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RoN wins 1st place for least-compitent friendly bots of any game ever. I swear, there's a warehouse full of toddlers on xannax controlling the SWAT bots.
Heās a community manager. Part of that job is being the lightning rod for the playerbaseās grievances.
"Hands up and down on the ground" would solve a lot of those issues imo, but yes lmao, let me command you to do 6 things at once
you have to give them constant commands, otherwise they just.. stand there.
Is tear gas still broken thought they were supposed to fix it in last update I havenāt had any suspects react to it or be fazed at all
the SWAT AI is a little finicky, but think of it this way.
they're an extension of you, and not their own beings. it's like SWAT4's (except, they were much more aware of their own surroundings even though they too sit around on their asses until you tell them to do something).
Maybe the game should be changed to a night map or some dark area like in a basement where the suspect's visual range is only 5 meters, and the same is true for SWAT AI without night vision goggles.
I like when the other members of your team comment on your surroundings. They did it a ton in SWAT4.
No, Kaminsky is the evil gremlin breaking the game every patch, he climbs into my Playstation and starts pulling out wires
Also if Devs can, pls give us a fully black GA416, pls and ty
Vonderhaar nerfed the DSR-50. Iāll never forgive him for that.
Or, give us options like the other cosmetics between camo options, like we have for cosmetics for ourselves
We can probably have Badger bully them for that too
Considering GA416 has been that color ever since the start of the game, I doubt it is suddenly getting changed.
Oh I know, just wishful thinking
I mean maybe? Still though, they got more pressing matters than weapon cosmetics currently.
Not that I mind the default color scheme, it looks quite nice, but idk. Also, I agree with you on the more pressing matters comment :)
girard (subway) is adorable.
i always love it when he comments on the donuts at the end of the training mission.
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and then python and fields give him shit for it.
Heās the emotional backbone of the team.
Justice, Due Process, and Donuts
then there's reynolds (gramps) being the gen x of the team.
Carriers of the Vine and one of them only able to go 'Fuuuck...' with all the writing on the walls lmao
i can't tell if it's eli or swan that's really talkative in RoN.
Gideon, my beloved. ā¤ļø
Forgot my headset audio was turned up. Exited loadout menu to see which squad members I have. Painful CHKCHK
Currently on my squad for their skills I have: Park, Hernandez, Diaz, and Perez, or Evan, Antonio, Andres and Diego as they're currently named
splooges from loud ass bolt carrier group sounds.
More eargasm gun sounds plz
Lmao, I was just customizing my squad cause I decided i'm gonna do DLC missions and step away from S ranking for a bit for my own sanity and was greeted with racking bolt carrier with malicious intent
that, and more judge incapacitated sounds.
More of Judge, like a lot more, like all of him, exposed, please
Lord knows i'm going to hear it enough when I upgrade to standard diff lmao
also..
i miss when you were able to spectate d platoon after you die. pre-release, you could spectate ai officers after death.
Judge is hot, I'll say it
Coldest take of the day
Is tear gas still broken thought they were supposed to fix it in last update I havenāt had any suspects react to it or be fazed at all
I also wish the paramedic skill worked on us, that way we can get at least one more chance if we fuck up
I believe according to other players it still is
Lowered my volume, still loud af bolt carrier sounds, are they actually that loud?
hard or standard. @long fable
Hard
Yeah Judge gets me hard what about it
then that answers your question.
gas has a reduced range in hard mode and suspects shrug it off more quickly.
placement matters for gas now in hard. can't just throw it and expect them to have tuberculosis like in standard.
same is also said for flashbangs.
Huh, that'll be good to know if I ever try it
as for stingers, they still have a longer range in rooms.
Yeah makes sense I just had it land multiple times with in 5-10ft and expected it to do something
What are stingers? I read the description and it still doesnt make much sense to me. Are they just extremely weaponized beanbags?
Really angry marbles
nope. they're rubber balls with a charge in it.
jesus
The Black Sentinel guys have some pretty dope gear. Hope we get access to it down the line.
Also taste bad
sigh.
i wish i could reverse the combat grip on the AWRC.
i know garand thumb and other tactical goobers run the BCM with the curve facing the barrel, but i don't.
I've seen some pics of them and they do indeed. Also pls give us a hooded raincoat like the eco front peeps
Wheres my M1 garand Kaminsky?
it looks so stupid and my fingers don't curve outward like that.
(Optionally, ofc, fix the game first before cosmetics obvs)
Reverse? Is it... not normal? Or do you mean while the player is holding it?
you could argue that having the curve facing outward reduces slip, but that doesn't really matter when my thumb is over the handguard.
i'll show you in dms.
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anyone else not getting the way out west achievement after beating rust belt with a .357
Just got the game on ps5 do yall have any recommendations for a shotgun build n what ammo to use please
M1014 is a powerful semi auto shotgun. Only issue is having to reload each shell individually. There is a shotgun they just added that is mag fed if you find the M10 too slow.
I'd go with the 870 or M1014, supernova I've heard is good too, but its up to personal preference imo
Awesome thank you Iāll check them out what ammo works best?
Buckshot for armor, slugs for non armor imo, idk if there's specific stats to it
Slugs for armor, Slugs for non armor, Slugs for suspects, Slugs for friendlies, Slugs for dinner, Slugs for bedtime
Iād stick with buckshot. If you run slugs you basically have a less effective rifle.
Why isnāt there flechette in the game?
Sounds good do the attachments matter or just run the brake
Iām pretty sure itās illegal to use
Lmao
^ iirc
Goddamn Calif- I mean Los Suenos.
Specifically according to California Penal Code Section 12320, apparently, which Los SueƱos is based on, obviously
Also, does anyone have a preference between ir laser, wm light or m600v? Is the WM brighter the the M600, is the IR laser better for stealth, etc etc?
It is legal or just not explicitly restricted in most states. But where the game takes place I guess it makes sense. It is a really effective shell, could potentially throw game balance off too.
lasers have no impact on stealth, the enemy AI does not see the visible laser
They're even illegal in Florida, if you can believe that
Cant believe Void are Liberal Los Suenos shills, I will not be Los Seunos compliant with my mag capacity
However enemy AI reacts to flashlights
Flechettes, meaning
Do Floridians ever follow the law..?
Florida has laws?
I wonder why flashlights, but not lasers. More easily visible to the human eye???
Yeah the humidity must be at least 80% or the entire state gets taxed.
Did kaminsky say we would be getting a update/hotfix very soon at the beginning of the week/last week or am i tripping?
Honestly I just joined specifically to keep up with game news and discussion so I have no idea
If you run the Glock conversion primary you instantly get jailed.
RoN should make a DLC called Ready or Not: On Partrol,
did they remove the breaching shotgun
That would be cool, the only other police simulator game I've seen doesnt really let you do much of anything
Not to my knowledge?? Its here on console for me, and equippable
Iāve been thinking they could add the patrolman uniform NPCs wear as a reward for 100%ing the game.
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It would still fit, and we can RP it as our 'off call' uniform when we're not out on calls
I think adding an NPC/player option for a female swat officer would be cool, in honor of Grasso, the one female LAPD Swat Member in their history and iirc current K9 Unit Commander
Hopefully the dlc will be a few more than 2 missions, I think someone said they were thinking of adding female skins in game, dunno if thatās true but Im for small hit box lol
My fucking S rank buy cheap run was ruined by my game fucking crashing
I NEED void to not suck at development for 5 MINUTES
Lol ye. Sorry, mistyped. I'd be for it too, just for some variety, even though I know that's not an easy task currently
You complain a lot
Because jesus christ there's so much that could be done better
All of you need to stop giving VOID grief. They are a small dev company who recently included console players. Of course there's going to be bugs and crashes. The game isn't perfect but the devs constantly work for and with the player base of this game
Her name was Jennifer Grasso BTW, couldn't remember her name, she's a Lieutenant and their only female SWAT member
Discord is built for complaining! No but seriously Iām sure the devs all understand we care for their game and only voice these criticisms because we want it to succeed. At least, I hope they realize this.
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They had it in a pretty good place before console was incorporated, i'm sure there were changes that had to be made to do so which broke things slightly
Question for you all: I know there's no gameplay difference beyond color, but do you guys prefer white phosphorus or green phosphorus for your NVGs?
White for sure
White phosphor for a modern unit, green for classic SWAT/SAS.
Not really, no. Theyāre onto white phosphor or multicolor NODs now.
Exactly
Sameeee
...multicolor exist? I'm so out of the loop on technology lmao.
Female officers could be a cool addition. They already have the player models, just need voice acting (not saying VA is easy but itās all they need).
My thoughts on it could be small house calls and small shootings that patrol officers respond to
They can literally give us repurposed NPC models, idgaf, I just think it'd be cool, and agreed, cowboy. Give us warrants, DV situations (as terrible as those are), things you wouldnt send a full on SWAT unit to as a secondary game mode or something
Patrol uniforms and ability to only equip side arm would be good enough for me
Let me have more control over my loadout. If I donāt want a primary, I should be able to unequip it and get āpointsā back to use on other items.
Hell, I'd love a good EMS simulator too, in the first responders genre of games
That too, i dont care if it doesnt make sense, let me choose my stuff š
Fire Fighting game where i can obliterate the homeowner with the bucket cannon
What sucks is like on rust belt, if your going for way out west, give them revolvers they default have main with no mags out and switch once they go into spot mode
I could see that being a mission intro. EMS and Fire are the first responders to an apparent arson incident, but are cut down by the suspects and are in need of help.
So annoying. If you give a guy pistol mags and a shield, he will pull out his empty primary when stacking up. š¤¦āāļø
That radio call/911 would be haunting lmao
Itās real stuff these first responders gotta deal with. Police arenāt always the first on scene. Could be great commentary on our current world.
True, and i'm sure Void would nail that
I want them to release the song playlist from in game, I cannot find the track that plays at end of 23 megabytes anywhere
Not the beat but the actual rap that plays, I think when you s rank it
Me looking at the '99 SWAT HRM vest and wondering wtf half these pouches are for, I assume some are utility pouches, but I can't figure out what you'd fit in them
I also can't read '99 SWAT HRM without reading it as 'Hrmmm' like an expression of thought
At least one of those pouches contains a ripit energy drink
š I'm sure it probably does tbh
That reminds me, is the MICH Ballistic helmet the one that's supposed to go with the '99 gear?? As a set, I mean
My judge drinks specifically the Pac-Man Gfuel
Yeah, I mean you unlock it with the rest of the 90s stuff
Fair, fair. I forgot about that
I feel a little weird sticking a modern ballistic mask to it with bubblegum and duct tape but it works
At least that's how I like to think Judge puts it there
Same lmao, it does look a bit weird, but you can headcanon that they tape it to the inside of the MICH
On those little side ear flap things
I use the ballistic mask just in case.
I need 90s gear at all times, I drip or drown spider-man
When are we gonna get the dating sim expansion? Front desk girl looks so lonely
It's saved my life on multiple occasions, I started putting my AI in it too
Wait- the MICH was first produced in 2001... alternate universe inclusion??
Wait no, i'm wrong, they would have been prototypes, development was done from 1997
Judge is married to the LAW
Is she the one we hear over the intercom in the precinct?
"Officer handsome, call my cell"
"Cop Cuties, Cuties on duty..."
Actually all jokes aside i would really like some patrol gear and scenarios
after rewatching a trailer from 6 years ago are we getting snipers , tacticle ladders and more than 5 SWAT members at all ? a proper campaign with more of a story than what we have now all of that stuff ? is it in the works
yeah
Honestly don't hold your breath, if it is it's a long way away
It only protects pistol calibers. Rifle rounds can penetrate
I know, but I use it anyways because I don't have anything better to use, I use 9 bangers which don't flash you, and only flash suspects
Its good for tweakers that usually carry makarovs and p230s
RoN and HD2 crossover when? I wanna see Judge fight the Bugs
it just feels like it is missing a lot of stuff tbf in terms of idk a more real world i feel like there should be more to do or at least it looks like the office station was designed for more looking at evidence or literally whatever , idk i would love missions with more swat members i didn't realise how much was missing from that trailer
Realistically we would have a lot more SWAT members too, even if they're just outside while we go in, there's normally an overwhelming force of officers for every SWAT call
16 gamers in one mission, we literally save Reach
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yeah thats true
"You're the last elite and you see a spartan running at you with a BTS clan tag"
Youre the last elite and you see 5 mexican americans running at you with pepper rifles
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You get me Anri, whats your badge number? Ill arrest you
i am just hoping to see massive missions with loads of swat officers and you commanding them having a sniper in the distance and a proper story like the maps have great story and details it just feels a tad random playing them with only 4 other swat members and the police station feeling oddly empty
Have a question
Does anyone know if for the dev watch you need to do all soft objectives as well? Or is it just the basic ones
None, all you need is no officers being killed or resigned
Gotcha thanks
You have to drink 28 espresso before and after every mission
why cant i find the breaching shotgun did i miss something?
Gunfighter mod related issue
Battering RAM S tier, can smack ppl in HQ
Everything else
any way to make the ai less fucking stupid
Bully Kaminsky
That is more so good for stingers
Are the servers down
Ive been authenticating for 20 minutes
Guess youre fake
restart the game
The breaching shotgun is mad inconsistent. I like running it for the aesthetic, but in practice it leaves a lot to be desired.
Hello everybody I need help with three maps to get S Rank on PlayStation 5.
This actually isn't true; the helmet and ballistic mask prevent all damage to the head until its broken
Helmets and Ballistic Masks can also actually ricochet bullets and take no damage if they do
So the mask is a viable option?
Or the helmet does all of the job
Viable? There's no reason NOT to run it unless you need a Gas Mask; its basically just a better helmet
Correct, double of standard helmet durability and 33% richochet chance instead of 25%
I'm also only guessing ricochets means the helmet loses no durability
You honestly don't realize how good helmets actually are until you try running a mission without one
But like I wanna show my pretty face (me when I use echo characters)
Before this update no helmet option was the same thing as standart helmet 
I don't even know what Echo characters are lmao
thats hysterical lmao
"and thats why they call me Ol Ironjaw"
A trio that are called Echos. They're known for their balaclava masks
But I wanted to do an Officer Loadout aka:
- Light Armor
- No Helmet
- Beanbag Shotgun
- Glock or TPL Pistol
- Taser & CS Gas only
- No Masks
Basically a weaker version of the regular SWAT loadout
I wish we could wear some hats if we are not using helmets
You DO have the beanbag shotgun, but I tried a loadout like this and ended up giving up the run at Greased Palms
I didn't say "Do not use the beanbag"
it took me 3 weeks to beat greased palms and when i did i finally got a+
3 weeks is crazy. Bet it's your favorite map in the statistics
i spent 15 hours beating ides of march so thatās my favorite
i quit for a week cuz of greased palms
Every single map. Every time. Every civilan refuses to surrender. 10/10 experience. I love shooting them in the body.
15 hours on ides is like...How bro? It's not an easy map but it's not that hard
No matter the context, no matter the mission or circumstances. Every single civilian refuses to follow the orders of a heavily armored SWAT officer.
I MUST use tool or bash them in the face (which works instantly kekw) to get them to follow basic orders
I just bash them without even ordering to surrender
Ofc, I just ran a test. What if I don't do that
No point in screaming atp. They just dont care that you're swat
If a civilian refuses to surrender by the 3rd yell, I shoot
I shot every civilian.
I get it if it's like twisted nerve civis(drug addicts and shit) but rest of them like why refusing to surrender
And every single shot I took, I had to stop the bleeding. Enemies do not bleed out even after a shot to the heart with .300 BLK (unarmored)
it was the first mission i tried
i learned how to play on ides of march
Even that is a joke. Not all of them are high during the raid. And even if you are, chances are at least 1 or 2 will surrender when a SWAT team rushes them
Ides of March is the penthouse mission, no?
oh i see. Have to grind the skill a little before going to the harder ones
If so, that's easy. Go around the hallway, wedge all doors.
Clear center room.
Go un-wedge doors and clear rooms one-by-one.
it's hotel mission with vets
There's two of those.
Ides of March is the penthouse. Sins of our Father (IIRC) is the multi-level hotel mission
Am I doing something wrong, is the beanbag shotgun not nonlethal?
yep it's most common tactic i think
Headshots kill
imagine getting shot with beanbag in the head
Oh š
i genuinely didn't know they'd just eat the body shots
i lost a lot of S tiers with these accident headshots while playing with my friend
try out hard diff. they don't care about being shoot with bean at all
the first time i beat it i got s tier though
I just got this game yesterday but everyone makes it sound like hard mode is where Satan resides
Entry team, this is TOC. Put them on safe and let them hang
it is man. i had like 120 hours and all achievements(standart diff S tier every map) and hard diff just made me feel like i just started playing
Is it like a skill diff from standard to hard like no guides?
diff is like suspects shoot you thru the walls; 1shot you in 1 pixel gap and other shit
Hard diff is when pieing corners is pointless as you will immediately get shot in the elbows (skill issue on SWAT part, why is my elbow visible first?) while enemies don't care about any shot that aren't headshots
Hard diff will make you free lean every corner
Heard diff is when you hear a suspect say "yo?" is a quiet manner while 3-bursting your head through a 3mm gap from 50 meters with a 9mm
worthless. elbow shot
still helps a little
an elbow shot is an elbow shot
is it just me or dont yall griddy on the suspect after you kill them cz they was reaching?
It won't deal less damage just because you free-leaned
but it will help you shoot first and not get too exposed
No it won't. Your elbow is exposed first, no matter what
actually i think i'm tired of this game a little. This hard S run is making me insane
Also, I LOVE the streamer.
I kill 3 guys in his apartment.
He wallbangs me.
I wallbang him.
He wallbang me again.
I wallbang him again.
"Is someone in my house?"
deep breaths or smth
r6 level one way pixel peeks and it's a one shot would implant my controller into the nearest wall
It did happen to me like 10 minutes ago. Guy wasn't even in combat mode, just "alert" and went "Yo?" and immediately 3-burst me throuh a 3mm gap from a floow below (streamer map, stairwell) within 100ms
oh man valley of the dolls is crazy
Hard mode should be renamed Unfair mode. Standard used to be the only mode and it was decently balanced if not a little too easy. I havenāt even tried Casual but I assume thatās a cakewalk.
I guess civilians actually surrender sometimes in casual mode /s
You had the misfortune of fighting bullseye š
Must've been the wind
Meanwhile the thugs he hired for protection take his fucking stepmom hostage. š
"Well shit she ain't my mom" -Joe Criminal
God yes, that shit is so funny. At least the mom usually surrenders when I headshot the hostage taker. Hallway civs usually tell me to fuck off after I save them.
Wait that's his mom?
I thought he killed her icl I didn't pay attention
No. That's actually a false call from a viewer. Guy literally gets SWATted like streamers do, except we actually find shit
They are all true soldiers tho, willing to lay down their lives for their crypto mining operation
My playthrough the caller got what they wanted š
Automodded for posting the 911 transcript. SMH.
censored kekw
Basically the swatter says Michael killed his mom and is threatening to do the same to his brother, then himself.
Caller: My name is Michael Williams. I'm currently in Apartment 14 in the San Uriel Condominiums with my piece of shit brother. I'm calling you because I've killed my mother, and I'm going to kill my brother, and then I'm going to kill myself. So, don't come in.```
Yeah, yeah laugh it up!
Somehow I managed to complete that mission while absolutely drunk using only my guns on hard mode. Judge reigns supreme
Mods ban this guy
Circumventing automod smh
How do you do the kill me command?
Road sodas before a mission are completely legal.
try several cocktails, straight gin shots and a few beers
Iām a brandy man myself, gin is nice too.
By killing swat ai officer or any surrendered suspect/civilian
I made a kickass Espresso Martini and a New York Sour.
Ooo sounds lovely.
Your stomach was in WW3 with all those different forms of alcohol.
It's used to it.
The liver is your enemy. Destroy him.
I also made the Espresso Martini with whisky, so the only alcohol difference between that and the NY Sour is the coffee liqueor, which is not that hard on the stomach
The gin is a different beast tho. Got my hands on a bottle of Tanqueray.
I am from the EU, so it's pretty close by š But there are some local gins, they just cost more.
I wasn't (Glock/Tazer/Pepper Spray) and by god was that horrible
I mean, honestly the addition of the beanbag shotgun doesn't make Greased Palms much better lol
I do find this odd. Most civvies are compliant immediately in SWAT 4, and yet literally every fucker in this game gives you shit first, even the women being fucking trafficked in Hide and Seek
Why doesnāt mission countdown continue with majority vote when player fills in, literally waited like 7-8 min because someone kept popping in resetting timer and people never ready up, thatās so annoying lol
I've never played public MP. Is it really that bad?
Hi everyone, new here, just picked up the PS5 version and trying to get through the training. I'm at the very start, just done the first shooting drills and it wants me to select a flashbang to learn to throw them. Opening the item wheel, I move over to grenade and then release L1 but nothing happens, I still have zip ties equipped.
Has anyone else experienced this, am I doing something wrong?
Played this on PC previously but I have an old potato so it never ran well, was excited to play on PS5 and experience it properly but can't get past the first 5 minutes
Did not play it on console, but aren't you supposed to confirm the action via R2 or something?
L1 opens the wheel right? And with the sticks you hover over the equipment, but you should press R2 while hovering over the item to select it? Or that does not work.
Oh my God I feel like an idiot! Yep, select over it then press or hold R2 š¤¦āāļøthe tutorial prompts don't say that though, they just say to hover over it then release L1! Thanks very much
No problem, happens to everyone :D
Why isn't there a police baton in the game
Gameplay isnāt designed for hand to hand combat
Randoms on this game are some of the worst people you will ever play with.
This game is one of the hardest games I have ever played in my life
I played one match on 23 megabytes and dude they all ran in there like hitmen and killed every soul they seen, scariest part was how coordinated they were without saying a word
I get randoms that refuse to ready up, take a year to load in, rush the first room, die, leave.
Rinse, repeat for all 3 other slots.
i join games where all they do is just shoot at the shooting range
joins public match
5/5 slots filled
no mission selected
all of them are in the firing range
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
rejoin
happens again
rejoin
Iād rather get into the match with the guy spouting bible verses.
we all need our Chaplin
@trim dirge most likely gunfighter mod
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Many people who install this game think its fucking COD
Last time I played any "swat" game in MP was SWAT4 like 16 years ago. We spent 30 minutes in prep assigning positions during breaching stacks.
I hope we get more SWAT4 style missions going forward.
That game perfected atmosphere.
i hope they add the pc features to consoles too
like free-look and replay
Literal brain dead, and no one makes load outs and needs to spend the full two min playing Barbie
But yeah say 3/4 are ready and it counts down say last 20 seconds, final guy finally readys up then someone pops in afk and timer resets, annoying feature
bro this game sucks major ass in current state
no hitreg with shotgun in 1m radius is below any comprehension
Reminds me of trolls vetoing in Halo. Wait for the game to fade to black, about to start, then they veto and youāre brought back to the lobby.
literally nothing to do with this shit after 100h
I donāt bother playing anything but casual, always someone wanting to team kill most of time
And ngl wish we could toggle stuns on casual as host, people also love to tase lock you
Just remember; griefers come from broken homes.
They have to take out their frustrations with their lives on others.
Is there no suggestion channel?
Hello, good evening, does anyone know how to inform me about a lighting and image grain bug in the game Ready or Not on the Xbox PC Play Anywhere version?
another s rank ruined at carriers cuz suspect stuck crawling. omfg and u mfs ripped AAA price
apparently censorship was the least shitty thing about it
Censorship wasn't even an issue it's the fact that it's just really laggy
I would've gotten an A+ if it wasn't for the fact that the same thing happened on lethal obsession
It's not laggy it's buggy
Is anyone else having this problem?
Nope
My graphics are just fine
Just go to #šarchived-bug-reports-channel or #1050535723087958156
Thank very much.
No problem
HI
Hi TNT6543 PRO S.W.A.T officer
My copperwir back team just shot me when I killed a hostage taker.
Name an animal that begins the letter B go!
Baby elephant...
Bear.
Bazinga
Three consecutive S Rank Twisted Nerve runs because of weapons disappearing.
I'm embarrassed by how long it took me to find something on one of the DLC missions... walked past it 3 times...
yo can anyone give me tips on the pepperspray rifle I brought 8 mags to s rank valley of the dolls and I ran out when 2 suspects were left. I beat it but i wanna learn how to use it more efficiently bc I js don't know when to stop shooting
Co-op with three others.
if not already, bring a flash launcher, thalll give you a few extra rounds to gain compliance
ive found 2-3 shots with a beanbag shotgun is effective, if you wanna try a different route
If it happens change weapons, you won't be able to use it unless you leave, and don't go into locker while mission is starting, happened a lot to me
I couldn't use any shotgun the entire time after it happened
@gaunt gale did you say that we would get a update/hotfix last week/beginning of the week or am I just having memory issues again?
You're thinking of what I said for this last patch, yaeh
I never gave an ETA on this next patch
It is a 'soon' on the Kaminsky Soon Scale ā¢
Ok thank you, I was wondering if that comment was made or if my bad memory was just messing with me.
Oh no... No no NO NOT THIS ONE AS WELL!! 
(I was in another server where the main developer constantly says Soon, but he haven't updated the game since 2 years from now)
Oh no, no
This is a proven, reliable scale
#š¬general-discussion message
@toxic harness
(I'm still tweaking, but at least it's from a CM, not the main developer himself)
the real ron himself
What? Is he John Ready or Not or what?
rohn ron
Ron up or die!!
or soon ? those '...' make me confused
Basically if the Soon gets trademarked, it's far away. But if it's /soon/, it's actually near
and if it's a plain non-emote soon, it's really, really close
Game crashed at the very end of the level lost 2 hours
When will I kill Amos Voll?
soon.
Are the Epic servers down? It keeps saying I canāt connect to their services
Restart the game
ohh okay thank you
I did like 10 times š š
What do you play on
alright ,cool , thanks
lets hoping that it's drops on Monday
That would be 
bruh just stop pls, u make me wanna go to park home to get some calm me down candy
Yeah, go do that
Who would say no to candy?
Welp, just passed Greased Palms on hard after more than 5 tries. There's just Hide and Seek left for me to finish the base game and get the achievement
are there any custom maps that work with the LSS patch update?
As for now, Relapse is the hardest map to play on hard mode
I would say Hard on Hide or Seek is more hell than Relapse
Hide and Seek was way harder than Relapse
greased palms?
He already beat it
Ok guys, thanks for the positive thinking lol
legend
a lot of candy enthusiast live there, and they making lots of profit from the business too, u should come by sometime
I got the same tactic i used on Relapse: All SWAT mates using shields everytime and wielding the .50 pistol
Their aim with that pistol is pretty good, i gotta say
Is it in 213 Park Avenue?
Yep, that's the place, candy feel real good like it could cure blindness
fuck yeah imma take it
come to the Mojave afterwards
is there a way to tell muzzle velocity of weapons? Ever since I found the obsidian suppressor and know it's a stat, I've been taking longer barreled stuff where it makes sense (ie against likely to be tougher enemies)
Does it actually matter? From my experience enemies are way too bullet spongey for me to notice
wat to do if game crashes on start up
You know how shotguns can stagger enemies a little? that's from the impact force, 7.62 can do it and so can a burst of 5.56 JHP into body armour, I'm willing to bet that's related to the velocity and projectile weight
but in all honesty, more velocity means it'll probably do more damage, that's the bulk of what im worried about
theres weps dat do alot of damage but dont kill like shotguns
I've never had that be a thing, you do so little damage no matter what I've never noticed a difference
shotguns with buckshot have terrible armor penetration
Pumping 4 300 blackout into a barechested tweaker and he still runs up and stabs me with his kitchen knife
so they do like zero damage to the actual enemy
but it stuns them cuz of the stun dmg
My shotgun friends just aim for heads so I haven't seen that happen
for 300 blkout that just means u missed
even the strongest enemy on the game dies in 3 shots
and everyone other than him dies in 2
Bruhh
Anyone be dying a lot in the mission of hide n go seek
I call it the mission of hell
I getcha, the dark map combined with enemies cheeky hiding and iirc a lot having akās makes it a pain
Bro I died like 50 times n get shot in my ashš¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ like 50 times
Itās one of the maps where I heavily recommend full coverage ceramic/steel and a ballistic shield on your back to minimise damage taken
Fr cqb type shi is I how I run it
It doesn't help that the swat ai is equivalent to fucking 5 Helen Kellers
Maybe not even use NVg and just use flashlights for easier direct visual
Yeah well I pop the civils to:
If you want my recommend build for low recoil, I can mention it (lowest recoil or what I run)
I do
Ok letās hear it
Who has the most health? Aiden Hunter, the Black Sentinel leader?
Lowest recoil rifle: SR-16 any sight, SFMB muzzle break and vertical grip. Literal SMG recoil.
My pick: F90 with XE sight, SFMB, Vertical and flashlight.
SMG: UMP9 with their suppressor and IIRC it can have a vertical
Shotguns are not full auto so very easy to control but I recommend 590M for the fastest reload and already quick pump.
Pistol run 5.7 because itās the meta and has most ammo.
For lethal and most times I run 5 primary AP, 3 secondary AP, 1 lock pick gun (the gadget one I forgot name of), and 2 tasters.
I rock da sr -16 with the eotac with suppressor flash sidearm fn or the Glock
I use F90 because bullpup and I like the animations alongside low recoil.
anyone know if there is a mod to make tasers realistic? ie being able to tase a dude again while the barbs are hooked without wasting the second shot?
Fair enough, what I am recommending tho is the lowest recoil setup not optimal
Hy thatās a beast
True
You can melee enemies with taser, dunno if thatās how it works but it can tase
Test it out on the criminal in HQ
Oh the 2nd map is the dolls where u can get shot in da as from the widows or get shot from like a 400 mile awayš
Trust me I will
I have a replay of me not being able to shoot through a weed plantā¦.with .308
Valley of the dolls, pretty much same thing
You have enough ammo for both weapons and can switch if you need it fast.
Oooh, yeah irl you can do that too, if you aren't fully off the trigger you can also tase yourself when reloading cause of that
You are unlikely to miss due to recoil so it becomes a skill and reaction based game
Yeah gotta say I love dat mission bc itās big n lot of areas to clear
there aren't any mods that do that directly but there are that increase shots per mag, but yeah ramming the tazer is infinite and does not use ammo
Lmao yeah I noticed that this mission and have been wacking every smart mouth with it as it doesn't dock points
- ammo saves
yeah, also only thing you can do if your about to arrest someone and they go to stab you
Each taser pick has 3 full mags of 2 shots each, so if you grab 2 of them you have 12 long range for people
headtap.exe
cant shoot them most of the time since they block your gun somehow...
on that one mission from dark waters where you clear out the homeless camp? got rushed like 6 different times with my friend, 4 of those times I shot the fucker before they got to me
maybe they block rifles but that's why you draw your sidearm clearing tight corners
Small CQB weapons (every SMG and F90 my beloved) prove their supremacy.
MP5/10 is fucking OP
I just step back and agro.
I can tank the damage, pull them back and engage them more favourably
3 shots doesnt matter whats chambered 3 shots every time
if they have armour they're staggered, load AP (by ducking into cover) or headtap
I run AP 5.56 so I can pen any surface and armour
until you play hard mode and 9mm doesn't do stun or assign lethal till about 5-7 shots
It personally took me like 3 attempts to S rank it on standard. Just get an idea of the map and be on point I suppose. Pop the hell out of the perps
10mm does, not 9mm
10mm only needs a burst to stagger
there is no 10mm sidearm tho...
In Carriers of the Vine, an audio recording by Elaine Raskin notes that "the program" was closed after "that group attacked the dam" and that "the cohorts have already been established.
Possible dam dlc? š
Scar-H with SFMB and vertical alongside XE sight semi auto is amazing. If needed, full auto can shred.
Donāt use it, put those attachments on the GAās.
oh i didn't see you replying to my sidearm post i thought that was about the MP5/10, but MK-X or USP is great, m45a1/1911 if you don't have the DLC
no I love mp5s even though they dont work well on hard
Real but fr tho the al be knowing when we comin
9mm takes nearly a full mag to drop an armored target on hard. Itās just not viable.
More probably just lore for the MLO and USIA
gunfighter fixed that tho god bless
MP7.
Ohhhhhhhhhh the nightclub mission is hell frrrrrr
Five seveN
Yeah itās the hardest IMO.
For sure dude itās rough š
Iām hoping with the Easter Egg on 3 Letter Triad, that means we will be getting more MLO content. Maybe a revisit to the partially destroyed dam?
A lot have bomb vests, all enemies have rifles, any without vests pretty much have armour, imo they are the least likely to surrender, nauseating visuals and tight yet open angles
do you know how much MOLLE gear rattles even when secured properly? of course they hear you coming
I turned the corner and the mf blew the vest upš¤£š¤£šš
Always an exception. AP works wonders.
Ongggg
Arms or iirc top of the best that doesnāt have the bombs. Donāt wait just kill
Donāt taser too IIRC it explodes then.
So we get switchās on the Glock ??šor no
also, does anyone know how much ceramic can take before it's nullified?
š was running with a bud earlier and had his helmet cam on, im clearing one part of a room and just hear an explosion and his feed blacked out. āYou got hugged huh?ā Loool
I always kill them
man when I saw the pistol brace, i was a little sad it wasn't a glock with magazine choices instead
Ceramic Plates have a durability of 4, Ballistic Masks have a durability of 2, and Helmets have a durability of 1. Ceramic Plates, Ballistic Masks and Helmets block all damage until broken.
Only Ceramic Plates continue to provide a 40% Damage Reduction after being broken.
7.62: Kevlar - 3 Hits, Ceramic - 7 Hits, Steel - 8 Hits.
No. We donāt need it. If you want firepower use the SPC, shotguns 7.62 nato rifles
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Aw dam it but OKY
lovely, thanks
Itās worth noting that according to the sheet, steel is better for rifles while ceramic in all other cases is better.
though keep in mind you usually die before steel or ceramic break
and that's cool to see a game actually showcase that, irl the pile of ceramic shards in your carrier can still slow a round down a ton
Lmaoooo
Just like real life I will NEVER get caught wearing steel plates.
Steel and Kevlar donāt break.
like glock 18 with the fucking beta drum in a brace? fuck yes
I wish Dey had mods for console
- steel is insanely good once you learn how to back off and play like a tank.
You are tanky yess but a frontman first. Take priority agro and give your team cover.
ATF raids the precinct.
typo
I said glock 18, not the blicky with the switch š¤£
one of those is legal for LE š¤£
Iirc steel is 70% damage reduction, Kevlar is 50%, and ceramic is 100% unbroken and 40% broken.
You said the b word that reclassifies any sidearm to an assault weapon! š±
Kevlar no speed penalty per āplays, ceramic 5% speed penalty per plate, steel 20% per plate
yeah I dont like turning pink when 9mm hits my chest
so steel front only is actually the move?
Crazy part is when you shoot them they shoot back n kill u one hit
We are a ceramic front/back household. You get your things and get out!
headtaps my beloved
No. According to the stat sheet steel is not as effective against everything. It is god tier against rifles.
Also any parts you do not choose plates for are automatically Kevlar
Ido they ah drop like soap
most ppl use full ceramic but steel can work, not recommended though since movement speed means your often getting shot more while you slice
WAIT SO ITS NOT ACTUALLY UNARMORUED?
If you run front only I recommend a shield to cover your back given unexpected enemies. Back shields are still bulletproof
that explains the KG-99 i ate to the back not doing as much as it should've lmao
No, as stated earlier Kevlar is 50% damage reduction and doesnāt break. Heavy armour gives you shoulder protection and iirc side torso protection.
Which we had a k9 tho
Fuck no some guys would shoot it, same with suspects
then the team should kill you like normal lmao
You can tell what armor your friends are running by how many shots they take without dying. The round penetration sound byte is louder than the rest of the game.
Theyāll keep killing dogs, we canāt afford to add them because of both dumb ass hell backlash and that they might make it mandatory criteria for s ranking
Nah dude itās pretty much mandatory. They will harass you for not using light armour ceramic.
this game is always going to get backlash when will the devs learn that? trying to avoid it is like trying to navigate a minefield after your footsteps have been filled in
I would not want to send a dog into a barricaded house with an armed suspect. But at the end of the day, a dogās life isnāt as valuable as a humanās. So Iām conflicted.
you might miss most of the mines, but all it takes is one to have a real bad day, and it'll probably be entirely unexpected
What I love about steel is consistency and it forces you to PLAY SLOWLY. you cannot rush you have to play smartly and it feels rewarding
not gonna lie, you'd never make handler with that mentality
My friend told me there is no sprint trying to not get my hopes up and i'm just like "You don't sprint in CQB, thats how you eat a magazine before your team even gets in the room"
Human life is placed as a priority due to species bias and intellect. I view us as all equal, not the same but equal. I would rather die then see a dog that has proven its value to be dead.
The dog we would get in ready or not earned this protection.
paramedic did paramedic things, how long is my incapped dude out for?
He will not die before me.
SWAT teams send in their K9ās without backup a fair amount.
Space bar is the āsprintā by lowering or raising your weapon.
What about me? I use Ceramic Front Only but I have shield behind me
No dessert.
Yeah but we all arenāt mentally swat. We are more emotional or unable to suppress it, if he kills my dog Iām killing him
there should be a little number next to them if you open the department roster
I told him that actually I went "In S4 there was a way to lower your rifle for faster movment? is that not there anymore?"
OH COME ON
Idk, but suspect wise if the mission doesnāt end fast they will die.
Oh you do commander mode
also how is this dude content after watching 8 men and his friend get gunned down 𤣠this sanity system feels so scuffed
Judge iirc is canonically a super (police) soldier
If they added dogs to the game and one did die on a mission, everyone resigns out of support for the animal.
He is a USIA experiment implanted into the LSPD
I just got the game so i'm doing it at least once, then me and my friend do 2 man shenanigans on hard mode
Understandable crashout
In the RoN timeline, MK Ultra never ended and was refined over the years to make super soldiers.
no no, if you kill the dog your save just wipes with a cutscene of judge being thrown into the cells š¤£
Many things. We never pulled out of Vietnam and iirc won by putting even more into the conflict.
Achievements. Gone. Temp ban. And a dev writes a review on your account lol.
oml my sides
Not only that but los suenos which is supposed to be los angelos is differently placed geographically to be around or inside of Texas maybe?
The border walls on Rust Belt lead me to believe itās SoCal.
Maybe, but itās definitely not where los angelos is
Its both close to a desert, the border and the coast
And 3 Letter Triadās unfinished resort is on a peninsula.
San Fran has a peninsula.
Yeah but Tbf some guy dmed judge and pretty much told him āyo you should like go there because we said soā
Average government explanation.
LAPD has insane jurisdiction overrides in RoN lore lmao
paramedic is absolutely OP, not only is the guy still alive, only 2 missions!
I mean in ready or not lore the militarised police was a necessity and not a way to keep them ahead
Imagine being coast guard and seeing a rhib boat pull up with 5 swat guys. Iād be like āhell yeah less paperwork!ā.
I would literally swing my rifle to my back and light a smoke š¤£
it's very nice for not having to go grind more traits lol
given how short the campaign actually is, seems pretty important not gonna lie
you could really mess yourself up without a skilled paramedic, also does it work on himself?
Guys in the operating room with no anesthesia just going to work on his own torso.
Badass.
not the OR, the skill implies he is TEMS
so no he's just laying there up against a wall with a morphine lolly and a staple gun š¤£
Right about to type that lol
They also got those scissors that cut through anything. That could be considered a weapon!
š¤£
is the AI different now
VR mode will be a wild one
i just watched my fren die on standard mode with full steel armor
it feels like S4 ai with the mandatory mod, do with that as you will
I just want kbm support for console
VR mode id get drunk and walk around the gas station map looking for snacks.
and get headeyesd by a tweaker from across the lobby
Painful for us experts
which AI and in what way
they do seem to be reacting a lot faster than most gameplay i've seen
āYo is anyone gonna check me ou-ā
Instantly shot with both barrels of a cut down 12 gauge
Iāve been to scarier gas stations than that! You just gotta know how to talk to tweakers.
i had to pull out the ga51 and actually hold the aim button
afaik, nope
when before on standard mode i wuld just low ready and just react faster
wasnāt hard the standard game mode before 1.0 or something
Standard is the "same" difficulty that the game was operating on before difficulties were added with LSS.
(not counting changes to AI behavior, gas nerfs, etc)
Weird it doesnāt have it. The one game it would work for without ruining the online experience for others.
gas nerf? im under the assumption its a bug
Iād like to see LMG users get nerfed in the next big update. No way is anyone gonna shoulder fire a M249 with perfect accuracy while strafing between rooms.
Well they're retired veterans and they're hella cracked irl
if they r so good y r they retired
Even the female insurgents on Relapse shoulder fire the RPKs! Iām not saying itās impossible, but the accuracy they have while doing it is.
They wanna live in a city life like the Great Gatsby
Not to mention the bots that can full auto the M14⦠they gotta teach me that one.
they usually miss with it
With enough training, you can become a true killing machine with no flaws
Maybe we should get a lmg ⦠m60e3
It ain't, it was nerfed.
Values were intentionally changed.
#š¬general-discussion message
(relevant video)
you can use a keyboard but not a mouse
Your legs are just giant bipods. Fact.
Damn so it was a nerf all along...
is it me or is the front door on gas station bullet proof for swat but not for enemies
No they just suck
There are a bunch of WW2 relics on Stolen Valor. Would love to get my hands on the Browning M1919A4.
the guy was standing still so i shot the window to kill him but nothing happened, so i shot 2 more times and then he started shooting back and it hurt me
anyone know why my swat ai is not shooting suspects?
I see that but im pretty sure its still bugged. I shot 3 rounds into the server bathroom in 23mbps and it had no effect on the occupants
I wanna use the BAR
Thereās a bazooka in the armory too. š
glass is bulletproof, the thin metal frame is not
lmao
I love bulletproof glass!!!!
Gas station thugs are real life r6 champions confirmed here with this
The radius is so wildly small. You gotta understand.
They can stand on the edge of it in fucking closets lmao.
It used to be 8 meters, lmao.
gas nades r basically for keeping a surrendered dude perma stunned so u can get them later
Aha! So the M320 Stinger does have less range! I knew it!!!
Opinions on M32A1 launchers
Overpowered, cringe
Gay
Not like it matters.
Just boring imo
The unique weapons theyāve added for the console release have kinda lost their luster. I hope thereās a good bit of time before they add more āunorthodoxā weapons.
The only thing I hate with the Beanbag shotgun
- Can be inconsistent that if you shoot them as they shoot, they won't register
- The only viable non lethal option if didn't get the M32A1s
that circle is not 3 meters tho... dafuq?
Beanbag shotgun and Stingers got me through the entire game on S just fine. Port was the only issue but Iām John Wall with the Stingers.
like a 450cm radius circle circle is 9m wide. that circle in the picture has a radius of no more than a meter...
why would they do that intentionally?

it's larger than I've drawn, but you have to keep in mind that the point of origin is on the floor, so the circle of effect is half-sunken into the floor
you can be standing "inside" the edges of the zone (above it) but not be hit by it because of where the "interaction" zone is on the playermodels
the video represents it better, you have to be very fucking close
the throwable gas is more bearable, but still fails to properly gas suspects because the stun timers were increased too much, suspects can just walk out of it
Have any of you accidentally killed someone with a Stinger yet?
Iām surprised I havenāt.
They have to be extremely injured, stinger kills don't really happen in normal gameplay (on suspects)
Yeah I was thinking youād have to tag them while they run away bleeding out.
yeah, I get what your saying. its just them doing this intentionally makes no sense...
Someone deliberately changed the numbers on each gas grenade, as well as increased the stun timers on Standard and Hard difficulties.
And then at the same time they released the M32A1 
"all is balanced"
thats why im wondering if they made a mistake while entering numbers
If nothing is balanced, everything is balanced. - Sun Tzu (probably)
how is it almost 2026 and this game is like kyle rittenhouse claiming to be a tier 1 operator i stg
$40 indie game btw
also the cs gas issues has not been tagged as fixed in #archived-known-issues
well studios of Void's size don't have a "director of gameplay balance" who cares about the sandbox (it's not needed), I'm sure there's like 1-2 dudes who just set things to whatever they feel like with whatever feedback they've seen
Theyāre too busy making guest appearances on the Jonathan Ferguson YT channel.
time go fkn play Zero Hour until further notice this shxt is insane
Buy SWAT4 on GOG for $5.
they even messed up the audible from the operator telling a compliant sus/civ to turn around lol its wild
we need a mod where civs start bussin it down on neon tomb
Well Kam has my video now, so I expect to see it changed. (else I'm blowing him up)
Else it's becoming my new "fix pls" spam too
o dude ya i feel that...SEF mod kept that game alive . i used to play w real mfs on that back in the day s4 and rainbow 6 ravenshield.... sasclan.org was amazing in its prime
Hell yeah man, always good to meet a fellow appreciator.
ppl dont know how to do a 5 man stack to save their life nowadays its so sad
You say pie a door, they get hungry.
o same my dude!
thanks for making the video, very informative
hahaha exactly
@crude prism when you gonna become a dev or the next cm
we need you now more than ever 
bring back EEZSTREET lol
forward that to Kaminsky rn
Bro made that game even better than it was originally. I hope heās doing good wherever he is.
ddue for real...so shitty how void did him on this game tbh
what happened with him?
When they decide to give me a salary lmao.
Honestly I'd be happy to help even unpaid (I do), but there's not really a place for them to be paying me, lol.
But I'm not a game designer, coder, or artist, I'm just a spreadsheet autist (I've been doing these for a while)
Could do some kind of QA work I guess, but again, no professional experience, just my own stuff on gmod and stuff
some dramatic bs early on in the games dev and he left i dont remember exactly how it went down
eez has been hanging out in NDAcord again recently
I know a dev team left when making Elephant and Neon Tomb, but it's not because of developing those maps but rather something else
"I wasnāt fired, Iām not sure whether I can discuss it. Wouldnāt really be professional either way. Itās fairly personal as well" - eezstreet this was from the ready or not channel in duerags discord
someones just gotta go ahead and make Swat 5 somehow i swear...leave this game and void in the dust, collab with guys from GBRS or something and get some actual tier 1's to help make a real tactical game for a change.
damn
automod is lovin this message every time you edit it
fr?
4 so far lmao
battlefield 6 is just another arcade bs shooter i literally cant take any more on the unrealism that has plagued mil shooters
"MMMM is doing a heccin TOS-adjacent in roncord, please look"
bro what?
yep sprinting around in a war zone - super realistic, hell tf no
Insurgency has changed hands so many times in the past few years, archiving it all is near impossible. If those devs got with RoN devs they could create the perfect game with their shared knowledge.
I was thinking about playing Insurgency
ya somebodys gotta step to the plate and make a big boy tactical game somehow its nuts
I will forever shill Sandstorm.
Why don't you make the game then?
Ins2014 is great too.
give me a million dollars in funding sure les go lol
Other games can be created by using scraps and junk! You can be the next Tony Stark for "true" tactical shooters
maybe the problem is devs aren't listening to actual tier 1s or even high level irl swat operators etc they just half bake concepts and run w it
Insurgency and RoN exist in what I like to call the ātactical liteā space. Just enough realism to be fun, without the commitment of a milsim. Not many games fit that niche, especially on console.
ya i wish dawg i could layout the concepts thta i think would play well but i dont know jack about 1s and 0s wen it comes to making a game lol
Plus if I truly want a real simulation, I can attend a MilSim airsoft event
Youād end up hearing more complaining about cheaters there than on the game lol
feel thta for sure
If that doesn't work, fuck it imma join the military or police duty at this point
Insurgency is literally just call of duty but in permanent hardcore HP mode
letās start a petition for MMMMās own position on VOIDs team
Yeah, that would be the realistic plan
I take great offense to that comment.
LOL ya tbh i been thinking of going reserves and getting into law enforcement before i get too old
Might as well if we REALLY want a TRUE realism
but shall see i regret not joining in my early 20s tbh
I love insurgency, but it's nothing more than "fast paced deathmatch" on the worst day and "slightly slower deathmatch" on the best.
(I've got over 1k in INS:S)
damn
hahahah for reall.. sadly GWOT is over so not much going on...but then again 4,000 marines just got deployed to the caribeaan to combat cartel terrorism or something like that i was reading earlier
Hah. I don't need to be a member of Void to point out problems to them, I'm happy not to be roped into whatever drama they get involved in.
I couldn't hang out in here casually with a red name XD
I'd get just as much flak as Kam if not more
youād get hazed youāre not wrong š
"why is my game crashing?! FIX YOUR GAME!!!"
Ins started out as the antithesis of CoD, that was Mikeeās mission statement. Game is a shell of what it once was, updates every ~5 months if youāre lucky, no hotfixes or patches.
I stick to hardcore modes, but Iāll definitely say PvP isnāt something I enjoy on there unless itās one life modes or the occasional LTGM.
I love repetitive simple satisfying shooters (DRG, HD2, INS:S, RoN), deathless is the goal in coop modes.
The PvP is really fucking cooked and has been since launch.
They never really expanded the AI modes, or long-standing issues with PvP.
It's kinda just been stagnating ever since they had development troubles pre-release.
(cancelled the story mode right before launch, got the team shrunk multiple times)
Now we get like 2 weapons and 1 map every 12 months
We get post modern weapons and Airsoft cosmetics nowā¦
RoN bots make Sandstorm bots look perfect by comparison.
The cancelled story mode still irks me. I hope Exiles gets put back on track. But Iām not holding out hope.
I wonder, if I log into sandstorm is the Val and Honeybadger still gonna say like "600 pen" (among the highest in the entire game) but actually be about 50 still?
They don't penetrate anything
Unusable past 40m
AS VAL is a joke. A 6 point joke, and no oneās laughing.
Subsonic moment
The old guy who did weapons animations left for CoD (like most of the team did) and the new guy just doesnāt have it down yet.
Iām surprised we are even getting a Year 4. I want the game to succeed, I love it regardless of its flaws.
Just like this game!
The sufferring is innate to the tacticool genre
Plus if you have a community that is very bipolar like COD, you're cooked no matter what
Are you really cooked though
For as much as the average COD player bitches they buy every game as soon as it comes out
Yeah cuz you can't satisfy them no matter what
Seems like the opposite of cooked to me
It's like a toxic relationship that they love you for doing something, but it's so difficult to satisfy them on something that isn't "new"
CoD gave up on appealing to their veteran audience. It now tries to appeal to the most audiences as possible, and is rather successful. The Fortnitificationā¢ļø of video games will be our downfall.
I think it's cooked
If you look at reputation yeah, but if you look at the numbers COD is the best seller (in the US) every year for the past decade unless Rockstar releases something
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Plus a lot of people be assuming I don't shower cuz I like cod... but like you have other games like WoW, Valorant and other games
Is uh, there no weapon unlocks in this game?
There's only the triple weapon pack (console only)
PC players will have it, no matter what
It builds character. Weāve been character building for so long nowā¦
But consoles... Deluxe edition or preordered folks will have it
ahhhh okay i see
I was about to say why would they give them anything exclusive after the flak they took for the changes required to bring it to console
as a dev i'd be doing the bare minimum to bring it online at that point š¤£
Reintroduce the Supporter Edition unlocks
Make the DLC pack $45+
???
Profit
I love the "suffering builds character" cycle, yet I'm still the same person as before
the bags under my eyes have grown
as a vr tarkov player, I feel that
VR and Tarkov? Thatās 2 strikes.
tarkov runs at like 40fps normally, do you get 2 whole fps in VR
My bags are darker, I'm more stressed than the average In Crisis Officers, but everything else is the same
lmao, its called contractors exfilzone, dw i stay off the weird shit, i mostly play shooters and shit on there for extra training
I can see my gray hair tf
Iāve had a patch of gray in my beard since Iāve been able to grow it.
Result of stress, and genetics. Mostly stress.
i'm noticing a lot more mature people in here, did they finally make a shooter parents wont let their kids play?
I could hardly grow a beard to begin with. But I have only few gray hair
i mean i know why but i'd figure a lot more games meet that mark but i don't see this chat being overrun with children like i do so many others
There are under 17 folks playing btw
there are everywhere but in some discords (like my VR shooters) it's really bad
General Discussion can get a little⦠zoomerish. Other than that Iāve had good conversations with everyone here.
Idk what games I want to play without seeing a handful of folks saying "oh the game fell off hard. Game is dead lol"
Like come on at least have some damn hope
I never really got into extraction shooters. A little Division here and there but thatās it mostly. The PvE Tarkov stuff looks kinda interesting.
COD, sports games and free always online "Battle royale" control the market.
sadly always has
honestly the dark zone is so much more fusterating in div 2 than most extraction games
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"COD players will continue to buy the game each year until they don't have enough money to" - Me, probably
you don't have to deal with some idiot going jammer pulse incendiary roller bomb gg no re in most extraction games, just an impact grenade or flashbang headeyes
āUbisoft gameā means itās plagued with hackers on release.
Thatās the Ubisoft guarantee!ā¢ļø
meh in Div2 the skill gap can be so large you dont even need to cheat
Meanwhile me playing South Park games seeing the Ubishit stuff
i haven't noticed many in my time but i stopped playing for several reasons
as someone who isn't american i saw them assaulting the white house and just went "do i let this play out, might be better off" š¤£
obviously given thats the tutorial thats before i even know the president is already missing
Division 2 is a 1:1 recreation of DC. Virginia just looks like that lmao.
I donāt even try to care about the plot in a Ubisoft game (besides Far Cry). First thing I do is turn off voices, then turn off subtitles. Pure gameplay, the only thing theyāre even remotely competent at.
And theyāre only competent at it because they copy and paste the exact same game over and over again.
this lmao, I played breakpoint and was like "this feels a lot like the division with less tech and more co-op"
my friend bought it for me and i honestly feel bad he wasted his money cause that shit was garbage wouldn't catch me playing it without a player team
and even then its only entertaining because of just how dumb the AI is
Wildlands is actually really solid no lie. Just looks awful on modern consoles. Needs a FPS boost.
poor fucker paid full price for the best edition for me too

idk why he'd do that cause I flat out told him "if you wanna get it for me i might run it with you sometimes but I hate ubisoft they aren't getting my money with how dirty they did my boy Fisher"
call me crazy but pandora tomorrow was the last good splinter cell game
(sorry for derailing chat someone say something RoN related š¤£)
I liked Double Agent on the PS2. Found out years later there was a different build of the game for every console it released on, and none of them played the same.
Really? I never knew that at all, I also played the older games on PS2, tried a newer one at a friends house and was very let down
I still have an old fat PS2 in excellent condition, I might have to go and get those again
doing valley of the dolls whats the pistol with the most stopping power
i need to maximize legal kills here š¤£
Big fan of the USP45, good irons too
great irons but aren't optics a flat buff?
Get blamed for locking certain stuff behind expensive DLC
Get blamed for giving early-early access 4 times to Supporters even though them builds were barely playable
Remove the DLC because it served its purpose
Get blamed for not offering the DLC
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or does ounces make kilos actually apply here since there is no weight stat visible
I believe so. I just find it blasphemous to pimp out a sidearm.
I do sometimes but not a USP, they were built to be used in the SOCCOM config
Tbf if you paid $120 for the early access version of the game you deserve to have lost that money lmao.
it actually is less reliable without the suppressor thats designed for it, it's still a very reliable pistol but it was designed and balanced around it's can, an MRS and that bulky ass laser
For sure on the laser and barrel. Itās the red dots that bug me the most.
Different strokes and all that.
for me the thing that bugs me most is the m11 compact š¤£
get that P320 the fuck out of my armory
it should have a chance to plug you in the leg on transition š¤£
you know, realism and all that
oh, it's hammer fired, i guess that is a 226 instead
i deadass did not notice the hammer it blends into the menu too well
To make a realistic SIG the night sights have to have gone out completely before you even get it home.
i am thinking about giving my ai teammate a riot shield, how does it even work? i mean how can i get them to equip it?
they can use it when breaching a room
If you give them a move and clear command I believe they will have it equipped when breaching, you can also tell the teammate to deploy it
thanks
They use it when using the clear or stack command
By:
early-early access
I imagine he's referring to the times where supporter edition owners got early access builds to updates for early access versions of the game he isn't talking about early access versions in general. If we want to say early access versions of the game were unplayable in general than they were no more unplayable as RoN is now.
i suggest using the split stack as they tend to get into position quicker
yeah sometimes they're forced to do one side only since there's no space i think on the other
iām sad i didnāt snag the supporter when it was out
yup, they are adaptive like that
same where if your in diamond or wedge they default to double file then single if there is no space
also, I haven't bothered to shoulder check, does diamond have a dude on the six actually looking behind us?
i think all of them have
like they watch the same direction its just their positioning
ouch, that's not great
irl diamond only works because of the extra coverage you get
same with wedge except it concentrates it on your flanks
ie everyone should be covering their own sectors for that shit to work even remotely
You didn't miss on literally anything, considering the Supporter cosmetics were and still are bugged, especially in multiplayer.
i could care less if they are bugged they let me reminisce how long iāve played the game šš
this is the 3rd station now right?
The lingering bugs and the old ones do that for me for free 
rip mlo š
quick question, valley of the dolls, do I actually need to be worried about a wayward bullet? threat level suggests bring AP, brief also suggests overpen is a major issue
i know IRL you'd get in shit if a bullet hit a stray property, but if that isn't a threat to my score i'm bringing all AP
(And no, I don't think this breaks my immersion too much as I'd just consult with people anyways if I was unsure if it would be worth the cost of having to shoot more)
what's the difference between hrt shield and tactical shield
is it just the looks?

yes

One lets you surf and the other doesn't
The suspects use armor, but a lot of maps have armor. That map in particular does feel like it has a lot of civs though, but not sure which map actually has the most, maybe elephant
And now we need a mod that does that 
.300 blk or .308 cal with JHP is 1-2 hit incap on those blokes (or virtually any other for that matter)
I'm running Mk17 w/ JHP all day and one or two tap enemies
A friend of mine runs a 5.56 AR build with AP and does more or less the same so..
Epic, I took 2/2 with the LVAR, an MP9 with all JHP and a beanbag guy with an AP Five seveN... regretting that last one but I realized after I had already hit start.. everyone else has USPs with one mag of each
I think if I wanna redo this, I'm gonna switch the MP9 to MP5/10 and all sidearms to the USP firing JHP.
𤣠holy shit that went so sideways
and I got headshot, judging by the instant death and my vision suddenly a hole pooling with blood
Guards wearing only level 2 armor here, so you don't need AP ammo on rifles or mp7, p90 and five-seven guns
Cheers yeah I switched it all down to JHP
the shields keep their five seven because its the only way they can stay engaged for more than 3 seconds
For the tactician achievement is the AI allowed to use their weapons?
OH FUCK, I JUST SNIPED A CIV
The guard at the door was there and ducked inside...
thought it was him in my sight picture, sniped a damn civ
clean headshot...
no one cares
Camera Unlocker mod.
no one cares
I know this is a shity com
I was chatting with people earlier, besides your bitching about it being dead so i'm just yapping
can a mod dm me what got me filtered so i don't do it again
I donāt know what it is about this game, but it seems to attract some really miserable people sometimes
indeed.
I met great people on RoN, never really ran into someone I disliked, then again I played with people from #šlooking-for-players
sheesh we gotta even fix that, everyone jump him
Recording replays and then using the free roam camera to take screenshots while viewing the replay
I like the fact where I get shot in 10 different areas and go to the next mission like new, But the NPC fold like laundry and die to never be seen again-
Better entry for dorms?
Any news/ideas from the Devs around when next update is coming? I have put RoN down for a bit as I'm waiting for it :/.
Dorms as in?
the map
Do you have dark waters?
yes
Are the guns any good?
I don't know the specific guns but I been liking the SR-15 or wtv its called
Let me check the wiki
I was close, the SR-16
Oh
it shoots quick and has good amount of bullets in its mags
Also wait, Micheal Streaming user is: MilkyToes?
Been away for a few weeks, not caught up with anything, did they fix their shit yet?
What I gathered from this is that it is very close. I.e "soon"?
its most likely "soon" as in "yeah I'll get it done" but in normal development fashion, it takes forever
the comedic soon⢠saying meaning its coming but definetly not soon or not at all
I swear to God the second I start reloading it wants to take a year and turn the enemies into navy seals
It's some bullshit
Hi everyone
Anymore mod recommandations? So far got bodycam, rico toc, police yells and Gunfighter working
Depends on what you like. Weapon mods? Soud mods? AI mods? More grenades?
General recommandations, what are your favourites ?
Well, I got QoL, which sorts missions lorewise chronologically, removes the announcement at HQ, gives you AI SWAT bots in multiplayer matches. I use gunfigher grenade pack for 9 bangers, as those do not flash you and just flash the enemy (they give you the red screen stun and stagger), I use Scar H/L from one creator, I use MCX Spear, MG338, Kriss Vector, some shotgun and secondary mods. I also use Uncensored or Not to remove the hidden graphical details that were removed. I probably use a lot more, but those are the ones I can think of from the top of my head.
Is the Lumen mod still working?
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If you mean the one with watches, no. It is not updated for LSS and apparently is missing according to comments under the mod.
Any other way to get Lumen for LSS?
You could perhaps do it on your own, but the mod creator has put that you need to ask permission before modifying his mod. In any case I have no idea how as I am not a modder. In #š§modding-chat 's pinned messages, there is the Ready or Not modding server where someone could perhaps help you.
Arlight thanks, ill have a look
I'm going to go in every mission now and kill everyone IDC anymore im pissed, I just lost an A+ solo hide and seek, to the bdsm asshole in all leather, I'm going back and dumping 6 whole mags into his forehead
The one time I don't try and kill someone he shoots me in the forehead and I die
And now I want him dead for the next 50 missions
Any advice on the Sleeper Agent achievement (solo)?,just spent the last hour tying to lock down and move suspects all into one room but usually my AI keep making a mind of there own and arresting them, even whilst holding positions
Been told you can kinda go guns blazing but it requires some hectic RNG
If you do it like that then you canāt use SWAT AI cause they will go off on their own.
Only strat that works with swat Ai is the guns blazing
What is the best starting point for dorms
