👮ron-discussion

[timber fjord]

welp i already failed, only found 2 suspects in time, fuck this is hard

idk where to even search

[desert island]

i would love to see if the CIA got an order to fix the economy

[noble pasture]

White quad nods, plate carrier, 5 grand M4, 2 grand glock, etc

[timber fjord]

i got a good 5 point run...

[noble pasture]

It would be done by the end of the week

[desert island]

well once u kno the map u can just run thru it really fast

[timber fjord]

yea i gotta memorize where to search, thing is a mess

[noble pasture]

Civilians are a pain on Elephant

[desert island]

u just ignore the civilians until after

[noble pasture]

They tell me to eat their ass while an active shooter is ongoing

[desert island]

and ignore the bomb

CIA gets an order and they immediately bribe politicians to put america first for once

[timber fjord]

omfg i got three guys but the other was on the other fking side

i have to do this in 3min and 15secs

[noble pasture]

CIA locks in and America recovers

[desert island]

imagine if america lobbied our politicians to fix our problems more than the corporations and foreign interests do

they wuld get it done so fast

[desert island]

yeah basically splash them with flashgun, have swat ai secure them and keep goimg

[zenith shoal]

Hihi

[desert island]

and use antiflash goggles so u can do it in close range

u can also use light ceramic armor

frontplate only for more speed

[timber fjord]

i just rush in with my shotgun

[zenith shoal]

I heard you shouldn't use steel plate cause it can explode and injure you if it gets shot

[desert island]

u can bring battering ram if u dont wana use flashgun

u shuldnt use steelplate cuz
slows u down too much
u still take dmg

[timber fjord]

oh yea. Do they also spawn on the same floor or both?

ik one is near entrance, 1 in library and 2 others idk

[desert island]

they basically have fixed spawns and rng picks which ones

[timber fjord]

oh fuck

watch me spend 3 hours on this map

[desert island]

theres a spawn in the lecturehall, computerlab, classrooms, near big stairs, library, hallways

also the dining area

[timber fjord]

in kinda figuring it out but i flashed an enemy and it also flashed one of my guys so thats a no go

[desert island]

do they got the flash goggles on

[amber dock]

if it's Ai you're playing with flash doesn't affect them

like their accuracy and vision is the same

[timber fjord]

yea but it does friendly fire and i need S rank

[desert island]

u get a friendlt fire penalty tho if no goggles

[amber dock]

oh that yeah I see

I forgot if them using launcher avoids that problem

I think it does

but I haven't played with the Ai in a long time

[desert island]

flash > stinger

cuz goggles stop self stun and frenly fire dmg

[timber fjord]

i still cant figure out WHERE TO SEARCH OMG

[desert island]

u can use the failed runs to explore where the guy was for next time

[zenith shoal]

I wish I didn't look at what they censored for console release because I spoiled the shit out of myself

[timber fjord]

yea he was between two stairways in a room

[desert island]

yeah stairways is a spawn

[timber fjord]

i killed more civs than the suspects lol

[desert island]

and classrooms

[timber fjord]

and library but fuck me its gonna take some time to get the perfect spawns

[desert island]

yeah u culd always just ram doors and only check common locations

and ignore uncommon rooms until u get lucky

[timber fjord]

i just flashed him and he kept RUNNING WTF

and they already killed a hostage like 1 min into the run wtf

[desert island]

well its a luck based mission

[golden terrace]

hello, thinking about buying Ready or Not.. how easy would it be for me to find a group to play with in evenings as a noob?

US east coast

[desert island]

i only play wit frens

[timber fjord]

if i do a mission in multiplayer and i get S rank, does that transfer to commander?

[amber dock]

The grade and time yes

But as for progress I can't say for sure

[timber fjord]

alright tyy

i was so close to getting it, i had checked library but he was hidden, took 1 min until he killed a civ

[desert island]

u get the time, grade, and achieveo in multiplayee

and commander

u just dont get the mission progression in commando

[spark field]

I mean SMU and CIA work hand in hand DEVGRU, CAG and 75th RRC work with the CIA Exclusively

[desert island]

CIA vs mossad

[timber fjord]

I DID ITT LETS GOO, TIME TO FIND CIVS

[twin musk]

NIICE

YOU WILL NEVER FIND THEM

[desert island]

u will use unauthorized use of force on them

[timber fjord]

im fucking uninstalling this game.... i somehow DID FRIENDLY FIRE OMG IM GONNA UNALIVE MYSELF THESE STUPID NPCS

so i gotta do this 20 million more times

just my luck, after i finish it im doing war crimes for days

[desert island]

well u just started and u almost did it wit no experience

[timber fjord]

true

somehow there were 2 at the library or atleast 1 was near, ill double check next time

[desert island]

s rank is min maxing ur room checking thoroughness and speed

[golden terrace]

are the expansions worth it? do people actually play them?

what the heck is this slowmode? why?

[timber fjord]

yea i didnt check well enough cuz the fucker was in the smallest room possible

[desert island]

if u kno some who has it u dont need to buy it cuz host shares it

they r good but i dont think they r worth buying

also slowmode is cuz the mods r strange ppl

[golden terrace]

🤣

[golden terrace]

cheers

[timber fjord]

finally got S rank on the worst map possible

Took so long...

been almost 2 hours

after this they should make a war crime dlc ngl

[north wave]

Yeah, I played Elephant on S rank with my friends. There was 4 of us and we tried for 1 hour before getting our S)

[timber fjord]

Jesus, that mission is a pain.

[north wave]

Suspects spawn is the key thing in this mission. Full randomness

And they are always spawning in the smallest rooms with civ inside

[grand stag]

how many hours you guys have on the game? when does it get boring/did everything?

[amber dock]

200 hours

that includes all maps,achivements, everything basically

With like 50 of those hours helping others with random stuff

[twin musk]

about 100+ hours

S ranked every mission and got every achievement, but i always find it fun to mod my loadout or play with friends on modded maps

[heady spade]

Is slowmode here so ungodly aswell?

[vernal bane]

500+, but that’s because I speedrun the game.

I’d say 450 hours is dedicated to running, 10 hours of pubbing, 10 hours for both DLCs, 20 hours to solo the game S%, then the rest of the hours are from EA -> 1.0 release playing casually/with mods

Bear in mind I do not have Ironman achievement, because I can’t be bothered to play with the AI

[timber fjord]

i told my brother about this game and asked if he wanted to get it to play together since it's still at a discount, he said he doesn't know yet😓😓

[fluid depot]

You torture someone in the singleplayer

[timber fjord]

ahh i just like it when a suspect just spawns in a room i cleared

how come when i let an enemy kill me it takes 3 mags but this guy killed me in like 5 bullets?

[desert island]

rng

u culd get lucky and get shot 10 times in the head and not die

[tacit turret]

I physically can’t get S tier on Valley of the Dolls, I mean I bet I could, but it feels morally wrong to let them survive.

[desert island]

killing them wuld b too easy

[fluid depot]

Currently at >10,000 negative reviews in the past week on Steam. If every one of those refunded that would be >$500k

[tacit turret]

I cuff them and have fun

[desert island]

voll didnt kill himself

[stable kernel]

Brixley used to that’s for sure

[amber dock]

He stiill does

Just not as often

[acoustic socket]

can i find players to play with in this server

[desert island]

not when im on the case

[amber dock]

Same with Daniella UFC moves

[desert island]

y does she attack police

[stable kernel]

Strong Romanian woman punch hard that’s why

[amber dock]

Uhmmmmmmmmm source?

[desert island]

does the woman on port attack police

[amber dock]

Mods fact check this green role

[golden terrace]

I’m probably gonna buy it tonight, looks like an awesome game.

[rich quartz]

How do I get
Him too?

[stable kernel]

Source: my achievements on Ron

[desert island]

this guy died to a woman

[amber dock]

You got killed by mexican maid voice line woman not Daniellq

I was there with you

[amber dock]

Same like any other suspect just stun him more

[desert island]

they should make all criminal civilians throw hands

[stable kernel]

Pat

[amber dock]

Eman

[stable kernel]

I got it on 1.0 launch before I met you

Don’t lie

[amber dock]

Wow

Wait

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-17038186950213244823

Oh right

It waa not you

Sorry.

[stable kernel]

So long ago

This is me

[amber dock]

I wish i met you earlier

Cant change the past

[stable kernel]

Nice guns

Help they’re killing us!

[zenith shoal]

Hi chat

[desert island]

civilians who shuld throw hands

[stable kernel]

They can

Most of them on dorms will punch you if you get close

[amber dock]

https://tenor.com/view/minigun-black-hawk-down-black-hawk-gif-14130624305987983078

[stable kernel]

These cuffs are too tight, asshole!

[amber dock]

You get to wear handcuffs that's pretty cool

[stable kernel]

I forgor any more

[desert island]

methlab, spider, port, dollhouse, streamer, cardealer shuld throw hands

[stable kernel]

Been too long

So many poorly acted lines

[amber dock]

Dont talk to me loser

[modest valley]

The game is hardly being censored

[minor cloud]

It’s no longer uncomfortable to play. Just another video game.

[stable kernel]

Toc to entry team: cover your faces on the way home

[modest valley]

I mean it would be nice to have the option to enable censor or not

[zenith shoal]

I agree, I read the notes and it's not that crazy

[stone bay]

Oh man I am really so excited to come here

[upbeat shore]

"My mom has a Mexican maid, you might know her."

[zenith shoal]

I'm just happy to finally get a tac shooter on ps5

[stone bay]

Where can talk without a 15 seconds tape on the mouth

[desert island]

wat r u gona do shoot us

[minor cloud]

The main draw for me was that it’s a game that was genuinely going to make me uncomfortable but now it’s just a tactical shooter.

[stable kernel]

Oh god, the blood

[stone bay]

Eman

[desert island]

im not leaving ur guna have to kill me

[upbeat shore]

[amber dock]

Theres people over here help us

[stone bay]

Oh man oh hell

I am going goodbye

[stable kernel]

Sus

[zenith shoal]

The game can still be uncomfortable, specifically the Elephant and Valley of the Dolls missions

[upbeat shore]

Bro actually left xD

[stable kernel]

And they’re gone

[minor cloud]

Eh probably will also be changed at some point as well

[amber dock]

Did they have a pfp of richard tyson

Damn

[stable kernel]

He did not do it, he did not

[desert island]

port, doll, and nightclub r da horror lvls

elephant is watever cuz the shootin is over

[stable kernel]

!slowmode 5s

[copper solar]

Set 5 seconds slowmode for #👮ron-discussion (native slowmode)

[stable kernel]

Oh no

[zenith shoal]

I'm "excited" or ig like dreading? Neon Tomb when the game drops on ps5

[stable kernel]

Nvm just my connection

[desert island]

maybe if the active shooting was more prevalent

[minor cloud]

Just women in a crate now very well fed and new fresh threads the killer bought for them 😎

[stable kernel]

Behave yourselves and don’t be like gen chat

And 5s stays

[desert island]

like u arrive faster on elephant and theres like constant gunfire

but nah its just quiet and then a quick 1 shot by suspect after a while

[minor cloud]

they are probably gonna add skins and emotes and shi too eventually

[zenith shoal]

Yeah I think it would have been better to put them in bloody clothes if they were going that route or like the beta version

[desert island]

they should do the same for nightclub and hospital

[undone oak]

yippe!

[minor cloud]

nah fr like what could have they been thinking

[desert island]

the tearists r actively killing civilians as u r searching

[undone oak]

i am really excited for the console release though, too bad i spoiled the game bt watching videos on it thinking it would never come to console

[desert island]

halo did it better

the civilian level on reach

had brutes killing civilians if u delayed

[minor cloud]

I was super hyped to play it on launch now i’m skeptical, i’m keeping the pre order up because i have been waiting a long time for this game but the whole story is likely different now. Especially the first few missions.

[zenith shoal]

I spoiled the game for myself watching videos on the censorship

[modest valley]

We should be offered the refund

[undone oak]

Its not gonna be changed alot, im also just happy theres a good tactical game on consoles

[minor cloud]

Fair enough

[undone oak]

unfortunate

[minor cloud]

I feel like they should just change the name of the game since yes i’m for sure ready 😂

[undone oak]

people are still on about the refunds?

[undone oak]

LOL real

[stable kernel]

People will be in here complaining for a while more, even after the dlc drop

[minor cloud]

I just don’t understand the censorship i play outlast trials everyday and i can say that game is 10x more graphic and is on console

[modest valley]

Well hopefully someone will create a mod to bring it all back for pc players

[minor cloud]

This is the one time i actually feel bad for pc players

yall don’t deserve this shi

[somber plover]

💔

[undone oak]

i understand it to some degree, theres a scary element of reality because these situations do unfortunately happen, but its still unfortunate it got censored

[heady spade]

It's in the context of real world scenarios for ron

[minor cloud]

Have you heard of the Stop Killing Games foundation?

[minor cloud]

Nevermind i get it

Still sucks

[undone oak]

not much, too busy on my job, what does it do?

[spring urchin]

keeps devs from abandoning and killing off games like the crew

mostly shutting down servers

[minor cloud]

Just look up stop killing games. It’s about how devs will release a game and we will all pay for it and they completely change the game after release to where it’s just dogshit

[spring urchin]

its not about them changing games

[undone oak]

smh

[spring urchin]

read it then come back pal

[minor cloud]

Yep once again i was wrong

[spring urchin]

it happens

[heady spade]

Are you saying this update made Ron unplayable?

[minor cloud]

i guess i’m just hella disappointed

[spring urchin]

only reason i know is i just read it LOL all good

[minor cloud]

Nah not unplayable it’s just worrying for its future

[desert island]

its rare that a dev doesnt kill their game

[heady spade]

No it's not

[spring urchin]

agreed, or community killing it

[desert island]

community doesnt kill games

[heady spade]

Plenty of devs have single play or offline modes

[minor cloud]

Yea i just feel like kinda with how call of duty did it back in the day just add a graphic content filter. Is that not aloud to happen since it would technically still all be in the game?

[spring urchin]

no russian?

[minor cloud]

I’m not blaming this on the RoN devs at all i’m mostly mad at Sony and Microsoft they never fail to fuck shit up

[modest valley]

Steam reviews gone to mostly negative now

[heady spade]

For like no reason

[modest valley]

Not really the community didn’t want the change

[spring urchin]

and the community feels entitled

[heady spade]

It's like so minor things that if void didn't tell you you wouldn't notice it for weeks

And people complain like it's gamebreaking

[torpid pulsar]

And it would be even worse response

[torpid pulsar]

Because it hurts what the game was no punches held back at all

[modest valley]

Not a game breaking thing however it’s a game that was meant to realistic as possible no compromises yet here they are making them for the sole purpose of console

[vagrant zephyr]

Copying and pasting my question here because 5 minute timers don’t make it a good discussionnnnnn:

Have you seen the censorship? It’s a concerning diversion of attention from more important issues, however it’s not something to really complain about by itself.

Can you please elaborate on what aspect of the censorship you find the most awful?

[torpid pulsar]

but now they have to hold back a bit

[timber fjord]

ofc an enemy comes and opens the doors and my teammate like usual watch me die

fucking bullshit

[placid pasture]

No mutilation

For deceased suspects

[heady spade]

"For the sole purpose of doubling play numbers"

[placid pasture]

Amos voll needs his neurons rearranged

[vagrant zephyr]

Right, but we don’t have that now. Mutilation doesn’t add much to the storyline either, unless you mean the mutilation of characters like in Narcos?

[vagrant zephyr]

Actually yeah that’s a good point

[heady spade]

It's 5 sec now

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh

[modest valley]

Simply give the player the option enable or disable

[vagrant zephyr]

No no I meant the feedback channel

[spring urchin]

or you know who cares

[heady spade]

That requires 2 different builds which is a fuck ton of work

[placid pasture]

Amos voll should exclusively be able to be mutilated

[placid pasture]

Violation rules of engagement won't be as fun

[vagrant zephyr]

What do you mean? He was like that when I got inside the mansion

[minor cloud]

i mean bro the community is who actually plays the game and consumes its content we have every right to be upset

[vagrant zephyr]

We did kinda y’know buy the game, and it wasn’t cheap.

[placid pasture]

I put the d in dead on arrival ass response

[spring urchin]

you say we like you speak for everyone, we are divided

[desert island]

its not a big deal but acting like its not a bad thing is copium

[placid pasture]

Ready or not segregation before 2026 🥀

[minor cloud]

I dropped 80 dollars for a censored tactical shooter that i have wanted since its release i almost bought a whole pc that would have been terrible

[vagrant zephyr]

Humanity finds the stupidest shit to divide over

[placid pasture]

80 DOLLARS

[spring urchin]

i agree

[minor cloud]

It’s a littttle disappointing

[heady spade]

The development and game is pretty meh yea but such a big fuss over following restrictions is crauy

[vagrant zephyr]

The devs listed all of the censorship they’re gonna do, can you please elaborate on what you dislike the most out of the censorship?

[desert island]

wat i dislike most is removing old farm and old port

[vagrant zephyr]

As far as I’m aware, they’re not censoring anything else other than what they showed

[minor cloud]

I guess i just noticed that the after photos were not uncomfortable it felt like a cod screenshot

[desert island]

but no one talks about that anymore smh smh

[vagrant zephyr]

The new maps are getting ridiculously large for me and my friend to try and duo D:

[placid pasture]

They toned down the child dying thing which was the entire reason to go full auto on that map

It honestly made the map feel a little less gritty but who cares

[vagrant zephyr]

They changed Voll’s part?

I gotta check rq

[desert island]

TOC to element, that was a sick double kill good work

[placid pasture]

No the crackodilo mission

[minor cloud]

The photos in the before make you mad at what your seeing and make you uncomfortable.

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh wait these were PC changes

Ok I have no clue what changes were made to console

This is pretty concerning

[desert island]

u used to be able to kill the kid before 1.0

[timber fjord]

ofc my teammate gets flanked and died like a dumbass, i fucking hate neon tomb

[placid pasture]

How

[somber plover]

HAHAHAHAHA

[minor cloud]

Bro the censorship is for everyone

[desert island]

u wuld just shoot them, now it just puts u in low ready if u look at them

[vagrant zephyr]

The briefing stated only 6 changes were made to PC, I don’t know what’s gonna happen to console

[timber fjord]

neon tomb is the most annoying map, fucking rgb lights everywhere and enemies scattered like flies

[placid pasture]

Neon nightclub is actually so bad istg (the Devs nailed it in terms of being a nightmare)

[timber fjord]

and the one guy that is supposed to "improve the aim" dies

[vagrant zephyr]

Am I the only person active rn that loves neon tomb gameplay wise

[placid pasture]

Exactly

[minor cloud]

Console isn’t out yet how could a change be made on something that’s not out yet. They say pc but once its out everything that’s on pc will be on console

[timber fjord]

fr

[vagrant zephyr]

By… changing it in development? That’s how censoring console version works

[timber fjord]

Yes. i want that map removed smh

[minor cloud]

That shit is the one thing i’m looking forward to. The cellphones going off actually make it uncomfortable

[placid pasture]

When I say neon nightclub is trash, I do not mean in quality, I mean in dealing with it

[timber fjord]

YES

[desert island]

i think neon tomb is fine i just dont like the mini dance floor on 2nd floor room and the pool room windows

[timber fjord]

i dont like anything about it

[placid pasture]

The part to get to the DJ place is so bad

[somber plover]

throw smoke and youll be fine

[placid pasture]

You're basically swiss cheese if you don't clear that area

[timber fjord]

for some reason my armorer isnt appearing in the tablet?

[placid pasture]

Smokes don't exist in RoN

[desert island]

gas grenade

[vagrant zephyr]

I use neon tomb to warm up… it’s small enough to be done within a reasonable time frame, the terrorists have rifles, and there’s enough alternative entrances to avoid most of the dance floor…

I do kinda run a system of ‘oh shit I shot a civilian’ so my reaction speed may be higher than what is probably legal

[heady spade]

I'm fine with neon tomb but in the main room you just get obliterated through 4 railings 2 tables and 7 chairs from an enemy in a corner aiming at a wall

[placid pasture]

You think I haven't tried?

[desert island]

i just clear everything around the dance floor

[narrow dome]

Who's this Ron fella and why are we talking about him?

[placid pasture]

I take down things block by block with wedges

[desert island]

ron stands for John Ready

[vagrant zephyr]

Ron has done unspeakable damage to our community
We should do something about him

[placid pasture]

"we got em just where we want em" type play style

[desert island]

also which john wick neon tomb music replacement mod works

[placid pasture]

No offence but can you stop bloating the situation about the censoring

[desert island]

i see 3 of them but they are like from 2+ years ago and i need to know which one still works if anyone knows or i have to do self research

[timber fjord]

Bro does neon tomb to warm up It's like saying you warm up fighting john wick

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh, sorry I may have been talking about it too much

That part was satire tho D:<

[placid pasture]

"unspeakable damage" they really only did something stupid not to the point of game breaking or destroying

[vagrant zephyr]

It was a joke, hence the ‘he’!!!!!!!!!!!

[placid pasture]

I'm pretty tired so I probably missed the joke

[vagrant zephyr]

I’m innocent!!!!!!!!

[placid pasture]

Never read that my phone is literally pitched out

[heady spade]

It's so wild that the game is getting review bombed because of this. I mean it was obvious Ron has a community of degens and edgelords but God damn

[vagrant zephyr]

How is your phone that badly pitched out

[placid pasture]

I hate you ron!

[placid pasture]

It's a literal sun if it's not so I use an app

[vagrant zephyr]

WHAT

[timber fjord]

someone come do neon tomb S rank with me tomorrow i hate that map

[placid pasture]

Look at BST time rn

[vagrant zephyr]

Ohhhhh

[placid pasture]

Over my dead body

[narrow dome]

So I was in the middle of playing the megabytes mission and the game crashed and when it loaded back my progress was gone, and I also didn't have the normal dudes. I cleared my save and it fixed it but I have no idea what happened

[timber fjord]

you hate that map too?

[placid pasture]

The ONE map that requires lethal force

[timber fjord]

It's probably because you were in practice mode. Happened to me when i started playing aswell

[placid pasture]

VERY MUCH

[timber fjord]

I almost did it non lethal then my veteran npc died

[eternal crow]

I made it past rustbelt in permadeath

[vagrant zephyr]

I can’t run rust belt for some reason, the game just freezes up whenever I try to do it

[timber fjord]

i would say the map with the warehouse needs more lethal rather than neon tomb

[narrow dome]

Ai teammates shooting enemies that are stunned with beanbags will give me a aneurysm

[eternal crow]

Like it crashes ur game?

[placid pasture]

Doing neon tomb with 2 ppl is a dead sentence

[vagrant zephyr]

It says ‘modded map alert!!’ And then the game freezes

It’s been like that before I deleted Ron, and it’s been like that since I reinstalled Ron

[timber fjord]

We can get like 16 gas grenades if there's 2 of us. Maybe we find 2 other people and we are set

[placid pasture]

Gas greandes aint do shit

[vagrant zephyr]

Have you tried Tazers

[timber fjord]

Helped find hidden enemies i couldnt see with mirror gun !

[desert island]

if u wana play ron as a horror game use handguns

[narrow dome]

They do this with flashbanged enemies too sometimes

[vagrant zephyr]

You get two shots, which means two fried balls for each terrorist

[timber fjord]

Holy fuck you're sentencing urself to death

[placid pasture]

90 percent of engagements with them are out of tazer range

You're either joking or you never played RoN

[narrow dome]

Me bringing beanbag for s rank
The nefarious Prescot:

[timber fjord]

I have never used a tazer, is it good and do i have "ammo"?

[vagrant zephyr]

No no I don’t mean ONLY Tazers, but I always keep 4 or 6 shots just in case

[desert island]

tazers have 3 or 4 shots per tazer i think

[narrow dome]

2 shots, 3 magazines

[placid pasture]

Ohh, yeah that's my go to

Tazers are super underrated, it's literally pepper spray on stroids

[desert island]

tazers r underrated cuz grenades r so strong

[placid pasture]

Less range and spread but much better power than all non lethal besides gas

[narrow dome]

Beanbag gun but the A.I doesn't mercilessly gun down the stunned enemies

[desert island]

so they r correctly rated tbh

[vagrant zephyr]

I don’t trust myself with beanbags

[placid pasture]

Pepper ball pistols arrive pls

[desert island]

beanbag is better than pistols

[desert island]

1 shot to the head at any range and 1 shot to the body is a insta stun

[vagrant zephyr]

I’m excited for the m320, three letter triad is gonna become a lightshow when the update comes out

[placid pasture]

Death

[timber fjord]

If i get an S rank in quick play multiplayer do i also see the S rank when in commander?

[desert island]

pistols sway too much and do nothing to body

[placid pasture]

I'm the only guy that can die in an s tier run without the suspect killing me

[desert island]

a swat ai killed me with a stinger once
and yeah u can see s rank in commander

[timber fjord]

Tyy

[desert island]

it saves ur best time and grade always

[timber fjord]

imma do it that way then so i can restart quicker. But i gotta find some people

[placid pasture]

HOW

[vagrant valve]

#💬general-discussion is tweaking again

[narrow dome]

How does one die to a civilian

[placid pasture]

They skip the entire accidental shit and have a mental breakdown mid mission

[desert island]

i told them to push the room wit stinger but the suspect opened the door and i stunned him and was tying him up and swat naded me

[vagrant zephyr]

Los Sueno’s finest btw

[timber fjord]

That's an interesting way to die...

The most annoying way i died is when i grabbed my gas nade and thats when the suspect opened the door and shot me.
But dying to ur own teammates is crazy

[desert island]

it was some looney tunes shit where they dropped the grenade under my feet and i looked down at it while i was tying suspect

[vagrant zephyr]

LOL
“Oops butterfingers!”

[timber fjord]

the cartoon character runs off a cliff and they keep floating in the sky and they fall when they look down type shit

[vagrant zephyr]

I don’t make my AI use nades as much as I probably should

From these experiences, thank god I don’t

[narrow dome]

I saw the achieveo

[timber fjord]

you shouldnt, those guys can't throw it further than 2 meters and just flash themselves

[desert island]

volls wife daniella can beat u to death if u dont scare her

[timber fjord]

wtf...

[timber fjord]

[desert island]

u basically gotta do it intentionally cuz usually swat will folo u and intimidate her

[timber fjord]

ah, i wonder why someone wanted to get intentionally beat my her and found that out...

[placid pasture]

Mate she literally slams the door in your face if you go near her

[timber fjord]

LMAO

just mag dump her smh

[placid pasture]

Tell me you don't play ron without telling me you don't play ron

[vagrant zephyr]

Maybe he’s new?

[timber fjord]

i am new
i dont even know who we are talking about

[placid pasture]

Valley of the dolls is a newbie mission

[timber fjord]

:D

[vagrant zephyr]

Also large, I avoided it when I was new due to it looking like a massive map

[timber fjord]

Oh that mission lol, i dont remember a single thing other than underground weird room and lots of fucking windows

[placid pasture]

It's extremely easy

[vagrant zephyr]

I keep on shooting Voll help

[placid pasture]

When you're new is difficult but how it's a cake walk

[timber fjord]

oh and also searching for 40 minutes for an inexistent civ

[placid pasture]

Shhh, he was dead on arrival 😊

[vagrant zephyr]

It’s intimidating more than difficult

The glass windows.

Why did the map designer assume that glass is bulletproof.

[placid pasture]

Spam f ❤️

[placid pasture]

Glass Windows are just a shooting range for me tbh

[timber fjord]

yea i decided to leave that mission for last to get S rank cuz that mission doesnt deserve it but i still want to get it

[vagrant zephyr]

Glass windows are one way for me, I literally can’t see anything through them

[placid pasture]

Shooting at people while at a lower point making you vulnerable is just gold

[placid pasture]

Then your textures went bye bye

[vagrant zephyr]

Ready or not wants to eat my pc

[timber fjord]

i like how the reflections in windows dont affect the npcs but you cant see shit through them. Oh and lets not forget about echo fucking location

[vagrant zephyr]

I need the lowest graphic settings in order to enact Rules of Elimination

[wild bough]

I am pretty new to ready or not but i do love r6 though someone can answer a few questions which might be pretty dumb

[vagrant zephyr]

Do you have your laser sight / flashlight frequently on? They can see that, it confused me for a bit

[vagrant zephyr]

Ready or not is pretty much what the original trailers of r6 looked like… but y’know, without the pvp

Any questions outside of that?

[timber fjord]

I do have it on most of the time. If i dont use the button "O" function should i just turn it off? And should i remove them from my npcs aswell?

[river basalt]

Am i stupid ? What maps are they adding in the update again ?

[wild bough]

Can you help me with a few questions?

[vagrant zephyr]

Oh yeah enemies can see them

[humble mauve]

#announcements message

[vagrant zephyr]

Sure

[placid pasture]

No

[river basalt]

Thanks you're the best

[placid pasture]

No not at all..

[vagrant zephyr]

Like, the REALLY early trailers, the concept ones

[wild bough]

What is the best weapons in each category? What does the different vests do? What is the ballistic mask and the 2 night vision goggles? How to heal?

[placid pasture]

You're onto smth wtf

[gaunt gale]

I wish we were as cool as Patriots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCQysh2Ci0c

[placid pasture]

No it really is like that

[river basalt]

This gotta be some sort of false advertisement

How did they go from that to the current r6

[desert island]

they made more money from pvp

[vagrant zephyr]

Well…

1. A gun’s a gun. You don’t need the best one to put a bullet hole in someone. Weapon categories are important though
   SMG: wanna full auto someone with barely any recoil? This is for you

Shotgun: Do I need to explain? Amputate someone go go go

Assault rifle (assault rifle): What else would you want in a gun? Does everything well.

Assault rifle (battle rifle): Do you like one tapping suspects?

2. Ballistic mask blocks bullets going to the head. NVGs help you see

3. You can’t heal. You forgot your biostimulants at home. Whatever damage you take is staying with you for the rest of the mission.

[magic hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/dokkaebi-rainbow-six-siege-r6-phone-attacker-gif-8879846304851538763

[gaunt gale]

Patriots was supposed to play more like R6 Vegas 3 than what it is now, also yes, they made a lot more money off PvP.

[vagrant zephyr]

I meant the old r6 siege trailers…

[gaunt gale]

Of course you're a Dokabi main.

[dim swallow]

I thought ballistic mask only gives you a chance to block bullets?

[fluid depot]

I figure there was a lot of inspiration from them in The Left Behind

[vagrant zephyr]

Eh simplification, but it is consistent

[wild bough]

And what is the stab vest heavy vest and light vest and what means having them as ceramic Kevlar or steel?

[dim swallow]

Ballistic mask might have its purpose but it looks stupid as fuck

[dim swallow]

Stab vest does exactly what it says, stops you from being stabbed by a bladed weapon. However it's utterly useless against ballistic threats. I'll let the others explain light and heavy

[vagrant zephyr]

Stab vest: you move fast and die fast. Best armour’s not getting hit, I suppose.

Light vest: Best armour’s is still not getting hit, but I don’t trust my bullet-dodging skills

Ceramic takes a few bullets before breaking, steel reduces the damage and can’t break

[placid pasture]

Uhh

[narrow dome]

Wasn't patriots cancelled?

[fluid depot]

Stab Vest < Light vest < Heavy Vest

Levels of armor -- Light vest and Heavy vest contain armor plates that stop bullets, they differ on level of coverage around the body

Ceramic is lighter and blocks more damage but can break, steel blocks less but is heavier and doesn't break

[desert island]

7.62 battlerifle: GA51
.300 carbine: DM4PDW
5.56 assaultrifle: M416
submachinegun: MP7
shotgun: B1301
pistol: fiveseven
light vest: more slots more speed less directional protection
heavy vest: less slots less speed more directional protection
ceramic: use this one
ballistic mask: gives u additional head hp
heal: sometimes u bleed and can restore health back to 80

[vagrant zephyr]

What armour’s the best? Idk which one do you like the sound of the most

[fluid depot]

The best 5.56 rifle is actually the F90

[narrow dome]

No the best shotgun is the beanbag

[vagrant zephyr]

I can’t play the game for you, you’ll have to just see what gun does the job for you

[placid pasture]

Steel plates

[dim swallow]

Wait stopping bleed actually heals you to 80 hp ?

[fluid depot]

Heavy armor with ceramic

@placid pasture steel armor is cringe

[placid pasture]

300 blackout rifles hit diff

[dim swallow]

I thought stopping bleeding only yknow, stops the bleeding

[vagrant zephyr]

Steel sounds great on paper, until the suspects target the legs

[desert island]

stopping a bleed puts u back to 2 shot hp

[placid pasture]

Sorry that I don't die after getting shot twice without needing to carry a fucking tank equivalent of weight on me

[wild bough]

So just using heavy armor with ceramic is the best option right?

[desert island]

yeah

[vagrant zephyr]

Idk experiment, do you wanna move fast or die last

[placid pasture]

Steel literally saved me after being mag dumped because my clueless ai blocked me

[fluid depot]

Yeah -- the weight primarily affects your acceleration speed so don't constantly stop moving

[desert island]

also F90 has more directional drag than M416

[placid pasture]

There is a VIDEO of it on my channel

[narrow dome]

Judge didn't forget his biostimulants, he doesn't need them

[placid pasture]

Ceramic is good until it breaks

[wild bough]

Oh ok

[gaunt gale]

More turned into R6 Siege

[placid pasture]

Steel is gas

[fluid depot]

Stop getting shot -- if you're getting shot so much that your armor is breaking you're bad

[desert island]

ur ceramic armor will never break before u die

[narrow dome]

Ass*

[placid pasture]

Who's gonna tell him

[vagrant zephyr]

I mean, if we want the definitive ‘best’ loadout for you, what do you seek in a gun, armour and loadout?

[placid pasture]

How??

[desert island]

ceramic armor means u got shot like 12 times in the body or something

[wild bough]

Idk which gun is better

[vagrant zephyr]

What do you want in a gun. Magazine capacity? Accuracy? Bullet size?

[fluid depot]

With many situations it's not possible to not take a round, but if you're taking so many rounds your armor breaks then you're not clearing rooms properly

[narrow dome]

Steel is only sometimes good if you go into a mission you know is going to break out into a firefight and even then alot of the shots aren't going go your body

[wild bough]

Kill people

[vagrant zephyr]

Then just use a gun, they all shoot bullets that kill relatively good enough

[fluid depot]

F90 with AP rounds

[placid pasture]

With dumbass AI don't expect me to clear rooms like a professional

[fluid depot]

If you know how to be point man it's very easy

[dim swallow]

Acc what happened to the ambient animations we had

[vagrant zephyr]

Damage values are decided by bullets, not the guns

[wild bough]

I use the first assault rifle and the fiveseven pistol and a battering ram and i use the stab best to carry a lot of ammo

[dim swallow]

I genuinely never see the AI doing ambient anims now lmao did they break it

[vagrant zephyr]

Welp, good luck, have fun!

Tell us how it goes!

[fluid depot]

Stab vest is not gonna do you a whole lot on most maps

[placid pasture]

I'm not a very tactical shooter guy, I got a pc this year so I quite literally just started getting into this genre

[desert island]

u can get shot all the way to 1 hp without bleeding
but if u do bleed ur hp slowly drops to 0 unless u stop it
if u stop the bleeding ur hp goes back to 80
enemies cant do more than 70 in 1 shot so u can take 2 shots before dying after healing

[dim swallow]

No dont use stab vest, you want some amount of protection

[narrow dome]

I should take everything out so I can just carry 500 tasers

[placid pasture]

I used to play Minecraft and Roblox which got depressing

[vagrant zephyr]

Erm, actually, my sergeant told me not being shot is the best armour you can wear!!!!

[spark hemlock]

literally the best thing you can do if you wanna win
like ive done 2-3 runs of commander mode + ironman mode and as long as you just kit your guys up super heavily with ballistic facemasks and heavy armor and ceramics, you are entirely good and are practically immortal in the early levels (since the suspects use 9mms for the most part)
i'd just be worried as you climb up into the other levels where suspects have rifles

[desert island]

not being shot is wat armor is for

[wild bough]

I stopped playing Roblox

[fluid depot]

Peak an angle from one side of the door, commit to the unknown

[placid pasture]

Stab vest is never a good option but you'd still find me using it every light year

[placid pasture]

I learned what alt did when I started doing the hospital mission so you can imagine

[vagrant zephyr]

Let him experiment

[wild bough]

I play multiplayer though

[placid pasture]

If it weren't for my GOATED viewers informing me

[vagrant zephyr]

He’s not gonna know why stab vest is impractical until he sees it for himself

[narrow dome]

Stab vest: either too short to need the ammo, or the level has so many enemies, you need protection from them

[desert island]

u take more damage to ur chest than ur limbs so if u get shot in chest without ceramic plates u pretty much die in 3 shots

[placid pasture]

You ain't alone, I play it for like 20 mins and stop

[spark hemlock]

honestly point still stands, light armor imo is pretty useless if you're with a coordinated team. everyone can just carry different gadgets rather than hording them all for yourself

[desert island]

but if u wear ceramic armor u can get shot in chest 15 times and not die

[zenith shoal]

Crazy how the censorship drama blew up so much that even mutahar made a video on it

[narrow dome]

This is you

[narrow dome]

I do not give a damn what that rat says

[placid pasture]

I identify as a mirror

[zenith shoal]

What 😭 what's wrong with muta

[desert island]

i dont remember y i dont like him but i dont like him

[wild bough]

Idk some people tells me in the lobby to take gas grenades or just take a battering ram or a specific gun but we always die tbh i just play mp because i like to talk to people

[placid pasture]

If it worked like that I wouldn't run steel

[narrow dome]

For one thing he's a massive goddamn hypocrite

[desert island]

well everytime u get shot in the chest while wearing ceramic ull never know

[placid pasture]

Who's muta

[zenith shoal]

Oh is it about the switch 2 thing

[zenith shoal]

SomeOrdinaryGamers

[vagrant zephyr]

Multiplayer public is… whack. I believe in you tho!

[narrow dome]

More than that, but that is one of the reasons

[placid pasture]

Max it takes is 4, steel takes as many as possible but you'll die to impact breaking your bones first

[narrow dome]

Everyone who has bought a switch 2 shall burn in hell for their greed

[wild bough]

And one last question how do i get a female operator and is there a way to get pink or yellow skins?

[fluid depot]

If you're doing all lethal then you can just take a 5.56 rifle, 7-9 mags of AP rounds, breaching shotgun, and face shield

[vagrant zephyr]

Nope!

[placid pasture]

Oh him, he's great I watched him today I think

[narrow dome]

You do not

[desert island]

ive never seen broken ceramic armor
it has to be intentionally broken

[placid pasture]

I beg you, just use a miku skin mod

[wild bough]

What

[vagrant zephyr]

IRL swat don’t use pink colours for their uniforms

[placid pasture]

You need to install the miku dlc

[wild bough]

Devs should add female operators and skins

[fluid depot]

It takes like 8 rifle rounds to break the plate

[vagrant zephyr]

B-but the realism

[placid pasture]

Waste of space

[narrow dome]

Pink colours being "famale" skins in your mind is certainly something

[placid pasture]

There are almost to none special operations people that are female to my knowledge

[desert island]

too bad that will never happen

[wild bough]

I like pinky skins even if it’s for a male operator

[placid pasture]

It's a job that requires a ton of strength and most women would need to spend years building muscle for that

[desert island]

ur limbs will be all red and ur hp will be 1, ur head will be concussed and ur helmet and mask broken but the armor will remain

[fluid depot]

Yeah exactly. Steel by comparison will spall and do damage to your teammates, and it weighs more, affecting your speed even more...

The best option is heavy armor with ceramic plates... like it would be in real life

[wild bough]

But definitely having a female operator would be so cool gang im sure I ain’t the only girl playing this game

[narrow dome]

Enemy ai is too shit to hit your body plate unless you stand still for them

[placid pasture]

Not to forget that you need to serve the police for a amount of time which already slows down your chances

[desert island]

also ur arms are infront of ur body most of the time

[narrow dome]

So do men.

[fluid depot]

If you're trying to get a female operator you'll need a mod

[wild bough]

Who cares it’s a game

[placid pasture]

Men are naturally stronger when it comes to that so it would take a lot less longer to get to the point of the required strength that women would

[vagrant zephyr]

I used to run steel, but then it struck me:

shot in limbs=100% damage
Shot in vest=30% damage

So why take 30%, when I can bring ceramic and take 0? My vest rarely gets shot at anyways, thanks to my trustworthy shield

[desert island]

i think enemies aim directly at ur center chest but due to deviation will almost always radiate outwards and hit ur exterior limbs

[placid pasture]

A game based on REAL things, not TV shows

[wild bough]

R6 is based on real things and has girls

[narrow dome]

TV shows based on REAL things, not video games

[vagrant zephyr]

Master chief

[placid pasture]

Rainbow six siege?

[fluid depot]

Siege has a paralyzed operator

[vagrant zephyr]

ROBOTS

[narrow dome]

See, I can be a pretentious little prick too

[desert island]

run stab vest for like 1 minute and ur chest will be like instantly red

[wild bough]

Yeah so?

[placid pasture]

Are you gonna debate this with me for 3 hours

[vagrant zephyr]

Not if I bring out a shield

For me personally, ceramic does the greatest job for me

[wild bough]

Skopos uses her robots anyway

[fluid depot]

They're not exactly realistic at this point in time -- they jumped the shark when they added the roided female SEAL

[desert island]

or even running kevlar heavy armor

[placid pasture]

Reality TV puts in women so it's more diverse not because of realism

[spark hemlock]

literally truth nuke, it doesnt matter if it isnt "realistic"

[placid pasture]

(police TV shows) fyi!!!!!!

[desert island]

kevlar heavy armor u take so much chest damage so fast

[vagrant zephyr]

Read that again, but slower

[narrow dome]

A debate with you would be me pointing out that men have to go through the same trials and you going "but muh biology" and neither of us would get anywhere

[fluid depot]

realism and authenticity...

[spark hemlock]

either way theres plenty of female swat officers, no?

[dim swallow]

We dont even have skins, i dont really mind female operators

[placid pasture]

And this is where it ends

[desert island]

doesnt siege have like foreign agents and like fictional cartoon characters

[spark hemlock]

women in my video game :(

[fluid depot]

not really -- there's female police officers but they also typically don't have access to the lower levels of the use of force continuum due to their stature...

[placid pasture]

Just install mods

[desert island]

los suenos only has valley girls

[spark hemlock]

i dont care about women being added or not, its none of my concern
i just dont think its an issue IF they get added

[narrow dome]

...yeah cause the foreign operators in an INTERNATIONAL SPECIAL FORCES UNIT is unrealistic

[placid pasture]

Kayla chill

[wild bough]

Bro complaining about realism but every time is neon club some player kills and grabs the slu.s or get them all to one room

[desert island]

isnt master chief in that game

[placid pasture]

Dude siege literally has a fucking Chinese women that has access to molten lava (not even apart of law enforcement anymore)

[sour cargo]

Why couldn't we have a school shooting map

[dim swallow]

We do

[vagrant zephyr]

Swat officers can do that, it’s just that they don’t

[placid pasture]

Nor counter terrorism WHICH SIEGE ISSS

[wild bough]

No gang that’s pretty disgusting

[sour cargo]

Erm. Proof?????

[narrow dome]

That has zero to do with my point

[magic hearth]

It's a small number, but still a present number so it's not something out of the question we could look into.

[fluid depot]

huh

[dim swallow]

Uhh, Elephant???

[placid pasture]

I never said they weren't there, I'm saying there are BARELY any

[desert island]

got any proof thats a woman

[sour cargo]

No. You're the disgusting one 💔 💔

[placid pasture]

Huge respect to the women that got through to that tho

[wild bough]

Also the dismemberment and gore should be removed

[vagrant zephyr]

Elephant mission is great for beginners

[spark hemlock]

but yeah no its a little absurd to be worried about realism in ready or not when so many of the scenarios are insanely over-the-top
like why arent you complaining about realism when we're raiding an abandoned resort to arrest south american gangsters and ex green beret mercenaries to rescue a USIA scientist and to stop the mercenaries from getting their hands on a chemical weapon?

women in SWAT gear is where you draw the line?

[dim swallow]

Like hell even the archivist in the evidence room changes after Elephant cause presumably their child was killed in the Watt Campus shooting

[placid pasture]

Money.

[tawdry stag]

when there is ready there is not

[narrow dome]

This also has laterally nothing to do with my point. Her having molten lava might not be realistic, but it would be equally realistic if a man had the ability. A Chinese woman being in a special forces unit that recruits from all areas of the world is NOT the unrealistic part of rainbow six, it's the fucking holograms and robots

[sour cargo]

I thought women loved gore and dismemberment 💔 💔

[spark hemlock]

what are you talking about

[fluid depot]

alright gramps, that's enough internet for you today

[vagrant zephyr]

Ready or not is more ‘gritty’ and ‘edgy’ than rainbow six siege, in a sense, which is the main difference in terms of settings.

[placid pasture]

A squad of only female swat officers are literally rarer than whatever you've just described

[fluid depot]

-10 unauthorized use of force

[placid pasture]

I wish I was lying. Also there are mods for this so chill

[spark hemlock]

huh? who said anything about a squad of only female swat officers? what point are you trying to make?

[narrow dome]

D.E.I
Boo!
Did I scare you?

[desert island]

reality TV is real!!!!!!

[placid pasture]

HOLY SHIT

[fluid depot]

THE ONE PIECE IS REAL

[vagrant zephyr]

How the hell did we get a misogyny vs it’s-not-misogyny debate while I wasn’t paying attention

[placid pasture]

Get THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME

[dim swallow]

I wouldn't mind female swat officers so i can have more variety in commander mode

[placid pasture]

REF HELP

[wild bough]

Yeah but adding it more customizable options and let people just wear what they like I mean like wearing a heavy vest but having the option to hide it visually or having more color options or hiding your helmet while still having the benefit of it

[dim swallow]

Commander mode as a whole feels undercooked tbh

[desert island]

i just hire the first 9 cops i see on the list becuase they wont last more than 1 mission

[placid pasture]

REF "they?" IS PULLING OUT DIVERSITY

[spark hemlock]

how are people seriously crying about the hypothetical of female ready or not characters though lmao, and bringing realism into it is crazy

[placid pasture]

HELP ME PLEASE I'M OUTNUMBERED

[vagrant zephyr]

‘Gritty’ and more ‘edgy’. Imagine an analogy of a goth kid in school, and asking him to wear a pink bracelet

[dim swallow]

I wonder what happened to the on/off duty system they had planned

[placid pasture]

Remove people, it's just me saying this mate

[desert island]

commander mode just needs a police budget system to make it actually different

[placid pasture]

This entire debate is an entire nothing burger

[wild bough]

Bruh irl people wears what they like so why not in a game it is still realist

[desert island]

u can wear the pink swat outfit to work, but u can only do it once

[dim swallow]

I remember there being a developer qna and like one of the devs said they planned for your swat officers to be on/off duty and i vaguely remember something about off duty officers being able to accidentally commit crime themselves lmao

[vagrant zephyr]

Wearing pink is like coating your uniform in ‘shoot me’

[placid pasture]

Source?

[desert island]

im making my prescence known to the perps

[narrow dome]

PVP is a dangerous idea because either they go for the generic pvp idea like cod or r6 or they go for the angel of letting people play the criminals in level and that...is walking on some dangerous lines

[dim swallow]

Thats the thing, i dont remember its just something i vaguely remember

[placid pasture]

PvP doesn't belong in RoN

[wild bough]

Ngl the only time I played single player i just killed my bot teammates

[desert island]

they wuld nvr let u play as the criminals cuz that goes against their message

[narrow dome]

As if yelling hands up loud enough for the next neighborhood over doesn't do that already

[desert island]

at most its just blue on blue simulated training

[placid pasture]

Some people can actually take what you say seriously btw

[vagrant zephyr]

Intimidation vs the colour pink

[dim swallow]

I vaguely remember this but i am 100% sure this did exist

[placid pasture]

Who's gonna tell them

[desert island]

so it wuld be cops pretending to be suspects in a training room

[narrow dome]

That doesn't work half the time

[dim swallow]

Ill try looking into it when i have time

[placid pasture]

Then I'd find the source before saying it

[desert island]

and using pretend guns and really good acting for playing dead

[wild bough]

Id rather wear pink gasmasks before wearing a black gas mask ngl

[narrow dome]

Canonically rainbow six siege is a simulation

[vagrant zephyr]

IRL, it does actually, though I’m not the statistics type of person. Search it up for me, please :D

in game, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fluid depot]

Canonically rainbow six siege sucks

[placid pasture]

Btw do you even play ron

[desert island]

ubisoft sucks

[narrow dome]

Which raises the question as to just fucking how and why deimos is there

[wild bough]

Yes

[placid pasture]

What mission you on

[vagrant zephyr]

I have vague memories of a ‘90% of irl swat missions don’t end up in a shootout’ statistic but it’s not certain, so take it with a grain of salt

[narrow dome]

Should've been a mission where there was a siege on the station

[wild bough]

I play multiplayer i did neon club and the hide and seek

[desert island]

when r we allowed to hire USIA agents in commander mode

i want swat immune to stress

[narrow dome]

Can't be a shootout if they never shoot back

[placid pasture]

Singleplayer mission

[vagrant zephyr]

Or if the suspects shit themselves into surrendering.

[humble mauve]

its probably way closer to 99% considering how often they are used to serve search warrants

[wild bough]

I did the gas station only

[desert island]

yeah swat r usually overkill or useless

[placid pasture]

And that explains everything holy shit

[narrow dome]

Swat gets deployed to shit that's above their pay grade half the time FYI

[placid pasture]

You didn't even touch 23 megabytes that's insane

[desert island]

swat getting deployed to ruby ridge to kill the civilians

[vagrant zephyr]

I don’t live in America, nor am I familiar with how police officers act in that area, so my experience is sheerly in websites and statistics from online

[stone bay]

What does 12 ga brake do specifically?

[wild bough]

Idk I just went to mp because I love to talk to people

[desert island]

12 brake reduces recoil

[stone bay]

Any other feature?

[placid pasture]

You're the only person I know who does that now

[narrow dome]

I don't have to live there to know they send swat in for the smallest thing, all you need to do is look at news articles

[placid pasture]

Though I wouldn't debate stuff if you haven't even done the 2nd mission

[spring urchin]

has the evidance bug on twisted nerve been patched?

[desert island]

it makes ur gun sway more and longer

[wild bough]

If u wanna play with me im down

[placid pasture]

Ight

[vagrant zephyr]

I’m aware of that much, yes, hence the ‘online’ part

[placid pasture]

Steam user? BST time

[wild bough]

Nice ill message u later this afternoon

[placid pasture]

I'd be asleep

[desert island]

SWAT r basically used for dangerous situations but dangerous situations r usually overblown or fake

[narrow dome]

Mate it's 1am for you

[placid pasture]

And?

[wild bough]

You in china?

[desert island]

and when it is a dangerous situation the swat r usually useless for it

[narrow dome]

Why r u awake

[wild bough]

What’s bst time im confused

[placid pasture]

Hint, TEA

[narrow dome]

British standard time

[placid pasture]

I'm going to sleep soon anyway cuh

[wild bough]

My mom is British ❤️

[narrow dome]

GMT is also used for British time

[placid pasture]

British summer time*

[wild bough]

Mine is pacific time im in cali

[placid pasture]

RIP

[vagrant zephyr]

Hey it’s me JiggilyJim, the discord(TM) user, to tell you to get some sleep!

Spending all night playing videogames or on discord is NOT a good idea, and may result in lack of sleep after not sleeping!

Please sincerely use this message to

Okay this joke message has gone on for long enough

Nap already

[wild bough]

Why 😭

[placid pasture]

It's bad when strangers are telling me to go sleepy bye bye, I ain't complaining so bye

[placid pasture]

PACIFIC, you're like overseas

[desert island]

im PST

[wild bough]

I guess

[gray wharf]

I mean a frenchie would be considered overseas for you

Hell an irish even

[desert island]

i think ur making up places

u tellin me they named it after french fries

[gray wharf]

fromage people and ~~carbomb ~~whiskey people

[desert island]

wats next a place called hamburg

[gray wharf]

also whiskey people and whisky people are different

[gray wharf]

sit tight, you won't believe what I'll tell you next

[desert island]

let me guess they named a place after chili

[gray wharf]

they named a place after fucking

[echo sundial]

Which DLC is worth buying?

[gray wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[desert island]

neither but if u had to pick dark water

[gray wharf]

dammit, forgot the image rule

[desert island]

dorms, mansion, carteltown, eww eww eww

[echo sundial]

dark water does look cool

[gray wharf]

They're on a nice enough discount rn

[desert island]

oilrig, beachhead r cool yacht is meh

[echo sundial]

oilrig looks sick

are there going to be more dlcs in the future?

[humble mauve]

yes

[gray wharf]

Probably

[echo sundial]

ooooo

since i got the game a few days ago and im really enjoying it

[gray wharf]

Hopefully VOID doesn't change the current dlc formula

[gray wharf]

play a bit more before buying dlc

[fluid depot]

We need a pack of 12 maps that are all just small domestic houses

[echo sundial]

okay

[gray wharf]

See if you're really gonna stick to the game or it's gonna be that "once every so often" itch

[desert island]

we need the bank heist map

[echo sundial]

ive put around 12 hours within like 2 days

[fluid depot]

need post heist shootout ala HEAT

[desert island]

they have clown masks, heavy armor, and their drill broke

[fluid depot]

https://youtu.be/Us5dEocwWjw

[echo sundial]

payday belike

[gray wharf]

There dozens of user made ones

Some are pretty good, even have some custom textures and assets

[gray wharf]

The day i bought the game I played it all night

[fluid depot]

Val Kilmer was so cool in Heat -- dude had the best rifle in the movie too

[gray wharf]

They use clips from it for official police training tapes

[fluid depot]

Michael Mann movies are so good. Tom Cruise in Collateral as Vincent is also one of my favorite roles of his

[desert island]

weird how they had a bunch of ammo ready but didnt actually have a plan for a shootout

[stable kernel]

Be civil

[desert island]

mr eman more like mr smellyman

[true portal]

will there ever be an uncensor patch you can download somewhere else?

[desert island]

prbly

[hollow mist]

9 DAYS LEFT

[tame lily]

Will there be added officers? A lot of maps are too big for just 5

[desert island]

prbly no

even with just 4 swats they can auto clear every map

[tame lily]

But for the sake of getting an S rank, it takes too long to have redo everything

[desert island]

then dont go for s rank

[tame lily]

So just ignore an aspect of the game?

[desert island]

if u dont like it then u dont need to do it yeah

[vale token]

Are they gonna be carrying medic bags?

[cunning fractal]

Most likely a mod

[desert island]

they r guna drop tiny medkits and vibrate thru bullets

[vale token]

Are they adding neon green nvgs and the ability to do kung fu?

[desert island]

nightstick when

but cloakers do have the low ready run at u

[cunning fractal]

I got ptsd from seeing that mf jump out of a vent and fly kick me so hard they broke my spine

[desert island]

pd2 was a pretty good adaptation of l4d2

[vale token]

CEASE

[cunning fractal]

?

[desert island]

the design elements of 4 player coop fps against hordes with special enemies for incapacitating lone players

[twin musk]

I can convince him

Tell him that theres a PVP arena in the main lobby

[timber fjord]

Is there tho?? 🤔🤔

[twin musk]

Yep!

Theres a training CQC area that is mostly used as a pvp arena if you play with friends
Its pretty medium sized and you are free to use whatever weapons you like in that area

Its always fun to C2 a door, wait for a friend to open it and watch as their physical form gets sent to the shadow realm

Literally half a second of the door opening, a massive bang, then youre back at the beginning of the arena entrance

[desert island]

every mission is a pvp arena if u play with friends

[twin musk]

true

[wicked breach]

censor or not

[tiny iris]

ready or not more like not ready

[wicked breach]

ready or censor

[tiny iris]

more like the reality is censored because we want people to think the world is all sunshine and rainbows

[wicked breach]

yeah probably

[analog brook]

option to change from friends only lobby to -> public vice versa?

[desert island]

no

hav to make a new one

[regal lark]

Where do you report bugs? Encountered one from a friend where if you shoot the target during the flashbang portion of the tutorial, you get softlocked

[desert island]

psycho cop litmus test working as intended

[fluid depot]

CIA works heavily with JSOC

most competent counterintelligence service

of the intel community I think DIA, NSA have at least parity if not being superior

but CIA has the most cross-functional activity

probably the best HUMINT collection

[dreamy yoke]

i feel like i have the tactics down for RON i just struggle with playing out time because why did twisted nerve take me 30 minutes

[analog brook]

bad design... what if i want to wait for less than 4 friends without public players joining then during that time, i can toggle between friends & public to fill the remaining slots

[waxen grove]

What definite ai changes do we know about

[analog brook]

with the current design to fill up the 4 slots with a mix of friends/public players, my friends would have to all quickly join when i create the public lobby or id have to kick the public players so my friends can quickly join

[desert island]

if they really do join that fast then it wont be long

[stone bay]

What loadout would y'all recommend for a breacher? Obviously breaching shotgun, not worried about that.

[desert island]

depends wat u want

since breacher only job is opening the door

u can use anything after or before opening the door

[stone bay]

I want to use Benelli M4

And I use five seven for my secondary

I'm moreso talking about the rest of it

Light armor?

[desert island]

i recommend the B1301 over the M1014 but M1014 is still good

heavy armor ceramic full is the best

[stone bay]

M1014 is only because I love that scene from John Wick 2

[desert island]

if enemies r aware if ur existence then when u shoot or ram the door open they will probably shoot at u thru the wall

[stone bay]

But yeah B1301 is better

[vernal bane]

You realistically only need front/back ceramic or front only steel w/ light armor

[desert island]

i think the battering ram is better at breaching if ur dedicated to breaching cuz it pushes the door in and breaks a hole in it

[waxen grove]

It took them forever to give us a kick button and a ban button to combat the watchman guy. Never gonna happen

[desert island]

theres no reason not to get full armor for such a minor speed penalty

[stone bay]

Id argue for slots so I have more utility

[waxen grove]

There really isn’t. For ceramic the speed penalty is almost nothing

[vernal bane]

Heavy armor ceramic is a huge speed penalty b/c of the side plates. For utility slots it’s whatever, realistically 13 is already in the excessive for light armor

[desert island]

1 steel front plate is already a bigger penalty than full ceramic

[vernal bane]

For any map I’ve run I’ve only used 3/13ths of my slots in full

[waxen grove]

13 slots excessive for light armor? Is this bait?

[vernal bane]

Nah, I realistically only go through 3 mags at most

[stone bay]

I'm not asking about mags

[vernal bane]

You really don’t need that many slots at all

[desert island]

at most i bring 6 primary mags, 4 flashbangs, and 1 lockpick

[stone bay]

I'm talking about C2, wedges, lockpick gun, grenades

[desert island]

i rarely ever use my 4th mag but i like having ammo to play with

[stone bay]

No pistol ammo?

[desert island]

no pistol

[stone bay]

I'm using a shotgun, too long for doorways

[waxen grove]

Heavy really shouldn’t have less slots. The model literally has more pockets

[stone bay]

Also, I'm genuinely about to crash out when it comes to none of the vests using shotgun shells.

[desert island]

tbh at the moment u trade side protection for 2 slots

its a fair trade

[waxen grove]

They just need to add a weight system instead of a base Armor plus plate system for moment penalty’s because the only way to balance heavy is to give it less slots

[desert island]

but hey sometimes u get shot in the side and die in 2 hits

[waxen grove]

I find if you give your self how many mags you think you need, your always off by 1

[desert island]

or u can run full armor and die in 5 hits always

i know for sure i only need 2 mags if im playing seriously

[light walrus]

The suppress mechanics is annoying tho

[desert island]

well if im playing for fun i have 6

realistically im spending like 1-2 bullets on each enemy

[light walrus]

Reminds me last time I played with my friends I shot a guy 5 fkn times with my five seven and somehow he survived

[mental wolf]

are the Home Invasion/Dark Waters DLCs not available for the main campaign? there are tabs to select them, and i've already gone through each mission

[desert island]

pistol is really weak

[light walrus]

Well someone needed to play shield cause theres an AK guy on the premise

[desert island]

i dont know if DLC is in commander mode

[mental wolf]

ahh so just single or multi?

[desert island]

shield strat is to waste their ammo then kill them

[waxen grove]

It is

[wet owl]

Once you complete the Main levels they're unlocked

[light walrus]

Our strat was basically shield guy go first, crouch while suppressing as the guy in the rear starts unloading into the suspect

[desert island]

he sed he gone thru each mission

[light walrus]

Shot a suspect 5 times with pistol and guy could keep shooting back despite that

[desert island]

well just kno the five seven is like a 8 shot kill on some people

[vernal bane]

You don’t need any of that. Only thing you need is the breaching shotgun

[light walrus]

Thank fuck my whole intent on using it is to suppress

[desert island]

its rare u fight someone who has level 4 body armor

but it does happen a

[waxen grove]

I miss how swat 4 made you really think about what to take with you. You could go light armor in some missions without the fear or getting brutally murdered. RoN has the issue where you have to always priorities armor because the ai are cracked

[stone bay]

Yeah

This game has a lot of tweaking to do tbh

[desert island]

ai use very dangerous weapons and they get lucky with their spam

[vernal bane]

Buff the AI >>>

[waxen grove]

There is not variety in gameplay, every map is the same, every map runs the same, every suspect feels the same

[desert island]

i wouldnt be sending someone out there with light armor against rifles

[waxen grove]

Except almost all the ai has rifles and AP rounds

[stone bay]

If I get killed by a suspect bounding side to side hitting every shot I'm gonna crash out

[desert island]

well rifles are AP rounds in general

[stone bay]

Especially at a distance

[waxen grove]

Isn’t the most common ammunition in the states regular hollow point

[stone bay]

Pretty sure

[desert island]

no its usually fmj

[light walrus]

No its full metal jacket usually. It's cheaper to produce

[desert island]

suspects dont shoot accurately they just spray and spray often

so u just get hit in the exterior limbs

and the damage they do is very noticeable

[stone bay]

As they're bounding side to side

[light walrus]

So that explains why their shots keep B lining to my legs despite using the shield

[vernal bane]

We're running full game% now, wish us luck

[desert island]

they have reduced accuracy while moving

[waxen grove]

Unless something has changed between when I last played and now they don’t spray randomly. They aim directly at you and go for the kill

[stone bay]

My ass

[light walrus]

My usual strat now if I start taking fire is to unload like 10 rounds into their general area and back off.

[desert island]

they aim at u but their angle of fire is very large

[waxen grove]

I couldn’t find anything like that in the ai files

[desert island]

well in the ai mod text file theres values for it

like u can change how easy they can see u and their hearing distance

[waxen grove]

I might need a new thingy to map the files then

[desert island]

but yeah its very difficult to complete a mission without taking damage

yet if they were all terrible at aimming then none of them would be a threat

[light walrus]

Does eating shots even take off points? I dont think so right?

[waxen grove]

But in my experience they still aim for you and don’t spray. In swat 4 they would aim in your general direction and pull the trigger, RoN has them look directly at you and follow you thought walls because realism

[desert island]

no being injured just gives u debuffs

[waxen grove]

This isn’t a good thing

[desert island]

the game is already too easy

[light walrus]

I can handle being debuffed but I would crash out if eating shots take off points

[light walrus]

Its actually easy to not take damage cause you got bangers bro

Throw a banger and stun grenade you're clearing a room fast

[desert island]

well even when doing no damage runs its very difficult cuz enemies eventually become clairvoyant

if they r stressed enough they just shoulder their weapons and find u based on ur normal footstep noise

[waxen grove]

That’s implying that they didn’t see you first.

[desert island]

and just get ready to shoot at u once they have line of sight

and their footstep detection distance is like huge

[light walrus]

Most of the time even if they shoot first they always miss their first 3 shots

[waxen grove]

The bulk of the difficulty comes from the broken ai. The moment it’s fixed this game is a cake work.

[light walrus]

Gives you more than enough time to return fire tbh.

[waxen grove]

Are we playing the same game?

[desert island]

well ur rolling a dice and prbly the 10th guy will hit u in the first 3 shots

[light walrus]

Its strictly from my own anecdotal experience though.

Ive been playing the game on commander mode all morning today

[waxen grove]

I know base game ai has not been touched since dlc1 sooo mods?

[light walrus]

None

[desert island]

yeah if they made the ai blind the game would have no horror

[waxen grove]

This isn’t a horror game. We don’t need to feel dread walking though a hallway hoping a loose floor board gives away our location so the ai can shoot thought the walls to fuck us up

[light walrus]

I was clearing the apartments (the one with the navy officer) I managed to clear it solo without eating any shots.