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[pliant abyss]

or ir laser

[umbral gorge]

Does anyone know if helmet/ballistic mask/gas mask is allowed for The Heat is On achievement?

[sterile prism]

i did it with a helmet on

[umbral gorge]

Okay thanks for the info.

[warm gate]

For bank do i want to use jhp or ap ammo

[sterile prism]

your teammates can wear/use whatever you want

[sterile prism]

either, some enemies have armor and some don't

[umbral gorge]

Yeah I know that they can was just wondering if I can wear it. Beside I wanna do it completely solo.

[sterile prism]

best of luck

[warm gate]

Thanks

[umbral gorge]

Thanks

[sterile prism]

it's about the friends you make along the way

[glass heart]

most of the actual bank robbers LOOK like they have at least L2-L3 armor so if youre using 5.56 or worse you should be packing AP

anything .30 cal doesnt matter cuz jhp .30 cal of any kind penetrates up to L3A

[warm gate]

I mean ive been using the .357 and i shoot the armored guys center mass usually with ap ammo but i use jhp for my rifle

[glass heart]

and enemies with L4 plates are pretty rare in this game

[desert island]

u can plan ahead for those rare guys too

[glass heart]

just shooting them a bunch with jhp usually works

[desert island]

i really like the 762 ap rounds tho

[glass heart]

its not that many more rounds to kill/ incap if you also hit pelvis/ limbs which obv jhp does well

[desert island]

i was able to kill 10 dudes on newamerica in 1 mag

when they pour out of their clown car double stairs room

[glass heart]

buckshot looks like its meta on ana

cuz it stuns when it hits plates and takes off limbs when it doesnt which is instakill

[desert island]

i dont like buckshot cuz it requires changing my habits

i just get used to shooting them in the body and being like why arent they dead when i have to follow up with arm shot

[sterile prism]

i did programmed psychosis with buckshot

peak them and hit their arm, theyre gone

[desert island]

shotguns r pretty meta tho cuz way more lenient

[mental ivy]

yeah shotguns are the best weps in the game because of this

[desert island]

but grenadelauncher super meta cuz extra super lenient

[mental ivy]

i always run a spread choke with buckshot to give it more lethality over range

[glass heart]

it doesnt really matter in my experience

buckshot spreads so little that youre getting the kill either way

i prefer the brake for semi auto shotguns

[mental ivy]

Apparently the Italian semi auto is better but I hate the way it looks and the reload is slower

[desert island]

both semi r italian

[glass heart]

both are italian btw

beretta and benelli are italian companies

[mental ivy]

📹 🦭

[desert island]

benelli and beretta

[mental ivy]

im never using semi auto shotguns again

[glass heart]

the b1301 is obviously beretta and the m1014 is the mil designation of the benelli m4

[desert island]

american shotguns bad heh

[crude prism]

M1014 so sexy.... mmmmm.... yes.....

[desert island]

the aa12 mod with fragrounds is hilarious tho

[glass heart]

true and based

[jolly verge]

[glass heart]

frangible rounds? or HE of some sort

[desert island]

HE

[glass heart]

civilian deaths ❌
acceptable collateral damage ✅

when i doubt just kill everything in the room and ask questions never

[desert island]

civilians are malicious if they block my shots

[glass heart]

i wonder if someone has made frags for dlc4

p sure the other mods are out of date now

[steady nymph]

Remember your ROE.

[glass heart]

nuh uh its more fun to mag dump people because in my videogame there are no consequences

[mental ivy]

ROE should be disabled on ANA

[desert island]

im rpin as a realistic cop

[glass heart]

i always deadcheck mlo fucks

[steady nymph]

Stand down! We have a use of force module for a reason.

[glass heart]

even if toc has a hissy fit

[desert island]

i hit em with the m32, yell at them for the camera, then tap them in head wit g18c

[mental ivy]

actually how does TOC even know ur violating ROE just forget to turn on your body camera

[glass heart]

lmao

[tribal swift]

https://tenor.com/view/thundercock-officer-bodycam-off-chad-thundercock-jarik-gif-5545953348826508263

[mortal geode]

epic embed fail

[modern mortar]

The achievement "My eyes, It Burns" still bugged?

[desert island]

toc turn off my bodycams i need to protect and serve

[vocal wing]

The lacquered box with jade dragon found next to the front desk in the station is suspicious as hell. I want to open it

[wind gyro]

@pliant juniper they wont add a workshop when mod.io is already in-game
#📩feedback-reports-channel message

[sullen shell]

Mod.io is 10 times worse then workshop but unfortunately thats what we're stuck with since they need it for modding on cosole

[vocal wing]

@sullen shell you can mod console?

[mortal geode]

"Mods are allowed on PC but not on consoles. If a PC host uses mods, console players cannot join, even if cross-play is enabled."

[vocal wing]

That's fucking lame. Is that going to change one day? Plenty of games have got console mods going with mod.io these days

[somber monolith]

the ironman starts now

[eternal drum]

attempting "way out west" achievement. apparently flashbangs count as a weapon

[somber monolith]

wish me luck y'all

[eternal drum]

best of luck. which difficulty?

[eternal drum]

if only mod.io had mods and not get wiped every major update

[crude prism]

Don't pull out a lock pick either.

Broken leg and locked door = restart time

[sullen shell]

mod io sucks

[unique zephyr]

BEST OF LUCK

[eternal drum]

mm yes the most lethal weapon: lockpick

[sullen shell]

just plain sucks

[wind gyro]

that would happen even with a workshop

[eternal drum]

mod.io sucks, but if its for console then its kind of neccessarry

also yeah, mods being wiped would be the same problem for all mods, its kind of its own issue

[sullen shell]

i just completed it, was really easy ngl. i had all my officers and myself equiped with flash bang launcher, light armor 12 flashbang ammo and all ai pepperball pistol with one mag and i gave myself as leader a Glock 18C with one mag but never had to use it

[sullen shell]

lol no i've never seen workshops being deleted cuz the game gets updated lmao

[wind gyro]

they wouldnt be deleted but they would make your game crash

[mortal geode]

I'm afraid not, consoles have very closed OS and games behave differently

[sullen shell]

they'd just get outdated like mods on nexus now so the author has to update it. only difference is we wouldn't have to download and install them again every damn update

[sullen shell]

yeah i mean an in game mod manger would be really handy and would automatically disable all mods when an update was released on games like Sea Power this is pretty much the case

[eternal drum]

modio and workshop would at least auto update. workshop miiiiight also just let you play the old version of the game but i dont understand how that new system works just yet

[finite bay]

Lore question: what exactly is the relationship between the Black Sentinel and the MLO? My understanding is that the former are acting as facilitators or subcontractors for the latter or is this not correct? I’m trying to wrap my head around the events of 3 Letter Triad, No Good Deed, and All Gods Must Burn. I’ve yet to finish A New America.

[somber monolith]

yea thats what im doing lmao

but im using mods so its more like 22 flashbangs and 3 taser cartridges with everyone on heavy armor

im gonna topple these guys especially considering i spent yesterday and the day before licking my wounds on my mistakes in hard mode

its like having a t800 come for you after multiple failed attempts

Just walked through thank you come again without a shot fired

easy pickins

[eternal drum]

the thugs in gas station are typically like that anyway. if you get the jump on them you dont even need to bump them

[somber monolith]

yea i know

but still we'll see how far it can take me

[gentle python]

I like playing tyca with the kriss vector mod and just mag dumping the suspects

[light pond]

I believe that the Black Sentinel group are being controlled by the MLO through some means. They are certainly serving their agenda in missions like "3 Letter Triad"

[somber monolith]

so excessive 😭

[somber monolith]

3 levels done

[thick dome]

does it seem like enemies on new america shoot through walls a whole lot

[somber monolith]

lmao so poetic for creep to start playing as i raid brixleys talent time

queuing paranoid for lethal obsession

[somber monolith]

Green day for ides of march was so the right play

21guns

[upbeat junco]

im about to buy the dlcs what is the sound track dlc do i need to buy it how does it work?

[eternal drum]

sound track dlc is most likely just the digital soundtrack, not related to the game app itself

gun not raised

[rocky plover]

He's still in hesitation state

[mortal geode]

nope, but here's something funny people often buy this thinking this is Game

[upbeat junco]

thankfully i doubled checked

how many maps are from the dlc combined from dark waters, boiling point and home invasion

what is los suenos stories thats an extra 2 maps

[rocky plover]

Yes for the console free update

[eternal drum]

free content

[mortal geode]

dlc that is not dlc

idk why people call it dlc even if it's in game

[tacit gull]

its still downloadable

[near aurora]

i wish RoN had more short high intensity missions like the taco shop one

[eternal drum]

its update content, you could draw the line between what is unchangeable. i.e. steam you can just turn off your dlc content

[grand skiff]

does no good deed have like insane variance in suspect count? its like anywhere from 5 suspects or 26

[blissful jolt]

can i get the ruined dev watch on casual mode

[somber monolith]

no i've only ever had like 7

[rocky plover]

Yes

[somber monolith]

no standard only

[blissful jolt]

do i gotta do all objectives or just complete the mission

[rocky plover]

If you follow the criteria for the watch

[somber monolith]

the ruined dev watch is for iironman

hermit amirite

[rocky plover]

6-8 on standard +5 on hard

[blissful jolt]

it just says beat all levels on iron man without dying or losing an officer

[rocky plover]

Yeah

[blissful jolt]

ok

[eternal drum]

no, you can get the watch doing ironman casual

achievements are difficulty dependent, standard and onwards

[rocky plover]

You just won't get achievements since those are standard and above

So if you just want the watch yea do it on casual, if you want both do it on standard

[somber monolith]

thats gay 😭

[opaque zealot]

Idk I think they need to turn down how aggressive of the suspects on new America idk it's just me but they are the most aggressive suspects ever if the want judge so bad can they just turn down how aggressive they are

[eternal drum]

yeah its why i want to redo it lmao

[somber monolith]

they're trained cia super soldiers

[blissful jolt]

so u did it on casual?

[opaque zealot]

What?

[eternal drum]

yeah, it only took just over 5hr

[blissful jolt]

i was doing it on standard and messed up on the cabin level

[rocky plover]

Lethal obsession?

[eternal drum]

i lost to the family house which was an incredible cockup on the Swat AI's part

[blissful jolt]

yeah sullivans slope

[rocky plover]

Damn

[blissful jolt]

bro the ai made me die so many times because they just stand in doorways

[eternal drum]

note: you can exfil with your team members if you think that the map's RNG sucks or to many hits have been taken. its a very tiny amount of stress added if any

[rocky plover]

Yea annoying, usually clear with leader works with that sometimes

[eternal drum]

yeah swat ai bug out and freeze if you tell them to clear a doorway and then change the state of the doorway, there's a lot of command limitations, they fail to flash if double stacked, teams execute independent instructions incorrectly (i.e. red does blue's queued instructions, then blue falls in)

[blissful jolt]

ima just get the watch on casual and if i feel like going for the achievement im gonna redo it

[eternal drum]

my goto squad is intimidator, nutritionalist, intimidator then whatevers filler. i still try to mostly nonlethal solely for keeping stress down

[onyx elk]

Found the issue. Whenever you replenish ammo at the stairway ammo crate on A New America, it deletes all places wedges.

[rocky plover]

For my ironman run I mostly used 1 nutritionist, 1 armorer, 2 veterans for the most part unless they were in therapy then I had fillers instead of them and I just went with lethal and killing most of them since it's easier

[rocky plover]

Yea I noticed this too, almost ruined my programmed psychosis run the other day lol I was like why is this dude still pushing the door after I had just wedged it and I noticed it was gone lol

[somber monolith]

just walked my way through the post office damn near uncontested lmao

light fuckin work

[eternal drum]

i havent actually tried veteran perks, how much of a difference does it make to their accuracy?

[teal hornet]

Best primary weapon for a new america?

[somber monolith]

any battle rifle or the b1301

[rocky plover]

As he said^ I used shotgun with buckshot for my programmed psychosis run

[rocky plover]

Don't know the values exactly but it was the next best thing for lethal after nutritionist and armorer

Yes negotiator and pacifier is good but only if your gonna S rank in my opinion which is riskier in ironman tbh

[jolly verge]

Values for hard difficulty

[eternal drum]

i dont like swapping my squad out bc thats a lot of officer rerolls to hire

thats a pretty alright buff

[somber monolith]

im going for emperor so i keep swapping them out lmao

[rocky plover]

I swapped out a lot cos I was sending guys to therapy left right and center to avoid them from leaving and resigning

[somber monolith]

if i fire someone can i get a new slot?

[rocky plover]

But I had multiples of nutritionist and armorer so that was good

[eternal drum]

yeah thats fair. i do have backup perks in case of stress but eueueh.

im also replaying gas station to get more officers and perks, i think thats more necessarry on standard/hard

[cedar mulch]

What is the accuracy rate for identifying suspects in Narcos and No Good Deed?

[somber monolith]

since im going for max nl effectiveness i've got riot control, nutritionist, intimidator and negotiator

[rocky plover]

Also i found it was better if I sent them to therapy earlier when I could, they would only be there for 1 or so map, not 3 instead

[somber monolith]

?

[rocky plover]

Max NL effectiveness ... Go for 2 negotiators and 2 pacifiers, best thing imo

[eternal drum]

i could be wrong but its one map for Stressed or lower and 3 for Crisis

[rocky plover]

Yea smth like that and there's anxious

I forgot it's been so long when I did my ironman, there wasn't casual mode back then either lol

[eternal drum]

anxious is one state above content

[rocky plover]

Yea

[somber monolith]

Riot Control ✅
S.B.A.G.S ✅
Paramedic ✅
Veteran ✅
Nutritionist ✅
Kicker
Intimidator ✅
Negotiator ✅
Breacher ✅
Armorer ✅
Pacifier ✅
Moral Officer ✅

progress for emperor

[eternal drum]

yeah my run feels so illegitimate but im calling it practice bc i dont want to settle with it.

[rocky plover]

@old flare 1 suspect incap/died thats why

[somber monolith]

if i fire someone do i get a new slot

[rocky plover]

Did you do the 2 kickers for door kicker while you getting emperor

[eternal drum]

oh i said intimidator, i meant negotiator bc it lowers morale solely by shouting. i think both are basically the same but eueueh

[somber monolith]

i havent got kickers yet

[rocky plover]

Yes

[somber monolith]

bet

[eternal drum]

yes but you get +1 state of anxiety for a random amount of officers

[rocky plover]

They are different tbh, intimidator is not that good

[eternal drum]

pretty sure you cant fire anyone if there's too much stress but i could be wrong

[rocky plover]

While negotiator is a no brainer op for S runs

[jolly verge]

They use global accuracy, 3.5 on standart and 2.5 on hard. There is some accuracy modifiers on these specific missions but idk about them

[somber monolith]

i have no stress mod ez

[eternal drum]

i've only been considering armorer, negotiator, nutritionalist, paramedic and maybe moral officer, all others i havent really considered

[blissful jolt]

wait do i need soft objectives for the ruined dev watch too

[rocky plover]

@karmic sphinx jesus Christ lol, hey at least it was in the beginning so no time wasted 😅

[somber monolith]

going to volls house

[rocky plover]

No but it would help for overall score just in case if you need to get a slightly better score in case shit goes sideways

[jolly verge]

You need to do what it says in description and nothing more

[blissful jolt]

alr thanks

[jolly verge]

[rocky plover]

First 3 the best including Pacifier, paramedic and moral officer sucks

[eternal drum]

with you not worried about non lethal thats fair that you dont use moral officer

paramedic is basically a +1 if your swat ai die by misbehaving and i really dont trust my squad i swear to god

[rocky plover]

Lmao you're gonna need NASA storage space

[eternal drum]

i dont even tell them to clear half the time

[rocky plover]

Yes but it doesn't save the ironman achievement and watch iirc

[jolly verge]

The Hermit only

[cedar mulch]

I remember that the difficulty rating for Narcos was 3.3 (normal difficulty).

[eternal drum]

my casual run and watch unlock featured two exfils on Relapse and two downed officers, one was lucky incapped and the second was paramedic incapped

[jolly verge]

Yeah, before some update, I don't remember which one

[rocky plover]

Ah I see, still prevention is better than cure I guess thats why I don't use it

[eternal drum]

yeah thats fair enough

[cedar mulch]

I remember that in Narcos Hard mode, there’s an extra bonus to accuracy.

[rocky plover]

Nice

I didn't wanna risk it so I just gave lethals to everyone and kinda speed ran it

[cedar mulch]

I wonder if they’re more accurate the further away they are, or if long-range shooting has been optimised.

[rocky plover]

And swapped out officers to avoid too much stress and send others to therapy

[eternal drum]

yeah thats my method of avoiding it. unintentionally got two s ranks and could have had a third but im soft completing anyway

also flash launchers give a lot of breathing space

[rocky plover]

True didn't have that back when I did my run lol

Yea hahaha same

[eternal drum]

oh damn interesting

[rocky plover]

I went with 4 fresh content guys in and came out stressed I was like wtf this has never happened

So I had to swap to another 4 guys that were less stressed for next map

[eternal drum]

meanwhile terrorist attacks with only two anxious

[rocky plover]

Some other people also spammed gas station S rank for example to gain morale but I didn't wanna do that - felt like a waste of time and I wanted to just get it over with

[jolly verge]

Worst strategy ever

[rocky plover]

So I swapped officers around and just sent them to therapy earlier

Only took 1 map instead of 3 since I sent them earlier

[eternal drum]

fetch moral officer, speedrun gas station non lethal, that would prolly fix their stress

[rocky plover]

Ye exactly

Well for that I can agree

Same I had a piece of paper and crossed out who I had already unlocked lol

[somber monolith]

LOL

[eternal drum]

is it required for one individual save?

[rocky plover]

That also works lol

[chilly thorn]

That makes sense, I know why it happens to, The ammo replenish is unintentional and is part of the asset, So it basically reloads your character.

[rocky plover]

Yeah in fact you have to reload the whole tube if using shotguns lol

Which made me sweat, thinking I'm gonna get jumped

[somber monolith]

okay despite me having the no stress mod these guys got anxious after i fired some chud

[rocky plover]

Lmao wtf was that first kill 😂

Did he die with the first shot or 2nd I can't tell for sure

[eternal drum]

clearly the mod only tweaked stress from kills

[mortal geode]

on the first shot

subtitles

[rocky plover]

I think so too because he didn't shoot you through the wood either lol

He would have wall banged you lol

[blissful jolt]

should i match weapon fov with world fov or have a higher weapon fov

[crude prism]

MLO are incompetent idiots who get mogged

The merc dudes put them to shame

[rocky plover]

Personal preference, I have mine set to 120 and weapon follow to follow world fov which becomes 120 as well

[eternal drum]

god i wish RON's game logic was ever "after he sees me" they turn to where you're heard then when all rays (which are always casted between your head and shoulders to their head) are positive, they will open fire after that shooting delay if hostile, which MLO grunts are always.

[blissful jolt]

i just wanna have my watch visible but at the same time it makes my weapon stock go into my chest

[rocky plover]

If you set world fov higher you could see more around you but everything would be smaller and if the weapon fov is then smaller than world fov it means the gun is closer to your POV

[eternal drum]

btw thats also why suspects snap-turn to you, because of the dumb raycasting thing.

[mortal geode]

this

[somber monolith]

fah

[crude prism]

Yeah this shit is ass.

MLO are actually fun (though cheesable because they need to not be literally talking out loud with their intentions)

All the voices lines for "stack up" "breaching" etc need to be removed.

Let them be silent killers who actually have a chance to catch careless teams unaware

[arctic timber]

Yall got any tips to S rank ANA?

Thinking of giving my whole team launchers lol

[mortal geode]

why is ANA hard but on other hand easy?

[arctic timber]

Might try this

[thick dome]

did they adjust AI on the last map? seem tk be getting insta killed constantly. like WAY WAY more than other maps

[crude prism]

50% of the suspects are incompetent (MLO) and 50% (mercs) perform 100mph strafe 1 taps without ever having seen or heard SWAT.

[mortal geode]

approved!

[somber monolith]

how do they go from anxious to stressed after we S a mission

[arctic timber]

My heart pounds like crazy when nearing the end of an S rank run

[idle burrow]

Do the suspects not make footstep noise

[jolly verge]

Elephant set officers stress at 0.5 (Stressed state)

[thick dome]

yeah...i had one a little while ago. we tripped a beam on purpose and backed up into a defensive hallway.

I was in the low crouch free lean. dude literally sprinted across a double open door and beamed me twice..in full deadass sprint before I could even react

[idle burrow]

Cause one pushed me and it was dead quiet so I got shocked from where they came from

[somber monolith]

i did elephant

[idle burrow]

funnily enough I heard the civs running sfx

[somber monolith]

whats after stressed

[thick dome]

pissed lol

[somber monolith]

or do they just resign after stressed

[bronze bough]

Is the P90 any good

[somber monolith]

i wanna know at what level do i have to send them to therapy

[rocky plover]

Yea but mp7 better imo

[mortal geode]

send yourself after relapse

[rocky plover]

I think it's content, anxious, stressed, crisis

[bronze bough]

What makes the MP7 better

[rocky plover]

Maybe last 2 are switched I forgot

[jolly verge]

Stress values
0 - 0.19 Content
0.2 - 0.49 Anxious
0.5 - 0.74 Stressed (with 0.5 you can start send them to therapy)
0.75 - 1 Crisis

[cedar mulch]

Just how skilled is the suspect at the amusement park? When it comes to long-range shooting?

[rocky plover]

Much more controllable imo, especially with correct attachments

[jolly verge]

They resign only after hitting 0.9 stress iirc and if there is no space in therapy, after mission only

[somber monolith]

you mean the one from the video or the level

[edgy verge]

did they change anything on the Hunger strike map? it just went from easy map to "they kill civs within the first 20 seconds"?

[somber monolith]

because in my head those are 2 different people

[jolly verge]

It's 60 seconds before they start seeking civilians to kill them

[rocky plover]

OMFG loooool geets

[jolly verge]

30 on hard

[cedar mulch]

What is the accuracy of fast food?

[somber monolith]

finally got a kicker

[rocky plover]

Jesus Christ he was staggered as well but he got close to you and your gun went to high ready

[jolly verge]

Suspects use global accuracy value here

[rocky plover]

And follow up shots barely did anything to him

[sinful walrus]

Question: okay so the enemy has better armor than us to the point even a guy in a hoodie can eat two rounds of .308win and 6.5cm and only be incapacitated, and the enemy has weapons training including random druggies while our swat officers can't handle weapons well in any regard, and by movement speed and noise they've also never worn their gear before. Why did lspd not just hire local criminals and pay them well if even the supposedly well trained judge has less physical ability than ralphie in a christmas story?

[somber monolith]

kicker only trait i havent unlocked

[jolly verge]

It's 8 shots to steel plate to kill the player from 7.62x51 vs 1-2 for the suspect , not to mention you have infinity heal

[rocky plover]

Bruh you're gonna have enough to do a tv show about this

[sinful walrus]

Really? Been 1 tapped at full health by 5.56 and lower from a suspect in heavy steel plate armor with helmet and ballistic mask

[jolly verge]

That not a thing

[edgy verge]

why did it go from "2 rivaling gangs" to "we kill everyone and everything"?

[cedar mulch]

What would happen if you put an elite hitman from Narcos in a post office?

[jolly verge]

Idk

[sinful walrus]

The caliber they killed me with that they do in fact have? Or the armor that I was wearing that we do in fact have?

[cedar mulch]

After all, their accuracy benefits from an additional bonus

[rocky plover]

Yeeee should be slightly easier with mouse and keyboard tbh

OMFG

[jolly verge]

Im just telling you that you can't die from 1 hit unless you have no helmet, even without armor you still can survive 2 rounds of 7.62x51 to the torso on standart difficulty

[latent oak]

i swear if somebody says this is a skill issue but has anyone started just randomly getting killed out of nowhere when there isnt even any enemy in the room with you i dont a few shots and dead i mean instant death as if you hit a tripwire or something but without the trip wire

[rocky plover]

Hahahahah bruh he didn't get staggered

[mortal geode]

ship steering wheel 😭

[sinful walrus]

I agree it shouldn't be likely but it's happened too many times. Literally just had a match 10 minutes ago where I walked into a room at full health, 1 bang then I died.

[crude prism]

Gotta keep Judge's diet balanced in the after-action or else you get the "heart attack" random event

[rocky plover]

Bahahahhahahs

[latent oak]

lmao

[jolly verge]

Feel free to post a clip of that

[rocky plover]

This was a good one

[chilly thorn]

Preference

[arctic timber]

Watching the secret ending. His apartment is trash

[chilly thorn]

No gun in this game is truly bad

[rocky plover]

Ye lol or more aggressive

[arctic timber]

“Damn judge. You live like this?”

[outer wharf]

Did the game get any updates/reworks to the surrendering animations and AI behaviour? I want to get back into it if it's got some fixes in those regards.

[sinful walrus]

As I said, 10 minutes ago, xbox cuts off at 1 minute.

[mortal geode]

TPL

[chilly thorn]

Still effective

[jolly verge]

TPRL*

[mortal geode]

oh sorry, you win

[grim spear]

Bruh they execute hostages immediately on hunger strike

[chilly thorn]

gonna say it, I LOVE the pepperball pistol.

[cedar mulch]

Is there a significant difference between UPF of DLC1 and that of DLC2?

[chilly thorn]

I think its fun, but im partial to pepperballs ingeneral

[crude prism]

RNG is a bitch.

You can legit be killed in ~60ms on Hard and ~90ms on Standard if you get headshot chained.

[cedar mulch]

Is the UPF in DLC1 not very accurate?

[jolly verge]

What is UPF?

[chilly thorn]

Not gonna hold you, This is a good thing.

[idle burrow]

Just got killed by a suspect repositioning and I didn't hear jack shit

[crude prism]

What does "not gonna hold you" mean?

[idle burrow]

Man I'd love media perms

[chilly thorn]

Random oneshots are a good thing and keep combat scary. It encourages not getting into fights or pulling dumb-manuvers

[chilly thorn]

not gonna lie

[somber monolith]

do they get anxious doing neon tomb too

[rocky plover]

United planet front

[jolly verge]

Only Elephant does it

[mortal geode]

no

[somber monolith]

okay

[crude prism]

100%, though I would like Void to actually fix the paperdoll at some point so it isn't bugged, giving wrong information, and/or unreadable.

[somber monolith]

i need my kicker to unlock his trait

[chilly thorn]

I think they should remove the paperdoll the only purpose it serves is the red outline (which already has a sound queue) and telling you your leg is broken

[somber monolith]

and then find another kicker

[chilly thorn]

why doesn't judge just kick with a different leg

[somber monolith]

to see damage?

[crude prism]

It also displays the quality of your other limbs for their appropriate debuffs, and the status of breakable armor, such as helmets and ceramic plates

[chilly thorn]

ig

[rocky plover]

hp

[crude prism]

I have no idea what changed btw, I need to actually scan the difficulty files for changes lmao

[chilly thorn]

basically just low hp

[crude prism]

Nah that isn't my footage either, just one back from LSS that was posted in here that I yoinked

[cedar mulch]

Version 1.0 AI vs. Hard difficulty AI. Which is scarier?

[chilly thorn]

who makes graphs of this shit

[crude prism]

You can thank Aspid for that one

[chilly thorn]

Adam update AI was worse then 1.0 Ai

[brisk pewter]

Anyone wanna play at all?? My group randomly blocked me and everything

[rocky plover]

Yes

[latent oak]

depends on what mission

[crude prism]

Infinitely, back to 80 each time you stop a bleed

[brisk pewter]

I’m down to do any mission

[rocky plover]

👍

[crude prism]

Yeah the in-theory fastest reaction times possible are roughly 50ms on Hard and 100ms on Standard, assuming they're active already, aiming at you, etc

[idle burrow]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art This some bullshit

[crude prism]

I'm gonna compare the before-and-after right now, see if it was a direct change to the difficulty or a behavioral change in the AI trees

[chilly thorn]

they place the barrel in your mouth

[idle burrow]

I mean you and I are doing programmed psychosis

[chilly thorn]

in truth its just game balancing, if you let a suspect in your face you die.

[crude prism]

Suspects should also get short stocked with long weapons, give there an actual reason to take short weapons (it's still mostly irrelevant)

Bash fight!

[latent oak]

if i hop on again i will let you know but somthing came up

[chilly thorn]

its not realisitic but its a videogame so who cares

[blissful jolt]

Bro I hate twisted nerve so much

[chilly thorn]

I think if you get a suspect that close to you, its your fault and you should die.

[mortal geode]

tell me why

[idle burrow]

The suspect entered the door, went my position and decided to shoot me

[chilly thorn]

Not really. its meant to be a sucessor to swat 4

[blissful jolt]

I can barely see and some of the npcs have hoarse voices
Also imo it feels like the longest mission

[idle burrow]

If I took the fight directly I'd die

[chilly thorn]

in swat 4 if a suspect got too close to you it would have the same issue

[blissful jolt]

Twisted nerve and rust belt gotta be the longest missions

[warm gate]

I ran through ana with a slug shotgun and a .357 earlier whats wrong with me

[chilly thorn]

The game literally plays like a modernized swat 4, The soundtrack is inspired by swat 4, the levels are inspired by swat 4, the equipment is inspired by swat 4. The devs origin is from a swat 4 mod.

[mortal geode]

do you use nvgs?

[blissful jolt]

yeah but some of the areas still seem dark and when I hear the npc with the hoarse voice it’s creepy as hell

[opaque zealot]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
@idle burrow in this scenario u lowkey gotta be quick as hell and gun bash them

either spam bash them or bash them and take a step back as quick as u can to magdump them

[edgy citrus]

I got a question!

[mortal geode]

ask

[somber monolith]

another achievement pop baby

emperor

[edgy citrus]

If I have a mod installed and i'm on PC, can I still join my friends on console?

[mortal geode]

im afraid not

what mod do you have?

[edgy citrus]

It's a mod my friend sent to me that gives you like 25 slots

[somber monolith]

just run safe mode

[mortal geode]

i only play vanilla but pc cant play with console when they have mod

[edgy citrus]

There are 3 options first one is obv Cross-play, Allow modded players, Join modded servers! Does console only have the option for Crossplay?

[crude prism]

Yeah okay so as far as I can tell literally nothing changed for Hard mode lol.

They didn't change any of the reaction time, lock on time, stimulus reaction etc etc etc.

I don't think they changed anything

If they did, it's buried where I can't reasonably scry it in the AI archetypes

[idle burrow]

Or they did and it's like 1ms slower

[crude prism]

Go wild.

[mortal geode]

i think the "Hotfix" made MLO more harder

[sacred skiff]

Soooo I completed Ironman without losing an officer and neither achievements popped. Tell me the DLC maps don’t count towards this

[mortal geode]

nope they dont

[sacred skiff]

Where are my achievements

[edgy citrus]

U down to play sometime?

[mortal geode]

i usually play with randoms but okay

[blissful jolt]

whats the hardest mission on ironman mode
im worried about relapse and rust belt

[mortal geode]

okay guys i need to go to sleep bc its almost 3AM for me, goodnight

[idle burrow]

Vro I'm feeding this to Claude to se the differences

[sacred skiff]

For me so far, Hide & Seek and Greased Palms.

[crude prism]

It's gonna halucinate some bullshit and it's gonna be peak

[blissful jolt]

if i go full lethal will it just make them resign

[opaque zealot]

i did all gods burn w/o armor or any grenades equipped and didnt use my long tactical and didnt get the achivement

[blissful jolt]

yeah ima just go non lethal

[idle burrow]

So anyway the differences seem to be a typo on Line 95, "SuspectRequiredTimeSpentOnTargetOnTarget" has been changed to "SuspectRequiredTimeSpentOnTarget"

[opaque zealot]

is there some small specification they just didnt list

[idle burrow]

Other than that no numerical differences whatsoever

[somber monolith]

cant even use multitool or anything iirc

[crude prism]

LOL, so the fix was them fixing a typo where they accidentally wrote out the code for "time spent on target 50ms" so it was probably 0ms instead?

So we're just back to the INTENDED bullshit

50ms isn't a difference anyone is gonna feel when we're still gonna be at or under 100ms reactions

[opaque zealot]

dumb factor imo bc if ur tryna do it solo then u cant even get locked doors open

[idle burrow]

@void pls fix

[somber monolith]

kick i think

[balmy patio]

shit i think one of my teammates shot the jammer

[opaque zealot]

the humble broken leg:

[somber monolith]

hittin my last 2 missions fo rironman

[balmy patio]

honestly i dont even mind the 50ms, i mind the double firerate increase they get, it means that you end up taking way more bullets out of a split second than possible, although the reaction time can be pretty BS since even with mirror gun prefire they will always get a shot off on you

[crude prism]

Yeah the double firerate is just straight up slop nonsense, on top of the HUGE accuracy, reaction time, morale, stress, hearing, vision, enemy count, etc buffs

[idle burrow]

#🎬ron-clips-and-media LMAO

You can see the suspect shooting before he actually aims at me

[balmy patio]

i forgot does your doc have their headshot accuracy chances? it does seem that they do drop their accuracy a bit when under gunfire but not to the point of them missing their shots regardless of distance

it just feels that they go for body shots when on gunfire alot more often

[idle burrow]

Also the frame I die doesn't even correlate to the suspect hitting me THIS GAME IS GREAT LOL

[balmy patio]

u can survive for pretty long even indefinitely as long as they dont just insta pixel frame two tap you in the head

programmed psychosis my beloved

[crude prism]

Yeah they'll start shooting before being 100% on target, but they also have a slight cone where shots can be fired.

Suspects/SWAT don't shoot out of the barrel like we do

Goofy ah

[idle burrow]

Having made some enemy AI in UE and Unity this makes sense

[crude prism]

There's no explicit targeting chance for hitzones afaik

I believe they just target whichever bone/targetable hitzone is exposed first(?)

No clue if they will change zones randomly/intentionally or whatever else

[sour turret]

are there gonna be new maps and stuff added?

[balmy patio]

next year maybe gang 🤭

[sour turret]

yeo what? next year is insane

[lost inlet]

Boiling point just dropped last week and people already demanding for more smh.

[balmy patio]

gang they were radio silent for like almost a year dont expect anything soon nephew

[sour turret]

nah i mean like in the future im not begging but im just asking if this is gonn abe the last dlc

[sour turret]

mb i lwk forgot abt that

[lost inlet]

Most likely not cause RoN is in a pretty good spot right now in the media.

[balmy patio]

theres a pretty funny typo on the "kevlar ceramic steel" tab on the mechanic info dump section

[opaque zealot]

They need to buff the beanbag shotgun and it doesn't make sense I empty a hole 6 or 7 shots and they still don't command to stop

[azure night]

Hey guys I noticed that some people can lean/peak much further what keybind is that?

[full shore]

It's hacks but you would have died anyways lol. Putting your gun away while walking towards an open door after shining your laser into the room type shit 😭

[crude prism]

I put those in there for funsies (I'm lying where is it?)

[somber monolith]

we're on the last mission for the ironman

[idle burrow]

Ye I was at my boiling point anyways so I'm taking a break

[somber monolith]

it all comes down to this

[crude prism]

They can't see lasers still

[rough hearth]

alt + A/D

[balmy patio]

sent u a SS

[balmy patio]

u tryna get programmed psychosis?

[azure night]

Thanks

[idle burrow]

Yessir, legitimately if possible

[rough hearth]

ive put 30 hours into trynna get that so far, keep dying to ridiculous things.

[rough hearth]

you can get lower with S and holding shift, basically on the ground at that point

[vale fog]

M16A2 20inch barrel when?

[crude prism]

Surely we can pick up a few off the floor of ANA

[vale fog]

I see it in game I just can’t use it :/

[crude prism]

That's what I'm saying!!!!

They need to not put it on the armory wall

[full shore]

Not complaining, but crazy how we got an 18 inch ar10 before M16 lol

[vale fog]

And Is there a way players that join your game can change their chem lights color on their uniform? Like if one wants to be blue team. They can change that via group settings?.
only can swap to blue or red, gold is only for host

Would be pretty neat detail.

[balmy patio]

oh yeah i forgot, as long as they are on LOS you cant be shot to your sides right?

[crude prism]

Basically the AI can only "see" roughly these specific dots on your body

If none of these are visible, you're good.

(no they can't see equipment or anything either)

[frail pier]

If they removed the increased fire rate I'll be a happy man.

That's literally all I fucking ask for. It's just stupid and lazy

[balmy patio]

yeah they already shoot fast enough, going through an encounter and getting shot twice through prefire sucks, it just makes you metagame the armor even harder

[frail pier]

Oh 1 more thing

Remove fucking casual

[lost inlet]

Ohh so that’s why they can’t shoots your legs while you’re holding the shield.

[crude prism]

You have to be facing them pretty straight on, but yes, in theory.

As long as you are facing them and they are standing in "front" of you, it is not possible to be hit on a side or rear torso hitzone

(if the bullet collides with your side it will still hit your front plate)

[somber monolith]

do you have to sit for credits for the ruined dev watch

[frail pier]

No

[crude prism]

they can still target your calf and "miss" low, but yeah

[opaque zealot]

Not going to lie am not s ranking the new America because at this point it's so damn buggy am going to just watch the s rank ending on YouTube

[somber monolith]

so as soon as you do the hermit you get it

[vale fog]

Casual is kinda useless. Get no goods from it

[somber monolith]

because i just finished port

[frail pier]

You should get it as soon as you do port (C+ or higher don't quote me on this, I did this at the start of 1.0) but things could've changed.

[balmy patio]

does console even get aim assist? havent played with them

[frail pier]

It's not even just that, it's the fact that it's another thing that void would have to worry about. Should've just been Standard and Hard.

Standard is already a cake walk on most levels.

[crude prism]

There is bullet magnetism and aim assist that can be turned on and off

[lost inlet]

So you have the answer for why AP .45 3 shots standard lvl2 plate suspect from yesterday?

[crude prism]

Hard mode or mod

[vale fog]

Why do I actually have to magdump a guy with a Glock 19 like it’s a leaked officers bodycam on a suspect that has no armor

[crude prism]

Void has some suspect models without visual armor that still have it equipped (for funsies)

[lime kernel]

Guys, I got a question

Is nutritionist gives regeneration, or just increases amount of HP

[vale fog]

Are you fucking kidding me

[lost inlet]

Yah figured.

[lost inlet]

Increase.

[vale fog]

How much shit do I not know about this game what the hell

[frail pier]

Always has been, I'm pretty sure they just fixed that for narcos somewhat recently.

[lost inlet]

Around ~25%.

[frail pier]

We have door boosting tech in RoN.

There's a rabbit hole in this game you haven't fell into yet

Double doors that fling you

[lime kernel]

I'm not sure if I'm in adequate state, but

Do we have Regeneration in game...? I thought I got that shit sometimes when I heal a little bit

[idle burrow]

S ranking is easy imo, just use nade launchers, beanbags on teammates, C2 breach and bingo

[frail pier]

Not in vanilla. The most you get is healed to 50 something HP after you patch bleed. But nothing going past that.

[opaque zealot]

Ohh really I did that

[vale fog]

Nah, yesterday. Mindjot gaurds.
See a guy. I aim center mass/ pelvis. Controlled pairs.
Doesn’t flinch or budge. I shoot two more
Nothing I shoot two more
Nothing i shoot two more
Teamate with M4 benelli blows his shoot smooth off

[crude prism]

Unless they fixed it, it starts disabled in the settings too, but is actually fully enabled and must be turned on and off manually for it to take effect

[lime kernel]

So technically, there is a little Regen, just not in regular meaning of things?

[subtle silo]

Where did doc go

[vale fog]

Door Boosting? What’s that

[frail pier]

MMMM or aspid should know the exact stats on it.

I really don't know though. I just die when I die gang

[crude prism]

If under 50% HP you heal back to 50% HP whenever you stop a bleed.

This scales with the nutritionist health increases.

So 160 health base 50% is 80.

With 1 nutritionist, 200 health 50% is 100

[lime kernel]

I just thought what I saw sometimes, very rarely, when the boards of my character gets from slightly red to white (where it shows the state of limbs and overall health)

I may be delusional, since I sleep ≈ 2 hours per night

[frail pier]

Any double door that was interacted with by you, swat, a suspect or civ and as long as one door is opened towards you with the other closed. You get the prompt to open both doors once you're up against it. If you do it right it'll fling you

There's quite a bit of stupid niche shit in this game.

[lost inlet]

[eternal drum]

finally a bug that benefits us

[frail pier]

Good luck it's niche as fuck, it only works well on a few maps (Neon, hospital, sins to name a few)

And again only on double doors

It won't send you that far

[somber monolith]

how has unlocking kickers been harder than Sing the hermit

[lime kernel]

So, technically, if I grab 4 nutritionist

I'd heal 108...

[frail pier]

When next DLC

[crude prism]

I forget the scaling, but it's drastically reduced after the first for stacking it.

Basically you only want 1 because it's a 25% boost while onward is only a few extra % points per

[lime kernel]

35% on 4 nutritionists

So basically

Nutritionist, armorer, ||flint and|| steel plates, heavy armor, and pray for passing the Relapse on hard

[crude prism]

Yeah. So half HP would be 108 (216 base)

[crude prism]

[lime kernel]

Oh, + moral officer and S.B.A.G.S

So when I go lethal on hard officers won't freak out

[lost inlet]

Or just spam s rank gas station after each mission.

[lime kernel]

well yeah, that's how I regenerated it

[lime kernel]

But there's the catch

If I kill too many, officers would say "NAH" and hop off

[sour gull]

anyone able to tell me why the devs disabled family sharing?

[crude prism]

People were sharing supporter edition is the reason that was given I believe

[cedar mulch]

Suppose Ron released a PvP VIP mode. Would it be a good idea to let players take on the role of Jack Adams?

[crude prism]

I think this would let out a lot of stress for the community, so yeah

[stable kernel]

This I like

[stable kernel]

This does not bring joy

I would also like to clarify that I believe target zones is for shooting at SWAT, not seeing SWAT. Setting it to head only (used to) make them shoot only the head, not see only the head.

[crude prism]

Well they have to see a bone to target it right

Same difference

[stable kernel]

You would hope

But we both know that is not the case

[crude prism]

I mean I know the exceptions to visual targeting (in theory)

Like reacting to damage stimuli

[stable kernel]

Also turn in your gun and your badge for that poor joke

[crude prism]

Which one

I do those pretty often

[stable kernel]

There will be no Minecraft jokes here

[crude prism]

How we feeling about the "what a Ready or Not PvP round end might look like"

[stable kernel]

I am not sure what you mean by that

[crude prism]

#👮ron-discussion message

It's barely a meme, I put text over an existing shitpost

And the average Zack Bower BANGER

[stable kernel]

I will allow it

[humble mauve]

with the new match replay intermission these being reintroduced would be epic

[jaunty cloud]

anybody know why my teammate isnt getting "the hanged man"?
He only used taser, flash, and riot shield on his back. Ammo taken off everything, never equipped multitool or the shield.
I used an AR, Pistol, riot shield on my back, and wedges

We've completed it 3 times with a passing grade and he still hasnt gotten it

[crude prism]

We can dream

[delicate moon]

Something is missing from modern tactical shooters that the original Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six absolutely nailed. Now I can't speak for everyone else who enjoys Ready or Not, but the ones who played Rainbow Six know that it was an awesome mechanic to the game. I believe a lot of people would love to see rappelling and window surveillance make a return. It would fit perfectly with the direction this game is already going.

[cedar mulch]

Narcos could be turned into a PvP mode, allowing players to take on the role of a drum-magazine rifleman.

[keen rover]

aim assist is enabled by default now, at least on pc

[crude prism]

This does nothing for M&K tho, only messes with stuff if you have a controller plugged in

Good to know it's on by default at least now

[somber monolith]

how do you guys do like the studio thing

where you watch back your gameplay

[vagrant scroll]

gameplay review?

[somber monolith]

yea how

[vagrant scroll]

i know its on PC, but sadly not on console.

[somber monolith]

im on pc i just dont know how

[vagrant scroll]

I believe its in the main menu?

[cedar mulch]

I think VOID could introduce an invasion PvP mode where two or three suspects in the PvE map are controlled by players, who can jog around and direct the AI suspects to attack SWAT players.

[vagrant scroll]

should be under mods or settings as its own thing called replay

[somber monolith]

anyway im sending cag to clear los suenos

so we're about to kill brixley

[vagrant scroll]

brixley hate will not be tolerated
(if you set aside the fact of who he is)

[somber monolith]

what else is there to him

[vagrant scroll]

not a clue..

poor guy gets shot 1000 times a day.

[warm gate]

My client pleads oopsie daisy

Meaning that brixley,michael, and voll deserve to get shot

Especially while blasting skillet and running the whole map with a shotgun

[snow harness]

Is there a way to toggle voice chat instead of push to talk? My buddy using a controller has it voice activated somehow, but I am only seeing push to talk for computer

[vagrant scroll]

there is a bind for mute/unmute (d-pad up) but thats all i know about on controller as i play console.

[warm gate]

There might be something in audio options or you could use discord voice chat

[vagrant scroll]

objection your honour, brixley slipped and fell onto the gun which then accidentally shot beaumont and his team

[warm gate]

Your honor judge just said nuh uh to dying and dumped a m104 into all of the people there

[vagrant scroll]

hmm... i don't know how to comeback at that.

[warm gate]

Welp with brixley dead the lspd win the case

[somber monolith]

my preferred method of extreme violence is c2 charges and 9 bangs while 5 dudes with hks kill everything in the room

okay i got doorkickers

[warm gate]

I have a clip somewhere in the clips channel but i burst into the building and shredded a suspect with a 12 gauge

[somber monolith]

now i just need sleeper agent

[somber monolith]

who wanna help me

[vagrant scroll]

I like to take it nice a slow with a G17 and slowly put AP bullets through the goodie bags of all male suspects.. same goes for females because equality exists

[warm gate]

I take center mass shots but theres been times suspects lost limbs

cough cough amos voll

[vagrant scroll]

Very relatable, BUT! rip janey.

[vagrant scroll]

Case Closed

[warm gate]

I shot volls wife

[vagrant scroll]

first or second 🤨

[warm gate]

2nd

[bitter sail]

yo

anyone wanna do a new america

[opaque zealot]

THEY NEED TO FIX THEIR FREAKING GAME DUDE WHY DID Just CRASHED FOR, GUESS WHAT its on FUCKING NEW AMERICA LIKE WHAT THE HELL

[dark egret]

Goys does enemy AI notice flashlights?

[opaque zealot]

Yes it's a great way to get their location

[dark egret]

I dont think so

[opaque zealot]

They do audio cues when they see it

[dark egret]

When the enemies find out where I am they start shooting at me through concrete walls

[opaque zealot]

I hate when the AI shoot to walls bro like it's so unfair

[dark egret]

True

Also when they fire a burst at my head while running
Without missing a single shot

[opaque zealot]

Like rn am piss off game crashed on the horrible map new America of course it is on a map with a lot of bugs of course

[somber vigil]

This game is so bad I went back to mw19😭✌🏽

[opaque zealot]

Lol

[paper topaz]

I'm getting 6-20fps on minimum settings and my framerate does not change when I lower my settings. My entire computer is running at these low framerates with the game open but I am only using <20% CPU and GPU and have more than 10GB free RAM

[distant iris]

Hey I have a question I saw an old post saying that the console pre order weapons would be available again at some point, im on ps5 and what like to use them, is there any update on that or im i just locked out permanently?

[paper topaz]

this moron didn't upgrade her drivers

[hollow bolt]

whats the best primary to use?

[paper topaz]

personal preference

[lime kernel]

Anything you want

All guns works ± fine

[winged python]

I just spent 70 minutes on New America doing the solo mission and lost because I forgot to turn off the detonator. I feel so dumb.

[loud socket]

best non lethal?

[winged python]

Bean bags I think

[somber wolf]

Anything with .300BLK (Good for CQC)
Any of the battle rifles (For heavy duty application)
The JHP and AP of each respective caliber have the same armor penetration
Shotguns are good if you can hit limbs with buckshot, or center-mass with slugs

[winged python]

Really depends on the enemy armor level in the level you play. All rifle AP rounds pierce L4s while all rifle JHP pierce L3A with the exception of 5.56 which pierces 2. Bullets that don’t pierce do durability damage to the enemy armor before they can damage the enemy I think.

[primal matrix]

is there any easy way to pass postal service at hard mode?

[cedar mulch]

Greased Palms VS 3 Letter Triad VS New America. Who Win

[keen rover]

yea so people got locked out of the game cuz they ran out of rename items

and it's 200 gb gang

[pseudo hull]

is ana the only map with an ammo restock

[coral yacht]

Tasers, they force a comply 100% of the time and you still can roll in with rifles. soo lets say there's multiple suspects in a room you throw a flashbang in, tell your squad to fall in diamond formation and you push in the room while shooting suspects that's the furthest away from the flashbang while spamming yell button, if you get shot immediately it means you have less than 1 intimidation officer skill in your roster

[keen rover]

does training count

[pseudo hull]

i dont think so

theres a box full of ammo in sins of the father i think but you cant interact with it

[spiral seal]

No armor, pistol only, solo new america on hard is making me lose it

[pseudo hull]

why are you doing this 😭

[spiral seal]

“It would be funny to run a g18c and do a yn loadout through new america”

[pseudo hull]

LOL

[coral yacht]

anything that's 5.56, i like the scar cause when using the black scar with boot stock mod its the prettiest rifle ever, 300 blackout is good but idk if its cause im using mods but it couldnt penetrate armor it just does blunt force damage

[spiral seal]

Im quitting tonight on attempt 94

[pseudo hull]

that sounds fun but its hard

[spiral seal]

Listen to von while doing it

Tried on multiplayer which was a godsend but we couldnt even do it then

[final jacinth]

what gun would you recommend for "programmed psychosis"?

[pseudo hull]

shoutout the f90

[spiral seal]

Arn 180 or g36

[coral yacht]

hk51 or fal i guess cause it only takes 1 shot to kill idk about the new 6.5 creedmor rifle

[spiral seal]

New 6.5 is peak but the length makes me feel like im shaq walkin out of the shower

[coral yacht]

once i used the supressed 6.5 on the dorms mission it was so annoying the gun was pointed upwards most of the time due to the doorways and other random shit... had to quit and change weapons

[pseudo hull]

medal of valor completed

[spiral seal]

I like it on hide and seek with the sfmb. That shit has no recoil

[pseudo hull]

is judge made out of rubber

[idle burrow]

Wait I'm reading the hard difficulty text file sent earlier today and I see this:
AIStunDuration = 4.0 ; How long the AI is stunned for (in seconds) BeanbagStunDuration = 1.5 ; How long the AI is stunned for by beanbags (In seconds) ; -1 second from standard AINineBangerStunDuration = 5 ; How long the AI is stunned for by ninebangers (In seconds)
So I imagine the only reason to carry standard flashbangs is to get a slightly larger range over nine bangers?

[coral yacht]

i believe so... if void made it so the 9 banger is superior in every way there would be no reason to use the standard flashbang

[idle burrow]

ALSO THE SWAT ACCURACY IS SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE THAN THE SUSPECT ACCURACY LMAO WHAT THE HELL

SuspectAccuracy is 2.5 whereas SWAT is 3.2 (lower is more accurate)

[final jacinth]

are shotguns good on new america?

especially programmed psychosis, cuz i tried b1301

[coral yacht]

makes sense actually cause if suspect's accuracy is worse than your teammates doing stupid things wouldn't be as punishing

[idle burrow]

One of the YT videos I saw was someone using the B1301. It's good to permanently disarm suspects

[coral yacht]

idk cause most MLO suspects are armored

[pseudo hull]

i wonder what the teams accuracy is like with veterans

[idle burrow]

Speaking of which I thought gibbing a suspect has been removed with the Console ports, has it been brought back? I was able to gib like 40 suspects out of pure rage

[rich ocean]

what dose that mean

gibby?

[coral yacht]

yk when you shoot suspects limb with a shotgun on their legs and their legs just get decapitated that's called gibbing

[primal yoke]

most definitely is back

i blew a suspects arm off down a whole ass hallway

[coral yacht]

yk the one thing i wish void would've done is ragdoll suspects that got tased, cause irl getting tased would stiffen your body and make you fall down (most of the time)

[pseudo hull]

is wearing a helmet worth it...

[coral yacht]

for coolness factor hell yeah

[primal yoke]

depends on the mission

[pseudo hull]

i kind of want the cap

[primal yoke]

the new police caps they’ve got look sick icl, especially if you run an echo character in MP

cap + headset + balaclava

[coral yacht]

in all seriousness i think void made headshots rare cause they know getting instakilled from across the map by a suspect you didnt see is just plain ol bullshit sooo yeah the cap is worth it

[primal yoke]

tell that to the new DLC AIs

[coral yacht]

oh

[primal yoke]

was getting consistently 1 tapped when engaging, forgot i had no helmet

[lost inlet]

it's still meta.

[pseudo hull]

my average grade being a c is bothering me lol

[coral yacht]

y'all what's your favorite assault rifle to use?

[idle burrow]

SA58 my fav battle rifle

Tbh most AR's are the same to me so I just settle for precision Battle Rifles

[primal yoke]

MK18 solely for the size, i like the balance of CQB and stopping power while still being capable long range

[idle burrow]

Also the SA58 I swear takes 2 shots to knock someone out in Programmed Psychosis

[primal yoke]

i do run the MCX and G36 a lot though

[coral yacht]

mine is the MK18 solely because with the broomhandle vertical foregrip anpeq and eotech it looks straight out of GWOT

[primal yoke]

now what about sidearms 🤔

[vestal mauve]

G36C/M9 combo

[primal yoke]

i literally have not stopped using the staccato since the update

[vestal mauve]

Just like old times in COD 4

[cedar mulch]

Who would have thought that the LSPD’s MK18 would actually be inferior to the LLDP?

[coral yacht]

the black 1911... looks cool and i dont use sidearms anyways

[vestal mauve]

The TLE?

[coral yacht]

the m9 in ready or not is just ugly i think its cause im soo used to the beretta 92fs i dont like how the b92x trigger guard looks like

[primal yoke]

idk since the addition of patrol uniforms i’ve been running default patrol officer with sidearm only a lot lol

[coral yacht]

yessir

[primal yoke]

makes things interesting up until you get demolished by anyone with anything stronger than a 45

[coral yacht]

oh for the first three missions i use the glock when playing as a patrol officer, using a mod that makes pistols available and giving glocks to all your squad members makes it realistic (ish)

*available as primary weapon

[coral yacht]

thats why i aim for the head.. in ready or not 45 acp sucks ass it does almost the same damage as a 9mm with less capacity and more recoil

[primal yoke]

yeah i had the same one, saved the loadout and it works once the mod is uninstalled too

[lost inlet]

ARN-180.

[lost inlet]

no... .45 does a lot more damage than 9mm and has more range as well.

use the USP more instead of the 1911s, one of the best handgun.

[winged python]

USP or Five7 for more armored peeps and Staccato or G18C for others

[cerulean anvil]

this New America map is wild

[hollow finch]

it does yes

[hollow finch]

USP for armor are you crazy?

has pretty much the same pen as 9mm, useless past L2 armor. 5-7, .357 and .50AE are the only reliable pistol rounds for armor above the very basic protection

[pseudo hull]

when will the ana suspects not onetap me from 2000 yards away through a 1 inch glass panel

these guys are actual super soldiers

[hollow finch]

if youre getting a pistol without intending for defeating armor I would honestly go G18C with JHP and keep it semi rn

[candid cedar]

so is this the final dlc?

[covert aurora]

No

[candid cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/464728263248576524/1394711876608458812/pepperspray_cat.gif

very nice, i want more levels!

[lost inlet]

.357 also have the same pen value as .45/9mm btw.

only 5.7 and .50 AE are viable against lvl 3 plates.

[eternal drum]

tiny damage or big heckoff damage

[coral yacht]

first time i ever heard that.. i woulda used the arn180 more if the stock aint that flimsy looking

wish the stock was beefier

[eternal drum]

there's like no muzzle rise on the 180 for some reason

[coral yacht]

i mean its a 300 blackout shouldnt have lots of recoil

[lost inlet]

it was the meta back then and still is.

[coral yacht]

whats the difference between it and other 300 blackouts like lvaw and ddm4pdw

[eternal drum]

true that would make sense

[lost inlet]

more stability and less recoil and you get to have recoil reduction from the suppressor.

[eternal drum]

its effectively levelled compared to the other 300s, viewmodel wise

[lost inlet]

larvae rifle doesn't have that so you only vertical and TH grip for vertical recoil reduction.

DDM beats ARN by having shorter length but you can negated that by stop hugging the wall and be more mindful with where you're standing.

[eternal drum]

"highmoderate" recoil description is absolutely false though. like even if its got a bigger camera kick, the more important factor is how much viewmodel rise it gets, bc that is what takes you off target (and then the shots slightly misalign to where the vm is aiming but we wont get into that)

[lost inlet]

main reason why the 416 is one of the worst rifle in the game.

[eternal drum]

absolutely

[drifting gorge]

Is ron a good game

[eternal drum]

buy it and see

[eternal drum]

50% off currently

[drifting gorge]

I bought it

[eternal drum]

one of us, one of us

[drifting gorge]

Is it good

[proven dagger]

Are there weapon caches in a new America and where are they?

[covert aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/one-of-us-we-accept-you-gif-11803454

[eternal drum]

yeah, i mean its not a run and gun ordeal. high intensity and high stakes. good worldbuilding and story if you ever want to sit back and take a sip listening to all the dialogue and lore per mission

[drifting gorge]

How do i slide

[covert aurora]

You dont

[eternal drum]

its not a slide and gun ordeal either

[covert aurora]

This isnt cod

[eternal drum]

think of a slightly more fluid SQUAD in terms of player controller design (factcheck pending)

just no running/sprinting

[proven dagger]

Anybody know where the weapon caches are on a new America

[ember sonnet]

Guys whats the differnce between 5.56 vs 300 blk in terms of damage and range

[eternal drum]

i didnt even know there were weapon caches in new america

there's one resupply point along one of the outside ends of the curved staircases at the top floor but thats it

[covert aurora]

Dont think there is any

[drifting gorge]

Is pepper spraying suspects that already surrendered bad

[proven dagger]

Oh I thought there was

[lost inlet]

.300 blk has more damage, armour penetration and terrain penetration.

[bitter mason]

There is none but there is a supper secret ammo crate by the stairs on the top floor to refill ammo and grenades ;)

[lost inlet]

damage falloff are so mininal, only time you'd notice is when you're trying to snipe with 9mm.

[covert aurora]

It also removes any wedges you have placed

[bitter mason]

Lmao really?
Thats funny

[covert aurora]

Mmhm

[bitter mason]

Wedges remain buggy but still peak

I had a suspect barge down a door the frame before it was wedged and then like 5 other guys came swarming to the door
It was messy...

[proven dagger]

Are there any special evidence on a new America, I swear I got all the weapons

[bitter mason]

I cant think of any

Missing a report?

[proven dagger]

Trailers are here so idk

[bitter mason]

I dont think there's any soft obj

[knotty moss]

Why is the SWAT AI have the survival Instinct of a deer in headlights

[proven dagger]

Probably evidence then

[drifting gorge]

Search and secure the area

[proven dagger]

Oh my god

Dumbass Prescott needs to secure a weapon but he can’t like the dumbass he is

Done now

[drifting gorge]

Spider is stupid mission

Thoughts

[bitter mason]

Because void are a bunch of silly billies that dont know what they're doing

[bitter mason]

One of my favourites
But like all missions in this game, could be better

[terse pike]

how elite is the swat team if they are able to take on the final mission in the latest dlc

i feel like it would normally be handed over to the military or something

[bitter mason]

Realistically a lot of the missions are far beyond a swat teams pay grade lol

[dim oak]

I mean the gas station would probably be for regular cops

[terse pike]

isn't there a lore explenation for that? is it cause judge is a super soldier or whatever

[dim oak]

going all the way to a protected US building

[bitter mason]

Would probably be fbi more than anything dealing with a new America

[dim oak]

judge is a super soldier
still can't jump

[bitter mason]

Yes it would be
I didn't say all missions
Just a lot of them

[dim oak]

I know the space bar is already occupied

[drifting gorge]

Hes not a super jumper

[bitter mason]

Eh jumping isn't needed in ron

[dim oak]

I guess that's Mario's job

[terse pike]

i don't think they would be able to vault/jump over things very well with all that equipment

[eternal drum]

i dont think ive run into any cases that require jumping. that being said, its never fun being caught on a static chair but can kick around commercial wash buckets

[terse pike]

the guns would probably ram into something

[dim oak]

I've heard the Five-seveN is a good pistol
is it? I just use it with the shield because I can spam it

[bitter mason]

Yeah its good

Got a nice sound to it
Pop gun

[eternal drum]

yeah. it can at least hit through armor

[knotty moss]

Has anyone had suspects not spawn or disappear in the map?

On the final mission I just spent half an hour searching the map for one last suspect but couldn't find him

[eternal drum]

ive had suspects phase through floors before, but never seen them leave the map.

Greased Palms often has suspects who like to run laps around the entire post office, so im sure port is the same deal

[knotty moss]

This is on the A New America mission

[drifting gorge]

Ides of march is good mission

[eternal drum]

oh oh, idk. if you have any other motion sensors untripped you might be able to lure them out

[timid night]

Hey, where can I report problems with achievements? Yesterday I managed to complete all the missions with an S grade, and it still says I'm missing a 7

[knotty moss]

That's the trouble I disarmed all of them 😂

The one thing that desperately needs fixing is the buggy swat ai getting stuck at doors then ripped apart by enemies and swat throwing grenades in your face instead of through the door

[eternal drum]

none were on "casual" difficulty, right?

[dim oak]

I was on Relapse for 15 minutes just looking for the final son of a gun

[timid night]

all on standard

[knotty moss]

I played on standard too but I suppose bugs are part of the game

[eternal drum]

200 patched, 200 more

[dim oak]

never found the critter

had to exfil because I needed to do something else

[timid night]

The worst thing is that I don't know what these missions are.

[eternal drum]

mission select should tell you what you havent done, but otherwise, it might be time to redo it all. hopefully its one of the first ones and not the larger ones lol

[timid night]

They're all supposedly rated S, but there are too many of them to have to replay them all over again

[eternal drum]

absolutely fair. might as well chuck it in #1050535723087958156 and show the list of them. idk if mods stop the achievement or clash with it or not either

[covert aurora]

Mods dont prevent achivements

[eternal drum]

thats good to know

[obsidian hornet]

Could someone explain what situations you'd rather use a 9banger in the game over a flashbang? Is it just a strict upgrade, or?

[eternal drum]

9banger is better duration and you can sort of do long throws detonating while its in its arc, flashbang is for radius

[wicked tulip]

Can i ask is the beanbag shotgun better than the pepperball rifle ? For S rank

[bitter mason]

Yes

Just dont headshot with it

[eternal drum]

beanbag is immediate stunning if you hit the right spot, pepperballs take a couple seconds before they kick in and even then, they have opportunities to run away, blindfire run, etc.

[bitter mason]

The primary flash grenade launcher is even better

[misty edge]

Its preferable I always take it

Easier to not waste the ammo too

[wicked tulip]

Ok thanks for the advice

[modest junco]

Question, is there a way to make it so SWAT doesnt automatically kill you even when you do something bad? Like a mod or something

[mortal geode]

wazzup

[mortal geode]

i though only secret command can make them kill you

[ebon iron]

They will kill you if they are close. That’s why people usually gets them to stay in one place. Then move away, kill someone, and then execute the command. In order to get the achievement

[eternal drum]

people were talking about the optiwand being low framerate and ive figured out why. its not low framerate, and i understand the shader/static is like weird so it looks low framerate, but the camera turning has a stuttery angle update, which makes it look terrible.

[rocky plover]

I've noticed it's either very stable or seems like it's capped sometimes, not consistent on all runs

Even though I have it uncapped set

[eternal drum]

same here, but turning the camera does not give a good indication of the fps.

[pseudo hull]

the open doors in ana are a nightmare

[rocky plover]

I have yet to test though putting the optiwand resolution higher than 100%

[eternal drum]

oh mine is set to 100%. i might make a bug report about it

[rocky plover]

Ye same mines always been 100% but I'm curious if it would make it ''clearer' if set higher

But then again I always forget to try it because Its been years from using the mirrorgun lol, and I just used it again for the first time for programmed psychosis - it was fucking required

[eternal drum]

agreed, not much leverage without safe visual angles

[dim oak]

Nvidia overlay shows a different frame rate than the game itself with frame gen on

[rocky plover]

Is it like half by any chance?

[dim oak]

it goes from like 80 to my refresh rate

of 144 Hz

[rocky plover]

Because with frame gen it's normal because there is real frames and generated frames

[floral peak]

How it’s goin metal

[eternal drum]

huh. wand cant fit under a magnetic door, but a wedge sure can

[rocky plover]

Hey man, not bad and how about yourself?

[floral peak]

Good, switched to beanbag for Hard S, seems to do the job

I now have more ammo and it feels better

[rocky plover]

Nice, Haven't had time to attempt it again

Yea ammo economy should be better, but are ya really finding it easier without the flash launcher?

[floral peak]

Well, I do still have nades, and I can send AI to flash em too

I don’t need to bring up that much ammo now

[rocky plover]

Yeah but the nades aren't as instantaneous as the launcher if you get what I mean

I was thinking of still giving the AI launcher and use the beanbag myself though idk yet

Or go full out launchers (with the AI shouldn't be a problem for ammo)

Problem is they just die very easily, so I might have to do it solo without them

And if I do I will have to go beanbag for sure due to ammo

Just like I had to do 3LT on hard S solo

But god I don't wanna have PTSD again 😂

[rocky plover]

It's also the last Hard S that I need FFS, or would could just try it again in multiplayer sometime

[floral peak]

Yeah, I would try in multiplayer too, hit me up if want to anytime soon

[rocky plover]

Maybe tomorrow earlier than rn though cos I'm leaving for work in half an hour or so

[floral peak]

I see, ok then

[sullen shell]

i'm attempting the sleeper agent achievement, but do i just need to report 15 incapacitated suspects or do i also need to handcuff them?

[glass heart]

you need to arrest/ kill all of them with no more than a 15 second gap between each one

[rocky plover]

As he said^ killing also works not just incaps and arrests

[sullen shell]

oh so i just need to restrain 15 dead/incapacited bodies with 15s between them?

[glass heart]

your ai does that automatically also i dont think that counts as actual arrest for some objectives/ achievements

[rocky plover]

Either arrest method, or kill method or a mix but that's hard so either do the arrest or the kill methods
As for timing it goes like this kill/arrest, 15s timer starts, kill/arrest, 15s timer starts again and so on... Not 15 kills in 15s

[glass heart]

the cheese strat is to secure all weapon caches except one and have your ai hold in an area

then you funnel them all to that area and go in for the mass arrest or execution if you didnt have swat ai with you

[sullen shell]

how do you funnel everyone into an area like say the lobby?

[glass heart]

you can command surrendered suspects to crawl to you

its very tedious, but if you fake arrest them they drop any weapons they may have so theyre mostly pacified

[floral peak]

fuckass civ ran into gas trap and died

[mortal geode]

womp womp

[drifting gorge]

Brat nie jest tuff

[mortal geode]

jestem tak tuff że kot zaczął gadać

[drifting gorge]

Zostało mi z bożego narodzenia

[mortal geode]

😆

why so players shoot my back when i have shield on my back? guys it hurts

[drifting gorge]

To check if its bulletproff

[surreal pelican]

Full out launcher. Use yours only when necessary

Ammo issue + stupid team AI is what made me halt ana hard s attempts. Falling sick again

[rocky plover]

AI dying personally so solo or MP it's gonna be

[rocky otter]

Hey guys!

since RON still doesnt have proper controls for the tactical devices

I made a small AHK script to control them in a more streamlined fashion

Mouse4 for hold tacticl device instead of toggle

and mouse5 for one click ADS, Canted and hold laser

[cerulean anvil]

youd think me wearing a polo shirt with flowers would prevent accidental team kills but nooo

[rocky otter]

like night vision ads button

if anyone wants to use it just lmk

it allows you to use tactical devices realistically without being super clunky like it normally is

[surreal pelican]

Wanna do hard s run on ana someday

[rocky otter]

The friendly AI is so bad

the game is so much fun with friends but for single player either a solo run or just firing range is what I do

[rocky plover]

Sure, @floral peak we're 3

[floral peak]

That’s nice

[surreal pelican]

If I'm free 😭 if not someone can take my spot

Coz I just fell ill

[rocky otter]

so basically you can do this now https://streamable.com/89lokr

[rocky plover]

Oh damn get well soon.. again..

Sure we'll find a time good for the 3 of us

@fossil radish go on the roster on the tablet and it roughly explains what they do (even though some are technically slightly incorrect)

[fossil radish]

Oh just hold tab...

[surreal pelican]

Thanks; I just recovered two weeks ago from cold/flu, only to get it back again

this is hell

[cedar mulch]

Eco-terrorism

[wide verge]

whats the most suspects you guys had in the bank vault? I had 4 just by the stairs and one in each room left and right. A miracle swat AI didnt shoot any civs

[rocky otter]

its not really terrorism tho, more of a peaceful political group

[wide verge]

peaceful?

[rocky otter]

I thought no enemies spawned in the vault?

[surreal pelican]

Yes they do

[rocky otter]

outside of the scripted guy with the phone in his mouth

[wide verge]

I mean downstairs, not the vault behind the big door

[surreal pelican]

Main vault area yes but inside no

[cedar mulch]

What the hell? UPF is a terrorist organisation. They’ve even attacked oil rigs.

[rocky otter]

oooh yeah

[surreal pelican]

All Gods Burn ost is 🔥

[rocky otter]

They did they really tho? Or was that the government fraiming them

[glass heart]

ive had 7 guys on the vault (playing with a 5 man stack)

[wide verge]

UPF are terrorists. They killed civilians and hung them on the oil rig

[glass heart]

we were able to kill all of them by doing limited penetration clearance from the stairs and pushing accross the threshold when most of them were down

[rocky otter]

Speaking of the vault, I wonder why they made such a complex easter egg just to give us a core part of the story

like why is it locked behind the vault door and behind random tasks

[wide verge]

One thing about the bank mission is that Id like more actual smaller rooms to clear. It's basically two massive shootouts

[surreal pelican]

To think that the employee who gave them intel + entry might be one of the workers they hung

[rocky otter]

yeah the upstairs guys seem to rush out to the balcony every time

the bank lobby PID is a nightmare and I love it

[wide verge]

yeah I like the PID aspect. Unique challenge for sure. I just keep throwing stingers

[rocky otter]

has anyone figured out who Judge sends stuff to on the laptop in the upstairs of the bank?

[surreal pelican]

All I want to get is my eyes it burns

[surreal pelican]

Probs TOC

[rocky otter]

if it would be TOC it would just be reported and left to evidence

instead it sends it somewhere offshore if u look at the screen

[surreal pelican]

Oh

My guess would be:

1. Sent to his own personal 💻 (coz his apartment)
2. Accidental "press to send"?

[cedar mulch]

What sort of slander is this? In the trailer for DLC 2, they hanged all the workers. And you can see it in the game as well.

[wide verge]

Swat Ai guys have voice lines saying something like "whatever these guys were trying to do here you just helped them achieve it"

[rocky otter]

what if the workers were the terrorists

and they were helping the cops

[cedar mulch]

?

[wide verge]

I don't go that deep with lore

[rocky otter]

Im not being serious incase u couldnt tell

[surreal pelican]

Nah they stole their uniform. False flag operations just like what Los Navegantes did with the LSPD uni

[rocky otter]

Im kinda annoyed the new update removed like half of the police station

its not like it really matters but I liked hanging around the station waiting for my friends to kit up

[surreal pelican]

Where's my punching bag in the station

[rocky plover]

7 or 8 smth like that on hard

[rocky otter]

ikr and the boat room and all the other stuff

[wide verge]

thats rough

[surreal pelican]

Main takeaway from Programmed Psychosis:

Flashlight bait is another way of checking for enemies the safe way aside from AI PIE and Mirrorgun 😂

[rocky plover]

Damn