👮ron-discussion

[amber dock]

Yep it’s varies with like 1-3 each time you restart

[inland needle]

Having trouble on Xbox PC trying to invite one of my friends on Playstation. They can invite me on Epic, and the Epic app says theyre online, but it doesnt say they're online in RoN

[unkempt wadi]

What's the best .300 blackout rifle?

[spiral tundra]

I like the ARN-180 but idk about others

[inland needle]

I use the LVAR

[desert island]

arn180 lets u use a muzzlebreak

so it has least recoil

dmpdw4 lets u not use any attachments to be the shortest

its basically a smg wit 300 dmg

[whole plume]

DDM4PDW, its the shortest and overall just best one

[whole plume]

Yeah that

[surreal merlin]

Does dorms have soft objectives ?

[spiral tundra]

No

I believe at least

[amber dock]

The altar with the drugs

[spiral tundra]

Nvm

[amber dock]

You have to stand on the podium to see the prompt to report it

[exotic slate]

whats the best shotgun?

[spiral tundra]

Idk, I use 870 cuz I love Remington

[desert island]

best shotgun is definitely the b1301

[exotic slate]

I kinda wana use the mosburg but it sounds like people dont like pump actions

[desert island]

pump shotgun had no advantages

[spiral tundra]

Sound cool

[desert island]

bm1301 is a straight upgrade in stats over the other shotguns

[rich furnace]

I don't need to buy gamepass for mp
Ts so peak

[exotic slate]

sounds good

[desert island]

they all have same dmg and recoil

b1301 has slightly less than m1014

and the semi autos dont need to pump so u can shoot fasrer

[spiral tundra]

I mean idk why you gotta shoot twice with the shotty

Unless you just panicked but

[desert island]

multiple enemies or armored enemy or miss

[spiral tundra]

You can insta kill to leg or arm anyway

[exotic slate]

how do you know the stats?

[desert island]

that requires changing ur behavior

[ocean cargo]

Was doing so good on my relapse s tier, than got domed in the back of the head as I was securing a suspect 😭

[desert island]

stats r on the spreadsheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d89lpFDA9lo_v13iBlnhtuA6DvuUnKfPaeo0d4RBGJ4/edit?usp=sharing

[exotic slate]

2 complicated
Pump action go "Chachunk"
sounds good

[spiral tundra]

I just started walking up to the cabin in my lethal obsession S run, and I hear a yell then an explosion..

I think the suspect AI may have just exploded

[ocean cargo]

So that happened to me once and then it turned out no one blew up

[spiral tundra]

Turns out he ran into a flashbang

[desert island]

they can survive grenades

i think grenades do like 160 dmg and they have like 250 hp

[stoic thistle]

Temu Ted and his accomplices are built different.

[pseudo bobcat]

any tips for greased palms

[simple drum]

I went outside to the left instead of through the front door.

[exotic slate]

standard completion or S rank

[velvet steeple]

they gotta revert the gas changes

it’s so ass rn

literally just use pepper spray atp

[tiny burrow]

Accidentally shot ONE guy in the head with a beanbag killed him and landed the mission on A+

I hate valley of the dolls.

[jovial lagoon]

Yo is the MF paperdoll bugged ?

It doesn't update and shows i don't have a helmet

[desert island]

sometimes its bugged

[spiral tundra]

Got right to the end of twisted nerve S with my squad, and me and another dude died to a crazy girl with a knife
Other dude didn’t even see her and so couldn’t do anything
And I was stuck behind a shield with a pepperball pistol

They gotta make it so you can’t get stabbed through a shield

[spiral tundra]

@hybrid stream #🎬ron-clips-and-media I don’t get what you mean, may you elaborate?

[hybrid stream]

Can you see the person's legs and feet stop rendering randomly?

At 4 seconds into that clip I point directly at them.

[spiral tundra]

Oh now I see

Yeah idk

[hybrid stream]

That specific example isn't much, but it's still bad. Not seeing enemies because they decided not to render has fucked up quite a few runs, whether that's thinking an area is clear when it isn't, or actively going through a room to watch an enemy pop (most literally) into existence as one of us passes a shelf.

[still sable]

does RON use raw input

[vague hedge]

Anyone have good s rank loadout suggestion?

[spiral tundra]

Do you have launcher?
And which map?

[vague hedge]

Diddy house

I have all launchers

[spiral tundra]

I say beanbag shotgun, with TRPL if you have it
M320 Flash / stinger launcher

As long tactical
Or if you prefer carry flashbang you can swap for shield if you have a squad to help you

[vague hedge]

@spiral tundra I was doing it single player

[spiral tundra]

Ok then use M320 flash or stinger as long tactical
Stinger has better radius

[vague hedge]

@spiral tundra diddy house is the hawaiian shirt right?

I want that shirt so bad

[grizzled plover]

yes

[vague hedge]

Does it have to be on hard mode

Or does it matter?

[spiral tundra]

Standard

Or above

[spiral tundra]

You can really choose between launcher or beanbag
But I say use long tactical launcher due to patio
And beanbag for the close range in the building

[dry thistle]

I’m somehow in a different games’s voice channel right now, while playing on another map. Anyone ever seen this lol?

[halcyon osprey]

whens the next update? theres so many bugs in need of fixing

[vague hedge]

@spiral tundra thank you for your help

I been trying for days and no luck

[spiral tundra]

Np

[vague hedge]

@spiral tundra do you have it yet?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah I got it

[vague hedge]

Nice congrats

[spiral tundra]

Thanks
If you still need help I can help tomorrow

[vague hedge]

@spiral tundra I kinda suck and don't want to hold you back

I appreciate the offer

[spiral tundra]

It’s fine idm

[clever escarp]

explain to me how the fuck im struggling so hard to s rank a mission with 3 armed suspects vs when i attempted s ranking valley of the dolls and got it in THREE TRIES

[crude prism]

🦐

[clever escarp]

true

[spiral tundra]

Just bring a flash launcher with a ton of ammo

[modern shuttle]

have they fixed the problem where you cant join your friends?

[amber dock]

All cosmetics including dev watch can be obtained on casual

Only achievements really need to be done on standard or higher

Cosmetics feel free to do on casual

[torpid rain]

why do mods now make the score invalid i played a few maps with mods and the score got saved

[amber dock]

It’s always been like that

It doesn’t mean anything besides the text you see at bottom

You still can unlock stuff and achievements and what not. Doesn’t affect anything

[torpid rain]

I s ranked greased palms on hard mode but it still shows as standard s rank

[amber dock]

If the hard mode S rank took longer then standard one then that might be why

[clever escarp]

i cant flash launch the fuckers when yheyre across the school barricaded in a different classroom executing the fucking students

[marsh lark]

Slugs or buckshot, choose

[ocean cargo]

gas is still not entirely fixed man holy fuck

absolutely useless on relapse

[spiral tundra]

Oh I thought you were talking about lethal obsession

Icl on that map I just tell all civs to run to exit then I pull up on the shooters like king von

[rancid ivy]

Tips for greased palms

[uncut widget]

Press R to reload

[rancid ivy]

On xbox

[cloud tree]

When will RON fix their servers on console. I am always lagging

Can’t even enjoy the game with people

[dusk sand]

looking for a team hmu

[tired dove]

I just joined to the discord to find an update on if they will be fixing this. Had people tell me it’s fixed but it is certainly not. Has no noticeable effect on suspects when shot at their feet.

[wooden haven]

why is stolen valor such a bad map??

[high jasper]

Can i beanbag a civillian if they dont wanna get down?

[wooden haven]

yes

[analog ice]

Shooting near them and ramming them also work if they defy your commands

[bleak birch]

For some reason all my team ai got deleted (all 4 survived last mission). Am I locked out of the dev watch now?
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[mellow sparrow]

[bleak birch]

So confused rn

[cloud tree]

WOW THEY IMPROVED THE GRAPHICS AND BRIGHTNESS

[quiet apex]

I'd assume so, honestly. It looks like what would happen if you fired everyone, and firing doesn't count you out of the watch, but magical deleting probably does

[cloud tree]

THEY FIX ANYTHING BUT THE DAMM BOTS AND SERVERS

[quiet apex]

Yeah ai is still Helen Keller

[cloud tree]

DUDE THEY WILL INMEDIATELTY SPRAY AT YOU IF THEY SEE A PIXEL OF YOU

SO GAY

😭 😭 😭 😭

[wet dock]

ron needs a bank robbery mission fr fr

[languid creek]

I need like 40 more missions please

[quiet apex]

I meant swat ai, suspect ai is cracked yeah, tweaker Chris Kyle and his immaculate aim

[wet dock]

they get down immediately if you melee em

[cloud tree]

Yes bro. They need more maps

[high jasper]

whats the default button to melee?

[wet dock]

b

[wet dock]

ong i feel a bank robbery would fit perfectly for swat tho
surprised it aint in the game yet ngl

[cloud tree]

They should let us make maps

And they can make us buy more guns

There’s not enough guns

[smoky cedar]

you used to be able to do that but as of now you can't because they didnt give us the material to make maps

[jagged zodiac]

I dont know what is wrong with RON everytime I launch it eventually it goes into a black screen, and then it kicks me out i’m going to uninstall and maybe in a few months once the thing is fixed I’ll probably reinstall it. This patch broke the game

[quiet apex]

Did you have mods

[signal citrus]

I had to launch the game in safe mode without mods or stuff and that fixed it surprisingly

[jovial lagoon]

Finally finished Hard Mode

[quiet apex]

I'm not even gonna touch hard mode, it just sounds so unfun

[mellow sparrow]

Just sounds hard

[quiet apex]

Not even hard just badly designed

[jovial lagoon]

I made a fucking meme about it in #🎬ron-clips-and-media

Best fucking image i've made

[quiet apex]

Too old for this will probably be the last achievement I get

[jovial lagoon]

Doing it with homie is fun @quiet apex

[quiet apex]

The guys i play with say standard is bullshit, I'd love to hear what they think about hard

[jovial lagoon]

Lol, they are gonna shit their pants

[quiet apex]

I sent them my dev watch and they were like "how tf can you stand playing this for more than 10 minutes at a time" and I sent back 🤷‍♂️

[jovial lagoon]

RON for GOTY 2025

[quiet apex]

Glitch of the year

[jovial lagoon]

Exactly kjdskdsjdks

[quiet apex]

I do wonder what's gonna win it this year

S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 maybe?

[jovial lagoon]

Hmmm, probably i dunno about that

[echo lily]

Does anyone know If there's gonna be pvp in the future?? Like one team will be on swat, same exact objectives, while the other team will be the terrorists/enemy's, protecting said objectives. Wouldn't that be insane??

Would be what rainbow six seige could've been, instead of the rainbowbrite trash hero shooter it's turned into😂

[cedar mulch]

Hard mode should add jogging to specific maps, such as the post office and port, which have outdoor scenes.

Without a sprint, SWAT has no way to find cover.

[jovial lagoon]

There is a wonderful thing called "Low Ready" which increases your movement speed

[cedar mulch]

No, no, no, you misunderstood. That won't help you avoid the suspect.

[jovial lagoon]

Skill Issue (?

[cedar mulch]

This is not a technical issue, but a practical one. Walking in places like ports is tantamount to courting death.

Any map with outdoor scenes should not only allow walking, but also actual jogging.

[jovial lagoon]

The game is meant to be taken slow, At one point Ready Or Not had Sprint but then it was removed

[cedar mulch]

Of course I know that. However, running is necessary. With maps like community colleges, walking means more and more students will die.

[jovial lagoon]

I personally preffer the game with no Sprint, but hey could work

[cedar mulch]

Void is so stubborn， that they believe all maps should be played at a so-called slow pace. However, some maps are simply not suited to a slow pace.

[jovial lagoon]

Well it is their project and their vision so yeah

[cold anchor]

Literally every map is built for a slow pace.

except maybe the DLC maps but even those play slow

rushing will get you killed, just like real life

if your in a hurry to die, you'll meet a bullet before you even saw it coming, if you take it slow, stay aware, stick to the saying "smooth is fast" it becomes trivial

then again, I don't do S rank, because having to let a bastard who was shooting at me live sucks

[jagged carbon]

Hate elephant would’ve gotten a A+ if the last suspect didn’t kill a civilian. Didn’t even see the bastard do it I was searching for him right after disarming a bomb and then bang dead civilian got a C.

So far the mission I hate the most

[quiet apex]

Why are you disarming bombs before order is brought to chaos?

You have 2 minutes before they start shooting civs, 11 before the bombs explode. It's trying to get you to do the real life swat thing of ignoring civs and bombs to take out the shooters first

[noble plover]

Bro anybody beat greased palms Jesus

[jagged carbon]

I took down all but one of them. I was clearing as fast as I could and would disarm a bomb when I saw it. I hate timed missions in games they annoy the hell out of me.

[noble plover]

Solo

Mission is crazy hard 😭😭

[quiet apex]

I got the s on my ironman run, clear the outside first, then loop back around the front, clear the building off to the right of the entrance if you're facing it, then clear the upstairs in the main building first, then the fisa office, then the packing area

[noble plover]

Thanks ima try this

[quiet apex]

Yeah don't disarm anything until all 4 shooters are arrested/dead. If you did it right you have over 8 minutes to find and disarm bombs you should have seen whilst clearing

[noble plover]

Is it just me or is that mission not hard ??

[quiet apex]

Elephant? Not if you do it right

[noble plover]

Nah palms

[quiet apex]

It's not if you do it by chunks and send your ai into a lot of stuff first

[jagged carbon]

I just came here to vent I don’t plan to redo the mission as I won’t get anything out of it unless I S rank it and I don’t plan to do that. Had a hard day today.

[quiet apex]

🤷‍♂️ that's fair. Sorry today was rough.

[toxic harness]

Yep

[jagged carbon]

Thanks

[toxic harness]

You should Hard S it

[jagged carbon]

No thanks I would like to have fun with this game not hate it

[toxic harness]

Elephant is like the 3rd easiest mission to Hard S, behind both:

• Lethal Obsession
• 4U Gas Station

Lethal Obsession is ofc by far the easiest one as the only obstacle is traps. But there's only 3 suspects you must capture

[jagged carbon]

I no wanna

[toxic harness]

Yes you will hard s rank it

[cedar mulch]

I think you're caught up in the Void narrative. Community colleges aren't designed for a slow pace; their goal is to ensure that as few civilians as possible die.

In any case, some maps do not have running, which is equivalent to not taking human life seriously. The fundamental problem of school shooters can only be solved by quickly locating and killing them.

[cedar mulch]

The foolishness of the Void lies in their belief that all tasks should maintain the same pace. However, it is simply unrealistic for tasks like elephants to continue using a slow pace.

[jagged carbon]

Huh?

[cedar mulch]

It is reasonable that running is severely penalized on maps that require a slow pace. However, using a slow pace on special maps is tantamount to complete failure.

[cedar mulch]

The most obvious example is the port, which is not a CQB map at all.

[cloud tree]

DUDE I WAS HAVING A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH A DUDE AND THE GAME DISCONNECTED HIM FROM MY LOBBY

I will literally never see him again. Fuck you RON

[toxic harness]

Now this is a sad story

[jovial lagoon]

Internet Skill Issue lol (?

[cloud tree]

It happens a lot to console players

It’s annoying

[jovial lagoon]

Heh... Ever since i got a PC i have the toxic privilege to go ahead and say "Get a PC bro"

So get a PC

alksdjlksadjsalkjdlksajdalskdasd

[cloud tree]

I only got an Xbox Series S just to play RON. Got it for $280 on Amazon. I hope they really fix the game soon

[jovial lagoon]

yeah, in like 6 months yes, see ya in 6 months dude, godspeed (?

[cloud tree]

Godspeed. Honestly it’s solid most of the time. But there are bad moments

[jovial lagoon]

Welcome to RON

[spiral tundra]

Ends of the earth?

[toxic harness]

Yeah

[spiral tundra]

Issue with elephant is the RNG can be so bad and they spawn across the map

[toxic harness]

CN't say my favorite b word

[quasi coral]

Ends of earth is somewhat slightly more difficult

Mostly to do with suspect aggression, might get you killed

It's a tough bridge between Lethal, though

[spiral tundra]

Well it’s so close quarters that you can clear entire floor openings with a flash

[quasi coral]

I feel as if Lethal is a lot easier, I have S on it with AI teammates with lethal firearms

[quasi coral]

I suppose

[crude prism]

Considering the first time I played Elephant I got S rank blind during 1.0 terminators, I'm calling permanent skill issue on anyone that complains about it.

[toxic harness]

see he gets it

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

You just gotta remember some have strong armour when you aim for chest

[toxic harness]

Although my first Elephant run I got a D, none of my officers died and we also defused bomb after bringing order to chaos

[spiral tundra]

Civ died?

[quasi coral]

"THEY JUST KILLED A CIVILIAN MOVE QUICKLY!!"

[toxic harness]

I didn't report the suspects and didn't grabbed evidence

[spiral tundra]

On my first try I got
“THE TIMER IS APPROACHING ZERO, HURRY UP”

[toxic harness]

And every civilians were alive tho

[spiral tundra]

Just cuz I love taking my time

[toxic harness]

I just rushed it and said skip it

[spiral tundra]

I’m so close to medal of valor rn

[toxic harness]

Got both Too Old and Medal of Valor after finishing Relapse

[spiral tundra]

Relapse was surprisingly one of my first S

Cuz I was in a squad and we did relapse, neon and elephant although I already had elephant

Then I did greased palms and hide and seek yesterday

[opal kayak]

difference between commander and quick play modes?

[spiral tundra]

Commander has team morales, and you have to play missions in order

Quick play has just a base team and you unlock every mission auto

[opal kayak]

hm

[toxic harness]

Commander:

• Bonus perks from swat ai, but can stress out if you do lethal. Must unlock missions in order to play/replay them

Quick Play:

• Standard Ai, but they won't stress out as you do missions. All missions are available

[spiral tundra]

I’ve started to like the harder missions more
Gives more a challenge

[amber dock]

Quick play you still have to unlock missions one by one

You have to go to MP mode to have all unlocked missions

[plain raptor]

Rust belt has been kicking my ass on Hard, I'll switch to Commander with my usual guys and see what's what

[spiral tundra]

Use wedges if you’re getting flanked

[plain raptor]

Oh, that's not my problem, I use them properly, it's the Terminator reflexes of the suspects

[spiral tundra]

Oh yeah

[plain raptor]

I admit I'm pretty bad at aiming, but god damn

[spiral tundra]

You just gotta flash everything if that’s the case

[jovial lagoon]

CLOSEEEE THE DOOOOR!

Unless you wanna interfere with a Federal Investigation i suggest you shut the door and lock it behind you

[wide verge]

Point shooting with laser can help for cqb

[spiral tundra]

No gng 🤞

[plain raptor]

I gotta start doing that more often, however I do get killed in medium to long ranges more

[jovial lagoon]

Do your job and proceed with your mission, understood ?

[spiral tundra]

Imagin there was an alt ending

[spiral tundra]

I don’t understand mr corrupt

[plain raptor]

The wonderful thing about the game is that once you start learning the best practices, everything becomes easier

[spiral tundra]

I’ve been playing a lot of hide and seek to improve my aim

[jovial lagoon]

Failed Objective: Close The Container's Doors

[spiral tundra]

Now I’m going to randomly disappear

[plain raptor]

Imogen Heap? (I'll see myself out)

[wide verge]

Peeking and free lean behind cover help a lot

[marsh lark]

Hidden objective completed: Close The Container's Doors

[plain raptor]

Yeah, old timers have told me that free lean is much better than the simple leaning and of course it is, as you can even get low, like you're checking under a bed or something, but on console it's finicky to get it and out.

[wide verge]

Im on ps5 and agree, I forget to use it

[spiral tundra]

What’s free lean

[wide verge]

L3 R3 at the same time

[jovial lagoon]

I want to see the continuation of that bro, i want to see the next DLC so bad

[marsh lark]

I think DLCs are not connected to the main story in any way

[jovial lagoon]

Home invasion is connected as well as Dark Waters

Even Los Sueños Stories

[spiral tundra]

Xbox?
And what does it even do

[jovial lagoon]

Stolen Valor happens the same night as Twisted Nerve

[marsh lark]

Oh, nevermind then.

I thought I saw somewhere that it is actually not connected

[jovial lagoon]

Narcos explains how we got a hold of the human trafficing in the DealerShip, the guy who is being tortured infiltrated Los Locos to get that info

The Elysian explains how the MLO are trying to let D-Platoon know they are closer to them than they think

Chico's Mexican Restaurant has ties to Los Locos Cartel War and how there are other cartels that know about the Rust Belt incident and are trying to take advantage of that

[spiral tundra]

What’s the MLO? 😭
Idk much about the lore

[jovial lagoon]

Mariposa Lily Organization

[spiral tundra]

And what’s their connection to judge

[jovial lagoon]

Rogue USIA agents, the so called "Children of the USIA"

They are just like Judge, but they have gone Rogue

[spiral tundra]

Ah alr

And the meeting room?

[jovial lagoon]

The one in the Elysian ?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah what happened there

[jovial lagoon]

Guess who gave the info to the SAS members to make the trade with Los Navegantes Del Caos ?

Some of the people you arrest might be MLO in fact

[spiral tundra]

Which missions probably have MLO members in them then

[jovial lagoon]

The MLO are using Los Sueños as their personal Testing ground

They wanna push things to their most horrible limits

Do the same thing the USIA are doing but without limits, without profit

Just chaos

[spiral tundra]

Is there anything that means that judge may be a part of MLO?
For some reason the wiki says bro may be affiliated in some way 🥀

[jovial lagoon]

The evidence from Carriers of the Vine should tell you more about em, take a small trip to the evidence locker when you S the mission

Why do you think Gerard is talking about Judge in Lethal Obsession ?

Why do you think Judge is slowly doubting the orders given to him like in Port Hokan ?

Those are questions you need to answer yourself with the evidence and lore provided to you

[surreal merlin]

Where does Sah'id bin Khalid usually spawn in Mirage at Sea? or is it just random?

[jovial lagoon]

It's mostly random

[spiral tundra]

I’ve only ever found him upstairs but it’s random

[amber dock]

In my experience if you spawn middle deck he will generally be on other side of the boat protected by 4-5 guards.

[wide verge]

Below sundeck mostly

Mirage is a very random map. It can turn into a shit show if you don't arrest Sahid and he tells his guys to kill civilians

[long dome]

The most hilarious thing is that he has no voiceline nor animation for the order. It just gets triggered out of the blue even as he speaks to the SWAT.
A lil' bit ambitious thing for the studio that never quite finished the feature to it's full realism sadly, though I can say this about pretty much all the systems including the basics like gunplay.

[spiral tundra]

How long is it until he says that

[surreal merlin]

Oh yeah I found the dude

[amber dock]

Just triggers the blueprint and hope for the best. Unreal engine design baby

[spiral tundra]

Anyone?

[long dome]

Few minutes if unstressed iirc.
The more oyu stress them the sooner it happens, or it's random idk

[amber dock]

2-3 minutes generally.

But you’ll know it’s happened if you hear gunshots and TOC saying civs have been killed

[spiral tundra]

Bro how do people get party crasher 🙏

[long dome]

Going guns blazin' from the get go he orders it within a minute.

[amber dock]

Just arrest him like I got it on my second run

Like the moment you arrest him the missions turns to barricaded suspects

[long dome]

Luck mostly, you can find him within 15 seconds in some runs.

[wide verge]

A few minutes I think

[amber dock]

Civs won’t get killed unless by crossfire or being taken hostage

[spiral tundra]

On my run I got him almost immediately cuz he was right by me, but ig due to his dudes shooting at me and me killing them he’d already ordered it
But civs still weren’t killed? Ig I killed the dudes near the civs

But I didn’t get the achievement so

[amber dock]

I forgot what it was exactly but arrest him before anything else and no civs dead and done

So long since I played that map yuck

[candid moss]

Right then, when is the next update coming? Is it being worked on? What's the latest update?

[long dome]

Shoot him in the foot or center mass with JHP, usually knocks him down so you can arest him later.
That is if you are not getting an S rank at the same time.

[candid moss]

@amber dock you know anything about updates?

[spiral tundra]

If you die in Ironman does it reset the whole thing

[amber dock]

I just prefer throwing a watermelon at him

[long dome]

It deletes that very save.

[amber dock]

That’s the whole point of it yes

[spiral tundra]

Idk about me getting Ironman achievements 🙏

[amber dock]

Man if only it could delete the game, would’ve been so much better

[spiral tundra]

I had to do buy cheap buy twice on casual cuz I kept getting headshotted on my first run, I have a massive skill issue 😭

[amber dock]

I wonder if you can actually program that in unreal engine with like plugins or something or does it require deeper permission within the system

[long dome]

True Ironman Mode

Format C:\

[plain raptor]

tbh, since Void can't code in the player quitting the game before it has the chance to "realise" you've failed the run, it's not that bad. Plus, we're talking about a level-to-level progression, other games with similar modes require you to finish an entire continuous campaign.

[spiral tundra]

I’m on Xbox so it’s on quick resume

So I can’t back out 🙏

[plain raptor]

Haha, you seriously don't know how this works?

[amber dock]

Only way you could do it on console is to unplug the power cord or shutdown internet connection.

Unlike PC where you do the Alt F4 trick

[spiral tundra]

I’m not doing this tbf 🙏

[amber dock]

Kinda goes without saying

[spiral tundra]

I don’t sit right next to my TV to unplug it

[amber dock]

Hire someone full time to sit next power breaker and be ready to shut it down when you die

You can probs post a listing on Facebook for like 2 dollars a hour

[long dome]

You can quit the game in XSX tho, but it's usually graceful exit rather than straight up taskkill like ALT+F4

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
My game auto goes on quick resume so it would still be open if I go to home

[plain raptor]

On Xbox you quit the game guys, c'mon

[amber dock]

Wouldn’t it save the game progress though? Like the way I remember you shutting down games on console is that the game saves first before shutting down the game unlike Alt F4

[plain raptor]

Xbox button > select the game > Quit

[tired jungle]

Imagine doing that

Skill issue n shit

[spiral tundra]

What if you leave during a mission would it end your run
Like if I had to go

[amber dock]

Alt F4 halts the progress done prior to anything after that but on console I don’t have any memory of it working like that

[amber dock]

If you return to HQ before finishing a mission your squad mates will simply get very stressed

[spiral tundra]

Alr
I’m just dreading the hermit after the things I see this ai do

[plain raptor]

You need to quit the game as soon as you die or some officer dies. If you leave it too long, it registers you've failed and your save goes.

It works on PC the same way

[wide verge]

I unlocked all cosmetics I like and don't care about trophies. Never going non lethal again

[plain raptor]

I need that ruined watch

Even though I'm a Seamaster fanboy, so I'll probably end up still wearing that

[wide verge]

I use the casio

[plain raptor]

Me too currently

[tired jungle]

Real

[wide verge]

No bling that reflects light

[amber dock]

Casio is the better looking one

Dev watch is just one time flex showcase

[plain raptor]

The 5610 is such an increadible watch IRL that I pitty anybody who is into watches and doesn't know about it

[solar cloud]

I can’t stand my AIs so I just host a multiplayer lobby and do solo 🤦‍♂️(does anyone else do that)

[wide verge]

That's why I don't bother, I'd never wear it

[spiral tundra]

Would a dead officer on Ironman only register at the end of mission or is it impossible to avoid

[plain raptor]

It registers almost immediately AFAIK

[tired jungle]

I have a 5600, the 5610 wasn't available at the time and tbh, i don't need solar

[amber dock]

It registers once scoreboard comes up

[plain raptor]

That one is also great, it has so many options for colors etc., it's the Barbie of watches

[amber dock]

That’s when progress starts saving

[wide verge]

If someone including you goes down immediately quit the game

[plain raptor]

Really great to know

[plain raptor]

That's what I would do tbh, you need the officers for their traits for the later levels, you gain nothing by not restarting.

[wide verge]

Where are you guys from

[tired jungle]

I once made like a graph showcasing all the in game watches and their irl counter parts

[amber dock]

Earth:)

[plain raptor]

Great stuff

[amber dock]

I want a moon watch pls

Or Tag

[plain raptor]

Greece

[amber dock]

Carrera would be swell or some chronograph watch

[plain raptor]

A Patek Phillipe would be so funny

"Let me stop crime while wearing a 250k watch"

[amber dock]

Isn’t that what the dev watch is based off?

[wide verge]

Philos
Spain

[tired jungle]

Yes, a nautilus 5711

[plain raptor]

I didn't know, that's outside my price range. I recently got a Seamaster and that's probably be me for the rest of my life!

[spiral tundra]

Saturn

[wide verge]

I did get a rolex while I was in the military. Never wear it

[plain raptor]

as a gift?

[spiral tundra]

Yeah I can’t really quit cuz Xbox always puts my game on quick resume

[wide verge]

No after my first big deployment check

[spiral tundra]

I presume heavy armour is the way to go on Ironman?

[plain raptor]

Hayden, look up "how to quit Xbox games" because you're really pissing me off

[tired jungle]

One day i might buy a green submariner but that's really the limit of how much i'll ever spend on a watch

[wide verge]

Lol for real

[plain raptor]

Quick Resume has nothing to do with this

[amber dock]

Doesn’t one retail for like 10k at least? Or am I thinking of something else

[spiral tundra]

Bro if quick resume is on it’ll stay on 🙏

[plain raptor]

Bro, if you quit a game, it's off Quick Resume

[tired jungle]

Around there, depends on several factors

[spiral tundra]

And quitting manually takes more time

[plain raptor]

You're only minimizing the game

You need to quit it altogether to stop the achievement being voided

[amber dock]

I’m thinking of new one and not second hand one. Second hand you could probs find cheaper unless it’s really rare or limited made one

[tired jungle]

2nd hand ones are often more expensive

[amber dock]

Yep

[tired jungle]

I meant second hand

[amber dock]

[tired jungle]

Yeah because like

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/wuh-cat-cat-meme-confused-gif-17768241876164656273

[tired jungle]

You need to wait a couple years for it

Rolex will put you on a list and you'll get it... Some day

While you could buy it right now 2nd hand

[amber dock]

Granted imo expensive watches is one of those things I couldn’t justify buying second hand due to their overall value. Like it just wouldn’t sit right with me knowing this watch I spent a lot of money on someone else has used before me

[plain raptor]

that's why I don't like the brand. They're watches for Christ's sake, not Ferraris.

[cedar mulch]

The Cárdenas family is no match for Los Locos and the Sonora Cartel. Their operations are repeatedly disrupted by Los Locos.

[plain raptor]

I went to the Omega store, walked out with a Seamaster in 30 minutes

[amber dock]

Idk if this is more of a US thing but here in EU I’ve asked Rolex AD’s and most of them have watches ready to be bought really. They didn’t seem to care about waiting list or anything.

Which is the preferred way tbh

[grizzled plover]

3 more achievements to 100% ron

[wide verge]

I have a gold day date presidential. Dumb purchase back then but they go up in price steadily

[plain raptor]

That's a possibility, since they need to be shipped to the US.

Back to game questions, did they fix CS gas not doing literally anything?

[wide verge]

Not fixed. Effect area is way too small

[amber dock]

Only fixed somethings but still not how it was before

They primarily fixed how suspects behave in the smoke cloud but the effect and duration etc is still busted

[plain raptor]

I see, stinger M320 it is then

[wide verge]

The gas cloud is like 1mx1m

Should be triple that at least

Someone said the one shot flash launcher can be lethal

[plain raptor]

It is IRL #immersion

[wide verge]

Anything can be lethal irl

I still have not used a shield and keep forgetting

[plain raptor]

me throwing a CS grenade towards a suspect like a baseball pitcher in that sports science show

[plain raptor]

Very useful if you're doing "breach with leader"

[digital bobcat]

shield got buffed its a bullet sponge now

[plain raptor]

nvm😂

[wide verge]

Gotta try. Also I want to use pistols more

[plain raptor]

Dumb question, can you force an AI officer to switch to the shield and be the pointman?

[wide verge]

First yes, second not sure

[plain raptor]

Is there a command or you manipulate the equipment loadout beforehand?

[amber dock]

It’s supposed to be like that by default but it’s busted like a lot of things with the game

[slender sentinel]

Where is the Spanish chat?

[amber dock]

#alt-languages

[wide verge]

I think it's deploy-shield

[plain raptor]

So if there was only 1 carrying it, he'd be the pointman?

[amber dock]

What I mean is when you issue the command for whoever has the shield. They should automatically always be the first one in the line to breach a room but it doesn’t work as intended like a lot of stuff.

Like they either don’t go first or just don’t keep having the shield out

[spiral tundra]

Idk I was directly hitting people with gas on VOD and they didn’t get affected

[plain raptor]

Thanks for the info, good thinking, but bad implementation for now I guess

[spiral tundra]

Personally mine say “let’s swap” and go first but idk

[plain raptor]

I have a feeling that CS in general is wonky and I'm afraid they'll break the LTL rifles next time, but let's see

[wide verge]

Let's hope not

[brazen echo]

am i dumb or did they remove the breaching shotgun

[amber dock]

No, if you’re missing guns check pinned in #🔧modding-chat it’s caused by mods

[brazen echo]

oh that makes sense yeah

[inland kite]

so, did they fix the graphics on PC yet?

[crystal pelican]

wdym

[inland kite]

I mean does the game look as good on PC as it did before the console release

[crystal pelican]

no

[inland kite]

okay, see you in a month

[crystal pelican]

alright see you then

[plain raptor]

lmao

[stone bay]

bruh draw distance on consoles is 5m

its like worst optimisation of UE ever

also love the “deep” damage system where u r cruzin/ peekin all red, while suspects don’t get damage from 1m

[long dome]

I very vividly remember reports from ARK Early Access on consoles being basically 2D impostors 2 meters from your character.

Yea Ron's far from being the worst, but it's far from being the best either.

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unreal-engine-computer-smoking-computer-smoking-gif-24575019

[surreal merlin]

have you guys ever given a breach command and one of your ai teammates just doesn't stack up or goes somewhere else like around the building or something?

[long dome]

You can push any engine to burn your kettle

Prime95+Furmark FTW

[amber dock]

Ummmmm akshualllllllllyyyyy

[long dome]

I paid for the whole thermometer, i'm gonna use the whole thermometer

91°C hotspot on scorecard in RoN

[amber dock]

New record should be 95 whoever beats gets uh one new fan

[long dome]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

SO i uncapped my framerate

[pine pollen]

My brother my GPU reached 110 C (hotspot), I think I need a repaste and thermal pads change.

[long dome]

Same here but i can't be arsed to find correct pads for this card

[plain raptor]

Sometimes they all won't do what I asked them to do. The AI needs a patch, it didn't use to be like this.

[tired jungle]

Ampere and rdna2 do reach 110°C and it's normal

[plain raptor]

meanwhile I'm sitting on my desk with my Series X, not being able to look at any temps

rhyming accidentally

[jagged carbon]

Got Eminem right here

[plain raptor]

I'm the lead singer of D12 baby

[winged elbow]

bro where is the update

I'm bored, we need new guns

[toxic harness]

I bet you only used one gun the whole time

[hushed nebula]

guys wheres the VO folder, i couldnt find on my ron folder

[winged elbow]

Used EVERY single gun tho, I'm js bored cz there is nothing good to play

[amber dock]

Game doesn’t use it anymore. All VO are now part of pak files in game

[hushed nebula]

errm how to open the .pak files?

[amber dock]

You kinda don’t it’s a packaged file, if you wanna mod voice lines or whatever you’re better off asking in modding discord they have more expertise there

[spiral tundra]

No good guns..?

[toxic harness]

Even the M32A1?

[hushed nebula]

i dont want to mod the voice lines, i just want to dig lil bit deeper and hear every voice lines for toc

[wind phoenix]

Just wanted to let the devs know, unsure if it’s a known issue. I am playing the Dorms map and am having a lighting issue. There is a door that is bright reflective white in a dark room and my one officers body armor is appearing as a black void color

[amber dock]

Uhhhhhhh still should ask modding discord how to extract content of pak files. Beyond what we help around here with

[hushed nebula]

okay

[plain raptor]

I'm pretty sure this is a known issue, as I also have some issues on Series X, on this level.

[wind phoenix]

Alright then I won’t need to make a bug report

[plain raptor]

Some of the mechanisms regarding textures/lighting are named like MacDOS versions and I do remember they were saying they want to do further work on them.

In general, I like UE5, but it's not straight-forward apparently

[prisma axle]

was the arg fully scrapped from the game right ?

or does some bits of it still are there

[amber dock]

Some stuff still in check #🪹the-sepulchre-arg for latest findings

[prisma axle]

ait

[buoyant pecan]

OH MY GOD ITS HIM! BECKY OH MY FUCKING GOD ITS EMINEM!

[plain raptor]

I'm not typing the rest, cause ban hammer

[buoyant pecan]

Wasn’t expecting to see a D12 reference here
Elite ball knowledge

[buoyant pecan]

LMAO real

[plain raptor]

Thanks brother

[buoyant pecan]

Yeee

Devil’s Knight slaps. Crazy album

Edit: *Night. Devil’s Knight would make for a pretty badass metal or horrorcore album name tho

[plain raptor]

proceeds to rap the whole thing from Fight Music

[buoyant pecan]

proceeds to rap literally any Bizarre verse that isn’t that one single serious one he did

[plain raptor]

😂

Superman video, I was in the back

[solemn patio]

Need help, every time I play valley of the dolls all the suspects including voll mysteriously die to 7.62x51 while handcuffed!

And when I check my bodycam it comes off right before! (Sarcasm I clarify)

Dude theres no way to clear hospital bridge without immediately getting disemboweled by the AI wtf

The door has no side to hide behind and NPCs easily flank

[spiral tundra]

I’ve never died there

[spiral tundra]

This maps is one of the easier ones to not be flanked due to the 2 sides, before you cross just double check each area

[solemn patio]

Its also RNG that judges how you play

[wind phoenix]

Yeah there is some RNG. I usually will just rush across the bridge as fast as I can so I can get to cover at the doors at the end

[prime moon]

do any of yall know if the devs planning to add anything before the dlc next year

[plain raptor]

I think not, the next new stuff will be the next DLC

[prime moon]

ahh alright kinda unfortunate

[solemn patio]

I did that and it worked so well

And I didnt go middle, flanked it

I feel so dumb

[plain raptor]

Rushing to cross the bridge is the goat strat, even if they weren't looking out the windows, you got a better chance of being able to take your time to breach the double doors and the next one at the same time.

In general I'm surprised that suppressors aren't more popular

[spiral tundra]

Once I had one on the bridge
Me and my squad emptied 20 bullets into that guy

[spiral tundra]

I don’t use em cuz I love the gun sounds of this game

[plain raptor]

They're pretty good, ngl

[spiral tundra]

They’re realistic unlike cod etc

[solemn patio]

I wish I could choose integrally suppressed barrels and change calibers for some guns

[plain raptor]

At this point, CoD's is so unrealistic, that I wonder how they make them

[solemn patio]

I want an integrally suppressed 300 blk F90 lowk

[spiral tundra]

They make them loud cuz ig kids like loud guns

[spiral tundra]

Idk if swat have this kinda stuff but idk

[solemn patio]

MW2 2022 had some decent gun sfx

[solemn patio]

Well its fun, doubt swat has 50 ae pistols either but they’re fun :)

[long dome]

If you won't get self-gas'd after full-auto fire from some of these; they are not realistic in the slightest

[plain raptor]

I don't know, I think most FPS nowadays cheap out on the sounds and they don't record, they manufacture the samples

[solemn patio]

5.56 doesnt recoil that much irl

[spiral tundra]

Idk how people play full auto all the time in tactical shooters 🥀

[solemn patio]

The guns ARE small tho

[long dome]

I mean, it's a portable more accurate shotgun with better penetration capabilities. One does not simply run without it

[plain raptor]

Insurgency vibes

[solemn patio]

I have the funniest tale

I had a guy take a hostage, he shot at us AND EMPTIED HIS GUN LOL

[long dome]

I want all of the folks in the level to tactically die on the spot

[spiral tundra]

Most of them are carbines for a reason

[solemn patio]

And acted like he still had a hostage

[solemn patio]

Yeah, or “pistols” as defined by the NFA

[plain raptor]

lmao, that'd do numbers as a YT Short

[solemn patio]

Taking minimal damage in ready or not runs feels so good bro

[plain raptor]

Then you know you're getting better

I've noticed this on my playing too

[spiral tundra]

Yeah
In most my missions when I got the game a couple days ago my body looked like a dummy at a range

I was peppered

Maybe cuz I carry a shield more than a mirror now tho but

[solemn patio]

Bro if I was judge I would be taking like legit months of therapy like DUDE I JUST SURVIVED 4 SHOTS OF 7.62 OWW

[spiral tundra]

I only use shield when I have a multiplayer team

[spiral tundra]

He is like
On something

A chemical agent

[solemn patio]

Nah, hes just built different

[plain raptor]

He's just [redacted]

[spiral tundra]

He was part of an experiment with chemical agents to make a perfect cop

So he’s out of it mentally and physically sorta

[solemn patio]

Im a slightly obese man who can barely walk for 20 minutes in plates ( I tried)

[plain raptor]

When I was doing my service, we took plates for guard duty and it sucked majorly even to stand around wearing them for two hours

[solemn patio]

I really wish I didnt have hearing loss

Because I wanna enter a potentially life threatening position for my country to pay for college tuition lowkey

[solemn patio]

What kinda pistols did you work with btw

[plain raptor]

No pistols, just rifles and LMGs

[solemn patio]

Jesus

I heard LMGs recoil really light when they’re the real heavy ones, is that true?

[plain raptor]

It really depends on the weapon itself. We weren't allowed to fire full auto, just single shot.

Weight and more importantly weight distribution is a significant factor in weapon design. The new 6.8mm rifles the US got from SIG, is quite front-loaded to counter the higher recoil compared to the 5.56.

[solemn patio]

I lowk hate SIG as a company

SIG Sauer

Not the other SIG

[plain raptor]

I heard some things, but since we don't carry guns in Greece, I don't have a clear picture of the industry

[spiral tundra]

sauer is reliable though

[solemn patio]

I said as a company,

They definitely are doin some bribery

[plain raptor]

that says more about the DoD than them tbh

[solemn patio]

I lowk dont understand why we dont cut the lights in most ready or not raid things

It makes the suspects get exhausted faster IRL

[spiral tundra]

I mean we have no intel at all in game
Irl swat go in with insane intel

[solemn patio]

Cuz their brain thinks its sleepy sleepy time

[spiral tundra]

The in game swat team and whole TOC thing isn’t the most realistic
But the game would become insanely easy with a real size team and intel

[plain raptor]

They've said it's a huge ask, given that all of the lighting in the game is "pre-baked"

[solemn patio]

Oh?

[plain raptor]

essentially it would be computationally expensive

[solemn patio]

Makes sense

[slate oracle]

Hello

[solemn patio]

I just demolished some guys organs with 300 blk LOL

[slate oracle]

I love doing that.

[spiral tundra]

Game should fr add an organ system

I tend to aim for lungs so

[solemn patio]

Maybe LSPD is understaffed, but well funded.

[slate oracle]

They only have limbs and a head system type thing right?

[toxic harness]

Yes

[slate oracle]

Mhm

[wide verge]

H&K>SIG

[solemn patio]

Only applies to the military really, HK is sucky for civilians, (give us the MP7 CIVILLIAN VERSION NOW YOU EVIL RICH PEOPLE)

[surreal lagoon]

can someone tell me the best beginner weapons on the easy raids

[toxic harness]

That's until those Locos, Ex-Military, and Private Agents has their own aimbot aka skill

[solemn patio]

We need more full sized pistols lowkey

[toxic harness]

They are full size. It will tell you it's compact if it is

Like the Compact P230

[solemn patio]

I lowkey want the ability to use the little block bottom mags with the additional like +3 capacity in this tbh

I can dm u an image

[languid creek]

Can we get like 78 more maps please

[toxic harness]

We need a gunsmither in LSPD department

[solemn patio]

Extended base plates i mean

[toxic harness]

I want a mix of RoN shenegains and real life shootings

[languid creek]

at the point where I’m beyond familiar with every map so my friends want to play grouped up and tacticool slowly pushing through the house but I’m out there doing a solo push on the other side of the map so we can finish the game 30 seconds faster

[solemn patio]

We need a 10 player mode with more enemies and bigger maps lowkey

And a gunsmith yep

[toxic harness]

But we may need more suspect count for already existing maps

Make 3LT hell for 10 player count :3

[solemn patio]

B92X is my favorite pistol lowkey

Second only to the USP45

[toxic harness]

I rarely use pistols

[solemn patio]

Is it okay to run revolver as a shield gun

[spiral tundra]

I’ve started to use mkV and the gas dudes got sent flying

[solemn patio]

(Cries in console player)

[spiral tundra]

MkV as shield gun

[spiral tundra]

I’m Xbox 🥀

[toxic harness]

I'm PS

[solemn patio]

Well Ion got it vro 🥀🥀

[spiral tundra]

I’ve been enjoying shield with this
Having to just guess the barrel to target and see if they go flying or not

[solemn patio]

I wish they added a sw model 29

[spiral tundra]

Add a flint lock

[toxic harness]

Lad! Lad! Put Thy Iron Down!

[solemn patio]

Imagine an option for a lanyard

[wide verge]

Fair,,my point is from a military perspective. I dont own any guns as a civilian

[toxic harness]

You should

[spiral tundra]

Why a lanyard in a raid 😭

[buoyant pecan]

Agreed

[wide verge]

I really have no need to

[spiral tundra]

Eh I’m British so don’t got the option unless I take the incredibly stupid hard way to get a license

[buoyant pecan]

I saw a P90 sold at Cabellas once

[toxic harness]

Why not?

[solemn patio]

FN herstal is goated

[spiral tundra]

Why are we urging people to buy guns 🙏

[toxic harness]

We gotta spread the second amendment

[solemn patio]

I want to own a SCAR 17 one day

[wide verge]

I still have access to the range if I want to shoot. Home defense is not a factor for me

[shy tulip]

In character for goldship

[toxic harness]

You know what fair

[spiral tundra]

Not everyone’s American

[solemn patio]

Duh?? Isnt it obvious?? SO WE CAN ONE DAY PROTECT EARTH WHEN THE ALIENS COME AND THREATEN OUR DEMOCRACY

FOR SUPER EARTH

[toxic harness]

Skill issue (joke)

[spiral tundra]

Eh I think Britain is better without everyone having a gun in their back pocket

[solemn patio]

They just have knives instead

[wide verge]

Agreed. For Spain

[spiral tundra]

Ay you can run from a knife

My phone gonna die

[toxic harness]

I seen this video where Europeans will allow someone to rob them, and ofc Americans see this an excuse to use their weapon for fun

[charred crag]

Why would you wanna be robbed?

I’m never just going to take that

[toxic harness]

Even saw a report that petty thieves told other people to not rob Americans

[solemn patio]

Throws knife

[toxic harness]

HE MISSES AND HE GETS TO EAT THIS KNUCKLE SANDWICH!!!!!

[solemn patio]

HELP I AM BEING STALKED BY CHICKENS

[toxic harness]

cook them for free fried chicken

[solemn patio]

THERES 9 CHICKENS I CANT WIN THIS FIGHT

[toxic harness]

If you have a stick, you can win

Nothing as dangerous as a human with a stick

[spiral tundra]

Proceeds to get shot

[toxic harness]

And the American is happy to finally use their gun that is cold for decades

[solemn patio]

Well theres a human methed up like crazy irl

[toxic harness]

Human who is on meth with a stick is even more dangerous

[spiral tundra]

Americans be keeping rifles to shoot them at a can once a year

[solemn patio]

Most of the time Americans shoot for fun lol

[toxic harness]

But when someone breaks a petty law that "hurts" them, they finally get a free human target

[languid creek]

Gotta sit on the back porch and dump some rounds at cans it’s part of the American dream

[toxic harness]

Europeans will deny this

[spiral tundra]

“I shot the guy with a knife in his hand 30 metres away, it’s self defence”

[toxic harness]

He was gonna rob his wife sir

[languid creek]

DoorDash driver got the wrong address not my problem 🔫

[spiral tundra]

Eh I do it with BB guns
It’s fun

[toxic harness]

I wish there are more Airsoft areas near me

[languid creek]

Get a .22 gun so you can have fun without spending your savings on ammo too

[toxic harness]

Or hell I wanna start my own place

[languid creek]

Make a cult

[toxic harness]

But I want 5.7

[languid creek]

No one is stopping you except your wallet

[toxic harness]

FUCK

[languid creek]

I live in a state where there is no magazine limit 🙏. I could walk around with a glock with a 200 round drum mag if I wanted to

[toxic harness]

Same

[languid creek]

Meanwhile New Yorkers are loading 7 rounds into their 10 round mag to comply with local laws

[blazing saddle]

somebody help me ive been trying to get S tier on this mission for over three hours now i feel like this game wants me to suffer more than war thunder i honestly cannot be asked this is fucking bullshit

[languid creek]

What mission

[blazing saddle]

one of the guns i have to secure landed on a fucking statue in a middle of a room in volley of the dolls

[plain raptor]

Coming from a country where the law doesn't allow people whose life isn't in danger to carry even a 9mm, you'd be surprised as how many weapons the criminals have.

[toxic harness]

VOTD is not bad

[plain raptor]

I'm not talking thieves etc., but organised gangs etc.

[blazing saddle]

how about we hop in a call i share screen and show you what the fuck is happening to me

[toxic harness]

Funny thing, im in class

[blazing saddle]

ah

[languid creek]

That open room surrounded by windows is the worst part. I clear top floor then circle back and around to do the outside or first floor. Either way prioritize securing outside so you can get in the first floor without being Swiss cheesed through windows covered by blinds

[blazing saddle]

ive tried guides still nothing i clear top floor than gym go down stairs clear that room wege the door for the cat walk go around go down stairs clear that floor than i usually die there if not i go down to basement where my and my whole AI team die or i do the cat walk and than i either die there or on the party area

[solemn patio]

Real

I want to go to an airsoft field one day lowkey

[toxic harness]

I would be glad to do outdoor in a chilly day

But indoor, well ventlated as the other place I went before was filled with BO

Like people that just showed up already smelled like BO

[buoyant pecan]

Idea: suspect weapons unlockable from s-ranking certain missions

[buoyant pecan]

Same

[solemn patio]

Hear me out

Wood furniture options for certain guns

[buoyant pecan]

YES

Not everything gotta be all black tacticool

I want a wood furniture shotgun especially

[solemn patio]

I want the R870 in wood

And I want an option to put wood on beanbag shotgun

[narrow zenith]

Why do people either sit in the pre game lobby for ages and ages and don’t do anything or just kick you for absolutely zero reason when you’ve just joined their public lobby

[heady wadi]

Are there any plans to let us use the taser with the ballistic shield?

[heady wadi]

Realll, you join a public lobby and the host is sitting in the gun locker 🥀

[prime schooner]

So has there been any new updates since the second patch?

[blissful storm]

dont think so

[spiral tundra]

Start of my Ironman run let’s go

Gonna give everyone max armour cuz

And SA-58s nobody’s gonna harm em

Everybody content so far

[buoyant pecan]

Attempting VOTD solo….

[spiral tundra]

Nobody dead first two missions

Or injured for that matter

If I can get hermit too this will be great, but I doubt it

[buoyant pecan]

Wish more guns had burst fire option

“Failure to report a downed officer” on a solo mission is crazy like
Bro I’m literally dead how do I report myself

[spiral tundra]

“Forgot to report lemme revive rq”

[tired jungle]

[tired jungle]

I mean, if a gun doesn't have a burst option irl then why would it in game

[buoyant pecan]

There are multiple guns that do have that option irl that don’t in game lol

[tired jungle]

Idek tbh, i don't usually change the fire mode unless i play an smg which i don't

[spiral tundra]

Final objective on twisted nerve being order to chaos
After this it’ll be 3 missions with no losses or injuries

Ironman going great so far.. can’t wait for later missions guys

[grizzled plover]

time for greased palms on hard, i want to die

[spiral tundra]

Oh yeah I forgot about greased palms

How great for Ironman

[grizzled plover]

i am more grateful for playing greased palms on standard now

[grizzled plover]

i completed it, but all my ai died and i killed a civ to kill the guy behind her, while i think my ai killed another civ

but tbh, most of my ai just stood there and let themselves get mag dumped

[floral peak]

you can do it officer, we believe in you

[spiral tundra]

My Ironman run is going great on the first 6

No deaths yet

[floral peak]

yo wsp hayden, how its goin

[spiral tundra]

Yo
It’s good you?

[floral peak]

yesterday was great

good

[spiral tundra]

Yeah

[grizzled plover]

ty, i just wish the ai were more reliable instead of being stupid

[spiral tundra]

Good to hear
Just going for Ironman achievements rn.. praying I get it first try but I’m not expecting that

If I get hermit at once it’ll be even better

[floral peak]

"DROP YOUR WEAPONS" yelled the ai while being mag dumped with AK

[spiral tundra]

My AI are cracked on Ironman idk why
Maybe cuz I’ve game them most armour possible and SA-58s and MkVs

[floral peak]

if you or AI die - ALT + F4 and you will get your hermit

[spiral tundra]

Anything they shoot is gone

[spiral tundra]

I’m on Xbox

[floral peak]

just close the app quickly

it can work like that too

[spiral tundra]

Will try

[floral peak]

if YOU die, you have to do it very quick

[spiral tundra]

I don’t mind about hermit rn just going for the world

But as I say nobody is dead yet so if they don’t even better

[floral peak]

The watches are fire tho

[spiral tundra]

Does paramedic save the hermit?

[floral peak]

dont know, didnt use paramedic for that

so i wouldnt risk that

[spiral tundra]

Aight ima go for veteran then

[floral peak]

i was doing my Ironman run on S ranks

[spiral tundra]

Oml I’ve got some great traits unlocked already

[floral peak]

saved a lot of stress for my ai

and kinda easier for me

[spiral tundra]

Negotiator, nutritionist, moral officer, riot control,

That’s my squad rn

[floral peak]

might wanna swap moral officer with intimidator

[spiral tundra]

Don’t have one 😭

[floral peak]

if your squad on high stress, just play easy mission with them and they will get better

[spiral tundra]

They’re all content

[grizzled plover]

every fucking time

[spiral tundra]

The missions I’ve been playing need arrests anyway

[grizzled plover]

also i mag dumped this guy with the mk17 and he walks off like it was nothing and i die

[spiral tundra]

2 of my dudes have SA-58s
2 shotgun
All have MkV
2 shields
2 mirrors
Tons of tactical z

[floral peak]

trust me, i saw that much more, the Hard S Greased Palms wont let me sleep normally

[floral peak]

why you even need 2 mirrors

[spiral tundra]

Sinuous trail next
If I’m not careful this is where I need it

[floral peak]

give one of them ram/m320

[spiral tundra]

Eh I just got it cuz the AI won’t be using the others

[spiral tundra]

We all have lock picks

[floral peak]

when going with ram it deal dmg on suspects morale

[spiral tundra]

Also they all have heavy full coverage ceramic armour and ballistic masks

[floral peak]

gonna go search for people to help with S ranks

[spiral tundra]

What’s the best way to go about sinuous trail

[spiral tundra]

I could give Ironman a break and play with you

[floral peak]

Remember what we were doing yesterday? that was a good route

[spiral tundra]

Dude
I know I one need C+ and I’ve still got A or A+ on each mission

I really gotta stop arresting over killing

[floral peak]

its good to arrest

better stress

[grizzled plover]

im never gonna s rank hard missions, fuck no

[spiral tundra]

But idk in the later ones it could cost a life pretty quickly

[floral peak]

do as you want then

[spiral tundra]

Ima give it a rest for a bit
Wanna play?

[floral peak]

Sure, just let me finish my match rn

[spiral tundra]

Alr

[floral peak]

ill hit you up when im done

[spiral tundra]

If I go on it for too long I’ll just get tired and forgetful

Ironman mode has really made me use wedges

[jagged carbon]

What a pleasant conversation

[haughty spruce]

I’m new to tactical-style shooters, having a little difficulty on Sins of the Father. Is there an optimal entry point?

[spiral tundra]

I say top floor so you don’t get shot from above

[haughty spruce]

Appreciate it :))

[spiral tundra]

Just be careful in the long hallways with various doors

[haughty spruce]

My problem has actually been when I get to the room with the bannister that peeks into the lower floor

[spiral tundra]

Yeah it’s quite annoying

[haughty spruce]

By the time I get down to the floor itself I’m already all sorts of banged up from the upper room lol

[grizzled plover]

when the ai dont want to breach and just sit there

and for some reason, its like i have storm troopers on my team bc they cant aim for shit

[haughty spruce]

I pray that when I tell the ai to flash & clear a room that their two collective braincells bounce together and form a thought 🙏

[grizzled plover]

hitboxes are shit too

[grizzled plover]

rs, most of the time i tell them to use a launcher, they just stand there after one opens the door and i have to tell them to just enter and clear

should i just do this with other ppl?

i cant stand the ai at all

[solemn patio]

Scope in port level is just peak

I love hide and seek

I havent even played it for long

[haughty forge]

Whats taking the devs so long with the bug fix updates? They Said every week they were hoping for One hotfix and its been 2 weeks with no sign of them even coming with a hotfix.

[solemn patio]

The devs need employees who understand console, probably are still hiring more staff, the console port was kinda rushed in my opinion, really buggy

[spiral tundra]

Imo they just gotta improve loading times on console somehow

[grizzled plover]

whats with this game and traps holy fuck

[jovial lagoon]

Why ? Lol

[grizzled plover]

i just played elephant which had traps and now rust belt which has traps

[desert island]

owned

[spiral tundra]

Idk man if I just killed 5 officers and have chemicals weapons in my house I’d be worried about swat showing up

[jovial lagoon]

And the problem is ?

[desert island]

theres only like 6 with traps out of 20

[amber dock]

I wonder how you miss it when TOC very clearly states it

[spiral tundra]

This is why we always peek doors folks

[grizzled plover]

literally what i do

[desert island]

i think they r just askin y so many trap maps

[spiral tundra]

Then how miss it

[grizzled plover]

i didnt miss it

[desert island]

dey didnt sey dey missed

dey just seyin y so many

[grizzled plover]

its just that i dont want someone to fucking barge through while im disarming

[spiral tundra]

Oh yeah
Misunderstood

[spiral tundra]

They shouldn’t unless they’ve seen you there before

[desert island]

cabin, vets, school, tunnels, vets2, stolenvalor

[jovial lagoon]

Thats why you gotta have suppressors

[solemn patio]

I accidentally just shot some civ in a bathroom because I thought he was holding something, whoops!

[desert island]

just place evidence bag on him

[solemn patio]

Was using 7.62.

🥹🥹🥹

[desert island]

at least he didnt die

[spiral tundra]

I didn’t even know elephant had it

[desert island]

7.62 just incaps in 1 shot

[spiral tundra]

I’ve never had a trap on elephant even on hard

[solemn patio]

I used JHP and hit him in the stomach

[desert island]

oh mebe jhp kills

[solemn patio]

Is that okay

[desert island]

[solemn patio]

He aint breathing but I didnt fail the rescue all civs

[spiral tundra]

Uh bro may be cooked

[desert island]

den he good

[amber dock]

You only see it on single doors. Double doors won’t have them and map has more double doors

[solemn patio]

I guess he had a gun up his butt

[desert island]

[spiral tundra]

I open practically every door still, idk maybe it’s a slimmer chance on the map

[amber dock]

It is

In my experience on elephant I have traps on 2 doors

Rest are empty

[solemn patio]

[amber dock]

I guess also has to do with map have more ways to enter a area then other maps that have like only one way to go through

[spiral tundra]

Time for DLC s

Just got medal of valor

[solemn patio]

Am I gonna be stuck bagging and tagging evidence man

[grizzled plover]

so i just got flanked, while i had a guy watching our flank

[worldly ridge]

Do you have AI teammates? If so, just order them to Search & Secure

[desert island]

just kill ai teammates

[worldly ridge]

why tho

[grizzled plover]

they're useless as fuck

[worldly ridge]

ok? why kill

Just order a hold position

Use them to bag and tag after you're done

[surreal merlin]

what does the move to exit command do

[worldly ridge]

it tells a civilian to stand up and run to the exit "spawn" where they will be autocuffed

[spiral tundra]

Be careful of them running into a suspect and getting shot

[worldly ridge]

It's a buggy mess tho. Make sure they actually stand up AND start running. I've had them just stand still as well and I had to cuff them

[surreal merlin]

i assume if it's a map like elephant that happens?

[spiral tundra]

Can do

If a map where the suspects have started to kill civilians it can happen

[surreal merlin]

but otherwise no?

[spiral tundra]

Idk if they auto kill even if they haven’t started killing yet due to running tho on elephant

[worldly ridge]

Otherwise no. Not unless they walk into a gunfight

Which can happen as some civilians REALLY love to check out the crossfire from a close distance

[surreal merlin]

oh ok

[worldly ridge]

At least I didn't have it happen.

But the current state of the AI boils down to "maybe?"

[spiral tundra]

They need a premier view man

Hollywood gunfights aren’t good enough they gotta see it live

[grizzled plover]

so i tell my team to breach and use a launcher, they proceed to fucking shoot the launcher at the wall and walk in without shooting, 2 of them died

un fucking real

[solemn patio]

They lowk need a bipod attachment

I want to mount my rifle to a rail on the watchtower and snipe lol

[desert island]

if the game mechanics worked

as soon as u get up there

everyone who has LoS wuld just start shootin u

maybe like helicopter sniper on dark water maps

[solemn patio]

YES

maybe at the start you can put ai in the heli in commander mode and access it via tablet and tell it to shoot when possible and in multiplayers case other players

[solemn patio]

Yeahh the AI has insane vision

Its like they start using eyedrops from birth

[spiral tundra]

I’ve been headshotted from so far away on dark maps so many times

[grizzled plover]

hate when that happens

[solemn patio]

Yeah makes you have to flank a ton

[spiral tundra]

Or when suspects start randomly shooting on dark maps so you don’t have a clue where they are

[desert island]

funny when they bug out and just start shooting nothing

and run out of ammo

[solemn patio]

Real

[spiral tundra]

Bro..

What did I say possibly bad

[solemn patio]

I had a suspect with a hostage do that, he ran out and couldnt shoot the hostage

[grizzled plover]

currently on rust belt, worse than greased palms

so many areas where the ai just break down

[polar sluice]

Guys wouldn’t it be cool if we had a laser light combo in the base vanilla ?

Like a peq laser and a flashlight

[crude rune]

I wonder what neon tomb is about

Oh Jesus Christ

[grizzled plover]

yea

[crude rune]

Holy crap there’s so many bodies.

[grizzled plover]

gonna be more if my ai cant get through a simple door

[crude rune]

Oh god do the AI work the same as elephant.

[grizzled plover]

wdym

[crude rune]

Don’t move fast enough, people get shot

[grizzled plover]

what in saying is that the ai refuse to breach a door and clear yhe room

[grizzled plover]

the ai are slow in ever aspect

[crude rune]

Oh

Jesus Christ the hell is going on there’s a bunch of Arab guys shooting up the nightclub and I don’t know why

[solemn patio]

Why dont the civs hide in lockers bro

Jesus christ

I just hit a civ through a suspect

Or was it a suspect through a civ

[velvet steeple]

Wearing no mask should give your shouts more effectiveness from the simple fact that you’re no longer faceless and your compliance calls now have no obstruction

Also adds literally any other reason to not use that fat ass ballistic mask other than if you run gas

[wind phoenix]

That’s a good idea actually. Cause it’s part of the load out and not customization. So you would assume no mask has some sort of benefit but it just flat out has no use other than looks

[worldly ridge]

Compliace calls overall need a buff, at least regarding to civs. Mask or no mask. Having to bash every single civilian in the head is insane

I can't remember the last time a civilian actually surrendered to compliance calls

[wind phoenix]

Yeah fair. That’s why I run negotiator and intimidator

[grizzled plover]

is it just me or do the ai never want to listen on rust belt

[solemn patio]

Well what if Im running less lethal commander mode and my teammates all pepperball me and the dude shooting me

Lowk I need to use it on nonlethal

Yo we should be able to use .38 special as opposed to .357 magnum on the revolver as an ammo type with less recoil

Slightly less

[spiral tundra]

Issue I had on neon with AI?

They walked round a corner and all blew up

[solemn patio]

My main goal? Is to blow up!

(Please get this)

[spiral tundra]

“YOU DIE WITH MEEE”

[spiral tundra]

No 😭

[solemn patio]

I can dm u the vid