair I don’t play on anything but standard so that’s good for me

[gritty coyote]

SR16 is just AR variant

But front sight requires giving up optics

[ionic river]

Why is G36C so good?

[sudden thorn]

it’s built different

[gritty coyote]

Zero recoil. Short as hell

[sudden thorn]

Also one shot kos unarmoured people with AP

I believe so

[gritty coyote]

Weapon balancing is whacked

[sudden thorn]

True

[gritty coyote]

Damage is based on caliber. It's the same for all 556 rifles

Only difference would be recoil and length

Fire rate doesn't matter

[ionic river]

I see, thank you. I havent played since the optics changes. Are the optics still just 1x red dots for it?

[gritty coyote]

It has holo sights

I mainly use the last one

[sudden thorn]

I fully believe that the 6.5 rifle is the best primary in the game outside of rotating flash

one shot knockouts on unarmoured and low armoured people

two to knock out heavily armoured people it’s a beast

Run that with vertical grip, sfmb brake and 4x scope and there’s essentially no recoil

Considering the two shot knockout at most

[gritty coyote]

Standard or hard

On hard all rifle rounds are the same

Only on standard are some calibers different in number of shots to kill

[sudden thorn]

standard I don’t ever play hard

might be better or worse on hard but I couldn’t care to be honest

[worthy zodiac]

just get jhp ump 9mm and hs them bro

🥹

it has burst mode

with 0 recoil\

0 difference between semi and burst tap so u shoot 3 headshots in basically same time and same effects and it oneshots mos

Most

[lost inlet]

headshot is already a instaincap for suspect anyway.

why would you need to spend 2 more shots just to achieve the same result with just 1 shot.

[gritty coyote]

If you have time to aim for headshot even a pistol works

The real money is in the life and death quickdraw situations where sidestrafing john wick is on your ass and your screen is shaking like mad and you hardly see anything

That's when a good horizontal spray is needed and you aim torso

[torpid onyx]

the ump feels so lethargic to use I hate it 🥀🥀

[marble flume]

Thats why I like the G18c on full-auto to really send a message downrange lol

[torpid onyx]

i love when a suspect manages to shoot me without even looking in my direction

[balmy patio]

That could be an argument until hard mode pops up

[sudden thorn]

fuck hard mode

[balmy patio]

In hard the best one is just the GA51

Same damage and stuff as the other 7.62 battle rifles

But with the ergonomics and size of the mp5

Thats a big deal for door breaches

Especially in hard mode where the suspects will not give you the time of day to get your AR or BR out of the way before they double tap you

[gritty coyote]

yeah but then you ask why not just 5.56 if there is no damage threshold difference

[torpid onyx]

is long as FUCK

[sudden thorn]

cut off the barrel entirely

easy solution

[torpid onyx]

like no thank you im not loading up crackhead map with a gun with a 16-20 inch barrel

[sudden thorn]

Use your sidearm

[torpid onyx]

just take the p90 🥀

no surpressor no length

[sudden thorn]

To be honest i did go back to the arn-180 and i do prefer the extra 10 bullets and smaller length a lot

probably do prefer it over the 6.5 and the two shot kill isn’t that much anyway it’s only a single shot more

Yeah id probably say that’s better actually

[torpid onyx]

I can never bring myself to use full length rifles because my movement has been too subconsciously engrained in me to be with an SBR so i end up accidentally forcing myself into high ready

[sudden thorn]

Scar heavy looks so good and I love that gun but it’s way too fucking long

[torpid onyx]

the 6.5 JHP is a 1 shot until l4

[sudden thorn]

I love running that on hide and seek with the 12x scope

[torpid onyx]

6.5 ap is a 2 shot but can penetrate l4

[sudden thorn]

I just use ap entirely to be honest

I’d rather have more armour penning

[torpid onyx]

it's technically useless if there's no level 4 enemies

[sudden thorn]

I would swap it out in that case but im far too lazy

[torpid onyx]

jhp 6.5 and 7.62x51 both 1 shot l3 armour 🥀

the game really makes you think jhp is like useless against anyone with more then a paper towel to protect them except it's like meta in most circumstances

[sudden thorn]

feels like it sometimes

when it works it definitely feels more powerful though

[torpid onyx]

I mean not really unless you're running 5 56 jhp again l3 suspects

it atleast doesn't get the limb debuff like ap

[sudden thorn]

I don’t really memorise what missions have high level armour I just memorise if they have armour at all or not

Just bring ap to be safe

[versed lagoon]

any good lore videos that explane it all?

[torpid onyx]

Soo there's these terrorists and there's these pedos and there's these crackheads and there's these robbers and also judge is a supersoldier

[wooden lintel]

https://youtu.be/vId_GaFfDMo?is=gApHJw9ZeQAGBVmk this covers few missions related to each other

[sudden thorn]

shot a suspect with no armour ten times in the chest and they killed me first

[distant rose]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?pli=1&gid=1878248973#gid=1878248973

[sudden thorn]

thanks

[torpid onyx]

uhhh, sins, neon, elephant, leviathan

those are the only maps you've gotta worry about l4

[sudden thorn]

alr thank you

[torpid onyx]

and neon is only on the named suspect that you're meant to arrest

[sudden thorn]

quadamah

[torpid onyx]

elephant is all l4 though plus increased health

[sudden thorn]

I always shoot that fucker in the face in both neon and relapse

[lost inlet]

don't miss your shot. What map is it anyway?

and what gun and ammo type?

[marble flume]

are you sure he actually didn't have armor? a lot of suspects just seem to have bulletproof clothing

[sudden thorn]

23 megabytes

They definitely had no armour and I landed my shots

[unkempt granite]

ik i'ts been 12 hours but i recomment grabbing the RTWC with a 12x scope and a suppressor and the heliport spawn, also make sure it's on hard and that your weapon FOV is ~50 so the zooming glass of the scope covers most of the screen

[pliant frost]

Try not to use weak ass 9mil

[unkempt granite]

use the MK-V, 5/7, or the USP45, those have high capacity while carrying .45 ACP or a 50 cal i think for the MK-V

what mission are you doing btw?

[pliant frost]

Not 50cal but 50 AE. It is really different

[lost inlet]

.50 AE is .50 cal...

[pliant frost]

Hell nah

[unkempt granite]

the point is thatthe MK-V one shots to the body

[lost inlet]

you do know .50 cal stands for the diameter right? And not the length.

[unkempt granite]

to unarmored suspects that is

[sudden thorn]

I just said it

I don’t like using the mkv much anyway feels like cheating that is

[pliant frost]

Don't tell me these big sniper rifles use the same caliber as a pistol

[sudden thorn]

Same goes for the rotating flash launcher

[unkempt granite]

oh yeah mb, for 23mb i recommend that instead of going through the main gate, on the right there's a staircase, clear the first room there with a well placed stun on the center of the room, and once you clear that go back and to the 3rd floor but this time clear it as normal

[sudden thorn]

I went through there

I always go through there to enter

[sudden thorn]

I did a quick free lean into the small closet I knew a suspect was in and I dump half a mag on him and he kills me first

[lost inlet]

what's the diameter of .50 BMG and .50 AE?

[sudden thorn]

suspects are not only john wick accuracy wise but also the terminator strength wise

[unkempt granite]

use crouch free lean, you cover a lot of your body and sometimes suspects don't even see you

[sudden thorn]

Did that

[lost inlet]

and don't play on hard.

[pliant frost]

The only similarity is diameter lol

[lost inlet]

yep, that's the caliber.

[pliant frost]

Cmom you know what I mean by "it's not the same caliber"... It is not the same bullet, why you're arguing, you literally said ".50 AE is .50 cal...". No it's not lol

[unkempt granite]

idrk what to tell you then, if you want you could use the B1301 since it one shots anyone anywhere really and it's really good for a closed map like 23 mb

or spam the optiwand on every corner

[sudden thorn]

ive been using the lvar recently and I thought ten shots would be more then enough but apparently not

[unkempt granite]

if you're going for an AR, i personally recommend the MCX, it's short so it's optimal for CQC with little to no recoil and it can 2 shot to the chest

[lost inlet]

it would be better if you were more specific. Also .50 AE is .50 cal cause the cal part refers to the diameter of the bullet.

[sudden thorn]

I was using the arn but I hate running the best things optimal it makes me feel like I have no life

[pliant frost]

No it's not the same bullet

[sudden thorn]

lvar looks cool so I used that

[unkempt granite]

are you on commander mode? you could try to give red or blue steel heavy + shields and have them rush inside before you and the other team

[sudden thorn]

Multiplayer

Don’t feel like playing that after getting every s rank and ironman

[unkempt granite]

eh fair

[vale plume]

S rank sucks

[unkempt granite]

you could just wait for 4 people to join your team since atleast from my experience 5 players never really fail a mission

[lost inlet]

you can search up yourself if you don't wanna believe.

[pliant frost]

I'm not an ignorant, so yes, I checked.

[sudden thorn]

I love how when I put on greased palms everyone leaves immediately but with a new america everyone readies up immediately

makes sense

[unkempt granite]

greased palms and hide and seek have bad fame since they're long maps where most enemies are too far for shotguns but are able to see you somehow, ANA is cqc so

[sudden thorn]

Hide and seek is all good I don’t have people leave when I put that on usually

[lost inlet]

[brazen gull]

guess Im waitin until update fixes, c2 gas/flashbang grenades are ignored by perps and they just shoot

[plush sequoia]

is there a best pistol or are they all good?

[tacit gull]

fuck no, either use the g18c for highest ammo no recoil and full auto or the mkv for literally the highest damage gun in the game

[unkempt granite]

if you want i can help you with some missions on mp

[sudden thorn]

Sure why not

my epic username is ShopChef

add me and I’ll invite you, currently hosting a public so we’ll have extra players

[unkempt granite]

sent, my user is VenomHasComeTo

just gimme a sec

[sudden thorn]

got it

Maybe I was too kind on this mission

[tropic bolt]

does anybody know how i can fix the two suspects in my image sent on #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

they are stuck there and i cant arrest them

[rocky plover]

What do you mean can't arrest them? No prompt is showing to arrest?

[tropic bolt]

No

[rocky plover]

Not even trying to get them to move towards you?

From the command menu

[tropic bolt]

i left them alone and they just got up and moved

[marble flume]

I often carry the flash launcher with just the starting six rounds and go for a pistol-heavy loadout

[sudden thorn]

@unkempt granite we broke the detonator we’re gonna have to get the flower man without it

[marble flume]

you can basically use any rifle, just don't run any SMG chambered in a pistol caliber

[rocky plover]

Oh ok, that's good

[unkempt granite]

@sudden thorn we could res

[sudden thorn]

gg

[sudden thorn]

Alright sure

we broke the jammer on accident

knew it was over immediately when that happened

[unkempt granite]

i hate that that can happen

@sudden thorn one thing we could do is not use c2 on the main courtroom door

[sudden thorn]

Let’s do it in a private lobby

Another friend of mine wants to play anyway

[unkempt granite]

kk

[sudden thorn]

We should take it slower

I’ve gotta be careful im wearing no helmet

Actually I’ll change build

[unkempt granite]

@sudden thorn check the map on the 3rd page, where i put some yellow icons are the possible jammer spawns

[sudden thorn]

Roger

I do not see them

But I do remember where the jammer spawns are I know them all

one can be in the press room, one in the conference room and one in the council chamber

@placid grotto @unkempt granite good luck to you both

[sudden thorn]

why was the flower man just standing there like that

aura farming while getting arrested

@unkempt granite should we return to headquarters

[unkempt granite]

wait no i think i found him

[sudden thorn]

I will also be inviting another friend they might want to play

[sudden thorn]

alright

yes good job

NO

[unkempt granite]

you have to be kidding me

[sudden thorn]

mlosers

[unkempt granite]

i hate when they pull back just to rush you

it's the 4th time i lose a run bc of that

[sudden thorn]

Often recently I’ll go to throw a grenade and that’s right when the suspects rush me

Actually pisses me off

[last dawn]

are any of the .300 blackouts better than the rtwc

[sudden thorn]

Hold on my buddy’s ps5 shut down

[sudden thorn]

arn180 is the best rifle

[last dawn]

ok thank you

was running the rtwc because i like the long arm viewmodel lmao

[sudden thorn]

Run sfmb and vertical grip and you have essentially no recoil with two shot kills with ap

[gilded kindle]

the lack of a restart mission button is really annoying

[sudden thorn]

One shot with jhp, jhp also pens up to level 3 armour

Ap goes all the way up to level 5 I believe

Actually I don’t know if there’s a level 5 armour im probably just bullshitting things

[gilded kindle]

I'd say to just go full ap

[last dawn]

does it 2 shot the mlo thats all i need to know

[sudden thorn]

Yes

mlo only have level 3 armour I believe

[last dawn]

ive beaten it thrice except 2 out of 3 always died so we had the last one clutch and we only got a+

fuck AnA

you ever seen someone fuck up a door peek flash and spray and pray using a 5.7

[unkempt granite]

i just died in the most dumb way possible 💔

[sudden thorn]

Rip

[sudden thorn]

What mission do you want to do after kawayu

Not neon tomb though MaKi hates that

[unkempt granite]

can we do all gods burn

[sudden thorn]

Sure

[sudden thorn]

Unready up I can’t change mission

[unkempt granite]

@sudden thorn i gtg but it was fun

[sudden thorn]

Alright goodbye

Was fun playing

[glossy mirage]

ngl wish RON had slightly better running mechanics

like faster sprint with a debuff to weapon aim/raise speed immediately after

[marble flume]

Wish RoN even had a run at all considering how big the maps are

[sudden thorn]

I feel like the low/high ready speed is fast enough to be honest that’s probably a hot take but feel as if it’s fine

[lost inlet]

it just needed to be slightly faster.

like 5-10% more.

[restive cloak]

do i still unlock a cosmetic if i did the mission in multiplayer?

[rocky raptor]

Yeah

[muted bobcat]

Is it good for “A New America”???

[sudden thorn]

Definitely

both ap and jhp rounds for it

[sudden thorn]

Actually yeah that would make sense

[muted bobcat]

Thx bro, I’ll take this info to heart

[frail lark]

I just realized that I've been doing my hard playthrough in casual for some reason for 4 missions in a row...

I can feel my soul leaving my body rn

and I just watched a guy insta recover from a beanbag and insta dome me with a pistol...

[marble flume]

beanbag shotgun
hard playthrough

Beanbags only stun for 1.5 seconds so you gotta be quick on follow-ups if they don't surrender

[rocky plover]

as he said^ and arrest cancel is op - use it, they never get back up after

[marble flume]

well they can, just not with a gun to your head

I think you can do something similar at a distance if you tell them to turn around

[rocky plover]

they never get back up, i've left suspects for over half an hour all over the map and after i got everyone i backtracked to cuff them, and they were all at the same spot lol

[marble flume]

Maybe not with arrest cancel

[rocky plover]

it was with arrest cancel, and i even left the weapons on the ground near them

[mystic palm]

Any tips for programmed psychosis?

[rocky plover]

take it super slow, bait suspects where you can instead of exposing yourself to risky situations, semi auto shotgun with buckshot is pretty op for it, literally use mirrorgun everywhere - under doors, over doors/windows, around doors, around corners etc...

[mystic palm]

And for loadout and cleaning path?

[rocky plover]

clearing path is very situational, and depends on the current situation, such as what doors are closed and open, it's pretty much Plan on the Fly, as for loadout i used light armor with front only steel, 4 slots for buckshot, 1 slot for .50AE JHP for MKV, 6 9-bangs, 1 c2 (pair so you get 2), 1 wedge (pair so you get 2 as well)

there's an ammo refill on the last floor as well behind the top of spiral staircase (be aware if you use it it removes the wedges you had placed before)

[gentle python]

AGB is driving me insane

singlehandedly ruining my mission record 🤣

[rapid delta]

Anyone got tips for relapse S tier? I've ran it about a few dozen times by now and the AI seem to never keep the shield up in a firefight and then sometimes they go do their own thing 🙏

[gentle python]

constantly tell them to fall in and use the flashbang launcher for everyone

[rocky plover]

i'd avoid giving them shield tbh, they keep switching back and forth with it, just give them primary m32a1 flash launcher

[gentle python]

[mystic palm]

Shield for the ai is pretty useless

[rapid delta]

I've only used the launcher main a few times how is it for S tiering?

[gentle python]

literally the best

[rocky plover]

it;s literally the best weapon in the game lol

[rapid delta]

oh ok

[rocky plover]

even for lethal if ya want, with a lethal sidearm hahah

[mystic palm]

M32a1 is the best non lethal for S rank

[rapid delta]

alright ill change up my ai loadouts and try that

[rocky plover]

only downside with it, which shouldn't really be an issue if you're with swat AI is maybe ammo economy with it (for yourself as AI have infinite ammo)

[rapid delta]

alright sounds good, thanks

[rocky plover]

and since they will have flash launcher you dont really need throwable grenades, so stack them with c2 and wedges

they kinda bad at throwing grenades anyways

[rapid delta]

yea they are

[rocky plover]

so use clear with launcher instead

they seem to be a little better with it

[rapid delta]

the amount of times they threw the grenade and it rolled back into me

[rocky plover]

yeah it's annoying

[rapid delta]

alright thanks I'll try it

[rocky plover]

you're welcome n good luck!

[frozen roost]

VOID BRING BACK THE PEPPER SPRAY CRAB WALK IN THE HQ OR WE RIOT

[woeful dove]

how come we only have AP and JHP, not FMJ?

[rocky plover]

funnily enough AP is actually FMJ

[woeful dove]

Full metal is typing

[rocky plover]

and not actual AP

it was written as FMJ back in the old days but it made people confused so they changed it

[woeful dove]

fuckk, stupid people

[rapid delta]

the grenade launcher is indeed the best

[rocky plover]

in the files it's still listed as FMJ hahahah as well

[woeful dove]

damn you unintelligent individuals.

ruining my larp.

[rocky plover]

🤣

[woeful dove]

I hate when developers change shit for the dumb people instead of helping them learn

Full metal jacket = voosh
Jacketed hollow point = ploosh

[woeful dove]

wait so that means I'm using .308 hollow points rn? oh fuck

I'm sorry gas station test dummies

[rocky plover]

what? if with JHP pretty much ye

[woeful dove]

does los suenos pd have more money than most small world countries

[tired jungle]

Gunfighter does change it to fmj

[woeful dove]

fawwwk... I don't wanna use gunfighter 💔

[rocky plover]

i think gunfighter also changes .300 blackout right

from JHP to OTM

[woeful dove]

is it time to swap to gunfighter

[tired jungle]

Yeah

No idea why the otm part but whatever ig

[rocky plover]

and from AP to FMJ

[night vapor]

Hello guys,
does anyone knows how to fix the bug that my weapon acuracy is all at 0, no Im not that bad there should be something like a 30-40 % with the machine gun.

[woeful dove]

which gunfighter component does this

[rocky plover]

open tip match basically

[fast mantle]

Is the combat OST on apple music?

[tired jungle]

Yeah but it isn't even intended for the same purpose as a jhp

[fast mantle]

yes

zach

[woeful dove]

not that I know of, I think majority of the producers songs have the combat section at the 6 minute mark

[rocky plover]

ballistics part

[woeful dove]

aye

130 mods

[rocky plover]

oh true, i guess to make .300 accurate

since it does that with gunfighter

[tired jungle]

What exactly does it do

Iirc it does nerf the damage of the .300 jhp

But like what else

[rocky plover]

correct, makes them true subsonics basically

better on unarmored, worse on armored

i think it makes OTM dont even penetrate L3

while vanilla JHP does

[tired jungle]

Something like that iirc

[rocky plover]

and while FMJ penetrates L4, it still requires way more shots

compared to vanilla AP

[tired jungle]

Does gunfighter change 762x39

[rocky plover]

doesnt mention anything regarding it, and in game its basically a reskin of .300 blackout since it has same stats as it, so idk if it leaves 7.62x39 as vanilla with the mod or nerfs it as well as .300

[night vapor]

<@&1261375241863692321> If one of you could help me, I would be very grateful.

[gritty coyote]

3 letter triad hard solo is difficult

each room has like so many entry points

[rocky plover]

ngl its on par with ANA, if not harder tbh

since its technically the most suspects a map can have (currently)

[woeful dove]

real

[rocky plover]

and they can even bypass most of the wedges with so many holes and gaps in the walls

[gritty coyote]

a safe clearing route has not appeared to me yet

so many spots can be flanked. bastards can change levels just to flank

[rocky plover]

ye its hard to do a single plan that always works on it, it's pretty much a new plan every time lol

pretty much on the fly

[woeful dove]

for stopping power would u guys think FMJ on 556 and .45 acp is ok?

or should I just use AP

I'm going up against the narcos

[tired jungle]

[rocky plover]

fmj and ap is pretty much the same thing in game, or you meant JHP?

[woeful dove]

oh my bad, yeah I hate the fucking rename

teach player in description what it does 🚫 rename it to something it isint ✅

[rocky plover]

hahahha ikr

so you meant using 556 JHP or what?

[woeful dove]

AP >:(

[rocky plover]

oh ye then its ok 556 AP penetrates all armor

.45acp AP would penetrate up to L2 however

[woeful dove]

what about 45 acp JHP

[rocky plover]

just unarmored, doesnt even penetrate L1 armor, better on limbs though

[woeful dove]

is that cause slow round?

[tired jungle]

Slow and fat

[woeful dove]

yummers

[rocky plover]

irl ye but in game even 9mm works like that

[tired jungle]

Squishy

[woeful dove]

squishjy

[tired jungle]

Like sponge

[woeful dove]

hmmm so that's why I was dying even though I was shooting .45acp

but my hollow point 556 is ok yeah?

[tired jungle]

You know just shoot them between the eyes and you don't have to care about ballistics n all that

[gritty coyote]

did you expect pistol to punch through highest armor?

[woeful dove]

I expected to be able to take down a narco with it

without using the whole mag

[rocky plover]

just use 5.7 AP for L3 if you want that lol

or even MK-V AP

[tired jungle]

The suspects in narcos wear l4 iirc

[woeful dove]

I will say though, using the jhp .45 is good for incapacitating suspects

[gritty coyote]

the narco crackheads have higher HP than normal map enemies
they also shoot more accurately the further they are away

they are literally terminators

[rocky plover]

supposed, they are bugged and spawn unarmored, but there;s suspects that spawn with L3

[woeful dove]

what in the fuck super cocain terminator arnold schwarzenegger

[rocky plover]

not to mention as Delerik said about extra HP

[woeful dove]

https://tenor.com/view/kokainum-cocaine-arnie-gif-18319144

[gritty coyote]

if you read the lore (which I don't), they are basically elite assassins

the los locos gang is no joke

[woeful dove]

mind u gas station suspects are too with a revolver

1 tap's entire swat team once in a while

am I hated for loving fingerless glove

[gritty coyote]

how are you gonna plant weapons onto dead civilians with a fingerless glove

[woeful dove]

elbow

fuckass ai keeps 2 shotting me

[calm carbon]

I'm wondering
Is the gore toned down in the console version ?

[distant rose]

iirc gore is turned down for every version because of the console release

i think

[rocky plover]

ye, only post mortem dismemberment tbh which isnt a big of a deal anyways

[distant rose]

(might be wrong but i think it's bc creating seperate versions of the game for console and pc is not that feasable)

[distant rose]

^

[marble flume]

shotguns can dismember on the initial shot though, right?

[rocky plover]

yes, definitely

[vagrant marsh]

Nope, they're sick

[slow jungle]

Getting bumrushed out of nowhere and lit the fuck up when you're in an uncancellable animation is easily the worst part about this game and is an instant Alt+F4 when in Campaign mode

The other absolutely obnoxious part is when your AI is following like a fuckin foot behind you and you get stuck in a room cause their scripting is stupid and can't register that you're trying to get by them so they just stand there

[distant rose]

anyone know what gun the 'Breaching Shotgun' is?

[vagrant marsh]

870 Mcs by the look of it

[vale plume]

I know stuck in mid fight

[woeful dove]

I got 200 mode and no crashes

My only complaints is I keep getting FUCKED no matter what

[distant rose]

Aight thnz

[tired moth]

everyone let me know what loadout they think is the best or use

[rocky plover]

870 mcs ye modified to be short barreled

[distant rose]

Aight cheers

[rocky plover]

👍

[distant rose]

If you dont wanna open the wiki before every game, LVAR or G3A3 with JHP is a solid pick

Effective against targets even with l3 armour

If you want a more controllable AR, the MCX and G36C are solid picks

[slow jungle]

GA51, that Bennelli Semi Auto Shotty, or the AK, Pepperball secondary, miror gun, 4 nine bangs, 2 door wedges, and a lockpick thing

Front/Back and Ceramic Light ARmor

[distant rose]

Why TPL pistol?

[slow jungle]

4 Primary and 2 secondary but tbh I don't think I've ever used more than a mag and a half so I'm thinking of dropping it to Three Primary to carry an extra ninebang

[tired moth]

ill test out both to see but im just looking to find a new loadout to main

[slow jungle]

For when suspects who already dropped their gun decide that now's the time to be obnoxious and just yell "FUCK YOU!!!" instead of follow orders

Also good for if the mission has a Suspect you need to take alive

[distant rose]

I just shoot them cus ive already S ranked everything

[tired moth]

whenever i use pepperball it never works

[distant rose]

Thats just me personally

[tired moth]

when they get back up they usually eat the shots and hit me 4-5 times

[distant rose]

Best against annoying civvies

[woeful dove]

Usp 45 only useful pistol

[distant rose]

5 7?

[woeful dove]

Civvie vs 12 gauge

[slow jungle]

Yea tbh finding a good loadout in this game is kinda hard. They went the realism route of having calibers function identically so it's mostly about gun handling, but then they also didn't really add a good way to quantify that so you just kinda end up guessing with attachments

[distant rose]

Mk5?

[woeful dove]

Overpriced

[distant rose]

Its RoN? There is no price?

[woeful dove]

New ready or not update where you pay for your ammo

[slow jungle]

Yea you need to magdump em in the face if they're actively hostile, if they're not hostile than one tends to work

[distant rose]

Ah ok

[woeful dove]

Lmaoooo

[distant rose]

Honestly for non lethal i use the M32A1 flash

[tired moth]

would the 18c work if i leg tap? or will they die

[woeful dove]

For non lethal I tend to use the sledgehammer

[slow jungle]

I find Ninebangs and Stingers more effective

[tired moth]

the launcher?

[slow jungle]

And funnier

[distant rose]

Ye

[woeful dove]

Can u one tap using breaching tool

[distant rose]

The draw/throwing time tho

[tired moth]

its so broken too bad they didnt release it yet still only people who pre ordered have it im pretty sure

[distant rose]

The launcher?

[slow jungle]

They'd be incapicitated so same points as if they die. Either they surrendered and you get the full 30/35 points or whatever it is, or they fall to the ground in pain and you only get 5

[slow jungle]

I haven't found it to be an issue, I'm not really tossin them in an emergency