Hawnestly what would be the best writing Pokémon?
#pif-hoenn-discussion
small tiger
hot hamlet
With the least aesthetic. I can’t see how body fuses would provide anything Pidgeot doesn’t already do better, and the head color scheme is bland
celest bobcat
Hawnestly what would be the best writing Pokémon?
Unown
terse fable
Like there's other mons I definitely want over staraptror, but they aren't a bad looking birb by any means
stuck bane
Hawnestly what would be the best writing Pokémon?
Very few Pokémon speak let alone write, I guess writing is kind of handled by the unown already?
hot hamlet
Again, I’d like some example images of how creative these can be as rn I’m not getting a good feel for their “uniqueness”
terse fable
🙄
stuck bane
I mean, swellow is far less unique than Staraptor, and loathe as I am to say it Unfezant is probably around there too
celest bobcat
Clamperl can bring in Eels
terse fable
Unfezant is better then swellow cmon
stuck bane
Eelektross:
hot hamlet
I voted all the regional starter birbs a 1 btw
celest bobcat
And Gorbyss shell bikini Lol
hot hamlet
I’d rather other stuff in over another Birb
outer matrix
gorebyss for another mermaid inspired fusions? this time based on sirens, due to its dex entries?
terse fable
I gave most birbs 3 to be real, cause I like them, same with bugs
stuck bane
Unfezant is better then swellow cmon
I’ll take your word for it, unfezant at least has color options
terse fable
I’ll take your word for it, unfezant at least has color options
and the eye thing!
hot hamlet
Clampearl would be pretty unique with the focus on oyster pearls over Shelder’s face
terse fable
celest bobcat
https://tenor.com/view/unfezant-pokemon-pokemon-unfezant-male-unfezant-gif-98333...
I'd use that mask
terse fable
yee the maskk
hot hamlet
How would one code Unfezzant anyway? Male and female are vastly different
stuck bane
I still wonder if things would’ve changed if clamperl was in the original vote
||prob not tbh 
||
celest bobcat
Well being a Roserade spriter, I have to use it LOL
celest bobcat
How would one code Unfezzant anyway? Male and female are vastly different
Meowstic is separated in the polls
stuck bane
Well meowstic has different stats based on gender
hot hamlet
Discord changed my quick access emotes
stuck bane
How would one code Unfezzant anyway? Male and female are vastly different
Nobody cares about the gender differences between the Pikachu tails so it’d probably be spriters choice
feral bear
Gorebyss propaganda
hot hamlet
That throws a wrench in that then
hot hamlet
Gorebyss propaganda
That scares me actually and idk why
terse fable
Gorebyss is the reason I 3'd that line
hot hamlet
No love for doofy Huntail
silent acorn
That scares me actually and idk why
fleshy eyes
small tiger
I’d rather other stuff in over *another* Birb
true, the oricorios need to get sprites too
feral bear
Also frog is a confirmed clamperl lover
outer matrix
https://tenor.com/view/gorebyss-shiny-pokemon-pokemon-huntail-clamperl-gif-7037435461079651589
the onyl gorebyss gif I could find
celest bobcat
Let's get Espurr in for it's face alone
terse fable
Huntail I'm sure will have cool sprites, but Goreybyss a cutie
hot hamlet
Let's get Espurr in for it's face alone
Emote contest this
I have reason to use it in the game help channel
silent acorn
Let's get Espurr in for it's face alone
I'd rather get Swadloons derpy face
humble lance
lets get kricketune for DELELELEWOOOOOOOOOOOP
celest bobcat
lets get kricketune for DELELELEWOOOOOOOOOOOP
No one's playing with sound on
silent acorn
Alright ill give it a one for that. What else does it have?
celest bobcat
LOL
terse fable
embrace bugs in your life, let them sleep in your bed 🙂
humble lance
bedbugs
terse fable
my sweet lil friends
celest bobcat
embrace bugs in your life, let them sleep in your bed 🙂
My favorite bug is Lurantis
stuck bane
That’s the thing, it would apply to autogen too
hot hamlet
Golurk is right there
But I want Mechrozma!
silent acorn
I vote Mechacrosma
hot hamlet
How am I supposed to do an UltraNecrozma Single Species run if they aren’t at least 50% custom as per my restrictions!
terse fable
Mechrozma is basically the Guyver suit
Actually that has some flashing lights, ima get rid of that just in casee
hot hamlet
Why settle for Go-bot when we can have Mech-rozma for fuses?
celest bobcat
Mechagross
hot hamlet
Only Shuckle does that I think
silent acorn
How am I supposed to do an UltraNecrozma Single Species run if they aren’t at le...
Do it with only the weakest one
hot hamlet
Do it with only the weakest one
I do it to showcase sprites. And a rule is I only do it on mons that don’t evolve (balancing reasons), and their custom count must be >50% (so I don’t just fight autogens the whole time)
silent acorn
Ah that's cool
silent acorn
I do it to showcase sprites. And a rule is I only do it on mons that don’t evolv...
So like do you upload gameplays or stream it then?
clever vigil
W.i.p
hot hamlet
Pory drampa has n64 polygon model, p2 is gc 3d model, z is a broken source engine model
terse fable
Someone pls, make the funny mon
clever vigil
A new porygon?
???
That's just the colors im using for the outlines until I actually color them
humble lance
hot hamlet
Will someone show me evidence the electric mice. ANY of them. Would make for good fusion material from an aesthetic perspective?
humble lance
terse fable
Pachirisu is a squirrel ya silly
grave jolt
humble lance
hot hamlet
<https://x.com/bnuuycoco/status/1803130842505531619>
Also that is proof of head but what about body?
grave jolt
The heck is the left thing?
I assume it's Galvantula/Leavanny, Pachirisu/Vulpix, and Shinx/Sentret.
grave jolt
Also that is proof of head but what about body?
hot hamlet
Okay I can see appeal. Idk how it would push past a 1 or 2 for me but I am willing to change my vote accordingly
humble lance
grave jolt
Found these on know your meme
humble lance
viscid fossil
The one on the right looks like a webkins oc
hot hamlet
The one on the right looks like a webkins oc
I was gonna say Neopet but yeah
hot hamlet
Found these on know your meme
Left is impossible due to limitations. Right is not a sprite
grave jolt
Left is impossible due to limitations. Right is not a sprite
The right is pretty in line with most Aegislash head fusions.
hot hamlet
I am convinced of concept art, I just haven’t seen sprites yet
Like yesterday I got converted to Slurpuff by seeing people making sprites of them
grave jolt
I unfortunately can't sprite due to a hand injury
if I could sprite, id have a dozen Pachirisu I'd have a dozen alts lined up and id have been spamming them
civic harness
*if I could sprite, id have a dozen Pachirisu I'd have a dozen alts lined up and...
Pachirisu army
grave jolt
I've got conceptual pieces, and I'm confident that spriters would find inspiration.
Dinner has already made a few
hot hamlet
But dinner is all about the crabs atm
grave jolt
Yeah
civic harness
I've got conceptual pieces, and I'm confident that spriters would find inspirati...
Actually... soon you will see
civic harness
But dinner is all about the crabs atm
Is the price for MAYBE Crabomimable in IF
grave jolt
Pachis' best sprites would be head fusions, as that's what would push it beyond its general body plan (which, like almost every pikaclone is fairly generic)
hot hamlet
Which is why I look at both head and body before considering. Some mons can be pretty inspired even with the body restriction
civic harness
Use creativity my friend, but yes, is a pikaclone so... it could be too similar to Pikachu line fusions
hot hamlet
not if the squirrel aspects are emphasized
grave jolt
There's plenty to work with on the body as it's decently simple so you can incorporate a lot more of the other Mon without losing identifiability.
civic harness
Again, use creativity
eternal timber
You can use creativity to make a pikaclone not too similar to other pikaclones
In fact pachi and emolga have unique color schemes afaik
lament tree
In fact pachi and emolga have unique color schemes afaik
No they dont
I'd say pacharisu is closer to minun
grave jolt
Fun alt idea: the partner Pichu from the Pokemon ranger manga
hot hamlet
I sense thins gonna get good🐙🍿
grave jolt
It's exstatic
humble lance
we need pachirisu fused with garchomp
grave jolt
Pachomp
humble lance
2014 tournament reference
hidden relic
Wimpod Base :)
humble lance
wimp
grave jolt
od
hidden relic
Will probably skip Golisopod, in my challenge, because truth be told
hidden relic
Howls's one is just better overall 
grave jolt
Wim/od
hidden relic
or maybe wimp/pod
Probably this ver
humble lance
mewew
hot hamlet
It would be wimp/pod only if it has 2 no?
Like Ditto is Dit/to
humble lance
doubled up letters get deleted
hot hamlet
So it could be wimp/od, or wim/pod
humble lance
so fused with itself it would still be wimpod
but fused it would be broken up like wimp/pod
grave jolt
Would Pachirisu be pachi/risu or pa/chirisu 
grave jolt
Oh
hot hamlet
It’s what I mean!
grave jolt
Mewto
hot hamlet
Meow/th
grave jolt
Meowto
humble lance
also was trying to read ur about me until i realized thats ukrainian and not russian
grave jolt
hot hamlet
Luxio is a red cat?
grave jolt
hot hamlet
Neat
humble lance
also my non pif pack is now at 840 
hot hamlet
Until a mon gets in and you have to move all its sprites out
humble lance
real
molten latch
Morning guys
hot hamlet
Mor(dred)ning!
grave jolt
Morn
hot hamlet
https://tenor.com/view/skuntank-poison-skunk-anime-toxic-gif-27399293
I voted Stunky a 3 for uniqueness
stuck bane
He isn’t the problem
Fart fusions are
It’s not his fault spriters have the potential to be horrible to him
hot hamlet
Weezing: exsts
terse fable
You can't let the farters take our fun
iron quartz
Weezing: *exsts*
atleast he has different ones
hot hamlet
Weezing stole the I
stuck bane
Weezing: *exsts*
Wheezing isn’t even close, I’m talking Rule 2 levels of breaking
iron quartz
Stunky is just a skunk
hot hamlet
Wheezing isn’t even close, I’m talking Rule 2 levels of breaking
Shits: exists
stuck bane
Yes, but at least it’s not artistically depicted
stuck bane
Artistically depicting it would get us in WAY more trouble than shinx ralts
hot hamlet
Yes, but at least it’s not artistically depicted
Shits alt depicting a poop: exists
molten latch
https://tenor.com/view/skuntank-poison-skunk-anime-toxic-gif-27399293
If you vote 3, Fart jokes and NSFW will be added
terse fable
If you vote 3, Fart jokes and NSFW will be added <:Despair:850468339955924993>
It won't thooo, anything too crazy won't be let in the game
fart jokes I mean
hot hamlet
Come on, you can’t tell me you can add a tasteful skunk stripe to any of the mons with hairlines?
iron quartz
It won't thooo, anything too crazy won't be let in the game
unfortunately the mods eyes will be tainted
molten latch
Yes
stuck bane
Not even added, I think they’ll be heavily moderated, meaning skuntank won’t get a ton of fusions because of it
iron quartz
or even a brand new rule
molten latch
Not even added, I think they’ll be heavily moderated, meaning skuntank won’t get...
Yeah
Agreed
molten latch
Or people will hide their NSFW made sprite and put it in their game anyways
terse fable
Well I mean idk, I don't think people are gonna be that crazy with it
iron quartz
Or people will hide their NSFW made sprite and put it in their game anyways <:Tr...
very possible
hot hamlet
Too much negativity, think of the POSSIBILITIES of Stuntabk fuses. He had a pompadour for crying out loud!
terse fable
Some people just take stuff that way tho
stuck bane
We thought that with Goodra and mods (apparently) said it was horrible
terse fable
Like how someone was saying a fusion with snorlax was dirty cause it was fat
molten latch
Like how someone was saying a fusion with snorlax was dirty cause it was fat
Lumpy (A popular youtuber) did just that but its not that offensive
Vilelax (Vileplume/Snorlax)
iron quartz
Vilelax (Vileplume/Snorlax)
sounds like vilgax
stuck bane
Tbf, wasn’t there a trend of a guy literally just fusing furry mons with snorlax to just make them fat/imply something I don’t think I can say involving digestion? I hope none of those made it in
hot hamlet
I can’t believe nobody will even consider Stunky as a Pokémon option just because “the artists aren’t creative enough to work around the problem”
iron quartz
Tbf, wasn’t there a trend of a guy literally just fusing furry mons with snorlax...
I feel like we shouldnt continue this discussion
stuck bane
Agreed
eternal timber
I'd say pacharisu is closer to minun
Minun isnt white, minun is a yellowy cream
Pachirisu is a clean white, blue, and yellow
outer matrix
Topic change: opinions on the Vanillite-line for ice cream fusions? Like how depending on the source Pokémon's typing (and design), the ice cream flavor can change
stuck bane
I can’t believe nobody will even consider Stunky as a Pokémon option just becaus...
I think artists definitely can be creative enough, but also it’s human tendency to find the path of least resistance when working towards something. Aka: the easy option
eternal timber
Eh, vanillite line is more ice/snow sculpture
iron quartz
Anyways
i forgot but is Xerneas and Yveltal ingame?
eternal timber
Since they’re not actually ice cream
hot hamlet
I think artists definitely can be creative enough, but also it’s human tendency ...
We get along fine with Gardevoir. He’ll even Miltank has clawed itself out of that rep recently. So why not skunk?
eternal timber
No, we dont have the xyzs
terse fable
Topic change: opinions on the Vanillite-line for ice cream fusions? Like how de...
It's fine, but I'd rather have slurpuff for anything food related rn
stuck bane
Eh, vanillite line is more ice/snow sculpture
Are you literally trying your argue the vanillite line isn’t based on ice cream cones.
terse fable
But I'm okay with the ice cream
eternal timber
Are you literally trying your argue the vanillite line isn’t based on ice cream ...
I’m saying they arent actually ice cream. They look like it but arent
molten latch
Only a spoonful -Alakazam
eternal timber
They’re basically a snow sculpture of ice cream
molten latch
If Vanillite won, I'll name it Bing.
iron quartz
I’m saying they arent actually ice cream. They look like it but arent
i saw this one pirate software video and he said that the vanillite line is a virus or smth
stuck bane
Yes, but we just talked about spriters being lazy so ice cream fusions will be made of it whether we advocate for it or not
eternal timber
They’re just an elemental being? Not a virus
stuck bane
i saw this one pirate software video and he said that the vanillite line is a vi...
Yeah, from their dex entries right? Lemme check
terse fable
humble lance
yknow
i wish shelmet evolved into escavalier
id be much more interested in having its line be in the game
but unfortunately theyre tied directly to karrablast and accelgor so it feels wrong
terse fable
I do think people are sleeping on cryogonal
molten latch
yknow
i wish shelmet evolved into escavalier
id be much more interested in havin...
Gnoggin has done a video about it before
Its called Mollonce
humble lance
i think these two have so much potential as a solid line
im just not as big of a fan of karrablast and accelgor
molten latch
Oof
stuck bane
“Yes, if I ignore the Pokémon inside the armor and make up my own headcanon, they’re perfect”
stuck bane
i think these two have so much potential as a solid line
You understand escavalier is just karablast wearing shelmet’s armor right
eternal timber
It’s a little more than that
humble lance
i understand that
i just dont care for karrablast itself
eternal timber
Not all that stuff is present on shelmet
humble lance
i like the concept of the armored fusions that we could get with shelmet and escavalier
molten latch
I see
humble lance
karrablast and accelgor are boring to me by comparison
stuck bane
Evolution increases obviously, but that’s literally karrablast’s blue skin and yellow belly
molten latch
Escavalier is also one of my favorite mons too.
humble lance
i fucking understand that thats karrablast
hexed agate
we love cool bugs
stuck bane
Accelgor has tints of green under its scarves as well
eternal timber
I’m just wondering, imagine if both lines had a second evo
terse fable
I like to think the armor changes depending on the wearer, so spriters can make different variations of armor with different weapons depening on what mon is wearing it
eternal timber
One where the theft didn’t happen
humble lance
learn to read the words that i am speaking
eternal timber
Or maybe just shelmet
humble lance
i like shelmet and escavalier for their fusion potential
eternal timber
Karrablast is literally just wearing the armoe, but what if a shelmet evo had that armor
stuck bane
learn to read the words that i am speaking
Then stop ignoring reality, shelmet will not evolve into escavalier
hexed agate
i like shelmet and escavalier for their fusion potential
I think Accelgor has great potential, tbh
Karrablast is the real meh one
humble lance
i am literally just giving my fucking opinion jesus fucking christ
hexed agate
but we love cool bugs
stuck bane
PIF won’t ignore the evolutions, if they do Luvdisc has a shot
hexed agate
i am literally just giving my fucking opinion jesus fucking christ
POV: opinion (wrong)
humble lance
nou
hexed agate
:deps
humble lance
deps
hexed agate
deps
eternal timber
I just wish shelmet and karrablast were paired in the vote
And durant and heatmor
terse fable
yee
molten latch
Same
stuck bane
I wish a lot of things were paired, we wouldn’t have to worry about counterparts like Camerupt or Gothitelle or Lilligant or nothing
eternal timber
And aromatisse and slurpuff because those are both great lines and version exclusive pair
hexed agate
I think it's leverageable, since they're not a lot of mons
terse fable
pairing zangoose and seviper but not other mons with similiar close dex entries and story stuff is lamee
humble lance
petition to have shelmet and escavalier separated from karrablast and accelgor
hexed agate
And aromatisse and slurpuff because those are both great lines and version exclu...
then Drampa and Turtonator should be paired too
eternal timber
Im not opposed to that i just think we have enough dragons atm
terse fable
then Drampa and Turtonator should be paired too
oh yea, now that would be spicy
stuck bane
petition to have shelmet and escavalier separated from karrablast and accelgor
“I’m just giving my opinion”
“Petition to make my headcanon real”
eternal timber
But that doesn’t mean we cant let the people vote more in
humble lance
hexed agate
make Shelmet a split evo into Escavalier and Accelgor
forget Karrablast, make it into the Heracross preevo
molten latch
You know what Item that I want in the game in IF, its the cord from Legends: Arceus.
humble lance
make Shelmet a split evo into Escavalier and Accelgor
thatd be cool
hot hamlet
pairing zangoose and seviper but not other mons with similiar close dex entries ...
Agreed. Pairing Zangoose and Seviper, but not Heatmor and Durant? Their Gen 5 counterparts???
outer matrix
Hey look it's mine on the left 
humble lance
stuck bane
Agreed. Pairing Zangoose and Seviper, but *not* Heatmor and Durant? Their Gen 5 ...
Don’t get me started on Gen 5 alone, the fossils, braviary/mandibuzz, there’s so many
humble lance
armored fusions pls
eternal timber
I think there’s a few other version exclusive pairs but i cant exactly remember everything everything’s
humble lance
hexed agate
holy mother of black outlines
molten latch
Kudos
humble lance
hot hamlet
See? Sprite evidence to back up claims it would work. THIS is what I’ve been asking for the past several mons!!!
eternal timber
Kudos
That’s probably because darkrai is bad
Like, in terms of using the black for the outline as shading
hot hamlet
What is bottom middle?
humble lance
incineroar
hot hamlet
Ah
hexed agate
I loved that cape one in the contest, easy 5
eternal timber
Oh i replied to the wronf thinf, oh well
summer coral
Oh these are execellent sprite work omg
molten latch
Thats amazing Luxio. I love all of these
hot hamlet
I loved that cape one in the contest, easy 5
Could use it in current run (caped warriors)
feral bear
Escavalier/Sableye dropping soon 😉
hexed agate
Could use it in current run (caped warriors)
Aegislash/Heracross
hot hamlet
I…idk if I’m using either of those yet. Lemme check
I am not!
Yeah I could do that
I’ll look into it
humble lance
why is accelgor just bug type
feral bear
The Escavalier/Tsareena is one of my finer pieces 🤓
stuck bane
Listen, escavalier armor fusions are amazing, nobody is arguing that
I just don’t think we should ignore evo lines at their expense, it sets a horrible precedent later
molten latch
Idk
humble lance
feels like it should have a secondary type
hot hamlet
Aegislash/Heracross
No capes!
humble lance
like ghost or something
hot hamlet
You got my hopes up Pory
I need capes!
My rival is Edna Mode
Well… Edwin but that’s cause he’s a he
hexed agate
Use the Tsareena sprite with Gardevoir/Gallade and Aegi
feral bear
If everything goes well she will be soon 👀
hot hamlet
And by then it will be too late
humble lance
i have tsareena set as roserade but i might set escavalier as aegislash
maybe
let me see what other pokemon could work
feral bear
Escavalier/roserade would be interesting bc like which hands r we using yaknow????
hot hamlet
I’m waiting until the next month adding before I make a non-IF team… just in case lol
feral bear
A boquet of lances
hot hamlet
Escavalier/roserade would be interesting bc like which hands r we using yaknow??...
Bouquets with a Lance sticking out from the middle
feral bear
Like a corpse flower maybe?
humble lance
a bouquet of lances!
hot hamlet
No like a flower with a real big spiky part
feral bear
Not us doing xenophacilus' job lol
hot hamlet
Meh. I can’t sprite but I can share a ton of ideas
summer coral
This game makes me wanna learn how to sprite :]
humble lance
This game makes me wanna learn how to sprite :]
summer coral
Mainly so I can make more awesome Meganium options
humble lance
mm i dont think aegislash would work since it cant learn enough bug type moves
molten latch
Just Do it
humble lance
i think scizor would work best for escavalier
hot hamlet
Given metal coat and steel type yeah
molten latch
Nice
humble lance
forretress and ferrothorn dont feel right and genesect is too powerful
scizor works best yeah
humble lance
real
hot hamlet
Escavalier is peaked medieval pokemon
Roman but sure
hot hamlet
Falinks is also pretty great for medieval
Hellenistic but sure
humble lance
i wonder what an aegislash escavalier fusion would look like
hot hamlet
Charcadet I’ll give
eternal timber
I’m pretty sure falinks is super roman actually
stuck bane
Prob escavalier but sword and shield in each hand tbh
molten latch
i wonder what an aegislash escavalier fusion would look like
Basically Escavalier with two swords than just lances.
That would be kudos
hot hamlet
I’m pretty sure falinks is super roman actually
Greece was the phalanx formation
stuck bane
People also really like aegislash color scheme
eternal timber
Ah, well the romans may have taken it from em
hot hamlet
Well Macedonian specifically but more well known among Alexander the Great’s Greece
eternal timber
They certainly took a lot of things from the Greek after all
hot hamlet
Gods. Architecture… people
stuck bane
Doublade would prob make the dual wielding escavalier though
hot hamlet
Though they claim to be Trojans but that came later (at the emperor’s behest!)
simple gulch
vote for pant
eternal timber
I suppose escaliver is the best we have for medieval that’s available tho
summer coral
SO something really cool about Roman and Greek gods--
It's less that the Romans took Greek gods, and more that both Romans and Greeks traded with a third culture who influenced them both, and then when Romans and Greeks met they were like "oh hey, we're kinda similar"
I am grossly paraphrasing here, but. It's neato
eternal timber
Since falinks is gen 8 and charcadet is gen 9
stuck bane
Aegislash kind of does that, but escavalier would play into another aspect of it with lancing
hot hamlet
Since falinks is gen 8 and charcadet is gen 9
Aegislash and Excavalier, but Excavalier is sort of a mix of Roman gladiator and medieval knight. Sort of a transitional mon there
eternal timber
Technically aegislash is just a sword and shield but we do associate that sort of thing with medieval and the decorative parts do have that vibe
hot hamlet
SO something really cool about Roman and Greek gods--
It's less that the Romans...
Only fair since Aphrodite was traded from another party
hot hamlet
Technically aegislash is just a sword and shield but we do associate that sort o...
And their Dex that basically anoints them with the whole concept of Excalibur choosing the next king
eternal timber
They probably should have been introduced in galar but unova did have some odd combo of arthurian vibes and actually American stuff
hot hamlet
They were gen 6
eternal timber
I mix up some of the later generations
grave jolt
SO something really cool about Roman and Greek gods--
It's less that the Romans...
Rome did a similar thing even when it became christian; Mythalogical Heroes became saints, gods became angels ect.
Christian syncratism was often more a tactic to let people keep their local beliefs while still technically converting them, and the syncratism itself comes from the Roman empire.
eternal timber
But unova does have some weird stuff associated with monarchies
molten latch
And Peta
hot hamlet
Rome did a similar thing even when it became christian; Mythalogical Heroes beca...
And then they got to Ireland but that’s a rant for another server
hot hamlet
But unova *does* have some weird stuff associated with monarchies
Having N as a king was a bit on the nose
molten latch
Because in a nutshell, Team Plasma is Peta
hot hamlet
With literal knight Templar followers
eternal timber
At least he’s the right kind of person for it
He just didn’t get proper education
hot hamlet
And a shifty regent in the form of Ghetsis
molten latch
Ghetsis pretends to be a good ruler until he reveals his true color.
stuck bane
Finally found it! Vixtar made this:
hot hamlet
Much like a proper grand vizier
molten latch
Finally found it! Vixtar made this:
Very cool
hot hamlet
Finally found it! Vixtar made this:
Meloetta?
grave jolt
Ghetsis pretends to be a good ruler until he reveals his true color.
that's how monarchy is tbh
stuck bane
Technically some other mons fused in but gives the main idea of meloetta and aegislash
hot hamlet
I saw the staff scarf
stuck bane
And the midevial aspects of Aegi
hot hamlet
Gives Magic Knight vibes
molten latch
that's how monarchy is tbh <a:ashGiggle:1170227890139443260>
Still, I cant unsee that Team Plasma is Peta like Team Magma is IGN
stuck bane
I still have escavalier/accelgor (fuck you they’re counterparts no matter what middle stage electric types might say) a 3 because unova
molten latch
UNited states OV America
stuck bane
Technically, team plasma split after learning ghetsis was evil, so a good and bad one, it’s why they had a pirate costume change in b2w2
grave jolt
I still have escavalier/accelgor (fuck you they’re counterparts no matter what m...
They're the same type of counterpart as Gengar and Alakazam
grave jolt
UNited states OV America
UNSOVA?
hot hamlet
I still have escavalier/accelgor (fuck you they’re counterparts no matter what m...
If you’re adding one, only makes sense their trade partner is added. It’d be like adding Solrock but not Lunatone.
feral bear
Escavalier is always a 3 for me, definitely my top non girlboss pick
grave jolt
I dislike bug types
eternal timber
They're the same type of counterpart as Gengar and Alakazam
Nah, they’re even more connected because of that shitty trade method
stuck bane
They're the same type of counterpart as Gengar and Alakazam
No they aren’t. Kadabra doesnt evolve if only traded with a Haunter and vice versa
hot hamlet
I dislike bug types
Sad bug noises?
stuck bane
I can like the concept behind them, but it’s locked behind such a shitty specific system
hot hamlet
No they aren’t. Kadabra doesnt evolve if only traded with a Haunter and vice ver...
Technically idk if this was debunked, but I heard back in beta days, Graveler was meant to only trade with Machoke. Hence why one loses arms, and the other gains them
eternal timber
It would be better if they just had to both be in your party and they would evolve together
Like how maushold just evolves
eternal timber
There was a solution on Legends Arceus.
That means nothing
feral bear
If escavalier and acc get added it should just be an npc thats like "hey wow damn i have alllll these shelmet, wanna trade for a karrablast?" And just make the resulting mon have the same stats and ability slot
eternal timber
The linking cord isnt new btw
hot hamlet
It would be better if they just had to both be in your party and they would evol...
Or Mantyke to Mantine with Remoraid?
grave jolt
god I forgot Graveler and Machoke were trade evos lmao
eternal timber
It’s existed since Pokemon mystery dungeon
hot hamlet
Nam flashbacks to Relic Chamber
stuck bane
Interesting I must’ve never noticed when I played
molten latch
That means nothing
Why not?
eternal timber
Or Mantyke to Mantine with Remoraid?
Mantyke just needs to level up to at least a certain level i think while you have one and it evolves normally
hot hamlet
Mantyke just needs to level up to at least a certain level i think while you hav...
Yeah, you needed it in the party
feral bear
Or just make items like how charcadet evolves
eternal timber
They specifically need to be traded for each other
I think them casually evolving like tandemaus does is more fun tbh
stuck bane
I think if implemented into IF, the level up to 40 with both in party thing works
humble lance
i think just the linking cord should work especially if both lines dont get added
hot hamlet
Basically Karrablast steals the shell, and Shellmet is suddenly not held back by the weight of the shell
eternal timber
They just fight when you aren’t looking and one steals the others armor
feral bear
I would like to see the shelmet helmet item
humble lance
lol
eternal timber
I’m not talking a pif evo method
hot hamlet
I would like to see the shelmet helmet item
Shellmet helmet trainer cust when?
stuck bane
Basically Karrablast steals the shell, and Shellmet is suddenly not held back by...
I think it’s also implied shelmet is damaged after its shell is taken?
eternal timber
I’m talking a less annoying method for the real games
feral bear
Shellmet helmet trainer cust when?
Adding that to my list lol
molten latch
I’m talking a less annoying method for the real games
The Linking Cord can work in PIF than just the Evolution Stones.
eternal timber
Oh yeah, ripping a snail out of it’s shell is usually fatal
hot hamlet
I think it’s also implied shelmet is damaged after its shell is taken?
Implies it hurts yes, but that it gives it willingly because Karrablast hates being vulnerable
eternal timber
We have no need for a linking cord in pif
The solution for trade evos is turn them into level evos
Dont nerd react me, we already have trade evos in pif that had a solution made
stuck bane
I thought it was a predator prey situation where shelmet barely made it out alive but lost its shell, doesnt dex say something about shelmet taste?
eternal timber
Btw i find the nerd react to be incredibly rude
molten latch
Ok fine
feral bear
Shelmet helmet gang
molten latch
Do it as you please
grave jolt
Karrablast eats shellmet
eternal timber
I’m pretty sure shelmet and karrablast are version exclusives
stuck bane
Karrablast eats shellmet
Yeah that’s where I remember it from ty
Yes they were version exclusives
eternal timber
Only one dex entry is so explicit about it, i remember reading that top entry and wanting to draw the pair getting shocked by a stunfisk
Because technically that fits the requirements the dex says
And all 3 live in the swamp
grave jolt
Interestingly, the Shellmet entrys don't mention the relationship.
hot hamlet
Karrablast eats shellmet
Interesting they danced around it so much, then Shield just says “it eats it”
molten latch
Thats ashame
No wonder why the pokedex are messed up in an accurate way as possible.
stuck bane
Vote for the Gen 5 bug counterparts: adds more bug types, accelgor has one of the highest speed stats in the game with a good special attack, accelgor is also the only bug type with access to hydration, and the only bug type with access to sticky hold, and the only bug type with access to unburden, escavalier can bring lancing and armor fusions, escavalier also brings a great attack with good defense and special defense, and is the only steel type with access to shell armor (being a steel type that can’t be crit is insane, especially with the right fusion), accelgor is also the only pure bug type with access to acid, and the only bug type with access to acid armor, and the only bug type with access to body slam, and the only bug type with access to curse naturally, and the only bug type with access to guard swap, and the only bug type with access to yawn, and the only bug type with access to acid spray, and the only bug type with access to final gambit naturally, and the only bug type with access to power swap, and is also the only Pokémon besides greninja with access to water shuriken, Escavalier is also the only non-UB bug type head with access to quick guard naturally, and is also the only steel type body with access to twineedle naturally
I’m goin to bed gn
hot hamlet
Interestingly, the Shellmet entrys don't mention the relationship.
Meanwhile Sword just says “it tries but there’s no stopping Karrablast”
That’s dark
eternal timber
Honestly im just sitting here being scared of woobat and roggenrola
molten latch
Whats wrong with a bat and a rock
eternal timber
I found out the hard way how strong roggenrola are (rip my purrloin)
Oh, im playing a nuzlocke and my cat got killed. And woobat are in the same cave
molten latch
Ouch
grave jolt
Escavalier poledex does state that it uses the shells of shellmet
molten latch
Ripperoni
small tiger
anyways vote! (tsareena)
simple gulch
vote for elemental monkies
eternal timber
Oh i wanna see that painting
grave jolt
Oh i wanna see that painting
we need to get a spriter to make that painting
molten latch
anyways vote! (tsareena)
*imp but fine since you like her so much I'll put her on 1 happy?
eternal timber
I’m free
simple gulch
free him
eternal timber
But also i might throw a vote at the rock for murdering my cat
ebon glacier
lock em up
simple gulch
IRS be like when no money
simple gulch
But also i might throw a vote at the rock for murdering my cat
Nimbiru?
eternal timber
The rock has ridiculously high attack for a first stage
simple gulch
r you playing purrley
simple gulch
:v what rock
molten latch
BTW why not discuss it on #other-pokemon-games ?
eternal timber
That’s not a skill issue that’s a luck issue and a roggenrola is ridiculous issue
simple gulch
ah
molten latch
Oh ok
grave jolt
just...hit it with a special move
simple gulch
use water gun
simple gulch
was it shiny?
eternal timber
BTW why not discuss it on <#641772771520544789> ?
Because i dont touch that channel. I stick to spriter channels
civic harness
Hello there
molten latch
Ok
eternal timber
No, it was my first encounter of the area
And i didn’t know how ridiculous roggenrola is
civic harness
Im back to see how everything is going
grave jolt
Hello there
hidden relic
Fish.
eternal timber
So, because its ridiculous i am gonna throw a vote to it
grave jolt
gigalith
eternal timber
Oh gigalith gets a much better sp defense
That thing is a tank and hits like a truck
molten latch
Since you mentioned that Roggenrola is stronk, I might use it on my future playthrough.
hidden relic
Awesome work with the mouth
I used Crawdaunt's colors, since it's what I had on hand 
Gettin' bored of goin' in order though, what mon should I do next?
civic harness
Gettin' bored of goin' in order though, what mon should I do next?
Pachirisu
grave jolt
Gettin' bored of goin' in order though, what mon should I do next?
Pachirisu
molten latch
@eternal timber so sorry for being rude BTW.
hidden relic
I know just the pose.
eternal timber
Is that a shiny card
hidden relic
yeag
grave jolt
😮
eternal timber
Nice
eternal timber
I hope i get an emolga in my nuzlocke. That would be a fun Pokemon
molten latch
I know just the pose.
Everyone Discharge sounds sus ngl
eternal timber
And also emolga needs love
hidden relic
Did the same with Wimpod, albeit it Wimpod was from a different set than this
molten latch
What about Dedenne or Togedemaru?
civic harness
Everyone Discharge sounds sus ngl
Why?
molten latch
Because of the different meaning of discharge
hot hamlet
Because of the different meaning of discharge
reaches for the spray bottle
humble lance
oh wait i should switch the items around
molten latch
Ah!
eternal timber
I love that some of the recent sets have had a chance for any card to have a shiny
hidden relic
oh wait i should switch the items around <:heehee:945800365457149992>
wtf type of alternate timeline
hot hamlet
oh wait i should switch the items around <:heehee:945800365457149992>
Mandela Effect!
grave jolt
oh wait i should switch the items around <:heehee:945800365457149992>
how it should have been
humble lance
put it in pif like this 
hot hamlet
shaky old voice
I was there in the old days where the rare candy was on the left
civic harness
*how it should have been*
Is just that two pokemons swap before evolution
Because shelmet want to be a ninja
Not a knight
grave jolt
I just realized that Escavalier doesn't have any torso armor, that's Karrablasts exoskeleton.
humble lance
ye
civic harness
I just realized that Escavalier doesn't have any torso armor, that's Karrablasts...
Is just because Shelmet swap with Karrablast
hot hamlet
Pretty much electricity separates the shell and traps Karrablast. Now unburdened, Shellmet’s speed is increased
molten latch
Has anyone talked about Accelgor
grave jolt
he looks weird
eternal timber
Karrablast doesn’t seem trapped from the dex entries and shield paints a much more terrifying way of how it gets the armor
civic harness
he looks weird
That what shelmet want, dont blame it
humble lance
accelgor would be cool if it wasnt just monotype bug
eternal timber
You cant take a snail out of it’s shell, their mantle is connected because the shell is a part of them
humble lance
make it bug ghost
hot hamlet
Karrablast doesn’t seem trapped from the dex entries and shield paints a much mo...
Nah. It eats Shellmet, but the armor is a result of electricity. Doesn’t say anything else but we know electricity separates the shell from Shellmet without much lasting consequences
Except it melds to Karrablast
grave jolt
Pretty much electricity separates the shell and traps Karrablast. Now unburdened...
Pokedex entry for Escavalier explicitly says it kills Shellmet and steals their shells
eternal timber
Accelgor is a snail with all its organs exposed basically
That’s why it’s wrapped up
simple gulch
its just a snail-eating bug
hot hamlet
Pokedex entry for Escavalier explicitly says it kills Shellmet and steals their ...
Dex says it eats them, but the only ones that mention transfer of she’ll involve electricity affecting them mid-battle
light gardenBOT
I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?
molten latch
accelgor would be cool if it wasnt just monotype bug
Like Bug/Fighting? Luxio
eternal timber
Because snails cant be seemlessly separated from a shell
civic harness
Pokedex entry for Escavalier explicitly says it kills Shellmet and steals their ...
Or maybe is just a swap, like what Graveler and Machoke do before evolution
hot hamlet
I don't think that's in IF. :thinking: Did you misspell something?
I have immunity how did that even happen?
simple gulch
luxio, i need the monkies
humble lance
Like Bug/Fighting? Luxio
maybe
looks like either bug ghost or bug poison to me but bug poison is overdone
molten latch
Bug Ghost it is
hot hamlet
<:lie:348223399430062083> luxio, i need the monkies
If you do with them what you did to Oricorio/Deoxys I will 100% change them from a 0 to a 3 ASAP
molten latch
Decidueye is no exception
simple gulch
If you do with them what you did to Oricorio/Deoxys I will 100% change them from...
🙉🙈🙊
simple gulch
damm
eternal timber
Escavalier poledex does state that it uses the shells of shellmet
None of these mentions it being trapped
eternal timber
Panpour is what i have for my nuzlocke
hot hamlet
We need a capybara mon
molten latch
Cute
civic harness
simple gulch
None of these mentions it being trapped
it not trapped, just was assassin bug that eat snail
molten latch
We need a capybara mon
OK I PULL UP
simple gulch
We need a capybara mon
capy bara
eternal timber
Pretty much electricity separates the shell and traps Karrablast. Now unburdened...
That’s what i was saying because this person said karrablast got trapped
hot hamlet
That’s what i was saying because this person said karrablast got trapped
Don’t drag me in when I’m not looking!
eternal timber
Hey i was just explaining to someone else that it wasnt me who originally brought up trapped
hot hamlet
Semantics aside it ends up donning the armor okay?
humble lance
cats
eternal timber
Oh, i chose the tail slap gif because it shows off the tail shape better sorry about the aron but also it’s funny how casually that happens
Like barely any effort
Also to be fair, that cat is specifically owned by a bad guy
eternal timber
eternal timber
Because of the pfp from a game we probably shouldn’t discuss in this server
grave jolt
molten latch
molten latch
https://tenor.com/view/skitty-pokemon-cute-gif-15574812
No wait she's fine.
eternal timber
Yeah skitty can take a tail slap
eternal timber
Get fucked
I love how that happens almost every single time he does this where he’s actually with a Pokemon
grave jolt
grave jolt
Arceus dog
molten latch
Jedog
eternal timber
I wonder if we could get away with reference alts for those alolapix cuts
If furfrou got in
molten latch
Furfrou for ZA baby
grave jolt
We don't even have an alolan vulpix alt for vulpix
eternal timber
Well frog doesn’t like regional variants last i heard
But also this would be a reference to a scene in the anime
grave jolt
the dev
molten latch
Of I thought it was Seismitoad or Greninja
grave jolt
I really wish regional varient alts were in 😔
civic harness
I really wish regional varient alts were in 😔
There are some Alolan Exeggutor alts
In different fusions
echo patrol
im pretty sure a lot of pokemon with regional variants will likely have an alt sprite for that
civic harness
Like Trevenant/Exeggutor
echo patrol
either way i was never a fan of regional forms either tbf
always felt like wasted potential
hot hamlet
All the regional forms exist as an alt if not a self fusion alt
molten latch
So. . . Any discussions about any of the mons that are least popular?
gray vine
depends i forgot what mons where all on the votes, so what do you think is least popular
humble lance
i think it was confirmed that volbeat and illumise were the least popular
molten latch
Yikes
gray vine
that makes sense
molten latch
I feel about about the 2 bugs of Hoenn
humble lance
elemonkeys are fairly unpopular
gray vine
no pre evo and not even gender changes but 2 dif mons, just kinda 2 wasted spots
gray vine
elemonkeys are fairly unpopular
eh i like em
humble lance
i wanna know the other onesssssssssssssssssssss
molten loom
i wanna know the other onesssssssssssssssssssss
Well nobody knows atm
clear lichen
So. . . Any discussions about any of the mons that are least popular?
If I was a betting Internet user, I'd bet on either Volbeat+Illumise, Luvdisc or the Elemental Monkeys
humble lance
determent
clear lichen
Those mons are very hated last I checked
molten latch
Role Icons aye?
humble lance
gonna look up when the sprite contests end
clear lichen
And since like a fifth of the people here play Competitive to some extent I'd bet Alomomola gets more votes than Luvdisc for sure
They're very similar
Except I'm pretty sure Alomomola is bigger
molten loom
I mean, we have no idea what a majority of people actually want
clear lichen
And obviously in battle Alomomola is a lot better
molten loom
Since the silent majority don't look in here
clear lichen
Yeah no way to tell who is most or least popular for sure
molten latch
Ye
molten loom
Or how many people are competitive players
gray vine
is there anywhere that actually explains these events, i seem to have missed most as there are just no announcments for them
clear lichen
If I was a betting Internet user, I'd bet on either Volbeat+Illumise, Luvdisc or...
But I do think it's one of these 3
gray vine
<#302158319886532618>
yes just tell me where lul
humble lance
role icon contest: August 16
emote contest: August 19
elusive pokedex event: August 19
dex entry contest: August 20
clear lichen
Or how many people are competitive players
Yeah but apart from competitive there isn't really any major difference between Luvdisc and Alo
molten latch
I put the elemental monkes on 3 because they have variety.
gray vine
role icon contest: `August 16`
emote contest: `August 19`
elusive pokedex event:...
those are dates
which i know
clear lichen
So I'd assume it'd start even and get slightly tilted in Alomomola's favour
molten loom
yes just tell me where lul
#announcements message for the tournaments and movies
humble lance
i didnt know
i wanted to know when the contests end
clear lichen
But once again it's all just guesses
humble lance
and when those mons would roughly be revealed
gray vine
https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/302158319886532618/1271246481281...
all i can find is this
none of these give any explanation on the events
clear lichen
I have seen like 1 or 2 diehard EleMonkey fans here though
And I have seen 0 for Volbeat or Illumise
But I don't exactly see people hate on them either so who knows
molten loom
none of these give any explanation on the events
Ok what exactly do you mean by the events?
humble lance
yeah volbeat and illumise are fine but theres better mons for fusion material
molten loom
Do you mean the sprite ones?
clear lichen
I think the biggest impact Volbeat and Illumise would have is give a reason for the devs to remove Tail Glow as a tutor move
gray vine
there was an emote contest and an "elusive pokedex event" on the 12th appearntly, there was no announcment for it, no link for it, no nothing, how would one have joined it, what does one do to win, what exactly are they about
molten loom
There is prep for the tournaments
hot hamlet
there was an emote contest and an "elusive pokedex event" on the 12th appearntly...
They announced the contests on day of
clear lichen
Because I've noticed most the tutor moves are moves nothing currently in the game learns
humble lance
i should submit my entry for the emoji contest
hot hamlet
And the Dex event is ongoing till Tuesday
molten loom
there was an emote contest and an "elusive pokedex event" on the 12th appearntly...
Oh that's #event-announcements
You don't have the special event pings role
gray vine
Oh that's <#641801364376256512>
ah thank you
clear lichen
Because I've noticed most the tutor moves are moves nothing currently in the gam...
Well more so they add the moves nothing present has to a tutor
gray vine
why is that at the very bottom of the server tho
molten loom
You don't have the special event pings role
You get it from #roles
clear lichen
And whenever the move starts actually having a user, they remove it
hot hamlet
i should submit my entry for the emoji contest
Slowforest noticed the fair suggestion I made. And Pory gave them the link. What happens after is 🤷♂️
clear lichen
So yeah, Volbeat+Illumise getting in = No more Reshiram fusions getting free Tail Glow
Whether you think this is good or bad, I dunno
humble lance
Slowforest noticed the fair suggestion I made. And Pory gave them the link. What...
thats fair
clear lichen
What is that tutor called anyways?
hot hamlet
What is that tutor called anyways?
Special move tutor?
clear lichen
The guy who teaches Pokemon moves that no currently existing Pokemon can get without him?
clear lichen
Special move tutor?
Yeah that guy
hot hamlet
That was my guess
clear lichen
Tail Glow likely gets removed from the pool of moves he has
If Illumise and Volbeat get in
hot hamlet
I hope not. I genuinely do not care for them
molten latch
Ye
clear lichen
Yeah the thing is they are NOT getting in
I have not seen a single person say anything good about them both in and out of this server
I haven't seen anyone say anything bad either tbf
Apart from being bad in battle but that's obvious
clear lichen
But yeah, whenever a mon with Tail Glow gets in, Reshiram likely stops having free Tail Glow
hot hamlet
Only care about aesthetics but okay
clear lichen
But that Pokemon is almost certainly Manaphy
And not Volbeat or Illumise
I dont even think Volbeat gets Tail Glow
I think only Illumise gets Tail Glow
humble lance
ok first emoji entry submitted
i will work on the other one later
hot hamlet
ok first emoji entry submitted
i will work on the other one later
Back to it!whip crack
clear lichen
And I doubt Manaphy would be a top priority vote compared to other legendaries
Or mythicals technically but same difference
hot hamlet
I’d want Shaymin over Mana
clear lichen
Water is an extremely common type
molten latch
Same
clear lichen
And that carries over to Infinite Fusion
molten latch
Shaymin is so cute
hot hamlet
Heghoog
clear lichen
Manaphy would only matter in a Nuzlocke though on that front
molten latch
However we are not sure about the 2nd vote yet
clear lichen
The only legendary/mythical I can see being common is Phione and even that I'm against it
hot hamlet
I’m still awaiting contest results for the Dex entry thing. My odds of winning are very low but if done🍦
clear lichen
Phione probably needs it though
molten latch
If Legendaries, Mythical or UB will gonna be in the 2nd vote I mean.
hot hamlet
Honestly next legend I want in is the Musketeer Quartet
clear lichen
I'd be betting that Legendaries, Mythicals and UBs would be put against exclusively each other
molten latch
Honestly next legend I want in is the Musketeer Quartet
Nice, I also watched the keldeo movie.
clear lichen
Whether they'll be having a vote like that soon or not is an entirely different question
hot hamlet
Doubt it. They excluded them here because “we can do better than a simple popularity vote”
molten latch
Probably a fusion contest
eternal timber
I think they more meant the Pokemon need events to be made to include them
Because legends are gotten via events in game
clear lichen
Well it's not like you obtain them in game with a popularity poll
So I'm pretty sure they're hosting an event for the legendaries
molten latch
Ye
molten loom
Well it's not like you obtain them in game with a popularity poll
Imagine a quest like that
clear lichen
Whatever they do, and when, I don't know
molten latch
Imagine a quest like that
Kudos
clear lichen
Imagine a quest like that
Boutta search up the answers on the Internet to guarantee getting Lunala 100% of the time
Ig for a popularity poll you'd probably just get whatever legendary you ask for unless it's trying to be vague or something
If its trying to be vague maybe you wouldn't be able to guess well?
But yeah they wouldn't make a popularity poll quest in game
Surely
eternal timber
No, but each legend requires the time, effort, and ideas to implement a quest for
clear lichen
Yeah and they're probably deciding which legendary they're adding next first
And how would they do that? Having an event to decide which to add
molten latch
True
eternal timber
Or based on staff bias
molten loom
But yeah they wouldn't make a popularity poll quest in game
I was thinking more having to convince people to vote for a mon in the game, and at the end the mon joins the party
clear lichen
I was thinking more having to convince people to vote for a mon in the game, and...
It'd feel a bit goofy though, I don't really think someone would vote for the personification of death
In universe
Where you're actually at danger of dying
molten latch
Oof cough cough Eternatus
clear lichen
Have to clarify that
eternal timber
Honestly if there was any contest in game it would be fun to have a contest you cant enter thats basically the gen 3/4 contests and you can get a contest Pokemon from it (feebas, skitty, glameow)
clear lichen
Yveltal's actually one of my favourite Pokemon
snow scroll
Where you're actually at danger of dying
the idea is to kill the enemy before they kill you
which death incarnate does a fine job of doing tbh
molten loom
Where you're actually at danger of dying
I also thought more of a test from the lake trio
clear lichen
the idea is to kill the enemy before they kill you
Bro I thought you were suggesting to kill Yveltal
And I was like "hey wait a fucking minute"
eternal timber
How many lakes are in game
The lake trio could randomly be each at a different one
snow scroll
1?
eternal timber
Bro I thought you were suggesting to kill Yveltal
That’s a good way to kill everything lol
snow scroll
all I remember atm is the lake of rage
clear lichen
There's a lake in the safari zone ig
eternal timber
I think there’s a lake or something where dratini hang out
clear lichen
But man that would be annoying
snow scroll
kanto/johto are a lot more sea-centric
molten latch
Heatran is a legendary, but so sad that nobody likes it.
eternal timber
Heatran is weird
molten latch
Also the trainer from the anime does have one
eternal timber
How come you actually have a gender ratio
clear lichen
Something something competitive Pokemon
snow scroll
Heatran is a legendary, but so sad that nobody likes it.
bc of the paper-shredder known as "ground types"
clear lichen
Yeah no Heatran definitely isn't popular
eternal timber
I think almost every other legend is male, female, or genderless
Instead of having a ratio
snow scroll
heatran with a balloon sweeps
molten loom
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no, don't ask how a balloon can lift 430 kg of solid metal
eternal timber
Heatran is so fucking weird
clear lichen
Hey what's the heaviest Pokemon that can hold an Air Balloon and isn't visually levitating
eternal timber
Casually owned by a trainer in the anime, can be male or female
snow scroll
heatran should not only weigh 430 kg
that's over nine times less than an asian elephant
an ELEPHANT steamrolls heatran
clear lichen
Yeah Pokemon are weirdly light
eternal timber
Heatran feels like it’s too designed to be a normal Pokemon but also not treated like a legend
clear lichen
an ELEPHANT steamrolls heatran
Nah, Elephant gets cooked before it gets close
snow scroll
Nah, Elephant gets cooked before it gets close
elephants form elephant ladder
molten loom
Heatran is only
clear lichen
elephants form elephant ladder
Oh shit
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elephant at the top uses elephant sky attack
eternal timber
He doesn’t even weigh a ton
clear lichen
elephant at the top uses elephant sky attack
That's resisted
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IKR
molten latch
Which elephant do you mean? Copperajah?
clear lichen
It's fine
eternal timber
Not even a half ton
clear lichen
Heatran wins this
Would an Elephant logically be able to learn Headlong Rush?
Like a normal ass elephant
Not some Ground/Fighting one
That can also cause earthquakes
eternal timber
Man has anyone even talked about lillipup line
snow scroll
That's resisted
unfortunately, heatran is introduced to the miracle known as ✨p h y s i c s✨
39,200 neutons of force
clear lichen
unfortunately, heatran is introduced to the miracle known as ✨p h y s i c s✨
Pokemon simply deny physics
snow scroll
it was never really a contest tbh
eternal timber
Like in general when talking about what to vote for
clear lichen
Physics don't exist in the Pokemon world everyone knows that
If Lanturn hasn't blown a hole through the universe yet it's safe to say the laws of physics IRL are different from the laws of physics in Pokemon
Or yknow a black hole just not instantly killing the trainer Gardevoir is trying to protect
And Gardevoir itself too, probably
And yknow, just Magcargo
So ig it depends on whose terf they're playing on
If you bring an Elephant into Pokemon it'd probably get squished
Vice versa, I'd say it'd perform pretty well against some
And also still get destroyed against others
snow scroll
magcargo is tolerable tbh
like
air is a passable insulator
and the "hotter than 10000 deg" thing is inside its body
clear lichen
Because I feel like the trainer is standing way too close to Magcargo
hidden relic
Squirrel.
eternal timber
The sun reaches us with so much heat because vacuum of space
clear lichen
it probably has measures for regulating its body temp
Isn't Magcargo literally living magma
snow scroll
no, i don't care that you're going to go hungry
eternal timber
And magcargo especially cant be too hot because the shell would melt
eternal timber
So it has to keep the temperature on the surface lower
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and rock has a certain melting temp
clear lichen
And that's why the laws of physics don't exist in the Pokemon world
snow scroll
lightning alone is 5x as hot as the surface of the sun
but people have survived lightning strikes before
hidden relic
What next?
eternal timber
Honestly the biggest worry with lightning isnt even the heat
clear lichen
Also, squirrel
eternal timber
The contact time is so short, the worry is your own internal circuitry
hexed agate
What next?
Escavalier if you haven't yet
eternal timber
Something like lightning can really fuck with our meats electric pathways
snow scroll
I should also state that the highest temperature ever recorded on earth was 5.5 trillion degrees celsius
eternal timber
And then heart does a bad
snow scroll
but we're all still alive
molten latch
Funny that I vote Dedenne in 3 for some no reason over the other Pikaclones.
clear lichen
Would it even be possible to output enough energy to bend spacetime
eternal timber
Yeah, that’s just the very very core temperature of magcargo
Dont touch the thing, but it’s not deadly to stand near
snow scroll
^^^^^
cooled lava + rock + air is a good enough insulator
magcargo can still be your bestie
clear lichen
Because I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Eternamax Eternatus does
snow scroll
just don't poke it hard
eternal timber
The rock is probably hot enough to cook your flesh if you touch it
snow scroll
lanturn needs to die, though
eternal timber
Because rock can get pretty damn hot without melting
Ok, so what’s with lanturn
I dont know my lanturn lore
clear lichen
I'm not extremely well versed but I've been told something along the lines of the planet would probably just be completely wiped out
snow scroll
Ok, so what’s with lanturn
this
is not possible
light physically cannot be spotted from the surface at those depths
snow scroll
there's a reason that nuclear reactors use water for cooling
eternal timber
I bet it’s just exaggerations
clear lichen
Lanturn is breaking the laws of physics basically
snow scroll
it's great at insulating energy