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[storm belfry]

Either that or life

[surreal pelican]

I almost got domed by him as I was trying to order my squad to clear the catwalk from the top office lol, managed to squat and order the flash

[cedar mulch]

The UPF's operational philosophy bears a striking resemblance to Pol Pot's, representing the height of narcissism. Moreover, their killing of innocent civilians currently appears to exceed that of Los Locos. While Los Locos employ drugs to erode society, the UPF harbour ambitions to eliminate half the city's population.

[chilly thorn]

???? huh lol???

[surreal pelican]

But yea, ideal spawn for me is either he remains in the FBI office OR the weapons cache area since I can easily grab him unharmed

[cedar mulch]

UPF essentially wishes for oil spills to cause more civilian deaths, as they believe nature is paramount above all else.

[storm belfry]

I read that and fully thought you just popped a squat before flashing Jack

[chilly thorn]

fbi office is the best

[urban comet]

It's because you get -200 and also not the 500 from saving all the civilians

[surreal pelican]

LOL, that mf saw me thru the window and I immediately crouched, heart monitor beeped

[surreal pelican]

So 700 points lost

[marsh lark]

Yes

[urban comet]

Yeah sometime more if you kill him too

[surreal pelican]

Wtf bru

[urban comet]

Can be like -800

Or 850 at worst

[surreal pelican]

Everytime when Jack died, I still get B if everything still goes to plan

[cedar mulch]

UPF is essentially no different from Pol Pot, for they are both madmen who believe they are doing good deeds.

[chilly thorn]

Lowkey I dont get why your even allowed to pass a mission with a civilian killed by your own hands

[cedar mulch]

[marsh lark]

True

[surreal pelican]

Self reflection

[marsh lark]

Not to mention it screws morale if you do that

[storm belfry]

I can only imagine you just falling on your ass doing that ngl bro

[marsh lark]

At least I think it does

[hollow jolt]

TOC acting mildly annoyed as you gun down 15 civilians

[chilly thorn]

Do you agree that the ROE in this game is FAR FAR too lenient

[marsh lark]

Not exactly

[surreal pelican]

Literally. My team was preparing to throw flashbang out of the door, and I was just peeking through window at the other side when he started shooting and I just immediately crouched lol, heart monitor beeped too

[chilly thorn]

TOCs dialouge seems a little too laid back when you make a mistake

[marsh lark]

It is iffy at times

[chilly thorn]

I dont like how you can shoot people as they put their gun down

the gun dropping animations completely allow shooting with no punishment

[marsh lark]

You can't

[hollow jolt]

The most peeved ive heard TOC was him just asking what the hell im doing

[marsh lark]

What

[surreal pelican]

The two random times when I got -50 for shooting the people outside, when my previous attempts at doing it didn't had any repercussions:

[chilly thorn]

They do as Of patch 3 it could be bugged though

[marsh lark]

Interesting

[hollow jolt]

And he didnt even seem that pissed. He just seemed somewhat annoyed

Like i should be getting screamed at 😭

[surreal pelican]

The most hurtful one is when he says me and my squad did a shit job post op

[cedar mulch]

Why is it that only MLO and Los Locos have mascot figures, while other factions have virtually none?

[storm belfry]

Scared you so bad your heart reset?

[urban comet]

They can be on their knees or recently incap and you can still kill them and get away with it lol as long as you take the shot quick

[surreal pelican]

Nah, too much damage and the game played the heart beep sound 😭

Almost died thanks to him

[chilly thorn]

This game should not allow any form of shooting corpses even if they are dead you should lose major points for that

[hollow jolt]

Minor inconvenience (joke)

[storm belfry]

Zombie land rules

[hollow jolt]

You ever have someone charge you with a knife after surrendeirng

[chilly thorn]

your supposed to keep the suspects as unharmed as possible dawg

[urban comet]

You can mag dump in bodies but you lose points if you throw a flash too close to the swat

Makes sense

[chilly thorn]

even if they are wearing anti flash goggles

[hollow jolt]

It loud i suppose

[chilly thorn]

so are the guns they are shooting and they wear ear pro

[surreal pelican]

And you lose points for beating the crap out of a surrendered suspect too hard

[urban comet]

Who would have thought that swat used flashbang in close encounters, the penalty really makes sense yeah

[hollow jolt]

That one seems fair

[urban comet]

Beating up voll until f score

[chilly thorn]

you cant hit a defenseless person dawg lol

[surreal pelican]

Buckshot

[surreal pelican]

That's what they get for killing one of my squad members

[urban comet]

Just execute them and take the -150

[hollow jolt]

Does anyone else need to scream at people to sit the fuck down like 1000 times to make this random 19 year old put their hands up in the middle of an active shooting/bombing

[surreal pelican]

Nah my team immediately shoots me lol

Every team member lost is -100

[urban comet]

I forgot they do that

[surreal pelican]

I just use taser

Especially on that idiot Maria on GP, if she's at the front office

Idiot will just waltz into the left side room door and alert the suspects inside there

[chilly thorn]

I just ignore the civvies until the map is threatless

[urban comet]

If you bash them with your gun they instantly surrender

[surreal pelican]

You can ask them to run to exit too

[hollow jolt]

Wha

[surreal pelican]

If they on their knees

[chilly thorn]

Yeah that too

[hollow jolt]

Well now i feel bad for leaving them cuffed nextdoor to an active shooter while i go check a diffferent room

[surreal pelican]

What's yall favourite vests? Mine is probably the FISA one from Hide And Seek

[surreal pelican]

I use move to exit if there's imminent danger or just wanna move on without cuffing them

[chilly thorn]

The one from dark waters

[surreal pelican]

Very useful on maps like Greased Palms especially

[chilly thorn]

Its just a clean normal civilian looking bullet proof vest its neat

[surreal pelican]

Nice

The Home Invasion one looks sleek too

Works well on civilian shirts

[hollow jolt]

Imagine the swat pull up and theyre just in a fucking band tee

[surreal pelican]

Off Duty

[chilly thorn]

all my outfits are basically basic black or PUP Swat Gear 90s clothes mod

[surreal pelican]

The most scariest suspect voicelines I've probably heard is the one from Narcos

[hollow jolt]

You get executed by a dude in the goddam minecraft creeper tshirt

[surreal pelican]

All of them are high AF and are happy to be in firefight

[surreal pelican]

"Yeah! There's going to be blood on the streets tonight!"

[chilly thorn]

HURRICANE GOT NOTHING ON US, WOOOOOHOOOO!!!

[surreal pelican]

And they have drum mags as well, fully auto

[chilly thorn]

those suspects are actual fucking maniacs I love it

[surreal pelican]

Yea

I love their outfit too

[hollow jolt]

Suspects who are just fucking batshit are fun

[surreal pelican]

The Los Locos on narcos is a whole nother offshoot, just completely deranged, high and armed to the teeth

[chilly thorn]

I think the "Craziest" suspect would probably be the War Memoriabilia collector on Stolen Valor

he has some of the most unhinged dialouge i've ever heard

[surreal pelican]

Nah, not craziest. Doesn't have drum mag

[chilly thorn]

I mean in dialouge and personality

that dude fucking mag dumping a hallway and screaming then he reloads and shouts "MORE BULLETS MORE BODIES!!"

[hollow jolt]

Who the hell is this guy

[surreal pelican]

I dislike Stolen Valour a lot, mf can't even see the fucking traps outside and 8 times out of 10 they immediately grab hostages

[surreal pelican]

Stolen Valour weapons collector

The one in the Iraq Veteran vest

[chilly thorn]

I love stolen valour its pure chaos in carnate

[hollow jolt]

Ive got a certain fictional god this man would love

[surreal pelican]

Khorne

[chilly thorn]

I once heard him whispering fucking "I don't lose... I don't lose.... I'm ready I'm here to kill.."

[surreal pelican]

Blood for the Blood God, Skulls for his Skull Throne

[hollow jolt]

He might have to get more friendly with melee combat tho

[chilly thorn]

'I'll rip that mask off and fucking break your face!"

[surreal pelican]

Funny how I remember that he dislikes military service or something but then collects a lot of memorabilia

[hollow jolt]

Honestly let that man spit shit hes just in his feeling right now

[chilly thorn]

He loves the military he hates cops

[surreal pelican]

o

[hollow jolt]

Hes vibing

[surreal pelican]

Don't forget the neighbour voiceline in the beginning of mission

Something about the neighbour saying "you guys done fucked now, ahahahahaha"

[chilly thorn]

He has a pretty reasonable reason to hate cops to be honest

[chilly thorn]

My favorite is "Oh you boys are gonna die down there!"

[surreal pelican]

That's the neighbour voiceline right

The one that plays in the beginning as you enter the apartment

[chilly thorn]

its one of them

[hollow jolt]

Something about this line tells me his name is jimmy

[surreal pelican]

Def the dude who made the call to 911

[chilly thorn]

that would be funny as fuck because hes talking about you as the ones who are going to die lol

[surreal pelican]

Wait he was talking about us?

[chilly thorn]

yeah

[surreal pelican]

Bru

[hollow jolt]

I too wouldn't be confident if i was sending some lads down to death tornado gary

Well id be confident. But not in there survival

[surreal pelican]

And imagine the P2 officer

The one who got captured in apartment

Scared shitless, hung up on the ceiling

[hollow jolt]

OOOOH now i know what mission were on about 100%

[surreal pelican]

Chief is a ass for sending him to 213

[chilly thorn]

He has cigarrete burns on his head as well as heavy bruising

so he was most likely tortured

[hollow jolt]

The one with the weed farm in the basement and the dickheads on the stairs?

[chilly thorn]

Yeah it has some of the best dialouge in the game

even the generic suspects have style

[surreal pelican]

Yeh that's Stolen Valour

[chilly thorn]

"You got that gun but I got hands!"

[surreal pelican]

213 Residence is just Pacifica from CP 2077

[hollow jolt]

Let my man throw hands

[hollow jolt]

HAAAAANK

[chilly thorn]

They also just straight up say "One less mouth to feed" after watching their friends die

[surreal pelican]

LOL

[surreal pelican]

Even Los Locos don't say this

[hollow jolt]

I mean reasonable i suppose but goddamm

Give him a minute i just shot the man

[surreal pelican]

"Damn, they got him?" - Los Locos member

[hollow jolt]

Hes probably still alive bleeding out hearing that 😭

[surreal pelican]

My canon take for Narcos is that D Platoon doesn't let any of the Los Locos there walk unscathed

Especially after seeing Esperanza

[chilly thorn]

Esperanza is missing one of his balls btw

[surreal pelican]

Damn

[hollow jolt]

If were D platoon

Imagine wtf platoons a through c are going through

[surreal pelican]

213

[chilly thorn]

Best for them to recieve a sentance, Stooping to their level isn't a good thing.

[surreal pelican]

And they're just the normal patrol cops

[hollow jolt]

Oh god 😭

[surreal pelican]

Nah, just incapping them

Let them suffer first

[chilly thorn]

Esperenza was a spy in the los locos and the Cop on 213 was just a guy

[surreal pelican]

Yeah, D Platoon is the SWAT element

A to C Platoons are the normal cops iirc, same for LAPD

[chilly thorn]

Imma be honest not to break any esperanza fans hearts

he definently didn't survive that

he had one of his eyes gauged out and every thing he was fucked medically

[hollow jolt]

Rip esperenza you were sombody im almost sure

[surreal pelican]

Beyond saving

[chilly thorn]

He also survived the car dealearship too lol

[surreal pelican]

Thats why shoot first, questions later if possible. For narcos. Mfs even got 100 round drum mags

[surreal pelican]

I got a feeling as to where the devs got the idea from

Like what one of the team members said on Port,

"I think I know where this is going"

[surreal pelican]

They should've included him as a person to rescue

[chilly thorn]

Hes in the map but hes heavily bugged

hes a suspect

or at least his model was used for a suspect for some reason

[surreal pelican]

I've never seen him on dealership

[chilly thorn]

Hes the guy with the beard and hat

or at least thats his model I dont think its supposed to be him

[chilly thorn]

their reload dialouge is so funny

"Gah, Fuck... ah shit.. fuck... ah.. here we go... yeah. let's kill"

Honestly this games suspects don't get enough credit for the insanely quoutable performances they give

great voice acting across the board in this game

[raven ice]

What the fuck, I just got in this server and this is the first thing that I read

[chilly thorn]

whats wrong wtih it lol

[surreal pelican]

Yeap

[desert vapor]

Hey guys. I'm a bit new to RoN, and I wanted to ask if anyone knows what would be the best way to break suspects morale when you're on lethal. My officers keep resigning and that stops me from getting the achievement

[jolly verge]

Breaching with C2, using grenades, 2 officers with negotiator trait

2 negotiators is the easiest way

[desert vapor]

Is intimidator viable as well?

[jolly verge]

No, it's does not work on alerted suspects

[desert vapor]

Oh, I see. Does SBAGS also a have a big impact?

Is it worth bringing?

[jolly verge]

S.B.A.G.S. or Moral officer traits are useless, stick with 2 negotiators

For another 2 take armorer and nutritionist

[desert vapor]

Alright. Thank you for the advice!

Oh, forgot to ask, but if anyone wants to still answer, is the breacher trait worth it?

[jolly verge]

Useless too

[desert vapor]

Thank you again then!

[jolly verge]

All you need is 2 negotiators to keep officers content #👮ron-discussion message

[desert vapor]

Thank you very much for the advice! I greatly appreciate it!

[warped chasm]

how come when i get certain attachment mods other attachments become white and the attachment doesnt appear

[quick vapor]

How do you s rank a missipn when they keep taking people hostage

[hollow jolt]

take them hostage in retaliation

[surreal pelican]

Additionally, armour wise you'd want to give the AI heavy steel, full coverage

For yourself, you can either run light steel for the extra utility slots or heavy steel for full coverage around your torso, meaning your left and right sides are protected too

[surreal pelican]

Flashbang or beanbag shotgun their limb

[sharp quartz]

How do u get an A rank on the hide and seek mission I did everything correct just not non lethal but only got a B rank

[rocky plover]

arrest more suspect rather than killing everyone

[sharp quartz]

Is there a certain threshold for how many must be arrested?

[rocky plover]

don't know the exact % for suspects, but since that map has many suspects compared to other maps you need to arrest more

[jolly verge]

A - 90% of max score

[rocky plover]

in my opinion it's easier to just get S, rather than try aiming for a specific A or A+ in those types of maps

[sharp quartz]

It’s just a pain with getting them to surrender since they shoot from so far away

[desert vapor]

I heard that steel is worse then ceramic because bullets can bounce and hit your teammates

[rocky plover]

yea thats why it's its easier to go with full less lethal in my opinion, because with lethal it varies from A+ to C most of the time, so just get S

[rocky plover]

spalling, but very negligible in my opinion

[jolly verge]

It's an AoE sphere, not bounce, you literally have to hug your teammate to take the damage from spalling

[sharp quartz]

Ok thanks man 🤙

[desert vapor]

Does the armored trait also apply to steel?

[rocky plover]

you're welcome

[jolly verge]

Yes

[rocky plover]

ye from 86.5% to 91.5%

[desert vapor]

Huh. Someone told me it only applies to ceramic. Thanks for letting me know

[rocky plover]

that was when it was introduced i believe but it was fixed

[jolly verge]

Nope

Always been like this

[desert vapor]

Thanks for all the info from both of you

[jolly verge]

1 armorer 1 nutritionist and you become pretty much unkillable

[desert vapor]

This is really useful! Thank you!

[slender jungle]

What primary are most people in the game using

[surreal pelican]

ARN

[rocky plover]

varies a lot tbh, but the arn-180 with JHP is very versatile, usable on all maps except 3 maps where they got suspects with L4 armor

[surreal pelican]

A+ is for when you have one dead suspect on a S run 😂

Should've seen my face and reaction when I realised that one of the suspects in my Relapse Hard S run decided to take the easy way out

[hybrid belfry]

Whats the best officer traits for Ironman mode

[surreal pelican]

I used 2x Pacifier, 1x Negotiator and 1x Armourer

[hybrid belfry]

so true

[rocky plover]

i'd surprisingly get a lot of A+ on lethal runs tbh

[surreal pelican]

Minimum for me is B

[hybrid belfry]

pacifier is the one that uses non lethal weapons right?

[surreal pelican]

Yeh

[surreal pelican]

A is for when everything goes to plan, still don't know the criteria for A+ aside from one dead perp and the rest is alive

[hybrid belfry]

I got only fucking 3 veterans, 1 armourer, kicker and the guy that makes suspects surrender if u shout at them

[rocky plover]

depends on your approach
for lethal runs: 1 armorer, 1 nutritionist, 2 veteran
for less lethal: 2 negotiators, 2 pacifiers

[hybrid belfry]

I'd like to get whatever rank just for my boys not to die

[surreal pelican]

Curious, if ever, do you use Commander or Quick play? For AI

[rocky plover]

same, I went with the lethal approach

[hybrid belfry]

who tf needs non-lethal in ironman

[jolly verge]

Standart lethal build is 2 negotiators 1 armorer 1 nutritionist

[rocky plover]

QP, I only used commander mode for my achievements and never touched it again

[slender jungle]

What are the 3 maps?

[rocky plover]

well the m32a1 is very op

[surreal pelican]

Elephant, Sins of the Father, Leviathan

[hybrid belfry]

all i need is 1 nutritionist then

[jolly verge]

Also full steel and ballistic mask

[surreal pelican]

I only ran Commander mode for the S and Hard mode achievements

[rocky plover]

i did those on Mp and QP

[hybrid belfry]

balistic mask is shit, helmet saved me more than that

[surreal pelican]

I still grief when one of my AI teammates die

[rocky plover]

can use both xD

[jolly verge]

Ballistic mask is the same thing as helmet but with better stats

[surreal pelican]

I'll never forget that one time I tried to test my rng by doing lethal Sleeper Agent only to realise I wasted 5 hours straight

[hybrid belfry]

never saved me

[rocky plover]

it's an extra attachment to your helmet basically

[jolly verge]

It's tank 2 shots instead of just 1 and have 33% ricochet chance vs 25%

[hybrid belfry]

gasmask is better imo

[hybrid belfry]

a lucky man doesnt need any armor

[surreal pelican]

Also gives assurance that your AI won't die easily

[rocky plover]

doesnt give protection though

[hybrid belfry]

I put those masks on AI but not on myself

im sure they will die more

[rocky plover]

i mean it took me around the same amount of hrs to get it lol

[surreal pelican]

And when I finally decided to just try the non lethal way;

Done in 30 mins

[rocky plover]

🤣

[jolly verge]

Gas mask is kinda useless with nerfed gas

It's does save from FF if you using pepperballs but that it

[surreal pelican]

Big Shell Specialist was no easier too

[hybrid belfry]

gng why does my flashbang kill suspects sometimes

[rocky plover]

that was very easy for me, literally took 2 minutes, but they patched the method to how I did it

[surreal pelican]

😭 That's why I took a fair amount of tries for the BSS achievement

The shaky environment didn't help at all too

[rocky plover]

ye its a waiting simulator now

[jolly verge]

Flashbang deal only 0.05 damage, you can't kill anyone with it

[hybrid belfry]

gng i saw multiple times i threw flashbang at ALIVE suspect

and those mf died

[jolly verge]

Not a thing, unless you have some weird mods

[surreal pelican]

OR hunting simulator

Literally I had to go around finding and praying I had a good shot

[rocky plover]

yea

[surreal pelican]

I change my mind bout Narcos

Greased Palms just whooped my ass today

Both equally hard

[rocky plover]

ye they're up there when compared to others

[surreal pelican]

Sinuous Trail is a smaller scale Greased Palms, at the server rack area

[hybrid belfry]

AI teammate said "Judge. You up for a quick 1v1? I'll go easy on you."

this deadass finna be cooked

[surreal pelican]

I'm still amazed at how many times steel saved me and my teammates

[hybrid belfry]

im using ceramic, im into speed

[surreal pelican]

Speed is the same, only difference is acceleration

[rocky plover]

if using light armor acceleration is almost the same

[hybrid belfry]

arent u a bit faster with light armor with ceramic plates

[rocky plover]

with heavy you see a difference cos of extra plates

[surreal pelican]

Only for when you start to walk, constant walking speed is all the same

[rocky plover]

ye but light armor with ceramic vs steel its very similar

[surreal pelican]

I use light steel while my AI gets heavy steel

[rocky plover]

cos speed penalty was decreased for steel

[surreal pelican]

Before the buff, only difference was acceleration speed right?

[rocky plover]

there still is just less

[jolly verge]

By 5% per plate

[surreal pelican]

I mean I'd take steel any time of the day now. Ceramic just doesn't do well enough for me and my boys now

[rocky plover]

ye from 23 to 18

[surreal pelican]

o, but walking speed is same for all types right?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

[rocky plover]

yea

[surreal pelican]

Ah then it isn't much of a bother

[rocky plover]

just the initial inertia is different

[surreal pelican]

Extra protection for the cost of maybe slower initial speed

What fit do you guys rock? Atm I'm using FISA HRT, looks nice

[rocky plover]

true, but I hate heavy full steel for myself, then it feels too slow and actually gets me more killed than stab vest lol cos too slow to get to cover

[jolly verge]

[jolly verge]

Bomb vest is nice

[rocky plover]

forgot what it's called, i tend to change a bit every now and then as well XD

[surreal pelican]

I run light for the extra bangs. I always carry 6 flash and 4 primary and 2 secondary (rarely use pistol, unless my primary has AP and I need to go for Hostage limb shots)

[surreal pelican]

Me too, but my primary is FISA HRT, I love the vest

[surreal pelican]

Added bonus:

Take out any nearby enemy

[rocky plover]

ye with light, the acceleration is doable to get to cover, I hate it with heavy though and prefer stab vest if i just want more utility XD

[surreal pelican]

I started to notice the acceleration diff, Ai slow AF lol

[surreal pelican]

At the cost of dying to 9mm

[rocky plover]

Ai match your speed though so its irrelevant what you give them

[surreal pelican]

Yea, just the part when they start to move

Something I noticed is that they make small little dust trails when walking on GP. Dunno if it's map exclusive lol

[rocky plover]

i end up being shot less with stab vest over heavy vest though thats why i prefer it cos its easier to take cover

[surreal pelican]

Nice

I just run light, good in between with protection

[rocky plover]

ye same

especially for lethal

[surreal pelican]

Feels so good not dying in 4 shots to 7.62x51

[rocky plover]

[jolly verge]

Usually I take it in random lobby in case they decide to TK me

[surreal pelican]

How many slots does it offer lol

[jolly verge]

None, you can equip it with any armor, actually it's 10 iirc if you use it instead of armor

[pallid reef]

whats the best pack to buy (home invasion or dark waters) im think abt buying one

[jolly verge]

Dark Waters imo

[rocky plover]

personal opinion tbh, depends what you like

[surreal pelican]

Kaboom

[wide verge]

I like black multicam with multicam hrt vest and the ops core helmet in multicam

My loadout is mostly 416 with aimpoint t2. IR laser. Glock with light. 5 flashes. Rest in mags. Quad nods. Light armor ceramic.

Anyone down for some tactical playing, not less lethal, add me on ps5 LeonVega88

[wide verge]

Both honestly

[cobalt dawn]

Question, how do you fix "timeout connection to epic" so you cant play multiplayer, everything seems correct on home end, and weird... BUT could be possible ISP could be the issue.

But a lot of people have this issue

[slender jungle]

Is hunger strike like an extra mission after beating the campaign or what’s the deal

[rocky plover]

hunger strike and stolen valor are part of the Los Suenos Stories console update which was released after the Home Invasion DLC and Dark Waters DLC

[slender jungle]

Cool

[marsh lark]

People have this issue, though it has anything rarely to do with Void.

For the most part it is Epic at fault for that

[cobalt dawn]

they should reach out to epic then:\

[marsh lark]

I don't think there's much that can be done. We use their servers to facilitate ours and allow crossplay, but any connection is handled through Epic's servers

[cobalt dawn]

its strange, there is always a solution though. just need to look. 🙁 but it can be very difficult indeed

[slender jungle]

lol how am i having such a hard time with stolen valor 😭

[rustic lotus]

Utilize flash/launchers, have ai teammates have a shield what helped me unless ur trying to s rank

[slender jungle]

Fax

[left wing]

iam wondering why they removed variants from the missions. Does anyone know? i loved them

[hybrid belfry]

jus lost at greased palms

this fuckass mask aint doing shit!

[slender jungle]

Not getting anything from S ranking the LSS missions is kinda lame ngl :/

[hybrid belfry]

RoN is lame fr

play roblox guys

[slender jungle]

But seriously

[jolly verge]

[desert vapor]

Should one yell for compliance before entering a room or rounding the corner? Will that up my chances of arresting suspects or just spook them so they run away or get into cover

[marsh lark]

Not sure as to why, but you can surmize that it probably would not fit the lore of the map.

[cedar mulch]

Can Los Locos intimidate UPF, or is UPF fearless?🤔

[left wing]

but it made the maps feel more custom and alive yk? But i understand what u mean. I just wish they would add them back at least optional yk? i think it would increase the Player count

[marsh lark]

Who knows

maybe they will, but I think it was EA feature

[left wing]

But dont get me Wrong. Iam grateful for everything

[left wing]

we can just hope

[cedar mulch]

They are more akin to a dark counterpart of the LSPD. Should the LSPD and other law enforcement agencies cease to exist, would Los Locos step in to deal with terrorist organisations they deem a threat to the city?

They are essentially a form of order.

[jolly verge]

Yell for compliance affect suspects morale and surrender chance only when you have line of sight, yelling behind the wall will just increase their stress.
You can prefire around corner tho since it's last a 2-3 seconds

[solemn patio]

Should I try to do a regular police type run where I try to play like I aint SWAT fellas

[brave lance]

I tried couldn’t get past greased palms

[solemn patio]

Like some random cops on scene

[solemn patio]

HK G3 then

Use that it whoops ass and dont look ass

[desert vapor]

Noted! I really appreciate all your answers!

[brave lance]

Why is Judge so ugly from the nose up

[jolly verge]

Check this spreadsheet for more info if you interested https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[desert vapor]

These are the questions we need to be asking ourselves

[brave lance]

Oh my

[desert vapor]

Kinds glad I joined this discord because how else am I supposed to find out all of this! Thank you very much!

[desert vapor]

He actually doesn't look so bad here

[brave lance]

In the locker take off his goggles he looks like he’s been through three tours of Vietnam

[solemn patio]

Helmetless trust

[brave lance]

GG’s

[desert vapor]

He might have been. He seems very experienced

[solemn patio]

Judge is a meth head who the department is using for his superpowers

Trustt

[brave lance]

That makes sense thank you for informing me 😀

[brave lance]

Jesus Christ

[solemn patio]

Imagine if WHAT THE FUCK

[jolly verge]

That would be this one

[brave lance]

I’m pretty sure Judge was in the USIA

[solemn patio]

I headcanon he was like marsoc since in the thumbnail I think he uses the M45A1

long slide 1911

[brave lance]

I hate the 1911

I need more rounds than 7

[prisma goblet]

Cause .45 ACP are no good

[brave lance]

That too

[prisma goblet]

🤤H&K...

[solemn patio]

I used it as a shield gun once or twice

I need to get the clip

[brave lance]

If I go shield I use the FIVESEVEN I think it’s called

[solemn patio]

Check the RON clips n media channel

[lost inlet]

use the USP.

[solemn patio]

I use a 9mm because the five seven looks ugly as hell

[jolly verge]

.45 on Carriers is a bad idea

[solemn patio]

I use the M45 as my pimp gun

[brave lance]

It don’t look THAT bad

[solemn patio]

YES IT DOES MY GUY

Besides I only pair it with the P90

[wide verge]

I only like the 5 7 with a suppressor

[lost inlet]

unless you can consistently hitting limbs while using JHP.

[solemn patio]

Im opposite here

[lost inlet]

or hitting headshot.

[solemn patio]

Why not CoM? Thats what I hit, 3 hits lights out.

[lost inlet]

CoM?

[solemn patio]

Center of mass mate

[wide verge]

cleared the hospital earlier solo. on standard. it wasn't as bad as I expected, I have that map memorized

416, glock, no flashes

[lost inlet]

oh. Cause majority of enemies wears L2 plates and some even L3 plates which is all bad for .45 JHP.

[solemn patio]

WHAT THE FUCK

[lost inlet]

AP can beats L2 but still near useless against L3.

[solemn patio]

MAKE IT VISIBLE ATLEAST

[lost inlet]

boid forgot.

[wide verge]

the five seven mk3 looks pretty cool https://fnherstal.com/app/uploads/STM4779-scaled.jpg

[solemn patio]

Imagine changable windows you can sacrifice a slot for

[wind gyro]

tf is that site

[solemn patio]

FN Herstal site ig

[wide verge]

the official FN site??

[solemn patio]

Five seven MK3 looks so much better

[wide verge]

or are links not allowed? If so, sorry

[solemn patio]

Idk people wont trust a random link this day and age

[solemn patio]

It looks like an actual gun ffs

[wide verge]

My favorite pistols are sigs, especially the 226. Love the M11. I really dislike glocks looks wise, but there isn't a better handgun than a glock 17 in my opinion

[solemn patio]

I want a glock 21 lowkey

.45 acp glock

[wide verge]

theyre all good

[solemn patio]

Hell even a glock 22

40 s&w

[solemn patio]

Ergonomics are like a damn brick though

I like 1911 style ergos

[solemn patio]

P320 when

[wide verge]

glock 48 is a good choice if you like slimmer profiles

[wide verge]

probably never

[solemn patio]

Whyyy

[wide verge]

controversy

I want a HK 417 in the game so bad

or SR25/M110

I dont like any of the battle rifles

[solemn patio]

Make more sense for the officer descriptions (one of them has the officer have shot themself twice by accident)

[woven mango]

Im on neon tomb rn

The sound of the phones ringing is haunting as hell at the entrance

[lost inlet]

but the song playing inside is slap though.

[woven mango]

Yeah

[wide verge]

I find neon tomb more disturbing than elephant. Also the damn s vest guys ruined a lot of runs for me

[woven mango]

Lmao

But yeah

The piled up bodies

[solemn patio]

I got distracted by the ladies on that level and got shot at LOL

[solemn patio]

Had a blast on neon tomb recently

[solemn patio]

Its club shit mate

[wide verge]

I dont find the map that hard, there are easy routes and wedges make it much, much easier

[solemn patio]

Id prefer it to change between 3 songs

[wide verge]

first thing I do is go to the DJ station and turn that shit off

[solemn patio]

I would do that if I wasn’t afraid of being shot

Imagine a K9 as a long tactical

Just pull out a dog and set him lose on a suspect

“FETCH ME THEIR SOULS!!”

[woven mango]

Lmfao

[woven mango]

Where is that

[wide verge]

upstairs

its like a balcony thing you can reach

dj booth whatever

[woven mango]

Oh okay

Cheers

[hollow jolt]

thats CoMM

[nova forge]

kinda wish latex gloves were a cosmetic option, maybe as a second reward for relapse

[solemn patio]

The mate isnt included sorry

[solemn patio]

Imagine if you could dress up in like bloodied scrubs

[flat sparrow]

[solemn patio]

Imagine if they added like a concession stand to the precinct

And an economy system to buy stuff from it using mission pay

“WHITE MONSTER; TASTES AWFUL, REDUCES OFFICER MORALE, MAKES OFFICERS FASTER”

[nova forge]

😭

[solemn patio]

suspects suddenly have a panic attack seeing anyone in scrubs after they recover

“COPS THE COPS!!!”

[nova forge]

lmfaoo

[nova forge]

ive always thought about this, maybe the vending machine could give you small boosts depending on which one you drink before the next mission

[solemn patio]

Imagine if they added like precinct rumors you can hear about

Like a certain vending machine spits out unlabeled drinks with different effects

[nova forge]

caffeinated stuff (+15% speed in movement speed, ADS, or cuffing speed)

tea of any kind (+15% more stable aiming, lose blood slower)

[solemn patio]

Turns out the machine tears up the labels when storing them

[nova forge]

xd

[solemn patio]

And the buttons are all blank

[solemn patio]

Imagine if it stacked

Drink like 10 coffees suddenly you’re usain bolt

[nova forge]

lmaoo

at that point use mods 😭

[marsh lark]

It was a thing

[nova forge]

oooh thats kinda cool

[marsh lark]

In EA when you drank 3 coffees you became speedy as shit but your vision was blury

Then it was removed

[frigid zealot]

What’s a good setup for a new player and is equipping the heavy armor good?

[wind gyro]

yes it is

[frigid zealot]

Also I’ve been using non lethal guns?, is that effective?

[wind gyro]

depends which

[jolly verge]

Heavy vest with full coverage steel or ceramic + ballistic mask is must have for a new player, as for a gun take ARN-180 with SFMB, vertical grip and JHP ammo

[frigid zealot]

Currently I’m trying to use non lethal tbh and it has worked so far

[jolly verge]

M32A1 - meta
Pepperballs - for casual and standart only
Beanbag is good if you can hit your shots

[frigid zealot]

Wish they can add modded support to console tbh lol

[jolly verge]

Never

[wind gyro]

not gonna happen anytime soon

[gritty nova]

If you are going for S ranks it is

But if you're playing for fun I would recommend playing with lethal

[gritty nova]

Well actually overall lethal weapons are more effective as you can just kill anyone who shoots at you in just a few shots

I recommend the MKV for shooting people in the face

[flat sparrow]

Lol yes

[wind gyro]

i ate a pizza <t:1768152035:R>

[copper dome]

Fix the gas 🗣️

[wind gyro]

it was nerfed vro

[copper dome]

And they need to revert it and fix it

[wind gyro]

no

[copper dome]

fix the mistake they made

[wind gyro]

just use a flash launcher its better than gas

[copper dome]

It’s buns

[tacit gull]

yeah use the gas launcher

[wind gyro]

lets keep it professional

[copper dome]

“Just use flash and ignore gas because we nerfed it heavily and made it useless” lmao ok

[wind gyro]

whats wrong with that

[copper dome]

You genuinely don’t see the problem.?

[wind gyro]

no

[copper dome]

😭😭

[wind gyro]

just use the flash launcher while its op

[hollow jolt]

gas sucks ass it covers like an area as wide as my body. and has never done shit

[copper dome]

Or they can fix the gas and revert the god awful nerf they did that makes a third of the throwable equipment useless.

[solemn patio]

Imagine like an underbarrel grenade launcher (less lethal)

With the option for like riot rounds that hurt

[copper dome]

They’d nerf it into oblivion don’t worry

[solemn patio]

Like beanbag shotgun shells

[solemn patio]

Fix the gas, I agree

[nova forge]

heavy armor protects your sides, at the cost of less utility

[nova forge]

this is a confusing statement because modding is pretty much an exclusive feature of dedicated computers

its like saying "i wish they added more keyboard features to console"

or "i wish they added winRAR to console"

[copper dome]

Lots of games have mods for consoles but I get the point

[tacit gull]

wrong

[nova forge]

ohhh, in that case i think yeah there should be more mod support

[nova forge]

i dont like you so im going to ignore you

[bright junco]

I love this game!!!!! If I can play one game for the rest of my life it'd be RoN.

[tacit gull]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-rabbit-funny-meme-of-doom-gif-16870180812739354453

[copper dome]

It’s definitely not a huge amount but there’s probably like 30 games with mods and everything. Not huge but still capable

[tacit gull]

ok i definetly doubt there's that many

but there's a few

[nova forge]

i guess the skepticism is that you're referencing plugins and not mods

plugins are different from mods because mods are editable on the fly and on the device itself, and plugins are designed to be just toggled on or off to add features, as a pre-set package

[tacit gull]

[nova forge]

i should also mention im terribly racist towards console players

the skull shape phrenology of a console player is simply inferior to that of a respectable, distinguished PC player

[copper dome]

Age of empires 4, dying light 2, 4 stalker games, snow runner, expeditions, teardown, tabs, Skyrim, fallout, bg3, ark (plugins I think) farming sim 17, 19, 22, 25, space engineers, starfield, ESO (add ons called mods count if you want) arma reforger

[wind gyro]

first and final words

[charred birch]

Mods, exterminate this person

[copper dome]

You’re my twin fr

[wind gyro]

is it that hard to check the pinned in #🔧modding-chat

none of these games come close to rons size

[copper dome]

Half of them are actually bigger lmaooo.

[nova forge]

id say arma reforger isnt as big as people think it is 😔

[wind gyro]

you proved my point

every game there is bigger than ron

and has a bigger dedicated dev team

[copper dome]

But again I should state I’m not trying to argue mods should come to console for Ron I’m literally saying mods on console do exist

Read through a conversation before butting in all hostile

[wind gyro]

most of these arent done on ue5

[copper dome]

That wasn’t the point of the conversation I say again.

[wind gyro]

so sadly its not possible that easily

[gritty nova]

I don’t think Teardown is? I always thought it’s made by a small indie studio

[tacit gull]

its bigger than ron

[wind gyro]

well then majority, id say its the size of ron i guess

[tacit gull]

Teardown was, now its decently big

they just got multiplayer working too

[tacit gull]

stalker 2

[wind gyro]

"most"

since i know some of these are infact on ue5

[gritty nova]

Well maybe, although Teardown is a sandbox game about destroying stuff so mod support is a pretty big part of it

And RoN is a complete experience by itself

[gritty nova]

…In my opinion…
saying this to avoid a drama

[tacit gull]

I mean teardown also has a campaign

maybe more than the one ron has

[nova forge]

RoN has a campaign, mod support, singleplayer, and multiplayer

id say thats a more or less complete experience

it also has crossplay 🤤

[copper dome]

Sort of

[gritty nova]

It has a campaign but it’s a sandbox game at its core

Although the campaign was really fun it was more of a scenario-type gamemode rather than a full campaign

[nova forge]

??? what is the difference between a scenario-type gamemode and a campaign

[gritty nova]

The lore, probably

[nova forge]

RoN has lore

😩

[gritty nova]

I’m talking about Teardown

[nova forge]

(oh)

jarvis, show me a chess blunder sticker

[gritty nova]

Teardown has lore but it’s there just so they can say there is lore

[copper dome]

Wait teardown has lore…?

[nova forge]

my least favorite lore is the type of lore where you can clearly tell it was only written so the devs can say "we have lore"

[copper dome]

How tf does a sandbox game about destroying shit have lore lol

[nova forge]

there isnt a game genre currently existing that cant have lore inherently

[tacit gull]

its the goofy ass story about 2 guys sabotaging eachother while you make infinite wealth

[gritty nova]

And a guy making robots to kill everyone or something

[nova forge]

this is like 25% of the lore of fallout new vegas

[tacit gull]

i havent played the dlcs lmao

[nova forge]

this is 50% of the lore of fallout new vegas

[gritty nova]

He also made some soda with drugs

[tacit gull]

conke

[copper dome]

I hate how you’re kinda not wrong

[nova forge]

the other 50% of the lore is yes man or something idk i never watched the movie

[copper dome]

[tacit gull]

death penalty

[nova forge]

loll

also consider that if a game doesnt have lore, the players might try to forcibly create lore and give the developers a headache

"this blue lamp in the 3rd floor of this apartment secretly signifies that amos voll likes blueberries, and this secretly means-"

[marsh lark]

Even attempting to go through the proccess of making mods available for consoles is a headache

Because who even wants to talk to Microsoft or Sony

[copper dome]

Agreed

But it is nice when it happens

[marsh lark]

If anyone has a question regarding mods on consoles, or the process, just go to #🔧modding-chat and read the pinned message

[copper dome]

You should give me picture perms

[marsh lark]

no

[copper dome]

I beg

[storm belfry]

Talking to Microsoft is alright, talking to Sony? Try to sell a blind man a picture

[marsh lark]

Either way, it is a pain in the ass no matter how you look at it. And ultimately if there is an issue with modding support for UE games, then there is a problem. Devs cannot magically snap their fingers and create a modding pipeline

[storm belfry]

I know because I've seen that games with mods are usually built off Independent Game Engines

[copper dome]

I don’t think anyone here was saying they could tbf

[tacit gull]

so how about that sdk

[marsh lark]

Currently no, but times before people often tried to use Arma as an argument, but the problem is that it uses a different engine

Furthermore Arma Reforger modding support is not even that amazing as people tend to say.

[copper dome]

How so? Genuinely curious as I know practically nothing about modding

[marsh lark]

Xbox has a mod size limit.

[tacit gull]

stalker 2 doesn't

[copper dome]

30gb which with the size of most mods is a fair bit

[marsh lark]

Many servers have to compress files, change/edit them otherwise it won't let them join the server

[storm belfry]

Stalker mods are small and stuff

[tacit gull]

On arma? Hell no, a ton of servers have like 50 gig of mods

[copper dome]

For now. Once they fully roll out the mod kit and add in full support they’ll likely spike in size

[storm belfry]

I've seen some of the load times and it's fucking abysmal

[marsh lark]

The server I was on didn't even have that many mods bro, and the owner still had to actually fuck around just to let Xbox players in

[storm belfry]

oh lord

[copper dome]

Every server I’ve seen on arma has a max size with all mods included of 10gb

[tacit gull]

I think WCS alone requires 15

[marsh lark]

A lot are generic pvp maps with some extra content

[copper dome]

That’s really all reforger has for mods currently tbf.

[marsh lark]

Nope

[copper dome]

It’s either funny shit like f1 cars or modern equipment with a few extras thrown in

[marsh lark]

Not exactly

We had some custom stuff there, I have no idea if that was because the owner was a dev for Bohemia directly, but we did have other stuff there too.

[copper dome]

The most like “extreme” mod I’ve seen on the browser is a couple functional jets

[rocky plover]

@vestal grove you got seen from between the trailer and the cabin, they can also see you through other small spaces

[vestal grove]

I know that's where I was seen and engaged from but the actual killing shots is what I am referring to. The guys shooting on the left of the truck had no line of sight when I died

[rocky plover]

between the wheels most likely

[vestal grove]

Yeah, but honestly that shouldn't be possible especially considering it was a pistol that did it

[rocky plover]

yea, it was a headshot most likely, since your helmet was already destroyed

[tacit gull]

It wasn't that guy, you could hear one guy going around the other side of the truck and you had one HP after you got lit up without a mag loaded

[chilly thorn]

just because its not meta doesn't mean its not fun

[tacit gull]

It is literally unusable

[chilly thorn]

If I can beat the whole campaign with it on hard I think anyone can

Im not even that good

Also underrated weapon of the day goes to the SPC9 amazing Smg

[gritty nova]

Underrated weapon of all time is the MKV

Even though it's not underrated

And even though it's extremely glazed over its stats

It's just fun to use

tbf I have never, and I don't want to ever view any stats for RoN

Like weapon damage, enemy health or armor

[marsh lark]

I would not say it is underrated

People know it's worth

[gritty nova]

Enemy placement

[gritty nova]

Second message

[chilly thorn]

every smg is underrated

[marsh lark]

oh yeah

[chilly thorn]

sucks cause they are not bad and insanely fun to use and they are sexy

[gritty nova]

Well, there are a lot of other guns that are very similiar or better than them

AR's are more effective because I think they are more powerful

[chilly thorn]

I think I made my point in the clips C:

[gritty nova]

smg's are more spray and pray

[chilly thorn]

The SPC9 with hollows actually can take people out in 2 shots so I wouldn't say the damage difference is that bad

[gritty nova]

Though I found the mp5a1 or something like that really fun to shoot bodyguards with

[chilly thorn]

I mean I wanna be honest

there is no real reason to debate which guns are better in this game

they are all good

also amazing pfp btw

[gritty nova]

Yeah, I just use different ones for fun

thanks

[chilly thorn]

Only problem with the Gas launcher

Those grenades do not bounce as well as gas grenades do

Bouncing them off a doorframe is hell

Granted its the difference between throwing something and launching a shell of it at like 300 mph

[gritty nova]

gas is ass though

Flashbangs are better

[chilly thorn]

gas is funny so...... its better

[gritty nova]

As you can just get a ballistic mask and a flashbang and you are safer than with a gas mask

[tacit gull]

ballistic mask looks mid though 😔

[chilly thorn]

Looks like afucking paintball mask lol

I lowk always assumed the ballistic mask was nigh-useless as it was in swat 4

[gritty nova]

Not really, once I threw a gas grenade and it glitched and started flying around my screen (it wasn't really noticeable, sometimes I just seen it flying for a second), but the worst part was that it was constantly making this annoying bouncing sound

I never used them again

[chilly thorn]

thats all your expierence with it????? lol

[gritty nova]

Not all but possibly the only one I remember

I'm pretty much a rookie I only have 18 hours in RoN

[chilly thorn]

Ok even though gas is a little broken currently I still think that its good especially with holding people down and easily being able to tell whos being effected or not

once gas is fixed I promise you yall are going to see how good the gas launcher is

• The Coughing Dialouge is rather funny

"OughAGhoGuhGODWHATTHEFUCKahgh"

[rocky plover]

well thats the thing, it was the most op thing before, and it was nerfed, so doubt it will be fixed

hopefully buff it a little bit though

[chilly thorn]

They said its bugged VOID is rather stupid but I have no reason to believe they would just lie

but a nerf was definently needed imma be honest but not like this

[rocky plover]

they said nerf was intended, but idk... whats going through their minds

[rocky plover]

yeah agree

cos before, gas made flash & stingers look bad, and now its the opposite

[chilly thorn]

The easiest nerf option would have just been gas mask suspects they are literally in the game just not used

[rocky plover]

there needs to be a balance between them

[chilly thorn]

Stingers need to be better as well

in this game they are basically just a worse longer range flash

in swat 4 they were fucking golden

[rocky plover]

or just nerf 1 aspect thing to gas, not 3 aspects to how like they did it.....

stun/sec, duration, radius. pick 1 not all 3 like how they did lol

[chilly thorn]

I remember when they were testing with gas filling rooms that coulda been sick

[rocky plover]

yeah i hate stingers so much, so i use flash for now, till gas (hopefully) gets buffed again lol

[frigid zealot]

In commander mode how do you change your teams outfits?

[chilly thorn]

Imagine they got advanced with it like windows and air vents effecting it

[rocky plover]

go to locker room, click on "self" and you can choose alpha, bravo, charlie, delta then customise tab

[chilly thorn]

Customization for yourself then change it where it says "Self"

[rocky plover]

ikr

[frigid zealot]

10-4

[chilly thorn]

I feel like we need another grenade option

but i really dont know what it could be

I dont see how 9bangs could be balanced

unless they have like a higher chance to just kill someone

[rocky plover]

i know its gonna sound not too far off from a flashbang but a 7bang or 9bang would be nice

[chilly thorn]

yeah but what I said

sounds like a nightmare for balancing

honestly once this game finishes their 3rd dlc I hope they start doing like "Minecraft" style of updates where they focus on fleshing out a mechanic

[rocky plover]

well make the flashbang work for blinding and disorient
while multibangs work for distraction and blinding as well but less radius than flashbangs

[chilly thorn]

like a nonlethal update or such

[rocky plover]

since flashbang is 1 big bang, while multibang is multiple smaller bangs

[chilly thorn]

9bangs are pretty sastisfying so they would definently be nice

[rocky plover]

yea 5/7/9 bangs are nice for immersion ngl

makes dynamic clearing nicer as well

[chilly thorn]

void give us the sledgehammer breaching tool and my life is yours

[gritty nova]

What about a incendiary grenade

[chilly thorn]

I dont think that follows ROE dawg

[rocky plover]

doesn't fit RoN tbh, since its a police sim, not a mil-sim

[chilly thorn]

people tend to forget that this game is more of an immersive sim then a tactical shooter

[gritty nova]

For all those possible threats

And evil guys

It's a joke lol, that would make people play the game more and more like cod or cs rather than a tactical shooter

[chilly thorn]

This games community sucks

but when you make a game like this it tends to attract some of the most annoying people ever lol

[gritty nova]

It's because it's just good

It's a good fps that's just not like all the others and people who don't get how you should play it just play it as they think they should

[marsh lark]

The community sucks just because someone said a sledgehammer would not be a good idea?

[gritty nova]

No he meant the CoD-like players

[chilly thorn]

thats not what I meant but you know what YEAH if you think the sledgehammer wouldn't be cool your an enemy of the state

its just a cooler breaching ram

[gritty nova]

I just can imagine how people would say that this is copied from R6 and how it would be used for killing civilians

[chilly thorn]

I was just thinking of it being a sidegrade to the ram

[marsh lark]

I mean, R6 did not invent a hammer, and it did not invent punching a wall with a hammer

[chilly thorn]

like lets say it breaks the door handle more commonly and its swung from the side of the door rather then infront

[gritty nova]

Yeah, and I didn't say it did, it's just that a lot of people, (those above mentioned annoying people) know R6 and a lot of people like to complain and they probably would say that

[chilly thorn]

actually no make the hammer do what the ram does now but make the ram knock the door off its hinges

The ram would scare more but you lose the door as a cover option

[marsh lark]

To that, I am going to say one thing. There is little room in today's age of gaming where there is something truly original never seen before. Companies and players should stop bashing each other over the fact that they take a mechanic and improve it. As long as it is not a 1:1 copy there should be no drama around it.

[chilly thorn]

I mean this entire game is just Swat 4, 2. So I dont think taking ispiration is a problem

[gritty nova]

"should" is the correct word here

[chilly thorn]

most of the levels and the artstyle are inspired by different media

For example a lot of levels lighting have an obvious david fincher inspiration

[wise quarry]

when are flip optics coming to ron

on vanilla no mods

[chilly thorn]

Soon

This year at least lol

[chilly thorn]

Its a joke dw most likely like around next or this month

[junior elk]

havent played in a while, did they nerf 7.62?

[rocky plover]

no

[junior elk]

hmmm

[rocky plover]

are on you hard by any chance?

[jolly verge]

Wdym by nerf exactly?

[junior elk]

feels like it takes more shots to put down a suspect

[rocky plover]

on hard ye

[jolly verge]

It's still oneshot on any mission on standart difficulty without extra health (except gas with JHP ammo)

[mellow valley]

Twisted nerve is so bad

Still a year I couldn’t complete it

[nova forge]

you shouldve asked if he meant 7.62x39 or 7.62x51

[rocky plover]

most likely he was referring to 7.62x51 since 7.62x39 acts same as .300blackout ingame and there's only 1 weapon with that calibre anyways

[nova forge]

the chance it could be 7.62x39 is still there, and thats concerning

what if we just fed the mf straight up misinformation

[rocky plover]

ye not denying it xD

[slow umbra]

Still though the slr is unreliable and underrated in this game

[nova forge]

unreliable and underrated?

un- (not)

reliable (the gun will work)

unreliable (the gun cannot be depended on to work)

???

do you like the SLR or not 😭

[rocky plover]

think he means its bad and barely used but ye sounded contradicting xD

[slow umbra]

Gun is weak and inaccurate making it unreliable also hardly anyone uses it making it underrated

[nova forge]

using the word underrated means that you personally believe that it deserves to be rated higher than it currently is

also i was under the impression that every gun besides buckshot has perfect accuracy excluding recoil

(no random bullet spread)

[slow umbra]

Not always true

Something may be rated under due to it’s poorness

[nova forge]

adjective

1. not rated or valued highly enough

Example: a very underrated film

[nova forge]

do guns have random bullet spread? i wasnt aware :0 (excluding buckshot)

[rocky plover]

no

[nova forge]

😭

i thought my teammates had bad aim because they were using extremely short carbines it just turns out they just couldnt aim

[rocky plover]

while it's not that good when compared to other weapons, its still better than the ddm4pdw imo

[nova forge]

the DDM4PDW is only considered "bad" because nobody can handle the recoil (my opinion)

i LOOOVE the DDM4PDW

[slow umbra]

well for a rifle it should be more accurate (recoil manageable)

[rocky plover]

yea it has 7.62x51 recoil which doesnt make sense lol

just like the ga416

[nova forge]

i can handle the recoil just fine, but i can completely see why it seems to just bounce out of your hands and off target

[nova forge]

every gun (excluding buckshot) has identical accuracy

[slow umbra]

Recoil control bro

[rocky plover]

i can handle it fine as well, what i meant is how shit it is

[nova forge]

uhhhhhhh skill issue+the SLR doesnt even have that much recoil

[nova forge]

is it the firerate? the ironsights? the muzzle device? wdym

[slow umbra]

Compared to other weapons?

[nova forge]

compared to .300 blackout weapons

[rocky plover]

recoil

when compared to others

[slow umbra]

Arn is extremely good such with lvar

[nova forge]

i see it as a tradeoff for having a comedically short barrel

[rocky plover]

yeah arn has barely any recoil while a weapon with the same caliber such as the ddm4pdw has 7.62x51 recoil lmao

[nova forge]

the only reason you would use the SLR over the .300 blackout guns is because 7.62x39mm has almost double the penetration

[slow umbra]

Well for full auto you wont notice penetration compared to smg

[nova forge]

so the trade-off is lower firerate+higher recoil for 1.75x more wallbang pen

[slow umbra]

Thats why i think smgs are the best

Or only a few

[nova forge]

you use SMGs to wallbang? 😭

[slow umbra]

Would you wall bang in irl?

I dont wallbang in a hostage simulator

[nova forge]

i only do it if its not S rank

because.. beanbags and pepperballs cant wallbang

[slow umbra]

Even on a lethal run a highest is either A or B which is still good

[nova forge]

ive never killed a hostage/civilian because of wallbanging

every time i kill a hostage is because the hostage runs in front of a suspect whos actively shooting

[storm belfry]

Huh

[nova forge]

the topic of conversation is discussing the viability of the SLR-47, discussing its wall penetration capabilities, and how the SLR-47 compares to other guns in the game

[storm belfry]

A DMR right?

[nova forge]

😩 does anybody even play RoN

[slow umbra]

Yes

[storm belfry]

I have dementia 💔

[nova forge]

no its the only AK in the game (for players)

[storm belfry]

Yeah I'd never fucking guess that

[nova forge]

AK-47 (SLR-47)

[storm belfry]

you want me to remember the gun I NEVER touched

[slow umbra]

Replace the dm4 with the honey badger

[nova forge]

nobody touches it cuz nobody likes the clunky 600 RPM and nobody cares about wall penetration 😩

[nova forge]

why not just add the honeybadger and keep the DDM4PDW

[storm belfry]

I use it occasionally... for my Russian larp

I blast suspects

[nova forge]

its unironically a good gun for greased palms hard difficulty because your bullets smash through the metal shelves like butter

[rocky plover]

I've used it a fair amount, it's not bad but outclassed by the ARN or LVAR imo

[nova forge]

its not outclassed, they just have different purposes

[storm belfry]

I shall run a mission rq

[rocky plover]

Well they deal same damage

[nova forge]

but SLR-47 has 1.75x more pen

its a trade-off

[storm belfry]

I prefer the MK16

[slow umbra]

And the slr with the as val

[rocky plover]

Who the hell wall bangs lol

[slow umbra]

Your different

[nova forge]

me because i want to finish greased palms in less than 4 hours

[storm belfry]

People who are psychic

[nova forge]

im able to smell suspects through the walls

[storm belfry]

He looks like SCARH but works like M4

[rocky plover]

Playstyles I guess xD

[slow umbra]

So you never hit a hostage…

[nova forge]

ive never hit a hostage (WITH WALLBANG)

[storm belfry]

Real

[nova forge]

ive only killed hostages in other circumstances

(my teammate gun bashes me and i cant see shit)

(a C2 straight up kills a civ)

a civ decides to full sprint into a firing suspect

[slow umbra]

Lockpick gun is king

[nova forge]

i use the lockpick gun too, on maps with door traps, but my teammates get impatient and just kick the door while im disarming a trap

(all 5 of us died to one trap)

[slow umbra]

mhmm

[storm belfry]

I've deadass just pick lock then creep up on it sweating bullets as I try the most dangerous game of minesweeper

[slow umbra]

They need to add a harder difficulty

[wind gyro]

hard exists

[slow umbra]

It feels like easy still

[surreal pelican]

Los Locos wins

Just see what they did to Esperanza on Narcos

• most of the UPF is untrained kids with guns

[nova forge]

modss

[dull nova]

They can call it "Cloaker mode"

[remote iris]

Can anyone help me with the mission IDEAS of MARCH

[dull nova]

What do you need when it comes to help

[remote iris]

Like its pretty hard for me since I kinda just started

[dull nova]

Oh, okay then

Ill give you some advice here, good advice

[remote iris]

Like can you go on a call with me and guide me kinda

Oh ok then

[dull nova]

Nah nah ill give you the strat

So, spawn stairwell, check under every door

[remote iris]

I check all doors

[dull nova]

Go for the biggest room first, the more open the space the more difficult

[remote iris]

I spawn stares

stairs

[dull nova]

Then make your way down the hallway, in and out of every room

Hug the walls like your life depends on it

Slow, methodical approach

[remote iris]

Ok so go for 1201 and 1204 first?

[dull nova]

Always mount up behind walls during apprehensions

[dull nova]

No no, the big open room first

[remote iris]

Ok

[dull nova]

Then make your way to 1201 and 1204

[remote iris]

Ok

[dull nova]

But when you do go to the big open room, make sure you hug that corner behind the door during the shouting

Flashbang that (i usually throw towards the corners) if there is even one suspect

I found that the guy with the m249 always spawns there

[remote iris]

yeah

[dull nova]

Thats the strat, let me know how you do

[keen tartan]

Anyone got some good combos for traits? Currently running negotiator (or veteran depending if I want to kill or try to keep everyone alive), nutri, SBAGS, armor

[remote iris]

Alrighty

[icy knot]

would it be a good idea to have my whole team have heavy armour due to it making us slow?

just discovered that i could change my ai teammates loadout btw

[remote iris]

Bruh I keep dying

The ui is in my way

[remote iris]

How do I get rid of the UI on my screen

[tacit gull]

bro the ui is one paperdoll in the bottom left of the screen what

[keen tartan]

you should def have heavy armour for ur ai teamates

They practically want to die.

[tacit gull]

you can press f3 to disable your hud i guess

[flat sparrow]

From the settings

[tacit gull]

settings screen if you're on console yeah

[keen tartan]

standing in the doorways while being shot at but not shooting back

[flat sparrow]

It’s not

[dull nova]

My buddy put it best

"Its like trying to teach a bunch of toddlers not to pull the pin on a grenade"

[remote iris]

bRUH I KEEP DYING

[tacit gull]

wouldn't be that hard considering they're kinda hard to pull

[keen tartan]

eh i mean if you tell them not to then yeah they will die

[remote iris]

Ok wait

@dull nova Do you play on PC or CONSOLE

[keen tartan]

but they would prob pull the pin anyways

[dull nova]

Console

[keen tartan]

console, look at his roles

He has xbox

[dull nova]

I love xbox RAISE THE PRICES!!

[remote iris]

Oh xbox

[dull nova]

This is factually correct yes

[icy knot]

😂😂😂

[keen tartan]

They stand still while being shot at and don't think to shoot back or to pull up their riot shield

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274076891959005340/1311840891371257936/tenor_7.gif

noooooooo

[dull nova]

My AI teammates have a tendency to not follow me and kill people I didn't even know existed

[remote iris]

Real

[keen tartan]

oh also, never tried it before, but if you tell someone to pull up their riot shield will they keep it out forever.

[dull nova]

I think my team is on like, max agro or smth lmao

[dull nova]

Test it out

[keen tartan]

damn u got the teens, I got the toddlers

[dull nova]

If i had adults they'd scream commands but ig they just wanna hurt people and not listen

[remote iris]

Lol

[keen tartan]

sounds like teens

[remote iris]

I desperately need playstation plus

[icy knot]

should i give them all different weapons or the same for all

[keen tartan]

different.

[remote iris]

Give em pepperballs