pif-hoenn-discussion

[silent acorn]

Hoppity on your property

[hushed mantle]

eat all the bruxish votes

[frozen oyster]

Im hopin I managed to sway a few people to Slurpuff and Drampa at least.

[woeful nebula]

why eat the votes when you can eat the rich

[green yew]

Bruxish is a fish, it's only right to consume their kind.

[civic lily]

They really should have decided on the staff picks first before making the poll, some of the staff picks (like Trubbish line) were in the poll and thus might have votes that could have went to another non-staff picks instead

[vestal monolith]

Ah well, I hope for the best that Mightyena will get a chance to shine

[remote ibex]

the cards have been dealt now we just need them to play them

[hushed mantle]

i hope i convinced enough people to vote for hoopa before the form change thing was revealed

[silent acorn]

To be fair I am Indifferent if single slots get in, 3 slots though ooooof that burns

[green yew]

Eat the cards.

[remote ibex]

https://tenor.com/bQsnT.gif

[silent acorn]

If 3 slot mons dominate we Will have only 5 mons max

[remote ibex]

im not hungry

[dry nest]

This is true!

[frozen oyster]

they might have taken into consideration the more popular choices vs others.

[naive cobalt]

Marshadow is spectral thiefing every vote as we speak

[stone cliff]

Cards the eat

[frozen oyster]

buuuuuuuuut yeah, it would have been nice to know before hand

[green yew]

https://tallystreasury.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/IMG_8289.jpg
https://tallystreasury.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/IMG_8263.jpg

[celest bobcat]

Avalugg, Regice, or Cryagonal

Which one would you rather have for an Ice head fusion?

[woeful nebula]

shaymin

[silent acorn]

Cryogonal

[naive cobalt]

Cryogonal

[silent acorn]

Avalugg is kinda Middle on that

[remote ibex]

https://tenor.com/bwicN.gif

[naive cobalt]

Do you guys prefer mawile or sableye and also mega mawile or mega sableye

[silent acorn]

Mawile

[remote ibex]

Mega sabeleye and mawile any day of the week

[stable mango]

Mega mawile

[stone cliff]

Sableye. He's a perfect lil gem gremlin

[celest bobcat]

Both should team up I say

[remote ibex]

https://tenor.com/bJDnO.gif

[silent acorn]

Dual mega fusion

[stable mango]

A team up of two typings annoying to fight against

[celest bobcat]

Btw
Planning to do a Mawile/Sableye fusion that's just Soul Eater

[silent acorn]

How long do you think until we know results of the voting?

[remote ibex]

https://tenor.com/bKhPb.gif

[stone cliff]

Check pins

[woeful nebula]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1128955888577822832/1147690891511857262/attachment.gif

[stable mango]

If Altaria gets in would it's fusion with whimsicott just make mega Altaria?

[remote ibex]

we(literally only me) want more refrence fusions

[stone cliff]

Usually double fusions result in mega

[remote ibex]

i think we should make megas alts and have unique fusions as the base allowing people to switch between the two

[naive cobalt]

this would be great for mawile to have the greatest comeback ever

[stone cliff]

Ain't up to me lol

[naive cobalt]

hopefully one day 🙏

[stone cliff]

Mawile + Sableye should have 2 big gems on its back lol

[stable mango]

I had a dark thought what if the Squirtle and trubbish fusions are dead from a 6 pack ring

[remote ibex]

honestly i want more shi like this

[naive cobalt]

What

[woeful nebula]

one piece references?

[stable mango]

Dead Squirtle from garbage

[remote ibex]

https://tenor.com/bIxqm.gif

[white meadow]

Gomu

[stable mango]

Less dark thoughts for fusions with trubish replacing hitmonchan's boxing gloves with trash bags

[remote ibex]

william afton

trubbish + loppuny

[silent acorn]

Cant find it honestly

[remote ibex]

here

[stable mango]

Delibird carrying a sack of garbage instead of presents

[silent acorn]

Time to wait then

[woeful nebula]

the first one brotha
they dont have a confirmed date for release

[silent acorn]

Thank you by the way

[remote ibex]

np

[stone cliff]

Also some missing info

When asked about when the update might be done

But definitely nothing solid in terms of release date yet

[woeful nebula]

nothing 100% confirmed

[stiff ember]

Mfw excellent news in announcements as always

Now

Stuntank when.

[sharp sphinx]

never

[stiff ember]

Only pokemon i actually want realistically

[slate gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/spheal-pokemon-here-comes-the-boi-boi-pouic-gif-22554922

[viscid mica]

wait so, are there like 9 pokemon added for no slots

[stiff ember]

Watch they just lied about the slots and we get everything lmao

[viscid mica]

amen

[frozen oyster]

Oh these are cute.

[stiff ember]

Im very very very happy about garboder tho

[stable mango]

All of the yes

[worthy sleet]

big appreciation for the 6 new pokemon out of the count tbh, lots of new fusion ideas already and we haven't even gotten our full 20

[normal lake]

none of those are allowed to evolve ever

especially the trubbish driftloon

i really like it lol

[thick mauve]

That’s so cute

[frozen oyster]

Unsurprisingly, I love the slurpuff one.

[stable mango]

As a joke alt for garbadour fusions I'd like to take all the pokemon people consider waifus and put them in trashcans

[normal lake]

lol

[frozen oyster]

Oh my lord the little fishy one is so dang cute. Halloween candy and flour are great. Moneybag one is definitely gonna be meowth

Dang I never knew trubbish was so popular but I'm glad

[normal lake]

mini ore

[stable mango]

Omg if someone doesn't do something similar with that fish one for goldeen an opportunity will have been missed

[frozen oyster]

Little holes poked in the bag by the horn

[stable mango]

Yesss that would be so good

[frozen oyster]

These are cool! Glad to see hawlucha get some attention too

[normal lake]

what would ore and spiritomb make?

[sand mica]

What do you think of these cute pictures of Grumpig?

[stable mango]

Much swine not enough bounce

[vestal monolith]

Oh my gosh, CRANTIME Grumpig spotted!

[normal lake]

that pigglet in the bottom middle tho

[frozen oyster]

Probably a black hole aesthetic

[normal lake]

thats what i was thinking

[lament wedge]

imagine this- Nuzleaf

[normal lake]

does shiftry and hypno make jiraya?

[stable mango]

Minior and deoxys just make the meteorite sprite it came out of

[sand mica]

Happy Skuntank Day!

[forest vapor]

OMG ORICORIO YESSS (I am so late oof) time to maybe try spriting for contest yay labor day

[normal lake]

and the meteorites name will be dwayne

[stable mango]

I'd love to apply the fur pattern of mightyena to Sylveon, I think that fusion could make some good punk rock aesthetics

[sand mica]

Can we insert Skuntank into slot 435 and put Garbodor to 437?

[marsh folio]

Stop pushing for propaganda when the polls are closed

At this point it's just annoying

[lethal roost]

my children!!!

[hushed mantle]

Now we just have to convince the mods to rig the votes in our favor

[marsh folio]

Again if they get another staff pick it should be goodra

[pure flower]

Garbabor made it in? That's rather interesting

[marsh folio]

Garbodor was my number one pick! The power of trash is limitless

[cyan hare]

bruh there are so many pokemon added by the staff when are they gonna reveal shit from the poll hahahahahaha

[restive halo]

Press F to thank the frog man for letting us have so many extra pokemon besides the 20 slots we got as-is.

As someone who has messed with RPG Maker before, man is a miracle worker for dealing with that.

[cyan hare]

at this point they are gonna add the entire dex

[restive halo]

Might happen eventually.

[hushed mantle]

Plot twist: the poll is a lie, they’re going to add them all

[cyan hare]

lmao at this point i wouldnt be suprised

[restive halo]

Devs pull a "everyone is here" on us, oh boi.

[frozen rover]

I certainly hope so. Also, please consider

[hushed mantle]

smash ultimate theme starts playing

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/spoink-pig-sharing-food-bros-anime-gif-15323351425930445434

Grumpig terrible but spoink.... Omg spoink is perfect

[raw bison]

He got the game to do the fusion math for him instead of having to have a database for the stats for every fusion which is a huge game changer. I don't know how much space he got freed up with that but it's gotta be a lot and I salute the Man of Frogs

[restive halo]

If Frog man actually manages to do every Spinda pattern in existence for the game too, then he's insane.

[frozen rover]

Gotta be absolute tons, considering how massive those tables already are

[lethal roost]

spinda's sprite doesn't even have the patterns on it in the first place lol

[frozen rover]

I think spinda is fine with just one dex slot

[restive halo]

Honestly if we keep getting the dex expanded, eventually we need a map expansion to hold them all.

[lethal roost]

i do think implies there's something wrong that needs to be fixed and, if you can, you should tell them what you saw wrong

[coarse karma]

I should of, they said I should of. I just didn't know what to say, cause I was nervous since I only just scratched 20 fusions and they've made so many. I was worried about coming off as rude. But in the end I still came off as rude anyways for not voicing my opinion. that's on me.

[raw bison]

If I did the math right he essentially freed up 176,000 table entries for every Stat he managed to automate (abilities, types, actual stats, names, etc)

And while things like the sprites are still gonna need all their individual files to reference that's still a LOT of base data that's now free

[coarse karma]

:OOO

[raw bison]

I don't have the knowhow to figure how many bytes that works out to but it's still a Huge improvement having the game do( X + Y )/ 2 instead of pulling a specific set of data from a table of over 175 THOUSAND options

[marsh folio]

Orange Islands???

[restive halo]

I am still salty that even though Ash won the championship there, no one ever let it count because "IT ISN'T FROM MUH GAMES SO NOT CANON".

[coarse karma]

i'll take that to note. thank you.

[lethal roost]

👍

idk maybe now that voting's over once i get my contest sprite sorted I'll just sprite some minior for fun

[marsh folio]

Orange Islands only has four gyms and is small enough to reasonably add to the map

[coarse karma]

I voted

love these so flippin much

[graceful torrent]

Yo the dev is going CRAZY with these additions

[final forge]

Fr

[cyan hare]

actually insane yea my hope for dhelmise grows a bit

[graceful torrent]

20 plus like 8

[sharp sphinx]

20+9+at least 1 +any other surprise staff ones

[sand mica]

At least the roster is getting better. The staff picks so far are of Pokémon I'm interested in.

[final forge]

We've had 3 staff picks so far right? Imo it's safe to say we're gonna get 1 for each staff member

[sand mica]

[mild sedge]

maybe, but somebody in another server we have says that Necrozma is next contest

[violet pawn]

Just saw the announcements. This is so awesome. Plus a playtest version wth. I feel like by the time all the votemons are announced we'll have an equal amount of bonus picks

[mild sedge]

no idea how it just jumps to Necrozma but I won’t argue

[final forge]

[mild sedge]

yeah NGS Server

[lethal roost]

so some random guy in another server said necrozma is in? hmm.

[final forge]

Is this a persona 4 golden on god moment?

[mild sedge]

no not on god. But either way I’ve gotta keep up the Necrozma trend

[rocky condor]

I'd be ecstatic ngl

[final forge]

Real

[mild sedge]

it would be cool to see Necrozma but I’m starting to care less ngl

[rocky condor]

The good ending

[lethal roost]

i mean i want necrozma but i want Xern/Yvel more

[mild sedge]

I mean yeah there’s a bunch of reason and stuff but

[fleet bramble]

It would be weird to add necro when the gen 6 cover legends aren't in yeah

[mild sedge]

that one drawback.

[final forge]

If that was the case why are they separate voting options

[mild sedge]

oh yeah right they are seperate

[fleet bramble]

Although I guess Tyrantrum's in without Aurorus, Archeops, or Carracosta

[mild sedge]

for literally the two people who haven’t seen it

[lethal roost]

tbf "why would we have x when y isnt in" could apply to a lot of things

[lethal roost]

and i dont think its very convincing

[mild sedge]

Either way we can all agree (hopefully)

Zygarde is Sick Af and should get in

[lethal roost]

true

[mild sedge]

ooh cool flag like design background

[clever charm]

Can they just announce that Noibat is in please lmfao

[violet pawn]

I love how mischievous the sylveon/noibat looks

[clever charm]

Ikr

[lethal roost]

yeah i had a similar background on mine (goat)

[mild sedge]

reminder of why you SHOULDNT vote bruxish

[final forge]

Been rooting mainly for ngs this whole time but zygarde has always been my favorite pokemon

[violet pawn]

:(((((((((((((

[mystic rivet]

that's pokemon slander. you can make a fusion look ugly or cool if you put in the effort

[mild sedge]

Zygarde Sick af and is counted as ally of ngs because screw the haters
removed cuss cuz yes

[mild sedge]

I admit one bruxish/necrozma Fusion somebody made was cool

[mild sedge]

here’s the concept art, somebody else made the Sprite
wow it got silent only im talking 💀

[maiden flume]

Day 2 of pushing for Toxicroak, Aurorus, Crustle, Crawdaunt, and Carracosta

[coarse karma]

I used to be in a server that used the initials NGS for nimbasa gear station so it's been throwing me off joined a gen 5 server last year i've been wondering for a couple weeks now, which one of the pokemon does NGS stand for here.

[frank oxide]

we getting so much extra

[coarse karma]

plot twist, everything from the poll gets added.

[frank oxide]

that would be great

like ye,i dont like some pokemon but as long as my boy gets added i really dont care

[worthy dagger]

There's so much talk of Bruxish, I feel like it'll get in as a meme.

[maiden flume]

To be fair to it... It does actually have a great ability and move combo, so it'll be fantastic Fusion material

[alpine rune]

I dont hate it like i hate cosmoem

I just find bruxish unappealing

[maiden flume]

At least Cosmoem will ACTUALLY be useful with Eviolite in this

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-though-thor-smile-gif-13334930

[maiden flume]

Yes

[alpine rune]

I wont complain about it anymore considering the votes are essentially over, i just hope im not the only one who thinks that its a wasted slot

[maiden flume]

Cosmic Power and some other sort of wall mon with everything it needs, as well as a good defensive Psycic combo

[alpine rune]

tbh, anything that's not a chansey or a clefable isnt going to eat any hits when fused

[maiden flume]

I just hope at least Aurorus, Crustle, and Crawdaunt get in

[alpine rune]

Cuz psychic is a bad secondary typing, especially for a wall imo

[maiden flume]

Or at least Aurorus

[maiden flume]

Primary Steel says otherwise(Though it's mainly Steel making it both an offensive and defensive threat)

[alpine rune]

Oh wow a purely defensive typing makes the psychic less shit at being defensive, who knew

[maiden flume]

Aaaand I'm done with this conversation

[alpine rune]

but fr tho, pure steel is just better

If only steel still resist dark and ghost

[maiden flume]

Bug/Steel is even better

[alpine rune]

My point exactly, psychic is worse that i thought

[maiden flume]

Flying and Grass also pair well defensively with Steel

As we've seen with Skarmory and Celesteela on the Flying side

And Corv

Anyway, if Aurorus doesn't get in, I'm gonna be disappointed in the community

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/aurorus-ice-dinosaur-frozen-man-professor-oak-pokemon-gif-3841999211292882266

[maiden flume]

Refridgerate is just too good to pass up

And we'd get a Hail setting option too

[alpine rune]

none of my most wanted mons still got into the game

[maiden flume]

Lurantis would be amazing to get too

Another Contrary user would be highly appreciated

[alpine rune]

But i got oricorio which is fine and dandy

Not my top 20, but I dont want it because I would feel like the community would get angry at me for rooting the "useless" birbs

[trail hull]

Just woke up and wow trubbish is in there so many mon coming

[maiden flume]

Which... It isn't

[alpine rune]

ikr

[maiden flume]

People just don't think about how good Dancer is

[alpine rune]

Nah people dont play doubles in a casual setting, rendering dancer useless or at best, niche in playthrougs

[maiden flume]

... Well at least we're getting more Primary options for Volc Fusions?

[alpine rune]

Yea i want to pair the birbs with volca and butterfree

[maiden flume]

Though the ones we have are... Still... Better...

Wow, uh...

My argument for defending it really went out the window ._.

[lilac vine]

WE GOT GARBADOR LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[maiden flume]

Garbodor on the other hand, ACTUALLY underrated

[marsh lily]

We can now make sea pokemon suffer from pollution.

[alpine rune]

Ah yes, Unovan Muk

[maiden flume]

Now we have another Primary AND Secondary Poison option

Good bulk too!

[reef pivot]

how many pokemon left to be voted in

[trail hull]

14

[maiden flume]

And another Stench option

[marsh lily]

Oh yeah, completely forgot the living piles of garbage were poison types.

[alpine rune]

about 14

[reef pivot]

👍

[marsh lily]

8 days left.

[trail hull]

For what ?

[marsh lily]

And we'll all be free.

[marsh lily]

The destruction of this channel.

[trail hull]

Oh no

[maiden flume]

What's actually better, Serene Grace + Flinch + King's Rock/Razor Fang, Skill Link + King's Rock/Razor Fang, or Stench + King's Rock/Razor Fang + Flinch?

[trail hull]

I dont wanna leave

[reef pivot]

idk these abilities except serence grace so 👍

[slate gazelle]

I really just hope Spheal’s getting in

I had other mons I wanted but it’s okay if they don’t get in
I just want my boi

[alpine rune]

wait what really?

[agile olive]

I really just want golisopod and tropius, but also @marsh lily

[slate gazelle]

Tropius would be cool (I want to kill autocorrect/j)

[marsh lily]

I see what you did there.

[agile olive]

hi 🙂

[marsh lily]

hi

[north spindle]

So, I don't expect you all to vote for Regis, But Ill explain the majority reason I'm voting for them.
A good friend of mine, one who actually has a hand in making a couple sprites themselves, Their favorite pokemon is Registeel.
This good friend has made a name for themselves in the community I hail from, and is beloved/despised for his Cursed Shitposting.
However, Tragedy Struck him really hard, as he lost a beloved family member, and has been in a bit of an on/off depression rut because of it.
While we've been comforting him, this Whole Vote began to happen, and we saw the regis as options, and that's mainly why I'm going all in on regis.
cause I know for a fact if his Lad gets in, he is gonna be responsible for a good chunk of their sprites.
Again, I don't expect those to read this to change or sway their vote if they don't wish to, Just explaining my big reason behind my stance.

[clever atlas]

I'm willing to argue with the devs about the lycanroc line potentially taking 4 slots
And I've got the argument of false advertising on my side

[forest timber]

OMG WE ACTUALLY GOT TRUBBISH AND GARBODOR

One of my big mons are here now

[slate gazelle]

these guys would be pain if they all took separate slots

[royal drum]

So far we have

1. Sableye
2. Tyrunt
3. Tyrantrum
4. Snorunt
5. Glalie
6. Froslass

Staff pick: venipede, whirlipede and scolipede, oricorio baile, oricorio pom-pom, oricorio pa'u, oricorio sensu, trubbish, garbodor

[vague fog]

14 mons to go at the very least

[civic lily]

Hopefully one of them is Meloetta

And another one is Diancie 👀

Tbh I want Diancie more because fusions can finally give her actual legs, lol

[sturdy breach]

We are still in the running! Nothing I have to replace yet 🙂

[hushed mantle]

good night people i hope y'all voted for hoopa or else i'll have a nightmare

[sturdy breach]

Enjoy your nightmare! (I didn't vote Hoopa sorry)

[hushed mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-walter-heisenberg-crawl-space-gif-19584363

[agile olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1137892936915361942/1138047843031072838/image.png

[wanton turtle]

hey guys. mienshao. goodnight.

[sterile verge]

The voting time is over, now is the waiting period

[wanton turtle]

fair.

i have not been paying attention so i don't know nothin i just like mienshao

[sterile verge]

Let me tell you that every time I see not minior or castform get announced I get a exponential anxiety increase

[wanton turtle]

ngl i've accepted that mienshao, very likely, isn't getting in. havent' seen much love or even thoughts of her at all. but i'm still gonna say she should be there.

[sterile verge]

I saw someone post several very well sprited minior sprites hours after the poll closed

[north spindle]

I voted For Minior

[slate gazelle]

I’m really hoping that Spheal gets in
A lot of people like Spheal so it has a decent chance
But in a poll filled with legends and mythicals, I’m not sure how much of a chance there is

I’m going to be sad when this channel gets archived though
I really enjoyed talking here

[sterile verge]

Same

Ima miss the propaganda posters and shitposts

[slate gazelle]

It’s fun seeing art and sprites of Pokémon that previously I have never had a single thought about

[north spindle]

I may want regis to get in for my friend, and because It gives me an excuse to make Breadgirock in a canon game, that doesnt mean I dont have alternate choices as well.
Minior, Goodra line, Amaura line, Lotad line, Wingull line, Gulpin line, numel line, Swablu line, Baltoy line, Scorupi line, Scraggy line, Darumaka line, Vanillite line, Tynamo line, Inkay line, Bergmite line, Phantump line, Grubbin line, Rockruf line, Wishiwashi line, Sandyghast line, Dhelmise, Meltan and Melmetal.

these are ones I want to get in.

rest im neutral or against

[slate gazelle]

There are too many Pokémon I like

[north spindle]

majoring on neutral.

[fathom sage]

Crustle.

[slate gazelle]

I’m basically team “Everything but Amoongus and Skuntank”

[woeful nebula]

can we get a 'the votes are closed' in the pins

[alpine rune]

My votes:

1. Spinda no 555'231
2. Spinda no 2'304'221
3. Spinda no 33'185'345
4. Spinda no 1'884
5. Spinda no 420
6. Spinda no 119'247
7. Spinda no 884'312
8. Spinda no 277'234'589
9. Spinda no 121
10. Spinda no 57'442'800
11. Spinda no 342'094'222
12. Spinda no 269'692
13. Spinda no 13
14. Spinda no 773'284

[woeful nebula]

what happened to spinder number 14

[slate gazelle]

ones I’m really hoping for though are
Spheal
Diancie
Meloetta
Aurorus
Lycanroc
Staraptor
Lunala
Shaymin
Florges
Zebstrika
Minior
Toxicroak
Linoone

[alpine rune]

I dont like no 14

[woeful nebula]

14 is the coolest fucking number what are you on

[slate gazelle]

I can’t organize that into a clean list of 20 because I like so many different mons

[alpine rune]

my car

[woeful nebula]

get off it then

[alpine rune]

no

[woeful nebula]

why not

[alpine rune]

Im currenatlys drfiing at 60 kmmh

[woeful nebula]

hit a family of 4

[maiden flume]

Really hope at least Aurorus and Noivern get in out of my votes

Scolipede and Tyrantrum did as Staff picks, so I can hope

[alpine rune]

tyrantrum arent staff picks

[clever atlas]

Thank you all who voted for Lycanroc
And those who didn't, may your pillow always be warm and your socks cold and wet

[alpine rune]

the only staff picks so far are garboder, centipede and the funny birbs

[alpine rune]

I like warm pillows

[normal lake]

I also like warm pillows

[clever atlas]

Weirdos

[normal lake]

And I rarely wear socks just saying

XP

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[normal lake]

Why not vote for more than one pokemon? Lol

[alpine rune]

the votes are over tho, so it wouldnt matter now

[normal lake]

Oof

[clever atlas]

Im not saying i voted for only lycanroc, im saying everyone who did have lycanroc as one of their votes is inherently a better person

[alpine rune]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-power-rangers-funny-gif-15052721

[normal lake]

I like cats AND dogs don't judge XD also I hate most cold things unless I drink soda or eat ice cream otherwise hot tea for me

Room temp or warm water

[outer hound]

pog trubish is here , trubish + muk fusions gotta happen

[white meadow]

no way they added the fanbase to if

[normal lake]

I don't believe anyone is enherently better JUST because of the pokemon they chose though that's just silly lol

[white meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-evrima-kaperoo-pterodactylus-worthless-gif-25321517

[normal lake]

I haven't seen power rangers in so long

Whenever I'm reminded of power rangers I also remember beetleborgs

What's that dino gif from?

[white meadow]

no idea, i legit just found it randomly like 2 days ago

[normal lake]

Oh lol

How does the voting process work? Is it just one pokemon? Will they put in another later on from what we already chose?

[lunar mica]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-pokemon-mrbeast-mrxurkitree-gif-9984008711675004103

[normal lake]

MRTREE!!!

[lunar mica]

MRTREE!!!!

[normal lake]

Not enough pokemon memes in here

[lunar mica]

I agree

Also I love this man’s running animation, it’s so goofy

[normal lake]

Is that what it's like normally?

[lunar mica]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-gif-9674416

[normal lake]

XD!

[lunar mica]

Yea lmao I think it is

[agile olive]

wtf

[civic lily]

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-pokemon-gif-9928805

https://tenor.com/view/xurkitree-pokemon-ultra-plant-gif-24549446

[normal lake]

Digimon rearise

[civic lily]

They can grow to gigantic proportion too, the one you battle in US/UM is essentially just a baby

[normal lake]

Oh I only played the 1st sun and moon

Well no I played like the first 2 gyms of ultra

After that I think

[civic lily]

My pfp? Yeah Herissmon is from ReArise, but my pfp is actually from his anime debut in Ghost Game 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-ghost-game-herrismon-anime-re-arise-gif-26173471

[normal lake]

Ghost game was so good

I liked the horror stuff so much

Maybe it's been too long already I didn't remember herissmon in it >.<

I'm super forgetful XD

[cyan hare]

slowly feeling an everything is here coming soon

[civic lily]

Well, it appeared for only one episode, the Tropiamon vs Tethysmon episode, where TeslaJellymon first evolved into Tethysmon

Herissmon appeared during the scene where the gang has to find an underground way to enter the mall attacked by Tropiamon, since poison covers the entrance above

[normal lake]

Ohhh okay thank you

[bold atlas]

this is alot of Bonuses huh

[normal lake]

Ur name is pretty fair and I feel that lol

[fresh salmon]

Has the poll already ended?

[mint nymph]

just curious if croagunk is any popular, i dont see anyone really talk about him.

[civic lily]

Yes

Now we wait

[fresh salmon]

Ok

[trail hull]

Guys apparently finneon has been found in the play test

[neat hemlock]

What an odd Pikachu, zigzagoon, and sandslash combo

[gusty shuttle]

I love how in the end we're getting way more than 20 pokémon thanks to staff
I think we'll all be satisfied at the end

[gusty shuttle]

Unless you're interested only in a very specific unpopular pokémon

[prime stirrup]

Not the starter voters

[low vortex]

Hellooo guyyyys!!! I´m new here, ive just installed the game, but when i open it it´s covered in green and black stripes. I´ve already download and move the custombattle folder into the graphics, but nothing seems to happen 😦

[gusty shuttle]

They said starters will probably come back since a lot of people were interested

[prime stirrup]

The fact that you didn’t say Togademaru

[gusty shuttle]

I think you should use the Problems group of channels, here you won't find much help sorry

[prime stirrup]

They said they might, with hard emphasis on “might”

So it’s possible but not too probable

[gusty shuttle]

Look, I'm optimistic and I transformed it in a "probably will" since they're so generous 😌

[neat hemlock]

I don't even know who that is

[trail hull]

https://tenor.com/view/togedemaru-pokemon-cute-smiling-gif-16392774

[neat hemlock]

Not a real pokemon...

[tame flax]

they changed stat calc in a way that might make it a lot more likely

[trail hull]

It is official

[gusty shuttle]

Hamtaro freebooter

[neat hemlock]

This

[tame flax]

theyre probably going to keep this channel until all tthe results are revealed

[prime stirrup]

Yeah

[neat hemlock]

They'll keep it for longer, to re start the discussion on how it went

And to stoke hatred and evil of pokermans

[gusty shuttle]

We need this channel to argue about the past votes forever

[tame flax]

Like "Maybe dont change the rules the second after voting ends"

[neat hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/gengar-smile-fly-pokemon-evil-smile-gif-17499525

[alpine rune]

Basically, you want to gaslight other people

[tame flax]

Like imagine youre voting for generic unnamed unaffiliated politician, and suddent right after the polling ends, their platform changes completely

[alpine rune]

Tbh same

[silver ginkgo]

Went to sleep, woke up, garbodor is in...

[bold flax]

it's a staff pick it dosen't count towards the votes

[civic lily]

Sucks for those who actually voted for Trubbish line tho, if there's any XD

Since now that means the vote is wasted, and with the poll closed, no way to change the vote now

I just hope the staff picks are stuff that has very little or next to no votes, so that it's not a waste of vote for many

[robust geyser]

Thinking about it, Frog literally added 9 free mons

That's dope

[civic lily]

Although to be fair, I do think there's not many who voted for Trubbish line anyway, so it's probably fine as a staff pick

[robust geyser]

True but hey, more mon more fun

Trubbish isn't a staff pick though

[trail hull]

Wait the vote is close ?

[robust geyser]

It's an addition by Frog

[prime dust]

it is

because he and garbo don't count towards the 20

[robust geyser]

He doesn't count in the 20 but the staff didn't pick him, Frog just added him

[trail hull]

Since the vote is presumably closed I can change back my name to Normal

[haughty trellis]

That’s basically the same x)

[robust geyser]

No because Frog isn't a staff

[prime dust]

he is

[robust geyser]

He's the dev

[prime dust]

and that means he is staff

[haughty trellis]

If u are the boss of ur own company, do you consider urself not part of the staff ?

[tame flax]

right after they announced forms take slots now

[robust geyser]

That's like saying "dry ice is the same as water because both put out fire"

[trail hull]

Oh okay

So people can’t remove their lycanroc forms

[tame flax]

fun fact, rockruff has 2 forms

so thats a mollywhopping 5 right there

[white meadow]

wait no more trying to force people to change votes?

[robust geyser]

People couldn't change vote anyway

[tame flax]

nothing can be done

[white meadow]

woo hoo

[robust geyser]

Kiwi is still adding illegal votes for Bruxish

[tame flax]

and according to some leaks, which is weird to say for a fan game, but it seems necrozma is in

[junior blaze]

I mean no you always could

[robust geyser]

STOP THE COUNT

[junior blaze]

Just go back to the form and edit

[white meadow]

nah the link legit just doesn't work

[junior blaze]

Ah

[tame flax]

yeah no, they said forms are slots and ended it

after saying for weeks that they werent

[junior blaze]

Well let's pray Vivillon doesn't win because there's temp sprites for all of its forms in the playtest files

[white meadow]

that is such a tm06 move

[junior blaze]

There's temp sprites for all the contest votes, and even mons that will literally never be added

[tame flax]

mfs who voted spinda https://media.tenor.com/s3fcp8cElq4AAAAC/look-up-scared.gif

[junior blaze]

Like inteleon

Gigamax Inteleon, specifically

[civic lily]

If Spinda ever made it in, I think it would just be the blank/spotless one like in many other fanmade pokemon games that don't bother with the random spot system

[tame flax]

i know i was joking

[junior blaze]

I mean I could check the temp files

Also interesting that most mons got a death sound in the files

[tame flax]

yeah

thats a thing in main game, its their cry pitched down because theyre weak

[trail hull]

I think vivillion form and minior would still be alt sprite the only one that should count is form that have stat changes

[junior blaze]

Oooh I forgot to check minior

[civic lily]

Would be funny if like, by next year the game is updated to the point where we can get everything in Gen 4 - 7 in anyway

[trail hull]

That would be cool

[junior blaze]

But yeah even the contest winners have placeholder sprites in the files

[tame flax]

i hope the fart meister is last to spite that one guy whos been a complete ass about it

[trail hull]

Once the 29 mons are added in we’ll get 200+k fusions

[prime dust]

they already said not everything will get added in

the game engine still has limits

[junior blaze]

Question is are they gonna update npc dialogue

[tame flax]

was that before yesterday?

yesterday literally changed everything

[junior blaze]

Yeah but they said that for mons past gen 7 cause there's no stats for them in the version of rpgmaker it uses i thought

[prime dust]

no that was pretty much the case for everything not in the game

[tame flax]

we might get everything up to gen 7

[prime dust]

from what i understand about RPG Maker XP, the main issue behind adding more stuff is dex entries

[trail hull]

And then we would beg forever for gen 8+

[trail hull]

Really ?

[tame flax]

there is an updated version of essentials thats up to gen 8

[prime dust]

i think they said it was one of the bigger reasons why

[trail hull]

To gen 9*

[tame flax]

even better

[junior blaze]

So we still have like 15 slots but we've gotten 9 mons completely free

[prime dust]

14

[white meadow]

do we really want gen 9 tho

[tame flax]

14 slots

[trail hull]

14 slots left

[junior blaze]

Still

[tame flax]

yes

[robust geyser]

there is still hope for sawsbuck

[trail hull]

Yes

[prime dust]

no

[tame flax]

gen 9 is great

[junior blaze]

Oh God sawsbuck and deerling could be disastrous

[prime dust]

just leave it at gen 7 being the max

[junior blaze]

8 slots for 2 pokemon

[gusty shuttle]

I'm very satisfied with gen 7 being the max

[robust geyser]

I'm too but there are several gen 9 pokemon i kinda like

[white meadow]

same

[alpine rune]

👍

[gusty shuttle]

For me it could be even gen 5 being the max

[junior blaze]

Idk why but I feel like stufful is probably gonna win 2 slots

[alpine rune]

Heck I could just be gen 3 and be happe :D

[trail hull]

Same , what I want from gen 9 is just the new legacy evo

[tame flax]

id want paradox fusions

Imagine Tyrant Wing

[prime dust]

no, none of that

[gusty shuttle]

Remember that I dreamt Exploud line being the next community pick and dreams don't lie

[tame flax]

well in that case its gonna be Slurpuff because i just dreamed that and thats a more recent dream

[gusty shuttle]

Did you dream the announcement post like I did? Also I do not care about Exploud so mine is super partes

[white meadow]

"great jugulis"

[trail hull]

In that case I dreamed that every mon got in

[normal lake]

Roaring moon

[gusty shuttle]

I don't think anybody has the brain capacity to dream about every single Pokémon

[tame flax]

dont put your limitations on others

[normal lake]

I liked scream tail but idk if it's good lol

[tame flax]

mechanically or design wise?

[normal lake]

Mechanically

[gusty shuttle]

You dream Slurpuff and you're happy with that don't pretend it's otherwise

[tame flax]

all the paradoxes have minimum 570 bst

[normal lake]

Oh okay XD

I am small brain don't mind me

[tame flax]

he is fast and tanky

dude could be a solid head or body

[normal lake]

How to build it?

[trail hull]

Don’t underestimate me

[tame flax]

what does that have to do with you putting your own limits on others?

[tame flax]

well seeing as a lot of things have changed, as a body it would offer the fairy type and as a head the psychic type

[alpine rune]

I build it like a support tbh

[tame flax]

bodies are the primary typing now it seems

[alpine rune]

oh wait youre talking about fusions

[tame flax]

so we need to rethink how we think what mon gets what typing

[alpine rune]

Jigglypuff but punk rock

[neat hemlock]

Jigglypuff + Zorura is punk rock

[tame flax]

Oonga Boonga Puff

[white meadow]

wait they changed it?

[tame flax]

Look at the playtest mons

[cold sail]

hey what is the LAST version of infinite fusion?

[dark prism]

The oricorio forms give their primary type with body at least

[white meadow]

a h

[tame flax]

but that means all their heads are flying, you know, literally all the flavor and the whole reason theyve caused the Slottening

[normal lake]

I wish paradox pokemon had more than one ability I could switch it to

[alpine rune]

theres a pre release update put its still in the works and might have lots of bugs. its in #announcements if youre wondering

[white meadow]

so a milotic/diancie would just be an useless rock water type

[dark prism]

Oh damn, normally that would be Rock/Ghost huh? So it's not just them it's everything? I wonder if that's intentional. If so that changes a lot.

[cold sail]

ok

[white meadow]

nooooooooooooo

[dark prism]

But it seems kinda wild to change all of that around so it might not be intended

We don't know yet to be fair

[dark prism]

Cute

[tame flax]

well we know an item leak that hints at 4 slots getting taken

[white meadow]

i don't want her to be a rock type aaaaaa

[crude garden]

What item?

[normal lake]

Ooh

[tame flax]

Strange Prism

theres literally only one mon that could be

Necrozma, who for the longest time we assumed was 1 slot

[white meadow]

i mean they could have put that just because

[tame flax]

you mean like how frog just put garbodor in?

[crude garden]

Well they can't put dawn wing and dusk mane if they don't add cosmog, so maybe only 2

[brisk vessel]

Dusk Mane and Dawn Wings would only take slots if the other Light Duo gets in

[tame flax]

maybe the strange prism is what lets it change form without them

[brisk vessel]

Otherwise it would probably just make it Default and Ultra

[crude garden]

Or it just has ultra necrozma

[tame flax]

but have you considered a form changing item, a la oricorio?

[brisk vessel]

It already has one

N-Solarizer and N-Lunarizer

[tame flax]

and do you think frog couldnt make a way to get those forms without lunala and solgaleo?

[dark prism]

Well the #fusion-faq hasn't changed and still says head gives primary type

[normal lake]

Looking at scream tail wait it can learn boomburst? Also I thought boom burst was a 2 turn move like hyper beam O.o

[tame flax]

tell that to all the play test mons

[dark prism]

So we'll just have to see

[brisk vessel]

I would assume not since we have Kyurem as an example

[dark prism]

Has someone bug reported it yet? Seems big if true

[tame flax]

was kyurem ever in the game without reshiram and zekrom?

[normal lake]

I've been playing Pokemon for so long and I guess I still don't know much

[brisk vessel]

No which is why I don't think we would get Dusk Mane or Dawn Wings

[dark prism]

Boomburst is a one turn move

[tame flax]

how do you know that if they werent, youd just use the dark stone and light stone to change its form?

[brisk vessel]

I don't but there's also the chance that they just don't do that

[tame flax]

keep in mind a lot of things we didnt consider at all happened yesterday, everything you knew before has been invalidated by these fuckers right here

[brisk vessel]

Tbf form changing as a whole was never considered until Kiwi forced Frogman to add it

[tame flax]

which is why i say "these fuckers right here"

[crude garden]

Still room for one decent sized gooms or a couple smaller gooms.

[civic lily]

Now there's even a chance they'll eventually update the game to allow adding a ton more pokemon and new locations

[tame flax]

its weird that all of those oricorio fusions are all gonna be dragon flying with the new system

[brisk vessel]

Melogoom

[crude garden]

Why are you jumping to the conclusion that's it's a shift to the way the game works and not a bug when they specifically said there would be bugs specifically with the new Pokemon?

[tame flax]

because that wouldnt be the only thing completely reworked

[crude garden]

I'd still err on the side of it being a bug, otherwise why would it only be the new Pokemon? Why bother putting all the old Pokemon into the new system with the old algorithm when they're going to completely change the algorithm for everything?

[dark prism]

It's odd that this change would not be announced in the post forg made earlier if it were an actual thing js

[crude garden]

Occam's razor says it's an unintended bug

[dark prism]

I would wait before making assumptions personally because we already know there are changes being made to the way fusions are generated, not to mention any time we ever had updates with new pokemon in the past it usually broke a lot of stuff

Hell something similar to this may have happened before. But yeah there will be lotsa bugs and we'll just have to see

[tame flax]

fair

[dark prism]

It would mess with a lot of people's teams that's for sure

[brisk vessel]

Kiwi said the fusions aren't hardcoded anymore so it's only 435 instead of 170000+

[dark prism]

That's a good change

[turbid nest]

"We're only letting 20 new pokemon in"

• So anyways this is a staff pick and this is a staff pick-

Praise the IF staff

[silver ginkgo]

There is probably a dev pick for each of the devs. how many devs are there?

[white meadow]

"20 or so"

[violet pawn]

at this rate we'll have 20 staff picks in addition to the 20 community picks

[white meadow]

one, the others are just sprite managers

[white meadow]

I mean thats why we have a playtest version aatm

[silver ginkgo]

I should have said staff

[dark prism]

Yeah I know I'm just saying because there are bugs right now and some might take them as features or actual changes

[silver ginkgo]

right now we have 6 poll winners and 6 staff picks right?

sableeye, tyrunt, tyrantrum, snorunt, glaile, frosslass

oricorio, trubbish, garbodor, venipede, whirlipede, scolipede

am i missing anyone?

[white meadow]

that's all

[crude garden]

I think a dev said there was one more Pokemon that wouldn't be part of the 20. Each contest winner gets to put in a Pokemon and a random contest winner choice will be added to the game

[violet pawn]

do you know where that was? I've seen people talk about this but haven't seen the message(s) myself

[crude garden]

Ooh geeze it was right in the middle of the chaos yesterday, maybe between 730 and 830pm est?

[violet pawn]

alr thanks

[crude garden]

#pif-hoenn-discussion message here it is

[violet pawn]

oh thanks dude, I was looking for it but gave up

no wonder I didn't find it since it wasn't a frogman message

[crude garden]

Np I just did a search in this chat for messages containing contest and found it.

[marsh lily]

She's popping off. Hitting the griddy, even.

[lusty oxide]

I hope the contest pick or random pick is bruxish

I love bru’ish fusions

[crude garden]

Contest pick is the random pick

[lusty oxide]

Oh ok I hope it’s bruxish

[crude garden]

I respect the grind, as I am also on that single Pokemon grind, so I'll be happy for you if the fish makes it.

Well for matpal

[lusty oxide]

Or audino if it doesn’t make it in from the vote

It’s very cute

[violet pawn]

or toxapex

[lusty oxide]

Too bad the votes are over all propaganda is pointless at this point

Except when it’s

[violet pawn]

did the poll close?

[lusty oxide]

Yeah

No more voting

[white meadow]

no more propaganda! (or not)

[lusty oxide]

[potent plume]

a world without propaganda

[violet pawn]

I'm pretty sure goodra will get in though, if you look at the oricorio heart votes like half of them are purple hearts and people probably voted assuming it was goodra line

[lusty oxide]

No more propaganda

[potent plume]

this twisted game needs to be reset

[lusty oxide]

Wdym?

[violet pawn]

we should totally make this into the political propaganda channel once all the pokemon are announced :DDD

[lusty oxide]

No it’s gonna disappear

[violet pawn]

yeah i know

it would be nice if there was a gallery of all the different propaganda posters though

[fresh salmon]

For now every Mon is going to appear in IF slowly

Since so far there have been the same amount of community and personal entries

[lusty oxide]

Honestly having a gallery for all the stuff made for this chat would be cool

[fresh salmon]

Sableye, Tyrantrum and Glalie/Froslass are community and Scolipede, Oricorio and Garbodor are personal

[lusty oxide]

The thing is oricorio was used to force frogman to make forms work

[white meadow]

meh closing vote just right after telling people that forms are multiple slots is kinda a tm06 move

[lusty oxide]

I like oricorio cos you can get dancer on Pokémon with much higher stats

[fresh salmon]

That's true, also Rotom and Giratina may come with all forms so

[violet pawn]

I wonder if the game will ever have ALL the pokemon. I could see it being the case in like 5 to 10 years, if frogman is willing to do it

[white meadow]

i would be fine with that if furfrou is excluded specifically 👍

[fresh salmon]

All gen 1-7 could be, but I don't think gen 8+ will get added

[spice sage]

Not really lol, Kiwi was just messing around in the announcement

I'm the one who insisted to add all the forms really

[lusty oxide]

Oh ok

Nice

[fresh salmon]

Well, Unown has 27 forms, and if Spinda is added

[spice sage]

Mostly because the forms are kinda Oricorio's entire gimmick. It would feel incomplete to only have 1/4

[lusty oxide]

Gotta make the billions of spinda forms if it gets in

[fresh salmon]

That's true, but it's the same gimmick Unown has lol

Except executed differently

[lusty oxide]

Yeah rotom and unown also have form change as a gimmick giratina feels less necessary

[fresh salmon]

Imagine having 99.999999999999% of the IF dex be spinda

[white meadow]

i would say that unown would be less necessary since it changes nothing statwise

[glass quail]

Please vote Malamar

[white meadow]

me when closed votes

[fresh salmon]

Same

[crude garden]

Maybe I'll do two

[violet pawn]

currently the game world is too small to have like 900 pokemon, so there would probably need to be at least one more region added before all the pokemon, which would be a LOT of work

[lusty oxide]

But what if someone’s favorite unown letter is one that isn’t in the game

[prime dust]

they already said the game will never have every mon in it

[white meadow]

wait what is the default letter anyway

[lusty oxide]

Idk lol

[violet pawn]

uuhh can't the forms be done with just alt sprites?

[crude garden]

E

[prime dust]

maybe...

[white meadow]

best letter so who cares about the others 🔥

[prime dust]

that's if someone wants to make those alts

[lusty oxide]

Alr forms are also important for meowstic

[violet pawn]

isn't the default unown form A though?

[prime dust]

that's less alt form than it is gender variation

[violet pawn]

H better

[lusty oxide]

They have a lot more differences than just their looks

[trail hull]

Also any gendered evolutions is removed in if so one would be alt sprite

[fresh salmon]

That's true, or the game could be otherwise overloaded with mechanics like dexnav, island scan, soaring, swarms, hidden grottoes, friend safari, max raids, tera raids, dynamax adventures

[prime dust]

ah yes, gardevoir and gallade don't exist

[trail hull]

Yes in this game female gallate exist also gardevoir could always be male in the main line game

[violet pawn]

oh yeah definitely

[fresh salmon]

So far there's only the pokeradar

[lusty oxide]

I hope not all of the new mons are exclusive to the pokeradar

[trail hull]

Me too

[fresh salmon]

Though I understand that having both max and tera raids is redundant, as well as friend safari being difficult to implement without online features and soaring being difficult to implement because of 3D effects

[lusty oxide]

I hate using the pokeradar

[spice sage]

1

[trail hull]

Lol

[fresh salmon]

[lusty oxide]

[violet pawn]

[trail hull]

[lusty oxide]

[white meadow]

⛓️🪓

[fresh salmon]

[lusty oxide]

[violet pawn]

🥗

[lusty oxide]

Salad?

[violet pawn]

🥗

[lusty oxide]

?????

[violet pawn]

🥗

[fresh salmon]

[lusty oxide]

[trail hull]

[white meadow]

Hope you see it but I wonderd
Pokemon like sawsbuck will they get the form treatment?

[clever atlas]

May I ask how will you handle Pokémon with different forms if they get voted in? (As a part of the 20)

[fresh salmon]

Sawsbuck would fall in the same category as Unown, where the forms don't change the mon's stats at all

[lusty oxide]

Anyway since the vote is over you can change your name back now

[violet pawn]

ohyeah

[fresh salmon]

Sure

[lusty oxide]

Nice

I never used my display name for propaganda

[trail hull]

Shame on you

[fresh salmon]

Propaganda rn is pointless

[lusty oxide]

Yeah

[violet pawn]

I wonder if I should change pfp too, don't really know to what though

[prime dust]

well there's two ways they can handle it, least going off what we've seen so far

• it could be an alt sprite of the base form
• it could just be a new dex entry entirely

[trail hull]

Yeah

[tame flax]

im in the same boat

[lusty oxide]

Stay as Slurpuff

[fresh salmon]

Even though I displayed ludicolo my pfp was still pawmot

[violet pawn]

my previous pfp was kinda bad so this is my main pfp right now too

[fresh salmon]

Even though I wouldn't like pawmot in if, since it's similar to Pikachu and Pawmo is a wasted slot

[tame flax]

revival blessing tho

[fresh salmon]

Well, that'd be the point for pawmot

[tame flax]

and the little grabby hands with the defribulators

[lusty oxide]

Pawmo is kind of a deadweight in the line

[violet pawn]

wait nvm you need nitro for server specific pfps 💀

[fresh salmon]

Pawmi should have evolved into pawmot directly

[lusty oxide]

I wish they leaned into the fighting type for the design more

[fresh salmon]

Pawmo is unnecessary, it's just desaturated pawmi standing on 2 legs

I mean, that applies to Poliwhirl as well, but since it's a kanto mon

[violet pawn]

i mean i couldn't have edited the server specific pfp even if I wanted to

[lusty oxide]

Yeah a lot of kanto mons are bad lol

[tame flax]

Muk is just bigger grimer

[spice sage]

They would still just count as 1, but there's no guarantee that all the forms will be added (for example I probably wouldn't add 18 individual dex entries for vivillion haha). I still consider Oricorio to be 1 Pokemon even though it's technically coded as 4

[lusty oxide]

Magneton is just magnemite but more

[fresh salmon]

Magneton is just 3 magnemite stuck together, Magnezone fixed the line though

[prime dust]

genius...

[white meadow]

"hey what is this golem thing called?" "yes"

[prime dust]

28 dex entries of nothing but Vivillion

[lusty oxide]

Could still be alts though

[prime dust]

that might be more of an instance for alt sprites

[lusty oxide]

We could even get custom patterns

[fresh salmon]

Though Oricorio's forms are distinct, same goes for Rotom's

[violet pawn]

golem honestly looks nothing like a golem

[trail hull]

Also what about the battle exclusive form would they be added ?

[fresh salmon]

Vivillon, Unown, Sawsbuck, Spinda, etc... it's the same stats

[lusty oxide]

You mean for xerneas?

[tame flax]

vivillon is funny, because an AI pokemon art generator makes pokemon based on an algorithm of existing pokemon, and because theres so many vivillon forms, a third of the time the AI generates a vivillon

[fresh salmon]

Yeah, the actual golem mon is golurk

[trail hull]

Xerneas , wishiwashi etc…

[clever atlas]

So something like the lycanroc line would most likely be 2 slots?

[lusty oxide]

Well for xerneas having the out of battle form is kinda pointless isn’t it?

It does matter for wishiwashi though

[tame flax]

im betting frog man hoped/hopes wishiwashi doesnt make the cutt because that sounds like a nightmare

[lusty oxide]

Yeah it does lol

[tame flax]

i voted it 0 just because of that sounds rough

i love wishiwashi but i wouldnt put that on anyone

[lusty oxide]

How does transform work in battle now?

[prime dust]

what do you mean?

[gusty shuttle]

I want Pidove

[lusty oxide]

I mean does the sprite change cos you could reuse some of the code for wishiwashi

I ain’t a programmer though

[gusty shuttle]

Pidove would be pretty simple to implement I think they should add Pidove

[prime dust]

I assume you mean ditto transform...yes the sprite changes to whatever mon you transform into

[fresh salmon]

Then you have basculin which would have red and blue stripes but not white stripe

Basculin (no Basculegion)

[trail hull]

I think they might just be a stat change like after a certain amount of health lost it star#ts lower

[tame flax]

or they might do a legit form change now thanks to kiwi

[lusty oxide]

Wishiwashi could work if you make school form an solo form seperate Dex entries and just have it transform between the two

[gusty shuttle]

Or they could just take the lazy rout and make it an evo

[fresh salmon]

Congratulations! your Wishiwashi evolved into Wishiwashi!

[prime dust]

we didn't say it was perfect

[gusty shuttle]

Wishiwashi smol evolved into Wishiwashi thicc

[fresh salmon]

Yeah

[prime dust]

but yeah, if wishi gets added in, the easiest route would likely just be what they did with ori

[gusty shuttle]

Wishiwashi evolved into Wishiwashis

[prime dust]

have there just be some sort of interaction with something to change forms'

[tame flax]

but then what about its ability?

[gusty shuttle]

Wishiwashi (it/it) evolved into Wishiwashi (they/them)

[fresh salmon]

Yeah lol

[alpine rune]

💀

[prisma urchin]

Yo when did Trubbish get announced too? Another freebie, we’ve got more staff picks than voted sprites and I love it

[tame flax]

it got kinda leaked in the playtest

[alpine rune]

I mean we already got stance change, so i think it would work just like it, alongside defeatist if archeops comse into the game

[clever atlas]

#announcements message

[prime dust]

yesterday evening

someone debug found him

[lusty oxide]

We got garbage

[prime dust]

mini forced the glorious hypnotoad to come out and say he added it in, but wanted it found more organically than that...but oh well

[tame flax]

Someone make a Slurpodor thats a mound of cream and cake

[lusty oxide]

Trubbish is a garbage pick tbh

[cerulean tundra]

🤯

[tame flax]

i can see potential

[lusty oxide]

It was a pun lol

I was joking

Trubbish is a pick

[trail hull]

Also someone found a finneon fusion

[lusty oxide]

Staff has really good taste in Pokémon

[white meadow]

Thats a old sprite tho

[tame flax]

https://tenor.com/view/kevinmcgarry-loveatfirstbark-lafb-sorry-what-gif-23125333

[white meadow]

Its a sprite to reference a pokemon we dont have in the game

[lusty oxide]

I mean there are vivillon sprites in the preview too

Doesn’t mean it’s gonna get in though

[clever atlas]

There is tyrantrum before tyrantrum

[white meadow]

And I remember that there was some Vivillion references too with Butterfree fusions

[clever atlas]

Ttar rampardos specifically

[tame flax]

so is no one talking about how another mon got leaked?

[lusty oxide]

I mean there was overworld sprites too

[tame flax]

sandyghast

thats a banger of a pick

[white meadow]

Oh cool @surreal chasm will be happy

[tame flax]

it might be another frog pick

[lusty oxide]

Random ping

[surreal chasm]

What am I looking at

[tame flax]

this

[oak ravine]

It's obviously super subjective, but I think the Garbodor line is the symbol of Pokémon design decadence, there's literally not a Pokémon I wanted less in the game

[white meadow]

Pallo got leaked

[oak ravine]

But to each, their own, I suppose

[tame flax]

bottom right

[clever atlas]

Yeah in happy we got pallosand
We need more special Ground types

[lusty oxide]

It’s still better than muk

[surreal chasm]

WHAT HOW

[tame flax]

look at my message thats how

[white meadow]

Bottom right

[surreal chasm]

Yeah I see it omg

[violet pawn]

oh nice

[surreal chasm]

Was it datamined from the demo?

[tame flax]

looks like it

[clever atlas]

Now you can request sprites of all of your sketches

[tame flax]

so thats palo, necrozma, garbo, and shaymin discovered so far

[white meadow]

When did they discover Shaymin?

[surreal chasm]

Request? I can sprite them myself lol

[lusty oxide]

Can we stop datamining it ruins the hype

[alpine rune]

Hello guys

[surreal chasm]

I can't believe Freddy Fazbear got leaked for Infinite Fusion dlc smh

[clever atlas]

Ok you can i forgot you're a spriter as well lol

[lusty oxide]

[white meadow]

Dont tell me you talk about that old double Leafeon

[oak ravine]

Nah, Muk's fine, it's one of the originals AND the toxic/nuclear waste themed fusions can be pretty cool

[alpine rune]

can you like dm me if there's an aurorus/meloetta leak there?

[tame flax]

no

[white meadow]

Problem is noone searches fossils

[tame flax]

just like how theres a strange prism that could represent necrozma, theres also a strange flower

[white meadow]

Can you show me?

[tame flax]

if i can find it

[alpine rune]

Its a sail fossil if youre wondering

[white meadow]

I know

[opaque ether]

Fingers crossed for Mightyena, Lycanroc, and Noivern lines.

[brisk vessel]

Truly

[white meadow]

You guys know the farm left to fuchsia
Imagine there would be a skiddo overworld sprite now😂

[gray shadow]

the prism stuff isnt finished so its not confirmed to be Necrozma

and I’ve seen nothing on Shaymin

[crude garden]

He's just a little kpop dude

[tame flax]

who else could be involved with prisms tho?

[alpine rune]

any resolution thats not 240p?

[silk narwhal]

@tame flax how are you getting access to those files
Please explain your process

[white meadow]

Now with a grafik we can read

[violet pawn]

there is a pinned message about the prisms on https://discord.com/channels/302153478556352513/1147644754146906174

[tame flax]

my process is looking at the playtest channel

[gray shadow]

Necrozma but it hasnt been confirmed yet so dont outright say it will be Necrozma or not

[silk narwhal]

Lmfao
So how do people do it

[gray shadow]

until someone finds Necrozma, dont say its 100% in the game

it could be Boldore for all we know

[white meadow]

The prisms arent in a cave so I dont think its boldore

[tame flax]

let me check something

[gray shadow]

at least 2 of them are

[silk narwhal]

No it couldn't be boldore lmao
Necrozma is literally the only pokemon that has anything to do with prisms

[white meadow]

Yeah but you wont collect Boldore

[gray shadow]

I think it would be funny if it was Boldore

[alpine rune]

I guess when you need a job done right, you just gotta do it yourself

[gray shadow]

like its obviously necrozma and im so happy about that but like

what if

[crude garden]

Now I need to do pirouette goomy

[white meadow]

Also Hypnotoad acted suspicious after Rick wonderd if its Necrozma

[tame flax]

i can tell where a few of those prisms are

[crude garden]

And hope they both fit on the goomaganda

[tame flax]

one is on the sea route to 1 island

[silk narwhal]

Yeah, i don't remember exactly what he said though

[gray shadow]

I think theres 1 in Mt. Moon, 1 in Rock Tunnel, and 1 in the Lake of Rage. Not sure where the last one could be though

[lusty oxide]

I feel like the mods need to pin that the votes are over

[tame flax]

oh yeah

also lumineon i guess, since someone found it in a randomizer

[gray shadow]

nope. Hypnotoad just said Its not in the Game

[tame flax]

nvm

[crude garden]

Oh you know what the strange prism could be? Deoxys form change maybe. He usually changed with those weird ground triangles, I could call those prisms theoretically

[gray shadow]

#hoenn-demo-discussion message

[thick kelp]

oh yeah prisms being ||necrozma|| is more than speculation at this point, ftr (this is the prism map)
the strange plant being for shaymin is speculation realm though, no evidence of that in files afaik

[gray shadow]

changes with Meteorites now

[crude garden]

Okie dokie

[silk narwhal]

Please tell me this is real holy shit

[tame flax]

would boldore be in the Ultra Metropolis?

[gray shadow]

1. Its Ultra Megalopolis not Metrolopolis
2. Sure

[thick kelp]

you can check it yourself if you have the playtest downloaded, .rxdata files can be opened in any text editor (they're messy but still fairly human-readable)

[white meadow]

Sadly Votes are over we could have updated the Propaganda to only Golisopod missing

[tame flax]

the doc says metropolis

[gray shadow]

then its wrong https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ultra_Megalopolis

[tame flax]

but its from the games files

[gray shadow]

Then whoever put it there spelt it wrong

[tame flax]

wanna tell frogman to spell check?

[silk narwhal]

Holy shit i was right, there is a special event

[gray shadow]

idk but Ultra Metrolopolis is just. wrong

[white meadow]

NGS FOR THE WIN WHOOOOOO

[gray shadow]

I’m a Gen 7 Nerd I would know

[tame flax]

or how about appreciating that one of the mons in your user name is in

[trail hull]

You have 2 out of 3 so not a total win yet

[gray shadow]

Yeah I am but its still wrong

[tame flax]

frogman is online, you can at him if its that important

[gray shadow]

Its not important its just annoying me

[white meadow]

Golisopod is a Pokemon I would wonder if it dont get in
And if not after the voteing update than in another one

And what about Gourgeist? It can give Pokemon the Halloween Themed Fusions, or it can involve Pumpkins and Jack-o'-lanterns. It has a heavy amount of Potential

[tame flax]

i see golisopod getting in, hes cool and will be even cooler without his ability

[tame flax]

theres no more polling, propaganda doesnt matter now

[white meadow]

First of all WDYM no more Polling?

[thorny ferry]

Democracy has officially died

[tame flax]

the results are set in stone, we just dont know what the stone says yet

[silk narwhal]

It's over
You can't vote anymore

[tame flax]

it concluded yesterday

[trail hull]

Lol

[white meadow]

voting close now

[jaunty pebble]

what was the shaymin leak?

[tame flax]

Strange Plant

unless that plant was just for oricorio

[gray shadow]

a glowing plant. thats all. nothing says shaymin

[thorny ferry]

carnivine

[silk narwhal]

Suspicious flower

[craggy lynx]

Wait how did you even figure this out?

[thick kelp]

if we're @ing frogman about metropolis/megalopolis typo do we also @ him about "Raboob" in the split-names script
(arguably even less important since it will only matter if the mon gets added later)

[white meadow]

Well I was asking nicely if people wanted to help without using Propaganda, because I wanted them to have Free Will to do what they wanted without any Visual Influence.

[tame flax]

i looked at the other channel

[gray shadow]

It doesnt even say flower it just says plant

[craggy lynx]

oh

[gray shadow]

it could easily be Shiinotic or somethin

[tame flax]

its almost like when you look over there you find when other people have dug stuff up

[tame flax]

why would they have a unique item?

[white meadow]

sus amoonguss

[white meadow]

Are Pumpkins considered a Plant?

[gray shadow]

why would Shaymin be glowing?

[tame flax]

theyre berries

[white meadow]

Sounds like shinotic ngl

[gray shadow]

and berries are plants

[gusty shuttle]

I want to give my Pokémons a pumpkin

[thorny ferry]

No, they are an instrument

[jaunty pebble]

im seeing alot of talk about dark there too, what with the prism and thebppant

[white meadow]

Also shaymins flower dont survive in darkness or get inactive thats why shaymin transforms back at night

[tame flax]

well if we want to be super technical, mushrooms arent plants

[gray shadow]

whats more likely to be connected to a strange glowing cave plant. a tiny flower hedgehog that thrives in the day or the eerie luminescent mushroom

[grand hull]

Shinotic and necrozma?

[white meadow]

Tell that to gamefreak

[tame flax]

mushrooms are a totally different branch of life

[cobalt nebula]

No more propaganda.

[white meadow]

Ik im a Gardener

[cobalt nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/genie-aladdin-free-freedom-released-gif-5220219

[tame flax]

does gamefreak ever call mushrooms plants?

[white meadow]

grass type moment

[gray shadow]

grass

[white meadow]

Look at the type of mushroom mons

[honest tartan]

they're all grass types soooo

[thorny ferry]

Propaganda posters are going to realise 8 days later

[tame flax]

i meant like in dex

[gray shadow]

all the mushroom pokemon and most of the mushroom moves are grass

[clever atlas]

Mushroom is Grass type, Grass type is plant

[tame flax]

in dex are they called plants

[silk narwhal]

Thank god

[last pecan]

nah, kartana is a grass type

[white meadow]

What happend

[thorny ferry]

Bruxish has one less enemy

[clever atlas]

Okay, usually

[silk narwhal]

Do you remember that finneon autogen? Yeah it's a bug

[gray shadow]

Paper is made from Trees

[last pecan]

and mushrooms are an exception

[thorny ferry]

Someone found a wooper/finneon, but it was just a bug