#showdown-general

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prime furnace
midnight summit
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Heh, dragonite rangers

prime furnace
median thunder
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can someone explain why this is legal

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trios seem to be bugged

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you can add them as Mon 2 on the fusion

glacial bane
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It's not, you can build with it, but it won't validate

median thunder
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no I just found a match with that lmap

glacial bane
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Oh

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Maybe put this in the Showdown Support

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Oh no

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It works with all Triple fusions

median thunder
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yea

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only really matters for the regis cos the rest of them have more equitable stat distributions

glacial bane
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They'd still give huge movesets

median thunder
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yea

vivid junco
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Is there any mods here

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this guy is abusing a glitch to win

prime furnace
vivid junco
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wait auctaully

prime furnace
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oh wait

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nvm

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had to log in

vivid junco
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Can we ban this guy

vivid junco
glacial bane
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Lemme add that to the bug report

vivid junco
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will be patched in a few hours

glacial bane
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Ah

vivid junco
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Guy is being pretty toxic

glacial bane
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Not really, best thing is to just keep the name written or make a separate support report for that case specifically

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I assume at least...

undone saddle
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This looks so fun but an absolute unholy nightmare to balance

glacial bane
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The case we are talking about or the format in general?

undone saddle
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The format in general, should've clarified lol myb

vivid junco
glacial bane
vivid junco
prime furnace
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is this actually going to be the game were theres 1k rounds

astral yoke
prime furnace
undone saddle
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Lmao

undone saddle
glacial bane
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Don't put me in english class again guys, please

vivid junco
prime furnace
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I suck at english even though I speak it lol

prime furnace
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oh wait

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they are here

fast otter
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I don't moderate showdown so yeah I can't really do anything about that

glacial bane
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Anyways, I'm going to bed, bye snorsleep

vivid junco
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can you get anyone online who can

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I know millan is mod im pretty sure and gordo might be

prime furnace
fast otter
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I have no idea who the showdown mods are

prime furnace
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oh

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Millan is a mod

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I know that much

vivid junco
white sparrow
vivid junco
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Bc of a guy abusing a glitch

prime furnace
dull plaza
vivid junco
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I just want the elo back im gonna lose here

dull plaza
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It was fixed but now it somehow broke

vivid junco
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Games done

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Im gonna eat then head to bed

prime furnace
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gn

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now im going to go play with my team

vivid junco
vivid junco
prime furnace
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nvm then

solar kettle
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damn, ignites lead is massive

true wedge
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Just realized the power of Typhlosion + Regenerator mon. Gets free heals back to full with specs.

odd kiln
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why is it not fully spe invested

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what does 80/8 do

true wedge
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No idea lol

vivid junco
true wedge
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Didn't even notice until you pointed it out

proven wedge
prime furnace
vivid junco
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Im so mad

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Finally got back up to number 2

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Then lost next 2 matches then faced that

true wedge
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Oh wait I just saw it has v-create

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Yikes lol

solar kettle
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my best answer to em so far is a Wailord/Pyukumuku

true wedge
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All these v-creates, geomancy's and what-have-yous lol

solar kettle
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the spectral thieves actually seem pretty healthy

true wedge
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Yeah there's for sure some variation in which legendary-exclusive moves are problematic

noble helm
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No one talking?

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I made a very bad team heehee
(only has 2 pokemon)

odd kiln
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running haxorus with no setup

dusky steeple
sullen ore
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yes
so far the only legend sigs that got banned were double iron bash and geomancy

solar kettle
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tho Im sure you could make super steroid cats in this by making em ghost or steel without tera

hoary dune
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also question when will we get ru and uu and such if ever?

proven wedge
astral yoke
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Nah, triple fusions as mateiral is totally legit, u guys just salty

sullen ore
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just missed light of ruin and sacred fire on a snorcor that got double protect off
maybe this guy had a point

astral yoke
wary flame
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I can’t read my mistake

viscid skiff
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any suggestions to the held item here?

verbal pine
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probably sitrus berry

sullen ore
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yea you want sitrus so itll always activate regardless of how much damage you took

lament canopy
mighty knot
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i think i've found something i'll sprite (i play only with sprites i made, so it's harder to finds some broken stuff)

viscid skiff
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recommendations for a ghost type tank?

mighty knot
pulsar jetty
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how come Hydreigon can't learn Nasty Plot in Showdown? there's a Nasty Plot TM after all.

odd kiln
median thunder
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what are the reqs for a fusion having spectral thief

astral yoke
opal fiber
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Why does it say Thousand Waves doesn't exist in Gen 7

fast elm
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because I never legalized it damn

opal fiber
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This is wack

fast elm
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yeah I just legalized it in the code

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think I can squeeze in another restart?

opal fiber
fast elm
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alr try again

median thunder
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back up

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is there a list of changes

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uhhhhhhhh

astral yoke
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yoshiiiiii c'mon...

median thunder
fast elm
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💀

median thunder
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drop a draco.dek

fast elm
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why is this suddenly a problem lmao

astral yoke
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Also this

fast elm
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what the hell

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wait a second

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ok this is not right

astral yoke
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Brb, gonna make a fake bug and report it and make yoshi scratch his hair off

fast elm
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thats actually happening fr

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?

astral yoke
fast elm
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i'm in class lmao

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bad timing

astral yoke
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Which is more important, your classes and future, or random strangers on the internet wanting to play a Pokemon fangame's fangame

fast elm
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you get it

astral yoke
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Yep, so ditch class and get to fixing the bugs gdi

fast elm
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all I did to fix was restart with the same code

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this is the worst

astral yoke
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Now i got this

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Actually... this might be correct, since the only way Entei could get Extremespeed was via an event, which PIF doesn't have
Idek why Talondactyl could validate Double-Edge before

astral yoke
noble helm
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I thought entei can learn it normally?

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Unless thats gen 8

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@astral yoke

opal fiber
noble helm
fast elm
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ohh yeah i should've written a changelog

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you're on actual ingame learnsets now i think/hope

opal fiber
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There are so many move bugs huh

fast elm
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showdown has very very complicated move validation

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that doesn't ljke checking fusion movesets at all

opal fiber
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gg

astral yoke
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Damn... there goes my PoryZ/Entei...

wind junco
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I'm really loving this Showdown server honestly ( PS: I'm the Chi-Rex 🦖 person! )

prime furnace
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@fast elm hey

fast elm
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thats my fault for not restarting the server to fix the glitch immediately

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if they get on again i'll talk to them

median thunder
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where's the list of changes

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a lot of pokemon that didn't show as learning quiver dance now do

fast elm
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I can't list all the changes because its 31000 lines of learnsets that I scraped from the actual game pokedex file

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but aron can actually learn qd through a tutor in game

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whether thats supposed to be like that or not its possible

astral yoke
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Okay cool, so now Lycanroc can't learn it's own Signature attack, good to know

fast elm
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alr you found an error

median thunder
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pokemon that can get tutored parting shot don't come up when you search it as a tag

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like umbreon and krook etc

fast elm
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thats because they learn them as move expert moves

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which are only valid when fusing

median thunder
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I'm loving your project BTW I've put in like 200 games across 2 accs

median thunder
fast elm
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unfortunately theres no way to search for move expert things since they are specific to each fusion

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its annoying but there isn't really a solution

median thunder
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I like the new layout for like

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when you do make a fusion it shows that some moves r tutor specific

fast elm
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yeah it was recommended by smd0 who I won't @

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really good idea

astral yoke
next igloo
fast elm
fast elm
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D:

astral yoke
fast elm
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i intended to give togekiss moonblast?

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also lycanroc problem is solved

prime furnace
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Are there going to be updates to the cilent every day until hopefully everything is fixed

fast elm
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every day might be a little too optimistic since its just me on this and exam season is coming up but yeah I plan on fixing stuff til theres no more fixes to be made

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that isn't really possible but at least until bug reports slow considerably

prime furnace
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Yeah

fast elm
astral yoke
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Aight

unborn pine
fast elm
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yes in infinite fusion though

verbal pine
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is there a website or something that can show what expert moves can be learnt by fusions?

young saffron
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the wiki has exactly that

fast elm
verbal pine
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thanks

noble helm
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what is going on

astral yoke
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Now this was harder to find since it wasn't a case of validation saying it's not possible, but validation saying it IS possible lol

proven wedge
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Meanwhile my team gets this error: eventhough weezing clearly knows sludge wave

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Guess i gotta say goodbye to 5 base power and swap over to sludge bomb

astral yoke
odd kiln
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sludge bomb is better anyway

astral yoke
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Still a bug

sudden prawn
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Spore is a TM In infinite fusion, good chance Whimsicott can learn it

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Good time to pack safety goggles

fast elm
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yeah whimsicott learns it in-game

astral yoke
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...

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well that's not confusing

fast blade
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Might have to ban whimsicott lol

mighty knot
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or just ban prankster, problem solved mrshrug

fast blade
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Or just ban spore

mighty knot
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anyways, i won't notice the change

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i play AG

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x)

sudden prawn
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Lum berries are your friend

mighty knot
fast blade
glacial bane
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Prank Spore is just okay, we still have Sleep clause, it easy to tell when it happens and Dark types exist

sudden prawn
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And grass types!

glacial bane
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Guys we can't just ban everything that is just good

unborn pine
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spore is really annoying to play around

glacial bane
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But it's easy to play around it

unborn pine
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and when you're on 1 pokemon it's just a free click with prankster for the opponent

glacial bane
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Oh no, I'm now losing more

sudden prawn
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Annoying? Yes. Absolutely broken in the tier? Not in my experience.

unborn pine
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currently the only (common) counters I see are
Dark & Grass types
Being poisoned (gliscor)

noble helm
odd kiln
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right

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the old "just priority it" argument

unborn pine
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revive cars

sudden prawn
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Lum berries, Safety Goggles, Marvel Scale. Many abilities make you immune to sleep.

glacial bane
odd kiln
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safety goggles

formal mirage
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does regitrio have any use or is it as bad as it looks?

odd kiln
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the item that definitely does something other than block spore

odd kiln
unborn pine
formal mirage
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damn

unborn pine
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magic bounce: fair enough, but espeon and xatu aren't super good
Lum berry: not that common
Extreme speed: if they survive they can still put you to sleep
Guts: I haven't tried this yet

odd kiln
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Ability: Prankster  
Fusion: Whimsicott  
Alt: a  
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Timid Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Shadow Ball  
- Moonblast  
- Spore  
- Calm Mind```
take this for example
immune to espeed hits basically every mbouncer and dark type
glacial bane
odd kiln
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bc ppl use dumb shit like whimsicott galv that doesnt do anything

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moment ppl start realizing you can just throw on whimsicott on a strong mon to give it spore shits gonna do something

glacial bane
glacial bane
odd kiln
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do you even need prankster

odd kiln
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the example i used has 104 spe

glacial bane
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Even getting spore off is just okay?

glacial bane
odd kiln
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priority is not and has never been a viable way of keeping something in check

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if it was stuff like pheromosa would be just fine in ou

glacial bane
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I feel like I'm arguing with scrubs

glacial bane
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I want to end this argument with this.

If you want something banned, I'd love to propose we make polls

odd kiln
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ur priority argument doesnt even work when shit like scizor is slow and thus will be outsped by prank spore

glacial bane
odd kiln
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you can run it with and you can run it without

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if ur check only works half the time its not a check is it

glacial bane
odd kiln
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besides that it requires you to have a safe switchin and preserve the mon and scizor fusions are not known to be longevity mons in the current meta

unborn pine
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you can also run multiple spore Pokémon on the same team

glacial bane
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Sleep clause.

unborn pine
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not like that

glacial bane
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I just leave a pokemon asleep and now you are screwed

unborn pine
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I mean if you have a counter for a specific one they could have another

odd kiln
glacial bane
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eww, gen 9

unborn pine
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ferro isn't in gen 9

glacial bane
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great tusk

unborn pine
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natdex then

glacial bane
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eww

unborn pine
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tera sucks

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but i digress

stark rover
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Can we add custom sprite's animation into showdown? We can't add gif to the game but showdown can, right????

proven wedge
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Now i am not an pokemon expert, however!

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I do not think Aggron is capable of learning quiver dance

odd kiln
proven wedge
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bruh

fast blade
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I think they removed it for balance reasons in-game

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Because I tried to get it as an egg move at the egg move tutor and it didn't let me

unborn pine
astral yoke
fast blade
glacial bane
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Fair

fast blade
glacial bane
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Yep

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That's why I said "just good" heehee

fast blade
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Also I'm trying to do the reverse sometimes lol. I think zam should be unbanned

fast blade
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Idk man I was like half joking though

glacial bane
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Wait what?

wary flame
fast blade
glacial bane
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"you just disagree about what is too good"

young saffron
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the idea with bans is that if there is an incredibly popular strategy with little counterplay, it probably should be looked into.

fast blade
fast blade
glacial bane
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Maybe I'm overthinking

ruby current
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I was making a Lycanroc Rampardos for a sand team prototype

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Although I wish we had Lycanroc-Dusk for Tough Claws access

wispy ember
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@pure breach is rapid spin supposed to increase speed in IFDex?

pure breach
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Shouldn’t

wispy ember
pure breach
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Okok

wispy ember
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can link the replay if you so desire

pure breach
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There’s a bunch of bugs at the minute, Yoshi is trying to implement the IF learnsets properly and it’s causing validation issues. Alongside that, there’s a known bug that randomly occurs where gen 9 mechanics seep into gen 7. This last one just requires the server to restart. I do ask everyone keep reporting bugs, but also be patient as Yoshi is a one man army trying to fix everything

wispy ember
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all good

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I spectate a lot so I see stuff happening

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best to report it happo

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also god, gliscor truly is the most OU mon in IFdex lmao

ruby current
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Fuse both of them and create a monster

wispy ember
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everything has a counter

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Gliscor is shrimply very versatile

ruby current
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Not my Foolproof™️ strategy

wispy ember
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Snorlax/Gliscor is scary

fast blade
glacial bane
fast elm
fast blade
glacial bane
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Sometimes it asks for a type combo or a specific move too...

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Rain gaming.

fast blade
fast blade
# glacial bane Rain gaming.

Swift swim+specs+Water Spout shocks everyone in the amount of damage it does. I had people running a tangrowth fusion with assault vest and it still was doing like 30% or something

glacial bane
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Same, it's funny

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If only I was actually decent a piloting my team heehee

true fiber
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I think this thing is pretty funny/annoying for the unlimited format

solar kettle
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rigged

true fiber
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ye

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you most definitely got scammed

dusky steeple
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does entei not learn flare blitz?

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Seems like the curse one is right tho, even if I was using it yesterday

unborn pine
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I think maybe life orb is better, since you do more damage and heal more

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You can also run roost to have prio reg healing

true fiber
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But yeah, you do gain stab

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It might be better

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I don't know damage enough by heart to just know which one is better off the top of my head.

hard prawn
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Which Pokemon could I use to counter the triple fusion of Hoenn's starters?

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I have no idea

wary flame
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dragons type resit all of there stabs

unborn pine
true fiber
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and spa

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Which isn't as important

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I also figure leftovers is probably better overall.

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Works well with protect obviously

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fairy/flying also has 5 weaknesses instead of just 3

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But does have a couple extra resists

hard prawn
prime garnet
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This is gonna be a wild event ahaha

wary flame
outer tusk
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is it singles or doubles?

proven wedge
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I have cooked the ultimate problem solver mon

proven wedge
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you can swap focus sash with choice scarf incase you want a answer to mons that are extremely fast

outer tusk
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no custom sprite though

proven wedge
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yeah sadly

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My opponent is forcing a endless battle

pure breach
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looks to me like you're getting pp stalled

proven wedge
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Thats pp stalling EXTREME

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That slowbro has no attacking moves AT ALL

true fiber
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Nothing a little Curse staller wouldn’t fix.

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Chansey or Blissey with Dusknoir or Cofagrigus

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Chansey of eviolite

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Blissey if lefties

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I like Cofagrigus for mummy

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Gets rid of annoying abilities

proven wedge
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now its CLEARLY forcing endless battles

true fiber
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Lmao

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I mean, his entire plan is to make the other person quit.

unborn pine
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more stupid funny names

pure breach
true fiber
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Not to actually win

pure breach
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is that AG or OU?

proven wedge
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ou

hard prawn
pure breach
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uhhh Ican try something

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is Vastalgiar your user in showdown too?

proven wedge
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ye

true fiber
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Please screenshot whatever happens lol

proven wedge
pure breach
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oh it looks like they just forfeit lol

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oh nvm

unborn pine
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That's built in

pure breach
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endless battle clause activated

hard prawn
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Hoenn starter triple is só annoyng @pure breach u have a Tip?

pure breach
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I thought it just wasn't working lol

true fiber
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Lmao

pure breach
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format?

true fiber
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What a shitter

proven wedge
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Was IF Dex Ou

pure breach
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they're talking about this thing

true fiber
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Figured

proven wedge
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oh xD

hard prawn
true fiber
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Didn’t know if that one had either of the available secondary typings

pure breach
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I mean, as far as I've found most bulky mons deal with it just fine

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pex fusions, umbreon fusions

hard prawn
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I hate that And I don't know how to counter

true fiber
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Toxic staller tbh

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So any pex fusion lol

pure breach
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yeah lol

hard prawn
true fiber
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Nothing they can do

pure breach
hard prawn
pure breach
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honestly something like Dusclops Pex sounds really good at the minute, with the eviolite patch

true fiber
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Normal/ghost staller

pure breach
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lacking HP tho

pure breach
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I'm usually a big fan of Umbreon/Pex, parting shot, toxic, wish, baneful

pure breach
hard prawn
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Tranks

true fiber
hard prawn
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A normal ghost could be good there?

next igloo
true fiber
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The swampert/quagsire seems a little redundant to me. But I get that it’s mainly just to put unaware onto Swampert.

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Idk what I’d replace on that team.

pure breach
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if you're just looking to put Unaware on a water type mon, Pyukumuku is usually a better call

unborn pine
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Both of your defensive pokemon are weak to grass, that might be exploitable

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Although dragocor can probably handle them with poison heal

lethal sundial
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Is there a way to change the sprite into an alt?

outer tusk
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@proven wedge problem solver is scary

proven wedge
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He is indeed solving current problems

outer tusk
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lol

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I think compound eyes isn't working correctly

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i missed 3 times in a row

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highly improbably

proven wedge
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but not impossible

bronze totem
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ooooh tourney

tulip talon
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Endless Battle Clause is like the least likely clause

glacial bane
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Btw, who leagalized Swagger?

hard prawn
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How do I counter the fusion of deagonite and sylveon

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He's so boring

glacial bane
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Uhh, Scizor is what I use usually

ruby current
fast blade
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4x fairy resist, can retaliate with a faster Espeed

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Also guaranteed burns on SF, 60% chance to flinch on iron head, etc

fast blade
fast blade
# pure breach

What are it's weaknesses? Rock and flying? I think everything else is covered by another type

drifting kite
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Swamptiliken is just what happens when you give Slaking actual STABs and Unburden

snow rampart
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lol

drifting kite
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Tell me I'm wrong

snow rampart
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as my ace in the hole I run this fellow

drifting kite
snow rampart
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jesus discord squished the SS

fast blade
drifting kite
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So how does Multi-Attack work without the Silvally Memories?

fast blade
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Reason # 6 billion not to play Nat dex

dense hazel
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Guys does someone have the list of custom moves (for example murkrow/mew having spore when they don't when non fused)?

glacial bane
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Mew gets Spore

dense hazel
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Oh

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What about the legendary moves like spectral thief?

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It's in the site

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I should read before asking

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Thanks!

hard prawn
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What you think about this team?

hard prawn
hard prawn
wind junco
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but that's just me

shadow arrow
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why are there so many pokemon that can learn spore now?

drifting kite
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And they all have Prankster

shadow arrow
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i mean, not just breloom and paras

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what happun?

glacial bane
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Apperently it's a TM or there is a Move Tutor?

drifting kite
glacial bane
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So yeah, Whimsicott gets it without help

shadow arrow
drifting kite
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WAT

glacial bane
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Mew and Celebi can learn it

drifting kite
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AAAAHHHHH

glacial bane
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Don't worry, it's just fine heehee

drifting kite
shadow arrow
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I thought that TM was only available thru debug mode

glacial bane
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And randomizer I think?

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So yeah, we have it

shadow arrow
glacial bane
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Just make Dark and Grass types Trollgar

drifting kite
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I'm using Insomnia Hypno from now on

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Give those sleep-spamming cotton balls a taste of their own medicine.

shadow arrow
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also i don't know if this has been fixed yet but rapid spin currently has its gen 8 properties in gen7 ou

drifting kite
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I think we can let that slide

glacial bane
drifting kite
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Insomnia mons can't be put to sleep at all

glacial bane
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We don't really use other sleep move I think?

shadow arrow
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yawn

glacial bane
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Eh, fair

shadow arrow
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no body uses it but its still good

drifting kite
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I've seen a couple of people running Hypnosis, the madlads

glacial bane
drifting kite
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I mean, you could pair it with Pursuit

shadow arrow
shadow arrow
drifting kite
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I wish they'd bring Pursuit back in the official games

glacial bane
shadow arrow
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you would want to use yawn on the opponent switching

glacial bane
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Yeah...

young saffron
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no more meteor mash jirachi?

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i havent played since i hit top 25

astral yoke
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Ahhh gdi... the event is happening while i'm not available... rotten luck

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Oh well, not like i'll win anyways

shadow arrow
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wait why can't weavile learn icicle crash anymore? its an egg move

glacial bane
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...Not sure

fast blade
astral yoke
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I wonder if this logic also applies to Liquidation?

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Since Araquanid has yet to be added

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Nope, mons can learn Liquidation... so that's wierd

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Oh wait, i forgot, we got Mareanie, that's why

shadow arrow
#

then why can mamoswine still learn it?

hard prawn
#

New team

glacial bane
#

Seems alright I think

fast blade
# hard prawn New team

If you're gonna run no guard garchomp, you should use dragon rush. 100 BP STAB with perfect accuracy

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How does it get dragon dance? Garchomp isn't supposed to get the move

shadow arrow
#

dragon dance is a tm in IF

glacial bane
#

Uhhh...he does now

shadow arrow
#

all the IF TM compatibility is here now (even the TM's that arent obtainable)

fast blade
fast blade
shadow arrow
shadow arrow
#

oh yeah quiver dance is a tm too

placid hornet
#

just ban gliscor already

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is a must for a team that wanna win

wispy ember
#

is not

placid hornet
#

should not happen

placid hornet
glacial bane
#

Did we just battle?

placid hornet
#

gliscor or a counter for gliscor

wispy ember
#

it is not

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my v9 does not have a gliscor

placid hornet
astral yoke
wispy ember
#

and yet, it has won me a lot of games

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it's a skill issue really

glacial bane
#

Just won with Snorcor, that's why I am asking

placid hornet
#

i just cant swallow it

astral yoke
#

I don't doubt that Gliscor is crazy good

placid hornet
wispy ember
#

it is crazy good

glacial bane
#

Ah

astral yoke
#

Whether it gets banned or not i'll leave it to the mods

wispy ember
#

but it lacks Sp.D

placid hornet
#

ive seen too many gliscors today

wispy ember
#

yeah

placid hornet
wispy ember
#

gliscor is the most used pokemon in OU

astral yoke
#

But for now, always prepare counter measures for Gliscor, or have a team that will always overpower it

wispy ember
#

at 7.11%

placid hornet
#

its the moment #getgliscorandregisteelbanned

drifting kite
wispy ember
#

registeel is not as strong as we originally thought tbh

glacial bane
#

Wait, what did Registeel do?

drifting kite
#

What did Registeel do?

placid hornet
#

being ugly

wispy ember
#

registeel offers nothing but stats

placid hornet
#

sorry

glacial bane
#

damn

wispy ember
#

you can literally make a base skarmory smogon set

#

slap a registeel on it

glacial bane
#

(and typing)

wispy ember
#

and voi'la, you have a better skarmory

astral yoke
#

150 def and sp.def, Clear Body, and... not much else

wispy ember
placid hornet
#

its objectively the worse regi in looks

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and people keep playing it without custom fusions

astral yoke
wispy ember
#

sadly it has the best typing of the trio

placid hornet
#

so i have to see that ugly thing every time peepoCry

drifting kite
astral yoke
#

Fck u then, Steel looks the... 2nd best

placid hornet
astral yoke
#

Rock is ugly af

placid hornet
#

rock has personality

astral yoke
#

Personality of a trash can

placid hornet
#

steel is just a grey mess

drifting kite
#

Where?

wispy ember
#

did you know, you can have battles be displayed on the right?

astral yoke
#

Steel is futuristic

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Sleek, clean, like a robot

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Rock is rock

placid hornet
#

if thats a robot

wispy ember
#

literally just a base smogon skarmory set

placid hornet
#

it looks like a golem with a 80s futuristic wash

wispy ember
#

but registeel makes it better heehee

astral yoke
drifting kite
#

Can we make a Registeel/Skarmory joke fusion that's just a brick wall?

wispy ember
#

my favourite skarmory set is lanturn/skarmory volt absorb

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spikes, roost, vswitch and smth

astral yoke
glacial bane
wispy ember
#

it's only weakness is rock

glacial bane
#

Okay

drifting kite
#

Real Gen 3 OU hours

wispy ember
#

oh yeah scald

placid hornet
#

stealth rock is for mons without recovery

wispy ember
#

scald, spikes, roost, vswitch volt absorb leftovers lanturn/skarmory

placid hornet
#

spikes is better only if u can put +2 layers

wispy ember
placid hornet
#

lanturn KannaBear_Love

astral yoke
#

Idk, we have so many flying types that spikes seems less effective than rocks

wispy ember
#

I lowkey feel like making some joke sprites just for my team

#

as currently I am running heatran and landorusT

fast blade
#

Most of the additions make sense, like yanmega quiver dance or togekiss getting shell smash.

DD Garchomp and QD Aggron are WILD

wispy ember
#

in IFDex mind you

glacial bane
#

Honetly based

wispy ember
drifting kite
#

Milotic/Pidgeot actually puts in work, why?

wispy ember
#

water/flying

placid hornet
wispy ember
#

very bulky

astral yoke
wispy ember
#

Let Me Cook v4 it is then

drifting kite
wispy ember
#

you may not

#

a magician does not reveal his secrets

astral yoke
#

Sad that i won't be able to participate in the showdown event...

wispy ember
#

I will be spectating

wispy ember
#

besides it being water/flying, there isn't much going for it actually heehee

astral yoke
#

Really wanted to see how far my team could take me

wispy ember
#

Milotic gyarados on the other hand

astral yoke
#

Maybe i should get someone to represent me

wispy ember
#

want me to use your sun team? Trollgar

astral yoke
#

If u want to, but i think u're better than me?

#

We could have a match sometime to see if it's better than what u have

wispy ember
#

I was higher than you on the ladder today

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for a few

#

but then decided to play some more

astral yoke
#

I haven't played ladder since i haven't found a new gimmick

wispy ember
#

I just made a team that put me out of my 50% wr trap

astral yoke
#

Nothing is still as fun as Mind Blown Electrode

wispy ember
#

it is

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no special ability besides marvel scale

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move pool is gen 1 pidgeot so

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not gen 1 but still garbage compared to the other options

drifting kite
#

And yet it has won me games, whyyyyyyy

#

It's so bad

wispy ember
#

Gyarados/Milotic gives you intimitade which is omega useful

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you still get milotics bulk

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whilst having gyarados'es atk stat

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

isn't this ice/psychic

drifting kite
#

Exeggutor gets Mind Blown wtf

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

it does

dull plaza
astral yoke
#

I said gimmick, not a meme

wispy ember
#

Ice/Psychic, no speed, dies to whatever you put at it

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

oh lol

astral yoke
#

Shit gimmick then

wispy ember
#

it first has to survive a hit tho

drifting kite
#

What happens when Harvest doesn't go off

dull plaza
astral yoke
#

Why even giv it Mind Blown without Magic Guard?

#

At that point might as well give it Explosion

wispy ember
#

75 base hp, 93 base def, 88 base sp.d

#

mid

#

and this

drifting kite
#

It wasn't survivng long enough to boom anyway

astral yoke
wispy ember
#

whats the difference

dull plaza
#

I NEVER SAID IT WAS EVEN MID, I said it was trash lol

astral yoke
#

Mid is... "meh", or below average

drifting kite
#

Trash is trash

dull plaza
astral yoke
#

This doesn't even warrant me taking a look at the stats to know it's trash

wispy ember
#

the stats are not the worst

#

the typing is

astral yoke
#

Pls, u could give it Steel/Fairy and it would still be trash

dull plaza
#

Rule 1: Never be a bulky ice type
Rule 2: Never be Psychic type

wispy ember
#

espeon's magic bounce :

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

and xatu requires you to use it as a body fusion to get rid of the psychic type

astral yoke
wispy ember
#

with xatu's 70 base def/sp.d stats heehee

#

I've seen aggron/xatu today

placid hornet
#

the thing i used to pirate the wii

astral yoke
wispy ember
#

yes

#

I've seen

#

you can always follow my golden advice

drifting kite
#

Which part of that gets Quiver Dance

wispy ember
#

When in doubt, registeel it out

wispy ember
#

and create yourself a special walled skarmory

#

without entry hazards tho

placid hornet
wispy ember
#

nvm, registeel gets stealth rock

dull plaza
glacial bane
wispy ember
#

don't look at the movepool

drifting kite
#

Am I seeing this right or does Gliscor get Crabhammer now?

dull plaza
drifting kite
#

WHY

sudden prawn
#

They are technically crabs

dull plaza
#

They fixed movepoold

sudden prawn
#

parasect as well

shadow arrow
#

something immoral I cooked up

dull plaza
fast blade
wispy ember
drifting kite
#

I think we are stretching the definition of a crab just a little

fast blade
fast blade
sudden prawn
#

All things become crab, some sooner than others

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

didn't take long to come up with it

#

defog seems a bit pointless

#

but you can't always predict when an entry hazard is coming

glacial bane
#

It can learn Haze heehee

wispy ember
#

yes

fast blade
wispy ember
fast blade
#

Not "yet"

shadow arrow
wispy ember
#

they should be fully implemented iirc

fast blade
drifting kite
#

What Pokemon get Oblivion Wing when fused?

glacial bane
dull plaza
shadow arrow
wispy ember
#

actually not stupid

fast blade
#

That's not true

wispy ember
fast blade
#

Or at least not according to the guy who does it

fast blade
wispy ember
#

375 def

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

400smth sp.d

#

loses 19 hp

#

and offensive stats and speed do not matter

drifting kite
wispy ember
#

this to copy

fast blade
wispy ember
#

can mimic the other stats

fast blade
wispy ember
#

best I could come up with

wispy ember
#

change the ability to static

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or pressure

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since dark aura is not something I can copy

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and voi'la, you've gotten yourself a Walmart Yveltal

dull plaza
wispy ember
shadow arrow
#

hydreigon/talonflame might be good too

dull plaza
#

I wasn’t talking about the moves Despair

wispy ember
#

more speed, less Sp.A

shadow arrow
#

I would replace taunt with nasty plot, 108 spatk is probably not enough

wispy ember
dull plaza
#

And air balloon too

wispy ember
#

I noticed that

#

and correct myself lmao

astral yoke
#

Lol

wispy ember
#

these are all just concepts anyway

#

So called "Let Me Cook v4"

astral yoke
#

Generally my measuring stick is Sylvern, whether mons can compete with it in any measure

#

Gale wings oblivion wings sounds fun, but lacks power

wispy ember
#

I have a counter for Sylvern

astral yoke
#

And any dmg u take negates gale wings

wispy ember
#

and any other pixilate user tbh

astral yoke
#

I don't mean vs-ing sylvern

wispy ember
#

but yeah I get it

astral yoke
#

I mean in terms of performance

wispy ember
#

considering how common it is

#

there is a fairy wall in every team

dull plaza
wispy ember
#

thing is

#

with gale wings

#

you move first

astral yoke
#

U go first, u take dmg, thwn u don't go 1st no more

wispy ember
#

yeah that^

odd kiln
#

Hykiss (Hydreigon) @ Life Orb
Ability: Super Luck / Serene Grace
Fusion: Togekiss
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid / Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Dark Pulse
  • Oblivion Wing
  • Nasty Plot
  • Earth Power / Fire Blast / Roost
#

sounds pretty good

wispy ember
#

that super luck

odd kiln
#

neither option is v good

#

ig grace gives you better returns w 40% flinch pulse

shadow arrow
#

this is an option too i guess

thick axle
#

Wouldn't gale wings be funnier? I mean, oblivion wing may heal it to full hp

shadow arrow
#

you would go first at full hp

dull plaza
astral yoke
#

That said, 364 speed is nothing to sneeze at. You outspeed most "general" sweepers

#

Ofc u still lose to choice sweepers

#

But oblivion wing lacks fire power

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And ppl overestimate how much u can recover with it

dull plaza
astral yoke
fast blade
astral yoke
#

It needed crits to be powerful

#

Remember that i use Sylvern as a measuring stick

wispy ember
#

then I'd redirect it

astral yoke
#

It's hard to compete with a 238 BP raw Boomburst, but it's what u have to compete with

torn jay
#

Tbh the boomy set could be counted with Sylveon Arcanine

astral yoke
fast blade
#

Also usually "base power" usually implies you're excluding STAB

astral yoke
#

140 x 1.7 no? Did i miss something?

fast blade
glacial bane
#

Why did people share Yveltals at home?
(Sorry for being late to the party)

astral yoke
#

Pretty sure multipliers are additive and not multiplicative

fast blade
astral yoke
#

They're called multipliers cuz they multiply your stats, but the factors themselves are additive

odd kiln
#

gligar

#

incorrect

#

all multipliers are multiplied

fast blade
#

That's not how math works

#

Then any multiplier would be nerfed by the presence of any other multipliers

#

Via diminishing returns

astral yoke
#

Yeah, just checked the damage formula, you're right, it's multiplicative

astral yoke
fast blade
astral yoke
#

I had assumed that the way the formula works is that the multiplier was 1 + STAB + Multipliers, so a 50% STAB and Pixelate 20% would be 1 + 0.5 + 0.2, which would be 1.7

noble helm
fast blade
placid hornet
#

I MEAN

odd kiln
#

you mean what

viscid skiff
#

so uh

#

im a bit confused

#

i saw lycanroc's accelerock listed as a fusion only expert move in gen 7 ag

#

but now its listed as illegal, what are fusion only expert moves

placid hornet
wind junco
#

If yall want to watch some ultra fun gameplay I'm joking

tawdry knot
#

is that the 300 turn match I just saw

wind junco
#

yea

#

I was one of the spectators

tawdry knot
#

I wanted to spectate some matches to see what the meta's like

#

now I'm scared

placid hornet
#

how does people like singles with 1 of 5 battles being +60 turns

wind junco
#

I can get some battles being around 60 turns

#

but this was crazy

placid hornet
#

sorry but this way of playing pokemon feels awful

#

no one plays doubles tho so im stuck with it

wind junco
#

oh, you usually like VGC?

placid hornet
#

i love vgc

#

this tho

#

searching for 25 min

tawdry knot
#

I hate everything running protect

proud stump
#

did they ban e speed?

tawdry knot
#

no

wind junco
tawdry knot
#

just watched someone get sweeped by espeed huge power azumarl/dragonite

proud stump
#

i was using espeed now i cant use it

glacial bane
placid hornet
#

not azumarill

tawdry knot
#

that one yeah

placid hornet
tawdry knot
#

I always got those backwards

astral yoke
#

i had little experience in singles (and that little was me getting rekt, and running into stall)

inner jasper
#

Pixelate E-Speed is another thing that can just sweep. Banded Sylveon/Dragonite or Sylveon/Arcanine just chunks most things.

placid hornet
#

i prefer getting rekt every time than using a single stall mon

sturdy sierra
astral yoke
tawdry knot
#

pixelate does give stab if you're fairy type? or what that changed?

placid hornet
#

it does

tawdry knot
#

then what is caffeine talking about?

placid hornet
#

im not sure lol

wind junco
inner jasper
#

I mean its not to say it isn't countered by Steel/Poison/Fire but it still hits like a truck. Oh hey that might be me lol

shadow arrow
#

its countered by steel/poison/fire types until the opponent decides to click EQ on your switch instead

#

still hard walled by weezing tho heehee

inner jasper
#

Yep, I run Earthquake/Fire Punch for pesty things like Metagross/Dhelmise

fast blade
fast blade
wind junco
true wedge
#

If I may congratulate myself for a moment, I'm very happy 😄

proud stump
#

tbh if im still top 100 im happy

fast blade
#

Anyone running any refrigerate sets?

proud stump
#

nah sorry

sturdy sierra
#

I'm like top 50 on OU ladder so I'm quite happy

proud stump
#

im 105th rn 😦

#

i just dropped more though

#

versed a mon that countered my whole team

fast blade
outer tusk
#

What is everyone's most useful pokemon so far?

open cairn
#

three gassy balls (Weezing) @ Eviolite
Ability: Levitate
Fusion: Magneton
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Sludge Bomb
  • Flash Cannon
  • Flamethrower
  • Parabolic Charge
proud stump
#

Ambinite (Ambipom) @ Silk Scarf
Ability: Technician
Fusion: Dragonite
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Fake Out
  • Extreme Speed
  • Knock Off
  • U-turn
outer tusk
#

had the heal fight

proud stump
#

ohh

#

the tangrowth one?

outer tusk
#

yup

#

trying to playtest a team for the tournament

proud stump
#

oh yep

outer tusk
#

speaking of which: Duscgrowth (Dusclops) @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
Fusion: Tangrowth
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Impish Nature

  • Knock Off
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Night Shade
  • Leech Seed
proud stump
#

got reccomendations for a team change for me?

outer tusk
#

your normal/fire walled me, funny enough

proud stump
#

yeah its a really good mon

#

with fluffy

outer tusk
#

I'm stealing it 😄

proud stump
#

oh lol

proud stump
outer tusk
#

Blazdactyl (Blaziken) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Rock Head
Fusion: Aerodactyl
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • High Jump Kick
  • Brave Bird
  • Flare Blitz
  • Knock Off

this has been useful too

outer tusk
proud stump
#

thankds

proud stump
outer tusk
#

yup

#

I originally wanted a fast head smasher, but nothing is weak to rock

true wedge