pif-hoenn-discussion

[velvet root]

But enough from that game and back to pif

Soooo whos disliked Pokemon am I going to sprite next

[fathom ridge]

Uhh vikavolt I hate it

[velvet root]

Man I could never say that about Gogoat or so

[velvet root]

And you already got a Kitty

[fathom ridge]

I do hate dolliv with all my soul but you already did zeraora

[fathom ridge]

True

[fathom ridge]

Someone mentioned watchhog before #pif-hoenn-discussion message

[carmine iris]

i hate thundurus, but he isnt in the game

i mean tornadus

fuc

no its landorus

i forgot

one of them

the green one

[fathom ridge]

That’s actually what he was asking for, bad potential new mons

[gray stream]

that scared the shit outta me

[carmine iris]

we dont need the genies tbf

[velvet root]

Good

[velvet root]

welll

[carmine iris]

but lakitu reference could be cool

[velvet root]

You missed something

[fathom ridge]

Oh I didn’t even think of that

[sand mica]

This looks cool.

[velvet root]

I know I already send one

[fathom ridge]

Actually pretty cool

[velvet root]

Just cause a Pokemon is disliked or its base is bad doesnt mean it is bad

[acoustic compass]

I appreciate the sudden burst of inspiration, now for anyone to sprite

https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1307478516958494750

[velvet root]

I heard you LOVE Alomomola

[proud lion]

Water tribe

[velvet root]

Oh hell

[outer matrix]

The liepard one has a long nose

[velvet root]

I just notice the fucked placement of the shells

[proud lion]

Another aqua cat

[outer matrix]

That honestly looks alright 👍

[velvet root]

Let me look at my non if Water mons

[tacit saddle]

When do we get the gompt!!!

https://tenor.com/view/gogoat-pokemon-grass-goat-bharal-gif-26484000

[outer matrix]

Someday

[tacit saddle]

Yessss

[velvet root]

Idk but he dressed up fancy for the case

[tacit saddle]

YESSSS!!!! THIS IS PEAK!!!!!!!!

[velvet root]

Other Skiddos I made and love

[outer matrix]

Most of my non-if fusions have been with wooper, with a few meloettas as well

[tacit saddle]

VENIPE

DE

!!!!!!

have you made a Rayquaza skiddo/gogoat

[tacit saddle]

YES

[velvet root]

Gogoat/Rayquaza exist but @steel meadow made it

[tacit saddle]

[tacit saddle]

it's peak

man you gogoat spriters SELL it

[velvet root]

Funny enough I saw a good handfull of people who say all of us do shitty jobs and that Gogoat should never get in

[tacit saddle]

they were lying

[rancid nymph]

They’re just jealous of your superior artistic ability

[velvet root]

Got really mad at them
Its one thing to call my skills bad
But not when its about all the Goats who do theyr best for every Goat and are determined to continue
I rarely get in a fight that makes me insult people but some of them

[unkempt kernel]

Gogoat is cool but it feels like repeat of trevanent with the grass texture

[velvet root]

Sadly they got what they wanted
They said they see it as a win when Gogoat dont get in but Slurpuff and Diancie

[velvet root]

I mean Trevenant could be called repeat from Torterra too
You can do a lot with the diffrences they have

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah I’m not saying you can’t do something unique, I’m just burnt out from seeing that texture cus of trev

[velvet root]

Feel that

[velvet root]

Here have some other things than Grassy textures

[inland jewel]

watchog my beloved

i used him in Unova and then no game after him got him

[velvet root]

Thats sad

[rancid nymph]

Kalos

[inland jewel]

Route 15 👀 no wonder i could nver find him

[velvet root]

I searched for fanart of it and OMG

[inland jewel]

Watchog is a beloved pokemon, just the curse of route 1 mon

where they're only good in the early game

[velvet root]

That fun too
Lil Grumpy

[inland jewel]

Yet people hate him

[velvet root]

I think his main problem is that he is a lil stiff

[inland jewel]

But yeah, after Kalos he just doesn't show up in a regional dex

though with Legends ZA we could see him again

it just depends on which species imigrated to the region and which species emigrated out

[rancid nymph]

Come to think of it, is Watchog even on the switch

[velvet root]

We should have a Ground type watchog regional being a Meerkat

[inland jewel]

Another ground normal

he could go psychic with those psycho eyes

[velvet root]

you added the Normal

[inland jewel]

ah so you meant pure ground

[velvet root]

Yeah

[inland jewel]

i remember doing some research for Legends Arceus

Pokemon that moved from the Hisui and cannot be found in modern day sinnoh:

Rowlet, Oshawott, Cyndaquil. Paras, Stantler, Qwilfish, Kleavor (Adapted to an armored coating) Teddiursa, Goomy, Petilil, Spheal, Growlith, Basculin, Vulpix, Voltorb, Sneasler (Adapted to colder climates), Bermite, Zorua, Rufflet, The Weather Quad

Pokemon that moved into the Sinnoh region after Hisui formation

Girafarig, Houndoor, Goldeen, Meditite, Hoothoot, Wooper, Wingull, Azurill, Feebas, Swablu, Absol

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/a-foolish-miscalculation-michael-groth-mandjtv-you-thought-wrong-youre-mistaken-gif-17354121

You forgot Tropius

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/tropius-pokemon-gif-27432751

I call them fruit loop

[gray vine]

why

[hushed axle]

Because he has fruit on his neck

[outer matrix]

shelmet does lead into some interesting head fusions

[gray vine]

https://tenor.com/view/toucan-sam-froot-loops-cereal-toucan-bird-gif-16494682

[proud lion]

Imagine we get the Gothitelle line next year. Reminder that this character owns the baby form

[weak trellis]

slight addition but I think teddiursa can be found in BD/SPs underground but not in D/P/Pt? that looks right otherewise.

[inland jewel]

to be fair, all pokemon gens 1-4 are found in the underground

[weak trellis]

I think teddi was during the maingame but I could be wrong about that

[inland jewel]

im pretty sure the datamine doc has a list of what badges unlocked a pokemon

because for some rason Purugly unlocked 2 badges before Glameow

and was found before the route you could get glameow

[compact orbit]

Idk if anyone corrected you already but you forgot Farigiraf

[dark bone]

Oh whoops.
I did know about that, I just forgot to write it.

My brain thought it saw 6, so I put six.

[compact orbit]

It’s ok, I just wanted to give my long neck boi the respect he deserves

[hollow plume]

i wand my mighters damnit all

[clear lichen]

That raises a question, where did Enamorus go?

[sullen elbow]

Permanent vacation to the gen 10 region

[merry shale]

Who I want to see in a future update:
Makuhita, Hariyama line
Shroomish, Breloom line
Swablu, Altaria line
Sandile, Krokorok, Krookodile line
Not gonna list the Galar Pokemon as I think Infinite Fusion only goes up to Alola mons so I'm gonna end it here.

[opaque flare]

okay
3 lines are already in the game ....

[prime dust]

the only one in that list not already in is makuhita line

?tag pokedex

[opal trail]

All Gen1-2 Pokémon are in the game, and the Pokémon that are included from Gen3+ (aswell as their location and Pokédex number) can be found here:

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokédex

[prime dust]

and yes, anything past Gen 7 is highly likely to never be added

[inland jewel]

as i said, permanent hybernation. but then again she was recently found in Paldea (due to the transfer thing)

[inland jewel]

I too would love Hariyama, thick fat is so good

[trail hull]

Good news , krookorok line , altaria line and shroomish line are in the game

[prime dust]

already been answered by me and war

so

hands you the dingus hat

[opaque ether]

I feel your pain. Poochyena & Mightyena are the last two Pokemon I want for the game. Been championing for them for a while now. Hopefully they'll make the cut next time they start adding more new ones.

[inland jewel]

post game, and only a select few

you have to have done lake of rage and then Mt. Silver in that order

[opaque frigate]

any recommended thing to do in ss anne? gifted pokemon, items, etc

[inland jewel]

if you want early dex complitionist then the ss.anne has trades you can do

but in this game the ss-anne doesn't leave

so you can always come back

[opaque frigate]

oh ok

[carmine iris]

If u guys could guess, when would mudsdale get added to the game?

[tender plank]

i see a good argument for next year tbh, it's a pretty fun mon i think

but if i had to guess realistically, maybe 2026-27

i think i'd have fun spriting it

[full bison]

Solid design, Stamina access... Yeah I can see Mudsdale having a strong argument for being added sooner rather than later

[carmine iris]

thanks for opinions

[stoic canopy]

It’s weird that there’s only like 3 or 4 horse Pokémon in the game. And one of them start as a donkey.

There are more inanimate Pokémon than there are horses.

[brittle crow]

Change perspective

Change horse to big four legged animal

Which is essentially what a horse is and suddenly you have a lot of mons that fit the bill

Dogs, bulls, etc

[stoic canopy]

I mean, we play as a 10 year old in most of these games. Most things will be a big 4 legged animal to our character…although, if a Pokémon game let me ride a houndoom everywhere then it may be the greatest Pokémon game of all time.

[full bison]

Fun fact: if you're counting Zebstrika as a horse and saying Donkeys don't count, zebras are actually more closely related to donkeys than horses.

[stoic canopy]

I did know that. I was counting both forms of ponyta, mudsdale, and that horse mr. Big brain mounts.

[full bison]

I keep forgetting about the Crown Tundra horses. They just don't stand out that much aside from Spectrier being more OP than people expected and Glastrier being Slow Ice Type #50

[opaque flare]

kinda outdated, you dont need mt silver anymore

[velvet root]

Which Basculin looks better? Red or Blue?

[molten loom]

hmm

[full bison]

They're both meh to me to be honest

Maybe Blue?

[velvet root]

ah F it
I do something new for my dex

[molten loom]

would this one also be an option or not since its a regional form

[velvet root]

Hm who should I fuse 🤔

[velvet root]

I think not

Btw Watchog not too bad

[opaque flare]

snorlax and togepi 😄

[velvet root]

Already exist

[opaque flare]

and? what stops you making an alt?

[velvet root]

My dumb ass wanting to get unique shit that people are more likely to use it

[unkempt kernel]

Have you done anything with magmortar?

[opaque flare]

magmortar/togepi
fat ass hand cannon with an egg body xD

[velvet root]

Yes

[west sonnet]

no it’s gen 8

[unkempt kernel]

Damn

[molten loom]

meant for palette options

[velvet root]

I do a Nidoran male cuz I like those

[west sonnet]

I mean maybe?

[rancid nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/okay.-no-hard-feelings.but-i-hate-you.-chelsea-peretti-person-human-face-gif-1684414182131652097

The fish, not you Firesword

[hollow plume]

remember its not all about stats

we need awesome mons

[opaque ether]

Facts

[compact orbit]

Impressive work. I have an idea for a sprite if you want to do one

I forgot which way the fusions have to be ordered for one to be the body versus the features, but it’s between Toxapex and Goodra, and it’s just a bunch of jello in the shape of Toxapex

[gray stream]

moving onto the xurkitrees now beast enjoyers

[molten loom]

Octillery?

[gray stream]

yup. currently making it look more like octillery

[alpine rune]

Can we give it a bulb for the eyes?

I mean like light bulbs

[gray stream]

sure, ill try that

[quaint matrix]

MIGHTYENA NATION

WHERE YOU AT

(I know I have said Furfrou Nation before but you can hold multiple nationalities okay)

Two bad bitches can coexist together

[tacit saddle]

MIGHTYENA AND FURFROU 🙏

[acoustic compass]

Ou god Furfrou, would there be sprites for all of it's trims or just the shaggy 1?

[tacit saddle]

itd probably be like rotom

where the alternate appearances are just fusions

[quaint matrix]

Since the diff forms of Furfrou are just cosmetic

We're better gonna get used to shaggy untrimmed wet Furfrou

Which is all the same for me I love wet untrimmed Furfrou

[tacit saddle]

koffing/furfrou reference/j

[tacit saddle]

my boy is pissed!!!

[acoustic compass]

I was about to say, the difference trims being just fusions would open up a lot of creativity

[tacit saddle]

yeah but thats a lot of images

[acoustic compass]

But Gen 5 starters are just standing right there man!

I just want a Surperior fusion with Superpower & contrary that's all I want

[quaint matrix]

The world yearns for Close Combat bulky Contrary Serperior

[acoustic compass]

Grass/Fighting Serperior still having Contray as it's hidden ability for Legends ZA Let's go!!!

[full bison]

If only we could have the 8-9 Pokemon, then we could have had Contrary Revavroom Spin Out Sweeping

[acoustic compass]

In the words of Professor Farnsworth from Futurama,

" A man can dream....."

[quaint matrix]

Wait is it actually confirmed

[acoustic compass]

No! That was a Joke

[full bison]

The only news I know about ZA is that it's apparently mostly done already so all that hype about a longer dev cycle wasn't true

[acoustic compass]

I'm hoping for a physical attacker Grass/Steel Serperior for Legends AZ TBH.

[full bison]

I guess it means more bug testing, which would be great after ScarVi, but it's still a bit sad to hear

[acoustic compass]

I'm guessing that GF might be taking thier time with Gen 10, as it might line up with the 30th anniversary depending on witch year they settled for on it.

[outer matrix]

ZA news in the 2025 presents with a Gen 10 announcement would be funny

[full bison]

"we're releasing the Legends game and Gen 10 at the same time again because we have learned nothing"

[acoustic compass]

I unfortunately can see that happening given how fast those games are cranked out these days

[quaint matrix]

"And we don't need to learn any lessons because you motherfuckers will keep buying our main games anyway"

[acoustic compass]

Your not wrong & I hate that

[velvet root]

Even more when you start getting creative and creat your own

[acoustic compass]

I'd assumed that went without saying.

[next flare]

Exactly like Rotom, but with intention

I also vote for single Furfrou

[full bison]

Fur coat would be so fun to work with. I wonder how long it would last on the Showdown server before it got banned

[acoustic compass]

It depends on if players figure out what to fuse Furfru with, but still I expect Furcoat as an ability to not last long.

At least with Fluffy your have to have a fire weakness witch can be more harmful than helpful depending on what Beware is fused with.

[quaint matrix]

Furfrou/Cofagrigus

Furfrou/any Steel or Water type

[full bison]

Absolutely not Steel lol

Nobody's gonna want to carry around that x4 Fighting weakness

[quaint matrix]

Yeah but

A ton of resistances is pretty worth it

I guess Furfrou/Fire types

[acoustic compass]

If the Special Defense is at least competent then yeah

[velvet root]

Here have a suprisingly good looking Pokemon when its about fusing

[gray wharf]

what events do i miss out on if i have randomiser

[velvet root]

1. Wrong channel
2. Mainly trade events and getting the Pokeradar

But the Radar can be obtained with any abra tbf

[inland jewel]

consiering we don't have body press, i dont think its going to be that good

[full bison]

Pretty sure that Fur Coat was banned in Hackmon formats well before Body Press was even a twinkle in Gamefreaks eye.

[quaint matrix]

The biggest issue with Fur Coat is exactly the same issue with Huge/Pure Power (arguably nowadays even Speed Boost)

It's stuck on shitmons

But with IF Furfrou can actually make use of its insane defensive capabilities with types it can support (even if Normal in the large scale of things don't bring much to the table but still)

[sand mica]

⏳

[inland jewel]

Ghost Normal Fur Coat mon

[vague lodge]

So, what new Pokémon are coming out soon?

[vague lodge]

Aren’t these all already in the game?

Also, why will there be no Pokemon after gen 7?

[full bison]

1: only a handful of them are available in the beta, the rest are not in the game yet
2: Frog doesn't have easy access to the coding of Gen 8+ Pokemon, and would have to add them all far more manually. This would take way more time, and also be more prone to glitches.

Also if you have downloaded a version of the game that does have those, you may have downloaded a virus, seeing how you don't have the Beta tester role

[acoustic compass]

In other words it technically not impossible, but since Frog is a 1 man team don't count on it.

At least not anytime soon.

[full bison]

Also, there's like 300 Pokemon pre-gen 8 waiting to be added, so there's no shortage of options without 8-9 available

[opaque flare]

best chance is when all pokemon until gen7 bare added
which is estimated in around 9-10 years

[tacit saddle]

ill be in my 20s by then ehehe

[trail hull]

same

[acoustic compass]

I do believe that there are some Gen 8 & 9 mons, the ones without unique moves & unique abilities that could be added into IF without requiring too much time to program ,at least in theory I'm no programmer.

[trail hull]

yes but you do agree with me that they are mork corviknight fan then illumise

[full bison]

And I could simultaneously argue there's more Staraptor fans than fans of Eiscue, what's your point

[trail hull]

the point is that while they are 300 pokemons waiting , not all 300 are better then what gen 8 and beyond could give

[full bison]

And I'm saying that's debatable. 8-9 has some gems, I'm not denying that, but there's a lot of duds there too. Spidops, Eiscue, Greedent, Jugulis, Galar starters, etc. I'd go so far as to say the ratio is pretty even

[trail hull]

maybe

[fathom ridge]

I mean, eventually we will get to the bottom of the barrel of pre gen8 mons

[trail hull]

while I'll be happy with whatever gets added at one point it won't be to vote for the favorite but to vote for the less bad option

[trail hull]

actually no we won't cuz frog will have added them as joke

[fathom ridge]

I do think all gen1-7 mons should be added before the new mons tho

[fathom ridge]

I mean yeah but we get 10 cool mons for each 1 joke addition

[inland jewel]

the only gen 8-9 mons i'd want in before all of gen 3-7 is Espathra or Copperajah

maybe Hatterene but other than that gens 8-9 were pretty mid

[trail hull]

What I really want before all of gen 3-7 is the new cross-gen evolutions

[hot otter]

dive

[inland jewel]

they would be neat, but until Frogman decides if he want to do the work to put them in, we'll have to wait

since iirc, all the cross-gen evos requires certain items and moves

all of which he has to code in manually

not to mention their unique abillities which he also has to manually code as well

its much easier to do the gens 3-7 missing mon since EVERYTHING he needs for them is already in the game

[trail hull]

there was guy who was able to do all of that but frog apparently refused

[inland jewel]

he just needs to put them in a location and viola

his game, so he can decides if he wants that or not

doesn't help he hates gens 8-9 too

[fathom ridge]

Kingambit had a very weird evolution method also

[inland jewel]

that too, where can you reliably defeat 5 bisharps?

in PIF

[fathom ridge]

I wish we could get smoliv it also brings a tree Mon that isnt spooky

Revavroon could also be very cool as a head, and garganacl

[inland jewel]

we can wish all we want, but since he rejected the guy to code in gens 8-9 we'll have ot see what he has in store for us

nother thing to note is that updating games to get to the latest generation of mon is always a hassle,

[fathom ridge]

Eh I think we won’t ever get them but hey i can only hope

[inland jewel]

i remember abandoning 3 projects because a new pokemon gen came out so i scrapped whta i had and started over

[inland jewel]

yeah im not saying we won't ever get them, its just the grind to keep up with new mons is always not worth it in the long run

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if we will ever get PIF 2 in like 20 years or something

[inland jewel]

not from Frogman at least

[trail hull]

frog said he rather add to the current game

tho it would be great if we had an other game with the pif library

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if we could have a public library of sprites for fangames to use, the sprites in game right couldnt be used in a hypothetical sequel bc the spriter agreement is only for PIF

[inland jewel]

the thing that is stopping that is that spriters agreement only applies to PIF

any sequel made by others would have to have someoen hunt down all the artists and ask for perms

or just start fresh with sprites

[trail hull]

turn it into a fangame franchise and problem solved

[fathom ridge]

I think it would be cool to have a second gallery of sprites for fangames, we could just ask spriters in a bot channel if they are ok with that, although that only solves the problem for active spriters

[trail hull]

for people that abandoonned their unfinished sprite there is sprite salavage that could work (like since it was harvested to be change then it coudl technically be added to a sequel)

[fathom ridge]

I don’t think so? Like the new sprite would still be based on one made by someone who hasn’t given consent for it to be in something else than IF

[next flare]

Same philosophy as Minecraft

[carmine iris]

Yeah that perspective is better for this game i think

And its good that gen 8 and 9 is kept out of the game for the time being, and my two favourite pokemon are from gen 8

[prime dust]

also have to remember that the game went over 2 years with no new mons being added due to how fusions were handled

the fact that since 6.0 we've gone from 420 to being 501 next update is wild

[carmine iris]

Hope that means 582 update after that

[prime dust]

tbf that isn't all at once

6.0-6.2 we went from 420 to 470

[tacit saddle]

wasnt stunfisk 420th just because

[prime dust]

we don't quesiton frogs love of making the last mon he adds a phimsh

[tacit saddle]

i love frogs love of making the last mon he adds a phimsh

[west sonnet]

Praise be to Trollfish

What if trollfish triple

Stubruxdisc

What if I made it Now

[prime dust]

you're welcome to make a sprite, 0 guarantee it actually ends up in the game

[outer matrix]

each joke addition was a fish; how many fish pokemon are left?

[west sonnet]

Let’s be real if Frog was gonna add another triple it would be trollfish

[prime dust]

he'll likely add the kalos triple

[west sonnet]

aside from that one

[prime dust]

we have ones far older than trollfish the players want

[west sonnet]

this is about what frog wants

not us

I am simply destiny’s hand

[full bison]

If the fans had the triples they wanted, we would probably have a Gen 1 Eeveelution triple fusion while the other ones are left alone

The big one I want is probably the trash trio getting one

[carmine iris]

Beartic/ursaring/pangoro were the 2 stage bear trio

But ursaluna ruined it! >:(

[prime dust]

not really

[clear lichen]

Nah, it's foreshadowing for Pangoro evo in ZA and Beartic evo later down the line trust

[prime dust]

chances of gen 8+ is highly unlikely simply due to frog not wanting to effectively mini nuke the game

[carmine iris]

Im now hoping for a beartic abd pangoro evo

And*

[carmine iris]

This sounds like it could be true

Crazy foreshadowing on gamefreaks behalf if it happens

[full bison]

Can't wait for a Beartic evolution that becomes slower and bulkier like almost every other Ice type

And replaces Slush Rush and Swift Swim with Ice Body and Hydration

[weak trellis]

stats: +40 HP -10 attack, +35 defense +35 special defense -20 speed

"ice/rock shuckle and fire/electric deoxys-A this feels right." ~gamefreak probably

[full bison]

135/115/115 bulk might actually be enough to have an Ice type be an okay tank

Might

[dark bone]

Holy crap, I think I found something pretty dope on rain teams...

https://replay.pokeathlon.com/#replay=phoenixrising22-skeepodoop-1731987772408

Aegislash + Zapdos.
Steel/Flying with lightning rod has NO WEAKNESSES on rain teams, since its only other weakness (fire) is removed by the rain.

They got a lucky burn and it just kept going.

[inland jewel]

Love how viable it is due to perm weather

[quaint matrix]

Another day

Another Furfrou Nation slay

https://tenor.com/view/furfrou-spin-pokemon-3d-blender-gif-14368860368879760025

[worldly sail]

Sup guys

I want alomomola to get added

It is a peak design pokemon

Mainly Gigalith tho, I like it more

[clear lichen]

LET'S FUCKING GO GIGALITH MENTION

[full bison]

Gigalith would be cool

Mono Rock type with Sand Stream, so it won't be pulling a Ttar conundrum where you'd have to choose between the Rock type or superior physical stats

And just plain looks cool

[clear lichen]

Screw the stats and all that shit Gigalith isn't really a competitive staple anyways, Gigalith looks cool and fires mountain destroying solar beams

[tacit saddle]

gigalith would be peak

[clear lichen]

... If it has 60 SpA and blows up mountains with its Solar Beams...

... What would a Solar Beam from something like Skymin look like?

[full bison]

Funny thing is, if Gigalith was added, it would be one of the only Rock types in IF to actually get Power Gem. It's mostly distributed to random Pokemon that happen to have gem-adjacent things on their bodies. But not Aurorus for some reason.

[weak trellis]

I forget if power gem has always had more non-STAB users or if gen 7-9 changed that

I remember Mystic Fire had more non-stab users before the DLC in gen 8 lol

[full bison]

There's a decent amount of STAB users of Power Gem before Gen 8. It's just that most of them aren't in the game yet

[clear lichen]

Common Aurorus L, peaked with its design

(Why does Gamefreak hate it so much, it didn't even get Aurora Veil until a later gen)

[full bison]

Carbink and Diancie would mean we have a total of 5 Power Gem STAB users, the other three being Nosepass, Probopass, and Corsola

[clear lichen]

(Its species name is fucking AURORus)

[full bison]

You know, Pokemon with lots of gemstones in their design. Unlike Aurorus.🙃

[clear lichen]

Not to diss Aurorus since this it is a good number, but Gogoat has the same HP as Aurorus iirc

Fun fact: Aurorus doesn't get Aurora Veil in every generation except for 8

[full bison]

Poor Aurorus isn't even getting much of a break in IF. Snow Warning is a pain to get on it, and it can't take much advantage of its Ice type cause it's a secondary one while it wants to be a special attacker

[clear lichen]

Because that was when it first got Aurora Veil and then it never got into Gen 9

"Aurorus" my ass

[full bison]

So if you wanna use Aurorus, it's doomed to forever be a typical slow Ice type

Unless the types get reversed, which they should be

I don't care if the other fossils are all primary Rock, it makes way more sense for Aurorus to be Primary Ice

[clear lichen]

Imagine if Aurorus got Aurora Veil

That'd be so cool wouldn't it?

Well it does but one gen too late

Hey ykw if they give FUCKING SPORE TO WHIMSICOTT LMFAO

Surely they give Aurora Veil to Aurorus right?

[full bison]

Just like how Oricorio doesn't have Quiver Dance, but Aggron does.

[quaint matrix]

Fun fact: Omanyte used to be Water/Rock in its typing in old IF versions

And then it gets reverted to Rock/Water back

[clear lichen]

Like not only is Whimsicott fast enough to run Spore without Prankster for shit like Dark/Steel types

Or Dark/Poison

But you only would do that for like those few types

Because Fairy is SE against Dark

Guess who's a Fairy type?

Dark/Fire as well btw

I didn't mention that since I associate Steel and Poison more with defence

That said Fire is kinda ridiculous defensively

6 resists and they're actually good ones

Ignore your 3 weaknesses being crippling as shit

[quaint matrix]

I say its still a win to be able to be really defensively good even if your three weaknesses haunts you

[clear lichen]

cough cough Steel

[quaint matrix]

It's a bit of a Steel-lite in a way

Yeah exactly

Steel still rocks the meta even if its weak to three of the most common types ever

[clear lichen]

It's a bit more questionable if one of the types is a quad Rock weakness like Bug/Fire

But I mean those resistances though

[quaint matrix]

Dual-type Fire carries some risks yeah but it is what it is lol

[clear lichen]

I'm sure HDB got my back

[quaint matrix]

Just like if you're a type dual-typing with Ice you're getting fucked defensively no matter what

[clear lichen]

dies because is playing IF

Unironically though I think HDB turned some previously less revered types like Fire/Flying and Fire/Bug into godsends

Well not quite godsends

But a shitload better

Some of the mons with those types didn't really need it tbf, think Volcarona and Ho-Oh, 2 excellent mons for their respective high tiers

[full bison]

Thankfully Rock is still stuck with garbage STAB

If Mighty Cleave got better distribution, Volc would probably start sweating a bit

[clear lichen]

Simply play around it fr

It had to do so for Stealth Rocks in the pre HDB era I'm sure it can do it here too

Surely

[quaint matrix]

Imagine if Accelerock isn't stuck being Lycanroc exclusive

[full bison]

Rock really is experiencing a similar level of BS that Phys Electric types are, huh

Stuck with awful STAB moves while all the good ones are signatures

At least the Rock moves don't kill the users, but missing arguably screws you over harder

[stoic canopy]

I’d take a double edge like move for rock any day. Rock tends to have the defense to live through the return fire.

[full bison]

Rock has a better Double Edge. Head Smash. It just has awful distribution

[clear lichen]

20 Accuracy for 30 Power, I'd say it's debatable

30 Power is a lot of power though

Think about how many damage thresholds you pass with that

It's not quite something like Dire Claw vs Gunk Shot

But Dire Claw has massive hax

So ykw comparable enough

That said, 80 BP can be quite disappointing

And 120 BP definitely isn't

[weak trellis]

anything with less than 100% accuracy had better really justify itself or have some way to make up for it like compoundeyes or stomping tantrum

[rain locust]

many of them justify themselves easily by having higher bp

also tantrum is bad

[full bison]

And then there's Play Rough, which justifies itself by being the only option available lol

[rain locust]

distribute magical torque fr

[west sonnet]

excuse you

there was hit Z Move twinkle tackle

[weak trellis]

grimmsnarl and iron valiant win again

[clear lichen]

Spirit Break feels a bit too weak to me

[rain locust]

naw spirit break is laughably weak

[clear lichen]

Yeah 75 BP

[west sonnet]

Spirit break has a niche

[clear lichen]

That's Elemental Punch BP

Sad, sad move

[west sonnet]

It’s really Really good for tera raids/long fights

[clear lichen]

Trust me, if Iron Valiant uses a Fairy move, its opponent is either dead in this turn or the next, and if not, it is swapping out very quickly

[west sonnet]

Not in Tera Raids

definitionally

[clear lichen]

Idk, I probably wouldn't Iron Val in any tera raid

74/90/60 bulk is a bit sad

[west sonnet]

It works well for some typings

usually dragon tera on a special attacking special defensive

[clear lichen]

It's boutta get slammed by a neutral move that's for sure

Unless its opponent is like uhhhh

Shuckle

Does Shuckle even learn a neutral move?

Both STABs are resisted and Shuckle doesn't have a great offensive movepool

(Gee, I wonder why)

[clear lichen]

If you're using it against Dragon Tera you'd better pray it is a physical attacker

That special bulk is just

Sad

[eager jungle]

[west sonnet]

Yeah but spirit break lowers spa is my point

[clear lichen]

-1 isn't saving it I'm afraid

What is 74/60

[rain locust]

simply use moonblast instead

[west sonnet]

Usually gets to -3

[clear lichen]

Hey ykw, it's probably better than the 90 Defence with no stat drop

You're getting sent into another dimension anyways

And the boss will heal its stat drop while you're dead

Maybe for like a lower star raid it could work

[ember bear]

why worry about bulk? just kill the boss fast

[clear lichen]

Frfr (My Kyogre just did jack shit with a Water Spout)

(I can't even do the funny Specs Water Spout because of how much the raid pokemon doesn't want to die why'd you do this to me game)

(Why can't they just be normal like bro this fucking water weak frail mon should've gotten evaporated)

(Tera raids are the hardest battle in Pokemon frfr)

(I'm only half joking honestly but tbf it heavily depends on how much the game hates you)

(And games HATE me)

[weak trellis]

iron val might be serviceable for drain punch? there are better users though unless you want either /fairy or spirit break for support debuffin

[stoic canopy]

The strategy always seemed to be iron hands+belly drum+ drain punch. At least starting out.

[full bison]

I stopped bothering with stat buffs in raids considering every single one immediately pulls out the "all stat buffs were reverted!" BS

[prime dust]

#other-pokemon-games for that stuff

[marble meadow]

i Hope at Winter or next year I can start some runs with some new mons in if

[gray vine]

you already could

[late minnow]

add chattot pwz

[prime dust]

no

i think frog is done adding mons for this year

especially since 6.3 might not even release this year

[late minnow]

i c

[hot hamlet]

Besides, Chatot would be the kind of troll addition given out to the artists at the end of a new batch. A slot currently being filled by Luvdisc (and Bruxish before it)

[late minnow]

i just like chatot XD

[prime dust]

frog is running out of phimsh for that

[unkempt kernel]

We still have luvdisc2 and the useless green one

[outer matrix]

fishes not in IF currently:

• whiscash
• relicanth
• finneon
• basculin
• alomomola
• wishiwashi

[unkempt kernel]

Feesh

[outer matrix]

would you all count tynamo for this list?

[hot hamlet]

Define green one.
Do you mean red/blue stripe?

[unkempt kernel]

Ye I meant basculin

[unkempt kernel]

It’s an eel, eel are fish iirc

[full bison]

People actually want Wishiwashi and Relicanth tho

[hot hamlet]

Tynamo is cool. Not a troll mon

[outer matrix]

The list is a general one

[viscid fossil]

Mono electric levitate is less special in this game but still cool

[quaint matrix]

GF out here making more Fairy types than Ice types but somehow still don't bother expanding physical Fairy-type moves

[clear lichen]

Play Rough being aggressively mid is not justified by being the only option

I cant tell if Spirit Break is as mid or somehow worse

But you sure as hell are not catching Iron Valiant using Spirit Break at least

Bro would rather run CC/Knock Off lmao

Or Moonblast/Shadow Ball

Not an impressive showing

Well the lack of good STAB moves I mean

Not as in the performance of the mon itself

[quaint matrix]

So insane that Play Rough is still the only Physical option three gens in

Even Moonblast at least got a sorta-kinda lite replacement with Dazzling Gleam or whatever

[full bison]

It will never not vex me that there's less Ice types than the type that was introduced halfway into the series lifespan when it's been there from the beginning

[weak trellis]

see also: poison

oh I misread that lol

I read that as "less ice types in the current gens than there were in gens 1-2"

since I know that was true with poison where it took until gen 8 or 9 for every other gen to collectively catch up to how many poison types gen 1 had

[clear lichen]

I'm pretty sure there would be more ice types from recent gens too

Though maybe that's just because Gamefreak stopped making slow defensive ice types do that the ice types weren't just inoptimal as hell

Correction, Gamefreak stopped making ONLY slow defensive ice types

[weak trellis]

yea since at their core every ice type basically wants deoxys-A's stat spread in terms of the role it has on the battlefield

with weavile coming the closest to actually accomplishing it

while GF sees shuckle or, well, glastrier as The Peak Ice Type in terms of the type's build which is yea

[clear lichen]

3 fucking banned Ice types
"Holy shit"

• Comp Players probably

[weak trellis]

that or making ice types defensive through gimmicks without the one thing that actually makes them defensive: resistances

[clear lichen]

In one gen to clarify

They already started leaning into broken offensive ice types last gen at least somewhat

With G-Darm

Then we got He whose name must not be abbreviated, Delibird but it woke up on the wrong side of the time machine and the most broken Pseudo Legendary excluding like Mega Mence I guess

Also Mega Metagross I feel

But I'm not even 100% certain on that

So don't quote me

[full bison]

Imagine telling a Gen 4 competitive player that Garchomp would be too weak for OU but there's 3 non-legendary Ice types in Ubers

[clear lichen]

Chien-Pao is definitely very legendary

Unless you mean G-Darm but it technically doesn't exist rn

So shh

Chien-Pao isn't even portrayed as just some very exotic species

It's a straight up living natural disaster

A bunch of emotions so fucking shit they just manifest a being of pure destruction

[viscid fossil]

I mean, can garchomp compete with a good ice type?

[clear lichen]

The good Ice types got kicked to Ubers

Including Regieleki

Because they were a bit too good

Well, except for debatably Kyurem

But Kyurem is a figure of controversy

So let's not talk too in depth about Kyurem

[full bison]

There's always Yache Berry and Rock Miss, but that's not a reliable matchup

[viscid fossil]

that deals with one ice type
there are three

[clear lichen]

There is one

[full bison]

You said a good Ice type

[clear lichen]

But it is also a Dragon type so it doesn't fucking matter

Actually

Yache Berry isn't even saving it bro

This is Kyurem here

Bro's boutta pull the nastiest specs ice move in the history of mankind

Or boutta land the 5 hit Icicle Spear (the dice was loaded)

Does Garchomp OHKO Kyurem without Band?

Like maybe with Outrage or something?

252 Atk Garchomp Scale Shot (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kyurem: 360-432 (92 - 110.4%) -- approx. 56.3% chance to OHKO
Even better

Loaded Dice W

Simply don't miss

And dodge if you do

[carmine iris]

What tier would glastrier be with steel type

[hexed agate]

if you're talking as a fusion, mach punch tier

[ember bear]

i don't think you would even need mach punch, just outspeed

[hexed agate]

true, but saying something gets machpunch diffed just has a ring to it

also just found out that Hitmontop and Ferrothorn have the same atk stat

[carmine iris]

Smogon tier

[hexed agate]

probably stay where it is in PU, or stop being used

ice really hinders it

if you meant it dropping its ice type, probs RU/NU

depending on what type is dominating RU atm

[full bison]

Yeah, Glastrier doesn't really have a lot that it can actually do once it tanks. It has no recovery and not the best support moveset

If you wanna see an Ice type that would become a defensive behemoth if it became Steel type, look at Avalugg

Rapid Spin and Recover would make it a reliable hazard removal option, and it even carries Crunch to potentially scare away Ghold's spinblocking (although it absolutely would not be able to eat a Make it Rain)

[carmine iris]

I have a lot of experience using glastrier

It essentially turns the match into a 5 vs 5 instead of 6 v 6

Slow speed stat with arguably the #1 bulky offensive stats elsewhere with no healing moves allows it to 2hko everything

But with no heal moves all sorts of shit outspeeds it and kills it after glastrier gets down to 30% health against an opponent it killed since it checks literally everything, but is only good in a 1v1 because of all that

[carmine iris]

Yea

I wouldve guessed UU or smth

Since melmetal is essentially steel glastrier afaik

And melmetal is in uu (i think)

[clear lichen]

Melmetal is like what, UUBL on Gen 8 or something? Or was it Gen 8 NatDex? It's mostly OU placements though

It was banned to Ubers in Gen 9 NatDex until recently

Thing is, Melmetal has a 120 BP STAB move boosted (not by much though lmao) by Iron Fist

[carmine iris]

Oh yea true

[clear lichen]

The best Glastrier's got is 85 with a chance to miss

Funnily enough they both are stated to have a 30% flinch rate

Except DiB is 60 BP and hits twice

So it's closer to 50%

Not quite 60% because that's simply how math works in situations like this

I feel like I usually wouldn't state this but I've had people correcting me it has a 60% flinch rate

[carmine iris]

Tbf glastrier could run avalanche, where if the user takes damage first the base power goes from 60 to 120

But still

Melmetal > hypothetical steel type glastrier. :(

[clear lichen]

Avalanche is sad because when the wall clicks Recover you can't do shit

[carmine iris]

Yeaaa

[clear lichen]

The slow bulky lifestyle simply isn't for the Ice type

Just go "fuck it we ball" and kill everything before it kills you

[carmine iris]

Shouldve made glastrier have spectriers stat except physical

And like

Most other ice types whose stats cant easily be assumed by their designs

[weak trellis]

all offense all speed no defense

[hexed agate]

How to use Glastrier:

1. Tera

[carmine iris]

[full bison]

I love how the best option available to defensive Ice types is to stop being Ice type. And then there's Regieleki like "this is how you use the Ice type, you idiots."

[ember bear]

regice if he locked in

[weak trellis]

GF be like "you see you set up snow and then you set up aurora veil and you're set!"
"well I got hit by two flamethrowers and died mid-way through the process. can I just have A-tales set up both in one turn?"
"I don't see why not?"
"thanks! switches to something very not ice typed next turn*

[lean frigate]

OK i love IF and it's killing me that my favorite starter is not there. Meet my boy Rowlet

i don't know if that was the good channel to talk about this

[stoic canopy]

I mean I think this is the channel talk about that. Recently though it’s became “general but less AI images and no one asks how to download the game”

[molten loom]

Pretty sure I've seen at least 2 people ask how to download in this channel

[ember bear]

it's pretty much because the announced pokemon are over for now

[west sonnet]

the tech support is everywhere

[full bison]

Rowlet will probably be getting added before the Gen 5 starters at this rate, so you've got that

[stoic canopy]

Except tech support, funnily enough

[west sonnet]

Look they let me out of my cage for 5 minutes every day let me have this

[molten loom]

True, like this example

[full bison]

I wouldn't be surprised if tons of people on this server have the bot commands for Sprite Repo saved to their clipboard for ease of access with how much I've seen people ask about it on most servers

[west sonnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/302153478556352513/1288202605096472618/GitLab.gif

Quickdraw

[trail hull]

why are my sprite looking lik- the sprite repository is currently down

[stoic canopy]

Reading is hard, checking pin comments in downloads or tech support is harder.

[magic veldt]

Is Lycanroc-Dusk ever planned to be added? (If this question is banned in the FAQ, my b)

I don't see an FAQ so I'm asking

[brittle crow]

not happenin

[full bison]

Frog has no plans of that, cause Dusk looks near identical to Midday

[cedar path]

frog doesnt like dusk so unlikely

if done at all it'll be way later

[rain locust]

replace day with dusk

[stoic canopy]

Also isn’t dusk basically day and night already fused?

[viscid fossil]

Statwise dusk just moves 2 points of day's speed into attack
The only meaningful difference is tough claws

[west sonnet]

And it makes for a really bad body fusion

just uselessly bad

[ember bear]

bad body?

[unkempt kernel]

It’s just midday’s body

[ember bear]

which isn't bad statwise

unless they were talking about sprites

idk

[unkempt kernel]

Most likely

[west sonnet]

As an artist it’s dog shit

And yes I’m tech support and a spriter

[eager jungle]

well, it's a dog

[west sonnet]

Do you think I have time to play the game

[ember bear]

fair ig

[magic veldt]

Yeah that's why I wanted it 😔

[west sonnet]

The most I play the game is using Metronome 1000+ times to test the crash

[magic veldt]

What does that 135/500 mean?

[west sonnet]

the number of sprites out of 500 I’ve made

[magic veldt]

Oh sick!

[west sonnet]

We have roles that denote 100,500, and 1000 sprites made

[velvet root]

Greetings

[west sonnet]

As well as every 50 you make of one pokemon

[hushed axle]

Kabuto

[west sonnet]

it’s true!

[velvet root]

small random question
You guys got a good name for a Female and Male rhino 👀

[hushed axle]

I’m gonna do an all Kabuto run, just for you

[west sonnet]

✨💖

[hushed axle]

Male rhinos I name Rhinox cause nerd

[west sonnet]

I’m probably gonna do another Kabuto/Amaura sprint to round out my next two pokefans

[velvet root]

thx for that one

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-rhinox-transform-beast-wars-transformers-robot-gif-10884482628960257542

[compact orbit]

What on gods green earth did I just witness?

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-beast-wars-rhinox-autobot-it-works-gif-17855868321189041095

[stoic canopy]

What is this and why does it look familiar?…did this show have a rat guy? And a spider lady? It wasn’t transformers? At least I don’t think so?

[unkempt kernel]

It is

It’s transformers beast wars

Also yes it did have a rat and a spider lady

And Optimus is a monkey in the show

[hushed axle]

[stoic canopy]

I think I only saw like one episode of this ever. I think something happened and the rat guy and the spider lady was with maybe Optimus after like everyone else was like dead or something? I had to have been like five or six at the time so I basically just don’t remember anything about it. I think the rat betrayed the other 2 for something?

[unkempt kernel]

That could be beast machines

Which is the sequel

[hot hamlet]

I read Rhinox and thought of the Spyro Rynocs instead. What kind of nerd does that make me?

[weak trellis]

a playstation one?

[hot hamlet]

Yes

[worldly sail]

Come on guys, we need vikavolt in da game

[wide merlin]

vikavolt wait , salazzle are important to be added in the game from the alola dex

[white meadow]

put malware in the next update please

[wide merlin]

malware ?

[white meadow]

I think the community has been wanting it for awhile

[opaque flare]

if you want malware, download from the "official" website which isnt supported, distributed nor developped by us

[velvet root]

I think he means Malamar or how its called

[opaque flare]

stupid autocorrect moment 😄

[hot hamlet]

Or Malware from Ben 10

[velvet root]

Maybe

[hot hamlet]

Welp. I'm off to sleep

[prime dust]

not the channel for this

[inland jewel]

it was today that i learned that abilities weren't in the game till V4.1

[cedar path]

oh neat

[topaz kernel]

what stuffs been being added

[prime dust]

mon wise #pif-hoenn-discussion message

outside that, the full character customization stuff

[topaz kernel]

gah its all mid

[prime dust]

general bug fixes

[topaz kernel]

remind me never to do a lotad fusion

i will be banned

[trail hull]

I dunno new pokemon stil lseems a coll thing

[topaz kernel]

they do but nothing special pokes wise

is archen or froakie in yet

they what im waiting for

[trail hull]

archen is not in this batch tho in the list sent there is froakie

[topaz kernel]

i need archen 😔

favorite 2 pokemon right there 🙏

fennekin line will be nice

[fathom ridge]

We will probably get another batch of new mons (not sure tho) maybe archen will get in then

[tacit saddle]

we'll definitely keep getting mons

archen is a fossil, so it has a fairly high chance

special pokemon and whatnot

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if frog will have a christmas present

[trail hull]

also time for a sprite bilan (I stole the list from modrid so... thanks for the time save)

Jangmo-o:125
Hakamo-o:72
Kommo-o:150
Wimpod:80
Golispod:145
Formantis:90
Lurantis:240
Carbink:483
Chespin:122
Quilladin:73
Chesnaught:115
Fennekin:123
Braxien:130
Delphox:246
Froakie:86
Frogadier:55
Greninja:148
Torkoal:192
Pumpkaboo:239
Gourgeist:274
Swirlix:218
Slurpuff:377
Scraggy:74
Scrafty:105
Lotad:86
Lombre:80
Ludicolo:79
Minior - Meteor Form:129
Minior - Core Form:200
Diancie:227
Luvdisc:158

From this we see a lot of thing , such as kommo-o being one of the lowest fullly evolved pokemons
In conclusion community pick is bad , let the spriter choose

[tacit saddle]

i kind of doubt it, but maybe

[trail hull]

lasty year brought rage , are you sure you want one?

[fathom ridge]

Cresselia?

[trail hull]

no it came after , it was bruxish

[fathom ridge]

Oh thats based

[prime dust]

i'd rather he skip the christmas gift

and do something for the anniversary

besides, we already have the troll fish on the list this time around

[full bison]

Christmas present Abomasnow so we get 13 Grass types in the update

[hallow talon]

Christmas present 2024: Frog wishes us a merry christmas

[opaque flare]

||and deletes pokemon infinite fusion||

[turbid cosmos]

Y’all are telling me that we’re getting Lombre and Scrafty next! Those are some of my favorites!

[full bison]

Scrafty is probably my favorite addition this cycle. We didn't really have that much access to the punk look beforehand, and now Scrafty allows the creation of some top tier punk fusions. Also it has good abilities, so it's pretty useful

[hot hamlet]

Announces Infinite Fusion 2. A brand new game in Hoenn and Sinnoh that is just barely out of pre-alpha, thus having none of the QOL stuff that came in later versions of this... and discontinues PIF 1 at the same time.

[stoic canopy]

Yaaaaayyyy…water routes everywhere…my favorite

[full bison]

And still no Gen 8-9 mons

[hot hamlet]

Nah he's saving that for when people start clamoring for Gen15

[velvet root]

9.2.5? What changed?

[opaque flare]

sinnoh update, hoenn update, unova update caused many bugs and errors so it was reversed

and gardevoir, lopunny and greninja were sent to trash

[full bison]

Gardevoir and Lopunny getting removed would be hilarious just to watch how the channels blow up in response to it. The discourse would be glorious

[wide merlin]

i don' tcare about greninja but loppuny are one of pokemon of normal type than i use and gardevoir are strong so it's a problem to remove this two pokemon

[humble lance]

i think ribbon would be devastated if gardevoir got axed
and i would be too if lopunny got axed
i made so many cool lopunny sprotes

all my cool bnuuys

[opaque flare]

the entei one looks good

[humble lance]

entei

[shadow kiln]

Suicune wasn't it

[opaque flare]

or suicune ... cant really differ the 3 beasts in fusions ..

[humble lance]

lol

[full bison]

I definitely would be more upset that Garde and Lop were gone, I just think the arguing between their fans and antis would be funny. I've seen people get really heated about those 2

[shadow kiln]

I would be upset if any mon got removed honestly.

People get a bit too involved over some designs.

[opaque flare]

no one would be sad if luvdisc was gone

[hushed axle]

I love the lopunny fusions, the artwork is amazing. I just wish people didn’t rule2 lopunny

[shadow kiln]

How dare you?

[velvet root]

In many ways actually

[hushed axle]

[velvet root]

Nah Luvdisc is pretty cool

[shadow kiln]

I think Luvdisc has a great chance to recreate newer mons with flat heads and do other such stuff with trying to make recognizeable patterns in a mostly flat mon, but Ik people will just recolor the little heart.

How was the gen 8 dragon one called?

[full bison]

Dragapult?

[shadow kiln]

Yeahhh

[opaque flare]

we have stunfisk already

[shadow kiln]

Instead of a stealth plane head it's a sideways luvdisc.

[humble lance]

woe fosh be upon ye

[shadow kiln]

Meh, it's not the same at all just because it lays flat.

[shadow kiln]

See? It's looking good.

Also chance for a subnautica peeper.

https://tenor.com/view/peeper-flag-subnautica-gif-8508700132020563377

[full bison]

I don't even know what one would combine with Luvdisc to get that. Maybe Unown cause of the big eye?

[opaque flare]

unown head, luvdisc body

tho, magikarp or feebas would fit better

[shadow kiln]

There's another one but I don't recall the name

[hushed axle]

?tag feesh

[opal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245396302427062282/1291528737376047154/from-kanto-to-your-table-the-best-sushi-in-the-johto-region-v0-4eu46720g6891.webp?ex=67006d5e&is=66ff1bde&hm=882b7622a5c23cded595c74a76211759a186d96ec783fb68918210bada10caab&

[shadow kiln]

The bladderfish.

Tell me it's not perfect.

[wide merlin]

it's from spore that

[shadow kiln]

Subnautica.

[west sonnet]

Idk I worked hard on those

[humble lance]

im gonna keep making pride flag luvdisc and no one can stop me

[shadow kiln]

I would be concerned if they did.

[humble lance]

[hushed axle]

Sylveon/Luvdisc when

[west sonnet]

At this point two of my best sprites are Luvdisc

[earnest mortar]

is the website ok because when is the update?

[hushed axle]

We don’t have a website

[earnest mortar]

the one that they said was down

[west sonnet]

oh the sprite repo

[full bison]

There's a new repo being tested out in the beta

[earnest mortar]

k, just wondering because I wanna play with the Fenniken line when it's up

the game itself that is

[full bison]

Good news, you can apply for the beta tester role and get access to it there

[hushed axle]

There will be an #announcements once the update comes out

[earnest mortar]

how do I get that?

[opaque flare]

#roles

react to the last message

[hushed axle]

(Only on pc)

Beta isn’t meant for anything else

[hardy bison]

im getting impatient guys i need update

😔

[earnest mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ditto-dance-gif-9953498

[opaque flare]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ditto-game-screen-nintendo-8bit-gif-5679561

[earnest mortar]

should there be a new triple fusion since there is new starters?

[molten loom]

Yes there is one

[ripe wigeon]

Currently it’s not obtainable tho

[hot hamlet]

Not even if you get all three in one game?

[brittle crow]

It gives you a pikachu

[ripe wigeon]

it’s a pikachu egg for now

[hot hamlet]

Huh

Shame

[alpine rune]

Wtf is this fever dream

[opal trail]

warmaker is AFK: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/874246149098332163/1300194782483841065/void.png?ex=6740e9c0&is=673f9840&hm=50eb9b423a8fe05bc60110e14ead89e8397a0e1a40c22c2232ab08ef1bf3e58c& - 9 hours ago

[alpine rune]

... How the fuck did you obtain the AFK command?!

[opaque flare]

afk command isnt locked

[hushed axle]

It’s a slash command I’m p sure

[marble meadow]

I think December will be the update

[opal trail]

@trail hull I set your AFK: AFK

[trail hull]

Oh it works

I think I can even set it for others

[kind forum]

huh?

[trail hull]

Sorry turns out it’s just myself , I thought I could do it for others cuz the mentions list was open

[opal trail]

@opaque flare I set your AFK: bug @trail hull instead :D

[opaque flare]

^^ how to ping other people while they ping you 😄

[kind forum]

out of interest, how many commands can you see for the afk commands?

[kind forum]

i didnt configure this, but if you can see all of them i may need to look 😛

[tacit saddle]

ive had this issue before where members could see admin slash commands but i think it just gave an error

(and i just checked, i can see them too)

[kind forum]

yeah they error our apprently if you use the mod commands as non mods

learn something new every day

[eager jungle]

i can see them too

[kind forum]

thanks, i never wouldve guessed

[trail hull]

I can see all of them

[kind forum]

yeah its fine, turns out you can't run the important ones anyway 😛

[marble meadow]

anyway hope things go swimmingly to have an December release

[kind forum]

"important" ||3 people in the server use afk||

[trail hull]

I Hope you meant can’t and not can

[kind forum]

i did xD

working, bad multitasking

[trail hull]

Lmao

[opal trail]

@rain locust I set your AFK: the

[rain locust]

🤯

[viscid fossil]

The

[opal trail]

anaconja is AFK: the - 33 minutes ago

[rain locust]

the

🤯

[opaque flare]

the

[hushed axle]

The

[dusty arrow]

the

[outer matrix]

The || magikarp ||

[hushed axle]

?tag feesh

[opal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245396302427062282/1291528737376047154/from-kanto-to-your-table-the-best-sushi-in-the-johto-region-v0-4eu46720g6891.webp?ex=67006d5e&is=66ff1bde&hm=882b7622a5c23cded595c74a76211759a186d96ec783fb68918210bada10caab&

[rancid nymph]

Why is that a thing

[hushed axle]

[molten loom]

?tag partybudew

[opal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/700790080175996938/804503692392005632/rainbowbudew.gif

[deft obsidian]

The ice type magikarp

[ember bear]

nah that's the rice type magikarp

[hushed axle]

its sushi

[rancid nymph]

I’m pretty sure that’s the ghost type Magikarp

[rancid nymph]

I repeat my earlier question

[molten loom]

?tag bomb

[opal trail]

💣

[rancid nymph]

Why does Deion have so many random commands

[hushed axle]

Deino is babey

[molten loom]

Built up over time

?tag youreit

[opal trail]

no tag backs

[molten loom]

?tag kiss one I've seen a bunch in #spriter-general

[opal trail]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/c1/51/0f/c1510f1f14406dda27206c6bbe320b25.jpg

[hushed axle]

Spriters just kiss each other constantly

[eager jungle]

kommo-o is fun to work with as a body

[molten loom]

Right that's what this channel is for

[eager jungle]

[hushed axle]

This has become general 2.0

[rancid nymph]

I’ve also seen that one a bunch in #spriter-general and I also question why that exists

[hushed axle]

Kissy kissy kissy apparently

[tender plank]

wait what-

[full bison]

Just without people constantly asking why their Pokemon keep looking like grey circles with question marks

[fathom ridge]

General but better

[molten loom]

nah that happens here too occasionally

[outer matrix]

Deino has a dex Pokémon command, but I think it's blocked here

[tacit saddle]

interesting...

[gray stream]

can confirm

[hushed axle]

that’s kinda gay (in a lighthearted joking way)

[proud lion]

How long until this channel gets the archive snap?

[hushed axle]

My guess is shortly after 6.3 officially drops tbh

[dense lake]

What were the new mons added?

[inland jewel]

Kommo-o

[steel meadow]

kommo-no

[inland jewel]

fun guy, favorite pseudo

better than goodra

[steel meadow]

wha, how.

you know garchomp exists right?

[inland jewel]

yeah and garchomp isn't my favorite pseudo

[steel meadow]

and tyranitar, and metagross and literally any other pseudo except for maybe baxcalibur

[indigo sierra]

my favorite is salamence

[molten loom]

can't wait to fuse it to ho-oh to get ho-mo-o

[inland jewel]

top 3 for me are
Kommo-o
Tyranitar
Salamence

bottom 3 are

Dragonite
Goodra
Baxcalibur

[steel meadow]

does salamences mega have anything to do with this opinion?

[inland jewel]

no

[indigo sierra]

nope. it was my first ever shiny pokemon

[mint grotto]

salamance ftw as go team sky

[steel meadow]

🥐

[steel meadow]

fair enough

i always thought salamence was too "basic"

[mint grotto]

great i want a croissant now

[inland jewel]

I grew up with Ruby/Sapphire as my first game, so obtaining Salamence in my playthrough rocked

[indigo sierra]

plus i am. insane about ruby and sapphire pokespe and salamence plays A Role in those two's Situation

[steel meadow]

but then u just said chain dragon > ?!

[hushed axle]

https://tenor.com/view/kommo-o-pokemon-jangmo-o-hakamo-o-dragon-gif-6106603155641907404

[rain locust]

Why is Kommo-o just teleporting behind them? Is he stupid?

[inland jewel]

Yeah I’m giving a reason why I like Salamanca

For Kommo-o, gen 7 are like my favorite games

I love all stages of his line

He’s pretty fun to use

[unkempt kernel]

I like the middle stage the most of of the Kommo-o line

[inland jewel]

He’s also not a pain to level and evolve

[alpine rune]

This server actually made me like goodra

I never used it in the main games, I thought it was ugly

Chicken drumstick looking ass

But then I used it in this game

[full bison]

Goodra has some really nice fusions

My favorite has to be Goodra/Roserade where Roserades flowers become those plants that produce slime

[alpine rune]

I just liked it because it carried my team

I didn't know a dragon with 200 special defense is quite solid in this day and age when they have an extra typing

[full bison]

I can definitely see that. Goodra does feel like one of the best head options for a physical attacker thanks to high HP and SpD while its Attack is solid enough to not burden the attack stats of the body half.

[late minnow]

is shamin going to be added

[west sonnet]

[late minnow]

lol i would like keldo and shamin added

[hexed agate]

fun fact: the smogon base for Goodra was made using Dragonite as a template iirc

[languid fossil]

what are the nuzlocke rules?

what are the nuzlocke rules?

[west sonnet]

However you want them

[languid fossil]

alr

[west sonnet]

but generally catch the first two pokemon on a route, fuse them

Bonus mons can be subbed into a route fusion

My personal rule is that if you have any two unfused mons in your box at any time you fuse them

For example, you start by getting a starter, two route 1 mons, and the pyukumuku

Since I always have those four mons I always fuse them in whatever combo I want

[ruby breach]

If you play on randomized mode you can just make it so that you always find wild Pokémon that are already fused

[inland jewel]

yes

its the option that says "Fuse Everything"

[tacit saddle]

i dont think that was a question, just a statement

[viscid fossil]

Yes

[junior cipher]

can we get maractus in the Game i meant lol

[prime dust]

?tag pokedex

...

bot still borked

[prime dust]

https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokédex

that is our dex, everything there up to 470 is in the game, past that will be brought in with 6.3

if it isn't listed there, and is from Gen 3-7 it might get added in later

[hushed axle]

Oh you mean like musharna teasing us there

[prime dust]

there's a petlil floating around somewhere else in the game

[molten loom]

was*

[inland jewel]

That was removed

[prime dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-the-office-michael-scott-scream-gif-16929305

[hushed axle]

Now it’s just musharna & I think minccino

[outer matrix]

I think the overworld graphics for petilil are still in the game's files

[molten loom]

that can probably be said for about a lot of pokemon

[outer matrix]

true

although tbh, there's lots of unused and leftover stuff in this game

[marble meadow]

well i still take a break cuz i have no idea what i could do for a run but i will do a mix run with some off the new mons in the update

[viscid fossil]

Let's not forget TOXTRICITY_gmax.png

[empty pendant]

🎵 colors weave into a spiral of flame, Toxtricity's the best 'mon in the game--

[trail hull]

at soem point or at least in last year's beta there was inteleon gmax too

also in the game fiems there are overworld sprites for a lot of mon not ingame like keldeo

[opaque flare]

i think all unfused pokemon (until gen7) have overworld sprites

[viscid fossil]

Why does shiny snorlax have overworld sprites

Oh I found the guy

[trail hull]

zacian icon is in the beta and some other too (warning for people it doesn't guarantee any gen 8 mons )

also there is weepinbell shadow , are shadow pokemon ingame?

[viscid fossil]

wow everything's here
including every hat and cosplay pikachu ||(which is not the pikachu with a hat npc used in the beta||, alolan ninetales, necrozma forms, eterna floette, every alcremie form, and gender differences

[viscid fossil]

you can "make" them in debug which instantly crashes the game

[trail hull]

oh

[marble meadow]

speaking of shadows wasnt there a concept of shadow form like in xd

[unkempt kernel]

Nah it’s just left over stuff from poke essentials

[trail hull]

shadow pokemon come form pokemon colosseum and xd

[hushed axle]

A lot of these just come preloaded in essentials as mich said

[outer matrix]

🎵 distance sparks call to a region still unnamed

[trail hull]

food mon from gen 8 , sprite icon in the file yet impossible to programm

[hushed axle]

It’s not that it’s impossible. It’s that it’s a ton of work

[trail hull]

I know but it sounded cooler

[west sonnet]

Last time it made the game shit itself so

Abilities, specifically