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Isn't that beautiful?
Actually I was aiming for scores during 0.9.0
Shield and taser
Gas and flash
Beanbag is my friend, but B fuctions better.
Sorry for talking too much.
But this game worths more.
That's what full auto is for
What's up with the room with the old computers and tape machines you can see through a crack in the wall in the interview room area?
I'm convinced it's just a reference to the alpha build main menu but other people seem to think otherwise.
Do flashlights affect morale and does it give away your position, could it lead to prefiring?
Doubt it and I do not believe so
I believe the AI do have triggers for flashlights, at least audio, but I do not believe that would lead to them prefiring you specifically.
Any ideas for ways to have fun with the game now that I've S-ranked everything? I really like the gameplay but I don't feel like buying the DLC right now.
if your looking for fun play greasy nuts
Is it just me or are shotguns basically less-lethal in this game? Multiple times now I have blasted a suspect in the chest with the Nova just for them to throw their gun and get on their knees.
That only works if they have armor, and even then you may blow off a limb
There is always the modding side of the game once you finish official content
aw I remember hearing a random group i was in talk about it affecting morale, that was a WHILE ago tho
what does unofficial score mean, I cant unlock certain achievements/cosmetics?
Nothing, mods dont affect achievements/cosmetics unlocking
basically so you can't S-rank something, take a screenshot, and try to claim you S-ranked greased with only a taser
oh good! i do not want to replay some missions 😭
Sometimes AI are doing so great makes me like playing CSGO
AI will find the flashlight and aim at that direction
That doesn't happen on every mission
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I have one question.
I need NVG to see clearly at night. They don't have it. However they can notice me from a long distance and shoot me.
Man I become the santa claus, all red on me
how should i load out my ai teammates?
?
Depends on the mission
If you want to change their loadout depending on the mission
of course i should modify their loadouts per-mission but i want to know what their core should be
i.e long tacticals and tactical equipment
and armor
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You can check armor levels of suspects from different missions
Depending on that you can change their weapon and ammo type
For suspects with high level armor ARs with AP ammo would be better for example
And for armor
Whether you're gonna use light or heavy armor always give them ceramic plates
As it protects the most and does not deal shrapnel damage
this is 100% useful and i will be taking a look at that spreadsheet but i was more asking what roles i should give the AI teammates
right now im running both blue and red with one breaching shotgun and one riot shield each
and heavy ceramic armor for all
Ready or Not
Shotgun
Shotgun
Shotgun
Shotgun
When did your name turn green
a while 
bro became a discord mod to post this 
worth
Akshuallyyyyyyyyyy
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Oh sorry this is the Ron library
Got the DLC. Finished all the achievements and levels.
Gotta say. Narcos. S tier through and through. Narratively. Gameplay wise. Pacing. On point.
Once you get a proper flow and have the advantegous positioning. It's stupid rewarding while never leaving you overtly exposed or vulnerable. The difference is map knowledge and situational awareness. Congrats to void on this one. It's amazing.
Question, what type of funding would these officers be getting? And would it have increased at all since the start?
they get paid in ammo
Their holiday bonus is a therapy session
Hahaha 😂
I ask cause I am looking at redoing my gear and if I should include certain items or not (like nvgs etc)
ready
how is that related though?
Well, if they have good funding they can afford the good gear, and if not, they may go without some stuff
It's a video game mkay
NVGs from Temu
Hahaha
i'm not
i am sorry to hear that but when u get called u have to go whether ur ready or not
Idk
But in my country
If you're a Non-commissioned officer
You would make around 250 ~ 16×× usd per month depending on your rank
If you are a Commissioned Officer
You would make around 370 ~ 23×× usd per month depending on your rank
i think in game gun
Which one?
The SA 58
Thank you dude
SA58 0SW
Thank both of you
🙏
I think if in real world this gun might be FN FAL?
But I'm not sure which variant. I'm not an expert in firearms
Just played the 3 letter triad from darkwaters. My new favorite mission 🙂
||This one room with like 20 suspects freaked me out, but I always wanted a bit more action in RoN.||
I like the way, that on the darkwater maps there are many interactable things, this rounds up the game perfectly.
||Can someone tell me what that one device was I found? It looked like a bomb and I could extend or bring it down. when extanded it was in "critical mode" or something? But I couldn't figgure out much about it.||
||I always assumed it's a bioweapon of sorts||
||But there isn't more about it right? So no way to activate it or something?||
nah
basically just a model
Okay, thank you. Was just confused because it wasn't even considered a soft goal
no problem
It would be the SA58. The SA58 is just a modernized short barrel FAL.
It’s just a variant of the fal
What
i am not being serious here i would love to see shorts in the game but it doesnt realy matter
I was throwing flashbang to confuse the suspect... 4 of them hit the doorframe 💔
how many did u have
14
wtf
mod
30 JHP primaryy 30 JHP secondary many flashbangs and I forogr
thats a nit ridiculous dont u think
Eh
Bearly use 5 but if I'm in the mood for full auto
3 primary mags and 10 flashbangs is the way
Yeah, 3 mags is plenty for that. The flashbangs are just so you don't get shot
As easily
Exactly
Even if you throw your gun
"HE HAS A BACKUP"
i take 6 mags for primary and 2 or 3 for secondary depends if i have a shield and 4 or 3 gas if i have a shield its 3 and 1 lockpicking gun
and for people who run into rooms with not a care in the world (me)
Can someone give me a link to a youtube video with achievement - of sleeper agent “as intended”? And what is intended?
?
he wants a video of someone doing the achievement sleeper agent as it was developed to be done
Yup, in fact I couldn’t find it
weird youd think someone has done it
They have just not made it public
I got one video from a fellow member that showed me how to do it
I mean, demilitarizing the whole map is more than doable i can see it after a few tries, but it feels so silly
I tried it once DLC came out for like 1 hour and 30 minutes with 2 buddies and we counted and everything but we didn't get it. Once I used a mod I got it first try
Any suspect increaser mod should work
What is the normal high score on 23 Megabytes if you shoot the bad guys but get EVERY objective + all suspects and all guns etc
I only got a B but i did everything
Are you trying to get an S
With lethal max should be around B to A assuming you shot everyone and got 5 points. If you arrested id say 20% of the suspects alive you would get A+
How to get S++++++++ rank in ready ron or not
photoshop

Cool how you running Valley with the AI or Multiplayer?
Interesting
why is valley of the dolls s rank impossible
There is also a 'special allowance' too like, living expenses, medical coverage for you or family members etc. And yes, the amount is depending on your rank
BAH Mfs raise up
Have you tried using heavy armor for your squad and using flash abng to clear the room before entering?
no i have not
what type of armor?
like kevlar steel or ceramic
Try it, life will be easier, just give your team a command open + clear with flashbang
And using only non-lethal weapon like that pepper rifle/small and beanbag shotgun
aren't pepperguns unreliable
Imo
Kevlar is light, but less protective
Steel give you decent protective but a spall may damage your torso
Ceramic is kinda great I think? It will protect you till it break
Try 2-3shot at their face or chest area
But i think beanbag shotgun gun is more reliable
BTW having teammates with 'negotiator' skill can be useful, when you and your team yelling for compliance there a high chance they will surrender immediately, so I suggest take 2 negotiator with you
where are skills?
If you played in commander mode you can recruit member with skill
Checking by holding Tab but if you played in quick play this feature will not be available
ok
also you will have to play a few missions with them before the skill becomes unlocked
What are some fun weapons to mess with now that I've S-ranked everything?
I've mainly used the 416 and Nova so far
I can't remember the name, but the rifle that look like M1
M14
Ceramic is the best plate
.357 and 57 are basically the only pistols you need
If you want to struggle
Beretta is what i always bring
P90 full auto is pure bliss
dat aint a pistol dummy
509 is one of the better pistols in my opinion 17 rounds of 9m is nice
smgs are super fun
Mp5 is enjoyable to use. Not very effective, but yes fun
I like using it in semi auto bc there's no recoil at all
whats the chance this game goes half-off anytime soon
wanna buy a copy for my buddy
next week
will be like 40% off or more
thursday
sweet
But general rule of thumb is that ron goes on sale every major holiday
yep spring holiday next week
13 of march sale, hypedddddddd
I got spring break this week and now its friday😭
i'm not even gonna ask why you have summer break now
Spring...mb am...kinda slow mind
Thank fuck
no S is for LARPers A+ is the best score for me
frfr on god no cap
is it just me or are the traps on ides of march sometimes are invisible or bugged, literally just closed and opened an already opened door and then a bomb trap out of nowhere, like the npc opened the door nothin happened, but when i close and re open them the trap that wasnt even visible blew up.
Are there more new DLCs planned in the future?
YA!
iirc suspects and civs can't set off the traps even when they open the doors, only the player and SWAT can set off traps.
Sorry if this is a frequently asked question but is the Way Out West achievemnet bugged or am I just doing something wrong?
dayumnnn thxxx just lost ironman mode run twice couse of it lol
Do you have a laser attachment on the magnum?
I've definitely had suspects set off their own traps
No, not attachments on the gun, Also tooks nvgs off just in case that mattered
No ammo primary and you got a c plus on mission complete?
Shield Nvgs all fine as long as you dont use em i think you do have to have a passable grade on completion though
Using lockpick, shield in your or bots hands, not getting at least C grade
Might be the grade? Cant remember what I got. Ive tried on single player and just telling bots to hold at the start and also in a solo friends only session and its never popped for me. And yeah no ammo primary and i bring mirrorgun but never even pull it out
You can use swat ai, give them any gun and let them kill suspects, just make sure you shoot at least once from magnum, even if it's empty
Ill give it a try later, thank you for the advice
Question: How is killing a criminal actively threatening to kill a hostage an unauthorized use of force?
If I didn't fire then he would've either killed the hostage or fired at us
U accidently touched the civilian
he was still very much alive by the end of it though
Thats why its not unauthorized use of lethal force
That the civ was alive at the end?
You got -50 for injuring and -100 if its dead
Mhm
-100
hey fellas quick question i havent played ron in a WHILE, just booting it up td
where did elephant, valley of the dolls, and relapse go? i'm playing on quick play and i dont see these maps anywhere even tho i used to be able to access them and got S on (i believe) all of them
do i needa go through commander mode to unlock it or smth or how does that work? also i only have up to the post office map on quick play not sure how to get others thx
Quick play is progression based like commander mode just complete the latest mission to unlock the next.
gotcha thank you
Is it just me getting worse at the game or are the new DLC missions way more difficult to S-rank than the rest?
how do i get more fps?
lower settings or buy better equipment for ur setup
more specific here, its not like money grows on tree's
ok but then lower ur graphics if u want more frames i play on a laptop so i know money is tight fro a lot of ppl i just gave the 2 options that u can do
if u go in to advanced settings u will see each option tells u what they do so some settings will increase frames and others other things so go and look there
Sup everyone, genuinely need help, Valley of the Dolls is infuriating, is there any loadout reccomendation for the "gung ho" Scenario like that for single-player with AI? S rank not necessary
I'm guessing it'll get worse from the tbh
*there
jhp mp7 is prolly op there bc its jhp goes thru their armor and still does enough damage to 2 shot up close
else just any rifle you like w jhp will pen their armor
762 one shot there too so can run g3 if you like
i like the sa58 on that map, pretty consistently downs in 1-2 body shots at any range and is still short enough to be cqb viable
also try to avoid the one way sightlines created by the glass windows on the opposite end of the building, clearing the ground floor then moving outside generally works better for me trying to blitz it
That glass window? Absolute Pain to tell ai to get out from there XD.
So the whole approach is to go inside with main door or back door first?
personally go through main door then work your way down to the ground floor
what pistol is the best (damage dealing and firerate)
where can i find players for pvp
?
Bro unlocked the super secret PVP game mode on RoN
Playing with randoms is the pvp mode
i alwys pvp my friends befor rstarting if we fuck up an objective
damage dealing it'd be the .357 magnum pretty sure, no clue about fire rate tho
Yall have any tips on S ranking Relapse?
Lotta stingers/flashbangs, take a mirrorgun or breach shotgun, are you doing it with ai or solo?
i would have suggested gas grenades and gas launcher since they are powerful
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gas gas gas
In the words of the frog man, f a r t m a x x i n g
Gas is the best tool for S Ranking. CS Canister, Pepperspray, Pepperballs, CS Launcher
how to do the school shooting elephant map? its so damn big and i cant find the bomb in time
there are like 3 or 4 places one in cafeteria one by stairs and one in a classroom i think
what are some fun things to do with my friends after beating all the missions?
doing it with a pistol
It's not hard, just get a clearing route and stay away from the windows and the atrium.
Alr
Any good loadout ideas?
Something in 7.62 so you can 1-2 shot everyone. Bring gas.
Ah
You could literally clear it with a pistol if you're decent.
Five seven or .357 magnum
Anything works, but for the pool area it will be slightly ranged.
Should I take a shield or an m320 thing
Just get flashbangs for large areas, some C2s. And get the half the AI with riot shields if needed.
Will do, tbh I never even used c2 before. What are they useful for?
Why open a door when you can blow it up and stun the enemies behind it?
Fair enough
It’s great if someone is waiting right by the door. Boom and they’re down.
That's basically a requirement in any mission
Unless you're up for a little extra fun.
Just gambling with doors?
Keeps you from walking into an ambush.
If I see someone waiting on the other side of the door I’ll shoot through the door at them.
Nah just opening a door and having the thrill of not knowing what's in the room.
Real
I keep forgetting that I can wallbang as well
I have a mod installed that gives me 125 slots for gear.
I’ll roll up with 20 mags of 7.62 ap and just mag dump the doors.
The gunfighter mod gives me extra slots, but I prefer trying to keep it only to what I need so that it's more challenging.
what are the requirements for the way out west achievement?
why cant you use lockpick?
I’ve noticed that I’m getting way higher fps in solo runs vs commander mode. Like 120+ fps vs 30-50fps.
I just did everything and got a B
still dont have the achievement
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Check this video
no....... dont.........
i heard the games going on sale the 13th is this factual
Depends on where you heard it 
I just noticed the drone on the rust belt map
is there a significance?
you can shoot it out of the sky, thats kinda cool ig
Hey, I’m a little new to RoN, any veteran tips anyone?!
use lots of flashbangs
also
move fast but not too fast if you get what im saying
Thanks 😂 and when someone is pointing a gun at me, do I give them a chance of Blast em’?
100%
blast em
No
Alright, because I was on the game earlier I give em a chance and they blew my head off lmao
ok I give up on getting the way out west achivement
When in doubt gas them out
Any idea if void would bring back og maps like the hotel or vineyard with a cave underground? The hotel map had a nice number of layers too, just wish i could play those maps again
Officially? Likely never, there are modded maps that bring them back and the creator of them wants to bring back all old maps back at some point
does anyone know if cosmetics acquired in single-player transfer to multiplayer?
Yes
they do?
yes
yes
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WHO EVEN USES NVG
I do : (
me
Also, anyone know how many bombs are on Relapse?
2
Oh, cool. Thanks
no problem
how common were MK18s in SWAT use in the 90s?
if at all
never mind
it didnt even exist yet lmao
всем хай где русские тут ?
thanks but a lil too late i already did 5 missions using 5 7
Hello everyone, where are the Russians?
Is there no Russian version of this server?
e it's like there's just xs how to find
what is xs?
Search Ready or Not Russia in the discord discovery tab
Thank you so much for responding so quickly.
Yeah, this is why I wish, we could have basic M4... :/
eh if you wanna go retro swat just use the MP5A2
But I'd like to have couple M4's there too!
true
imagine an M16
that might be a cool challenge
especially with a suppressor too
I'd love to do the 90's SWAT, but having no M4 saddens me.
Just died on Relapse clearing the last floor I needed to clear
I am very annoyed with myself
oof
doing the 90s challenge rn and uh
damn its harder than I expected, especially with kevlar armor
Ight so anyone who's datamined this game or whatever I got a question.
When did breach become lethal to the head? I swear I remember it being comically underpowered when shot at people.
I am very irritated about The Hanged Man achievement
I fulfilled all the criteria after several playthroughs and still did not get the achievement
Tried that. Didn't work
remove night vision goggles/anti-flash goggles/gas mask/face mask. Only thing you can have on your head is a helmet
Does that go for teammates as well?
may the force be with you
aye, it's a bugged achievement. I've had friends who got it playing coop with full gear, using any and all weapons
lol, lucky duck
and they say being lazy doesn't pay off
hear, hear
'cus f*ck logic that's why
that's why I always aim for the head - one bullet, one kill
I got the achievement at the cost of 3 officers
well done!
Thank you for the advice!
my pleasure
will bombs detonate if you interrupt the defusal?
No you just gotta start again
Like in Counter Strike
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Is there any reason aside from aesthetics to give my AI teammates lasers?
Do they make them more accurate?
Is it possible to unstuck the threatened suspect or civ that doesn’t want to move?
I wish I was better at this game tbh
I've definitely had some badass moments but overall my reaction time is a bit slow
It's always was lethal, they just increase base damage from 20 to 50
play with that in mind
clear angles bit by bit instead of one movement
walk + lean
sa58 or shotgun
or canted site with laser
Yeah it did fuck all for damage but when did they change it? Was it recently?
With Dark Waters release
Ahh that explains lol
It's actually a nerf

i installed some mods and i completed a mission but it didnt unlock the next level. is unlocking disabled with mods or something??
Nope
wth why didnt it unlock
The only way you wont unlock next mission is if you die
dont you have to pass it
also i just realised i did unlock it
it just didnt save from last time
Replay Mode? Good start but my advice is to get the Camera mod off of nexus mods, you can get better lighting for photos like my screenshots and zoom/blur and tons of stuff
copy, thx!

i get another tried if you wanna see
Just a heads up, it may seem complicateed at first but its easy to get a hang of.
Also sure
what do you think?
It does look good, but if i took that i'd be more focused on the agent, and with the camera mod turn on lumen(Realistic lighting) and zoom in, add blur and focusing and add a pointlight to him. Thats just for me, i focus more on the faces/body language
I could go on that map and take a photo like that if you can see how i'd do it
I understand, I just play on my laptop and I put the graphic settings on high just for some captures lol
yeah, thx!
Wait is there new music on Sins of the Father
really?
yes im hearing a deep string in the back other
well, nice photo holy, i can do something similar rn
Anyone know of any other good games with tactical fashion like RoN has? I love mixing up the camo patterns and seeing how they look with different vests / helmets etc. Ghost Recon Wildlands and Breakpoint are great for that, also Escape from Tarkov. GTA Online has some tactical options too. Any other good ones?
If you like the fashion and hate playing videogames you can try ground branch
lmao I never said I hated video games but yeah I’ve heard that’s got some good customization too. What, is the game itself bad or something?
Not only that, but it's also never going to get finished
Oh lord
anybody got any tips for the elephant mission?
shoot the bad guys
Make a clearing route.
Ground Branch is good yeah, Tarkov sadly isnt realistic
Don’t hesitate. I know most missions require you to take it slow but Elephant requires a very quick run. There’s four shooters. Once all of them are restrained or pacified, then look around for the bombs. They’re hard to miss because they all beep. There’s two bombs. Once that’s over, then you can clear everything up. Securing civilians, picking up weapons, all that stuff.
Is there any recomended set loadout?
Like Heavy Armor eith set amount of grenades, ammos?
Heavy armor is good since the shooters have fully auto weapons. Normally I’d recommend shotguns since it’s a close quarters area but the shooters are usually near civilians so you need very precise shots. I’d especially recommend an AR with a silencer so the other shooters don’t hear you.
Definitely ignore restraining civilians until all the shooters and bombs are taken care of, they’ll only distract you until then.
It’s the most intense mission in the game by far and took me the most number of tries to complete.
And of course the spawn points of the shooters and bombs are different each run so sometimes you just kinda have to hope luck is on your side and puts the shooters and bombs in convenient places.
No that's incorrect.
When you yell for compliance you make noise, so the suspects are already aware of your presence. Hence suppressors are useless in terms of stealth.
IIRC you only got 3 minutes until the shooters start inflating their KDs with Civilians
or am i wrong?
2 min + 10 - 20 seconds
I am literally him #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
That’s true too
I do still use them because it just feels right.
Makes the gun look nicer.
Suppressors are already useless because no suppressor except for specially made guns with subsonic ammo can achieve "quietness"
Dear god XD i'm screwed am i
which entrance is best on elephant?
Like i'm kind of Slow player and always chicken out of any seconds those MFer started shooting me from infuriating Angles XD
In the game it decreases detection range compared to an unsuppressed shot.
Broooo The Valley of the Dolls makes me a member of MLO XD
Even then i still got A somehow
i dont know if thats true but the detection range is still huge
like its pretty much cosmetic
Suppressors do not reduce hearing range
thats my understanding too
Just -50% stress gain from each shot
idk if the devs ever talked about that
Also integrated suppressors do nothing
Is the stress thing the one that makes the suspect trigger happy and harder to surrender?
☝️ 🤓
Yeah
Well how tf i manage the stress aspect whilst i inevitably makes noise on whole goddamn level lmao
Also daily reminder that the beanbag shotgun is pretty much an instant S rank for every level
Doesnt the stress thing have different outcomes depending on situation like surrender, self delete, running away, hostage taking etc.
I just tried to S Rank Greased Palms without AI, got it on the first try 
light vest, no cringe facemask
Damn that’s the post office one right? Impressive
yeah i got a clip in #🎬ron-clips-and-media so you can see from my command menu that its an MP lobby
Nice
Either way, if they do or do not.
Most actions are loud, so suppressors are irrelevant in terms of stealth.
It mostly depends on the suspect's archetype, but yeah, some actions like hostage taking based on stress iirc
But honestly it makes me groan XD. Like i understand it's less Lethal but cmon i have to use it for s rank runs XD
yeah different types of suspects are prone to different behaviour
Hardest level for S rank is probably Hide and Seek, those big wide open spaces in front of and inside the warehouse make using the shotgun very impractical.
Pepperballs are cringe
Pepperballs are the most op less lethal ammo in game 
Oh yeah, obviously using regular guns is much more fun and intense. I just recommend the non lethal ones if you really want that S rank for the unlocks

Fair
Daily reminder that two 7.62 Hollow Points to the chest does not kill an unarmored person #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
oh nvm it was AP
still funny
I remember when I first started playing and trying to shoot people in the foot thinking they’d immediately go down 
I shot a gas station suspect in the foot 6 times with a pistol and he did not surrender
Yeah they’re super persistent
i wish getting hit with a couple bullets would I DONT KNOW DECREASE THEIR FIGHTING SPIRIT!??!??! HELLO DEVS
Either that or it’d embolden them into feeling unstoppable. Or it’d let them know that they’re about to die which would only make them more aggressive.
ive never seen someone who isnt drugged out of their mind get "emboldened" by being shot 6 times 
doesnt the sa58 also instantly incapacitate?
Maybe it's the RoN experience?
iirc it usually does, that thing is a beast
7.62x51 oneshot only on maps with no extra health
Me gets shot by most painful thing imaginable six times, time to beast up
How tf you incap suspect tho?
wouldnt that make it better than the beanbag
Most of the time i shoot suspect they always went 6-ft deep
Yeah but S rank requires zero wounded suspects
I thought it's explicitly no dead suspect?
I’m not sure if you’re even allowed to incapacitate them
you cannot inflict any permanent harm on them
every suspect has to be kneeling on the ground
Is this game gonna come to ps5?
Lmao
if they lie on the ground after arrest its not S rank
S require 100% score and kill/incaps gives only 5 score instead of 35
where can you find all the requirements for S?
I doubt it, even if it does the experience would probably be downgraded, like Payday 2
Well unlike PD2 it's not Live service
its really not hard - Arrest everyone unharmed (only use nonlethal), get all side objectives, all guns, secure every suspect and every civilian
Yet the process to tweak the aim assist will be pain
From what I remember it’s just no wounded / dead suspects, obviously no wounded / dead civilians, no dead officers, picking up all the evidence etc
I don’t believe your completion time or how many times you get shot matters
if u aim the beanbag shotgun a little too high can it still kill them?
ofcourse
Thank god most of the game time completion isn't matter
no headshots with beanbag
Yeah Relapse in particular is a goddamn marathon
ture that map is soo big
Took me so many tries to even get a B on that map just so I could unlock the shirt and vest
commander mode is such pain
Because I’m a total diva who cares about unlocking all the customization options
I hate big maps not because it's hard, but because it's huge AF that finding suspect/evidence/civilian at end game is Pain AF
I remember wasting 15-min for goddamn Soft Objective at twisted nerve
why not arrest everyone where you first see them before going further?
and take their guns
Of course it’s also worth noting that real police aren’t supposed to be executioners and even in intense scenarios they try to wound suspects at most
Well I did, usually I have to stop for a while just to detain those, as i said it's the goddamn last one i don't even think abiut
Especially When suspect still alive, until BOtC completed, stress is always real even to the last man XD
If you’re playing with AI teammates you can use the search and secure command
thats not true, if a suspect shoots, they shoot until he is on the ground AT MINIMUM
Yeah that’s more of what I meant by wounding
I don't think you can Search & Secure until you complete the BOtC
Yes, it's makes zero noise, so you can actually stealth with it without getting anyone alerted
And ofc I ain't sending lone guy wandering around when i know there's one goddamn suspect remain
Atleast have a mechanic hat after set amount of suspect remaining just show them either exact or aggregate position
Having my game slow down fron completion to a crawl just to find last dumbass is ain't fun imo.
its also impossible to shoot to "wound"
Legs - Femoral Artery
Feet - lots of small blood vessels
Chest - organs
Shoulder - Axillary artery
Arms - brachial artery
All of which can lead to very fast deaths
Gotta love all the civilians who refuse to get on the ground even with a loaded rifle pointed at their face
Place is getting attacked by 20 terrorists, I go in and order a civilian to get on the ground for their own safety
Civilian: “No way, dickhead! What are you gonna do, shoot me?” pulls out their phone and starts recording
Just bash or taser em
Am I allowed to name a specific example from real life?
Yeah i don't like the "detain HVT Alive". Most of the time they boast about how they would rather eat bullets than peaceful way
doesnt change what i said tho - its just single cases
You can incap HVT targets
How tho?
I mean… in that case wouldn’t it be better to take them alive so you don’t honor their wish
Well duh ain't that kill them? Just lost totally mentally stable Gerard Scott to those
If you shoot at a police officer in the US they are trained to magdump you or shoot until you no longer move and when you lie on the ground choking on your own blood they will yell at you to "drop the weapon" or "show us your hands" for 5 minutes until you are really dead - then they call in someone with a shield which takes another 5 minutes and then they slowly walk up to you and notice you are dead from 10 gunshot wounds 
and thats all justified
You kill only if health drops to 0, none of rifles can do this, unless you headshot with it
I wish lmao, but I don't want to end my Goddamn run over trying to babysit some dumbass with cheap-ass gun who thinks he's hot shit
Huh? Maybe I'll try in next session.
1-2 shots to the torso is enough in most cases
what do you mean by rifles cant do that?
You shoot me, i'm sending you to face god. Judge may be the most cracked out USIA/MLO Sleeper agent but he ain't tanking goddamn whole magazine
Most damage that rifle can do is 180 from 7.62x51 JHP, default suspects health is 320
you assume i only hit them once 
Yeap or 2 shots with any other caliber
BROOOO ME TOO LMAO
4-8 per target is usually my standard protocol XD
Except when i potshot, usually it's 2
Trust me, stress & panic gets real and you want to make sure those guy are dead than guessing how many bullet is enough per suspect XD
this is how it usually goes #🎬ron-clips-and-media message
Anyways one example is the Pittsburgh synagogue shooting, the shooter was shot by police several times and finally surrendered, they took him in alive
I typically shoot 3 times
Although I’m not sure if they shot him with pistol or rifle rounds
He was paralyzed from the waist down though
and? People survive gunshot wounds all the time - but you really think the police went like :" Oh man dont hit him in the chest or neck or head, we really need him alive"
he just got lucky, they dont care if they headshot an active shooter
Yeah that’s definitely true
Typically LEO are trained to shoot center mass until it fails due to drugs or other factors, then it is a headshot. However, it's way harder to hit a head than the chest
I don't think IRL police usually measuring their shots. If "shots fired" Is commenced it's gonna be magdump or atleast multiple bullet flying around.
Mozambique drill
Oh so that’s what the annoying Payday 2 cops mean when they scream “CENTER MASS, CENTER MASS FOR FUCK’S SAKE!” every 3 seconds
You have to be very considerate about your rounds. If you're just shooting then congratulations, you've shot an innocent bystander who was minding their business, or sitting in their home
but they dont think about every single bullet, they save their own lives first and then worry about the rest because there is a chance you hit someone sure but you are 100% dead if you dont start shooting back
on the other hand in scenarios where you have the time, then ofc you gotta know whats behind the target etc
I'll be honest as an Indonesia n usually I see police perhaps a bit liberal when it comes to their shooting protocol
No no you just tell them to knock it off and if you say please they’ll do it
But maybe because Indonesian police were powerful af and it's open secret they can get away easier than usual XD
Same deal in the US tbh. It depends on the department but some are definitely way more trigger happy than others
The acorn incident:
Lmaoooooooooo
maybe it depends on the state?
no its the training
ah i see
It's all agency based
Yeah the Minneapolis PD in particular was actually subject to an investigation from the Department of Justice and were found to have pretty awful training
some officers get like 4 weeks of shooting training and 2 days of deescalation training - guess what they gonna think of first 
but talking back about RoN usually i struggled to find middleground unless you're doing less-lethal shotgun. Either i blast those or i'm not firing at all
thats why they get called to a person with mental illness and the person is scared and has a butterknife and the cops just kill them
happens all the time
Eyyyyyup
that's perhaps one of the most irritating part of the game.
what you mean middleground?
between what
Very true. It is unfortunately the society we live in where people are out to get cops, so their training is to neutralize the threat and not deescalate
imo when the suspect were spooked to the point of no return (they start firing)
but perhaps that's because i'm clouding myself with S rank potential mindset
nowadays, i accept that if i'm not using ekss lethal i'm not doing S Rank
yeah but thats normal, the number of cases where a suspect fires at police and then doesnt get shot is very low
so if they shoot you shoot
if they dont shoot - there are options
tbh i'm asking too much at that time, honestly took a while for me to accept
i mean they are poorly trained in general compared to most other western nations - its like VERY fast to become a cop in the US
and by poorly trained i dont mean they suck at shooting etc. but they have a very steep escalation of force ladder that leaves almost 0 room for deescalation which they also get almost no training for
i think Valley of the Dolls is my first nightmare level for me. I remember freaked out so bad that i remember looking at suspect that were in procces of dropping their gun, but since i'm on upper inside floor and he's outside there's no way i'm detaining those at short time, i just blast em XD
True. It takes roughly 20 weeks for training, then a few months with on job training pretty much
yeah in Germany for example its multiple years before they let you loose on the general population with so much power
like on the main room near spawn, the window on the right
gotta know how to act
It's at max a year in the US 😅
i ain't built for S.W.A.T. game XD, maybe that's why i'm using MLO Costume mod XD
And that's the best agency keeping you a year
Terrifying level
i ain't ready for what's coming in next level XD
That basement gives me chills whenever I think about it
this is just idk, 8th level?
still remember when there's no such thing as Ally shooting you for blatant civilian/surrender kill they magdump Volt XD
There’s a couple more super shocking moments later in the game but I think the basement in that level is as disturbing as it gets
Idk, Neon Tomb is pretty dark
For sure but you at least know what to expect. You know it’s gonna be harrowing. On the other hand I don’t think anyone could have expected what was in that basement
both were pretty dark on their own, VotD is disturbing crime they have done, Neon Tomb is the way you see unfortunate people lying dead on the building, hence the tomb
Same with Port Hokan
the situation is done, but the place will be remembered with so many dead bodies lying there.
Yeah going into Neon Tomb and seeing all the bodies stacked on top of bodies was horrible
Has anyone done an official count?
bodies stacking on top of each other really sells it
220ish
you're stepping on graveyard at this point
Daaaaamn. Almost as bad as No Russian (243 dead canonically)
Not to mention the music blasting and flashing lights making everyone disoriented
is that true that when you shut down the stage music it turns into haunting version of it?
i want to hear but can't find it
I don’t remember, last time I did that mission I didn’t get to the DJ booth until after I did BOtC
i see
around 220
well, me gotta go
Can I get a brief TL;DR of the lore for Ends of the Earth? The gun racketeering one. I see a lot of people calling it the most depressing mission but I guess I just don’t see why.
The sons/brothers are making weapons/ components to convert them from Semi to Full Auto. The father knows about it, but is ashamed of the work. He let's it happen though because it's good money. The mother is bedridden and on her deathbed, not knowing about it.
Seems like a stretch, but there is a possible connection to Port Hokan where the brothers provide women for trade in exchange for the weapons
That’s rough
In essence the brothers are forced into a life of crime to make up for the failings of the American healthcare system. Yes they are producing full-auto weapons for criminals and are absolutely contributing to the almost comical levels of violent crime in LS, but in terms of motive they never would have done so if there had been proper social support services in place for their ailing mother
Only thing that detracts from the level are the weird amount of random thugs also just kinda hanging out in their house.
There's like 2 cartel thugs probably looking at a sale when you bust in, nowhere near as ridiculous as 23mbps
What sucks is that the family all are carrying guns on hand, not even holstered when you break in
that level severely needs the weapon caches
do i buy the dark water thing
Yes
can you still get S from using cs gas?
?
Yes you can get S while using cs
joining lobbys is so fucking annoying
why is my game crashing so often in loading screens this is ridiculous
Turn down graphics to low
dont tab out
im not tabbing out
ok, are ap rounds 9mm just completely useless on narcos??
i emptied two mags into one guy and he was still standing
I think the armor the suspects have on narcos is pistol rated
so what round do i use?
im lost bruh
yes they're 9mm
Shoot them after they surrender so the headshots are cleaner
And tell TOC it is a run and gun operation
wait i just relazed did the hotel map get removed?
It got remade into Sins of the father
ohh ok
There is one modded map that brings back OG OG hotel from like 2020
damn i cant run mods 😭
Then no way of playing the old hotel then
fuck
Why not
Mods don’t really affect performance though
The hotel remake mod does though lol it’s super laggy
ye it shows a error thing
Pc specs?
im bottle necking SO bad
What are the specs
I did
Your pc looks like it shouldn’t have issues with ron
The mod issues aren’t your pc it’s something else
i run 22 FPS on mild grafics
what
Yes it is
I mean it shouldn’t have that bad of issues ready or not is just really badly optimized
what does that mean ?
Ready or not is badly optimized
Ready or Not
Lmao
Suspect call me the N-word🤣
Didn't know they could shout that word at you
what a FUCKING SHOT
hit some loser from the opposite side of the building, m14 irons, civvie in hand
I love hosting with a.i mod and watching people charge in and die thinking its vanilla difficulty
And then rage quit
Have any of you tried it on the steam deck? I just got a steam deck yesterday and it works really well even with graphics set to low
@proven blade Just join a public match under multiplayer
i mean planned sutff, like you wanna coop with randoms in this server
I’m stuck on the greased palms level it’s driving me nuts
I’ve been ambushed so many times and I don’t think it’s fair that sometimes you can’t see the suspect when they’re shooting
Apparently the bots on my team have xray vision because they have no problem taking them out
Do the suspects on Carriers of the Vine have body armor under their gowns?
I remember one of them ate a shotgun blast to the chest and surrendered on my first playthrough.
SCYTHE COMPANY UPDATE
Haven’t gotten that far yet
Aren’t mods required by all users
only map mods are required if users want to play them, reskins are solely user-sided, and AI tweaks are host-sided
The important thing is for host to disable server side checksum in gameplay options this will allow for users with different mods and without mods to join alike.
^ that's why I love the mod, cause I get to see solo que players rush forward and die.
its not THAT bad
Yes, level 2 and 3 armor
When will in game recoil to be correct to real life gun recoil?
Use gunfighter
🫵
I know , but why the didn’t dev team fix this?
Game really wants to be as realistic and unrealistic as possible
We seriously need more store/gas station missions
Pretty sure i can speak for almost everyone when i say thats some of the best kind of missions
Does the AK-47 do 7.62 level damage in-game?
If so I find it weird that there are AK-12 skins for it but no AK-15 skins.
It's not that deep
Eh.... Debat able, but that might be because we have to much itense level
Something lain back is welcomed at this point
*laid
It would be fun to do a Costco like warehouse map
Or maybe be the team who has to try and stop the diamond heist in reservoir dogs that would be pretty cool
ak47 dont do our 7.62 damage it follows a separate damage sheet for suspect; if slr47 is being referred to then its literally just a .300 with more pen, identical stat otherwise
Akm use 7.62x39 so it's the same damage like any other rifle with the same or .300 caliber
Man I hate explosive vests
I was almost done with a run on Neon Tomb when this dude who was in the lower floor of the nightclub blew himself up even though we were up on the balcony looking down at him
that one part of greased palms ost rings through my head occasionally, even when im not playing the game
I just saved all the civilians on elephant without trying

I just want to beat the game in Ironman
is it true armourer trait only buffs ceramic?
?
No
#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message
Check this chart
oh
It's increases ceramic and helmets durability by 50%, it's also increases kevlar, steel and broken ceramic damage reduction by 5%
Respond with Chinese Bible verse if you think we should get a drum mag Dragon breath shotgun
is stinger grenade a better version of the flashbang?
2m more radius, but deals high damage
so mostly running cs gas and flashes might be better for S?
You can still get friendly fire from flash
If you're playing with AI teammates
oh but when little dipshit prescott throws one at his team for the 4th time this mission its fine
unrelated but what's this cat name again, it's been a meme for like a week since a year ago and I've been trying to find it ever since
no idea
totally ronular
toc.
Toc!
TOC!
Surely i just make them throw all the cs and flashes so there’s no penalty
That'll work
I'd say that's ridiculous but swat 3 did that pretty much
You had the swat team defusing anti air missles in two different missions
There's a bomb defusal in sewer tunnels
And you have to disarm a suitcase nuke in two missions
And somehow swat 3 feels less over the top than ron to me sometimes
swat3 happnd in ron tho
the M14 memorial thing?
tbh i think RoN lore is just everywhere
It's pretty coherent, all things considered.
There's a metro mod map on mod.io
any ideas as to why i cant hear in game chat? i can see the icon and the name of people chatting in game but cant hear them,,i know my headset works when in a discord chat but i cant figure this out.
It's out of date though isn't it?
Is that what it's a reference to?
yes the m14 thing references two of the late game swat 3 missions the difference being that the swat 3 events were set in 2005, while rons version of it took place in 1999, the year swat 3 released
it felt over the top but still grounded by the game's realism
like putting a competent team of operartors inside a fast and furious movie
hey i think my grass is the wrong color? is it a texture issue or is that the main game?
How many missions r in home invasion and dark waters?
three each
which one do you like more?
ive only played home invasion so im biased toward it
lol
looking at the trailers of dark waters it looks more like a SOF mission instead of swat team mission
it is
its a lot more nighttime and dark condition raids where you need to be packing gpnvgs for cqb in dark spots
Why does the snub nose on the .357 decrease muzzle flash? In my experience shooting .357 revolvers the shorter the barrel the bigger the fireball and there's more recoil since the gun has less inertia.
It should be increased ADS speed at the cost of more flash and more recoil.
And plus 1000% damage against John Lennon
Game hates anything involving increased ADS speed (most the attachments are a straight up lie that's been around for too damn long)
Honestly wild that still hasn't gotten addressed
How to ads faster? Always ads 
It's still nonsensical for a snubnose to decrease muzzle flash when it should be the opposite.
You see: it's not a lie if it makes the player believe it's true so they perceive it to be true
Increasing ADS speed would make sense since a shorter barrel will be lighter.
Gas lighting fucking devs

boid moment.
whats the best place to spawn for sins of the father
The first one
I always spawn roof.
Somewhere on sins of the father
You can choose where to spawn on that mission?
Yeh
You've got rooftop, balcony, elevator
Balcony best if you got big balls
the first one
Balcony turns boys into MEN
randomizer and deal with it
in sins of the solar empire II
Sins of the Solar: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back
Sins of a solar empire III the search for Spock
Balcony fans explaining why they hate themselves
I've only done roof but honestly elevator seems better
Access to both floors without having to go into a two-way kill-tunnel.
cant full auto with the vks 😔
I have a feeling that this is not the real game...
https://www.roblox.com/games/16404660684/NEW-MAP-BODYCAM
(it has a ss of the real game in its thumbnail)
Void is aware (unless this is a new one, but I don't think so)
Probably, if it's in 3 digits or in years its most likely out of date
There is 0 chance that giant metro map is up to date
made on 2/17/2024 so new ish
That's for sure the one they know of
Over a year, not a chance it's gonna be working
Plus the comments are saying that it doesn't work and immediately gives them S
Yep well they made the money and probably don't care about the game anymore
They know it's only a matter of time before void dmcas them
I've been off ron for a while now, like 2 weeks or something (uninstalled it because i need more storage)
i kinda want to download it again, continue trying to s rank missions
Do it
Just remove a couple games you haven't played in a while
well ron was one of them
So just remove a couple games you haven't played in a while to play a game you haven't played in a while
Or just reinstall, grind and immediately uninstall
Just delete one DLC of Warzone
do we get news abt updates coming in recently?
Yeah im almost done with it
I read somewhere that Voll has a hidden camera in one of his bathrooms. Which bathroom and where’s the camera?
Does he actually? I'm gonna try and find that while I'm dealing with a security guard armed with a five-seven aiming at a squad of 5 heavily armed trigger-happy swat officers who have already killed over 8 of his crew
Lmao probably better to search for it in replay mode
Never used it
Why is it that for my enemies, stingers are like I threw a snowball at them, but for my teammates, it's like I just detonated a thermonuclear warhead?
The radius doesn't make sense
Radius is 12m for stinger
If suspect did not get stun after explode then it's caused by bad throw
How do I throw better?
Because I keep having moments where my stinger or flashbang will bounce off the edge of a doorway or perfectly stick to a railing and it's just like
klfnjgewjkolgnjhrtefjiklgjqauiogpeqrjhna
Use gas instead
Is there a way to get my guys to deploy stuff when looking at doors?
Nope, only by using deploy command
how to get beat cop :(
using a five seven rn and heavy armor, but am i not allowed to use lockpick to open doors once my leg breaks?
no thats door kicking
look at the lock to lock pick
also, FINNALY GOT S RANK ONT 23 MEGABITES A SECOND
You can use lockpick
Either you did not get at least C grade or you used something that not allowed
thanks ig ill try again
You can use ballistic shield as well
the distinguished pepper ball gun:
Omg i also almost got first try on twisted nerve
BUT SOME RANDOM GUY GOT INCAPACITATED FOR NO FICKING REASON
AAAAA
what are you using
That mission is bugged anyways
Pepper ball
Wdym
is your ai team all equipped with pepperball too
Ye
are you using stingers
Those are the throwables right?
yes stinger grenades
Nope
aiming for center mass or for the head
Center
using breaching charges?
Suspects can drop invisible knives that you cant secure
thanks man
You mean C-2?
yes breaching charges
Oh lol
Nope
what was the circumstances under which your suspect dropped
He was just laying there in a corner
Bro just gave up on life
did anyone shoot at you prior to this
did he have a gun possibly
Nope he was just there
was he incapped before you even entered the room
Maybe got hit with to much pepper ball
Pepper rifles cant incapacitate
was he already incapacitated when you entered the room
Idk
I’m gonna watch replay when I’m home
were any shots fired or heard in his general area prior to entering
Idk
the only 2 explanations I can think of is a stray bullet hit him or he blew his brains out but with a shitty gun so it incapped
or one of your teammates has a beanbag shotgun and you didn't realize
Yeah they do
oh
thsts why lol beanbag shotgun can and does incapacitated
2 of em
Oooh
Most of the time it can't
If you aim for the head its lethal
ok well the suspect didn't magically drop now did he
only viable explanation is a stray bullet through a wall or a beanbag incapacitated him
which btw thats stupid and should count as full score
Headshot is instakill
Thats what i meant
It won't incapacitate
not necessarily + beanbag can incapacitate in some cases too
Beanbag only deals 5 damage
And most suspects have 300+ health
I've had my fair share of experiences over the years with the beanbag shotgun it can definitely incapacitate especially with 2 of them in combo with pepperballs
Breach shotgun can incapacitate even when you aim for the head
Maybe the same thing is happening with the beanbag
Idk
Is a flashbang better than a stinger?
In terms of safety - yes, but radius is 2m less compared to stinger
understood. thank you
Hide and seek is annoying me so badly, I just lost 2 officers (dont ask me how) and i cant even find the last suspect, i just did a search and secure but nothing
are you allowed to headshot suspects with vkl and still get S?
If it'll kill them no
does it kill them?
unless you're using No Mercy mod, u can't get an S rank after killing suspects
I don't know I don't know what the vkl is
the pepper ball rifle
Oh then yes aim for the head
not the smg one
If its pepper you want to aim for the eyes nose and mouth so yes hit them in the head with that
against armored suspects about how many shots do you need to hit them in their body to force surrender?
I'm not sure I don't really use pepperball sorry
About 4 (yes, really)
sometimes even more
hold on. do i still have to not get injured when trying to get s score
?
It doesnt affect the score, if you get injured.
understood. thank you
entry team
entry team
TOC to entry team: Might I remind you that how you perform in this Discord reflects upon the entire force. Think about that in chat today.
Also.
Which weapon is better for getting S score? beanbag or pepperball?
Beanbag is more effective
Just don't aim for the head
And
If you're playing with AI teammates don't give them beanbag
i gave them pepperball
Thats better
also make sure they dont have ammo in their pistols cause if they get hit they tend to take lethal counter actions
understood. thank you
what missions is the beanbag not good on
its good on all missions
some are longer distance
it works like a slug plus it takes less time to make a suspect surrender
the pepper ball guns can at time feel like pissing in the wind they wont give up
i once unloaded 2 mags into 1 person and he didnt give up
plus some maps the enemies have gas masks so the pepper gun doesnt work so well and if u dont have a gass mask on u will suffere with pepper guns due to the red pepper dust it leaves
Beanbag is better than pepper rifles
As long as you don't aim for the head
so pepper for ai team
"rescue all the civilians" dawg WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY 😭
[Sinous Trail]
searched outside, the roof, the server rooms and offices on 1st floor, the server rooms on ground floor, kitchen too
bathrooms, power room, loading docks, second floor server room, managers office, second floor workers stations, use the search and secure command
LAST CIV IS ALWAYS ANNOYING
sorry caps
theres also a small room in the long hallway from the lobby to the servers room that they sometimes hide in
my officers are not even responding to search and secure commands anymore
yeah they eventually do that theyre dicks
they dont get paid overtime anymore it seems
man i dont wanna restart 😭 , i already lost 1 officer, rest of them are gonna resign
everytime i decide to play this game, this happens
ts 💔
if u stay still enough u might hear the civ running looking for u
Yes
finally it's done
