custom-outfits-discussion

[twin oyster]

Ok i impulse bought the sv dlc and the fuck is that hairdo

[outer basin]

A longstanding hairstyle usually used with type 4 hair

[hollow vale]

bantu knots!

it's a pretty cool style

[twin oyster]

Ok so it just look really Bad in game

[hollow vale]

shes so cute..

[hollow vale]

snatched the buns off the box braids i made earlier, so people have the option for them without the buns

cuz why redo it when i've already got something that works just fine

[next cosmos]

hell yeah, agreed

[twin oyster]

surprised nobody has done larry b4

[twin oyster]

so what would be a good way to give larrys hair, something like show someone a flying normal mon/fusion

or maybe from a sylphco employe after all several of them side with team rocket... yeah im going to sugest that

[lilac anchor]

That reminds me, I made a suggestion a while back about having the players mom learn the hairstyles the player buys so that you can use them for ng+, is that still in concideration I really think itd be awesome to be able to give postgame hairstyles an opportunity to actually be used in a playthrough

[next cosmos]

To be honest, everything with pif 1 is on hold while the hoenn demo is in development

[lilac anchor]

Is a similar system already in place for hoenn or did it completely fall to the back burner

[lilac anchor]

And I totally understand, I just wanted to check

I realize now that thats a stupid question since there is no reason to have such a feature in hoenn yet

[latent hazel]

NEVER getting gen neutral water type outfit in game because frog is EVIL

[livid canyon]

Maybe Dunsparce + Flying, since Starraptor isn't in the game but he uses Dudunsparce in his gym.

[keen field]

where do you guys post hats and clothes?

ok nvm found it

dyslexia working hard today

[outer basin]

You make a #1050404143807873157 thread, tag it with Character Customization, and then use the submission drives when you're done

[keen field]

tnx

[twin oyster]

wheres bug report?

[next cosmos]

#tech-support, they'll make a bug report out of it for frog

[twin oyster]

hey paya do we still need more afro hairs? i found a pretty good one

[next cosmos]

That's a good one! I definitely think it would be a great addition

[twin oyster]

alrigth already working on it

[hollow vale]

That hairline is a little too low imo

[twin oyster]

is this better

[hollow vale]

yeah there we go

[twin oyster]

guys is this to much 4head?

[next cosmos]

no, it could even go up a pixel. The biggest thing is that the middle part is not centered on the forehead

[outer basin]

There is only one pixel of space between the eyebrow and the hairline
Her forehead is not too big

[twin oyster]

yes but the think that bothers me is the high ligth of the head

[next cosmos]

much better

[twin oyster]

ok what name should it have?

[twin oyster]

what would u call it

[hollow vale]

bun with locs? dreadlock bun?

[next cosmos]

No clue

[hollow vale]

unless paya has something better

[next cosmos]

Nope my brain is turned off, I've been editing a map alllllllllll day

[twin oyster]

bad paya dont burn yourself out

[next cosmos]

We're so close! We're adding some final things and then we're done. So we're going a little hard on it right now, but it'll be worth it

But I dont want to deal with water, rocks, and sand again for a while

[twin oyster]

said last week before trumpets were an idea

[next cosmos]

Yep, thats becoming a whole thing and its hilarious and while we were talking about that, frog was like "so how about completely changing the ending of the [REDACTED] quests?" And now I'm having to make a couple custom assets, and what we did have planned for that has been changed to something else that'll be discoverable. We've been busy, but we promise it'll be the last content overhaul that trumpet set off a chain reaction lol

Oh that reminds me, I have some hairs I need to finish. General hairstyles would be good for the demo

[twin oyster]

Well im marking this one as pretty general, any u have in mind i could do tomorrow?

Btw i think i decided on calling them side locs with bum

[next cosmos]

@twin oyster Any of these, except the long hair+buns in the bottom left

or one of these, unless @hollow vale was thinking of making it

[hollow vale]

I can handle my hairstyle lmao, feel free to make any of these malxire

The box braids that I submitted also counts as the first one iirc

[next cosmos]

Ok cool, deleted that message to not be confusing

Other than that, if theres a hairstyle that you can think of that could be representative of anyone, it would be welcomed!

The goal is to have several styles available for all hair types and lengths, and hair that is up, down, and in between. I think we've made a decent amount of progress already

[twin oyster]

Ok lets see gummys already made 1 and 4, 5 is the same but medium length so could be an edit, isnt 6 one of the other ones we have like the dancer one

I'll do the short dreads tomorrow

[next cosmos]

Dancer is only the top part. 6 is actually a long hair half updo

[twin oyster]

Ok but it could be an edit of the dancer with longer on the back that makes it easier which is good

[hollow vale]

2 is also just a short style iirc so theres no ties or anything

[next cosmos]

Yeah that would work!

[twin oyster]

i was working on the six hair but my ligths just whent out so ill send it tomorrow

[lilac anchor]

Yooo that looks nice

[next cosmos]

The OW is looking great! I think the dancer part of the trainer sprite needs to be toned down and closer to the head to match it

[lilac anchor]

Im not seeing anything anywhere but I figure I should still ask, has anyone made dawn's platinum outfit? If not I think I'm gonna give it a shot

[twin oyster]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19uYNGk5SbBqcsHV155IBcABcIbRatEhkLTwTK2R3LU8/edit?gid=891834841#gid=891834841 check here i believe theres a winter outfit but only the male one

[lilac anchor]

I forget we are organized

There is a SnowCoat Female but its vastly different from dawns

The on in the drive is longer, blue, doesnt have a scarf bag or puffballs I think its different enough that making this should be fine

[hollow vale]

The one we have in game is based on Sugimori artwork of Red and Leaf, so yeah this one should be OK

[lilac anchor]

Sweet, I'll get started then

[next cosmos]

if by the end of it you dont want to rip your hair out, feel free to make some other protags like her normal outfit too

[lilac anchor]

We will see, N's overworlds made me forfeit

I am more dedicated now so heres hoping

[twin oyster]

ok fixed cuted down the extras from the knot

[next cosmos]

that looks much better!

[hollow vale]

These both look great!

[twin oyster]

aaron hair is pretty basic

[outer basin]

I think the pink buttons should be outlined

Or whatever these round parts are

[lilac anchor]

I think they are puffballs

I can try to outline them but with their size im not sure thats gonna portray them well

I do appreciate the photo though, I was ysing the platnum sprite for reference so this has cleared some things up

[hollow vale]

I always saw them as buttons

[lilac anchor]

Those are some big buttons

[outer basin]

Probably supposed to be something like this?

[lilac anchor]

Those are indeed big buttons

[twin oyster]

ryme hair without the cap

[hollow vale]

Oh! I totally should've posted in here,

Hi all I'm now the official customization manager! You can direct most questions about cc directly to me, no need to bug Paya and Frog!

[latent hazel]

:D congrats!

[lilac anchor]

Oh thats awesome to hear, congrats!

Thats a big promotion for you

[twin oyster]

k

[snow escarp]

congrat gummy

[hollow vale]

Thanks everyone! Keep up the great work, I've approved a lot of really cool submissions

We're currently discussing an update to #custom-outfits-submissions, as I've mentioned in here before. It'll have a lot clearer guidelines and tips.

[lilac anchor]

Sludge hat approved?

[hollow vale]

It was!

[lilac anchor]

[hollow vale]

I tested it and approved it myself It came out very cute

I can't say if the idea on how it's obtained will be added or not, that's a frog decision

[lilac anchor]

Thats fine im just happy to hear its been approved

[hollow vale]

I actually don't think I've rejected much, if anything

The little team we have here is very solid

[twin oyster]

hey guys i just finished rymes hair what the closest hoen got to a ghost city ?

[next cosmos]

Mt. Pyre

[hollow vale]

Yeah, Mt. Pyre for sure

Which is closest to Lilycove

[twin oyster]

ok this work

[outer basin]

Phoebe's flowers could be a cute hat idea

[hollow vale]

Absolutely!

[lilac anchor]

Thatd be fantastic

[next cosmos]

Yesssss! And she has a gen 5 ow sprite too so it should be super easy. Unless I'm misremembering and its only gym leaders

[lilac anchor]

I think it was only gym leaders and champs in the PWT but I never played BW2 so I am not a reliable aource here

Despite my love for gen 5

[next cosmos]

Its okay I haven't either, I've just been on those two specific spriters resources pages a lot from my work here

[gloomy pollen]

Congrats on the raise

[hollow vale]

I wish I got paid

[next cosmos]

Don't we all

its friendship, we get paid in friendship

[lilac anchor]

Damn, I want a refund
(This is a joke ya'll are great )

[outer basin]

You didn't get a raise?!
I got a 300% increase when I joined staff

[lilac anchor]

300% increase in what? Workload and back problems?

[slim basin]

300% x $0.00 = $0.00

[serene zealot]

so sorry if its been asked before or is easily written somewhere, but are we allowed to make multiple versions of an outfit we design? (say a dress themed after hoenn starters for example)- Would that just be a matter of uploading them individually and naming them "clothes_trainer_dresstreecko" "clothes_trainer_dresstorchic" "clothes_trainer_dressmudkip"?

[weary meteor]

Theres M and F versions of a lot of outifts, so I would assume so?

[twin oyster]

depends is there a diference apart from colors the yes even if its a patern or a logo, but if the only diference is color then no cause theres a dye sistem for that

[serene zealot]

okok yeah in that case it'd be patterns!

went with smth simple to experiment first

[serene zealot]

Is anyone allowed to contribute to the default outfits needed on the wip sheet? :]

[twin oyster]

yes but im pretty sure its not up to date

which did you want to do? cause we can ask gummy

[serene zealot]

Oioh gotcha gotcha! I'm happy with contributing to any of em, i made a little design for the summer dress concept but i can just as easily make that an extra outfit :)

[twin oyster]

ok u mean this sheet rigth? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UB7niajc-RYRSKwejldXYcWlrGONxt8C26urQP999uE/edit?gid=507187383#gid=507187383 the one for hoen, i believe nobody is working on the oras male magma outfit if you want to take it just the outfit paya made the hat is in here #custom-outfits-discussion message u can use it to see that it fits

[serene zealot]

AHHH this one looks a lot easier to read thank you!!

[twin oyster]

which one where you talking about? the really old one yeah that one isnt in use any more we basically got what we needed for basic for pif1 tho more hairs are still aceptables

[serene zealot]

oops no I've been looking at this > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xDwn7I2c_Co2a3l5CxFhaNtlzqtawloxKWEpWh6i-SI/edit#gid=138152933

[hollow vale]

both of those lists are really oudated, i need to go through them at some point. they will likely be replaced

love the bulba overalls though! starter-themed outfits are always a joy to have around

i'm making ones for the hoenn three, but otherwise nothing exists really

the outfit tracker is also outdated and needs to be remade lol

[serene zealot]

thank you!! i submitted three of the overalls, one based on each kanto starter :]

[hollow vale]

Those are very cute!

[hollow vale]

@next cosmos I'm not sure how to sync the forms to the sheets yet but is this good wording for the free source question?

alternatively,

[next cosmos]

I think the first one is more clear for users!

when I have time, I'll take care of all of my credits once it's synced with the sheet I'll also adjust all the other ones on the sheet hat at least has game freak

[hollow vale]

I'm not sure how to sync it with the sheet Do you know how?

[hollow vale]

I blended the two a bit for this version

[twin oyster]

more than da i would point out showdown and sprites resources

[hollow vale]

Spriters Resource would be GameFreak, I don't know if Showdown has trainer sprites

[twin oyster]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/trainers/

[hollow vale]

oh, huh

[next cosmos]

wait are you serious the amount of bullshit I went through tracking down trainer sprites for hoenn, only to find a lot of them here

[twin oyster]

i though you guys already knew

[next cosmos]

thank you, this is invaluable. I'll adjust my credits

[hollow vale]

I just gotta figure out sheet sync and we're good to rock

[next cosmos]

nope, I've been searching across the internet and especially DA, trying to find free use sprites this has been a year long endeavor. I've found a bunch that aren't included here, but a lot are here

[hollow vale]

I'm guessing PIF already has permission to use these re: "don't edit without permission"

[next cosmos]

I finally found a treasure trove, but it's allllll in french, including character file names and such. Got permission to use anything from that project, and it seems that kyledove was a main contributor to that

[hollow vale]

Kyledove has been around for aaaages, I remember that username from the ROM hacking days

[twin oyster]

if i remember correctly yes

[next cosmos]

I wish these was a filter for gen

The trainer sprites in hoenn that were taken from free sources weren't edited

but I did get permission to edit certain ones otherwise

As long as proper credit was given

[hollow vale]

Managed to figure out how to form sync

The clothes one is working fine

[hollow vale]

It looks like I can't add columns in our intenral sheet for all the hats etc. (the one called "outfits") so if you could do that when you adjust your credits there it'd be appreciated

[next cosmos]

I'm a bit busy at the moment, but @sour juniper is the owner of the sheet and should be able to handle it!

[hollow vale]

@serene zealot just letting you know your overalls were accepted

[hollow vale]

The FAQ and new guidelines are almost done, I'm just working on finalizing things. Hopefully we'll see some new faces in here

[next cosmos]

All good! Things have calmed down, but we're gonna have another wave in 12 hours with the Europeans wake up

[serene zealot]

OOOH YAY!! thank you!! :D knowing that i got it right means I'm excited to make more!

[serene zealot]

do ya'll think the shading here is too overly detailed?

[hollow vale]

Maybe a little bit, but it's not bad

I'd zoom out and see if the sprite still looks good

[twin oyster]

depends on what material you want it to look like rigth now its looks like one of those more plastic sintetic material like satin

[lilac anchor]

I have in fact not given up just needed to take some time after certain events, how is this looking?

[lilac anchor]

Okay but is that saying its fire or that you want to burn it

Im probably gonna fiddle around with tha scarf a bit more but if the rest looks all good that is great cause I really wanna get through these asap

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656> <@&1346210147948822619>

[tiny drum]

Hello

Whotcha

[bright crown]

A bot had survived somehow, its gone now

[tiny drum]

Aha

https://tenor.com/view/horse-horses-equine-run-running-gif-9008406225977641568

[serene zealot]

zoomed out a bit, shine vs no-shine.... i'm leaning toward no-shine, fabric looks a bit more natural that way like mentioned!

Oooh, question- A dye function was mentioned, right? Do we need to make dye-able outfits a certain base default colour?

[lilac anchor]

No, the dye function handles itself

[lilac anchor]

The no shine definitely looks better imo

[serene zealot]

my actual art is always super shiny stylistically, so i often get caught up in lighting :]

[lilac anchor]

Shiny does have its place, thats really cool

[serene zealot]

ty!! :] also as much as i like the wristbands, i'm gonna remove them for visual clarity in the smaller sprites

[serene zealot]

can't decide what to make next....an eeveelution dress or another starter set...

[latent hazel]

I think no shine looks better, here it just ends up looking like pillowshaded layers

also is this dress custom or is it based on another dress? the skirt part looks familiar

[lilac anchor]

Reminds me of the I think the gen 4 or 5 lady sprite

Oh no I am horribly misremembering that sprite nvm

[hollow vale]

Why not both? Lmao

Johto starter outfits would be nice to see tho!

[lilac anchor]

Put some respect on Chikoritas name with a fantastic fit

[lilac anchor]

I do not remember ow side sprites being this frustrating

[twin oyster]

u migth have memory problems cause we say it constantly

[lilac anchor]

I have the memory of a... a... ah I forgot

[twin oyster]

hey guys what would u call Will hair?

[lilac anchor]

Yes

I know absolutely nothing about hairstyle names

But its looking good👍

[hollow vale]

Psychic bob maybe? It's not quite a bob though

[twin oyster]

i sended it like 4 days ago is up to you what to cll it now

[hollow vale]

Oh, I hadn't seen the date since i was out of town

[twin oyster]

hey guys i found another resource that migth be even better than showdown https://pokengine.org/search?query=permission%3Ayes&tab=trainers&overworlds&page=1 @next cosmos @hollow vale and if you see at the top this do have permision to use incorporated

[hollow vale]

Awesome!
I'll make a list of free resources in the Markdown doc in case anyone wants to take the time and adapt them.

[lilac anchor]

I should probably do stuff like that

[hollow vale]

It's very fun! You should.

I would also like to mention that the Spike Chunsoft games (PMD) are free resources as well. I used them for the buneary ear hat.

[lilac anchor]

Its also probably a lot easier than making all these from scratch

Im still chipping away at plat dawn, almost have the walk done

[hollow vale]

TSR also has a customs section but I would make absolutely sure that the sprites are free use before using them https://www.spriters-resource.com/custom_edited/pokemoncustoms/

[twin oyster]

yes put the trainer section in there is kinda lacking

[hollow vale]

They've mostly got Pokemon, but it's good to keep in mind if people add more trainers

yeah

[twin oyster]

i did found something i wanted to change in my type icon set

[next cosmos]

Also, your corbeau hairstyle is half the size. Please make sure everything is the correct res when uploading

[twin oyster]

whoops

[next cosmos]

I fixed it already, but its super important

[twin oyster]

rikas hair

[lilac anchor]

YEEES

[twin oyster]

and i just realized it should have hair behind the elbow

[lilac anchor]

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1492995039029235823
It only took forever but I did the walk

Tomorrow I start run and im gonna have someone yell at me to make sure I actually do it

I just realized my post for N still exists so I could finish that too, I think its just Run I had left but the surf and dive sprites look awful so I'll have to fix those too

And the bike.... and the fish.....

But those should be easy fixes

[hollow vale]

I find that it's easier to do them in the big sheet Paya made vs individually.

Dunno why, more image files just feels more tedious?

Then when they're done I just crop them and test them.

[lilac anchor]

Makes sense, is there anywhere I can get this sheet?

[twin oyster]

hey guys does this look like a braid

maybe itll look better in the darker colors

im going for the simple version of something like this

ok yeah

[lilac anchor]

Shell

[twin oyster]

funny in the overworld it looks better in blonde anyway sended

and now i made a hair for every type :V

dont ask me to elaborate

[lilac anchor]

Ice?

I get most of these but grass, fire, water, and ice

[next cosmos]

This looks so sick!!!

[outer basin]

I think they're hairstyles that belong to a character that specializes in that type

[lilac anchor]

I gathered that much, im saying I dont recognize those ones

[twin oyster]

Actually those arent characters based thats why those are more vibes base, also clive doesnt really use normal types but that one is kinda pasable for being just a normal student

[lilac anchor]

Oh ok

[latent hazel]

me mention

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656> oi you missed one

[tulip jetty]

its the same one

discord ban works like poop yay

[hollow vale]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-19863752

guidelines thoon

[hollow vale]

Templates folder has been updated with a new "everything" template with updated hair colors, the updated hair colors themselves, and my female base that I've been using should anyone else want it

[lilac anchor]

Everything template will be a huge relief

[hollow vale]

We've always had one! I use one for most of my submissions. You'll just have to crop each sprite type individually.

[lilac anchor]

I mean finally having it myself lol

[languid lagoon]

https://afroindex.org/gallery

references for black hairstyles including accurate names!

[next cosmos]

Omg thank you!! This will be so useful

[hollow vale]

Great find!

[hollow vale]

Cleaning out the pins in here

https://tenor.com/view/sweep-spongebob-sweeping-cleaning-chores-gif-558485556882495972

Before You Start - Guidelines and FAQ

Character Customization Guidelines, which contains our how-to-create guide for CC as well as rules, resources, tips, and tricks. Please read this and #spriting-guidelines before you submit anything!
Character Customization FAQ, which also answers more general questions on customization in the games.

Quick Links

Customization Templates
Submit Hairstyles
Submit Clothing
Submit Hats/Accessories
Customization Testing Tool
Incomplete Submissions - Please let Gummy or Paya know if you're taking on one of these
Customization Idea Submission Form

Free Resources (be sure you credit/ask for permission if needed! Always double check!)

The Spriter's Resource
The PMD Sprite Repository
Pokemon Showdown
Pokegine

Old Things You May Still Find Useful

PIF Outfits Collection (Outdated)
Old Customization Thread Link
Old To-Do List

[hollow vale]

Also hey @twin oyster who created the sprite you got from Pokegine? We need a name not necessarily a link

[twin oyster]

give me a sec found that when working with the rika hair so

[hollow vale]

kyledove, got it

[next cosmos]

now what's this website? it is like the one that was linked before? 🤔

[hollow vale]

yeah it's pokegine

[next cosmos]

oooooooh

wish we can filter to only show sprites that are free use

[twin oyster]

You can

I think the link i sended included the filter

https://pokengine.org/search?query=permission%3Ayes&tab=trainers&overworlds&page=1

[next cosmos]

OHHHHHH, you know what happened? I have a browser extension that make it look completely different, I didnt realize it was the same site

[twin oyster]

Lol

[next cosmos]

my old eyes need dark mode

[hollow vale]

LOL same.

But in the future, Malxire, please mention who made the sprite and where you got it for clarity in case one of us needs to double check it

[twin oyster]

Yup

[amber ice]

omg i love them

[languid lagoon]

~~woah theres a lot of cool pokemon sprites there too ~~
is there any chance we could get permission to add those to pifs base pokemon sprites?

[hollow vale]

That would probably be a @next cosmos question

[next cosmos]

Hey sorry, things were going down in another part of the server. I wouldn't feel comfortable adding them without direct consent and permission, but otherwise it's doable

[hollow vale]

It could be worth looking into at some point, but not now

[hollow vale]

#custom-outfits-submissions has been reborn! Please have a look at it when you all get the chance.

I've also added the quick links to the pins, so you don't need to circle back to that channel to find all the forms etc. in one place.

[snow escarp]

me, procrastinating? never
#1500179592907067543
if anyone has suggestion for the name I would gladly take it btw

btw @hollow vale, I was reading throught the updated guidelines but I couldn't find if adding eyebrows (neutral expression) was fine, I added some on a haircut I submitted (bc the the forehead wasn't convered so I'm not sure if I'll need to submit a fix maybe?

[hollow vale]

As far as I know that's part of changing the expression of the character. For consistency, I would submit a fix.

[snow escarp]

-# but it looks so weird without
I'll submit a fix soon then 😔

[hollow vale]

I understand but that's just how it do be 😔 We might change that ruling later, who knows

[snow escarp]

another one #1500216588845187273
name suggestions are also welcome

next is the chimecho dress/chingling accessory

[hollow vale]

This one is super cool. I think this should have a quest tied to it.

[snow escarp]

tbh I have no idea on how this hat should be obtained
thought maybe you'd have to fish a gorebyss and huntail

[twin oyster]

Either that or one of the stay still in the diving sections

[next cosmos]

Don't worry, I have the perfect place

[arctic schooner]

Ok I have an outfit I want to make, but the issue is its a reference to something. Its innocuous enough where someone who doesnt get the reference would just see a shirt and pants though, I dont know what the ruling is on that

I'd rather know if its allowed or not before I start on it

[latent hazel]

what is the design and the reference? reference sprites for outfits are not allowed but if its non specific and altered, maybe there could be a way to add it in?

id recommend not trying it though

[arctic schooner]

The khaki shorts and wolf shirt

Like its referencing a specific character yeah, but also I guarantee you could go to any anime expo and find 10 guys dressed like that

If its too specific its fine lmao, I can work on a non-reference outfit

-# Or make it but just for my own copy

[latent hazel]

i mean if you alter it a bit you can probably make it like... a mighteyena or lycanrock mall ninja costume

[arctic schooner]

The three wolf shirt is an iconic part of internet history honestly (like it even appeared in the freaking office) so theoretically I could make two versions, one with the khaki shorts for myself and one with a more hot topic style fit

It isnt exclusive to the character so I think without the rest of the outfit, its just a general thing

But thats up to the managers

[hollow vale]

I think it'd be okay as is. It's not like you're trying to add a cosplay of Goku or something, it's just regular clothes.

It's like if I made a nerd outfit. Am I referencing AVGN? Not really... it's just office wear.

Now if you were going for the Zelda shirt and khaki shorts combo I'd put a stop to it since Zelda ref

[latent hazel]

I think it would be a good idea for the wolf to be changed to a wolf pokemon so it'd fit it better in game in universe

[hollow vale]

Yeah, for sure. If you can see it well enough on the trainer, it needs to clearly be a Pokémon.

[next cosmos]

Mightyena, arcanine, or a mix of both with a third wolf (manectric?)

[latent hazel]

i think mightyena might fit the color palette best of those "edgy wolf" memes, that's why i suggested it

[snow escarp]

houndoom?

[next cosmos]

Oooh thats a good one too

[latent hazel]

that's more doglike in design imo

but it does fit the theme

[snow escarp]

lycanroc too
midnight especially

[next cosmos]

Oh yeah, thats an obvious choice

3 different versions too

[latent hazel]

im wondering if I make a rotary phone object head, which fandom would claim the reference

[snow escarp]

-# I think lucario would be very funny

[latent hazel]

since there's a ton of fandom relevant phone heads

off the top of my head:
fnaf/dsaf, dialtown, ness's dad, spamton's phone

lucario would be good fvgbhnj

[arctic schooner]

Honestly the wolves would be so low-detail they could pass as any gray dog pokemon

[snow escarp]

I don't think there are that many grey dog pokemon tho

[arctic schooner]

Then they'll look like mightyena

Or whatever the mysterious dog pokemon that died on the burned tower were

[snow escarp]

oh would be funny if it was the 3 legendary beasts

[sour juniper]

This is so good!

[hollow vale]

Right? I love seeing the creativity some people have.

[snow escarp]

the creativity goes to @spark girder as they were the one that did the concept/request

how does it work if multiple ppl are involved btw?

[next cosmos]

when you submit it you put them on the same line as you for a collab. similar to the credit sheet

[hollow vale]

woe banner upon ye

I'll be reviewing submissions sometime in the next week or so.

[lilac anchor]

Guess who randomly lost there internet for a week, I almost have N sprites to post for feedback again just have one last fix

[austere parcel]

lileep baggy pants idea

if anyone wants to do it

[hollow vale]

Oo cute...

[snow escarp]

#1502315862143799399
finally finished all my outfits backlog

@hollow vale prob a dumb question but just in case, in the guidelines the filenames for the clothes have a uppercase at the start but I assume the name should be all lower case?

[lilac anchor]

I believe it is suppost to be lower case, also thats a really cute dress

[hollow vale]

That's right, all lowercase. I'll adjust that when I get the chance.

[snow escarp]

btw anyone has name ideas for the eel hat? I'm terrible with that
placeholder name is "deep sea hat" for now (referencing the evolution items)

[lilac anchor]

Tangled Eels
I am also bad at naming

This is looking good though

[snow escarp]

do outfits get effects on the game now?

[lilac anchor]

The type outfits do

Give you certain items occasionally after battle

[snow escarp]

uh

interesting...

[snow escarp]

is it already implemented?

I don't see any mention in the wiki

[lilac anchor]

Yes

I know for a fact since I used the water one last run it is implemented

[hollow vale]

The Nurse Joy outfit also does, or at least it will when it's implemented

So erm it's not just the type outfits

[snow escarp]

what does it do? 👀

heal your pkm?

[hollow vale]

Unlock it when it's released and find out

[lilac anchor]

Erm actually since thats unreleased content we couldnt verify that without an authority on the matter so my previous statement was true untol proven otherwise

[hollow vale]

erm i'm the authority of the matter

(no genuinely i have access to that information but i'd rather not spoil the fun)

[snow escarp]

well I'll suggest some stuff when submitting IG

[lilac anchor]

Twas my point, we peasants couldnt have possibly had that information

[hollow vale]

gee i wonder how you knew to begin with

[hollow vale]

I'm not sure what the frog decrees on it are, so we'll see if he takes it or not

[lilac anchor]

I meant the unimplemwnted nurse outfit

[hollow vale]

ouh

gee i wonder how i knew that information

[lilac anchor]

Its almost like you are important person in charge or something

[hollow vale]

no way

little old me?

[lilac anchor]

Now if you'll excuse me, I have overworld sprites to procrastinate on

[twin oyster]

I just had an idea but i'll have to ask frog if its posible to have as an efect of the clothes, aumento the chance of a certain type of mon showing up like how having a mon with static ups the chance of eléctric types showing up, if posible it could go into the type logo shirts

[lilac anchor]

Personally I am not a huge fan of clothes having effects but that could genuinely be a life saver

It would make finding some rare envounters not take forever

[twin oyster]

@sour juniper

[lilac anchor]

I think I want to make a wearable choice band/specs/scarf

[snow escarp]

submitted all the hats/outfits

@hollow vale could I get the vanity role?
I did 5 outfits (only the hair on the last one isn't mine)
unless I should wait for them to be approved/implemented?

-# btw for some reason whenever I ping you it replace your username by @sage for a few seconds?

[twin oyster]

they need to be aproved but i think u can get it before implementing

[snow escarp]

as in wearing it gives the effect to the pokémon or...

[hollow vale]

I'll be approving them Monday anyways

Gimme a sec

[snow escarp]

I'm fine with waiting

[vast light]

Added Fashion Designer to chromaerym. || No reason given.

[hollow vale]

[snow escarp]

[lilac anchor]

Ayyy congrats

Ill get there eventually. I will conquer the monotony of overworlds some day

[hollow vale]

I find that doing them in the big everything sheet makes them go faster

[lilac anchor]

Im sure it does, unfortunately I already did all the N's one by one so I gotta compile them together and apply the fixes

If not tomorrow I should have it done monday

[snow escarp]

I do them one by one in separate files
don't need to crop at the end at least

[snow escarp]

how many outfits so far? 👀 (finished and unfinished)

[lilac anchor]

N's is basically done, and I have part of Dawn's Plat outfit done

The on CC i have finished and submitted is a pile of sludge

[twin oyster]

honestly dont know how guys use the everything sheet ill have such a mess in the layers with that

[lilac anchor]

By frequent layer merging

[hollow vale]

Sludge hat won't count as an outfit, it's gotta be drip

[hollow vale]

I do my clothes in one layer lol

[lilac anchor]

Indeed, that I am aware of

[snow escarp]

sludge drip clothing?

[lilac anchor]

Sludge cloak anyone?

[snow escarp]

😭

[lilac anchor]

Lmao

Same wavelength

[snow escarp]

lmao I was typing the emote for but it put 😭 instead

[latent hazel]

both poison type outfits used that concept lol

one day ill finish this

[lilac anchor]

Neat

[twin oyster]

Sure we dont have enough poison outfits :v

[lilac anchor]

no thanks, I don't wanna make moving sludge

[twin oyster]

U dont have to make it move tho if u doing a poison one something that isnt an urban fit cause we have enough of those, maybe something like this nerd ninja fit

[lilac anchor]

No like, I meant a literal sludge cloak lol

I have concidered making Atticus's fit but maybe once I fet a bit more experience under my belt

[latent hazel]

it doesn't seem too hard to do ngl, I've done cloak designs

[hollow vale]

There may also be sprites to work with in the free resources

[lilac anchor]

Its not the cloak I am weary of, its the patterning

[twin oyster]

not in here, atleast not for overworld

[hollow vale]

It's a start

[snow escarp]

lmao imagine an accessory and it's a whole other person that stands next to you

[lilac anchor]

Team Yes, never heard of them

[snow escarp]

I just realized I inverted the torso orientation on the paleontologist outfit
so I'll submit a fix rq

[hollow vale]

If you could somehow do that I'd be impressed. Maybe a ghost following you..

[lilac anchor]

Just like the gen 1 ghost speite behind the player

Cpuld be obtained after talking to that one kid in lavander

[dawn python]

so, Hellluuuuu!!!
I have a small question for outfit / Trainer Spriters!

I wanna make my OC in game, problem, he has pretty long hair;
Is there a way to keep it long since it gets messed up with the running animation or will i have to bite the sour apple and give him a ponytail?
(Example pic on how it's messed up atm! )

(also, you can find my rambling in #1502994486211510352, it's not a sprite for the official game but i'm happy for tips and tricks! )

[snow escarp]

you can animate it (there are longuer hairstyles I'm pretty sure actually ) but keep in mind that hair goes above clothes layer wise, so if you draw long hair it might "clip" above some clothing

layer order is accessory/hat > hair > clothes > skin/base

also I see a lot of mixels but seems like you're adressing it already 👍

[dawn python]

aahh, so i do have to keep that in mind aswell- okay, thank you!!
Honestly, i wanted to make custom clothes for him but i think i mentioned in the other chat that this will likely end in tears 😭

For long hairstyles, i THINK i might have to look at the HexManiac hairstyle then? I tried to do that before but kinda abandoned it to make it myself from scratch- I guess the trick is just to make it part to the right and to the left so the arm regions stay free-

[dawn python]

yep yep yep! learning how to scale hair!
If i ever do official stuff, i'll definitely do better! the guides to help a lot! 🙏

[snow escarp]

yeah I can confirm doing clothes is a pain 😭
although looking at your oc I think there's some similar clothes already in game?

ha nvm it's not in yet 😔 #custom-outfits-discussion message
there is a dress version in game tho

[dawn python]

ohhh, i love that!! that does look familiar and could fit just fine!!

I'm sure he won't mind wearing it as a dress! more comfy anyway! 😎

[snow escarp]

the dress in question

you have to defeat the water expert to get it

[dawn python]

Hah! since i was planning on an waterpokemon/fusion only run, that should be easy!!

oh no

Mr. beast scam-

[snow escarp]

bot eliminated

[dawn python]

🙏 praise the auto bot! poor soul, hope they get their acc back

[snow escarp]

you should use grass or electric mons then

[dawn python]

I'm sure i will find nice fusions to use! yasss!
After seeing @/.nottomention 's sprites, i might be a bit biased to make only machamp fusions tho...

[snow escarp]

just ask them to collab with you

-# oh wait you meant in game not as sprite

[dawn python]

awbdbvawbv yes yes yes-
-# i think i would die if i were to draw actual fusions 😭

SMOL UPDATE;; i didn't fix the hair just yet BUT the up and down scaling definitely made his ears look more pokemon-styled!!

the eyes look derpy but that's okay;; he IS a silly boy;;

(after - before )

okay, this one looks cuter- (I am so sorry for spamming the chat;; )

[dawn python]

mmhhh... i fixed the hair a bit but i feel like i do have to keep the glowy strings 1x1 pixel; they look a bit too thick?

[hollow vale]

You're going to see this from a fairly zoomed out level, so keep that in mind.
There's a chance you may not even see the 1x1 details.

Compressing details makes a small sprite like that much more readable.

[dawn python]

true, true!
I ended up not doing the 1x1 strings and just kept it like this, i think i really just had tunnel vision on "OMG YOU GOTTA DO DETAILLLLSS!! MAKE IT LOOK PRETTYYY!!!"

[snow escarp]

that's why overworld is the worst part

[lilac anchor]

By far

[latent hazel]

this is why you have to make super gaudy outfit designs so you can see them in the overworld

[lilac anchor]

#1387500564090458162 message

finally have the full thing, now for the fixes if ya'll cpuld help point out issues

[hollow vale]

Hi @spiral dock! It looks like your pompadour hairstyle is a little broken.
Every other frame, the hairstyle needs to be shifted upwards to display correctly. Do you mind fixing this and re-submitting it?
Thank you ❤️

[spiral dock]

no problem; where should i resubmit it? does it need to go through the accepting process all over again?

[hollow vale]

You'll just submit it via the "submit hairstyles" form and mark it as a fix.

I'll review it when you submit it!

[spiral dock]

ok, thx

[snow escarp]

oooh the rewiews are happening 👀

bot intermission

out of curiosity, I imagine submissions are grouped by type, but are they in a sheet or straight up reviewed in google form?

[hollow vale]

It's a bit of a weird process.

When you submit an item via one of the forms, the data you send gets added into a google sheet (and a respective folder for images). We manually review it, then copy over the details from the sheet into another sheet, which the game uses for data.

@sour juniper may be able to explain how that last part works in more detail.

Also @spiral dock, thanks for the quick fixes! They look good.

oop... I accidentally deleted the pompadour instead of moving it to the accepted folder

gimme a sec

okay i uh, yeah, i'm gonna need you to resend that as a .zip file through here so you don't need to reupload it to the form

i thought i could undo the yeet but i cannot

[lilac anchor]

The files be like ^

[hollow vale]

Thanks Shit happens

[sour juniper]

Yeah! Basically for that last part, that spreadsheet is converted into a json that I put in the game's files for the game to read.

[hollow vale]

Oh btw, everything that's been submitted lately has been approved See you all next week

[lilac anchor]

i was ginna prob submit tomorrow, I gotta wait a week!?

[twin oyster]

No u can summit whenever he will check em in a week and theyll be added sometime™

[lilac anchor]

Very poor wording on my part, im quite tired. I mean I have to wait a week to know if its gonna be approved

[hollow vale]

I just go through the drive once a week since we don't have a lot of submissions. If more people post things I'll do it more often

I want to say I approved like 10 things?

And it only took like 30mins

You're welcome to post WIPs and designs in here, I can probably give you a good idea if they'll be added

[dawn python]

Progress on my OC's Custom outfit!! (Help, how does shading work;;)

I'm trying so hard to keep it at 32 colors;; so far I am at 22 ones!
Do you all use all the 32 colors for the trainer stuff?
-# I will scale it up once I am back at my PC;; scaling it online pushed the colors to +240

[snow escarp]

Needs some black outlines
You can prob reduce the color count by removing colors that are close or in between shades
For ex you could use the same white for the chest rope(dunno how it's called) as for the skirt part

Generally you want max 3-4 color per shade + black and + maybe white

[dawn python]

Yeaaah, I'm really scared to add black 😭
And trueee, the colors are so similar, it really is barely noticeable -
Normally he wears a slightly worn chainmail shirt below so I have been thinking of shifting it more into orange but for the simplicity of the sprites, I feel like I should make it part of the cloth 😅

[dawn python]

🙏 that's good to know!! I think I am already at 5/6 shades, thank youuuu!!
I will turn down it down and check if I can work some magic with black!

👉👈 I got a bit ahead of myself and made his walking sprite already;

[dawn python]

Added black outlines to a few parts of the outfit + colored his top in the skirt color + changed the skirt position a bit so it's not as flowy! (Red shows where it was before)

I feel like I actually have to take a better look at inGame outfits to see how they're outlined/shaded;

[snow escarp]

You can check the wiki
I don't remember the exact path, but there's a page with a list of the outfits

?tag wiki

[vast light]

Here's a link for PIF's official wikipedia https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokémon_Infinite_Fusion_Wiki

[lilac anchor]

Uhm, I am not submitting a hairstyle... i think theres a mix up (this is for outfit submission) @hollow vale

Okay wth I am so sorry

Appearently I cant read

I stg I need new glasses

Wait no ahhhh now I am spamming this place I read the weong section again

[snow escarp]

I prefer that 300% better that than a bot spamming

[lilac anchor]

My confusion and clumsiness is probably more amusing than spam bots, yeah

[dawn python]

Thank youuuu! that makes it a bit easier than clicking through all the gamefiles-

[dawn python]

THERE WE GO-

Added the black outline on the right side like I've seen in all the outfits, kept the left side simple, turned down the shades and took the reflection away from the skirt! (because ...why the hecc would a skirt be reflective? 😭 ) AND removed what i wanted to be the 2nd skirt layer / just fused it to 1 big skirt;

• fixed the boots! (Big thank you to every single person who made an outfit with boots because HOW DO YOU ACTUALLY DRAW THEEEEMMM? )

-# And i am so sorry for spamming the chat, i can continue to send the stuff in the thread i made if that's more appropriate!

[lilac anchor]

Sending stuff here is fine, its easier to grab eyes for feedback that way

I think with how light everything is especially the other outline colors, the black stands out a bit too much

You might want to concider darker outlines

[dawn python]

ooookie dokie! Lemme check if i can find a nice middle ground for that, one sec!

[dawn python]

I am a tiny bit torn between them all;
I feel like the very first one without a black outline and a straighter skirt looks the best atm but i don't think this counts as an official style? Making the outlines of the pants darker definitely helped a lot! but the skirt just looks bleh when it's outlined with black, or do i have tunnel vision?

[lilac anchor]

Scambot lives?

<@&306953740651462656>

[inner raven]

damn i wanted to check their roles but someone got there fast

[lilac anchor]

If by some miracle it happens again I'll let you know

[inner raven]

no worries! im going to bed now anyway

[lilac anchor]

Rest well!

[grizzled hill]

No wayyyy

[lilac anchor]

Holy shit, 2 in 1 day!?!?

<@&306953740651462656>

Thats insane, I wonder why they are sticking here?

[inner raven]

No clue, yag can see here just fine

[lilac anchor]

A or B

[lilac anchor]

I settled on A, looking back B looks so wrong lol

[next cosmos]

You can use the preview tool to look at both

@inner raven caught one! these were the roles it had

[inner raven]

thankies - i think yags just overwhelmed

[next cosmos]

It disappeared right away, I just got a screenshot before it did lol. I know you've been hunting for these, I'll keep my eyes out if I'm in the right place at the right time

[bright crown]

@inner raven

[hollow vale]

wee woo wee woo

[bright crown]

answer to their roles is no roles

[inner raven]

annoying

thankies for the ping

[hollow vale]

that one doesn't even have a link, i wonder if that's how they're getting around the autoban

[inner raven]

i think its just yag being overwhelmed with too many messages to manage at once atm

but i made a change and will see if it helps

[hollow vale]

Maybe? Usually they have a link with those images tho

[inner raven]

link or no link, there are automod rules for it

[bright crown]

It's always odd how it's this channel specifically

[inner raven]

yeah ive noticed that 😛

[hollow vale]

Makes me sad because I think it's one of yall and then it's not

[lilac anchor]

I haven't seen them use a link in a while

Anyways, I now say PIF needs an obligatory hot dog costume

[snow escarp]

it's probably bc you don't need any role to access it and type in
I'm pretty sure bots also get to the suggestions channels as well

[bright crown]

they get in any channel they can, gastly was wanting to see the roles of the ones that manage to stay in here

[lilac anchor]

head nihilego would be fun to see, idk if I want to make a nihilego hat but i certainly will throw the idea out there

Itd also just be funny since we dont have nihilego

[hollow vale]

eventually ™

But yes, to compensate for the bots, y'all should make more things /j

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656> once again stayed in this channel specifically

[hollow vale]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-cute-cat-55--k01KQNEPX1778W2MNAZEZ793JJF

[lilac anchor]

Draft, thoughts on how to improve?

[hollow vale]

Oh! I love that.

I would add a pixel right here to reflect the shape of the scarf's edges.

[lilac anchor]

Fair point, anything else? More so worried about the trainer sprite

[hollow vale]

Trainer looks ok

[lilac anchor]

Ill play around with it some more

[twin oyster]

Maybe a bit more of the black outline

[lilac anchor]

Decided to flup them because gravity
Also added some more black and detailing

[hollow vale]

oh yeah taht's looking way better

[rapid elbow]

Choice scarf?

[snow escarp]

effect should be: if worn the player walk/run faster, but they can only use one of the 4 "moves" in battle (attack, change pkm, item, run)

[lilac anchor]

Indeed

[lilac anchor]

I am terrified of the implications of what specs/band will do

Made the ow match the trainer sprite shape more

[snow escarp]

I think the tips could use darker outlines

[lilac anchor]

Im worried if I do that, the 2 parts will blend

[snow escarp]

they already do a bit

[lilac anchor]

Indeed, hence why I don't wanna make em blend more

Maybe if I make the shading darker

[twin oyster]

<@&306953740651462656>

[frozen plank]

it did the kick properly

didnt remove the message

expected behaviour, thanks

[twin oyster]

also @inner raven got one

[lilac anchor]

Doesnt look like making the shade darker helped much

[languid lagoon]

would someone be willing to make a cup of coffee as a hat/accessory that i can put on (give to) my pokemon

[lilac anchor]

That would be pretty silly, I do like silly

I might play around with it tomorrow

[lilac anchor]

Im just gonna submit the chouce scarf, if it needs to be changed so be it but otherwise I am content

[lilac anchor]

Something like this?

[lilac anchor]

<@&1346210147948822619>

?? I dont thats what I told you to do discord

<@&306953740651462656>

Sorry about that!

[snow escarp]

what happened?

[hollow vale]

I think the white parts need better contrasting outlines, it's very much just a white blob rn

[lilac anchor]

I definitely agree there that was like the 8th color combination I tried

[hollow vale]

try electrode's palette

[lilac anchor]

I meant for the plate but I can do that

[hollow vale]

The plate is definitely the most in need of a change, but I think something like voltorb/electrode being used for the entire sprite will give good overall contrast

[lilac anchor]

Anyone here make/know who made the head Eevee?

[hollow vale]

That'd be @snow escarp

[snow escarp]

that's me 👋

[lilac anchor]

was trying to find out on behalf of someone else, if they decide to follow through

[lilac anchor]

I realized have no odea if I ever actually submitted the scarf with my idea for implementation

[hollow vale]

I'll ping you if it's not there. I'll be checking the forms tomorrow.

[lilac anchor]

Aight, thanks

I have vague memories of doing it but I don't remember putting in my implementation idea

Or uploading the files

[snow escarp]

<@&306953740651462656>

another one 😔

[frozen plank]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-bug-cat-tap-silly-cat-gif-7220392409375092640

[inner raven]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358842639088353400/1491875022095126660/caption.gif

[snow escarp]

it stayed for almost 30 min

[hollow vale]

Was it the battle tower streak reward?

[hollow vale]

Other than that both things you posted were approved

[lilac anchor]

That yeah

[hollow vale]

I put it in the sheet

[lilac anchor]

Awesome, I highly doubt that idea will fly since its kinda evil but worth a shot

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656>

[tiny drum]

https://tenor.com/view/snom-pokemon-knife-threat-stab-gif-15740428

[lilac anchor]

Look out, they've got a knife!

[languid lagoon]

snife

[twin oyster]

@vapid gyro

[vapid gyro]

ping <@&306953740651462656> when this happens, everyone should be in on the fun

don't just ping me

[full quartz]

Hi guys

[lilac anchor]

[halcyon grove]

But I like pinging @vapid gyro

[vapid gyro]

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656>

[bright crown]

<@&306953740651462656> its always this channel

[hollow vale]

We just gotta make more cool stuff to drown out the bot

[lilac anchor]

Indeed

[inner raven]

I legit don't know why it's always this channel, I even added extra perms to yag here in case

I think it's just too many channels for yag to deal

[outer basin]

Maybe it's because the channel has the word custom, and the bots read that as being a good place to find people who want to buy things

[hollow vale]

That's what I'm thinking. We could try renaming it and see if it helps.

[snow escarp]

ready-made-outfits-discussion

[silk burrow]

outfits-creation-discussion

[hollow vale]

i was just thinking character-customization-discussion

or trainer-customization-discussion

[lilac anchor]

We do use the abbreviation CC (character customization) so thatd make sense

[outer basin]

Community Created Character Customization Conversation
CCCCC

[lilac anchor]

Contemplative Community Created Character Customization Content Conversional Chit Chat

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