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[vivid widget]

plan to go through the dlcs in standard in quick play, is there no point in using anything other than 7.62 rifles for standard?

[jolly verge]

Nope, but all MLO are immune to gas cloud

[jolly verge]

Only Narcos have suspects with extra health, 7.62x51 will oneshot on any other DLC mission on Standart difficulty.

[karmic shale]

i hav a game going but i cantz pause it so m live n i can watch it while m gonee muehehehe m smort

[vivid widget]

gotcha

[karmic shale]

im hearing booms is that bad

im just sitting still but im hearing booms 💔

guys the booms are getting boomier

[cedar mulch]

7.62 is by far the weakest ammunition in Hard mode; it’s not as good as 5.56 or .300

[tired steppe]

I just S ranked every base game mission finally

[hollow frost]

I just unlocked the hermit. can confirm, officers CAN resign and still unlock the achievement. It should more appropriately say "dont have a single officer die"

[tacit gull]

it doesn't give you the watch i dont think

[hollow frost]

Side note, finished hide and seek just now. All officers went from "content" to "crisis" lol

[tacit gull]

yeah that's what happens when you kill everyone

[hollow frost]

LOOK NON LETHAL IS DIFFICULT

[tacit gull]

getting like 3 people in alive is not

[hollow frost]

Especially cuz ai officers wont shoot their dang grenade launchers on sight

I see a gun? thwomp BOOM AAAAAAGGGHH CHRIST MY EYES

Also screw that watch i just wanted the achievement

[lost inlet]

Just use m320…

People often forget how good it is when m32a1 got added and steals the spotlight.

[unkempt granite]

the problem is that the m320 only had 4 rounds without ever being able to give it more

[lost inlet]

Yeah but you don’t have to sacrifice your primary for that.

[opaque zealot]

better in mp imo

since u can rely on ur team to cover while u angle for shots

[unkempt granite]

if i grab a wedge that an SWAT AI placed, does it give it back to them or do i get it?

does it count as a 12th equipment? or do i olse a grenade for the launcher

[opaque zealot]

you only get the wedges you placed

[unkempt granite]

so it just disappears?

and i just got one shotted again

[opaque zealot]

yh

applies to mp aswell

[lost inlet]

You can just use free lean, fire in the general direction or at the floor near the suspect and pops back in cover.

[unkempt granite]

i got iklled within 30 seconds of starting

should i even try to s rank ana hardmode after i just did on standard 💔

[oak crest]

HELL NAH

[unkempt granite]

it wasn't even 30 seconds it was 20

ughhhhhhhh it's the only mission i have left for hardmode srank

and it's like the 3rd time i get shot down in 3 secs

[oak crest]

unless you really like suffering, dont do it

[unkempt granite]

i'm thinking about bringing light armor with all on flashes and the m320 too

[opaque zealot]

how do u actually freelan

[lost inlet]

Alt + WASD.

[opaque zealot]

i never figured out the keybind and ive just been quick enough to make the regular lean work

sick ty

[tacit gull]

the freelean is like the one thing ron does different

[lost inlet]

It will always bothers me how majority of player just don’t know and understands how OP free lean is.

[last dawn]

i witnessed a man abuse it for programmed psychosis and was mesmerized

[rocky plover]

Glad you got it

[unkempt granite]

i heard you could hide your head's hitbox inside the chest/armor one, is that patched?

[tacit gull]

if only we had a tutorial or some kind of training mode to tell us about it

almost feels like whoever made it didnt even consider

[lost inlet]

Never heard of it but it lets you expands your fov beyond your model and hitboxes.

[unkempt granite]

for the heat is on, can i just give my swat flash launchers and make them do everything?

[tacit gull]

I'm pretty sure that's not true

[tacit gull]

yes, they wont be able to clear it anyway, no worries

[lost inlet]

If you do it right, you can even fully expose yourself around the corner and suspect couldn’t even sees you.

[unkempt granite]

even if they're facing me?

[lost inlet]

Yep.

Even when they themselves are around the corner and in kissing range as well.

[unkempt granite]

does that count for mlo dudes?

because if so i might ujst spam free lean on ana

[lost inlet]

Has the tutorial finally included trap?

[lost inlet]

It works on every suspect.

That’s just how enemies AI works.

[tacit gull]

no bro the tutorial hasnt been touched since 1.0

[lost inlet]

[tacit gull]

ok that's not true

they added no shoot barriers on the platforms above

that's about it

[unkempt granite]

i honestly don't see why you'd ened a tutorial for traps, i feel like ALO is already a pretty nice tutorial-mission

and it's not like every mission afterwards has traps so

[tacit gull]

yeah its a great idea to not give the player any heads up on how they work considering the first mode on the play list is the permadeath officers mode

not that them dying matters in the slightest but its just very good game design

[unkempt granite]

TOC says there may be traps at the very start tho

idk if it says too on mission briefing

[tacit gull]

okay? does he explain where they're at? that they're only on single doors? that you need to peek them to disable them?

There's nothing that tells you what to look for the first time you play the game, MOST of the mechanics in this game are like that

The tutorial is wasted breath to explain what you are NOT going to do with ai which is tell them to clear by themselves

[lost inlet]

A reminder that people stills asks how do you disable the traps.

I’m willing to bet that a good chunk of them resort to using high pen gun, go far away from the trap and set it off using the gun instead of just disabling it normally.

[tacit gull]

meanwhile we need a tutorial on how to use cod 4's aiming system lmao

[junior drift]

My video series is done..finally

[junior drift]

Um..sorry to burst your bubble but I actually do use that frequently to close in on suspects from multiple angles

[tacit gull]

That doesn't really do anything to help you

It'll just get the officers to kill themselves

Aswell as get in the way of you having to shoot or bang everyone

[junior drift]

Not if you give them the shield and have the one without use a rifle

I do it on standard a lot. Works great when you know how tf to keep your guys alive

[tacit gull]

Oh especially if you do that since they'll put the shield away the second they reach theend of a room

[junior drift]

No.
They sont

[lost inlet]

Imagine having to give your ai meta equipment just to keeps them alive instead of using them correctly.

[tacit gull]

The shield on the ai is pointless

[junior drift]

Lol morons

"meta" it's called diversifying equipment

[tacit gull]

Especially since the AI will still follow their own paths and not push behidn the shield

[lost inlet]

Woah woah, this is just normal discussion, no calling names and insults here.

[junior drift]

Morons in a friendly manner

[wary plover]

is anyone elses game kicking them out and saying theres a problem with epic servers

[junior drift]

Look, try it by splitting.

Shield bearer gets a shotgun (alpha and Charlie)

Non shield bearer gets a rifle (bravo, Delta)

So when you split them up, they have both CQB and range.

[tacit gull]

yes, welcome to epic matchmaking

[junior drift]

ACCURATE THOUGH FUCK EPIC

[tacit gull]

I don't think i know a single game where epic matchmaking has worked on deployment

[lost inlet]

Or just give them all rifles so they can engages at any range.

[junior drift]

but then what if a suspect closes?

Some rifles aren't meant for close range due to barrel length

[tacit gull]

they shoot him exactly the same

[lost inlet]

They can still shoots their gun…

[tacit gull]

This game is not that deep bro

[junior drift]

Not when the suspect is right in front of them with a knife.

[tacit gull]

If the suspect can knife them (not likely) then the shotgun cant do shit either

[junior drift]

Players when someone else plays it like a SWAT simulator: shocked Pikachu face

[lost inlet]

They’re dead either way if they have a shotgun.

[tacit gull]

right because its not

[junior drift]

Someone was dropped on their head weren't they?

[tacit gull]

very convincing argument

[junior drift]

Speaking of, am I the only one who thinks slugs are absolutely useless?

[lost inlet]

hardcore SWAT simulator.
look inside
How it feels to play as NPC in COD single player

[tacit gull]

hardcore swat simulator but we cant even showcase when suspects are armored

[junior drift]

then just fuck off and find another game? Or play on hard mode

[tacit gull]

listen man you seem to be getting very upset

[lost inlet]

Slugs just gets outclassed by buckshot.

[junior drift]

No it's amusing how miserable you two are

[junior drift]

Pepperball is ass compared to literally anything, including a wet fart.

[lost inlet]

Didn’t hunger strikes first started off as elephant but reskin?

[junior drift]

Like..I have a M32A1 why not just use that.

[junior drift]

Don't think so

[tacit gull]

hunger strike was never meant to be an active shooter map

[lost inlet]

Lvl4 plates, T2 rifles, bombs and active shooter.

Guess i must’ve misremembered.

[tacit gull]

oh yeah that's how void thinks active shooter is more "difficult"

but we cant do suspects with gas masks being immune to cs

[lost inlet]

It is cause your run is RNG based if you wanna get S rank.

[tacit gull]

yeah bro 30 seconds when it takes like 10 seconds just to get to the front door

back in EA fast food had this whole back area with a big ass warehouse

it was supposed to be tied into meth i think

either that or gun smuggling

i swear some lead at void thought "this map is too short so we need to artifically make it more difficult"

what's that? they have shirts on? no they fucking dont those are rifle rated plates are you blind

[lost inlet]

Or with functional helmet.

[sullen lily]

two things: does getting an s rank on a multiplayer lobby private or public count toward medal of honor.
2: I am in agony can someone please help me on s ranking greased palms

[tacit gull]

1 it counts
2 maybe

[sullen lily]

ok

[lost inlet]

Still waiting for mindjolt suspects to actually wears helmet this time, not that it matters anyway cause i’d still dump 2 shot into their chest.

[tacit gull]

no you see the helmet not working is part of the hardcore swat simulation

[sullen lily]

i messed up relapse because i killed a civi

by accident

i fucking hate everything

[tacit gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205760412507840572/1496902701961842790/uncaption-1.gif

[sullen lily]

i hate relapse

i hate greased palms

[tacit gull]

good, they're both dogshit maps

[sullen lily]

i hate buy cheap buy twice

[tacit gull]

https://klipy.com/gifs/goku-prowler-goku--k01KPYS33YYEJH383JR2GC5TG58

[sullen lily]

i hate carriers of the vine

i hate hide and seek

i hate elephant

i hate the exo mechs

i hate draedon

im going to do greased solo

[chrome vault]

exo mechs?

[sullen lily]

what do you all recommend

[tacit gull]

just use the m32a1

[sullen lily]

media

[sullen lily]

wb just launcher only

[tacit gull]

yes

[sullen lily]

ok

no pistol rounds

[fiery vortex]

Is there any possible benefit to hearing or movement speed from no helmet. Or is it genuinely just as a way to flex and make things difficult

[lost inlet]

for flexing and making shits harder for yourself.

[tacit gull]

there is no downside to running the helmet or the ballistic mask gameplay wise

[last dawn]

upsides
drip
protection

[tacit gull]

ballistic mask is - infinity drip

generational aura debt

[last dawn]

anything other than the all black one looks goofy imo

whats the world record for melodonin btw
me and 2 friends did it in 3.28 but forgot to ss

[sullen lily]

why

they just killed a civi

and they werent even hostage

[last dawn]

crossfire?

[sullen lily]

what the actual fuck is wrong with this bullshit game

no

[last dawn]

were you being shot at or was it out of no where

[sullen lily]

i was shooting at them

afar and then a civi died

[last dawn]

you may have wallbanged the civi

[sullen lily]

bullshit

i hate this god damn game

[last dawn]

no you can actually do that
i accidentally wallbanged a civ through a suspect 🥀

[sullen lily]

is there a mod to fix this bs

[last dawn]

probably not

[sullen lily]

what about a mod to skip the long end screens

failure or not

[tacit gull]

dont play commander

[sullen lily]

takes too long still

[tacit gull]

you can just hit the restart button before you get there

[quasi coral]

This message was fact checked by real Los Suenos Police Officers

[tacit gull]

fact checked by real usia patriots

[quasi coral]

While I will likely never use it because it looks odd, it still definitely does the job

[lost inlet]

classic looks complete dogshit but is the meta.

[quasi coral]

Indeed, but looking cool is a big reason why I play this game

Soo sorry face mask

[desert island]

y do attachments hav different stats instead of being preference 😔

[twilit widget]

Do AI have S vests?

[full bone]

accidentally just domed a surrendered suspect

[full bone]

On neon tomb they do, which is why i drop anyone who rushes me

[dense coral]

man, sins of the father almost giving me a harder time than greased palms did

[quasi coral]

Realistically they all perform different

But, they are still mostly preference, so don't feel pressured

I've been forced with the angled grip so I don't have to strain my eyes with the thumb clipping into my eyes, and it really isn't any different with the combat grip

Biggest stat players are only muzzle devices

[desert island]

i dont like how sro dot has a faster aim time

but has no deadzone change

but its criminal how slow irons are

just wnated to use mp7 and g36c irons and they were so slow i just did side aim which has no delay

[sly grail]

doing ironman runs, on track for The Hermit, got to Sins of The Father, but i genuinely gotta put the game down for a few mins because my nerves are SPIKED

Greased Palms was a fucking nightmare but i managed to pull away without getting killed

[hearty portal]

fr

[sly grail]

i've been having decent and roughly universal success with running 1 gadget, 6 Flashbang Launcher, 6 .357 AP Rounds

[dense coral]

i used flashbang launcher for greased palms and might have to try it for this one too

[sly grail]

i've just been running that on my entire squad, blinding every poor soul we come across and in the case of Greased Palms, Elephant, and Valley Of The Dolls, executing just a few suspects with the .357 for being out of range, us being out of ammo, or because they shot a civilian

[dense coral]

I was trying nonlethal with pepperballs but it wasnt working so i said screw it and switched to SR16 but im still getting smacked when I try to go downstairs

[sly grail]

oh, yea, pepperballs kind of suck is the big problem, Beanbag Shotgun is just better

[dense coral]

I can clear the top floor fairly easily but once i get to the staircase theres always some mf out of sight that pops me lol

[sly grail]

still capable of lethal force tho, so if you're biting for S Rank run flash launchers

[delicate quiver]

I normally have my full team run non lethal pepper rifle and pistol and I have a modded requiem in if I get annoyed. However I did switch one for a flash launcher and it works somewhat well but he ends up hitting me annoying enough. On my equipment I have me carry a mirrorgun another with a mirriorgun, one with a shield and another with a breach shotgun.

[dense coral]

Im just trying to clear it tbh, its still my first playthru so im just trying to complete the game and DLCs before going for S

[dense coral]

you mean the requiem from re9

[delicate quiver]

Correct modded my game for it and it works like a dream.

[dense coral]

LOL thats badass

[delicate quiver]

A full team of FBI Agents coming in with flashbang’s both version with the launcher rushing in looks tough.

[sly grail]

i've got everybody running 6 Flash Launcher rounds (allowing 1 full reload, 12 shots total), 6 .357 rounds (6 reloads, 36 rounds total), and then i've got a 9 bang, Blue has Wedges, and Red has C2 charges, while i have a mirror gun and everybody else has rams

[delicate quiver]

Doesn't sound that bad. I only don't like it having my team run lethal pistol’s anymore since i’m on S teir runs and they start shooting at them once they miss their non lethal.

[hollow frost]

can you use primary grenade launcher to unlock "the hanged man"

[sly grail]

you could drop the 6 .357 for 6 more flash bang rounds, which would make for 2 full reloads and 18 shots total

[delicate quiver]

I mean I modded my game so my team has 100 slots so I don't think ammo’s the issue for me.

[sly grail]

oh, just don't give them pistol ammo, then

have one or two guys with a beanbag shotgun for easier firing on demand

[karmic lava]

have they added a command to stop my stupid bot teammate from yelling for compliance that causes me to get domed by a bunch of arabs

[sturdy bison]

Why would you go through ammo that fast?

[delicate quiver]

Oh I don't, I have plenty, sometimes my team when they run out of their ammo in their magazine they switch to their secondary pistol since it's faster than reloading.

Even then I spray my peperball rifle since I get very bored.

[sturdy bison]

Bored from using pepperball?

[delicate quiver]

Bored from getting shot at when there is 3 of them in the same room.

[sturdy bison]

Flashbang em

[delicate quiver]

Not that simple.. I use them all the time but like 25% of the time my team puts it in the wrong place or the room is simply too big for one flash.

[chilly sapphire]

is there any difference between the 9-bang flashbang and the default one? (exepct the fact it flashes them 9 times)

[hollow frost]

9-bang is the american way

nothing like removing their eyesight and hearing for 3 to 6 months

[karmic lava]

from my experience, 9 bangs seems to have shorter range than regular flashbang

[chilly sapphire]

aight, so there's not much difference? just more flashes?

[chilly sapphire]

oh, that makes sense

[karmic lava]

9 bangs is funnier, but flashbangs for me remains functional

so I keep them on my teammate, while I remain with the 9bang

[chilly sapphire]

that's a good idea

i'll make sure to set maybe alpha or bravo with few flashes

[hollow frost]

"put your wea-" B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G B A N G

[chilly sapphire]

haha, i use 9 bangs cause i think suspects give up quicker to them, and you have more time to enter the room

[sweet fractal]

i love using the 300. BLK weapons

[hearty portal]

the only ones i use fr

[sweet fractal]

i like to switch out guns

[sturdy bison]

Why? Seems to be normal ammo stuff mostly

[sweet fractal]

300. BLK is a big caliber
     this thing is bigger than the 5.56 and deals lots of damage

[hearty portal]

do yall like the GA416

[sturdy bison]

Really? And I thought the slr47 did good damage

[sweet fractal]

SLR47 is good aswell

[sweet fractal]

i like it but i dont use it as much

[sturdy bison]

Doesn’t the slr47 have a bit of punch to it? It seems to do well somewhat against armour

[sweet fractal]

the recoil is annoying and mostly sucks overall really
but i guess if you like high recoil weapons then use it,i also suggest you attach a vertical grip to atleast reduce recoil

[sturdy bison]

Never used it,

[sweet fractal]

cause its chambered in 7.62x39

[sturdy bison]

Shame it’s th only gun with that calibre

[sweet fractal]

i think i like using the MK16

[sweet fractal]

good armalite to use with a vertical grip and good for anything cqb related

[sturdy bison]

Smaller versions of the scar

Yet better ammo capacity

[sweet fractal]

i like it cause of its uhh

design and control

[wind gyro]

https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1497112218154827776
isnt this game already a dress up simulator swat larp cag

[lost inlet]

nope.

[lost inlet]

7.62x39mm has the same damage profile and armor pen as .300blk. The difference between them is that 7.62x39 go through walls just a tab bit better than .300.

[sturdy bison]

What about 7.62x51?

[lost inlet]

7.62x51 has more damage but same armor pen table, a lot more wall penetration power.

guarantee to bleed when hitting in the arteries area with both JHP and AP.

[waxen echo]

I forgot my ROE

[ivory geyser]

And is very short

[rustic jackal]

Fellow officers what shotgun is best for killing anything I see?

[fallow hedge]

i use the nova, they all do the same damage im pretty sure though since its all 12 gauge

[ivory geyser]

The one made by beretta

[urban mural]

The person meant a more larp costumisation option like what mags and stuff place on your belt or what mags and stuff place on your vest and for the helmets too, why not tho. Costumising your vest and gear is what we need.

[ivory geyser]

Suspects need matching vests with their ammo type

The left behind suspects carry scar h with stanag mags on their rig

[floral peak]

B1013/M1014

[exotic egret]

Hello, how do I get the laser and what's its name? I don't mean the holographic ones to be exact.

[lost inlet]

any as long it's buckshot.

[lost inlet]

they do? I thought they only carries custom AR-10, MPL and M249.

[ivory geyser]

Yeah played ides of march yesterday

[wide scaffold]

Dlcs are on sale but im still broke 😭

Fuhh

[lost inlet]

fuck, the red glasses are no longer red.

[wind gyro]

#📩feedback-reports-channel message
7 maps but no update for a year

is it a good trade, id say no

[hybrid wren]

What y'all think of SCAR

It was handy for me in Ship Mission

[quasi coral]

Which one?

[hybrid wren]

Dark Waters

[quasi coral]

Which SCAR?

[hybrid wren]

Though i finished it very spinally

[hybrid wren]

Battle Rifle

[ivory geyser]

Scar h yeah it's fine ig

[quasi coral]

Ah, I think it's really good

It's recoil is extremely high though

[ivory geyser]

6.5 and g3 is better ngl

[quasi coral]

I had to cope with the Elcan sight and vertical foregrip paired with the muzzle brake

[hybrid wren]

"Poleeece!"

"PUT YOUR HANDS U-" BAM BAM BAM

[quasi coral]

BAM BAM

[hybrid wren]

It's crazy how in this game main scope is totally useless compared to using IR laser sight

Even SCAR-H is better with side Iron Sights than with main

[vivid widget]

oh yeah how’s the new 6.5 creedmoor rifle

[worthy zodiac]

why is neon tomb ost so fire?

[hearty portal]

cause it’s fire

[worthy zodiac]

the last bum dum suspect shot a civil cuz she got in his way as soon as he saw me and emptied mag towarsd me

sigh there goes my 30 min into absolutely nothing

the ost is not worth it bro

dont play ts level alone

[quasi coral]

I personally enjoy and find using the main sights easier

In certain situations only though

[naive marsh]

Why the ai swat so fucking stupid

It’s unreal to s ranking a new america

He’s being shot and buddy js standing

I don’t think it’s real to s rank with ai

I s ranked a new america online with 3 ppl

And this is unreal i think with ai

[keen dirge]

Beating thank you come again on hard with only a revolver was harder than I thought it would be

[lost inlet]

It’s alright, less recoil and less damage 7.62x51mm.

[sweet fractal]

what should i use the 6.5 for?

[lost inlet]

Any situation really. It outshines more on standard cause JHP can one shot normal health suspect there, AP requires 2 shots.

[sweet fractal]

i just use ap for primary and jhp for secondary

[lost inlet]

You’d 2 shots more of time. At that point, just use .300blk or 5.56 for more ammo and even less recoil.

[naive marsh]

BRIO

THEY MANAGED TO KILL A GUY WITH LAUNCHER

FUCKK BRO

AND ONE JS DIED BRO LIKE FR

[wispy shadow]

How

[naive marsh]

BRO WAS WALKING AND DIED

[wispy shadow]

Faaaa

[naive marsh]

IDKKKK

[wispy shadow]

Bruh

[naive marsh]

I CAN’T S RANK THIS SHIT

[wispy shadow]

Which level

[naive marsh]

STANDART

[wispy shadow]

Bruh

[naive marsh]

the ai is to fucking stupid

I phisically can’t

[wispy shadow]

No I mean which mission

[naive marsh]

A new america

[wispy shadow]

Dang

That shits impossible bro

[naive marsh]

They don’t shoot I wasted all
My ammunition to zero and they didn’t waste shit

[wispy shadow]

Faaaaaaaaa

[naive marsh]

And u can’t command them to move and clear cuz they will die

They don’t shoot bri

[wispy shadow]

Js carey 13 mags at once

It works

[naive marsh]

I do

[wispy shadow]

Then how

[naive marsh]

I am s ranking brochacho

[wispy shadow]

Ohhh

Mb

I thought it was js normal

Js do on casual tbh

[naive marsh]

I s ranked it online with only 3 guys

[exotic egret]

Hey, what firearm and scope would you suggest for the mission "Hide and Seek"?

[wispy shadow]

Dang

[naive marsh]

And I can’t with ai bro it’s too unreal

[wispy shadow]

Dang sad

[naive marsh]

That’s for unskilled

[wispy shadow]

Honestly lvar

[wispy shadow]

True but ok

I use it to get gear

Like

U can get shit way easier on casual

[naive marsh]

I want the watch for s rank

[wispy shadow]

Wait so ur on commander or smth

Right

[naive marsh]

If ai was smarter

[naive marsh]

Ofc I am

[exotic egret]

"lvar"?

[wispy shadow]

Oohhh

[naive marsh]

I s ranked it 2 times on online with 3 guys bro

[wispy shadow]

LVAR

The 300blk integrally suppressed one

It’s pretty good

[blazing reef]

@naive marsh wich firearm you use?

[naive marsh]

Flash launcher

[wispy shadow]

R we deadass ✌️🥀🥀🥀🥀

[sweet fractal]

yeah arn is more funner

[wispy shadow]

I use SA 58

[naive marsh]

The best non lethal btw

[naive marsh]

Ur joking or sum

[blazing reef]

true

[naive marsh]

I said non lethal

[lost inlet]

Any.

[wispy shadow]

Kinda

I like it

[naive marsh]

I need ai to be smarter bro

[wispy shadow]

Even if it’s guaranteed C rank or below

[naive marsh]

To shoot cuz they don’t

[lost inlet]

No armor presents on that map so its doesn’t matters what gun you use.

[naive marsh]

I don’t know why they don’t shoot

[exotic egret]

funny huh

[wispy shadow]

Ooohh so do I use JHP

Right?

[sweet fractal]

id recommend personally the MK16 with vert grip and any scope but i recommend you use M5B or any red dot sight and a laser attachment

[lost inlet]

Sure.

[sweet fractal]

to answer your question - yes

[wispy shadow]

M5b is kinda mid tbh

[sweet fractal]

cause JHP is good for flesh wounds

[wispy shadow]

Too bulky

[wispy shadow]

Yea

[sweet fractal]

whatever youre comfy with use :]

also attach the sfmb brake on it

[lost inlet]

Just note 6.5 JHP is bugged and doesn’t have more limb damage multiplier than AP’s.

[wispy shadow]

Yeah I like eotech

[sweet fractal]

then useee ittt

[wispy shadow]

ASR brake is better

[sweet fractal]

use whatever you prefer raef

[wispy shadow]

I do tho

[lost inlet]

Both have 0.3x instead of 0.7x and 0.3x respectively.

[wispy shadow]

Ye yea

Also who tf uses fucking lpvos ?

[lost inlet]

No it’s not?

[wispy shadow]

I js wanna know

[wispy shadow]

Less recoil I think

[lost inlet]

F90 user.

[wispy shadow]

Nah

Sr 16

Even if me Aussie

[lost inlet]

SFMB reduces recoil by 40% while ASR reduces it by 30%.

[wispy shadow]

Oh

Ok thanks bro

Also socom is pretty good ngl

Socom suppressor

It’s alright

Also guys

What’s best battle rifle

I’m stuck between 308 mp5 and the sa 58

[lost inlet]

GA51.

[wispy shadow]

Thanks

[lost inlet]

It’s the .308 MP5 if you’re wondering.

[wispy shadow]

Yea I js forgot the name

I only have like 5 hrs on this game

What abt u

[lost inlet]

I’d pick G3 as personal though.

[wispy shadow]

Ok

Wait gtg gang

Good night

[ocean steeple]

which of the 3 dlcs would you guys suggest i buy?

[balmy patio]

probably boiling point

all its maps are of quality

the 2nd dlc is pretty close to, the oil rig and three letter triad are also pretty unique although i find boiling point to have pretty good maps all around with unique mechanics

oil rig is unique but three letter is more of a challenge map rather than it being unique tbh, it just has like 30+ suspects so its unique kinda just due to the volume of enemies, but narcos could easily be a base map on the game

and the first DLC is honestly pretty weak compared to the ones mentioned, the maps arent bad but they arent anything special as they should be for a DLC standard

[naive marsh]

WHY

I DID S RANK AND THEY ENTERED ROOM AND I DIDN ACTIVATE EMITER

FUCKING AI I HATE THIS

And I got fucking one shotted

Yeah ofc fucking ready or not good job

I told them to stack up and they started breaching

Fuuuck everytime I am near end they fail this

Fucking ai

I hope they get reworked

[cedar mulch]

The worst map in DLC1 is clearly Dorm, Narcos is the best of the three maps.

[balmy patio]

oh my bad i thought narcos was in dlc 2

no it was the fucking yacht 😭, map gets barely picked on pubs

but yeah narcos would be the best on dlc 1

[lost inlet]

Which map that takes place in abandoned building with larpers inside just there to kills you?

[cedar mulch]

What’s more, the order of the maps in DLC 1 and DLC 2 is particularly baffling, as those environmental enemies aren’t actually that difficult to deal with

The UPF are fairly easy enemies to deal with in both DLCs.

[lost inlet]

@thorny shadow you were trying to get S rank?

[thorny shadow]

Nah only A tier in hide and seek

[lost inlet]

Arrest more people.

[thorny shadow]

😔

I arrested like 5

[balmy patio]

pretty much yeah, its also the one map i have seen where theres suspects with no guns, like just straight up civilians pretty much but they will refuse to surrender mostly

[lost inlet]

More.

[balmy patio]

realistically three letter triad would be the worst map out of the three since it doesnt really bring anything special to the table and it really doesnt make sense at all

why the hell are we raiding an abandoned building with more than 30 dudes inside, and i believe theres only one civilian

[thorny shadow]

Do u know how many I need

[upper wasp]

cause you didnt go home.

[balmy patio]

its a cool map to go rambo style on but S ranking three letter is way more painful solo since you dont have the ammo box from ANA

[lost inlet]

Arrest like 15 of them, i guess.

[thorny shadow]

I can BASICALLY do S tier at that point

[lost inlet]

Uhh yeah, just do S rank at that point. :3

[thorny shadow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/946458851266404385/950041411284246598/0_1-1-1-2-1.gif

[wind gyro]

aaaaaaaaaa

[zinc lantern]

@thorny shadow #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message you got 200 points for suspects, when 770 is what you’d get if you arrested all of them. You killed/incapacitated a ton of them still

[thorny shadow]

Ayt, thanks

[prime latch]

Is there any feature to turn off lights to give nods a purpose? I’ve seen a few fuse boxes that say you can’t cut the power but does nothing, is that a thing?

[tacit gull]

no, cut feature

[hybrid wren]

When predator missle and killstreak update??

[normal wigeon]

what's more ideal for missions; Ceramic for the 100% reduction until cracked or steel for the 70% always protection. I think that right. STill doing neon tomb.

[lost inlet]

steel reduces damage by 86.5%.

[hybrid wren]

Provoke. Kill. Report.

[normal igloo]

Yo anyone got any tips for a new America on standard? This shit is kicking my ass ruthlessly I’ve switched loadouts several times re configured my bots traits and much more and I still can hardly make it up the 20th floor without everything being broken and by that point the runs already over since I need all the health possible

[hybrid wren]

What

[normal igloo]

[amber hearth]

wat

[wooden lintel]

Imo lead the way, go first, mirror every door etc. Check the cameras, it's helpful. Watch out for IR laser traps or use them to bait suspects from the room nearby (easy kill). And walk slowly close to the doors. Don't use flashlight unless it's necessary for you but be prepared for possible combat. Close the doors behind you and use wedges

If you'll find a jammer, dont use it, go to floor above and clear everything except the court room

[normal igloo]

So don’t radio toc about the large amount of explosives in the courtroom gotttt it

I been at this for 3 days imma be honest it’s my favourite mission in the game but holy crap it’s hard

[limber jacinth]

clear all the room except the last bomber room on top… order your bots to standby the door (flash bang breach) then u go down to turn on the jammer thingy then go back up

[normal igloo]

Idk what bots void got for this mission but these bots on some cod waw demon time

[limber jacinth]

take your time and play slow… no reason to rush

[normal igloo]

Ahhhh gotcha Thats what starts â count down gotcha

[limber jacinth]

• enemies move around a lot and they sometimes retreat and hit your back… so be prepared for it

[normal igloo]

Can’t wait to eventually do this solo on hard

[limber jacinth]

well… it is one of the tough maps…. good luck

[normal igloo]

Is going up through the mayors office â good idea for a flank on those stairs or no?

It seems good but exposed as all hell

[wooden lintel]

There's a secret room in mayor's office, check out the bookshelf

[sullen lily]

should i use wedge or make all my ammo launcher ammo

[amber hearth]

왓오

[wooden lintel]

You can take one wedge

[tacit gull]

all launcher

[desert island]

all launcher

[storm belfry]

casual F

Thats peak gameplay✌️

[desert island]

just shoot civies to turn off civie objective

[hearty portal]

i hate when people start using the mic in game like do you not understand you sound so annoying

[tacit gull]

you're right, everyone should be antisocial

[storm belfry]

Truth

We need to start dancing like bees to talk

[proven blade]

k where is keycard for bank vault? ive looked everywhere and its nowehre to be found?

[sudden thorn]

I’ve been using the scar heavy recently it’s an alright gun I like it

[sudden thorn]

It can be in multiple different locations

[proven blade]

Well i just searched through every office and desk and couldnt find it

[sudden thorn]

Idk then

[tame thunder]

What do I do if the federal agent isnt complying even when I use less lethal

[warm slate]

Headshot

[tacit gull]

apply more less lethal or incapacitate him

[last rampart]

Hate the pepper ball pistol wish we had rubber rounds

[storm belfry]

Wish we had HE frags

[tacit gull]

next update

[storm belfry]

speeds up the homicide

[signal patrol]

If you shoot a suspect in the heart area, will the suspect die?

[wide scaffold]

Hide and seek will make me throw my monitor out of the fucking window one day

[sturdy bison]

What’s got more punch to it 9 mill or 45 acp

[sweet fractal]

deploy a taser or gunbash/melee him

[sullen lily]

kill him

[sullen lily]

kill him

[sullen lily]

prob .45

[wide scaffold]

A suspect just shot through a metal container

[sweet fractal]

you arent a soldier

[sullen lily]

yah bro

i wear a polo shirt

[sweet fractal]

you kill only when necessary or only when its required

[zinc lantern]

that sounds like the same thing lol

[tacit gull]

no

[signal patrol]

Oh that should happen right?

[rocky rover]

didnt play it since last update but worth 0 at this time

just good enough to occupy one of your pocket, nothing more

need 1.5 magazine to disable a suspect in good situation

[tacit gull]

no

[storm belfry]

@blazing shoal how'd you lose 3/4ths your squad on Sins of the Father

This vexes me

[vivid widget]

steel is 86.5% dr, and for some of the longer and harder missions steel is better because of the increased chance to bleed
bleeding is good because every time you stop it you're restored to 50% hp

the 100% dr from ceramic is really nice but it can break, making it around the same effectiveness as kevlar
though usually if you're shot enough for it to break, you're most likely dead

[dusty ravine]

I use ceramic, since in my experience you die from limb damage before dying from chest damage, and steel plates spall onto limbs making you die faster there too

Unless for some reason you’re dying from chest damage a lot, I’d recommend running ceramic

[still pond]

chat does the 9-bang have any actual benefits compared to the normal flash

I genuinely cant tell

[storm belfry]

shorter fuze longer detonation time

As in theres 9 detonations

[wide scaffold]

Any tips on how to clear hide and seek on hardmode

[hearty portal]

idk

[jagged quartz]

Hope and praying

[late ledge]

anyone else on PC have low fps when using the mirror gun?

[wide scaffold]

What shotgun has the biggest amount of ammo

[fiery vortex]

10 player modded lobby on the lowest difficulty I randomly joined. Told them it would be fun to do a new america.

We all died, god I love this level (unironically)

[blissful wedge]

how can i play with steam friends when i have epic games version

[jolly verge]

Spall from steel does not affect you

[worn dawn]

Gruesomely shoot their heads.

[wide scaffold]

I've gone up the stairs in a building 2 seconds later i'm one tapped

[vivid widget]

i know that for hard mode there's no point in using 7.62 because it will still be a 2 shot incap in the chest like 5.56 or .300 blk out, but for standard difficulty is there a reason to use 5.56 or .300 blk out or is it always just 7.62?

[stray knoll]

any mods to fix the AI?

[floral peak]

try asking in #🔧modding-chat

[dusty ravine]

Does it only hurt friendlies?

[smoky cedar]

It * can* hurt friendlies but it isn't limited to them pretty sure

[dusty ravine]

It can hurt anyone close to you though

But not yourself?

[smoky cedar]

Bingo

[dusty ravine]

Thank you very much for informing me!

[urban mural]

Programmed psychosis try number yada yada yada... The definition of insanity.

Can you get the watch from Judge's appartment even on casual? Cuz I already S ranked the ANA once on Standard.

[regal tundra]

Yes you can

[vivid widget]

?

[urban mural]

Wdym?

[vivid widget]

i’m basically just asking if there’s no point in using anything other than 7.62 on standard for rifles

or if 5.56 and/or .300 blk out has its uses

[urban mural]

Is prerence.

Use whatever gun you want.

[hexed escarp]

ALWAYS use shotguns

we LOVE the 590M

[gusty quarry]

The ability to change uppers from a '10 to a 14.5 barrel in the MK18 slaps

Changing uppers is preferable to having 10-20 different ARs to me.

Not a lot of games do it.

[strange gate]

whats the best dlc for the game?

[hexed escarp]

home invasion

1. home invasion
2. boiling point
3. dark waters

[strange gate]

thanks

[vivid widget]

so in standard it doesn’t really matter?

cool

[fringe lynx]

if i killed a singular civ intentionally as he was being held hostage and i took no suspects alive can i still get the required rank for the dev watch?

also which missions do i need to do for the hermit

i did all of the base game missions minus los suenos stories

or can i not even send officers to therapy for the hermit achievment?

100% in the commander mode menu and it says ironman mode enabled

what'd i do wrong

i didnt even get the 'The World' achievment

[calm shuttle]

@echo flower no mods

[fringe lynx]

but i got the dev watch..?

[still pond]

any console players here know a fix to motion blur being re-enabled every time you open the game?

[echo flower]

Figured it out, thanks 👍🏻

[calm shuttle]

its too late to get them now lol

[woeful dove]

less lethal doesent work in RoN as it hsould

[calm shuttle]

Real

Tasers shouldn't stick all the time

[woeful dove]

well not just that, they could overcomplicate the hitboxes of suspects so if u taser the gas station criminals backpack it does nothing, but if u tase their neck, face, arms, legs it works.

[calm shuttle]

can just be a % chance thing.

[woeful dove]

thats bad and inconsistant tho

[wanton goblet]

Anyone having issues with their console not connecting to Epic? Mine just keeps saying “authenticating connection to epic” and not loading

[sudden thorn]

I’m one too and there’s no way to stop it it’s extremely fucking annoying

[tidal delta]

i notice the game doesnt like prolonged periods of inactivity, particularly with “quick-resume” type features on console

aka if i havent fully closed the game in a while, it wont connect unless i full close and restart

[sudden thorn]

My ps5 heats up whenever I stay on the main menu for too long

No other game have I ever had this but with ron I get a warning to my console is too hot

[cloud drum]

Does anyone know if mods still can break your game?

Last time I installed them It wiped my entire game’s progress (including customizations).

[blazing shoal]

let my squad enter a room with open doors, they basically got fatal funneled 😭

i shouldve been the pointman into the room instead

[hardy marlin]

Are the mp5s usable on missions with heavier armored suspects (ie: sins of the father, neon tomb)

[woeful dove]

why the fuck is all the ai hitting headshots, this some bullshit

[storm belfry]

Get a thicker skull

[still pond]

doesnt help when you're at max health and they one-shot you ✌️

[woeful dove]

exactly what happens, plus shouldent my mich helmet protect me from a 9mm???? "Yes, a MICH (Modular Integrated Communications Helmet) ballistic helmet is designed to protect the skull from 9mm handgun rounds. Most modern MICH helmets are rated to NIJ Level IIIA standards, which specifically protects against 9mm Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) bullets, as well as .44 Magnum and other handgun threats"

[storm belfry]

Can't one tap you unless you got that shiny dome of yours out and in the air

[woeful dove]

maybe LSPD is so poor they bought "replicas" instead of real helmets lololol

@fast harbor u still use discord?

[storm belfry]

Plastic Helmet straight outta tarkov

[woeful dove]

yup

[still pond]

I have a clip from earlier of being like two tapped when at basically full health

[tacit gull]

mich is drippe

[woeful dove]

I need aspid to help.

[still pond]

then again that mission was screwed from the start

[storm belfry]

THERE ya go

2 tapped

[woeful dove]

I don't get damaged from body, I get insta fucking head, eyes

[storm belfry]

Helmet stops ONE, round.

[still pond]

I've been one tapped before i just didnt clip it

[woeful dove]

Helmet didin't stop SHIT

[tacit gull]

you can get 2 tapped on any difficulty if you're unlucky

[woeful dove]

Im unlucky

[tacit gull]

also this aint tarkov

[woeful dove]

now it is

[tacit gull]

face hitbox got removed long ago

[still pond]

what are you? half of my friends?

[woeful dove]

Mission were we larp as BEAR fighting scav's for a goverment office

(would actually be fire)

[storm belfry]

[tacit gull]

might aswell considering how much "policing" we've been doing

[storm belfry]

I already police as a pmc i custom made

[woeful dove]

me a humble swat officer deploying in afghanistan

[storm belfry]

[storm belfry]

Judge Origins

[tacit gull]

toc.... we got a room full of osama...

[still pond]

..we're supposed to be policing? (whispers off camera "HIDE THE BODIES")

[woeful dove]

are we ready??? or not....

[storm belfry]

quick, call Obama

[tacit gull]

now let me be clear

close that door judge

[storm belfry]

[storm belfry]

How about you uhhhh, close that, uhhh, door, Judge.

[woeful dove]

On me, On me, GET DOWN ON THE GROUND NOW, On me

[crude prism]

True they should re-add to post-hoc those ancient gear guides back into being accurate

[woeful dove]

I want TOC fucking bitching at us when we do something wrong "THE FUCK WERE YOU AIMING FOR? THE INVISIBLE MAN?

[tacit gull]

what gear guides

[storm belfry]

"I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD, I'LL COME DOWN THERE MYSELF YOU HIT ANOTHER CIVILIAN!"

[woeful dove]

"STOP KICKING A DEAD HORSE"

[crude prism]

Like that old "gas mask gives face armor" shiz

[tacit gull]

also i dont give a fuck, give me my uparmor back

[tacit gull]

Ohhhh

was that ever even true

[storm belfry]

continues shooting corpse

[crude prism]

Just give me an alternative to the disgusting mandible bro please

[woeful dove]

my friend believes that

[tacit gull]

give us back the shitty chinese facemask and i will run nothing else

[woeful dove]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3748

[crude prism]

There's literally cops with ballistic glass faceshields in the station now

Give me THAT as a visual option for the ballistic mask

[storm belfry]

The Chinese mask?

[tacit gull]

void are edging us with the faceshield

[woeful dove]

I just sent faceshield.

[tacit gull]

the one from the early trailers

[storm belfry]

https://www.atomicdefense.com/products/cqcm-nij-iiia-bulletproof-full-facemask-without-helmet-cut?srsltid=AfmBOoqq8IO_DiKHfOgUX-9Mt36ZXhLZSBqxw8xj_eIsPwQkYzKPVKLQ like this kinda shi @tacit gull ?

[storm belfry]

We gonna look like the hide and seek guy

[tacit gull]

yeah that

[storm belfry]

What about the Ronien mask

[tacit gull]

💀 that shit is too big

[storm belfry]

Those things are really cool even if they aren't very practical

[storm belfry]

I LIKE EM BIG!

[tacit gull]

outside of the weight they're apparently made to be very comfortable

they even have ventilation

[storm belfry]

Antyln Helmet

☝️

[tacit gull]

nahhh

that ugly

almost as ugly as that pilot helmet

[woeful dove]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/3748

[storm belfry]

[cursive spade]

What is going on

[tacit gull]

what

[tacit gull]

what if this got hit by an orbital laser

[cursive spade]

What about the helmet with nag battery pack on it

[storm belfry]

Thank you tarkov for providing judge all his needed tools

[tacit gull]

dropping chemlight

[woeful dove]

FUCKING AIIII

[storm belfry]

you think we'll find my cousin's chemlight here?

[cursive spade]

So do yall wanna play Ron with me

[storm belfry]

@tacit gull I was playing VoTD and one my AIs said skme shit like "Now I'm really fucking pissed" when we got to the basement

[tacit gull]

the dialogue in videogames has NEVER been this crazy

[storm belfry]

AI teammate about to unleash his inner sigma wolf fursona ✌️

[woeful dove]

Make more ai suicidal

mod that makes judge use RDR2 insults and if u use enough on suspect moral they shoot themselves

[storm belfry]

Also had a moment whenever everyone was running around and away from me like I was a active shooter

Made that shit go from RoN to Call of Duty rq

[fringe lynx]

first perfect ai nade holy fuck

and it was with the "deploy" command

told him to throw it and he threw it perfectly from where i wnted him to

did my beanbag shotgun teammate also just kill a guy

i thought they cant

[storm belfry]

small ideas big plans

@gentle olive pull the trigger

shoot that man

[sweet fractal]

cant sleep need help

[storm belfry]

Sets an example for the rest of them

[sweet fractal]

yes

[tacit gull]

tell me about it

[sweet fractal]

like how

[storm belfry]

[cedar knot]

The swat member ai has to have gotten worse somehow

There's no way they want to all huddle in a hallway and waste ammo after I tell them to clear a room

[tacit gull]

i mean that as in its the same situation here

[sweet fractal]

ohhh

sry im a bit dumb gratr

ok im gonna go and watch youtube

[waxen tartan]

I just s ranked elephant phewwww

[desert island]

swat ai r worse now

they used to just delete enemies on sight

now they miss evrrything and kill civies

[sudden thorn]

It’s honestly just luck dependent which sucks I just don’t like that level in general

[left lotus]

Looking for a team. Mods can be used

[ocean steeple]

its not THAT bad

i decided to go with buying boiling point

[sudden thorn]

Boiling point has the hardest level in the game though good luck with that

[lost dagger]

Guys i tattooed the man objective on my right arm

When i aim irl im constantly reminded now

[ocean steeple]

i am well aware

[waxen tartan]

Same with greased palms

[next lynx]

Doing S ranked greased palms on hard mode right now, I'm honestly not really having fun anymore but I just have to do it

[vivid widget]

what is the meta loadout for swat ai again? non lethal is obvious i’m more curious about lethal, like what long tactical do i slot on them and myself

[solemn patio]

Suspects fire revolvers way too fucking fast

I cant even fire half as fasy they empty the 357 in one seconr

[sudden thorn]

the arn-180 is actually amazing I have been sleeping on this gun

[solemn patio]

I shot a suspect who was surrendering because I sorta thought he was gonna pull a billy midnight and dropshot me

[glass heart]

shields for them mirror for you

shield + mkv is pretty silly for swat ai because they just dumpster people and its very tough for them to actually die

[vivid widget]

lol fair

[sudden thorn]

I do occasionally get the animation where they quickly chuck their gun infront of them confused with them pointing it at me at times

quadamar in neon tomb got a quarter of a mag on him because of that

[vivid widget]

my ai loadout is pretty much this

mcx, mkv, tac shield, heavy steel full coverage, with 1 primary and 1 secondary slot, 5 flashes, 2 c2 slots, and 2 wedge slots

[sudden thorn]

I love the mk v

that’s the only sidearm I use it’s just too good

[solemn patio]

Im stuck with a shitty magnum

[sudden thorn]

rip

[solemn patio]

I wish we had an option for a compensated barrel

[sudden thorn]

True

[solemn patio]

Or an optic mount for the magnum

I wsnt 38 special as an option the most tho

Or like those 8 shot 357s?

But with 38

[sudden thorn]

True

[vivid widget]

this would be the meta ai loadout no? at least for lethal

[glass heart]

yeah thats optimal

[chrome vault]

Definitely luck dependent. That's honestly the logic of every single level which sucks. Though the elephant does definitely get easier once you've memorise all 9 bomb locations.

[sudden thorn]

True

[vivid widget]

gotcha

[sudden thorn]

why do I keep getting team killed immediately in multiplayer matches the hell did I even do it’s been happening really frequently recently

[balmy patio]

for lethal put em with the m14S-16

they dont give a damn about recoil

or ammo issues

[vivid widget]

ye ik, you just put 1 slot in ammo for each gun and it's infinite
why m14 though? or just any 7.62 weapon

[balmy patio]

depends on the mission but m14 has way less deadzone than the rest

if u are on the shorter maps aka the CQC just use GA51

its the best BR after all

[vivid widget]

right yeah
do i use the ga51 myself or just stick to mcx

[balmy patio]

if u dont give a damn about incaps (i mean for incaps u only go SMG hollow points anyways), and really need that win just use GA51 all around

it has the same ergonomics, firing mechanism and size as the mp5

literally a pocket mp5 with 7.62

which is why its the best, the other battle rifles struggle with clearing CQC due to how big they are so they force you to use your sidearm to clear doors

[vivid widget]

really? i just kind of larp
will try not to shoot but will incap if no compliance

[balmy patio]

i just aim for heads if possible so i want the smaller guns unless its a big map so i stick to smgs

[vivid widget]

not intending to just kill everyone lol

[balmy patio]

if you want to keep a good score

aka lethal but try to get some arrests, just use taser and flash nade launcher, or swap flash nade launcher with mirror gun and bring flashes with taser

just having 1 taser gives u 6 shots which with the mirror gun its quite easy to get the shots in

[vivid widget]

i also use taser and flash
i’m just curious about what to put on ai is all

like i said, not intending to go for kills but just larping as a swat officer lol

[balmy patio]

AI is always the same sadly, they dont got self preservation so ur forced into full heavy steel

realistically if u wanna metagame just give em full heavy steel and hold them on the back, their traits are more than enough to make you superhuman and solo that shit but yeah

if not equip em with either beanbag or flash nade launcher

[vivid widget]

oh i play on quick play for easy restarts

[balmy patio]

they dont aim for head with beanbag and flash nade launcher is like the ultimate safety tool in the game

with no traits well just equip em with M14S-16 if the map is open if not GA51, always frontline if you do intend to use em and not leave them on the back

why? cuz it lets you try to do a few arrest since the AI will try to dome the first thing they see moving

[vivid widget]

i have a nonlethal loadout for them already, flash launcher, pepperball pistol, 6 flashes, 2 wedges, 2 c2

used it for my s rank run

[balmy patio]

if you are doing that then the bring shield ofc

always frontline or be the one to breach in if you intend to play with the AI

cuz those dudes cannot survive a breach themselves i swear

[vivid widget]

ye ye lol

wish i could send images into this chat so i can show off the loadouts easier

[balmy patio]

(and obviously dont even try using AI on hard mode, i mean it can work but you are doing so much of the heavy lifting u might aswell just leave them on the back if you dont want them all dead)

[vivid widget]

gimme a sec to set up obs and send it to #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[balmy patio]

on hard mode AI just gonna help u clear all the evidence and stuff after the mission or glitched evidence, they get straight bullied by how cracked the suspects are in comparison

[vivid widget]

oh no i don't use ai on hard fuck that

there i sent it
first is loadout for myself and second is ai loadout

[balmy patio]

for your first loadout, im not a big fan of the mkv due to the draw time same for that new pistol which i forgot the name of but i mainly go for headshots anyways so i can understand that you can just shoot anywhere and the suspects gonna drop dead with the mkv, however it does struggle on certain door breaches such as the ones in ides of march, stolen valor and 23 megabyte due to how tight they are but i digress, realistically you can also drop the back plate on steel since the meta is light front only steel but ey unless you plan on being full locked in sometimes you can get caught offguard so not too bad

[unkempt granite]

no wonder ppl said bots have aimbot on ana i ujst got shot down with a swat member dying on the same second by one singgular dude rushing

[balmy patio]

for the 2nd loadout i would def pick taser over c4 since you are already using the shield, shield allows you to make some pretty bold plays with the taser even against mid ranged enemies instead of just only using it on corner checkspots and wont require you to pre clear with a flash for it to be safely used

the AI is pretty good with the taser

[unkempt granite]

idek if i should even try to s rank ana hardmode atp it's just unfair

[balmy patio]

honestly just go 1 c4 1 taser since again one taser gives you 6 shots on it

[vivid widget]

i suppose that’s fair
what pistol would you recommend i use though? 5/7?

[balmy patio]

ngl i use pistols by their drip but yeah 5/7 is pretty broken

and if you dont mind being bold and just switching them down i mean

the g18-c is pretty lethal alright

[vivid widget]

lol real

[solemn patio]

Im half tempted to start a civil argument to see how fast I can get someone to say “this isn’t cod”

[low moon]

Alright, I have read how achievement has been worded, I have seen some older footage on topic, but for those who have Sleeper Agent achievement and have gotten it recently:

1. My friends are asking that is the incapacitation/arrest count per player or for whole team and is the game also keeping track for it per player or for whole team?

2. Do dead suspects count towards the counter, I have seen some older footage where there were dead suspects have counted, but is that the case nowadays?

[balmy patio]

even aside of switching them down the g18-c has the best aim recovery out of all the pistols so its actually pretty broken in tap fire ironically

it recenters almost instantly

[vivid widget]

like i said before i play as if i’m larping as a swat officer

lethal weapons but not intending to go full lethal, just respecting rules of engagement and trying to take as many alive if possible

[balmy patio]

i mean ey i would drop the mkv if i were by this rules 💀 that thing blows their limbs and heads off but yeah swap it for the 5/7 since that thing just goes through armor basically

[vivid widget]

gotcha lol, 5/7 it is for everyone

[balmy patio]

keep the mkv for the AI to they need that for sure

[vivid widget]

ah nvm

[balmy patio]

shield and MKV is the best way for them to survive realistically, with heavy full steel and shield they basically wont die

[solemn patio]

I like the magnum it makes me feel like im in a action movie

[balmy patio]

main issue with AI survivability is that obviously they dont try to get into cover, they will try to always go for the gunfight so they end up taking alot of damage, and unlike us they cant heal

[clever owl]

I'm pretty sure the count is tracked throughout the entire team.

Kills don't count. It would end up restarting the timer.

[vivid widget]

gotcha
other than that do the loadouts look good? i kind of just use the taser for myself

[low moon]

Thank you!

[clever owl]

No worries

[solemn patio]

Me watching a suspect eat like 4 rounds of 9mm jhp to the torso and not fall over

[vivid widget]

sounds about right

[clever owl]

Pistols are actually buns in this game

Only the MK-V is good

[solemn patio]

I think if I was shot by 4 rounds of 9mm JHP Id fall over and either start screaming or freaking out cause ive been fuggin shot brother

[solemn patio]

Nuh uh you havent met the glock wit da switchhh brrrttt brrrttt

[balmy patio]

primary weapon is a bit of a flimsy topic, if you equip AI with the smg they go for center of body mainly so the vests are just going to eat all their shots, however AI shoots to kill so they wont stop shooting or aiming at their arms or whatever, so if you wanna go less lethal u might aswell equip em with beanbag since they have a way higher chance to die using an smg than that, if not just equip em with the SA-58

the SA-58 has the highest rate of incaps since it incaps on one body shot to unarmored

[clever owl]

Or you'd die

[balmy patio]

so i would recommend the AI to use that

[solemn patio]

Depends where i was hit and how long ago

[balmy patio]

a good middle ground between high lethality and not getting bullied by the suspects when they use smgs

[clever owl]

Just use an SMG at this point

[solemn patio]

If I was shot in the heart, head or

[balmy patio]

while having a good chance at incapping

[clever owl]

Brother it's a 9mm

But yeah, it does depend honestly

[vivid widget]

gotcha

alright thanks for the advice

[clever owl]

Oh, I was referring to the chest/abdomen specifically

[vivid widget]

i think i’ll just stick with giving them 5.56 for now but if it’s painful i’ll give them 7.62

[solemn patio]

Brother if Im shot with a jhp to the arm i will die alot slower (if I didnt try something myself with my clothing) than if I was shot in the head, heart or lungs, legs are a different story, artery hell

Oh mb shittt shiitt you acknowledge

[glass heart]

its not just the sa-58 in specific, its 7.62 nato as a caliber

[solemn patio]

I think getting hit in the lungs (pretty big targets too compared to the heart) without proper medical which I cant render easily I die (not immediate)

[glass heart]

but for the ai which rifle they have doesnt matter

only caliber of that weapon does really

[sullen lily]

im gonna behead whoever said that doing missions in private or public lobbys and getting an s rank contributes to medal of valor

[clever owl]

I mean any vital organ sustaining 4 rounds of 9mm would be severely lethal; you'd end up dying whether the rounds were fired towards the liver, the heart, or the lungs

[sullen lily]

someone check #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[solemn patio]

Yeah

[clever owl]

You should always do achievements in quick play or commander lobbies

[sullen lily]

so i have to beat it again in quick play

[clever owl]

Yes

[sullen lily]

not private lobbys

i think im gonna kill some one instead

[clever owl]

I failed to complete the achievement myself because most of the S-rank missions I completed at the end of the game were completed with my friend

[sullen lily]

szxzsxxegSGS

[solemn patio]

Never been shot or shot someone irl, cannot fact check

But assuming this is correct cause im not completely clueless

[clever owl]

These are vital organs we're talking about, not just the arm or the leg

[solemn patio]

Would be too complex to implement into RON to make things fair lowkey, wish they just upped damage of all weapons

[glass heart]

incoming or outgoing

[solemn patio]

Both.

[glass heart]

you need to fuck with the enemy ai if you make incoming damage greater

[solemn patio]

Yeah

[glass heart]

make their accuracy and reaction time closer to what real people can manage

[solemn patio]

Make them not see through bushes on carriers or peak you through 2 narrow ass windows

[slim crown]

i have not really played much recently but I just noticed that I cant find that guy downstairs in the police station that you can shoot did he get removed?

[balmy patio]

realistically alot of the difficulty of hard mode is that x2 firerate increase the AI gets for no reason

it MASSIVELY increases their TTK

yes the 50ms is also complete bs but instead of getting one shot in from every encounter you get hit twice basically on every gunfight

thats if you land the headshot or incap

[glass heart]

yeah and its all bullshit

how exactly do these fuckers make their aks fire at twice the speed

most baffling part of hard mode honestly

[balmy patio]

honestly the 50ms wouldnt even be TOO bad if it wasnt because the AI can quite literally

fire from 180 degrees

their guns dont even have to be pointing at you

[glass heart]

its still really bad tho

in real life it takes 10 times as long to go from seeing a threat and engaging

[balmy patio]

thats what pisses me off the most, cuz you can have a really good angle on the AI and they still hit you while them mfs are looking at the other direction

[umbral niche]

Yeah their sight is the most immersion breaking thing for sure.

It's like they got bionic eyes.

[balmy patio]

i believe void is very puzzled on hard mode as a concept, its clear that they just put it in for the true sweaty mfs to torture themselves with but for everyone else its all riddlen with bs

like hard mode is designed for the people that have way too many hours on this game with such low content realistically

for such people standard is complete baby food basically

[umbral niche]

Indeed, I'm a chill tryhard who has been around for long time. Ironman-ed the whole game with no losses. Hard is just not fun nor realistic.

When you're in a match with humans, it is way more bearable.

[balmy patio]

even for the sweaty mfs the x2 firerate is just why

[winter pendant]

When i go back to standard it feels like a different game because of the squad behaviors, hesitance, like the AI just kinda act more human? Like standard is more polished. But it is also kinda ez after you've played a really lot

[balmy patio]

u cant just put a magical switch on ur gun to make it fire x2 faster

they be firing pump actions like full autos

[umbral niche]

I don't mind that because you shouldn't really be surviving so many rounds to start with.

It's when they see you through a tiny crack in the wall and start playing Sniper Elite that I call bullshit.

[balmy patio]

yeah i also cant go back to normal after playing so much hard mode but x2 firerate is still just why

[winter pendant]

Yeah

[umbral niche]

Like I was doing Voll's house and they can see you in that large foyer room with stairs right? The one under where his daughter's room is. They can see you across the whole house through those rectangular windows and 360 no scope you with a smg. Just ridiculous.

[balmy patio]

this game got the tarkov armors, survival is so RNG based that you can survive a whole 30 round mag from the MLO dudes in ANA or just get dropped within 60 frames due to the double headshot

then again in theory if you are lucky you can literally be immortal

if you get a bleed every 3 shots with steel you cant die

[umbral niche]

I wouldn't really say it's RNG, there is the whole bleed mechanic thing with steel.

[balmy patio]

yea

[umbral niche]

More of an exploit really.

[balmy patio]

pmuch, but most of the times you will get double tapped to the head so 💀

[umbral niche]

I don't mind at all if they want to make hard where its like, a few well placed rounds and you are dead. That's fine to me, it's how accurate and how aware they are which is the problem.

[balmy patio]

even that is rng too, you can take as many headshots if you keep rolling that 33% ricochet with ballistic mask

[umbral niche]

In my experience it breaks after a few shots to the face.

I think realistically I've only survived like 3 shots that way.

[balmy patio]

its 2 with ballistic but ricochet makes it more consistent to eat a few

[glass heart]

they can see in darkness through smoke and through shit

[balmy patio]

and thats from rifle rounds, pistol rounds only do 0.5 durability so you can take 4 of em

[umbral niche]

It's ridiculous yeah.

[glass heart]

youre fighting drones with thermals that look like people at this point

[umbral niche]

If he mag dumps me with P90 then I'm like well no shit I'm dead. But when they mag dump perfectly from 50m away outdoors in pitch black, I'm calling utter horseshit.

[hard jewel]

yo somone help me

[obsidian hornet]

Can someone please help me choose between the MK18 with a long barrel and the M4?

These LOOK and FEEL like EXACTLY THE SAME weapon to me

[glass heart]

which ar are you talking about

the mk18 with a long barrel might as well be an m4 carbine

[balmy patio]

use the mk18 with long barrel and carry handle

gets that drip up

[obsidian hornet]

Literally how I feel

[copper dome]

My man

[umbral niche]

I make my bots use that just for style.

[copper dome]

You gotta use it too

Without you using it the style is invalid

[deep osprey]

The gas mask is more bullet proof then the ballistic

[lost inlet]

Nuh uh.

[deep osprey]

Yuh uh

[solemn patio]

After I s rank gerard im gonna come back with all shotties and dismember the suspects

[warm igloo]

Damn, Solo on a new america on hard difficulty ain't for the weak

[solemn patio]

Why the fuck did my ai just trigger a door trap

I fucking hate how hardheaded these guys are

I wish I could wrestle them into cuffs or beat em to death

[oak crest]