oomf is there a classifier for cubes
#gisi gisi — toki kili pi toki pona tan namako Kolisin
chilly urchin
atomic halo
its kind of pispis coded
remote bear
atomic halo
khối (cube, geometrically), viên (small kiwen)
pills and pebbles and such are viên
small candy too
remote bear
how i look with the word for tree in my government name
chilly urchin
khối (cube, geometrically), viên (small kiwen)
thank youuuuu
atomic halo
wait.. but wood sili allegations [akira gif]
chilly urchin
eating my viên gỗ
atomic halo
if you truly think about it a tree is just sili grass no thats weird
eating her viên gỗ...
remote bear
khối (cube, geometrically), viên (small kiwen)
viên 丸 interesting
wikt telling me viên used for bricks I dont believe it
atomic halo
it is! viên gạch
bricks are small compared to house
also its a rock which gives it extra viên
chilly urchin
bricks are small compared to house
gisipilled
remote bear
can gạch not be khối
atomic halo
a big rock would be a hòn or tảng
nnn.. khối gạch is acceptable but maybe in another dialect
remote bear
how i look collecting shitty dialectal speech in my tiếng Em journey
atomic halo
tbhhh
chilly urchin
Oh Kisi btw since u used "em" u can never use friendly pronouns with Ka'i he told me
atomic halo
'uge 'i gisi ka sesli sesli 'ispi si gamu ka kusi 'ulun
yeah sorry kisi youre locked into age pronouns forever now
remote bear
Oh Kisi btw since u used "em" u can never use friendly pronouns with Ka'i he tol...
defriendzoned
acquaintancezoned mayhaps
atomic halo
siblingzoned
ah yeah i was gonna say the other day but like being locked into status pronouns doesn't have to be like. distant because the words are derived from family words
it's like language-sanctioned found family
atomic halo
is it different devices anu seme
atomic halo
sona....
hnn but yeah im still kind of feeling nepa'u just tree and that's it
girls love trees you guys ...
azure gulch
girls love trees you guys ...
its true my jpn name consists of two (2) (II) (10bin) trees
azure gulch
Tree as house
sesli erasure anu seme /
azure gulch
sesli building nepa'u home distinction ¿
atomic halo
there can't be a home without someone that home belongs to
sesli 'uge - the me-associated location - my house
chilly urchin
Urrrrgghh my parking loooottttt
atomic halo
my real estate in california tbh
azure gulch
my vacuum chamber tbh
atomic halo
is the tree-home thread from tree being wood or tree housing woodland creatures or buildings being tall like trees or what
chilly urchin
Anyway yeah sesli can probably stay home but I'm the little devil on ur shoulder
chilly urchin
is the tree-home thread from tree being wood or tree housing woodland creatures ...
The latter
Every animal word can live in a tree
azure gulch
ka ganse nepa'u Height ????????
atomic halo
ciertooo
chilly urchin
jeijt....
azure gulch
Every animal word can live in a tree
real actually
atomic halo
what is the thing that separates a nepa'u from a sesli though
a house is just a sesli with borders around where the sesli ends
it's still essentially a location that's set apart as a Thing
azure gulch
nepa'u for selo from bark anu seme (no)
chilly urchin
what is the thing that separates a nepa'u from a sesli though
Symbolic house vs home or something idk
azure gulch
im
atomic halo
hm.
no nevermind not really
but what if...? no. what if..? no.
a home is a sesli mama tawa mi what if a tree is a mama
a tree bears fruit too
the cons of this is that like. looks at las'e
it could split caretaker/protector side of mama, and leave the ancestry side to las'e
maybe?
trees are mama in a lot of little miscellaneous ways
besides bearing fruit, they also offer shade to other animals and smaller plants
i dunno lots of weird thoughts
because im also wondering about like. the frequency of gisi gisi words to have double meanings
because theres only a few of those in toki pona right
telo, kiwen, noka, loje, etc just kind of Mean what they Mean and the other meanings are established by the speaker
it can be a unique feature of gisi gisi because i do like it but it might also sometimes make us feel like we Have to give everything double meanings
hn? (caxa)
tree biggest cultural associations seem to be wood and rods
the ones i screenshotted were on the more fascinating side
tree and council in the same word is so evil
azure gulch
trees are mama in a lot of little miscellaneous ways
tree as mama is actually very nice
layman genealogy is often represented in tree graphs anyways
it does make sense
atomic halo
but the las'eeeee 🥺
atomic halo
if you truly think about it a tree is just a branch of the sioil
nepa'u/ligin merger absolutely needs the palisa meaning though like its so obvious itd leave an ominous gaping hole if it didnt
azure gulch
i think
nepa'u ligin merger is the way
ngl the nepa'u bias is kicking in hard rn i love nepa'u
azure gulch
so cute
atomic halo
now we need to dig into the silen/nepa'u overlap before we reinvent palisa/linja
atomic halo
silen could be hard though.. look at bridges
its just soooo hard that indeed the majority of silens are curvy or bendable and the majority of nepa'us are certainly hard
azure gulch
silen being a connection between two or more points vs nepa'u not necessarily anu smememememmememe
atomic halo
items on sticks are a funny ambiguous case
on one hand the stick is functioning as the silen for you to maneuver the object, but on the other hand the stick is also acting as a limb extender
azure gulch
all nepa'u can be silen but not all silen can be nepa'u rrrggggggffrffdv
atomic halo
can you guys believe we have 48 main dict words btw (besides ganse, gamu and megan still in playground)
thats so few words.... crazy how nature do dat
atomic halo
'ulun pagkan 'i 'ulun las'e 'uge si 'upune: gisi ka sesli nugun 'ispi si ganse las'e
gisi sigka'i ka sesli sesli las'e si sili ka kaka 'a'e ka kipa sesli 'ispi
gisi sigka'i si ganse pa'ula
kipa 'a'e si pispis kipa
comment: not using 'ispi in ni: sentences is nice
you can also just do it in regular toki pona but i like that this offers some more flexibility because a part of speech can be left empty, leaving you to expect the speaker to elaborate in a later sentence
a lot of the time if i dont have the : ill mistake the ni in a sentence to be referring to something Earlier rather than Later so this is swag
remote junco
🦨
atomic halo
🦨 la mofeta
remote junco
sí es un zorrillo
azure gulch
https://discord.com/channels/301377942062366741/1187029495203504168/123631106615...
exactly
atomic halo
oh my god
azure gulch
like
remote junco
the new reaction emoji, “🦨”
atomic halo
namako Kolisin es muy zorrilla
atomic halo
TBH
remote junco
ganse is sa if it were good
atomic halo
kolisin how are you feeling about nepa'u "limb, branch, rod, tree"
asking you specifically because youre the resident palisa/linja merger
azure gulch
silen
remote junco
or roots
atomic halo
silen
azure gulch
anu sm
azure gulch
at the end everything silens back to silen
atomic halo
remote junco
when you say branch and tree my brain thinks of river deltas
or even more metaphorically, choices and options
azure gulch
silen 'i gisi gisi si gamu
remote junco
I think I accidentally cooked up a new word
azure gulch
anu content word in gisi2 confromed????
atomic halo
luka/noka/ken merger??!?!?
remote junco
anu content word in gisi2 confromed????
basically!!
atomic halo
funniest combination of things ever
if you really think about it choices are just like hands
"ON THE OTHER HAND"
THIS SUCKS
azure gulch
gisi2 be like "on the one tree"
atomic halo
nepa'u - tree, choice, possibility
ligin - limb, side
g?
remote junco
what is ligin and kalu
azure gulch
ligin for poka is veyr inbereditnh
atomic halo
ah kalu is our keles revision that we never told you about
remote junco
zamn
atomic halo
kisi was saying that for kales/keles its better to edit the latter
azure gulch
we might be taking over teehee (sorry)
atomic halo
because kales's etymology Has k while keles's is t
so we changed it to kalu from hawaiian kalo
remote junco
b b but kales is a guttural sound which is more on the glottal side
atomic halo
i dont know these words hold on i need to look it up
azure gulch
'ales kalu
remote junco
it’s yet another instance of the world’s sexiest sound, x[X]
strong tartanBOT
it’s yet another instance of the world’s sexiest sound, x[X]
[χ]
atomic halo
oh it is?? i thought it was just [k]
remote junco
ya
remote junco
generally any post-velar sound should assimilate into ‘
atomic halo
'ales kalu
true 'ales kalu could be funny tbh
remote junco
kalu like ka lu
atomic halo
TRUEE
azure gulch
t r. ue
atomic halo
tila tuki tula PULA
okay guys kales/'ales and keles/kalu cast your combinations of votes
remote junco
kalu like ka lu
kalu si kipa ka lu nesku ka ka g si pes kalu
atomic halo
ill be fine with either keles/kalu if doing 'ales
remote junco
personally I like ‘ales/kalu
I know we were kind of giggling about it but I think it’s actually not half bad
atomic halo
slayyy
azure gulch
queen
remote junco
to be fair ma ni mani
pali sama and palisa ma
atomic halo
menu kanesu
remote junco
among many others
atomic halo
trueee
remote junco
although for like mani and ma ni I often stress ni more than ma
atomic halo
nepa'u - tree, choice, possibility
ligin - limb, side
g?
though tbh if were splitting ligin back i wanna bring back all the funny tree associations from before for our consideration
ill be fine with tree > branch > ken though
azure gulch
ligin for poka is very interesting (reprise)
atomic halo
fascinating...
atomic halo
ligin for poka is very interesting (reprise)
it would be funny to see what actually happens
i just kind of said that because "if you think about it your arm ison.your side
remote junco
for multisyllabic soundalikes they’re usually easy to differentiate via stress
but when your counterpart is just monosyllabic words it gets a little tricky
atomic halo
'kalu > ka 'lu is a natural stress difference too were saved
remote junco
yeah!!
remote junco
kalu si kipa ka lu nesku ka ka g si pes kalu
atomic halo
first gisi gisi voice message 
azure gulch
kalu si kipa ka lu nesku ka ka 🤔 si pes kalu
remote junco
tbhhh
atomic halo
tbhhh
remote junco
≈ if roots are naught for the benefit of others, what is a root?
atomic halo
a a i was reading it as "if roots disappeared for the benefit of others"
remote junco
that works too
naught can be a way to translate kipa it’s such a silly yet potentially useful word in English
because it’s like forming a negative with only semantic context
atomic halo
nepa'u nepa'u ka sesli sesli - the location has a lot of trees; the location has a lot of options -- i would say anu is in a weird spot here because silen
remote junco
what has happened to silen
atomic halo
nothing Changed really just that silen also describes mycelium and river deltas
like tree > branch > option kind of uh
makes an analogy between Options and Branching Paths? but silen already covers paths
atomic halo
the ghost of tree=mute kind of coming back for us here because itd be so funny if tree>branch was just Split/Multiply and it was a tu/mute merger kind of thing
remote junco
whoa… tu tuki tiki
atomic halo
TU TUKI TIKI !!
going back to other tree secondary meaning suggestions though we had uhh
tree = home because it houses woodland creatures, which i bent in the direction of tree = mama(caretaker) because they also provide shade and bear fruit
then i went on wiktionary and found in like One (1) language trees were also the same word as medicine, and in another one tree was Leader?
tree as leader is fascinating why did they do that...
remote junco
well often people held important meetings under or near a big tree
I guess just because it’s an easy landmark?
I’ve been playing with pronouncing <u> more like x[U]
strong tartanBOT
I’ve been playing with pronouncing <u> more like x[U]
[ʊ]
remote junco
throw in some advanced tongue root distinctions as well because why not
atomic halo
my english ass cannot pronounce that without a coda oh no
remote junco
doesn’t Vietnamese have this or no, I forgot
remote junco
throw in some advanced tongue root distinctions as well because why not
x[U A] have the root of the tongue farther back in the mouth, while x[i {] have it farther forward
strong tartanBOT
x[U A] have the root of the tongue farther back in the mouth, while x[i {] have ...
[ʊ ɑ]
[i æ]
remote junco
I also toyed with it when I was saying nugun out loud
I was like “hm x[@u] seems kind of pesky to hear”
strong tartanBOT
I was like “hm x[@u] seems kind of pesky to hear”
[əu]
atomic halo
voice message tonite? 🥺
remote junco
there the velar nasal is a bit easier to pick out
although the length of whatever [nu.un] is should be easy enough to pick out from knowing the language
nugun si ka nesku nūn
atomic halo
<Ơ> JUMPSCARE?!
remote junco
me when long schwa
atomic halo
i cant visualize my tongue enough to know where its different but i say it differently from schwa
remote junco
me when the centralized vowels sound all the same (it’s almost like they’re centralized into one area)
atomic halo
actually i think i just pronounce schwa weird HAHA hold on
when the central vowel has variation
i think its. back???? maybe???
atomic halo
is my schwa correct
remote junco
don’t worry differentiating strut and schwa is a common woe of anglophones
remote junco
is my schwa correct
yes
atomic halo
ooh the strut has a name.. fancy
remote junco
well I can understand you but English has a low bar for intelligibility
no wonder it’s a popular language outside of colonialism
atomic halo
tbhh
remote junco
like you can just kind of fuck around and people will be like yeah I heard loud and clear
atomic halo
atomic halo
might be my dialect rays i dont get why the wikipedia vietnamese phonology page says ơ and â are both schwa its truly fucked up
atomic halo
yeah like no theyre not (para mi) !!! i say ơ like a whole other thing !!!
the guy on IPA vowel chart with audio says it like ơ which is even worse
remote junco
it’s probably just a southern dialect recording tbh
your northerner tongue makes them unique
atomic halo
now that i think about it i do hear the ơ said differently in the southern accent
hm. pronouncing /u/ like [ɨ]
it sounds closer to u than i for me but that might be because of my orthography curse
azure gulch
kussy
atomic halo
TRUEE
azure gulch
'amigis kussy paka
wind compass
gisi stalin
remote junco
gisi ‘Askalin
wind compass
'askalin (furry stalin)
atomic halo
FIR REAL
azure gulch
nepa'u pispis,,,
chilly urchin
JBJBHGSVGHSF PISPISSSSS !!!!!!!!!!!
atomic halo
PISPISSSS
atomic halo
oh so gisi sigka'i
chilly urchin
ok imback
azure gulch
gisigkai ka las'e 'askalis Nunaku ggg
atomic halo
vietnamese infection
chilly urchin
what if we emphatic particles
but more
atomic halo
NO ES DE VIETNAM?!
chilly urchin
No todo es de Vietnam 
azure gulch
khong biet tieng Tay Ban Nha
atomic halo
TRUEE
azure gulch
(no diacritics cux im lazy)
chilly urchin
I was just thinking about how like some words are not necessarily particles
But have evolved to act like so
azure gulch
oh like so like "like" in english
azure gulch
mm
remote junco
like is neat
remote junco
it’s been bleached into -ly before
chilly urchin
But sopmetimes they are kind of particles
When they're not fillers
"That's, like, so fetch"
remote junco
what if we emphatic particles
m n g s
chilly urchin
It doesn't mean shit here, it just intensifies
I kno
We have dose
But like I'm thinking of non particled particles
remote junco
I see
so like filler words like you were mentioning
“uh” and “um” don’t have much semantic meaning with themselves
they are like animal communication
chilly urchin
Yeah those are just filler
remote junco
“like” on the other hand is more dynamic and syntactic
remote junco
“like” is like the “thing” of prepositions
chilly urchin
I was specifically thinking of this kind of particles first
Like "denn" and "ja"
where they're derived from "then" and "yes"
remote junco
“like” is like the “thing” of prepositions
I mean this in the sense of it generalizing, “thing” is a judicial court
it’s interesting how a lot of Western European languages derive their generic nouns from judicial terms
cosa is from causa, so like cause, reason, etc.
chilly urchin
judicial term here being
remote junco
things most appropriate for a court
chilly urchin
like literally of law
remote junco
nnn more like a jury deciding things
chilly urchin
oh okay
remote junco
basically trying to decide based on topics and points that are present in the case
that’s more of what I mean
whence “thing”, “cosa” etc.
chilly urchin
remote junco
but lemme read up on modal particles now that I’m done yapping on what I meant
well. I have one more generic noun etymon to mention
Northern Ireland English “yoke”
chilly urchin
the yunk (yapping skunk)
remote junco
mostly used for any tool or implement
chilly urchin
pronounced [joŋk]
remote junco
well somewhere between that and just any ol thing
wicked hedge
g si ||wait how'd i say happen||
chilly urchin
pispis?
remote junco
what is happening
chilly urchin
g si pispis
azure gulch
maybe just "g si" works? (im also stupid)
remote junco
it’s just existence but for events
wicked hedge
pispis li ken
remote junco
an event happens and a thing exists
azure gulch
nnn
remote junco
but an event exists and a thing happens is slightly odd
chilly urchin
cuz when u say what is jhappening u usually expectr a rundown of the "pispis" stuff
remote junco
but an event exists and a thing happens is slightly odd
although I think less formal English is getting more loose with this
azure gulch
g si gisi
chilly urchin
g si g
remote junco
g pes si pagkan
azure gulch
gsig,,,
chilly urchin
why pes
remote junco
the subject is unknown and is wanted to be known
azure gulch
asking abt the subject instead of the action i gu
chilly urchin
right but like
remote junco
idk, you tell me
chilly urchin
why is pes after g
chilly urchin
?
remote junco
the question morphology is mostly with taking your particle, giving it an empty phrase, and preceding the particle with g
and often pes has to appear just for consistency
chilly urchin
I didn't know that the particle succeeded g
remote junco
g si pes ‘ispi ‘i pukis
g pes ‘i pukis si kipa
g ‘i pes ‘ispi si kipa
it’s mostly because questions switch to topic-first rather than SOV
and in the context of a sentence, the topic is the thing being questioned
chilly urchin
mhm
atomic halo
yeah g is sentence prefix/suffix (como de vietnam
really funny imagine pes si g?
what exists, what is what
pes 'i si g? - what is anything
opal basinBOT
remote junco
this could also be an interesting read for you all
wicked hedge
oh aizuchi those are cool
remote junco
No way Japanese made adhd official
they made “so I visited my friend” memes polite
chilly urchin
TRUEEE
remote junco
like literally repeating parts of someone’s sentence is basically just normal
atomic halo
"so i visited my friend" "ahh so bro visited his friend! ic ic..."
remote junco
since it’s about acknowledging someone speaking
remote junco
"so i visited my friend" "ahh so bro visited his friend! ic ic..."
LITERALLY
no wonder the guy saying “bro visited his friend” still looks happy after saying it
he was simply engaging in aizuchi
chilly urchin
this, too, is aizuchi
remote junco
bdbsjjcnd
chilly urchin
music call and response polite coded
atomic halo
'upune replaced with 'esuki if we ever need to shave spanish etyms super hard tbh
i do like how 'upune sounds though its like utala
chilly urchin
I like upune because it makes me think of hitting a drum
atomic halo
tbhhhh
chilly urchin
like it's not as harsh as a velar unvoiced
and the 'upu structure is very like
I'm Striking this
atomic halo
it's one of those really low war drums
atomic halo
gisi gisi the language of ideophones
remote junco
I like the sound of ‘upune
azure gulch
https://sona.pona.la/wiki/w:Aizuchi
learning japanese has made me so accustomed to this that i get headaches from the amt of times i nod my head and mumble "mm"
tmi
gisi2 mumbling "pispis" as aizuti /musi
azure gulch
i guess youre right
a tumaduku/tumazuku situation maybe
ive always typed aizuti bcz it outputs the same anyways; maybe i shld fix that
wispy tendonBOT
im so leme
wispy tendonBOT
kemu si 'alapa Kasmusus.. ka kipa lu g? - m. - gisi kemu si leme salin g? n... 'ulun 'uge si ka sesli 'uge 'ispi. namunen kemu si las'e.
a maybe i should write this into a .txt file?
nn... no its fine
menu kanesu las'e sili sili. kanesu ka paka sesli 'ispi 'i kalu si namunen. namunen ka ka menu Kenpasa ka las'e kepa si las'e.
menu kanesu si 'ulun lu ka gisi kanesu ka ka 'a'e si gisi gisi ka sesli menu 'ulun pispis. 'a'e si sili lu. si kepus ka nesku namunen [kiki]
a, some form of paka couldve also been nice for ||explosion||
which btw im translating from this
gisi 'ispi 'i 'uge si leme leme
atomic halo
need to stew the pispis real/important merger in my mind
what is important.. how does it relate to being real ...
importance in this sense could be about it having a tangible impact on things around it
though there's probably other importants that im thinking about
like. could important mean valuable
mani/important merger?
azure gulch
but is mani a concept that can also be considered important in terms of the philosophy of this lang
atomic halo
important as noteworthy? would this put it in 'ispi? or are we going for a "everything that exists is worthy of looking at. checkmate atheists
atomic halo
but is mani a concept that can also be considered important in terms of the phil...
true....
lu might suffice for most purposes
azure gulch
i think thinking back to my very premature conception of pispis
there was a discussion that nunaku brought up
that the concept of existence and reality in and itself is important
la the connection
because you're here. they're here. you're establishing connections and communicating and collaborating with each other
in terms of life that's pretty important
atomic halo
that sort of makes me think on the slightly further out definition of 'ulun as perspective
how im imagining it is that when something is pispis then it's important because it exists in Your network of connections and can impact everything in that system
and that kind of has the same imagery as 'ulun meaning the purview of everything you perceive
azure gulch
that sort of makes me think on the slightly further out definition of 'ulun as p...
reminds me i had a shower thought where silen 'ulun can now mean "thought process", "skill tree", "brainwaves" and "hair"
atomic halo
different levels of 'ulun make things different levels of pispis, so you could say you appreciate something that's pretty unappreciated as maybe like. 'a'e si pispis kipa ka 'ulun menu, si pispis ka 'ulun 'uge, where the double meaning of important and real is a little funny here
atomic halo
reminds me i had a shower thought where silen 'ulun can now mean "thought proces...
TRUEEE im always doing these
atomic halo
different levels of 'ulun make things different levels of pispis, so you could s...
ah yeah we also say it in english sometimes when we go "it's real... to me....❤️"
the colloquial meaning of real for importance is very funny i should look into the origin of that sometime
it's usually said as such when discussing statements, which are as valuable as they are true and wise and sage
cackling
prowess at sports son or wooing potential partners daughter
forgot "really" is also used as an intensifier in some amount of languages
fascinating.
flat wharf
ni li pona LON
atomic halo
FOR REALLL
azure gulch
pispis pispis
flat wharf
kinda works in toki pona as well
atomic halo
this has a real benefit
azure gulch
'ispi si lu pispis,,,
atomic halo
TBHH
menu si pispis kanesu - the person has a high existence - the person is the most important / the person is 4 dimensional
lament ingot
'ispi si pispis?
atomic halo
kepa magi - vague trend, still life arrangement, monotonous repetition
'ISPI SI PISPISSS
flat wharf
could /x/ be an allophone of /s/
chilly urchin
hrrrmmm could it
flat wharf
kind of like how /k/ could vary from /t~k/
chilly urchin
I feel like k would bne more /x/ right
no
nvm my dumbass
ones fricative the other's plosive their love could never be allowed
flat wharf
BAHAHA
azure gulch
ones fricative the other's plosive their love could never be allowed
affricates:
(forbidden love)
azure gulch
HSBHJJKDSHUDJKKNDK
flat wharf
/pixpix/
azure gulch
they end up ending themselves ☹️
chilly urchin
kidpix...
atomic halo
gagxe
chilly urchin
Anyway yeah I think /x/ could work even if it's on the other side of the nouth
they're similar enough
azure gulch
'uge 'i silen 'ulun ka ganse nepa'u si gamu
[ɦỹˈŋ͡mə ɦʌ̆ xɤˈtɬə̃ ɦyˈɾỹ qɔ̆ ŋɔ̃ˈxə ɲəpɸɔˈɦy xʌ̆ ŋɔ̃ˈɱə]
(/musi)
wicked hedge
could /x/ be an allophone of /s/
generally in natlangs /x/ tends to be more allophonic with /f/
azure gulch
doesnt have a mic
wicked hedge
sibilant/non-sibilant distinction
azure gulch
i just mashed ab unch of stupid ideas I probably cant pronounce it either
flat wharf
generally in natlangs /x/ tends to be more allophonic with /f/
/f~s~x/ /silly
flat wharf
sibilant/non-sibilant distinction
ah makes sense
wicked hedge
'ifpi fi pifpif
chilly urchin
french
wicked hedge
a
atomic halo
fran/cais!
azure gulch
fun say
atomic halo
which btw im translating from [this](<https://www.tumblr.com/geckobone/726130077...
i should do the rest of this sometime
it's good for the sili gisi
chilly urchin
tbh.....
wicked hedge
wait what actually is sili
i've been reading it as silly the entire time i've been involved in this thread
remote junco
fermentation basically
that’s sort of the archetype but it’s also like decay and age
it comes from globse toki pona “tili”
wicked hedge
cool
chilly urchin
it's any process that takes time
wicked hedge
it comes from globse toki pona “tili”
(cheese right)
remote junco
ya
chilly urchin
but in "sili gisi" it's like yeah we're letting it ferment
wicked hedge
atomic halo
explosion is hard to convey it's such a specific process
wind compass
puma
from english boom
atomic halo
TRUEEE
atomic halo
thatsso funny to imagine we have like all these awesome nature words and there's puma - explosion
wind compass
lmfyes
atomic halo
Mob's kabuma counter
for LON
atomic halo
paka sigka'i - scatter
paka [kiki] - dangerous movement, impact?
nugun 'a'e si kipa si paka sigka'i kiki - their body ceased and scattered dangerously
atomic halo
puma could be our pakala (thoughts) (thoughts) (thoughts)
pakala... rubs mente
wicked hedge
puma is a good sounding word
atomic halo
'ukipuma
atomic halo
pakala would exist kind of funnily when we have namunen
kepus too
doing set theory math on it rn
azure gulch
pakala/kiki merger(???)(or rather overlap maybe????)
atomic halo
ah true yeah i was thinking that from before
chilly urchin
pakala -> namunen -> kepa
atomic halo
hence my suggestion for kiki/monsuta merger
chilly urchin
pulling up with the ？
azure gulch
pukis 'i 'askalis si puma - the lizard Explodes the goat ☹️
atomic halo
i should start doing this
chilly urchin
im thinking about explosions in nature
azure gulch
pulling up with the ？
keeb management 0 💔
azure gulch
im thinking about explosions in nature
nuclear fission+fusion
atomic halo
kusi gisi namunen kemu si kepa kipa
chilly urchin
a sneeze is an explosion
azure gulch
arent there plants who reproduce by epxloding ?
i like how i used "who" inthat sentenc,
atomic halo
im thinking about explosions in nature
that one tree whose pods Explode and send its wretched spiky seeds flying around to immediately kill anything in the vicinity dead
chilly urchin
oh the spikies on tree bark
azure gulch
RIhght that was wataht i was tlaking abt
atomic halo
its so funny why did they make the tree do that
azure gulch
why not :(
atomic halo
lightning is comparable to an explosion but it's really more just. big scary damage in general
azure gulch
lightning can be puma,
azure gulch
lightning si paka puma 'i sagke kusi si las'e
chilly urchin
lon.....
azure gulch
g????
chilly urchin
i mean pisisnpsis
azure gulch
pifpif,,,
chilly urchin
piefpief
atomic halo
'ispi si pispis
chilly urchin
'ispi si pispis is such a neurodiveregency nightmare
atomic halo
we should be like jSepika and start appending it to the end of sentences
chilly urchin
lord
azure gulch
gisi2 punctuation
atomic halo
i could fw puma
though admittedly i still have a soft spot for kiki danger because guyss thorns are sharp to stave people off
azure gulch
my new drag name kiki danger
atomic halo
YEAH IT IS
azure gulch
archnemesis of kim possible
atomic halo
obsessed
chilly urchin
gGGOD
atomic halo
paka puma - dangerous movement - woke left
chilly urchin
kemu si woke
azure gulch
'uke
atomic halo
TRUEE
paka paka now that i think about it
power/force probably doesn't have to be in another word because we have a lot of flavors of it
so puma can be just the danger bits
atomic halo
....power ？？？
wrt this
azure gulch
paka paka now that i think about it
atomic halo
YEAH
azure gulch
wan'an, makapaka :)
azure gulch
maybe i should translate this video into gisi2
azure gulch
[crying](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdbPEbdjQnU)
kemu 'i 'askalis [nasa] si 'ulun [oko]
kemu 'i 'ispi si leme n: "g si pes 'a'e?"
'a'e 'i kalu [mute] si gamu ka ka nesku ka leme lu si ka sesli 'ulun 'a'e
menu 'ulun lu 'i 'ispi si gisi: "'a'e si 'askalis makapaka"
makapaka 'i 'akamaka si mikamakamu ka ka makapaka 'i 'apa'aka si 'ika'aka'u
'amukamu 'i 'akapan si 'i'a'u ka ka makapaka 'i 'akamaka si mikamakamu
'ispi si lu m!
ka 'ispi 'askalis makapaka pes kemu si magi lu :)
azure gulch
HSJDDJKNBJKFJNNDN
th original text said something like uhhhh
"This creatures eats a lot of radishes(??), and as a result has too much dopamine clogged in its brain"
okay its called Maca root not radish
atomic halo
i read "the creature eats a lot of dirt so it's now aware of everything that brings joy"
azure gulch
tbf thats pretty close to correct
atomic halo
tbhh
azure gulch
ken la sina kepeken nimi Paka ??
nnn
"kemu 'i nesku 'ispi si paka ka sesli 'uge"
anu seme
(sama "sina tawa e ijo ni lon mi")
flat wharf
'uge i kusi ka paka kemu si paka
mi pana e ilo tawa sina
nimi "ka paka X" li ken sama nimi Tawa pi toki pona anu seme
remote junco
sama
n
it’s more of a direction/allative rather than a “I give this thing to you” or “I want to achieve this goal”
flat wharf
"kemu 'i nesku 'ispi si paka ka sesli 'uge"
a nimi Ka o lon monsi anu sinpin
ni li sama ala sama: "kemu 'i nesku 'ispi ka sesli 'uge si paka"
flat wharf
it’s more of a direction/allative rather than a “I give this thing to you” or “I...
sona
remote junco
it’s more of a direction/allative rather than a “I give this thing to you” or “I...
sona mi la kon ante ni li awen wile nimi ona
mi mama ala e nimi lon tenpo poka
taso jan ante li mama
atomic halo
nimi ni li ken toki e nasin
ilo mi li pana e toki mi tawa sina ka silen kon
"ijo ka silen nasin" li ken wan, taso mi pilin pona tawa "ijo ka silen ijo" kin
ilo kute mi li ka silen ilo lipu mi. ni la ilo lipu li ken pana e kalama tawa ilo kute
flat wharf
aaa sona
atomic halo
toki pana la, mi ken toki e ni:
'uge 'i sesli kemu si nesku
"mi ijo e [location] sina"
anu
'uge 'i nesku si sesli kemu
"mi [location] sina e ijo"
anu seme
toki ni li nasa lili a a
pana mute li ken lon
mi pana sona la mi ken toki e
'uge 'i 'ulun kemu si sigka'i ka 'ispi nesku
"mi suli e sona sina lon ijo"
flat wharf
a wawa
remote junco
I don’t think that the gisi gisi sona pona article will be a useful document anymore
I’ll probably have to write a more complete grammarbook somehow
wind compass
o pona e that one spreadsheet thing perhaps
remote junco
lon
lament ingot
could kin be sigka'i
remote junco
it could be!
i always felt like a distinction between namako and kin was kind of silly
lament ingot
yea i've noticed an uptick in my namako usage recently
and realized some of these usages could maybe have been kin
and thought 'what if namako kin merger'
remote junco
YEAH
remote junco
yea i've noticed an uptick in my namako usage recently
🥰
flat wharf
(silly) if namako and kin are the same, and according to pu, kin/a and namako/sin are the same, then a/sin/namako/kin merger
wind compass
omgyes
final frost
mi wile namako e ni - pretty please with sprinkles on top
wicked hedge
(silly) if namako and kin are the same, and according to pu, kin/a and namako/si...
not even tuki tiki has this
final frost
(ki tiki...etc)
flat wharf
kalama:
m /p~m~n~b~w/
s /t~l~s~d~ɾ/
k /k~x/
a /a~ə~e/
u /i~ɨ~u~o/
wind compass
lmyes
maybe /e/ should be with a
flat wharf
mi ante
wind compass
ah gg
balmy solstice
y /a~e~i~u~o~ɑ~ɚ/
wind compass
true
remote junco
this is gisi gisi not tuki tiki tu smh!!
wind compass
guki giki,,,
remote junco
I saw the mu and fox lele
wind compass
also wowies the bot is so random now
"lelelele": got reacted
words containing g: absolutely fine
balmy solstice
o pana e zorro lili tawa ilo penpo
remote junco
lon
atomic halo
mi pona e spreadsheet
wind compass
poggie
wicked hedge
salin.. (definitely didn't look up every single one of those words)
azure gulch
n
atomic halo
'uge si leme magi si leme salin s
g pes 'i kemu si leme salin
azure gulch
g pes 'i kemu si leme salin
nugun 'uge pes sagke 'uge si salin si kipa
'uge si leme ka nesku kepus
atomic halo
added CONTEXT ka ka to the sentence structure
should maybe drop a bit about repetition but im not sure how to phrase it
azure gulch
g pes 'i si lu
kipa
ka 'uge pes si kepus
azure gulch
should maybe drop a bit about repetition but im not sure how to phrase it
maybe reduplication for plurality anu emphasis maybe maybe
usuk
kusi 'i 'uge si pagkan kipa g??????
qua qhbd rrr ccvYyyyyy
nasa
atomic halo
tfw the tool doesnt turn you lush and fresh like the morning dew
azure gulch
fr im feeling so fucking sili rn maybe
atomic halo
tbhhh
azure gulch
may or may not be fucking ard with glyphs rn
atomic halo
fruit hair and sickly skin pride flag
azure gulch
may or may not be fucking ard with glyphs rn
struggling to not make ke a 井 shape
it just makes sense. I dont want it to make sense
wind compass
nesku [suwi] 'askalis
omgyes
atomic halo
Kisi chinese struggle tweets
wind compass
struggling to not make ke a 井 shape
make a 井 shape but make it so whenever you write it you have to play tic tac toe in it
azure gulch
Kisi chinese struggle tweets
someone asked me a question in chinese today and i "har?"ed so many times i think they might have thought im deaf (crying) (i might be)
azure gulch
make a 井 shape but make it so whenever you write it you have to play tic tac toe...
may or may not be true
when i first attempted glyph i did in fact make it tic tac toe
wind compass
lmarealreal
atomic halo
make a 井 shape but make it so whenever you write it you have to play tic tac toe...
'uge si ke ka sesli namunen Kepa
atomic halo
sesli ke - flat surface, board
it may look like this makes ke less quirky but in my defense imagine calling a table a "location of board games with pieces and/or tokens"
guy who has only played ke seeing a flat surface
azure gulch
ke for lipu/supa
atomic halo
KE! FOR! LIPU! SUPA!
azure gulch
las'e glyph killing me i haveno idea what to put
remote junco
egg
azure gulch
maybe im too stupid
azure gulch
egg
the idea of having an oval and a circle be different glyphs is not fascinating to me
atomic halo
i once fucked around and made a seed shape
oval but the line comes out into a sprout
azure gulch
also is ligin/nepa'u frfr yet or hm maybe still
atomic halo
ligin is officially exportable nepa'u i think is kind of like it Has one meaning that imo is sufficient already were just seeing if adding another one to it would be cute
azure gulch
i just reinvented pimeja #innovation
azure gulch
ligin is officially exportable nepa'u i think is kind of like it Has one meaning...
nnn lu
azure gulch
ive put little eyes on everything that has to do with living things or movements
and i put eyes on kipa to form lus
now its Ö
atomic halo
YEAHHHH
wind compass
people who complain about blue hair and pronouns when they see me (im a language nerd who thinks blue is a cool color)
next up: purple hair and adjectives
balmy solstice
purple is awesome
wind compass
frfr
atomic halo
sigka'i 'askalis pagkan pes gisi
azure gulch
sigka'i magi pes menu Gay
azure gulch
hm.
azure gulch
menu kanesu las'e sili sili. kanesu ka paka sesli 'ispi 'i kalu si namunen. namu...
original text
wind compass
omg nice
I was like "wow did i really forget all my sitelen pona" and then I realzed I was in the gising channel
azure gulch
hjdkshfjsdjkf
wind compass
is the ... a character or just a placeholder
wispy tendonBOT
finally. the gisi Kisi
azure gulch
so i decided to use an ellipsis for Fun
wind compass
its the character for ka
ah
azure gulch
initially it was a 厂 shape but then it looked to similar to si so ichanged it
wind compass
finally. the gisi Kisi
omg true,,,
wind compass
initially it was a 厂 shape but then it looked to similar to si so ichanged it
no more long division
wispy tendonBOT
woah.. just like in japanese
azure gulch
(also yes i made an abugida system. for yucks)
azure gulch
woah.. just like in japanese
true ,,,
wispy tendonBOT
i like this variant i think. follows the idea floating around of namunen gisi being softer
i am a certified geometric writing enjoyer(s) though so for personal use it's either or
like fonts...
azure gulch
yeah it can be a font vs handwriting kinda thing
like chinese
oh i just realised i forgot i add two dots to gisi's glyph (X -> ·X·)
oops
wispy tendonBOT
·X· like two birds kissing
wispy tendonBOT
true...
azure gulch
final frost
loving the quantity of lil eyes
atomic halo
i look like this
azure gulch
it looks a bit too much like pipi but also s + salin so :(((
i dont want pukis to be associated with salin
atomic halo
use myyy pukis [bats eyelashes]
atomic halo
atomic halo
handwritten pukis is like a little dog
azure gulch
(i still dont know which handwritten form i prefer for pa'ula or if i even prefer pa'ula in this shape)
azure gulch
handwritten pukis is like a little dog
true,,,, trrue,,,,,,
wicked hedge
incorrect image. reupload
these look like
oracle bone script on the top and then like cursive/handwritten hanzi on the bottom
azure gulch
these look like
oracle bone script on the top and then like cursive/handwritten ...
that was the vibe yee :>
final frost
if they are distinctive yet similar enough to be clearly the same word i think that will be very cool
azure gulch
yee a key feature of the script is just taking other words and sticking eyes or lines on em
the character for 'ulun (·Λ·) is derived from namunen (Λ)
wicked hedge
that was the vibe yee :>
cool
final frost
i have looked the bone script up and i am deeply in love with the animal glyphs
azure gulch
the bone script in general is rlly cute
i did take some inspiration from related scripts
the words lu and salin are both inspired by tangut characters
remote junco
'pu.kæ
wispy tendonBOT
'PU.KAE!!!
azure gulch
tampalpuke
wispy tendonBOT
for experimental ka-words i am finding it difficult to not interpret it as either 1. a verb, basically making a relative clause or 2. a pi, making it so X ka A Y = X pi (A pi Y)
not relative clause what sthe word...
wait yeah relative clause
azure gulch
pi namako
remote junco
lon…
wispy tendonBOT
this is very nice to look at
soweli Kisi ↩️
azure gulch
thankies !!!
wispy tendonBOT
if you require a fontographer, i will pali e ilo tawa toki ni
azure gulch
if you require a fontographer, i will pali e ilo tawa toki ni
uuu pona
o ni a 🙏
wispy tendonBOT
nanpa wan la mi o kama sona e toki gisi gisi a a
remote junco
pispis
azure gulch
'ulun lu m
wispy tendonBOT
is there a way to find stuff in discord threads or is this application just extremely bad
i would love to catch up on the resources
remote junco
pins have good resources
wispy tendonBOT
pins,,, mi lukin mi lukin
oh yeah i would definitely say those are a "setting". ilo Siko li awen pona
smoky forge
pins in threads are so annoying to get to on mobile for some reason
kin la
I saw the nemune dictionary above the gisi wiki page and peeked a bit
and akani is uncannily similar to my kon sin of nimi san lol
anyways I'll also lukin e lipu cause I actually dk what this whole thing is about
azure gulch
gisi gisi m. 'a'e si sigka'i
wispy tendonBOT
q. how does one glottal stop as the first sound of a word
wispy tendonBOT
gotcha
remote junco
q. how does one glottal stop as the first sound of a word
same way you do it in the middle of the word
don’t ask me how it works as a coda though I couldn’t tell you
flat wharf
that was ma'
in a lot of english dialects the only difference between can and can’t is a glottal stop coda after the n
so it definitely exists
atomic halo
you should pronounce a devoiced schwa after the glot actually
wind compass
wher has the gising gone,,,
azure gulch
gisi gisi more like kipa kipa
wind compass
kipi kapa tupi tapa
balmy solstice
:gisisigka'i:
remote junco
gisi gisi more like kepus kepus 😔
it doesn’t help that like the two other people who actually work on this Vanished
wind compass
aw rippie
azure gulch
life moment
atomic halo
rubs hands together mischievously
yeah ive been swamped with school and also learning spanish lately zz
azure gulch
pukis Ka'i si 'ulun megan ka las'e sesli 'ulun ka las'e 'ulun gisi 'Espano
chilly urchin
I have been swamped with no energy deflating like bnalloon
wind compass
bnalloon delfate,,,,
remote junco
I have been swamped with no energy deflating like bnalloon
someone sucked all of the energy out of you with a silly straw, leaving you deflated like an empty capri sun
lament ingot
empty caprisun Noneko
chilly urchin
pispis...
opal gull
toku a :D
opal gull
ah oh okay... sorry :(
