👮ron-discussion

[torpid onyx]

9mm is "usually" tolerable with JHP out of the smgs since it's a 2 shot limb shot

[final ember]

yeah

9mm AP gotta be the worst ammo of all time lol

[torpid onyx]

9mm/10mm/45 with AP is literally useless though cos AP is like 15 shots to kill thru l3 armour and like 8 limb shots with the round nose calibers

[final ember]

at least .45 ACP is somewhat decent against flesh

[torpid onyx]

with AP on limbs not really since it gets the 70% debuff

[final ember]

yeah obv, AP is shit for pistol calibers

9mm being the worst

12G Slug is over powered against any armor tho lmao

much better than the 7,62 nato

[heady spade]

Lots of posters. Assets. And detail on maps is ai generated

Very noticeable if you pay attention to detail. In 23mb/s its even worse with the posters on the walls having 3 hands and such

[bitter mason]

Honestly attachments are more style points than any actual practical use in this game
Dont have to min max your kit just go for looks

[heady spade]

Sight does matter a little tbh

[bitter mason]

Only attatchments that matter is like suppressors and light/laser
Sights too but thats personal preference really

[heady spade]

I rarely run suppressors tbh

[bitter mason]

Yeah it mainly helps with managing suspect stress not a huge game changer really

[heady spade]

I hate how suspects move

[pliant magnet]

Is there any use to giving the Lockpicking Gun to an AI teammate?

[wraith lance]

They pick faster

Works if you wanna free an inventory space for you, and you don't wanna use breaching methods

[pliant magnet]

it just feels like the one I gave the gun never uses it and it's always a random teammate

[wraith lance]

Depends on who's at the door
What you can probvably do is ask a specific team mates to do it

So you command one guy to do something

But dunno how to do that

[pliant magnet]

When I tell my squad to search and secure, do they check doors for traps? Especially in "Sins of the Father"?

[jolly verge]

Yeah but they won't use it

[jolly verge]

Nope, all they do is secure any weapon on the ground and arrest surrendered civilians/suspects

[pliant magnet]

so they just don't open any doors at all?

[jolly verge]

If someone or something behind locked door - yes

They will just stand

[pliant magnet]

does that also mean trapped doors?

[jolly verge]

Idk, never had them going through trapped doors via search and secure command

[upbeat shore]

@winter wyvern i wish they kept this tone and art style.
Great job.

[narrow geode]

they really should add those helmets, vests and clothing

they also should make those gloves available for us

[opaque zealot]

they really need to get rid of the ai slop

[tacit gull]

they're "outdated"

[narrow geode]

outdated yet they look a 100 times better than the gear we have

especially the vest

[valid raven]

I don’t think it even has anything it’s just a slug of solid ceramic

It shatters when it hits the lock but still generates enough force to break it

Normally police shoot the lock out although in game it rips chunks of the door off not really how it works irl

Still useful to open the door without having to actually go near it

[wraith lance]

Yeah, whatever magic is at stakes : it's a good tool

[unborn echo]

substance over style

[wraith lance]

What sort ?

[tacit gull]

I think you can say that about every aspect of the game

[junior atlas]

wtf is Ides of March. i keep doing 90% of this level and then walking into a some kind of fixed machine gun emplacement that just mows down my whole team

i need to call in an air strike for this nonsense, this is ridiculous, what the hell

and now the game deleted all my loadout presets and customization again, awesome

[violet zephyr]

Is it possible to get shot but not having anything on the hit indicator ?

[jolly verge]

Yes

Ceramic or helmet shot

[violet zephyr]

Looking at my recording when I died I took several shots and then I went down but the hit indicator was clean

So I thought it was a bug

It might be a stupid question but can we get headshot by the AI ?

[jolly verge]

Yes

[violet zephyr]

I put that situation where I died in the media channel in case anyone can tell me what happened
Just to be sure

[jolly verge]

You have red torso

[violet zephyr]

I literally did not see it lol

[jolly verge]

Your front plate broke and you start taking health damage

[violet zephyr]

Now that I rewatch it I can kinda see it but not much

That's good to know always take a good look at the hit indicator especially if I "got lucky"

[junior atlas]

what are people bringing for non-lethal loadouts? a beanbag shotgun and a pepperball pistol?

[jagged carbon]

Flash launcher

[junior atlas]

so few shots with it though

like plenty of maps you will get less than 1 shot per suspect

[jolly verge]

Default 6 + 11/13/15 depending on vest + 4 from M320 is enough for every mission in game

Not to mention pacifier and negotiator traits

[junior atlas]

if my officers would stop going straight from content to crisis instantly 😭

[jolly verge]

Stop kill every single suspect, simply as that

[junior atlas]

i try not to kill them but that one guy with an M249 on Ides of March made it very very hard not to, he kept murdering all of us

why the HELL is that in the game lmao

it took me like 7 tries to do that stupid mission. i even died to a trap on an already-open door, that was fun

i had a couple great rounds arresting lots of suspects and then we'd all die to M249 guy

[junior atlas]

just had my whole team die 'cause enemies just don't surrender when hit with dozens and dozens of nonlethal rounds 🙃 so either your whole team dies or your whole team is in therapy

[sly fractal]

Ho

Hi

[astral lance]

whos the new community manager

[main onyx]

Has there been any discussion about moving less lethal shotguns and Pepper all guns and rotary launches into the secondary slot or another all together? Having them in primary slot especially for real world ops in situations like the ones in game is exceptionally stupid.

[main onyx]

If they have a gun, they get shot as soon as they are doing anything other than holding on to it.

[main onyx]

A 320 with gas grenades and flashbangs and gas grenades in my slots and my squad along with the taser. Other than that not a thing. I have barely seen any legitimate use for the less lethal guns in these missions at all.

[astral lance]

They both guzzle oil

Eat metal, and are wire running

[astral lance]

22lr

[tiny sorrel]

the AK

[junior atlas]

I've mostly seen success with the bean bag shotgun til that last run, guy just absorbed it and didn't surrender

I've tried the flash launcher and it seems about the same as the shotgun except you get 1/8 the ammunition

[main onyx]

Yeah I just mean bringing it with you and having it take up a primary slot where you should have a rifle is kinda stupid as far as I'm concerned. If I have a guy that's not posing a threat immediately but not surrendering I chuck a flashbang at them or something, or gas to distract and taser or something

[junior atlas]

yeah a Taser might have helped

Bean bag shotgun as long tactical would be nice

or as an ammunition type instead of a different weapon

[main onyx]

If they made it so I could bring the less lethal shotgun or Pepper ball as a secondary gun or in the 320 slot it would make far more sense. Having them as a primary is tactically stupid

[charred birch]

Shooting pepperballs at a terrorist who is actively trying to kill you with a PKM is kind of funny, yeah 😭

[junior atlas]

guy is actively hosing your team down with an M249 and you're still expected to non-lethally subdue him

[main onyx]

Nah, I've played the game enough that the scoring works perfectly fine if you shoot them and they are a threat

Well I guess maybe you won't get S

But that's just stupid

[junior atlas]

tell that to my officers in therapy

[main onyx]

Haha.
I dunno after 10 years of doing this shit for real I guess the immersion is kinda lost of me when the options are to do something tactically stupid, or something excessively tactically stupid.

No doctrine in the world prioritizes trying to save a suspects life before anyone else

[junior atlas]

maybe not, but the game punishes you a lot for not doing it

[main onyx]

Yeah.
Same with where you fail cuz you didn't arrest that one suspect because he was unloading an AK at you.
You want me to back out of the room and negotiate? F that.

[junior atlas]

in Commander mode, at least

[main onyx]

It should be try and arrest the subject alive if practical

[junior atlas]

and you can still get A or A+ with lethal, but you'll put all your officers in therapy in Commander mode that way

[main onyx]

Yeah.

[void jasper]

419

[main onyx]

That's why I play with gunfighter and no crack cuz at least the experience is more realistic and there is variety in the ways suspects and civilians will react

[void jasper]

420

[junior atlas]

are those names of mods, or ..?

[main onyx]

Yes

[violet zephyr]

Damn I'm at the elephant mission listening to the calls
It's frightening how
It just is

Btw is the ballistic mask worth using ?

[celest osprey]

sorry but does anyone know how my boy on xbox can add me so we can play tg

[uncut widget]

No difference

[crude prism]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[silver olive]

the 911 calls in this game are heartbreaking 💔 i just heard the one where the student started praying before she got shot

[odd pond]

What’s the max caliber a ballistic shield can stop in RoN do we know

[tough veldt]

Miniscule difference between it or the flash/gas mask

If youre going non lethal just use the gas mask
Otherwise its up to you

You just need something on your face

[stone bay]

yep yep ok we get it

[torpid onyx]

is it not invulnerable?

[lost inlet]

There isn’t a limit for that.

[drowsy chasm]

Yo this game would look so good with the last of us 2 type blood pools

[odd pond]

Idk I’ve been hit through it but might’ve been from behind or on legs idk

[odd pond]

Oh okay thank u

[torpid onyx]

you can get hit on your shins/feet or arms (if you're holding your gun out) or your shoulder/hip region of you're not perfectly straight on

standing exposes your shins, crouching without moving covers nearly everything, crouch walking exposes your feet/ankles

and doing freelean crouching covers nearly everything too

but getting shot in the limbs really isn't very deadly because of the 70% damage reduction with AP ammo since all suspects use AP

[ionic drift]

hey so im new to the game and I was wondering what loadouts I should use for my ai teammates. Can someone link me a guide (preferably a comprehensive one)o r explain?

[pliant frost]

Check that, it can help you a lot

[torpid onyx]

it really isn't rocket science

the only significant thing to mention is that the AI are fire rate capped depending on the distance and I don't believe it adjusts for whether they're using an SMG or AR so "technically" it's better to just use an AR as the "lower recoil/higher rpm/more ergonomic" guns or whatever offer no benifits to the ai exept for LARPing (roleplay)

then choosing the ARs then you esse totally have 3 choices, 5.56, 300blk and 7.62x51 and "techncially" because the ai does not care about recoil/fire rate, higher power is just better

but in reality any of the rifles will work very similarly because the swat ai in this game is incompetent and will die anyways, don't trust them to actually kill anyone

you can also just have fun and choose whatever you feel like though, like giving your AI a bunch of mp5's as if you're the SAS in the 80s

[pliant frost]

Use shields on your ai teammates

It's often a life saver

[copper cypress]

Am I the only one who feels that the game updates only result in more and more bugs?

[pliant frost]

Nah, you're not the only one

[copper cypress]

I'm curious how much game development teams pay their coders. Why is the quality of games getting lower and lower?

[pliant frost]

Void dev team is pretty small though

[copper cypress]

Since the update, SWAT AI can't even get to the second floor in the Hunger Strike level.

[pliant frost]

It's something like that

Void: new update, new bugs (a lot of bugs)
Players: Complain cause game is unplayable
Void: Okay chill new update (after a couple of months ofc), bugs fixed, but new more comes out

Vicious cycle

• they don't listen to players hardly at all

[copper cypress]

I really don't understand why they suddenly added two completely meaningless stacking areas on the stairs.

The game could consider lowering its price.

[pliant frost]

I don't care about the price to be honest, I just want a playable game

[copper cypress]

I spent over 800 NTD to enjoy a game with a quality equivalent to only about 400-500 NTD.

Even lower

[pliant frost]

AI is the main feature of the game and it doesn't work as it should

[pliant frost]

Bro what's ntd

[copper cypress]

My country's currency unit lol

[pliant frost]

I get it but what is it called

Oh Taiwan dollar

[marsh lark]

AI has underwent so many changes. Now I am not entirely sure why the SWAT AI works half of the time and the other half it doesn't, but I will admit they were severely overpowered before this update. They would practically win every engagement no matter what.

[pliant frost]

They're good only after your death lol

[marsh lark]

The only thing that would happen is that they would get shot once or twice, but still they could withstand 3-4 engagements before going down, and that is still considering the fact that you go run & gun

[pliant frost]

I’ve had so many situations where they got stuck in random weird spots, or when I told them to breach a room and they just stood there doing nothing, even though I kept spamming Z lol

[unborn echo]

yeah

it allows you to tank one more rifle round

to the face

[copper cypress]

It's worth it. However, generally speaking, it's unlikely that a bullet will hit your head.

[marsh lark]

I believe that is general problem with pathing and how it is done on maps, you face the same issue when you tell surrendred suspects/civies to move to you.

It fucks up and they go all around the map

The only way to bypass this weird bug is that you command them to move "here"

[unborn echo]

small tip, swat ai will always have unlimited ammo as long as you give them just one slot in ammunition for primary (except shotguns, they dont get unlimited ammo with shotguns)
if non-lethal equip all of them with m32 flash launcher
if lethal equip them with any 300 blackout rifle
the rest equip them with as much utilities as you need, may it be flashbangs, gas, stinger, wedges, anything that you find fit for missions
as for armor, always equip them with heavy armor and ballistic mask/gas mask, as for plate material its up to you whether you find steel or ceramic helps them survive better

[marsh lark]

I think that more civilian killcount goes to SWAT AI and Suspect AI

atl east when it comes to my own experience

[violet zephyr]

Wait I can change the loadout of the AI ?

How do you do that ?

[marsh lark]

in the arsenal selection

[violet zephyr]

Arsenal selection ? Where is that ?

[marsh lark]

Wherever you change your outfit or weapons

in the locker room

[violet zephyr]

You mean in the loadout screen ?

I don't see where

[stone bay]

In the police station suring the interval(s) of missions, look around for lockers and a desk. Interact with it, look around on your screen and you can fully change your AIs clothes, full appearence, weapons, etc

[violet zephyr]

Make sense so far I just have to find it
Like I'm on those screens but I can't find what I'm looking for

[stone bay]

Heres a short 10 minute youtube video from a very popular ready or not youtube, theres some good videos on the channel

[stone bay]

https://youtu.be/a42hQ1IIYUE?si=WDsDVINPnIU2Zc-S

[violet zephyr]

Thx I'll check that out
Also I'm most likely blind AF

[stone bay]

its all good, he has tonnes of really good videos on tips, modding if thats your thing, and tutorials and things like that, check out his channel if your interested

[violet zephyr]

Aw yep I indeed was blind I found it now

Thx for your help

[stone bay]

lol, all good

[marsh lark]

sorry for not responding, I am playing a game so I respond in between

[violet zephyr]

No worries

[reef anvil]

regarding the hanged man achivement, can I just let my AI do most of the work with guns (modded)

and it'll still count to the achivement

[marsh lark]

what is the objective for the achievement?

[reef anvil]

Complete hide and seek using only taser, flashes, and bash on standard or higher

[marsh lark]

Pretty sure it affects AI as well

[reef anvil]

welp i'll see once this is all over

[reef anvil]

I got it

basically you're locked to the specific weapons but AI swat is not

[marsh lark]

interesting

[quasi coral]

I'm surprised you can't find it honestly

[torpid onyx]

nah we ram

c2 is fun but the ai take like 15 seconds after the explosion before they throw flashes and it wastes so much time the suspect has already recovered from the explosion and run away

[vague locust]

c2 balls deep

breaching shotgun used to be the bomb for pushing trapped doors, but they just had to nerf it since it was objectively better and faster than c2, smh

[lost lake]

What are some funny songs to listen too while playing ron? Like songs that do not fit the theme. Like barbie girl or smth

[steel torrent]

how in the world npc die to my grenade launcher (flash)??

[tranquil plank]

When this game goes on sale Im buying cz holy this game looks cool

Being in a 3rd world country is not fun 💔

[lost lake]

Get all dlcs too

[lost lake]

Really unspecific saying that

[tranquil plank]

1 US Dollar is 18 for our currency

[lost lake]

India is a 3rd world country

Same with sudan

It can be anywhere really

[tranquil plank]

I dont say my country cz racists exist

everytime i say it people say racist things to me

[lost lake]

So you let the haters win?

[tranquil plank]

No, i prevent them

[lost lake]

And let them win

You let them get to you

Just ignore it?

[lost lake]

There is no such thing as preventing haters

If they cant hate on that, they will find something else to clown on

[tranquil plank]

I apprecciate you trying to be helpful

But I dont care really, they cant say something else

[lost lake]

Well they will?

[whole plume]

Any ETA on the attachment updates? I wanna update my setups but waiting for new update to do so

[prime spear]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message @opaque zealot whats the name of the vest mod?

[tranquil plank]

wait does this game supporting modding

even steamw orkshoprosp?

[prime spear]

yes

Nexus.mods

[lunar sluice]

Since some months i'm making self-challenge to finish again the game but with no mates, no bot, just my operator in solo (in the hard mode). I'm approximatively at the half and just noticed there is no steam challenge about that.

I'll not stop it, but it sad, cause that's very challenging, just here to notice it ^^'

[tacit gull]

No

[prime spear]

thankfully

[brave lance]

Is there an M4 or M16 in vanilla RoN?

[tacit gull]

steam workshop is the best modding platform

[prime spear]

Closest thing is a mk18

[brave lance]

Ok

[regal maple]

Yall think RoN will ever release a "patrol" mode? like Police Simulator or patrol officers or whatever? i think with the current physics from ron it would make an actually fun game, like lspdfr from gta sort of, i mean just as i said police sim, or patrol mode or just an new game

[brave lance]

Probably not but would be cool

[prime spear]

Probably as a DLC that will cost your left ass cheek and 20 bucks

[tacit gull]

No

[prime spear]

Lets go, i got bread

[regal maple]

Would be worth it imo

Can npc's hear u thru in game chat or not? like react to your voice and whatnot, not "listen" to it but if they hear u they will attack quicker

[marsh lark]

no

And since this is a SWAT game I doubt we would get a patrol DLC or something, but then again I have no idea.

[regal maple]

alr so there really isn't a diff between in game chat and for example calling in discord

[regal maple]

I'd doubt a dlc aswell tbh, but another game COULD be possible, no?

[marsh lark]

This studio has 50 ish devs

I doubt they would want to make a completely new game at this current timer

time

[regal maple]

I knew it was a little but 50?! i thought it was like 500 minimum lmao

[marsh lark]

no

[regal maple]

thats honestly insane

[wind gyro]

void is an indie company

[regal maple]

guess so but still thought it was more

[whole plume]

I think they should make a Patrol DLC with a Patrol uniform and Patrol missions, and also give us option for no long gun/tactical

SWAT are also regular officers

[marsh lark]

Again, very unlikely.

[whole plume]

So its not ludicrous

Unlikely, but not ludicrously impossible

[regal maple]

oh yeah, i see what u mean, instead of "open world" its just missions aswell?

[whole plume]

Yeah

[marsh lark]

The point is that this game was built upon the tactical genre. Meaning it is supposed to be SWAT or just tactical units responding or taking care of specific situations and in this genre it does it's job pretty well considering the competition. However it would take a lot of resources, time and money to create a DLC that practically requires something completely new this game does not have anywhere.

[regal maple]

Im pretty sure we are all aware of that, this is also not something we, atleast i think should happen right now, but after re-playing the missions multiple times it starts to get boring so a "new" thing would be good, and im my opinion a bran new gamemode would be way better, to be honest i also reckon it'll increse players by a ton

[marsh lark]

Thing is, Void would enter a market where there are dozen of games that have exactly what you want, whereas there are not many games representing the tactical genre like RoN does

You can open up youtube or steam and see 50 games that all tackle the patrol officer aspect

[regal maple]

Yeah,i mean im just saying that the current gun system, and just all the systems in general are actually good unlike most unity games

[whole plume]

Atleast the feature for no long tactical and long gun then

And a Patrol uniform cause us console ones cant mod them in

And atleast give us more small house missions like EOTE

[marsh lark]

I get what you want to say, but the general answer anyone would give you is that you can just disregard your primary and long tactical. Whereas for the uniform I am not entirely sure, because again when it comes to DLC's, Void has always stayed to tactical outfits.

Who knows though

[regal maple]

you mean just ur pistol then?

[whole plume]

Well most real patrol officers dont get a long gun so yeah

[regal maple]

What i do is just remove ALL my rifle ammo, if i feel like doing gun only runs, or keep like 2 mags in my rifle incase it gets messy

[gritty dome]

this is so fun, finishing the campaign and then going "everyones an enemy" route

[wind gyro]

counter terrorist

[gritty dome]

why does valley of the dolls suddenly feel easier

[uncut widget]

Got nerfed for casual CoD Black ops 7 players or you just got used to it

[slow nexus]

I thought it felt easier

I still have nightmares about my first s rank clear

[whole plume]

Idk, it feels still pretty challenging solo but with AI yeah

I hate Neon Tomb most for difficulty, mainly cause I cant see shit through those lights and the damn music sucks

[gritty dome]

I have nightmares about Port Hokan and Relapse

Jesus christ that 2nd floor was pure hell

[slow nexus]

For Relapse I either get put down or breeze through it. There isn't an in between for me

I HATE Port Hokan though. I finally cleared it on hard this weekend

[jagged carbon]

I beat the game and dlcs with mostly a to a+ scores with a couple bs what do I do now?

[wind gyro]

s rank

[jagged carbon]

I have to lose my sanity?

[slow nexus]

Do an ironman mode run. I am going to attempt my first one this weekend

[west shale]

oddly enough hide&seek was not too nightmarish...the real fallujah of this game is greased palms every time i play with friends its a whole nightmare lmao

[silent perch]

I mean the dev’s have already had said this but if anyone knows i would just like reconfirmation if you had bought the deluxe edition will future DLC’s be free

[wide verge]

any chance we get a patch/update this year?

[wind gyro]

most likely no

[slow nexus]

Yeah greased palms is my least favorite by a mile

[west shale]

mission of suffering and agony🥀

[heady wedge]

This game is sooo fucking good for me lol.

[eager jackal]

When will they fix the graphical bug that makes everything look like it's from 2004?

[boreal stratus]

love this game, but still wondering if there's ever gonna be another DLC

its been almost a year now since the last one

[heady wedge]

Lol I'm becoming a dad soon so I just bought the dlcs I fucking love em. The yacht and the oil rig and mansion are very fun. I like playing solo.

[boreal stratus]

yeah they're a blast!! congrats on your upcoming addition to the family

i'm just lookin for some new content to play lol. three missions go by quick, even when they're replayable

[frozen hazel]

Bro can they release another patch alrdy it’s been like 2 months

[frozen hazel]

Why u say that? If not this year then when?

[astral lance]

please no

patches are as useful as a chocolate teapot

[marsh lark]

There will most likely be no more patches unless something important game breaking shows up, which should not. The next update will be in Q1 2026 most likely

[latent crescent]

lucky with the ai

[opaque zealot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/5948

[slow nexus]

on god😂

[austere rain]

its fun if played correctly

you just gotta use ur team as meatshields

[west shale]

^^^

[midnight gorge]

any tips for beating greased palms on hard difficulty?

[frozen hazel]

The achievements are still bugged

[wheat crescent]

Do you all think Ready or Not shotgun ammo types would actually be for usable if you could load shotguns slug rounds into your shotgun that is half filled with buckshot round or is that just me?

[plush mulch]

is CS gas already fixed?

[void jasper]

There’s slug ammunition, right?

[crude prism]

Working as intended (nerfed into dogshit) 👍

[void jasper]

Yeh they should buff it back up

[wheat crescent]

Yes,but Im saying if you start reloading slug rounds into a shotgun it should still fire buckshot rounds after you reload slug in it as the buckshot is not being emptied out of the shotgun before hand

[void jasper]

Gotcha

Yeh they should add that it’d make shotguns more viable

[plush mulch]

wait so ive not been playing this game for 5 months and theres nothing that has changed? 🫥

[plush mulch]

yea maybe in 2027

[crude prism]

That's not how shotgun tubes work

[void jasper]

Hopefully fall of 2026

[crude prism]

Gas was intentionally nerfed, they didn't change it back because they don't want to.

(10/10 game design)

[void jasper]

That’s too bad about cs grenades they would’ve been useful too

[odd pond]

Gotta use the shield more now that I know how it works lol

Tyvm for that

[faint saddle]

Hey, does anyone know who voices Dr. Schwarz in 3 Letter Triad? He sounds familiar.

I wasn’t able to find him listed on the IMDB for RoN, but my money is on Richard Epcar, a voice actor prominent in Skyrim.

[old kernel]

Idk if this will get taken down but I think that Gerard Scott is supposed to represent Adam

[slow nexus]

I really hate it on hard. I feel like there's only like 2 or 3 strats that are viable. On lower difficulties it isn't too bad

[faint saddle]

Like. Adam, the first man, Adam? Eve, knowledge of Good and Evil, Garden of Eden and all that?

Alright, I’ll bite. Keep going.

[old kernel]

Idk if its against the rules tho ik religious discussion isn't allowed

[faint saddle]

Well I don’t think you’re allowed to proselytize, but if you’re just discussing the themes or allegories you think are present in the story, that should be fine.

[old kernel]

I dont wanna clog up the discord with images because I made an entire sideshow for it but I think that Ready or Not has its theme and allegories around Adam and eve

I sort of connected that Gerard is covered in foliage and is naked which made me connect the 2

[faint saddle]

Okay, points for the visual connection, I wouldn’t have put that together! What else? I guess in his case, finding out about the First Cohort and what happened to Judge would be Gerard’s eating the apple?

[old kernel]

I personally was messing around and connected this first when I saw the bare legs promo art for Ready or not

I cant send an image but I believe that the promo art is meant to represent birth. The USIA birthing the MLO / thr MLO birthing Judge

It sounds more insane as I write this but one of the rewards for competive hide and seek is quite literally a golden fig leaf which is supposed to represent Adam and eve

[faint saddle]

Cool! Anything else? I assume uhh.. What’s her name? Evelyn, Raskin? She would be Eve then?

And the USIA would be Eden / God?

[old kernel]

Yep

Also if I remember correctly Gerard is crying over a woman named eve in a audio log

Its a pretty on the nose clue to me

[old kernel]

Like when Adam and Eve were banished from eden like how Gerard and Raskin were banished from the USIA and they were given JUGEments

I assume the serpent is supposed to represent the Spider organization

[faint saddle]

Would Judge then be their “child”, a Cain or an Abel? Or is he more akin to an angel, an envoy of the USIA—the flaming sword to repel Man from ever entering Eden again?

[old kernel]

They lowkey flaming me on the reddit but its okay

[old kernel]

Both in a way. Ik that Raksin and Gerard definitely are both involved with the creation of Judge and is metaphorical their "child" and the USIA claims Judge as an angel to bestow judgement as they see fit

From what Ive read ik God punished Eve to experience child birth pains and be under Adam's reign for disobeying them and I think its a very loose metaphor for Raskin's violent beliefs as she hates thr USIA (god) and the spider (the serpent)

[faint saddle]

Tell me about the Spider being the serpent / Satan.

[old kernel]

Someone just told me I need to be put in an institution

[faint saddle]

The USIA is trying to silence you for speaking the truth! 👀

[old kernel]

Raskin saved Evelyn from the spider. Atleast its indicated. From what we know the spider is in bed with FISA and most likely the USIA this is the funny part. Some instances of the story of Adam and eve never claims the serpent is Satan and to me that indicates that USIA and the spider are connected

[faint saddle]

I think a better fit for Satan would be the MLO, the lily people. I think they’re supposed to have split off from USIA, if I remember rightly, and are now independent. The Spider may simply be a USIA project that’s since grown out of hand—or is working perfectly as intended?

Despite the heinous nature of their operation, they seem to run smoothly and keep other criminal elements in-line to their interests. Maybe the Spider org is just one more way the USIA has attempted to control the world.

[old kernel]

I forgot to mention
The MLO uses a Mariposa lily to represent their organization. Mariposa lilys are meant to represent maternal love and is often used by survivors when they are abandoned/abused by their mothers.
The MLO uses the Betsy Ross flag that has 13 stars and 13 stripes during the American revolution. In the Bible 13 significances is rebellion. What is the scripture number for the fall of Adam and eve? 3:7 13 Hide and seek

[old kernel]

I thought about that. Maybe the organization is meant to represent Satan and the people involved are quite literally fallen angels and Judge could represent a archangel

[faint saddle]

Alright—I like your reading. I can always go for a good Biblical analogy.

[old kernel]

😭 thank you for listening I know how crazy it sounds

[old kernel]

Apparently hes voiced by Jonathan David Bullock

[faint saddle]

D’aw nuts, I had that wrong then. Ah well.

[plush mulch]

btw anyone know best secondary to combine with shield?

[wraith gale]

mkv

[tulip garnet]

five seven

[plush mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[faint saddle]

THIS MAN DOES NOT HAVE GIF PERMISSIONS

POINT AND LAUGH. MA HAHHAHAHAHA!

[gritty dome]

they should add a mode where WE plant the bombs

[faint saddle]

I could go for them getting real creative with some DLC levels—maybe one where the majority of points just comes from collecting evidence and piecing together the puzzle of that one particular level. Something short but different.

Maybe another could have majority civilians, but suspects with hidden weapons among the crowd? Although then I guess you could just tear gas everyone indiscriminately.

Maybe D Platoon could go after a vigilante? The objective of the mission is to stop a suspect from going through the level and killing other suspects?

[knotty oar]

Playing through Ron for the first time doing iron man played 24 missions on hard and will say it’s absolute bs like not the accuracy and increased damage it’s actually way better than standard tbh if anything I think you can take too many hits on standard but the enemy awareness is just unrealistic ash. I’ll be looking at a guy what feels like a mile away and he’s turned in the complete other direction but the moment the enemy is in your line of sight they fkn flick around an know where you are 😐 but yeah so switched to standard and it’s wayyyy better tbh and just did greased palms..

Got a B first time around but accidentally just killed Adam’s so without that prob a B+ or an A. But how in the actual world I’m supposed to get an S and do that non lethal while every enemy has the possibility of shooting me through the crack past a postal box is a task for another day 💀😭😂

[faint saddle]

My advice, I gave the AI pepperball rifles and heavy armor, one with a shield and all his ammo in his pistol. I took in 10 Flashbangs and sent them in ahead of me.

The poor Los Locos on the receiving end were probably deaf-blind for a week afterwards. 😭

Still very hard! But I find life is a lot simpler when you can toss flashbangs over rows of boxes and whatnot.

[knotty oar]

True high flashes prob would do the trick thanks

Liking the story so far tho tbh I like how they connected everything right now I’m just going for the watch atm from Ironman

But I killed so many dudes on palms all my guys are stressed lmao

[faint saddle]

Go forth, my son. Deliver unto them… Judgement.

[knotty oar]

👌🗿👌

[fickle idol]

I kinda just maim all the crooks

No mercy

[knotty oar]

How I felt just now on the school shooting level

That’s first 911 call depressing ash

But I like how they got the bombs timed and how they make the shooters roam adds that real sense of urgency

[glass saffron]

I just unlocked it a few hours ago. Wishing you luck on your run

[latent crescent]

none, let the person behind u deal with it

works flawlessly

got me through hard mode rustbelt like nothing

[torpid onyx]

the only actual objectively "good" pistol is the five seven the rest of them are not even in possible competition with the 5.7

[faint saddle]

Hey, stupid fun question.
Whaddaya reckon is the “canon” loadout for Judge?

Is it just the Default Mk18 and Glock? Is it what appears on the title splash? Or do you think it’s something more obscure—maybe he might prefer the M9 or the M45A1 due to his time in the GWoT?

I know we don’t get a lotta characterization from the guy, but it’s fun to speculate.

[winter tusk]

six seven?

[wind gyro]

Q1 of 2026

[glass saffron]

I think maybe the M45A1 probably because of his time in the GWoT like you said. Not sure about his primary though.

[green abyss]

From my perspective, Judge was a Ranger. So either the M9 or Glock.

[slow nexus]

Anyone have any advice for how to get the sleeper agent achievement? That one is brutal

[lost inlet]

probably G19 with just laser since it's what the game automatically gives you when you first getting into the game.

[brave lance]

I think it would be when you use default loadout so Mk18 with holo and a flashlight G19 with a laser 2 flash 1 sting 1 C2 1 taser 1 wedge

[void jasper]

Less weapons more maps

Game’s got plenty of firearms, the real appeal is in the variety of maps/scenarios

…

Chat goes into hiding

[narrow geode]

chat died a long time ago Mr R1

[void jasper]

Says the guy posting in,

Cmon

[void jasper]

This game has a high level of replay ability

I blocked ya just to save space in the screen

My gut tells me this new year we will be granted two more maps

But those maps need high replayability as well…

[whole plume]

MKV .50 pistol or FiveseveN

[prime spear]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message @winter tusk he looks like you

[winter tusk]

HELL NAH LOL i wish

[dusk lake]

am i limited to push to talk only? i play on console with a mouse and keyboard and i can’t seem to find a setting that switches push to talk to open mic

[heady wadi]

Wouldn’t it be cool to have a different kind of Glock? Like a 36 or something that’s chambered in something other than 9 millimetre, similar to the USP but in a Glock configuration

[void jasper]

Less guns more maps

[heady wadi]

Love getting kicked by randoms when they specifically make a public game

[faint saddle]

I wouldn’t mind some more handguns, personally.

Amos Voll sweatin’ bullets in the morgue today though.

[feral stone]

I want a 10mm pistol to accompany the MP5/10mm

[heady wadi]

Yesss

Something new would be amazing, 31st of October we got told about the multi attachment rail system anddd radio silence from there. Not even a release date, wonderful

[silent perch]

They need to buff it first

It’s hits like 9mm

[quasi coral]

I need hybrid sights authwjfjd

I'm so excited for the attachments expansion that my gaming time has been cut down heavily just because nothing can top this

[native palm]

I really wish the game had more frequent updates. I love the game and the DLC, but I find myself playing the same base maps. I have used a lot of variety, but I could use some fresh unmodded gameplay supported by more frequent updates. love the game though

[vale needle]

why is the swat ai so abysmally bad

sometimes they ignore my commands, sometimes they just dont move, sometimes they watch me get lit up while they are “watching my six”, its just frustrating

[austere rain]

its not that bad

i have 400 plus hours

the game is meant to be hard some people dont get that

u have to command them correctly, they do bug out and it seems it will always have some issue wit them

[tulip garnet]

play solo then

[heady wadi]

That’s why actually being good at the game helps, using the AI as a crutch won’t help you in the long run, they’re good most of the time

[dim leaf]

Ive been doing non lethal for so long ive forgotten how good it feels to blast someone at close range with buckshot

[pastel dune]

It’s so amazing dude I know

[uncut widget]

I completely forgot about c2 when I started doing S ranks, and after I was done, OMG it felt so great to throw off the damn door at someone

[solemn patio]

I feel that we need a glock 17 lowk, full sized pistols forever

[dim leaf]

i take the risk and routinely blow people up on S rank attempts 😭

[dim leaf]

kolibri when

[solemn patio]

EW COMPACT PISTOLS

[dim leaf]

the kolibri is a LITTLE more than compact

[solemn patio]

(I hate compact pistols with all my heart.)

[solemn patio]

Micro pistols

[dim leaf]

im just waiting for them to add a 700 nitro express

literally rip people in half through doors

[solemn patio]

Im waiting for them to add a s&w model 500 and a magnum research BFR

[dim leaf]

the friendly fire of doom and despair

[solemn patio]

imagine using the BFR as a shield gun and taking arm damage when you onehand it

[dim leaf]

im still mad about how you cant use tazer with the shield anymore

like i get it thats an absolutely broken combination but cmonnn

[solemn patio]

45-70 BFR specifically

[solemn patio]

YOU COULD USE IT WITH SHIELD?

[dim leaf]

yeah but that was a while ago

[solemn patio]

MP7 shield combo when

[dim leaf]

or a 300 magnum shortbarrel

one use allowed not because of ammo capacity

[solemn patio]

300 magnum semi auto with like a 7.5 inch barrel

insane muzzle flash and flashbang effect

[dim leaf]

this is like the automatic .50 cal assault rifle the cartel tried to make 😭

[solemn patio]

you mean HMG right?

that implies 50 bmg is an intermediate cartridge like 556 which is disturbing to me

[dim leaf]

i dont remember, but i remember seeing some news about the cartel trying to make a full auto .50 cal rifle, obviously impossible, but imagine

[solemn patio]

I believe it was semi auto only

[civic fiber]

you mean the M2 Browning right…

[solemn patio]

No he doesnt, I saw it gang

[dim leaf]

no, shoulder fired

if you were even able to engineer that, youd only be able to let off a few shots before essentially falling over

[solemn patio]

Unless you made it so ungodly heavy

[civic fiber]

theres a shoulder fired 50. cal from Barrett themselves so it’s possible most definitely

[solemn patio]

the shoulder fired 50 cal in question being the m82 or m107, a semi auto anti materiel rifle

[civic fiber]

they make an Anti Aircraft one too

[solemn patio]

You need a better bolt to handle full auto id believe

[solemn patio]

that was a prototype called the m82a2, it was bullpupped

[dim leaf]

correct me if im wrong, but isnt it a single cartridge reload with a cap like the one that exploded on kentucky ballistics?

also, the cartel tried to make it full auto

[solemn patio]

That is the RN-50, the Barrett M82 is a semi auto gang

[dim leaf]

ohh okay, either way, imagine that full auto

[solemn patio]

by better i mean heavier, if you accomplished making it full auto it'd weigh as much as a m2 browning and be impractical as fuck

[civic fiber]

he was single loading it because he was using expensive ammo, the gun has a magazine which blew downwards when it exploded

[dim leaf]

ohhh alright, i thought it was exclusively that kind of load

[solemn patio]

The RN-50 is a single shot 50 cal

[solemn patio]

that load was a SLAP round, basically sabot rounds

[civic fiber]

i believe Kentucky Ballistics had a M82 i believe

[dim leaf]

which is an 84 pound gun, shoulder firing such a thing would be unbelievable

[civic fiber]

yeah but it was hot meaning it had too much pressure in it so that’s why it exploded

[solemn patio]

he blew up a m82 but the RN50 was what he nearly died from

the m82 was his torture test with super hot ammo

[civic fiber]

ohhh my bad

[solemn patio]

RN50 was an accident with sketchy ass ammo

[solemn patio]

all good mate

I love saying mate despite being american

[civic fiber]

Traitor!

[solemn patio]

[dim leaf]

treason

to be fair im a napoleon lover while being american, im no better

[solemn patio]

I like to think im turning into an australian or brit

[dim leaf]

id take aussie any day of the week

[solemn patio]

A DOLLARY DOO

[dim leaf]

converting to britishism is the ultimate treason for an american

[solemn patio]

but I LIKE TEA

[dim leaf]

if youre from the south, just drink sweet tea

if youre from the north or anywhere else, just drink your coffee

and you get a pass for beer if youre from wisconsin

[solemn patio]

Deep south

and I still drink my tea hot

[dim leaf]

treason squared

[solemn patio]

and cheese right?

[dim leaf]

obviously

[solemn patio]

Im gonna go to sleep gang

[dim leaf]

alright gn

[solemn patio]

MY KN MEEHURTS

[dim leaf]

😢

[solemn patio]

MY KNEE FEELS LIKE SOMEONE STABBED IT

[dim leaf]

cramp?

[solemn patio]

Idk

I did move my legs alot

[true panther]

we did multiple tries to s rank hide n seek

chemlight'd every suspect we cleared weapons of

but we're always missing 1 evidence wtf

its like the gun fell out of the map

[dim leaf]

do you have the highlight accessibility setting on?

[static relic]

Who needs rules of engagement when i have a p90 and a dream

[tulip garnet]

install pkm mod and be happy

[twin karma]

Is this game still a censored waste of money that I'll never be clean from?

[winter tusk]

just mod it LOL

[twin karma]

its about principle

[tacit gull]

The censored parts are never going to be uncensored

They might hopefully be touched up but the old stuff isn't coming back in any official capacity due to ratings

[jaunty juniper]

Even the mods don't bring it back. I think Uncesored or Not had to remove a couple things, and then the blood is censored too. Something I noticed while playing the pre-Ronsole version is there is no blood spatter coming out of the bodies when they're shot. Like when you shoot a suspect, there's a blood spray that shoots out in the old version. That's gone in the current version. Also wounds and blood pooling look like shit. Even with Visceral Blood.

[winter tusk]

visceral blood and BBB. try that combo

[tacit gull]

Those are exactly as shit as they've ever been, nothing changed

[jaunty juniper]

Yes it has. I have video proof of the blood spatter being removed.

[tacit gull]

And i can open up the game right now and prove it hasn't

Blood splatter and the blood dripping on walls is still there

It is just extremely buggy and it can go through walls

As for the wounds they got messed with way before the censoring, they looked best only when they were first released

[jaunty juniper]

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about blood spatter coming out of the body when you shoot. It's gone.

[tacit gull]

I dunno about that, wounds do still show up atleast

[jaunty juniper]

Like I said, I got video proof. Also didn't say wounds don't show up, just that they look worse. They also will disappear after too many are created, like the game can't render say 15 so after 14, they one disappears while the other shows up. Sometimes new ones don't even show up either.

[tacit gull]

Wounds not appearing has been a thing for some time, i haven't paid attention to notice them dissapearing from old bodies though

Might be part of the optimisations they made but it would be nice to turn off if that's the case

[winter tusk]

idk man i once emptied a whole clip into my buddys leg. bro was a literall bloody corpse

[lost lake]

Just got the Developers Ruined Watch!!🔥

[astral lance]

im from south london

[pliant frost]

Nvidia Reflex on or off?

I have AMD gpu

[jolly verge]

You need Nvidia card for reflex, amd have anti-lag option

[jaunty pebble]

Why are so many mods saying "go to hell void" in their desc I havent played in a good minute

Im guessing I missed something and im sure its not the console censorship

[mighty hemlock]

Should I give my ai teammates the M32A1 flash???? I have my doubts, it's basically a 1 shot surrender with no need for precise aim, but then I get blinded by my own teammates, and I have a feeling I died to the friendly fire once (Even though it's a less lethal)

[jolly verge]

There is a anti-flash goggles just in case. 40mm flash deal only 0.15 damage at max if exploded within 1m radius

[mighty hemlock]

Blinded was the wrong word, I ALWAYS use them goggles, just they tend to direct hit me and get my camera all dizzy and woozy

Making me not able to see anything

[jolly verge]

Well, that the price you pay for the most overpowered less-lethal in-game

[mighty hemlock]

So should I or should I not give the thnk thunk to teammates? The question wasn't really answered

[jolly verge]

Yeah, it's good

[mighty hemlock]

Alright

[mighty hemlock]

Imma crashout bro 🥀🥀

I had all the suspects cuffed

All the bombs defused

That Zahir guy arrested

And then my game crazhed on THE LAST CIV

And was playing that on hard mode

[faint saddle]

It’s always the last one you need that something happens. I was trying to clear Carriers of the Vine last night for the S-rank—got the whole map locked down save for one last suspect, who blasted me with a shotgun and killed the run.

[noble pasture]

Why can't we see Gerard's Face?

USIA even went as far as giving us a redacted pic of someone else

[narrow geode]

budget ran out so they couldnt model the face

[noble pasture]

Why the fake pic then?

[tired jungle]

Didn't gerard work for the government or something

[noble pasture]

Except its some old white guy in the dossaire

[narrow geode]

because they thought nobody checks those anyways so they just put a random picture

[noble pasture]

Gerard is clearly of color in game

[tired jungle]

[noble pasture]

But yeah, I can see USIA trying to throw us off the trail with fake papers

Another shitty fake puts Gerard as 79 year old

I say Gerard is 50 at most

[prime spear]

@winter tusk

[loud sage]

anyone know if you need to arrest all dead hostiles in a mission to get A rank? if so then my game is bugged and i cant arrest some people when they are dead on valley of the dolls

[jolly verge]

Cuffing dead suspects doesn't give you any points and grade depends on % of max score you got

[winter tusk]

sup

[prime spear]

I feel terrorizing

[loud sage]

i secured all evidence and got all soft objectives and i got a B

[marsh lark]

Doubt USIA goes against Judge.

[faint saddle]

I have my suspicions the USIA may be directing us behind the scenes somehow. There’s nothing we come across in our missions that they don’t want / aren’t comfortable with us seeing.

[solemn patio]

Are civilians fucking stupid

They dont even try to run away when they get the chance

Or is it Stockholm syndrome atp

[latent crescent]

if they really wanted to they could 360 noscope judge on the spot

[solemn patio]

People would definitely question it

[latent crescent]

i mean considering IRL circumstances, nah

[solemn patio]

Judge wouldn’t just get randomly killed on the streets, I bet his identity is protected

[latent crescent]

too many sheep

[uncut widget]

Power of restart mission comes in

[latent crescent]

well shit

[solemn patio]

I wish there was a dedicated break window function instead of shitty melees

[latent crescent]

shoot the windows

[solemn patio]

But thats less bullets for the civillians and suspects

[latent crescent]

for the civillians 😭

[solemn patio]

Look if they get in my way they deserve it

I aint the one aiming for them intentionally

I just shot a suspect so fast he didnt even realize he died

He still said his voiceline

[cedar radish]

quick question would RoN run on these specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7520U with Radeon Graphics base speed 2.80 GHz 4 cores
RAM: 8 GB DDR4 (2 slots)
SSD Disk
GPU: Integrated AMD radeon graphics dedicated GPU memory 512 MB shared gpu memory 3.6 GB GPU memory 4.1 GB

[solemn patio]

Some civ just slammed a door open after being super loud and made me jump jn my seat bro

Abt shot her ass

Just did sins of the father a rank second try 🫩

[latent crescent]

based

[solemn patio]

I was on fucking casual.

I gotta do ts again..

Fuck it im playing cod4

[jolly verge]

As well as killing every single suspect, correct?

[loud sage]

yeah

[loud sage]

i know you cant kill people and get an s rank but does it also get rid of A rank?

[jolly verge]

Grade depends on % of max score you got, I already told ya

S - 100%
A+ - 99-95
A - 94-90 and so on

[loud sage]

i secured every evidence, soft objective, suspect and civilian there was on the mission and i still got a B

[faint saddle]

Did you secure every suspect and civ alive and upright?

You get more points for arresting them mostly unharmed. So you’re not gonna get an S-rank by blasting off people’s limbs with a shotgun even if they’re still alive when you check.

[jolly verge]

Stop killing every single suspect, simple as that

[loud sage]

im trying to get A rank would that still matter?

[jolly verge]

Ofc

[void jasper]

So few tactical players

[faint saddle]

Yes. I believe it’s 5 points for simply securing a suspect or civ—35 points for securing them alive and conscious.

[tough veldt]

Incap and dead suspects are worth the same points

Dead civilians get a big deduction loss

[tough veldt]

Report the bodies to get the points, killing them won't net you points unless you also report the bodies.

Live suspects are worth more

[loud sage]

I reported all bodies which it said at the end

[tough veldt]

Was Amos voll dead?

You need him alive

Theres also 2 optional objectives

And dont forget to nab the weapons

[vast garden]

does anyone know like a map layout of rust belt besides the ones you find in the briefings

[radiant musk]

whens update

[torpid onyx]

you can't get A rank if you kill everyone on valley and some other maps

you can only retain A rank and kill all suspects on maps with a lower number of suspects

[deep sentinel]

Theres a cap on how many suspects you can kill or incap before you lose A rank

[torpid onyx]

also I mean clearly if you're killing everyone and have no point deductions and got all evidence, objectives, civillians etc then clearly you can't obtain A rank as you found out because you didn't get A rank

[latent surge]

I only host because some people just can't play the game without being a jerk. And I swear it's justified at least once a day.

[copper cypress]

Does anyone know how to clear the second floor of the Hunter Strike level? SWAT AI can't reach the second floor at all right now

[wraith gale]

i throw a flashbang from the bottom of the stairs to the top balcony area (be sure to go all the way up the stairs because you cant shoot through the holes between the rails).

once i clear the first room, i throw another flashbang into the far right room and clear.

[dim swallow]

i wonder if we'll get a "good samaritan" feature where civs may be armed, especially since the security guard in Elephant has unused voice lines of him engaging suspects

[copper cypress]

This is a bit difficult for me. I've been relying on SWAT AI before🥹

[copper cypress]

As a result, the civilians opened fire on you. You killed them, and the mission failed💀

[torpid onyx]

hpw do you rely on swat ai for anything except door breaches they suck at everything else

[dim swallow]

i mean that can make the game much more unpredictable, which is really needed for a game like RoN

[copper cypress]

They can shield me from bullets lol

[viral grotto]

We have a question should i buy the deluxe edition or the basic version? (I will be playing this game for the first time)

[ruby pivot]

Basic

If you buy the deluxe you’ll have too many extra maps to do if you don’t like it and you’d be paying an extra $10

[dim leaf]

What did yall think of the los sueños stories maps

[viral grotto]

What about the 3 guns in the deluxe edition? i will not get them

[wraith gale]

everyone will get them in a future update (late 2025 early 2026)

[viral grotto]

ty

[final ember]

Legit the best addon in the game

That shit is what RoN is about, not these extreme terrorist threat scenarios

[last sparrow]

you mean the ones where its like why the fuck are they sending five specialized cops instead of a dedicated counter terrorism unit

[final ember]

For example yea

Los suenos stories seemed a little more believable

[last sparrow]

me when they are sending us to some cabin in the woods that clearly is not in city limits (aka out of our jurisdiction

[onyx swift]

Penalties everywhere

[last sparrow]

with trigger happy randoms fr

swear some of these people have never heard of the word "detain"

[spark haven]

TBF swat can be sent like anywhere as they are not normal cops who have certain places to go

[last sparrow]

they do have jurisdictions in the US, that is why there is differences in County vs City SWAT, I think US State Troopers also Have their own tactical teams

and obviously federal agencies have their own tactical teams things like FBI DEA ATF etc

[spark haven]

Not as major of a difference as 1 might think though TBH especially as RON is big city they are probably around that entire area. Also some swat are state or federal not just town/county. But in game they are city bound mostly and the cabin I want to say is not that far from the city so they would still be good to go there

[final ember]

you can tell VOID really regrets making the game revolve around this one city

they consantly push the boundaries with maps like the Oil rig, carriers of the vine, the yacht etc. etc.

[magic hearth]

LAPD SWAT are one of the few SWAT teams that have maritime capabilities so it's not out of reality even though likely it would be part and parcel for USCG

[fringe jacinth]

Any idea when the next update will be out ?

[cedar radish]

.

[tacit gull]

From what i know integrated graphics is instant hard "No"

[cedar radish]

Oh i see

[latent crescent]

stolen valour is probably the best free map in this game

its harsh, its merciless, its amazing

it doesnt hide anything

[tacit gull]

If fast food didn't force its difficulty it would also be a pretty decent map, kinda wish we had more buildings in game like it

[mighty hemlock]

How do I get the Meladonin achievement?

Should I just arrest 5 suspects? and shoot everyone else

[dim leaf]

Honestly i agree with this, the lss maps seemed alot more realistic than a swat team taking down 30 military armed people while still keeping difficulty💀 not that i dont like the more extreme maps, its just nice to see a change of pace

[dim leaf]

Personally stolen valor was a little too crowded for me but I agree its still really good quality

[latent crescent]

thats what makes it great, very impoverished areas are overcrowded

it gives the most immersion out of all the other maps alongside elephant and neon tomb

[dim leaf]

Thats fair, in my opinion, dorms on home invasion or leviathan on dark waters is most immersive

[hard geyser]

is pvp still planned to the game ?

[spiral pawn]

Does anyone know when the next update would be?

[tacit gull]

No confirmation that it's been axed

[marsh lark]

The plan is for Q1 2026

[tacit gull]

did the devs say there's no plans for end of year?

Last few years had a christmas update

[stable kernel]

Will Santa be bringing the gift of functional LPVOs and multi light PEQs? Only time will tell.

[severe shell]

do yall like to give an ai teammate a flash launcher?

[tired jungle]

Yes

[severe shell]

all of them?

[tired jungle]

No

[severe shell]

im experimenting with their loadouts cause i wanna S rank hied and seek but its lowkey tough

[tired jungle]

Yes

[mighty hemlock]

Civ included?

[tired jungle]

No

[mighty hemlock]

Understood. Thabks for the information

[pliant holly]

is my game tweaking or there's not a single lobby in the game

[light maple]

Do yall prefer stingers or flashbangs

[marsh lark]

Depends on the map

If you have lots of props it's stingers all the way

data center, hospital etc

[light maple]

Ahhh I see thanks

[granite peak]

could anyone pls tell me an everything customisation mod that works currently

[loud sage]

how do i join a public server that doesnt have 500ms ping

[solemn patio]

Lowkey sw model 29 when

[solemn patio]

Get lucky

[red rose]

hey guys does anyone know the audio sound for the typing on the tablet in multiplayer lobbies

it sounds so good

[river cobalt]

Anyone know when the next Update might be coming?

[marsh lark]

Not entirely sure, but it should be somewhere around Q1 2026

[faint saddle]

Hey, what AI traits would y’all consider most “optimal” for S-rank runs? Do you find it worth it to double-stack traits like Pacifier, Intimidator, or Nutritionist?

[river cobalt]

alr

[jolly verge]

For S best are 2 negotiators and/or 2 pacifiers, before taser nerf 2 intimidators were the best for a zero damage taken runs.

Depends on trait: negotiator, pacifier or intimidator must have to be 2x, while nutritionist gives only 5% more health with 2x stack (25>30%)

[faint saddle]

Thanks a million, man, I’ll have to give it a try. Neon Tomb has been kicking my butt all week. What was the taser nerf?

[jolly verge]

Suspects now gain stress when you shoot from the taser ( just like any other gun) + range cut from 20m to 10m

No way to keep suspects stress threshold before activation, so intimidator simply stop working

[verbal river]

i dont mind the amount of ppl on stolen valour its more so why are there so many traps in the worst places, and i dont mean for me i mean for them

like at least half the time i try and do stolen valour i hear one of the enemy AI set off their own trap upstairs, trapping the entrances i understand but itll be the most random room i could take two more doors to enter through instead 😭

oh also friendly AI seem to get especially lobotomised on stolen valour from my experience

[glass heart]

stolen valor doesnt fit with traps tbh

how are these hoodlums getting fragmentation grenades

its not a big deal to check all the doors but narratively it just doesnt make sense to me

[faint saddle]

Yeah I didn’t enjoy it. They have the appearance of a street gang. Not to say gangs can’t get creative, and they’re definitely incentivized to leverage what they can against us considering they so blatantly killed a cop, but the only place that oughta have traps is the upstairs apartment, with the veteran.

[tacit gull]

It makes a lot more sense than say something like rust belt

[faint saddle]

I don’t think Rust Belt has traps though.

I’ve always thought it’d make sense for the Hand—Neon Tomb, Relapse—to make tripwire booby traps.

Not street thugs.

[dull hedge]

hey yall my fog is gone

even tried running safe mode, still gone

any solutions chat

[pale shoal]

did you download any performance mods or anything? Those arent Pak files and change actual game ini files.

and i know most of those mods get rid of fog

[dull hedge]

uh

no

does reshade count

because that runs on safe mode

[solemn patio]

I finally A ranked sins of the father

Good enough 👍👍

Just lit my teammates up for good luck

[idle coyote]

I have a problem with the rust belt trophy where I can only use the 357

I did it and I didn't get the trophy

[hushed smelt]

Ded

[jolly verge]

Grade below C, used lockpick, swat ai have shields in their loadout or you used something else

[ripe kettle]

Wait the lockpick disqualifies the achievement?

[jolly verge]

Yes, only swat ai can lockpick

[faint saddle]

Gang, I believe I’ve been radicalized. I am now part of Ballistic Shield Gang. This enormous hunk of metal—this bulwark of justice— shall be the instrument of my divine wrath upon Los Suenos.

[main rose]

Do anyone know how to get "a way out west" achievement?

ı finished only using revolver but i havent got it

[jolly verge]

#👮ron-discussion message

[main rose]

does battering ram considered as a weapon

[jolly verge]

Using anything in your hand but magnum will invalidate the run

[main rose]

oh ok ty

[jolly verge]

Swat ai can use anything, but not shields

[main rose]

ım doing solo on multiplayer

no ai

[jolly verge]

It's better to have bots in case your right leg got hit and there is a locked door without extra ammo to shoot it down

[main rose]

ok thanks a lot

[tidal sleet]

battering ram and breaching shotgun

The shield is worthless if the glass gets shot

[jolly verge]

We talking about the way out west trophy

[onyx swift]

Yeah, I had to clear the stairwell mostly alone and they would barely shoot back at enemies on the first floor breaching doors and firing

I got kinda lucky for the Hard S Rank on that map

Especially when their shouts from outside kept alerting the Suspects

[vague isle]

did they add anything new?

[wind gyro]

since when

[vague isle]

damn.

[valid raven]

why do so many people think that that you cannot kill anyone if you want s rank

[jolly verge]

Because you can't?

[valid raven]

No unauthorized killing like a suspect simply having a gun is not enough to kill them by doctrine they have to be pointing it at someone also a feature that would be nice is spray paint to mark off rooms

[valid raven]

I’ve killed suspects and still got an S rank

[jolly verge]

Mods, simple as that

[valid raven]

You don’t lose points if you shoot when they are pointing there gun

Otherwise you will

[jolly verge]

Correct, but you gain only 5 points instead of 35

[valid raven]

You gut more points if you do subdue them though

[jolly verge]

So no S

[late prism]

Well that shouldn't happen

To get an S rank you need the maximm possible score

[valid raven]

Maybe it was an A

[late prism]

That means no dead officers, all evidence, all weapons and no dead suspects.

[valid raven]

And i am mistaken

Is A still a high ranking

[late prism]

The other thing it might be is them playing dead

[valid raven]

Having to cuff dead bodys was not always a mechanic

[late prism]

It is coded that an enemy can pretend to be dead if they get hit but not killed or incapacitated (I've seen it most commonly with C2 blasts)

[valid raven]

I mostly use C2 for intimidation

[late prism]

So if it says "dead" and then you restrain them and they turn out to be not dead it still counts for the S rank

That's likely what you had

[valid raven]

Is it standard practice for SWAT to cuff dead bodies

Also irl there is no set size for swat teams

[late prism]

I mean idk if they do but I can see the logic behind it

Stops them from getting it and proving a threat

[jolly verge]

I mean he would notice that dead body become alive after cuffing him

[valid raven]

Although 5 is a pretty typical size but they normally have multiple teams on a raid

Not just one

And one team is usually in charge of executing people out of the building

am I the only one that like when I cuff someone I often put them in a separate room that’s already been cleared so they don’t get in the way by accident

Because they offen surrender in a doorway or something and they could get hit by cross fire

[late prism]

I'll sometimes order them to move but I won't carry them

[valid raven]

Also see people cross my fireing line and it’s quite annoying thats how you get shot by accident

[late prism]

Takes too long if you do carry them imo

[valid raven]

I don’t carry them very far

Just out of the way

[late prism]

Yeah but the length of the animation and the fact that you can't do anything whilst carrying them is the problem for me

[valid raven]

Door thresholds are the most likely place you’ll get shot

[valid raven]

Well, you don’t move them until the area is secure

I don’t mean the entire building just the area

[late prism]

Someone shows up during that time (which you are expecting if you're clearing firing lines through the door) you're dead

[valid raven]

I still think we should get spray paint for marking walls and dooes

[late prism]

We have glowsticks for that

[valid raven]

You mean they’re not for lighting?

[late prism]

Yes

They're for marking rooms you have cleared

[valid raven]

I thought they were

[late prism]

You'll see the AI use them

[valid raven]

I mean, I only know one marker

And it’s used by disaster relief

before they go in they draw a circle on the door and once they finish, searching the building they cross it out to show its clear

so if you just see a circle on a building with nobody actively searching it, something went wrong in the search most likely in that situation a structural issue that made the search unsafe

[late prism]

Yeah I've seen something like that

[valid raven]

That and it’s not uncommon for them to put the date and time search was completed

[late prism]

With SWAT mid raid though it would be unlikely you'd have time to take a hand off your weapon to paint symbols on a door regardless of how simple it is.

That's why we just drop glowsticks

[valid raven]

I wonder if like another disaster happened before the paint got cleaned up

I imagine eventually the owner if they can get their house back, they probably clean up the door

[late prism]

Likely wouldn't be their biggest concern but yeah

[valid raven]

Some of the technology police have now is insane

They have a robot dog that can open doors

Although they are quite expensive I believe they are made by Boston dynamics yes that company

[late prism]

Yeah they have a lot of things

[valid raven]

That video of them trying to knock it over was actually a test

[late prism]

Would make sense Boston Dynamics make some of the best robots

[valid raven]

To see how easily it could be knocked over by a person

[wind gyro]

im asking since what date are you asking for

[somber tiger]

when will they add Multi-attachment Rail System?

[jolly verge]

[somber tiger]

Sarge why did they implement this now? do you have a statement lol

[jolly verge]

It's was about to come out with DW update, but guess what

[quasi coral]

Probably Q1 of next year

I CAN'T TAKE THIS SHIT ANYMORE

[green abyss]

[broken trellis]

Hi guys, quick question. Did they removed the censorship?

[jolly verge]

No, why would they?

[marsh lark]

No, and it will never be removed. the details that were changed had to be done in order to comply with regulations from EU review board as well as many other review boards as well as Sony and Microsoft for the game to be released on consoles

[broken trellis]

Maybe to make the game like back to what i bought 3 yrs ago

[broken trellis]

Awwhhh man

Is there a mod to bring back the features?

[marsh lark]

There is

[broken trellis]

Where can I find it

[marsh lark]

https://www.nexusmods.com/readyornot/mods/6126

[vague isle]

oh? recent

[wind gyro]

the last update was lss so i dont know what you mean by recent tbh

[vague isle]

oh cool

LSS, anyway how do i know what mods are active and what mods arent?

[wind gyro]

like on mod.io

or nexus

[vague isle]

cool

[sly fractal]

Hello

[sharp lagoon]

Ok, have a question to active RoN players, will this be helpful and needed or fully optional?
https://readyormaps.com/

[dusk ravine]

No idea why but err, my mod menu is VERY limited

[quasi gate]

Any mods newer than August 7th up to today are typically still working

Gameplay mods such as No Mercy for Terrorists was not impacted by the LSS Update

[tranquil plank]

i js buyeid this game what do i do when i open

[slow nexus]

I am having this issue where suspects who are surrendering are getting stuck on doors or they are moving really slow when I order them to either more to me or a specific location. Anyone have a fix for this?

[tacit gull]

It's broken pathfinding, if they start walking in place its because they're trying to go backwards and forwards at the same time, you need to give them the stop command and have them walk back to the point they want to get to before you can order them again

It's AWFUL

[slow nexus]

Okay I'll try that. I am going for the sleeper agent achievement and it is so painful. They literally just get stuck in doors and basically kill the run

[tacit gull]

It's probably better you get a multiplayer friend to do it with

[slow nexus]

yeah I asked lfg last night and nobody wanted to

I don't blame them lmao

[tacit gull]

i might be down to do it

[jolly verge]

Why not just kill everyone?

[slow nexus]

I was trying to but my rng just kept being bad and I wss just unlucky

[slow nexus]

bet. I'll be on in a bit if you're still down

[tacit gull]

shoot me a dm i guess

[solid void]

Yeah that seems a bit tough

[quasi gate]

Are you referring to after their surrender?

There's a collision bug with doorways and some suspect models when you call them to you

There's no workaround for it at this time

[paper fern]

My AI team has no self-defense instincts. They just stand infront of the doorway while a bunch of bullets fly into one of my fellow officers and I can't even complete the level on S rank. The postal service is impossible!

[valid wadi]

The trick is to just do it yourself, you’re better off going in alone and leaving your squad at the front instead of risking it

[jagged carbon]

I’ve beaten every mission in the game with A+ to B scores using ai squad on standard difficulty. Lost only two members.

Only got two missions S ranked and one was by accident. Guys set off one of their own traps and gave up before I even entered the building (one where your catching the guy in a ghillie suit)

[slow nexus]

Yeah I was but I got it

[quasi gate]

You could try out my Better Swat AI. I increase their acuity, so they are more likely to engage properly at longer distances

[merry crest]

Anyone knows how the string sounds are looping? I´ve put every string solo together but it doesn´t sound like in the ost

[steady verge]

My 5 cents and current state of the game for the Devs to read if they so are inclined. This game is dying. No exageration, no clic bait. "oh but we have so many playing!..." special private groups do NOT show a game's current health, but public games does. And this game is dying. At an 20:40 Friday night and there is not a single server up. WORLDWIDE.

I get a server running, and the sheer stupidity that I encounter is just staggering. People shooting each other for fun, others killing everything, INCLUDING CIVVIES. The amount of moronic diatribe I've seen is beyond measure.

The only saving grace for this game is the private groups like GLID and others, where I can find quality invested players that actually want to play this right, but the VAST majority of the player base hate's rules, doesn't care they are there, and couldn't care less about objectives, they just want to shoot shit.

I don't know what you did VOID, but it's killing your game.

I've said my piece, my conscience is clear.

[marsh lark]

So 3/4 of your complaint is that you are upset with people not abiding by your rules when you host a public lobby, to that I can only say that you find a group of people you want.

The whole "unable to find any lobby", that is sometimes an issue for some people where no matter what, no lobbies are found in any region and to my knowledge no fix has been found

People can do whatever they want in the game, there will never be rules as people have their own freedom.

[steady verge]

You listened to nothing to what I said... Ok. So next update, do take out objectives, grading, and make it open world, and make it BR. There fixed it for you.

[edgy linden]

I tried hosting a lobby Eastern server and couldn't get a single player for almost an hour

(with mods tho, but that's why I play less cause I need discord now)

[tacit gull]

This is more of an issue with epic matchmaking being utter dogshit rather than people not actually playing

[marsh lark]

Your complaint was about players not abiding by your rules, and you not being able to find lobbies.

These are your two complaints.

I explained both. And none of these two options signify the game dying.

This game and this genre was and always will be about tactical gameplay, and some people like to just fuck around and have fun which is good. The mood in this game does not always have to be serious, me and my friends also sometimes screw around.

[tacit gull]

The thing is he does kind of have a point that would hit if it wasn't phrased in such an arrogant way, the game simply does not incentivise teamwork or actually giving a shit as compared to running around like headless chickens due to how unfocused the design is

Everything from how the enemy Ai reacts to threats, to how the loadouts work, to how players interact with eachother

[ruby sentinel]

I'm not no mod or anything but from what I see basically your only complaint is that there's no public servers, and if you host one or manage to actually join a server, they're filled with people fucking around.

This is true but it doesn't mean the game is dying, it just means the serious playerbase is found elsewhere (this discord, mentioned private groups, people simply playing with their friends)

[marsh lark]

Right, but it is up to the players to figure out which way they want to play. The game does not force you to a specific playstyle. Because if that were the case, precautions would need to be taken to direct people towards a specific playstyle. The deal is that it would cut off people who do not play tactically or something

[marsh lark]

Do not mistake what I said as some form of moderator response or something. I have knowledge about the game considering how long I have played it, as well as my enjoyment and participation in this genre of games and that was my opinion. To the higher extent it was objective since the complaints do not have anything to do with the game dying or loosing playerbase. I am simply talking as a community member to a community member.

[tacit gull]

It's almost like it's a tactical shooter and that's what they usually do, just like a cooperative shooter usually wants you to cooperate

Thing is that now that we have difficulty modes... you CAN play however you want, on casual

That doesn't really excuse the game lacking the funnelling into it's gameplay loop

[marsh lark]

Right, I know what you want to say. But it goes back to square one which is: Should the game be diverse and let people do what they want, or force them to a specific playstyle where any other playstyle will be significantly dificult to do.

There are things Void could do to force people to play tactically or cooperate to a big extent, of course. But the game is in my opinion in a solid state when it comes to how people choose how they want to play.

[tacit gull]

In my opinion the choices in playstyle for RON are about as deep as puddles aswell since most of said choices usually just devolve back into walk into door and shoot enemy, pray he doesn't 2 tap you to the head

As opposed to giving the player opportunities to work together to outsmart enemies

Then again that would also mean having to do something about friendly AI which doesn't cut it even for the state the game is currently in

[tropic venture]

You outsmart them with gadgets and map knowledge

[marsh lark]

SWAT AI has seen some degradation whcih I am sure will get fixed. This all boils down to SWAT AI either being shit or being john wick

[tropic venture]

And commanding your team

[tacit gull]

Take for example other cooperative shooter tropes, such as classes in DRG that play off eachother, or enemies that require multiple players to defeat such as in left 4 dead

[marsh lark]

However breaching is almost always the same

Right but those are coop shooters, which is a completely different thing.

They have their own genre

[tropic venture]

I mean it's just the reality of swat irl

Situations can build more stress

[tacit gull]

Right now THE most effective strategy in RON is walking forward and spamming the GL the second a pixel moves

No team required, in fact the team will effectively worsen your score if you bring them about

[tropic venture]

what's nice is that you don't need the most effective strategy

[marsh lark]

Ready or Not is boiled down to realism and when it comes to breaches, you are not getting many different entries. It will all come down to props/obstructions, what shape the room has, which grenade is viable for what and some scouting work. After that it follows the same thing, and no matter if you look at RoN, SWAT4, Arma Reforger etc. it will all be the same

[tropic venture]

👍🏻

[tacit gull]

When it comes to SWAT 4 handling situations was a lot simpler due to how grenades worked and how they interacted with certain levels, same with breaching tools

[gusty beacon]

Best breaching strat is to spam flash bangs until they submit

[tropic venture]

Well no shit

Games like hella old

[tacit gull]

Aswell as proper mission briefings that actually hinted as to what you would find in the mission

[tropic venture]

20 year old game

[tacit gull]

As for arma reforger i think you'll find that coordinating an entire team of 30 ish people will be a lot more effective at taking a point, but reforger is also mostly populated on PVP and has about a billion ways to handle any situation

[tacit gull]

20 year old game yet it understood RON's features better than itself

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/jackass-3d-couch-explosion-gif-25176966

[tropic venture]

Ready or not has a different vision

If you can find that hard to believe

[tacit gull]

And yet it copied most of SWAT's systems to the point where early hud concepts were literally SWAT 4

[tropic venture]

Yeah taking vision from what most say is a perfect swat game from that time

[tacit gull]

Right, they did that but either misunderstood what worked or just... didn't care?

My best example (and i'm tired of crying about this) is probably commander mode

[tropic venture]

I mean what do you hate this game or something

You have a lot to complain about

[tacit gull]

It is just a shallow, empty nothing of a gamemode that doesn't add anything other than magic perks to your sentry turret AI comrades

[tropic venture]

It introduces you into the game

[tacit gull]

People who care a lot about something will be the first to point out its imperfections

[slow nexus]

How I beat 90% of the game tbh

[tropic venture]

Puts the lives of other officers in perspective and adding a strategic element

[tropic venture]

How can you have fun playing the game at this point

[tacit gull]

The perspective of my comically overfilled memorial place on 1.0 release

Me losing officer x with the kicker trait for the 8th time this run after he complained about gas prices

[tropic venture]

Maybe you should use nonlethal force to keep them around longer

[tacit gull]

Oh i do, i just genuienly could not give one about them since they're as replacable as my toenails

[tropic venture]

You just don't understand the purpose of commander mode

You should just stop complaining about it and play what you like

[tacit gull]

And if you're doing ironman? Well then you just don't move them from the spawn area

Because you are actively throwing by allowing them to even engage in the mission

[tropic venture]

Well yeah just play with friends

[tacit gull]

Just because i despise commander doesn't mean it isn't a part of the game, you have to play it for a good chunk of achievements

[tropic venture]

I don't think the devs expect you to do ironman with bots easy

[tacit gull]

Well from how the game plays i'd say the devs expect you to do it without bots easy

which is exactly how i did, the second the GL came out i just got the watch 😭

Just because you like something doesn't mean you shouldn't complain about it, RON has so many issues that listing them here would probably get me kicked for spam, that doesn't mean i dont give a shit about it or that i can't enjoy what little of it works

[tropic venture]

The game is still being worked on though

Just dm void and complain to them there

Complaining in chat won't solve anything

[tacit gull]

Dude, the game's been released for like 2 years

EA was a LOOOONG time ago

[tropic venture]

And it looks like its been worked on for awhile

Those 26 maps didn't come out of nowhere

The 100+ voice actors didn't just knock it out in a day

Multipoint attachments are coming soon

[tacit gull]

Ah yes, the 26 maps with broken mirrors, broken ssr, bad lighting, silver shaded people and blood, broken dirtmaps, improperly modeled npcs, improperly attributed npcs, etc.

reminder that there's 1 npc in the entire game that has a working gasmask

[tropic venture]

You should ask void to hire you and use your skills to fix the game