#pif-hoenn-discussion
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new game
Cool
Do you have any information on when this game is theoretically supposed to be released? And thank you to the entire Infinite Fusion team, I've never had so much fun playing a Pokémon game! I'd always dreamed of having a system a bit like Dragon Quest Monster Fusion in a Pokémon game, and even though it's different, I find the same enjoyment but with a Pokémon touch 🔥
2028
2028 with good behavior
its safe to assume since they have said they're going to slow down development after the demo releases
and its been a year of dev time to get everything they have till now to get to slateport
Guys help
Then wait
its only been 5 minutes?
Do not start double posting in other channels
Guys will ... be in the game?
will the hoenn game have my pokemon from kanto and johto?
wdyum
it means check the pins
.kk
where?
in this channel
red button
Eventually, years from now, we will have to stop pinning.
-# until the next pif region comes out
tbf, that won't likely happen until PIF Hoenn hits the same issue that PIF has
which is the map count gets too close to the RPG Maker limit
now I know hoenn has a lot of maps, but i don't think it has around 849
and that is assuming frog still wants to keep doing more at that point
could always do non-IF
nope that was an april fool joke
No idea, it's possible the Trumpet has distracted them enough, or it's possible it was just a bunch of monkey business
It’s monkey business if they do get added 
If it was Gen 8 fusions then it would be more understandable as a joke
But the monkis have the viability to be added with the engine
I'd say it's still like 50/50 it being a joke or real atm
Only way to know for sure is if frog and paya confirm either way
I say if it was real they would have given us numbers
Like its almost a day
yeah, but they haven't debunked it yet either and it's been almost a day
We are in a state of both getting and not getting the monkes until the devs step in 
I do agree though, I think they would of made an announcement already
"PAYA! Give us the monkey numbers and our lives are yours!"
Im used to hearing monke slander, its nice to see my boi simisear getting some deserved adoration
Schrodingers Monke
632, 633, 634, 635, 636, 637 
Thanks erihppas
I knew they were getting added
It has to be from the words of the Frog or Paya overlords
I’m just Payas extension 
You’re neither a fruit or a frog therefore we will ignore this statement
I wonder which starters are gonna get added
new starters?
Yeah
Monkeys obviously 
I honestly love the monkey trio from the games
Pansage the most
Changing your name to fruit doesn’t count
though i'm pretty sure Torchic, Treecko and Mudkip are gonna be in PIF Hoenn
i could be wrong, since i no nothing about the game's development or whatever
i ain't a beta tester
Kinda sad Orre is a troll when it was a brilliant idea
They’ve been shown already 
They should do it like the newer games where it’s like torchic squirtle then grookey
No gen 8 
That was a leak and the person who showed them was banned (it was chardub they got banned)
Gen 8 was amazing
So what you’re saying is, we’re getting 60 new Pokémon in addition to the monkeys 
Idk she is a bit fruity anyways

two of those are the starters i chose for those specific regions
sorry squirtle, i choose charmander for kanto
I like charmander but he’s gotten overrated
Like I’ve used him so much
If I could choose the starters I’d go hmm…..
oshawatt for the water starter
Litten for fire
Hmmmm…..
The grass is a hard choice
I’d have to choose bulbsaur
Cause my favorite grass starters are grookey and sprigatto
Normally for April fools prank after making people believe you say happy April fools, here we haven’t gotten that yet meaning it’s still possible
April fools!
We are the monkeys!
-# jk, it's April 2nd
we're all humans after all
Speak for yourself puny earthling
so you're a robot?
oh wait we are blue again , yippee
No mokeys?
No monke
rip
man, the monkeys would have been soo cool though
No orre monkees jumping on the bed
What if we just act like the monkeys got added and make fusions 
Maybe in the future, frog does love to troll
for now though, we're adding the rest of the hoenn pokedex, so it'll be a while before we add new pokemon
I mean the Monkeys are hoenn mons fr fr
so can you confirm this was an april fool , I'm too dumb to understand if it isn't one or not
Orre and Monkeys were April fools
Trumpets not
than put it under non-if in spritework and when the day comes, you can post them to the gallery yourself or they'll be harvested
you can post them as an alt to a pif fusion, but I would very much not like that. It would be a pain in the ass later
Called it
What we should make them infernape, ambipom etc alts so you got more work for this april fools prank?
trumpets kinda were then we had an idea
oh but it was so cool , why did you have to make the best concept for the day of foolery
yes, orre and the monkeys were april fools. Trumpets were, but we and so many people genuinely loved it. We're last minute adding it to the game. That'll need more bug testing since we're having it be acquired in a cool way, but we love a good laugh
guys this is a subtle text for tellign us that if we want orre and the elemental monkeys we need to shout it louder 
Pokemon Infinte Trumpet confirmed
I heard not adding monke is a april second joke 🥲
I got told to shut up shouting for Gogoat so this doesnt work
it was a joke 
This is a genuine question , I thought that pory soundstrack was already adding more trumpets? So is a 200% trumpet version
My Simipour-loving heart
realized that it might be rude to pory , if thats the case I apologize it wasn't my intend
the trumpet soundtrack slaps
Kinda feeling upset about no Simipour but I'll try to get over it
Yeah I would have loved the Monkes, they deserve spotlight
RIP simispark
Yep! Pory personally remixed the entire soundtrack to sound amazing, this trumpet version is literally all instruments being replaced by trumpets. The video soundtrack is not the actual game soundtrack
oh ok
trumpet is very cool
so that means that the kalos soundtrack is in the base pifh game
Kalos soundtrack?
wait was it removed
found the old message
coumarien city was mentionned in the soundtrack
Someone mentioned there was a kalos song but not the whole soundtrack
which is a kalos place
it was me lol
I missexplaiend it , I forgot the name for song for a hot minute
is was coumarine_X_Y or something like that
We do have some extra tracks, but as of right now all maps are hoenn only
oh ok
Guys i know what we need , we need a version of the soudntrack where all the instruments are replaced with air horns
I think it truly will be pleasign to people ears

Wait this is so hype, I didnt even realize we were getting hoenn
Since I haven't followed much of anything around it and am just finding out about it now, lol, which gens are we going to see?
the same as PIF 1
Asked in hoenn chat
Apologies I haven't played much of 1 due to software issues, what gen we go up to in 1?
7
Oh wait, now I think I get it I thought yhis was a troll
All the mons I care about then
I apologize
and unless the devs want to take a 10 year no update break, we can't get anything above that
Ty!
i mean... if you have troubles running PIF 1, you're gonna have an even harder time running Pif Hoenn
just so you know
I did the calculation a while back but if we get 30 mons per year we can keep it up for 8 years
I feel like it should be clarified we have SOME pokemon up to gen 7
Not all pokemon are in the games, we have all of 1-2, the rest are all scattered. We do not go beyond gen 7
Hoenn adds the rest of the gen 3 pokedex we didn't have before.
Some pokemon are exclusive per game, but you can "trade" in between them. For more information, read the faq in the pins
^
It doesn't hurt to clarify further for other people. And I'm cat sitting currently, the internet here sucks and the replies just loaded in for me
That was awhile ago. I just forgot about it until recently when I got my Ayn Thor
Cat mentioned, precious beans
3 of them, and allergic
my own baby boy doesn't bother me, but these are longer haired
Mine was bugging too, didnt see like any of the other replies when I was asking

its ok, this family member does a lot for me so I dont mind. And then he actually paid me when he didn't need to
I could use some money right now so I'm grateful
Thats so awesome of them, you work so hard I imagine thats a bit of relief
ok this one got me 
I know its not gonna happen but a team sky reference would be funny
Outfits are made by the community so who knows, someone could make one (Though if they do I would highly suggest running it by MandJTV first lol)
Just in case
I did not mean an outfit lol
Great excuse for a mono flying run
Absolutely
Also he has played Infinite Fusion before
Have I done Monoflying...
Twice. Once as TEAM SKY and once as Dr Fuse :3
Gotta have a flying fusion of mightyena
Oh yeah
He would probably be cool with it
Back when he played it the birds couldn't pass on their flying type in fusions which made it funnier
Still, Team Sky constantly uses the demon lizard, so I’d rather they stay out of the game
I know he would be it just wouldn't feel right not running it by him before hand
Lol
Id ve surprised if he doesnt get hyped over PIFH and play it honestly
im pretty sure that against the rules not reference from outside pokemon, tho we might scurry it by calling it rayquaza jacket
I more so meant like, a bird keeper that just shouts "GO TEAM SKY!" or something but yeah that would be very suspect
bird keeper mikey
the last time the devs gave an estimate, they undershot it by a year 
so they no longer give dates
just the eternal. "When its ready it will be out"
will say though, the demo is for sure this year at minimum 
and full game is definitely not this year
Hear me put Jessie and James hair style in the game then you have to help an “old couple” find their lost meowth and when you find it and return him they give you Jessie and James rocket outfit then they run off
where
Goldenrod rocket hideout
I hope you win the lottery
But idk about pifh, I wonder how ibtaining pif1 stuff for it is gonna work
I just hope there will be more clothes options that are similar to the roserade suit
The game hasn't even been in development for a year lol
I dont think they meant specifically for pifh
But it's the demo that I really want to play.

Jessie's hair is in the game
Idk where you get it but I've seen it in the files
It's there I just dunno where in game
Oh
Nvm
RIP
Or so you thought 
If you really think about it, hoenn has been in development for 10 years since the code is shared 
even if not it has been a year since the anouncement so it has been atleast a year in development
Not really, we announced it really early 
truuuuue
i meant one of the pokemon updates 
but also figure of speech since it was promised last year (the date changed from 23-24 
Ive been watching the progress quietly and im getting more excited each update. can't wait to see what the demo has in store on release you guys make some 🔥 games
How the coding going and art?
I mean sprites are being made at a reasonable speed [I think]
coding is...spaghetti I assume, as per usual
Cant wait to play this 💯✨️😁
-# you'll have to wait 
Still spaghetti, just a little less tangled. I'd say the sauce is really good this time, than a basic marinara. Maybe it's a creamy vodka sauce this time, or a really good lemon parmesan cream sauce 
Coding is going great
Need a touch more garlic
The "what should you do?" At the bottom really ties this together
Going great, except we can't stop ourselves from adding new things and making adjustments 
Just don't eat it.
Might crash the game. 
Wheres the garlic bread?
You’re making me hungry
I heard Spaghetti
Who awoken the spaghetti...
Every time someone says spaghetti from now on I have a Vietnam flashback of the newest episode of invincible
||The ending||
Me when I'm playing Infinite Fusions instead of doing my job 
You are doing your job.
You're making sure it works!
-# even if it is the wrong game
Oh no,,, the horrors,,,
||Bro got spaghetti'd||
There’s the culprit that scared the monkies away!
Also jumpscared by mod applications again 
there is no sorry in ba sing se...only pins
when it dropin
Chat, pin this man ☝️
Uhh read the pinned messages
thank
it's a surprise
Also pin emojis are this places punishment for that question 😂
Because of frequency
Forward 
thanks i liked getting pinned i felt special
please put uhhh sandyghast in the game that guy is pretty cool
Already is in of so most likely will
wee
Sandygast are in sand castles and take offense to you kicking the sand castle
sandygast live in my chanclas
Is there a time frame your hoping to have it done by which i know probably won't happen if you keep adding things XD
Since frog said it I can't play with you guys any more and say 1-3 months 
But we're aiming for April 
"April" could mean 2026, 2027, or even 2035, the non-testers have no way of knowing unless they're told

Yo this month???
Aiming for this month, we're still adding some things last minute and fixing bugs. And there's something else we want to do outside of the actual game
I’m expecting one, so that way it’s just an amazing surprise if it does come out this month
Don't forget it is also the demo. We ain't getting the whole thing anytime soon XD
Thee release date was always tentative, we're excited to release it, but we never put a hard date to prevent being rushed. We want to make sure it's actually ready. That being said we're expecting bugs after release, but porygons work hard to find as much as possible
Omg yes, this is not the full game by any means
it's the demo only, we have not started development past this point outside of some things in the files, such as music
~~And Orre clearly
~~
Will frog release secret bugfixes for PIF1 when he releases the demo XD
Nah, he's consumed by hoenn and would need a rest period before doing pif1 bug fixes
Valid
there are some things that I personally plan to fix, but nothing you guys would be excited for that would change a lot in the grand scheme of things
Anything that makes tech support life mildly easier gets me hyped 
Damn, I guess Lance’s Hitmonlee fusion in the rematch tiers will forever be misspelled as Himtonlee 
Yeah sorry, I'm not qualified for any of that
maybe one day
but the revamp I gave npcs I will be doing for pif 1, like making sure everyone is aligned with the player, and stuff like that
Wait, is it a nickname or the fusion name? I may be able to fix it if it were a nickname
No, he misspelled it in the files so it becomes Pikachu instead
Since that’s the default when game doesn’t recognize Pokemon
Fun fact, I help out with pif 1, but I haven't played it, so you're more knowledgable than I am on a lot. I've been making my way through it though. It's been over a year and I'm in lavender town 
Nah, the next game’s going to be infinite fusion Lental. Trust 
yeah, the player fell out of love with battling and wants to document the behavioral patterns of wild fusion. they become a photographer
Infinite Ultra Fusion
Isn't that a canonical character in Gen 9 
If you get started on the game now, you might be done with it by the heat death of the universe 
Have a whole fucking photoshoot to take pictures of the fucking bear
Don’t worry I haven’t actually played in a super long time as well 
Only hop on now for when showdown has any questions and needs testing on PIF mechanics since it’s a mix between gen 5 and gen 7 stuff.
Pokemon Infinite Pinball Fusion
oh wait, is that not the region of pokemon snap 2? 
Lental is from New Pokémon Snap yes
I constantly forget that game exists
PIF Hoenn should include every region but only have exactly 1 tile for them 
Perrin?
Yeah her lmao
Pretty sure Perrin's thing was that she was a child prodigy in the photography world, but when the player character meets her in The Teal Mask she's lost her inspiration and wants to photograph Bloodmoon Ursaluna to get her inspiration back.
She's strongly implied to be a direct descendant of Adaman from Legends Arceus.
It's even all but stated directly in Pokemon Masters during her intro event with Arezu & Mai.
Poor verdant bob has to wait longer 
for some reason my brain thought of a guy named bob that was green before the hairstyle
Sand attack should be changed to pocket sand
I change my mind get rid of that fucking move
Just for that, it now lowers 2 stages of accuracy
And every trainer has it
I will drop all your soda cans just hard enough to where they get fucked up and hard to drink out of
It alongside Minimize
Without the niche body slam/stomp interaction
keen eye apparently just negates your evasion stat
so if yu minimized 6 times, if you have keen eye you can just hit them
2 stage decrease isn't enough.
4 stage decrease!
Why not go all out with 6 at that point
+7 
if you get to +6 evasion and have sand veil active, what happens?
More evasion. Sand Veil isn’t a stat boost, it’s just another multiplier
That 10% will always be 10%
And yet the enemy will hit you with that level of evasion
i mean there are moves that never miss, and ways to work around stupid evasion nonsense
How's pifh gonna work? Just wondering if it's gonna be a whole different region/map with the same mons, or exclusive mons?
Better be a Team Sky reference cuz well, Hoenn
Maybe in a Team Sky uniform and hat?
I actually got here cus mandj video lmao
Real
Do we have any potential release window?
I am completely clueless about what the game is outside of a sequel and there's hoenn
FAQ Explains it all
This is super fake right or is this real and I'm just dumb
Super SUPER fake
Yep figured
They posted that site about half a year ago so we do know of it
All right just checking it seemed weird for there to be an official site for it when regular pif doesn't have one
isn't hoenn still in development
i sure hope they still have the magic boots tho they probably be harder to get
Yeah. The people who manage the malware files for the base game put up a Hoenn version not even a month after it was announced
i really hope the gen 5 starters are added in hoenn bc i really wanna see an emboar fused with every legendary
At launch? No. At some point in the future? Maybe
Everything being added with Hoenn's launch is already on the calcs site
tho for launch i kinda hope we have all the current mon in this game are there
i mean all the gen 3 mon in this game will be there bc they originate from hoenn
easier
wdym easier
I mean less pokemon to catch
the dex addition won't increase the requirements for PIF
and likewise, because not all mons in PIF will be in the sequel, the boots will be far easier to get in that
That assumes that debug is going to be in the demo
well not the demo
because not all the mons will be accessible
Don't mind me.
Just adding more pokemon to make it harder.
neither will randomizer
dude wouldn't it make sense for the mon in this game will be in pif hoenn
but once the game is fully out, the entire gen 3 dex, plus some choice picks from pif will be in that game
i plan on sticking to base pif until hoenn is fully released
and out of demo and beta testing
I added 9999999 more pokemon.
Have fun getting debug!
-# jk
i wonder what the newest generation games will be for the main line series
beside the announced winds and waves?
who knows
You added more Pokémon than there are ones in existence. Impressive
yeah
by the time pokemon is funished adding new generations Pif will have a bunch of region specific games
sooner than that
gen 8+ is off the table for the forseeable future
Nah, Frog’s going to pass PIF on to his next of kin. Trust
galar did that
i am hoping pokemon doesn't add any more generations i lost count of how many mon there were after sinnoh
they already said they plan to add more pokemon
how do we tell them
like 10,000 more
no thoughts only doge
nintendo needs to slow down after this new one and make sure the fire doesn't get the fighting dual type at final evo
Hopefully a fire/fairy doge. Eventually
there are too many starters with fire/fighting in them
oop had it wrong
up to 10,000 mons
Not in my lifetime
depends on how fast they churn out games
gen 10 is the longest they've gone between mainline titles
but if they keep their usual 3-4 year time line
if pokemon stops at 10k it will be impossible to collect all the cards without spending thousande maybe millions just to get the older generation cards
They’d have to release a new generation practically every year
isn't pokemon champions a fan game as well or no
granted also depends on how many new mons they churn out as well
official pokemon game for switch 2/mobile
basically their answer to stuff like showdown
You say as it it already doesn't work like that
dude people thought paldea was the final generation so what region is winds and waves gonna be in
going off the visuals we saw during the teaser trailer, people are figuring some kind of island nation like the phillipenes
nintendo should have ended with paldea bc its already confusing enough with all the paradox mon
nah, they gotta continue until they reach the future paradox timeline
i really nintendo also releases a pc pokemon game so we don't have to use emulators
aren't the paradox mon created due to distortions of time in paldea
🤷♂️
There is no way to make paradox pokemon make sense
their exestince itself is paradoxical
Your missing the point, pokemon is the highest earning media franchise in the world. They arent gonns stop until it stops making bank
they are making more money from the switch 2 now than they are from pokemon bc people are getting tired of the constant additions
Okay, the switch 2 is a console
Not a media franchise
They have to sell games for the console
if I have a 60 dollar game that requires you to buy a 400 dollar console to play
One of those is inherently going to make more money
u mean the keys to access the games
that is irrelevant to my point
And even if they were to make more money off a different franchise, they still would be making tons from pokemon
This isn't kingdom hearts, the games don't really connect so honestly the "They should have stopped because that shit was too confusing" doesn't apply to pokemon games because aside from a few sequels, they're entirely disconnected with no evidence to show any of them being connected
XD
Paradox mons make about as much sense if not MORE sense than Gen 7's UBs
I've never understood why people are so upset about the paradox mons honestly
I thought it was a neat gimmick
I like to think the robot ones are from a dystopian future where pokemon went extinct so people had to build their own
Some of the Paradoxes have neat designs for sure, but a lot of them felt undercooked.
Some of the Future Paradoxes did handle the "X but Robot" thing pretty well, such as Iron Moth, but a ton of them were just cases like Jugulis where there wasn't enough changed about them to justify their separate existence
Past has some lame ones too, like Scream Tail
Led to a pretty fun fanart trend though. Fanmade Paradox mons are some of my favorite fakemons
2028
Okay first off, Scream Tail is great
Thats the only point I wanted to say so idk why I said first off
if people ever thought Pokemon was going to stop releasing new generations, they might be delusional
until no one cares about pokemon anymore they're gonna release new generations.
since it is always marketed towards kids, there will always be interest
even if a good chunk of the people playing it are actually teenagers or adults
@spice sage people are asking bout making expectator gengar a feature 
oh the bug where the gengar from the intro stays?
I think that some of its charm comes from the fact that it's a glitch. It wouldn't be the same if it were intentional
true
It's so funny that it basically became a meme on the subreddit though 
live gengar reaction
I was thinking of doing a yt video pretending gengar is controlling the game as a let's play stream, but I haven't done it yet.
The idea is also why I'm adding a talking gengar to this list of talking pokemon giovanni has in my fantasy pokemon stuff
I will cry if you ever fix it
we already lost one best bug, we can't lose another

-# rainbow imported shinies being the other one
RIP our rainbow shinies
Seeing gengar posts makes me laugh so fucking much
we never intend to fix it, don't worry
you may not intend to fix it, but it may get fixed through the sheer power of code
So you wont fix it
Is there actually a beta for hoenn yet? I am blind when I look through announcements and cant find the announcement where frogzilla talked about it. But I remember it being mentioned at some point. Even if you just post the link to the announcement (since there hasn't been a pinned announcement in 2 years) I'd appreciate it.
Nevermind I was scrolling too far back, its only 4 announcements back
🙃
Lol
There is a version being bugtested by tech support and mods can too if they want
How i wish I was a mod now 😂
A lot of people do byt I think most people think itd be more fun than it would be
Bug testing and playing a demo are veeeeery different
Don't get me wrong, bug testing is fun just not to as many people
I enjoy bug testing unless im the one who has to fix the bugs
At least we should be safe from wingull hell.
Hopefully
we will never escape the gulls or miltank
Random idea Fusion moves should be added where if you make specific fusions they can learn a fusion move like if you fuse kyorge and groudon they can learn “Origin Blades”
That would be insanely unbalanced, chaotic, and just a real pain in the ass to implement.
I like it.
True cause then the move would have to be dual typed
Origin blades would probably act like flying press.
Both water and ground attack making fire types scared
If I had to guess, the unused Fusion Beam TM that's just floating around in the game data and pops up occasionally in randomizers may have had a similar concept to this, just more generalized
Sacred fire and aeroblast from ho-oh and lugia would probably be called sacred blast.
(Which I imagine would be a powerful beam that explodes whatever it hits)
Pov: your a rattata being used to test sacred blast
They'll eventually run out of region and have to pick ||Israel or Russia|| I'm joking guys
I'd love to see a region based on Russia personally
Dunno why you spoilered that and immedietely pointed out you were joking 
Dang why did you spoil it, I had never heard of Russia
Sorry I had to 
What kind of mons can we find in Russia
Good question
Russia is a great base for a region though
In GO, Sigilyph is exclusive to Egypt, and i always thought that was a neat little detail
It actually has a rich cultural history to take for one
It is?
That is kinda cool ngl
And even its own storied ancient history to pull from and a very varied and diverse mythology (Slavic mythology really but that doesn't stop the British region from having a Japanese tea pot inspired Pokemon)
Yeah id imagine the fact that at the end of the day, Nintendo (a Japanese company) has to greenlight it, is the reason we dont see some inspiration from certain countries.
Just until they run out of ideas 
All I'm saying is the current Russian tyrant notwithstanding there's a lot of cultural and historical base to pull on a Russian based game
Fr. We've gotten Spain. France. Varying parts of Japan. Two parts of America
Fuck what was galar
Great Britain
Right
Hell Isle of Armor is literally based on Isle of Man
I didn't know the dlc area had actual base
Kitakami from Gen 9 is based on Japan as we all know
And Blueberry Academy is in Unova
But very specifically its based on the Tohoku region as a whole
Do we have any Canadian inspired mons? 
Sawsbuck comes to mind since its every season
Maybe
I'm unsure tbh
Isn't the Cubchoo line based on Canadian polar bears
Ooh, I didn't know that
Manitoba polar bears too I'm pretty sure
I might be misremembering tho LMAO
To be fair it might just be a general polar bear rather than Canadian specifically
Does that mean we have a minecraft server or are we detected as a minecraft server ?
neither
are you sure ?
i'm never sure or positive
but we don't have a mc server, and i don't know why discord would think we are a minecraft server
Lets model all fusions and make a cobblemon addon
i believe discord automatically chooses that logo of a game based on what users share in the server
many people on the server play minecraft so discord puts it there
Then you just get a "Oops all Nacli" situation
ah yes , nacli is totally in pif 
It means that people in the server play minecraft often
Speaking of minecraft, someone asked in off topic hours ago if anyone wanted to play.
oh ok
I rather the game take longer till the team happy then release it like most triple A companies do
Porygon:
Porygon becomes rounded so it doesn't count :P
PIF Minecraft server when 
that is why frog is pushing out a demo first
And there is a good amount of unique content in this demo
granted...at least 50% of it is water...with trumpets
I want Mr Briney to wear a trumpet now
I wish the elemental monkies had more courage against the instruments of the percussion kind
But... but a trumpet is not percussion...
But if that's the case, is talking an instrument? 🤔
yes
Acapella
All instruments are percussion when you hit people with them
Sorry, but according to my high school technology textbook, that would be cyberbullying
only if you hit them with a DJ Mixer
And then people starts asking why was nacli was added but not x from gen 8 of gen 9
The April fool pranks made me realized how peak Orre could be in ouf and now I kinda want it to be real once the region is done
I don't think pif works fundamentally when you can't catch wild pokemon
I already struggled with having a balanced team in that game, you want me to use 4 more mons?
looks at the no catch challenge
No it works
XD
PIF has a ton of pokemon you don't need to throw a single pokeball for
I mean in the context of Orre
I will say, I hope we dont get sinnoh in pifh because then we could get a new game for sinnoh with a hisui postgame which could be really interesting
Where colloseum is
Although some of the more useless shadow Pokémon being able to evolve now kinda helps?
Hisui is technically both a prequel and G8
Since no G8 mons (Which does include new forms and pokemon introduced in PLA) will be added safe to say that won't be happening
See, I would really love to incorporate orre, but realistically how would it incorporate in the story of pif? We wouldn't have shadow pokemon, and wouldn't be stealing pokemon from trainers. We wouldnt have the same story, so it would only be a visit, and people would be disappointed
And if ya'll did do shadow mons, you'd have to make it unique to like the other
How many fangames have done shadow?
I just know Rejuv but I think there are others
We wouldnt need the regional forms, I think it could be an interesring dynamic though
Keep in mind its a big IF if we even have another region tied to hoenn, but if we did than it would be wayyyyyyyyyy in the future
Okay but what about Kleavor, Wyrdeer, Enamorus? All Hisui staples
I know frog wouldn't do shadow mons, we already have a gimmick and he would prefer for it to be the only one. Its kinda why we dont have megas
I genuinely forhot hisui was not just variants, I am not awake enough appearently lmao
Both Sinnoh and Hoenn are in Japan 
Alola being a mock Sevii Isles LOL
I donno if he would want to do a main region tbh
Valid
how do we even deal with fusing shadows
Like these things can't even learn tms how do we make fusing them with non-shadows work
Honestly all jokes or suggestions aside I really am content with just the Hoenn games
Johto is kinda an afterthought sadly, since its post game. While I want to give more love to it, it would suck if another region got the same treatment
Emerald is one of the best mainlines and I enjoyed the hell out of ORAS. 100% my favorite of the remakes
i mean there isn't much competition, but they are great
I think Johto is mostly fine? It's a bit too easy to breeze through it. I think all it needs is Olivine, Cianwood, and adjacent routes
Trueeee. FRLG were. Okay. ORAS Peak. BDSP we don't speak of
And PMD DX is.
...
It's got a weird off-putting art style
Is a pretty faithful remake to mystery dungeon red/blue rescue team lol
Yay another compromised account 
Yeah, I wanna be clear I am not complaining or anything just spouting ideas
I am more than content with just hoenn
Everyone knows the real best pokemon game is pokemon card gb2: the invasion of team gr
Lmao
Speaking of best pokemon game I need to finish Shadows of Almia playthrough now that I found a phone stylus
it's pif one all over again with shadow mon replaced by triple fusions. So that all the triples get story relevance. And we don't even need the snag machine. Just an : oopsie I conveiently dropped the pokeball containing the triple fusions after you defeated me
it's peak have fun
but in an case it's a far away addition
I dony think just casually giving the player all the triples will go well
we don't even have pifh demo yet
post game
Just do hoenn again but 90% more water. Surely that would be fun and exciting 
new region unlocked if you choosed team aqua path
Just add kanto back in cause no one ever gets tired of kanto
Shhhh, that's demo 2
you get on the cruise and the whole game is on the ship
Postgame is just the plot of Cast Away
isn't that just the plot of sv dlc part 2
So the demo is maybe this month are you guys excited ?
For some reason my go to for cruises in my fantasy pokemon stuff is it gets taken over by pirates.
So now I'm imagining that if this is actual demo 2.
We added more new things, we cant stop
you got more things to test coming up

like a few new quests
~~One of which is very silly
~~
I love silly quests

wonder if I will get any silly bugs doing it
You find a secret forest and as you walk through you hear howling and it gets foggier the more you travel inside then you come upon an old shrine with a rusted sword and shield and you interact with it and it’s aegislash lol
We should have a compilation of the silliest bugs we found once the demo's out
Pokémon bloopers lol
Yes
Frog started making a dev bloopers reel!
I honestly can’t wait till it’s out I’m already hyped for it
Can we just randomly cut off a area from Hoenn to trigger people
We cut off lilycove
completely erase the starting town
I mean in the demo it's going to cut off the world
that is totally not the trumpet quest 
I know one area that could definitely do that
battle frontier
Pacifalog town? Gone!
The elite 4?
Mirage island
Sent to the shadow realm lol
We keep those cuz its dumb
Volcano? Gone!
Man im still sad about Orre and Monkes
It would have been so peak and fitting
we remove the room in the truck you ride in at the start of the game
spear pillar? Gone? Enjoy the battle between groudon and kyogre
you are left behind when your mom moves
All great ideas 
Oops all Orre
and replace it with battle tower
Could you imagine playing kanto again?
Kanto 2 : Electric Boogalo
I've played PIF1 so much at this point it's muscle memory
Post apocalyptic kanto?
Switch 2 edition
Zombie Apocalypse Kanto and all the zombies are fusions
hypothetically would it even be realistically possible to have a second region with pif Hoenn?
Well
The correct way to do Shadow Pokemon 
Kanto and Johto are near each other, right?
Yes
but what region is close to Hoenn?
a maze where you get stuck encountering a bunch of pokemon
new funky mode
Instead of zubat swarming to battle you, it's trapinch
or a lost woods type area, everyone loves those
Idk the layout of Japan so idk what region is closest
maybe it’ll be Sinnoh
Imagine if you could import your trainer for a new, connected save in PIF2
I'm sure there is a boat that could take us to the further away region
we do have bannanas and slakoth tropius could also be hiding there
Oh wow
kitakali erasure smh 
Holy shit this image is garbage
So it really wouldn't make sense to put Sinnoh in there
so Orre , sicne there is no clear indication of where it is based. Could be closer to hoenn
Mr Briney takes you to Alola
Just to piss everyone off who wants Unova, Kalos or Sinnoh
where's aeos island
well hawaii is closer to japan then new york
honestly some anime locations probably would be better than a whole region that would get a bit ignored
Orre is based on Arizona, making it the first region to be based on an area outside of Japan.
Pokemon Wiki
Oooh thats neat
like a place for fossil related quests, maybe they brought a fossil back, fused it and it went rogue
oh nice
Time for orange islands 
I like how GF chooses states in America lol. WHERE IS MY TEXAS REGION
When’s Infinite fusions aloha coming out
And you gotta include the talking slowking and shitty antagonist from movie 2 
Zapdos screaming too
Zapdos Vs guzzlord scream contest
It's just angry bird screeching
Which reminds me, gotta get on the pokemon cires for next April fools, if we can remember
We got a lot of new additions
zapdos/guzzlord fusion vs guzzlord/guzzlord
No Kitakami either huh
PIF Sinnoh with a second region of Hisui and a time paradox
I remember left of Fiore to be Orre on many unofficial maps
I literally suggested that today
But no gen 8 so it wouldnt work
That little bit of Johto that goes into Shikoku makes me wonder if Gamefreak ever had plans to make a full region based on that that allowed you to go between it and Johto but decided against doing so
I fear for how loud exploud will be
Hear me out , trumpets version of music got added to the main game
What’s stopping us to add the silly cries too
It would be so funny
we replace its cry with that of the most feared of all creatures
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replace wingulls cry with tidus's laugh
Red dead redemption except red is a name 🤯
Hell yeah
<@&306953740651462656>
regular chatter 😔
Thank you
that's a funny way to spell gastly's test subject
I mean, we didn't have a choice 
XD
MFA is pretty easy
I use it for my work, I set up it here when I became Porygon here, I've got it for my company card, blizzard account, email.
Especially with fingerprint authentication its super lazy and easy to authenticate
Although most of those make me use timed codes, no finger
Top 10 reasons to have Vikavolt in PIF
Number 1. I won a match with it only (I did 2 matches total)
2 matches total only using Vikavolt?
Yes
So that’s only a 50% win rate. Raise it to 90% then we’ll see about adding Vikavolt to the game 
-# now show the rank 
well, the enemy's team looked quite dangerous
Fun teams with an azurill and Pichu is more dangerous than legendary spam meta
WHYn is Hoenn getting released? 
WHOn is Hoenn getting released
HOWn is Hoenn getting released?
Gotta make a good fusion of this
WhOw hoenn is releasing
*whon
I said who, you were suppost to say WHATn
We always ask "when is hoenn" but never "how is hoenn"
Wheren Hoenn is releasing
whermst
whomst'd'ven
Why is Hoenn
imma ask a real question
are we getting the PIF hoenn battlepass
featuring john fortnite ? as a trainer model
do you want us to get nintendoed?
because that's a fast way to get nintendoed
i am totally not a nintendo agent sent to destroy a harmless fan project
Hi totally not a nintendo agent sent to destroy a harmless fan project
I'm Juster
there was an oppotunity...and you failed this city
you reminded me that i can add Jonsey fortnite to my Tomodachi life island. thank you

Im tempted to get switch 2 just for tomodachi life 2 and miitopia
both of those game are on the switch 1?
huh, I actually thought that tomodachi life would be a switch 2 exclusive too. That's good to know
If you need reason to get a Switch 2, just do what I'm doing and wait for the next Direct
I'll need a good looking Zelda game or Starfox game that isn't 64 Remake Number 50 before I consider it
Echos of wisdom style or botw style
Either
or a links crossbow training
Both styles have their place
How about a remake of starfox adventures
that would make me fall out of my chair
with starfox in the mario movie its a possibility
for me im waiting for the new fire emblem before i get a switch 2
Im waiting for that kind of leisure money to get a switch 2
Im a sucker for mario kart, I desperately want mario kart world lol
Fun fact: the Switch 2 is still less expensive than the Kanto starter LEGO set
i heard that nintendo might raise the switch 2 price again due to the economy
Yeah the RAM situation is better than it was a bit ago but still really bad. Thanks, AI
The price hikes and Steam Machine delay are starting to get to me
Honestly though, a faithful 2D sprite recreation of Colosseum with the fusion mechanic would be kinda sick
i wouldn't expect it, far as i know; no one has attempted to make a romhack or fangame for anything pokemon that isn't a mainline game
at best i think i remember hearing about someone starting a mystery dungeon one [can't remember which] but have heard jack all about it since
Looks at all the mystery dungeon ROMHacks of which there are PLENTY of
tbf that was years ago
and i don't 100% keep up to date with that community
PMD has a whole sprite resource thing
Haven't checked on that in a while but I wouldn't be surprised if there were already detailed portraits of Pombon, Gecqua, and Browt by now
no ranger hacks for sunny 😔
Pretty much Gen 1-5 and BDSP are only ones that has something worth mention
There are even ROM hacks that essentially bring PMD mechanics to the main series, and these predate actual PMD ROM hacks, as far as I'm aware. 😮
that explains why i've likely heard practically nothing
I think PMD is in the 'randomiser and move hack' stage, so really rudimentary in comparison to any other DS games. Though Gen IV is really only just coming out of that stage properly, and Gen V I think is still there. 😅
PMD has some cool rom hack with latest gen mon but currently they are limited by the cartridge itself
New Pokémon? Tell me more. 😮
Yeah they have mons up to gen 9
There is a site (unsure if I can find it) that also has every mon in the pmd style for people to use. There is also a editor thingy for people to make their own story in
One of the cool one is explorer of heaven (or the explorer of hell version with funny dialogues and swears) has mon up to gen 8. Hisuian Zorua even is a starter
I did play through a pmd team sky rom hack that had a bunch of new moms a few months ago
it even had cool mons lile glimmora and nihilego
can we make suggestions for PIF:Hoenn in #game-suggestions or not?
@civic harness wants a togeplume trainer battle 

How are the testing phases of the demo going? Or are there still some contents to be added?
suggestions for hoenn go into the hoenn form in the pins
from what they have said, more stuff is being added, and then they are bug testing them
@civic harness
allegedly soon
you forgor the ™
I understand, thank you
That would be a no lol. Go here: https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1332145977741541448
Going great, exept we just added a few more quests, so they need to be tested once they're done
we swear no more content after this
Paya right after the end of the bug test: what if we had one little extra feature, as a treat
the feature breaks the game and need 2 week of debugging 
More or less, yep 
Once pifh demo get ready to be interviewed
We changed something, added a whole questline/small feature, and completely changed how a different questline ends in a major way. It needs some custom assets that I've been working on for a few days. It'll be much better than how it was before, and very worth it
and ahead of schedule 
Ooo new quests
@civic harness dis the real one
i'm pretty excited for this
Indeed
Hey, been out of the loop for a while. Do we have a Hoenn game to play yet?
For me the Hoenn Numbers are my game release. 
Now is it a quest that gives you a single gift Pokemon or a 9 quest long story

*A 9 Quest Story for a single Basculin
Its a 9 quest long catching tutorial
Besides more Hoenn Pokemon which generations also get it? More Alola? Some from Galar or Paldea?
In addition to the rest of the Hoenn pokemon we are getting Skrelp, Tynamo, and Woobat + evolutions of all 3
Nothing from Gens 8 or 9 ever
Coding restraints
The Dexit mons ironically get Dexit’d from the engine
Hey, the mons of Galar didn't do anything wrong,
The embargo is the Galarian Commons' fault
can't wait for simple swoobat + quiver dance fusion shenennigans
It's just coding restraints. If Frog wanted to add stuff from gens 8 and 9 more than half the code of both games would need to be redone so
Safe to say it's never happening
oh, yeah I know, was making a joke on the 'irony'
Ahh valid lol
What if a madman took the challenge of redoing the code onto the newer engine and making it functional?

How could that be if embargo was removed in galar, huh?
That's exactly the thing tho, they took the power away from the people!
Don't you see the conspiracy right in front of you?!
uhh
I put Hoenn on there but I think he's sinnoh
I mean technically he's from like, space, or the ozone layer
Hmm
This is a joke right?
I have barely played Pokémon.. I just got back into it after like 5 years...
well then
I'm lost in regions tbh
He is like the symbol of hoenn
Ohhh okkk thank you
This is Rayquaza, one of the strongest Pokémon in existence (currently), legend of Hoenn and the guy who keeps Groudon and Kyogre in check
I like groudon 🙂
box mascot of Emerald version
Correct
K
I'm gonna do Steelix tmmrw
Maybe Lucario? He is a pain to draw.
See y'all, imma go see some MHA
How would pokopia infinite fusion look like?
2D
would def require custom party sprites being made for fusions
not worth the effort
Basically any spin off PIF game would take a significant amount of work and will never happen
pinball might be possible, i think that would be the easiest thing to maybe do...and the art already exists so
Pokemon Ruby Sapphire pinball is one of the best side games ever
Stoked for pokemon infinite trading card game fusion for the game boy
I loved that game so much, I miss it 
yeah I should replay it soon
Uh, I have a question regarding the region. I know the game is primarily in hoenn and all, but is there a chance that they'll include other regions too like say, Sinnoh or Unova? Just curious.
Way too early to know for sure
ah, I see. Guess I'll find out with time.
There are no plans to at the moment
(Words from Paya)
They'd also have to find a region that geographically makes sense and neither Sinnoh nor Unova fit that requirement. Sinnoh is based on the opposite side of Japan that Hoenn is based and Unova is based on New York City + surrounding areas
Unless of course
The April Fools isn't actually April Fools and there is a plan for Orre post-game 

It's so addictive, I wish they made a version in the DS era with more boards and whatnot. 🙂
that creates a much more dangerous problem...monkeys
Why is that a problem?
Idk what you mean
The Monkey are great
I like the mokeys
Im real I dislike Grimer or so more than I could ever the Monkeys
They are real fun
Even more as preevos
They’re gonna have you pick between the shadow monkeys instead of the shadow Johto starters 
We have officially made the decision to replace Kyogre with Panpour, Groudon with Pansear, and Rayquaza with Pansage. No, they will not evolve. Thank you. 🙂
I feel like this wouldn't work.
Pansage can't fly.
Yes it can, it does the Superman thing. 😄
Its tail acts like a cape, and it's only been sucked into plane jets twice. After the second time, it was a lighter colour, so it must have got sun bleached from staying in the sky so long or something. 🙂
Theres things called boats and planes lol. Geographical location isnt that big of a factor
honetly good desicion i suport it fully
It's probably easier to add islands to Hoenn (either new or drawing from the anime) than it is to make a new region that'd fit. 😅
Orre, Holon or Fiore would be the only real contenders for separate regions, I'd imagine. 😮
I don't remember if they said anything about the battle frontier
That could be neat
Honestly, Hoenn alone is gonna be fantastic
Peak pokemon
Aside from clodsire
Clodsire is the true peak of pokemon
Y'all remember in Pokémon emerald (if you played) when groudon and kyogre were beefing for the 19272919374728283763816562815th time, you needed to wake up rayquaza to stop them?
Yeah
NGL I think rayquaza is the best out the trio
theres nothing said bout it cause thats post game and their working on the first demo i think somewhere up to gym 2 or 3
Bros been dealing with 2 oversized animals for over 500 years
He's just sick of their BS
I remember as a kid I had all 3 versions, and one of them I kept in that state cause it was cool



