#showdown-teambuilding

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late leaf
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Ah just noticed that Articuno isn't ice type😭

normal plank
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the raichu is too slow to do plot shenanigans

late leaf
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He kinda buff tho

normal plank
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uh no he ain't

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run lorb on the ninjask

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and shadow ball and bug buzz

late leaf
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I don't wanna get one shot by a rock 😭

normal plank
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get a steel type Quagless

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put all the glaceon evs into spdef

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cuz stance change

late leaf
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Ahhh you right

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He's pretty good tho right?

normal plank
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I suppose Quagless

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luretta is just better than that primape

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also you might wanna get a defogger or spinner because your whole team hates rocks

late leaf
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This is my team in the game too that's why I'm running it lol

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Yeah was also noticing that

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What about Articuno?

normal plank
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bad

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replace

late leaf
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What's bad about it tho?

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Other than it not being ice type

normal plank
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is this supposed to be an ubers team

late leaf
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I guess lol

normal plank
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at least run speed evs

late leaf
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That's why Its bulky is it that likely to get one shot?

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I guess if it was ice type it'd be better off

normal plank
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there's crazy shi in ubers

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ho-etta cc prob ohkos

late leaf
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Yeah I've never played the fusion showdown so I'm not educated in the metas

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You didn't say anything about Charizard tho

normal plank
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it's fine ig

late leaf
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So only 2 decent mons on my team?

normal plank
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i guess

late leaf
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Preciate it

formal nexus
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How can I improve my team

patent hatch
snow pike
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should I run a registeel moltres physdef or spedef

eternal basalt
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physdef for sure, switch it in for that flame fishing

wet obsidian
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Thoughts on these two as a hyper offense lead in doubles OU? Ditish hits 550 speed with quick powder and Krookoen hits 549 with scarf

wet obsidian
quiet salmon
quiet salmon
wet obsidian
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Didn't realise follow me redirected moves against your own teammate, lesson learned lol

wet obsidian
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The other way I can get an anger point off is chansey fused with absol/togekiss with lucky glove and super luck, and using extreme speed or feint. But they need to be faster than a follow me opponent because all those moves are +2 priority, and I lose dazzling. It's a tough one and obvs super gimmicky

quiet salmon
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yeah that doesnt sound very viable

desert crypt
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Delphfable (Delphox) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Fusion: Clefable
Timid Nature

  • Flamethrower
  • Moonblast
  • Psyshock
  • Calm Mind

Excados (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
Fusion: Gyarados
Adamant Nature

  • Rapid Spin
  • Stealth Rock
  • Earthquake
  • Waterfall

Glislax (Gliscor) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Fusion: Snorlax
Adamant Nature

  • Protect
  • Facade
  • Earthquake
  • Substitute

Rotrodon (Rotom) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Fusion: Gastrodon
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Volt Switch
  • Hydro Pump
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Pain Split

Garia (Garchomp) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Cloud Nine
Fusion: Altaria
Jolly Nature

  • Outrage
  • Earthquake
  • U-turn
  • Stone Edge

Binja (Bisharp) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Wonder Guard
Fusion: Shedinja

  • Swords Dance
  • Shadow Sneak
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Protect
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Any tips on better fleshing out my team?

normal plank
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is this natdex ubers

quiet salmon
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ubers bans wg

quiet salmon
desert crypt
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What is ndag?

desert crypt
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Oh, Natdex

desert crypt
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What changes would you recommend for the team?

quiet salmon
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theres a lot to change to be viable into the meta but uhhhhhh

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ig starting with binja shedinjas usually want to have access to endeavor bc you instantly set the opp to 1 hp

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personally i use mabosstiff bc it also has pain split in case of spiky shield/rocky helmet but you can also go houndoom/honchrkow since they have a sprite

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Ability: Wonder Guard  
Tera Type: Poison  
Fusion: Shedinja  
EVs: 252 Atk  
Brave Nature  
IVs: 0 Def / 0 SpD / 0 Spe  
- Endeavor  
- Shadow Sneak  
- Spirit Shackle  
- Will-O-Wisp```
something like this
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tera poison to be immune to toxic/fairy moves

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next id change gliscor snorlax to gliscor regigigas bc it has way more stats

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Ability: Poison Heal  
Tera Type: Normal  
Fusion: Regigigas  
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe  
Jolly Nature  
- Facade  
- Earthquake  
- Toxic / Knock Off  
- Spikes```
good spiker to beat sheds, toxic hits them besides bug steel while knock can remove hdb from other mons
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i like the idea with drill but it needs stats so im thinking something like this ```Zekceus (Zekrom) @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Teravolt
Tera Type: Water
Fusion: Arceus-Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Judgment
  • Will-O-Wisp
  • Stealth Rock
  • Recover```
    to bypass bouncers and hit shed with also
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rotom just doesnt have the stats to do stuff and with the zekrom we have a wisp user so blissey hatterene is a good pick to support shed by bouncing hazards and status ```Blisrene (Blissey) (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Steel
Fusion: Hatterene
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

  • Alluring Voice
  • Wish
  • Soft-Boiled
  • Teleport```
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garia similarly doesnt do enough dmg so a good revenge killer is chansey ditto since it can transform into the opp but with 182 max hp and +1 from eviolite ```Chanto (Chansey) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
Tera Type: Steel
Fusion: Ditto
Alt: a
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 1 Atk

  • Transform
  • Teleport
  • Seismic Toss
  • Soft-Boiled```
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finally a better mg user in blacephalon alakazam since it gets access to recoil free midn blown ```Blacekazam (Blacephalon) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Tera Type: Fire
Fusion: Alakazam
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

  • Mind Blown
  • Psyshock
  • Knock Off
  • Nasty Plot / Energy Ball / Encore / idk like taunt```
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wait i need hazard control

gusty burrow
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You have 2 hazard immunities and magic bounce tbf

desert crypt
serene monolith
desert crypt
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I believe so

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They usually have a live chat, as well

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so you can message the opponent mid battle

quiet salmon
molten juniper
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Glad to see ur still the goat

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One day I’ll make my turn!

quiet salmon
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True...

upbeat jay
quiet salmon
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decent start with the firt four mons id probably put like two physdef pivots last though

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something like gliscor golisopod and registeel moltres

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cause otherwise you get rolled by swords dance users

upbeat jay
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tysm for helping!!

quiet salmon
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np

latent vault
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I need suggestions

loud glade
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Hey man sorry this is strictly for Infinite Fusion competitive not general competitive Pokemon games

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It seems good though but I don't follow Natdex meta

plucky juniper
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Mugrigus (Muk) @ Leftovers
Ability: Mummy
Fusion: Cofagrigus
Alt: b
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Spirit Shackle
  • Poison Jab
  • Curse
  • Recover

Carbkrow (Carbink) @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Fusion: Murkrow
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SpD
Serious Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Oblivion Wing
  • Foul Play
  • Light Screen
  • Reflect

Zapeon (Zapdos) @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
Fusion: Jolteon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Thunderbolt
  • Hyper Voice
  • Hidden Power [Ice]
  • Electrify

Mimimega (Mimikyu) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Disguise
Fusion: Yanmega
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Air Slash
  • Shadow Ball
  • Draining Kiss
  • Quiver Dance

Genuine Slop (Shuckle) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
Fusion: Kommo-o
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature

  • Draco Meteor
  • Close Combat
  • Dragon Tail
  • Protect

Kleftu (Klefki) @ Iron Ball
Ability: Prankster
Fusion: Xatu
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Draining Kiss
  • Flash Cannon
  • Air Slash
  • Trick

True Slop

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I challenged myself to make the strangest team using nothing OU and above

median lava
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disguise is banned

plucky juniper
vapid sky
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is this for the normal showdown or the infinite fusion version of showdown

patent hatch
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Infinite fusion showdown

vapid sky
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ah ok

wise meadow
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Has anyone got an example of a sun team?

normal plank
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drought is banned

wise meadow
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Simple is legal in OU??😭

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with evasion boosting moves legal too

patent hatch
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And Simple is legal because the most that have it suck so much that it makes the fusion just worse even with simple doubling boosts

wise meadow
patent hatch
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They’re no where unkillable

wise meadow
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you get it

patent hatch
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And there’s way better “unkillable” stuff anyways

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I don’t because their stats are so nerfed much for fusing with a simple mon that they die easily

wise meadow
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I mean, old reliable chansey

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bibarel/drifblim gets defend order with 126 hp

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not defend order

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the other one that boost both defensive stats

normal plank
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all bibarel fusions are potential mons

minor finch
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any reccomendetions or tips?

patent hatch
patent hatch
quiet salmon
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only def boosting is easy to stall out too using status

scarlet lantern
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how do i copy my team to share it here?

quiet salmon
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click the "upload to pokepaste" button and then paste the link

scarlet lantern
# quiet salmon click the "upload to pokepaste" button and then paste the link

like that?

Berserker (Aegislash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Fusion: Cacturne
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 152 Spe
Bashful Nature

  • King's Shield
  • Aerial Ace
  • Swords Dance
  • Leech Seed

God's Corpse (Arceus) @ Metronome
Ability: Wonder Guard
Fusion: Shedinja
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Gentle Nature

  • Spirit Shackle
  • Hyperspace Fury
  • Earthquake
  • Stone Edge

Fluffy (Togekiss) @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
Fusion: Dragonite
Alt: c
EVs: 120 HP / 152 Def / 160 SpD / 76 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Draining Kiss
  • Nasty Plot
  • Toxic
  • Soft-Boiled

Nightmare (Blissey) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bad Dreams
Fusion: Darkrai
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Soft-Boiled
  • Dream Eater
  • Hypnosis
  • Nightmare

Destiny (Reshiram) @ Shell Bell
Ability: Turboblaze
Fusion: Gardevoir
EVs: 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

  • Tail Glow
  • Thunderbolt
  • Blue Flare
  • Draining Kiss

Faith (Bisharp) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Defiant
Fusion: Deoxys
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Drain Punch
  • Fire Punch
  • Ice Punch
  • Toxic
snow pike
scarlet lantern
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got any other advice?

rare lantern
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What EVs would be good for a sand setter tyranitar/Kommo-o?

west vector
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And the other 4 on attack for an EQ

rare lantern
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Ok. And does showdown use the same rules on weather for fusion formats as IF does?

normal plank
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sand stream is banned in ou

eternal basalt
rare lantern
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Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Overcoat
Fusion: Kommo-o
EVs: 4 Atm / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature

  • Sandstorm
  • Stone Edge
  • Drain Punch
  • Stealth Rock
eternal basalt
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manual weather can be very fun to run, though I'd recommend running the weather setting move on a bulky pivot instead, so that you can then have a super awesome sand abuser and switch into it

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e.g. the most popular manual sun team had sunny day toxapex + umbreon

rare lantern
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Hmm... first bulky sand immune mon that comes to mind would be Metagross

eternal basalt
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there is a sand abuser that I personally love and would adore seeing people use

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(sandslash gets thousand arrows as an expert move)

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it's so fun to use

rare lantern
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I see we both thought of different ground types for our main sweepers

gusty burrow
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I would recommend having recovery (or prankster/very high speed for offensive ) on your sand setter, its gonna get chipped very easily for setting up manual sand

fleet oasis
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I keep seeing messages here but I'm unable to actually read them.

normal ivy
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Do you guys have a tier list or top Team list or something or know where i can See current Meta Teams?

eternal basalt
patent hatch
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Hyper Offense

Priority Spam by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/03433df248bdb693

Offense

Dual Screens by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/d0c5f09d2f3317f0

Sticky Web by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/8f6a8d614f15e1f0

Clefode Mamoreloom by Aevilok
https://pokepast.es/187fdfc301d1699f

Bulky Offense

Triple Choice by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/8705cd39140c9c53

Kyutei Drifbancie by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/2cf0ce287e873a02

Kyugrigus Cheninphox by LTitan9
https://pokepast.es/acb7826b35cc8c00

Balance

Flyetta Jimagius Superman by Aevilok
https://pokepast.es/9e092e9e7b5e61da

Enetta Genking by Boshigoat
https://pokepast.es/83bf36a855aebb66

Jirona Cheninphox by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/9de4fc5f19ad4e2f

Semistall

Sandetta Jitei by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/93ac74c1574c0e14

Stall

Triple Regen Stall by anaconja
https://pokepast.es/48ab5e891471e00d

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I can just send them here too

wise meadow
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Triple Regen stall is just evil😭

quiet salmon