pif-hoenn-discussion

[glass patio]

not just because of that, the hue shift is prob also gonna affect the shell itself

[sweet spoke]

This is pretty great holy shit
though I feel like the cracks near the waist are a bit confusing. I'm not sure what im looking at in that spot (I cant tell if it's a tuft of rock hair or where it connects to the main body)

[trail hull]

minior is a vey good adition

[eager jungle]

near legs or near arms ?

[sweet spoke]

leg

specifically the leg that's more left
Our left, not the mon's

[eager jungle]

just extra "fur"

[viscid fossil]

or just
don't use the ability

[fallen loom]

anyone know if Minior comes in different Core colours or if it's just the red one?

[velvet root]

I mean you can decide the color with the base

[fallen loom]

I mean for wild unfused

[velvet root]

Well just the main sprite

[fallen loom]

you mean the pink one?

Pumpkaboo has its different size forms, so you'd think Minior core colours would be RNG too

also the preview of Minor showed all core colours

so I'm confused if it is only the pink one or if the rest are going to be in too

or do you have to pick the colour in the dex as an alt sprite?

but that means they'd all end up that colour unfused

[velvet root]

Not possible

[velvet root]

exactly what I said

[fallen loom]

why is it not possible?

[velvet root]

One is just change the size of a sprite
the other is programming random colors in

[fallen loom]

except Pumpkaboo also changes the stats around

and the colours aren't random if they're from a set of 7

I don't see why it would be so much harder to add in Core colour RNG, yet fine and easy to change Pumpkaboo lines sprite size and stat distribution

[velvet root]

Cuz you cant controll all bases people make

[fallen loom]

I still think that all core forms should be in, since they were shown in a promo of them being added

I don't like the pink one

[velvet root]

Just take a base with the color you like qwq

[fallen loom]

yes but then all genned fusions will use the pink one

[velvet root]

Didnt we get a multi main sprite feature in the game?

[fallen loom]

that's what I'm asking, will we get differet colours or are they all pink by default?

[velvet root]

Still depends on the bases people make
If noone makes a Orange base we dont have a orange one

[sullen elbow]

I think what they mean is that if the autogenned sprites Will all be Pink or not

[fallen loom]

yes

[velvet root]

oooh yes

[hot hamlet]

If they are all set to priority, the game should randomize them for the first encounter, but whatever you set them as will be what the wild ones will all be

[west sonnet]

We have all bases

colourwise

[velvet root]

That was a examplee

[full bison]

Gotta say I don't think I've seen a single Minior Core sprite I've had an opinion of lower than "this is amazing." The bright colors and frequent contrast with Meteor form elements are all super aesthetically pleasing.

[unkempt kernel]

Plus core will have more sprites than ultra necro cus i assume its easier to work with (body wise)

[glass patio]

if not having shields down makes minior be on core form then core form having a lot of sprites is gonna be good

i’ll still try to make both forms for my sprites tho

[full bison]

I imagine you can do something like reduce a wild Minior to half hp then fuse it with something while it's still in Core form, then just not give it Shields Down

[ocean lark]

kommo-o: gen 7 pseudo legendary, from community vote, has 138 sprites
carbink: a bonked rock, from a raffle, has 471 sprites

[glass patio]

conclussion, carbink objectively better

https://tenor.com/view/carbink-gif-25570509

one of the best additions to the game

[next flare]

More interestingly…

kommo-o line: gen 7 pseudo legendary, from community vote, has 320 sprites

[ocean lark]

still fewer than carbink

[glass patio]

l community vote

[glass patio]

that’s the whole line combined?

lmao

carbink W

[rancid nymph]

Does either Carbink or Komo have any fusions with the best Pokémon yet?

[glass patio]

you mean minior?

[rancid nymph]

I said the best Pokémon

[glass patio]

ok shedinja will keep being my favorite pokemon but in terms of fusions i kinda like minior more

omg i have such a big minior obsession

https://tenor.com/view/minior-minior-pokemon-pokemon-i-only-stand-for-one-flag-minior-nation-gif-23996712

[proud lion]

#1300606969324900353

[rancid nymph]

Also, I guess you can add Minior to my previous question

[glass patio]

hmmm

so what is the best pokemon

[next flare]

Not victini

[rancid nymph]

Read my name and you’ll have your answer

[glass patio]

can you look at this peak #sprite-gallery message

no minior weavile yet

[glass patio]

i don’t think any of the kommo-o line members have fusions with weavile

[glass patio]

nvm

but carbink looks objectively better

[rancid nymph]

My boy’s got bling 😎

[glass patio]

so carbink wins

[fallen loom]

I like Kommo-o's doofy face

[alpine rune]

I'm still confused on how Carbink doesn't evolve to Diancie

[inland jewel]

Kommo is funny

but also keep in mind that spriters only make up a small portion of the community

not to mention the people who voted for Kommo-o aren't really spriters, while the person who put Carbink into the raffle are spriters

and then ease of spriting

Kommo-o has a ton of scales that people have to account for, Carbink is just rock textures with gems

ntm, carbink bodies are far easier to work with than kommo-o bodies

[inland jewel]

If the polls remain the same, we shall be seeing Salazzle next year

[hot hamlet]

Sorry for popping in randomly but Fusions is going off on their own tangents.
Working on my Plush theme, choice comes down to Banette/Tyranitar (substitute plushie) or Banette/Gardevoir (holding a giant plush Ursaring. Bonus for having a completed line)
Can I get a second?

[full bison]

Oboy, can't wait to see the sprite channel once she drops

[shadow kiln]

I prefer gardevoir aesthetically, but Tyrannitar is my beloved.

Plus it's funny to have something so ridiculously strong look like the replacement doll.

[hot hamlet]

For the record, whichever gets picked is excluded from future fusions in the theme

[inland jewel]

i think tyranitar would be better

[hot hamlet]

K

[shadow kiln]

It's just the best mon.

[inland jewel]

it would explain why the subtitute doll can take a hit

its powerful

but also ghost/dark is a good typing

unless the fusion is ghost/rock

[hot hamlet]

Now I just have to think of a 6th mon after Mimikyu (fusion pending), Bewear/Slaking, Banette/Tyranitar, Amaura/Snorlax, and Teddiursa/Cyndaquil (unless someone has a better for that)

[shadow kiln]

I went for the sarcoffagus mon and Mimikyu for the king in yellow reference.

[inland jewel]

how about a mareep fusion

[hot hamlet]

[shadow kiln]

The theme is plushies specifically?

[inland jewel]

then again you can also use Whimsicott/cottonee for fluff]

[prime dust]

they are indeed the Fluffy type

[rain locust]

is there an existing fusion that looks like the substitute

[hot hamlet]

Yeah. Checking Whimsicott rn

[hot hamlet]

Banette/T-Tar

[rain locust]

noo way

[hot hamlet]

I think Mimikyu has one

[shadow kiln]

Struggling to remember mon names

[rain locust]

shedinja

[hot hamlet]

Not a single plush Whimsicott. Same for Altaria

[glass patio]

official minior plush when

[shadow kiln]

Hypno wobbuffet

[hot hamlet]

Mad Dummy?

[glass patio]

w people that make minior plushies

[shadow kiln]

Hey it's close enough.

[glass patio]

lmfao

[eager jungle]

[glass patio]

Ohhh you meant plush sprites

Wait

I think you mentioned this once

Plush team without repeating the pokemon iirc right?

[hot hamlet]

I’m checking Ursaring rn because I really don’t want to run with a baby evo of Typhlosion or Ursaring

Less baby Evos in general the better

[eager jungle]

-# will probably take a total of 12h or something similar before spritework

BTW people

When you sprite a Minior meteor body

It's fun to make the head ride the minior like a wrecking ball

[hot hamlet]

Idk I like the idea of Whimsicott/Minior to be a Minior pillow

[hot hamlet]

I’ll go slow in my run as right after I mentioned this the wheel landed on Pirate run

[eager jungle]

X)

[hot hamlet]

What can you do? I’m a slave to RNG

[shadow kiln]

Man it's weird how I feel like I've seen a million plushie fusions and now can't find any.

[hot hamlet]

Well if I don’t want Teddiursa it really comes down to these two, or again Banette and Bewear

Hmm… this theme may have to get put back in the oven to cook. I’ll make a request once my last request is either taken or expires

[carmine cloud]

is victini in the game yet

[civic harness]

Maybe... there is only one slot yet

[carmine cloud]

wdym one slot yet

you mean one slot left?

[civic harness]

Did you read #announcements ?

[hot hamlet]

We’re waiting on the 500th Pokémon reveal

[carmine cloud]

500th one is the last one ever?

[hot hamlet]

Of this update

[carmine cloud]

oh

well i remember last august or so

[hot hamlet]

And foreseeable future

[carmine cloud]

victini was part of the pokemon vote

but lost

[full bison]

Everything lines up for Victini to be the last reveal, but who knows what shenanigans Frog could pull

[civic harness]

The next ones for the next year probably

[carmine cloud]

...finally

[proud lion]

Maybe Krimus

[hot hamlet]

Frog pulls a troll and adds Volcanion “you guys wanted a fire type, right?”

[civic harness]

Really? Like 510 in total?

[carmine cloud]

finally my old design can get some use

[civic harness]

Or 520 like the votes of two year before

[hot hamlet]

We going up to 500

[civic harness]

Im saying, later

[hot hamlet]

Oh. We don’t know

[proud lion]

"Here are your Unova Starters"
"uh oh. Simi-kyyyyyy!"

[eager jungle]

Number 500 is ||Bruxish²||

[full bison]

The big assumptions people have for the last reveal are either Victini cause of association with celebration and the number 5, Diancie cause we're getting Carbink, Pachirisu cause we don't have any Pikaclones in yet, or Luvdisc because haha funny troll

[hot hamlet]

Can’t. Need 4 for Simispark

[carmine cloud]

number 500 should be dark meta knight

[proud lion]

||This better be a troll and not Undertale noises||

[hot hamlet]

DMK is already in game

I forget the combo

[carmine cloud]

no way

now ay

[shadow kiln]

It's ditto something.

Like Kirby.

[carmine cloud]

aegislash + ditto

[shadow kiln]

Yeah

[carmine cloud]

is that it

and its an alt right

[hot hamlet]

I mean, I considered him or Galacta Knight when I had to replace Meta Knight in my Kirby Run (I chose Morpho Knoght)

[latent karma]

I was hoping for either Komala or Blachephalon

[full bison]

I'm down for Blacephalon but I'm really doubting any UB gets added this update

[carmine cloud]

it has to be victini

[grave jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

obvious pick tbh :3

[full bison]

If we do end up getting an ultra beast at some point I hope that they're revealed with a sort-of horror setup

[surreal scaffold]

Pachirisu is like my third pick for 500, behind Luvdisc & Tropious.

[outer matrix]

whatever pokemon is 500 is going to have a lot of pressure placed onto them

[surreal scaffold]

I just hope it's SOMETHING other than Gen 6 or 7

[rain locust]

diancie or heatran would be cool

[full bison]

I do genuinely think it would be odd for 500 to not be a big celebratory addition like a mythical

[austere sand]

Gotta be Diancie.

[surreal scaffold]

Bruxish was last year

[ember plover]

I'm ambivalent but someone made a Victini fusion with my Bulbasaur base so uh
Victini LETS GOOOOoooo

[west sonnet]

Victini imo

[grave jolt]

Idea for victini event: After defeating every trainer in the game, Victini appears on the top on Mt Silver.

[full bison]

Common randomizer W

[gray vine]

scared me lul

thought it was actually revealed

[ember plover]

Wydm of course it's been revealed

[grave jolt]

imagine it; you've defeated every trainer. There's no more challenges in the world. you decide to do what Red did canonically, and go to the top of the world only to find what appears to be Victini from afar...
as you approach, however, you realize it's something far different.

It's a Magicarp.

[ember plover]

Victini confirmed for #0, #500, and #1000

[dusty arrow]

ICE TYPE MAGIKARP?!

[ember plover]

Super ultra MEGAKARP? Nooooo, shhh, he is legend!

[grave jolt]

even better, it's the super rare Red Magicarp here to make up for the troll of Red Gyarados!

[dusty arrow]

nah

its ice type magikarp

[ember plover]

It's Missingno. and when you catch its an ice type with a Magikarp sprite

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/missingno-my-beloved-missingno-my-beloved-heart-locket-makesweet-gif-27075742

[quasi elm]

Does kirby have two? I think wigglytuff and dragonite is also kirby

[shadow kiln]

Yeh

[dusty arrow]

have you done metagross/dragonite?

theres also machamp/empoleon

[hot hamlet]

Excellent fusion and name pun.
Sprite is below the screen in a battle.

I tried Metanite in a Kirby run way back. Whoever made the sprite put it on the very bottom of the canvas so it drops below the battle screen and is hugging the bottom of the summary

Could not use it for an HoF pic then so had to replace it late in the run (went with Morpho Knight, Volcarona/Jigglypuff iirc) became MVP despite starting around Cinnabar

[dusty arrow]

ohh okay

i wish there were more wigglytuff fusions since

yknow

jigglypuff isnt exactly the best

[full bison]

I was so sad when I saw the Darkrai/Dragonite fusion had the name Darknite but it doesn't have an alt that's just Batman

[dusty arrow]

ikr?

i want a meganium/yanmega joke alt thats just like

the mega evolution symbol

[shadow kiln]

A mega stone.

[dusty arrow]

or a mega stone yeah

[shadow kiln]

Hell the mega thingie the trainer uses but it's just the arm with it on.

[dusty arrow]

honestly i want more yanmega fusions as a whole

[dusty arrow]

bracelet?

[shadow kiln]

Yeah

[dusty arrow]

and the alts could be the different versions

like yanmega (or meganium) with dhelmise could be the anchor archie has

[shadow kiln]

Yanmega needs love man

[dusty arrow]

true

[full bison]

Yanmega is straight up one of the strongest fusion mats in the game but it barely gets any sprites. Such injustice

[dusty arrow]

so real

[shadow kiln]

Ik it's normal for all mon to have fusions that are just a recolor and/or adding some features of the og mon but the theme and look of yanmega really lends itself for imaginative fusions.

And instead you get green seadra with red eyes kicking your teeth in.

[dusty arrow]

are there any ultra necrozma fusions that are a reference to alien x?

[shadow kiln]

I think so yeah

[full bison]

I think there's one that uses Arceus

[shadow kiln]

Clefable most probably

On my phone rn so can't confirm but you could check a ben 10 fusion you know ansd search by artist.

[full bison]

?tag preferences

[opal trail]

No tag preferences found.

[dusty arrow]

after looking throuh the infinite fusion dex

[full bison]

?tag spreferences

[opal trail]

Are you looking for sprite references? Use the Dropbox to find what you are looking for: Dropbox Link

[full bison]

Thanks autocorrect.

[dusty arrow]

i have discovered that the fusion with the highest attack that isnt a legendary, rampardos, or slaking, is rhyperior/haxorus

[shadow kiln]

Oh there's that? I need the THO ones

[mortal cedar]

Yanmega is overhyped. Anyone using it generally just wants a Mon with Speed Boost.

[full bison]

The Tinted Lens in question

[dusty arrow]

vice versa is.. technically double chandelure, but not counting that its chandelure/alakazam

[full bison]

Hydreigon/Yanmega is straight up a top tier pick in the Showdown server and Speed Boost is banned

[shadow kiln]

Idk I just think it looks really cool and hits really hard.

[mortal cedar]

I think this is false…if you mean raw attack stat and not including Huge Power or Marowak I’m pretty sure the title goes to base Aegislash….

[dusty arrow]

i mean yeah technically

[full bison]

Yanmega was suspect tested too I'm pretty sure

[shadow kiln]

Was thinking speed boost could be useful for some moves but haven't found one that uses speed buffs yet.

[dusty arrow]

but its base is the defense form, so i didnt really count it

but yeah an aegislash fusion would be the best, gimme a sec

[full bison]

Stored Power and Power Trip

Also Electro Ball

[dusty arrow]

aegislash/shuckle and.. shuckle/aegislash, shocker

[mortal cedar]

Aegislash just kinda built like that…

[shadow kiln]

Was about to say yah

But I think Electro Ball is the only one that uses speed specifically.

Internet not cooperating rn

[dusty arrow]

actually gonna use this in my mono/rock run
im gonna be running iron head, diamond storm (shuckle gets that via tutor), earthquake maybe, and kings shield

[full bison]

Funny enough, when Carbink gets added, an Aegislash/Carbink fusion will have the exact same defenses, just with a way better type

[dusty arrow]

no

no it wont

carbink has 150 in defenses while shuckle has 230 iirc

yep

so uh, no shuckle would still be better

[mortal cedar]

I found that Yanmega/Feraligatr was the best I could find sprite-wise.

[full bison]

I meant that an Aegislash Carbink fusion will still have the same 150 defenses, not that

[dusty arrow]

i mean yeah fair

steel/fairy is the best typing and rock/ghost isnt the worst

but i feel like the lesser defenses/offenses will be very noticable

[mortal cedar]

If anyone actually wants to check out Yanmega/Feraligatr, please do, actually a pretty cool Mon with an amazing sprite.

[dusty arrow]

especially if you will be running a 3 attack + kings shield set, which you probably will

[mortal cedar]

No.

[dusty arrow]

that is really cool actually

[shadow kiln]

Let me see if the dex let's me see in phone.

[dusty arrow]

i really like the toxapex/yanmega, although it probably isnt the best stat wise

[mortal cedar]

You go Shadow Sneak, Iron Head, Kings Shield and Swords Dance. Always.

Sacred Sword is nice coverage, but there’s no singular type that resists both Steel and Ghost.

[dusty arrow]

i feel like shadow sneak is actually worse off

because you will be left with your pitiful defenses after going first and get hit

2 attacks (non priority), sd, and kings shield is probably best

especially for a shuckle or carbink

[full bison]

If it makes you feel better, Toxapex Fusions have a bit better offenses than you may think cause they can abuse Merciless. Though there's probably better abusers of that than this fusion. Still cool tho

[dusty arrow]

darkrai/yanmega is really good as well

[mortal cedar]

With a single Swords Dance, Shadow Sneak ohko’s anything that is weak to it, including powerful threats like Mewtwo, Deoxys and even two shots Lugia.

[shadow kiln]

Went for yanmega flygon myself.

[dusty arrow]

i would still prefer the reliability of non priority imo, but we can use our own sets

[mortal cedar]

I’ve tested a lot of Aegislash sets, and Shadow Sneak is just the most consistent.

Aegislash only needs two Swords Dances to ohko an entire team with Shadow Sneak.

[dusty arrow]

also the thing is

my fusion im gonna be running wont have stab shadow sneak anyway

[mortal cedar]

Steel/Rock?

[dusty arrow]

yep

the set ill probably run is iron head, diamond storm (since tutor), sd, and kings shield

[mortal cedar]

In that case, Shell Smash my dude.

Don’t bother with King’s shield, go full balls to the walls.

[dusty arrow]

im not running shell smash on something with 23 speed

[mortal cedar]

You still have Shadow Sneak.

It may not be stab, but it is priority.

[dusty arrow]

swords dance and shell smash would give the same boost

[mortal cedar]

…Fair point.

I’m not gonna lie, you aren’t bulky enough to tank hits.

[dusty arrow]

even with max evs, ivs, and a + speed nature, its only 159 speed

[mortal cedar]

Even with 200 defense you still only have 40 base hp.

[dusty arrow]

cant even outspeed a maxed out 100 base speed mon

[dusty arrow]

also im curious

should it be a 252 attack or 252 defense? im not really sure how stance change works outside of

[mortal cedar]

No…

[dusty arrow]

"swap defense/spdef and attack/spatk"

[mortal cedar]

Max Hp.

Max hp is required.

Without Max HP you end up less bulky than mons like Haxorus.

As in, actually pretty fragile.

[dusty arrow]

well yeah i know max hp

[full bison]

Something I just thought of that makes me sad. We have access to both Kommo-o and Minior when the update drops, but Clangorous Soul, a move that would synergize perfectly with Shields Down, is a Gen 8 thing and therefore not happening

[dusty arrow]

and no z-moves

this is sad

[mortal cedar]

Max Defense I believe…

[dusty arrow]

clangorous soul + zen mode galarian darmanitan

[mortal cedar]

It flat out swaps the stats, including EV’s…

[full bison]

But that means no monke mode

[mortal cedar]

I mean…Minior is gonna be ridiculous no matter what.

[dusty arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/galar-darmanitan-spinning-gif-14575733608549402903

[dusty arrow]

i think i have to put evs into the attacking stat

[mortal cedar]

Plus, just wait till we get Xerneas.

[dusty arrow]

thats what it looks like on the smogon page but idk if thats different in pif

[mortal cedar]

Then we experience true horror.

[full bison]

Eeehh, it's really not that much different than fusing something with a Mythical. Can't even abuse the high offense boost and defense boost at once

[mortal cedar]

Shields Down + Geomancy is going to be so busted…

[full bison]

Also minors moveset kinda sucks

[dusty arrow]

bibarel is gonna rule the meta

[mortal cedar]

Geomancy is blatantly not fair…

[dusty arrow]

i mean hey.. it at least gets power gem for special attacking rocks

[mortal cedar]

The most unbalanced move of all time.

[dusty arrow]

its special set would be like

[full bison]

Nah that's Last Respects

[dusty arrow]

power gem
earthquake
a good move from the fusion mon
shell smash

[mortal cedar]

I’d argue Geomancy is many times stronger.

[dusty arrow]

so a move that you can only use when your entire team is dead is stronger than a free +2 in every stat

[dusty arrow]

nvm it doesnt get earth power in gen 7

[full bison]

Base 300 power plus it was introduced in the same Gen as Revival Blessing

[dusty arrow]

it at least gets dazzling gleam, i guess

[dusty arrow]

that involves centering your entire team around that one mon btw

you can just slap geomancy xerneas onto your team and call it a day

about as brain dead as calyrex-s

[full bison]

And it got banned within a few days, so?

Centering the entire strategy around Houndstone led to a busted meta

[dusty arrow]

also the two mons with it are slow outside of scarf/the weather abilities

scarf isnt good since normal types exist

the weather abilities are good at it yes, but basculegion has a better ability to use and houndstone is just worse than basculegion

[mortal cedar]

Quite frankly, there still are ways of playing around Last Respects.

[full bison]

And Geomancy needs Red Herb to be good, so no Life Orb

[dusty arrow]

power herb

[full bison]

Also does nothing for defense

[mortal cedar]

It doesn’t….

[dusty arrow]

?????

[mortal cedar]

2 turns is less than you think it is.

[dusty arrow]

oh wait right

i was thinking of clangorous soul not geomancy

oops

[mortal cedar]

I mean…atleast it’s not Z-Geomancy.

[dusty arrow]

ah yes

free +3

honestly i hope xurkitree gets added

he would be the silliest goober

173 special attack with tail glow

[mortal cedar]

Can you imagine if they actually did bring back Z-Geomancy…

[dusty arrow]

no thanks

[full bison]

Xurkitree would be banned about as fast as Flutter Mane due to that SpAtt and Tail Glow

[dusty arrow]

also im just saying

[mortal cedar]

Xurkitree sucks.

[dusty arrow]

in national dex

xerneas is in AG

[mortal cedar]

It’s too slow.

[dusty arrow]

[𝐄𝐗𝐓𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐄𝐋𝐘 𝐋𝐎𝐔𝐃 𝐈𝐍𝐂𝐎𝐑𝐑𝐄𝐂𝐓 𝐁𝐔𝐙𝐙𝐄𝐑]

[full bison]

In the context of IF it would be overpowered

It's stats aside from SpAtt aren't that low, and a body fusion can easily make that Speed manageable

[dusty arrow]

also like

speed boosters exist

[mortal cedar]

I feel as though it’s less broken than many other mons…

Like Prankster Spore…

[dusty arrow]

so a good strat has some strats that are better than it there for.. its bad

sound logic to me

[mortal cedar]

Xurkitree would be really good in a vacuum, sure.

173 SPA and when fused with a Speed Boost Mon it would hit like a truck.

[dusty arrow]

more than a truck but ok

also it doesnt even need a speed boost btw

[mortal cedar]

But I frankly don’t see it being any better than any of the other busted mons.

[dusty arrow]

there are so many other strats

[mortal cedar]

83 Base Speed…….

[dusty arrow]

serperior

contrary leaf storm

[mortal cedar]

???

Serperior is good because it’s fast and bulky along with having Contrary + Leaf Storm

[dusty arrow]

serperior wont lose too much bulk from xurkitree, and xurkitree will actually boost the health

sure it wont be as fast, but regardless

[mortal cedar]

It’s still too slow.

[dusty arrow]

also i think we are forgetting one massive key issue with this whole argument

what would people find fun to use in the game

[mortal cedar]

???

[dusty arrow]

pif hasnt had a competitive scene until rather recently

so up until now it was just design and how fun it is to use pretty much

[mortal cedar]

This conversation was never about the game itself….it was about comp.

[dusty arrow]

would people have fun with a xurkitree fusion? probably

[mortal cedar]

In game, sure, Xurkitree would be busted.

I’m saying in Comp it would be powerful but still not this unbeatable monster.

[dusty arrow]

i..

never said it was unbeatable??

im just saying it would be pretty strong, excuse me??

[full bison]

83 speed is absolutely trivial for a fast body Mon to patch up. A fast enough fusion for Xurkitree would absolutely turn it into a monster

[mortal cedar]

I’d argue it would barely stay in UU when people realize just how meh it is…

[alpine rune]

Guys, what we need is tapu lele

[full bison]

Heck, I'd argue it could become a Neo-Naganadel if it gets a high enough Speed stat to rig Beast Boost into buffing that

[dusty arrow]

uhh

about that..

[mortal cedar]

I could see it wreaking havoc in doubles with Tailwind.

[dusty arrow]

in national dex.. where its definitely a lot more powerful than regular pif..

[mortal cedar]

We’re talking about IF here…

Not base game.

[dusty arrow]

THATS POKEATHLON

THATS NOT SHOWDOWN

ITS POKEATHLON

[alpine rune]

That's IF

Look how there's fusion/body

[dusty arrow]

WHERE INFINITE FUSION BATTLES ARE HELD‼️

hes in ubers in natdex

and you think he would be uu in base game pif

[mortal cedar]

Ah.

[full bison]

I feel like I've started something that's snowballed out of my control

[dusty arrow]

i too feel like that sometimes

[mortal cedar]

Yeh.

[alpine rune]

We definitely want tapu lele

I just want the terrain setters, imagine the dynamics

[mortal cedar]

Rillaboom go brrrr..

[alpine rune]

No gen 8 though

[mortal cedar]

Awwww….

The Tapu’s could be fun.

Though I imagine only Lele and Fini would be actually used.

[alpine rune]

The only reason I don't play showdown IF is that there's too many regenerator stall Pokémon in the OU meta and rarely anyone plays AG unless you invite someone

[dusty arrow]

mfw koko and bulu can finally get physical fairy stab:

[alpine rune]

I'm thinking of Koko with a strong electric type would be deadly

[mortal cedar]

Koko might be decent.

[dusty arrow]

bulu is my favorite of the tapus, hes a physical attacker, and the only fairy move (outside of tera blast) is dazzling gleam bruh

[full bison]

I so badly want other Pokemon to be given the Surge abilities

[dusty arrow]

this shit suck

s

[alpine rune]

Heck, pika/Koko light ball electric terrain would be the next miraidon if anything

[alpine rune]

IKR

[mortal cedar]

Actually wait……..

[full bison]

I don't want to be prevented from using Surge abilities until the postgame

[mortal cedar]

Bulu with Blissey might actually be a bit scary.

[alpine rune]

True as well especially when typing wise, bulu body would be fairy

[full bison]

Does Blissey get Heal Bell or Refresh? Cause losing Natural Cure would be disappointing

[mortal cedar]

Heal Bell.

[alpine rune]

Yes it gets that

Blissey and Chansey is banned to Ubers in IF btw

Because of their HP

[dusty arrow]

finally let my boy have a usable fairy move

[alpine rune]

LMAO

[mortal cedar]

I feel like Tapu Fini might actually be a Meta Staple.

Not even joking.

[bronze barn]

[alpine rune]

Does misty terrain prevent sleep status I forgot

[mortal cedar]

All status.

[dusty arrow]

thats electric terrain

misty is just better lmao

[full bison]

I've seen people thinking that Lele would be straight up banned cause it's already super good at slinging special attacks and can be made speedy

[alpine rune]

Yea I only remember electric terrain, I never used misty terrain before

[dusty arrow]

electric: prevents sleep
misty: prevents status
psychic: prevents priority
grassy: heals

[bronze barn]

It prevents

All status

No internet

[mortal cedar]

Fini preventing Sleep would be huge against all these Spore mons.

[alpine rune]

That's why fusing with Deoxys would be funny

[bronze barn]

Do we even have expanding force?

[dusty arrow]

this makes me think

[full bison]

No Expanding Force cause no Gen 8 stuff

[dusty arrow]

is any calyrex fusion technically a triple fusion

well calyrex rider fusion

[alpine rune]

Still, in singles psycho boost would still be Hella deadly

140 base power psychic move

[full bison]

Okay but consider this

[alpine rune]

I feel like at that point defensive tyranitar would rise up with pursuit

[full bison]

Lurantis has Contrary

[mortal cedar]

Koko is always a weird one in my mind, cause I never expect it to do anything but it always seems to surpass my expectations.

[full bison]

Contrary Psycho Boost

[mortal cedar]

Koko has low offensive stats, low defensive stats and a meh movepool.

Great speed though.

Somehow a great Mon despite that.

And I legit don’t know how.

[alpine rune]

Yea but Lurantis kinda slow, so it's best used with scarf, lele would be a more consistent user with fairy moves to stop dark types that blocks psychic moves

[dusty arrow]

115 attack isnt bad

[dusty arrow]

its just the fact that both of his typings have shitty physical moves

[full bison]

physical Electric type

[mortal cedar]

Not bad, just kinda meh for Uber.

Also, Wild Charge….

Sucks.

[alpine rune]

This I starting to sound like #showdown-general discussion

[full bison]

I have no idea why Gamefreak has decided that physical Electric types deserve to suffer

Supercell Slam was a confession that it's on purpose

[dusty arrow]

at least he still has good speed and a decent special attacking stat

bulu has 85 spatk and 75 speed

[mortal cedar]

Again, I usually underestimate Koko a lot because of his stats, so take most of my criticism of him with a grain of salt.

[dusty arrow]

all of the pokemon i like get fucked over by gamefreak jesus christ

my favorite pokemon (other than ice type magikarp) is regigigas so i think this speaks for itself

[full bison]

Meanwhile my favorite is a banlist staple cause the idea of Naganadel being a balanced Pokemon is ludicrous

[mortal cedar]

My favorite Pokémon was Emboar for a good while…till they stopped putting him in games for like 8 years…

[alpine rune]

A lot of strats are banned to Ubers or even AG because of ridiculous abilities on non shit mons

[dusty arrow]

funbro

[mortal cedar]

It took almost a decade to get my boy Emboar back….

[alpine rune]

Slaking is banned because of his sheer power while huge power I banned because of how broken it is on a strong mon

[mortal cedar]

Is Spore banned yet?

[alpine rune]

I feel like for the tapus, it would still be Ubers but the Surge abilities are banned to ag

[alpine rune]

Yes they are

[dusty arrow]

btw chat am i evil for this

[mortal cedar]

Thank god.

[mortal cedar]

Why do I hear screaming?

[dusty arrow]

(its tera psychic)

[mortal cedar]

Spiritomb go brrr.

[dusty arrow]

fair argument

[full bison]

And I thought the idea of Simple Geomancy was evil

[dusty arrow]

but anything that isnt shedinja or a dark type is gonna be hurting

even a 4x resist would still be hurt lol

[alpine rune]

AV steel/ttar with pursuit: Bonjour

[mortal cedar]

Actually…

Doesn’t Scizor wall that?

[alpine rune]

Wall is a light term, you still need bulk to actually take a hit and fight back though

[full bison]

Imagine Xerneas/Swoobat with Simple+Geomancy+Stored Power

[mortal cedar]

…Fair point.

Wait.

[alpine rune]

Ttar with Scizor could

[mortal cedar]

Did I hear Swoobat?

[dusty arrow]

uh.. funny you mention that..

[alpine rune]

Oh yea quiver dance is banned lmao

Because of simple

[mortal cedar]

Uhhh.

I feel as though Stored Power would be kinda wasted.

[full bison]

Stored Power after a Simple Geomancy is like 260 power I think

[mortal cedar]

Especially with the drop in stats for it.

[alpine rune]

Drop in stats?

[full bison]

Base 260 power off of +4 SpAtt and +4 Speed is always going to be absurd

[alpine rune]

You would get +3 in speed Spdef and spa, that stored power would be at least like 240+ base power

[mortal cedar]

Body is Swoobat?

[alpine rune]

Yes that's what the image shows us

[dusty arrow]

3 +4s
base 20
20 (0), 40 (1), 60 (2), 80 (3), 100 (4), 120 (5), 140 (6), 160 (7), 180 (8), 200 (9), 220 (10), 240 (11), 260 (12)

you are correct

[full bison]

Base 260 power after only one turn of setup is completely unfair

Stored Power really is the ultimate litmus test move. It's basically only good on broken things

[mortal cedar]

Don’t you just die to Calyrex-Shadow though?

Or any Uber Ghost type?

[dusty arrow]

yeah you do

i just thought it would be funny

[mortal cedar]

Fair.

[dusty arrow]

also speaking of funny im makin another thing

just need to figure out the third move

[mortal cedar]

Is it Huge power with Shell Smash and stab Aqua Jet?

[alpine rune]

Nah, what you need is someone to actually play with you

[dusty arrow]

nah

[mortal cedar]

Is it Marowak/Azumarill Holding a Thick Club and having the Huge Power Ability with the moves Belly Drum and Aqua Jet?

[dusty arrow]

that would be funny but nah

[polar crown]

Just to confirm, there are three pokemon for the 500 dex that we are missing, right?

Nevermind, I mean one, number 500, right?

[mortal cedar]

Is it Terrakion/Togekiss with the ability Serene Grace holding a choice scarf with the move Rock Slide?

No?

[dusty arrow]

i just like clamperl

[mortal cedar]

Kinda underwhelming.

[dusty arrow]

change shell armor to beast boost obviously

[dusty arrow]

626 base special sttack without shell smash

well not base but-

you know what i mean

[mortal cedar]

Uhhh….I Trick a scarf onto you?

[dusty arrow]

im fucked

but i still like clamperl

[mortal cedar]

I have my Clamperl/Swoobat up front and use the move Imprison?

[dusty arrow]

again

im dead

[mortal cedar]

Hmmm….

Clamperl’s pretty cool.

[dusty arrow]

base clamperl with deep sea tooth has higher spatk than mega mewtwo y lmao

[mortal cedar]

I’m heading to bed…

[dusty arrow]

alr, good night

[unkempt stone]

Wha is going on

[rain locust]

no bc you get walled by shed

[golden acorn]

That's what I'm wondering about too

Do the forms count as one spot each or does Minior count as a whole as one Slot?

[full bison]

Two slots for meteor and core, the colors are all altsprites

[prime dust]

[dusty arrow]

shedinja this shedinja that- how about you shed on these nuts

[eager jungle]

.......

[hexed agate]

Don't shed on me

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lmao-wait-what-i-cant-even-smiling-gif-22861281

[sterile spoke]

Friends, it's time for us all to unite under the banner of Ribombee. ❤️

https://tenor.com/view/ribombee-pokemon-mallow-lana-pollen-gif-538074989533683093

[alpine rune]

but theres only 1 slot left

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-tobias-menzies-lincoln-manhunt-with-all-due-respect-never-gif-633361988029081935

[sterile spoke]

Cutiefly can't make it because it's on holiday. 🙂

[sterile spoke]

I didn't know I had a least favourite mod, but here we are. 😛

[eager jungle]

take a ticket and go at the end of the line, you're not the first one x)

[unkempt kernel]

We all know the next mon is Yamper

[eager jungle]

nah, next mon is black belt

[sterile spoke]

That's not happening for like 12 different reasons. 😂

Let's petition for F-00. 🙂

[unkempt kernel]

It was satire

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-squirrel-pokemon-pokemon-pachirisu-adorable-gif-17099886384054803802

Squirrel tho

[sterile spoke]

I know. 😛

[eager jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-monster-hunter-world-tobi-kadachi-tobi-kadachi-gif-17325381374669358781

same vibe

[finite reef]

It would be funny if the 500th pokemon was just Stakataka for no particular reason

[unkempt kernel]

Well that’s a potential ref sprite if we do get Pach

[full bison]

I'd be down for Stakataka opening the door to the other UBs, but I feel like the first one added would probably be either Poipole or Nihilego

[eager jungle]

poipole not possible

it's a 2 stage

[sterile spoke]

Poipole would have to come with Naganadel, of course, so that's not going to be happening for this wave. 😅

Damn, you explained my point quicker and in a more concise way. 😛

[eager jungle]

2fast4u

[full bison]

I know. I'm not saying they're going to be added this update. I'm talking in general

[eager jungle]

[dusty arrow]

i am the live

[velvet root]

Would actually be fun to have

[hexed agate]

Just convinced frog to never add Poipole

Never ever times infonity

[deft obsidian]

Registeel/mime,jr

[civic harness]

The 500th

[dusty arrow]

thats what im sayin

[bronze barn]

NOOOOOOO

Pory how could you do this to me

[trail hull]

power abuse , let's start the revolution

[dusty arrow]

not again

this already happened last year

[shadow kiln]

How did it go?

[eager jungle]

[trail hull]

it happened last year?

[shadow kiln]

Understandable.

I'll be postponing my coup.

[rancid nymph]

Now can you convince frog to remove the demon lizard from the game?

[ripe wigeon]

The last one to be added might be Diancie. Since Diamond Storm was removed from the expert move list in 6.3.0beta. Legendary expert moves are usually removed when the corresponding legendary Pokémon is added.

or it’s just a beautiful mistake.

[trail hull]

if 500 happen to not be diancie don't forget to report

[wide merlin]

it's hard to wait ONE Week for the last pokemon .

[coral axle]

Not entirely

Idm waiting

[outer matrix]

There's lots of things to do in the meantime

like making fusions

[dark prism]

we will never get zangoose and seviper

[proud bluff]

500 is gonna be illumise

thoughts??

[silent acorn]

What a bright claim

Illuminated even

But

Doesnt burn the sky

[proud bluff]

but it could!

nothing a little necrozium cant fix

[silent acorn]

I find it funny people telling me you can't add zangoose or Seviper by themselves...

But like Illumise and Volbeat are even more counterparts

Its like adding only Plusle

[proud bluff]

pokemon colosseum moment

[elfin goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/espurr-pokemon-meowwwwww-espurr-pokemon-gif-3992422962731875559

[velvet root]

That cat is fun

I just wonder how the gender base evos will work

[full bison]

Their stats are identical, so it's a matter of if the different hidden abilities and movepools are distinct enough for them to be separate slots

[thin nova]

Hey

I have a great idea

You all know every month New sprites comes out. What if the next month is an event month? Do memes. I think its a great idea

[outer matrix]

I'm pretty sure that April fools events usually do that with submitting memes

[velvet root]

they do?

[trail hull]

our event onth are generally october , may and december tho we also have sprite rush throught out the year

[full bison]

Male Meowstic gets Prankster, Female gets Competitive. Male mostly gets support moves, Female gets somewhat better coverage. other than that they're the same

[trail hull]

male and female are different enoguh to have 2 different slots

[thin nova]

Oh ok

And what if its a weekly event?

[trail hull]

we have weekly event already

[glass quail]

My theory for the last mon is mimikyu

[trail hull]

texture awards , theme blitz , elusive poekdex entry

[tender plank]

waoh no way

you should totally go check the game right now you won't believe who just got added btw

[velvet root]

Imagine it would already be in

[trail hull]

congrats on applying for spriter

[thin nova]

@trail hull can we talk in private?

[trail hull]

sure

[thin nova]

Write me

[outer matrix]

Is there a pattern with the last Pokémon in an update being a joke addition?

[sullen elbow]

Its busted form mimikyu

[full bison]

kinda? the 420th and "last" addition was Stunfisk, and that was it until the coding got sorted out to add more stuff. and the big update that took advantage of that capped off with Bruxish. That being said I'm not sure that two data points really constitute a trend.

I'm still confident the last entry this time around will be a mythical cause it's a big celebration

[outer matrix]

frog could also pull a 180 and make 500 a joke addition if it isn't a mythical

[atomic hornet]

He does love memes

That's how bruxish an torkoal came to be lol

[fathom ridge]

I low-key expect luvdisc to be the last Mon

[weak trellis]

wait what was the meme with torkoal?

[atomic hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/pokmon-kill-me-im-out-gif-18142494

[fathom ridge]

The gif were it goes underwater

[weak trellis]

ah

[atomic hornet]

His reveal was based around finding and saving him in the water lol

[fathom ridge]

Paya do you know what the last Mon is

[atomic hornet]

Of course, I know everything that goes on in development

[velvet root]

That means I have to make Gogoat a meme too

[fathom ridge]

Blink twice if it is luvdisc

[atomic hornet]

Sometimes I help plan too lol

[velvet root]

Breath if it is Gogoat and we Remove Carbink to make space

[atomic hornet]

Okay I blinked, did you see how many times?

[sullen elbow]

Yes

[full bison]

Sadly the only UB meme we've got is the Guzzlord screaming

[velvet root]

Blacephalon

[fathom ridge]

Hmmm I didn’t think about that

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokémon-blacephalon-jester-michael-jackson-gif-320684585084909410

[full bison]

Haven't really seen any Blacephalon memes aside from calling it Pennywise

[fathom ridge]

I wonder if frog is bold enough to actually add luvdisc as 500

[atomic hornet]

I wouldn't put anything past him

[velvet root]

The gif is a whole meme and it is a meme in the show

[obtuse linden]

every fused pokemon is an error for me

[fathom ridge]

I would support it, but I think the server would implode

[sullen elbow]

What Pokemon could be a joke addition even? luvdisc? Anything else?

[fathom ridge]

Monkeys

Well that’s 6

[sullen elbow]

1 slot

[velvet root]

Chatot maybe

[fathom ridge]

Chatot can at least make PMD references

And it could be cool for heads

[velvet root]

I can see Chatot and Empoleon being cool
A Oper singer (idk how to spell)

[full bison]

The ultimate joke involving Chatot is introducing it alongside Microphone compatibility

Now you too can get banned from the VGC

[outer matrix]

I hope that we get Blacephalon since it fits with the celebration theme (it being a firework) and it's a ghost type --- perfect for a late Halloween reveal

[full bison]

Blacephalon being the first UB would be an interesting situation, but anything that opens the door for the rest of them is OK in my book

[coral axle]

I loveee blacephalon

[hexed agate]

if you think that'd open a door, check out the fossils

[outer matrix]

I forgot how many blacephalon fusions are already present

[fathom ridge]

Blacephalon feels like a crazier Mr mime, I would be down for it

[coral axle]

I would love colorful fusions with headless or bright lights

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/necrozma-anime-pokemon-gif-22517519

[grave jolt]

I absolutely hate the UBs

[outer matrix]

For ultra beast encounters, frog could place an ultra wormhole (or more than one) on the map. Interacting with it will start an encounter with an ultra beast

[grave jolt]

I firmly don't think that they ever had a place in pokemon game at all

[coral axle]

Welp

[outer matrix]

Someone get the mods

[grave jolt]

@bleak cape get them

[bleak cape]

Hllo

[coral axle]

Imagine

[bleak cape]

who

what

[trail hull]

???

[bleak cape]

aight

[trail hull]

I'm glad I missed the atrocity

I do'n tknow what it was

[grave jolt]

Someone posted porn

[bleak cape]

i got them

[grave jolt]

Nice. Thank you

[outer matrix]

Anyways, which ultra beast is your favorite?

[coral axle]

Kartana and Blacephalon

[grave jolt]

I mean I guess Kartana if I had to choose

[hazy fable]

Nihilego

<@&306953740651462656>

[grave jolt]

Ffs

[glossy jewel]

thanks oak

[proud bluff]

Kartana and Blacephelon

maybe Xurkitree

Idk I loved the UBs especially when we got to go to their worlds in USUM

[grave jolt]

I guess nihilego looks like a pokemon, but it looks like one id absolutely hate

[hazy fable]

nihilego is head empty just jelly

[sweet spoke]

This reminds me
i hope we get a UB legends game

but like
entirely focused in ultra space

you don't ever go to the real world

not even once

[proud bluff]

It's so criminal that we didnt get to do ANYTHING in ultra megalopolis

it made me so upset

[grave jolt]

Nintendo should just make the UBs into a separate IP at that point

[outer matrix]

And the entire pokedex is just ultra beasts?

Like new ones

[grave jolt]

Call it the Ultra dex

[hollow creek]

I feel like the 2 most likely mons at this point are victini or luvdisc

unless there's a third troll-y mon im forgetting

[hazy fable]

it would be funny to just throw one of the monkeys there

[hollow creek]

maybe pachirisu or spinda but they're both a massive stretch

[wraith otter]

They're adding oranguru BTW

I am the source fr

Nah I'm kidding imagine tho

[hollow creek]

for as unlikely as a UB is, i would be really happy with any of them'

[hazy fable]

we only have two slots??

[hollow creek]

One

[wraith otter]

I thought there was only 1

Yeah

[hollow creek]

Diance is also a possibility i think

[trail hull]

peopel this day

[trail hull]

it happened again?!

[hollow creek]

Late reply but stakataka

like he'll ever make it to IF

[hazy fable]

was it meant to be a legendary/mythical?

I thought werent gonna get one

[hollow creek]

Frog works in mysterious ways

Last reveal cycle ended with bruxish and cresselia, so i feel like this time around itll be the same, a funee pick or a mythical

[hazy fable]

iirc thats what people discussed here before that werent actually getting a myth/leg and all that will be added were the one in the poll

[outer matrix]

Stakataka vs Necrozma for the most difficult ultra beast to sprite

[full bison]

Kartana with the steel chair

[compact orbit]

Celesteela coming in from the top ropes

[trail hull]

I think buzzwole might be up there too

[west sonnet]

Both have the benefit of big

Kartana may be truly impossible

[bronze barn]

you know the best ultra beast to sprite?

Poipole

yes, I did just "" my own thing

I am pathetic.

[full bison]

Small Kartana Fusions have the benefit of working off the body and can thus shunt the details off onto the head component. Kartana head fusions are basically all attempting to look like paper craft which can be tough to accomplish

Naganadel could be a fun little exercise in Pokemon biology. Its big thing is how its head as Poipole becomes Naganadel's abdomen, and vice versa for Poipole's tail. I'd be interested to see how this idea gets applied to other Pokemon

[bronze barn]

Kartana heads done good

would be like

peak sprites

[full bison]

UBs in general could be peak. Just about all of them bring completely unique themes to the table. Aside from Pheromosa, we have plenty of Waifumons already

[fathom ridge]

I would love stakataka for head fusions specially

[stoic canopy]

We have like 3 waifumons? How is 3 plenty?

[trail hull]

who is the 3rd one, I only know of gardevoir and lopunny

[stoic canopy]

Delphox/braixen. cheating a bit because it’s in the beta but that kinda proves my point better.

[trail hull]

[full bison]

Don't forget Roserade

[trail hull]

conclusion we need macho plants

[stoic canopy]

Ehhhhh, roserade tends to spilt more towards superheroes rather than what I call waifu

[outer matrix]

Make a real life origami of the Pokémon you are fusing kartana with

Use legos or minecraft to help with stakataka fusions

[trail hull]

you humiliated me in several langauges

[outer matrix]

Use different supermodel fashion types for inspiration with pheromosa fusions

[deft obsidian]

Delphox lurnantis meloetta and... froslass?

And JYNX

[full bison]

I imagine a Gardevoir/Pheromosa fusion basically being Lusamine with green hair

[deft obsidian]

There is already random trainer sprite for gardevoir fusion
Kyogre gardevoir = team aqua grant
Garchomp gardevoir = cynthia
Latias(or latios idk) gardevoir = skyla

[full bison]

I would like to see UB fusions referencing those early theories the fandom went wild with, assuming that various characters were UBs in disguise. Like Xurkitree/Scrafty becoming Guzma

[outer matrix]

Lastly:

• use superhero comics as references for buzzwole fusions
• look up rockets for cesteelia

[fallen loom]

Giratina + Mr. Mime = Girahim

[wintry fox]

Some remoraid fusions are missed potential

[earnest mortar]

Wonder what's the final mon to get added

[full bison]

Apparently Diamond Storm isn't available in the Beta so that could hint towards Diancie. Or it could be a mistake, who knows

[outer matrix]

was the move there beforehand?

[tall tangle]

100% Patrat

[hot hamlet]

Lusagreen

[alpine rune]

Guys the correct answer is spinda

I just realized

Since minior has 2 dexes now

Castform is a 4 slot pokemon

[glass patio]

spinda will have a slot for each pattern

trust me

[small knoll]

Suddenly doubles the dex size

[glass patio]

it’s way more than doubling 💀

[stoic canopy]

We’ll take away everyone’s boots until they catch every spinda, all 4 billion of them.

[west sonnet]

All spinda forms show up on poke-radar separately

Using radar turns your screen into pure spinda

[viscid fossil]

"dang it, this is one of the 25,704 spinda that have an autogen for the fusion I want."

[sinful fossil]

not only that, but every pattern has unique interactions for every fusion! Yipee

meaning what like 400 x 2 bil

[hot hamlet]

500x2bil

[prime dust]

no we won't have that

the different patterns will just be alts

[hot hamlet]

So if you want the right one you have to CYCLE through them. GREAT!

[viscid fossil]

I'm imagining all the file names

[hot hamlet]

If Spinda ever got added I’d hope beyond hope that Frog got a proper Randomizer for default wild encounters instead of tying everything to the chosen Dex image

[viscid fossil]

"500.gjaidk.png"

[full bison]

Spriters would start unionizing over the prospect of having to draw 8 Billion unique Fusions of Spinda and Kommo-o

[hot hamlet]

Nah. I think a few would do it solo pro bono if given the chance

[west sonnet]

There are many of us with the ocean madness

[alpine rune]

You're underestimating us

[hot hamlet]

Who underestimated. I actually punched you up by saying you would

[west sonnet]

Lmao clowned on

go us

[full bison]

So guys... Anyone else see the event channel? Specifically the part about a candy thief with a red head?

✌️

[surreal scaffold]

No.

[full bison]

#event-announcements

[surreal scaffold]

I'm only on here, like 5 times in a year

[alpine rune]

I don't get it

[surreal scaffold]

I think its refering to how Minior was recently confirmed to have been added

[full bison]

I think it's hinting at the last reveal

[alpine rune]

What do you think it is

[full bison]

And one of the few red headed Pokemon that's one slot is Victini

[surreal scaffold]

It's referencing a Body type of "Only a head" & It's color is defibed by the Pokédex of 'Red'

[surreal scaffold]

Bruh

Not literally "Head"

[alpine rune]

Wrong it's druddigon

https://tenor.com/view/druddigon-pokemon-pokemon-druddigon-happy-happy-druddigon-gif-8384546911411607714

[surreal scaffold]

Has a body consisting of 'Only' a head

[alpine rune]

Literally impossible because there's no single stage Pokémon that's only a head that's not in the game (ie pyuku)

[surreal scaffold]

Voltorb

[alpine rune]

Well are you saying it's a voltorb² reveal then?

[surreal scaffold]

Ye

Then there's Rotom

Which is weird

[alpine rune]

Guys you are overthinking it

[surreal scaffold]

Cause Rotom is Orange

[alpine rune]

It's basically Heatran to Honour the frog's name

Smh

[surreal scaffold]

But is classified as 'Red'

[full bison]

Aside from Rotom and Minior, the only Pokemon I could find in Bulbapedia that's red, one stage, and consists only of a head is Solrock. Who would be odd to add alone. Also why would it steal candy when it has no mouth

[surreal scaffold]

Exactly

Besides, Solrock in a 'Kitchen?'

It's 3'11"

1.2 Meters tall & probably wide

HOW IS SOLROCK GETTING IN BESIDES THE FRONT DOOR

So no hints for the new mon

[humble lance]

so when are u all thinking the last pokemon reveal is gonna be
thurs or sat/sun

[proud lion]

Saturday

[ripe wigeon]

guys #1295731408353886271 message anyone have time to check if speed related abilities were fixed in beta2? I noticed that the related script lines have been commented out after the report. it's not in the changelog so I'm not sure if this has been fixed yet.

I thought this would have been fixed, but I still see people mentioning these ability bugs in the channel after the beta2 release.

[viscid fossil]

no idea why this is here, but let me grab my sand rush darkrai

[ripe wigeon]

cause I still see people mentioning these ability bugs here these days👀 so

[viscid fossil]

no like
this channel
my results are in #playthrough-talk

[alpine rune]

Sunday like usual

[hot hamlet]

I want it for Halloween

[plush bough]

Now all mons revealed?

[blazing gull]

1 is missing
And thus my hopes of getting the pelipper line in the game have been crushed once again

Alas 😔

[unkempt kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/pachirisu-cute-shiny-pokemon-squirrel-gif-26992650

Pachirisu still has a chance

[blazing gull]

Honestly I'd be happy with pachirisu lol

[unkempt kernel]

Plus we got Minior so this joke can be made in pif

[blazing gull]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

I'm sold

[plush bough]

Same with Salandit/Salazzle 😭

[velvet root]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-4713176

[fleet creek]

I'm a sunny castform believer even if it may not fit

[tender plank]

it would be so funny if it was
and honestly i'd kinda be on board

[sinful smelt]

Fellow wingull enjoyer

[trail hull]

there a high chance it's diancie

also hello everyone

[tender plank]

hello

[sinful smelt]

I'm wondering who will got in. Can't wait!

[unkempt kernel]

Nah, i don't think it'll be carpink

[unkempt kernel]

Ok, but that could also be a bug

[trail hull]

while diancie is very likey I hope it's luvdisc

[unkempt kernel]

Nah, its the squirrel because thats based and cool

[sinful smelt]

That would be super easy rush for valentines

[trail hull]

yes

[sinful smelt]

Furfrou could be kinda cool, but I imagine it could also be multislot with all the cuts

I think it would be best to have it as only 1 though, and give fusion liberty. But after 2 minior slots, I'm prepared for anything

[trail hull]

unlike minior who has a stat change furfrou is purely cosmetic so unlikely to be multislot

[sinful smelt]

Holy smokes, does it? It appears I know very little about pokemon past gen5 lol

[trail hull]

yep it's just cosmetic

[trail hull]

I know a lot about pokemon starting from gen 5 lol

[sinful smelt]

It's just, I haven't seen good emulators of games past gen5, and I'm a pour man with compassionate hate towards handheld consoles

[trail hull]

joking aside it's because I started paluign pokemon with a gen 6 and 5 game

[marble meadow]

Last slot missingno

[prime dust]

no

that isn't a pokemon

it is a glitch

[velvet root]

Would be funny tbf

[patent dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/diancie-pokemon-kalos-6thgen-gif-gif-18312916

Let her in

[autumn radish]

Honestly, it would make sense if Diancie was added, considering we have Carbink already.

[prime dust]

ah yes, a mon that only knows 3 moves, 2 of which are water gun

and somehow evos into kangaskhan

[patent dagger]

I wanna write the pros and reasons why we should get diancie
But it'll be too long and I think everybody already knows all of it

[tender plank]

i'd say that's perfect for the game! exactly what it needs, really! /j

[patent dagger]

Since diancie is a legendary they'll be doing a big reveal so Idk when it could even be...I want it asap though
(Assuming its diancie cus its the most obvious choice)

[prime dust]

the reveals have been pretty consistent now that the beta is out and frog is getting info on the new repo

so we'll likely see the 500th mon either this upcoming weekend or next week

[patent dagger]

I guess

They've been all 7-10 days

since my beloved floette didn't make it in I might just pokefan diancie if it gets added

[ocean lark]

wishing for dianc||i||e +1

[alpine rune]

Carpink hype

[hexed agate]

I hope your Carpink gets eated by Heatran

[molten loom]

Why heatran?

[hexed agate]

Heatran eats rocks

[molten loom]

But also sableye canonically eats carbinks

[hexed agate]

Bigger rock muncher for the bigger Carbink

[patent dagger]

Why must you be so evil

[viscid fossil]

And mysteriously becomes a rhydon the first time you catch it

[hexed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crunch-cranch-meow-cute-gif-17368992236901678436

[molten loom]

Might be my fault

[patent dagger]

[molten loom]

Dubious disc

[alpine rune]

I can't even say "burn him" because he's already on fire

Mods, give him ice bath

[molten loom]

Made pory unstable

[viscid fossil]

Bottomless shimmer bucket him

[molten loom]

It's because Pory posted loss

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