#showdown-teambuilding
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the raichu is too slow to do plot shenanigans
He kinda buff tho
I don't wanna get one shot by a rock 😭
I suppose 
luretta is just better than that primape
also you might wanna get a defogger or spinner because your whole team hates rocks
This is my team in the game too that's why I'm running it lol
Yeah was also noticing that
What about Articuno?
is this supposed to be an ubers team
I guess lol
it's too slow to get veil off most of the time
at least run speed evs
That's why Its bulky is it that likely to get one shot?
I guess if it was ice type it'd be better off
Yeah I've never played the fusion showdown so I'm not educated in the metas
You didn't say anything about Charizard tho
it's fine ig
So only 2 decent mons on my team?
i guess
Preciate it
How can I improve my team
This is for showdown only. Go to #playthrough-talk instead
should I run a registeel moltres physdef or spedef
physdef for sure, switch it in for that flame fishing
Thoughts on these two as a hyper offense lead in doubles OU? Ditish hits 550 speed with quick powder and Krookoen hits 549 with scarf
I'm too dumb to figure it out, what don't I know
dont vaguepost about teambuilding lol
gimmick seems too easily disrupted by follow me, id rather have a regular bruxish paired with something like speed boost sd
Didn't realise follow me redirected moves against your own teammate, lesson learned lol
The other way I can get an anger point off is chansey fused with absol/togekiss with lucky glove and super luck, and using extreme speed or feint. But they need to be faster than a follow me opponent because all those moves are +2 priority, and I lose dazzling. It's a tough one and obvs super gimmicky
yeah that doesnt sound very viable
Delphfable (Delphox) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Fusion: Clefable
Timid Nature
- Flamethrower
- Moonblast
- Psyshock
- Calm Mind
Excados (Excadrill) @ Leftovers
Ability: Mold Breaker
Fusion: Gyarados
Adamant Nature
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
Glislax (Gliscor) @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Poison Heal
Fusion: Snorlax
Adamant Nature
- Protect
- Facade
- Earthquake
- Substitute
Rotrodon (Rotom) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Fusion: Gastrodon
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Volt Switch
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split
Garia (Garchomp) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Cloud Nine
Fusion: Altaria
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- U-turn
- Stone Edge
Binja (Bisharp) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Wonder Guard
Fusion: Shedinja
- Swords Dance
- Shadow Sneak
- Will-O-Wisp
- Protect
Any tips on better fleshing out my team?
is this natdex ubers
ubers bans wg
ndag basically requires the stats of legends mons bc otherwise you do no damage and take too much damage
What is ndag?
Oh, Natdex
What changes would you recommend for the team?
theres a lot to change to be viable into the meta but uhhhhhh
ig starting with binja shedinjas usually want to have access to endeavor bc you instantly set the opp to 1 hp
personally i use mabosstiff bc it also has pain split in case of spiky shield/rocky helmet but you can also go houndoom/honchrkow since they have a sprite
Ability: Wonder Guard
Tera Type: Poison
Fusion: Shedinja
EVs: 252 Atk
Brave Nature
IVs: 0 Def / 0 SpD / 0 Spe
- Endeavor
- Shadow Sneak
- Spirit Shackle
- Will-O-Wisp```
something like this
tera poison to be immune to toxic/fairy moves
next id change gliscor snorlax to gliscor regigigas bc it has way more stats
Ability: Poison Heal
Tera Type: Normal
Fusion: Regigigas
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Facade
- Earthquake
- Toxic / Knock Off
- Spikes```
good spiker to beat sheds, toxic hits them besides bug steel while knock can remove hdb from other mons
i like the idea with drill but it needs stats so im thinking something like this ```Zekceus (Zekrom) @ Pixie Plate
Ability: Teravolt
Tera Type: Water
Fusion: Arceus-Fairy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Judgment
- Will-O-Wisp
- Stealth Rock
- Recover```
to bypass bouncers and hit shed with also
rotom just doesnt have the stats to do stuff and with the zekrom we have a wisp user so blissey hatterene is a good pick to support shed by bouncing hazards and status ```Blisrene (Blissey) (F) @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Magic Bounce
Tera Type: Steel
Fusion: Hatterene
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe
- Alluring Voice
- Wish
- Soft-Boiled
- Teleport```
garia similarly doesnt do enough dmg so a good revenge killer is chansey ditto since it can transform into the opp but with 182 max hp and +1 from eviolite ```Chanto (Chansey) @ Eviolite
Ability: Imposter
Tera Type: Steel
Fusion: Ditto
Alt: a
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
IVs: 1 Atk
- Transform
- Teleport
- Seismic Toss
- Soft-Boiled```
finally a better mg user in blacephalon alakazam since it gets access to recoil free midn blown ```Blacekazam (Blacephalon) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
Tera Type: Fire
Fusion: Alakazam
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Mind Blown
- Psyshock
- Knock Off
- Nasty Plot / Energy Ball / Encore / idk like taunt```
wait i need hazard control
You have 2 hazard immunities and magic bounce tbf
Would mabosstiff be a better option? Spriting isn't really an issue, I just made one for Delfable, because I didn't like it's original sprite
A question,Can u battle other players in real time in showdown
I believe so
They usually have a live chat, as well
so you can message the opponent mid battle
very slightly if you run pain split
True...
any ways to upgrade my team?
https://pokepast.es/a99741adbb95d770
decent start with the firt four mons id probably put like two physdef pivots last though
something like gliscor golisopod and registeel moltres
cause otherwise you get rolled by swords dance users
tysm for helping!!
np
I need suggestions
Hey man sorry this is strictly for Infinite Fusion competitive not general competitive Pokemon games
It seems good though but I don't follow Natdex meta
Mugrigus (Muk) @ Leftovers
Ability: Mummy
Fusion: Cofagrigus
Alt: b
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Poison Jab
- Curse
- Recover
Carbkrow (Carbink) @ Eviolite
Ability: Prankster
Fusion: Murkrow
EVs: 252 Def / 252 SpD
Serious Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Oblivion Wing
- Foul Play
- Light Screen
- Reflect
Zapeon (Zapdos) @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
Fusion: Jolteon
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Hyper Voice
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Electrify
Mimimega (Mimikyu) @ Focus Sash
Ability: Disguise
Fusion: Yanmega
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Air Slash
- Shadow Ball
- Draining Kiss
- Quiver Dance
Genuine Slop (Shuckle) @ Leftovers
Ability: Contrary
Fusion: Kommo-o
EVs: 252 Def / 4 SpA / 252 SpD
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Close Combat
- Dragon Tail
- Protect
Kleftu (Klefki) @ Iron Ball
Ability: Prankster
Fusion: Xatu
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpA
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draining Kiss
- Flash Cannon
- Air Slash
- Trick
True Slop
I challenged myself to make the strangest team using nothing OU and above
disguise is banned
It’s an ubers team I made to mess with a friend
is this for the normal showdown or the infinite fusion version of showdown
Infinite fusion showdown
ah ok
Has anyone got an example of a sun team?
drought is banned
Evasion boosting moves aren’t legal lol
And Simple is legal because the most that have it suck so much that it makes the fusion just worse even with simple doubling boosts
there's rly high HP ones that you can just make unkillable
They’re no where unkillable
you get it
And there’s way better “unkillable” stuff anyways
I don’t because their stats are so nerfed much for fusing with a simple mon that they die easily
I mean, old reliable chansey
bibarel/drifblim gets defend order with 126 hp
not defend order
the other one that boost both defensive stats
all bibarel fusions are potential mons
any reccomendetions or tips?
Chansey is banned in OU
#playthrough-talk , this is for showdown only
p sure neither get cosmic power
only def boosting is easy to stall out too using status
how do i copy my team to share it here?
click the "upload to pokepaste" button and then paste the link
like that?
Berserker (Aegislash) @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
Fusion: Cacturne
EVs: 104 HP / 252 Def / 152 Spe
Bashful Nature
- King's Shield
- Aerial Ace
- Swords Dance
- Leech Seed
God's Corpse (Arceus) @ Metronome
Ability: Wonder Guard
Fusion: Shedinja
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Gentle Nature
- Spirit Shackle
- Hyperspace Fury
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
Fluffy (Togekiss) @ Leftovers
Ability: Multiscale
Fusion: Dragonite
Alt: c
EVs: 120 HP / 152 Def / 160 SpD / 76 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draining Kiss
- Nasty Plot
- Toxic
- Soft-Boiled
Nightmare (Blissey) @ Leftovers
Ability: Bad Dreams
Fusion: Darkrai
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpA / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Soft-Boiled
- Dream Eater
- Hypnosis
- Nightmare
Destiny (Reshiram) @ Shell Bell
Ability: Turboblaze
Fusion: Gardevoir
EVs: 132 HP / 252 SpA / 124 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tail Glow
- Thunderbolt
- Blue Flare
- Draining Kiss
Faith (Bisharp) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Defiant
Fusion: Deoxys
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Drain Punch
- Fire Punch
- Ice Punch
- Toxic
serene grace doesnt do anything for the moves you have ontogenite
oh you're right-
got any other advice?
What EVs would be good for a sand setter tyranitar/Kommo-o?
Prob SpD and HP
And the other 4 on attack for an EQ
Ok. And does showdown use the same rules on weather for fusion formats as IF does?
sand stream is banned in ou
for IF Dex Ubers/AG yes, for NatDex no
Oh. Damn. Guess tyranmo-o is getting stone edge, drain punch, sandstorm, a smooth stone, and one of Kommo-o's abilities
Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Overcoat
Fusion: Kommo-o
EVs: 4 Atm / 252 Def / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Sandstorm
- Stone Edge
- Drain Punch
- Stealth Rock
manual weather can be very fun to run, though I'd recommend running the weather setting move on a bulky pivot instead, so that you can then have a super awesome sand abuser and switch into it
e.g. the most popular manual sun team had sunny day toxapex + umbreon
Hmm... first bulky sand immune mon that comes to mind would be Metagross
there is a sand abuser that I personally love and would adore seeing people use
(sandslash gets thousand arrows as an expert move)
it's so fun to use
I see we both thought of different ground types for our main sweepers
I would recommend having recovery (or prankster/very high speed for offensive ) on your sand setter, its gonna get chipped very easily for setting up manual sand
I keep seeing messages here but I'm unable to actually read them.
Do you guys have a tier list or top Team list or something or know where i can See current Meta Teams?
Sure thing! You can use this as a starting point:
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/9rdl2-F9vmW7
And if you don't mind joining the pokeathlon discord, we have a list of sample teams that we keep updated: https://discord.com/channels/1070125689107382403/1380252170385096834
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