#gameplay-help

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spiral remnant
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alr i finished the whole quest in like 2 seconds

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thanks

shadow perch
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How's it going for dragons?

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Dragons den

worldly hollow
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defeat claire, enter dragons den, get gible

spiral remnant
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bruh why opening eggs takes so long

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what was the button to go faster

ocean nest
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q

spiral remnant
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epic

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should i fuse venipede n mankey?

stoic jewel
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I noticed in my latest playthrough (of the newest ver.), it says in the select menu that the game is in classic, however I set it to remixed. Will this be a problem, or is it just a quirk of the newest version?

amber yarrow
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how do you scrool throurgth your items in game

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what button is it?

stoic jewel
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Should be down arrow key in the bag!

amber yarrow
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how do you press it tho

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with mouce?

worldly hollow
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how to press buttons on a keyboard:

stoic jewel
amber yarrow
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whitch obe

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one*

stoic jewel
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these little fellas

ivory bramble
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What HM allows u to climb waterfalls

worldly hollow
amber yarrow
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ok

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on windowos

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cus it dont work

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?

stoic jewel
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Yes. It should work when in your bag. Press down the arrow key a few times, and there will be a blue outline around the item selected. It will scroll down the further down you go.

hollow lake
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How do I transfer save data from an old computer?

silk rose
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Quick question: can you go to Olivine and Cianwood now? And if not why tf are they on the map?

worldly hollow
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no

silk rose
worldly hollow
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because no one knows why theyre on the map, we can just guess .. either frogman just copy/paste the map and didnt edit it, or hes planning to add those cities, or whatever ...

ocean nest
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he can't add what got thanosed

ocean nest
ocean nest
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the red text is what each button does
the smaller boxes are the keys on a beyboard [or controller] that you press to do that thing

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so if one key doesn't work for what it should do, try another

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or rebind it as the text says

ivory bramble
worldly hollow
lunar elbow
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the incense that spawns every day at the daycare is random right?

ivory bramble
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Where do I find the gym leader for viridian

broken kestrel
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ok so what is the deal with falkner's gym? it just pushes me around seemingly at random (the only correlation ive noticed is that it happens after i hear the sound effect). how am i supposed to progress

lunar elbow
broken kestrel
fickle narwhal
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Hi where is the polygon quest?

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Porygon

lunar elbow
lunar elbow
broken kestrel
lunar elbow
broken kestrel
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ok

echo sedge
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is there a way to make money fast in the early game? im playing a randomizer runthrough so im trying to get more pokeballs and splicers

dim cloak
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how long do i need to sleep for mushrooms to reset in forest ?

lunar elbow
dim cloak
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so 24 hours ?

lunar elbow
echo sedge
lunar elbow
echo sedge
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im before brock so i dont have rock smash yet

lunar elbow
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then selling mushrooms is your best bet

dim cloak
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what are the lvl caps on hard mode

charred willow
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Looking for some help, I'm at the zapmalcuno fight and have been trying to use trick room. Once I set it up, my 56 speed pokemon (the one who cast it) successfully moved first, after it fainted I sent in my 86 speed pokemon who moved after zapmolcuno. The same happened with the following 44 speed pokemon. I know zapmolcuno's speed is over 149 as it outspeeds my 148 speed pokemon normally. What is happening here?? trick room wiki says nothing about the pokemon who cast it needing to be on the field. I've tried this three times and had the same result. really confused, any help welcome

high hawk
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what the difference between normal mode and hard mode? is it lvl spike? or new pokemon or smt?

ocean nest
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level spike mainly

fickle narwhal
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I've done bills porygon quest. There should be assistant where you can buy more boxspace no? Where should I find her?

worldly hollow
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nowhere, you cant buy more boxes

ocean nest
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if you are seeing data that says otherwise

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you either:

A) are looking at a fake website
B) looking at a mod

high hawk
silk rose
ocean nest
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not sure the 2 mods for this game that we no longer endorse have fake websites

ivory bramble
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How many ice Pokémon are in the game

ocean nest
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if you count individually

lunar elbow
ocean nest
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20 ice mons

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with only a few of those being in evo lines

ripe flax
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How to download

ocean nest
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?tag install

crisp hornetBOT
ocean nest
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click the blue text in the above message, follow guide for your device

plush echo
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Okay I'm kinda scared cuz I'm playing on mobile but

floral charmBOT
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Hey @plush echo! This game is developed ONLY for Windows. Joiplay is a workaround to get Android to work, but iOS will not work.

Check our Official Android guide HERE. If you didn't follow this guide, DELETE and UNINSTALL everything.

All Android bugs/workarounds are in the guide. If your issue isn't listed, there's no fix. No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

plush echo
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I haven't played the game in full yet

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And i have access to the debug menu

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Should that cause issues or nah?

ivory bramble
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What time shud I ring the bell

floral charmBOT
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Hey @ivory bramble! Are you having trouble with the Lavender Town puzzle and getting into the Hidden Tomb? The solution is to ||ring the bell in Lavender Town at 3:15 AM||!

hollow flume
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when does sunkern evolve

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Sunkern? It evolves with a Sun stone!

hollow flume
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where to find sun stone

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for a Sun Stone? You can buy them in Goldenrod! An NPC in Vermillion City also gives you one, and you can get one from the stone guru in Lavender during the day.

ocean nest
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nothing we can do about it

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but be warned, debug used too much, or incorrectly, can very easily break a save

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so be careful if you use it

plush echo
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Oh okay

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Thank you!

dim cloak
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how do i find the flower for the necter garden quest

worldly hollow
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on the other side of the forest

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as the quest text tells

dim cloak
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thx

hollow flume
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where to find eevee

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for a Eevee? You can find them in Celadon City and the Secret Garden! You also get one as a gift on the top floor of the Celadon Condominiums in Celadon.

lunar elbow
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Both sprites for Bruxish / Houndour are actually sprites for Bruxish / Smoochum. can someone post a report in #1052360360172199977 for me?

sacred lily
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We're is the path to olivine city and stuff? I don't find it

hollow flume
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where to find cut tm

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for Cut? The Cut HM is given to you by the captain of the S.S Anne! You can get an S.S Anne ticket from Bill at the end of Cerulean Cape, which is north of Cerulean. You'll then find the key to the Captain's cabin on the deck of the S.S Anne. You can also get its replacement item, the Shears, on the east path of Route 2 (only once you have the HM already). You can use Cut to access it from the west path of Route 2, or take Diglett's cave from Vermillion City to get to it!

sturdy pollen
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i know this need changin but what moves should i give it to match?

broken kestrel
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how to slow game speed

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also any advice for beating the surfer in a race aside from slowing game speed

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Pikachu? It evolves with a Thunder Stone!

hollow flume
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where to find thunder stone

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for a Thunder Stone? You can buy them in Celadon! You can also get one if you talk to the last NPC to the first part of route 9.

fickle narwhal
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Is it possible to make all npcs have lvl 100 pokemon whenever you beat the game? Cuz I did and kinda want a challenge lol

dim cloak
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in remix hard mode where do i find a ralts ?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @dim cloak! Are you looking for a Ralts? You can find them as an egg at the National Park (Post-Silph Co.)!

remote junco
dim cloak
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alr thx for the info

hollow flume
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when does abra evolve

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Abra? It evolves at level 16!

hollow flume
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when does kadabra evolve

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Kadabra? It evolves at level 40 or with a Linking Cord! No need to trade, just use it like you would an evolution stone.

hollow flume
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where to get linking cord

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for a Linking Cord? You get three of them from the quest guy after completing 15 quests!

placid nova
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why do i walk through walls with magic boots suddenly?

fickle narwhal
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If you use the no level mode do your pokemons become back the same level as they were if you reverse the setting?

ocean nest
ocean nest
placid nova
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it wasnt simply that, i found out steam has been messing stuff up with controller inputs

hasty lily
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Im trying to get to olivine but theres no path next to Ecruteak

placid nova
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solved it by exiting steam

visual flame
hasty lily
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oh alr

hollow flume
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when does mankey evolve

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Mankey? It evolves at level 28!

pale flicker
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I'm playing on mac and was wondering if there was a keybind for fastforwarding the game

pale flicker
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Thank you!

oak cape
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how does rockruff evolution work in this game ive tried asking the bot and aroundonline but im not finding any clear awnsers

floral charmBOT
oak cape
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thank you

night cobalt
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What should I fuse with my Ivysaur for Lt.Surge?

frozen hare
hollow flume
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how to get umbreon

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you looking for a Umbreon? You can only get that Pokémon by evolution! ask me "where to find [prevo name]" for more info.

hollow flume
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how to evolve eevee into umbreon

floral charmBOT
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Hey @hollow flume! Are you trying to evolve Eevee? It evolves with stones for all eeveelutions!
Vaporeon: Water stone.
Jolteon: Thunder stone.
Flareon: Fire stone.
Espeon: Sun stone.
Umbreon: Moon stone.
Leafeon: Leaf stone.
Glaceon: Ice stone.
Sylveon: Shiny stone.
You can ask me "where to find [name] stone" if you don't have it!

frozen hare
hollow flume
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sure

marble fractal
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how do I get out of goldenrod city?

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wheres the water can?

frozen hare
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you go south of goldenrod

marble fractal
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but I cant go that way since this guy is cutting down trees and I'm supposed to wait?

frozen hare
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then you havent done the e4 in kanto

marble fractal
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oh the where is the island gym leader? one with the burned mansion I cant find him

worldly hollow
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in the burned mansion

marble fractal
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jezz maybe I missed him

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thankyou

worldly hollow
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you most likely didnt find him cause hes in the basement

vale scaffold
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How to catch charmander

floral charmBOT
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Hey @vale scaffold! Are you looking for a Charmander? You can get one as rare overworld encounter in Viridian River! There's also an NPC that'll trade you a starter in Cerulean City if you've done a trade before then. Later in the game, you can get a starter in your player house in Pallet town.

fresh obsidian
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soory if this

remote junco
gray elbow
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Hey can some one please help me with safari zone temple?
I am trying to get to the end of it

loud python
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I beat Jasmine, she wont let me battle her again and she never gave me her badge but gave me the doll

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what do i do?

loud python
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the website

frozen hare
clear nymph
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Can you still use ditto to breed fused pokemon?

frozen hare
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you have fake files

loud python
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hmmm

frozen hare
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delete them and run anti virus, then redownload from here

paper juniper
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so i locked the secret garden by defeating brok and now im looking to catch eevees to get their evos for fusions. Do you know where to get enough of them?

clear nymph
frozen hare
paper juniper
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oh ok thanks

ivory bramble
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Who knows what time to ring the bell at lavender

floral charmBOT
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Hey @ivory bramble! Are you having trouble with the Lavender Town puzzle and getting into the Hidden Tomb? The solution is to ||ring the bell in Lavender Town at 3:15 AM||!

jovial oxide
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Is there a way to change hair color in an existing savefile or is it available only at the start of new game?

worldly hollow
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only at the start

jovial oxide
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okay thanks 🙂

primal moat
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if i have saved in front of genesect and keep reloading can it eventually be shiny or does it decide it earlier?

marble fractal
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how do I get to knot island?

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or just mt.embor to chase team rocket to get my eight badge

worldly hollow
primal moat
primal moat
worldly hollow
marble fractal
primal moat
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there is one yeah

marble fractal
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thankyou

primal moat
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there might be a video on youtube or image on the wiki to get through

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i had to use the wiki to get through a currents puzzle later

next garnet
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I'm stuck on the sewers water puzzle and I'm wondering if getting Surf would make it easier, and I found out I need to get to the Safari zone to get it. How do I get to the Safari Zone?

worldly hollow
next garnet
tribal snow
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When does Eevee learn a fairy type move it's level 34 and it hasn't learnt one yet

ocean nest
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check gen 7 learn pools

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but you don't need it to know a fairy move

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for evo

tribal snow
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Oh you don't?

clear nymph
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How does one aquire a silk scarf?

ocean nest
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most of the weird evo requirements got changed for this game

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if you are unsure just swing into #ask-a-bot and ask how to evolve a pokemon

floral charmBOT
ocean nest
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smacks bot

tribal snow
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Thank you

next garnet
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Finally got out of that sewers puzzle!

ivory bramble
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Yo how do static encounters work

next garnet
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Does anyone know where I can get a magnet stone?

floral charmBOT
ivory bramble
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What tool shares EXP to all your Pokémon at once

ocean nest
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xp all

wise fiber
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Is this normal?

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Never mind, I loaded the game and it fixed itself

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Its funny tho lol

alpine fog
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I need some help, I have the magic boots debugger on and when i try to manually add meloetta to the game it won't let me. what do i do?

ocean nest
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nothing

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anything past 465 hasn't been added into debug

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so that's more of a wait for Frog to fix it; if he can

worldly hollow
ocean nest
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nvmd war is correct

worldly hollow
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im willing to bet theyre on 6.0.5 at best

versed bough
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how do i get past the snorlax on route 12?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @versed bough! Are you looking for a Snorlax? You can find them on Route 12 and route 16 as overworld encounters! You will need the Pokéflute to wake them up. You can get it from Mr. Fuji at the top of Pokémon Tower. You can also find them on Route 23. You can also get that Pokémon by evolution! Ask me 'where to find [prevo name]' for more info.

alpine fog
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my apologies i figured out the problem it took a bit to load

broken kestrel
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wait so where is the 5th johto gym

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i just went from claire to pryce

worldly hollow
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on boon island

broken kestrel
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oh ok

gray elbow
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How do I get the TM in the clouds on mt moon??

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It says something about it being monday

floral charmBOT
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Hey @next garnet! Are you looking for a Electabuzz? You can find them in the Power Plant (B1-1 and B1-2)! You can also get that Pokémon by evolution! Ask me 'where to find [prevo name]' for more info.

next garnet
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When do I get to the Powerplant?

blissful bane
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How do I debug on the newest version? I’m a little confused

crisp hornetBOT
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You can enable Debug Mode by catching all 470 base Pokemon in a non-randomized file. After doing so, the Developer in Celadon will reward you with Magic Boots. For an additional reward you can ping a moderator to give you a cool dex completion role, proof screenshot required.

manic flower
gray elbow
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Please can someone help me!! How do I get the TM in the clouds on mt moon??
It says something about it being monday

manic flower
gray elbow
manic flower
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if you press menu you see the time and day

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read what the NPC said again

gray elbow
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It not there

manic flower
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bruh

worldly hollow
gray elbow
frozen hare
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just wait the hour

gray elbow
frozen hare
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aight then

manic flower
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goodluck

worldly hollow
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youre on monday 4:50am
wheres the logic to wait 1 entire week when you just have to wait a few seconds?

manic flower
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it would be already wednesday for them as we speak since time can't be paused there

next garnet
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How do I get the bike?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @next garnet! Are you looking for the Bike? You can get a free bike voucher from the Pokémon Fan Club in Vermillion!

worldly hollow
frozen hare
manic flower
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consider fast forward

frozen hare
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at 3x speed 1 day = 8 min

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and i dont think they were/are holding it down for 10x

winged wyvern
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What time does it need to be in order to progress in the quest 'For Whom the Bell Tolls"?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @winged wyvern! Are you having trouble with the Lavender Town puzzle and getting into the Hidden Tomb? The solution is to ||ring the bell in Lavender Town at 3:15 AM||!

next garnet
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I'm having trouble getting the bike. I went to talk too the old man in the Pokemon fan club in Vermillion and I'm still not getting it? Is there a reason that would be?

worldly hollow
frozen hare
worldly hollow
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you get a bike in cerulean bike shop

gray elbow
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who is this mon??

frozen hare
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its for the meloetta quest

next garnet
worldly hollow
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its an altaria/lucario ... probably

gray elbow
worldly hollow
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well, the altaria part was correct at least 😄

gray elbow
worldly hollow
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makes sense

gray elbow
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Flying/rock

worldly hollow
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altaria is dragon/flying
lycanroc is rock

gray elbow
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Makes more sense design wise

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But fustions are weird

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Wish we could caugte it

worldly hollow
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catch swablo, catch rockruff, evolve both

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and fuse

ivory bramble
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Does anyone know what to do here

frozen hare
worldly hollow
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exist?

ivory bramble
gray elbow
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A mytcal

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Wish it were a real mythical pokemon

frozen hare
worldly hollow
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assuming nintendo would hire actual people with a brain to think about pokemon designs

ivory bramble
frozen hare
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theres duskull in there

ivory bramble
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Im in front of the grave and clicking enter but nun happening

frozen hare
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there shouldve been a pokeball, thats the item

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and duskull is a wild encounter in there

ivory bramble
frozen hare
visual flame
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Or go to that well in johto

gray elbow
frozen hare
visual flame
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It fills like 34 spirits per day

worldly hollow
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36, but yeah

frozen hare
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oh aight

worn zodiac
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how do u turn on exp all when playing normal mode?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @worn zodiac! Are you looking for the Exp All? You can get Exp. All in the East Gate of Fushia from a a Professor Aide once you've fused at least 20 Pokémon!

ocean nest
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otherwise the built in xp all function is regulated to easy difficulty

chrome coyote
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What about fusions?

frozen hare
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or their ot trianer wont let you do it in ng+

chrome coyote
frozen hare
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their OT trainer is changed in ng+
so its not you

worn zodiac
frozen hare
worn zodiac
chrome coyote
frozen hare
worn zodiac
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okay thanks

lament dawn
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hey is there any otherway to download the game without the.bat file cause i dont trust it

frozen hare
frozen hare
lament dawn
ocean nest
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because the program isn't windows verified/authenticated it thinsk it is not safe

gray elbow
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Why are so many TM not available like facade in game??

frozen hare
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because there doesnt have to be a tm for everything

ocean nest
gray elbow
frozen hare
gray elbow
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If the show the tms in the wiki and stuff they should work on adding them to game

frozen hare
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the wiki doesnt dictate whats in the game

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in facts its the other way

winged wyvern
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How do I interact with the space ship a second time? It's the 2nd part of the First Contact quest.

blissful bane
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is there anyway to get get rare candies for a playthrough, my friend and i are doing a sould link and dont like how grindy it is

winged wyvern
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All it is doing is moving around.

frozen hare
winged wyvern
rough marsh
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i havent been playign for like 4 months. what have i me

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missed?

frozen hare
frozen hare
rough marsh
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ok, my b

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where is the best place to get cool pokemon fusions?

frozen hare
surreal imp
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where do i download it

frozen hare
surreal imp
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also is this the official server

frozen hare
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yes

surreal imp
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almost got malware from a download from a random website

frozen hare
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ya, most people do that

surreal imp
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is it possible to report websites

median garden
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I'm in a randomizer, and I seem to be getting the same 5 encounters despite it being on insane mode
Is this normal?

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And this is across half the game routes btw

surreal imp
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pokemoninfinitefusion .net sucks

frozen hare
frozen hare
surreal imp
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how do i launch it

frozen hare
surreal imp
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app

queen aspen
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where does the game currently end?

frozen hare
surreal imp
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also is InfiniteFusion .bat the right zip file

frozen hare
frozen hare
surreal imp
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ok do i run InfiniteFusionSetup .bat

frozen hare
crisp hornetBOT
gilded jetty
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are psudo legendaries counted in the legendary pool or do we have to go to the guy to reshufel the randomizer?

frozen hare
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pseudo's dont count

surreal imp
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🙏pls no malware

frozen hare
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if there was malware, then 488,170 people, including the creator, have gotten infected

surreal imp
gilded jetty
surreal imp
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what folder do i choose on where to install the game

frozen hare
frozen hare
surreal imp
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k

ocean nest
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once it is there, you can move it somewhere else if you so desire

source - me [have my infinite fusion on my E drive]

gray elbow
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I got the upgrade. How do I do money glitch now?

slate kestrel
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Where can you find destiny knot and the power items?

floral charmBOT
ocean nest
gray elbow
ocean nest
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talk to the lady behind the counter on the main floor, if you saved everyone, she mentions a discount
check her store [everything will be normal price]

back out of the store and her dialogue

gray elbow
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It the DNA rever thing. sold their for 100, but sells for 150 else where?

ocean nest
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go back in and buy as many dna reversers as you can [they should now be discounted]

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sell em at any mart

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besides the one you bought em from obviously

slate kestrel
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I couldn't find anything about the power items or destiny knot on the wiki. Help please

ocean nest
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if not listed in the item paste bins, or on the wiki; they either are unobtainable outside randomizer/debug, or they exist but no one knows where

slate kestrel
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it said trainer house, but apparently that was later removed from the game?

ocean nest
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yes

surreal imp
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what are the controlls

ocean nest
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doesn't exist anymore

ocean nest
slate kestrel
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That is so lame

ocean nest
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content gets added/removed all the time

slate kestrel
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Darn. I just wanted to breed some pokemon

surreal imp
frozen hare
slate kestrel
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Ty

frozen hare
chrome coyote
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How high a level should I be for the battle against gold?

surreal imp
frozen hare
chrome coyote
frozen hare
surreal imp
frozen hare
frozen hare
surreal imp
surreal imp
frozen hare
surreal imp
rigid hare
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super rod

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where to find super rod

floral charmBOT
cobalt grail
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Wheres a good icon to use for the steam library?

mild zealot
rigid hare
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thanks guys

cobalt grail
frozen hare
mild zealot
gray elbow
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Is it possable for a fossil pokemon to be revived with its HA?

frozen hare
sleek socket
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Is there an Exp share?

frozen hare
hot violet
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(easy mode sets exp all from the start, btw~)

safe grove
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Anybody else getting a lot of missing sprites? I'm playing the most recent version, and it wasn't doing this earlier today

blissful bane
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Does infinite fusion work on iOS?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @blissful bane! You cannot install this game on iPhone or iPad. This game is not a ROM Hack so Delta won't work and we are not planning to release an iOS version.

ivory bramble
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Is there anyway to distribute EXP from one Pokémon to the rest

ivory bramble
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Where can I gec that pls

mild zealot
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I forgot '^^

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Maybe you can find it on wiki

frozen hare
mild zealot
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Oh yeah I forget about bot lol

supple kraken
#

how to evolve haunter

floral charmBOT
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Hey @supple kraken! Are you trying to evolve Haunter? It evolves at level 40 or with a Linking Cord! No need to trade, just use it like you would an evolution stone.

supple kraken
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where to get linking cord

floral charmBOT
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Hey @supple kraken! Are you looking for a Linking Cord? You get three of them from the quest guy after completing 15 quests!

frozen hare
maiden knot
# frozen hare

thank you for this, i was just about to ask that then saw this image lol

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How do you change sprites?

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figured it out

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Are rematches a good way to level pokemon?

hearty topaz
#

after patch 6.1 is there no way to get bounce besides breeding?

iron ravine
#

Yeah no move tutor for it anymore

hearty topaz
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ok thx

iron ravine
maiden knot
#

how many times do you have to rematch a trainer for them to get maxed out (their pokemon stops leveling) or is their no limit

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*there

cobalt grail
#

Quick settings question, Fuse everything for pokemon randomizer, in game it says "Include fused Pokemon in the randomizer pool for wild Pokemon" but the wiki says Force ALL wild Pokemon to be fused. If I turn this on will I still find unfused pokemon?

worldly hollow
#

fuse everything does what it says, it fuses EVERYTHING

cobalt grail
#

okay one more, the global vs area for wild pokemon, Is the difference just I could get two routes with duplicates if I set area?

maiden knot
#

Kinda wish I chose easy... Do you get the exp shares early on? :think:

signal hull
#

How do I use cheat on mobile?

floral charmBOT
#

Hey @signal hull! This game is developed ONLY for Windows. Joiplay is a workaround to get Android to work, but iOS will not work.

Check our Official Android guide HERE. If you didn't follow this guide, DELETE and UNINSTALL everything.

All Android bugs/workarounds are in the guide. If your issue isn't listed, there's no fix. No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

sour snow
#

im doing it rn at victory road

full thicket
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Is the exp all worth getting, I bought an extra 2 exp share for grinding, now I'm grinding for Giovanni gym fight

winged steeple
manic cedar
#

How do you acquire the debug, and how do i change the speed of the game

worldly hollow
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?tag debug

crisp hornetBOT
#

You can enable Debug Mode by catching all 470 base Pokemon in a non-randomized file. After doing so, the Developer in Celadon will reward you with Magic Boots. For an additional reward you can ping a moderator to give you a cool dex completion role, proof screenshot required.

worldly hollow
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?tag speedup

crisp hornetBOT
manic cedar
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Thank you

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what if im on a randomizer for debug?

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that way its easier to heal

worldly hollow
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then youre doomed

manic cedar
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😦 darn

worldly hollow
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debug mode cant be aquired in randomizer

sour snow
#

the dex says some pkmn can learn some tms. I click the tm number and itll say something akin to "can be obtained by random tms".

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is there a spot for these randomized tms?

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or just in the overworld in general

worldly hollow
#

that means those TMs are only availabe in randomizer mode .. if your elucky

sour snow
#

ohh. wow

coarse igloo
#

My friend only has 30 boxes but i have 40. Is there a way to increase the boxes?

worldly hollow
coarse igloo
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No he plays on the newest

worldly hollow
#

then he updated and continue an older save while you started a new one

coarse igloo
#

So he cant increase it anymore?

worldly hollow
#

you cant increase boxes, no

sour snow
#

Is there a noted unorthodox way of getting rid of hidden abilities? Frisk is useless on this yanmega

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I assume my options are catch a new one, fuse and unfuse.

floral oak
#

i am unable to find the rockruff egg in secret forest

sour snow
#

It should literally be dead in the center of the forest.

floral oak
#

hold on let me screenshot

sour snow
#

Are you playing a updated version or

floral oak
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ver 4.9.2

sour snow
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I believe the current version is six. I think you're probably going to have to upgrade. I'm not an actual helper though

floral oak
#

how do i upgrade?

floral charmBOT
#

Hey @floral oak! Are you looking for a Upgrade? You can get an Upgrade as a reward for saving everyone in Silph Co. You can also buy Upgrades there afterwards if you missed out on the reward!

sour snow
#

For starters what are you playing on? Windows? Mobile?

floral charmBOT
#

Hey @sour snow! This game is developed ONLY for Windows. Joiplay is a workaround to get Android to work, but iOS will not work.

Check our Official Android guide HERE. If you didn't follow this guide, DELETE and UNINSTALL everything.

All Android bugs/workarounds are in the guide. If your issue isn't listed, there's no fix. No dedicated mobile version of IF will be developed in the future.

sour snow
#

In the infinite fusions folder there is a tab that says install or update. Because your version is so old I don't even know if you have it. Check inside your folder on your desktop

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Or computer, my bad

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Hold on I'll just show you on mine. Like I said I don't think you have it because I don't know anything about 4.9

karmic juniper
#

IS there a glitch with the Celadon Sewers? im using a Super Repel but still getting wild pokemon encounters

floral oak
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would i have to reinstall a new veirson

sour snow
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I'm pretty sure it's way easier than that but to be honest with you that's where my expertise dies out.

frozen hare
#

?tag update

crisp hornetBOT
#

If you are on version 5.3.1.2 and higher, you can go to your game folder (where Game.exe is) and double click INSTALL_OR_UPDATE to update to the latest version.

For older versions or if you are missing the file above, you can't update your files. You will need to install the game in a new folder using our guides (this doesn't delete your save): [HERE](#tech-support message)

floral oak
frozen hare
#

Oh aight

still forum
karmic juniper
#

ummm, idk i finished with the sewers a while ago

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Does that make the repel useless if its lower??

lucid elk
#

Is there a salon in game to change hair style? If so what town is it in?

lucid elk
#

Is there any way to change hairstyle yet? or not implemented?

frozen hare
#

only at the start of the save

lucid elk
#

Ah okay thank you

ivory bramble
#

When does this road open up

frozen hare
ivory bramble
frozen hare
karmic juniper
#

Where can I get a Dusk Stone?

floral charmBOT
#

Hey @karmic juniper! Are you looking for a Dusk Stone? You can buy them in Goldenrod! You can take the train there from Saffron after completing the Team Rocket event in Silph Co. as part of the main plot.

floral oak
#

Whys it say Jan 1st of 2000?

frozen hare
floral oak
#

ohhh

karmic juniper
#

Anyone have a map of Silph Co??? All these teleporters are sooo confusing

scenic wind
#

I'm curious will more pokemon be added?

unborn moon
#

Where's Eusine's house again 😭 Have completely forgotten

manic flower
ivory bramble
#

How do I progresss from here

manic flower
manic flower
ivory bramble
manic flower
#

you were to fall on a balcony of sorts and drop down onto the first level again where you can see stairs that goes to the basement

manic flower
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after that, all sliding doors can be opened

elder belfry
#

I downloaded the game yesterday and up to the second gym city went back to route 2 for exp share but the guy isn’t there any help pls

raven folio
#

where can i find the ExpertMode to start a new game?

ocean nest
ocean nest
raven folio
ocean nest
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i just said

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the help man

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under advanced

raven folio
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ahhhh ok thx

wispy comet
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knock knock

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say who's there

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say who's there

next garnet
#

Out of curiousity, am I able to go to the Powerplant after I beat Blaine?

remote junco
limber bridge
#

Why is the game totaly black when i start the game after the newest update?

remote junco
limber bridge
#

Okay

bright granite
#

It isn't possible to get to Mt.silver without all 16 badges, correct?

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@ocean nest

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<@&1069286137530679327>

shy mauve
#

correct

bright granite
#

After cinnibar

olive tundra
#

when you reach Cinnabar Island

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go in the ship building to start a cutscene

next garnet
#

Ok, thank you!

thorn lichen
#

do pokemon i unfuse count for dex? or do i need to manually level them up outside of the fusion?

frigid mauve
#

pokemon that are fused have a dex entry yes

frigid mauve
# thorn lichen do pokemon i unfuse count for dex? or do i need to manually level them up outsid...

for example: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oz0KzFd9pWCfXxcgb1JbgtGSwrxmKG2wSZEobyzFSZg/edit?gid=0#gid=0 everything that is checkmarked in this has a dex entry, even the fusions

bright granite
frigid mauve
#

or in your pc

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they don't have to be in your party to fuse

bright granite
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Just have room in your party

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Im not entirely sure if its fixed.

iron ravine
bright granite
#

It used to be bugged to where you would need to unfuse them in your party or something like that.

iron ravine
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the body used to only count, but it has been reported as fixed

ivory bramble
#

Who knows where the laboratory is

light glacier
#

guys i cant install the game

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can someone help me?

iron ravine
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did you use our guides?

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?tag guides

crisp hornetBOT
light glacier
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yes

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i tried on the app but it doesnt install it give an error and send me for a website where is one link for install manually i try to install and it dont download

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i click repair dawnload and it doesnt funct too

iron ravine
light glacier
#

oh ok ;C

tight gazelle
#

Hey is wonder guard broken because I'm using that are super effective against it but it keeps getting blocked

iron ravine
#

what pokemon are you going against and what move are you using?

clear ibex
#

Hi, im trying to download infinite fusion (iPhone 12) with the app delta but when i try to import it, it says that the file is invalid, can someone help me pls ?

floral charmBOT
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Hey @clear ibex! You cannot install this game on iPhone or iPad. This game is not a ROM Hack so Delta won't work and we are not planning to release an iOS version.

clear ibex
worldly hollow
clear ibex
#

😦

tight gazelle
worldly hollow
#

and then wonder it doesnt work?

bright granite
#

Just get a haxorous lmao

tight gazelle
worldly hollow
ivory bramble
#

Does anyone know where to find the laboratory that has pawniard

floral charmBOT
#

Hey @ivory bramble! Are you looking for a Pawniard? You can find them in the grass outside the Laboratory!

worldly hollow
ivory bramble
#

Thanks

lone stirrup
#

Viridian forest
Not sure if you've gotten an answer already, but I figured I'd try and help out

visual flame
shadow perch
#

Is getting deoxys different in the guide?

silk ice
flat oasis
#

is there any way to get all the pokemon? I want to mess around with the fusions and see which ones I like

twilit rivet
#

Anyone know how to fix cyberspace glitch where proygon wont move and blocks the exit?

ocean nest
ocean nest
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or battle them and then get them or their eggs as a result of the battle

flat oasis
ocean nest
#

oh

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?tag cheater

crisp hornetBOT
#

Per Discord Rules 23 and 24, we will not help you with ANY code changes and game files with modifications void any tech or game support from us.

Trying to edit code to enable cheats will NOT work. Magic boots are only available from in game rewards by catching the 470 Base Pokemon.

Reinstall your game by deleting the Data folder (this won't delete your save) and run INSTALL_OR_UPDATE.bat.

ocean nest
#

we do not assist with cheats

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you want them, earn them

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?tag debug

crisp hornetBOT
#

You can enable Debug Mode by catching all 470 base Pokemon in a non-randomized file. After doing so, the Developer in Celadon will reward you with Magic Boots. For an additional reward you can ping a moderator to give you a cool dex completion role, proof screenshot required.

visual flame
wise fiber
#

thw A button dont work

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i have that in

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z

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and it dont work

spring mesa
#

has oneone here played pokemon blaze black 2 before? i need help i keep getting an error on it called" xd3_invalid_input" I seached it up and people are saying its because i dont have a good rom Can someone help?

visual flame
abstract dove
abstract dove
#

you are more than likely not setting/interpreting them correctly.
Use the red text in big squares to figure out what something does, ignore the letters in big squares, set the letters in small squares

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so by default; confirm (which you might refer to as "A"), is space/enter/c

wispy quarry
#

does rapid spin increase speed in this game

abstract dove
#

no

broken kestrel
#

if i catch an aipom that already knows double hit then is there no way to evolve it

ocean nest
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level it once

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should trigger it

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the requirement is knowing the move; so as long as it knows the move and you level it once, the game ought to see that and go "evolve"

broken kestrel
#

ok cool

spice ginkgo
#

I'm doing the Mimikyu puzzle, and I think I'm doing something wrong. I interacted with the piano for a seemingly random period of time until I finally found the doll in the main chamber, but now the doll won't move to another room no matter what I do. If I go to different rooms to check, it hasn't moved. If I interact with the piano again, it still doesn't move. Nothing I do seems to work.

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Any help would be appreciated

ocean nest
#

i assume by main chamber you mean the room at the bottom where you come in

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that breaks the puzzle

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that needs to be the last room it pops into

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leave the basement, re-enter

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and hope RNGesus is kind

wispy quarry
#

so I'm in the goldenrod shopping centre basement fighting the lvl 50 cool dino wth do I do with it

spice ginkgo
#

Yeah, it started in the room at the bottom

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Is it all just random then?

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Pure RNG?

trim sundial
#

i accidentaly found mewtwo before the quest started and now oak keeps telling me about the mewtwo quest, and i need him to inspect the strange fruit, what do i do?

trim sundial
#

do i need to respawn mewtwo somehow?

wispy quarry
spice ginkgo
trim sundial
#

already did all he says is good luck

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is there any way to respawn the mewtwo so i can just kill it?

ocean nest
trim sundial
#

what if i release the mewtwo i own?

broken kestrel
#

is it still possible to complete the pokedex if ur not playing in modern mode

spice ginkgo
# ocean nest yes unfortunately

Yeesh. Gotcha. I just did it to where I found the doll in three rooms on the same run, but the third room was the room at the bottom and now it's stuck there. Guess I gotta restart it again.

ocean nest
#

you can complete it on remix [what modern is now called] and classic

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randomized will flag the save so you don't get debug

spice ginkgo
trim sundial
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oh lord, guess i got a bit to go then

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thanks

spice ginkgo
slate kestrel
#

Are pokemon reversers broken? I tried to use them to give one of my pokemon a desired ability, but then when I reversed it, it's abiliy changed.

worldly hollow
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because the entire ability mechanic changed

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if you fuse, you can pick between the 2 given abilities

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i.e. if you want to fuse azumarill with huge power it MUST have huge power as ability when you catch it

slate kestrel
#

I see.

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Thank you

ocean nest
#

so reversing will just give the other ability now

ruby tide
#

can i have some help? idk what all of this means

worldly hollow
#

?tag cheater

crisp hornetBOT
#

Per Discord Rules 23 and 24, we will not help you with ANY code changes and game files with modifications void any tech or game support from us.

Trying to edit code to enable cheats will NOT work. Magic boots are only available from in game rewards by catching the 470 Base Pokemon.

Reinstall your game by deleting the Data folder (this won't delete your save) and run INSTALL_OR_UPDATE.bat.

ruby tide
#

i did the install/update

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and this is what happened

ocean nest
#

no you didn't

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you tried to cheat, we know what that error means

#

do as the bot says

fallen quiver
#

What gym do i have to beat to use surf???

worldly hollow
ocean nest
#

not gym specific

fallen quiver
#

oh thanks

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guess i'll beat sabrina real quick

spice ginkgo
#

I think Mimikyu will be the death of me. I am now on 6 times that the doll has hit the bottom room as the third room its spawned into and it gets stuck/breaks each time. Insert Billy Mays, "There must be a better way!"

maiden knot
#

can you get 20 pokemon fusions before cerulean? Really want the exp all lol

iron ravine
maiden knot
fallen quiver
#

how do i unlock saffron's gym???

maiden knot
#

another day, another regret not choosing easy 😭

worldly hollow
fallen quiver
#

thanks

#

where do you get the key to the top room???

worldly hollow
#

F5

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in the path at the bottom

maiden knot
#

then again, i dont know when you get to fuschia

worldly hollow
#

fuchsia city is the 5th badge

ornate mountain
#

Wanted to switch the Ability for Porygon - Z Download --> Adaptility but it isnt working ... someone tip?

wispy quarry
#

what is the static encouter in the tv from saffron city

worldly hollow
#

rotom

spice temple
#

🤔 how do the Move Tutors work, backend-wise? Is it coded in what Pokémon can learn which moves, or can the dev open up the options?
(Want to request a feature, but want to know if it’s even possible first)

wispy quarry
#

what happened to the mankey paw guy?

worldly hollow
#

hes still there, but due to him being team rocket he scams you

iron ravine
#

that is more of an implementation question vs a suggestion. How he implements it if it is considered would be up to him

#

but just my 2 cents to not delay your suggestion

spice temple
iron ravine
#

move tutors are certain characters throughout the regions that can teach moves to your Pokémon they don't normally learn.

spice temple
#

Yeah. I dunno if there’s some Pokémon essentials thing that limits it
Since I saw there were limits for what TMs can be available

spice temple
worldly hollow
#

not really, only pokemon which can learn it by move tutor will learn it by move tutor

iron ravine
worldly hollow
#

im wrong again 😄

iron ravine
#

so if the Wide Guard Move Tutor is completely new and not something that was done before, he's have to go to each pokemon and add Wide Guard to which pokemon he wants it to learn it

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so far im just seeing wide guard under learn set moves or egg moves. none so far with it under the Move Tutor category

spice temple
iron ravine
#

correct 😅

spice temple
#

I’ll suggest it anyway (after work). Dev can decide what he wants XD

fallen quiver
#

how do you get to the top room off silph co. to fight Giovanni

mental pollen
#

Key on floor 5
Warp on floor 3

fallen quiver
#

thanks

zenith berry
#

Or you miss out on a Pokémon and an infinite money option

fallen quiver
#

thanks reading the list now

primal trench
#

Just double checking, 6.2.3 is the latest version atm?

primal trench
#

thank you!

solid obsidian
#

how does fusion work exactly?

#

like do i need to choose pokemons not fused yet?

keen sky
#

my model is glitched is there a way to fix it

solid obsidian
#

where can i find a list?

frozen hare
#

?tag pokedex

crisp hornetBOT
solid obsidian
#

no

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i meant making it

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like sprite

frozen hare
frozen hare
solid obsidian
#

i want to make a sprite of a fusion

frozen hare
crisp hornetBOT
frozen hare
#

read this

solid obsidian
#

no i know how to sprite in itself

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im more so asking about the avaibility of pokemons

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like is there a list of pokemons used already?

keen sky
frozen hare
solid obsidian
#

okay

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thank you

frozen hare
silk ice
#

Where do I show I got the Magic Shoes legitimately?

frozen hare
crisp hornetBOT
#

You can enable Debug Mode by catching all 470 base Pokemon in a non-randomized file. After doing so, the Developer in Celadon will reward you with Magic Boots. For an additional reward you can ping a moderator to give you a cool dex completion role, proof screenshot required.

keen sky
keen sky
silk ice
#

Should I just ping them here?

frozen hare
silk ice
#

The moderators. What channel should I show my proof of legitimate debug?

frozen hare
#

?tag proof

crisp hornetBOT
visual flame
#

What about for mobile

lime cypress
#

Hey guys i wanna Download Pokemon Infinitt Fusion for MY mobilephone can anybodys Help me thank you

crisp hornetBOT
frozen hare
#

use the mobile guide

lime cypress
#

What is that brother

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Can you explain

frozen hare
#

its the guide for how to download on mobile

lime cypress
#

But which emulator you need

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For Pokemon Infinit

frozen hare
lime cypress
#

??

frozen hare
#

only get the files from there

silk ice
frozen hare
#

thats not gonna work

silk ice
#

My trainer card and the scene are in the video.

frozen hare
#

thats not what it ask for

silk ice
#

I already made this and saved. What else am I supposed to do?

misty jewel
#

can someone help me with this i cant get to my save file

remote junco
frozen hare
crisp hornetBOT
misty jewel
frozen hare
remote junco
#

no you cant save a corrupted one

misty jewel
#

okay thanks

silk ice
remote junco
#

sounds like a skill_issue

verbal wyvern
#

ho can help me pls to instal the game (i am french)

frozen hare
silk ice
frozen hare
silk ice
#

The boring proof it is then...

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<@&306953740651462656>

remote junco
#

its not the boring its the doing it right vs doing it wrong

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if you think following the rules is boring this aint the server 4 u]

silk ice
#

What I did takes a little effort, but it's more interesting.

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I made a full video.

frozen hare
#

the pokedex doesnt prove anything, you couldve just cheated in the pokemons

silk ice
#

It also shows me going and recieving the magic boots.

misty jewel
#

yo guys werent there an hard mode in the game?

frozen hare
frozen hare
remote junco
#

also the we dont know if you are the one who took the video or if you just stole anothers vid

silk ice
#

Then it's even worse with a basic screenshot.

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The video shows the Trainer ID as well.

frozen hare
#

ok well doesnt matter, theres a set way to do it
end of story

tawdry basin
#

Is someone having this problem?

frozen hare
tawdry basin
#

Thx

reef lichen
still forum
ivory bramble
#

Yo where can I get a coin purse

frozen hare
iron ravine
# frozen hare who?

always interesting ppl that brag about how to cheat or suggesting ways to do. like yes there are many ways to do it. we never said there aren't ways to do it, but read the room or rules. we do very little cheat checking, just respect it lol

frozen hare
#

fr

merry hollow
#

Im stuck in ecruteak city cuz of some monk who dosent let me through cuz of some bell and idk how to get rid of him

merry hollow
remote junco
#

you did

frozen hare
#

you did

remote junco
#

you posted here and in general

frozen hare
#

you already asked in general

merry hollow
#

Uh huh ok thx

#

Soooo bout that old monk

worldly hollow
shadow perch
#

Shouldn't there be a few more corridors to the deoxys crystal?

mental pollen
indigo sail
#

Hey guys so I went to play Pokemon and the error message unable to open data/script.rxdata dose any one know what it means or how to fix it

indigo sail
#

I’m new can you tell me how to do that

frozen hare
#

take a screenshot and send it to that channel

shadow perch
indigo sail
#

Ok

shadow perch
#

On route twenty, this is the only place where you can use diving

frozen hare
shadow perch
#

?

mental pollen
shadow perch
#

There's only one cave on the right

mental pollen
#

Then you have the wrong one

spice temple
#

🤔 you sure you don’t already have it? Do you have the other two?

mental pollen
#

It's still there after you find it

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I know because I just found it in my original save

#

Well, it's not "there" but you can still tell there was something

shadow perch
#

.

spice temple
#

You’d be swimming horizontally to get to the sunken ship

spice temple
merry hollow
#

I have to enter a bell tower but sadly idk where to find it

#

I think they mean the burned building right?

visual flame
#

To get the golbat boots?

merry hollow
#

The one with fog gym

visual flame
merry hollow
#

Do they mean the burned tower with the bell tower?

#

Cuz i cant find any other tower in the town

visual flame
merry hollow
#

Hmm thx

visual flame
merry hollow
visual flame
mental pollen
# shadow perch

Huh. The update changed it for some reason, but the part is on the other side of that tunnel for me.
I think there's something wrong with the m0bile maps again.

weary moth
#

Hey I'm on gym 4 in expert mode and I've run into gym trainers whose mon have a higher level than my level cap. Am I missing something to raise the level cap before I take it on?

frozen hare
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they all follow classic normal

weary moth
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Ok so what am I missing then? Because I thought level caps were set by the gym leaders but I am running into trainers in the gym with higher level mon.

mental pollen
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If you're playing other modes, you're still bound to the classic mode levels

frozen hare
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youre level cap dont exist for the npc trainers

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these are yours, but in expert the npcs are higher

weary moth
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...my level cap seems to be 39.

frozen hare
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well these caps are set in the code

iron ravine
weary moth
iron ravine
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then no clue

frozen hare
weary moth
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Erica?

crystal grail
frozen hare
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aight, ya then idk

crystal grail
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oop

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i launched the preloaded and this is what i get

crystal grail
frozen hare
merry hollow
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How do i reach olivine city

frozen hare
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?tag preloaded

crisp hornetBOT
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Preloaded is only for computers that perform poorly or if you want to play 100% offline. Otherwise, open Game.exe and the game will open without crashing.
Preloaded doesn't work out of the box. You need to set it up using either of the two guides below:

  1. Preloaded Guide using our New App Installer (best if you have stable internet): Guide
  2. Manual Preloaded Guide using a zip file (best for those with slow/unstable internet): Guide
frozen hare
crystal grail
merry hollow
crystal grail
frozen hare
iron ravine
merry hollow
iron ravine
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not sure they will actually be put in game, so not sure why they are there tbh

merry hollow
iron ravine
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there is but i dont think im allow to show

merry hollow
iron ravine
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sucks for you 😅

merry hollow
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Whats the point of the battle factory

broken kestrel
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where can i find a list of all the new gym leader types in remix mode

frozen hare
frozen hare
manic flower
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to buy rarecandies and evo items?

broken kestrel
merry hollow
frozen hare
merry hollow
frozen hare
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yup

merry hollow
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Ngl thats kinda awsome

autumn robin
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question if I wanted to do a shiny only playthrough then how would I make that possible or more easier?

crisp hornetBOT
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You can enable Debug Mode by catching all 470 base Pokemon in a non-randomized file. After doing so, the Developer in Celadon will reward you with Magic Boots. For an additional reward you can ping a moderator to give you a cool dex completion role, proof screenshot required.

zenith berry
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Unless you really want to tough out the 1/4096 odds in which case, good luck

autumn robin
zenith berry
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Shiny Charm lowers odds but that’s a postgame thing

autumn robin
zenith berry
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We cannot endorse cheating

autumn robin
autumn robin
zenith berry
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Good luck 🫡

merry hollow
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Wait u can use the debug thingy to catch shinys easier?

mental pollen
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Well you can give youself shinies (which will be marked) and give yourself the shiny charm early (which will not be marked)

ivory bramble
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The safari zone is such a scam

bright granite
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lol

spice cliff
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hey it wont let me play\

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ive tried all the loaders

gilded jetty
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so magic boots dont cary over into New game plus?

spice cliff
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and the preloaded works until the end of the gengar nidorino animation

frozen hare
gilded jetty
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ahh so its a switch type thing

vocal nova
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I just got necrozma, is it impossible to change ultra necrozmas sprite?

mental pollen
vocal nova
mental pollen
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?tag alts

crisp hornetBOT
vocal nova
# mental pollen ?tag alts

But I can't find his alternate form in my Pokedex is the thing because he changes right back after the fight

frozen hare
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most Ultra fusions dont have alts, since it only seen for a short time in battle

vocal nova
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I could be wrong, but according to the infinite dex online Ultra necrozma has a bunch, what I did was fused Necrozma with Necrozma, and there is a couple of sprites for the alternate form, it's fine though thanks

fallen quiver