custom-outfits-discussion

[pulsar spoke]

So, "Team Rocket Executive M/F" outfit is more or less on the "to do eventually" list for CC options, but what about another PokeAni addition, like Jessie and James' white Rocket uniforms? It's implied that before Ash came along, they were considered Elite members, so perhaps one could simply call their outfits "Rocket Elite Uniform M/F"?

Then again, in the anime, other "Elite" Team Rocket members, such as the duo of Butch & Cassidy, as well as Domino from the Mewtwo Returns special, all seem to wear slightly less fancy versions of outfits clearly based on Proton and Petrel's uniforms, and those two are considered Executives/Admins...

Honestly, I consider the kind of outfits worn by Archer and Ariana in Gen II/HGSS the de facto "Executive" look, while what Petrel and Proton wear are a step below that, and reflect their lower position on the totem pole so to speak, where they order grunts around but end up being bossed around by Archer and Ariana in Giovanni's absence circa HGSS.

Meanwhile Jessie and James are total outliers visually, when you consider the outfits of other "Elite" members...

I dunno...

Maybe make the Archer/Ariana designs the actual Team Rocket Exec. outfits, base an "Elite" uniform off of what Proton/Petrel wears and take cues from outfits worn by other named female Rocket members in the anime like Cassidy and Domino to design a female version, and then Jessie and James' uniform is designated as a "Custom" Team Rocket uniform?

[high sail]

Is there no way to have a more feminine face? There is all this great gear for customization, but seemingly only red's boy face

[latent hazel]

not any plans for facial customization, you'd have to download a pack or edit the sprites yourself for that

as a side note: I have no say in it

[high sail]

Hmm. Alright. Any idea where the sprites id need to edit are located?

[latent hazel]

nope, I don't actually do file editing sorry

[high sail]

No offence at all to those whod wanna doll up red. Just wondering if i could alter it a bit. Dont think changing the sprites face or avatar face will affect the outfits overlap too much as long as i keep the sizes the same

[high sail]

No worries. Im sure someone would

[latent hazel]

yeah it's all good I just can't help since idk how

[high sail]

Or perhaps i could make a mask type item that basicly replaces faces in the different skin tones. Hmm

[latent hazel]

since hats have layers, you can replace a hat sprite
but at that point it'd just make more sense to locate the trainer sprite

[high sail]

Ye

Just wondering which would be better / easier. And if i do it the mask way it might be more sharable

Depending on how they do it that is. Food for thought if anyone has comments

[pulsar spoke]

Honestly, altering the face shape of the trainer sprite seems like the easiest method, since most face covering masks seem to either be just big enough to cover the lower half of Red's face, or are larger than their face overall, like Ogerpon's masks.

So long as the eye shape can comfortably fit most of the same glasses, while also being distinctly more feminine, it should work out.

[deft oracle]

Apologies if this is a dumb question but where can i find the base female trainer sprite? I can’t seem to find it

Not the unclothed one, just like Leaf or whatever her name is

[latent hazel]

there's only one base

[outer basin]

Yep, we use one unisex model
Any differences in body shape are added through the shape of the clothing options

That model is unclothed so that the game can position the clothing customization on top of it

You can find the spritesheets for the model in #custom-outfits-submissions

[latent hazel]

should I make base hair color alts or is just leafeon colored?

[latent hazel]

im not spriting this

[lone yoke]

I don't blame you!

that looks incredibly cool and also like it would be HELL to make

[latent hazel]

tbh not too bad compared to other sprites

[sturdy wedge]

new games might mean new character customization rewards

[latent hazel]

can somebody remind me later to work on customization? I need to finish the leafeon hats and post them

[snow escarp]

How much later?

[cedar sail]

Does anyone one know who did these sprites for the team Magmaqua grunt?
I kinda dig the look, and would like to try an make a player costume for PIF.

[vapid gyro]

this is your reminder

[latent hazel]

whoops

[ionic lichen]

I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier, is there a way to make this a little more asymmetrical? I feel like Mega Bannette is just insanely asymmetrical and the pants/bottom on this seems too perfect

[next cosmos]

That's gonna be a monster to sprite

[latent hazel]

not anytime soon, sorry

[ionic lichen]

Oh no there's no rush, I just neglected to say it before. It's such a cool outfit I would actually be willing to pay for custom one for myself, hence why I wanted to give the feedback

[frozen lark]

If I had to add anything, it would be a hoodie featuring Mega Banette's headshape, as that's where a lot of the asymmetry comes from. Have it sit a little more lopsided, kind of like a wizard's hat or some kind of night cap.

Also just shoutout to weeniedesu on Twitter for how they incorporated the teeth with this

[next cosmos]

Hey are you still wanting to do this? I can take a stab at it if not c:

[vivid delta]

i am i just couldnt do much of it for a while

[twin oyster]

ok completed 2 of klaras outfit sheers enough for @short helm to not send assassins to me just yet

[glacial dove]

So... If we're making Hats, we only need to make them in each of the 4 Cardinal Directions 4 times?

[cedar sail]

you just need to do Up, Left,Right and Down once.

it would be the same for all animations, since the head doesnt realy changes places.

look for the templates here : #custom-outfits-submissions message

[glacial dove]

...All of those Templates are for the People, not the Hats.

[autumn horizon]

the hats go on top of the people

that's how hats work

[lone yoke]

it's these two

You need to draw the hat on another layer on top of these bases, then remove the bases and upscale x2 before submitting

[latent hazel]

you actually hgave to make 30 hats and outfits fdor the contest trust

oh idea.... entire cake on head

[latent hazel]

also these are good to post?

[exotic haven]

I don’t know if I missed something, but unlike the johto outfit quest, the Hoenn outfit quest only offers headgears. Are the hoenn trainer outfits not in the game yet?

[latent hazel]

check the outfit list

[latent hazel]

which of these should I work on?

[lone yoke]

I'm partial to big slice of cake

[latent hazel]

also should I stylize it more like slurpuff and the whipped dream?

[lone yoke]

I mean, I was able to assume it was a slurpuff hat

so I think it's good enough

[full quartz]

this makes slurpuff seem very big

[ionic lichen]

Alpha Slurpuff

[crude zealot]

Yooo does anyone know if we're allowed to make outfit sprites of pokemon not in the game?

[stray epoch]

I have no authority but I don’t see why not. Dex entries are allowed to reference Pokémon not in the game, so it’s not like they don’t exist in the world.

[latent hazel]

struggling with palette

[jade dune]

just to make sure, since i'm dense, hats cannot be animated, or hats don't need to be animated

[lone yoke]

hats cannot be animated

[jade dune]

gotcha

thanks

on another story, i'm trying to make galarian weezing's hat as, well, hat. Is this good or should I do some other change? and if it is okay, which version should I use?

also made this variant, actually, since the original "fog" one wouldn't be able to fit within the restrains

so yeah, as a proof of concept, which one?

i will be editing the fog of the left so it actually rotates depending on the position, but yeah

[sour juniper]

I love the fog version!

[latent hazel]

I think the fog adds more recognizablility and color

[ebon sedge]

can already see places where this will need touching up on the template trainer lol, but does anyone have ideas on how to do the propeller in the overhead sprites?

[tough field]

anybody got any pant ideas :(

[arctic ruin]

That’s an adorable hoodie

If I’m assuming correctly that’s the solosis line? Based on it I mean. So maybe a circle design over the pants?

[tough field]

guh

[jade dune]

why not give it pants like this?

sorry i'm late btw

also btw, how's this looking, is this good or should i edit?

[lone yoke]

... hm

It looks good but uh. I just realized something that may be an issue

Probably not but still worth mentioning it, just in case:

Do max height hats work?

The player sprite's head moves quite a bit during some animations, and I'm not entirely sure how the hat layer is added on in game. Would the top of the hat be cut off when the player's head goes up a pixel?

[sudden dirge]

I have an idea

[jade dune]

perfection

[jade dune]

i'll test it first dw

btw

speaking of max height

alas, this is as tall as I can make it

should i make the OW hat shorter?

[sudden dirge]

This’d be fun

[lone yoke]

the whiscap

[arctic ruin]

10/10

[jade dune]

hm, i'm not sure if i should make the OW hat shorter

it'd be more accurate to the trainer sprite

but like

beeg hat

dat's a beeg hat

[jade dune]

btw, tested it, it works just fine

no cut off or anything

[terse flint]

my take on the hat contest
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1367478808067969115

[twin oyster]

hey froggy i had an idea for hoen how about getting new designs for some npc like new uniforms for the magma and aqua grunts i was thinking on running a contest about designing the a new version of the uniforms, with the winning price being i sprite the new uniform for the player character but then i though we could use it to change the npcs too?

[sour juniper]

magma and aqua grunt uniforms would be awesome 😄 We can't really put them on normal NPC trainers directly unfortunately because the sprites don't have the same proportions as the player

[twin oyster]

Obviously i mean do new grunt sprites ill take that as the go ahead and we can see after the contest

[halcyon grove]

-# I want a Courtney outfit

[tough field]

i want archies cool ass chain

[latent hazel]

archie and maxxie wedding event where you get wedding guest outfit, give me 30 dollars /j

[tough field]

im pretty sure youre not the first person to suggest a maxie archie wedding in ih

please god it would be so funny

[twin oyster]

im doing grunts as a proof of concept then well go with the name characters

[sudden dirge]

Hat contste #1367910552139071550

[halcyon grove]

Is the clown nose available in game still or was it only used for the “PIF Revamped”?

(Sheep doesn’t know so I can’t just ask the artist )

[sour juniper]

It is! You get it by donating to the pokemon center clowns

[halcyon grove]

@lone yoke you were right

[lone yoke]

[halcyon cobalt]

i had a feeling it was for donating

[arctic ruin]

I love my child

[sudden dirge]

Your child , well yeah, you can have one

[arctic ruin]

Listen when I really enjoy a creature it becomes my child

I have many pokemon children

[latent hazel]

if anyone is interested

[ionic lichen]

You'd make every Mimikyu so happy

[wind field]

so im kinda cerious is there any way to change the trainer head?

[cedar sail]

you change the hair an heat, the face no. unless you edit the base template.

[latent hazel]

doodles

[arctic ruin]

I hope so

[ionic lichen]

I'd be right there with you. I absolutely adore Mimikyu

[arctic ruin]

Hehe mimikyu is baby and must be cherished

[ionic lichen]

I've found that Alola has the absolute most inspired designs overall, Mimikyu being at the top of the list. The lore, the design, the typing, the Ability, even the name and how you find and capture it in that region, they're all absolutely phenomenal.

[snow escarp]

For the ones with an open mouth it would look better if the jaw also moved, but you would need to do a version for each skin tone base tho

[latent hazel]

hair sprites how tf do you do this, the process for making the files is tedious as hell

[marble socket]

How so?

I've done hair once before. It wasn't crazy bad

[twin oyster]

man i absolutely hate the fishing sheet

[latent hazel]

we gotta ask frog tp remove shipping

shipping???

man I meant fishing what's wrong with me

[halcyon grove]

No removing shipping

We ship all characters

[latent hazel]

I LOVE INFINITE FUSION YURI!!!!

[halcyon grove]

[latent hazel]

I can't hate shipping because I accidentally manifested a crack ship from a non-ship fanfic

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/debauchery-spongebob-gif-25854593

[twin oyster]

considering we entering hoenn removing shipping gonna be imposible theres to much water to get around :v also the steven wallce fans would kill us

[halcyon grove]

And Courtney Shelly fans

[bright crown]

And Archie Maxie fans

[twin oyster]

ok just 3 more rows of the fishing sheet and im done with klaras outfit... im going to eat first

[latent hazel]

I think people need to get more experimental with shipping

[halcyon grove]

Courtney Cassidy

[bright crown]

Surge and Wattson

[halcyon grove]

Wait

Why does that kinda work

[bright crown]

Both electric gym leaders

[halcyon grove]

The image of Surge cooking dinner for Wattson when he comes home from a long day at the gym makes me cackle

[latent hazel]

sorry im just thinking about how in a fandom, a character who has a wife gets shipped with his boss and instead of just doing that, the fandom has unanimously agreed all three are dating and figured out dynamics for that and I think that's beautiful

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/cargo-ship-cargo-ship-mjc-gif-19570172

[latent hazel]

unironically if you find a fandom that can actually be mature with subject matter and characters it is the BEST

[ionic lichen]

Archie Matt

[halcyon grove]

Giovanni Koga

[ionic lichen]

You mean makes you crackle?!

[halcyon grove]

I’m crackling?

[ionic lichen]

||Electricity crackles?||

[latent hazel]

i dont actually know enough about human pokemon characters to make any ships

[halcyon grove]

-# this probably isn’t the channel for it either

[halcyon grove]

Off to #spriter-general with ye

[latent hazel]

I mean
its not getting used much for customization anyways

[twin oyster]

were customizing ships

[ionic lichen]

Lorelei Agatha, bonding over Swampert

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/gohine-hohino-no-hohineee-gohineee-gif-17792172174678204487

[halcyon grove]

?tag rule18

[vast light]

Rule 18 CODE OF CONDUCT: Read channel descriptions and stay on topic. We have channels dedicated for more or less everything so please use them!

[halcyon grove]

-# don’t mind the fact that this channel doesn’t have a description

[latent hazel]

can we keep talking about it if we mention they're wearing hats while kissing

[halcyon grove]

Talk about it in #spriter-general . That’s probably the gayest channel in the server anyways

I need to yeet a custom outfit bug in here anyways

[twin oyster]

thats staff-general but most of us cant enter

[halcyon grove]

Or I’ll make a bug report

[halcyon grove]

Shhhh

[halcyon grove]

It’s the staff furry rp channel

[latent hazel]

whats the current staff furry rp arc

[ionic lichen]

Don't make me post outfit ideas inspired by Archie fanart

[halcyon grove]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[twin oyster]

x2

wait is sfw archie fanart? i dont mind but...

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ban-pubg-lite-banned-rainbow-gif-16212382

[halcyon grove]

Non-rule2 outfits

[ionic lichen]

Also let's be real, the outfits that look best on Archie look good with his curves.
They wouldn't flatter the pencil protagonists

[halcyon grove]

Oh 100%

If someone made a Courtney outfit, I would use it in every single run regardless of theme

[ionic lichen]

Could you sprite it?

[halcyon grove]

I’m not a spriter

[halcyon grove]

I think there’s only like two or three of us mods who aren’t

[twin oyster]

we can modify the protagonist body with full body suits, for example my gym outfit

a more common example is most female outfits having some level of boobage

[ionic lichen]

Got some thighs on that one

[twin oyster]

never skip leg day

[latent hazel]

i attach flowey clothes to my designs to avoid fitting the body

???

literally made the poncho make the shoulders larger

also I've seen tons of people use one of my electric outfits but ive seen the other like

once

[twin oyster]

ok fucking finally @short helm doesnt have to sent the assasins at all

[next cosmos]

Hey @cursive sapphire just letting you know that we had a report of your ramos outfit not working in game when the player dives. Seems you submitted the dive file as clothes_dive_Roserade instead of clothes_dive_Ramos
I've already fixed it and let Frog know, please be careful for now on

[cursive sapphire]

Oh gosh WOOPS

Uh how do I fix this? Just resubmit?

Or would it be renamed?

Also is that an overworld Mantine? Neat

[next cosmos]

I already took care of it, but I suppose you would need to make a folder in the fixed sprites folder of the drive 🤔 Frog would need to be alerted if it's already accepted

[cursive sapphire]

Got it

[cursive sapphire]

Done

Being pinged here reminds me I still have an outfit to make overworld sprites for

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/get-naked-gif-23945829

Dives and shed it all

[next cosmos]

Don't want to get rhe clothes wet, they have the right idea

[ionic lichen]

Archie didn't have to worry about this 😏

[next cosmos]

Nope, that man would say clothing would just slow him down

[outer basin]

Wow
It's child Ghetsis

[latent hazel]

IM FINALLY FREE FROM WORK

I CAN GO BACK TO FORGETTING I HAVE OUTFITS TO SPRITE

[halcyon grove]

Go sprite outfits

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-okay-ooh-ok-ooh-okay-den-ok-den-ok-then-gif-4319417121482316527

[lone yoke]

me with the bisharp outfit

[ionic lichen]

Yeah what happened with that?!

[latent hazel]

spriting hard

[arctic ruin]

Don’t burn out, make sure to relax

[tough field]

I now realize why there are so few outfit spriters

[halcyon grove]

I wouldn’t wish outfit spriting on anyone

[sour juniper]

Clothes are hard but hats are so easy though

[still geyser]

OH GOD A NAKED SPRITE!

[arctic ruin]

Thank you for your sacrifice, it looks amazing

[latent hazel]

MORE POKEMON CLOTH DESIGNS

[tough field]

here’s the full drip btw expect this to be done in like. 5 months

[gloomy pollen]

I kinda want to make some outfits but I got tired just by reading everything I’d need to do

But basically my idea was smt like this

I literally did that in like 10 minutes just so I don’t forget

[snow escarp]

no shoe

[gloomy pollen]

Idk how to draw shoes

[full quartz]

the dogs r out

[tough field]

1 sheet done these are so unfun to do

watch this look like dogshit when put in the game

[slender glen]

someone make the jotaro outfit

[latent hazel]

we can't since the great jojo war of the PIF server

[long frost]

Someone make a Lt. Surge outfit, for coolness points

[latent hazel]

we outta spriters

[long frost]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[lone yoke]

fine but I charge by the sprite

one outfit spritesheet, at what I'm going to pretend is the industry standard of $25 dollars per sprite...
that'll be $2,425

-# this is a joke of course but I want you to understand how much effort a single outfit is lol

[ionic lichen]

You're late to the party #1371000526749044830 message

[lone yoke]

I'm fashionably late to everything

that's just how I roll

[long frost]

yeah i understand that 😦

[ionic lichen]

Fashionably?

[ionic lichen]

"IKILB..."

[latent hazel]

hat

[twin oyster]

Shit @sour juniper i jut realized i left party of the hand and the pokeball in this sprite i'll fix it later todayhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1324893397475004527/1369893410294726666/clothes_trainer_klara.png?ex=682372e8&is=68222168&hm=7b798c3c3948ce6052d86f4d050dcf227e3b809d0d0b96de12e0d479cbb972f5&

[latent hazel]

does this look ready to post?

[twin oyster]

done

[twin oyster]

i did this to track the missing type experts (sorry about the random hairs and hats didnt want to search the correct convos for every fit)

[outer basin]

The Bug Antenna were made to go with the Bug outfit, and the Designer Headphones were made to go with the Electric outfit

I don't know if the other type outfits have matching headpieces

[latent hazel]

water type outfit is straw hat and poison type hat was never added in game (I didn't like it's sprite and could never make it look right)

also isn't there another poison type outfit that's better and actually used? I thought mine was a store purchase

yeah it is

[latent hazel]

should I maybe sprite my dark type outfit concept? it's more emo though

banger concept and sprite ngl

found it

[twin oyster]

Last time i checked mine was the stores purchace

[latent hazel]

check the message below that

[twin oyster]

Oh didnt notice that one ok ill fix it

[latent hazel]

anyways does this dark type fit look good to sprite?

[twin oyster]

Yeah

[lone yoke]

not the raccoon tail hair!

or... I guess... zigzagoon tail

it looks great it just gives me second hand cringe for a friend if mine who had it for way too long

[latent hazel]

I had a friend who wore fox ears and a tail to class

[lone yoke]

ok yeah you win

[latent hazel]

i miss her she was nice

also she did that for like one day

[twin oyster]

heres the one with the corrected poison( i legit though that it was agender diference like with the water one

[latent hazel]

bug and electric still have thw wrong hat

[twin oyster]

yeah

[outer basin]

I just noticed that the R on the forwards walk animation for the Team Rocket female outfit reverses every other frame

[snow escarp]

classic case of duplicating and flipping frames to save some time (and sanity)

[latent hazel]

imagine how long those sleeves are

[latent hazel]

should I try the fishnet shirt or na

also nailpolish or na

[twin oyster]

Nail polish is barely noticable but the fishnet is a yes

[outer basin]

Could you try making the nail polish black?

[outer basin]

I guess it's such a small detail that it'll get lost either way, but I do think the black nail polish is more visible than the red

[latent hazel]

it was more so meant to be the color distribution

ignore that

[vapid gyro]

It's finally time for me to start doing things.

[buoyant prairie]

uhhh i figure i'd bring this up to you?
he's naked

currently wearing the gardener's outfit

[halcyon grove]

It was reported here @buoyant prairie Not sure when the fix will be pushed to the files

[buoyant prairie]

's legit. just wanted to make sure you know
my poor guy lost his swimsuit!

[next cosmos]

Hahaha i was wondering why it seemed a little off to me, I couldn't put my finger in it I can make a fix (but you guys can as well!)

[ancient solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/good-grief-hes-naked-plankton-gif-22598662

[bright crown]

#custom-outfits-discussion message actually it was reported even earlier by me in the past, just never fixed I guess

[next cosmos]

Hey guys, could you tell me what you think of these walking animations? May RS and ORAS. Frog thinks they're fine, but I'm not very confident

[next cosmos]

We have a category for cc in sprite errors now, we didn't see it since this is more of a discussion thread. I only saw and fixed it cause Sapphire posted about it in a dev channel

[bright crown]

ah ok

[next cosmos]

No worries! There honestly wasn't a better place to put it, and I forgot to spread the word about the new errors tag

[next cosmos]

Also anyone here is welcome to try to fix these types of errors, since you're able to submit fixes to the drive ||it would help out a lot lol||. We just dont really get any reports so there's nothing there right now

[twin oyster]

look fine to me the hair moves a lot but it works for runing so i guess its fine

[next cosmos]

Cool beans, thanks!

[terse flint]

it turns out that making hats is quite hard
i need to make sure the hat doesn't blend in any hairstyles
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1373537751105929316

[fading holly]

Does anyone know if the hat I submitted is in. Or where I would find that info

The orange hat

Like the fruit

I don't know why I didn't mention that in the original message tbf

[next cosmos]

Have you checked the drive? It wouldn't be in the submissions folder if it was accepted. If it was it would be in the accepted folder, and if if it was rejected it would be in a different folder too

[fading holly]

I don't see it in the accepted, or the rejected

And its not in submissions either

[next cosmos]

How did you submit it?

And where

And what's the file/folder name

[fading holly]

I had put it in the Submissions Drive and into the Hats section as the name orange

And made it as a folder with both

[next cosmos]

Alrighty let me see if I can find it

You made a folder inside of another hat that was in the submissions folder, not in the actual submissions folder. So since it's technically in the submissions folder it means that Frog hasn't gotten to it yet, but please be more careful in the future

[fading holly]

Thats weird, i dont remember doing that

Im sorry

[next cosmos]

I don't know if you can move it, but please try to put it in the right spot. Let me know if you can't. It's okay

[fading holly]

I moved it

it should be in the right section now

[next cosmos]

Awesome thank you! Frog takes a while to review submissions and get them in the game. There's a hat contest going on right now and I know he said he was planning to review after it's over

[fading holly]

I don't think my little fruit would win the contest, and prolly needs to be made after announcement

[next cosmos]

Submit anyway, you never know! I don't know if a lot of people entered

[fading holly]

it is like 16 pixels

I don't think I'm winning shit

[next cosmos]

You don't have to if you don't want to, it's your choice

[echo mirage]

Is there a simple way to test hats ingame? I have debug

[latent hazel]

not that I know of other than manually adding them in game

[echo mirage]

right but if you add them how do you enable them

replace an existing hat?

^that works

[latent hazel]

replace an existing hat is all I know

[echo mirage]

workin on a zigzagoon hat (obviously)

#1374855613787410512

[light heath]

I'm making a Giratina hat!

[latent hazel]

fixing errors time

[latent hazel]

ok, im done

is anyone willing to test these? please dm me so I can send images

[twin oyster]

If no one does it now ill do it tomorrow

[full quartz]

aaAAhh the Green

[lone yoke]

Nickelodeon slime

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes!-my-eyesi-brick-person-human-performer-gif-14164476824641141200

[arctic ruin]

Fren shaped

[trail mason]

Did anyone make Red's battle legend outfit in IF?

If nobody didn't, i'll do it myself.

[ebon sedge]

any thoughts on outfits based on pkmn not in the game? Like an Eelektross hoodie? I designed a bunch of sygna suits for old OCs that I could sprite up but most of them are for non-IF pokemon

[latent hazel]

I made a hat for skitty before it was in the game so I'm sure they can be fit in somewhere if made

[full quartz]

theyre completely fine to be made

they cant break the existing guidelines

thats all

[ionic lichen]

nobody didn't

https://tenor.com/view/schitts-creek-umm-wtf-da-fuq-wait-what-gif-18229906

[trail mason]

So how does it look?

[outer basin]

Do you have a Spritework thread?

[trail mason]

I have one now
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1375777589255344248

[latent hazel]

@twin oyster dm me, I have the dark type outfit

[trail mason]

How does it look?

Share your critism on the thread i posted

[keen field]

is there like a soldier tf2 hat in the game?

[latent hazel]

nope

[trail mason]

Does custom hairs, hats and clothes gets credited in the game?

[latent hazel]

dunno

[trail mason]

Also i made a hairstyle based on one of my friends's OC. I should ask her about first before i submit right?

[sour juniper]

Unfortunately no, but it's something that I do want to add. Part of the issue is that rn just tracking down the credits is time consuming since this is done through google drive

[latent hazel]

there's an outfit sheet here with credits listed

[sour juniper]

I know, but these are all tracked manually too. We need a better system for sure

[latent hazel]

could add a way to submit names while submitting hair/hats/clothes

[sour juniper]

Google drive doesn't really have a good way to do this afaik

[latent hazel]

text file maybe?

[vapid gyro]

You could have the spriters add their name to the metadata, or a tool that does it on submission

[snow escarp]

google form + sheet?

[ebon sedge]

I got a lot to do to get my spriter app in and help team wild before the deadline so this may not happen anytime soon (also I got a big list of things I wanna add clothing-wise) but the terastal hats might be fun

[arctic ruin]

Oooh true

I like your pfp btw

[ebon sedge]

Thank you! Its from a beautiful dnd comic my gf (and dm lol) drew a long time ago, featuring my kenku druid, Bird

ooh a dnd-esque adventurer fit might go hard. I should stop ideating before I explode

[outer basin]

There is one of those in the game! It won a contest, even

[torn basalt]

Does anyone know how to edit your character sprites? In the files? Like color them or change them entirely

[latent hazel]

at this point we need a pinned message related to this, it keeps getting asked

and just replacing your trainer sprites is the way

[halcyon grove]

?tag trainersprites || like this?

[vast light]

6.4 has drastically changed how to change your appearance in game. Old themed sprites to change your character to a different NPC will not work anymore. New sprites are being made in #1050404143807873157 if you filter by Player Customization.

Below is how to apply NEW customizations to your player character as long as you are on version 6.4.7 or higher:

Example of overriding default clothes to Hex Maniac:

• If your player character is female, use leaf instead of red in all references below.

1. Delete all the clothes files from: InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Characters\player\clothes\red
2. Copy all the clothes files from: InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Characters\player\clothes\HexManiac
3. Paste the files here: InfiniteFusion\Graphics\Characters\player\clothes\red
4. Rename each file to replace HexManiac with red

• For example, one of the clothing sprites for Hex Maniac is: clothes_bike_HexManiac.png. You would need to rename it to clothes_bike_red.png. Do this for all clothing files.
• Afterwards, open your game, press Escape and go to the Outfits option. The Red clothing will now be Hex Maniac instead. The same concept is applied for hair and hats.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1031005766359982190/1343388473037426688/Screenshot_2025-02-23_124103.png?ex=67bd1782&is=67bbc602&hm=16d869d38ca49fd56d61b90772075dbaf15232f8c9c6ee1ffd54f1356c5affa8&

[torn basalt]

What does your look like ?

[torn basalt]

Well I meant like people are changing there hair and stuff or I guess making custom sorites

Sprites *

[torn basalt]

I’m assuming same logic for green

[latent hazel]

man idk

[torn basalt]

Uh what did I do wrong I tried changing the clothes ?

[twin oyster]

U wrote something wrong in the file name

[torn basalt]

I just copied the directions and added leaf instead of red

Like I wanted to give her the winter clothes for female

So it’s confusing since no one is really there to help

[torn basalt]

Like where it said female I just put leaf

Didn’t add the png

[twin oyster]

Whats the full name of the file?

[torn basalt]

Snow coat

So Clothes_bike_SnowCoatMale

[latent hazel]

since sylveon and ho-oh have outfit pieces, should I try making a minior core hat that's floating rainbow stardust and tiny minior? I think it'd be cute (if I have time)

[twin oyster]

Yeah and you changed that one to clothes_bike_leaf rigth and then changed clothes_trainer_leaf and so for with walk run swim etc. Did You remember to change the folder name or move them to the leafy folder?

[twin oyster]

How bout glases with minior eyes?

[torn basalt]

Well uh let me see like change the entire folder name ? Or just the contents inside of it

[twin oyster]

The folder has to be named the same as the contents

[torn basalt]

So I should change the leaf folder name or the snow coat?

[twin oyster]

Snow coat

[torn basalt]

So would I just add leaf?

Edit changed it to clothes_bike_leaf

Changed the rest of them to resemble that

And renamed the folder leaf

Ah it worked

[torn basalt]

Thank you fam

truly

[twin oyster]

Yeah we got there eventually

[torn basalt]

I’m so sorry if I was being slow

[torn basalt]

I’m assuming it’s the same thing for hats ?

[twin oyster]

Yeah

[torn basalt]

Alright I’ll try

Still the same leaf hair maybe I’ll rename hex maniac leaf

And she’s bald

[glass cairn]

I saw the announcement, what new outfits are in?

[finite root]

Is there Cynthia’s outfit anywhere?

[covert raft]

dark and flying i beleive

[finite root]

sorry not played in like genuinely a year maybe 14 months

[covert raft]

yeah dark and flying experts are in

[sour juniper]

I'm compiling the list rn. I'm gonna add it to the full changelog in a few minutes

[glass cairn]

o7 thank you

[twin oyster]

Thats 15 done 3 more to go, rock, grass and psychic

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656>

[stone spear]

Im suprised psychich isnt alrwady here

[silent parcel]

If I wanted to use one of the hair styles that wasn't implemented, how would I go about doing that?

[dry summit]

So what's the new customization stuff added?

[sour juniper]

Everything is listed in here 🙂 https://pastebin.com/HsZDcjAF

[latent hazel]

i appreciate the dark type specialist being added but uh

th
the ghost type

[sour juniper]

I'm just adding them wherever someone makes their outfits!

[twin oyster]

what ohok means is he already sent the ghost type outfit u forgot to include it this round: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1SRB9rWFHdAl-AZ0Kgj8owunUNaxsIIg_

[sour juniper]

Ahh shit I didn't realize. I guess I approved it a while ago and forgot it had been submitted, sorry!! I'll add it for the next update.

[twin oyster]

ok

[latent hazel]

they

it's all good, I'm mainly asking since it was actually a request somebody wanted in the game for a while now

[twin oyster]

sorry

update, hairs and hats still semi random to what i had in my folder

[twin oyster]

really cause that one i think hasnt even had a design proposed if u have any idea we would consider it

[stone spear]

id have to think that over for a bit id have 2 very specific thoughts but 1 of em might not fit on the models

i am gonna hunt that poison ice and steel after

[twin oyster]

ok a clue u can get them all pre league well i dont know about the 2 new ones but all the other ones were so i doubt frogman put them post league

steel is very out the way

[stone spear]

ok
ive only found 2 so far havent beat electric and found fairy and won

[real notch]

I have absolutely no spriting ability (I am learning) but I noticed we have no Psychic Specialist Outfit. Would love to see one in the future! I have an idea or two if anyone needed ideas!

One of the ideas I was thinking was maybe doing something inspired off of Olympia from the Kalos Pokemon Saga, and have it be a cosmic style colored scheme. White/Purple. maybe do like a coat design like the dragon one! I think it would be pretty cool! Could be paired with the floating pokeballs that are earned after beating Sabrina!

[river magnet]

wait are these all in the game rn?

[finite brook]

Mayby we can wear the same armor Mewtwo did in the first Pokémon movie

[latent hazel]

more or less, with debug all are accessible but not implemented

[twin oyster]

Ghost isnt yet (frogman forgot) the rest are in yes

[latent hazel]

I kind want to design the psychic outfit once I'm free

nvm i need to watch an hour long documentary

[river magnet]

I can't find dark flying and ice

[latent hazel]

psychic type outfit concept

[scarlet saffron]

I’m tempted to make outfits like the burst forms from Pokémon ReBurst…actually just Pokémon species themed outfits in general could be fun

[brittle fiber]

Prepare for the most unoriginal design concept for the rock type guy ever.
I will be taking no further questions.

[snow escarp]

naaa rock should just be a regular rock

https://tenor.com/view/rock-everythingeverywhereallatonce-gif-25516405

[twin oyster]

ice is in seafoam islands, dark and flying just got in this patch so no idea were theyre yet

[river magnet]

i got ice and someone in gameplay help said where the others were

[twin oyster]

my last concept for rock was minecraft steve so this is atleast better

[real notch]

Dark is in the rock tunnel. Just go through the entrance next to Lavender town, instantly dart left. He is standing by himself.

He is pretty strong though

Has some good typings

[ebon sedge]

not super done yet I don't think (need more detail on the skates) but a.) is this interesting enough to be an outfit, and b.) if so, is Single Visible Bra Strap allowed? wanted to sprite the outfits from my pokemon oc from uhhh 2013, okay if it doesn't go in the game, it's mostly for me, I just figured I might as well put a bit of extra work in and submit it if I was gonna make it anyways

[arctic ruin]

I’m pretty sure that’s fine, as you could also easily assume it’s just like. A tank top underneath or smth

[sour juniper]

Yeah, it's totally fine

[ebon sedge]

awesome!

also, unrelated mostly, but thoughts on use of the term "sygna suit"? from Pokemon Masters mobile game, I started designing some suits based on the starter triple fusions

[ebon sedge]

not sure if this looks kinda dumb or not... the ones in pokemas are kinda complex but that level of detail doesn't really carry

[latent hazel]

the overworld sprite will be even worst with details lol

it's hard to sprite overworlds

[hollow vale]

Hi friends! It's been a long time since I've been here but I wanna try and submit a few more outfits/hairstyles
Is there a more current to-do list or an unfinished scraps folder of things that need to be done?

I wanted to possibly make some outfits based on Pokemon Unite clothes

(especially since Hoenn soon ™️)

[twin oyster]

Theres a need fixes folder in the drive but im pretty sure is out of date and in the to do list is really just the type specialist for rock and grass

[hollow vale]

Are there designs for them already?

[twin oyster]

Not really i had a concept for rock which was basically minecraft Steve but if u come up with something better pls

Also i guess we can start the gym rewards hats for hoenn

[hollow vale]

Yeah no minecraft
Hmm, maybe rock expert could be something like an archaeologist? geologist?

Grass shouldn't be too hard to design tho

[twin oyster]

There was one concept that was an archeology professor but it was imposible to yranslate the detail to sprite

[hollow vale]

hmmm...

armor treads too far into steel type

[twin oyster]

You think that but they end up looking like hikers which are rock ground and figthing users...

[hollow vale]

lemme look at what unite has for inspo

i think im cooking on the rock one already but we'll see

[twin oyster]

Go for it, just remember u also have to do the overworld

[hollow vale]

yeh thats no problem

[latent hazel]

if you do the rayquaza outfit that means i dont have to do it :]

[hollow vale]

i could also replace the head crystals with goggles or a mining helmet

or some other hat

(this is for rock expert)

i aint drawing the mining helmet

grass expert i took a sort of farmer route for

some of the tinier details on both would only likely appear on the big trainer sprite for simplicity's sake

[arctic ruin]

I like that, very cute

[hollow vale]

I like them both a lot, just not sure if they translate to rock/grass experts

[latent hazel]

adding colors might help with readability maybe

[hollow vale]

yeah for sure

[latent hazel]

also i need to redesign my psychic concept

[hollow vale]

i'll color later

[latent hazel]

as a side note, I have a sprite similar to this design so do you want a ref of it so we dont accidentally make similar palettes

[hollow vale]

Yes please!

my palette is prob gonna be similarish to this (as it was the inspo)

[hollow vale]

that's cute!! i can probably change a couple things here and there with my design to make it look less like that as well

[hollow vale]

rock palette

i figured greens would work better to contrast the ground one's reds

[twin oyster]

Yup makes sense, maybe greys tho?

[hollow vale]

i could change the gold to grey

[ebon sedge]

thoughts on chinchou diving helmet?? ||I hope it doesn't look too ovarian but uhh. Chinchou kinda looks that way. I mean I could get rid of the glowy parts and get normal diving helmet||

[tawdry oar]

The yellow on the fins is a bit iffy. Outline and shading yellow are too similar

[ebon sedge]

....now that I look at it, that's definitely true. Let me take another crack at it in just a few

[ebon sedge]

okay, took less time than expected lol

[stone spear]

Im geniunely tempted to do some of these things myself sprite wise at this point cause
I just wanna see more outfit choices everywhere

[scarlet saffron]

<@&306953740651462656>

[empty cedar]

???

[halcyon grove]

[empty cedar]

im snail

[scarlet saffron]

I’m not submitting it to the drive, but…made some custom player sprites I’ve been using!

[latent hazel]

snail

swag

[scarlet saffron]

Would love any ideas on improving these, the overworld sprites are still a struggle.

[latent hazel]

ironically i drew a snail today

I'd recommend adding another shade to the hair, it's white so one shade makes it pretty bright

[arctic ruin]

<@&306953740651462656>

They put this everywhere

[hollow vale]

gonna work on this guy tomorrow
Might make the hair too since there's not anything like it in game currently but unsure

Also umm, I noticed the low braids are credited to blackbosom in the spreadsheet.. I'm the one who made these.

[halcyon grove]

@next cosmos do credit errors for customization stuff go into sprite errors?

[hollow vale]

I can provide proof if needed; my email is the one attached to the drive and i have the original files

Everything else I've made is OK, it's just those that are miscredited 😅

[next cosmos]

Hmmmmmm. Not really, but there are specific people here who has editing access to the drive. There's myself and Leon is the owner of the sheet

Even right now I allow technical customization things in errors, but chanseys have no idea how to handle those, and dont have access to the credit sheet. I tried finding as many people as possible, but it was almost impossible

[hollow vale]

Hmm, that's unfortunate. Hopefully the right person sees it and adjusts it 😅

My guess is that this happened because it looks a bit similar to the low ponytail hairstyle

[next cosmos]

One second, I took off for the night so I need to open everything up again

[halcyon grove]

Sorry paya

[next cosmos]

It's all good

@umbral pulsar Who has editing powers to the credit sheet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19uYNGk5SbBqcsHV155IBcABcIbRatEhkLTwTK2R3LU8/edit?pli=1&gid=891834841#gid=891834841

[next cosmos]

Yeah can you send me your drive email when you get a chance? I want to make sure the proof is good, I'm more than happy to help. Were there any others?

[hollow vale]

I'll DM you! And no, thankfully it's just that one.

[next cosmos]

Sweet

Alrighty all taken care of, it's corrected

Things got weird with untrackable emails and then getting moved from one place in the drive to another, it stopped showing who the original was in some cases

[umbral pulsar]

If you spot any miscredits, feel free to ping me or leave comments directly to the sheet. If anyone would like to improve the sheet, you can request edit access~

[hollow vale]

Will do in the future! Luckily that was the only one

[next cosmos]

I would be open to opening more in errors for this, but I would need some people who are okay with checking in for reports of that specific category, or okay being pinged to handle it

It like never happens, but it would be good for the few times it does

that being said, if you guys find any other mistakes or know any of the uknowns, I would love you forever. I worked for days trying to track a lot of them down so don't feel bad!

[hollow vale]

re-tooling the grass trainer a bit

not sure if flower cape better or normal cape

[twin oyster]

I already handle a lot of the stuff that have to do with outfits i could help with outfits crédits 2

[cold crest]

Hi everyone! This is the first outfit I've ever designed, and I’d really appreciate any feedback to understand what works and what I could improve. Thanks so much in advance.

It is a Luchadore mask based on Hawlucha

[hollow vale]

That looks really good! I don't think there's anything you can improve on it tbh.

Colors look good, shading looks good.

[twin oyster]

Yup everything look good just make sur to use the templates so that its correctly aligned

[cold crest]

Thank you all so much! Where can I find the templates to use?

[hollow vale]

#custom-outfits-submissions

beeg hair

[latent hazel]

jesus christ this is the most active this chat has been since... since.......

[pulsar spoke]

ever?

or at least since a couple months ago or something

[hollow vale]

i was bored, what can i say

[hollow vale]

These have been chucked into the hair drive! Enjoy

[hollow vale]

also working on this one because why not

(the hair just gets cut off by the wing)

[rancid nymph]

hello i like to make my character outfit to the game

[rancid nymph]

i already made this

[rancid nymph]

doing these are so tedious

[twin oyster]

Yeah we know thats why we advance so slowly with them

[rancid nymph]

i am prety new to this i did this only once before

when there where no outfits or hats

only imported custom characters manualy

but i lost those sprites

i do have this one still and used it as a refrence for the outfit i am remaking

[cold crest]

So, I've tried to make another mask, this time based on Glalie. What do you think about?
I've made two version: The first one with original eyes and the second one with the Glalie's Blue eyes.

[arctic ruin]

I like blue personally

[hollow vale]

i also like the blue

[ebon sedge]

+1 to the blue, I think it makes them stand out better

Thoughts on these?

[hollow vale]

maybe some black outlines here and there on the ow sprite for emphasis? something about it doesnt feel pokemon style to me

as for me im in hell rn

[ebon sedge]

But it’s such a cute hell…

[hollow vale]

it is! i love the dp idol so much 😭

im not sure what i'll do for a masc ver

[twin oyster]

Golden sun looking shading

[opal drift]

Suit maybe?

[hollow vale]

yeah im thinking a prince-like suit since thats the standard "idol" outfit
not as elaborate as these but inspo

[pulsar spoke]

There was something similar in concept used as Brendan's contest costume in ORAS...

Found it

[full quartz]

why was he so swagged out

[halcyon grove]

I’d wear that chain irl, ngl

[full quartz]

same

[hollow vale]

I'd wear that whole fit irl

[full quartz]

need that jacket

[hollow vale]

I think the Sinnoh "idol" just uses the rich boy

i can do better than that...

[hollow vale]

poofs ✨

[latent hazel]

yay!

[hollow vale]

was thinking a flame hair clip could be cute for flannery

alternatively something torkoal or slugma theme

[hidden wind]

Norman should give you his eyebrows

Look how violent his are lmaoo

[cold crest]

I've made a mask based on aron

[full quartz]

Ohhhhhh so awssom

[verbal pumice]

flanneria clothes are interesting but for wattson, the white hair and bald are perfect, for hat , it's hard to think

[hollow vale]

Wattson's typically associated with voltorb so

voltorb hat?

But also

[twin oyster]

I think Watson ace is manectric, atleast in emerald where the team were though out and not randomly pull out of a hat, so a helmet with manectric hair?

[hollow vale]

yeah it was but only in emerald

could work

[digital pike]

idk why but this reminded me of dino storm

[hollow vale]

Putting a lil to do list for myself in here but it also lets yall know what I'm cooking..

- Grass expert outfit and hair

• Rock expert outfit
  -~~ Nurse Joy outfit and hair~~
• Masc version of Nurse Joy??
• Maybe Jenny too
• Male idol outfit and hair
• ~~Fire Water ~~and Grass hair clips

[pulsar spoke]

Ooo~

[ionic lichen]

Why only a hat? Make it a whole head, Voltorb head like AcidCat

[rancid nymph]

do you need to size up the outfits also by 2x

like when making the outfits its 160x160

so is the corect size to size it up 320x320? sorry i am new to this

[hollow vale]

Yes 320x320

[hollow vale]

True...

[rancid nymph]

than i have a done 5 of the 7

[hollow vale]

pain peko

[hollow vale]

[twin oyster]

It's a bit like emerald manga design but more flowery perfect for grass type

[hollow vale]

The idea was to go for something like a druid

I'm happy with how it translated to a sprite!

[hollow vale]

grass expert's trainer, hat, walk and run are done

just gotta do a few more

[latent hazel]

good luck on the fishing sprite 🫡

[cinder perch]

Please add this outfit

Imagine the bisharp, aegislash, slowking fusions with this outfit

Or might be a bit controversial but this would look so cool:

Its something really original

Doesnt have to be about religion, just the design

[lone yoke]

idk how well either of thsoe would translate into sprites tbh. There really isn't that much space to work with on the overworld models

and if by "just the design" you mean "some guy in a chasuble" then it would probably just read as a poncho at that scale

[latent hazel]

I heard the word poncho i am now part of the conversation

[lone yoke]

sleeper agent activation phrase

[latent hazel]

I am kinda concerned about adding roman themed outfits simply for the fact that the history fans that like rome scare me

[lone yoke]

I'm more concerned with... I mean it's basically just a reference outfit at that point, right? It doesn't really fit anywhere in the game
-# granted it's referencing history instead of some anime I've never heard of but the point still stands

[latent hazel]

true, although I think that just using the aesthetics might work ig

since roman clothes have an "aesthetic" to them

[lone yoke]

I guess, yeah

[latent hazel]

either way im sure as hell not making that

[twin oyster]

look wilstrom wears full armor plate it would not be out of place in pokemon

[lone yoke]

you know what fair enough

[twin oyster]

that being said hell no i aint doing that

[lone yoke]

but I more meant it wouldn't fit into any of the usual places you can get clothing

[twin oyster]

yeah no but it could be something like show the fashion npc an aegislash

[lone yoke]

that's what I'm thinking, it would have to be the fashion designer (so it should be themed after a pokemon)

[hollow vale]

I wanted to make a sentai suit themed after Bisharp

But that'd be a nightmare to sprite

[latent hazel]

yall just take my trevenant sprite and recolor it to be armor and a cape trust /j

but with aegislash honestly, a simple roman design feels way too boring when it leans more medival but also fantastical

[hollow vale]

For aegislash I'd go full fantasy knight armor personally

Not sure who fits greek or roman armor..

Bisharp is very clearly based on Japanese tokusatsu

[latent hazel]

falinks

[hollow vale]

Yeah but that's never getting in

[latent hazel]

i made sprites for mons that werent in game

skitty tv

frog can figure out where to put my crap in game

[hollow vale]

Hmm true

Lol

Falinks is our best bet for sure

[latent hazel]

i kinda want to make a greenscreen bodysuit outfit just for people who don't want a character with readable features

then again itd look like a 4chan anon

[twin oyster]

and they give it the frog hat to make it a pepe

[latent hazel]

god damn it

[cinder perch]

Yea I just meant it for aesthetics ofc

It was just a suggestion nothing more I just think it looks really cool but yea I get that some people don’t like rome and its culture

[cinder perch]

In Pokémon Reborn there is character named El and he resembles a prophet

And he has a somehow similar outfit so I think it’d work

And I love his outfit

[hollow vale]

That looks less like the outfits you linked and more like a tan hooded trenchcoat

[cinder perch]

Just an example to show that it’d work

[full quartz]

a lot of people tend to say "this outfit will work on a player model", attempt, and then realize its a lot harder than it looks

[cinder perch]

Oh

[hollow vale]

it really is
this gets resized into this

[hollow vale]

just gotta do surf and dive

we are so close

[hollow vale]

done

[sturdy summit]

Hey

[rancid nymph]

gives me senku vibes from the anime dr.stone

https://tenor.com/view/dr-stone-senku-anime-walking-gif-14797354

[teal berry]

been meaning to watch that is it good?

[opal drift]

Yes (Well i've only watched the first 2 seasons so i can't speak for season 3 and the spin off thing they did) but from what i watched it was really good

[teal berry]

Cool

[rancid nymph]

yea its good i myself have even made a minecraft mod based on that anime

[hollow vale]

Was thinking about outfits I could make and remembered Pulseman. Would a reference to it be allowed since the games themselves reference it a decent amount? It's one of GF's other games.
Could also just be renamed to something Ledian or Bisharp related.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_references_to_Pulseman

I'd ask in the form but I'm not sure how often it's checked lol

[twin oyster]

Just add some rotom detail to it

[hollow vale]

yeah i could

[hollow vale]

[stone mortar]

Yeah, I actually noticed the Emperor's New Clothes Line for the first item in almost all the outfit/hat shops too.

[covert falcon]

[snow escarp]

they're getting eaten kirby style

[hollow vale]

that's so cute

[covert falcon]

(I overwrote brock's pan to see how it looks in-game)

[latent hazel]

hehehe

hat

[fading holly]

So i just went through the reddit
And my Orange hat is apparently in the game as...
An Oran Berry?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonInfiniteFusion/s/cncjzynSRq

[lone yoke]

oranges don't exist in pokemon

[fading holly]

Bananas do

Why not an orange

[lone yoke]

do they?

Nanab berries are the equivalent of bananas iirc

[fading holly]

Tropius has em
They dont look like Nanab berries and the dex refers to it as fruit

I mean like, i guess they're not explicitly Canon by all definition

But they made apples canon twice

Once in Snap, then in SwSh

Just weird seeing it as Oran Berry when its quite literally opposites on the color wheel

[lone yoke]

hm. Yeah, not entirely sure why they did that

there's already leppa berries

[latent hazel]

should be called "Strange Berry"

there's no pokemon berry this directly looks like

[fading holly]

Or Strange Fruit

Something other then Oran

[latent hazel]

we need to kill frog </3

[fading holly]

Will say
It does suck seeing how this is how I find out my hat got in lol

[pulsar spoke]

I always thought that real world fruits, veggies and berries coexisted with Pokemon equivalents, much like how early PokeDex entries still referenced cats, dogs, and the like.

[latent hazel]

i mean it doesnt make sense for them to

real world locations and animals were cut out of the anime and dex later on

[fading holly]

except the Dex entry that talks about how Tropius eats the fruit it grows from its neck

Violet entry btw

[latent hazel]

are bananas mentioned by name

[fading holly]

No

Apples are tho

In all 4 entries of Applin

Oh actually

Bananas are mentioned by name in SV

Along with Avocado, Bacon, Cucumber, Ham, Kiwi, Pickle, Cheese, Tomatoes, Tofu, Strawberries

And a lot more

[covert falcon]

Bananas are also in PIF

In the last sevi isle you can collect them from trees and use it as healing items

Or give it to a lady for a quest

I don't see how a orange would be illegal when bananas are already in

[latent hazel]

I hate this fucking series so damn much THIS IS THE SECOND WORST WORLDBUILDING I HAVE EVER SEEN /lh

[covert falcon]

When you change the topic to 'do animals (that arn't Pokémon) exist?' it gets worse

Also in gen2 eating slowpoke tail is apparently illegal and immoral but apparently they just sell some at the store in gen7

Pokémon lore is just jank

[twin oyster]

its not that eating them its ilegal slowpoke naturally drop them when fishing its cutting them off before they drop them that is ilegal

[covert falcon]

🤔

[hollow vale]

Don't forget in SwSh and ScarVi they literally just have shit like bacon and pickles etc

where does the meat come from.

[pulsar spoke]

I would assume they harvest some Pokemon for meat. Like for bacon, pork, and ham specifically, it'd be Spoink + Grumpig, Lechonk + Oinkologne, and so on.

For beef, one would assume it'd be Tauros and/or Miltank.

As for fish... iirc Magikarp specifically has been fished up as a food source like... canonically, and X and Y specifically noted that Basculin is considered tasty.

[covert falcon]

I'm pretty sure canonically Magikarp isn't really edible

[pulsar spoke]

I mean, there were shots in the early anime of Ash and Brock (moreso the former) salivating over possibly eating Magikarp sashimi.

but that could be chalked up to early anime weirdness

and Misty later clarified they're mostly scale and bone anyway

so you are right about that

The anime did suggest in an earlier episode that Krabby were consumed for food though. After all, Ash explicitly called Professor Oak to inquire about the safety of his then-recently caught Krabby, which remained uneaten, on account of it being too small to be made into a proper meal, according to Professor Oak. He also stated that a bigger one, like the one Gary caught, would be more filling, or something to that effect.

[twin oyster]

i think they specify the bacon in sv comes from lechonk

[hollow vale]

I don't remember that line of text if they said so, but I also didn't use the sandwich mechanic at all

Eating things that are pokemon shaped is commonplace too in both the anime and games (I think)

[pulsar spoke]

Point is, there's an established precedent for consuming Pokemon for sustenance.

One of the sandwich ingredients in SV is straight up crab meat, or rather, a Klawf Stick.

In terms of fish, Basculin, Barraskewda, Veluza are all considered tasty in one way or another, and some Dex entries state that Sharpedo was a victim of overfishing in the past, due to its dorsal fin being considered a delicacy, being a reference to real world overfishing of sharks for shark fin soup.

and basically any crustacean Pokemon that isn't Crawdaunt and by association Corphish, are all considered edible in some manner.

So Krabby & Kingler, Clauncher & Clawitzer, Crabrawler & Crabominable, and Klawf.

[pulsar spoke]

???

[lone yoke]

thank you frog

very cool

[sour juniper]

Curse that discord microphone button

[bright crown]

That's because they weren't aware of it being just scales and bones iirc

[pulsar spoke]

Mm.

[bright crown]

Might be wrong been a while since I watched it

[pulsar spoke]

You can also see that I acknowledged that Misty educated the two

so yeah

[fading holly]

What is the answer of the Orange/Oran Berry debacle Mr.Frog man

[latent hazel]

I vote for "mysterious berry" as the name

[sour juniper]

I renamed it to "Berry" the other day. I genuinely forgot that oran berries were blue when I named it originally. My brain just went Orange -> Oran

[latent hazel]

SOBS???

[fading holly]

Ok actually kinda based

[ionic lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-annoyed-gif-27198836

We had a suggestion about outfits that wasn't bad but was complicated, I put in my 2¢ but thought I'd leave it here for anyone more capable than I to give additional details: #1386786708145573941 message

[twin oyster]

They basically want mh layered armor, tematically i think it sucks

[lilac anchor]

Is there any good way to quickly find out if something has already been made? I wanna make N's hat among other things and dont wanna step on anyones toes accidentally

[latent hazel]

go into the outfit sheet, check there, if not, check the recent submissions

[pulsar spoke]

N's hat and hair are already in the game, but otherwise yeah, check the outfit sheet and recent submissions to see if something you want to make is being handled by someone else or already made.

[lilac anchor]

Alright, thanks. Havent gotten around to checking out whats all in game so that musta slipped by me

[pulsar spoke]

no worries

but if something you want to make isn't listed among the to-do or accepted list, feel free to ask the relevant folks if what you want to make is guideline friendly via an optional form in the submission page

[lilac anchor]

Well, I am not seeing anything on N's clothes so I guess I will take that up

[pulsar spoke]

Yeah, a lot of Protag Trainer outfits need added to PIF. The Ruby/Sapphire outfits for the Gen 3 protags, their Emerald outfits, and MAYBE their ORAS outfits... the Diamond and Pearl outfits for the Gen 4 protags, since we have their winter outfits from Platinum, the Black & White/B2W2 protag outfits, and so on.

Like... we have their hats, and a lot of their hairstyles, but no outfits save for Crystal's outfit, iirc.

Also MAYBE Ash's original outfit would be nice too if someone wants to tackle that, since his hat is also in the game as the Partner Cap.

[scarlet saffron]

If I can find more manga-specific outfits, I plan on making them.

[lilac anchor]

The Gen 3 protag outfits most certainly need to be done if they arent already concidering hoenn

Ill look into that, im not too familiar with gen 3 outside the kanto games

[twin oyster]

In order of priority rigth now we have the hoen protag outfits and the gym leaders hat rewards (brawly is done)

After that we could use the uniforms for team aqua and magma

[lilac anchor]

Hat rewards is ginna be tricky

Norman has nothing on him that works, nor does flannery

Flannery's gym is a hot spring, she could give a towel hat

[twin oyster]

I mean have u seen what i came up for in jhoto, stretching logic is my speciality

[lilac anchor]

That is true, ledian helm was wild to see lol

[fading holly]

Norman can give you some kind of old outfit you used to wear since they're your dad

Would be kinda cute

[lilac anchor]

That would be a cute little interaction but if everyone else is giving out hats we need a hat lol

Definitely would like to see something like that

[twin oyster]

Ok hear me out, if we give the characters their oras hats at the start and then norman give them the rse versión saying is their old hats

[lilac anchor]

That could def work, theyd have to give both m and f but I think thats fine for the purposes

That would be a really cute little thing

[fading holly]

What if it's a plush of your starter that wraps or sits on your head
And he talks about how he always saw you like ___ growing up so he got you a plushie

[lilac anchor]

That could be cute but that also depends on starter which gets complicated if we get custom starter option again

That would be a good idea for game corner though

Or lilycove dept store

[fading holly]

Oh right I forgor bout that

It would be fun tho

[lilac anchor]

If we arent getting secret bases (likely) thatd be a really good way to make a nod to it

T and L is another tricky one

Astronaut Helmet cause the space center is right there

[scarlet saffron]

Consider: matching pair of outfits or hats

Alien mask and astronaut helmet?

Cow suit and ufo dress?

Tons of good space options actually

[lilac anchor]

Something similar to sabrina but a meteorite instead of some pokeballs

[scarlet saffron]

Saturn ring halo maybe

[lilac anchor]

Sun and moon mask

That would make a lot of sense
Space theme
2 items
And solrock and lunatone

[scarlet saffron]

I’ll save the cow and ufo ideas for somewhere in the space center then

[lilac anchor]

We def need a cow suit

[twin oyster]

Miltank suit*

[lilac anchor]

Yeah thats fair

[scarlet saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-birthday-cow-moo-happy-gif-10981028939932918406

[lilac anchor]

Stupid discord eating my messages

Dont mind my model. Rough outline of what I want (I forgot the cube), the shoes are gonna be a pain since they are so small. I know I need to fix the overshirt positioning and I think it should be a little longer but any other thoughts and suggestions?

Oh and the necklace, gotta do the necklace too

[outer basin]

The shirt isn't facing the same way as the body

[lilac anchor]

Yeah, hence why I need to fix it

[outer basin]

Most of the character sprite faces diagonally -> that way, but the head is turned the opposite way

Hm, you could add the necklace

Pants could also use a bit of texturing, perhaps

[lilac anchor]

I have both those images as refs, as well as another

Ill keep the texturing in mind

[outer basin]

Also, I think the v-shape at the bottom of the shirt here is too deep

It results in the middle of the shirt feeling like a vest in terms of attachment

[lilac anchor]

That is true, it did look off. I will be making that smaller

Thank you for the tips, ill get back to working on it in a bit

[lilac anchor]

This is where I am leaving it for today, if anyone has tips especially for the sleeves/where the shirt puffs out please feel free to tell me

Attached the wrong picture

There

[next cosmos]

Yeah tell me about it, I was the one who got all the protag hats in as well as Crystal's outfit. I've been working on gen 3 since I'm on the Hoenn dev team, but please keep in mind the massive amount of work that goes into outfits vs hats. You're looking at 90ish frames vs 4.

It's literally taking months

[lilac anchor]

Yeah, I can only imagine

Well know, I will be experiencing that here soon to a much smaller degree but I understand that is miserable

[next cosmos]

If you guys want to see progress, here it is. I've been working so hard and yes, I'm doing RS, E, and ORAS. My goal is to have RS done for the demo, and the rest for hoenn release when we're eventually done with it

I'm just trying to provide a little perspective, please have patience since it really is a massive undertaking and we only have a few people who are actively working on character customization

[next cosmos]

Yes I'm really glad to see someone who's developed an interest! I hope you like it, I look forward to seeing what you make 🙂 it's hard but sort of rewarding. I just dont like seeing people complain about lack of content without understanding lol. It kinda hurts

[lilac anchor]

Of course, I understand. You are doing a fantastic job and I hope you arent pushing yourself too hard

As a massive game design enthusiast O totally get it, this is not my first attempt to get into spriting lol

[next cosmos]

Hah there's a lot going on in the background for sure, I'm exhausted but I want to make sure all of these can match with each other so the player has the most fulfilling experience. I'm not rushing, we're still in the very early stages of development

As for the other protags, they're on my list and I did start some gen 5, but the Hoenn protags are my top priority. If others could pick up gold, gen 4, gen 6 and beyond, I would be so grateful

[lilac anchor]

Ill see what I can do once I am done with this!

[next cosmos]

Awesome! And your outfit is coming along great! Nice work

[lilac anchor]

Thank you!

[latent hazel]

Paya is like the one person I know doing consistent sprites for pokemon trainer outfits and the idea of doing all of them sounds horrifying

[twin oyster]

Paya nobody is complaining about lack of content, but u should have come here instead of putting all the work yourself we could have helped, any way since u already doing the protags next in priority is the gym rewards and the evil teams uniforms if anyone wants to grab thosr

We already have someone making the last couple of type experts

[next cosmos]

I didnt want to bother anyone 😭 everyone pitches in for fun and this is a lot

I'd rather you guys make creative outfits than the boring ones, I dont want people being turned off by CC

[lilac anchor]

That is fair however theres never any harm in asking

If people wanna focus on making their own things they could always just say no thanks, no harm done

[next cosmos]

Alrighty, well as for the base teams I have made the hats. We're making both the old and the new evil team outfits. Spoiler alert I guess, dont say anything. We'll be going for oras style for the teams, but we wanted to include the old uniforms for fun, only for the player

[twin oyster]

Ok sure i'll take rse magma male for now, also i'll make winona's hat later today

[lilac anchor]

Im not too familiar with the og but I did play oras, ill look into that as well

[twin oyster]

Mmm i still have the banner from the contest that shows all give a sec

[lilac anchor]

Or well, I played OR

[next cosmos]

Magma trainer hat will need to be adjusted to however the body is made, but this is what I have. I haven't exported them yet

The hats barely change tbh

[twin oyster]

Yup

[lilac anchor]

The aqua on the left doesnt look too bad, I might take that one

[next cosmos]

This is a big help, thank you. These outfits wont be in the demo, but they're needed. The old ones are mostly an easter egg for og fans

[twin oyster]

ok guys heres a list so we can keep order: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UB7niajc-RYRSKwejldXYcWlrGONxt8C26urQP999uE/edit?usp=sharing

[lilac anchor]

Ill take oras aqua male

[twin oyster]

hair or no hair

[lilac anchor]

Is it supposed to be hair? I just thought it was like feathers or something

[next cosmos]

Yep it's actually her hair lol. And even if it doesnt make sense, having the hair is iconic

it's not as recognizable without it

[lilac anchor]

I have so many questions...

[lilac anchor]

I said id leave the sprite for today but continued working anyways

Would it be worth posting in #1050404143807873157 or should I just leave looking for feedback on clothes for here?

[twin oyster]

either one but here is more likely

[lilac anchor]

Alright, ill put on the template this time lol

[lone yoke]

I really should get back into outfit spriting

... but I'm gonna be busy with art fight til uh... august... so its not gonna be any time soon

Every time I open ibisPaint my half complete bisharp outfit stares daggers at me

[pulsar spoke]

I'm praying for your hands, that much work is bound to get them cramping now and then

like goddamn

[outer basin]

We can all just mega-collab
One person animates the shoes, another person animates the pants, another person animates the shirt...

Clothes don't get credited in-game anyways, so it's not like there's an upper limit to worry about

[lilac anchor]

specializes im animating shoes
gets credited as the shoe expert

[pulsar spoke]

given the kind of workload that comes with it, I'd argue that the outfit/hat/hair designers SHOULD start being credited.

like whoa

[lilac anchor]

Where would you put the credits?

[twin oyster]

It has been suggested but we don't know where to put it, and all of us have spriter crédits regardlesd

[pulsar spoke]

Hm. Fair point...

[hollow vale]

could put them on mannequins and have a gallery room for them like the spriters have

masc and fem nurse joy trainers are done, just need to do the ows

[lilac anchor]

Yoooo I was really hoping for those!

Good job on em, they look good

[lone yoke]

hear me out here:

add an NPC to the fashion designer's building in Saffron, a student that's studying fashion design (or something along those lines)
talking to her lets you show her an outfit, and she'll say something like "Hmm... oh! I know who designed this one! It was (name)."
is it clunky and out of the way? Yes, but...
can it be done without changing some section of the UI, or clogging up the description text? Also yes!

[hollow vale]

Thank you! I already submitted the hair and a hat so hopefully they'll be ready to rock in the next update

@jovial mica I believe it was you who requested these earlier this month, hope you like 'em!

[full quartz]

#game-suggestions ?

also sheep what team did you choose for AF im curious

[lone yoke]

I'd rather die than do something helpful

[full quartz]

LMAO

ffs

[lone yoke]

-# also I'm on fossils

[full quartz]

called it

i learned the teams against my will AF content beats me up whether I want it to or not

[slim turtle]

Ello! I haven't ever been to this side of pif before. If I was interested in making sprites for hair, is there something like a mega-sheet I can see for all "accepted" hairs? I looked at the cc submissions on #custom-outfits-submissions , so I might've missed it at first glance.
Nvm 2s later saw the huge "accepted submissions" sheet lmao

As well as, do I technically need a spriter role?

[lone yoke]

I don't believe you do

That being said, I still suggest reading through the #spriting-guidelines - the style guide still applies to outfits and hair!

[slim turtle]

Ohh, alright

[lilac anchor]

Welcome to the club

Started working on overworld sprites

[slim turtle]

I assume I can ask for feedback here, I popped open libresprite and messed around. Any tips on the shape of the hair? I'm going for a high pony, afro type situation, but not centered on the top of the head. Just worried abt my consistency (as I now notices the frontal face isn't rounded enough, trying to keep it fluffy while not looking blocky)
Don't mind the colors, helps with blocking.
Also did I export it right, I did 200% but it still looks crunchy

Hang on hang on mark 2

[lilac anchor]

Im not an expert on this sort of thing but the hairline looks a little high to me or more so like flat? Kinda hard to explain there. I would also concider making it a little smaller but thats probably just personal preference

Overall its looking good!

[slim turtle]

I was thinkin about that, but if I drop it a pixel it looks too far down. I'll experiment giving it a tiny bit more curve

[lilac anchor]

Try bringing the end one pixel inward

[slim turtle]

Also, do hair sprites need to have a black "outline", or can it be the darkest color of the palette? I'm looking thru other hair submissions and I don't know if there's a standard "uniform"

[lilac anchor]

No matter what I think having some black outline is necessary just cause it makes things flow

[slim turtle]

As in where the hair tapers off toward the ears?

[lilac anchor]

Yeah

[lone yoke]

it should have some of both

[lilac anchor]

Yeah even the blonde has black outlines where you would normally put them

[slim turtle]

Alright I sorta dropped the hairline and gave it an extra pixel of taper. It's really annoying because I've gotta cover all the skin pixels, which is givin in a blocky shape. Left is w bangs, right is no bangs

[lilac anchor]

You could maybe drop the very top one pixel but I definitely think that looks better

Personally, im all for the bangs

[slim turtle]

The top one pixel?

Yea I did want bangs, but didn't know if they'd come across too clunky lol

[lilac anchor]

Yeah like, bring only the top of the hairline down a pixel but in hindsight thatd probably make it look flat again

Id leave ot as is, the shape looks good

[slim turtle]

Oh god now to work with colors

I am always the worst at this part

Wait, do we have to use all 4 provided or can some just have 3?