fusions

[dusky pawn]

if you want digimon

[sleek canyon]

Isn't rhyperior and charizard also wargreymon

[dusky pawn]

umm think so XD there are so many digimon

ogekiss/Gardevoir = Angewomon
Togekiss/Gallade = Angemon
Ho-oh/Rapidash = Pegasusmon
Banette/Gardevoir = Ladydevimon [Unreleased until June + July sprite pack]

• (bewerkt)

1
[07:41]
Rhyhorn/Charmander = Koromon
Charmeleon/Rhyhorn = Agumon
PorygonZ/Charmander = Agumon(?)
Charizard/Rhyhorn = Greymon
PorygonZ/Charmeleon = Greymon(?)
Charizard/Rhydon = Metalgreymon
PorygonZ/Charizard = Metalgreymon(?)
Marowak/Nidoking = Skullgreymon
Rhyperior/Charizard = Wargreymon / BlkWargreymon
Charizard/Aggron = Wargreymon

• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Riolu/Swinub = Tsunomon
  Swinub/Riolu = Gabumon
  Lucario/Piloswine = Garurumon
  Piloswine/Lucario = WereGarurumon
  Lucario/Mamoswine = Metalgarurumon
  Mamoswine/Lucario = Gabumon (Kizuna)
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Luxray/Tauros = Omegamon (Or Omnimon u english only fcks)
  Kyurem/Bisharp = Omegamon
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Bisharp/Pinsir = MegaKabuterimon (Red)
  Heracross/Bisharp = MegaKabuterimon (Blue)
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Victreebel/Hitmonchan = Togemon [Unreleased until June + July sprite pack]
  Sunflora/Sunflora = Sunflowmon
  Gardevoir/Roserade = Rosemon
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Garchomp/Luxray = Raidramon
  Salamence/Machoke = Exveemon
  Beedrill/Machoke = Stingmon
  Genesect/Salamance = Imperialdramon (Dragon mode)
  Golurk/Salamence = Imperialdramon (Dragon mode)
  Salamence/Golurk = Imperialdramon (Fighter mode)
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Klinklang/Gyarados = Gigaseadramon
  Magnezone/Groudon = Mugendramon (Or Machinedraymon for u english fckers)
• (bewerkt)
  [07:41]
  Riolu/Tyrogue = Gaomon
  Tangela/Togepi = Digitamamon
  Ho-oh/Blaziken = Garudamon
  Sandshrew/Trapinch = Armadimon
  Skarmory/Arcanine = Holsmon
  Mewtwo/Blaziken = Sylphimon
  Cubone/Doduo = Kiwimon
  Skarmory/Mamoswine = Mammothmon
  Lickitung/Grimer = Numemon
  Hitmonchan/Feebas = Manbomon
  Magby/Machoke = Agunimon
• (bewerkt)
  [

@sleek canyon

[sleek canyon]

Holy shit ok

Thank you so much

[dusky pawn]

Klink/Magikarp = Seadramon
Persian/Machoke = Leomon
Persian/Machamp = BanchoLeomon
Arceus/Wigglytuff = Cherubimon
Lopunny/Blaziken = Antylamon
Lopunny/Golurk = Rapidmon
Houndour/Giratina = Belphemon (Sleep mode)
Houndoom/Giratina = Belphemon (Rage mode)
Absol/Pawniard = Lunemon
Absol/Bisharp = Dianamon
Deoxys/Ferrothorn = Infermon (bewerkt)

[sleek canyon]

THERES MORE?

[dusky pawn]

tahts it not sure if all

thats the file i have

[dusky pawn]

als fun fusions of monster hunter

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/711512044138135602/145.309.png

[sleek canyon]

I love monster hunter and I know of quite a few but I also know I'm definitely missing some

[sleek canyon]

Zapdos slaking

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1143924919059611718/368.351.png

[sleek canyon]

Holy

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1142191112434495498/284.264a.png

[sleek canyon]

ok yeah I've definitely been missing out on some

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1105246578865881139/272.338a.png

[sleek canyon]

I'm so glad these exist though

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1104307656082071583/351.217.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1100869718593765456/101.372.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1096674737578586133/145.113.png

and so on XD

[sleek canyon]

Do you have a list of what the fusions are like you did for digimon or do I gotta do some investigation lol

[dusky pawn]

no only of digimon

but you can use the search bar

[sleek canyon]

Ok, time to investigate then
Thank you though

[dusky pawn]

type that and other say monster hunter you get a few

@sleek canyon

[sleek canyon]

A lot of people use the rathalos fusion so I imagine that'll take up like half the results XD

[twin sierra]

I love digimon, it just feels like cheating on Pokémon to morph my charizard like that

Also that rathalos fusion is sick

[dusky pawn]

na if you do i like i do it you only get 1 of each

[sleek canyon]

Oh sick ok

[dusky pawn]

like this

[sleek canyon]

Arzuros, ivory lagiacrus, and barioth
All look absolutely beautiful

Ok I'll search like that, thanks for the advice

[dusky pawn]

ye you can also type names of monster/ anime chars some time they also show up

[wild plank]

yes

[hidden bison]

help

[dusky pawn]

i would say ray

[hidden bison]

sadly i missclicked while trying to take the third screenshot and took some alakazam/dragonair fusion

new game time

[elder pivot]

lol

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1148138738090786876/46.133.png

[barren mural]

haha

[river pawn]

anybody have the gible larvitar fusions, the website isnt working for me?

[barren mural]

i think that it isnt working for anyone

because i tried

and doesnt work

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1142354470659969065/133.385.png

eevee tired

@twin sierra

[dusky pawn]

hmm not bad

[hidden bison]

hoho

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1126967857268400238/133.150.png

[hidden bison]

Hi how do i get the cool anime sprites

[barren mural]

you need to download them

[hidden bison]

i did

i doawnloaded them all

[barren mural]

did you put them into the folder?

[hidden bison]

yes

they work

[barren mural]

can you show me?

[hidden bison]

the game said the thing with the sprite replace

[dusky pawn]

crazy start XD

[barren mural]

ok so then you went to the sprites options of the pokemon

and select it

[dusky pawn]

hey only 1 ball

[barren mural]

lol

[hidden bison]

Are the fusion sides down atm?

[dusky pawn]

the 1 i use not

[hidden bison]

Yeah ok idk why but it wont work for me atm

@barren mural where do i do this

[dusky pawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/543958354377179176/1103399254808084542/141.380.png

hmm can do this already

[hidden bison]

@barren mural i found it but there are no sprites

[dusky pawn]

bahahahaha

@twin sierra new game for fun XD

[barren mural]

oh my god

[dusky pawn]

and have this already

[barren mural]

show the folder

[hidden bison]

haha

[barren mural]

hey yo

wth is that game

were do you get all the random things

[dusky pawn]

when you have 1 save file if you start over you can choose randomizer

[hidden bison]

some files didnt get in the game

[barren mural]

oh i know what you did

[barren mural]

yes that must be it

[hidden bison]

how do i fix that

[dusky pawn]

and did set the degree on 500

[barren mural]

HEY YOOOO

500 HUNDRED = ONLY OP FUSIONS

but 500 for you

or for trainers too

[dusky pawn]

both

[hidden bison]

?

[dusky pawn]

me and trainers on 500

[twin sierra]

I just kept fusions all over the place and then I finally put it on my steamdeck. It’s been a ton of fun

[hidden bison]

i meant my question:)

[dusky pawn]

huh what 1 then

[hidden bison]

.

[barren mural]

let me see the files so i can he;p

[hollow hedge]

Are their any magmorter fussion where is just a straight up mortar? Think it be good with Octilary

[muted cargo]

Props to whoever made this sprite its so cool

[meager spear]

what makes this

[olive girder]

Can I see all the Bisharp fusions?

[hidden bison]

muk slaps

[muted cargo]

aww hes so dumb

no brain cel

[half storm]

quiwwerd

Wait

[jagged burrow]

how to i find the sprite for a chandelure/sandslash fusion?

[unique sinew]

yeo chat is this a gyat moemnt

[late current]

Its a babe protect it

[polar python]

Minecraft fusions

All polygon too

[muted cargo]

oh no

omg porygon fusions hiii!

[polar python]

For anyone who wants to still fuse pokemon without the game this site is working https://if.daena.me/

[muted cargo]

It seems to be quite slow

[polar python]

This is faster https://sneedseedfeed.github.io/FusionFinder/

[cunning knoll]

Is this a reference to something?

[muted cargo]

idk but it reminds me of a mario & luigi boss tho

[muted cargo]

yay :D

awww

pfffft

[tepid ore]

NO WAY

[muted cargo]

im the giant rat and i make all da rules

[sharp raptor]

Yeah

[plain crescent]

wow

[cunning knoll]

What is it?

[sharp raptor]

Midbus

[cunning knoll]

Oh

[polar python]

SANS

[plain crescent]

oh no

[sharp raptor]

Yeah there's a lot of sans

[muted cargo]

Proceeds to drill head into brick wall and die

[polar python]

What

[plain crescent]

ur gonna have a bad time

[muted cargo]

The correct response to this sprite

[plain crescent]

ur gonna have a poligonal time

[muted cargo]

It seriosuly reminds me of Buggy from One Piece. I think it's the crazy eyes combined with the big red nose

[muted cargo]

babie mode

you.

[warm widget]

Pretty sure its one of the bosses from one of the mario and luigi rpg games?

Think its the one where you can play as bowser but i dont remember the name of the game

[polar python]

You are carrying too much dog

[cunning knoll]

Yeah found whats it’s based on

[muted cargo]

Ha! Knew it!

[warm widget]

Midbuss i think

[muted cargo]

It just had that vibe to it

[warm widget]

Oh yeah its one of the Midbus bosses, mk

[polar python]

What is the other pokemon that isn't arceus

[muted cargo]

da gon

[warm widget]

Damn.

[polar python]

That's not a pokemon

[muted cargo]

Porygon

[polar python]

Ah thank you

[fast warren]

Hahaha its kingpin

so cool

[warm widget]

So true

Not sure what sneasel fuses with to make it though

[tribal rapids]

Probably snorlax

[fast warren]

but the final result is amazing

[warm widget]

Yeah probably

[fast warren]

yes I was thinking the same

[warm widget]

Or maybe Slaking

[fast warren]

what is this? oh god

[tribal rapids]

Thats my selfie who leaked it smh

[muted cargo]

Porygon and Z

[fast warren]

yes it have the claws similar

[fast warren]

looks like the son of missigno

[warm widget]

Octopops..!

[tribal rapids]

Inly reason i think its snorlax is the colour of the body

[muted cargo]

Behold, a Pokemon!

[fast warren]

I like this , reminds me an azteca dog

[fast warren]

hachibi , maybe a snorlax and octillery are the combination

[fast warren]

triforce?

[warm widget]

I think its Tentacruel

[muted cargo]

No

[warm widget]

Cus it was around the tentacruel sprites in the folder

[muted cargo]

Damn there's no Machoke/Octillery fusion

very obvious one piece fusion there

[warm widget]

New minecraft sprite

I think

[muted cargo]

I wonder what combo could make Superfly from JoJo

[fast warren]

eggxecutor alola with magnemite or klink klank

can be

[muted cargo]

I think Zone would be better from the Magn line

[fast warren]

yeah

[warm widget]

Wow, this one's cool

[fast warren]

gorgeous

[fast warren]

its absol?

[warm widget]

Absol + primeape yeah

[fast warren]

yes

[fast warren]

it reminds me a funny character of a cartoon

[muted cargo]

back to this guy

[warm widget]

Its pepino im pretty sure

[fast warren]

i name this prehistoric mario

[warm widget]

Cool play on this fusion ngl

[fast warren]

peppino spagethi from pizza tower yeah i remember the appearance of him

[fast warren]

celebi toretto

[chilly hatch]

Show me some good salamence fusions please

[polar python]

Gardevor body pillow

[muted cargo]

Sableye gets so many good sprites

[outer pond]

spooder jumpscare

[nocturne raft]

suggestions for charizard and gyarados?

[outer pond]

yes, here are my charizard fusions

and my gyarados fusion

[nocturne raft]

wow, this looks so cool

what is the other pokemon?

[outer pond]

klinklang

[nocturne raft]

ty!

[outer pond]

[hidden bison]

😍😍😍😍😍

[dark summit]

Look at this warrior bug

[hidden bison]

😘😘😘

[dark summit]

https://tenor.com/view/baragon-gmk-godzilla-roar-kaiju-gif-21746121

I think I just made baragon

[brittle kindle]

The beedrill marowak fusion is so simple but it's my favorite.

[runic junco]

How did you make

And do you know any one piece fusions

[hidden bison]

The one piece isn't real

[warm widget]

I just found it in the sprites folder lol

[runic junco]

Great knew that

[runic junco]

Oh

[hidden bison]

The one piece is friendship

[warm widget]

Its probably some fusion to do with Geodude maybe

[runic junco]

Why are you telling me this

[hidden bison]

It's a long running joke

[warm widget]

Did find The 8 tailed beast from naruto in the files tho

I think its Tentacruel and machoke maybe?

[hidden bison]

Because there's been so many years of development of one piece and there's a possibility the one piece is just friendship 💀

[hidden bison]

That's cool

[unique sinew]

yeo chat

what mons do i need for this

[outer pond]

two sylveon

[signal tapir]

Does anyone know any good movie references?

[verbal otter]

I was literally talking about godzilla references and there is fucking baragon

epic

[rough zealot]

Wait...that's just Kabuterimon.

[rough zealot]

Omg, a trans girl! Hell yeah!

[tepid condor]

what are some of the best mewtwo fusions

[elfin sequoia]

hey, what if told u i might have found the best goth gf u will ever see

[reef current]

i would've thought that was a Meloetta fusion if I didn't know better

[elfin sequoia]

true, this is lampent/roserade

[reef current]

very nice though 👍

[carmine swift]

Hey. What happened to the Kaboom242 website?

[signal tapir]

Please tell me that if you fused fused a politoad and a mimikyu together it would make a Kermit sprite…

[gilded fiber]

Heyyy, my little spaghetti boy!

[thorn vigil]

i like the spaghetti boi. its really clever, Hakari.

[gilded fiber]

Thank you!

There's one for Tangrowth too

[thorn vigil]

honestly, i like them both

[inland plover]

fuse Zorua / Arcanine

[carmine swift]

Hey, what happened to the website?

[thin fable]

#announcements

[unique sinew]

wait

which way the the vigilante deku one?

is it mismagius then lucario

or lucario then mismagius

[thin fable]

probably mismagius/lucario

[severe shuttle]

any good magmortar fusiosn

[robust nest]

you like heatmor?

WAIT IS THIS KILLER BEAN

[severe shuttle]

what are some good talonflame fusions that keep the fire type

[acoustic beacon]

Garbage

[acoustic beacon]

Talonray looks pretty cool (Talonflame + Luxray)

[severe shuttle]

yeah i'm already using a lux fusion tho sadly

thanks tho

[acoustic beacon]

Talonligatr

Talonchu (Raichu)

Talondrio

Talontops if you don't mind it being a bit overdesigned

[severe shuttle]

what is the tops

[acoustic beacon]

Kabutops

Talonrill (Azumarill)

[severe shuttle]

dayum

all of those are sick

thanks a lot

[lunar current]

Anyone mind helping me theorycraft a Weaponized BS team? Prankster Spore is definitely getting a spot

[hidden bison]

hehe

well, prankster spore is great. Prankster mons include Whimsicott and Sableye

[lunar current]

Well, not Sableye yet

[hidden bison]

that's not in IF?

I was unaware

[lunar current]

So Whimsicott and Klefki for now

Sableye as well as the other new mons are just in the playtest version for now

[hidden bison]

and you get Spore from Parasect, Breloom, and Amoongus

idk which of THOSE are in

[lunar current]

Parasect and Breloom

[hidden bison]

fair enough

I think Parasect gets swords dance too?

so you can use spore to create a free turn to set up

[lunar current]

Probably just gonna go with Whimsicott/Breloom, Breloom also gets Swords Dance

[hidden bison]

Breloom is so cool

[sweet estuary]

Venonat and Articuno are my favorites, Ninjask is also pretty cool

[hidden bison]

I love it on its own

other good BSing combinations are the classic "Shedinja + something with a better typing"

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

I fused my Shedinja with a Lucario and actually chose bug/steel instead of ghost/normal

they both have only one weakness each but fire is less common coverage than dark

[lunar current]

Oh yeah, by far

[hidden bison]

it seems like everything has a dark move

[lunar current]

Dark's EVERYWHERE

[hidden bison]

but only a few non fire type pokemon have fire moves

and the ones that do, at least in competitive, only really run them to hit levitating or flying steels like Corviknight

like Hatterene's Mystical Fire

ingame, fewer of those pokemon will run their limited fire moves

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

so you can fuse your Shedinja with anything that has a secondary steel type

I only picked Lucario because it has high attacks and speed, a good movepool, and its frailty doesn't matter

[dark summit]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-bear-chonky-chunky-cute-gif-25906592

[hidden bison]

lol I love it

[dark summit]

I see no difference

[tribal rapids]

Literally my stance when i tell my mum i peed the bed

[lunar current]

Klinklang 👀

[hidden bison]

Slaking + Azumarill is probably the most obvious cheese in the entire game

[lunar current]

Shift Gear too

[hidden bison]

both versions of that fusion, even the one without huge power, have custom sprites

[lunar current]

Out of the biggest cheese Phys Attackers

[tribal rapids]

Would krookodile slaking fusion get moxie?

[hidden bison]

depends on the order you fuse them in I think

[lunar current]

I'm the most inclined to use this one

[hidden bison]

ohhhhhhh

Marowak! I didn't even think of that

does thick club work when fused?

[lunar current]

Of course, Fuse the other 1st for Huge Power

[lunar current]

Yes it does 👀

So does Light Ball

And S T I C K

[tribal rapids]

Stick with super luck absol

[dark summit]

Brave knight

[lunar current]

No Custom

[tribal rapids]

Rip the dream

Add some black to the torso and recolour the stick back and its basically done tho

Or make the stick its horn

[lunar current]

This on the other hand

[hidden bison]

holy heck

[lunar current]

I believe Super Luck is Togekiss' HA

[tribal rapids]

Serene grace + enteis fire move for that 100% burn chance

Sacred fire or whatever its callsd

[hidden bison]

I didn't even know about light ball

so now what's the most busted pikachu fusion

[tribal rapids]

Maybe alakazam?

[lunar current]

This is a contender, but has a 4x Ground weakness

[hidden bison]

well, that's probably the best non-legendary gen 1 pikachu fusion

you'd probably want something faster

[hidden bison]

Pikachu is only fast when compared to other unevolved pokemon

[sharp dagger]

Hey @hidden bison! Are you trying to evolve Pikachu? It evolves with a Thunder Stone!

[hidden bison]

bro

[dark summit]

https://tenor.com/view/grimace-mcdonalds-blink-gif-26695966

[hidden bison]

you'd want something with a good ability too

[hidden bison]

and maybe a physical attacker to make the most of Volt Tackle

[hidden bison]

so... Pikachu plus Pikablu if you get what I'm sayin?

[lunar current]

Remember, Pichu gets Nasty Plot

[hidden bison]

unfortunately, Azumarill is even slower

and the result has almost zero bulk

[hidden bison]

a lot of things get nasty plot

[lunar current]

But yeah, this is going on the team

[hidden bison]

but out of the things that are special about pikachu, the only thing other than light ball is Volt Tackle

oh wait

an ice type! duh

[swift veldt]

I might be wrong but light ball doesn't seem to work if pikachu is on the head slot

[hidden bison]

aw darn that sounds unfortunate

[hidden bison]

cause Pikavile, the electric/ice type, has Pikachu as the head

[hidden bison]

whoever made the sprite did a great job too

[hidden bison]

I'm looking at other Pikachu plus physical ice type fusions

[carmine swift]

Oh god. I have found a horrifying self fusion

[dark summit]

Great ape form

[hidden bison]

I LOVE THAT THING OMG

[dark summit]

https://tenor.com/view/junji-ito-mental-mentally-ill-gif-11630712

[hidden bison]

junji ito vibes

10/10

[lunar current]

Muda intensifies

[hidden bison]

what other fast physical ice types are there?

we have Weavile but Pikavile has pikachu as the head

[hidden bison]

fusiondex+ doesn't list anything better other than, you know, Kyurem

[lunar current]

Just Weavile I think

[hidden bison]

that's a real shame, it had such potential

[lunar current]

And Kyurem of course

[hidden bison]

well that's not entirely sure. there was also Mamoswine

[lunar current]

But it's not fast

[hidden bison]

true

[feral blaze]

I just wanna know who made this. Because volcrana/ charzard looks just beastly

[hidden bison]

and the one with pikachu as the body doesn't even have a custom sprite

[lunar current]

It really does

[hidden bison]

I looked it up, it's someone called svturn.exe

they also made Volcarona and Larvesta fused with all members of the Charizard line

[hidden bison]

poor girl she looks terrified

[lunar current]

Anyway, so far for Weaponized BS we have Whimsicott/Breloom and Azumarill/Marowak

[obsidian iron]

There's a different version with a more normal face iirc

[hidden bison]

I think you'd have to fuse Azumarill and Marowak in the other order and then reverse it

[hidden bison]

WHAT

[lunar current]

I said that earlier

[carmine swift]

XD

[hidden bison]

oh sorry I didn't see with all the image spam

[carmine swift]

That is the Wailord Self Fusion Variant.

[lunar current]

Is that just supposed to be a Wailord/Wailord?

[hidden bison]

I love that, it's perfect

[narrow kayak]

yeah it is

[lunar current]

Beegest boi

[carmine swift]

The main sprite for wailord/wailord is

[hidden bison]

beeeeeeeg boi

[carmine swift]

Beeeeeg Chonky

Oh lawd he Chonkin

[lofty crescent]

Can anyone help me find a nidoran and bellsprout and the evolutions

[sharp dagger]

Hey @lofty crescent! Are you trying to evolve Nidoran? It evolves at level 16!

[hidden bison]

where is nidoran

where to find nidoran

[sharp dagger]

Hey @hidden bison! Are you looking for a Nidoran? You can find them on Route 3, Route 9, Route 22 and in the Safari Zone (Area 1 to 4)! (both genders are found on the same routes)

[hidden bison]

where to find bellsprout

[sharp dagger]

Hey @hidden bison! Are you looking for a Bellsprout? You can find them on Route 5, route 6, Route 7, Route 12, Route 13, Route 14, Route 24, Route 44 and Cerulean Cape!

[hidden bison]

there you go

[lunar current]

Anyway, that's 2 members so far

[hidden bison]

we aren't very efficient at brainstorming, are we?

[lunar current]

Nope, especially with the Sprite spam inbetween and nobody else helping

[hidden bison]

so we have your basic strong physical attacker

and your prankster status user that can spore to do whatever it wants with the free turns

you need a special attacker

[hidden bison]

in a rom hack called radical red, there's a version of Huge Power for special attack

it's called Feline Prowess. it would be perfect to use here.

unfortunately you can't use it here :/

[lunar current]

Same with Insurgence, but I forgot the name of the Ability

[dark summit]

Double tank

[hidden bison]

so some other boosting ability would be best here

maybe Adaptability or-

OOH how about Sheer Force?

[lunar current]

Hmm...

[hidden bison]

intriguing, I quite like it

it doesn't have very high offences on its own

it would need to boost

[lunar current]

Yep, BUT

Via the Move Expert...

Ampharos gets Tail Glow

[hidden bison]

oh yeah I forgot about that!

it's perfect

[lunar current]

Another alternative

[hidden bison]

being paired with rain would be amazing for it too

because then it can use 100% accurate thunders and hurricanes

while gaining speed EVERY TURN

[lunar current]

Unfortunately that would mean bringing in Kyogre as a Starter component if I wanted Drizzl- Oh, or Politoed, why do I always forget about Politoed?

[hidden bison]

do we have pelipper

[lunar current]

Unfortunately not

[hidden bison]

no.

but you can fuse Politoed with something stronger and bulkier than it

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

can you imagine how far you could go with an IF rain team

compound eyes would be great on an electric/flying type that doesn't want to rely on rain as well

with compound eyes, thunder and hurricane have more accuracy than play rough at 91%

[lunar current]

Cough Butterfree Cough

Gets QD in Gen 7 too

[hidden bison]

very good stuff

[dark summit]

The grippers

[hidden bison]

its 80 special attack wouldn't drag its fusion counterpart's own special attack down too much

Pikafree could use light ball to further boost its damage despite its miserable 60 base special attack

but it would likely need multiple boosts to become very threatening regardless

but that's what prankster spore is for :)

omg wait

IT'S SO CUTE I CAN'T HANDLE IT

[lunar current]

Sleep Powder and Tail Glow too 👀

[hidden bison]

I think it's perfect, but it's quite slow

it would probably need Agility too

[lunar current]

So you could go Sleep Powder + QD or Sleep Powder + Tail Glow

[hidden bison]

one of the two

it only has 76 base speed

wait

no im looking at the wrong thing

Amphafree has 65 base speed

but a respectable 103 special attack, boosted by the high base power of Thunder and Hurricane

with Compound Eyes, those moves are 91% accurate, and if you were to give it a wide lens, that becomes 100% (if, like me, you hate constantly missing 90% accurate moves)

[lunar current]

(I hate missing 95% accurate moves, if it ain't 100%, it's 50%)

[hidden bison]

so 91% is literally perfect, it's the lowest accuracy that's a whole number that becomes 100% with Wide Lens

[lunar current]

Yep 👀

[hidden bison]

so it seems like Amphafree is another good mon to have on your team

strong, and adorable

you probably now want something with more bulk

[lunar current]

And realistically, I just need QD and- Wait...

Wait a minute...

[hidden bison]

oh?

[lunar current]

Tempted to not go for Sleep Powder...

But instead... T-Wave...

[hidden bison]

t-wave would be another decent option

also I just realized

everything I just said about electric/flying with thunder and hurricane

also applies to electric/ice with thunder and blizzard

[lunar current]

True!

OR Ice/Electric

[hidden bison]

but compound eyes is on Butterfree

no electric or ice types

[lunar current]

I think we both know where I'm going with this

Oh how wrong you are

Galv's in the game 👀

[hidden bison]

OH

I forgot!!

[lunar current]

Sticky Web too!

[hidden bison]

let me try to find a good ice type for it

we've got the mildly horrifying Jyntula...

https://if.daena.me/124.363/

which has respectable stats in special attack and speed

wait does Galvantula even learn thunder? I'm pretty sure it does

the slower but stronger Galatula

[lunar current]

By TM, yes

[hidden bison]

so pick your favorite of Jynx or Glaceon

Jynx for more speed or Glaceon for more power

[lunar current]

Glaceon, no hesitation, it's one of my favorite Ice types and that looks sleek

Love how it sort of gets an Antlion vibe too

[hidden bison]

also the glaceon fusion looks less like a nightmare

I think I'll be using that when I pick up the game myself

[lunar current]

Yep, it's actually really pretty

[hidden bison]

boltbeam is never a bad thing to have

but it's bad defensively

[lunar current]

BoltBeam on steroids 👀

[hidden bison]

boltbeam more like... blizzder?

[ornate gazelle]

Agree ;), glad you liked it

[hidden bison]

thunzzard?

sounds much dumber

I know if I used it, I'd slap on Agility or something

idk if Galvantula learns a better boosting move

[lunar current]

Blidaga(Final Fantasy ftw)

[hidden bison]

but I guess webs synergizes really well with this speed tier

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

Thunder, Blizzard, webs, and... something else

[lunar current]

Plus with Blizzard and Thunder, doesn't need boosting

[hidden bison]

the fourth move could be anything

t-wave perhaps

[lunar current]

T-Wave is perfect

[hidden bison]

I never even thought of this fusion, this is why I love brainstorming fusions with others :)

[lunar current]

So we have Whimsicott/Breloom, Azumarill/Marowak with Huge Power and Thick Club, Shedinja/Klinklang(Maybe), and Glaceon/Galvantula

[hidden bison]

so that's 3 or 4

you probably want a sturdy wall to tank hits if you find yourself in a tough spot

[lunar current]

Yep, honestly doesn't matter if Gear Grind misses due to Wonder Guard

[hidden bison]

maybe something with Regenerator or Magic Guard

what Regenerator mons do we have?

[lunar current]

Definitely

Slowbro comes to mind for a wall

[hidden bison]

Magic Guard is good in competitive with all the passive damage flying around

but ingame I imagine it's far less common

Slowbro with eviolite I imagine?

[lunar current]

So something unevolved with it that'll pair well

... Hold on a sec...

[hidden bison]

no, Slowbro is unevolved

do both need to be?

[lunar current]

Slowpoke is unevolved

Not Slowbro

[hidden bison]

what about slowking...?

[lunar current]

Thought of this with Slowbro btw, but as you can see... Autogen

[hidden bison]

Slowbro is unevolved. it can evolve into Slowking.

[sharp dagger]

Hey @hidden bison! Are you trying to evolve a Pokémon? It probably evolves differently in Infinite Fusion! Ask me "how to evolve [prevo name]" to get more info! Make sure to spell the Pokémon correctly.
You can also check the Wiki for more info: https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Differences_with_the_official_games

If you're wondering about how fusions evolve in general, you can check out #fusion-faq!

[hidden bison]

it's a 3-stage mon

and also regenerator is its hidden ability or something

[lunar current]

How to evolve Slowpoke

[sharp dagger]

Hey @lunar current! Are you trying to evolve Slowpoke? It evolves into Slowbro at level 37, or into Slowking with a Water stone!

[lunar current]

See?

[hidden bison]

ohh it's a split evo

I must have badly misremembered

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

sorry

almost everything with Regenerator has it as its HA

except, according to bulbapedia:

Audino, the Mienshao line, Tornadus, the Eldegoss line, and that's it

none of whom are in IF

I don't even remember how you get hidden abilities in IF

[lunar current]

No worries, I know how to HA Pass

[hidden bison]

Good good

Slowbro is already a great wall on its own thanks to regenerator

But what about fusing it with something even bulkier

[lunar current]

Wait... Possible Normal/Psychic...

[hidden bison]

Normal and psychic is pretty good. Not many resistances but it's a Normal not weak to fighting and a Psychic immune to ghost

[lunar current]

Leaving only MM Erika and MM Koga

[hidden bison]

MM?

[lunar current]

Modern Mode

[hidden bison]

Do their types change?

[lunar current]

Yep

Erika's Bug and Koga's Dark

[hidden bison]

I see

Well no matter what you make, it'll have some weaknesses

[lunar current]

Crap

The Def drops too much

[hidden bison]

nah

that defense is still WAY higher than Blissey's

this thing would be bulky as HELL

with that monstrous HP stat too

that's likely one of the best fusions for Slowbro possible, and the sprite is adorable too

[hidden bison]

76 defense is plenty with that much HP

I might just have to use that myself

want something even bulkier, Chansey plus Slowbro can hold Eviolite and its defenses are barely lower

this is the face of an unkillable tanking machine

[hexed hornet]

lol

[upbeat timber]

Oh god

[muted cargo]

Im not telling you what this fusion is made of

[hidden bison]

its special defense lowers by 20 points but it's still the very good 96

[hidden bison]

and its physical defense is only one lower than Blisbro's

its HP is a whole 3 base points lower

Chanbro is absolutely the best of the two if you're gonna use eviolite

most of its lowered stats are its special attack

but if you're not attacking, who cares?

[lunar current]

Which is honestly not even a factor

[hidden bison]

I'm DEFINITELY using Chanbro when I play this game again

[lunar current]

Yeah, it's going on as member 4 or 5 depending on if Shedinja/Klinklang makes it in or not

[hidden bison]

it can probably shrug off super effective hits too

[lunar current]

That makes 1 or 2 more mons

[hidden bison]

yup

it's probably good to have multiple of each kind of attacker

[lunar current]

Definitely

[hidden bison]

Shedinja/Klinklang is a special attacker, right?

[lunar current]

Phys

[hidden bison]

ah got it

I keep forgetting what Klinklang is

so you'd want a second special attacker in case Galatula faints in battle

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

might as well give it a different typing too

[muted cargo]

: )

[hidden bison]

we already got azumarill + marowak but thanks

[lunar current]

Might I bring up Chandelure/Nidoking again? 👀

[muted cargo]

Consider the following:

[hidden bison]

we KNOW

[muted cargo]

:3

[lunar current]

Yes yes, we know

[hidden bison]

and azumarill plus marowak gets huge power AND thick club for quadruple attack

[lunar current]

And Azumarill/Marowak has a better typing too

[hidden bison]

a better offensive typing for sure

who doesn't want STAB earthquake

[lunar current]

One of the best in the game both offensively and defensively

[hidden bison]

more weaknesses but also more resistances and an immunity

[lunar current]

Oh wait, Chandelure/Nidoking would overlap with Azu/Maro

Both are Ground

[hidden bison]

oh yeah that's true

[hidden bison]

wait, it doesn't even add more weaknesses, it just worsens the Grass weakness

the main issue with Azumawak is its incredibly low speed of 46

[lunar current]

Yeah

[hidden bison]

but Azumarill learns Aqua Jet :)

and does either of them learn a speed boosting move? like Agility or whatever?

it already has all the attack it could need so it just needs to be faster

[lunar current]

I have a potential solution

[hidden bison]

though even with Agility it would need to use it several times

[hidden bison]

trick room?

[lunar current]

We could start genking peeps

[hidden bison]

...?????

[muted cargo]

I wanna give Serene Grace to pokemon

for the funny

[hidden bison]

ohhhh

wait what's so important about genking

[lunar current]

Also has cooler alt sprites, but I like this goofball

Trades power for a lot more speed

[hidden bison]

even that "a lot more speed" is only 93

and it seems very frail too

[lunar current]

Yeah

[hidden bison]

the same speed as Glatula, who resolves it with webs

so I guess as long as you send out Glatula first? to get webs up?

[lunar current]

And T-Wave

[hidden bison]

even then, Genking is special, Azumawak is physical

what does Genking have to do with Azumawak being slow

[lunar current]

It's not the Speed overlap

It's the increased Grass weakness

[hidden bison]

you still need a different physical attacker then

if you're not using Azumawak

[lunar current]

... I think I just solved our Grass weakness overlap issue

[hidden bison]

OHH you were pointing out a problem with the team

sorry I was misunderstanding

[lunar current]

Doesn't have a damage boosting Ability...

Buuuuuuut...

👀

[hidden bison]

oooooooh

great power, but its speed is lower than 100 and it's frail

[lunar current]

Power, workable Speed, and only weak to Fairy

[hidden bison]

true true

[lunar current]

Also access to Nasty Plot

[hidden bison]

lol I guess Glatula will be your dedicated lead

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

I suppose that opens up more options for your team

cause you don't need to be as fast

also Chanderoark looks SO COOL

[lunar current]

Check out this alt too 👀

[hidden bison]

THAT'S ALSO SO COOL

[lunar current]

Now, the team's either complete... OR...

We need a 2nd Phys Attacker

[hidden bison]

on my own teams I try to have at least 2 special attackers and 2 physical attackers

often, one of those roles will become 3 and the last team slot would be a wall or utility

and you can also have 2 special, 2 physical, and 2 utility

for your second physical attacker, I have an idea

Rock Head

what pokemon in IF have rock head?

obviously the Geodude line, Marowak line, Onix line, Rhydon line, Sudowoodo...

[lunar current]

Aron line, Aerodactyl(Which doesn't actually get any recoil moves strangely enough)

[hidden bison]

obviously the ultimate combo is rock head plus head smash for spammabale 150 base power attacks, but head smash only has the accuracy of hydro pump

but you could spam double-edge, or Wood Hammer from sudowoodo

fuse it with a bird and you get recoil-free brave bird

fuse it with other mons that learn Wave Crash or Flare Blitz

out of all these moves, Basculin is the mon with rock head that learns the most of them, but Basculin isn't in IF

[lunar current]

Better mean smash it with a hammer

Otherwise... If a mod catches you

[hidden bison]

better smash it with Earthquake :)

[lunar current]

Might be workable with Choice Band?

[polar python]

No like smash

[lunar current]

Whelp, that's a rule break then

[hidden bison]

oooh. perhaps. flying really does reduce the weaknesses of rock

weak to fighting, grass, and ground? not anymore

Smack down be like:

[polar python]

Anyone else know this reference

[hidden bison]

Mad mew mew?

[lunar current]

Oh yeah, hey there Mad Mew Mew

[polar python]

Thank you

[hidden bison]

But unironically that Jynx goes hard

[lunar current]

Gets Head Smash, Brave Bird, Flare Blitz, and Wood Hammer too

[hidden bison]

Sounds amazing

Just pick your favorite 4

[lunar current]

Alternatively, Life Orb

[hidden bison]

Does rock head prevent life orb damage?

[lunar current]

Sadly no

[hidden bison]

Aw darn

[lunar current]

So maybe Choice Band is actually the way to go

[hidden bison]

But that's still just 10% of your health in recoil

Because it cancels the move's actual recoil

[lunar current]

True, as opposed to "Where'd my HP go?"

[hidden bison]

Obviously you want head smash and brave bird for STAB

Wait no you can use all 4 of its moves

I misread and thought it was 5 smh

[lunar current]

Yep, and Flare Blitz and Wood Hammer make excellent coverage for the team

[lunar current]

There are actually 5 options, but 1's Double-Edge

[hidden bison]

Double edge is the worst of them cause no super effective

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

How many Pokemon resist rock, flying, fire, AND grass

[finite ember]

I want to make the best Gyro Balluser I can. any sugguestions?

[hidden bison]

Steel resists rock flying and grass but not fire

[hidden bison]

slow

[finite ember]

yes, I know that part

[hidden bison]

Steel

[lunar current]

Very slow, with Curse

And as high Attack as you can get too

[finite ember]

yeah but what kind of ability would I want? do I want a fusion with a pokemonw ith recovery or go all out on attack?

[hidden bison]

And because you're using curse, also make sure it's not a ghost type

Prolly wanna be as bulky as possible with recovery cause you'll take a lot of hits

And you likely want something with good special bulk in particular cause that's what Curse isn't boosting

[finite ember]

steelix/weezing would let me keep bulk and give me levitate along with curse

[twin olive]

LMAO

[hidden bison]

Lol

Wait

Sus

[finite ember]

ttar/steelix would also get me sand stream which would help with the bulk being rock/steel

[hidden bison]

True

But rock and dark are both terrible combined with steel

Defensively at least

Which is what matters most if this gyro ball user is gonna be taking this many hits

[lunar current]

Hmmm... Make the other 1st for Huge Power then Reverse?

[finite ember]

azumarill body fusions have huge power

[hidden bison]

They both make you quad weak to fighting, and rock makes you quad weak to ground as well

[lunar current]

Read what I said

[finite ember]

oh I see

[lunar current]

Mind you, you can simply relearn Curse on this

[hidden bison]

Tyranitar was absolutely nuts in other ways because rock/dark is terrible

[lunar current]

And gets Gyro Ball at 20

[hidden bison]

Though dark and steel synergizes better cause steel resists fairy

[lunar current]

Water/Steel is also a pretty great typing

[hidden bison]

I agree though, Azumalix seems like close to your best gyro ball user

Water means you're not weak to fire and also at least means you can hit the ground types you're still weak to with super effective damage

[finite ember]

hmmmm

[lunar current]

Plus Aqua Jet

[hidden bison]

Yes, aqua jet

[lunar current]

Azumalix is still definitely more powerful

[hidden bison]

Ferrolix? Also good, and it's even slower, but the power of gyro ball does have a cap, and without huge power it's much weaker

[finite ember]

who at gamefreak thought gyro ball was a good move to teach to electrode?

[lunar current]

Ball

[hidden bison]

It also doesn't have a secondary type to patch up weaknesses or give it secondary stab

[lunar current]

It makes sense

[hidden bison]

Darn, you said it first

Ball

[lunar current]

But doesn't synergize

At all

Luckily, Electrode's a great Body for Special Attackers in this

Super fast and Electric type

[hidden bison]

Yup

And the head can contribute its actual special attack stat

[lunar current]

Yep, it already has Base 80, so you're not losing much

[hidden bison]

Thinking about different fusions is so fun

[lunar current]

I just realized

[finite ember]

making incredibly wack gimmicks is the best part

[lunar current]

Why is this actually an amazing mon?

[hidden bison]

IGNAGXISBDJFJABJD IN BSJF

Hold on lemme look closer

[lunar current]

That SMUG face

And Tail Glow

[finite ember]

reminder that ampharos fusions can learn tail glow at the heart scale tutors

[lunar current]

As I said it

[hidden bison]

High speed, good special attack, tail glow, mono electric

[lunar current]

So only ONE weakness

[hidden bison]

Yeah

[finite ember]

I think you can also teach it parabolic charge

[hidden bison]

It's quite frail, but chip damage could definitely be healed off with parabolic

[lunar current]

Can Fuse the other 1st then Reverse for Soundproof

[hidden bison]

What would soundproof do for it other than being barely more useful than static

And blocking Roar I gusss

[lunar current]

Ever heard of Sonic Boom being a pain early on?

[finite ember]

if this game had pvp it would block special flygon fusions with boomburst

[hidden bison]

Oh, true

[lunar current]

And blocking Hyper Voice from Sylveon Fusions

[hidden bison]

...why specifically that?

[lunar current]

Or Hyper Voice period

[finite ember]

cuz it's fun

[hidden bison]

But what makes it overpowered I don't get it

[lunar current]

Or just all Sound based moves so no Supersonic either

[hidden bison]

OH

[lunar current]

Remember Sylveon?

[hidden bison]

Oh I was completely misunderstanding everything you just said

You're still talking about soundproof

[lunar current]

Yep

[hidden bison]

[lunar current]

Soundproof is actually a good ability

[hidden bison]

It is for sure

[lunar current]

And think of another possibility

[hidden bison]

Did you know that Pixilate is so good that in gen 9, Sylveon is the only Pokemon that ever uses Hyper Beam

[lunar current]

What can easily take out ||Zapmolcuno|| and is sound based?

[hidden bison]

With Pixilate it's such a powerful nuke that it's worth the recharge

[finite ember]

had no idea bug buzz counted as a sound based move

that's neat

[lunar current]

This is a hint for the most potent use of Electrode

[winged pebble]

slow choke

[lunar current]

Or Soundproof in general

[lunar current]

Iiiiiiiit's gonna choke ya

Very slowly

Wait... I think Soundproof blocks Yawn too

[hidden bison]

That pose is making me laugh so hard omg

Look at that dumb face

[winged pebble]

hes kickin his feet n shi

bros a cutie patootie

[lunar current]

Look at all the annoying or good moves that Soundproof blocks

Of course, some don't apply here

But look at those Special Attack drops that it prevents

And the move I mentioned is in there too

[hidden bison]

I just realized soundproof probably works well with substitute

[lunar current]

It does

[lunar current]

Allow me to reveal what I mean

Pair Electrode with a mon that can learn it, and the fight might as well be over

[twin olive]

Why electrode

Speed?

[lunar current]

Incredibly fast and has Soundproof access

[twin olive]

ah I see

[hidden bison]

Oooomg

[lunar current]

So IF it lives, it can stay in

[twin olive]

Does soundproof block your own perish song or smth

[lunar current]

Yes it does!

[twin olive]

cuz otherwise you can just use prankster murkrow lol

[hidden bison]

Holy heck that sounds amazing

I didn't know that

[twin olive]

it's quite hard to believe lmao

[finite ember]

I think there's a new challenge encounter in the playtest that has a perish song soundproof fight

[twin olive]

Jeez

wait

iirc soundproof blocks sound moves unless you used it

Lemme confirm on showdown

[hidden bison]

Or just look it up on Bulbapedia

[twin olive]

that too

[twin olive]

But yeah the desc does say this

[hidden bison]

Darn that would have been awesome

[twin olive]

Wait lemme get into a showdown battle to confirm how that works

[hidden bison]

I mean you can still switch out of your own perish song

So it's not a giant loss

[finite ember]

just one quick addition to my gyro ball user: hammer arm would be a good move to have to go with it

[hidden bison]

I agree

[lunar current]

Or you can just spam Curse

[finite ember]

curse to setup attack, then hammer arm anything that resists

[lunar current]

Honestly... I say we continue to theorycraft, I'm not really sure about this one

[finite ember]

reckless brave bird > rock head brave bird

[twin olive]

Unfortunately the strat does not work

[finite ember]

using gen 7 rules?

[twin olive]

I'll check with gen 7

This was g9bh

[finite ember]

Generation VIII onwards

Pokémon with Soundproof are no longer immune to their own moves; consequently, if a Pokémon uses Perish Song, it will now gain a perish count even if it has Soundproof.

strat works in gen 7, but not after

[twin olive]

nvm I cant

[twin olive]

I see

Gotcha

[lunar current]

And this game uses Gen 7

[twin olive]

ooooh

So it would work

[lunar current]

Yep

Hoo boy, this looks like something out of Kamen Rider

[twin olive]

WAIT

What's zapmolcuno's typing?

Fire Ice Electric?

[finite ember]

yes

[twin olive]

Or does it also have a flying type

[lunar current]

I believe so

[twin olive]

Hmm

So it's quad weak to rock and ground

[lunar current]

Oop, yep, Flying too

So Rock Slide nukes it

[twin olive]

Does this game have hidden abilities

[tribal rapids]

Yeah

[lunar current]

Of course

[twin olive]

Hmm

Anyway

[lunar current]

Maybe? 👀

[twin olive]

Let's say you gave this a choice scarf....

Reckless + Head Smash with stab and 150 atk

[lunar current]

Replacing the one in that image for this one

[lunar current]

The Head Kicking Pokemon

[twin olive]

A single target attack only hits one of zapmolcuno right

[tribal rapids]

Yeah

[twin olive]

And a spread move hits all of them

[tribal rapids]

Thats why rock slide is nice vs it

[twin olive]

Right?

Hmmm

[tribal rapids]

Yup

[lunar current]

Thus my idea here, Sheer Force and decently speedy

[twin olive]

Does zapmolcuno have a speed stat of 100

Or 300

[finite ember]

how tf is steelix 60kg lighter than snorlax

what

[twin olive]

f a t

[tribal rapids]

Coz snorlax likes to monch

[twin olive]

I assume ~100?

[tribal rapids]

And i believe zapmolcuno is 100

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got it

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Or around it at least

[lunar current]

So Choice Scarf and this should one shot

Theoretically

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Sheer Force life orb rock slides anybody?

Really taking advantage of the flinch chance here

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No because sheer force removes the flinch chance in exchange for a boost in power

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Yeah that's what I meant

Taking advantage of the flinch chance of rock slide

To boost sheer force

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Ah I see

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mb, worded it wrong

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Is that an app?

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@naive current

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Nice