pif-hoenn-discussion

[humble lance]

it was a warning and a promise

[brittle crow]

still dont like luvdisc...

[humble lance]

you dont like the pride butts?

[bitter comet]

So y’all are making lovdisc flags?

[humble lance]

ye

might as well

i really like this intersex one i made with raikous palette : >

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/diancie-pokemon-princess-princess-diancie-pokemon-diancie-gif-9491910277080827708

[buoyant mango]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[humble lance]

yeah the update hasnt dropped yet tho

[marble meadow]

so that’s all or cuz off the gitlab situation will there be a few more extras

[humble lance]

the what situation

oh

[marble meadow]

Sorry some words autocorrect to german

[humble lance]

interesting

there might be more pokemon announced around christmas/new years but yeah i think thats all of them for now

[marble meadow]

My guess is late November or sometime around December depends how far things got pushed back

and soon new pif mon discussion gets thanos I guess

[brittle crow]

You can try out the new mons in the beta.
Can get the beta role over at #roles and get the dl through there

[inland jewel]

theyve already confirmed that november is not possible

so its sometimes in december as long as nothing else happens, could be pushed to January

[marble meadow]

But hey more time to sprite and give a few of the new ones custom fusion dex entrys

[inland jewel]

yee, they purpousefully give it some time after a reveal so that sprites can be made

thinking about the Lycanroc situation where no sprites for it for an entire month since they revealed it the last week of October and then the update released early november

there was like 30 sprites for it 😭

[prime dust]

there were also more mons revealed back then

so spriters were hell swamped

[inland jewel]

i mean, 30 mons are still a lot

just not as much as 50

[fathom ridge]

I feel like one line per month would be awesome

[unique flame]

For now the reveals ended right?

[unkempt kernel]

Yes

[fathom ridge]

Yup

[unkempt kernel]

No more reveals until like next year

[prime dust]

maybe

[wide merlin]

Reveal the update so ?

[unkempt kernel]

Well if we don’t get 6.3 till next or December, we’re not getting anything new until 2025

[prime dust]

the whole finding a new repo thing really delayed a lot of stuff

had that not happened we might have got the update this month

[keen stream]

you're telling me they really did add Diancie?

[eager jungle]

yup

[keen stream]

i watched the whole diancie movie and you're telling me they added Diancie after i go to bed?

[eager jungle]

yup

[keen stream]

i thought they wouldn't add Diancie

but what about Luvdisc

is it still getting added?

[unkempt kernel]

Yes

[keen stream]

oh cool

[trail hull]

I Hope this chat re opens next year

[fathom ridge]

That the funnier timeline tbh

[trail hull]

But we got the best timeline

[hexed agate]

That's the timeline where you guys set staff on fire

I like our current timeline better

[fathom ridge]

True, but I wouldn’t be part of it, it would have been so funny (although I think this timeline is better overall )

[fathom ridge]

Did staff get any angry DMs yesterday

[fallen loom]

why? Luvdisc was obvious

[simple gulch]

hey u won

:v what other hatred fish do we have left

basculin?

[fallen loom]

Alomomola

Wishiwashi single

Phione kinda

Relicanth

[velvet root]

Since when is Relicanth hated???

[clear lichen]

At this point it doesn't seem like they'd just add Wishiwashi Single as a standalone apart from trolling

[ripe wigeon]

basculin got pretty good abilities and ...jaw

[clear lichen]

Relicanth isn't unpopular

Phione isn't a fish

[inland jewel]

since when was relicanth hated?

its just not as popular as other fishes

[clear lichen]

Phione is a mollusc

I'm not joking

I know I make shit up a lot but this is genuine

[velvet root]

I see the Fusion potential

[clear lichen]

Manaphy and Phione are Sea Angels
Sea Angels are Sea Slugs
Sea Slugs are Gastropods
Gastropods are Molluscs

[ripe wigeon]

it's pretty good head

for spriters

and decent body for players

[velvet root]

I mean
On the other hand I actually start to like Luvdisc

[spark prism]

luvdisc/teddiursa would be a great care bear

[stuck cave]

Pink is always a great color for head fusions

(biased)

[stuck cave]

Its a phony, you might say

[twin phoenix]

I may have an idea for Luvdisc and Gothitelle. 👀
Have too many other ones to work on first.

[trail hull]

Yea I got what I wanted also paya said that luvdisc was a last minute idea , like they decided to add it only 2 days before it’s reveal

[next flare]

Diancie was the last minute decision

[glass patio]

what the fuck is happening why are you guys making me think maybe luvdisc isn’t that bad

[velvet root]

Cuz it isnt

[glass patio]

nah, it’s still just a stupid heart fish with nothing interesting

but at least it doesn’t have stupid mouth

like brux*sh

can we remove pokemon 469 from the game btw

[next flare]

That’s PANSEXUAL ERASURE

[glass patio]

no

it’s stupid mouth erasure

[west sonnet]

the schlurper

[fathom ridge]

Hear me out: troll fish triple fusion

[glass patio]

y know what, ok maybe luvdisc isn’t that bad it’s just a funny heart fish that while it doesn’t have any fusion potential it still doesn’t have this face

[trail hull]

I’ve been trying to tell people it isn’t bad

Also people use the heart scale color palette as accents

[ripe wigeon]

Oh it's giving me a flirty look.😍

[trail hull]

No dating allowed

[glass patio]

well the heart scale color palette isn’t really on the pokemon design itself but huh i didn’t think of that, maybe luvdisc fusions can be good if they use that

luvdisc self should def use heart scale color palette

however we should stop getting pink fish as troll pokemon and next time it has to be the unova monkes

[marble meadow]

im just glad that im spared off landourous for now

[midnight wharf]

So, is this the last pokemon announcement for the new update? I hope so, teams probably got they're hands full updating the game with what's already announced.

[west sonnet]

It should be

assuming no surprises from the dev

[civic harness]

We know them

Trolling

Laughs

[stoic canopy]

Tbf, the most people have been saying was to vaguely gesture towards “love and Valentine’s Day” for fusion concepts and kinda call it a day. The flag idea is genuinely a neat idea that seemingly only just came up.

[civic harness]

Or maybe the trolling is just making people being confused expecting any surprise before the end of the year to showing nothing in the end, saying the truth

[marble meadow]

hmm i wonder if a fusion of luvdisc could turn into an brazilian flag

[trail hull]

last year we got bruxish for chritstmas and we got cresselia to celebrate 2024

[civic harness]

Is just an heart sign with an fish face, play with it

[marble meadow]

so for a new year mon blacepholon fits cuz firework

if its decided a few will added new year but my guess is rather summer and winter 2025

[empty pendant]

you say it doesn't have fusion potential, I say it's responsible for one of my cutest Kecleons to date

[glass patio]

#1110680705018646658 message yeah y know what i changed my mind when i saw this

i don’t hate luvdisc anymore

[fathom ridge]

that thing is precious

[civic harness]

Maybe

[marble meadow]

but my bet some new batch of mons at summer

[gray stream]

well all mons have fusion potential, really, but some just have more than others technically. but TECHNICALLY, in my opinion, luvdisc has more potential than at least 25% of the mons that could’ve been voted for

(that doesn’t sound that good but it is just a heart fish so surprising)

[tacit saddle]

i mean it is a unique shape ... also fish :]

[gray stream]

exactly. heartscales and stuff as well

[tacit saddle]

yeah honestly im not unhappy about luvdisc

[cedar path]

except thats again

just a pink kecleon

[tacit saddle]

and

[gray stream]

well it does have some heart stuff going on

[tacit saddle]

tbf have you seen some sprites

[cedar path]

yes

almost all luvdisc fusions are just gonna be a pink version of it with a heart motif cause thats all they can do lol

but ey

better than just a sole recolor

[tacit saddle]

luxio over here making a billion pride discs

[cedar path]

yeah not surprised.

[tacit saddle]

i support the venture, personally

[gray stream]

well as I just said it does have a heart scale thing too, and kommo-o is worse than that imo

[cedar path]

factually not

[tacit saddle]

kommo-o i think is a pretty good addition actually

[cedar path]

you have to overdesign a fusion of luvdisc

to really sell that it's a luvdisc fusion

[tacit saddle]

is it the most unique shape? no, but it has patterns and things we dont really have in abundance, like a samurai aesthetic

also, dragon type

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar path]

we'd have a samurai aesthetic if we had oshawott line smh

[tacit saddle]

one day

trust

[gray stream]

idk, it’s not really overdesigning when the pokemon is a simple onestage line that you just enjoy spriting

[cedar path]

one day

[tacit saddle]

agree

[gray stream]

it’s called “creative liberty”

[cedar path]

its called over designing

they are very different

but oh well

more power to the people who want to design these

[tacit saddle]

and tbh some of these arent really overdesigning

[gray stream]

you can say that, but salazzle was also overdesigning in that case, which I agree with you in it just being creative liberty. people will make luvdisc interesting, so I don’t see a reason to argue about it. the base pokemon has no potential, we can agree with that

[tacit saddle]

like this one from malxire

[gray stream]

that’s just silly :v

[tacit saddle]

exactlyyy

[cedar path]

if it wasnt for the speedo i dont think id be able to tell it was one of the machop lines

[marble meadow]

well that means still only one or no one with convergent for now

[tacit saddle]

in short: every pokemon has potential

[cedar path]

nah

[tacit saddle]

Hater

[cedar path]

100%

[tacit saddle]

i respect it

[cedar path]

i hate seeing this thing no matter in what circumstance lmao

[tacit saddle]

luvdisc is just a little guyyy 😔

[cedar path]

i wonder how it tastes when deep fried

[gray stream]

you should probably look at the sprites rather than the base pokemon. people can be creative

even if it is overdesigning, if you like the sprite idk if it matters

[tacit saddle]

yeah like personally

[cedar path]

ah yes... the.. checks spritework dozens of heart shaped recolors with minor edits

[tacit saddle]

i like bruxish sprites

but the actual pokemon?

same with jynx tbh

[cedar path]

jynx did nuthin wrong

other than not getting an evo in gen 4 like the other two.

[tacit saddle]

eeehhh 💀

[cedar path]

jynx evo when

[gray stream]

so? a lot of pokemon are like that. it’s a pokemon with low base potential

[tacit saddle]

if we look at the original jynx design ... lmao

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cedar path]

...yeah? the original was fine too

you had a limited color palette in gen 1

[gray stream]

the pokemon itself is just a heart fish, so you would expect fusions to be either a recolor with a heart motif or do some overdesigning

[cedar path]

yeah

[gray stream]

https://tenor.com/view/major-spelling-mistake-gif-1745161421153268178

[tacit saddle]

wooper is a super simple pokemon with some neat fusions

[cedar path]

either its the same heart design (which is boring), or it's overdesigned to sell that it's a fusion with it

[cedar path]

yeah i also dont like those either mostly ngl

but at least it evolves

[gray stream]

idk how overdesigning makes it hard to sell. really is by definition just creative liberty. ho-oh doesn’t have rainbows and eevee doesn’t have evolutionary stones, but those are major parts of their concepts.

[tacit saddle]

also just look at the lil guysss :)

so stupid.. no brain in there

[cedar path]

its the opposite

you have to overdesign to show its a luvdisc fusion

or else it just looks like a generic valentine design

[gray stream]

idk what other pokemon is a pink recolor with a heart motif

[civic harness]

They are talking about all that people being trolled

[cedar path]

alomomola

[tacit saddle]

in my opinion, not really
to use this fusion as an example, nothing was added. those are kecleons patterns, theres heart motifs- reads as luvdisc in IF contexts

[gray stream]

that’s pretty easy to distinguish. different shapes and such

[tacit saddle]

theyre laughingat us

[gray stream]

and anyways, im still not against overdesigning to sell it as a fusion

[cedar path]

this could easily be mistaken as the pink oricorio if i didnt know ahead of time it was suppose to be luvdisc

[tacit saddle]

skill issue

[cedar path]

Im not against it either

[civic harness]

They are the devs in secret

[cedar path]

its just thats what you need to do to really show its a luvdisc fusion

[gray stream]

that’s fair enough, then. I can agree with that as a statement and see it as a reason to like or dislike the pokemon

[cedar path]

im not against the fusions

i just know its what's going to likely happen

its a basic design, cant really do much tbf

[gray stream]

yep

[tacit saddle]

i cant see luvdisc getting TONS of customs but this server enjoys taking fairly mundane, not super well liked (not disliked, just average) and obsessing over them

[civic harness]

Is all about creativity my acquaintance

[cedar path]

there's been a few times in the game iv struggled to figure out what something is a fusion of

so if it's too much "creative liberty" you also just run the risk of "this doesnt look like either original form"

[glass patio]

i looked at that really quickly and thought the ones on the left were kissing

[tacit saddle]

they are <3 love wins

[cedar path]

the hype will die down after a while since it was a meme pick

[tacit saddle]

also omg minior spriter? you are so based??

[gray stream]

since luvdisc is a pink fish that is often associated with heart scales, idk how that could remove any recognizability

[glass patio]

i’ve wanted minior in this game for over a year

[tacit saddle]

you won this time

[cedar path]

ngl

i dont remember heart scales being used for much in the games nowadays

[marble meadow]

at least i get silly ludicolo

[cedar path]

oh wait thats cause it was removed after gen 7

[gray stream]

yeah, but still commonly associated with luvdisc. I don’t see luvdisc itself much nowadays, but that’s probably because it sucks

[tacit saddle]

💀

luvdisc just took psychic damage 😔

[cedar path]

true

i sometimes see it in randbats

as like

lvl 97-98 swift swim set

and i want to pull my hair out any time i get it

cause it sucks so much 😭

anyhow

time to debate on waiting for diancie for this run or just starting it...

[marble meadow]

what list of abilities and moves are missing in if or just tell me the missing numbers of abilities and moves till gen 7

[glass patio]

y know what i looked at this chat a bit and yeah while i like pokemon that look good for fusions i can see why there’s people that just like simple sprites

[trail hull]

so luvdisc is prob the last mon until next year (thop we might have a christmas and new year mon but it isn't guaranteed)

[tacit saddle]

furfrou for new years? real?/j

[marble meadow]

furfrou carneval reveal

[trail hull]

last year we had :
Bruxsih for christmas
cresselia for new year

[gray stream]

i would love furfrou

[tacit saddle]

i want furfrou.

[humble lance]

i think we should get spheal line and snover line for the holidays

[tacit saddle]

SPHEALLLL

YES

[humble lance]

giv ice

[trail hull]

that wwould be great

[gray stream]

spheal good, snover good

[marble meadow]

fitting for new year blacepholon cuz firework explosion

[gray stream]

ultra beast is an immediate yes from me

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/blacephalon-pokemon-anime-explosion-mind-blown-gif-24092058

[tacit saddle]

i would LOVE ultra beasts

duuuude

GIVE ME MY SWOLE BUGGGGG

[glass patio]

blacephalon would be great for new year yeah

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/buzzwole-edit-gigachad-chad-gif-2282232026293541270

[gray stream]

i love all of the ultra beasts, literally all of them. they are so cool and weird

[tacit saddle]

stakataka

<3

UBs are prolly one of my fav groups of pkmn

[tender plank]

I think I want either Stakataka or Kartana for the first UB, idk i think they're neat and fun and I like them

[glass patio]

i looked at all of them and yeah there’s not a single one i don’t like

[marble meadow]

kartana would be poggers for next year addition cuz origami and paper fusions

[tacit saddle]

also the art for UBs is literally GORGEOUS???

[glass patio]

cool and weird, that’s the point of them, they’re from another dimension

[trail hull]

we need more ub content

[gray stream]

kartana blacephalon for new years real

[tacit saddle]

we do!! i want more UB development sm

[tender plank]

'me when i pull up with the army of sentient bricks i befriended from another dimension'

[tacit saddle]

kind of feels like we were cheaped out of some REALLY good alien stuff

[gray stream]

we should all just collectively start making ub sprites to encourage frog

[tacit saddle]

yesyes

[trail hull]

yes , and the ubs we have areapparently the most common creatures from their dimensions , I want to see the others. Give me the living things in buzzwole world's or xurkitree's

[gray stream]

ub takeover needs to happen

[marble meadow]

or if there a vote next year time to start a propaganda

[tender plank]

i would but i JUST became a spriter and i'm not sure if i'm ready for that task yet

[tacit saddle]

dude are you having a stroke

[gray stream]

makes sense, you can take your time

[glass patio]

my fav one has got to be xurkitree
i just like the silly cable tree

[tacit saddle]

clever name too

[gray stream]

yeah that’s prob my second fav. guzzlord is my fav personally

[tacit saddle]

buzzwole is my fav

[glass patio]

oh cool you’re a spriter i didn’t notice

[tacit saddle]

LOOK.

[tender plank]

i was having a hard time with 3x3 triangles 5 minutes ago, i would crumble upon having to do one pixel of whatever's happening in xurkitree

[hasty hawk]

So are we just never getting Unova starters?

[tacit saddle]

we probably are

just not yet

[trail hull]

the xurkitree we catch is jsut a baby

[hasty hawk]

good, samurott fusions would go hard

[tacit saddle]

a litle babay :]

[trail hull]

it was a frightening thoughyt when we first saw the ultra world

[gray stream]

well we’re probably getting them somewhat soon. I have no idea why frog would add kalos before unova, even for votes lmao.

[tacit saddle]

we're likely getting all starters from 1-7

[hasty hawk]

nice

[tacit saddle]

8 and 9... shit outta luck

[trail hull]

don't worry we'll get alola before unova too

[tacit saddle]

ALOLAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

[hasty hawk]

like i said, samurott fusions would go crazy hard

I LOVE ALOLA

[gray stream]

i do like me some alolan starters :v

[trail hull]

same

[hasty hawk]

primarina especially

[tacit saddle]

PRIMARINA WOULD BE SOOOO GOOD FOR FUSIONS.

[glass patio]

i really don’t think i need anything else after minior but there’s cool stuff i think would be cool like unova starters because of samurott, vikavolt, some ubs idk

[gray stream]

idk, I like all of them equally. incineroar is my favorite starter, actually, but I’ve heard some hate about it 😔

[tacit saddle]

there are so many mons that would be soooo. good.

[glass patio]

samurott’s my fav one out of all starters

[tacit saddle]

lots of alolan mods

mons

[trail hull]

don't think like thayt , every time there's a new mon there's more miniors fusions

[glass patio]

and more shedinja fusions because i also like those

[tacit saddle]

give me araquanid

[glass patio]

now i should go back to minior gaming because i haven’t made a sprite in a while

[tacit saddle]

good luck soldier

[gray stream]

im actually gonna make some ub sprites i think, we’ve waited long enough

[glass patio]

i still can’t thank enough for being able to post minior sprites for this game

this is so epic

[toxic flame]

This gif seems to be broken at #announcements , what did it show?

[tender plank]

it showed a star every once in a while

it was for minior's build up

[gray stream]

it was a troll

[toxic flame]

Ah thx

Btw I’m kinda mad that luvdisk joined

😂

[tender plank]

i think it's a funny pick

[toxic flame]

Yeah I know what you mean but we could have gotten so many cool Pokémons

Luvdisk is just kinda there

[marble meadow]

i got silly hat ludicolo and a turtle

[proud lion]

I wonder if we’re getting another movie next week?

[wide merlin]

oh lumineon are in the picture

[proud lion]

Watching the Genesect movie right now, see if there’s potential asset sprites that can be created

[trail hull]

luvdisc is a bonus so it's still good

[gray stream]

this too, even if you don’t like it at least it didn’t replace diancie

[trail hull]

If it took a mon away from us it would be bad but it apaprently wsas a last minute addition so it couldn't take a slot. And also it means that next time there's new mon it can't take the spot of a better mon as it's already in

also we stop this batch of mon at 501/818

[gilded pagoda]

cackling

[sick robin]

Are the reveals finished for now?

[wide merlin]

actually, yes. we have the 501 pokemon revealed. need the update now !

soon maybe !

[grave jolt]

Next month

[wide merlin]

december ?!

[stoic canopy]

That or January, we may get a 3rd update for the beta depending on stuff.

[full bison]

Blame Gitlab

[wide merlin]

i had forgotten thisproblem

[full bison]

The issue is mostly resolved but it still did put Frog behind the eight ball for a while

Cause enforcing ToS consistently is too much to ask for some companies apparently

[glass patio]

the november sprite pack isn’t coming until january, so until then luvdisc and diancie won’t have any sprites in the sprite pack

so the update is probably coming around that date

[silent acorn]

Yay! D'oh!

I like to imagine Misty using luvdisc in her gym

Then it dies

[full bison]

If you're absurdly patient you could also download every Diancie and Luvdisc sprite directly from the gallery, but don't if you value your sanity

[silent acorn]

You know what would be cool change to gyms?

[fathom ridge]

I think the game uses the sprites as they are posted, the websites are the ones that use sprite packs

[silent acorn]

Brock using Carbink

[full bison]

150 defenses for the first gym? It would need to be fused with a baby Mon to not be obnoxious

[glass patio]

oh really?

[fathom ridge]

Caterpie maybe?

[fathom ridge]

I think so

[silent acorn]

Its exactly because it would be obnoxious that it should happen

[fathom ridge]

Weedle has an awesome sprire by NTM

[silent acorn]

Mimejr. isn't that challenging with Steelix

[glass patio]

so the update could come anytime soon

[fathom ridge]

Nah it’s probably end of the year-beginning 2025

[silent acorn]

Is Shedinja/Minior Meteor a Black Hole?

[full bison]

Being fair, that's because Steelix is being used as a head and therefore not giving that much of it's defense

[silent acorn]

We need Carbink to make things interesting

[fathom ridge]

Well then Carbink could also be the head

Wait then all Carbink sprites are “unoptimal” as heads?

[silent acorn]

Finally Steelix won't die just from fire

[silent acorn]

Hmmmm not actually

Since its main focus is defenses

Then gimmicks moves help it

[full bison]

There aren't any unoptimal Carbink Fusions aside from typing or what's unoptimal on the other Pokemon's side

[fathom ridge]

Do heads or bodies transfer more defense?

[silent acorn]

Bodies

[full bison]

Bodies are defense, head is SpDef

Carbink has both at 150

[fathom ridge]

Oh wait then Carbink is fine

[full bison]

Aegislash/Carbink is about to go crazy with the Steel/Fairy type and identical offensive and defensive profile as normal

[fathom ridge]

Aegislash diancie

[full bison]

It's not that big of a difference to be fair, but it would be nice to have the Blade form sponge a bit more damage

Also Diamond Storm is pretty cool I guess

[fathom ridge]

Doesn’t diancie completely overshadow Carbink competitively?

[full bison]

It does, but that's because it has the same stats but with 100 offenses as opposed to Carbink's (I think) 60

And the way Aegislash works here doesn't care that much about the offensive stats unless you don't go for Stance Change

[fathom ridge]

The only hope for carbonk is that diancie gets banned to Uber

[fathom ridge]

Is there any super niche interaction that could make you choose Carbink over diancie

[dusty arrow]

strength sap, confusion

foul play

[fathom ridge]

That could be actually useful

[dusty arrow]

eh

[marble meadow]

how good is magearna

[full bison]

OP

[dusty arrow]

it wont do much to diancie regardless

resisted dark move coming from a 100 base attack

with 150 defense

[full bison]

Magearna is considered one of the most broken Mythicals ever

[marble meadow]

bet it has also a few good fusions

[dusty arrow]

also yeah magearna is really good

[full bison]

Aside from Arceus and Deoxys, Magearna is either the strongest or second strongest Mythical, it's biggest competition being Marshadow

[dusty arrow]

i would bring up genesect buts hes basically in a limbo area of being useless in ubers but still too good for ou

[dusty arrow]

also i think marshadow is slightly stronger than magearna, at least in ubers

because magearna can be used in ubers uu

[bronze barn]

losing steel fairy, and ghost fighting hurts

but I think shift gear, and fleur cannon, and soul heart, are really valuable

[fathom ridge]

Why? Fleur cannon doesn’t seem that OP, and its ability doesn’t seem super broken in singles

[full bison]

You're really underestimating Soul Heart. It's Moxie for Special Attack, and she has Shift Gear for Speed

She can effortlessly snowball out of control

[bronze barn]

contrary intensifies

[dusty arrow]

moxie for special attack but it still activates even if the opponent dies from status

[fathom ridge]

Ok I think I underestimated soul heart

[ember bear]

if any pokemon faints from anything

[fathom ridge]

That’s probably even better in vgc then

[dusty arrow]

it even works when a team mate dies iirc

[bronze barn]

not really

[full bison]

Mythical Pokemon are banned by default in VGC

[bronze barn]

that too

but like

set up pokemon are pretty bad in vgc, espescially when no spread moves

it has dazzling gleam

so it can probably work

[fathom ridge]

Yeah but aren’t they available in restricted formats? Or is that just normal legends?

[full bison]

Just normal legends.

[ember bear]

legends yeah

[fathom ridge]

Yeah the value of a turn in vgc is higher

[full bison]

I Think there was exactly one format where Mythicals were allowed

Can't recall if Magearna was a big player there

[marble meadow]

do u think once floette is in if there will be an az floette

[fathom ridge]

I guess it makes sense since mithical mons are hard to get

[bronze barn]

doubt

imagine the body fusions-

[fathom ridge]

Absolutely ||not||

The sprites could still use the cool flower tho

[outer matrix]

That would be 4 slots (including the rest of the floette line) if eternal was allowed

Eternal is currently unused in the official games

[full bison]

Light of Ruin being the only thing that keeps the Move Expert from going jobless is kinda funny

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if it will appear in legends ZA

[outer matrix]

It's heavily likely tbh

It would be a missed opportunity if they didn't

[full bison]

If it doesn't appear in ZA it'll probably remain unused throughout the series

[outer matrix]

I remember that earlier in HOME's era, you could transfer a eternal floette (only possible via save editing in the 3ds games), but later on it's HOME data got deleted which resulted in the mobile home app breaking (if you had it in a box)

The floette turned into an egg as a result of it being deleted

[fathom ridge]

Egg

[outer matrix]

If eternal was added to PIF, I wonder what the head fusions would look like

[full bison]

Probably similar to how regular Floette does, just with the magentas and purples of Eternal and some sharper edges where the flower is concerned

[silent acorn]

so it dies

[glass patio]

pory stop bragging about your awesome epic base

[silent acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/red-heart-heart-heart-broken-heart-break-shattered-gif-26324434

[marble meadow]

so many wonders and questons still lingering until i find the answer in the game how certen mons like meltan and inkay evolve in if if they are added in the future

[silent acorn]

Guess Pory actually wanted Luvdisc instead of Relicanth :v

: V

[hexed agate]

as if

I wanted Fishmas above all else

[brittle crow]

You did get it!

technically!!

[hexed agate]

yes I did

Fishmas is real

[glass patio]

it is not fishmas

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/bWdWC.gif

[glass patio]

it’s luvember

[hexed agate]

there's Mariah Carey and christmas decos outside

it's Fishmas

[silent acorn]

[glass patio]

halloween just ended

[silent acorn]

What feesh are missing anyway?

[hexed agate]

Lumi, Reli, Bascu, Wishi

[silent acorn]

Basculin, wishiwashi, lumineon... What else?

[hexed agate]

Alomomola

[silent acorn]

Yes

Alomo i cry

For it died

For all your sins

[glass patio]

phione

[hexed agate]

[silent acorn]

We got plenty rocks and water now then

[cunning seal]

huantail

[deft obsidian]

We will make pokemon infinite fish with this one

[silent acorn]

Plenty gen 3 feesh

[hexed agate]

more feesh

[glass patio]

i forgot that pokemon existed

[hexed agate]

you give a man a fish

he eats fora day

[cunning seal]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-gif-24735885

[hexed agate]

you troll a man with a fish]

he sprites forever...

[glass patio]

i have a theory

porygon is a fish

[silent acorn]

Funnily enough i only seen bodies but no head fusions

[hexed agate]

there's plenty of both going around

[velvet root]

Only Gourgeist, Diancie, Minior (both forms), Lombre and Ludicolo left and I made a sprite for every new mon!

[silent acorn]

Seen very little hearts honestly

[glass patio]

y know i was wondering i really cannot do anything with this info but how much pokemon do we have without counting their forms?

[silent acorn]

Yeah with that one is 3

[velvet root]

Luvdisc?

[silent acorn]

Yeha :/ not many heart shapes all around

[silent acorn]

Mostly people using body

[silent acorn]

4, is this one on spritework?

[velvet root]

I just put it in gallery

[silent acorn]

Also that's sweet actually

Lemme

Go to gallery and get a number

[velvet root]

See #sprite-gallery message

[keen valve]

Diancie is nice I wonder if it'll be post elite 4, or pre elite 4

[silent acorn]

9 on artwork

3 on spritework

12 total

[eager jungle]

hello there

how are you people

[glass patio]

ok nvm i just checked for myself, if i’m not wrong there’s currently 494 pokemon

[silent acorn]

A bit but honestly i was expecting a bit from the heart obsession

[eager jungle]

luvdisc isn't a good mon head fusion wise

body you can do stuff (like the diancie/luvdisc of ribbon)

but head, idk

except turning pokémons into magical girl, idk what else you can do

[keen valve]

I could see the regis just getting a giant heart plastered on them

[velvet root]

Me who has problems with the body

[trail hull]

bodies are easy but for head you have to get a bit creative

[silent acorn]

Don't ask me i didnt want it lol

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-love-i-love-you-moon-love-moon-gif-13907505

[silent acorn]

I was just thinking about the defenders always bringing up the heart shaped potential

[trail hull]

that being said I'm trying to make a luvdisc sakura

[eager jungle]

luvdisc/bewear or luvdisc/usaring :

[silent acorn]

Is that a kommo line tail?

[trail hull]

I was the only active defenders

[keen valve]

Oh no

[marble meadow]

hmm wonder if it can make a kh ref

[trail hull]

no, sudowoodo arm

[silent acorn]

Man i was there i have ptsd from the amount of people defending it

[glass patio]

i think i prefer luvdisc heads because while you have to be creative you can put cool heart stuff ig

[silent acorn]

One tried to assassinate me

i almost died

[glass patio]

[velvet root]

Every try I had on a body people said it doesnt look like it anymore so I deleted them

[keen valve]

For any luvdisc head you could probably make a pokemon valentines day themed and would probably work.

[trail hull]

do you still have them?

I can try to help

[glass patio]

so for bodies you have to make them so simple so they still look like luvdisc

[velvet root]

I deleted them cuz I started to hate them and it was 4 am

[keen valve]

Body on luvdisc is probably more difficult. I would probably just keep the heart and then give a defining feature from the other pokemon.

[velvet root]

Found my first idea in the trashbin
the blue was to show the form

Noone liked the joke of the fusion

[trail hull]

yeah it isn't very recognizavle without the body , but if you put them onto of the body it could work

[carmine cloud]

VICTINI HAS BEEN ROBBED FROM US

RIOT

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[velvet root]

I rather delete them completly XD

[carmine cloud]

Diancie is MID

[trail hull]

lol

[eager jungle]

no

[glass patio]

no because victini dex number 0

[carmine cloud]

Wait what

no way

[eager jungle]

victini doesn't exist, victini is only a fabric of your mind

wake up

[glass patio]

nah it isn’t dex number 0 but it’d be funny

idk if you get why

[carmine cloud]

who even is victini

[eager jungle]

who knows

[carmine cloud]

diancie is still a bad Pokémon generally

[velvet root]

I think they mean Tails from sonic

[carmine cloud]

Shoulda been genesect

[velvet root]

Thats already in

[idle pulsar]

Are we done adding more pokemon tho-

[carmine cloud]

Oh

[carmine cloud]

For like 4 years

Or something

Pocket monster index will never be complete

[velvet root]

Very likely for this update

[carmine cloud]

Victini better be the 502nd Pokémon

In like 12 decades

[velvet root]

Why in 12 decades?

We likely get new mons new year or end of summer next year

[full bison]

I feel like I'd rather see an outright legendary group for the next batch

[velvet root]

I wouldnt

[full bison]

Either the Tapus for more team building options or the Aura trio cause they're basically peak design

As long as it's not the Lake trio

[compact orbit]

I mean… solgaleo and Lunala are right there

We already have Necrozma

Their fusions are literally canon

[full bison]

You think that if Solgaleo, Lunala, and Necrozma had a Triple fusion, it would also have an Ultra form too?

[fallen loom]

Luvdisc with teeth and Trapinch without any

[fathom ridge]

Tbf the only one you want is the goat

[velvet root]

No I want quiet some mons
Goat is just fav

[full bison]

Me with Mienshao and Naganadel

[fathom ridge]

What’s your wishlist?

[velvet root]

Put Furfrou in the second tier and it should be fine ig

[hexed agate]

peak, ik

[ember bear]

imagine if it was marshadow

[velvet root]

Okay some got shuffeld a little for me
But I say the top is still pretty accurate for me
I say until Grumpig its accurate atm

[velvet root]

I maybe would have left the server XD

[fathom ridge]

I can’t help but notice luvdisc at the bottom also very solid list

[velvet root]

I changed my mind tho

[fathom ridge]

Yeah that garchomp was awesome

[velvet root]

Now it is above Drampa for me

I cant give 100% accurate opinions if I never sprited it

[fathom ridge]

Maybe you should sprite them all

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[velvet root]

I mean for a handfull I lack the skill but know its awesome like Camerupt or Hippowdon

[full bison]

Hippowdon would be cool considering we're pigeonholed into using TTar if we want a Sandstorm team, meaning you're waiting till level 50 or a Mist stone for a fully powered team

[fathom ridge]

Camerupt would be soooo cool

[velvet root]

Also Hippowdon has fun fusions that I already saw
Hippowdon/Torterra for a example

[velvet root]

Vikavolt too
I may have problems spriting it but still fun

[fathom ridge]

Hippowdon has a lot of cool sand potential

[fathom ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-vikavolt-charjabug-gif-9816156

[full bison]

My personal list for what I'd like to see added next is: the Unova starters, the Starly line, Bronzor line, Mienfoo line, Cryogonal, Hippopotas line, Grubbin line, the Tapus, Unova fossils, and maybe the Poipole line if they can be added without having to inject too many UBs at once

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/tomascore-goat-rain-horse-sad-horse-girl-gif-17595095308822873447

[fathom ridge]

I wonder how many mons will next batch have

[full bison]

I'd be happy for you if the goat was added, it's just not the highest on my personal list

[velvet root]

Fair

[marble meadow]

at least it was not cloud man

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-showdown-pokemon-landorus-therian-gif-25904682

[stoic canopy]

He sure is intimidating, I’ll give him that.

[marble meadow]

bro imagine what other trick it can use fused with other mons

[gloomy obsidian]

If we got one or two new legendaries that ||Arceus could triple fuse with|| what do you think they’d be?

[marble meadow]

silvally obviosly and 2nd not sure yet regigigas

[gloomy obsidian]

I could definitely see that

[brittle crow]

is there an argument for xerneas

[stoic canopy]

Probably eternatus, him and necro.

Even though we can’t get eternatus

[brittle crow]

nvm nexro better yeah

[gloomy obsidian]

Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde for sure if we get all 3 of them

[stoic canopy]

You can count the number of Pokémon on the level of arceus on one hand with an even number of fingers. So I’ll be hard to do a ||triple fusion with him||

[marble meadow]

and of course the triple fusion only has x zygarde ability

[full bison]

A triple fusion of the Lousy Three could make for a fun antagonist for a postgame quest if not for them not being allowed in

[fathom ridge]

arceus, ultra necrosma and eternatus... which is gen 8 so maybe zyguarde complete?

i think a ||triple fusion||of luvdisc, stunfisk and bruxish would be peak

[eager jungle]

eternatus would probably fuse with zacian and zamazenta

[stoic canopy]

It’ll just make a normal fish.

[unkempt kernel]

I think a triple fusion of the hitmons would be peak

[fathom ridge]

wait true

[unkempt kernel]

I think they don’t have one cus if Tyrouge

[stoic canopy]

Do zacian and zamazenta have anything to do with eternatus? Outside of them fighting it, it kinda feels like they are just against it. 2 of the blade quad feels like better fits for them.

[marble meadow]

the power of the man clouds will be triple fusion of the cloud guys

[unkempt kernel]

You mean the genies?

Actually the genies would get 2 triples no? One for avatar form and another for therian?

[marble meadow]

yup

[flint tiger]

Also since there's a "requirement" for the three pokemon to have a connection, like the three regis, the legendary birds/beasts, starters, etc.

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah

[flint tiger]

it might make sense for the leaders of legendary trios to fuse together

regigigas being the leader of the regis, arceus is the leader of the creation trio, etc.

[unkempt kernel]

Ye but not every trio has a master

Like the weather trio technically doesn’t

Or the tao trio

[flint tiger]

then again, the "leader" would also qualify ho-oh and lugia if i remember

[eager jungle]

there's also the triple pollution
muk/weezing/garbodor (water/air/ground)

[unkempt kernel]

Yeah Ho-Oh for the beasts and Luiga for the birds

[unkempt kernel]

Oh that’s an idea

[coarse karma]

forgot about this yesterday, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hwcAd7NyITX-7pSFWqQeSyRbGAXNT36K3ee9a665ifo does it still say it?

[full bison]

Is there anything in the games proper connecting Lugia to the birds? I know there's some stuff in the anime but I can't think of anything from the games. And the beta stuff wouldn't count cause it's lack of inclusion means it's not canon

[unkempt kernel]

There might be something on the johto games somewhere but I’m not too sure

[eager jungle]

my minior is weird, wdyt people ?

[coarse karma]

ooh, I actually like it.

[velvet root]

Fesh

[fathom ridge]

it looks like it is going to consume my soul, what a silly goober

[fathom ridge]

ston fesh

[velvet root]

I hope I get myself to make the Proboscus Monkey soon

Man I need more fusion ideas

[eager jungle]

sceptile/lycanroc day

[velvet root]

I should have been more specific

[velvet root]

For one of those
Except meteor minior

[silk narwhal]

the super crown is one of the best art trends out there

[velvet root]

I dare you to do the Super crown in other franchises

[silk narwhal]

any suggestions?

[eager jungle]

then what about dusknoir/ludicolo ?

[velvet root]

Like Pokemon or Avatar or Jurassic park

[eager jungle]

Appa from atla

[velvet root]

Actually I have to think of Dusclops now

[silk narwhal]

pokemon as in the creatures or the trainers

[silk narwhal]

damn lmao

what a suggestion

[velvet root]

You can decide
But Super crown Goliso and Wimpod would be hilarious

[eager jungle]

just don't break rule 2

[silk narwhal]

dude i'm not gonna draw porn

[silk narwhal]

lmao that's a great idea ngl

[eager jungle]

yeah but the super crown can get kinda suggestive sometimes

and as always

[velvet root]

Would be a good way to earn money online tho

[eager jungle]

better to warn first than to strike

[silk narwhal]

yeah, yet

in case of need, it's just a matter of drawing a couple extra lines lmao

[velvet root]

Who would be another funny super crown candidat🤔

[silk narwhal]

anyways let's axe this convo

because it does break rule 2

[silk narwhal]

uhhhhh

idk man you tell me

golisopod is a great idea

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-light-on-mono-patients-little-nightmares2-scary-creature-gif-20497959

[silk narwhal]

oh shit

should i make NGS

[velvet root]

Some patients

[velvet root]

YESSS XD

[silk narwhal]

fuck yeah let's do it

[velvet root]

Super crown Necrozma will be awesome

Super crown Mono would be funny for a Little Nightmares fan comic

[glass patio]

Wtf have I walked into

[velvet root]

Idk

[outer matrix]

The SV model of luvdisc shows the scales it has more visibly

[nocturne ruin]

Where can I find bulbasaur in the wild?

[inland jewel]

ask that in #ask-a-bot

it'll tell you

also this place is for discussing new pokemon getting added

like Luvdisc

[glass patio]

like

[inland jewel]

you're so right i forgot we had that emote now

[noble mulch]

is that emote old or is it recent?

[inland jewel]

added when Luvdisc was announced to be added

final mon we're getting this update that we know of

we could get more mons but they haven't said anything aside from Frogman crossing out Final

some think its due to Announcing Luvdisc but then adding Diancie, but others thing that its because there are more mons after Luvdisc

[spare shore]

YAAYYY

[full bison]

I seriously don't think that Frog just decided "yeah I guess I'll add a few more mons." I definitely think it's the former situation

But I definitely won't complain about more stuff to sprite if it is indeed a sign that more will be added

But again I think that's wishful thinking

[inland jewel]

As I said: some think A some think B

No need to clarify it to me

[prime dust]

you won't but given the grumbling the spriters made last year, i don't think they want a repeat of 50 mons

[inland jewel]

I think that’s more the fact that last year they HAD to sprite all mons if they wanted their favs in

Like if I did 2 more sprites then Golisopod could have gotten in a year earlier

This year for maximum chances you only had to do like 6-12 sprites for maximum participation.

Last year it was like 50-100 (numbers due to some competitions allowing 2-3 entries)

[simple gulch]

u can add luvdisc as bruxish mouth

[daring burrow]

damn

added luvdisc for the lul

[ocean lark]

i'm gonna sprite this outfit

[cedar path]

thats a cute outfit

actually

it'd go pretty hard on jirachi or minior

[marble meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-miror-miror-b-moonwalk-groove-gif-26016891

Soon mirro.b run and I will fused one ludicolo

and I hope his Afro is in the if update

maybe some dance based fusions should fit too

[bold crane]

they did a similar one for jirachi

also diancie coming in is so based

https://tenor.com/view/o-gif-2111438640881170634

[unkempt kernel]

[bold crane]

Dont bring me back to the mental trauma the luvdisc reveal gave me😭

[ripe wigeon]

[velvet root]

#1213539303876206643 message
Hes adorable

[marble meadow]

i think i should learn how to sprite or make custom banners for my ub propaganda next year

[trail hull]

I wonder if we’ll be here next year

[full bison]

I can draw up some stuff for that

[marble meadow]

i would but my computer is a potato

[gray stream]

i would love some good ol ub propaganda im sick today so im gonna dedicate the day to spriting ultra beasts. not sure what to start with tho

any suggestions?

[marble meadow]

kartana porygon fusion or porygon made out off paper

[prime dust]

then start saving for a toaster

[prime dust]

if it doesn't exist already Sudowoodo/Stakataka = Jenga

Buzzwole/Machamp = the arnold handsake gif [obviously as a still image but you get the idea]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-hand-shake-arnold-arnold-swarzeneger-gif-9494194

[gray stream]

i can try both. funny enough though, someone made an ultra beast form of sudowoodo in another server that looked a bit like stakataka

[prime dust]

lol

oh, a third and final one; though would be with 2 mons that aren't in the game

Swallot/Guzzlord = Kirby

[order on that can be changed if need be for size]

https://tenor.com/view/food-coma-food-eat-starving-kirby-gif-4698182

our favorite eldritch abomination

[gray stream]

maybe

[prime dust]

fair

suggestions made at the very least

[gray vine]

eh i dunno Jigglypuff should be a part of the fusion

[eager jungle]

jigglypuff/guzzlord

[full bison]

My only suggestion is Xurkitree/Dodrio, instead of having Xurkitrees head as... Well, the head, it should be the body, with the actual heads being the classic red, yellow, and white adapter cables

[gray stream]

these ideas have inspired me, but a lil complex so im gonna start by making a smaller guy lol

gotta get used to spriting ultra beasts

[autumn radish]

You know... Honestly, i have doubts if Luvdisc was a good idea.
I get that it was added as a joke, probably like with Stunfisk and Bruxish... Buuuuuuuuuut the stats kinda fails the mon...
I think it's not good, unless they buff its stats to make it worth using. Heck, Stunfisk and Bruxish both have decent stats, so at least i can understand the reason to use them (and their moveset isn't bad either)... Can't say much for Luvdisc.

[gray vine]

just fuse em to make em average

you know do the thing

you really dont need more then average for the game

[brittle crow]

The moment you said it was a joke, is when everything after was basically invalidated

no1 rly rly wanted luvdisc

every1 knows its subpar

[gray vine]

no everyone cares for combat use, alot care for making fusions

but even there luvdisc....isnt great

like sure make some heart based fusions..and then what

[full bison]

Alomomola is basically doomed to purgatory cause of a joke addition

[gray vine]

i really dont see why

it can still be added...even if its just a worse luvdisc design wise

[gray stream]

i wouldnt even be surprised if it was added as the next joke addition

working on my first luvdisc now guys

[inland jewel]

Alomola basically better luvdisc for battle but worst luvdisc for art

Because oh boy those HP and Def stats

[ripe wigeon]

hi, has anyone seen the Steel, Normal, Ground, or Poison expert NPCs in the 6.3.0 beta?

#playthrough-talk message We're trying to collect all the outfits, but there are a few type experts we haven’t seen yet. I’m guessing they probably have outfits rewards too.

[gray stream]

kartana new years real

[full bison]

I wonder how mad people would be if we had another roster update that was just all 11 Ultra Beasts and nothing else

[spice sage]

It's a beta, not everything is in yet

[ripe wigeon]

OH SO THERE WILL BE EVEN MORE

[hazy fable]

or less depends on your feedback prolly

[spice sage]

Ofc! As long as people keep making outfits in https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1198414970744995961 I'll keep adding them to the game

[hazy fable]

Frog does it also include custom poses?

[spice sage]

No

[ripe wigeon]

btw I've got this feeling out of nowhere that Diancie's questline might involve some cute Luvdiscs moments. Could be my sweet dream tho, thanks to Cresselia.

[marble meadow]

i think the update will fix some bugs and i say the update comes out december or later in december

[proud bluff]

Diancie added to the random encounter table for rock smash, 1% rate from 6 random breakable rocks throughout the game

its Munchlax DPPt time

[full bison]

I'm just hoping life gets better for physical Water types. It's pretty annoying how the only reliable Phys STAB option a bunch of Water Pokemon has that's available before the postgame is Aqua Jet

[proud bluff]

Crabhammer from the Vermilion tutor?

I found that one to be really good

[full bison]

Doesn't help Sharpedo

Or Feraligatr

[proud bluff]

Ahh, they need Liquidation desperately

[marble meadow]

i like these odds

[ember bear]

hey it's better than what physical electrics have

[west sonnet]

I mean

There’s always to option to expand volt tackle

[proud bluff]

expert tutor also teachs Zing Zap right?

[full bison]

Phys Electrics aside from Luxray at least have easy access to Thunder Punch

[proud bluff]

then plasma fists from legend tutor

[ripe wigeon]

Diancie will reside on a beautiful island surrounded by lovely Luvdiscs , just like ||the Oricorio Clearing in the Meloetta storyline|| that you need to pass through to reach.

[molten loom]

There will also be the luvdisc/luvdisc Diancie joke alt there to trick people
-# (if that sprite existed)

[ripe wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302649859475636224/1302649859752333392/501.501.png?ex=672a3438&is=6728e2b8&hm=cba4bbb2f76fbe6b1606581bc76f92a4536014abc04f7b152b075bdc3f03bcb3& it's the other widely loved pink fish.

[deft obsidian]

Like magikarp/gyarados?

shiny gyarados trick

[proud lion]

Will Amolamola get the Sinnoh starter treatment where it gets added later into the game as Luvdisc’s evolution but not as the matching numbers?

Like some sort of Kanto shenanigans cause Luvdisc to transform into Amolamola?

[molten loom]

That is my thought process for the joke alt

Especially because of how they were revealed

[unique flame]

i think luvdisk is a really cute pokemon to sprite but it's sad that the sprites will never be picked by players because the stats are abysmal

besides for very meme runs

[hazy fable]

let it be to have more luvdisc body fusions than head fusions

i feel like thats what happening to carbink

[spice sage]

Nope. As much as I would prefer it to be luvdisc's evolution, game freak decided that it's standalone so I'll stick to the canon stuff

[proud lion]

https://tenor.com/view/understandable-have-nice-day-have-a-great-day-have-a-good-day-nice-gif-20850110

[compact orbit]

Hey so I have a question

How does minior work, sprite-wise?

[gray vine]

like Necrozma

[hazy fable]

prolly like all versions of it are alt sprites instead

[compact orbit]

Like, do you need its ability “shields down” to swap between sprites? And then just bank on the hope that both sides have customs?

[gray vine]

if it was alts it wouldnt get 2 spots

[hazy fable]

I meant the core form

[gray vine]

yes so did i

the core has its own dex entry

[compact orbit]

And what’s the difference between the two anyway? Speed, right?

[hazy fable]

like the different colors

[gray vine]

it will work like Necrozma

[gray vine]

gotcha

they really didnt need to be added as full forms, its just a color change

pretty sure Lleb just meant core and normal tho

[hollow plume]

why the hell would anyone add lotad before they added mightyena?

[compact orbit]

Yeah, I’m wondering about stuff involving the differences between core and meteor form

[hazy fable]

bcoz we want dancing big duck

[compact orbit]

Because Mightyena doesn’t add much creativity to the game? Idk, ask frog

[hollow plume]

look at the good boy

i can think of so many things to do with him

[marble meadow]

sill hat also some fusion in the galary are cool pretty and awesome

[hollow plume]

amd mighters aren't?

[ember bear]

well

[compact orbit]

It’s just a dog

[hollow plume]

its a hyena

rockruff is just a dog

[ember bear]

eh canine thing

basically the same

[hazy fable]

prolly bcoz we have zoroark to fill up the spot of a rough black canine

[ember bear]

and houndoom

[hollow plume]

then why add rockruff? its just a dog with a silly furry evo

[gray vine]

eh we got Diance so creativity doesnt seem important

[compact orbit]

And yours isn’t?

[ember bear]

how dare you!

[hazy fable]

thats just lucario

[hollow plume]

you miss my point, if just being a dog is why we can't have mightyena, then why do we have rockruff

[tender plank]

wasn't rockruff a spriter's choice?

[ember bear]

i thought it was just one of the week bonuses

[hazy fable]

the best idea you can get out of mightyena line are werewolves

even tho its not a wolf

but then we have lycanroc midnight

[hollow plume]

werehyenas? gnolls?

[ember bear]

anyway not talking about artistic potential lycanroc offered more in terms of gameplay

[compact orbit]

That too

[ember bear]

fast rock type with a pretty good move

[hollow plume]

its still only got one even slightly interesting evo and that's the angry furry

[compact orbit]

When’s the last time you’ve seen someone bring Mightyena to the E4?… other than Sidney, the hoenn E4 member

[hollow plume]

i did on my ruby and emerald files

[compact orbit]

Anyone else?

[hollow plume]

but that's not relevant really, you can bring anything to the e4 if you try hard enough

[compact orbit]

Actually fair, you have a point

I’ve seen a Wooper take on Cynthia

[hollow plume]

as a non-competitive player, i'm not looking to optimize to 1OOO, i just want mons that are awesome, and mighters are awesome

[compact orbit]

I mean, alright, I guess that’s fair

I’m more hoping for stuff like Hippowdown, Canerept, Drapion, and Gigalith

Big beefy mons with physical elements you can tweak

[hazy fable]

I just want an eel

[hollow plume]

hippowdon and camerupt have a similar vibe i think to each other, but yeah, i just want mighters

[compact orbit]

To that point, someone fused them already in the lead up to this

Can someone find that image?

[ember bear]

all the pokemon i really wanted are already in

[compact orbit]

Lucky

[hollow plume]

a lot of my favorites for adding just aren't available due to being gen 8/9, but mightyena is one of the few i'm super hoping for

that and maybe purloin

[compact orbit]

Big dark type fan, eh?

[hollow plume]

i like a lot of their designs

[hazy fable]

dark type is cool type

[hollow plume]

like grimmsnarl may be one of my new top favorite mons since it was introduced

[compact orbit]

But I feel you on the no gen 8 or 9 thing. Poor Centiscorch…

[hollow plume]

or hatterene

[compact orbit]

I would’ve loved to see Centiscorch fused with Barraskewda

[hollow plume]

imagine for me, if youu will for a moment

centiscorch and furret

would be the LONGEST mon

[compact orbit]

Oooooooo

He walk with 100 burning legs

[hazy fable]

oh gawd

they say furret cant get any longer

furscorch:

[marble meadow]

furret linoone long boi

[wraith otter]

The second Hoopa unbound gets added in is when the game is gonna change

[hazy fable]

how

[marble meadow]

are there some non if unbound fusions yet in spritework

[full bison]

I don't think there's a single Mythical that could be added that I would care less about than Hoopa Unbound's ugly rear

[marble meadow]

i gonnay say hoopa unbound will fused into a better exodia ref

[full bison]

Even Phione would be coming with Manaphy

[hollow plume]

if we get phione before mightyena i may cry

[twin phoenix]

Praying we don't get Volbeat and Illumise before goths.

I'll take Hoopa over Zeraora any day.

[hollow plume]

zeroara is barely a legend, hell its barely a pokemon

its a weird monkey thing

[twin phoenix]

Is it not a cat? X.x

[hollow plume]

hang on i may be thinking of somethign else

ZARUDE

[twin phoenix]

I FORGOT ABOUT ZARUDE SANDSTORM TOO!

[hollow plume]

though zeraora is barely a legend either

[twin phoenix]

Holy moly, I've been forgetting them since gen 7.

[clear lichen]

Zarude is a Gen 8 mon, unless you mean Zeraora

Idk you're talking about both at the same time and not being extremely clear about which one exactly you're talking about

[hollow plume]

i got them confused

[ember bear]

well they are as memorable as each other

so it checks out

[twin phoenix]

Oh, you're right.

Gen 8 is indeed where I began to forget mythicals.

[clear lichen]

I cant really say anything on the matter, since I remember all Pokemon

[ember bear]

there is only 2 post gen 7 myths anyway

[clear lichen]

Me saying what Pokemon is forgettable or not would be making random shit up

[twin phoenix]

Shame, because the ones from the first 6 gens are very memorable to me.. Volcanion borderline forgettable.

[clear lichen]

And praying it makes sense

[hollow plume]

volcanion is one i forget a lot, apart from being fire/water type it really was uninspired

[twin phoenix]

I nearly forgot about Magearna for a second..

[clear lichen]

Let's see if I can name all the mythicals properly in one go

[viscid fossil]

Too late, you already forgot ||meltan||

[clear lichen]

Gen 1
Mew
Gen 2
Celebi
Gen 3
Jirachi
Deoxys
Gen 4
Shaymin
Manaphy
Phione (? Does this count?)
Darkrai
Arceus
Gen 5
Victini
Meloetta
Genesect
Keldeo
Gen 6
Diancie
Volcanion
Gen 7
Magearna
Marshadow
Zeraora
Meltan
Melmetal
Gen 8
Zarude
Gen 9
Pecharunt
I feel like I missed one

If I did I'm betting I missed one from Gen 6

[full bison]

Pecharunt is the only Mythical from the past few years besides Marshadow that I can consistently remember. Crazy how that happens when Pokemon have actual personality and lore behind them

[hollow plume]

cresellia?

[clear lichen]

Legendary

[twin phoenix]

Hoopa?

[hollow plume]

is cresellia mythical?

[full bison]

Nope

[hazy fable]

legend

[clear lichen]

Don't question why Cresselia and Darkrai, counterparts, are Legendary and Mythical instead of both mythical or both legendary

They're practically the same thing anyways

[twin phoenix]

I think Hoopa's absent from gen 6 section.

[ember bear]

well

[clear lichen]

Just that one tends to start off event exclusives

[clear lichen]

Shit yeah it is

Rip Poopa Unwiped

[ember bear]

also mythical are often more restricted in official formats

[clear lichen]

Bro has 680 BST and is still hot garbage

Slow frail mixed attacker that is 4× weak to U-Turn moment

... Are we sure Hoopa isn't from Gen 3?

[full bison]

I despise Unbound so much

[viscid fossil]

The most impressive thing hoopa can do is completely tank the 3ds' frame rate in triple battles

[clear lichen]

Ofc I'm mostly just insulting Hoopa's in battle performance for laughs

It is like UUBL at least

Which is good

Not for something with 680 BST

But hey

[full bison]

Imagine introducing a completely unique and interesting typing in Psychic/Ghost, only to throw that away and attach a new, hideously over designed piece of trash