👮ron-discussion

[granite elk]

Also does anyone else really want a serial killer map like the Fairfax house

[wanton orchid]

That would be cool yes

[elder coyote]

If you enter a room where you deployed gas, without a gas mask

Will it affect you?

[trim wing]

yes

it'll mainly just make your vision a bit red I think and maybe slowly wiggle the camera around

[granite elk]

Glad someone agrees that would be a dream map

Some crazy house of horrors stuff

[subtle river]

what's the fairfax house?

[subtle river]

hey guys, I have an interesting question
how "realistic" is the tactical camera?

I often refrain from using it because I feel that it's not possible to just see under the door like that, am I right?

[marble oyster]

its real

[stuck mirage]

Wdym?

The tool?

Or the headcam

[subtle river]

so every door can be looked through under it?

[subtle river]

yep, large tactical

[stuck mirage]

Like 99% of doors have gaps in them yes

[marble oyster]

unless the door is sealable but then the door would scrape on the floor

[stuck mirage]

Go look at one of the doors in your house rn lol

[marble oyster]

the tactical pole cameras can get thin

[stuck mirage]

If they can make cameras for your heart they can make cameras for a door gap lol

[marble oyster]

^

[subtle river]

I think so

[stuck mirage]

Im not trying to shame you if it comes off that way its just a little silly that you basically asked if cameras were real

[marble oyster]

been having a lot of fun doing beat cop challenge and wish there were maps that had that feel to it. granted it'd be less swaty in that direction but still

[stuck mirage]

^
This game made me wish there was a like

Patrol version of the game

[marble oyster]

yeahhhhh

[stuck mirage]

But with the same level of detail and care

[marble oyster]

exactttly

[elder coyote]

I got every single objective in rust belt

I still got a B, what

[marble oyster]

like a mall breaking and entering mission or something

[stuck mirage]

Try nonlethal, doesnt that net better score?

[elder coyote]

Does time get in factor?

Cuz it took me 18 minutes

I got every single objective, but i got a B

[marble oyster]

im pretty sure the mission briefing says to try not to kill them

because you need suspects to interrogate

so im guessing you killed too many of them

[subtle river]

what challenge?

[elder coyote]

Ah

Alr

Can i incap?

[marble oyster]

you pretty much only have a stab vest, no long tactical besides the camera, and no grenades or gas and things like that, just pepper spray and tazer

then whatever gun you want but realistically an mk18 or shotgun

your gear is what a normal patrol officer would have, no fancy swat stuff

makes it more realistic and interesting to play on missions where a cop realistically could just be close by and have to go help

like elephant, gas station, or the mexican restraunt one

[subtle river]

I've done the Ends of the Earth (is this the name) this way

[trim wing]

Is it a 90s patrol officer? Why would a modern one not use a plate carrier

[marble oyster]

the loooks mainly

the majority of the plate carriers aren't realistic to what a patrol officer would wear

the most realistic one is the stab vest funnily enough

look in screenshots, that is what i have for my patrol officer loadout

oh weird i cant post

[trim wing]

After looking it up I think it depends on area, some have actual plate carriers, some just have soft armor vests, some have soft armor vests with plate inserts, and from what I can see for lapd patrol officers, they aren't wearing anything besides their shirts in the photos I'm looking at

[marble oyster]

the patrol officer loadout i pasted in screenshots is based off of pretty modern cop loadout

i was able to post it

[trim wing]

That does look like a 90s build

Oh

[stuck mirage]

The low vis vest is by far my favorite

The dark waters tp-1e is also nice

[marble oyster]

thinking about it more

a patrol officer DLC would be cool or game mode whatever it'd be

smaller more self contained maps and missions

like a public park or a walmart

[stuck mirage]

Lmao imagine a security DLC where you have to play as the security guards leading up to the arrival as SWAT

True horror experience

[flat sparrow]

just a pistol with like 3 mags

just a standard issue glock with a comp and a flashlight

[stuck mirage]

If even

You might get a stun gun if your lucky

[flat sparrow]

no

[stuck mirage]

Most of the regular security doesn't even have that

[elder coyote]

Wtf is wrong with sins of the father

[subtle river]

there is an emergency system on the yacht level

what does it do?

I can turn it on and off

[jolly verge]

Lets you know when suspects start executing civilians

[cedar mulch]

You play as a patrol officer tasked with apprehending suspects in Narcos. You'll be dead.

[subtle river]

so if I turn it off in a white room on the engineering deck, I won't know this?

[jolly verge]

TOC will let you know as well, so it's does really matter if you off/on it

[subtle river]

how does it work, will the execution be announced by intercom of the yacht or what?

[cedar mulch]

The patrol officers in Narcos hesitated to enter the premises because they knew it was a trap.

[subtle river]

what's narcos?

[jolly verge]

Like I said, TOC will tell ya

[subtle river]

bruh you said as well
TOC isn't on the yacht

[jolly verge]

[cedar mulch]

The second map in DLC1

[gentle void]

How tf yall even pass hospital on hard

[lost inlet]

use mods.

[cedar mulch]

After the mlo story were altered, it's nowhere near as good as it used to be. Their level of wickedness might not even match that of spiders.

mlo has been modified by void into a background panel and an Easter egg.

[round skiff]

Just passsed it with a buddy in duo yesterday. It took us 30 minutes.
Theyre pretty poorly equipped so thats a bonus.

Id say our strategy was always to remain out of large spaces as much as possible and lure suspects to more closed off quarters where we can have more control.

[gentle void]

Im running with bots. The bots are hella stupid sometimes they dont breach, sometimes they get in the room instead of covering causing suspects to shoot at me

Sometimes they start running into opposite direction like goddamn

[prime chasm]

people r js cracked like that 😭

[valid raven]

Fun fact tear gas is actually not a gas but a very fine powder

[subtle river]

how can I get killed by a civilian?

[covert aurora]

Wife on valley

[subtle river]

she grabs smth?

[covert aurora]

She punches you to death

[subtle river]

bruh

[covert aurora]

🤷‍♂️

[surreal pelican]

Main entrance brotha

From there on, use the M32A1 flash launcher, have one teammate AI use the shield and give them heavy steel vest with ballistic face mask

I ran with 2x Pacifiers and 1x Armourer and Negotiator

[gritty nova]

What? The misssion with a manor?

Not a manor actually

[elder coyote]

Its a hotel

I beat it already, i spammed flash nades using the launchers

[gritty nova]

Yeah I know but a mansion-like hotel

[gritty nova]

You tried S ranking?

[elder coyote]

More of a penthouse but sure

[elder coyote]

Nope

I killed every stunned suspect

I need atleast an A on each mission

[gritty nova]

What was the problem?

[gritty nova]

Why??

You need c+ for achievements

[elder coyote]

Cuz it ticks me off

If its below A

[elder coyote]

The guards kept roaming around and ambushes me

[twilit nimbus]

you tried shooting back

?

oh my bad, CS gas all the way

• shi load of pep ammo with a teammate

[wind gyro]

cs gas is ASS

just use the launchers

or flashbangs

[twilit nimbus]

Did you AT LEAST, wait for it to get the entire room

[wind gyro]

yeah but why use cs gas when flashbangs are op

[jolly verge]

It's does not fill the entire room, only 4.5 meters and 3m if it's 40mm

Cs gas is just useless atm

[twilit nimbus]

Is the math right

[quasi coral]

This can also happen with the crackheads in Twisted!

[jolly verge]

https://youtu.be/jvIyzmJoaZs?si=_lwxyP6TOO1oM7DO

[twilit nimbus]

❤️

[fiery narwhal]

why are ai so op now

[twilit nimbus]

We are not loved anymore

[keen tartan]

For context, I am doing ironman standard, trying to get the watch. I am running 2 negotiators 1 nutritionist and one armorer. Is it worth it to run shields with pistol ammo for red squad and launchers (flash) for blue, shields for all with pistol ammo, or should I just completely forget the shields altogether and go with beanbag shotguns?

[fiery narwhal]

ai just casually shoot at me through the wall

[keen tartan]

they tank 4 buckshots to the face and die of the blood loss not the thousands of pellets now in thier face

[twilit nimbus]

My bad, we can uh... we can shoot back

[fiery narwhal]

I would love to know how

[rocky plover]

if you're doing it just for the watch you can do it on casual btw but if you want achievements do it on standard, also are you trying to S rank or just pass ironman mode?

[jolly verge]

You don't need any of that, just go for the 7.62x51 with JHP

[keen tartan]

pass and achivevements

[keen tartan]

uh stress?

[jolly verge]

You already have 2 negotiators so less-lethal gun is unnecessary

[rocky plover]

then just give them 7.62 as Aspid said

no need to go with less lethal if you just wanna pass ironman

[rocky plover]

i just killed everyone and didnt even use negotiators and still didnt have problems with stress, now you have negotiator so you'll get some free arrests

[keen tartan]

did u swap constantly?

[rocky plover]

swapped a bit but not a lot, i mostly ran 1 nutritionist 1 armorer 2 veterans, and had some other backups with same traits

[keen tartan]

what do you suggest about the shields and stuff?

[rocky plover]

personally they are hit or miss with it

so just give them 7.62x51 with 1 mag and Mk-v with 1 mag and the rest on other stuff such as c2, wedges, etc......

[keen tartan]

interesting, how so?

[keen tartan]

20 shots?

[rocky plover]

they either barely use it, or when they do half the time they run out and have to reload or switch back to primary

they dont run out (they reload but dont run out of ammo)

[keen tartan]

so that's why no one equips shields for their ai, I feel like they usually just use them for clearing rooms

[rocky plover]

they do but they are stronger with a stronger weapon if you get what i mean

[keen tartan]

yeah I understand, and 20 rounds to a mission is crazy

[rocky plover]

they have infinite ammo as long as you give them at least 1 mag

[jolly verge]

[keen tartan]

...... wait what?

you've gotta be kidding me

[rocky plover]

yes you read that correctly xD

[keen tartan]

you've gotta be kidding me

just found the thing on reddit.....

[rocky plover]

Yo Aspid, since you said give them 7.62 JHP, are they still effective with it on the other 3 maps with L4? do they still kill well with blunt force or they need to have AP instead?

as I just wanna have just 1 loadout for them and avoid having to switch for them

even though i barely play with Ai to begin with lol

[jolly verge]

It's better to swap for AP on Elephant and Sins but 7.62x51 stagger with 100% chance on armor hit anyway

[rocky plover]

I see, cos i was thinking for 7.62 jhp, .50AE AP, 2 c2, 2 wedges, the rest on bangs/stingers as a loadout for AI

as 1 general build for all AI basically

[cedar mulch]

Why would the 213 gang arrest police officers? Aren't they afraid of retaliation?

[keen tartan]

Anyways, thanks for all the help.

[gentle void]

cs gas became ass

[keen tartan]

yeah

[rocky plover]

👍

[gentle void]

they sending goddamn terminators on hard mode

and my npc team is slow

[rocky plover]

yea cs gas, and especially pepper guns are unusable on hard mode

better off with beanbag or even better m32a1

[keen tartan]

beanbag is sooo good

[gentle void]

just shotgun and rip their hands off

[rocky plover]

ye i like it

[gentle void]

i like suspects laying down without hands

[rocky plover]

or that yeah if you not playing less lethal lol

[keen tartan]

i prefer not being able t o id the body

[gentle void]

i aint S ranking hard mode ill go insane

[rocky plover]

i had to do it for the sake of replayability lol, and ye i went a lil insane on 3 letter triad especially lol

[thorn egret]

My PB time on Valley of The Dolls is 3 minutes 50 seconds
What the hell was I smoking that day, I spent like 15-20 minutes trying to find the last civilians just now and I ended up spraying one of them with my MP7 so I could end the mission

[gentle void]

Jawn sometimes when im playing solo the guns get packed up themselves

[chilly thorn]

I recommend all of you to try S ranking without less lethal primaries

fun asf

[nova citrus]

I'm not entirely sure where to ask this. I am unable to add ANY weaponry mods to my RoN whatsoever, no matter which mod I use, no matter the site, or additional mods. I have theorized it's because I got it on Epic Games and not Steam, but I'm not entirely 100% sure of it, and I'm looking for a more concrete answer.

[gentle void]

I cant even mod cuz i play on cloud 💀

[wind gyro]

eos and steam are the same tbh

[nova citrus]

So, is there any reason the weapons aren't adding? Unless I'm doing something wrong with the installation process, which is dragging the .Pak files from the mod into the Paks section of the ready or not files, if I'm not mistaken, I have no clue.

[keen tartan]

For the watch does the mission need to be a C or higher?

[rocky plover]

only for the achievement I think and just the last mission

[wind gyro]

i dont even know wht mod you are trying to install

[nova citrus]

Ive tried a multitude of them but in specific its this one

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/7080

[cursive minnow]

Did you install the requirements for it as well? also I recommend taking this to #🔧modding-chat and if you could post a screenshot of your paks folder in there that would be great.

[wind gyro]

cast

[cursive minnow]

[royal scarab]

i would love too have a negotiation voiceline and more Lines too interact with Suspects to dont need lethal weapons (for a Lethal weapons run)

[harsh glacier]

Wish we had more variety in our arsenal 😔

[normal token]

Has anyone got the "Toxic Fumes" achievement/trophy? I'm doing what the description says, but I'm not getting it... I have to complete the mission "Nervous-Torturous Mission" with only the VPL-25, CS gas, and gas mask, but no matter how I try to finish it successfully, I'm not getting the trophy. Is there another condition, like with the revolver one, that isn't mentioned?

[royal scarab]

did u use the CS gas?

[normal token]

Yes

[royal scarab]

did u change the Team AI also with this loudout?

[normal token]

Yes

[royal scarab]

did u use NVG?

[normal token]

NVG?

[royal scarab]

night vision goggles

[normal token]

Initially yes, but not afterwards.

[royal scarab]

remove the NVG from u and ur Teammates

[normal token]

I already have

[royal scarab]

and u not allowed to use anything other then CS Gas VPL and Gas Mask
so no C2 or smth (i think)

[royal scarab]

that i found on reddit
-VPL (attachments are OK)

-NO grenades or other equipment

-NO nvgs

-Whichever sidearm, but with NO ammo (do not switch to it on mission to be sure)

-Long tactical of your choice (don’t use it!)

-Gas mask

-Helmet and armor is fine

[rocky plover]

no shield on swat AI either

[normal token]

I did everything but nothing happened...or am I not allowed to give the AI commands?

[royal scarab]

it should be fine

dont use lock picks

[rocky plover]

the contrary, it's better to give them commands for everything

rather than doing stuff yourself

[normal token]

Ok

[keen tartan]

Is is possible for civs to not spawn or to glitch out?

I've been playing valley of the dolls for about 1:00 now cause I can't find one civ. I systematically cleared the entire area with no luck

nvm

found the last civ by the fucking entrance

[plain gale]

Did you guys hear about the vr mod?

[cursive minnow]

Yea the devs made annoucement about it awhile ago before it released: #announcements message you can find a link to their Discord there as well.

[plain gale]

Oh ok, im gonna check it in a moment

[distant rose]

lowk, how do i stop my ai squad from annihilating the guy who i'm meant to arrest

[versed olive]

Hi

[trim wing]

Give them beanbag shotguns

[granite elk]

The Fairfax house is a map from swat four where you raid this little house in the Subarus and in the basement a killer lives there and he has rats in cages and another room with someone he kidnapped and is planning to kill

One of the best maps imo

[granite elk]

Hopefully they do something with them

[onyx dome]

I finished hide and seek so FISA was good guys but they felt in corruption ? Bcuz later u can see the room where they sell them and if u listen to the thing u hear a girl got sold for 23k ( Ik a Human life can't have a price ) but its a lot of money

[marble oyster]

is there a roadmap for the planned content for RoN in 2026?

[covert aurora]

No, void doesnt do roadmaps

[trim wing]

it's just a road with no landmarks

[covert aurora]

But you can generally figure out their big update pattern, whicch is uaually 6-8months or so

[trim wing]

how many months has it been since the last big update

[covert aurora]

Lets see...

Console release was... July

[marble oyster]

6 months

[trim wing]

is it joever if we hit april

[covert aurora]

If it hits April it means something went wrong or something needed prio fixing

[marble oyster]

gotcha

also, what are the current possible traits for officers?

[covert aurora]

For commander mode, Paramedic, negotiator,pacifier,armorer,Nutritionist,veteran,moral officer, s.b.a.g.s,breacher,kicker,intimidator,riot control

[marble oyster]

thx

[covert aurora]

Np!

[quasi coral]

By the time the update comes out, the USIA might've already gotten to me

[narrow valve]

is there a sugestions channel

[quasi coral]

#1050529506022137876 #📩feedback-reports-channel

[quasi coral]

Make sure to follow the format!

[dark patrol]

anyone had luck modding RoN on linux? I click the mods tab and the game freezes

[chilly thorn]

they do

there was one after 1.0 that went up to dark waters release

I bet we will get another soon honestly.

but you can't say "Void doesnt do roadmaps" when they literally have.

we've only gone one update that was without a roadmap.

[covert aurora]

May have missed that one. Just something tells that were not gonna get any post DW.

[chilly thorn]

I mean they ain't just gonna leave the game

[covert aurora]

I know, i think if they were planning a roadmap it would be out by now

[chilly thorn]

I feel like it may be cause of the constant backlash every time they seem to post anything about development

like they posted the new attachment system and they literally only got backlash for it like they aren't doing enough

... Its not even a big dev team T~T

[covert aurora]

And i agree with you

[chilly thorn]

Although I have gripes with the game and its REALLY buggy rn

I still gotta respect how good these guys did for their first game as noobies

[covert aurora]

For sure!

[chilly thorn]

(the swat ai better be fixed though or im bombing ireland)

[chilly thorn]

but yeah I feel like the lack of reveals for new stuff is because they are planning something big to try and win over angry fans I guess

[covert aurora]

Maybe

[chilly thorn]

a little post saying "we're still alive dw" would be nice though lol

[covert aurora]

Lol

The person who normally did that isnt here anymore

[lost inlet]

No one has stepped up to that role yet?

[covert aurora]

Last i seen, they had an opening for cm on their site but that job offer is gone, sooooo idk....

[hollow jolt]

Not agaaaaaiiiiin

[stable kernel]

No, it would not be funny

[chilly thorn]

the mlo is listening

[lost inlet]

[covert aurora]

They watch, they wait, from the shadows

[river ibex]

lads, am I the only one to run BDRTAC gear?

Ive never actually seen anyone else run it, lol

[trim wing]

Giant bugfix update :D?

one can only dream

[civic idol]

Hope to see a new update soon

[lost inlet]

I used to run it with the tan police mod of it.

It would be more popular if it has more variants in game.

Mods works fast today.

[covert aurora]

:)

[limpid marsh]

I just had ron for 1 day alr the best game I played

[lost inlet]

The burnt out spares no one.

[limpid marsh]

What burnt out

[lost inlet]

soon...

[trim wing]

it's bro's first game

[soft thunder]

Can't blame you it's widely considered the best tact shooter on the market rn

[lost inlet]

[soft thunder]

Gameplay wise*

Combat wise*

everything else I would send you over to Arma or Ground Branch

[lost inlet]

[soft thunder]

Alright alright, what's a better tac shooter in terms of combat?

[lost inlet]

none, they're all dogshit.

[soft thunder]

😭 Not even a bit of leeway

[lost inlet]

that's how it is for ultra realistic game.

[warped crest]

did you guys know this?

[covert aurora]

no way!?

[flat sparrow]

Nawhh

[warped crest]

i cant wait

[flat sparrow]

What’s the date today

[warped crest]

uhhhhhhhhhhh

no hablo espanol

[flat sparrow]

Disappointed

[marble oyster]

USIA, FISA or D-Platoon

Pick one for DLC mission

[covert aurora]

yes

[stuck reef]

I was playing with a guy once and he was playing without a helmet. I asked him why he was playing without a helmet? He replied that a helmet was useless. LOL. What?

[marble oyster]

it kinda is

[jolly verge]

[marble oyster]

certain missions where everyone has higher caliber weapons means head trauma regardless

im curious if you get a speed debuff with a helmet on

[jolly verge]

Standart helmet block at least 1 shot from any rifle, ballistic mask - 2 shots, not to mention ricochet chance

[jolly verge]

No

The only thing that affect your speed is shield in the hands and legs injury

[marble oyster]

nevermind im a chud

[quasi coral]

Always had the FISA fit, it shall be FISA

[chilly thorn]

I meannnn

It’s sorta jut

Just* extra junk and if your not getting shot at anyway

Why not not use it

Only problem is missing out on nvgs

[tacit gull]

nvgs are ugly so good

[covert moss]

finally s ranked everything on hard

[waxen grove]

have we had any updates yet?

[tacit gull]

no

[surreal pelican]

FISA LB?

[surreal pelican]

Greased Palms claims all eventually..

[covert moss]

Bro screw greased palms

That map isn't that hard

Relapse is a whole different story

[lost inlet]

luckily i was there when greased palm was considered one of the easy map.

[surreal pelican]

Can confirm, Hard S ranked all of them

[covert moss]

Spent like 30 attempts tryna do relapse only for us to give up and redo the game from the beginning

[gentle void]

I aint even trying hard on greased

[surreal pelican]

Take main entrance

Thank me later

[covert moss]

Did both

[gentle void]

U wanna do it rn

[covert moss]

Can't

[gentle void]

k

[covert moss]

The main problem is the second floor where the main suspect resides

Always annoying to go through

[gentle void]

imo should have a frag

Cuz theres no civs on 2nd floor?

[covert moss]

Civ or not you have to save them for an S rank

[covert moss]

There is

[gentle void]

i aint s ranking that crap 🫩

[surreal pelican]

Or minimum B

[covert moss]

Fair

[gentle void]

Its mainly hostiles on 2nd floor big hallway

[covert moss]

The last mission was underwhelming

S ranked it on my first try

[gentle void]

who else thinks ron should have free bots like clearing the area without commands

[covert moss]

The map felt like it was designed for a pvp shooter

[covert moss]

They already do that shit and they get their asses blasted

[gentle void]

the bots are mainly degenerated

[covert moss]

I'd like for a functionality to have them sweep every room separately when all suspects are arrested or dead

I spent like 40 minutes doing the last one just because i had no idea that i had to close the container with the women

[gentle void]

💀

[surreal pelican]

My favourite map is

Probs Neon Tomb and Greased Palms

[gentle void]

ragebait final boss

[surreal pelican]

Relapse is cool

[surreal pelican]

My most played mission is Greased

[gentle void]

greased is so ass

[surreal pelican]

Gotta utilise the suspect hesitation

They tend to hesitate if they aren't at the stress threshold

[covert moss]

Greased is just annoying

[surreal pelican]

So when clearing the first two buildings before warehouse, try not to stress them out with teammates shouting and whatnot

[surreal pelican]

Especially when that blondie takes hostages

[covert moss]

My most disliked map is the feminist one

It gets difficult to see sometimes in the outer areas with all the bushes and shit

[surreal pelican]

Agreed brotha

Narcos is fun and cool but the sunray 😭

It blinds me for that one specific house area

[covert moss]

I still haven't tried the dlc maps yet

[surreal pelican]

Home invasion was nice especially narcos

[covert moss]

Combine that with the busted vegetation its annoying

[surreal pelican]

Dark waters was also another nice addition but one of the most annoying maps on Dark Waters for me is Mirage at Sea, Elephant 2.0

[covert moss]

I played the oil rig map,its alright

[surreal pelican]

Retaking Site 7

Oil rig is fun but then annoying if you're trying to find the last camping suspect

[quasi coral]

Of course my guy

[surreal pelican]

I got new drip to show, making use of the Ranger OD helmet this time

[covert moss]

I would probably have 0 complaints with any map if it wasn't for that

[surreal pelican]

Wait nvm I don't have it on my phone rn 😭

[covert moss]

Shit's annoying

[surreal pelican]

Yea

[covert moss]

They should add like a highlighter for soft objectives when all suspects are down

Could be seen from anywhere

Or maybe an AI with a trait that allows us to do that

[surreal pelican]

Yuh

[quasi coral]

Gimme a show

[surreal pelican]

Feel free to steal

(like actually, idm)

[quasi coral]

I refuse to use full black for the belief of black making your outline way more noticeable

[surreal pelican]

o yea

Well LEs I don't think that matters for them

[drifting prawn]

took an extra fifteen minutes running around for civvies man

[surreal pelican]

I took 20 I think

[drifting prawn]

i felt so bad cuz my mate died on the last suspect but i was so determined to find the last few civvies

[covert moss]

Should've restarted instead of torturing him with walking back and forth

[drifting prawn]

he was simoultaneously sending me jjk edits to watch so i think he managed to cope tho

[quasi coral]

It absolutely doesn't, at all

But it's more like my real life standards

[surreal pelican]

Ohhh

Icic

[fiery narwhal]

chat what is the best grip for mk17

[lost inlet]

vertical.

[jolly verge]

Vertical or TH, these are the only grips that do work

[lost inlet]

and the Hera grip too.

the rest just doesn't do anything effectively enough.

[round skiff]

Depends on what you're doin

[fiery narwhal]

like single shots

[round skiff]

I think most of them will do, but depends if you want greater recoil reduction or faster ADS.

For me as example faster ADS in this game is pointless, because you should pre-aim around any entry or corner you can.
Going into entry with holstered weapon is saying im a easy target lol

Combat grip is the most balanced as far as i know

Angled grip according to the gamefiles provides most ADS speed
and the vertical grip reduces vertical recoil the most

[round skiff]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?gid=700315143#gid=700315143

Here is a spreadsheet if you want detailed study

Oh man this is ancient lmao

[jolly verge]

ADS speed on grips is useless even after fix, it's only like 100ms difference and combat grip does literally nothing on rifles

[fiery narwhal]

does this still apply to current version?

[jolly verge]

It's updated

[round skiff]

Angled grip apparently does -35% ADS time

says console update, id assume it is

[fiery narwhal]

heavy armor slows u down significantly?

[jolly verge]

Armor does not affect your movement speed

[jolly verge]

Very useful

[round skiff]

it doesnt reduce your full speed but it does reduce your acceleration

[jolly verge]

Plates, not armor type

And it's irrelevant unless you wear all 3 steel plates

[round skiff]

its so marginal lol, but in my case it wouldnt matter at all cause i dont take my eyes off aims until the room is secure

[round skiff]

yeah seems like the steel being the heaviest culprit

[jolly verge]

Been broken for 21 months btw

[round skiff]

ah yes classic AAA motion of devs towards adding more content and not fixing the game where its supposed to be
Yikes xD

[tacit gull]

don't worry, they'll get em next time

[coarse osprey]

[stray kettle]

who wants to help me with greased palms

[cedar mulch]

Narcos is the most intense map in DLC1.

[surreal pelican]

Agreed

Mfs there are the true embodiment of daemons made manifest

No remorse no regrets no nothing. Even the dog got killed for none

[fiery narwhal]

why is there no vertical grip that gives u accuracy/ads speed : (

[jolly verge]

Because these two stats do literally nothing?

[tacit gull]

If only that was the biggest issue

[inner nova]

How the hell do enemies with no armour tank 12 gauge in the chest

And 10 rounds of 7.62 too

[worldly root]

meth is a beautiful thing man

[jolly verge]

Armor or missing

[inner nova]

Feel like everyone is on drug

[jolly verge]

Just missing

[inner nova]

Nah i didn't (well sometimes yes

[worldly root]

yeah normally i kill someone (let alone incap) with 2 7.62s to the chest

[inner nova]

But I'm sure 12 gauge at point blank should do the job

[worldly root]

what type of round is it? slug or buck

[inner nova]

Slug i think

[worldly root]

i think buck would be better especially with no body armor

cause wider spread on unarmored folk

[jolly verge]

On what map

[inner nova]

I'm considering using jhp now

[worldly root]

idk too much about shotgun ammo but i would use buck on unarmored people

and same with jhp for unarmored

[inner nova]

Shotgun is so fun ngl

[worldly root]

it is

probably the only guns my friends and i used back when they had that massive update before 1.0 with the addition of the hospital and everything

[inner nova]

I chose mp5 at the beginning and immediately regretted

Pretty much any sub

[worldly root]

honestly cant tell you my go to gun just cause of how much ive been doing nonlethal

[round skiff]

Somehow my suspects loose a leg or arm during use of shotguns. Must be a coincidence

[inner nova]

Struggling on normal now let's not talk about it

[inner nova]

They do when I specifically aim there

[worldly root]

dont gotta worry about packing too many zipties now

budgeting 101: blow off the suspects hands

[inner nova]

So that's why I can't cuff them sometimes?

[worldly root]

yeah i think if you shoot them in the head or shoot one of their limbs off you cant cuff them

[inner nova]

No hands

[worldly root]

(with shotguns)

[dawn solstice]

I use the roni alot

[worldly root]

idk why you cant cuff them after they take a headshot with a shotgun but idk

[inner nova]

It is what it is

It's sad to see 4 of my crew getting one tapped

[dawn solstice]

Also anyone know like how breaching shotgun should be used I never really find use as lockpicks quieter

[inner nova]

More satisfying

And quicker

Idrk

[worldly root]

breach and kick for effective coolness

[round skiff]

breaching shotguns are a dynamic entry, quite quick, demoralize and stun anyone on the opposite.
its more of an emergency tool when you quickly need to breach

[worldly root]

(i always breach a door with the shotgun if my friend is peeking it with a mirror gun)

[round skiff]

Breaching shotguns are generally used to minimize collateral damage. Its a less occlusive tool contrary to C2

[worldly root]

also how many shots does it take to kill with a breach shotgun?

i know 1 shot to the head incaps

[round skiff]

Also breaching shotgun has special rounds that effectivelly just delete anything door related. Theyre called frangible rounds.

Shouldnt be effective on anything above 1 meter i think

[jolly verge]

Civilians only

[dawn solstice]

Ah I usually just play with one person so we tend to prefer quiet so guess that's where I'm using it wrong probably better with more people

[wispy yoke]

I would love to see a flashing mode on flashlights

[jolly verge]

Depends on map and difficulty, but on standart without extra health you need 4 body shots to incap and another 3 to kill

[worldly root]

holy

[dawn solstice]

They tend to run the flash grenade launcher then I swap between mirror gun and cs gas launcher nowadays as I've slowly relised we only use the breach shotgun like once a mission

[worldly root]

if u wanna stay quiet but breach locked doors quicker, use 1 slot for lockpick gun

[dawn solstice]

Huh is that a 1 per door thing or?

[worldly root]

i dont think so

ive never used it but i do know its like at least twice as fast as the regular lockpick

[round skiff]

Lmao its uh .pretty loud xD

i also play with one buddy ususally. Coordinating whole team can be messy if they're not competent

[dawn solstice]

We aren't like the most competent duo but if where communicating well enough we tend to get through fine

Some missions with more enemies are a lil more difficult I've just slowly been trying to find a loaddout that suits my play style

[worldly root]

yeah somehow my friend and i did relapse with just the two of us and completed it on our second go

we just stuck together and weeded enemies out

[dawn solstice]

Tend to just like sitting back a little prefer not to be at point but can never find a rifle that balances force with not just killing everyone

[round skiff]

Same here, we got minced at first, but it also took us over 30 minutes, i think we did it in 42 minutes
But we also play RoN like metal gear. Just way too slow lmao

[worldly root]

i forget how long it took us, but the longest thing was fighting to get to the bomb in the children's wing and finding the last civ

[dawn solstice]

Where yet to beat relapse

[limpid marsh]

How do I beat the idles of march mission

[dawn solstice]

It's so goddam difficult when you hit the third floor skybridge

[worldly root]

we did that and carriers of the vine as a duo and it all went almost perfect (i died at the end of relapse, he died at the end of carriers)

[worldly root]

i normally clear the middle room first then make my way to the surrounding hotel rooms

[dawn solstice]

From what I know of idles of March is wedges are your friend

[worldly root]

yeah

i just wedge off the main room after i cleared it

[limpid marsh]

Ik that’s what I did but still doesn’t allow me to finish mission

[dawn solstice]

You found the sniper in the rooms

[limpid marsh]

Yeah

It was on the table in the room that said f cops and all the signs

[dawn solstice]

Id just check your pad see what's left

[jolly verge]

Just open your tablet and see what you need to do

[limpid marsh]

Ik I did

[jolly verge]

So?

[limpid marsh]

It won’t let me finish

[round skiff]

best tool. You can narrow down an area you can control. Open spaces with multiple exit points for suspects is the worst thing you can have to deal with lol

[worldly root]

i had my AI breach rooms and i controlled the hallways until they breached in

[jolly verge]

Wdym, do you have all objectives completed on your tablet?

[limpid marsh]

I cleared every room nobody left except civilians

[wind gyro]

is this ready or not lore or am i tweaking

[normal venture]

I hate how the Background music mixing got fucked up after the latest update. You will never enter the combat theme in ides of march for example

[dawn solstice]

Turns out lockpick gun is infact reusable

[wind gyro]

ready or not refrence

[wind gyro]

why wouldnt it be

pretty useless if it has 1 use and takes up 1 slot

[dawn solstice]

idk some of the stuff is so thats why just shocked

[tacit gull]

Its been like that since 1.0 i think, the new update just added new segments to it

[subtle river]

can I somehow change troops in my squad in fast game?

[wind gyro]

do you mean quick play

[subtle river]

yep

[wind gyro]

no

[subtle river]

lang barrier

[wind gyro]

they dont have traits and stress

[subtle river]

can I somehow make my men use only pistols?

I have the unequip weapons mod but idk how it'll work

maybe I should lower ammo to zero?

[wind gyro]

no

[subtle river]

🙁

[inner nova]

What about giving them no pistol mag

I think u can modify it no?

[wind gyro]

you can

[inner nova]

So it's basically forcing them do pistol only

[wind gyro]

idk

[inner nova]

[subtle river]

fahhhh not working

[subtle river]

how to

[inner nova]

My method not working?

Or u mean how to set it up

[inner nova]

U tried it?

[subtle river]

yep

set primary ammo to zero, still nothing

[inner nova]

Then idk

[subtle river]

🥀

[inner nova]

What do they shoot with

[subtle river]

let's see

[inner nova]

It's like maybe they'll switch to pistol once engaging

But back to rifle when it's clear

[subtle river]

ok

[inner nova]

Just test

[subtle river]

yea it works like that

[inner nova]

Congrats on pistol run I guess lol

But on hard difficulty i would not recommend

[subtle river]

obv

[inner nova]

Getting one tapped just like me

What makes this game scary is the fact that npc teammates aren't immortal

"We're in this deep shit together"

[subtle river]

would've been stupid if they were

[inner nova]

Just another cod game if it's like it

Letting your teammates do all the work

Feeling the stress is what makes ready or not so amazing

[trim wing]

I mean it does feel kinda bad when the suspects react faster than your ai on hard, I've had suspects just push a doorway that one of my ai is looking at and kill him

And then I swapped off doing hard on sp

[inner nova]

I once had a situation where an enemy ran pass 3 of my teammates and killed me in front of them

They didn't do anything

[raven vector]

is -3900 a good score

[rotund cypress]

Where M50

[worldly root]

my shield guy always turns his back to gunfire and dies instantly

[inner nova]

My shield guys hide behind the guys with breach shotgun

Not related but i once had a gunner with deadly accuracy while shooting through the wall as if he had wall hacks

I didn't know tf happened till i saw the replay

[dense timber]

This game does not update at all huh

[pulsar schooner]

@round skiff NoPulse71

@rancid pebble

[round skiff]

@rancid pebble

Aiwariks On Epic

[sacred flicker]

do you guys think hard is more. realistic or standard

[clear willow]

Whats a solid loadout?

Im currently running 357 and M4 shotgun

[trim wing]

pretty much anything

[velvet urchin]

sr16 / ga416 / g36c / g3a3
mp5a2 / mp5a3 / p90 / ump45 / ump9
spread choke all shotguns, magazine 590m / fast pump 870cqb / full auto b1301 best / 1 less shell than b1301 for m1014 / supernova
b92x / 57 / g19 / 1911. pick any of these

[heady spade]

I mean AI and npcs are inhuman

They will track suspects and you trough walls and shit

[trim wing]

I think the spread was already tightened with an update

brake >
:D

also I believe the spread choke adds horizontal recoil

[velvet urchin]

it does but the benefits are really good

[jolly verge]

Spread choke is useless, spread is already too tight + ADS alone reduce it by 30%

You want a wide spread to hit head and arms while aiming at the chest area

[late elbow]

Does someone here knwo when the next maps/dlc will release this year and how many maps will there be?

[trim wing]

This year?

You mean next year?

2027 wooooooooo

[boreal stratus]

i'm REALLY hoping we can get like 6-10 maps this time around, since its been over a year at this point since the last new content drop

i don't mind paying for DLC, but it's frustrating that the modded levels keep being disabled by updates that don't add anything to the game

[high flume]

@trim wing it’s this year even says in description on game

[trim wing]

2035 update

[minor depot]

They never released that much content at the same time, so my guess is that it wont happen

[boreal stratus]

you're probably right. i'm just hoping that the wait will have been worth it

[wind gyro]

fuck no 😭

[trim wing]

Ehhhhh

[simple shale]

hey everyone, haven't played in a while, did they ever fix gas?

[trim wing]

depends how long you've been away for

did you mean fix it from being too good or fix it from being too bad

[simple shale]

I last played during console release and I remember gas being shit

[trim wing]

yea it's still shit

[simple shale]

oh well 🙁

[trim wing]

flashbangs are still pretty strong

[wind gyro]

it got nerfed and never buffed since

[sturdy venture]

i used to play a lot but i recently got back into it, any pointers on some good weapons to use?

i wanna do a hard dif run of the game

[wind gyro]

G3A3/GA51 for highest damage/caliber
SR16 for 1 less shot to incap and lower caliber

[sturdy venture]

thx

oh ye have they fixed mods? like can i still use mods

[thorn egret]

Huh, I can't post images into #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

[cursive minnow]

Yea if they're up to date. September 11 or after.

[sturdy venture]

alr thx

[trim wing]

I think most 5.56 or the p90 would be good for hard difficulty, with the way the suspect health has been adjusted, both 5.56 and 7.62x51 take 2 shots to the chest to incap

p90 takes 3 I believe, but has a great firerate and tons of ammo to make up for it

[sturdy venture]

good to know

after a hard run should i be ready for a S rank run?

[trim wing]

S rank standard?

[sturdy venture]

ye

[trim wing]

I feel like S rank standard is easier than hard

[sturdy venture]

really?

[trim wing]

yeah I think so

flashes, especially the launcher ones can be pretty powerful

[sturdy venture]

i didnt even use the launchers yet

[trim wing]

I think I normally give 2 ai breaching shotguns, 1 flash 40mm, and 1 mirrorgun

also if you're doing it on commander, the perks can make S ranks super easy

[sturdy venture]

ye i am

is there anything specific u reccomend to use in my loadout like stingers or gas stuff like that?

[trim wing]

I've never used stingers, but I don't think they're that great

and gas used to be good but is not really anymore

[sturdy venture]

idk why they nerfed gas

i tought it was still good

[trim wing]

I mean gas is okay but the radius is now super small and I think flashes just supersede them

[visual thistle]

When are they going to fix this game

Ridiculous

[sturdy venture]

ngl i dont think its that bad, i think the game is decent as of now

i didnt see that much different from the last time i played before home invasion

[trim wing]

I played from ea to now, the game has always been a little jank, but I feel like it peaked at dark waters

[sturdy venture]

dark waters destroyed all of the fucking mods as far as i know

[trim wing]

it just feels like now my friends and I are crashing on like every 3 mission entries/restarts

[trim wing]

I mainly played vanilla but I think there were a couple mods that were good

[sturdy venture]

same

out of curiosity what specs do u have?

[trim wing]

I don't have my main pc with me but it has a 4090 ti I believe, some amd cpu, and uhhh

I forgot

[sturdy venture]

alr i tought i may be ur specs

back before home invasion i used to crash a lot because i played on shit hardwear

it was mostly because of FSR

if it was turned on i would crash every single time

[trim wing]

nah I feel like I've been crashing just more since the console update, and experiencing more bugs

particularly annoying ones have been with free leaning

[sturdy venture]

like using Q and E to lean?

[trim wing]

no the alt lean

I feel like now I've been having more bugs with it

[sturdy venture]

idk why i just dont seem to find many bugs at all when i play

[trim wing]

sometimes it just constantly resets, I had one time where I just physically could not free lean right

[sturdy venture]

maybe visual bugs

[trim wing]

yeah I get a lot of visual and audio bugs too but normally they're like

okay and not a big deal

[sturdy venture]

ye but for me never any major gameplay bugs

[trim wing]

lucky

[sturdy venture]

🥰

i finally upgraded my setup and went from a 1650 to a 1070 and the game looks so much better and i swear i have seen not a single bug even visual ones

i think fsr is just shit on ron

[covert aurora]

Fellow 1070 uswr here

[sturdy venture]

nice

i just installed mine today

[covert aurora]

Nice!

[sturdy venture]

i played at like low at balanced fsr and 90% res and now i play at native and med

[covert aurora]

Nice!

[sturdy venture]

is elephant still imposible to secure all the civilians?

[wind gyro]

it never was

[sturdy venture]

it was for me

no matter how fast i cleared the school they would kill at least one civ

[wind gyro]

heres what you do:
dont give a fuck about civs
dont give a fuck about bombs
kill all suspects

[sturdy venture]

oh alr

[wind gyro]

hope this helps

[sturdy venture]

im positive it will

[gleaming knoll]

Does incapacitating somebody count as a kill

[gleaming knoll]

With a firearm

[sturdy venture]

i think so?

honsetly idk

[jolly verge]

Depends
Incapacitated count as kill for score and stress gain
HVT objectives count incapacitated suspect or civilian as alive

[distant rose]

how come i keep dying from seemingly nothing?

[jolly verge]

[gleaming knoll]

Thanks

[trim wing]

Turn your monitor on while playing :D

[thick dome]

for named targets no, for "arrest" targets, yes incaps = kill

[dense timber]

Based pfp

[chilly thorn]

You WANT to kill people?

You WANT to hit extra limbs?

Im sorry but tighter spread is a GOOD thing bro

[umbral oar]

if you’re running shotgun keeping people alive is probably the least of your worries

[chilly thorn]

Its pretty good at incapping

and also they just look cool

[lost inlet]

I mean, isn’t that why you use shotgun with buckshot in the first place?

[chilly thorn]

Not to blow someones arms off

yalls mfs play this shit too lethally iswtg

[marble oyster]

how does paramedic work

if your officer is killed they can get revived

[lost inlet]

Blame void for programming buckshot like that.

[marble oyster]

or do their death not count at the end of the level

[chilly thorn]

programming buckshot to hurt people? lol

Its possible to use it and avoid killing by not aiming for limbs

[lost inlet]

New flash, it’s still kills if all pellets hits only the torso.

If you really to want incap only while using shotgun then switch to slug.

[chilly thorn]

slugs are better yes

but again you can use a shotgun effectively by like NOT shooting someone

[lost inlet]

Or a different gun.

[chilly thorn]

I shoot around them sometimes and it scares them alot

Or if they have heavier body armor it can be used as an improvised beanbag

[lost inlet]

[chilly thorn]

Beanbags should be an option for all pumps

and nerf them like SEF

Nonlethals in SEF are way more balanced

[lost inlet]

SEF?

[chilly thorn]

making them actually fun to use rather then a win button

[chilly thorn]

Swat 4 elite force, Which I do believe some of the ron devs worked on.

[lost inlet]

Oh that.

[chilly thorn]

that mod is still better at a lot of stuff then this game is

specifically the suspects feeling more human in their animations and behavior

even if current ai is fine they still feel too suicidal

as in they run at you in combat most the time rather then into cover or fleeing

its always hesistate or they decide to stand their ground and its lame...

[lost inlet]

Boid is stern on this view as far as i know so probably not gonna gets change in the near future.

[chilly thorn]

eh I doubt that

they've already made effort before

[wind gyro]

@topaz parrot why did you match the horrible blurring and quality of actual bodycams 😭😭

[topaz parrot]

Cause I've watched way too much bodycam footage😭😭

[wind gyro]

so did i

thats chp car cams

they are like 180p

[topaz parrot]

It truly is js an early 2010's bodycam style💔

[lost inlet]

Cause majority of players demanded them to rework the AI.

[chilly thorn]

They weren't asking them to make them more advanced

they were asking them just to get rid of the "Aimbot" which me personally I haven't seen since adam

thats why the game was so ass easy in dark waters

Thats why hard mode was such a breath of fresh air

Only good thing about that new update besides the maps and guns

Adam update is probably the best AI since adam update

with Adam being the best since the unique actions were the most common and they were hard as hell

[wind gyro]

me when void hasnt fixed the ai in 300 gazillion years

[lost inlet]

Why fix when it’s working as intended.

[wind gyro]

if you know how to use it they are op

aka just let them go first

[marble oyster]

i keep seeing clips of suspects killing themselves

never had that happen to me, is it because its only on hard

[wind gyro]

its not only hard

i saw a literal suspect put their gun under their head right before i flash launchered him

[covert aurora]

It only happenes if their really stressed and moral is very low

[chilly thorn]

Swat ai are mid rn when it comes to follow orders, I personallly think besides the always seeming to want to fight head on suspects the enemy ai is really good.

[lost inlet]

I don’t trust them to be anything other than walking sentries.

[wind gyro]

me when i speak FACTS

[marble oyster]

what do you have to do to make it so they kill themselves? do they have to be an active shooter getting shot at or

[chilly thorn]

bro getting straight C ranks

[wind gyro]

a lot of c2s or something like that

[lost inlet]

B cause i use nade.

[marble oyster]

very cool

[flat sparrow]

Exactly

[lost inlet]

Also i just put a bullet in whoever decided to magdump suspect while holding a civi hostage.

[marble oyster]

what, like through the hostage?

[chilly thorn]

swat ai are bugged in lss to shoot hostage holding suspects

before they would yell instead

[chilly thorn]

thats still lowkey ass

thats like a 60/100 in swat 4

wouldn't really be enough to progress to the next map

[wind gyro]

didnt happen to me

[lost inlet]

Yup.

[lost inlet]

SWAT4 actually have better AI enemies so it’s easier to subdue them.

[chilly thorn]

They were way harder to subdue they just shot less

They always run away to better posistioning

[lost inlet]

[chilly thorn]

Its completely fair to say swat 4 ai is more difficult then ready or nots

[lost inlet]

Maybe it’s because i played the base game.

[chilly thorn]

SEF doesn't change ai besides the ability for them to pick up guns off the ground I believe

since it combines TSS and basegame

I do think ready or not suspects really open fire way too much to the point where it feels unimmersive and kinda boring

doesn't help that most suspects in ron can't shoot if their life depended on it so they aren't really a threat unless their are multiple

[inner nova]

either they die to the suspect or kill both the hostage and the gunner

There's no between

They also gun down civ who don't cooperate

Bro u only shouted once it's not gonna work

[chilly thorn]

when tf did you have swat ai do that

[inner nova]

I was just in another other room and see civilian killed or smth like that

Or unauthorised use of force

[chilly thorn]

Suspects can shoot civilians

the ai is unable to do uof

[inner nova]

Maybe it's the hostage situation

[chilly thorn]

Nah they can just

[inner nova]

And ye suspect can kill them too

[chilly thorn]

shoot them not even in hostage mode

I've seen them do it almost intentionally looking lol

[inner nova]

I've also seen my swat teammates end a hostage situation by deleting everyone in sight

[inner nova]

Objective failed

[chilly thorn]

yeahhh they do kinda just

shoot on hostages since LSS

idk why but the entire swat ai seems to be fucked in this update

same with the particle effects

[inner nova]

They sometimes freeze

[chilly thorn]

They meld into each other like a blob on stack ups

[inner nova]

You're in my way sir

Like just go around

Dude the corridor is wide enough

Also ignore active shooters in the room when breaching

[chilly thorn]

I feel like if they got rid of the constant "Your in my spot sir" this game would fail being a proper swat sequal lol

[haughty urchin]

hi how do i get better at this game

[inner nova]

Agree

[covert aurora]

Biggest thing is learn from your mistakes

[haughty urchin]

does applying real life swat techniques help

[covert aurora]

It can, if you know basic CQB then your fine

[chilly thorn]

just be really slow

and avoid shooting people of course

[haughty urchin]

maybe im just stupid being slow just doesnt work

i genuinely hate going down stairs its always a death trap

[river ibex]

My buddy has one of those fancy like, VR treadmills

its pretty damn cool

[little hatch]

you still on? i can run a few games, show you the ropes

[normal venture]

Would love seeing fingerless gloves

[normal venture]

Yea that‘d be dope

[chilly thorn]

lack of updates making ron fans schizo

but yeah they may be in fron the community post screenshot

[stuck mirage]

join lobby
kicked instantly
join new lobby
1,200 ping

[unkempt chasm]

Having trouble playing with PC friend , I’m on PS5
Anyone having this issue

[tacit gull]

Well the post also had a plate carrier that they cut from the game so its likely those are also cut and not actually coming

[chilly thorn]

or it could be coming back you doom and gloom ass mf

[tacit gull]

Nope

[pale temple]

any cqb tips?

[trim wing]

Hope in my ready or not? Hell nah

[trim wing]

Use lots of boolets

[jolly verge]

Reduce chance for officer being KIA after mission from 50% to 0%
1 Paramedic - 1 incapacitated officer instead of KIA

[eternal vine]

why does my ai officer sometimes just go around and get himself killed when i told it to stack up

[flat sparrow]

Flasbangs
Go Slow
Pie and clear the room/area as much as you can before entering in fully

[flat sparrow]

Humanity’s greatest question

[eternal vine]

what about why my officers have a reaction time of a turtle while my enemies have a reaction time of a fly

[flat sparrow]

Play alone using the friends multiplayer thing
Or just always tell the ai to go ahead

[eternal vine]

a suspect that all 4 of my officers had eyes on was literally reaching for a sidearm behind me when I waas trying to clear another angle w another armed suspect and for some reason i died because my ai officers suck

[flat sparrow]

Sounds like you need to plant c4 up their asses

Jokes aside just play solo

[eternal vine]

no they came out of no where i already had them on their knees

and im trying to S valley of the dolls

i was so close this time but the stupid officers had to screw me up

i suck at solo too because sometimes the suspects wont listen to command like "come to my positon" or "go somewhere"

idk if its bugged or something else its very annoying

[round skiff]

Dude no beef but i tried to S tier the oil rig on hard with dudes.
God we got minced

[round skiff]

I highly recommend an AI mod. changes everything

[unborn birch]

It'd be the coolest if they put an M16 in the game

[inner nova]

Is gas good for Greased Palms

For the warehouse ofc

[round skiff]

its odd to me because SWAT teams do use M16's
Also in alaska, overwhelming amounts of teams use AK platforms because AR platforms operate poorly in extreme frost conditions lol

[jolly verge]

No, gas do nothing after nerf

[inner nova]

What should I do at the warehouse then

[unborn birch]

Best not to rush head first into it, try going in through either the far left or right side

Take it slow, use your flashbangs

[inner nova]

I'm gonna abuse shield and pistol

It helped me kill 5 enemies in a row

[sullen shell]

How do I get my friend who is on PS5 to join me on a friends game (i am on steam) and i have cross play on

[real cloak]

Does he/she have an epic games account ?

[sullen shell]

yes?

[real cloak]

Then add them on epic and go into a friends only lobby and use the i pad thing to invite them

[sullen shell]

when i click invite, it opens like the steam list of friends

[real cloak]

Cant really help you with steam but try YouTube or something else

[sullen shell]

he tried to invite me but game gave an error

EOS_InvalidUser or something like that

[inner nova]

How do you make ai take cover and engage with enemies

They never shoot back for some reason

[latent monolith]

yay i bought ron

[fiery narwhal]

which gun has the highest ttk

[latent monolith]

idk, must be 7.62 or .300 guns

or shotguns

or anything with one-shot ability

[late prism]

That would be the lowest ttk, highest ttk would probably be a sidearm and if you aim for the leg.

This game doesn't really have a ttk as it's realistic with how bullets are bad for your health

[latent monolith]

oh yeah, my stupid ass

[fiery narwhal]

oops

I meant for shortest time to kill, my bad

[late prism]

Well still any gun can one shot really, it's not like COD where ttk is a major factor.

[inner nova]

Greased palms is hell

[late prism]

Yep

[inner nova]

I don't even know what to try anymore

[latent monolith]

yes

[worldly root]

flashbangs

lots of flashbangs for greased palms

[inner nova]

Usually all of my teammates just die and left me alone clearing the warehouse

Impossible

[worldly root]

i would use flashbangs and kinda weed out suspects in the conveyer area at door 03

[inner nova]

Flashbang would be useful if they don't stay still in open area

When i try to order them they just let themselves get killed first

[worldly root]

yeah i barely managed my ai when i did greased palms

[inner nova]

Pushing too far to get killed

[worldly root]

i probably used them to do anything other than deploy wedges like 3 times

oh and use wedges too

[inner nova]

I'm trying that now

[worldly root]

i wedge off the warehouse from the front 2 buildings no matter what im doing

[inner nova]

What shocked me is that they'd stand still and get shot and still don't return fire

[worldly root]

yea

[inner nova]

What door should I take to enter the warehouse

[worldly root]

i think on the larger maps they arent really that helpful cause they kinda just get lost

[worldly root]

always enter from the back shipping doors but that requires you to clear out the enter open back area

[inner nova]

They die while standing still

Always

[worldly root]

its that or imo the door next to the smaller right side building

[inner nova]

Sometimes they throw flashbangs next to their feet

[inner nova]

I'll try that next time

All they can do is literally tank damage and be used as human shield

[worldly root]

yeah

when i did my S run i was all dark red

[inner nova]

There isn't a guaranteed way of doing it right

[worldly root]

i think the ideal path is clear the front two buildings, clear out the side and back area, clear the conveyer area, then make your way to the offices area

thats at least what i do and its worked like 8 times out of 10

[inner nova]

[worldly root]

just have a bunch of flashbangs and the m203 flashbang launcher

use the launcher to help clear out the back area

or even the warehouse too

[inner nova]

So the post office and right building first

[worldly root]

yea

[inner nova]

The problem is when doing the fisa office part half of the enemies come here and kill my my team

[worldly root]

i try to do fisa office last just because of how exposed it is

i clear the upstairs office before fisa

[inner nova]

I mean once my team enter the area my team get wiped out

[worldly root]

honestly it just comes down to where the AI spawn

for my S run, i was able to do it on my first try cause most of them were in one area at the conveyers

[inner nova]

Goddamn it

[worldly root]

yeah on larger maps you gotta kinda luck out when it comes to suspect spawns

[inner nova]

Just let the feds or military take over

5 men swat team against 20+ john wicks

[worldly root]

just keep her going

[old star]

dlc 3 vs half life 3

[distant rose]

lowk just go in behind your ai

better the AI die than you

[inner nova]

There's only 4 to die

[distant rose]

tru

what difficulty? (i've only done medium)

[inner nova]

After that the next is me

[inner nova]

Hard

[distant rose]

yeah can only imagine the pain. medium was hard enoguh

[inner nova]

This makes cod vet look easy

Can't believe i was running with Kevlar in the first 3 missions