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[amber dock]

Are you yelling for compliance?

[tulip valve]

Yep

Also is there a way to exit reload or arrest animations?

[amber dock]

I don't really belive you, it might take few shots but it still doesn't take long for MAJORITY of suspects to surrender

[tulip valve]

Gtg, but I'll run one of each weapon

[jolly verge]

1 Pacifier fix this issue #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[lone cloud]

they added a block button, use it

[wraith arrow]

It makes me laugh how they do the animation of giving up while they bleed from the neck and in the end they just fall

[tulip valve]

Are the guys on lethal obsession just immune to beanbags?

[amber dock]

no just very resilient

[tulip valve]

goofy

I just got an unauthorized use of force penalty on an S run of LO because I TASED THE MAIN SUSPECT WHO WAS ACTIVELY CRAWLING THROUGH THOSE BARBED AREAS

He was literally escaping what am i supposed to do?

[amber dock]

wait for him to come out and then shot and yell at him

[tulip valve]

imo escaping should count as authorized use of nonlethal force

[amber dock]

escaping doesn't exists on every map besides that one so that's why theirs no system for it

And he can't go outside anyway

There isn't any behaviour for him to do that

[tulip valve]

I mean he did already drop his weapon, so I guess he couldnt have done much

but still, very annoying

[amber dock]

Map is so small anyway

so restarting won't hurt

[tulip valve]

Kinda will, mostly because I get jumpscarwd by every single face I see

[clever girder]

Relapse is so tough bruh

Died to last Suspect running out from the dark stairs I didn't even know about

Also, Relapse need a huge AI "map" improvement

Teammates can't walk through a door, saying "no way through" passing through it 3 seconds ago

Or get on first floor (to the surgery room) through stairs

[lean pollen]

why ready or not always asks admin permission to play

[amber dock]

Windows defender being cautious

[fervent zealot]

Here's something I wonder
Has Isaac got an easter-egg hidden somewhere on a map like Shayne? Because both him and Shayne are absolute units of story-telling and comedy

[amber dock]

What?

[fervent zealot]

Hold on

[fervent zealot]

Go to 4:00 timestamp and you'll understand (hopefully)

https://youtu.be/B2so4WTSZfg?si=Kj7dN-8NHtm-HiWx

[amber dock]

Never heard of that

[fervent zealot]

The more you know 🌠

Im just curious if the dev-team hid Isaac somewhere

[tulip valve]

I literally would've gotten S on Lethal Obsession IF MY TEAM DIDNT START SHOOTING AT A SUSPECT

So close yet so far for this mission

[covert aurora]

in the end...

i didn't even matter, you had to fall to lose it al...

:)

in all seriousness congrat

[tulip valve]

ty, onto the next hellish mission

First thing I did on Ides of March was question if there was traps on this mission

There was in fact traps on this mission

[stable kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

Only flash traps vanilla, if you run mods it might be more lethal

[tulip valve]

Im running 0 mods, there are grenade traps

Only grenade traps

instant death

[stable kernel]

Oh Ides

I misread

[tulip valve]

Wait what map has flash?

[stable kernel]

Yeah that is all frags

Sins has flash traps

[tulip valve]

oh, dont think im near sins yet

[tiny quail]

my general rule for ides of march is clear the middle room, block off all the doors leading to the other room, then slowly make your way around the map

[rare nest]

Agreed. Entering the Middle room then clearing everything else is a good idea.

[tiny quail]

i somehow had more trouble doing mindjot than ides of march these days

one suspect fake surrendered then it snowballs into the bulk of the suspects running in and getting gunned down

ONLY ONE ACTUALLY SURRENDERED AND ARRESTED

"If they don't surrender, they probably know what's in the drives." yeah no shit chief

[wraith arrow]

The only thing I hate about relapse is that I have to play hide and seek with the last suspect or civilian.

Seriously, if you play with an enhanced AI mod don't do it, I chased a civilian through the 3 floors because the guy was running up and down stairs

[tiny quail]

even the civvies is uncooperative los suenos is beyond saving bruh

[wraith arrow]

kills a suspect who raised his gun because he was pointing it at me
The civilian next to him: "Oh my God, why did you kill him?"

I don't know, maybe because before we arrived he killed all the medical staff and also if I kill him "before time" they'll give me -50 for "excessive use of force"

Oh sure, let's forgive the terrorists who killed everyone and possibly finished off the people who survived the neon club shooting.

[tiny quail]

mfs expect us to do a 10 minute standoff with the guy

[wraith arrow]

I always thought that people who survived the neon club and then were attacked in relapse, must feel like people who survived the First World War only to have the Second World War come along.

[tiny quail]

isn't there like a civillian voicelines where he goes something along the lines of "fuck it im leaving this city after this!"

[wraith arrow]

ides of march

the best call fr

"Fucking city, man. I hate it here."
" God, what a day."

the best guy in the game

[tiny quail]

like i mean how inhospitable a city has to be if you survive a terrorist attack, get into a hospital, then the same terrorist group come raid it

from gas station robbery to human trafficking dude this city is done for 😭

[reef umbra]

It's only done for when officers like us stop responding.

[tiny quail]

I mean i feel like that's the theme of the game, city's at rock bottom, you know is ultimately fruitless, but you still have a duty to do, (cough cough) Ready Or Not™️.

[tulip valve]

Is that a...
reference?

[wraith arrow]

The US Army must have had its peak recruitment numbers again after that

"Don't fuck with me. I went out partying with some friends, they attacked us, we survived the attack, and in the hospital the same group attacked us again."

[stone bay]

Does anyone know why my replays aren't saving?

I know it's off by default, but everytime I start the game I check and make sure it's on

and even though it is, none of my replays save. Not even just in the menu but not in my replay folder either

[left stump]

Burp

[pastel adder]

What’re y’all’s take on the whole overarching implication that’s there’s an organization hidden within the government?

Like I know it’s not confirmed but I do see the heavy implications that you, and more broadly, the LSPD, are a pawn in some higher organization’s hidden agenda

Things like Sullivan’s Slope and then Carriers Of The Vine’s cult leader really make me feel like we’re (occasionally at least) being used as a weapon

[soft trout]

if you have hte dlc's , can you unlock cosmetics if a friend owns the dlc and you play the map?

or do only the dlc owner gets the skins?

[jolly verge]

There is nothing on DLC missions you can unlock, you get all things when you buy it

[rare nest]

VOID Interactive should make RoN VR compatible. Am I wrong?

[prime wing]

could they? Idk, should they? Not really. Theres plenty of things that wouldnt translate well to vr, especially when the game is not built around it.

[rare nest]

It could work tho. RoN as a VR experience? I'd buy a META QUEST just for that

Anyone else realise if you fail in IRONMAN mode, you can just close the game?

[tiny quail]

oh my god the ai is fucking nuts

one time they skipped an alive suspect to arrest and instead rushed to the other room

the other time they immediately run to cuff a dead suspect while knowing another one is aiming and ended up getting the civillians killed, IN GREASED PALMS OF ALL MISSION

[rare nest]

ahaha. That mission? Of all missions? That is sad...

[tiny quail]

this is my fifth alt f4 for this mission, dude...

[rare nest]

Oh gosh

[tiny quail]

i just want to play with officers with traits 😭

[rare nest]

REAL

[tiny quail]

so im stuck between having the risk of ruining over my entire save, or stuck with prescott

[rare nest]

There needs to be an easier way to get officer's with traits.

[tiny quail]

i just want quick play with officers traits...

[rare nest]

I feel that.

[tiny quail]

"I'm on your side dumbass!" THEN STOP SHOOTING AT US CUSTOMS INSPECTORS JACK ADAMS

[warm kettle]

I want to do that run but I know I will hate it and do greased palms agaaaaain hahahah

[tiny quail]

WE DON'T NEED AN EXTRA VARIABLE I ALREADY GOT 3 CARTEL MEMBERS PINING ME DOWN

[rare nest]

Haha. Anyone else hate Twisted Nerve?

[rare nest]

I died like 40 times just trying to complete it normal.

[warm kettle]

Yeah I was in it 3 days trying S Rank

[rare nest]

Im trying to S every mission, so far ive gotten 3. Skipped Twisted nerve.

[warm kettle]

Oooh

[rare nest]

I already want to quit, lol.

[tiny quail]

Funnily enough, twisted nerve is one of my favorite

but yes the s rank grind for that mission is hellish

[warm kettle]

Feel that

[gloomy smelt]

nightmare

bolton security everywhere

random guy who send illegal photos

and last but not least

THE HOMELESS CIVILIANS THAT MAKE ME DIE

[rare nest]

REALLLL

[tiny quail]

I DID IT, SCREW YOU GREASED PALMS

[lavish monolith]

need some help, i have this gun mod and the animation is too fast (when going into ads and canted sights). Any way to slow it down or make it default speed?

[rare nest]

NICEEEE

[copper cypress]

This map SWAT Ai can help you a lot.

[tiny quail]

the swat ai in question throws himself into line of fire just to secure a gun

i even asked the team to hold

[sonic portal]

Yo what is the hardest map yet

[tiny quail]

we talking map designs and the suspects or sheer size

[sonic portal]

all combined

[tiny quail]

3 Letter Triad

20-ish suspects, a bajillion room, 3 floors

[copper cypress]

You should use fall in

[lavish monolith]

anyone may be able to help?

[winged sky]

anyone able to tell me why my games freezing every 10-15 seconds for like 5 seconds?

[lavish monolith]

whats your specs, when did it start?

[winged sky]

its been doin it for a couple weeks now. i got a radeon eagle 6600

[lavish monolith]

did u change anything in the video settings?

[winged sky]

textures been messed w sitting at high
shadow medium
post process medium
anti aliasing high
vfx medium
ambient medium
reflection medium
view distance epic

vsync disabled

[lavish monolith]

only in ready or not?

[winged sky]

yeah

[lavish monolith]

other games no stuttering?

[winged sky]

no

[lavish monolith]

so, does this freeze happen all the time or only when you do specific things (like shoot a gun or order an AI to do something... etc)?

[winged sky]

pretty much in general

[lavish monolith]

have you tried running the game in dx11 instead or dx12 or vice versa

[winged sky]

yes happens in both, it didnt do this till like the last month or so

[lavish monolith]

hmmm

thats weird, have you updated you gpu drivers?

[vivid scaffold]

does dx11 fix stuttering and spike drops (i only get these issues in readu or not)

[tired jungle]

Depends on your hardware

some systems run better on 12, some better on 11

Generally new hardware is good on 12

[clever girder]

<input A-Train video>

[pastel adder]

So I want to check to see if it’s because my system is lackluster but does the SWAT AI struggle with move and clear with you guys too sometimes?

Like they’ll either stand there for ten seconds straight before moving or they won’t open the door at all or one of them will try to “go the long way around”

[wraith basin]

Happens often, yeah.

[warm kettle]

Yeah happens

[charred meteor]

Hear me out, UMP is OP.

[tacit gull]

It's really not, it is interesting to use though

Once you're tired of the meta pick 0 recoil 308 rifles

[tacit gull]

There are some things tied to system performance but i think the SWAT AI fail to move because of a bug they bandaided out with the SWAT AI requeuing actions if they fail them

[sonic portal]

what is the best rifle/smg to use in game

with best stability and range

[pastel adder]

I always find the best all around rifle to be the MCX or ARN. SMG is definitely the MP7 imo

The MCX and ARN don’t hit as hard as others but they have minimal recoil and then the MP7 just hand out AP rounds like candy

[sonic portal]

oh forgot about damage too

[pastel adder]

The MP7 isn’t very good at long range but it operates off of the “saturation of fire” mindset

If you fire 10 billion rounds. At least a couple are going to find their mark

[sonic portal]

i use the MK18 and i feel like its a good gun, is there a better one?

[pastel adder]

For range as a whole, the MK14 EBR, SA58, MK17 SCAR, and the G3 all are extremely hard hitting and long range rifles

But they have terrible stability

[jolly verge]

It's really irrelevant, any rifle require 2 body shot to incap, 1 for 7.62x51 on almost all maps, 2-3 for smgs

[pastel adder]

I find that the MK16 SCAR is a good in between for most people. It hits very hard but it’s still manageable in terms of recoil

[sonic portal]

noted

what about bullet type? ive never really understood them

[tired jungle]

308 is too good

[pastel adder]

As in JHP versus AP or calibers?

[jolly verge]

If you want less recoil here is a little table with all rifles and smgs

[tired jungle]

Very litte reason to use jhp in most maps

[jolly verge]

Depends on map

[copper cypress]

Does Kevlar ​​have a reduced effect on rifle damage?

[pastel adder]

JHP is good for the first couple of maps but you should almost always bring AP rounds 90% of the time

[pastel adder]

Kevlar is lowkey useless imo

I always wear steel but a lot of people prefer ceramic

[sonic portal]

i wear steel

[tacit gull]

It depends on the caliber, JHP is hollowpoints, as in they expand and are not built to penetrate armor but they do more damage to flesh and FMJ are full metal jackets which are built to penetrate armor

[jolly verge]

Yes, but because damage cap is broken there is no point to use kevlar or steel

[tired jungle]

The thing about the mp5's is that with an injured arm it starts to jump left and right like crazy. Kinda ruins them imo

[copper cypress]

I also like using steel lol

[jolly verge]

Yeah, angle recoil is higher on most smgs

[pastel adder]

Steel never shatters but has a chance for rounds that hit you to shatter and injure your limbs and people around you

Ceramic stops ALL damage from a round but will eventually break and leave you with minimal armor

[copper cypress]

damage cap is broken? What did you mean? Game bug?

[jolly verge]

You dying in 3-4 shots with kevlar and steel

It's does not work atm correctly

[sonic portal]

does ballistic mask actually protect?

[tacit gull]

Rounds don't shatter to your limbs, worst case scenario it deals some flat damage to teammates in an AOE

[pastel adder]

Really? Currently for me, the steel plates make me tank nearly all torso shots but eventually I bleed out from my arms and legs

[pastel adder]

Only for one or two bullets

[copper cypress]

But sometimes I was hit more than 5 times while wearing steel and did not die.

[tacit gull]

It only increases the health of your helmet

[pastel adder]

The ballistic mask is always overshadowed by the gas mask imo

CS gas is too good to forfeit

[jolly verge]

Low caliber that do not deal more than 70 damage will take more shots, but with rifles like 7.62x39 you will die in 4 hits

[sonic portal]

i use gas mask and anti-flash

[pastel adder]

Also for anyone who hasn’t done it yet. You should always have a shield on your AI team. He will automatically enter all rooms first and it genuinely saves so much time and effort

[jolly verge]

1 durability 25% ricochet chance vs 2 durability 33% ricochet chance, you can't die on headshot until your helmet is broken

[tacit gull]

untill he pushes through a door while pulling out his shield

Shield on AI is SUPER hit or miss

[pastel adder]

Or when he stands in the corner and the team moves up without him

Peak AI design :/

[jolly verge]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[tacit gull]

I wouldn't put a shield on AI purely because it breaks entries

Most of the time they kill themselves with the terrible behaviours

[sonic portal]

wish the game has the feature that makes you talk the commands instead of pressing them

[copper cypress]

Not if there is protection from cover? Suppose I use the walls of a neon tomb as a cover.

[pastel adder]

Question for yall. I bet it’s mostly preference but do yall bring any breaching devices? And if so do you bring ram or shotgun?

[sonic portal]

shotgun

faster and cooler imo

[tacit gull]

only one worth using is the shotgun

[pastel adder]

Cover gives protection but some enemies have powerful enough weapons that their rounds pierce walls

[sonic portal]

you can even kill with it

[copper cypress]

I don't know if the walls of the nightclub are made of enough material to block the 7.62x39 AP lmao

[jolly verge]

If damage reduced to 70 after wall armor will correctly calculate it, but it's still better with ceramic, because you receive less durability damage as well

[tacit gull]

Bullets will deal decreased damage through walls (thank fuck)

[copper cypress]

🤣

[pastel adder]

I tend to bring SA58 with AP for Neon Nightclub simply because it will annihilate armor

If the first round doesn’t knock the guy out or kill him, the second one will tear through his vest

[jolly verge]

You don't need AP here, only one suspect wear level 4 on this mission

and both AP and JHP deal same durability damage

[pastel adder]

Really? I’m genuinely slow 😭

I used to ALWAYS run the Supernova tbh. It’s just so satisfying to use

[sonic portal]

i got so used to the shotgun that i automatically reload my rifle and it fucks it up

[charred meteor]

Thanks for sending this lmao

[copper cypress]

If the bullet's penetrating power is too strong, it may kill the hostage as well lol

[charred meteor]

m1014 is where its at bro

[pastel adder]

That’s a risk I’m willing to take (not actually)

[pastel adder]

It’s satisfying to hear the pause when the suspect is reloading and you can just go “my turn” and send a WALL of buckshot down range

[charred meteor]

Wait is supernova pump action or semi?

[copper silo]

NOOOOO DONT USE SHOTGN

[copper cypress]

I've shot civilians to death in Elephant and Sins of the Father because of the strong penetration of bullets😅
I used 7.62 x 51 AP

[charred meteor]

🤫

[charred meteor]

^

[sonic portal]

the only shotgun i use is the less lethal one

[pastel adder]

It’s pump

[charred meteor]

its still OP. lmao.

[charred meteor]

PLEASE do me a favor and try the m1014

[pastel adder]

I use buckshot supernova constantly because even with armored suspects, it’s likely to tear off an arm and kill them

[pastel adder]

Betttt. I will once I’m done seeing the hit blockbuster “A Minecraft Movie” starring Jackson Blackson

[copper silo]

no dont doi.....

[jolly verge]

25% dismember chance per pellet hit

[copper silo]

shootgan bad.d..

[charred meteor]

Also is that a Komi Can't communicate pfp I notice?

[charred meteor]

Gamblers odds, I like it.

[pastel adder]

The absolute DESPERATE tone I read this in is WILD

[pastel adder]

Yes. She’s my little blorbo and fictional best friend

[charred meteor]

SAME HAHAHA

[charred meteor]

I watched like season one a handful of years ago.

[sonic portal]

i hate when i accidentally headshot the suspect

[pastel adder]

The rest of the show is GREAT if you’re into slice of life stuff. So is the manga. Big recommend (I am a dork)

[pastel adder]

Me when I ruin my nonlethal run (I’m TOO good at this game)

[charred meteor]

I don't blame you.

[sonic portal]

im trying to s rank all the maps

[jolly verge]

You do it in commander mode?

[sonic portal]

nope

its kind of hard there cause the bots are dumb

i always run solo

[jolly verge]

Shame, with traits you can do really fun stuff #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[sonic portal]

make them hold at the beg

[sonic portal]

ur FOV is toooo close

[jolly verge]

Or this #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[sonic portal]

thats actually crazy

how do you manage to do that

[jolly verge]

Officers traits

[sonic portal]

What do you set them to?

[jolly verge]

2x negotiators to make suspect surrender with 50% chance from yell

[sonic portal]

i just hate when they get too stressed or die so then i gotta replace them

and the other 2?

[jolly verge]

Depends, if you playing with VPL and bunch of cs gas 1 pacifier and 1 armorer

If beanbag - 2 pacifier instead for 50% surrender chance from hit or stun from grenade

For taser only you need 2 intimidators and 2 pacifiers, but it's does not work on 4 missions where suspects stressed from the start (Lethal obsession, Elephant, Club, Relapse)

[sonic portal]

i play beanbag so i should use 2x negotiatiors and 2x pacifier?

[jolly verge]

Yeap

and a lot of flashbangs/stingers + m320

[sonic portal]

when i do those runs should i let the bots at the start or use them, if so do give the bots shotguns or the rifle

i tried the shotgun but they sometimes accidentally headshot the enemy

[jolly verge]

They better with VPL, shotgun firerate for swat ai is really slow

[jolly verge]

They can't kill with beanbag

only you

[sonic portal]

wait really?

i thought they can kill accidentally

[jolly verge]

This bug was fixed a year ago, but some people still think it's a thing

[sonic portal]

one of them is me, :laugh:

bruh it doesnt work here

[jolly verge]

I even test it #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[sonic portal]

how many hours do you have on this gamE?

[jolly verge]

1250

[sonic portal]

damnn

i only got 212

[jolly verge]

Most of this time i was AFK or in FModel/UAssetGUI

[sonic portal]

what should i use when i do the S rank runs, CS or Flash

[copper cypress]

wait…A beanbag shotgun no longer capable of single-shotting a suspect in the head?

[jolly verge]

Yes, for swat ai

[jolly verge]

Depends, on big open spaces stingers will be better than flashbangs, for room clearing cs gas since it's ignores obstacles, you can also use it for cover as well if you want #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[copper cypress]

The only thing that can currently stop the Stinger is the Tactical Shield?

[jolly verge]

Nope, shields do not protect from grenades, if you in radius of explosion you will be hit by it, unless you behind some cover

[copper cypress]

[dusk mauve]

meow?

[tulip valve]

Miau

[copper cypress]

In some levels, civilians and suspects are wearing similar clothes and holding nothing. How can we tell who is who?

[dusk mauve]

pres f to yell 4 compliance

ffff

[sonic portal]

you have everything figured out

[copper cypress]

But what if this attracts other suspects nearby to attack? I want to play silent infiltration lol

[sonic portal]

in some levels the shooters act like civs

[copper cypress]

Yeah. It is annoying

[sonic portal]

i mean the game is supposed to be realistic isnt it?

🤣

[copper cypress]

I don’t think so…

[jolly verge]

If you bash civilian with primary he will always surrender

[copper cypress]

If it’s a suspect?

[jolly verge]

Will just deal 1.0 morale damage

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[jolly verge]

In some cases it's might make suspect comply, but it's very rare

[copper cypress]

Got it.

[tiny quail]

so i just found a glitch where if you throw an arrested suspects/civillians into the deeper pool in valley of the dolls, there's a chance they'll just ragdoll up into the air and be flinged into the distance, and the game doesn't acknowledged it so it doesn't penalized you

so your honor i technically didn't "kill" amos voll

[hybrid basin]

No, you simply yote him. The pool rejected him, judgement was dealt

[hybrid basin]

is there like a setting where I can tone down how damn bright the tablet is?

[white bronze]

yall what does the low ready style setting mean?

[wraith basin]

When you press space, your character sets your weapon in low ready position. You can walk faster this way.

[white bronze]

ohh

okayyy ty ^^

[wraith basin]

*👍 *

[copper sierra]

You guys i have a question i only played normal ready or not not the other DLC‘s i wanna ask at the last mission FISA Commander told us to shut the door etc etc the stuff where we had to close the container and leave the woman behind did anything happend after the mission ? Like was there explained why we had to close the doors ?

Or if FISA was corrupt

[tulip valve]

Is there a way to disable ai in story mode singleplayer?

Ohh quick play exists

[hybrid basin]

all we know is- it was relevant to a different investigation and didn't involve us so we moved on and we never learn about what happened

[copper sierra]

Kk

[hybrid basin]

it might come back around later, but for now there's nothing more to it

[copper sierra]

It would be nice if there would come a new and last dlc which reveals everything

[hybrid basin]

I assume that's the overarching narrative plan, but I do feel like they're touching themes that sometimes you just never know what happens beyond what you were told

[oak blaze]

can anyone recommend any custom maps, all the official ones are getting boring

[stone bay]

yo

how many soft evidence is there in vaalley of dolls

[pastel adder]

I think three. I think the laptop on his bed or the computer in his office, the destroyed evidence around the mansion, and then the photo room downstairs

[still sable]

do u need to have win-rar to download mods for ready or not

or can u js manually extract the mod

[shy tulip]

You will need some kinda software to do it. I think Windows 11 has a built in tool now.

Winrar, 7zip, doesn't matter, your choice

[still sable]

but for windows 11

i can js do it myself

[solar talon]

vol 84 update when??

[shy tulip]

When it's ready

[covert aurora]

or Not

[hollow cedar]

Two. The PC is a main objective

[shadow ether]

I choose to believe this is the last mission in the main game because Judge gets turbo-fired after it

[old blaze]

I hate the will of fight in the dudes from Ends of the Earth

[tame osprey]

I wish there was the option to carry no primary weapon in exchange for a speed boost.

Also because I want to force the team to use the .357 exclusively without them switching back to a primary with no ammo in between engagements.

[reef anvil]

Arma or battlefield shenanigans

we love the bouncy water

[eager walrus]

police don't get fired lmao

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think that using the move and clear command will only cause damage to Ai teammates in 80% of cases?

[hidden coral]

Anyone think the game loads and freezes way more recently?

[amber dock]

How recently we talking

[peak depot]

Yes, I posted about it on feedback forum

Not only cause damage to swat but also they kill the suspects before even whatever they threw in goes of

Which kind of kills the point of using grenades with swat AI

I mean who throws in a flash bang and stares into the room where it explodes lmao

[hidden coral]

Like the past week or two?

cause it takes like 2 minutes to load a level

[amber dock]

Nothing has changed since then

[hidden coral]

alr I'll just verify my game then

[sullen cliff]

I mean, they do have anti-flash goggles, and it is pretty realistic to do it if it is real life for some organizations because flash grenades are distraction devices, they are usually thrown at a known threat that isn’t surrendering

[peak depot]

Anti flash googles don't matter, if you lean towards the room and engage suspects then there is no point of throwing in a flashbang

The reason I order them to throw flashbang is to prevent swat from getting shot and possibly arresting suspect alive

On some real life examples they sometimes throw bang in and close the door again

Or they use a very short fuse

Nobody leans into the room

[sullen cliff]

Fair, it just depends on the situation, but i think the game assumes they are cutting off the angle so nobody can traverse it

[rare nest]

Do I try and A-S Greased Palms?

[tacit gull]

In real life flashbangs don't just straight up disable suspects, they're mainly used as a distraction to get them to not focus on the door

You absolutely push in with the flash and engage enemies after it goes off, even SAS trained with that in mind

[dark mural]

yes

bring flashbangs and pepperball guns

A LOT of flashbangs.

and maybe some shields

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think shotguns are in games just for fun?

[surreal merlin]

is flashbang better than gas?

[tacit gull]

Shotguns are still being used for various roles in real life too

[surreal merlin]

i feel like i enjoy gas more but flash you dont need gas mask just anti flash goggles or dont look at it

[tacit gull]

personally i think it's infinitely better than gas

[jolly verge]

Depends

Gas ignores obstacles and gives you protection from suspects vision, but it's has small 8m radius
Flashbang can't stun through anything, but has 10m radius, stinger is the same thing as flashbang but with 12m radius and higher damage upclose

[surreal merlin]

so flashbangs and stingers are really good?

[twilit mulch]

everything's really good, depends on what you're trying to achieve

[surreal merlin]

ah ok

[twilit mulch]

stick to flashbangs by default. They work everywhere 😉

[copper cypress]

protection from suspect vision!?

[surreal merlin]

i can just have a team member with gas launcher and rest with flashes and stingers

mirrorgun is essential
also ram or shotgun since my legs are constantly broken in every mission

lol

[jolly verge]

Yeap, check this https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1144200/view/4210378060872317425

[copper cypress]

Has anyone tested whether it actually works?

I thought this was just an official joke😂

[jolly verge]

Yes https://discord.com/channels/310075021882294272/1350346494875799634

[copper cypress]

Has this been fixed?

[jolly verge]

It's intended, but looks very odd imo

I don't think they will "fix" it

[copper cypress]

All right@_@

[pastel adder]

Agreed here

Flashbangs are good all rounders

Stingers are great for rooms full of just suspects due to the incapacitating nature

CS gas is great for clearing medium to large rooms you know will have multiple people in it like atriums and lobbies

[hybrid basin]

cs gas is fantastic in dorms

just yeet a few around the hallway and it just gets a lot of them to chill out

[pastel adder]

Dorms, Relaspe, Neon, etc all are great for CS gas

Anything that has a “large center room(s)”

Lowkey want VOID to add a bolt action rifle as a high power high recoil DMR/sniper option

[surreal merlin]

didnt do dorms yet i still have to do the dlcs

[gaunt gale]

Anything in those letters is certainly not a joke

[hybrid basin]

so you're saying there's a chance I could get my Judge pillow?

https://tenor.com/wKOs.gif

[twilit mulch]

u can order custom pillowcases anywhere with whatever you want on them. The prices are between 20$ and 60$ depending on where you're from...

[unborn pelican]

Yes

[hollow cedar]

Do police forces even have access to weapons like DMRs lmaoo

Bolt action rifles I think?

But yeah, a lot of weapons we could be playing with, which is exciting

[twilit mulch]

PTUs do, yes. They have snipers

[pastel adder]

I mean the MK14 EBR is technically a DMR, just some SWAT forces decide to use a shortened version as a battle rifle

[tacit gull]

Most of the weapons added this update can be considered DMRs with the proper kit

[hollow cedar]

Interesting. Are you allowed to say?

Also, is there an ETA on the update?

[tacit gull]

Not the next one, dark waters i mean

The G3, SOCOM and SCAR-H* have all been used as DMRs

[gaunt gale]

A boltgun is certainly not a DMR

They're also likely never going to be added officially

[tiny quail]

i love this server just for the sheer amount of cat stickers and emojis it has

[dusk mauve]

[urban walrus]

The block works but you have to slow walk or crouch walk, or else they can track your location and shoot at that direction.

[copper cypress]

🤔

[obsidian jolt]

I cannot wait for the difficulty setting, I swear some suspects are navy seals

[shy tulip]

Bro wasn't ready

[tulip valve]

do i just sorta explode whenever i kill a civ in multiplayer?

Turns out no, just that every single time I would shoot a civ, they conveniently had a bomb strapped to them each time

[vague locust]

remember, best way to handle bombers is to tase them, no need to use any other way to drop them

[tulip valve]

I was trying to go for a kill everyone run on neon tomb for the funny

[plucky cave]

Is the intel bug still a thing?

Where ya crash everytime on specific missions

[covert aurora]

the intel freeze bug? no that fixed that awhile ago

[shy tulip]

(Assuming you updated your bios)

[stable kernel]

No the ai freeze one sinner

13-14 won’t ever go away until all old boards are out of circulation

[rugged sundial]

Should i use Lvar or a 7.62x51

[rugged sundial]

Beanbag good too?

[plucky cave]

Watcha know about high latency?

[stable kernel]

The game is peer to peer through steam proxy, so it happens

[plucky cave]

Is there a way to dampen it so we can get through some missions?

[stable kernel]

Don’t use Wi-Fi on both ends

[plucky cave]

Yikes

[stable kernel]

I can play with people in Europe and OCE fine despite high latency, but one in particular has a poor connection between us so it just is what it is and there’s nothing to be done about it. Just comes with the peer to peer system.

[tame badger]

Are you able to to breach a door with a normal shotgun or it has to be the breaching shotgun?

[dark mural]

Breaching shotgun is one shot

you can blow out any wooden door's handles with ANY gun

but you'd need to shoot it more

It takes 12 rounds of .357 to blow out a door handle

[tame badger]

My question was not answered exactly. Can I use a primary shotgun as a breaching shotgun?

To the same effectiveness

[dark mural]

Yes.

Yes you can.

but you WILL need to shoot it more.

hence game mechanics

[tame badger]

So the answer is no, I cannot use the primary shotgun as a breaching shotgun.

[dark mural]

technically.

[dark mural]

to answer your question, @tame badger it takes 6 buckshot to blow out a wooden doorknob

on the other hand, it takes 4-5 slugs.

[left stump]

Yeah technically you can. Just not as efficient as an actual breaching shotgun

[vague locust]

i was kidding cause tazer doesnt blow them up for some reason, its chill to just spam flashes, gas, pepperball spam their face, and beanbag their kneecaps to oblivion. all are viable, flash spam better (especially with flash launcher)

[rapid meadow]

i thought this was cod modern warfare at first😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XMOl6PKPn0

it looked like the mission where you raid barkovs mansion but it's ready or not

[fringe plover]

is Sanctum a working map and could be added to starter pack ?

[quick narwhal]

hello new player here, the first mission in the gas station briefing said there were 3 suspects but i encountered 5, who's the other two random thugs

[covert aurora]

just random suspects

[quick narwhal]

thx, also what does the keycard do

[stable kernel]

Nothing on that mission

[stable kernel]

No, that is why it isn't available for download

[quick narwhal]

i also just completed the second mission, a lot of pictures of minors of the guys computers and table. am in to a rabbit hole that im about to regret or what

[vague locust]

lores pretty fun, ye

[fringe plover]

shame, great map it was
atleast it's older brother remorse is good

[waxen echo]

any map/mod map that feels like the Clean House mission from modern warfare?

[dim oak]

I'd say 23 megabytes per second (the one with the streamer) is similar enough
Dunno bout mods

[alpine sail]

i think there was a map for that but its outdated and broken

[next elm]

Can someone tell me what otm ammo and how it differs from the other ammo types?

[alpine sail]

what if theres a dlc for april fools next year and its just judge going to a grocery store and buying items

full tactical gear and all

[jolly verge]

OTM is a modded ammo, read mod description

[hybrid basin]

I'd buy it

[stone bay]

Im going to lose my fucking mind with this cant detain bug

okay yeah no s rank valley of the dolls is fucking impossible

So fucking sick of this shit

[bold sky]

dw youll find that to be one of the easiest map of the game in like 1-2 more playthru prolly

[stone bay]

I have tried 8 fucking times now

every time the game fucks me

especially with the bug where I cant detain a suspect in a game about detaining suspects

the fucking guards are outrageously fast

[calm jacinth]

when new update????

[amber dock]

Soon

[calm jacinth]

yay i hope it doesn't take too long

[vague locust]

the no detain bug only seems to happen to me consistently when i flash someone whos in the middle of surrendering or about to

[scarlet flax]

Why can’t you arrest?

[scarlet flax]

Poke them. They go down for free.

[vague locust]

oh yeah havent tried that yet, ill see next time

its all this small stuff that makes S ranking annoying af

[hybrid basin]

S ranking greased palms is going to be the death of me lmao

and Hide'n'Seek too by extension

[vague locust]

honestly not too bad in multi, just gotta hope you got the right team for it

[tulip valve]

Greased is easy, wdym? Just grab a Taser, submachine pepper gun and gas grenades, and then you're almost guaranteed a win. Also, switch out your AI weapons for nonlethals, and make sure to equip full heavy armour and ceramic i think

I go bus bye

[hybrid basin]

Lmao, just been struggling clearing out the mail room cuz my dudes die there the most

[tulip valve]

Ohhh greased, I'm dumb

Yeah that's kinda difficult

Go from clearing the outside to the inside

Especially the outside area with all the trucks

[hybrid basin]

yeah I can handle that, it's just when I get in the mailrooms that my AI goes dumb and walks into the whole FISA office and get shot to death while I'm trying to stage up further away lol

[brazen stump]

Anyone got a spreadsheet of the individual AI Squadmate Perks and the value that they increase?

[tulip valve]

Have them mirror under the door, then move them far from it, and then open the door and flashbang it

[hybrid basin]

nah I mean the open area before the office, where there's usually a large concentration of suspects

the AI pathing just goes a little dumb in the whole maze

[tulip valve]

Oh that part

[hybrid basin]

cuz they'd be running through that open area where the dead body is and I'm like all the way over on the opposite side of the map and I'm like tf you doing there

[tulip valve]

Uhhhhh don't use ai for that, just go solo

[hybrid basin]

I had it.. my last run, it was so BEAUTIFUL... then I got domed

by the last suspect

[tulip valve]

In general I don't use ai for S runs

They just kinda stinky at it

[hybrid basin]

one suspect left, I had it in the bag

and he just domes me from across the room

fastest alt-f4 ever lol

[tulip valve]

Overall, all I can suggest is 0 AI, make sure to use shield

And load up on Taser rounds

[hybrid basin]

also I feel like the c2 achievement is broken lol

I've literally put c2 on the door and blown the guy away, and the trophy never popped

[tulip valve]

Make the door consist of c2, no more door, only c2

[hybrid basin]

turn it into c4

[stone bay]

has the same been updated?

suddenly games launching saying theres corrupt data and it needs verifying

[upbeat shore]

No.

[stone bay]

ok all my mods just suddenly broken then

amazing

[tame badger]

I didn't know there was tripwire traps on Lawmaker

I just blew up while securing Sven and clearing the room he was in

[stone bay]

steam taking the piss

deleted 1 mod subfolder to get rid of the files assuming verifying would replace

instead its going to reinstall the entire game for like 2 files

incredible

[tacit gull]

Steam usually only replaces the missing files, due to how ron's files are structured steam will reinstall basically half the game if one of them is missing or bad

[tulip valve]

am i going insane or is sins of the father harder to S in comparison with elephant

7/13 suspects, every single one was on the top floor

[dense aurora]

Yep that map is a hard one. As I was able to play, shame not anymore anyhow, I used always night vision, because esp. in rain it's hard to see

[tulip valve]

11/12 SUSPECTS AND ALL CIVVIES WERE SECURED

HE LITERALLY CAME OUT OF A CORNER IN THE KITCHEN ROOM AND JUST SHOT ME ONCE

im so done with this mission

[dense aurora]

Yerp I can totally understand your frustration

[tulip valve]

best part is that i had a glitched suspect on a new run, i tased him, i magdumped a peppergun into him, and beat him mercilessly and he was still refusing arrest

[dense aurora]

Yeah they need now to concentrate on fixing bugs and those goddamn crashes

well sorry, not trying to cry around here, but I'm mad I can't play and no nothing bad towards the devs

[tulip valve]

on the shield, I see that there are two lights and electric details on the inside, would the shield actually be able to flash or no?

[dense aurora]

I ain't that quite sure, but I would say no

[tulip valve]

Anyone have good s routes for sins of the Father

[pine valley]

just fiinished ends of the earth and the sad music started playing

[marsh quartz]

So is mission Spider bugged? Did a match perfectly and only got an A instead of A+

[jolly verge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Znj4rCaM8g6QREFNWwHRBFSdnfdzYM37Y5AeHQ10rtg/edit?usp=sharing

[brazen stump]

Thank you

[sinful flint]

bro fml

I had my best officer die on me while I was handling something else, and i have to play Valley of the dolls next

literal worst mission in the game imo

[frail pier]

What is recoil angle strength

[stable kernel]

The strength at which recoil angles

[stable kernel]

[pastel adder]

Really love how I got an F on a mission because I lost an officer (my fault), then a suspect domed a civilian in front of him while firing at me, and then my officer did the same thing five minutes later

Unlucky asf

[hybrid basin]

F is for Fantastic

[scarlet flax]

Guy I played duos and S ranked Greased Palms at last!

Honestly that level is very chaotic with all the angles in that warehouse. There’s people running around popping up every which corner.

[brazen stump]

That’s the one with the FISA agent right

[scarlet flax]

Yup.

We love that guy.

[brazen stump]

Lol cool, did u use AI?

[scarlet flax]

No did a duo.

Just me and my roommate.

[brazen stump]

AI prob would’ve made it a bit easier but I get wanting to play with ur bud

I just had AI stack every door, me use the camera thing, and then determine whether I wanted to just clear or gas + clear

Then had everyone with the pepperball gun

[scarlet flax]

Yeah entering multiple points at once would make clearing the warehouse much easier.

[brazen stump]

Oh no I had us all stay together

The route I used was one where all of the threat would be contained into a small area

Then once all that was cleared I then moved to the bigger, more risky, and open areas knowing that literally everything around it was clear

[scarlet flax]

Yeah that's what we did. Cleared all the small stuff first, wrapped around the outside, then went to warehouse.

[brazen stump]

You entered the loading bay via the outside?

[scarlet flax]

I think we cleared main post office first, got the locker rooms and hallway, went to secondary building, moved from there to Warehouse, cleared bridge, went all the way back to small loading dock, cleared outside, enter other side of warehouse via main loading bay/shipping area, cleared warehouse, pinched the cart area and office, then pinched upstairs.

[brazen stump]

Sounds like we did the same stuff

So far every S rank has been relatively smooth going with my strat outside of the fucking Elephant

[scarlet flax]

I think we have Valley of the Dolls next?

[brazen stump]

Ohhh that one

My advice to S rank that one is to completely avoid the opposite side of the house from where you spawn

That side has so many windows to the point that u will get shot when trying to arrest people from the outside or inside

Also the AI there gets very buggy

My AI stopped moving and got mowed down by suspects when clearing a room

If you’re to enter that area, enter once you’ve cleared literally everything else, and enter from the lowest floor of the compound

It’s a shitty area to clear with no surefire way of clearing it outside of using your own instincts

But I did whatever I could to mitigate risk by gassing out the place a ton, avoiding windows, and making surrendering suspects come to me

[scarlet flax]

Yeah it's going to be a fun time since it's just the two of us.

[zinc socket]

Is Big Shell Specialist doable in multi-player coop?

[tacit gull]

It should be

[narrow geode]

You can complete achievements in multiplayer

[tacit gull]

you can r

[dusk mauve]

mrrrp?

[vague locust]

curse this game, connection cuts out in the middle of a sick police combo for the beat cop achievement

[stone bay]

how is hide and seek s rank possible without cheats

[vague locust]

flash and gas spam

if you got boys struggling, put them on shields so they can chill out

[tacit gull]

literally just stay in the back of the map and have the ai waste all of their ammo shooting walls while you one tap them with the beanbag

[jolly verge]

How much weapon bounce to the left/right, ARWC with broken arm or UMP45 is good example

[stone bay]

wait they can run out of ammo?

[tacit gull]

yes

[tiny quail]

i never actually get to see the suspects run out of ammo, do they just automatically surrender?

[jolly verge]

Yes, they will check their weapon then drop it

[tacit gull]

they can also just

not do that

[stone bay]

Im so fucking done with this ai

civilians with spec ops fucking aim

I wish you could just fucking smoke everyone in valley of the dolls and still get an s rank

[tacit gull]

valley has some of the higher trained suspects

they do have some really shit angles they can pop out of in the party area

[jolly verge]

Yeah #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[stone bay]

Dude I just cant fucking beat it

the game fucking hates me

I finally clear it and then my beanbag kills some fucking stupid suspect

Im done trying Im fucking convinced I am cursed

[unborn pelican]

Don't aim at the head

[stone bay]

Oh wow thanks for the fucking advice

he fucking bent down for some reason as I shot

[waxen echo]

am I tripping or I remember someone saying something's gonna happen to the game this month

[tacit gull]

#announcements

[waxen echo]

Amazing

Splendid!

[sullen cliff]

Head me out, diamond formation, everyone has SLR47, dont stop moving

[bitter mason]

Death squad formation

[pearl shuttle]

Skill issue

[soft trout]

is the breaching shotgun bad? i cant seem to be effective with it. i tried shooting fgrom a distance for boobuy trap on the one map with veteran,s but still blew up,

am i doing it wrong? is there a mod that alllows you to replace ur long ranged tactical for an actual shotgun or for a pistol or something?

[tacit gull]

No, breaching shotguns are not made for shooting from a distance

They're also not good for disabling traps (anymore)

[lost inlet]

What did they do to it?

[amber dock]

Breach shooty used to have infinite range….

Good ol days

[soft trout]

so they just suck now? it seems like the battering ram can do everything the shotgun can

[thorn summit]

bro why do people load up a public game just to friendly fire

im in oce so theres barely any lobbies aswell

[amber dock]

Cause it’s public matchmaking… that’s the reality.

[tacit gull]

The battering ram is easily worse in every way

[amber dock]

You have to be close

You have to kiss the door for it to work

It’s slow,

[thorn summit]

its got style points

[amber dock]

[tacit gull]

You have a fuckin anvil sticking off your back

[thorn summit]

exactly

[tacit gull]

back problems are back in fashion

[lost inlet]

They make it has stereotypical first person shooter shotgun range?

[narrow geode]

You have to be really close to the door

Wish we could just remove tacticals
They look bad

[tacit gull]

this but unironically

[wraith basin]

I wish we could just blow locks off from doors with normal shotties, just like in RSV2.

[copper cypress]

Would a pistol round have a wider hitbox than a bean bag round or a taser?

[narrow geode]

[urban walrus]

With the new direction that they are going for, maybe one day

[bitter mason]

Less lethals for long tacticals when 🗣️

tac700 and compact beanbag shotgun for long tactical pleaaaase

[jolly verge]

All guns are hitscan and use raycast instead of actual bullet projectile, which has no width
Beanbag, pepperballs and m320 do use projectiles with different size, so you won't be able to shoot through small gap in the double doors as example

[copper cypress]

Oh~

[stoic shoal]

Can suspects shoot eachother?
Trying to get S rank and one of the enemies died (bleeding and all) and none of my bots have lethal ammo/guns (including the nonlethal shotgun). (I dont either) so wtf happened :d

[jolly verge]

Yes, they also can suicide

[stoic shoal]

oof thats rough

[jolly verge]

Also beanbag is safe for swat ai

[soft trout]

Mod it so you have the anvil to be a judge body pillow instead 😤😤

[lone cloud]

it was so goated. i loved sniping doors from across the map with it

post nerf battering ram is vastly superior

✅ no reload
✅ infinite ammo
✅ can push officers around the station with it

i also bring a ridiculous amount of c2 though

[waxen echo]

is it just me or the pistols looks small as hell?

[vague locust]

theyre a perfectly average size (to me)

[copper cypress]

Why do some players still prefer to break into the door even though they and SWAT Ai have tools to pick locks in the game?

[hybrid basin]

breaching affects suspect and civilian morale, so if you can bust in loud and fast, they surrender a little more easily as opposed to them hearing your lockpicking sounds

[copper cypress]

Wait…Can the suspect hear us trying to pick the lock?

I always felt that breaking down doors made the game harder, and sneaking in quietly with a taser would not add as much stress to nearby suspects lol

[copper silo]

add lockpick minigame

[narrow geode]

They cant hear lock pick gun

They can hear the regular one

[stable kernel]

Lockpick is silent, as is peeking doors (not opening). You fast walking is not though, which is likely the cause of them "hearing"

Crouch walking I think is silent, not 100% on that though

[frail pier]

Giant ass eared suspects hear me brisk walking..... smh

[stable kernel]

Only from a certain distance, somewhere less than 10 feet I would say but I don't have a number

[copper cypress]

So running will make the suspect who was originally standing in one place start to move around?

[stable kernel]

If I had access to the source code to answer that I would have tried to made a mod to fix stupid suspects already

Suspects do what they want whenever they want

[narrow geode]

I mean
They walk around even if they havent heard anything yet

[copper cypress]

Lmao

[frail pier]

When update

[narrow geode]

When console

[frail pier]

This summer

[narrow geode]

Woa
When winter camo

[frail pier]

When RoN runs out of money

18,000 Void Bucks

[covert aurora]

My void bucks!

[frail pier]

No it's for the skin

That's like $29.99 USD

[covert aurora]

Thats the whole winter camo set even cones with winter camo for weapons. The based winter camo is only 1000

[frail pier]

I heard you'll get anime skins too

[covert aurora]

Yeah 5000 for uniforms and 30000 for full sets

[frail pier]

RoN will now be able to buy better peer to peer hosting

[covert aurora]

1,000,000,000 void bucks

[jolly tiger]

guys ive never installed any mod maps what are some good ones that currently work from nexus mods?

[sudden wolf]

I think standard Ron AI is like 2000cm slow walk detection, 2500cm fast walk, there's a lot of good info in the aileveldata.ini file

[sudden wolf]

Apartment of horrors is really short map, superlab siege, maple valley high school, D0SH for practice, park bluff sniper is fast, SW4T or not map collection is good, homeland is good, those are the better ones I've tried on the latest RoN update

[sudden wolf]

Yeah the alert range is between 3000 and 5000cm depending on suspect, sight, sound, and actions all alert differently, a suppressed gun shot is heard 13 meters around the area, and will alert anyone in the range, high morale suspects tend to stay alerted for no reason

[wraith basin]

Snoop Dogg skin will cost one voidtrillion Voidbucks

[vague locust]

when the ugly stab vest stores more utility than going vestless, rip

[nimble patio]

i wanted that body pillow

[prime wing]

you could get it

technically, as long as it the interest check is good enough

[valid wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-every-gun-we-have-to-fire-on-that-man-i-want-every-gun-we-have-kylo-ren-fire-on-that-man-gif-23064038

embed fail womp womp

[scarlet flax]

Lads I’m going to do a 5 man full lobby marathon of RoN on Friday. Going to be trying only shotguns, tools, equipment.

[brazen stump]

There’s probably a site that does custom body pillows where all u have to do is provide the image u want

[scarlet flax]

Any tips for us? I foresee it going pretty bad lol

[brazen stump]

Dont take bullets to the mouth

[waxen echo]

there a goddamn bomb vest on one of the guards in Valley of the doll

chat is this a bug

[stable kernel]

Mod

[scarlet flax]

I suspect we’ll have a very difficult time getting objective arrests. People will see bad guy and insta kill George Brixley and we’ll have to keep redoing levels lol

Also I’m interested to see how many friendly fire incidents we have. I can totally see someone turning a corner and insta killing a teammate with shotgun.

[scarlet flax]

It’s true you must have some kind of mod enabled.

[waxen echo]

oh yeah!!!!!!!!! I just downloaded the terrorist hunt mod last night

I forgor

[sonic harbor]

installing mods remove achivments?

[quasi latch]

nope

all mods do is when installed it gives you the "unoffical score" when you complete a mission, doesnt disable achievements

[onyx pine]

are there balaclavas in the base game

[vague locust]

yeah but its tied to a specific character youre using in customization, scroll to the very bottom three

[onyx pine]

how do i get to those

[narrow geode]

Only in multiplayer

[fringe plover]

When were we suppose to get that free content update ?

[narrow geode]

#👮ron-discussion message

[unborn pelican]

It's actually tomorrow

At 3 pm cet

[sonic harbor]

ok

[quick verge]

Is it just me or the Micro T2 is smaller than before

It feels different for some reason

[twilit vault]

After bugfix? ,I can no longer use the dedicated GPU direct connection mode to play games. Every time I enter a map, the game gets stuck on the loading percentage screen and then crashes. Switching to dual GPU mode results in significantly lower frame rates than before. Does anyone know what might be causing this?

[cloud ferry]

I have a question, are the non lethal weapons affected by the equipement of the different supects ?

Exemple : R7 vs Gas mask or Bean bag vs Heavy armor

[jolly verge]

Nope

The only suspect in game with gas mask only on one map and it's does not protect from pepperballs, just form pepper/cs gas cloud

[cloud ferry]

Okay interesting, thank you 👌

[copper cypress]

Can the suspects know that their companions have been killed through walls or doors within 5-10 meters?

[jolly verge]

Yes, every suspect on map will gain stress

[copper cypress]

Do they have a way of knowing through a wall or door that their companions are kneeling on the ground in surrender?

[jolly verge]

Nope, suspect can surrender behind his friend and he wont even notice it

As example 0:42 on this vid #🎬ron-clips-and-media message

[copper cypress]

Oh~ got it.

[copper cypress]

Do you guys think the lines at the beginning of the second level and Neon Tomb TOC need to be modified?

It says there is an active shooter, but the ROE is not as relaxed as the elephant level...

[quasi blade]

Or the ROE should probably be modified

[copper cypress]

I used to be able to pepper spray a suspect who was faking death, but now that would be a violation of Roe :((

If the suspect hesitates ->raises the gun -> put gun down(No surrender), would it be a violation of ROE if I kill him?

Like raising the gun in front of the player and then suddenly low ready/hesitating

[shell plover]

why me and my friend either he cant join my lobby saying lost connection to host or mid game he gets kicked out and says lost connection to host? we have the same mods installed

[quasi blade]

Unreal engine issue

[jade canopy]

?ROE is the same everywhere

[potent kettle]

RON has been taken down from steam Australia?

[vague locust]

yes

[humble mauve]

Void is aware and will say more when they can

[potent kettle]

ok

[tulip valve]

Will the M320 gas count getting civvies in the flash radius as unauthorized force if they're getting held hostage?

*M320 flash

[tulip valve]

Im taser and M320 Flash only'ing Sins of the Father for the S

this mission's driving me insane

How the hell was Elephant easier than this

AND OF COURSE I GET A GLITCHED SUSPECT WHO REFUSES TO GET DOWN

OH MY GOD HE FINALLY SUBMITTED

Bring order to chaos

I never though i'd see those words on this mission

[scarlet flax]

That’s crazy.

[jaunty plover]

i'm still very hopeful they fix the bug where suspects surrender but can't be arrested, because i've S ranked 3 letter triad 3 times and gotten that bug every time, making it impossible to actually S rank

[scarlet flax]

Sins of the Father is one of the easier levels imo. I haven’t done S yet but I can true solo that level and get an A.

[scarlet flax]

I think I’ve seen this but it’s kinda rare I feel like.

[jaunty plover]

yeah i've only ever seen it on 3 letter triad, which is IMO a pretty hard level to S rank so its pretty frustrating

nothing like finally having a successful attempt, only for the last fucking guy to be bugged

3 times

[lilac plaza]

anyone got tips for neon tomb? finna be my first time doing it and im nervous about those bombers

first impression would be gassing/flashing every room as i go and wedge

[feral hare]

Is there anyone who needs people to play with? It's just me and my friend and most of these maps are way better with more than 2 people, if ur able to play everyday or sometimes js add me and text me pls

[bold sky]

neon tomb only real hard mode is if you go into the middle of the dance floor or constantly try to do balcony fights on the second floor; if you avoid doing those then the rest is just knowing the map, then it becomes a fairly easy map bc the angles are generally easy, and bc its mostly cqb you can hear footsteps a lot

just yell frequently to check if the footstep is civi or not and have subtitles turn on to randomly spot bomb vest man talking to himself

[rose bison]

i'd recommend asking in #🔎looking-for-players

[vague locust]

can you restart a map on ironman mode? seems insane to S rank everything in a single try when you risk dealing with bugs and glitched guns

you can still get AI that toss guns underneath the cars on hide n seek, so im careful when doing that to guys on the left of the main warehouse

[feral hare]

I was skimming and couldn't find it thanks lol

[copper dirge]

Y’all got any tips for S ranking the bigger missions?

[dusk mauve]

What mode? solo? commander? multiplayer? In general, just stick together and go slowly. Leverage angles and take advantage of cover, be wary that suspects will often shoot you through concealment. Use a SR-16 or MCX, something high velocity and low recoil.

[onyx pine]

the bots do not defend me at all

[dusk mauve]

And the no mercy mod, otherwise pepperball and beanbag everyone

[onyx pine]

i was mirroring and a guy sneaking up all the way to the side of the building and was shooting at me and bots did nothing

[dusk mauve]

were they upset at u

[copper dirge]

Alr thanks. I usually bring a lot of flashes and the beanbag shotgun aswell. I think I just need to use my cover more.

On the bigger levels I get worn down and all my equipment is used up like halfway through.

[jaunty plover]

You can alt f4 out whenever if you're up for that cheese, it's how I did Ironman shrug

[quick verge]

Why is twisted nerve OST so hard bro😭

[scarlet flax]

Twisted Nerve has music?

[vague locust]

sounds good, thanks

[quick verge]

combat music

can i send links here?

[vague locust]

think the watch requires S ranking so i dont feel like getting screwed by buggy rng, cheesing that shit is fair

[dusk mauve]

don't cheese it, just take point so ur teammates don't do anything they haven't been trained to do

[quick verge]

whole game's ost is on spotify too

[scarlet flax]

Def stick together. Only mutli entry/pinch when the rooms prior have been cleared. Couple pepper with beans. They go good together.

[vague locust]

nah, its the buggy part that ticks me off. a gun that teleports into unreachable place or launched out of bounds, a civvie that gets stuck in the exiting bed animation on ides of march

its one thing to S rank by itself through a few tries since you can always restart, but on ironman mode? thats way too much salt

[quick verge]

oh my god

i swear my mag was full

[jaunty plover]

is there anything that requires S on all maps on ironman? i thought the cheevo for ironman was just complete the game without losing any officers

[quick verge]

Dev watch as far as i know

[vague locust]

oh thank god, im stupid, dev watch is only ironman mode only without officer deaths

wouldve hurt my soul to actually try that, so you can just solo clear by murdering everything

[jaunty plover]

well your guys will quit if they get too stressed

which fucks the 'lose no officers' part afaik

so you still have to be mindful of getting some arrests

[quick verge]

beanbag here beanbag there and no more mental health issues

[hybrid basin]

I just make my dudes gas and clear rooms and stuff, I never take point on doorkicking

[vague locust]

rough but should be fine, flash spam deals with most of them

[hybrid basin]

even on S-rank runs, the team is always clearing ahead of me so I'm usually straggling in the back cleaning up the aftermath, usually works for me

[jaunty plover]

i thought it was sorta funny that when you solo in commander mode and kill everyone it stresses your guys out, like "hey the boss killed 30 people today, i don't want to work here anymore"

[hybrid basin]

although on bigger maps like Greased and Hide/Seek you might have to take point a little in some sections but they manage well when you keep herding them through the sections

[quick verge]

tell the ai to stay in the spawn point

worked for me in 4u

[hybrid basin]

I don't play solo style runs, I like running in a team

so I take advantage of that and issue commands and herd them through the rooms acting as a meat shield for me of sorts lol

a little cheesy but it works

[quick verge]

are you equipping them with beanbag and stuff like that?

[hybrid basin]

yup

[quick verge]

i forgot to do that lol

thats why i sent them all the way back

[hybrid basin]

2 have SMG pepperballs, 1 has the AR Pepperball, and 1 has beanbag shotgun

gas and bang, they give up pretty quickly

[quick verge]

DLCs worth it?

[hybrid basin]

love it

[jaunty plover]

what do people feel are the advantages of the SMG style pepperball launcher? i always felt like the smaller mag was just too much of a hindrance

[jaunty plover]

i think all the DLC maps are fantastic

[quick verge]

Want to 100% the game on steam but some achievements are behind the dlc paywall

[hybrid basin]

smaller profile

[jaunty plover]

do you feel you notice that benefiting your team when you give it to the AI?

[hybrid basin]

Honestly, I dunno. I just like seeing variety in my team

[quick verge]

Im loving this gunfighter mod

[hybrid basin]

but for me, I prefer the smg version on smaller cqb maps

[jaunty plover]

i feel ya, i find myself wanting a reason to use it because its cool and IRL yeah the smaller profile would probably be a lot easier to use in CQB

[hybrid basin]

like dorms or twisted nerve

but lol, one of my AI regularly runs a shotgun build when I'm running lethal runs. His kills are usually almost always comical cuz it's always a rushing dude that gets the full blast from the shotgun

like run around the corner and bam, ragdolled already

[quick verge]

I hate relapse for gods sake i just want to get past this one

[jaunty plover]

lol relapse is my favorite map

very challenging

[hybrid basin]

ugh mood, that one was brutal, but try gassing the rooms before you roll in

I found that helped me a lot, I just got E for Effort cuz two of the terrorists managed to pop their hostages

bro was behind a glass wall and I just couldn't shoot him in time lol

[quick verge]

If it isnt a c4 exploding in my face im getting my body looking like a swiss cheese

[jaunty plover]

last time i ran relapse my team and i hit the room with the guy you're supposed to arrest and the AI just fucking blasted through his human shield, it was brutal lmao

[hybrid basin]

Honestly I think the map I hate the most is mostly Hide and Seek

that fucking warehouse screws with me

[jaunty plover]

yeah i feel like the AI really struggle with that area

[hybrid basin]

Greased Palms is a close 2nd, I sorta kinda like it but I don't like taking it on for S-rank

[jaunty plover]

lots of times we're getting shot and they just don't react because there's a shelf

[hybrid basin]

Yeah, and it's really dim.. the NVGs barely help either

[quick verge]

havent gotten to h&s yet

[hybrid basin]

it'll be the next one after Relapsed

[quick verge]

i only know about that marked container

[hybrid basin]

you're close to the end

[quick verge]

seen it on tik otk

[jaunty plover]

oh i was thinking of the post office level whoops, but yeah that warehouse is rough

[quick verge]

ai did almost everything for me in greased palms lol

[hybrid basin]

yeah greased palms isn't too bad at least in comparison, the AI pathing is weird on that one but it's.. not too bad

[jaunty plover]

it's the level i have the most issues with my team just not reacting to enemy fire

[hybrid basin]

it only sucks cuz S ranking it is equivalent to punching my balls

[quick verge]

i had all my body in red

[jaunty plover]

lol yes that sucked

[quick verge]

i was

EXTREMELY close to shooting the fisa guy

[hybrid basin]

I need to figure out how to S rank elephant lol

that one is going to be such a ballache

[jaunty plover]

i had to do that one a few times, i think they made it so the guys will taunt / yell at civvies for a bit before they shoot them and i just fucking sprinted around trying to listen for that

but it feels very reliant on luck

[hybrid basin]

yeah it's the 2 minute timer on top of the 4 suspects and the rng bomb locations

[quick verge]

i cant even E rank that level bru

[hybrid basin]

I managed to get D on my last Elephant run

[quick verge]

i got like 30 civilians executed

[hybrid basin]

the other reason why it's so hard is cuz it literally takes everything the game has drilled in you so far and just... yeets it out the window

[quick verge]

i love how toc says "You have completed your objectives to the bare minimum today" when you perform like shit on a level

[hybrid basin]

cuz you are forced to run everywhere and forego usual safe movement

[quick verge]

something like that i cant remember

[hybrid basin]

Yeah lol, they just indirectly tell you that you fucking sucked

[quick verge]

i've heard those lines more that i'd like to admit

[hybrid basin]

it's ok lol, you're really not fighting the clock in any maps or for ranking really

so no shame in taking things SUPER slow

except for 2, but still

[quick verge]

Oh my god i had to contain myself in valley of the dolls

due to my squad being at stressed level

[hybrid basin]

yeahhhh lol, I'm not looking forward to that sequence when I do my Iron Man run eventually

[quick verge]

"But your honour, i swear the gun discharged on its own"

[hybrid basin]

GP-VOTD-Elephant-Rust Belt is BRUTAL on my dudes

[quick verge]

im thirsty as hell

[muted bane]

Anyone else have a run in with this cmdr lumpy guy?

Dude was asking everyone who joined his server who they voted for and shit it was wild

[quick verge]

idk i play singleplayer

[onyx pine]

i found a firing squad room downstairs near the killhouse

in the police station

[quick verge]

officer martinez pls front desk

[scarlet flax]

Man has been missing since day one lol

[chrome tartan]

my game is super slow every time I come out of a loading screen eg; from the main menu I'll load into multiplayer headquarters and as soon as I spawn the game essentially freezes for like 5 - 10 seconds and then its fine, same when I load into a level or really anything else. anyone know a fix?

[mighty grail]

Hello chat, am new.

Trying to get an idea to see if this is fake or nah.

Is Ready or not banned in Australia? (I am going to be sad)

[chrome tartan]

looks like it, I can see the bundles and the dlc's but not the base game on steam

[stable kernel]

#💬general-discussion message

[chrome tartan]

got any idea about this #👮ron-discussion message
thanks

[mighty grail]

I thought this was related but ig not

[tawny panther]

why is gerard scott naked

[covert aurora]

because he's crazy like that

[wet bronze]

download game onto your ssd like i told you before, hdd isnt fast enough

[chrome tartan]

yeah. I've got it on my ssd now. but the new problem is happening now that iv'e switched it didnt happen on the hdd

[wet bronze]

how much ram do you have again

[chrome tartan]

32

[wet bronze]

id mess with your in game settings a bit since youre only running a 1080, try medium settings and 100% resolution

are you running a 1080p monitor?

[chrome tartan]

yeah, thanks dude

[nimble ore]

I’ve REALLY wanted the main menu background without GUI so I can use it as a live wallpaper, is there any way to do this or will I have to make a suggestion?

[odd mesa]

You could edit the gui out

[wet bronze]

have you checked wallpaper engine? ive found some pretty specific and niche things on there and its pretty possible someone has already made it

[copper cypress]

If we equip SWAT Ai with Kevlar, will they be more flexible?

[narrow geode]

Kevlar plate is useless

Give them ceramic

Its the best plate

[hollow cedar]

I get its trying to be realistic but imo scopes really need a buff

they are ridiculously hard to use

[tacit gull]

Scopes are absolutely not realistic

Scopes not having variable zoom, having insane amounts of fisheye-ing and being placed in small maps which act weird with the lighting in scope makes them kinda useless

Something that might make more sense in the larger maps are magnifiers

[amber dock]

@tacit gull

[tacit gull]

bro had to give the ping too

[amber dock]

Yes

Deal with it.

[tacit gull]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/912426228168945704/1025378813481324626/attachment.gif

[amber dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194212393895604295/1309294997551448084/caption.gif

[wraith basin]

Honestly just feels like there are no maps that REALLY need scopes in the first place. I am not sure if there even are situations, where engagements could be 100 meters or over that with current maps and even then, having scopes for those arent that necessary.

But thats just me giving my two cents on this. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[muted star]

also PiP scopes are WACK

[tacit gull]

i remember when they dropped the frames down to 10 fps every time you aimed

[muted star]

Yee

Still loosing fps for a zoom is a bad idea

[tacit gull]

i think insurgency did them pretty well on UE

(not when it came out though that game somehow ran worse than ron on release)

[wraith basin]

Not at launch, tho

[tacit gull]

^

insurgency at launch was borderline unplayable LMAO

[muted star]

Haven't played much with pip in insurgancy

I like the 2d scopes

[wraith basin]

I remember using scopes at launch and all I saw was lowpolygons

[tacit gull]

reforger does PIP really well right now

[muted star]

Nahh, don't like them too

[tacit gull]

but ins had a ton of cool shit like NVG scopes while also being PIP

they added magnifiers aswell as 2-step scopes

[muted star]

ye, tho I hate how slow they change the sights

[tacit gull]

it took ground branch like 6 more years to add animations to changing optics

[muted star]

bruh

it will take another 6 to be a finished game

[wraith basin]

Ground Branch has been in progress for like so many years now or something. Sure the customization is cool and all, but it sure doesnt give anything else worth...

[tacit gull]

to "come out" (it will have a barely functional mission mode then development will stop)

[wraith basin]

Also cant wait for Space Engineers 2 going for another 13 years of early access.

[muted star]

indie gaming at it's finest