pif-hoenn-discussion

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[trail hull]

tbh I kinda want to see a screenshot of it

tho there was a guy who managed to do it apparently

[hushed axle]

Don’t think there’s much to it, just compiler errors more than likely

[trail hull]

oh

[hushed axle]

Essentials v20+ has plugins for it that work with base projects. IF runs on v19 (originally 18)

[trail hull]

I meant a guy managed to make it work for pif

[hushed axle]

Oh, yea probably. They would’ve just had to manually do it.

Frog has other things to worry about

[trail hull]

but there might have been a complication cuz when they told frog I think they refused

[trail hull]

yeah

we all know frog is working on pif 3

[tacit saddle]

what about 2?

[cedar path]

we dont talk about that one

[outer matrix]

on the first day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: one basculin, two-

[trail hull]

not since the accident

[trail hull]

okay I'm gonna write the full thing

[outer matrix]

[full bison]

Two Pikaclones, 3 Wormadam...

[opaque flare]

the infinite caterpie clones

or pidgey clones

[analog stag]

Man if we voted Burmy line in that’s a 7 dex entry line lmao

Would’ve been really funny

[full bison]

Probably only 5 considering Burmy forms have no differences

"only" 5

[analog stag]

Different types

[full bison]

All pure Bug

[analog stag]

Ahh

[full bison]

Wormadam is the one with 3 different types

[analog stag]

I thought the Burmys had the types too

[opaque flare]

the gen5 bug:

no wait, that was before gen5

[full bison]

Gen 5 Bugs are all 1000 times better than the Burmy line

[marble meadow]

hm wonder how much slot vivilion and burmy takes

[analog stag]

Vivillon would be 1

[marble meadow]

oh yeah the other patterns could be alts

[analog stag]

People can make alts of the patterns they like

It doesn’t affect stats or type yeah

[marble meadow]

or that this would make intressting fusions

[full bison]

Vivillon/Porygon ASCII art when

[analog stag]

Minior was seperated cause of the stat differences between core and meteor

[outer matrix]

besides, vivillon's forms are real world dependent

[marble meadow]

u know what justice for vivillon

[analog stag]

Darmanitan Zen would also be a seperate mon

[full bison]

If Zenmanitan works like how Frog described Minior working, it might actually be a relevant Pokemon

[next flare]

Frog should add an invasive geolocation tracker to PIF

[outer matrix]

can't wait to get ocean pattern that way

[analog stag]

Would Hoopa and Hoopa Unbound be two mons?

Yeah probably

[velvet root]

yes

[opaque flare]

assuming lycanroc has 2 forms, oricorio has 4, yes

[marble meadow]

well its typing change

[opaque flare]

even necrozma and ultra necrozma are different

[full bison]

Add that alongside mic functionality for Chatot and PIF just becomes spyware

[analog stag]

Dusk form got screwed over

[marble meadow]

and zygarde takes 3 slots

[opaque flare]

lycanroc are both forms the same typing

[analog stag]

All 3 of them are but they have stat differences

[opaque flare]

dusk form is an event mon

[trail hull]

on the first day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: one basculin,
on the second day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the third day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: three wurmple ,two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the fourth day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: four lumineon , three wurmple ,two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the fith day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple ,two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the sixth day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple, two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the seventh day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple, two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the eight day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: eight purugly,seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple, two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the nineth day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: nine shellos,eight purugly,seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple, two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the tenth day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: ten clamperl, nine shellos,eight purugly,seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple, ,two jellicent, one basculin
on the eleventh day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: eleventh tynamo, ten clamperl, nine shellos,eight purugly,seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple ,two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree
on the twelve day of bruxmas my true hater gave to me: twelve alomomola, eleventh tynamo, ten clamperl, nine shellos,eight purugly,seven diggersby, sixth minun, five plusle,four lumineon , three wurmple ,two jellicent and a basculin in a juniper tree

[full bison]

Dang, that's a lot of words

[velvet root]

Me brain just died

[analog stag]

3 different forms of Zygarde

[opaque flare]

i read the first sentence .....
then i blocked

[analog stag]

[marble meadow]

electric type air ballon shedinja when

[opaque flare]

when this game has reached the capability of a 2 year old braindead kid

[marble meadow]

but eh soon if will have the true invincible mon eelektoss

[opaque flare]

no, since terra is bullshit and wont come

and you wont have an invincible mon

[marble meadow]

but here are my 3 guesses for the next batch of mons liligant malamar and amonguus

[opaque flare]

amoongus just for the meme

[marble meadow]

and i think the next legendarys are the x y ones cuz of za

[hushed axle]

Leech seed

[next flare]

Your fifth day lyrics are a bit janky

On the twelfth day of bruxmas my true hater gave me: twelve alomomola, eleven tynamo, ten clamperl, nine shellos, eight purugly, seven plusle , six minun, FIVE DIGGERSBY ,four lumineon , three wurmple, two jellicent, and a basculin in a Juniper tree

[opaque flare]

imagine misspelling diggersby xD

[next flare]

?

[marble meadow]

wonder what ub will be the first in if

[opaque flare]

best would be if all UBs are added at the same time

[next flare]

That is simultaneously the best and worst option

[full bison]

If they are added individually, the first would most likely be either Poipole or Nihilego

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-draft-necro-necrozma-psychic-gif-14477380746978259860

[full bison]

Poipole's described as basically being an Ultra Space starter, and Nihilego's the poster child of the UBs

I will go absolutely nuts designing as many UB fusions as possible if they're added

[hushed axle]

Do it anyways 👀

Then they can be the first ones added

[full bison]

I've got a bunch of other stuff I'm still trying to draw up RN

I'm still struggling to think of how to actually draw up this Fusions body

[next flare]

I already know that way too many people will be referencing the Lusamine thing when Nihilego gets added

[hushed axle]

Ohno

Not more rule2 fodder

[full bison]

I really hope people don't go too crazy with that. I will be so disappointed if most Nihilego Fusions are just "Nihilego on this things head"

[hushed axle]

A Nihilego/Parasect fusion would go hard af tho

[marble meadow]

can,t wait to see the mr.mime horror fusion with it and blacepholon

[full bison]

Literally just Pennywise

I'm most interested in how people would use Kartana to turn Pokemon into papercrafts

[marble meadow]

alias origami

[opaque flare]

stunfisk fusions with paper

[hushed axle]

Origami fusions would be p cool ngl

[hushed axle]

Would literally just be a blank piece of paper

Just be the 2003 Word doc icon

Perfect sprite

[outer matrix]

blacephalon gives out another clown theme

[full bison]

The fact that every single Blacephalon fusion I've seen is a super happy colorful fun fellow when it's the interdimensional alien while Mr. Mime is forced to be nightmare fuel baffles me

[hushed axle]

Valid lmao

[outer matrix]

I mean, have you seen the detective pikachu mr mime?

[full bison]

Detective Pikachu made everything nightmare fuel, that's not really fair

"this is what Pokemon will look like in 2018!" Aah movie

[next flare]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-scary-monkey-aipom-gif-13598815

[marble meadow]

blacephalon rapidash headless horse or dullahan horse

[full bison]

This is why companies should stop trying to make cartoony characters look realistic

[marble meadow]

malamar would be neat for the next additions of mons

[full bison]

Malamar is definitely top of the pile in the territory of Pokemon that aren't that statistically good, but the aesthetic potential of using it for Fusions is difficult to match.

[fathom ridge]

vikavolt is also ass competitively but it would be so great

[full bison]

I feel like you could combine Vikavolt with a decently fast/bulky body and it could become okay.

The big Pokemon I want for aesthetics are Musharna and Bronzong

[fathom ridge]

idk it does have 145 spatk

[gray stream]

real

[fathom ridge]

the bell would be awesome ngl, i love the greenish bronce

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-mime-detective-pikachu-creepy-gif-24669141

[full bison]

Bronzor/Minior would make for a really cool Nebra Sky Disc fusion

[proud lion]

I wish we had more movie nights /anime episode binges

[inland jewel]

apply for mod and then try to run it

as a person who ran movie nights in my personal server, it wasn't to hard

to hard part mostly is finding legal sites that sstill have acccess to those movies and a streaming service that won't block you if you stream it

since a couple of the movies i ran, were black screen due to discord screen share

[cedar path]

legal sites

lmao.

[inland jewel]

when you're a mod you have to do legal stuff else it'll get the server taken down

[cedar path]

the entire fan game is using pokemon's IP but yeah sure I see where youre going with it

[west sonnet]

Yeah having done this a lot

You gotta try a bit

[cedar path]

good thing this is a non-profit fan game lol

[tacit saddle]

[prime dust]

or owning the movie outright

[inland jewel]

physical media aint that cracked out to be

there is so many hooops you have to jump through to play physical media on modern devices now adays

[prime dust]

who said anything about physical

could very well own it digitally

[inland jewel]

most of what i own is physical, and i recently tried to run a disc on my dad's laptop

turns out modern laptops don't have a media player installed off the bat

well, ones that support discs

even then, the quality is pretty bad since its trying to run old media on non-supported formats

[hushed axle]

Throwback to 15 year old me checking out cds at the library to rip them onto my iPod

[night heron]

Why did they do this what the hell 😭

Not my boy

[night heron]

It's probably because mime Jr makes more sense for all the cute ones

[viscid fossil]

It did have the artifically created poke-rabies during that scene

[sand mica]

Except Mr. Mime, somehow. They made Mr. Mime look normal but all the others really off.

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-mr-mime-physic-pokemon-fairy-pokemon-mood-gif-12870680

[trail hull]

the channel isn't dead yet!?
At that point I think frog is just taking it's sw<eet time seeing the chat slowly die lol

[ember bear]

when update drops ig

[opaque flare]

then this cghannel will be closed until next year when the next bunch of pokemon gets added 😄

[velvet root]

Nah we will get new encounters, either a handfull again after this year or over all the holidays

Talking about it, we should have gotten Gogoat this time and Minior for new year

[velvet root]

Source: Trust me bro

[opaque flare]

xurxitree on christmas, and the explosive head thingy on new year, alomomola on valentines day

[wide merlin]

I Hope than the update Come soon

[opaque flare]

ETA december-february

[prime dust]

and that is a guesstimate

from our part

[inland jewel]

yee we know from the past that the channel exists for like a few weeks after the update that brings the mons to public is released

so once we get 6.3 actual we got like 2-3 weeks before this channel is hidden again

[trail hull]

if we get mons every year then this chat is acutally a creature that comes out of hirbernation at the middle/end of summer and that goes back in around january

[inland jewel]

well last time it didn't leave until a bit after the psychic update

since they hadn't implimented Meloetta yet

and by then they announced 2 other pokemon to be included

[grizzled roost]

Have all new pokemon been revealed? I just hopped to the wiki and found that there are 501 pokemon total

[tacit saddle]

yes, check pins

[grizzled roost]

cool

[marble meadow]

actually i got a run idea but i must check with one are the big shot ref alias spamton i try to finish it before the next batch of mons

[outer matrix]

His shoulders look like dodgeballs

[dusky coral]

Ngl kinda wish I never got back into this game cuz now I gotta spend 5 hours downloading updates and new sprites

Again

[gray vine]

you really dont

i dunno why again, before the game auto updated and got all sprites and now all you need is the lightweight game which already has all sprites

[tacit saddle]

(also, wrong chat technically)

[gray vine]

or you play the beta which has the auto sprite feature again

[tacit saddle]

if you want, i cna help you over in #tech-support. i've seen times go from overnight to 10 minutes after i helped them

[velvet root]

Next 2 pokemon I get get a fusion!

[outer matrix]

are you going to limit it to gens 1-7?

[velvet root]

yes

[coral axle]

Ooh fun

[velvet root]

I want you guys to guess what I get

[tacit saddle]

no

[gray stream]

i do that sometimes too. imma do a random rn

[outer matrix]

shellder?

or vanillite?

[velvet root]

Okay now I do it

Gotta reopen cuz I accidantly closed it XD

Beheeyem/Absol qwq

F it I do 2

[full bison]

A Sun themed lizard combined with Cofagrigus and its Egypt motif? So many cool ways that could be taken

[fossil rover]

I was originally gonna combine heliolisk with unown to make bill cipher lol

Because triangles

[weak trellis]

could probably make it an alt for raichu? I think I've seen a few Bill alts though for giratina

could also do the reverse and have it be a solar pane cofagrigus

[fossil rover]

I ended up using snorunt because they ARE a triangle

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-abridged-mr-popo-all-these-squares-make-a-circle-gif-20563687

[hushed axle]

Minior/Absol?

[velvet root]

[unkempt kernel]

It’s beheyem

[hushed axle]

Ah

[stuck cave]

Do Minior body fusions need both core and shell forms?

[hushed axle]

They have two different dex numbers

[stuck cave]

mmm so yes

[acoustic compass]

I would probably be a good idea to create both

[outer matrix]

https://ptgigi.com/apps/pokemon/randomizer/ this website can also be used to get random pokemon as well

[full bison]

I can make something nice with this, I think...

[velvet root]

Nah
There is a Marshadow in the fusion
Impossible to be good

[tacit saddle]

hater

[velvet root]

Nah I like it
Just not as much as everything else in existence

[outer matrix]

hey look a free skiddo fusion

[hollow plume]

Just a quick reminder:

Mighters

[tacit saddle]

dog with hat

[lilac frigate]

pancham should be in the gaeeee

gameee

[gray vine]

What about Pangoro

[quaint matrix]

I haven't been here for ahilw lemme just say

https://tenor.com/view/mightyena-pokemon-grr-angry-pissed-off-gif-10515045

MIGHTYENA NATION

https://tenor.com/view/furfrou-pokemon-pokémon-anime-anipoke-gif-14871687952653676675

FURFROU NATION

That is all

[viscid fossil]

woof

Enough said

[full bison]

Team Nihilego always and forever

[quaint matrix]

I agree on Nihilego but if she comes everyone else with her should as well

[proud lion]

Team Monkeys

[stoic canopy]

The absolute horror fusions we get if Nihilego joins…

[full bison]

That's exactly why I want it. It provides a completely unique form of creepy Fusions from most other Pokemon. Pokemon like Pinsir have more straightforwardly scary, but Nihilego could take advantage of the Uncanny Valley

[outer matrix]

from nihilego fusions being faceless and semi-transparent?

[gray stream]

nihilego would be incredible 💯 i love nihilego

[outer matrix]

-# what if we all made a (unofficial) team nihilego

[gray stream]

dude, i would totally join that, but i love all of the ultra beasts. why not make a team for ultra beasts because they are all based and cool??

[proud lion]

Nah Simisear fusions would be pinnacle of horror

[full bison]

Simisear Fusions would serve as a constant reminder of the beta design that was taken from us

[gray stream]

idea: have every simisear be an alt based on the beta version.

no main sprites.

[stoic canopy]

I’d be down for that. Shame we won’t get it.

[prime dust]

we might eventually

as a troll pick from frog

though even he dislikes them

so it'd be one hell of a troll pick

[molten loom]

maybe as a way to switch up from doing another troll fish

[prime dust]

we have 2 left

[full bison]

The big thing keeping me from joining a spriting team is I don't feel confident in spriting, but I would go crazy drawing Nihilego Fusions

[stoic canopy]

So it’ll take 3 years for us to get the monkeys

[prime dust]

depends on how many mons frog wants to add at a time

and that was factoring in form variations

[west sonnet]

I mean at current rate of production it will take us that long to sprite the current 501 mons

[prime dust]

I assume that is including alts though, which I know both frog and the sprite managers want to separate out into an optional download, to cut down on file fluff

[alpine rune]

tbh its because even if theres like 3000 spriters, theres only ~100 active ones

Most of the spriters dump 3-30 sprites and never came back

[dusty arrow]

hello chat

[west sonnet]

I know

Current rate of production is around 1k-1.5k sprites per month

(If I did my math right weeks ago that I sorta remember)

[bronze barn]

Ok but imagine a team of all ultra beasts

We'd be unstoppable!

[trail hull]

WoW the pace slowed down a lot

[west sonnet]

This is only counting Daena sprites

So approximately 30 base mons aren’t included

[full bison]

How much of Pangoro's sprites would be dedicated to Jotaro references, you think? I'm imagining it'd be quite a fair amount.

[outer matrix]

(unofficial) team nihilego could turn into that

[mystic salmon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1196485717417795584/1301558711214669915/image0-16.gif

ts guy

as a pokemon

[delicate badger]

speak your truth

[quaint matrix]

I can only join this if this is also a prelude to join Team UB

[outer matrix]

the fusions could lead to that, but idk

[quaint matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[outer matrix]

it's getting late for me, so gn

[hexed agate]

It's typically closer to 5k

Give or take

But a lot of those are alts, or don't add to the missing total of the game

[mental pilot]

We need the sexy mosquito (buzzwole)

[trail hull]

Can’t wait for an other spritework thread with 10k+ messages

[velvet root]

How many does Goat have again?

just 10k

wow we are Slaking around

[sterile spoke]

Both of these are 10/10. ❤️

[sweet spoke]

Would it have a stand that's just shiny Pangoro?

[full bison]

That depends entirely on what's fused with it

[sweet spoke]

yeah that's fair-

[proud lion]

Gen 4 gets no love this update

[hot hamlet]

That or mob boss sprites like Honchkrow and Krookodile before it

[stoic canopy]

Pangoro always struck me as mob muscle rather than mob boss material.

Having said that, I do think pangoro will make a good base for a Kingpin reference.

[fathom ridge]

Having an unnoficial UB team would be so fun!

[outer matrix]

#1310683068876460033 Now open!

[clear lichen]

A friend was just showing off the Carbink/Arceus and Minior/Gardevoir fusions and I was like "Oh hey IF" and she wasn't even aware because she found them on Ribbon's tumblr lol

[frank marten]

Decided to make this chart because I was procrastinating was curious. The most undersprited pokemon is currently Frogadier, with 60 sprites. The most sprited pokemon is Carbink, with 486 sprites. I was very surprised to learn that the froakie line is sprited less than the chespin line, with the exception of greninja!

Hakamo-o, Fomantis, Quilladin, Froakie, Frogadier, Scraggy, Lotad, Lombre, and Ludicolo are all sub-100

[outer matrix]

frogadier has less then quilladin?

[frank marten]

yep!!

[hushed axle]

Wild

[frank marten]

I will say that this search also didnt account for spelling errors, so there might be a few missed

[cobalt river]

im actually not tooooo surprised frogadier has less then quilladin quilladin isnt liked much but its a very unique shape haha- frogadier is incredibly similar and hard to distiniguish from froakie in head, and greninja in body

hard one to work with

[sweet spoke]

I never got the quilladin hate
the only thing i find weird about the dude is long nose

and... that's it

[frank marten]

It only beats quilladin by 13 sprites, so theyre still very comparable

[sweet spoke]

he's just a round guy

[frank marten]

one dedicated person could probably make frogadier overtake in like, a day if they worked on it

[mystic crystal]

I feel bad for some of the new pokemon that don't have a lot of sprites 😔 but I do not have the time nor motivation to make a lot of sprites for them

[cobalt river]

im just glad carbink remains surpreme

[frank marten]

yep its almost halfway complete, assuming no dupes (but there are probably some dupes)

[outer matrix]

I wonder why carbink has so many sprites in a short time

[cobalt river]

power of bink :] and power of gems being fun to sprite haha

[frank marten]

my fav part of carbink is the fluff

its very cute

[outer matrix]

I feel like carbink is easier to sprite than diancie

[frank marten]

def

[cobalt river]

this is also very true. i think the carbin k fusion i made im happiest with is probably my scoli just cus it was fun to make it into a llama bug with the fluff haha

yeah, carbink is more natural rock formations- diancies polished gems. even not accounting for diancie having some more parts n details, the polished gems can make them a bit harder to work with

[proud lion]

Delphox has the highest amount of the starters there because the internet.

[outer matrix]

I gave up on my contest entry because I couldn't figure out how to design the body fusion

[full bison]

I have an almost finished Deoxys/Diancie, but I'm really struggling with how to actually complete it

[cobalt river]

good luck! diancie bodies r definitely harder then the heads yea

ive done One Body and One Head today. and thats all ive done the entire week as well but at least theyre done

[frank marten]

she is like a metapod. to me

[cobalt river]

^ you get it

[full bison]

The torso is actually the big issue. I combined Deoxys's DNA theme with Diancie's Gem theme and gave it an abdomen that looks like that geometric shape at the top of a Bacteriophage. The issue is how I follow through on that with connecting it to the head

[cobalt river]

oooo that sounds creative

my mind would jump to smth combin the sleeker upper half of deoxys and then its hip disks things combined with mega diancies golden things to create... weird little grabbers? but deoxys offers so many options , theres a lot to work with there

[full bison]

Might actually try that. Thanks for the idea, really appreciate it

[outer matrix]

I'll probably make a blissey/diancie or a blacephalon/diancie later

[cobalt river]

np! i love brainstorming designs and diancie bodies with creative use of what to do with her rock body r always the most fun to see

[full bison]

Part of me kinda wants to make a Toxapex/Diancie that's just carrying around a poor Corsola as a quick and ready meal lol

[outer matrix]

for blissey, I feel like basing the gem parts off of quartz or pearls would work, and for blacephalon, possibly a rainbow-colored gem

[cobalt river]

....oh, just saw this
very funny to see my tumblr out there hehe

[dusty arrow]

hiiii squidwaaard

[strange egret]

I would be interested in seeing an extension of this chart that distinguishes head and body fusions. From a cursory examination of the sprite-gallery channel, it looks like the majority of the sprites contributing to the most-sprited Pokemon in the chart are head fusions - I wonder how Carbink or Minior bodies, say, would compare to some of the other mons on here.
I only skimmed the previous messages, so apologies for any redundancy.

[full bison]

Carbink has an OK amount of body fusions, but Minior bodies are definitely harder to work with, unless we're talking Pokemon like Cofagrigus or Scrafty that provide some form of outer covering to work with

[prime dust]

it's almost like i called this happening

[ocean lark]

players: the greninja line is so popular, there should be many sprites for them
spriters:

[west sonnet]

Imo it’s bc Daena doesn’t have it

right now it’s kinda like spriting into a void

[full bison]

Frogadier getting less sprites than Quilladin is a big shock

I figured it was one of the more popular middle stages

[inland jewel]

Single stage mon, no need to link it with others, unique astetic that isn't touched upon by most other mons (Its competitors is Sableye and Regiice in crystals )

Not a 2nd stage mon (The most forgotten type of fusion in this game)

its also relatively easy to work with

no complex patterns or parts that makes you tear your brain out

[gray stream]

true

im a pretty big carbink spriter

[frank marten]

Tbh, I’m unsure how to run a search that separates the two. Might be possible with a bot

[inland jewel]

try doing it like /carbink and carbink/

idk if that will sort it or not

it doesn't

[velvet root]

I had a dream that the update came out qwq

[alpine rune]

Let me guess, gogoat is there

[velvet root]

No I literally said the update came out
Gogoat sadly isnt in it

[inland jewel]

whats the percentage of missing mons per region?

[prime dust]

the moon is real...but birbs

those are definately drones

[velvet root]

Nah Cats are hidden cameras

[stoic canopy]

Nah, dogs are a psyop.

[tacit saddle]

i'm fake

[hearty skiff]

Sorry, I'm a bit out the loop lol, they're adding new Pokémon someday? The FAQ said otherwise, but this channel implies so.

[tacit saddle]

they are

check pins for the list for the most recent pokemon

some are present in the beta, some are not

but they'll all be in the next release

[hearty skiff]

That's cool

Must be a lot of work adding new mons 😅

[tacit saddle]

it's not as much work as it COULD be

since frog uses pre-coded in pokemon

which is why we're not getting any pokemon in gens 8+

becasue the program doesnt have gen 8+ pokemon added

so he would have to program all of it himself, yada yada ... hassle

[hearty skiff]

Ah, right.

Nice to now know why their is no Gen 8+

[velvet root]

FAQ is a little outdated

[hearty skiff]

Thought so.

Love your sprites btw

[velvet root]

What would you wish as a new Pokémon in the game tho?
(Not me searching spriting ideas)

[hearty skiff]

Not sure tbh.

Most my favourites are already included.

[velvet root]

You know my sprites👀

Nice thanks man

[hearty skiff]

Not that it would happen, but the Gen V starters where a surprise exclude tbh.

[velvet root]

They lost last years popularity vote
So we likely get them in 2 years if we continue adding starters every update

[hearty skiff]

Specifically Serperior.

Tbh the game as is has enough content to last me 20 years, so 2 is basically nothing.

[velvet root]

Fair

And after the Customization update its likely even more

[prime dust]

I'd prefer next big update to be more like the 6.0 one, we have more community voted mons to bring in [just maybe not so many events and pokemon so as to not overwork the spriters]

[velvet root]

I see that

[prime dust]

another 30 would be fine, with 15-20 of them community and the rest being frog and staff picks

[velvet root]

I mean def less events
The events kinda ruin the mons

[velvet root]

Love that

[prime dust]

i mathed it awhile ago, if 30 is the new norm, we're looking at 11 more years of mons

[velvet root]

I also think we should get 2 of the bottom lines
Cuz yeah people dont like them, but that doesnt mean they are bad spritewise

Thats a example

[prime dust]

well don't worry, we only have 2 more trollfish left

[hushed axle]

[velvet root]

Oh and we obv keep troll fish

[unkempt kernel]

Funny Draco meteor tanking squirrel should be added next mon update

[prime dust]

next year be Basculin and the year after is Alolomola

[unkempt kernel]

Nah we’ll get the other pink fish next year

[velvet root]

Well gotta say Luvdisc is pretty nice and I can see the same for Basculin

[velvet root]

Nah Flying squirrel cuz people hate it

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-laughing-emolga-gif-11731999

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-cute-shiny-pokemon-squirrel-gif-26992650

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-hate-loathe-loathing-wave-gif-4839827

^pretty much all pikaclones

[velvet root]

Ngl Pachi and Emolga are both nice
Should get in together in a reveal of 2 Pokémon stealing a nut from each other

[indigo sierra]

shame we wont get enamorus (she is Begging for lesbian colored fusions) but as long as i eventually get popplio and oshawott im good

though i could definitely see one of the other forces of nature having a fusion with her as an alt sprite

[west sonnet]

Funny thought

If we added Every Minior core base

and we gave every base every colour

Wouldn’t that result in like, 8 bases per base

[inland jewel]

assuming that next year we get 30 more pokemon

which 30 would be the most logical choice

[clear lichen]

Screw logic, I need to fuel the UB agenda

[inland jewel]

Next year is the gen 7 update Gen 7 starters + UB

considering 11 UB

and then 9 starters slots

[clear lichen]

As long as the UBs are added with Cosmog line fuck it why not

[inland jewel]

which then gives us 10 community slots

[clear lichen]

Screw logic I need to fulfil the agenda

[inland jewel]

Unless Frog does a wacky poll and asks us which our favorite gen is

[clear lichen]

24 fucking Gen 7 Pokemon
"Holy shit"

• 90% of the server, probably

[stoic canopy]

Gen 7 does seem to be popular…

[inland jewel]

Gen 7 is my favorite gen and im a gen 3 kid

[clear lichen]

OK but I feel like anyone who cares more about gameplay would not he pleased with all 11 UBs and a legendary line of 4 Pokemon being added

[inland jewel]

since last game to have a full dex + the romhack i really like uses that as a base

[clear lichen]

Those mfs are gonna be late or post game

[carmine iris]

Free my boy mudsdale bro did nuthin wrong

[stoic canopy]

We may be able to spend them out more in remix mode

[clear lichen]

Actually it'd be cool if they had the less overwhelming UBs appear first

[inland jewel]

yee as a person who hugely advocates for early mons (if the pokemon isn't regulated to Johto the better) UBs would suck immensely

[clear lichen]

Like we could start with uhhhh

Guzzlord

[carmine iris]

Nihilego?

[clear lichen]

And then end with something like Blacephalon or Kartana

[inland jewel]

the only UB that would fit in Kanto would be Poiple

that would kickstart the pipeline to the later UBs in Johto

[clear lichen]

OK but Nihilego is a lot more usable than Guzzlord

[stoic canopy]

But not broken

[carmine iris]

Fair

[clear lichen]

Would be a nice reference to SM though

[inland jewel]

guzzlord would make an insanely good head mon

[carmine iris]

When i see a strong looking pokemon and they arent actually strong its kinda depressing

[clear lichen]

Ikr?

[inland jewel]

with 223/97/53 baseline for the head

[clear lichen]

Guzzlord is probably canonically the strongest UB

But then it's just ass in battle

And I'm like "bruh"

[inland jewel]

its only ass because its defensive stats are trash

[clear lichen]

Fusions save this man

Or woman idk I shouldn't gender the living black hole thing

Is guzzlord's real head its body or the small head on top

[inland jewel]

according to japael

the tiny head on top

since this is it's fusion

[clear lichen]

Idk the tiny head is still there

And the other Pokemon's head replaced the eyes

So Japeal is saying the main head is the one with the massive fucking mouth

[inland jewel]

then imo the head should havebeen where the mouth is for the fusion

if that was the case

it would be like gigas fusions

[outer matrix]

so, most fusions with guzzlord will have 4 mouths

[stoic canopy]

All of them screaming or eating.

[outer matrix]

some blacephalon auto-gens have a good color palette

[fallen loom]

Trapinch mouth hand/claws

[full bison]

Blacephalon in general has a good color palette, it makes sense that Autogens would carry that over

[outer matrix]

some japeal blacephalon autogens with some good body palettes

[full bison]

That Garbodor one is almost perfect as is. I wouldn't be able to immediately tell that it's an autogen if I just randomly saw it.

[gray stream]

i think serperior looks the best

[outer matrix]

agreed

[molten loom]

The mantyke? one looks dead inside

But yeah serperiors is 100% the best there

[ocean linden]

The pose of Blacephalon makes me want a fusion based on Chad Thundercock

https://tenor.com/view/chad-thundercock-gif-18294050

[void flume]

My kingdom for Mr. Phalon. Ultimate clown.

[hot hamlet]

Blace Jr

[void flume]

Mime Jr hat shape but it's fireworks with the candy cane body

I can just picture it

[wide merlin]

i don't know this meme

[ocean linden]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CuratedTumblr/comments/1evnrvh/putting_an_unnecessary_amount_of_effort_into/#lightbox

[wide merlin]

oh this meme

[merry shale]

I wonder if stunky and skuntank/stuntank will be added?

Sorry I meant skunky get it cos they are skunks

[prime dust]

what frog adds and when is up to him

so far it seems to be mostly doing something during the summer [late july/early august]

last year we had a bigger community vote, and got 20 mons, frog added an extra 30 on top of that

this year we only had 1 community voted mon/line to add in, frog threw in an extra 28

[velvet root]

Would like them

[inland jewel]

Skuntank would be a nice addition

Plus more aftermath fodder

[full bison]

I think a lot of people are generally worried about the kind of sprites that would be made with skuntank

[opaque flare]

better than most other sprites

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/monke-uh-oh-stinky-uh-oh-stinky-monke-gif-18263597

[inland jewel]

To be fair, any sprite that wouldn’t be allowed would be nuked anyway

So not including it because people will be gross with it when those kind of sprites will be deleted/not included is dumb

[sweet spoke]

I can hear this

[rancid nymph]

Good

[velvet root]

Already happend with luvdisc
But it could be that staff does something against it same as the Milk one

[hearty skiff]

I'm kind of surprised no one's done anything weird with Miltank tbh.

Or at least, not that I've seen...

[molten loom]

You haven't seen many Miltank sprites have you?

[hearty skiff]

aha, I don't know if I want to look now 😅

[molten loom]

Some examples

[hearty skiff]

oh wow

yeah, hadn't seen those.

That Galvantula one is horrible wtf

[rapid island]

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/thanks-i-hate-it-no-thanks-gif-18664913

[inland jewel]

those are the more tame ones

well... maybe not the galvantula

but it can and has gotten worst

the more egrigious offenders have been removed

[molten loom]

Galvantula is probably one of the worst

[velvet root]

most did stuff with Tank

[hearty skiff]

I must've just not been here to see it then lol.

[inland jewel]

oh yeah it happened way back when

its why we have a rule for it

[hearty skiff]

That's crazy

You'd think people would know NOT to do wild shit

[rancid nymph]

I thought that was because of Loppuny and Gardevoir

[hearty skiff]

gardevoir fusions are honestly fire tbh

I love looking at cool dress designs (I get it from my partner lol) and the spriters here get really creative!

[inland jewel]

Gardevoir can be made racy

but most people choose to be wholesome

believe it or not Goodra was a main offender of the rule

though that was more one person kept trying ot make adult sprites

One was a direct reference to a series that was 18+

[kind forum]

i was about to ask why that word was automodded, now i see why 😛

[inland jewel]

yee

so many refefences to anime

and the non-wholesome kind

[rancid nymph]

To be clear, Gardevoir isn’t a suss Pokémon on it’s own. Certain people just like to portray it that way

[inland jewel]

same goes for Goodra and Miltank

but we still had to make the rule

and removed said sprites

[hearty skiff]

same with Delphox surprisingly 💀

[inland jewel]

believe it or not, there is metrics that shows the top 20 for the amount of spicy art a pokemon has

and Lugia is up there for some reason

[fathom ridge]

I haven’t seen any weird delphox sprites tbh

[hearty skiff]

I used to look at a lot of custom sprites for Pokemon.

Like, a lot. I've seen almost everything.

[rancid nymph]

I’d ask why, but actually I don’t want to know

[inland jewel]

nom

thats the only hint

a very popular day in august

[deft obsidian]

Shit, I get it

[rancid nymph]

People really need to stop rule 2ing Pokémon

[west sonnet]

Like

We make the rule for a reason

If you want it so bad do it on your own time

[hearty skiff]

That's what I'm saying.

Like, there are other places for that 😭

[inland jewel]

won't stop people from trying to toe the line

which is why im not to worried if mons like Salazzle or Skuntank get in

sure people will try to go for that gross or sussy angle

but anything egrigious will be nuked on sight

[rancid nymph]

Why would Skuntank… you know what, I don’t want to know

[inland jewel]

at most it'll be like koffing's gas clouds around Skuntank fusions

[outer matrix]

tsareena would probably be included here, right?

[inland jewel]

yee

[hearty skiff]

TSAREENA!!!!!

so cool

[trail hull]

humanoids pokemon are very popular even outside of piff , tho some are too much popular for their own good

[sweet spoke]

tf lugia???

[tacit saddle]

LUGIA NOOO

[sweet spoke]

SKUNTANK?!?

WHAT

[trail hull]

yeah I don't how the hell lugia has so much creeps

[trail hull]

I'm curious to see that metric , I want to kno which mon got ruined

[sweet spoke]

Well you'll have to find it yourself probably

[sweet spoke]

I mean the guy that made lugia intended for them to be vaguely motherly in demeanour

that guy had a tragic as hell life I can't even lie

[trail hull]

yeah I kno< about lugia's creator and lugia supposed t o be a goddess

[hexed agate]

consider the fact that a Salazzle sprite already got rule 2'd

[sweet spoke]

im terrified of what those sprites even look like...

[velvet root]

Sadly I think I know the one

[inland jewel]

think about what makes skuntank noteable against other mons and then think of how people will Rule 2 it

hint: We have a fusion named a specific way and as included it via their alt sprite

[inland jewel]

its been 2 years since i last saw it iirc

[opaque flare]

mr wick
printer
stanlee
....

[inland jewel]

so its by far outdated now

especially since we got a new gen of mons that people could have rule 2

[marble meadow]

medicham team charm ref alt skuntank pokemon mystery dungeon ref maybe

once if i ever get a good pc i may want to learn spriting

[opaque flare]

you dont even need a good pc to make sprites

[marble meadow]

i see

[opaque flare]

#spriting-guidelines has all the infos you need to make sprites

[trail hull]

don't worry if your fusion is a little rough or bad we all started there at some point and #1050404143807873157 peoples give you feedbacks

[marble meadow]

k

[lilac frigate]

pancham should be in the game totally

[potent silo]

So, will they add more pokemon to the game, or its just it? No more than 501?

[tacit saddle]

there will likely be more

[potent silo]

Yeeeh

[marble meadow]

as a dark type ghost and psyic fan i agree and i still can wait for my fav malamar

[rancid nymph]

Somebody tell me why there’s no Malamar gifs

[opaque flare]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-james-team-rocket-pokemon-gif-25091008

theres inkay at least

[tacit saddle]

James!

[full bison]

I feel ya. I recall finding exactly one Mienshao gif.

[velvet root]

We likely have to wait a while tho

[opaque flare]

as of now we just think frog adds a few pokemon every year

and a troll fish of his choice

[full bison]

Were there this many people thinking the last batch added would be the absolute last batch of new Pokemon? Cause this is coming up more than I figured it would

[opaque flare]

people think because 500 was a round number ........ then frog trolled and added diancie

[marble meadow]

blacepholon for newyear/silvester

[opaque flare]

no, xurxitree

would laugh if next year choice were ultra beasts 😄

[tacit saddle]

i would cry. give me my bug boy

[opaque flare]

next year all ultra beasts will be added

[full bison]

I'm down for that. All of them are great additions, the only really awkward one being Celesteela

[outer matrix]

What about kartana body fusions though?

[opaque flare]

that was solved
origami

[tacit saddle]

they all give really unique shapes tbh

[trail hull]

tbh kartana head can lead to cooelr origami potential but body would still be fun

[opaque flare]

kartana body would end as wannabe stunfisk

flat 😄

[hushed axle]

I still like my stunfisk/Kartana sprite

[hexed agate]

Smh should've been Clippy

[hushed axle]

That’s the joke alt

[alpine rune]

Clippy should be porygon

[hushed axle]

Porygon/Kartana = Clippy

I like it

[sullen elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/malamar-laugh-inkay-pokemon-anime-gif-6716048103518857279

[rain locust]

puts the l in malamar

[silk narwhal]

what's up everybody

anyone here down to play gartic?

[molten loom]

probably would have more luck in #spriter-general

given the nature of gartic phone

[silk narwhal]

huh yeah

i've been using this chat as general since it was first created

[fathom ridge]

Everyone has

I will miss this chat when it is inevitablely nuked until the next new batch of mons

[silk narwhal]

i'm surprised it's still up

[outer matrix]

it'll probably go early next year whenever the update drops

[silk narwhal]

well 'll post the link here anyways

[opaque flare]

huh .. malicious scam link ... time to ping mods 😄

[eager jungle]

it's more an #off-topic thing

[opaque flare]

i summoned a mod without pinging ...... yeah, really time to leave ....

[silk narwhal]

what fucking scam link

[viscid fossil]

That's the point.

[molten loom]

It wasn't a scam link, they posted a link to garticphone and you're replying to the person who posted it

[eager jungle]

wasn't a scam

just something more fitting #off-topic rather than #pif-hoenn-discussion

[agile olive]

'metrics'

[agile olive]

some people are really overzealous about that, in another server I posted a reddit image link and the guy claimed it was malicious, but was ok with me posting the reddit thread, which hosted the same image ?!

[bitter comet]

I wonder when this chat will disappear

[hushed axle]

Probably a couple weeks after 6.3 drops

[inland jewel]

i give it like 3 weeks after 6.3 drops

like, on the date of dec-feb, the update will drop. and then 3 weeks from then channel disappears

[bitter comet]

Anyways, I hope there’s another reveal next year

[inland jewel]

so at the very most, this chat will exist until the end of march

[bitter comet]

And this time I will get Malamar

Or Meinshao

[inland jewel]

considering timeframes, Frogman has done reveals for August and Christmas (if we're in the new cycle)

Meinshao would be lit

I would love another fighting type

[bitter comet]

Agreed and Meinshao is just my favorite fighting type in general

[inland jewel]

i know meinshao is up there for favorite fighting types

i gotta review the entire roster just to confirm

[bitter comet]

I wonder if the goat people will get what they desire next reveal

[inland jewel]

considering goat didn't make top 5 this time around

[bitter comet]

Yeah, that’s true, but the goat people that exist are just like really hyped up about goats to the point where they just have little mini events just to make goats

[inland jewel]

i wont say that its impossible

but it is also known that the people who are in the discord AND frequent this channel are a minority

its as little as around 10-20% of the vote

[bitter comet]

Yeah, that is true

[inland jewel]

so you can assume that sine there is a lot of propganda and actions being taken to showcase a mon

in actuality its just the vocal minority

heck Spheal had a huge following this year and it too didn't make top 5

[bitter comet]

Anyways, I saw this cool Zebstrika alt that was for a rapidash fusion today and now I want it in the game a little bit

[inland jewel]

that looks more like Mudsdale then anything

[tacit saddle]

weird lookin zebstrika

[bitter comet]

Yeah, it was the wrong photo

#1311456140760059998 message

Here we are

[carmine iris]

[full bison]

It's going to be interesting seeing how the polls go during the next batch now that we're out of Pseudos to add

[proven blaze]

Do we know the new pokemon's encounter locations? How do we play test them?

(I have the beta, just dont know where they are in game.)

[alpine rune]

I don't like the goat so I told frog to not put it in the game

Source: Trust me

[alpine rune]

Tbh I just wanna see the overall poll results

I'm just curious how bad Oranguru got

Would be funny if it's just 4 points and that's from me

[ember bear]

was the first vote result ever been published anyway?

[wide merlin]

||maybe punkaboo are in a quest too ? haloween pokemon, quest in lavander town can to be a possibility ||

[brittle crow]

He stated the locations of where they are, not talking about where they could possibly be.

We alr know they aren't there.

[carmine iris]

if calyrex ever gets added would it have the ice and ghost rider forms to do as fusions

like, glastrier, spectrier, calyrex, ice rider, shadow rider taking a number each

[prisma olive]

aye can anyone help me get on the game

this is hella complicated

[eager jungle]

#tech-support

[prisma olive]

thx

[eager jungle]

there isn't kyurem w and kyurem b so i guess not

[carmine iris]

rip

[eager jungle]

and also

no gen 8+

soooo

....

[unkempt kernel]

I will riot for Yamper exclusively

[clear lichen]

Calyrex without rider forms instantly becomes the least liked legendary in the game due to terrible stats and, from what I can tell, generally disliked design

Terrible type too, Psychic/Grass, like a D tier and C tier type and together they're like probably in the top 10 worst type combos

Calyrex would be a perfect troll pick ngl

[ember bear]

worse celebi

[full bison]

I imagine Caly would probably be given the ability to learn Astral Barrage or Glacial Lance if it's fused with a Ghost or Ice type respectively if it was added, but I doubt there's too many Pokemon that would be super happy about being fused with a Psychic/Grass type in order to access them, let alone one that's slightly better statwise than Glalie.

[clear lichen]

Tbf, wasn't Kyurem added before more alt forms and stuff were being added?

Maybe Calyrex could get the shadow rider and ice rider forms if it were added

It won't be added though

So this is merely speculation

That said I doubt NDM or NDW will be added since it'd be adding new forms to an old mon, if they wanted to add them they'd have added Solgaleo and Lunala at the same time

So if Calyrex were to get its rider forms, we'd also be getting Spectrier and Glastrier

[carmine iris]

i headcanon glastrier is a very stupid pokemon so calyrex guides it in ice rider form to fight to its fullest potential, like dondozo and the sushi fish i forgot its name

or im lowkey coping that glastrier is in pu idk

[ember bear]

what being a slow ice does to a mf

it would have been funny if glastrier was the fast one instead

[full bison]

Funny thing is that if Spectrier was added, without the Rider forms being anything besides glorified Caly fusions, it would prefer being used as a Head fusion due to its insane SpA. Which brings up the amusing mental image of Caly being forced to lug around a massive ghost horse.

[hot hamlet]

...Technically ||Calyrex is in... as an alt of Celebi/Mew/Jirachi||

[spiral musk]

Thing is the calyrex and Kyurem forms are fusions and require another pokemon to exist, same with necrozma, ultra necrozma can stand alone (even though in USUM it needed solgaleo or lunala) bc it's the original form

[hearty skiff]

I JUST REALISED MY BOY VICTINI ISN'T IN PIF

[stoic canopy]

And hopefully never will. We don’t need the legendary Pikachu clone.

[hearty skiff]

Victini is great, wdym

[stoic canopy]

It’s a Pikachu clone, I think that sums up my feelings about it nicely

[hearty skiff]

I mean, you do you ig

I like it though.

Most "Pikachu clones" are honestly better than Pikachu itself tbh

Although Raichu is great.

[stoic canopy]

Ehhh better can be debatable, Mimikyu is fantastic though.

[hearty skiff]

MIMIKYU!!!

Glad we can agree on something.

I dunno, Pikachu to me just seemed a bit boring, but then again, I like Primeape, so....

[carmine iris]

i like victini

[hearty skiff]

Victini's so silly 🤗

I'm very biased since it was my first Mythical btw

Actually, thinking about it further, Victini is nothing like Pikachu. They don't even look that similar.

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-edits-discord-police-wtf-gif-19364455

[hearty skiff]

Damn, guess I'm full of bad opinions today lol

[bronze barn]

I actually agree with this

some of them are worse though

like minun and plusle

[hearty skiff]

Yeah

Pikachu only started to grow on me because I LOVE Raichu

[bronze barn]

most of them try to add another layer for pikachu

[bronze barn]

I like raichu

but I LOVE alolan raichu

peak pokemon design

[hearty skiff]

Alolan Raichu is cool, I just haven't played with it much tbh

[bronze barn]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-sleeping-raichu-alolan-raichu-gif-7407512776798283996

the eeper

[hearty skiff]

I mostly play Pokémon hacks or fangames

[bronze barn]

same

most fangames have like up to gen 7 mons these days though

I know a lot that got until gen 9 latest dlc too

[hearty skiff]

I'm going to try some newer Pokémon I think. I tend to use Gen V wayyy too much

[bronze barn]

I always try to use one more pokemon I never used before in each playthrough

it's a good rule of thumb for trying out new pokemon

[hearty skiff]

Sounds like a good idea actually, I'll probably try that from now on.

[stoic canopy]

I’ve adopted a rule for any new Pokémon game to not catch gen 1 Pokémon until I have 50 Pokémon in the dex.

[outer matrix]

There's always lots of Gen 1 pokemon obtainable in a mainline game

[proud lion]

I beggeth thine pardon

[stoic canopy]

Digimon

[deft obsidian]

first I heard victini is legendary pika clone

[hearty skiff]

They're nothing alike lol

[outer matrix]

victini is a rabbit

[hearty skiff]

That's as far as it goes

[deft obsidian]

Both have alien eye

But pikachu is fat

[hearty skiff]

With both of those I could argue Buneary is a pika clone lol

[proud lion]

Imagine an Ultra Necrozma/ Max Eternatus fusion

[hearty skiff]

Wonder if someone somewhere has made a sprite for that.

[proud lion]

Doesn’t mean I want it in game. Just saying imagine if someone made a sprite of it

[velvet root]

NOT a clone

[stoic canopy]

I know, it’s a Pokémon that makes fun of the concept of pika clones though. So in my mind, I’m counting it

[gray vine]

i do like mimyku but also dont like it

it fits in with pokemon who wear things, which i dont really enjoy cause of how weird they are

you gonna tell me they are just born with a pikachu cloak when the dex says they made it...even more it makes it sound like a unique one of a kind mon but its clearly not

[full bison]

Eternatus gets added to IF alongside Eternamax, but Eternamax and its Fusions only exist in the attack animation for Eternabeam

[gray vine]

would make sense

[full bison]

I wonder how the coding for that would even work though

[stoic canopy]

I do think they should start adding regional forms for Mimikyu that has it dress up as other popular Pokémon.

It’ll help with its uniqueness

[hearty skiff]

When it comes to Pokémon who wear things I try to just not think about it much.

[stoic canopy]

That or make the patchwork for the Pikachu outfit slightly different

[velvet root]

Pov Charizard Mimikyu

[gray vine]

Necrozma already transforms when he uses his attack

just do that then have them untransform after

[clear lichen]

Let him cook

Eternamax is not present in Eternabram stats wise

In fact, having Eternatus transform into Emax Eternatus for Eternabeam would be a nerf

Since the one stat Emax has that is lower than Eternatus is SpA

[zinc prairie]

@couragestar

Monthly check for this guy

[zinc prairie]

Pawmi was 3 steps up after all the bottom tier ones

I remember using Plusle on my HoF team in Emerald

[outer matrix]

he's still gone

[stoic canopy]

Pawmi gets points mostly because it remembered Pikachu was part of a 3 stage evolution line

[full bison]

Pikaclones as a whole are just meh to me. Credit to Pachi for actually trying to differentiate itself more than Pawmi, Dedenne, and Morpeko do

Emolga can go kick the rocks it's weak to for how obnoxious fighting it is. Stupid Double Team spammers.

[proud lion]

Elisa Moment

[carmine iris]

this is why zebstrika is the goat

[velvet root]

Did you say GOAT

https://tenor.com/view/goat-chill-cool-gif-13195049

#1213539303876206643 we even have a little event going on for the cool Goats on this server😎

[hushed axle]

Since MARCH?

[velvet root]

?

[bitter comet]

do you just appear whenever someone says goat?

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/skiddo-gif-5097658

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[marble meadow]

December or January release for update

[full bison]

Sometimes I wonder what the overall fandom would think about Gogoat if the promotional material didn't hype up a "riding Pokemon" gimmick with it, only for the Gogoat ride feature to only be available in Lumiose, and also was completely irrelevant cause you could just use the cabs.

[hushed axle]

Dec-Feb is best guesstimate. Only frog truly knows

[lilac frigate]

cant wait for pancham to be in the game

[molten loom]

well you have to wait

[lilac frigate]

I know its a figure of speeh

speech

[proud lion]

Who would you want the least in Infinite Fusion?

[unkempt kernel]

Gogoat

[proud lion]

For me: The Elemental Monkeys

[full bison]

Watchog

[proud lion]

||Ploy to add the monkeys into IF||

In all seriousness: Burmy

[molten loom]

hmm

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/zeraora-pokemon-ash-ketchum-furry-catfish-gif-19442986

[tacit saddle]

burmy. ass pokemon

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/burmy-pokemon-gif-19870995

[molten loom]

yeah burmy wouldn't do much

[unkempt kernel]

Monkeys are up there for me, Gogoat is there so Zero keeps asking

[tacit saddle]

hate burmy. hated burmy ever since PLA (first game i caught all pokemon)

[tacit saddle]

Disgusting creature

[molten loom]

PLA made me hate manaphy and cherubi

[full bison]

I would feel so bad for the spriters tasked to make 3 separate Wormadam body fusions that look distinct enough from each other

[proud lion]

Especially without its leaves

[unkempt kernel]

Burmy & Wormadam suck but that’s the price you pay for m o t h

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/burmy-pokemon-gif-19870996

[tacit saddle]

hmmm... good point. wouldnt mind the Moth in the game

[tacit saddle]

PUT THOSE BACK ON

[molten loom]

we already have a moth

[full bison]

We have Venomoth and Volcarona already, Mothim is the weak link there

[molten loom]

https://tenor.com/view/venomoth-pokemon-professor-oak-gif-26832004

[unkempt kernel]

I would prefer the pretty ice moth but we can’t have

[tacit saddle]

true 😔

FROSMOTH

[hearty skiff]

Venomoth is kinda underrated imo

I love it

[proud lion]

Heatmor thoughts if it got added?

https://tenor.com/view/heatmor-sweep-cook-picmix-pokemon-gif-4930347899798688199

[tacit saddle]

wouldnt mind it

[molten loom]

I don't care about it at all

[hearty skiff]

It's in the name, it'd be heat

[tacit saddle]

i think its a fairly unique look and shape

[gray vine]

its very cool

[unkempt kernel]

Heatmor is a alright addition, it’ll be like Torkoal for me, don’t hate but don’t mind it being added

[proud lion]

Durant tho?

https://tenor.com/view/durant-pokemon-gif-9807792

[molten loom]

same as heatmor

[proud lion]

It gets Truant as its hidden ability

[unkempt kernel]

Durant is low mid for me, don’t like it but it’s gotta be added at some point

And it makes sense to be added with heatmor

[full bison]

That gif is absolutely massive on my phone, but somehow tiny on my laptop

How does that work

[molten loom]

discord moment

[hearty skiff]

DURANT 🗣️🗣️ 🔥 🔥

if you can't tell I'm so biased towards gen V

[proud lion]

How about Aroumatisse?

https://tenor.com/view/aromatisse-perfume-monster-sassy-happy-laughing-gif-27404593

[hearty skiff]

Sure

It's one of the better Gen 6 pokemon

[proud lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1294912513753743411/aromateese.png?ex=674a0a81&is=6748b901&hm=51835c7bbb464c96e00f42ef7ef9a28334cfbc9f8e3599e622b8e168b4e4eaac&

[full bison]

Disgusting creature with incredible fusion potential

[hasty trail]

Is there anywhere to catch the new mons in a remix run?

[tacit saddle]

well you need to be on the beta first

so

[hasty trail]

Am on beta

[tacit saddle]

then you still have fake files

you need the role to have the official beta

[hasty trail]

That's why I joined the discord, just saw online that the ones from the website are fake

[full bison]

I really wanna see people do creative things with Musharna fusions

It's whole thing is dreams being made real, that opens the door to a lot of creativity

[tacit saddle]

well, if you want the new pokemon (at least the ones in game) youll need the beta role, which you can find in #roles

someone has the beta encounters list, im not sure who. and i'm not sure if remix has the encounters built in

[proud lion]

The monkeys should be radar exclusive in Viridian Forest

Kinda like how they were in the XY forest

[molten loom]

4 radar mons in Viridian forest would be crazy

[hollow plume]

just a reminder we still need this good boi

[gray vine]

eh

need is a strong word

[grizzled orchid]

idk if theyre in the game, not checking, but the ultra beasts would be fun

[proud lion]

No wormholes opened up in the game yet

For the beast brethren

[hollow plume]

Need is a word not strong enough

[proud lion]

Shiftry lines

[hollow plume]

we already have scary trees

we don't have a hyena

[brittle crow]

dont ping the guy who hates mightyena

[outer matrix]

~~ @ pory ~~

[alpine rune]

pory hates the wolf?

[eager jungle]

but, mightyena isn't a wolf

[alpine rune]

This is why i fail my biology classes

[wide merlin]

in mighthyena hyena was here and the hyena are a cousin from the wolf

[eager jungle]

but ... hyeana are more close to felines than dogs/wolf

[full bison]

Mightyena barely resembles a hyena anyway

[hazy fable]

its back sprite does

[stuck cave]

How can you hate Mightyena

Imagine hating Mightyena and it's literally vibing in the corner of the dex like

[hexed agate]

It's actually quite easy

[eager jungle]

mightyena design is alright/nice

but all the encounter with it are meh at best

[molten loom]

But imagine the edgy/emo sprites that could come with it

[eager jungle]

you mean like lycanroc night ?

[molten loom]

Yeah, but with black and grey palette

[eager jungle]

[velvet root]

I wouldnt advertise Mightyena for edgy/emo

[full bison]

I'm mostly just neutral towards mightyena. Maybe if it actually looked like the hyena its name gives lip service to I would like it more, but as is it's just there IMO

[molten loom]

Same, but I can see it going that way with the palette tbh

I just think it's a goofball really

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-kirlia-mightyena-hat-top-hat-gif-7788992338269665909

[velvet root]

I mean its supposed to be a brown hyena but grey
Its pretty close for that

Most people think of Spotted Hyenas or Striped ones I give you that

[silent acorn]

Hello Gamers

[velvet root]

hey

[outer matrix]

hello

[silent acorn]

So... Thread is alive

Means hunting season isn't over is it :V

[velvet root]

Kinda, its live support

[velvet root]

yesss

[silent acorn]

What we thinking for Christmas?

Cryogonal?

Cola Bear?

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/bambi-shouldve_licked_the_shooter-bambis_mom-goddamn-it-bambi-gif-7535144

[silent acorn]

Man i wish

[velvet root]

ik ik

[silent acorn]

Froggo is stingy with Unovan mons

But i understand

The Drip is too much

[velvet root]

Unova does have good ones tho

wtf

[outer matrix]

❓

what happened?

[velvet root]

A gif of a Cat with weird horror background

[trail hull]

I'm glad I missed it

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/elmowg-elmo-cat-elmeow-fire-cat-evil-cat-gif-16516012309062667418

When Purugly in IF

[fathom ridge]

next week, trust me my uncle works at PIF

[vague fog]

do we know when the fusiondex website will have the new pokemon?

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/never-harrypotter-angry-fire-no-gif-4751988

[velvet root]

it can be interesting tbh

[spiral musk]

probably when the next (non-beta) verion comes out

it was like that last year

[vague fog]

ah ok

been trying to get inspiration for team members, but it hasn't been easy

[marble meadow]

my ideas are a ludicollo slurpuff gourgeist and diancie only run after that i gonna do another mix team run

[vague fog]

diancie run is one i am considering. the pokemon go event for mega diancie put her a lot higher on my favorite pokemon like than before

[hollow plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H2GOrHl9oI

[fallow linden]

see all I want is my round buddy Spheal cause weeeee

[hollow plume]

spheal is cute but its evos are just, fatter dewgongs

[tacit saddle]

that's disingenuous

[hollow plume]

they're just not as interesting as spheal itself

[weak trellis]

like they're upgrades over dewgong but I don't think it's enough of one to super justify the three slots

[hollow plume]

personally i like dewgong better, its more elegant

[weak trellis]

especially since they're also waters which yea

dewgong I liked more before 6.0 (rip all of the icy fusions that are now water typed) but still good in its own right

[hollow plume]

personally though i'm waiting for mighters

[velvet root]

Nah they are better than dewgong
But Sealeo or what his name was is boring for fusions

[velvet root]

obv
You ever saw a Elegant Walruss?

https://tenor.com/view/animal-walrus-exercise-sit-up-zoo-gif-21112066

[hollow plume]

look at this good boi

[carmine iris]

Replace the image with actual art and ill agree

[hexed agate]

Hopefully Frog never sees this

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-charjabug-gif-8906028

[tacit saddle]

PPLEASASEEEE 🙏

[proud lion]

Dew it

[fathom ridge]

MY BELOVED

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/unfezant-pokemon-unfezant-male-pokemon-unfezant-appears-gif-4591314175660719852

[dusty arrow]

chat we are so back