👮ron-discussion

[split elk]

Idk I chalk it down to dumb muscle dumb enough to be hired by a twitch streamer

[polar night]

the crack house map gives me pleasant memories of the super unfinished game years ago, it's so cool to see it go from basically a test map to it's current state

I remember when they first updated the little girls room with all the details, was hype

[split elk]

Oh wait yeah. Elephant is. Mid. The only thing it has "going" for it is the active shooter. Which is the whole point.

Like its a very straight to the point map.

Not every map has to be amazing and I think it fulfills it's task well. No hate

[polar night]

I feel like it would've hit way harder if they went with the original vision of it being a high school

[split elk]

Yeah prolly.

But this is one where I go. Ehhhhh. Bit too dark I guess. Also would be extremely extremely controversial.

Lethal obsession is. Good? It's short. Sweat and full of traps. Never felt like I could handle that map without a 20ft pole.

[polar night]

I see that but they didn't shy away from doing say, a nightclub shooting

[split elk]

True

[polar night]

Neon Tomb is actually one of the best maps tho

[copper silo]

Almost everyones dead in neon tomb

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art probably has 100 screenshots of poelp postinga bout how they killed every civillian in the elephant

[split elk]

Unironically. Very very traumatizing. Though relapse was more eerie for me given my life experiences.

[polar night]

Yeah people are edgy. Same reason I'm guessing there's no actual children around. Since you'd be able to kill them accidentally or otherwise

I know for ratings boards that's a huge no no

[noble pasture]

4 chaners are the reason we cant have kid npc's

[split elk]

Alright but let's be fr. Sins of the father. Peak map. I dunno how but it's peak. Valley of the dolls is fun. Shooting amos voll is a cherry on the top.
Caesar's car dealership is amazing as well.

[polar night]

Sins of the Father is great. Atmosphere is off the charts on that one, and the rogue secret service agents are an interesting shake up

[noble pasture]

Didnt they make Voll surrender more often now?

[split elk]

They should've fixed the bug that makes my gun go -500 unauthorized use of deadly force then

[noble pasture]

I think he was a civie before 1.0

At 1.0 became a hostile with huge morale

And now they lowered it

[polar night]

A shame you have to take him alive or get a D

[copper silo]

Dude i remember his wife before 1.0

pretty sure i died to her once when i was low

[polar night]

She clawed my eyes out on more than one occasion

[noble pasture]

Tehnically, 1 jhp to the gut still counts as alive

Doctors will have fun digging the .357 out of him

Or better yet, aim for the pelvis

[polar night]

TOC, suspect is down but breathing. For maybe like, 5 more minutes. Gonna go look for the last civ, take my time...

[noble pasture]

No, you have to patch up breathing suspects

Its not in the animation but you give first aid to suspects shot up

[split elk]

TOC suspect is down I think I hit the femur. Tell TEMS to take their time there isn't much blood.

I don't think voll survives long in Los suenos prison anyway lol

[noble pasture]

Isolation cell

[polar night]

He's gonna Epstein 😭

[split elk]

Like the guards won't mistreat him

[polar night]

Like how Quadamah got his ass put in the ICU after getting arrested lol

[noble pasture]

I think they are under orders to not harm high risk prisoners

[polar night]

Those two COs weren't having it

[noble pasture]

Guards did that

[polar night]

Ye

[noble pasture]

Voll may be the biggest monster

[polar night]

I have a slight negative association with Relapse cuz I did the mission more or less flawlessly until I got to Quadamah. He put up a fight but after taking a shot he surrendered. Unfortunately for me it was in his wrist and I just kinda watched as all the blood drained out and I got my -500

[noble pasture]

Voll has industrial ammounts of cheese pizza

His ass doing life in prison

[split elk]

My fav was first time arresting jack Adams. AI mag dumped him and he lived. Somehow.

A+ lmfao

[noble pasture]

Might get in some murder charges

[polar night]

The crazy thing with Voll? On Carriers of the Vine you can find a magazine article about how he's supposedly expected to beat the charges

Tells his friends "he'll find a way"

[noble pasture]

Beat my ass

He is cooked

[polar night]

I hope so

[noble pasture]

Bro didnt even have like 2 compromising pics

He has a full library of videos

Several HDD's

[polar night]

Literal SHELVES of CP starring him

Unless his face isn't in any videos ? But this guy is a porn star, his whole body is extremely well catalogued

[noble pasture]

He isnt escaping the Justice System

[polar night]

The corpses in his basement

Like I don't know HOW he could possibly escape

[noble pasture]

Also on a S rank you get his goons in as well. One will squeeze

[split elk]

He finds a way and most likely gets shot by some crazy lol

It's Los suenos. People would shoot him for looking rich. They don't need much

[noble pasture]

Promise lessened sentence and his guards will talk

[polar night]

Okay I was trying to say, he gets out and some very well adjusted individual decides to do what the law could not

Sorry for poor language

[noble pasture]

Milky Toes got 18 years sentence for a few pics

No way Voll escapes with the amount of evidence

[polar night]

Yeah I don't care how much he's paying those guards, one will flip if they offer enough

[noble pasture]

Hit them with the right offer and they will switch

[polar night]

Then we just gotta hope they remain protected for the trial

[noble pasture]

A friend said that the detectives find the guy who knows most about Voll among his security, offer a sweet deal and he will testify in court

S ranks are somewhat best case scenario

[polar night]

And the worst part is Voll is just a tiny piece of this CP machine. A supplier.

[noble pasture]

Dont we take out a few players?

[polar night]

Taking him down is good, but there will always be another

[noble pasture]

S ranking this game is really hard

[polar night]

I think during the last main mission we follow all the connected leads from each mission leading to taking down one of the spiders auction houses

[noble pasture]

I dont want any other spider missions

[polar night]

Which is definitely a bigger hit than Voll

[noble pasture]

We blow a 20 million dollar operation

Nothing to sneeze at

[polar night]

Speaking of, what's going on with FISA in that mission

[noble pasture]

Easy to explain, FISA doesnt want civies running around an active crime scene

[polar night]

Why must I close the door? What investigation could I be interfering with? Feels more like I stumbled into something I wasn't supposed to find

Why wouldn't we just have the trailers arrest them

[noble pasture]

We cuff civies whole game

[polar night]

Take them somewhere safe

[noble pasture]

And what if a civie get shot in the chaos?

Mark the crate with a couple light sticks and move on

[polar night]

In my case order had already been brought to chaos, it was the last thing I did. Dude told me to close the door, I did, mission over

I sat there with hives lmao

[noble pasture]

Whole op takes 10-15 minutes, they wont starve to death

[split elk]

I'm surprised chief alvarez hasn't gone postal through the events of the entire game

[noble pasture]

Plus those crate women are trafficking victims. FISA detectives want info

[noble pasture]

Who?

[split elk]

Must be tough for him tbh. Iirc he was typing up a resignation letter in the earlier iterations of the police station

[split elk]

The chief of police.

[polar night]

You gotta admit it's certainly sus

[noble pasture]

Why would he resign?

[polar night]

From Judges reaction if really doesn't seem like standard operating procedure

[split elk]

Have you seen him lol. He looks 110 years old

[noble pasture]

Just white hair and some wrinkles. He could be 50

[polar night]

He's actually 35, stress just aged him poorly

Lol

[noble pasture]

But isnt police supposed to be able to retire sooner?

My dad retired at 47

[split elk]

I think the mayor or governor is pressuring him tbh

[polar night]

Maybe it's his choice and he doesn't want to retire because of how ruined LS is

Feels like he should help

[noble pasture]

Lets say S ranks are canon

Bringing in so many people alive to be prosecuted should help the public image no?

[split elk]

I got the scene where he chews out the detective for not going by the book. He the real deal.

[polar night]

It certainly should. People in LS really seem down on disliking police though

[noble pasture]

He would hate the average Ron player

[split elk]

Eh considering the informants that got killed. The FISA corruption. LSPD running protection for rich people as mentioned by the two officers near the evidence room.

[noble pasture]

We can gun down every chicken shit criminal or bring them in to face justice

[split elk]

Imma be fr like. It's a tough discussion to have but not here. Moving on

The poor guy clearly needs a hug and a break

[noble pasture]

Why the mustache?

[polar night]

Good thing we have a world class therapist

It's where he keeps his power

[split elk]

Lol. The most useless therapist. He doesn't know judge can only process caffeine and lead.

[polar night]

And sometimes chem light

He's trying to quit

[split elk]

Surely like. The other officers must be unnerved by judge right

[polar night]

I would be

[split elk]

I mean I would've been spooked the fuck out after the three letter triad briefing

[polar night]

Meanwhile he's just stoic

I mean he is some kind of government manufactured super cop

Sleeper agent something or other

[split elk]

Tf you mean USIA contact after that crazy guy shot up the makade station

Or that other crazy lady who killed two officers in carriers of the vine

[polar night]

Did you notice that Gerard is legit pantsless hanging dong

[split elk]

Nah I shoot him before I notice

Imagine judge just doesn't think about the cabin at all.

[polar night]

He's gotta be careful or he might snag his nutsack on the barbed wire in the gaps they sidle through

[noble pasture]

I started a quick play s rank mission of Sulivan Slopw

I got spawn camped

[polar night]

He's a good shot

[split elk]

My personal headcanon is judge is actually related to the swat commander from SWAT 4.

[noble pasture]

I got outgunned again

This is 3rd fucking attempt

How did this suspect AI get past QA?

[polar night]

What's weird about the AI in this game is it feels like it behaves completely differently for different players

[noble pasture]

Fuck this map

Downloading a mod to lessen AI bullshit

3 attempts and still lost

[polar night]

He's in the walls

[noble pasture]

He did exactly that

[polar night]

Yeah he's good at that 🤣

[noble pasture]

I am cursed

even with a "No crack for AI, less intesnity" mod

1 singular suspect injured 2 officers and killed one

what the fuck RoN?

I threw a CS nade

[rancid wraith]

And this is on Sullivan slope, right?

If so, some of the suspects have gas masks (idk if they actually work or not) but I’d recommend you switch over to flashbangs and carry a launcher with CS

[noble pasture]

it was the no pants ghillie suit guy

also I keep having worst possible luck in this game

I was doing gas station with lessened AI aggression mod

a random ass -200 points for a civie death I wasnt even in same room to notice

[rancid wraith]

Still, I’d go with flashbangs just in case

[noble pasture]

how does a random civie just die?

[rancid wraith]

Suspect will shoot them

[chilly marlin]

Probably when you orded them to leave the scene the suspect shoots them..

[rancid wraith]

Or blood lose surprisingly

[chilly marlin]

Hmm

how do they get damaged?

[noble pasture]

I didnt order anyone to run away

[chilly marlin]

then probably the suspect shot them

[noble pasture]

This game is bullshit

[rancid wraith]

I was clearing a room when a suspect started to shoot me, I accidentally shot a civilian that was in the way in the thigh and once the suspect was down, the civilian died

[noble pasture]

Vanilla, I get my ass kicked, modded, I get my ass kicked

[rancid wraith]

Go lethal for a couple runs to get familiar with where suspects could be at

Then try an S run

[noble pasture]

My officers lose sanity

[rancid wraith]

Get a couple of S.B.A.Gs in your squad

[chilly marlin]

I start with non-lethal, lol

[rancid wraith]

I rarely do S rank runs because I don’t want to put a hole in my wall because of some bullshit

Only ones I’ve s ranked was the gas station and valley of the dolls (I did valley of dolls with mods so it wasn’t as bad)

[noble pasture]

Should I give swat AI a shield?

[rancid wraith]

Sure

[naive badger]

Yea

[noble pasture]

Dont they over extend with the shields?

[tacit gull]

They can over extend even without them

[noble pasture]

Give them big callibers to one shot?

[tacit gull]

that works

[noble pasture]

What 7.62 caliber gun works?

[tacit gull]

they all work

[noble pasture]

Give them 1 shotgun too?

A shotgun can handle cqc

I need a shotgun man

Main shotgun and breaching shotgun

[jaunty plover]

i looked around the discord a bit and didn't find any mention of this, but has there been any progress on the known issue of suspects surrendering and being impossible to arrest? i keep having the bug on the one level i still need to S tier and don't want to keep trying until its addressed

[jolly verge]

#❗known-issues-and-fixes message

[jaunty plover]

i'm aware its a known issue, was hoping there was some more info about whether a fix was coming next patch, or if anyone found ways to avoid it happening

[noble pasture]

@jolly verge how do I beat Ironman without wasting a million flashbangs?

[limber escarp]

Right now we don't know if theres a fix coming, because they wont announce it ahead of time, but do know if its in #❗known-issues-and-fixes that it WILL be fixed by the next patch or so

Right now the best to avoid that happening is by NOT arrest canceling (arresting but pressing the s,w,a, or d key to cancel it), and be careful using less lethals. This isnt a common occurence, I've had this happen to me once but thats it, so if it happens you just have to restart or have your SWAT ai find a way to arrest them

[prisma axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtaQcJdIuKM

this as a gameplay trailer would be bangers

[limber escarp]

It would definitely have to be updated, theres a bunch of outdated assets, but I agree

[prisma axle]

like just for an fools day sale would slap but with the games style is like putting peanut butter or a medium rare steak

[limber escarp]

I do like the way they went with the 1.0 trailer, that transition at the beginning was cool af

But I feel like if they did show more of a compilation all in one video of what to expect like that video you sent, plus adding some parts of the 1.0 trailer, it would probably bring in a lot of people

I think honestly void needs to do a showcase like how a lot of gaming studios out there do, like a voice-over narration showing all aspects of the game from the customization, the weapons, the maps, the AI, game mechanics, etc.

[noble pasture]

guys, how do I beat Ironman without wasting a million flashbangs?

[limber escarp]

That way people can truly know what to expect

[limber escarp]

Ironman mode?

[noble pasture]

Yes

[limber escarp]

Are you going for an achievement or just trying to complete ironman mode

[noble pasture]

The Hermit achievement

Currently rawdogging rooms

No way to predict where suspects are even with mirror

Swat AI just executed a civie for being taken hostage

I cant do this shit

[limber escarp]

For that one, your best case is to do this:

• Use Heavy Armor with Ceramic plates, put this on your SWAT AI as well

• Make sure to have plenty of ammo, and try to keep only a small amount of sidearm mags so you can put it towards deployables and tools

• Stingers, Stingers, Stingers. Stingers will be your best friend, they cause the suspect to have a higher chance of giving up.

• You CANNOT have any officers die or resign. If your officers get stressed, do an easy mission like the gas station to decrease their stress level

What I do is I use Heavy Armor with Ceramic Plates, bring stingers, and a breach shotgun. Have your SWAT ai use the mirror gun as they're coded to know if a suspect or a trap is on the otherside, and make sure to use less-lethals (stingers and such) a lot.

[noble pasture]

I had to scrap my playthrough because SWAT AI killed a civie

We cant have that

[limber escarp]

I mean you dont have to, if your officers dont resign or die you'll be fine, and as long as you dont die your playthrough remains

But you do you

[noble pasture]

Its a thing of principle

So swat AI gets hit in a limb on first shot, can't hit the broad side of a suspect and cap every civie they see

[limber escarp]

The outcome of a mission isnt recorded except for the final score which can always be modified, but like I said if you wanna scrap it go ahead

[noble pasture]

I can't shoot for shit, if I bring a shield, first suspect insta locks on my head breaking the glass and making the shield useless

[jaunty plover]

maybe take a break and try again later

[noble pasture]

I have to beat this shit modless or it's worthless prize

[limber escarp]

Yeah thats whats I did, if I couldnt do a mission I closed the game and came back

[limber escarp]

Breaks are important, but the only thing you'll gain if you overstress yourself and complete it modless is just a sense of pride

Enjoy the game, take breaks, dont take it too seriously

[noble pasture]

No one will respect me if I use mods

[limber escarp]

No one cares lmao

[jaunty plover]

i can assure you not one single human will care

[limber escarp]

I did it unmodded, completed all missions solo on S with just a taser, yet no one cares

It's just a thing of self-challenge

[jaunty plover]

on the other end of the spectrum i cheesed the everloving hell out of it alt f4-ing every time a mission went badly, and it was still a fun challenge and kept me motivated to play every level again

[limber escarp]

^^^

[noble pasture]

I don't think Alt F4 works anymore

[amber dock]

It still does

You just have to ALT F4 before the score screen shows up

[limber escarp]

But we're not saying to use mods, we're just saying to take a break now and then so you play at your best. Mods like the No Mercy Mod, gunfighter, or No Crack for AI mod arent looked down upon by people. There are people in mulitplayer who prefer not to play the game with those types of mods, but thats just it

[round pagoda]

just aim good and your problems are solved

[noble pasture]

I cant

[round pagoda]

then can'tn't

[noble pasture]

I tried with No Crack today and still got my ass kicked

[jaunty plover]

can'tn't is solid advice

[limber escarp]

every gun has a different recoil, go to the range and train with different weapons till you find the one you work with best

[jaunty plover]

simply can'tn't

[noble pasture]

I like g36 but hate reloading it

[round pagoda]

dafuq

[amber dock]

Such a weird reason why you don't use a gun lol

[limber escarp]

Personally, I use the SR-16, thats always been my go-to weapon. Try that one out, it's a pretty good weapon

[amber dock]

Like I understand people say they don't use a certain gun cause it looks bad or whatever. But because of the reload animation? that's new

[round pagoda]

no one can relate to bro

[noble pasture]

G36 reloads a 3rd like an AK, 2 other thirds like an AR

[round pagoda]

ok and

[noble pasture]

One or the other, not both

[round pagoda]

be happy the devs allow you to reload it at all

did not mean to use that sticker but ok lmao

[noble pasture]

The only reason I like g36 is because it has low recoil

[round pagoda]

reload animation sucks for g36, literally unplayable uninstalling rn

bad

[jaunty plover]

i mean there are 30 rounds in the magazine, do any missions have more than 30 suspects?

why would you even need to reload?

[round pagoda]

Fr

one tap everyone easy

Only need 1 mag

[narrow geode]

How much time do we have to put on a bandage before we die from bleeding

[wraith basin]

Under 20 seconds was it?

[tacit gull]

It's based on how much health you have

[narrow geode]

[wraith basin]

Ah mb

[covert furnace]

yeah, I’ve had myself bleed out before I even got my finger to the F key

[eager holly]

Tavorx 95

[formal valley]

i just completed gas station level completing all the obejctives and soft objectives, all secured and evidence etc and no penalties but i got an A+ and not an S, why?

[karmic pine]

when next update 🤔

[covert furnace]

You sure one suspect didn’t get incapacitated?

[formal valley]

oh yeah one did

it doesnt show tho :(

didnt know abt that requirement, thanks

[fathom laurel]

Is this game worth buying even if you have nobody to play it with?
*And also are the DLCs worth it?

Thanks

[smoky kernel]

Yes and you can always find people to play it with #🔎looking-for-players even if you dont have the dlcs if the host has them you can play them

[covert furnace]

Absolutely on both fronts

[fathom laurel]

Alrighty thanks guys

[sterile dagger]

how do I stop my teammates from cuffing students on elephant?

[edgy linden]

Try 80 suspects with better aim and reaction timing.

[round pagoda]

imagine letting bots beat your ass

skill issue

[true panther]

Why would you not want them to do that? Free civs don't run from the shooters.

[warped cave]

Idrk what to do, so should I keep my LSSD swat stuff which overrides the normal LSPD helmets, uniforms and vests or keep it.

tbh i mean i could always readd it at any point in time

so

[round pagoda]

why you asking us dawg 😭

you want us to pick your preference?

[warped cave]

yes

just yes or no

1 or 2

[round pagoda]

I hate these types of questions
"should I use [insert weapon/cosmetic]"

[warped cave]

but this time i'm getting rid of

or keeping

[round pagoda]

and then add it back later

It doesn't fucking matter

[warped cave]

true

[round pagoda]

I don't understand why people need the approval from strangers in a discord server for using something in game

just play the fucking game how you like

[tacit gull]

competitive 5v5 brainrot

[prime wing]

no buddy, your take is wrong

I am right

because uh

The graphs

[tacit gull]

kaminsky please pull up the graphs

[sterile dagger]

so I can tell them to get the hell out of dodge rather than be sitting ducks, teammates can cuff them in some awkward places

[tacit gull]

Only way to get SWAT AI not to cuff is to basically disable them with the hold command

[sterile dagger]

yeah that works, only need them to chill for a few seconds, thanks

[tacit gull]

Though with how elephant works its better to just have them tag along and clear the level yourself while they arrest

[edgy linden]

It's better to just use gas grenades against gas mask suspects.

Even if they can't breath the stink they are engulfed in the stink cloud

[round pagoda]

fart on them

[edgy linden]

Scissor choke hold I prefer

[tacit gull]

excuse me

[edgy linden]

[tacit gull]

what the hell kind of shit do they get up to in the dying light server

[round pagoda]

Dying light? More like living dark

[wraith basin]

You prefer it in which way exactly? Giving or recieving, huh? Asking the important questions here.

[edgy linden]

Classified document.

[wraith basin]

So its both.

[edgy linden]

[lost inlet]

Why’s femboy joker spreading freakiness in RoN server?

[stiff spade]

is anyone getting a bug in replay where you will hear the entry vehicle the whole time (ex. if i opened a replay on a normal map id hear the swat van for the whole replay

[stiff spade]

or if im playing dlc2 ill hear the helicopter or boat the whole time

it stops if i skip ahead in the replay but then all noise cuts

[uneven hazel]

This is a question that can probably be answered by just booting up the game and checking my keybinds but I'm too lazy to do that. wtf is the key to melee suspects?

[narrow geode]

If you're talking about bash
Its B

[opal basin]

joe rogan ass line

[scarlet flax]

The stink makes them blind for free?

[knotty moss]

I hope we get the FN FAL and M16.

[round pagoda]

Who's gonna tell him

[thorny perch]

shhh

[tawny panther]

¿QUÉ ES EL FAL?

PREGUNTO UNA VEZ JUAN LINDO

[tacit gull]

sa-58 and sr16 be like

[covert furnace]

Yeah you tell em

[tacit gull]

But to be fair i'd love a retro m16 in the game

[rigid depot]

The m16 wouldn't be very useful in my opinion it wouldn't have much place for attachments and its also way too long to do cqb ig

[thorny perch]

rule 9 violation

BANNED FOR LIFE!!!

[tawny panther]

dawg

[rigid depot]

what does that mean? what he said

[tacit gull]

I wouldn't say most of the new rifles are really fit for CQB

[rigid depot]

fair enough there is that one br thats a gyaddamn marksman rifle or sum

at least it looks like one

[tacit gull]

Not every weapon needs 5000 rails opposed to what the devs think, still super unhappy the socom has a rail forced at all times

[tawny panther]

what is the fal?
I once asked dear juan
it's lyrics from a song called qué es el fal by carlos mejia godoy

[tacit gull]

The MP5SD is epic despite having only 2 attachments

[rigid depot]

Yeah but I do like some customization on a gun because it allows you to adapt it to different environments

[rigid depot]

I prefer using rifles instead of smg's but maybe I'll give it a try

[tacit gull]

There's never really any incentive to not just run the same attachments at all times, there's always one right grip dependant on the gun's recoil, there's always that one sight that just gives the best picture, there's always that scope that has 1 use in the entire game one time and then never again

[noble pasture]

Whats your favourite story arc in the game?

[tacit gull]

the cheese pizza arc

[unborn pelican]

Chees

[clever scarab]

real

rail haters unite

[civic sail]

I HATE 9MM AMMO

ALL MY HOMIES HATE 9MM AMMO

[clever scarab]

i really wish the attachments were more balanced around giving up some mobility for ease of use or something like that

them just being straight upgrades with no downside 90% of the time is really boring and furthers the issue where most guns in this game feel the exact same to use

why wouldnt you run the stubby vertical grip and flash hider on every intermediate rifle in the game

why wouldnt you run the vert grip on every battle rifle

same with the sights

i find myself usually running the temu eotech because every other sight has such a tiny sight picture

the scopes are still really clunky and prone to visual artifacting if youre running any of the upscaling options

[civic sail]

Yeah all my guns run the exact same load out cus why not it's pretty boring

I don't think I've ever used another grip other than the combat

[clever scarab]

yea

its unfortunate cause so much work goes into the assets for the guns but like, most people settle into a couple and never run the other ones because of aesthetic preferences and the fact a lot of them work the exact same and benefit from the exact same attachment setups doesnt help

[stone stump]

it looks absolutely awful

balancing is the last thing they should do in this game

[clever scarab]

theyve been balancing it since it came out

[stone stump]

elaborate

i can only recall 9mm sucking less (it still sucks and shouldn't be ever used), 5.56 having more power and that's pretty much it

they also introduced some bugs that changed the effective damage dealt

[clever scarab]

id argue pretty much everything has been focused around balancing and defining the whole gameplay loop

its pretty different compared to when it first launched

and anything you change doing that is balancing

every time they get yelled at to change the ai its a player facing balancing issue its been happening for literal years atp

and i dont really see why encouraging people to switch up the tools they bring is a bad thing considering the game is actively balanced around it as is

with tacticals and equipment being as vital as they are

[stone stump]

it is a bad thing because attachments don't magically change how the weapon behaves

[clever scarab]

its a video game

you dont survive 20 shots to the arms and legs and fix your bleeding in 2 seconds either

[stone stump]

it's also a tactical shooter meant to be somewhat realistic

[clever scarab]

interesting gameplay comes before "realism"

[clever scarab]

would attachments doing different things really shatter your suspension of disbelief that bad

[rigid depot]

its fine for a handgun and a lot of smg's

[clever scarab]

because theres a hundred much sillier things in this game

[stone stump]

swat being a sponge is kinda a fix for suspect ai being sus

[civic sail]

Takes 14 bullets to break ceramic armor no thank you

Much rather just use a higher caliber gets the job done sooner and I just don't like how most 9mm guns look

[stone stump]

suspects don't have ceramic armor

[clever scarab]

whenever im running any of the smgs i always gravitate towards the spc and p90 because theyre the only ones that consistently kill quickly with bodyshots

[civic sail]

Yeah but my buddy does and I like to shoot him when our missions are over

[clever scarab]

spc because bullet hose funny and p90 feels like it has some actual penetration

[civic sail]

I usually got P90 or UMP

[rigid depot]

okay but use 5.56 against armor use 9 mill against light armor suspects on close range

[stone stump]

you deal less damage to teammates :-)

[civic sail]

That doesn't change the fact I like to shoot him when the mission is over

[civic sail]

Or just use 556 against it all and save me the trouble of switching back and forth

[stone stump]

don't blame you, that's all you can do with nerf guns

[civic sail]

Pew pew funny team kill

[rigid depot]

yeah of course I do that too but if you had to use your secondary for some reason

[clever scarab]

yea rn intermediate guns are everything to everyone, i dont see much sense in switching off them other than aesthetic preference

[civic sail]

Id use a 45 or better AP pistol and spray for my life while I retreat so I can reload my rifle

[stone stump]

how do you run out of ammo in the first place

[civic sail]

I really don't like 9mm it's also a passion thing I disagree with it 9mm goes against my religious ways

[civic sail]

I don't I bring like 10 primary mags

[stone stump]

...in the magazine

also, 10 mags is way too much

you should be perfectly fine with 4

[civic sail]

Oh that's because I'm a dangerous moron who full autos a mag when they see a twitch

[civic sail]

Also currently what I'm doing in RON is completing the campaign with nothing but a revolver so I need a lot of ammo

[clever scarab]

clint eastwood%

[bold sky]

anyone tested if .300 jhp still pen l3 armor? gerad is tanking arn180 jhp after i capture him

[frail pier]

Yes, but they have the highest health pool out of any other suspect

[vague isle]

is it just me or large maps are the most annoying in ron

[amber dock]

Yes

First 10 minutes just action remaining 20 is walking around with gun down looking for a civ

[vague isle]

also quick question

where do the bombs spawn in elephant?

[amber dock]

It’s random each time

A lot of diff place

[vague isle]

what should i do first

kill the shooters or find the bombs?

[amber dock]

Shooters first

Always always

[vague isle]

yeah but 11 minutes is short

[amber dock]

How slow do you clear the map if 11 minutes is not enough?

[vague isle]

theres a thing called

the moment you turn a corner the enemy has aimbot and insane reflexes

L

[amber dock]

Well that’s Ron being Ron

[vague isle]

well i should jus practice

[amber dock]

I’ve S ranked elephant in like 5 minutes with 2 extra people

[vague isle]

ill just find the bombs while dealing the shooters

[jolly verge]

#🎨ron-screenshots-and-art message

[vague isle]

also thanks

i dont care if civilians are dead man

i just wanna finish this campus shooting mission grahh

( i died )

[bold sky]

pre fire corners then

[vague isle]

like shoot corners?

[bold sky]

if you dont care about civvies then you can start prefire spot you know that are hard to manage

[vague isle]

i mean idgaf

it doesnt affect my performance ( even mission grade )

[bold sky]

once you start prefiring angles you know are hard to deal w this game is kinda thrilling

[vague isle]

although i dont want to see aa fat F

[bold sky]

i think the grading system in this game sucks tbh so its better to mod this game into a terrorist hunt bc its gunplay aspect is stellar, but if you want to play vanila in a balanced way

[vague isle]

its useless even

[bold sky]

then prefiring angles is still very valid, and constant yell spam helps you identify civ faster

[tacit gull]

I completely disagree, balancing is something they've been severely ignoring for the longest time and it has left so much of the game feeling utterly inconsistent

[round pagoda]

hell naw

[vague isle]

fyi i am paranoid

[bold sky]

back when the bots were very very very uber cracker if you dont prefire you actually just die

[round pagoda]

then don't

[vague isle]

i throw flash bangs at corners i deem fuck you

[bold sky]

again fr i think nades in this game suck now that i play it for so long

the radius is so bad its better to bring more ammo and just pre fire the crap out of angles

if you want s then its still mass chemical warfare

if you want fun then theres like no reason to throw a crappy flashbang over just prefiring w your gun

[vague isle]

in all means of honesty

we need more mag sizes like 60

[bold sky]

not to mention 1 flashbang efficient value is not equal to one mag of any given ar

that would be fun if the goal is not to make it a police sim

but bc they are making it a police sim we cant for obvious realistic reason bla bla

[round pagoda]

If you need more ammo your aim is just bad

[bold sky]

i mean just play a mod with like ~100 suspect every map then you'll see that argument becomes valid

[vague isle]

true since I fire at pb if I am being shot at( 9/10 I fuck over the civs other than the enemy )

[bold sky]

this game for realistic reason literally gutted so many guns capable of .300 just bc of the argument that 5.56 is more commonly fielded bc its cheaper and more common

[vague isle]

All I do anyway is repeat the mission and keep changing guns until I understand it now

[bold sky]

like jfc i dont want to feel poor in the game too i alr buy the game

arwc mcx and something else was .300 now they are all just crappy 5.56 clone

[vague isle]

We need more guns and ammo types manr

[round pagoda]

we need another AR-15

[vague isle]

I don't want to use a long ass br in cqb

and a ticklish gun too

[bold sky]

its insane that after all this time arn180 is still technically the best gun since release lol

[wraith basin]

We really need M4A1 for real, though.

[bold sky]

we had a m4

[vague isle]

Should I use it?

[bold sky]

it had extended magazine even

yeah arn180 with jhp for about all map except for clemente hotel and school

[vague isle]

Kinda crazy they added a school ( college )

[bold sky]

those 2 map needs anything w ap but .300 is only op bc jhp goes thru l3 armor

[vague isle]

Which ironically got me hooked

[bold sky]

old m4a1 was actually kinda fire w the extended mag

now that they make it mk18 bc some cringe youtube video was nagging them about how this specific variant of the m4 is mk18 they just make it another 5.56 clone w generic attachments

old m4 has so much more soul in it w attachments and extended mag

[vague isle]

Tbh they should add more attachment options

like the stock and the handle

[bold sky]

they need to fix attachment first

[vague isle]

Wdym?

[bold sky]

no way the grips still dont give any ads speed ever since release

[vague isle]

Fr?

[bold sky]

yes

vertical grip most of the time unless you know if combat grip gives you the right feel

no reason to use the other whatever that gives ads bc no grip gives any ads

[round pagoda]

those dark waters grips look fucking stupid

[bold sky]

they kinda do but they are exotic attachments somewhat ngl

i dont hate on them they just have identical stat to what we already have so they are just clones

actually now that i think about it technically mcx rn is a contender for f90 so i guess thats a bonus

i still think no reason not to use arn180 over both of them but its nice to see the meta gets somewhat challenged

[round pagoda]

weapon stats don't matter, just use what feels good and looks good

[bold sky]

plus ga58 is great and they finally make m14 official

[wraith basin]

Just use what looks good basically.

[bold sky]

for the base game yeah

if you mod it to be extremely violent then min maxing is needed sometimes

and i swear the gunplay in this game is too good to not make the game just a violent shooter

[round pagoda]

like just aim correctly and they all go down in 1-2 shots

[bold sky]

back when the game official released came out and the suspects were uber cracked

the people who find that thrilling are all people who go full auto

everyone else was just complaining about how op the bots were

[wraith basin]

P90 is the only weapon I go full auto with lol

[bold sky]

but thats just a sad true bc in extremely violent situation you do want to kill stuff as fast as possible and take no damage

almost like a battle of attrition bc this game has no reinforcement or recovery system

[vague isle]

Question, what gun can 1-2 tap people and is NOT a BR?

[bold sky]

aside from the old stop bleeding below half hp to gain half hp back

shotgun is what you are looking for

else you have to use 7.62 nato for maps without hp modifier

maps w hp modifier then slugs can still tap them

provided it goes thru their armor that is

[vague isle]

I mean how can you recover in a battle Situation without a medic?

[bold sky]

you can assume you walk to spawn and get someone else in

[vague isle]

most law enforcement do not bring medics along, only after

[bold sky]

thats how the old swat work actually too

[vague isle]

Yeah but you aren't just like gonna go to PD during a mission :/

[bold sky]

that game has a recovery system like that you walk to spawn and just imply that you get a replacement

[vague isle]

If I sound stupid feel free to correct me

[bold sky]

irl obviously half the district police would show up to cases like these

you'll literally have no shortage of manpower especially if someone is wounded

tbf irl now shooters like these are killed by shitty ground drones w explosives attached to a stick rolled up in their faces

[vague isle]

Good thing Ron isn't apart of them

[bold sky]

so this game is already not a real sim in that sense, the whole underbudget police department is a very explanation to why they are so undermanned

[vague isle]

So the explanation as to why we have 4 squad members? ( not including us )

[bold sky]

but i still hate that you cant just call in reinforcement if someone is downed and you have to pick up every gun as evident as if the lesser donut police arent just there to clean that up later

we have 4 squad member bc 5 is the perfect number for a harem is your answer

[vague isle]

also who wouldn't be undermanned if a city is constantly being filled with diabolical crimes

[bold sky]

else i cant figure out why that would be the case

[vague isle]

From what I can tell in videos that I have watched

[bold sky]

if a city is this messed up and cops number are this low i think in the real world military would intervene or there would be some form of coup happening alr

[vague isle]

it's 6, might be inaccurate

[bold sky]

the problem w 6 is then you can have 3 pairs, 5 means theres a clear alpha

[vague isle]

I mean if you could you would've finished the mission by now

[vague isle]

Local Military, not the military itself

If the military is involved it's either cartels, or big shi

[vague isle]

Then 7.

I'm gonna log off for the night, gonna continue elephant when I awake

[autumn wagon]

i got a question, ive seen some people with a pilot helmet? is it a mod or a real thing

[narrow geode]

Mod

[smoky kernel]

Dark waters helmet not a mod

[narrow geode]

We don't have a pilot helmet

[jolly verge]

It's hidden and require a mod to unlock it

[smoky kernel]

Nvm forget i had that mod lmao

[civic sail]

[scarlet flax]

So true. Gun has like 2% damage, lots of bullets, and good armor pen with relatively low recoil.

I also full auto MP9. That thing obliterates suspects with no armor.

You know, when you're not going for an S Rank.

[lilac seal]

hey guys, me and 2 friends are running dorms on S (or at least we are trying). for 3 attempts now we had Bring order to Chaos and Rescue all Civillians and the side objective, but there is always something missing and its only a soft complete. since this happened 3 separate times now we are quite frustrated. is this a common occurance or are we just too blind? we've also spent like 20 minutes searching for the last piece of evidence every time

[scarlet flax]

There's something special in there that I haven't found yet. I always miss it too I think.

Have you gotten the drugs from the church podium at the back side of 2nd floor?

[stone sapphire]

Yes we have

[lilac seal]

this is one of my mates^

[jolly verge]

You cant secure knives dropped from suspects pockets, on both twisted nerve and dorms, you either need swat ai or a mod to remove score evidence

[scarlet flax]

What?

You totally can grab knives from suspects.

[lilac seal]

that makes sense yeah. its a shame that mods dont count towards the score iirc

[jolly verge]

If they dropped from their hands

Not pocket

[jolly verge]

Mods dont affect anything

[scarlet flax]

One of the recent updates made it so Suspects drop everything on the floor once they are compliant. Whatever is in their loadout.

[jolly verge]

This what cause this bug appear with knives

[scarlet flax]

They're not having trouble looking for evidence though. It's taking them awahile but there's a soft objective they are missing.

[jolly verge]

It's fine with every other weapon

[lilac seal]

im not missing the objective, i found it

[stone sapphire]

one thing missing is one weapon/evidence

as indicated by the end score

[scarlet flax]

Oh my bad you said "soft complete"

My dyslexic ass can't read

[lilac seal]

really? okay might try that. i thought installing mods makes scores not count

[jolly verge]

Yeah, check "No Mercy" on nexus, it's has a optional file that removes score for evidence, so you dont need to secure them to get S

[mint falcon]

so when new content.

[stone sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/drachenlord-sunglasses-drache-rainer-winkler-sonnenbrille-gif-14450017

[scarlet flax]

I'm sure in general there's mods that can like, just get around that lol

[limber escarp]

Give it some time

Dark waters didnt come out that long ago

[velvet steeple]

PLEASE people remember that hard mode is hard and not for everyone

[limber escarp]

Huh?

What hard mode

[velvet steeple]

blud does not read the briefings

#announcements message

[limber escarp]

I read the briefings through and through, I was just asking you to elaborate good sir

I havent had a chance to read that yet

[twin ether]

why cant my friend see my lobby on his main menu? it works perfectly for me

[velvet steeple]

yes so I provided it lol

they adding three difficulties

[limber escarp]

Sometimes it wont appear, it also depends on if you can join their game through steam. If you cant join it through steam, then it wont show in-game

[velvet steeple]

already seen a game where people think they’re supposed to be able to dominate the hardest mode (helldivers 2) crying it’s too hard, I hope that don’t happen here

[limber escarp]

That doesnt seem bad, I honestly feel like RON's on Hard Mode already

[velvet steeple]

It’s still not easy but feels far easier than when I used to play it

[limber escarp]

I wonder if its gonna be like SWAT 4 where the higher the difficulty the higher score you have to get to pass

I guess now we can tell people struggling just to lower their difficulty

PLEASE Void pull a metal gear solid and add a chicken hat if they lower the difficulty mid-play through

[covert furnace]

i dont think i like the idea of accuracy changing across difficulties, i dont want to play one mission by myself and think a shot will or wont hit and have that change when i play with a friend or if i feel like lowering the difficulty for something else

i more than understand why its there though

[velvet steeple]

what it feels like right now is what I imagine standard to be, earlier days felt like hard mode, and casual mode not sure what they’ll do there

[velvet steeple]

Pretty sure they’re talking about suspect accuracy

[limber escarp]

I'm kind of in the mix of standard-hard when it comes to the current gameplay, getting one shot through walls seems like a hard difficulty

Well, time to play this game unmodded and see what its all about

[velvet steeple]

They mentioned “reaction time” and “chance to surrender” in that list too, pretty sure they’re not talking about us lol

we don’t have either of those as a stat

[limber escarp]

Im just glad they did something with the AI survey

[velvet steeple]

The closest to easy mode is basically running too negotiators

Even just one ticks it down pretty well

[livid wadi]

is it me or there's RON 3 gb update?

[prisma tusk]

#patch-notes message

[covert furnace]

i may be a smidge thick, ty

[limber escarp]

Its just void collecting player data as a means to make better future content tailored to us players

or is it..?

[oblique garden]

sent straight to FISA /j

[limber escarp]

What is /j

[oblique garden]

just kidding

[limber escarp]

ahh

[novel walrus]

We still haven't fixed multiplayer VO not working? This is a bug since last few updates we already past 1.0 release why does everyone except host still have Judge Voice?

[limber escarp]

Its in the works

Its a known issue, but usually from what I've seen is they make the most of an update by fixing a bunch of issues and releasing it all at once

Saves the pain of having to repeatedly update your game every week

[lime escarp]

Hey everyone just got this a few hours ago and it’s hard

I’m trying to get past the apartment mission

[limber escarp]

RoN is more slow-paced and tactical, take your time and make sure to train on other maps or in the range and try out every single weapon and every single tool to see what fits you best

[novel walrus]

They released a whole new DLC before they even fix this issue its been here for awhile now

[narrow geode]

No voice lines for you

[lime escarp]

Steam had the sale with all the dlc so I picked it up it looks like it unlocks one map at a time so I can only do the gas station and the apartment I haven’t tried the dlc maps yet

[limber escarp]

You're in commander mode

Go back to the main menu, go to singleplayer, then quick play. It unlocks all maps and DLC maps

[lime escarp]

Ok thanks

[sterile dagger]

I'm not sure that's right

[limber escarp]

Commander mode is just team management mode, use quick play to train and get used to the game if you dont care much about map development

[lime escarp]

Waiting for the update to finish

[limber escarp]

??

[sterile dagger]

I've only tried quick play once but I only had the maps I had previously unlocked to choose from

[clever scarab]

its so oddly inconsistent

sometimes i hear my preferred voice sometimes its just judge

[limber escarp]

When did you try it, they changed this

[clever scarab]

one time i got the voice that the host was using while he got judges voice so idek what kind of spaghetti is causing that 😭

[sterile dagger]

like two days ago

[narrow geode]

If you're the host and there is one more player in your lobby
Then you will hear whatever voice you chose

[lime escarp]

My update should be done in a little bit I’ll let you know if I can get all the maps

[bronze grove]

Alright so how big is the new update download and install sizes ?

[limber escarp]

Ohhh I think im getting it mixed up with DLC missions

[lime escarp]

29.3 gun

[limber escarp]

DLC missions unlock in quickplay, but not main missions

[lime escarp]

Gb damn autocorrect

29.3gb for the update

[acoustic kayak]

why game have 120gb update?

[bronze grove]

Install or download ?

[limber escarp]

Huh?

[acoustic kayak]

look at #🎨ron-screenshots-and-art

im asking WTF

[lime escarp]

It just says updating and I’m at 10gb

[limber escarp]

restart your steam

[narrow geode]

You need to complete port from commander mode in order to play dlc maps

[lime escarp]

Does this game update a lot I only have a 256gb hd

[limber escarp]

Im so confused

Wait, no im not, idk anymore

[sterile dagger]

It'll be like 60gb once it's said and done

[acoustic kayak]

still same

[limber escarp]

Its around 60b maximum

So I think your computers having a stroke

[tulip sun]

umm can someone explain to me why telemetry takes a 3.78gb update

[acoustic kayak]

i see now

[limber escarp]

Good question

[acoustic kayak]

it bugged when im trying to instal it showing 60 but in queue showing 120gb

[limber escarp]

Ignore queue

[narrow geode]

Forgot to mention
If you want to play them in commander mode

dlc mission are unlocked in quick play
Though
Im not sure about base levels

[hoary canyon]

whats the 3gb update for? didnt mention that in the briefing

[lime escarp]

Ugh my internet went down for a few minutes so god only knows when this update is going to be finished

[limber escarp]

Void collecting player/game data

Not anything big

[lime escarp]

What are some good mods to get?

[hoary canyon]

3.78gb for this😂

[limber escarp]

Im confused too lol

[frail pier]

Crypto miner included

[limber escarp]

I like to use the No Mercy Mod, No Crack for AI, and a lot of people here use gunfighter. But make sure to look into those as they have specific uses

[lime escarp]

I’m probably just play it vanilla right now and then look at some mods

[limber escarp]

Yeah thats best cause you can see what you wish was different then find a mod for it

[lime escarp]

Ok

I was watching someone play the oil rig map that looks intense

[little hatch]

I hope Hard difficulty will be extremely difficult

[limber escarp]

Me too tbh I need a challenge

[limber escarp]

thats part of the dark waters DLC

[little hatch]

I want Lethal Obsession to be terrifying

[twilit mulch]

isn't it already?

[lime escarp]

Never heard of it

[limber escarp]

You know you could always install an increased suspect/chaos mod

I know theres a mod out there that adds more traps, more suspects, and makes suspect have an even less chance of surrendering/being more hostile

[little hatch]

99% of the time AI mods make changes I don't like

makes the game harder in some aspects but trivially easy in others

[frail pier]

Astrals AI was the best till dark waters broke it

Now we're probably never getting it back. RIP

[gritty vessel]

Any plans on an airport map?

[narrow geode]

No

[gritty vessel]

Damn, would be kinda cool

[lime escarp]

The cartel compound from sicario would be cool

Are all of the maps hostage basically situations?

[eager holly]

whats the new update

3 gigs

[amber dock]

no by defenition they are not

[lime escarp]

Mine is 29 gigs

[narrow geode]

#patch-notes message

[eager holly]

and this sh.t is 3 gb?

[lime escarp]

Ok I’m going to play since the update is done I’ll catch you all later

@limber escarp quick play only enables you to play the maps you’ve unlocked through commander mode

[narrow geode]

Now we know

[lime escarp]

But it does let you play the dlc missions

[rapid canopy]

Yo did they update the game?

like today

[narrow geode]

#patch-notes message

[rapid canopy]

thanks

[warped canyon]

Can anyone explain how to change the difficulty ? I updated the game, but didn't find any options for that.

[narrow geode]

#💬general-discussion message

[amber dock]

It's not in yet

[warped canyon]

Such a big update and it's in the update-news, but not in game yet ? 😮

[little hatch]

Rust Belt

[wraith basin]

🦈

[narrow geode]

🦈🦈

[little hatch]

🦈

[amber dock]

it never said it was coming today

[shell trellis]

I hope they add back the old carriers of the vine map back in as a different map it was so good

[amber dock]

there is a modder that plans to add back all old maps but it's gonna take some time. They've already added old hotel and gas station IIRC

[shell trellis]

I don't really mind the old hotel being gone as it was pretty barebones

[frail pier]

2 different versions of hotel, 2020 gas, Night and day old farm, and soon to be port.

[shell trellis]

I actually think the new map is an improvement

[warped canyon]

And where can I find what is in the update ?

[amber dock]

#patch-notes

[warped canyon]

Oh, ok. Thanks. Didn't see it.^^

[brave kayak]

finnaly some difficulty options. Is the AI fixed?

[amber dock]

no

[brave kayak]

perfect...

[narrow geode]

Difficulty options have not been added yet

[languid shadow]

i am in this martinez map and i dont know what im missing

like i hear shots but i literally cleared everything

[narrow geode]

?
Which mission is that

[languid shadow]

This one

[languid shadow]

dms

[brave kayak]

then what the fuck ? then when

[narrow geode]

Idk

[wide kraken]

[scarlet flax]

Oy what's with the 60.6Gb update for RoN? Is it just the metrics gathering?

Can't find anything other than that in the announcements and recent changelog.

[narrow geode]

#patch-notes message

[sinful sapphire]

yo, do you guys have the problem that the music of the game starts to play the full track once the fight is already over?

[tepid wigeon]

I was just about to ask that. And my internet connection is so slow today 😭

[covert furnace]

what was supposed to be a 3.7gb patch for some reason turns into a 60gb patch and now a 30gb update, lotta stuff on steam is doing this now

[tacit gull]

unreal moment

actually its not even unreal its just ron lmao

[scarlet flax]

Interesting.

[stable kernel]

Your per update reminder that the download size is not the same as the file patch size

It is only downloading when it says “downloading”

“Patching/installing” is not the same thing

Or “verifying”

[shy tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-gif-24048347

[civic sail]

would it be a viable strategy to place a lit candle on my head while I play so the pain of the wax sharpens my reflexes and produces adrenaline

[stable kernel]

No, please do not put yourself at risk of physical harm as well as potential property destruction

[real bison]

You already know eman had yes typed out but saved himself

[stable kernel]

Libelous accusations

[tacit gull]

e man wanting the meta strats all to himself

[stable kernel]

wat

[grave crown]

how to change hard mode?

[edgy linden]

Switch to soft mode.

[grave crown]

funny

[wraith arrow]

3.6 GB Update?

[humble mauve]

#patch-notes

no actual update, just background telemetry

[wraith arrow]

Thx

Pretty funny that Ready Or Not and GTA V had some update at the same time xd

[lost inlet]

Can someone give me a short debrief on the latest newsletter?

[shy tulip]

They will be adding difficulty options in the future, improved their ability to gather data on what maps players use, how long, etc., and talked about how they made oil rig.

[edgy linden]

When can I have tactical lmgs base game

[cedar parrot]

Stoner LAMG when?

[vague isle]

stupid question, does grade affect team peformance? or just nothing?

[lost inlet]

I assume the easiest option is the current AI and the harder ones are just worse.

[vague isle]

anyone know the b omb locations in elephant?

[tacit storm]

It's randomized, it can be in random rooms or open segments of the map.

[vague isle]

basically outside and inside?

[covert furnace]

@ aspidzeus, he'll probs know everywhere they can spawn

[vague isle]

i aint pinging him though

[covert furnace]

im sure google has the answers then

[vague isle]

got 2 bombs

i died

why didnt my ai team shoot like DUDE

HE WAS INFRONT OF YOU HOW DO YOU HAVE A REACTION TIME OF A DRUNK TURTLE

[covert furnace]

welcome to swat ai, if you start going for s rank youll get very familiar with how terrible they are

especially prescott

fuckin hate prescott

[fathom laurel]

help!! I bought ready or not today but I'm unsure whether the main mode that I should start with is Commander or Quick Play. what should I progress in for my first game ever?

[knotty rune]

Hey, if I buy the DLC, can friends without it play with me?

[shy tulip]

Yes

[shy tulip]

That is up to you, commander mode has additional mechanics you can read up on in-game

[knotty rune]

Ohh but I need to be the one host the game to play the DLC map together?

[shy tulip]

Yep

[knotty rune]

Aightt, thankss

[modest snow]

How do I verify or whatever cause in the supporter dlc it said I get access to the supporter discord

[shy tulip]

#👋welcome

[royal iris]

Have the Devs said anything about letting us rebind RShift and Left mouse

Anyone heard anything I've has to switch to a controler for this game

[robust yarrow]

What was the update for?

[jolly verge]

#patch-notes message

[sharp sparrow]

Game modes = better replay ability, and harder mission variety.

Difficulty slider = worse community skill level, more split community…

I see absolutely no positive effect from a Difficulty selector.

[restive wadi]

Hello, is possible to get 100 % steam achievements sólo? I am interested of this game, but I prefer solo play, thx for reply

[jolly verge]

Yes

[robust yarrow]

Thanks

[sharp sparrow]

Yes, most can be aced through a Nonlethal Commander mode (alt f4 is friend ).
There are a few that will be easier in coop, but still doable in Solo.

[restive wadi]

thank you

[narrow geode]

Difficulty options have not been added yet

[sharp sparrow]

Correct and they shouldn’t at all be added is the point.

They want difficulty options give us Game Modes, this will be vastly better and help improve the game as a whole. Where difficulty options in a game where a set difficulty is valued way more, will only hurt both the community and the game. It’s like adding difficulty to dark souls, game doesn’t need it, setting a standard difficulty with game modes far out-ways every con from difficulty selecting.

( We were told game modes don’t fit the story… yet difficulty options would? “In reference to what the Dark souls dev said, a standard experience everyone can share in is more important.” )

Talking about separating the community through difficulty options, rather than adding game mode variety to the limited gameplay at hand. This isn’t payday where having 8 difficulty improves the gaming experience it will actually make the experience worse.

The game is about teamwork and working together in Near Impossible odds that are unrealistic, allowing players to lower the difficulty means the skill base is now lower, means teamwork suffers, it’s bad to do as you loss the skill celling that is a standard.

[robust yarrow]

Honestly nobody asked for difficulty options

[tacit gull]

You'd be surprised lmao

[alpine void]

do u know what i would like in multiplayer and quick play the option to select what type of encountering u get on maps what i mean is you select to have traps on random maps, enemies can be selected to carry armour or heavier weapons or the opposite, being able to activate active shooters on some maps, adding bomb defusals and such on some maps. I mean if i could do this i would make the game a living nightmare for me and my friends

[tacit gull]

I don't agree with them either, but here we are

[sharp sparrow]

Not being rude or mean by voicing my opinion, we have sat far too long silent, to not be heard. Nothing has changed since EA as far as gameplay additions, and now we get Difficulty, which is a bad thing, when the outcry is the Readding of Game Modes… Difficulty won’t bring people back, but game modes sure will! A coop commander mode would. Difficulty is a bad thing and will only hurt the game. Where game modes are good.

[tacit gull]

Coop commander mode wouldn't really add much, the goofy ass perks in commander are basically to compensate for your entire AI team not being equivalent to one other player

[sharp sparrow]

There’s a few ways to switch that up for skills on players xp on character so if you die your reset, having to manage restricted inventory…. Making the story into an actual story progression would be quite nice as you don’t experience any of the story at all in MP you don’t even get it as a choice, your stuck with what ever expansion is currently out as the HQ. ( the HQ slowly progressing is good in campaign, but then it has no coop so no point bothering other than Alt F4 grinding…

The biggest issue the game has is a heavy lack of replay ability, there is absolutely 2 ways to play, go loud kill, S rank nonlethal.

Game modes added variety and replayability to mix up the rng more, coop commander mode would add worth to the campaign as a whole… difficulty selection does nothing but reduce the skill celling making the overall player-base worse.

[tacit gull]

The thing is that commander mode doesn't have almost any of those things, if you wanna do ironman with a friend just do the maps in order and restart if one of you dies, simple

Also, some of the modes you speak of were just terrible (and they still are)

[sharp sparrow]

MP is hard stuck in expansion HQ Look and has same audio around the map, Campaign has specific audio and HQ tied to beating each level over time.

[tacit gull]

On some maps certain modes made almost no differrence other than adding more suspects

[sharp sparrow]

More suspect is more fun, more rng, never knowing how many there are actually there or where they are grouped up at. More suspects is a fine addition. Barricade ment they were grouped up and watching doors, Hostages ment there were more hostages, active shooter ment you had to rush and stop them, bomb adds a Bomb, these things were fantastic. There removal for sake of How they don’t go with story when you have a dedicated story mode was wild to say only to say hey difficulty options.

[tacit gull]

That's not how any of those modes worked at all, hostage rescued just meant if you were spotted once you would basically fail the mission since the ai would seek out the hostages to kill, it was absolutely terrible

[humble mauve]

gruntr (gratr) explained that it fitting the story was just a piece of the puzzle for removal of modes

[tacit gull]

I feel like the story is the absolute LEAST of the problems that created, i don't think anyone gives a single shit that it "Doesn't really make sense for a couple of robbers to bring bombs into a gas station"

[humble mauve]

some of the modes flat out sucked, many of the maps at the time had entirely different layouts based off the mode, which if we assume that all 5 modes were on all 1.0 maps would be about 90 different maps that would each need to be individually laid out for AI and general playability

among other things

[alpine void]

i have 85 hrs in ready or not 8 mins is probably the story mode

[tacit gull]

The only modes that were cool were those that just gave you essentially an entire different map to play

[humble mauve]

gruntr explains it in more detail here https://www.reddit.com/r/ReadyOrNotGame/comments/1hu2oo8/comment/m5kxm5v/

thanks for auto embedding that big ahh message with nothing in it discord

very cool

[tacit gull]

Hotel Raid and bomb defusal were great

However port hostage rescue was bad just because hostage rescue SUCKED

[humble mauve]

oh my god that one

literally pitch black

[tacit gull]

lol try not getting spotted here buddy

It would also trigger suspects if they just HEARD you

So it was just try to engage the suspects before they can actually move away

[humble mauve]

a lot of times there would be a suspect on the hostages too so as soon as you were detected they were dead

[tacit gull]

Active shooter too, while actually being active shooter was also terrible because that just doesn't work with the scoring system

At all

[humble mauve]

would be neat if it disabled the scoring system but I could see how that could be confusing

not having an established system for like 2 missions

[tacit gull]

They are special missions

Especially when one is supposed to be a tribute to people who go through such things, it would kind of help it to not suck

Talked to someone and they suggested the scoring on elephant to just be a time attack, which makes sense and would have suspects actually doing something other than idling right next to civilians lmao

You can't save them all, that should be the entire point

[pale crest]

60GB update on steam, is that right???

[alpine void]

3 gb update rest is rewriting files

[prime wing]

buddy

best I can do is a C

skill issue!

[tacit gull]

I can just imagine TOC saying that to judge as he drops on his knees in front of the people he couldn't save

[mint swan]

Are cqb tactics actually effective in this game

[covert furnace]

the tons of 'navy seal/marine/some other tactical profession plays ready or not and destroys it!' videos out therevwould make me think so

[tacit gull]

In some places yes, in others... eh...

You are kind of expected to go out of your way to take people in

[patent night]

All we got with a 3.5 gb update is player info tracking💀

[covert furnace]

patch, not update, makes it slightly better

[tacit gull]

Atleast it's not the mod io update which basically added nothing since modio didnt work

[patent night]

Both of those things are true xD

Oh my b, I see we also get tp make the game easier now too xD aside from loading the shit outta it with mods lol

[sterile pecan]

hey if im going for the no officers dead in ironman achievement, does the paramedic help if an officer gets killed? like do i still get it?

[narrow geode]

No

[sterile pecan]

ok so ill fire the paramedics, firing officers is good right?

[narrow geode]

#👮ron-discussion message

[jolly verge]

That help only for dev watch run

[jolly verge]

Yes, you can fire them

[narrow geode]

Doesn't that increase stress or something

[jolly verge]

Yes, just a bit

and there is a cap stress for firing

[tacit gull]

You can fire officers? I thought you had to lose none of them

[jolly verge]

[spring knoll]

istg people who say they miss the gamemode selectors never actually played with them

they were pretty ass

[tacit gull]

You had the one mode that played best on that map and then the modes that were just put in as an afterthought, it never really felt right outside of the missions which had specific areas for them

[full vale]

if i own the dark waters dlc does my friend need to

[tacit gull]

No

Atleast for the maps

[full vale]

yeah thats what i meant

thanks

[indigo arrow]

the update has crashed my game

I can't download it

I had to uninstall it

[narrow geode]

Cant release an update without problems

[upbeat shore]

"crashed my game" and "can't download it" are two very different things

[indigo arrow]

my bad. I'm to tired to think. it mainly just doesn't download and now I'm stuck at 101% download completion and it won't download.

I tried to uninstall it but it didn't work so I had to restart my PC and do it

then I managed to uninstall it

I reinstalled it which is working fine now

[serene perch]

Guys, i got my brother RoN im boutta cause mayhem with him

[twilit mulch]

we're happy for you, enjoy the game

[agile smelt]

@gaunt gale question; is judge married or no? because my friend is betting me 10$ xd

and if he has kids too xd

[civic sail]

he doesnt look married

[copper silo]

well he doesnt have a ring

bt som people say the names on the bracelet are his kids

[alpine void]

oh he is definitely married just like i am definitely married

[dapper birch]

guys is there new guns in the dark waters DLC ?

[civic sail]

ya

[thorny perch]

DLC guns come free

[dapper birch]

ok tnx . do the new missions worth it?

[civic sail]

ya

[thorny perch]

I dont even know

[alpine void]

i bought them and i like them is it worth i dunno i bought cause i knew i was gonna play it with my friend and i havent finished it yet cause we havent been able to play

the question is why are u buying them for yourself or for your friends

[kind spear]

how many mb does ready or not need to be installed?

[limber escarp]

RoN is around 60 something GB, however much you have will depend on your download speed

[kind spear]

alr do you know where it lists in on steam so i could see

[limber escarp]

When you download ready or not it will tell you the speed its downloading at in the library or in the downlaod queue, or you can do an internet speed test online

If you have good internet itll take 30 minutes, meh internet will take around an hour

[kind spear]

hmm

im asking bc idk if i have enough space

[alpine void]

then it wont install if u dont have space

check your storage on ur PC

[limber escarp]

If you dont have 60+ GB in the drive where your steam games download, then it wont download

[kind spear]

alr

[alpine void]

its recommended to not full ur storage though cause that will cause issues

[kind spear]

yea

im almost full

[limber escarp]

I try and keep at least 100

[kind spear]

:/

[limber escarp]

You should uninstall games you dont play anymore/arent interested in at the moment

[alpine void]

but if you go to steam go right down to the bottom where ut has the recommned specs and min specs their it will say everything u need

[kind spear]

alr

i dont think i can download it

[alpine void]

why?

[kind spear]

wait

i think i messed up

just checked i got more than enough space

[alpine void]

you need to give context if u want ppl to help so next time dont say u think u cant and not say why

[kind spear]

i thought i was reading mb not gb

yh it was my fault

[alpine void]

well u need to make sure that you have at least 40 to 60 gb of free space after u install RON

[kind spear]

alr

ty again

[split elk]

So like

What's the new update about. Just tracking metrics?

[strange depot]

would be great to get communication about why the game is updating... :/

[raven schooner]

#patch-notes

[civic sail]

read da dev log

[fallow cypress]

The illuminnatii (Ready or Not) tracking how many civillians I kill

I am Gerards strongest soldiers

[tropic jetty]

why is my hud going in the corner (whenever i change grenade type)

[limber escarp]

Its a known issue, if it persists just restart the game

[tropic jetty]

alrighty

[sterile dagger]

would mods make me ineligible for achievements? just looking to run missions in chronological order for ironman runs

[limber escarp]

Nah

[sterile dagger]

sweet 👍

[fervent terrace]

Imagine a map in a prison like a riot or a hostage situation in a prison

[civic sail]

I'm imagining it

[gloomy briar]

Need a dlc map that’s just an abandoned cia black site

[alpine void]

imagine a map in an airport terminal or train station or a map in a mall with 3 levels and many hostages

[tawny burrow]

Dark Waters takes care of that with the Yacht map

[alpine void]

i would have preferred a cargo ship map like you are going in to rescue ppl from pirates not that the yacht is bad

[gloomy briar]

In that mansion map in the hime invasion dlc it showed the oil rig that you go on in Leviathan, and also a cargo ship. Might allude to smth

[alpine void]

yeah but we dont have a cargo ship map

do u know what might be fun a courthouse or townhall map and they can connect it to the Vet organisation

[limber escarp]

Im a little stumped on why 3 lettter triad was a dark waters mission, cause I thought it was just gonna be aquatic/amphibious type levels

The yacht which is a boat on water, the oil rig which is on water, then an abandoned resort

[vocal osprey]

home invasion DLC worth it???

[fervent terrace]

Yes both dlcs worth it they are top tier content

[narrow geode]

lame maps

[limber escarp]

You