fusions

[rapid wind]

Ah thought it was chandelures head thing

Nvm

[wild spruce]

• necrozma or gigalit with the arm crystals

[flat glen]

Do self fusion also have a boost of sort or are they literally one mon for the price of two? (or the opposite, if you catch them in the wild)

[mint shard]

Nah, self fusions don't get boosts

All the type exception mons listed in #fusion-faq become monotype but that's about it I think

[rustic finch]

and there were mons that got their mega typing or regional form types

[mint shard]

I'm wondering if that's still a thing or not, I've heard conflicting stuff about that

I know the calc lists Gyarados as Water/Dark but I'm wondering if that's still the case in-game or not

[granite blaze]

Some self fusions will become mono type of they only provide one type

[mint shard]

Aight, it seems he does change to mega typing. Atleast in v4.9, idk about v5 but I'd assume it's still like that

So yeah, if you have a pokemon that changes types with their mega, then that's a bonus too. Charizard still becomes mono fire though, no dragon typing for him like that

[bitter birch]

fire/dragon zard would be busted in non-competitive lmao

prolly for the best

[mint shard]

Well I mean

You can get a fire/dragon zard by fusing him with a dragon, he'd probably have even better stats and movepool than a self-fusion that way too

[bitter birch]

yeah but i mean if vanilla mons had that

as it is it'd probably be fine imo

not like the self fusion does anything for its like 1 dragon move

[faint storm]

It would be nice if they got some kind of extra boost, like +1 on all stats or something

[bitter birch]

even +5 all base stats would be fine tbh...

[mint shard]

They used to get a 10% boost to all their stats in the earliest versions of the game

[faint storm]

10% may be too much

[bitter birch]

a fair few mons would get pretty damn good with +5 speed

[mint shard]

I believe boosts were removed because Frogman decided that it would encourage you to use self-fusions instead of regular ones, which is fair. I suppose a small boost like what you guys suggest wouldn't hurt, but at the end of the day the primary idea is to fuse other dudes together, I suppose

[faint storm]

I get that. Honestly, if I designed this game, I wouldn't have self-fusions at all. But there's some great artwork that gets zero use

[bitter birch]

i have to wonder how much of a challenge no fusions would be

[mint shard]

Probably not much challenge. Default pokemon are more specialized in their stat distributions so they end up doing certain things better than fusions

[flat glen]

Most fusions don't raise stats unless you happen to have busted fusion materials available in heaps, so I'd guess just nabbing the really good solid mons wouldn't make a no fusions playthrough overly challenging

[bitter birch]

darn

props to whoever made weezing/charizard btw, it's real clever

might use the twin head idea myself 👀

[mint shard]

@vivid bay

[vivid bay]

eyo thanks i stole it from xillos collab with mammuth

[rustic finch]

true

that poggers dude

[mint shard]

[flat glen]

Oh wow, that looks so cool! Even the reverse one is really nice :D

I do think Weezing makes for a really interesting fusion material in general

Sprite-wise and combat-wise as well, with Levitate and stats and a decent movepool to boot

[mint shard]

Weezing's pretty cool. It gets bonus points for being one of the few good poison types that you can use in this game for fusions

[bitter birch]

weezing/alakazam

or i guess the reverse for better stats

psychic/flamethrower/sludge bomb is scary coverage

[flat glen]

One thing that really confuses me though is how here on the discord and also many times in the game the fusions are listed as head-body, but you select them as body-head when you fuse them

[mint shard]

A lot of people get confused by that at first and it totally got me too

[flat glen]

It made for a very trippy first trip to the Viridian academy

[bitter birch]

58/95/80 is pretty good bulk considering 118 special attack

also 76 attack if you're feeling funny

[flat glen]

Plus an immunity for free switch ins. What's the base speed?

[bitter birch]

80

which isnt great but not that bad either

not like you're playing competitive

competitive meta for a game like this would be nuts...

[mint shard]

A good weezing fusion off the top of my head is Umbreon/Weezing. Good bulk + no weaknesses due to levitate

[bitter birch]

god yeah

doesnt weezing also have explosion access

[mint shard]

I think so

[bitter birch]

weezing also has a lot of good support to compliment umbreon's...

pain split, will o wisp, i think haze is something umbreon doesnt have as well?

[mint shard]

Doesn't seem like it

But Weezing has it

Oh, wait I misread

Yeah you're right

[bitter birch]

i wonder what a good flareon fusion is

flareon's held back by bad speed+movepool

[mint shard]

Speed is probably not something a fusion will solve, but indeed it'll benefit a lot from other pokemon's movepools

[bitter birch]

not unless i go full ninjask and give it speed boost

flareon/ninjask has 103 atk and 128 speed with speed boost...

[mint shard]

Lol, well it could work indeed. Just uh, don't send it against a rock type

[bitter birch]

i mean talonflame did fine before gale wings got nerfed

[mint shard]

Talonflame does have a little more bulk going for it, but yes this guy would do fine

[bitter birch]

think no brave bird hurts though

wait does flareon have flare blitz access

since gen 5 movepools

[mint shard]

Unfortunately it seems like it doesn't

[bitter birch]

forgor ninjask has swords dance as well

can we add an exception flareon's best fire move is FIRE FANG otherwise

u turn access is really good at this speed

[mint shard]

Indeed

[bitter birch]

you could also run a meme build with agility flame charge baton pass

maybe swords dance as well

[mint shard]

That's an option too. For this game specifically I think pokemon benefit a lot more if they can hold their own instead of buffing your other dudes, but if you want to juice up one of your slower mons you can totally do that

[bitter birch]

stunned that aerodactyl has no head smash

at least it has edgequake

[round sentinel]

someone explain to me whats up with this caterpie....

[bitter birch]

self fusion

[round sentinel]

double caterpie?

[bitter birch]

mhm

[round sentinel]

thank you!

[bitter birch]

some have custom sprites

those with megas tend to use mega designs/sprites

wait wobba/flareon might be good...

shadow tag is really helpful

[flat glen]

Patching up that movepool with wobbuffett's

[bitter birch]

more like abusing shadow tag to delete grass and steels

and destiny bond if things get dicey

wobba/shedinja would be insane in competitive actually

you'd have to guess between wonder guard and shadow tag

guess wrong and die

(or just use a dark/ghost move but shh )

[flat glen]

Does the AI switch much in this game usually?

[bitter birch]

no idea actually

[granite blaze]

Gym leaders 7/8 and the E4 do switch sometimes, generally one switch per two battles (4.9)

[round sentinel]

are there online battles to play against friends?

[flat glen]

One switch per... Two battles?

[granite blaze]

averages

[hidden bison]

bro the marochocke is crying

[plain holly]

I have to make Cubone/Kangaskhan's evo since I made the pre-evo a really long time ago

[bitter birch]

:(

[round sentinel]

having the ability safeguard does it onlywork for physical attacks?

[fluid karma]

That’s not an ability, and it prevents status conditions

[forest crest]

How do you have fancy font

[drifting kelp]

HOLY SHIT WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT

[plain holly]

I only did one of them!

||Giovanni uses it in his modern mode team afaik ||

[hallow kindle]

If you murdered only once, I guess it's fine

[quaint hatch]

would that make the mega a necromancer

[drifting kelp]

That is an amazing idea

[faint storm]

XD

[granite blaze]

In case you want to defeat the champion with the power of anime

[fluid karma]

The power of despair

https://tenor.com/view/monokuma-laughter-gif-22810216

[faint storm]

with the power of anime at my side, nothing can stop me

[fluid karma]

Too bad she's the first person who gets killed in the first game

Doesn't bode well for you

[faint storm]

spoilers!

[faint storm]

I HAVE QUESTIONS

[thorny swan]

"you failed the vibe check"

[faint storm]

XD

[frank lion]

miltank/deoxys is a treat

[bitter birch]

hm. don't like that

[frank lion]

whichever lovely people made the miltank fusions are credited in my nightmares now

except miltank/aipom. they can stay

[bitter birch]

-worthy fusion

also spiritomb/xatu and cofagrigus/haxorus are there now

[flat glen]

I've taken a stroll down that lane and they're definitely something

[bitter birch]

if y'all need a surprising palette cleanser, muk/kangaskhan is very good

[frank lion]

lopunny/kangaskhan also extremely wholesome

[bitter birch]

yeah but that one's obvious cute (still very cute ofc)

[frank lion]

not to discredit people who make “uncomfortable” sprites! they’re all still very good and excel at their job lol

[bitter birch]

oh for sure

[flat glen]

Now if only I was able to spell khangaskhan in the search bar /s

[bitter birch]

fwiw i like all the custom miltank fusions

[frank lion]

sometimes abomination fusions exist and that’s valid. pretty much like the galar fossil mons

we love a little abominations

[bitter birch]

blissey/slaking is great

both design-wise and power-wise

serene grace on a mon with a lot of moves to abuse it (p sure slaking has body slam access)

[frank lion]

yeah I haven’t even considered all the mons competitive-wise

some crazy stuff

[bitter birch]

a lot of them are average or even fairly weak but like

[flat glen]

Poliwhirl / Kangaskhan just gave me the will to go back to work 💖

[bitter birch]

blissey/slaking has 220/70/111 bulk with 110 attack and decent speed for good messure

most of all you get rid of truant

[frank lion]

freed from the truant chains

[bitter birch]

now imagine azumarill/slaking that got huge power...

123 base attack, doubled up

personally still trying to find a good flareon fusion

ninjask is closest

103 atk 128 speed, speed boost access

if flareon got better than fire fang i'd be set

[faint storm]

I found that one and instantly died

[bitter birch]

i need a mon that can patch up flareon's speed and movepool issues

maybe aerodactyl...

108 speed is good, 113 attack is good, has edgequake access

[noble cipher]

get one that has the sunny day passive?

[bitter birch]

that's like

groudon/ninetales

[modern walrus]

Spoopy

Wait why choose Flareon anyway

[bitter birch]

torkoal also has drought access but not in the game iirc

[noble cipher]

cause they just want flareon

[bitter birch]

look at my profile pic gksngkdngo

[modern walrus]

Fair

[noble cipher]

i see colors

[modern walrus]

Dam I didn't notice

[bitter birch]

idk i just wanna do a special flareon fusion

[noble cipher]

no shape

on your pfp

[modern walrus]

To much color not enough Flareon

[bitter birch]

ok fair pan flag kinda in the way of the smiling flareon

[noble cipher]

i cant stop thinking of just a normal frying pan when i read pan

[modern walrus]

Anyhoot I think a good Flareon fusion would be Venusaur

[bitter birch]

kfkgkfjgjsifk

[noble cipher]

just a pan blocking flareon right there xD

[modern walrus]

Same

[bitter birch]

venusaur fusion custom sprite already exists

[faint storm]

aerodactyl is always good to add speed and attack. Or you can go the otherway and make a tanky flareon

[noble cipher]

you can make another one

[modern walrus]

Well yes

[noble cipher]

its not not allowed to make your own fusion of an existing one

for others it just goes in the custom folder tho

[modern walrus]

There's also um um um

Grass type pokemon

:eee:

[noble cipher]

sunflora

[bitter birch]

i could do sunflora maybe...

jdjgndj

[modern walrus]

But sunflora kinda mid

Imo

[faint storm]

sunflora is garbage pokemon

[bitter birch]

so is flareon strength-wise

[modern walrus]

Naw

Flareon cool

[noble cipher]

i mean, i'd just choose a pokemon i like

[faint storm]

flareon is much better then sunflora

[modern walrus]

Trueee

[thorny swan]

me sitting here with my raichu/sunflora

[faint storm]

rattata is much better then sunflora

lol

[bitter birch]

sunflora/flareon is a hell of a combo though...

[modern walrus]

Hear me out

Ok hear me out

[bitter birch]

111/101 offenses with solar power access

[modern walrus]

Fuse Flareon with Mewtwo

[faint storm]

no offence to people who like sunflora, I just hate the bugger

lol

[thorny swan]

fuse huge power azumarill with anything

[modern walrus]

True

Wait better idea

[bitter birch]

just use a broken legendary why didnt i think of that

[faint storm]

XD

[noble cipher]

azumarill isnt a pretty body fusion tho

[modern walrus]

Fuse Flareon with Flareon

[faint storm]

LOL

[noble cipher]

no stat changes then tho

[bitter birch]

FLOOFIER

[faint storm]

genious

[modern walrus]

Exactly

Who needs stats lmao

[bitter birch]

yes but floofier

[modern walrus]

Stats are for nerds

[faint storm]

flareon is perfect as is, no need to add other pokemon

[thorny swan]

if you fuse slaking does it force truant onto it

[faint storm]

nope

[modern walrus]

No

[thorny swan]

[bitter birch]

we discussed blissey/slaking

[faint storm]

truant-free slaking is something i need to try

[modern walrus]

Hear me out

[bitter birch]

and azumarill/slaking with huge power

[modern walrus]

Fuse Slaking with Slaking

[faint storm]

no. fuse flareon with slaking

[modern walrus]

Nothing changes execpt he's more lazier and fatter

Truant lasts for TWO turns if Slaking self fuses

[faint storm]

lol

big brain moment

[modern walrus]

Exactly

[thorny swan]

slaking and shedinja

[bitter birch]

that custom sprite exists

[modern walrus]

Death

[faint storm]

I fused slakoff with snorlax a while ago. I need to use it one day

[bitter birch]

1 hp for 100 base hp or skipping turns though

[modern walrus]

Hear me out

Porygon-Z

Fused with

Um

Um

Um

[faint storm]

i mean, you're immune to everything but dark

[modern walrus]

Um

[faint storm]

yes?

[modern walrus]

I forgor

[faint storm]

pfft

[modern walrus]

Wait I remebr

Porygon-Z and Golduck

[modern walrus]

Nothing stat wise just two ducks making a cool fusion

[bitter birch]

wow no custom sprite for double ducks...

[modern walrus]

Woooow

[faint storm]

look at em

[modern walrus]

Nobody thought of the grand masterpiece

Smh

[thorny swan]

i like how the beldum double is just metang

[bitter birch]

2 metang is just metagross also

[faint storm]

slaking/slaking

[modern walrus]

But what about two Metagross?

What does that make?

[thorny swan]

mega metagross?

[modern walrus]

Good point

TWO MEGA METAGROSS

[bitter birch]

2 magneton is 6 magnemite

[faint storm]

you can't fuse 4 pokemon

[modern walrus]

Now we're getting somewhere

[modern walrus]

Wow

[thorny swan]

two mega metagross would restart the darkest day and kill arceus

[faint storm]

XD

[modern walrus]

Let's try it

Guys guess what

[thorny swan]

you’re mad and i’m not?

[modern walrus]

Chicken butt

[bitter birch]

blaziken butterfree for chicken butt(erfree)

[thorny swan]

we need to fuse blaziken with the pokemon that has the biggest butt.

[faint storm]

hol on, I got u

two mega metagrosses

[faint storm]

so slaking

[thorny swan]

i looked up the answer on google and it gave me nothing useful but the first image results were castform and feraligatr so… feraligatr i guess?

[faint storm]

i...you are a brave person

Side note, this is one of my favorite sprites

I can't stop seeing a peter griffin face on the egg

[bitter birch]

holy crap lois this is worse than that time i broke like an egg

[faint storm]

lol

[bitter birch]

ok i have a fun flareon fusion idea but i wanna keep it secret

[flat glen]

Is it empoleon?

[faint storm]

you must share

[noble cipher]

this is the one that insprited me to make a shellder version

[bitter birch]

i will when i make the sprite and post it to #spriting-discussion

[faint storm]

I LOVE IT

[faint storm]

:o

[spice bluff]

should get doubled truant, cant do anything any turn

[frosty steeple]

anyone know a cool looking lucario fusion

[bitter birch]

a lot of the custom lucario ones are good

ninjask/lucario's cool-looking

[flat glen]

Lucario/Kingler looks awesome

[frank lion]

electivire, aegislash, cofagrigus look pretty sweet with lucario

[frosty steeple]

i would have an aegislash but i cant find a dusk stone

[frank lion]

dusk stones are available to purchase before the e4 ||goldenrod department store||

[dark holly]

Torterra

[fluid karma]

I just realized I’ve only made one Lucario sprite, and it’s a Jojo reference too

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/543958354377179176/690750158345994271/296.329.png

[dark holly]

What is the reference?

[grave heron]

We can never escape jojo its everywhere

[grave heron]

I think its anubis

[dark holly]

I see

[frosty steeple]

new team

[mint shard]

Pretty cool

[frosty steeple]

what can gabite fuse well with btw

[rustic finch]

Depends if you want it to be head or body

Dragon/steel is a cool type to have

[frosty steeple]

body

[rustic finch]

Water/ground then is great

[frosty steeple]

i need a cooler ground typing

gyarados torterra looks goofy

[thorny swan]

you could do dragon/bug. there's an unused typing

[mint shard]

If you don't want to use your torterra dude anymore, Gyarados/Garchomp is a pretty cool option for a water/ground

[frosty steeple]

i hope it looks good bc gyarados gabite doesnt

[frosty steeple]

oh nice

definitely training up gabite then

[frank lion]

dang cool fellas

[flat glen]

So if fusing with giratina gives you a Tina and fusing with volcarona gives you a 'Rona (as in short for "Sharona"), does this work with any other pokemon?

I know there's no Karen (sadly?)

[quaint hatch]

ora

https://c.tenor.com/bxnj9XPeMX0AAAAd/pokemon-metagross.gif

[faint storm]

YES

[dark holly]

Wait that happend in the anime?!

[quaint hatch]

dk if it was an imagination or "movie'' sequence or something but yeah

[dark holly]

Neat

[formal tulip]

I think it was part of the alain mini series not 100% sure

it is the xy(z) series that I know for certain

[frosty steeple]

what is this and how do i use it btw

i wanna see fusions before i do them

[frank lion]

https://aegide.github.io/

fusion calculator

[fluid karma]

Also it’s pinned

[spice bluff]

going for a dark type fusion with a shedinja body is probably quite strong, right?

[faint storm]

yup

[granite blaze]

Dark and Steel are really good with shedinja

Fairy is rarer but steel is immune to toxic and sandstorm

[faint storm]

steel is weak to fire tho

[thorny swan]

normal and dark are great fusions with shedinja's ghost-half if you're going wonder guard

[granite blaze]

Steel/Bug

[faint storm]

what's the point of shedinja if you're not using wonderguard tho

[thorny swan]

exactly.

for ghost/dark shedinja the docs recommend absol, for normal i say go arceus

[faint storm]

I used hydrogen for mine

[thorny swan]

hydrogen

[faint storm]

spelling is hard

Hydreigon

[flat glen]

Is Imposter in the game? Because if so, something like Blissey/Ditto might be quite fun to toy around with

[mint shard]

It is yeah, you'd need to catch a HA Ditto

[rapid wind]

theres also hidden ability capsules

idk how to get them though without randomizer mode

i just know they exist because i found some in randomizer

[mint shard]

I have no idea either tbh. I've heard it might be somewhere around Crimson City but not too sure

[rapid wind]

i did some searching and hmm this is interesting

its all the way in 2020 though

so its possible that its different now

[mint shard]

That message pre-dates this game's inclusion of HAs, so idk. That'd be referring to regular ability capsules which I'm not sure if they're the same thing or not. Never got far enough to find out about that stuff

[spice bluff]

I think that might be a suggestion for a feature, as opposed to a notation on a feature

english is vague, i guess

[obtuse magnet]

looks like a kamen rider

[hidden bison]

I'd watch that season

[obtuse magnet]

what?

[mint shard]

That's a little odd isn't it

[obtuse magnet]

Ralts/Ralts

[dark holly]

They gru up

[obtuse magnet]

but it doesn't in game lol

[bitter birch]

website mistake moment

[mint shard]

Seems it's like that in the folder too, I reckon it deserves a post in #sprite-errors-old

[bitter birch]

oh ok

[thorny swan]

question: best pokemon to fuse with huge power azurill line?

[slate stream]

Azurill is always body

So pretty much anything

[mint shard]

Azumarill bodies usually have the lower attack stat of the two so fusing it with something that has a high attack stat helps get the most out of Huge Power. Slaking and Regigigas are neat options

Since you can replace their sucky abilities

[spice bluff]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Aegide/autogen-fusion-sprites/master/Battlers/288/288.346.png

god tier autogen sprite

[mint shard]

Big brain

[spice bluff]

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Aegide/custom-fusion-sprites/main/CustomBattlers/420.318.png

stunfisk torterra not being a flat earth map is a shame

[mint shard]

I guess it'd be hard to depict

[spice bluff]

yea, it would be

[dark holly]

wait isn't there an alt with it?

[mint shard]

Oh yeah. I think that's about as good as you could possibly show such a thing

[spice bluff]

that is really good lmao

[bitter birch]

regigigas autogens are usually very funny

[fathom ice]

that was the only reason i made stunfisk/torterra, flat earth

[mint shard]

Welp, you succeeded greatly. good job

[obtuse magnet]

any suggestion with infernape?

[mint shard]

Infernape/Slaking's pretty strong, has a nice sprite too

[obtuse magnet]

looks cool

any suggestion on ghost/fighting?

[mint shard]

Dusclops/Machamp with Eviolite looks like it'd be pretty strong

[obtuse magnet]

thanks a lot

[edgy salmon]

Weepinbra

[glass kite]

my 2 favorite ghost types fuse, this game is the best

[jaunty briar]

to be fair, fusions of those two would typically be better than slaking than regigigas on their own (obvs excluding some obvious exceptions)

[slate stream]

just play doubles

[boreal canyon]

Doubles is the elite format. 😉

[faint storm]

XD

[zinc comet]

The poor thing

Smiling through the pain

[boreal canyon]

I figured that'd be a Kiwi sprite, just fantastic stuff. 😄

[faint storm]

The ralts/spinark line are driders, and I love it so much!

[obtuse magnet]

damn, a raptor

[flat glen]

Oh? So you're approaching me?

[mint shard]

There's sprites of this one and it's evos that are the Pillar Men

[dry pecan]

i honestly love this one it's one of my favorites lmao

[placid ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/pillarmen-gif-19028486

[formal tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-oh-no-hes-hot-shaking-gif-16063591

[obtuse magnet]

cute eyes

[mint shard]

👀

[flat glen]

The real apex of masculinity

[mint shard]

Apex Ape Mandude

[obtuse magnet]

big eye

[flat glen]

Wth is that? 👁️

[edgy marsh]

unown/electrode

[quick totem]

No. It's a Bible accurate Angel

[edgy marsh]

eyeball father

[fluid karma]

It’s 0

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/kirby/images/7/7d/Zero.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20200310113249&path-prefix=en

[flat glen]

It is the eye that floats unblinking, silent and untethered from time

[grave heron]

Crack it like an egg

[forest crest]

mmm yummy gorey gif

Idk who posted it but that kirby death is so horrendous, don't post it here 💀

[obtuse magnet]

bro holding a spear

[flat glen]

BB/CC/Flareblitz/can it learn a fourth suicidal move that hits like a truck?

[obtuse magnet]

damn

it can

bro actually fight till he die

[frosty steeple]

might not be good but im about cool sprites not power so idc. poliwrath/chandelure looks great

@obtuse magnet

or giratina infernape

[obtuse magnet]

love it thanks so much

[frosty steeple]

np

now you got me randomizing ghost fighting fusions on the calculator

im so curious now

what.

[jade pike]

#overworld-bug-reports

[frosty steeple]

oh yeah i keep forgetting this isnt just the playthrough channel

[velvet wren]

Honchcute

Or more accurate, Biblical Accurate Angel

[noble cipher]

ho boi the quality

[velvet wren]

It what it is it for AI generated

[bitter birch]

when the ai generates

[boreal canyon]

Oh I remember working on this one with Xoto, it was loads of fun. 🙂

[nocturne light]

😀

[obtuse magnet]

could have been better

[vivid bay]

Lol thats a generated sprite moment

That might be cool to sprite though

[obtuse magnet]

yeah

[vivid bay]

Like an ice gem inside

Lol i might do it

[obtuse magnet]

nice

[obtuse magnet]

no

[bitter birch]

generated sprites

[spice bluff]

it generates well, it just doesnt look good lmao

[faint storm]

it looks terrible lol

[obtuse magnet]

knife

generated sprite

[faint storm]

looks cool

[frank lion]

the ultimate generated sprite will always be weepinbell/arcanine

[sick coyote]

thanks for that, delivery man

[spice bluff]

So in order to get huge power, I would have to have azumarill as the body, right?

and body contributes the majority of the attack?

[dry pecan]

it's atk,def,and spd, actually

the formula for it is in #fusion-faq iirc

[spice bluff]

yea, I know: mainly clarifying that trying to fuse for huge power isnt super good

[hidden bison]

Good way to remember it is the body has the physical traits

[dry pecan]

ah. i mean if your issue is just trying to fuse to give the move to another mon that normally doesnt learn it you get the movesets from both mons involved in the fusion

[spice bluff]

huge power isnt a move, it's an ability

[dry pecan]

oh, same for abilities too tbh

[spice bluff]

again, just want clarification that there is no way to get huge power with azumarill as the head

[dry pecan]

p sure you can. lemme double check

yeah shouldnt be any reason not to be able to get that ability as azu as the head. only issue you might run into is fusing a mon with a hidden ability which just uses both mons hidden abilities instead to choose from

[spice bluff]

you can't just pick any ability, you only have two options, no?

[dry pecan]

yeah, the two options are from the heads ability and the body's ability

unless they've changed how it works

[spice bluff]

so this is wrong then, right?

[dry pecan]

not entirely. the only exception to make you not being able to get huge power fusing with azu should be that the other mon has their hidden ability already, which overrides what you're initially going to get to choose from cause you'll only get to choose from the hidden ability from each mon

[spice bluff]

"You choose what ability a fusion has when you fuse it. A fusion may have either the body Pokémon's first ability, or the head Pokémon's second ability." this prevents me getting it, no?

[dry pecan]

if its azus first ability then this lied to me lmao

[spice bluff]

actually yea, you should be right

[dry pecan]

lol all good man. happy fusing! 👍

[spice bluff]

Still unsure how it works, because if I test it with a fusion it doesn't work

[dry pecan]

have you tried the other way around?

[grave heron]

did you read the part below the ability part in #fusion-faq

[spice bluff]

No, that explains it: ty

[thorny swan]

first you need an azurill that actually has huge power in the first place

[grave heron]

False

[spice bluff]

people and not reading the part below that explains the scenario, huh

[grave heron]

You need one without an ha

[spice bluff]

shouldnt need it, and it does have it

[grave heron]

Then azu body

[dry pecan]

nah #fusion-faq. azumaril can't pass huge power on

[thorny swan]

man

[grave heron]

Is there something wrong with reading?

It only gives huge power with azu BODY

NOT THE HEAD THE BODY

[dry pecan]

ah whoops. thought it just prevented giving second abilities altogether

in my defense i havent been getting good sleep for like, a week lmao

[faint storm]

This sprite makes me so mad. Especially after the work I've been putting in for my own probopass fusion. This could be done wayyyy better. I don't even like probopass! >.<

[mint shard]

Maybe the person who made that did try their hardest, it's a little unfair to assume that they didn't try

[faint storm]

Fine....

I still want to make my own version tho

[mint shard]

You totally can, that's fine

[noble cipher]

it quite likely will replace this one as well, as this one doesnt really seem on par with the rest of the works

since its also from a deleted user

[faint storm]

oof lol

[mint shard]

I think that user is Gnose's old account

[faint storm]

I love how Beecute is just a bunch of cute bees

[faint storm]

fusing bot is drunk

[steep karma]

yeah gnose had his ups and extreme downs

[grave heron]

Why do i see a loaf of bread when i look a the nose 💀

[faint storm]

Because it is bread

[rustic finch]

It's the original baguette nose

[mint spear]

he's inbread

[faint storm]

XD

[valid sorrel]

bruh

this dude

[faint storm]

he a good boi

[spice bluff]

how do you go about finding good fusions?

(strength wise)

[loud rose]

Here's Aegide's fusion calculator, which will help you see the type, stats and sprite of any given fusion in IF https://aegide.github.io/

[spice bluff]

more meaning on if its smart to combine high stat to low stat, high physical stat body with high special stat heads, or better to go special head with special body etc

[grave heron]

#fusion-faq

[spice bluff]

I am aware of the fusion faq. I am not asking on the mechanics, im asking for what people recommend/typically do themselves.

[wild ibex]

i am gonna do a nuzlocke and fuse at every other route

[mint shard]

Typically when I choose pokemon to fuse, I pick 2 focus on the same offensive stat. 2 physical attackers together or 2 special attackers together

Other than that, I just check the calc. It's up to you purely what you fuse together

[faint storm]

I usually fuse pokemon that focus in the same stats

[spice bluff]

Ty, these are more the answers I am after: I feel like fusing with a mixed attacker hurts quite a bit, unless they have a high bst

[faint storm]

I'm not a fan of mixed attackers in general

[mint shard]

Yeah typically if you fuse a special attacker with a physical one, it results in a generalist fusion, and I personally prefer pokemon that do some things well rather than everything mediocre

[faint storm]

ye

[spice bluff]

They are useful in competitive where switching will get you punished, but yea against AI its just a shame

[mint shard]

Yeah. There are some exceptions to fusing 2 different performing pokemon together of course. I know Shuckle benefits quite a bit from fusing with offensive pokemon

[grave heron]

You can play around rng but you can’t really completely dominate an ai randomly selecting a move instead of a competent human pokemon player

[faint storm]

add shuckle to anything to make it a wall

[grave heron]

Only times you do end up losing is when you get crit, played like a moron, or they got some bullshit shenanigans like a double legendary fuse with weather or dark ghost wonderguard when you cant do anything to kill it

[spice bluff]

Sure, but not everyone plays with no ruleset: playing with a harder ruleset can make it quite a challenge.

[faint storm]

This is why the game needs a harder difficulty setting :p

[mint spear]

almost definitely wont happen

[spice bluff]

honestly I just accept that I either use a harder ruleset or I play a fangame like reborn/resurgence

[mint spear]

frogman said no to modern mode 2; i'm 99% sure that also means no to anything else similar to a harder mode

[faint storm]

dangit

I hate how difficult reborn is, but it made me want more difficult pokemon games lol

[spice bluff]

reborn is getting updated to be less grind and more challenging

so thats good

[frank lion]

oh neat, haven’t played reborn in years, was the first fangame i ever played

[spice bluff]

give it like 2 months to go through bug testing

[faint storm]

We're getting a tad off track here :p

[grave heron]

You can’t really play around an infestation of sonicboom or dragon rage users that are way faster than you other than praying that the game lets you escape

[frank lion]

oh on the topic of fusions there’s one I can’t find in the discord that’s in the game that I assume was maybe submitted through the reddit?

actually it’s not in the game, it’s in the calculator

[mint shard]

What fusion would that be?

[frank lion]

marowak/farfetch’d

when i evolved my guy it was the default sprite

[spice bluff]

dragonrage doesnt hit fairies, sonicboom doesnt hit ghost: most randomizers also have a "disable dragonrage and sonicboom"

[frank lion]

so i started designing my own fusion, that could go either way with the fusion order, just was wondering what happened to this fella

[mint shard]

He's in the gallery, Retro made him

[faint storm]

hmmm

[frank lion]

my only issue is the head isn’t very marowak-resembling, still a neat sprite though

[mint shard]

The fusions that Aegide chooses to show in the calc aren't always the main ones in the game, sometimes he picks alts because he likes how they look

[faint storm]

he's in the custom battlers folder

[frank lion]

good to know

odd he wasn’t in my game, but maybe he is in the update

[mint shard]

Perhaps your game is behind on the sprite packs

[frank lion]

this is what i envisioned conceptually, just a test at spriting

[faint storm]

I found this in alts. I love it. It will haunt my nightmares

[mint shard]

Beautiful

[faint storm]

indeed

[frank lion]

will either use it for my own game or reincorporate features to resemble a maro body/farf head better

that dude is a Friend

[faint storm]

you can make it as an alt

[faint storm]

HE IS NOT A FRIEND

[frank lion]

mr friend

[faint storm]

no lol

[faint storm]

It's mr popo!

[flat glen]

I love this

[noble cipher]

How do you mean for your own game?

[mint shard]

I think they mean they want to make their own fusion and use it in their game as a replacement to the existing one

[faint storm]

I thought they meant they were designing a game

[noble cipher]

same

[frank lion]

lol my bad

i will probably also make fusions of mons that don’t exist in the game

and im aware of alt sprites, i just don’t wanna barge in here like “this sprite sucks, here’s my way better idea” when it’s the meeting of a lot of different artists and their concepts that make the fusions really special i think

[mint shard]

Indeed, it's still ok to make alts however. As long as it's not made out of any sort of spite then it's fine yeah

[frank lion]

nods

[obtuse magnet]

i like that sprite

[thorny swan]

oh they're both funny mans

[modern walrus]

We meet again Belchop

[grave heron]

"me after december"

[modern walrus]

Technically after November

Cuz once November ends you then get to work out

[slate stream]

Belchop is a anime character preparing to use his special love

[grave heron]

Whats stopping you from working out in November

[flat glen]

Lady Haunt

[modern walrus]

November bad

[thorny swan]

what do you guys think would be the best fusion for stall?

[dry pecan]

I don’t have a way to look up the moveset for koffing or weezing but can either of them learn toxic?

[slate stream]

Probably arceus and bliss's fusion

Or blissey and new

Every move with bulk

[thorny swan]

only in LGPE it seems

[dry pecan]

Ah well was about to say weezing/tyranitar then cause that mix with levitate makes it generally safe to swap in to and set up

[mint shard]

Blissey/Dusclops and Chansey/Shuckle are good eviolite stallers. The latter has a few weaknesses though

[flat glen]

Is it a number two? Or just an innocent lil...?

[spice bluff]

Any strong combos people can see here? Muk/Kingler is actually surprisingly solid

[bitter birch]

can't go wrong with a gyarados combo

togekiss/chandelure might also be really good with serene grace

if you can separate components, garchomp/azumarill is nuts with huge power on 76 attack

alternatively swap 'em if you can get huge power on it

better speed and way better attack

[mint shard]

Huge Power is limited to Azumarill bodies only yeah

[bitter birch]

damn

[dry pecan]

How do ability capsules work in that case actually? Is it possible to swap into it with one or is it locked to the two abilities you choose from upon fusing?

[spice bluff]

just doing a anything goes randomizer nuzlocke, first time playing infinite fusion: will limit fusing on future runs

togekiss chandelure seems good, serene grace is always solid

[mint shard]

Ye I think it only gives you the option to pick the possible abilities

Things like Azumarill head huge power, or Scizor body technician aren't possible yeah

[spice bluff]

garchomp azumarill feels bad to go from 102 speed 130 atk to 67 speed 152 atk

[bitter birch]

paraflinch on a mon with 128 special atk and really good stab coverage

[spice bluff]

fairy fire is great typing too

[fringe spruce]

If you're able to switch things around, Flygon Feraligator can be a Ground Water type with Dragon coverage

[spice bluff]

It gets levitate too, which isn't nuts, but makes it a better switch in

[eternal smelt]

[faint storm]

The name fits

[thorny swan]

he really do

[heady trellis]

kiwi moment

[flat glen]

Self fusions always trying to learn the same move twice are quite funny

[bitter birch]

does that work if they already know the move in question

[flat glen]

No

[bitter birch]

darn

no triple last resort eevee/eevee

[flat glen]

They'll try to passive aggressively suggest you to really learn a certain level-up move, but once you say yes to it they're golden

[flat glen]

Sabrina was cut like butter

[drifting kelp]

That's a hell of a change for a knife

[jade pike]

whats a good sandslash fusion

[unique elbow]

Lapras

[flat glen]

Can confirm: give it water absorb

[jade pike]

hmm ok

[flat glen]

Even though I personally plan to upgrade to Lapras/Donphan because it has better stats in everything bar speed (which was negligible to begin with)

[karmic patrol]

Very nice, flygon has some sick sprites

Like, this is what my starter in my current randomizer playthrough will look like

[flat glen]

The Poli line has some top tier sprites as well

[flat glen]

Upgrade time! 🧬

[faint storm]

Hawt

[glass kite]

I keep thinking about the fact it's arms have serious sticky hand energy

[young laurel]

I gonna download this game soon can someone give me the fusion between Charizard and dragonite

[lunar scaffold]

fire dragon it will be design should be in art work thing

[young laurel]

I still haven’t downloaded the game yet and I’m not sure if I can find it easily

[lunar scaffold]

looks sick

[lost mason]

Just use the calculator

[spring siren]

https://aegide.github.io/ use the fusion calculator

[young laurel]

This is amazing

I didn’t know the calculator was a thing but it glad

[velvet wren]

Huh...

That looks kinda Ok for AI generated.

[faint storm]

not bad

[faint storm]

Is so cute :3

[wintry moon]

So, does it go head/ability1, body/ability2 for what they donate?
Does it matter at all what ability they have when the fusion happens?

[mint shard]

What ability they have doesn't matter yeah, unless they have a HA

And the answer to you first question is in #fusion-faq

[wintry moon]

wow a lot more things have been documented since i went away in 2020
Awesome!

[mint shard]

Indeed, it got updated not too long ago. Pretty neat

[wintry moon]

game is only getting better with time

[flat glen]

What's a good, bulky fusion with Regenerator Corsola?

[bitter birch]

probably something with high hp

since regenerator works off %

blissey would be good if her typing didnt suck ass

[flat glen]

Man I wish I didn't scramble Wynaut's egg for a quest now ahah

[bitter birch]

wobba is pretty decent but you have little to no movepool

[flat glen]

Corsola/Golem has an incredible sprite at least

[bitter birch]

oh wait corsola gets recover access???

that might be good enough

[flat glen]

It does, but with Regenerator, leftovers and both Snorlax as special wall and Gengar/Forretress as physical wall in the back I'm not sure I'd teach it to it

Unless I have move slots to spare

So happy

[bitter birch]

core dude

[flat glen]

"Mom, can we go catch Zapdos?" "No honey, we already have Zapdos at home"

[bitter birch]

lmao

[flat glen]

I'll probably go with the inverted version even though it's absolute bonkers

[flat glen]

Majestic

[wintry moon]

ya, no

rb

[flat glen]

Still happy

[wintry moon]

um
it's horrific and i love it

[flat glen]

Spriting those tongue vines must've been a nightmare! Huge props to the artist

[wintry moon]

twas xoto
incredible work

[flat glen]

I love this. Thanks Kiwi (whom I don't know whether I should ping for something like this, so I won't)

[wheat crane]

regen tho

[wintry moon]

There's so many good corsola sprites

[fading lichen]

Honestly I love anything that's a living coral reef like that. 👀

[steep karma]

check my corsolas out

[wintry moon]

lapras/torterra also

[opaque stone]

Is there any benefit to fusing two of the same poke?

[faint storm]

A cooler sprite for some, different typing for some

So, not really, no lol

[faint storm]

Any ideas on what to fuse mewtwo with

[fluid karma]

A Pokémon

[faint storm]

hmmm

[faint storm]

lol

I need to find giratina cause this is kickass

[slate stream]

My only mewtwo fusion is horrible

[bitter birch]

I love how when everyone sees this elaborate, really well-designed sprite we just know it's a

[slate stream]

Indeed

[modern walrus]

Mammuth moment

[slender gorge]

You gotta check sometimes as others have done similar lol

[wild spruce]

yeah corsolas dessign space is amazing is a shame the stats are so meh

[faint storm]

Is this a tail?

[slender gorge]

Probably

[fading lichen]

No, this is Patrick.

[slender gorge]

Obviously

[flat glen]

Iron tail, being propelled towards you at the speed of light

[fluid karma]

Surrender now or prepare to fight

[flat glen]

Aggrorsa, that's right!

[faint storm]

lol

[faint storm]

LET IT RIP

[modern walrus]

LETS GOO

[dusky trout]

the majestic

[modern walrus]

He says GRAAAAAH like venom on the daily

Execpt in a small mousey voice

[dusky trout]

the smal critter

[hidden bison]

I'm just laughing way to hard at this

[dusky trout]

ahsdkjhadhkjsahkd

the

[hidden bison]

The angry bird

[modern walrus]

The angered weed

[hidden bison]

Imma catch i and call it Angry Weed

[dusky trout]

with a funky 20 dollar haircut

[hidden bison]

Yeaa

ADORABLE!!

[modern walrus]

She's cute

But her right arm is flipping me off

Actually both arms

[bitter birch]

they're pointing up!

[modern walrus]

She just straight flipping me off man

[bitter birch]

it's an index not a middle finger

[modern walrus]

Control your fairy moon mole

[modern walrus]

That is the joke

[dusky trout]

the bebe

[wintry moon]

It has three fingers
the index is the middle

[bitter birch]

🗿

[hidden bison]

The baby form of that was way to cute so i needed to catch it

[dusky trout]

the flying sludge

with trashed cat ears on

[wintry moon]

my first ever fusion was a pichu/nidoran F because that thing breaks the cute barrier

[dusky trout]

the two babies

[wintry moon]

my bad i was actually thinking of pikachu

[dusky trout]

the scenery

[dusky trout]

ohhh

frfr

that is a little baby

[wintry moon]

and then she grows up and becomes regal af

[glass kite]

the goofy raichu eyes though

[dusky trout]

she looks majestic

[modern walrus]

Sad

Fat

Orb

[dusky trout]

orb staring

[dusky trout]

pogger

[bitter birch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFDUDkJ6zZY

[plain holly]

my sprite!

[flat glen]

Is there a way to turn this into an emoji? It's at least 300% more pogs than

[wintry moon]

Make a server, get nitro, have any emoji you want

[flat glen]

I was talking about the size of it, because I don't know if it'd fit

[plain holly]

you can crop it and suggest as an emoji in #discord-suggestions using a bot command if you want

[wintry moon]

You can upload any size you want, the only real concern is whether it's legible when ensmallened

[flat glen]

I'll definitely look into it 👍

But not from mobile

[wintry moon]

This one didn't come out great e.g.

[unique elbow]

You dont have the sprite pack, do you?

[dusky trout]

it is 4.8

so idk

[plain holly]

you can download the last big spriter pack in #announcements because if you didn't download them all separately then you don't have a huge chunk of custom sprites

just download sprite pack 1-79 and put all the sprites from there in Custom Battlers folder

[dusky trout]

ohh okok :DD

thankie!!

[pine fog]

I just wanna share my cursed birble 🤣 his eyes never shift focus.

[urban echo]

121512 (132.289)
Ditto/Shedinja
Wonder Guard
x2: Dark [only]

[fluid karma]

But why use Ditto, using transform would just result in copying the opponent Pokémon but with 1 HP and no wonder guard

[urban echo]

only if you transform.

[fluid karma]

Yeah, so there’s no reason to fuse it with Ditto as opposed to a better normal type

[flat glen]

Plus transform copies everything bar HP, which you have none of

[fluid karma]

Yeah, that’s what I said

[flat glen]

In addition to none of many other stats, since you're fusing with ditto

[wintry moon]

better use an actually good normal type
like ratatta

[opaque stone]

Just wiped Koga with will-o-wisp, leaving this one paralyzed from the previous fight so it couldn't get poisoned.

[jade pike]

big brain time

[glass kite]

tbh, one of the best mons I've found so far is banunny. a ghost/normal that learns fighting moves and with speed that isn't awful, it was quite fun to use. what's your go-to ghost/normal combo?

I'd assume managing to put together a ghost/normal with shedinja would be broken, what with only 1 type being able to hit you.

[dry pecan]

Maybe blissey/shedinja? The hp gain with wonderguard would be nuts. Even then chansey/shedinja with eviolite (the item the increases defense by 25% for non fully evolved mons forget the name) would be p good too imo

The only thing that’d suck imo would be that it still loses to a physical dark move p hard but even then having that much health at least makes it survive for a good bit

[modern walrus]

He still says GRAAAAAH like venom but his voice is now 13% deeper

[glass kite]

sounds like a really powerful combo!

[faint storm]

But wonderguard sets the health at max 1

[dry pecan]

Oh wait does it? I didn’t know that actually lmao.

[mint shard]

Ye, if you don't have wonderguard on a Shedinja fusion it'll set its HP to the (bad) average of the two

[dry pecan]

Never used shedinja for a fusion actually. Good to know lol

[faint storm]

that way wonderguard wouldn't be broken XD

[mint shard]

170 hp wonderguard would be pretty nuts

[dry pecan]

Yeah honestly I just didn’t know that wonderguard put shedinjas up to 1 I thought it was what he went into cause of his stay pool lmao

[dusky trout]

Speaking of shedinjas
I want to use a fusion of Snorlax/shedinja

[dusky trout]

Maturity be like

[modern walrus]

True

[thorny swan]

This is so that you don’t commit Sturdinja.

[mint shard]

Ye ik

[karmic patrol]

Yall sleeping on Slakinja

113 attack

[modern walrus]

Big man

[faint storm]

tru, but only cause I prefer my shedneinja's weakness to be fairy instead of dark

[glass kite]

fairy is usually an issue for me, making it a bigger one doesn't help

a lot of my favorite types are weak to fairy as is

[wintry moon]

hello do you have a moment to talk about our king and saviour the sheer force-having poison/ground type

[glass kite]

but wobuffet is a psychic type with shadow tag...

joking, nidoking is still epic

just haven't managed to find any good fusions, sadly

[wintry moon]

also only slightly joking
at this point nidoking is a meme for me

wobblord should be fun

[glass kite]

tbh, I think wobbuffet kinda explains why I hate nuzlockes. my pokemon are kinda expendable

[glass kite]

lord wobuffet is the best, wobape is currently my favorite fusion for it so far

-counter
-mirror coat
-close combat (for when they're being difficult)
-destiny bond

[wintry moon]

🤔
if this game doesn't use the nerfed version of explosion, a normal type electrode fusion could be fun

[glass kite]

explosion's too much of a gamble for me, tbh

destiny bond is usually a guaranteed chance to hand the opposing pokemon an L on a silver platter

[wintry moon]

first order check, electrode slaking gives you 123atk 113 speed stab explosion
if it halves defense, that should oko pretty much anything that isn't like 4x resistant

[glass kite]

when you put the numbers like that, sounds reliable

forgot slaking was a beast

[wintry moon]

slaking is such a basic fusion material
anything/slaking becomes viable

[glass kite]

slaking's design scares me, so I don't use it often.

plus, if I have a normal type, it's gotta be ghost/normal, and idk about slaking having any sick ghost combos

[wintry moon]

Stab double edge is pretty sick if you can fuse rock head onto it, which is cool

[glass kite]

I suppose psychic normal could suffice, both ghost and psychic are aided by the addition of normal

[glass kite]

true, so long as there's a combo that has a nice aesthetic

[wintry moon]

very subjective that
there are a few slaking sprites made i really really like personally

[glass kite]

giant apes are just things that inherently terrify me

[wintry moon]

❤️ 🐵
he beeeg

[glass kite]

he scary

[wintry moon]

anger

[jade pike]

this looks like a baboon

[wintry moon]

baboons are disrespectful animals

[glass kite]

y'know, that sprite ain't bad. I guess my main problem is always being offput by the torso so bald you can see your reflection on it

[wintry moon]

my favorite is easily the machamp that scarecrow did though
it's in my last hof

[glass kite]

also why does chandelure have so many fusions that are dripped out of their minds

[wintry moon]

Bruv

Chandelure/Articuno

[glass kite]

ikr?

[wintry moon]

it's the purple fire
easy to make flair with

well, if you can draw that kind of texture
I tried and failed

[glass kite]

fire is always frustrating to do, that's why I always make mine super simplistic

[wintry moon]

tbh it's a bit weird i have spriter role, I've only ever submitted one sprite x)
Nothing else i've made feels good enough

[glass kite]

I only submitted the shuptwig line, spritework makes my head hurt

standard digital art is always my go-to

[wintry moon]

people who can actually draw are impressive

[hidden bison]

Fucking hell these designs go harrrrrrd

[glass kite]

banette's always my go-to

the designs are some solid stuff

[wintry moon]

meanwhile I feel like something's wrong if my team doesn't have a blaziken or nidoking x)

[glass kite]

I refuse to complete a run without a ghost type

it's like forgetting the patty on a cheeseburger to me

[wintry moon]

Eh
I usually just fill in ghost coverage with some combination of zoroark/gengar/houndoom

fff i should build some kind of sprite explorer
Using windows explorer search is really tedious

[glass kite]

ghost types have Just always been my favorite

playing oras for the first time and fighting the ghost type elite four member (think her name was phoebe, I don't remember thoh) basically unlocked a core memory

so it's just a case of wanting to use mons I like and forego any real strategy

[wintry moon]

makes sense
as a wee babby of, like 8, i swept cartridge Blue with a Nidorino and the rest is history

[glass kite]

had the same thing with wobuffet as a kid, got insanely lucky with the counters and mirror coats and decided "this is the best pokemon'

it's also when I first learned the ways of the destiny bond lame-out

I think I beat lysandre's entire team for the first time by just forcing my wobuffet through a cycle of revival and death by destiny bonding it all

[wintry moon]

Destiny bond is one of those moves i always refused to use in cartridge, because i saw the games as games of attrition, where conserving pokemon, hp, and pp were the real goal

recently just went "lmao potions exist, ez game"

[glass kite]

that was my first realization, discovered revives and it was all downhill from there

my entire playstyle is obnoxious, but I draw the line at stall strats.

[wintry moon]

i have bad news

[glass kite]

...

[wintry moon]

😎

[faint storm]

I see nothing bad here

[glass kite]

I just feel like In terms of strategy, stall is legit braindead. at least for wobuffet there's the whole aspect of reading your opponent's strengths and weaknesses, and knowing when you can't take more hits and need to destiny bond

stall is just repeating some rehearsed actions

[wintry moon]

i build two kinds of pokemon

stall and hyper offense

[glass kite]

I'm also naturally impatient so stall makes me want to hurt people

[wintry moon]

either they sit on the opponent until they die, or they run screaming at them while hopped up on psychojet swords dance

[glass kite]

I like going for a more "whitney"-ish style. statuses, flinching, the whole 9.

[wintry moon]

eh
if a mon can't one-shot whatever is in front of it, it had better be able to tank them out, or it doesn't belong on my team
it's a very metagaming mindset

[glass kite]

while your obnoxious strat is more "mmm hp drain insert sundowner line here", mine is "Let's make the opponent discover a new stage of grief"

don't get frozen by the paralyze, only to wind up hitting yourself in your confusion and such

metagaming just isn't for me. if I read into the numbers too much it'll kill me from knowledge overload, I just want something fun that has a cool design and a good type set

I play pokemon like a game of raising magical monsters, I feel like metagamimg breaks the feel of the world and turns it into a glorified numbers game

[wintry moon]

sounds very high effort
I'd rather click head smash and laugh

[glass kite]

I just like playing the game with the mons I love, which is a lot so I always have a lot of types to go for. I still manage to get attached to pokemon, like my 12 foot tall shiny drifblim in legends arceus that happened to spawn alpha.

[wintry moon]

speaking of which
i should breed a head smash aggperior

[flat glen]

Sprite explorer? You mean for the custom sprite folders?

[wintry moon]

Yeah

Some way to easily see every sprite involving a given mon

[flat glen]

I just open discord and search for in:sprite-gallery pokemon

[wintry moon]

the sprite gallery doesn't have everything, somehow

[flat glen]

Or put two names to see if a custom for a fusion exists

[slate stream]

Just go into the custom sprite folder and ctrl f for the number you want

[bitter birch]

competitive mons boring

[wintry moon]

try searching for a two-digit mon, and you'll get four sets of fusions

[bitter birch]

jynx/flareon pouty gal go brrrr

[slate stream]

Some are from Reddit and some were submitted to contests and not put in gallery

[slate stream]

All the fusions with the same head are in one place

So once you find one then you're set

[wintry moon]

yeah.
And if you want to see all the bodies using that mon at the same time?

[slate stream]

You could also just scroll to the number, that's what I do to make sure my sprites are in the right places

[slate stream]

Search .number

[flat glen]

For the bodies you could- yeah, that

[slate stream]

If you wanna make a sprite viewer go ahead I guess

Just don't see much function

[flat glen]

Okay, .12 technically returns a bunch of other ones as well for example. But it's a good compromise solution

Slower than the gallery imo, but still

[wintry moon]

Making the search into a string literal somehow works
".12" returns both .12 and 12.

[slate stream]

Is the drive organized by mon?

I don't think it is but I may be mistaken

I normally just use the calculator and gallery for seeing sprites tho

[flat glen]

By number of the head

[wintry moon]

I select my mons by picking a base mon and seeing what sprites have been made for it :p

very useful to have all of them on one page

[slate stream]

I just fuse Pokémon in the order I catch them

Then I'm forced to make more sprites

[wintry moon]

Doing gods work

[slate stream]

Haven't beaten the game yet cause I keep restarting

[quick totem]

Why not searching "*.12.png" on "/CustomBattlers"?

[wintry moon]

windows explorer search is dreadfully slow, is why

[young laurel]

What is the best pokemon to fuse whith gyardos

[wintry moon]

sunkern

[wintry moon]

also sometimes this happens for some reason

[slate stream]

May I ask why you're making it a string?

[wintry moon]

Sometimes that makes it behave better
It seems very inconsistent in how it actually wants the query

[flat glen]

I personally loved the STAB 120 base power Thrash of Furret/Gyarados from the very early game up until lv 50, which was when the poor guy died

But then again, that was Silph... he would've probably kept pulling its weight for a little more if not for that (also if I had played better)

[faint storm]

probably a ground or grass type I think

[flat glen]

... what's hidden under those pixelated hands?

[dry pecan]

||more pixels||

[flat glen]

Fixed

[faint storm]

lol

[true jasper]

Thanks for censoring those, we wouldn't want any hand h*lding here

[grave heron]

Now the children won’t spontaneously combust because they saw uncensored h*nds

[faint storm]

This is adorable

[modern walrus]

It indeed is

Until you realize he's going to the afterlife

[dusky trout]

"bye guys see you at heaven"

"...or hell if that matter"

[modern walrus]

True I fear

[flat glen]

Now imagine, for a moment, that its evolution had a hot air balloon sprite instead of an auto-generated one and you could fire off light ball, flare-boosted sketched... aaand I just remembered that there are no op weird Electric or Ghost special moves to sketch